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Speaker 1: Our guest is.

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Speaker 2: I've been trying to get going for here even before

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Speaker 2: the podcast started.

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Speaker 3: This is jazz bitch, Janet bit there you a little

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Speaker 3: bit for me. I got move your pretty face over there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 1: She's perfect. How are you, sweetheart?

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Speaker 5: Fantastic baby?

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Speaker 1: You're busy girl.

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Speaker 5: Isn't that the key?

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Speaker 2: That's what That's what we all are trying to do,

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Speaker 2: you know, And my girl has been working her ass off,

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Speaker 2: and and I want to I want to get right

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Speaker 2: into the whole Impact thing because we spoke a little

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Speaker 2: bit before you started, but I didn't really get the

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Speaker 2: whole story. And I'm glad I didn't because you can

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Speaker 2: tell it here.

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Speaker 1: And we'll go back to us.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, back in the day.

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Speaker 1: But I want to.

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Speaker 2: I want to start off hot and fresh. How did

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Speaker 2: the Impact game come about? Well, no, she was just

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Speaker 2: on Impact Television for a while before she retired, before

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Speaker 2: she terry funked. Let's you ain't done yet.

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Speaker 4: Girl, No, girl, that's what I'll say. We're never completely dyed. No,

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Speaker 4: But Jordan reached out along with Dreamer and me, how

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Speaker 4: I felt about coming to Impact. I told dream I

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Speaker 4: was like, yo, I'm fat, out of shape, like never.

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Speaker 5: He was like, it is salad, you'd be okay, go.

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Speaker 1: To the bathroom, you'll be fine.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, like that's what it takes. Basically, That's

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Speaker 4: that's what it was, you know. And I went there.

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Speaker 4: I had no clue that it was gonna be extended

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Speaker 4: for over four or five months, but thank god, you know,

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Speaker 4: it was a blessing.

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Speaker 5: And I had fun with the Franny.

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Speaker 4: I've never had the opportunity to tag with anyone, so

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Speaker 4: that was that was pretty dope.

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Speaker 5: I enjoyed my time there.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't I'm not gonna lie. I don't

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Speaker 2: watch impact, but anytime your stuff came up on the internet,

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Speaker 2: I watched it because because you're my girl.

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Speaker 5: And I.

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Speaker 1: And I was thrilled.

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Speaker 2: I was thrilled to see you on there because I

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Speaker 2: mean you, to me, I feel like you've always been underrated,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like you're so good, but

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Speaker 2: I don't think that you've ever got the props that

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Speaker 2: you deserved in this business.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you've lived it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you you know how it goes. So when

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Speaker 2: I saw you, I said to myself, Okay, they're gonna

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Speaker 2: treat her like a legend, you know, and she's there

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Speaker 2: to put the young talent over because we know, we

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Speaker 2: know the deal in our late forties, we know what's

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Speaker 2: going on. But it was so nice to just see

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Speaker 2: you shine, you know, and and for them to put

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Speaker 2: you in a position where where you know ahead of

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Speaker 2: time what the deal is, and it just gives you

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Speaker 2: that little extra nudge because then when you go do

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Speaker 2: your indie work, and when you go you can.

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Speaker 1: Say, hey, you give me on impact.

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Speaker 5: I did that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, how much put did you have in what

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Speaker 1: was going on there?

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Speaker 5: You know how it is. They have writers, you know.

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Speaker 4: I didn't have no input at all, but I was

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Speaker 4: able to do what I was capable to do in

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Speaker 4: the ring. No one forced me to do anything, you know.

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Speaker 4: I let the younger girls put shit together, and it

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Speaker 4: was like, I'm just in here, just you know, it's

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Speaker 4: not about me. You still do what you gotta do,

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Speaker 4: tell your story, you know, I'm just a part of it.

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Speaker 4: So and they did so great of covering my flalls,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So it was it was

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Speaker 4: pretty cool, laid back. The girls were tremendous.

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Speaker 1: That's great. And you looked great. You didn't look out

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Speaker 1: of shape. Ridiculous.

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Speaker 5: Let me tell your.

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Speaker 4: Friend, I said a lot of prayers before each time

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Speaker 4: I went to that ring.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you, listen, this girl's got twins and

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Speaker 1: she's still done muscles or muscles and apps. So don't

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Speaker 1: give me that bass. You looked phenomenal, phenomenal, phenomen jazz.

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Speaker 1: She looks phenomenal. I was thrilled to see you on there.

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Speaker 1: Have they left the door open for you?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yes, you know, there hasn't been any talk as of yet. Sure,

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Speaker 4: brought in Rachel ellerin to team up with Jordan to

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Speaker 4: continue the chasing of the titles which they want at

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Speaker 4: the pay per view, and I was there to witness

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Speaker 4: that and be a part of that. So you know,

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Speaker 4: it's always an opening, but it's you know how it

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Speaker 4: is totally up to them, and you.

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Speaker 2: Could always come back as like a manager. Absolutely, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you don't have to.

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Speaker 4: They want to know if you're available for this day

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Speaker 4: and like, please tell me it's not a match. He

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Speaker 4: was like no, I'm like, people don't realize TV matches

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Speaker 4: are so different from just regular house shows or indie

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Speaker 4: match right, you know, you can pace yourself you know,

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Speaker 4: I can go fifteen minutes on an indie match, but

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Speaker 4: TV is such a fast paced and yeah, my day

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Speaker 4: is done with that shit.

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Speaker 2: When I worked for w w A, they gave I

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Speaker 3: That?

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Speaker 4: Just walking down around, try to get over walking down.

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Speaker 5: To get a pose in and bam, I'm going.

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Speaker 1: I'm going, Oh, that's hilarious.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm I'm really happy that you got that run.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about your school, how's that going?

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Speaker 5: And Ronnie is he still tanning? You know it's you

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Speaker 5: black man.

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Speaker 1: I know that gets in the in the tanning bed.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and he needs it too.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, how did.

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Speaker 1: Anybody do with the kids? What's going on in the world.

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Speaker 5: Of jazz man?

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: The school? First of all, the school is going great.

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Speaker 4: It's Rodney myself and we got Thunder Rosa she so

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Speaker 4: you know, the dog Pound do Ojo is going strong.

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Speaker 5: We're growing each day each week.

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Speaker 4: You know, we got Thunderosa has an all women promotion

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Speaker 4: mission pro and then we got swe so we got

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Speaker 4: talent this coming in. It's just chasing opportunities. So We're

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Speaker 4: just here to share the knowledge and and and pass

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Speaker 4: the torch.

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Speaker 1: Now what do you are you just talent for s

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Speaker 1: you know I'm coming in for them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah girl, Actually I'm over. I'm a directors of the

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Speaker 4: women's division.

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Speaker 5: I booked the matches. Yeah girl, I'll.

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Speaker 1: Be answering to her Win. I get well, I won't

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna you know, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Gonna be with some blonde guy. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Side, But that's cut the fucking miss.

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Speaker 1: That's right, man. We're doing it yet, and you'll see

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Speaker 1: my face go home.

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Speaker 5: I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see you and hopefully we can

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Speaker 1: hang out and.

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Speaker 5: Yeah we will, we will. What's going on?

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Speaker 1: I love it? How is it there in Texas with

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Speaker 1: this whole COVID?

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Speaker 4: You know, honestly, we were shut down for a few

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Speaker 4: months and they slowly start opening things up. We still

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Speaker 4: have to wear a mask, but I mean it's it's

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Speaker 4: like the doors are open, man, Like sw has been

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Speaker 4: drawn over a thousand people.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Jo, I'm seeing pictures of shoes and I'm seeing

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Speaker 2: a lot of people without mask.

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Speaker 5: On, without mask on, yeah, and you guys are safe.

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Speaker 1: It's not It's not a big deal because.

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Speaker 5: I'm a little like, wear your mask.

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Speaker 1: Wear the mask.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we we call the talent. It's to your preference. Okay,

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Speaker 4: So yes, yes, you know we got some people just

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Speaker 4: don't believe in, you know, the whole Max.

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Speaker 2: I really don't believe that the mask work. I'm not

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Speaker 2: gonna be gonna lie, but I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't if my nose is covered in some dude

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Speaker 5: Bit of Yeah, I don't know. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And you know how wrestling fans are. They they want

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Speaker 4: to be they.

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Speaker 5: Want to hug you.

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Speaker 1: You know that's not Look, this is the year of

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Speaker 1: no contact.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and as us right, because you know, we see

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Speaker 4: each other's like it's love.

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Speaker 5: And I think.

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Speaker 2: That includes the workers. I think the workers are getting

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Speaker 2: fist bumps from me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love you, but I can't touch you.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: We did the whole fist bump thing for a while, Andy,

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Speaker 4: the moment and I'm there fucking again with the hand

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Speaker 4: around the fucking fan and cheezing. Eh, I'm like, oh man,

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Speaker 4: let me let me ask one thing about the TV tapings.

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Speaker 6: Was it weird being basically like in like almost it's

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Speaker 6: than that and nobody else could.

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Speaker 1: You doesn't have fans.

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Speaker 4: No, And I believe if we would have had fans,

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Speaker 4: I probably would have been able to do even more

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Speaker 4: because you know, you feed off of that energy.

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Speaker 5: That's what at adrenaline.

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Speaker 4: Kicks in at you know, but your music hit, you

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Speaker 4: walk through Gorilla down the ramp and it's like cricket, cricket,

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Speaker 4: no one, no one, and it's like you want to

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Speaker 4: get hyped, you want to just you know, but nothing.

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Speaker 4: It so hard, so hard, you know those pauses you

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Speaker 4: take to let shit sink in, you know.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, none of that. That was the hardest thing

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Speaker 5: ever done in my life actually.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah, yeah, because just watching I mean I haven't

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Speaker 2: had to do it, because you know, I haven't done anything,

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Speaker 2: but just watching you guys, like even to the point

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Speaker 2: of like WrestleMania and seeing you know, their moments be

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Speaker 2: taken from them. Because you want to work in front

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Speaker 2: of the crowd, you want to hear the roar and

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Speaker 2: there's nothing there. It's it must be like extremely difficult.

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Speaker 4: It's difficult, Franny, because you know that's I mean the fans.

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Speaker 4: They make the show. Sure, you know, whatever reaction you get,

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Speaker 4: it's a reaction. Yeah, silent, it's hard, that's deadly, man.

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Speaker 6: I just I think it looks it's it's just funny.

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Speaker 6: Like you hear the music, you see the lights and

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Speaker 6: the strobes and all this stuff, and everybody's doing their

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Speaker 6: talks and it's like there's nobody there.

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Speaker 1: It's like.

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Speaker 6: The ring because then it's awkward.

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Speaker 1: So it's interesting though they made it work.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, and it seems like the girls and guys

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Speaker 4: are just constantly just going going, going, like.

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Speaker 5: No stopping, no pauses, no nothing. I'm like, shit, bro,

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Speaker 1: Yes, well slowly, I feel like things are getting back

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Speaker 5: Yes, thank god for that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean I tell everybody, look, you do your thing.

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Speaker 1: Your body your choices. So I just tell please, if

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Speaker 1: you feel sick, they stayed to hell Home. Yeah, come

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Speaker 1: around me.

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Speaker 5: How was Disney when you went?

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Speaker 2: Oh, girl, we had the best time ever. The mask

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Speaker 2: But I mean we had a great time.

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Speaker 5: It didn't let people there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they were at thirty five percent capacity.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so I mean it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt less crowded than other years because obviously

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Speaker 2: different world. Nobody wore their masks. Twenty people in.

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Speaker 1: The hot tub with their bud lights elbow like, like

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Speaker 1: I mean none of us, thank god, none of us

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Speaker 2: We You know, you can't live in fear, you can't

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Speaker 2: stop living. I'm slowly realizing that. Like in the beginning,

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Speaker 2: I was petrified to leave my house. And now the

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Speaker 2: more research I do, the more I read about.

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Speaker 5: It, I'm like, I have to we have to live

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Speaker 5: like man exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so again to eat your own but I've had enough,

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Speaker 5: Thing and yeah, exactly, wear your mask if you feel

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Speaker 2: And.

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Speaker 4: Not suit I'll be walking smile underneath the mask, as

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Speaker 4: if people can see your smile.

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Speaker 1: They'll see my smile marks. Yeah. So the schools do well.

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Speaker 1: How are the twins?

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Speaker 5: Twins are great, beautiful by the.

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Speaker 1: Way, I saw a recent picture.

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Speaker 5: Yes, train bigger than me training. Yes.

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Speaker 1: Girl.

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Speaker 5: They had their first match a couple of months ago.

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Speaker 5: How did that go went?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 4: Of course they're not bumping yet. So they went there

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Speaker 4: you know, it wasn't something that I pushed onto them.

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Speaker 4: I think they kind of just I think they love

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Speaker 4: the attention, you know.

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Speaker 5: You know, they're still young and.

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Speaker 1: What are they.

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Speaker 5: Twelve?

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Speaker 1: Going to be thirteen?

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Speaker 4: Okay, yes, well, so we'll see where it goes. You know,

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Speaker 4: they're still young. Yeah, only time would tell.

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Speaker 1: Now does Rodney agree with them getting in the business?

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Speaker 5: Oh well does he?

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, but you know, I.

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Speaker 5: Were a little more apprehensive about it.

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Speaker 4: But okay, I was being a hypocrite, you know, I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna tell them not to do something that they see.

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Speaker 5: Me do every day.

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Speaker 4: So I'm like, kind of makes sense, but still, you know,

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Speaker 4: but you know, now things are changing for the women.

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Speaker 5: We're actually getting more opportunities.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're no longer allowing ourselves to be treated

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Speaker 4: like dog shit, you know. So, hey, I was just

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Speaker 4: scared for them based on all the bullshit that I

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Speaker 4: know that goes on behind the scenes and not being

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Speaker 4: treated fairly.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, yeah, it's.

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Speaker 2: Good you mention that because I you know, I talked

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Speaker 2: about it on here before with Chad thinking about the guys.

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Speaker 1: In the business.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to name names because that's not cool,

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Speaker 2: but some of these guys in the business, and you know,

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Speaker 2: Medusa just went on I ran a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: I think, and she was talking about, uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: you guys look up to people who shit in the girls'

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Speaker 2: food and would shit in their bags. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: would do all this terrible stuff they do. They do interviews,

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Speaker 2: they call us rats, they call us this, they call

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Speaker 2: us that. Yeah, and I'm like, and I'm looking back

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Speaker 2: at the nineties, early two thousands, and that was the

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Speaker 2: mentality of the boys. Yeah, you know, and and it

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Speaker 2: didn't matter how hard you worked, you still had that

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Speaker 2: stigma because you're a woman. You know, maybe you dated

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Speaker 2: somebody in the business, which is inevitable because who did

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Speaker 2: we know exactly, who are you around for four or

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Speaker 2: five days out of the week. We had no social

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Speaker 2: life outside of the business, So you're gonna gravity towards exactly.

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Speaker 2: And I you know, I would never unless you're sleeping

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Speaker 2: with five guys at once, And then it was like, okay,

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Speaker 2: maybe you deserve that.

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Speaker 1: But if you're dating someone didn't work out a couple

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Speaker 1: of years later, you date what who cares?

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Speaker 5: Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't give you the right to go do a

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Speaker 1: shoot and say that one was so and so's rat. No,

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Speaker 1: she was his girlfriend for a couple of years. And

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Speaker 1: it just pisses me.

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Speaker 2: Off the way these guys just have open forum and

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Speaker 2: they could say whatever they want they want, and the

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Speaker 2: girls just look like pieces of shit.

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Speaker 1: I just I hate it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're you know, when we've someone spoke up about,

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Speaker 4: you know, the women not having their own.

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Speaker 5: Locker rooms when you go to venues, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 5: you know.

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Speaker 1: How many shocks have you walk through?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Hell, you do it? There marble.

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Speaker 4: But you know that's the disrespect that they they've shown us.

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Speaker 4: You know, they don't care for sitting there. They're gonna

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Speaker 4: get undressed and do what they do. But if we

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Speaker 4: would do that, oh my god, we're rats, We're sluts, sure,

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Speaker 4: bitches whatever, but you know, it's like we deserve to

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Speaker 4: have at least a curtain to go behind to get dressed,

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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 5: But see, I make sure we have our own locker room.

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Speaker 5: That's a musk.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's good. I mean when we would go to

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Speaker 2: a building and there'd be a women's bathroom, we would

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Speaker 2: like do a dance, yeah, because we'd have to like

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Speaker 2: sometimes p and rnal. I mean, it was ridiculous. We

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Speaker 2: worked under really and uh, I'm talking about ECW. I

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Speaker 2: know w W was a different entity, but it's it's

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Speaker 2: it seems to me like the tides turning. And I

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Speaker 2: don't know if it's because of like the Me Too

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Speaker 2: movement or if the guys are so scared to talk,

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Speaker 2: but it just seems like there's more respect put on

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Speaker 2: the women today than there was twenty years ago exactly.

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Speaker 4: And like another thing, there's no more the boys club,

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Speaker 4: you know, the women now we're just, you know, the

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Speaker 4: biggest draw than the man. Right, Yeah, we're no longer

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Speaker 4: the circus act. We're no longer you know where you

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Speaker 4: put us out in the ring and hopefully everybody goes

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Speaker 4: get popcorn or.

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Speaker 1: To the restroom.

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Speaker 4: You're like, we're drawing now, sure, drawn, but now it's

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Speaker 4: being noticed. We're finally being acknowledged that we are a

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Speaker 4: big draw.

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Speaker 2: But don't you think too it has something to do

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Speaker 2: with the writers, because you know, if they're in there

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Speaker 2: writing these stupid ass storylines that the girls have to follow,

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Speaker 2: not the talent's fault.

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Speaker 1: It goes back to the office, it does.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when you have a bigger platform, for sure, it's

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Speaker 4: the writers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and whoever has the last

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Speaker 4: say So.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: They say the women have come so far, But I

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Speaker 2: think you got to give it to the writers too,

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Speaker 2: because they're starting to realize, Yeah, these girls can do

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Speaker 2: more than just stupid pillow fights.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, you know, when I was in WWE, they

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Speaker 4: called us in the meeting and that you know, they

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Speaker 4: always told them our raidings are doing great, but we're

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Speaker 4: wrestling too much. Like man, They want tops to come off,

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Speaker 4: they want the balls to be seen. And we looked

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Speaker 4: at them like, are you kidding me? Like we're out

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Speaker 4: there killing it, you know, and you want us to

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Speaker 4: go ten steps backwards to show a freaking bra.

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Speaker 1: It's like, come on, yeah, the gear kind of looks

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Speaker 4: Anyway, Yeah, yeah, So you gimmick the shirt so when

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Speaker 4: you grab it, it just so happens to just rip

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Speaker 4: and now she's all exposed, and I guess they get

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Speaker 4: their little pop and you know the.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember the spot that you and I had

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Speaker 1: to do with the pay per view?

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Speaker 5: I remember a lot of spots.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so when George was with us, Oh yeah in

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Speaker 1: California and you had to rip my top off.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I looked at Paul and I was like, I look first.

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Speaker 1: I looked at Jazz and she's just like, yeah, looking

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Speaker 1: Paul and he's like and I'm just like, and I go, so,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put big exes over my boobs so you

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Speaker 1: can't see anything. And Paul goes, well, uh, don't make

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Speaker 1: them too big, and don't and don't cover, don't put

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Speaker 1: your hands over your breast and I go why and

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Speaker 1: he goes, no, just let you know, let.

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Speaker 4: Them flow yeah, but you know, with my hands over

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Speaker 4: your hands down and walk around in some briefs Paul.

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Speaker 5: Hands.

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Speaker 1: I made like I waited three seconds and then I

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Speaker 1: just was but I wanted everybody to see these shoes.

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Speaker 1: I put these huge exes, like they were huge.

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Speaker 5: But I was like, now, what did that do?

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Speaker 1: I would have rather you bumped me then took off.

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Speaker 4: My time, Yeah, and it would have got a metal

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Speaker 4: reaction anyway. I mean people so too. I tell all

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Speaker 4: my women's students, I'm like, we're you're not really here

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Speaker 4: to sell sex.

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Speaker 5: If you hide and.

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Speaker 4: You're cute, even if you're ugly duckling, somebody out there

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Speaker 4: is gonna say you're hot regard artless.

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Speaker 5: You know, we're half dressed anyway.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, you're getting more attention by being physical in

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Speaker 4: the ring than actually trying to go out there. And

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Speaker 4: you know, we're trying to tell a story. You got

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Speaker 4: your heal, you got your face right, and these girls

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Speaker 4: got to go out there. They want heat, but they

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Speaker 4: go out there shaking their ass.

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Speaker 5: It's like, who's gonna do that?

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Speaker 1: You got turn them?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, help me get over. Why don't you.

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Speaker 1: You have to turn them?

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Speaker 4: That was that, I mean Yeah, you can't do that,

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Speaker 4: going out there through the curve and wiggling and shaking

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Speaker 4: ass and twirking and oh.

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Speaker 5: No you're not You're not gonna get an ounce of heat.

447
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 1: Wow, we just watched that a few weeks ago.

448
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 6: We just watched that whole thing play out with With

449
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 6: what was going on on the outside, it's almost like,

450
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 6: you know, your your top got ripped off, but it was.

451
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 6: There was so much other stuff going on because of

452
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 6: what was going on on the floor.

453
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

454
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 4: I was actually pissed that night because I flew my

455
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 4: husband in because I I was finally in a freaking

456
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 4: main event and while we're out there in the ring

457
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 4: doing this and Franny calls as a whole fucking I

458
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 4: did not, how dare you?

459
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 5: I'm kidding.

460
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 4: But anyway, CLIs looking around. I'm like after the match,

461
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 4: I'm like, mad, you see my match? No, he's outside

462
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 4: spearing people in everybody.

463
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, do you do you remember going over

464
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 2: the match that night and Dreamers saying to me, uh,

465
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 2: climb the ladder behind me and hook me, and I go,

466
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: You're gonna fall on top of me?

467
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: He goes, no, I won't. I'll bump to the left

468
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: and I go, you're too heavy.

469
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 5: You do you remember this?

470
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 1: I said, you're gonna fall on top of me and

471
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: he goes, I won't. What did he do? He fell

472
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: on top. I remember afterwards, like my rib my ribs

473
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: were like almost broken.

474
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 2: I couldn't breathe, and he was mad at me for

475
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 2: six months and then he goes, I just watched that

476
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 2: it was my fault.

477
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 5: Six months later he apologized and.

478
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: You're like, hell, I don't know three hundred pounds falling

479
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: on me.

480
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, awful.

481
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: So between that and then the fight and then because

482
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: when I fell, you guys, that was a cue for

483
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 1: you guys to like get the and you're both looking

484
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 1: at me like can you breathe?

485
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 5: And I was just like, yeah, that's horrible.

486
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 1: The whole match was just.

487
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is what it feels like to be in

488
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 5: the main event. Great, and it was not my fault,

489
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 5: by the way, Well it wasn't. You know.

490
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 2: If I didn't go over to that girl, they still

491
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: want to have taken their shirts off and did their deal,

492
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 2: and Atlas still would have ran over and it would

493
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 2: have been a madhouse.

494
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 5: So it was like we're ready for that night anyway,

495
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 5: you know, oh yeah.

496
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 1: Back watching the monitor, like, Okay, there he is. There's

497
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: that guy, there's that guy. We knew it.

498
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 5: We're gonna we're gonna empty the freaking locker room. And

499
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:00,719
Speaker 5: that that's what happened.

500
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: But blame it on me.

501
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's on Franny.

502
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 2: And at one point thirty in the morning, I'm sleeping

503
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 2: and the phone rings and it was our lawyer, the lawyer,

504
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 2: and he goes, yeah, get ready to be sued.

505
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 1: I go, okay, good night.

506
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 5: Yeah right. I was like, I didn't do any selling

507
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 5: my ribs right now.

508
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I didn't have to sell. It was real.

509
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: Oh good times.

510
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 5: Getting back.

511
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 1: Let's go back a little bit. All right, we might

512
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: have talked about this before, but never here.

513
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 2: How did you and Rodney get into E c W

514
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: because you were trained by jyd.

515
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 4: Right, jyd Andy, and then rod came into play and

516
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 4: we started training underneath the Rock, Yes, in New Orleans. Yeah.

517
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 1: Years. I love that man, yes, okay.

518
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 4: So yeah, and he told us that y'all were going

519
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 4: to be in Louisiana for a loop and we need

520
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 4: to hit the road and do it try out.

521
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 5: And one year was that Oh my god, ninety early

522
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 5: ninety eight ninety eight or mid mid late late ninety eight.

523
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 4: Okay, I remember when I one of my debut it

524
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 4: was cold as fuck in Philly, Like, woeeze, ain't cold. Yeah,

525
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 4: it was like towards late ninety eight. Okay, yeah, don't

526
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 4: that seem so long ago?

527
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 5: It was honey wow. So yeah, that's how it happened.

528
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 4: And I that weekend, the Friday, the Saturday, I didn't

529
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 4: get in the ring because I.

530
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 5: Was just like, I just felt like I didn't fit.

531
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: I didn't know.

532
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 4: I saw you and don Marie and y'all up there

533
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 4: looking at all hot and sexy. I'm like, they don't

534
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 4: want anybody like me, and it was don Marie told

535
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,479
Speaker 4: me to get my button the ring and show them

536
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 4: what I could do.

537
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: Yep.

538
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 4: Well, I finally got dressed, found some hallway or something,

539
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 4: because you know, I wasn't allowed to go into the

540
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 4: locker room. I found a hallway, an empty hall way,

541
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 4: and one got dressed and got in the ring with

542
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 4: Jason and RVD goes up to Rodney in tail Rodney, YEO,

543
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 4: is that your lady? And he was like yeah, he

544
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 4: was like, bro, I wouldn't let her get in there.

545
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 4: It was like she'll be all right. And I remember

546
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 4: everyone gathered around the freaking ring and nerves his hail

547
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 4: and oh my god. Completed the match and ran out,

548
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 4: went to the nearest locker room, which it was Saboo,

549
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 4: Tommy Rogers, one man Gang. They were all sitting there

550
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 4: and I just ran past them into the restroom and

551
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 4: pooped my guts out.

552
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: There you go there, you nerves out. Nerves, yes, but

553
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: you know something, you worked with the best person because Jason.

554
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jason brought out the best in every female. That's

555
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 2: the one thing that I loved about Jason. He put

556
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 2: the girls over every single time and let us shine.

557
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: Like he had no ego whatsoever.

558
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 4: He's like did Franny and I and I said it

559
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 4: all the time, like if it wasn't for the guys.

560
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 5: In E c W, there would be no jazz.

561
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you beat you beat up like everyone he did.

562
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's you know from from Simon Diamond and Steve Corino.

563
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it was crazy. Yeah, we just watched that.

564
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 6: We just watched you in Carino a few weeks ago.

565
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was you and I.

566
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: We tagged up against Corrino and Jack Victor.

567
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 4: Yes, Jack Victory even put me over you know what

568
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 4: I mean, It's like, yeah, right, but Franny, we we

569
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 4: just we was just so happy and well, you know,

570
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 4: for more.

571
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 5: Reasons than you know than one and then not all

572
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 5: about the money, right, but yeah, but you.

573
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 4: Know, we're just so happy. There was no egos. Everybody

574
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 4: there had a chance to work. Yeah, knew their role,

575
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 4: you know, we knew Nova and Chanda then we're going

576
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 4: to open the show, you know, and the rest of

577
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 4: us was just going to fall in line and get

578
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 4: the opportunity.

579
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: So tell me a difference in your mind. You've worked ECW,

580
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 2: you work WWE. What's the difference like between the locker rooms.

581
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 2: I always ask you about people because I know.

582
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: What my difference was. My difference might be different than

583
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: your difference. Yeah, if you don't want to say things,

584
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not pressuring you, but.

585
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the difference as of now, for sure,

586
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 4: there's so many girls there. You know, when we were there, Franny,

587
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 4: it was maybe ten if that. Yeah, could you imagine

588
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 4: how we would feel being in the position these girls

589
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 4: are in now there's like one hundred.

590
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: Everybody's fighting for a spot.

591
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody's fighting for a spot. And we never had

592
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 5: to do that in EC Now, we never had to

593
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 5: fight for us. We knew if we.

594
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 4: Were flown in or showed up at the venue, we

595
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 4: were going to have an opportunity to work, right, you know.

596
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 4: And that's what I feel the difference is like it's

597
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 4: just there's only so much room for TV and not

598
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 4: everyone's gonna get that opportunity.

599
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: And he's in in w W E and it's just

600
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: did you feel the family? Yeah?

601
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 5: Did it feel no family?

602
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: No?

603
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 4: It was so much backstabbing, you know someone I'm gonna

604
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 4: just use the term politics, yeah, you know. And and

605
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 4: and I always thought my talent would speak for itself.

606
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 4: There's some things I just can't compete with. I can't

607
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 4: compete with someone over there brown nosing and sucking ass

608
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 4: and all that. I can't compete with that girl the choir, Yeah,

609
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 4: I can't be Probably like, all I got is what

610
00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 4: I got.

611
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: And if you got talent, you got TNA, you got

612
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: talent and ability. Right, here's a story, Jazz, I'm sure

613
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: you remember it. When we went back to the fakey

614
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: C dub. You were called in a little later than

615
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 2: the rest of us. You came in and I don't

616
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: remember where we were. I don't know what town it was,

617
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: but you had a rent a car. Yeah, you drove alone. Yes,

618
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: she drove alone. And I remember talking to you and

619
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 2: I said, I don't want you getting a hotel or driving,

620
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: because we we had a loop and we were working

621
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: somewhere the next day and we had to go by

622
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 2: where my parents lived, and I said, why don't we

623
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 2: Why don't I drive back with you? I'll ask, I'll

624
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: see if it's okay, because I didn't want her driving alone.

625
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: She's my friend, right, So Dreamer says, yeah, go with her.

626
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: That's that's a great idea.

627
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 6: So we go.

628
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 2: We get lost, I mean the whole yard, all nine yards,

629
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: and get back to the house. We chill, then we

630
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: went somewhere else. We did a show that day, and

631
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: then you flew out and dropped me off or whatever.

632
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to be a good friend. Do you

633
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: know I got in trouble with the office because I

634
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: jumped in your run a car and I didn't take

635
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: my return flight home.

636
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: No, Oh, I got heat. Who told you to drive

637
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: with Jazz? And I said, Dreamer, why yeah? And I

638
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: said she was by herself and she had to drive

639
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: my I don't even know where we were, but it

640
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: was far. Yeah, and I said I didn't want her

641
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: to drive by herself. I didn't think it was a

642
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: big deal. Now you should have never did. I got

643
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: in trouble with the office because I was a friend

644
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: and I drew.

645
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's something else. I remember when Rodney.

646
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 4: Injured his leg and he had to fly out the

647
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 4: next day to go see about getting surgery. So I

648
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 4: had to fly to Alabama and they literally had to

649
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 4: like really think about allow.

650
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 5: Me to go with him.

651
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 4: And I'm like, are you serio like to do? He

652
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 4: can't even walk, you know, he had to urinate in

653
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 4: a trash can. Like if I wasn't there, Oh my god,

654
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 4: I would help him.

655
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

656
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 4: They they really they didn't want me to go. I

657
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 4: got hete for that, but I told them, I'm going.

658
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 4: If you like it or not, I'm going. That's my husband,

659
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 4: you know. But they document everyone else's surgery and pre opt,

660
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 4: postop all that shit.

661
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 5: But they an't even me to go and be there

662
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 5: to support my husband.

663
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: Exactly. It just baffles you know. It really does depend

664
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: on who you know and what you do. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

665
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 2: I mean they told me go oil up your chest

666
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: and knock on Vince's door and lean you over the desk.

667
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 4: Not lying.

668
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: God, I'm not lying. And I said I don't do that.

669
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: I've never done that.

670
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

671
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: They were like, yeah, just put some put some oil

672
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: on your chest and go nothing. Hey Vince, Yeah I

673
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: can't know. I'm not. Oh well, you don't want it

674
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: bad enough. Apparently I don't because I'm not doing that.

675
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, and they didn't utilize you the

676
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 5: way they have. You know what I'm saying, like like

677
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 5: tremendous Mike skills, you know, like girl, It's just.

678
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: I told Vince to his face, I wanted to take

679
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: Kevin Thorn's finish here and he goes, we don't do

680
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: that here. Yeah. I go, well, then what do you

681
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: do because I'm not really doing much. I know, I know.

682
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 4: They they had me run doing a run in on

683
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 4: Kelly Kelly in a bikini and they got upset because

684
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 4: I got a pop.

685
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 2: I'm like, you run in on our bikini match, yes,

686
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 2: at one time, and you pie I think you pie

687
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 2: faced me and I took a bump through the ropes

688
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 2: to the floor.

689
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 4: Ye, And I had to do something to Kelly Kelly

690
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 4: and you know, they're like, well you're a healing you're

691
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 4: getting the baby face pop.

692
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 5: I'm like, this is e c W.

693
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: They didn't get it.

694
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 5: What do you not even expect?

695
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 4: And they didn't really like Kelly Kelly anyway at the time,

696
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 4: so you know, the mailman could have did a run

697
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 4: in on.

698
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: They definitely dropped the ball. There were so many of

699
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: us meeting the originals who wanted to work and he

700
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: wanted to do things. And when you I mean when

701
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: I got that call that said we have nothing for you,

702
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: I laughed. I literally laughed at Johnny.

703
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: Ace and I was like, are you kidding me right now?

704
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 2: Because how many meetings did I go in and pitch

705
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 2: this or I want to do this. How can you

706
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 2: tell someone who has ideas you have nothing for them.

707
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't get it. I was a champion twice

708
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 4: and they told me the same damn story. Creative just

709
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 4: can't come up with anything. I'm like, how hell I

710
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 4: go from being in Mania and you know.

711
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 5: So there's nothing you can come up with?

712
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: No, and you were there for what three years? The

713
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: whole your contract and then they just said we're not renewing.

714
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 4: Then they couldn't come up with anything for me. I'm like, dude,

715
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 4: I said, I can tell my own story in the ring.

716
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 4: I don't need a writer, right, you know, I can

717
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 4: do my own storyline. But I, Rodney and I we

718
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 4: went and wrote a six week storyline out. We turned

719
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 4: it into Fit. Poly even helped us. That's how it

720
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 4: was just fucking nuts. We turned it into the Fit

721
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 4: Fit gave it to Stephanie. Stephanie gave it to Vince.

722
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 4: A couple of days later, Stephanie go jazz good news

723
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 4: and bad news. I'm like, okay, great, Like, I don't

724
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 4: know what the fuck do I want to hear?

725
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 3: First?

726
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 4: She goes good news, we love your idea. Bad news,

727
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 4: we're gonna put it on someone else.

728
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 5: Oh my god, that's the worst you got it.

729
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 4: I don't know.

730
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 5: I didn't even give a brat's ass. I stopped. I

731
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 5: haven't watched.

732
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: Unbelievable. Oh that would have pissed me off so bad.

733
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 5: What do you what do you do? What do you say?

734
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 4: You know you want to just Oh my god, that's terrible.

735
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, ship And back then was was like social media

736
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: problem because you could have been tweet Yeah, I can't

737
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: even that's my idea.

738
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, if social media was back then.

739
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: I mean, oh my god, oh girl, that's terrible.

740
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, and that's put my hand on the bibble.

741
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: Right, I believe you.

742
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 5: Believe you Yeah, unbelievable.

743
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 4: And prior to that, give me one seconds, would come,

744
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 4: tell me, Jazz, you're you're you're great.

745
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 5: You'll never have to worry about a job. You have

746
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 5: a job here for life.

747
00:37:59,560 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

748
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 6: It's when you when you got signed in a one.

749
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 6: You went to ov W first, right, Yeah.

750
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 5: They told me to go down there and just knock

751
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 5: some ring rust off. You know.

752
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 4: There was no timeframe of how long I was gonna

753
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 4: stay there, so I was there doing nothing because uh,

754
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 4: Cornett wouldn't use me because he was writing TV for OVW.

755
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 5: So I was just there kind of you know, hanging.

756
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 4: Because he didn't know how long I was gonna be there.

757
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 4: You know, they told me I was gonna be there

758
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 4: for a couple of weeks, but maybe like a month

759
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 4: and a half two months.

760
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: Okay, But weird.

761
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 6: Because your debut at the Survivor series for them when

762
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 6: they kill e c W.

763
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: So you bring as part of the group and they

764
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: killed it the same night, and it.

765
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 4: Was like, okay, well Jackson, you know what, I was

766
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 4: shitting bricks. I thought I lost the job. Really really yeah,

767
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my God, like, no, what's gonna happen?

768
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: You know, Oh could you thought were just gonna be

769
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: with the ECW brand.

770
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 3: Yeah?

771
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 6: They said the storyline was that that night when the alliance,

772
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 6: the WCWECW Alliance lost, those guys were out of jobs

773
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 6: and they found loopholes to bring him back to TV

774
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 6: every so often, but that night it was left to limbo.

775
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 5: Unless you were a champion, you were gone.

776
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 4: Yep.

777
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 5: Exactly, crazy man, crazy, you know. And I'm grateful and

778
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 5: I'm so thankful for.

779
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 4: The opportunity, the platform, you know, of being WW Women's Champion.

780
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 5: You know, I just I just feel I deserved a

781
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 5: little more.

782
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 6: You know.

783
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 5: I never received an action figure. I never had merched anything.

784
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.

785
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: I mean, you had a better career there than I did.

786
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: But they they actually scanned me for the action figure

787
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 2: me too. Yeah, And I was like really and they're like,

788
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: oh yeah, go and get scared.

789
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: And then they're like, oh, we're not doing it.

790
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 5: They flew me and I was home.

791
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 4: They're like, we got to get you in here right now.

792
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 4: There's a high demand and free action figure. So they

793
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 4: flew me in, you know, and did all this and that,

794
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 4: and I'm like, what happened?

795
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 5: What did I do?

796
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't do anything. You didn't do anything wrong.

797
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: I should say you didn't. Yes, it's not you, it's

798
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: not you, it's them, I tell myself anyway.

799
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 4: But oh then you love how Mickey James put them

800
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 4: on the spot about the trash bag.

801
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: Trash bag. I mean, you know, there's gotta be a

802
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: nicer way to same clothing back to someone. At least

803
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: they got their stuff.

804
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 5: It was so long ago with us, I was like,

805
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 5: was my ship in a trash bag?

806
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: Or I didn't have any stuff there? Because I.

807
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 4: Really kept stuff there either, but I had items. But

808
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 4: I'm just thinking, like, was mine received back in a

809
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 4: trash bag?

810
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was.

811
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 5: If that's what they've been doing all these years.

812
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 1: How did they ship?

813
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 2: Well, it came in a box, and then I guess

814
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 2: in the box was the trash bagsha?

815
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

816
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I was told this from day one.

817
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: Everybody is replaceable. It doesn't matter who you are or

818
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: what you do. You could be on top one day

819
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: and then out the door the next, you know, So

820
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: you know, it didn't matter how many times you were

821
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 2: champer this or that.

822
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 5: When they're done, they're done with you and don't have

823
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 5: to have a reason.

824
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 4: No, because I didn't do absolutely anything. You know, never

825
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 4: had heat with anyone, right, confrontations just you know, first

826
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 4: one in the first one there at the venue, in

827
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 4: the ring, always working all my shit, you know.

828
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I always tell kids today, you know, that's

829
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 2: not the mecca. People want to think that I want

830
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 2: to work.

831
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: You can't go work there. But if you're fired, there

832
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: is life after w W. Yeah.

833
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 5: I always can't handle that.

834
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, they can't handle I guess just so call themselves

835
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 4: celebrities or whatever. They can't handle going again to nine

836
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 4: to five. You know that shit didn't bother me because

837
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 4: I was I'm a mother first exactly, you know. So

838
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 4: if I gotta go buy Pampers and clothes, you know,

839
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 4: I gotta do what I gotta do. Because I left

840
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 4: the first job I had after my kids were born.

841
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 4: I became a CNA at a nursing home. Frannie, I

842
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 4: think I remember you telling me, yes, I loved it.

843
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,479
Speaker 4: I loved it, you know, but you know who says,

844
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 4: you know, go wiping someone's ass that that didn't bother

845
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 4: me at all.

846
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: Do what you gotta do for your family?

847
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 4: Question questioned me about that all the time, Like how

848
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 4: do you feel from going kicking ass to cleaning ass?

849
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 5: This is the way you looking at it, you know, Yeah,

850
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 5: but I'm gotta do what you gotta do.

851
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 2: It's a job, a job, it's a job. And look

852
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 2: at you now, you're doing so much, you know what

853
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: I mean. It doesn't matter if you were never in

854
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: the sport again, you left your mark on the business

855
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: and we all know how good and talented you are,

856
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, So your fans know it

857
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 2: doesn't matter if if if you worked, you know, as

858
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: a maid or as a janet, who cares you're working

859
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: and you're providing for your family.

860
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: That pisses me off when people say, oh, so and

861
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: so works at Target, Now, who cares? I mean it just, oh,

862
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: it irks me so.

863
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 4: Badly, and hands or something support him. Maybe we'll not

864
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 4: have to work at Target.

865
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: Well, some people don't want to be in the business anymore,

866
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, some people legitimately. I mean,

867
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 2: I had a period where I was like, I just

868
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 2: want to be home with my family, you know, I

869
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: think as a mother, we all kind of go through that.

870
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 5: You want to be with your.

871
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 2: Children and they get a certain age when the calls

872
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: start coming, well I could make a buck here, should

873
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 2: I do it?

874
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: Okay? And then you get sucked back into it.

875
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 4: You get sucked back in Franny every I've kind of

876
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 4: stepped back a few times just to say, you know what,

877
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 4: I'm done, get a job, get some insurance, you know,

878
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 4: and just be normal. And again, like you said, that

879
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 4: phone call comes in, you're like, fuck, okay, put back

880
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 4: in full speed.

881
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: But the best part is you're your own boss. Now.

882
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 4: Exactly what was it like leaving w WE and going

883
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 4: to the Indies. I'm like, I enjoyed my freedom right.

884
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 4: No one could tell me what to say, what to do.

885
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: You know.

886
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 4: Of course I'm still going in being professional and doing

887
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 4: whatever the promoter wants of me.

888
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 5: If it makes sense, sure, but yeah, to just have

889
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 5: your freedom and just to people just don't understand it

890
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 5: is a job.

891
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 2: Yes, it's nice to wake up and say I don't

892
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: feel like working today, I want to kick my kids

893
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: to the park, or I just I want to clean

894
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 2: my house.

895
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: And you could do that.

896
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 4: You look at your calendar and say, okay, I got

897
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 4: two weeknds book the last two Lincolns of the month.

898
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 5: You know what, I'm not going to do anything.

899
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 2: You know, joy, enjoy your family. The family to me

900
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: is everything. They are everything. And everybody keeps asking me,

901
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: oh if aw calls we I'm forty nine years old.

902
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: I don't want to be on the road. I don't

903
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 2: want a full time job. I'm doing four jobs from

904
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 2: the house as it is. Yeah, just hustling, still hustling.

905
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take a payday when the payday's good. Yeah,

906
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: if it's shitty, I'm going to stay home. No offense.

907
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 5: But I'd rather be with my kids exactly.

908
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: I'd rather and believe me, i'd rather not work at all.

909
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: But you know, yeah, you gotta do something.

910
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 5: We like nice things, you know.

911
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: I like to buy my stuff myself and not have

912
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: to say to my husband, can I.

913
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 5: Have a candle? You know, it's still the good to

914
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 5: go on your own wallet and get your money out

915
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 5: of that.

916
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: Say this girl, she she gets it, she gets it.

917
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 2: Well, I'm super stoked about Texas, that is, I believe.

918
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: July twenty fourth.

919
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 4: Yes, a lot of time, I believe, so Yeah, so

920
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 4: you'll be there of course.

921
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 5: Love, Yeah, all about that.

922
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 4: I'm so excited when they told me you were coming

923
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 4: in because I mentioned you prior.

924
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: Did I have heat with you? I don't even know

925
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: you didn't have heat the office there.

926
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 4: They just told me, okay, well we'll we'll consider that,

927
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 4: and yeah, well we'll get her in, even if it's

928
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 4: for a meet and Greek, because like wish she Wrestl'm like, well,

929
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 4: Frannie never really wrestled, Like that's not her deal, you know.

930
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, but she can manage. She's great on

931
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 4: the freaking mike, you know.

932
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 5: So you know, but it all worked out. God, dang it.

933
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 2: See the problem with me now, I have had so

934
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 2: many surgeries. I'm not allowed to bump because I have mesh.

935
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: In my stomach. Yeah, because my abdominals keep coming apart,

936
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 1: so they have to. Yeah. So I'm not allowed to

937
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: do any core.

938
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

939
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: So if I take a bad bump and that rips,

940
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: I have to go right back in for emergency surgery.

941
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 5: Yeah. That's nothing worth nothing's worth that now.

942
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: So I'll go and I'll do something. But yeah, my

943
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: wrestling days are yeah yeah, yeah, no one makes tags

944
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: for me. I'm good.

945
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm excited.

946
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I miss you too, girl, I'm excited about seeing you.

947
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: Where can people.

948
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 2: Let's start with your school if anybody's interested in the

949
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 2: even if you don't live in Texas and you want

950
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 2: to travel, where can they find you for that.

951
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 5: Dog pounddojo dot com? And that's dog geez?

952
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: Yes, what was it again?

953
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 5: Dog Pound, dog Pound doojo dot com?

954
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: Okay, and then where can we find you on social media?

955
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 5: On Twitter?

956
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 4: I'm Atina, I'm underscore jazz.

957
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 5: Ig is my shoot name, but I'm never really on IG.

958
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: I hate it.

959
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 5: I'm not photo jenic, you know, like it took me all.

960
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 5: I had to put some lashes on and lipstick to

961
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 5: do this. You know, it's like that's just not my thing,

962
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 5: you know.

963
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: I hear.

964
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 5: I got on some shorts and a T shirt right now.

965
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: I got on sweatpants right now.

966
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 5: Yeah.

967
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

968
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 4: So it's like, so that Facebook, I'm underneath my shoot

969
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 4: name again, Carlen Begne.

970
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 5: So yeah, hit me up.

971
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 4: I'm taking bookings for seminars. I'm actually doing my retirement tour.

972
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 4: So I have a few matches, you know, still left

973
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 4: in me.

974
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 5: Look at.

975
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 4: Reach Out, Yes, please do I need to forget these calendars.

976
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 4: Feel for July, August, and September.

977
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 5: How is your health health wise? I'm good friend.

978
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 4: I had to start going to get a massage every

979
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 4: week because my sciatica was just torturing me. My knees

980
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 4: are shot, I can't jump, I can't do anything. That's why,

981
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 4: you know, I told myself it's time to you know,

982
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 4: hang the boots up.

983
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 5: If I can't go in the.

984
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 4: Ring and do the ship that I'm that jazz does,

985
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 4: you know, it's why get in there. I don't want

986
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,479
Speaker 4: to be called look at that old bitch.

987
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 5: You know, go sit down.

988
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 4: You know, I just I've worked too hard to for

989
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 4: my legacy to get shipped on because I still think

990
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 4: I belong in the ring.

991
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 2: That's when you get in there and you do things

992
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: that you know you can do, like you said, with impact,

993
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: things that make you shine, and it's okay because you've

994
00:49:59,520 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 2: earned it.

995
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: You know, you've earned your spot. When I started with

996
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: Paul back in ninety three, when I started, he.

997
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 2: Told I was I was training to be a women's wrestler, right,

998
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 2: And he says, no, you're not going to do that.

999
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 2: He says, because women's wrestling doesn't sell and that's what But.

1000
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: Back then, yeah, it did.

1001
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he said, right now, you're going to be

1002
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 2: a manager, and that's what you're gonna get over with.

1003
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 2: That's why I've never really had to like be a

1004
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 2: female wrestler. He didn't want me to do that, you know,

1005
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 2: so I in my training, I just stopped at that

1006
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: point and everything was just on the fly.

1007
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: You know, you're going to take this. Okay, what is it? Well,

1008
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: we'll just do it out there. Okay, that's fine. Right,

1009
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: never had to go through what you did because.

1010
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 2: He kind of pumped the brakes on me, you know.

1011
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 2: But so when you came in, there wasn't that women's

1012
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 2: division that you I'm looking for.

1013
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 5: But that's why I didn't think that I would fit.

1014
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: You know, you the same with me, like he made

1015
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: me beat up the boys. You're more realistic than me,

1016
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,479
Speaker 1: because I mean you came in like a brick shiit house.

1017
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 1: You were built and you you just had that muscularity

1018
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: and you can go like you were just you were

1019
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: keeping up with everyone. So it was I think it

1020
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: was perfect. You know, you were little, you know.

1021
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 2: And.

1022
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 4: Saw something in me. Yeah, it's a little black girl

1023
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 4: from Memphis. Mississippi, you know, shows up and in uh

1024
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 4: Louisiana du try out. A few weeks later, they called

1025
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 4: me in to to come to the arena E C

1026
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 4: W arena.

1027
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 2: You know, like, I've worked with you so many times,

1028
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 2: both both being faces, me being a heel, you being

1029
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: a face.

1030
00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: You were a heel, I was a fit. I mean

1031
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: we worked together so many times. But one of my

1032
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: favorite memories, real quick is when you were at ringside

1033
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: for something I was not involved. I was watching through

1034
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: the curtain and your wig got snatched off your head

1035
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 1: and you freaked out. She's screaming my wig?

1036
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, do you remember.

1037
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 4: I don't know if this was the same one, because

1038
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 4: happened more than once, but I had a ponytail and

1039
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 4: it come out and I took off. I went to

1040
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 4: the back in the locker room, hurry up, wrapped it

1041
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 4: back around back on your hands hand, put it in there,

1042
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 4: and ran back out and finished the match.

1043
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:44,439
Speaker 5: Nova laughed at me for probably months after. Oh my god,

1044
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 5: I just seeing.

1045
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: You freak out like you didn't freak out ever, spot It.

1046
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 5: Was my wig, Yes, girl, yes, I love it. Well,

1047
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 5: how much money I'm saving now? Oh my god?

1048
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: What made you do?

1049
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 4: That, you know, wearing weaves for over twenty years. People

1050
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 4: don't realize that costs a lot of money, a lot

1051
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 4: of money, a lot of money. But I had just

1052
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 4: so much damaged hair. And then I got sick and

1053
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 4: they put me on some medicine and then like I

1054
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 4: did more damage. And you know, because my mentality was

1055
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 4: I didn't give a damn about my hair because I

1056
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 4: always was covering it up.

1057
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, my hair.

1058
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 5: So my husband said, baby, why don't you just shave it?

1059
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 5: And I was like, I don't know.

1060
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 4: I've had hair all my life, Like how could I

1061
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 4: do that? So I was like, hell with it when

1062
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 4: I hadn't shaved it, and everyone seemed to love it

1063
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 4: and so great with it.

1064
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: I mean, my first reaction seeing you, I said to myself, oh,

1065
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: because I know I'd spoken to you and I knew

1066
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 1: you were going through some stuff and you were sick.

1067
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: And I said, well, if she's sick and she had

1068
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: to do it, that's okay. But she hooks fringing good.

1069
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 1: But I couldn't pull that off.

1070
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, So many people thought I had cancer and I

1071
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 4: still fans still walk up to me. I'm praying for you.

1072
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 4: Everything works out like thank you. I need prayer regardless.

1073
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: Anyway, just well you look great.

1074
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: I always say this to my guests that I've worked with,

1075
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 2: Thank you for being so easy to work with, because

1076
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 2: I've never once had a fight with jazz my whole life,

1077
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 2: never once.

1078
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 5: And never had an issues with anyone.

1079
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 1: Frannie, well that's good I have Uh, we won't go

1080
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: into that, but you were.

1081
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 2: You were literally one of my favorite people to work

1082
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 2: with because he was just easy, breezy, always had a

1083
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 2: good time, always laugh and smile.

1084
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: And we're still friends today.

1085
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 4: So at this sly E c W Man like you

1086
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 4: just it was nothing but love, Fran and I love

1087
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 4: you guys. You guys open your arms again. You know,

1088
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 4: the black girl coming in from the country, not knowing shit,

1089
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 4: you know, never traveled before, why you know, playing by myself,

1090
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 4: and I'm freaking out, you know, but your ladies, like

1091
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:05,479
Speaker 4: y'all was so cool.

1092
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 2: You know, we clicked right away. I remember the first

1093
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 2: night you guys came in and we we just clicked

1094
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 2: right away. Tried to make you feel comfortable, and it

1095
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 2: just it makes me happy that we're still friends and

1096
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 2: we're still in touch.

1097
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: So I wish you you know, nothing but success.

1098
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 3: I need.

1099
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,240
Speaker 1: I know we all do, sweetie. But I'm looking forward

1100
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 1: to July. I'll talk to you before then, I'm sure. Yeah,

1101
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: And just give my love to the girls and to

1102
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: that man.

1103
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 5: And your kids are growing, Oh my god, are.

1104
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: They're getting big. My daughter will be twelve in July. Yeah.

1105
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: We weregnet right around the same time. You were little

1106
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: before me. But my son's nine.

1107
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 5: Yes, they're getting older.

1108
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: Time for another one.

1109
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 7: Oh my god, me, I had I made sure, snippy, sniff,

1110
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 7: I had a hysterectomy, honey.

1111
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1112
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Twinds are a lots, but the best thing is

1113
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 2: they'll always have each other and that's what I love.

1114
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 5: And dogs.

1115
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 2: That's okay though, you know what, Jazz, especially if they're

1116
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 2: getting in the business, because we had Divon on a

1117
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago and his boys.

1118
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: You know, the twins are doing their thing, and that's

1119
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 1: what I told THEE.

1120
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 2: I said, they're always gonna have each other on the road,

1121
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 2: and that is priceless because I didn't have anyone. I

1122
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 2: didn't have a mentor a female person when I started

1123
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 2: like a grat the guys, because that's that's.

1124
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: All we had.

1125
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 5: That Yeah, yeah, but they're so fast, you know. I'm like, yeah,

1126
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,479
Speaker 5: you guys, you know, yeah.

1127
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 2: But they'll always have each other, and they have great

1128
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 2: parents that know the business inside and out.

1129
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 1: And you could put a scare into the boys for them,

1130
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: so they're gonna be all right. I'm sure, right, all right,

1131
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: Well this was great.

1132
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 5: Rest, But remember what's my spot?

1133
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: I'll remember, she goes, I'll remember everybody's spots. And we're like, girl,

1134
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: you can't even remember your own spots. You can remember

1135
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: everybody's spot. Yeah, I got rest, soul, but that didn't

1136
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: want to too good. Oh well, anyway, honey, I love you.

1137
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 5: I love you, Fran and I will.

1138
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: Talk to you. And we got to talk about that

1139
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: other thing too that I gave you, and we'll talk.

1140
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yeah, did you did.

1141
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: You do what I told you to do?

1142
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 5: I didn't get a chance to girl.

1143
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: All right, I'll talk to you.

1144
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:39,439
Speaker 5: Please do ma'am?

1145
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: All right?

1146
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 5: I love you, Love you here, Jazz, thanks a lot,

1147
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 5: Thank you, guys.

1148
00:57:47,440 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: By the barber ar