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Speaker 1: That fine gentleman over there. You know him well, you

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Speaker 1: We made it. It is week zero. How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm wonderful. It's steamy out, which is why you know

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Speaker 2: it's still week zero out here in the Chicago Land area.

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Speaker 2: if that's a symbol of some kind about the season

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Speaker 1: I am doing well. I am excited to finally talk

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Speaker 1: into college football news. I'll do it. I'll do it.

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Speaker 1: Save your points break. Thank you, Dan, I have this

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Speaker 1: but alas, we've got quarterback announcements. We got quarterback announcements

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Speaker 1: Are you ready? I now am cracking my knuckles. Dan,

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Speaker 1: Game Sames are here. I'm so sick of talking about

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Speaker 1: how do you feel about this game?

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Speaker 1: Right I started talking about Notre Dame Navy. She decides

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Speaker 2: If I remember correctly, didn't. They just keep sending corners

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Speaker 2: So you have a clearly better team, but two teams

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Speaker 1: We just didn't see a whole lot of production from

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Speaker 1: be great to just have Notre Dame out there. Honestly,

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Speaker 2: Well, Navy, you give nybe the advantage in terms of

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Speaker 2: being more efficient at traveling across seas. Yes, the United

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame will win because of it. But maybe that

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Speaker 2: Any concern there, not really, Okay, not really, because I

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Speaker 2: don't want to go three and out a couple times early.

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Speaker 2: That sets the whole thing back. That doesn't really work

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Speaker 2: I've got him something like thirty eight to fourteen. Okay, smatchup.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go against you just because I'm making the

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Speaker 2: I think Notre Dame wins by seventeen, but I think

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Speaker 2: if they're not scoring, I think they're gonna chew enough

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna I'm gonna take those points.

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Speaker 1: We disagree, We disagree, but keep that seventeen number in mind.

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Speaker 1: five thirty CBS Sports Network, you tip the minors minus

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Speaker 1: one squaring off against Jacksonville State. Welcome to FBS football.

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Speaker 1: The temperature I kickoff in Jacksonville, Alabamah ninety eight degrees, Dan,

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Speaker 2: You went with Santana instead of ninety eight degrees after

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Speaker 2: very specifically saying kickoff temperatures are going to be a

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Speaker 2: right at ninety eight degree Okay, that's a choice. I

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Speaker 2: my control. Okay, the coach, Yes, I'm listening. Coach of

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville State the game Cocks, for those of you wondering

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Speaker 2: at home, is rich Rodriguez. You remember him, of course,

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Speaker 2: still around, still running the crap out of the ball.

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Speaker 2: He's got sixteen starters back, nine on offense, four on

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Speaker 2: I think because it's Rich Rod, because he's got a

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Speaker 1: Obviously, the points spreads feels like it's a bit of

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Speaker 2: Two years ago. Oh last season two Yeah, but they

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Speaker 1: YEP, fringe Bowl team last season with some qualifiers, the

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Speaker 1: About rolling with the hardy boys. I'm taking UTEP to

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Speaker 1: That's what you tend to see, right, When some of

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Speaker 2: My take is that's too many, too many, It's impossible.

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Speaker 1: Seven pm, Fox Sports one. We've got Ohio and the

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Speaker 1: half points, Dan, I think this is the game of

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Speaker 1: I think primarily because and I wrote this down, Ohio

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Speaker 2: Don't do it, not like this, not in week zero, tie,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna speak it into existence. Get it on a shirt.

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Speaker 1: Curtis Rourke, the reigning MAC Player of the Year from

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Speaker 1: Rourke quarterback dynasty. His older brother played for Ohio. Now

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Speaker 1: a twelve month injury. Now it feels like they can

433
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Speaker 1: do it in a couple of weeks. They can just

434
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Speaker 1: get back to it.

435
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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

436
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Speaker 1: Curtis for now. Ti Curtis is one of those wonder kins,

437
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 1: and he is I think the name to watch. He

438
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 1: was legit very good last season. Obviously has the Accolades

439
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: had a twenty five to four passing touchdown to interception ratio.

440
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 1: He's six five, two thirty, a mountain of a man,

441
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 1: a rocket for an arm. All those receivers are back,

442
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: his running back is back behind him, and I think

443
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 1: if he's healthy, there's no reason to think that this

444
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: Bobcats team won't again be a very very good team.

445
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: Lest we forget they won ten games a year ago. Yes,

446
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Speaker 1: I still am gonna go with San Diego State. Really

447
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,880
Speaker 1: not at all? Come on? Why? Yeah?

448
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 2: I don't think San Diego State's defense isn't where it

449
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 2: was under Rocky Long. It has taken a step back.

450
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 2: But if you give me defense home game Week one,

451
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 2: I just don't think Ohio is going to be rhythmic

452
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 2: enough immediately quarterback coming off of a torn acl there's

453
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 2: too many bullet points.

454
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: I just don't know what San Dio State's identity is

455
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: on offense doesn't matter, and that that scares me.

456
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 2: They've got the defense to make it a slug win

457
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 2: every game thirteen to ten. That's the identity.

458
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: That's the identity, that's the Iowa, the Iowa plan. They've

459
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: got the defense to make it a slug fest. I

460
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: agree with you there.

461
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 2: Maybe they lost a couple of pieces in the secondary.

462
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 2: Like I don't think this defense is where it was.

463
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 2: I think this is it's a team that's going to

464
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 2: be led by its defense because I think the offense

465
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 2: is still a nightmare. But I don't think they're like

466
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Speaker 2: going to be a top fifteen defense in the country

467
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Speaker 2: like they were a few years ago.

468
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: I kind of like Jalen Madeneck quarterback. I just don't

469
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: really like the rest of the offense, and I don't

470
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Speaker 1: know where the points are coming from. So okay, And

471
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Speaker 1: I also think Ohio could be pretty decent on defense.

472
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: This season. I think this is a good team. So

473
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 1: they're getting points. They're getting points. Curtis Rourke is coming

474
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 1: back off injury, an emotional story. We'll see if he's

475
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Speaker 1: firing on all cylinders.

476
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Speaker 2: We paved them back, Dan Rubinstein.

477
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Speaker 1: Ohio plus two and a half for this guy right here. Okay,

478
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Speaker 1: and actually, you know what, Wow of the week, first

479
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Speaker 1: one of the year. Baby, let's do it, all right,

480
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: let's do it. Seven point thirty sec. Network. We've got Hawaii,

481
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: We've got Vanderbilt. Okay, Vanderbilt minus seventeen and a half

482
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 1: points at home.

483
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you feel about that? You don't hear

484
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Speaker 2: the turn of phrase. Vanderbilt minus seventeen and a half

485
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Speaker 2: all that off. Ever, never, they completely trucked Hawaii. If

486
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 2: I remember in like a high school stadium last year,

487
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 2: because the WYEU Stadium is being redone.

488
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Speaker 1: Sixty three to ten was the final score last Yeah,

489
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Speaker 1: they totally waxed him.

490
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 2: And that was in the way of Todd Graham leaving

491
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 2: and the program scrambling, Timmy Chang taking over. That was

492
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 2: a different quarterback for Vanderbilt, if memory serves, who's now

493
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 2: at Mississippi State, who had like six or seven touchdowns, and.

494
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Speaker 1: I'm in on Vandy.

495
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 2: I already told you this is like a must win

496
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 2: game for the Doors, right, it is.

497
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 1: An absolute must win game.

498
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 2: By the way, ryde for six.

499
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Speaker 1: One of my predictions, one of my over under bets

500
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 1: was Vandy over three and a half.

501
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and my my big take was Vandy's won a

502
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 2: bowl game this year. That's my spicy prediction for Vandy.

503
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna give those points. I think Vandy can

504
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 2: win this game by three touchdowns.

505
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: I think on.

506
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: Off look, their their past defense last year was atrocious,

507
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: and we know what Hawaii is going to try and

508
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 2: do and airing the ball out. But I think Vandy

509
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 2: has a distinct talent advantage. They return enough on offense,

510
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: the receiving core is intact. I think they're going to

511
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 2: score points, and I think they are going to win

512
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: this game by three plutch touchdowns.

513
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Speaker 1: How about that? Yeah? I Mean my stense is that

514
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,719
Speaker 1: people are going to look at the games that are

515
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: being played. Maybe if you haven't been following along on

516
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: this podcast, or if you're not as ardent a fan

517
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: as some of the rebelers are, of course, you might

518
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: look at this and just sort of pan it like

519
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: who cares Hawaii Vanderbilt. But this is interesting to me

520
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,959
Speaker 1: because over half of the public bets so far on

521
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: Hawaii plus the points. Bear in mind, bear in mind

522
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: the game from a year ago sixty three to ten.

523
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: I get that the situation was different, but that was

524
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: not even a close game. And I think this is

525
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: a better Vanderbilt team. It could be a worse Hawaii team.

526
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. What I like about Vandy this year

527
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 1: is that I think they are better across the board,

528
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: but especially along the lines. And that's kind of like

529
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: a clerk Lee special, you know, that's something he wants

530
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: to do. So I think taken in totality, given the

531
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Speaker 1: fact that the game is at home in week zero,

532
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: you know, no teams have finished product, and it can

533
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 1: be tough to cover a big spread, especially early on.

534
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: But I I just really like Vandy's continuity and what

535
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: they've got here. I minus seventeen and a half feels

536
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: like a really good play to me.

537
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 2: This is our hydration station game of the week, by

538
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 2: the way, because it's going to be one hundred degrees

539
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 2: in Nashville on Friday and then on Saturday in Nashville

540
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 2: ninety six degrees with scattered showers time. What do you

541
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 2: understand the humidity that's going to be involved in this matchup?

542
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: What time is kickoff? Do you have it in front

543
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: of you?

544
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: Kickoff in this game is seven thirty on SEC network.

545
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 2: So if you have scattered showers throughout the day with

546
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 2: temp's high nineties and the humidity that's going to be involved,

547
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: I'm cramping just thinking about it. I need to find

548
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: a banana. I need to find some sports drinks, some gatorad, whatever,

549
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 2: because this one is going to be drenched. Yeah, I

550
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 2: got that one too, Okay, Hydration station, continue to.

551
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: Pull that one on the board. Eight pm, Pac twelve network. Rip,

552
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: We've got San Jose eight We've got USC. We've got

553
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: the Trojans favored by thirty and a half points speaking

554
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: a big point spread. Good lord, thirty what's left to

555
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: say about USC at this point? Right? Like, we know

556
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: that the offense is going to be electric. I think

557
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: they could score four. Yeah, they could score forty points

558
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: to the first half for all we know in this game.

559
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: San Jose State was a bowl team last season. I

560
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: think they'll be a fringe bowl team again this year.

561
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: At a minimum. We know they're gonna have competent quarterback

562
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: play because Chavon Cordero is still around. It was actually

563
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: very good last season. He had over thirty two hundred

564
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: passing yards, twenty three touchdowns, only six interceptions. His backups

565
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: your boy J Butterfield, remember him.

566
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: My guy who didn't play it at all for Orion.

567
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: Yeah? Your guy, your guy, J Butterfield. Yeah yeah. How

568
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: do you feel about this big point spread?

569
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: I generally find because you're right that USC does have

570
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 2: that potential to score forty in the first half. The

571
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,239
Speaker 2: big deal to me is what does USC's defense look like?

572
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 2: Even last year? Who do they open up with rice?

573
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: I want to say they were given up five, six,

574
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: seven yards of carry on certain drives. Like it's a

575
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: different year, it's a different defense. I want to see

576
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: how that side of the ball comes together for USC.

577
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 2: San Jose State and USC last year. This doesn't carry

578
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: over to this year, but coincidentally enough, both top ten

579
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: turnover margin teams in the nation. So they're going to

580
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: be aggressive. They're going to be trying to force fumbles

581
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: obviously confused quarterbacks and force picks. They both have extremely

582
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: experienced quarterbacks. One of those quarterbacks happens to be a

583
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: lot better than the other. One of those quarterbacks, KAYLEB

584
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 2: Williams is sensational. You run out of adjectives to describe

585
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: him in this specific game week one, within year two

586
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: for KAYLEA Williams and Lincoln Riley, you know a little

587
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: bit of reshuffling on both sides of the ball. Man

588
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: thirty points week one. I'm inclined to give it just because,

589
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: come on, yes, because coming on with San Jose State's offense,

590
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: I don't expect them to be able to be all

591
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 2: that successful pounding the ball like PAC twelve teams will

592
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: be against this USC front. I just physically, I don't

593
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: think they're gonna be able to match up well enough

594
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 2: to control the clock, and so I think they're gonna

595
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: be off the field quickly, and I think USC just

596
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 2: scores so quickly that I'm gonna give those points. Sorry, ty,

597
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 2: now it's not a sexy pick here. You're giving the

598
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 2: points now, I thought you were gonna sorry sorry, sorry, No, yeah,

599
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:29,479
Speaker 2: I'm giving the points.

600
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: You're giving the points you're taking USC.

601
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think USC is going to score too quickly,

602
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 2: and I think San Jose State won't be able to

603
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: possess the ball often enough that if you're giving the

604
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: ball back quickly, it's gonna be Caleb Williams over the

605
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,959
Speaker 2: top or Caleb Williams eating up yards on the ground.

606
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 2: And I don't have a good reason for San Jose

607
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 2: a good enough reason for San Jose State to hang

608
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: around for a long time.

609
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: Well, so that's yeah, I mean, that's my point. I

610
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,719
Speaker 1: thought you were gonna go San Jose State there, but

611
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm glad we agree. No.

612
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 2: The reason I'm not is because I don't think they

613
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: can match up in the trenches well enough to you know,

614
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: dry out longer drives and you know, play small ball

615
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: enough that USC is only scoring thirty eight and only

616
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: wins this game thirty eight thirteen. I just don't think

617
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: they're gonna be able to keep the ball.

618
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I agree with you. You know, the

619
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Speaker 1: big one of the big overarching questions this year is

620
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: USC's defense and whether it can improve. It's not just

621
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: a USC PAC twelve question. It's sort of one of

622
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: the big questions, the big overarching things that we talk

623
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,239
Speaker 1: about with college football, and how they do on that

624
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: side will really dictate how far they can go. I

625
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: think San Jose State to sun extent can throw in USC,

626
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: and we're going to get some sense for what they're

627
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: made of in the secondary. Also, how bear Alexander looks

628
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: up front is something that Watchiny Lucas. Yeah, a couple

629
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: of big names, Yeah, a couple of big names. I agree.

630
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: I don't think San Jose State can score. I don't

631
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: think they can make this smaller ball than USC wants

632
00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: to play. This feels like fifty five seventeen some Oh.

633
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 2: Man, I have we were so close. I had fifty

634
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: five twenty. Yeah, yeah, keep that in mind. Keep that

635
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: score in mind as well. I'm going USC minus whatever.

636
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 2: The only thing to watch here.

637
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: Could see a back door cover okay, could see a

638
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: backdoor cover situation. But I'm I'm on USC minus whatever.

639
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: What is okay? Yeah, I we agree. Next game, Final game,

640
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: very limited Week zero slate. We've got a nine pm

641
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: slot on CBS Sports Network. It is between Florida International

642
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: if I you, yeah, and Louisiana Tech. Known here in

643
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: these parts is LA Tech law Tech favored by eleven points.

644
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: Dan I wrote another one down. I don't know if

645
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: you want to hear guess who's bach Bach again? Oh no,

646
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? Hank Bachmeyer's back. Tell of

647
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: friend Andrew Bistein.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Sonny Comby's Louisiana.

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Speaker 1: Tech is back. He comes down to Louisiana Tech from

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Speaker 1: Boise State. The most interesting thing about Hank Bachmeyer outside

651
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Speaker 1: of his transfer, maybe the fact that he has younger

652
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Speaker 1: brothers named Tiger Baron Buck, which you and I discussed.

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Speaker 1: I love all of that. Yeah, last season, but it's

654
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Speaker 1: it's an interesting matchup on a couple different fronts. Both

655
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Speaker 1: of these teams bring back a lot from last season.

656
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Speaker 1: FIU and Louisiana Tech eighteenth and twenty sixth, respectively in

657
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Speaker 1: terms of returning production. Both bring back more on defense.

658
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Speaker 1: The problem for both is that their defense is also stank.

659
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Speaker 1: Last year. Yes, they were really bad, and it kind

660
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Speaker 1: of it speaks to the whole Bill Connolly conundrum that

661
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Speaker 1: he poses off and when he does his previews, when

662
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Speaker 1: he looks at returning production and says, well, is it

663
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Speaker 1: a good thing that this side of the ball brings

664
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Speaker 1: back so much given where they were at a year ago?

665
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Speaker 1: I don't trust either defense. I don't trust either defense.

666
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: FIU and Louisiana Tech played last year. FIU won that

667
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Speaker 1: game in a bit of a shootout. So I'm taking

668
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Speaker 1: points if I can get them. I don't know who wins.

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily care who wins. But FIU getting eleven

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Speaker 1: with the state of these defenses, to me feels like

671
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Speaker 1: the play.

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Speaker 2: So plus eleven you're taking plus I think I agree

673
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Speaker 2: with you. By the way, this is last year's number

674
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 2: one twenty four against one twenty five points for drive defense.

675
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Speaker 2: They did play last year, FIU beat Louisiana Tech.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, I don't know, take the points. Just take

677
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Speaker 1: the points to move on.

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Speaker 2: It's not going to be that fun of game, which

679
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Speaker 2: means it's going to be a crazy fun game.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a weird game. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: The other thing I had forgotten about before looking this

682
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Speaker 2: game up is FIU was the team in South Florida

683
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Speaker 2: to hang with Middle Tennessee last season. Oh, they were

684
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Speaker 2: the team in South Florida to hang with Middle Tennessee.

685
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 2: They lost that game by five, but they were right there.

686
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Speaker 2: So there's that.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to your questions. That does it? Oh yeah,

688
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: for a weeks zero, we had a bunch of questions

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Speaker 1: come in all cross over Ballerhood via Twitter or X

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Speaker 1: whatever whatever we have to say now Instagram, Patreon.

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Speaker 2: Got a lot of zets? Is that what happens? Seats?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got some zets here. Let's get to questions. Congratulations, Skippy,

693
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Speaker 1: you've got mail, You've got mail on the solid verbal.

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Speaker 2: Each week we like to pay homage homage. Is that

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Speaker 2: what we do?

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Speaker 1: We like to pay homage homage?

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Speaker 2: Should want to get some questions.

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Speaker 1: To those of you who write in soliverblegmail dot com,

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Speaker 1: those you send in.

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Speaker 2: Zeats, catch us on X baby, catch us on X

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Speaker 2: at the solid verbal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, where you want to go? First?

703
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Speaker 2: Solid slated our friend Connor. Best Week zero storyline to

704
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Speaker 2: watch from a purely narrative standpoint, Notre Dame separation, USC defense? Yes,

705
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Speaker 2: is there anything else you're making Curtis Rourke proclamations in

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Speaker 2: this moment as well?

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Speaker 1: I guess I'll say the great roorkining I think goes

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Speaker 1: without saying at this point, Jacksonville State's first game on

709
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: the FBS level will be will be intriguing just to

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Speaker 1: see that how they match up. But now I think

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Speaker 1: it's at least what we're going to be talking about

712
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: is can Notre Dame separate from Navy and is USC's

713
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Speaker 1: defense do they look better?

714
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Speaker 2: And remember a few weeks ago, we got a question

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Speaker 2: asked in this very segment on this very type of show,

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Speaker 2: what kind of result it was only on forballers dot Com,

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Speaker 2: what kind of result or what could happen in this

718
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Speaker 2: season for you to immediately think it's a failure, no

719
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Speaker 2: matter what the record is. And Tye very plainly stated

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Speaker 2: and agreed with me, if Notre Dame loses to Navy,

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Speaker 2: no matter what happens the rest of the year, it's

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Speaker 2: kind of a failure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm quitting the podcast. If that happens, I'm done.

724
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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to find somebody else who can fill in,

725
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: and you might have to do that anyway with the

726
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Speaker 1: state of my voice at the moment, but true, fair,

727
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: but I'm done. I'm out. If if Notre Dame loses

728
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Speaker 1: Week one.

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Speaker 2: You're starting. You're starting a team for this season. You're

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Speaker 2: allowed to pick one team's position group to start. Which

731
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Speaker 2: do you pick? And examples This is from Dennis Michigan's

732
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Speaker 2: offensive line, Ohio State's wide receivers, Georgia's defensive line.

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Speaker 1: You're you're a big D line guy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I would say, whichever defensive line you feel best

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Speaker 2: about in this great nation, you know, and it's probably

736
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Speaker 2: still Georgia considering the ceiling and how they've recruited there

737
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Speaker 2: and the depth of where where they've recruited. There's a

738
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Speaker 2: bunch of interesting ones.

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Speaker 1: Oh I think Clemson's line.

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Speaker 2: I think Texas is in a very good place right now.

741
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Speaker 2: Ohio State has j t Toomalu, Jack Sawyer, like there's

742
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Speaker 2: quality there for for Ohio State. There's a lot of

743
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Speaker 2: really good ones. I guess Georgie's defensive line because there

744
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: is something. There's so much that you can cover for

745
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: with a dominant defensive line. If you have average corners, well,

746
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Speaker 2: your defensive line is completely abusing an offensive line and

747
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Speaker 2: getting to a quarterback. Well, your linebackers aren't making plays. Well,

748
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Speaker 2: they don't need to because the defensive line is, you know,

749
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Speaker 2: funneling everything inside and it's just making their job much easier.

750
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Speaker 2: And so you disrupt so much of a game plan

751
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 2: with a confusing, overwhelming defensive line that I love a

752
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: great offensive line. You can push a team around and

753
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 2: win a game slowly. That's great. You protect your quarterback,

754
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Speaker 2: that's great. You have game changing receivers that changes game plans.

755
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Speaker 2: But to me, still I'm taking that defensive line. I

756
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: just am.

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Speaker 1: I think D line is the way to go with

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Speaker 1: this answer. Honestly, Dennis zeeded this to us.

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Speaker 2: I believe, yeah, Alabama is a good option there as well,

760
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 2: but a lot of youth coming in Kean Keeley going

761
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Speaker 2: to get into the rotation.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm still going with probably any of those defensive lines.

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Speaker 1: I think is the move as a secondary point, Yeah,

765
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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the other side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's skill positions. I don't think it's quarterback.

767
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Speaker 1: I think it's line. I think it's Michigan or Georgia's

768
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Speaker 1: offensive line. If you prefer that side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: For your answer, I would kick one of those two lines.

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Speaker 1: But we were asked, we were we were asked. But

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, if you were playing the home game here, yeah,

772
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Speaker 1: you're playing the home game, I'd probably go Michigan or

773
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Speaker 1: George's offensive line. If you prefer that side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, I think I'm going to take exception.

775
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Speaker 2: You said it's not quarterback. You'd rather have a great

776
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Speaker 2: offensive line than a great quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I think you could do more with a good offensive line.

778
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'd love to have a great quarterback. But

779
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Speaker 1: if you don't have the great quarterback and you do

780
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Speaker 1: have the line, you could get by with, you know,

781
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: a good running game. You can get by with an

782
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Speaker 1: average quarterback who has time to throw to a tight

783
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Speaker 1: end or an open receiver.

784
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Speaker 2: Otherwise, well, Ian Book had a great offensive line. You

785
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Speaker 2: want Ian Book Notre Dame or this year Sam Hartman

786
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Speaker 2: with an okay offensive.

787
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Speaker 1: Line winning his quarterback in Notre Dame history. He did, Okay, right,

788
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Speaker 1: I know.

789
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Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is, if I gave you the

790
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Speaker 2: option of watching ian Book Notre Dame this year, Sam

791
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Speaker 2: Hartman Notre Dame, two different offensive lines, I think you're

792
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Speaker 2: probably taking Sam Hartman an average line with a good quarterback,

793
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Speaker 2: or a good quarterback with an average line. I'm taking

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Speaker 2: the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Interesting, I that's okay. We disagree. We can agree

796
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Speaker 1: to disagree.

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Speaker 2: Next question, Matt, how well does Dylan Gabriel need to

798
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Speaker 2: play to avoid hearing calls for Jackson Arnold. Spencer Rattler

799
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Speaker 2: heard Caleb Williams's name coming from the stands and Memorial

800
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Speaker 2: while he was still undefeated, though his play was unremarkable,

801
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Speaker 2: especially when he was finally benched at Red River. Different

802
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Speaker 2: head coach, different situation, because Dylan Gabriel was not, you know,

803
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Speaker 2: day one Oklahoma, whereas Jackson Arnold is and will be.

804
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Speaker 2: But do you think there is pressure on Dylan Gabriel

805
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Speaker 2: after some inconsistent play, obviously injury issues that are out

806
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: of his hands last season, but Oklahoma in a lot

807
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 2: of ways was a mess last year. Do you think

808
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Speaker 2: there is added pressure because of a five star true

809
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Speaker 2: freshman quarterback on Dylan Gabriel to be essentially the best

810
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Speaker 2: or one of the two or three best quarterbacks in

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Speaker 2: the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 1: I think there's pressure. I don't know if it's quite

813
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Speaker 1: the same as Spencer Rattler, though I think the expectations

814
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Speaker 1: were different. Rattler came in and I feel like almost

815
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Speaker 1: instantly was branded as a potential Heisman contender, especially playing

816
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Speaker 1: for Lincoln Riley, and if I remember correctly, at the time,

817
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Speaker 1: there was a lot of like undercurrent of maybe he's

818
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Speaker 1: not the best teammate, maybe there's some strife among the

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Speaker 1: team with respect to Spencer Rattler. Such of an overhaul

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Speaker 1: at Oklahoma since Lincoln Riley left and starting anew with

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Speaker 1: Brent Venables. I just feel like that buys Dylan Gabriel,

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Speaker 1: excuse me, a lot of goodwill. His numbers were pretty

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Speaker 1: good last year when he did get healthy, when he

824
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Speaker 1: was out there playing. I don't know if it was

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Speaker 1: so much a problem with the offense if you're an

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma fan as it was the defense. I'm so focused

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Speaker 1: on that defense and hopefully the defense getting better now

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Speaker 1: in year two under Brent Venables, that it's hard for

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Speaker 1: me to find a situation in which the burden of

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Speaker 1: this whole thing collapsing falls on Dylan Gabriel and not

831
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Speaker 1: Ted Rufe or Brand Venables.

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Speaker 2: I think it's also a little bit different, the comparisons

833
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Speaker 2: a little bit not apples to apples because of it

834
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Speaker 2: was Spencer Rattler's third year at Oklahoma under Lincoln Riley,

835
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Speaker 2: in which things went sideways. He redshirted, they won, and

836
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Speaker 2: then they won the Big Twelve, and then things go sideways.

837
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Speaker 2: So the expectation is through the roof for any Lincoln

838
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Speaker 2: Riley quarterback, given the Heisman trophies, given the number one

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Speaker 2: overall pick, Spencer Ratler, five star coming in next big

840
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: thing after three or four dudes. So with Dylan Gabriel,

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00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 2: with a new coaching staff, with a new coordinator, with

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Speaker 2: Jackson Ardald being a true, true, true freshman right, and

843
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: obviously Kayleb Williams was as well. I just think there

844
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Speaker 2: was something more physically impressive about Kaylen Williams as a

845
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Speaker 2: true freshman that even if he couldn't fully capture the offense,

846
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Speaker 2: which Jackson Arnald shouldn't be able to fully capture the

847
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Speaker 2: offense as a true freshman, that he could make plays

848
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Speaker 2: in other ways, in remarkable ways. I think it's different

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Speaker 2: because of that specific context. But if he is average,

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00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 2: if he's only pretty good, but people are tantalized and

851
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: yelling for Jackson Arnold, it'll be used against Oklahoma on

852
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: the recruiting trail, like why would you transfer to Oklahoma?

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Speaker 2: The crowd's going to turn against you. That's just what's

854
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 2: going to happen.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I think the more likely scenario.

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Speaker 1: And I hate to say this, I'm not rooting for this,

857
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: but yeah, Dylan Gabriel is not a big kid. No,

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Speaker 1: he's not big. He's five to eleven. Yeah, he's been

859
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: beat up and he's gotten beat up in the past.

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Speaker 1: I think the more likely scenario is not Dylan Gabriel

861
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Speaker 1: being replaced because of performance, but unfortunately, because there is

862
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: a bit of a track record here, I think I

863
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: think the more likely outcome would be we'd see Jackson

864
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: Arnold because of injury.

865
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 2: Okay, and the ability to turn to Jackson Arnold. While

866
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 2: luxurious to turn to a five star backup quarterback, you're

867
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: also kind of saying we're willing to take some losses

868
00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 2: this year if you're Oklahoma, which I think the ceiling

869
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 2: for twenty twenty three is clearly higher with Dylan Gabriel

870
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 2: than jack Snarnold. The ceiling overall is probably higher with

871
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: Jackson Arnold. So no, it's it's fascinating to watch, but

872
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 2: uh no anything. If he's averaged to below average, yes

873
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 2: there's going to be that drumbeat, But otherwise I don't

874
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: see it happening, at least in the short term.

875
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: Next question, Next question, let's steal, let's keep going.

876
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 2: How will Texas go eight and four this year? Heather

877
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: wants no tie. I got Texas Alliba playoff.

878
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: I know you do.

879
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 2: But if you are going to if you're going to

880
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: be the architect of Texas is eight and four twenty

881
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: twenty three from from where do the losses come?

882
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: And why? God, Heather find me for I do you

883
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 1: have to do this to me? It's hard enough putting

884
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: Texas in the playoff. Then they got to get questions like.

885
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: This, it's at Tuscaloosa, It's Oklahoma, Kansas State, and take

886
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: your pick of TCU, Iowa State, Baylor.

887
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: Kansas Well, Kansas at home, Kansas at home. But I,

888
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: I mean, that's how it happens, the way you described

889
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 1: it that.

890
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 2: Howard circle Iowa State as being especially tracked Kansas State

891
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: TCU before Texas Tech to finish out the year.

892
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: How it happens is you've got the loss on the

893
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: road at Tuscaloosa, You've got the loss to Oklahoma and

894
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: the Red River shootout, and then they're you know, two

895
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: of the other teams that you mentioned. Kansas could come

896
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: in and win a shootout, Kansas State could come in

897
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: and win. Obviously they're in a pretty good spot just

898
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: as a program, back to back weeks against TCU and

899
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: Iowa State both on the road. I want to say,

900
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: it feels pretty tricky to me. Sure, Texas Tech. We

901
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: don't even mention Texas Tech. But we're both pretty high

902
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: on the Red Raiders. They could come in late in

903
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: the season and pull an upset. So I don't think

904
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: this is an easy schedule by any stretch for Texas.

905
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: I think Texas is in a good place from a

906
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: talent perspective. I think they've been building. That's why I

907
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: feel good about the Longhorns. But the schedule is not

908
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: a picnic by any stretch. So it's definitely possible as

909
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: for how it happens. As for why it would happen,

910
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: maybe the offense isn't as good as you and I

911
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: are expecting it to be. I don't know how likely

912
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 1: that is, but like, what if the ground game takes

913
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 1: a big step back with Jean Robinson now playing for

914
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: the Falcons, and suddenly Quen you Weres comes in and

915
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 1: can't shoulder the burden, or Quen Youwers gets hurt again

916
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: and Arch Manning or whoever is behind him.

917
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: I was a little bit that was a little bit

918
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 2: too close for comfort for me. When you say Quen

919
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 2: you were shouldering the burden with his injury last year?

920
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: Oh too close to the bone.

921
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well, God's still going with the idioms tie

922
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 2: be cool, man, be coolbe right.

923
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: Maybe so maybe that's the scenario in which things come

924
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: off the swivel a little bit, or maybe the defense

925
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: takes a step back again. I don't I don't think

926
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: that's likely. Actually feel better about the defense than anything.

927
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 1: But if the offense has to keep pace with higher

928
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: scoring teams because the defense is not living up to

929
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: its end of the bargain with the schedule, late enforced pots,

930
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: it's what scares me. What really skeeves me out about

931
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: my Texas playoff pick. First off, I needed a fourth team,

932
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: and Texas felt like the one that made the most sense.

933
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 1: Not because I am committing myself whole hog to this

934
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: notion that Texas is a playoff team. I get it,

935
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: there's a stigma there. I don't feel great about it either,

936
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: but that was the direction I went to. That's where

937
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: I committed myself when I had to make my playoff prediction.

938
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: What really really frightens me is that I look at

939
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: the schedule and I say, it's a good team, but

940
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 1: the margin's very thin with this schedule. The margin between

941
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: ten and two at eight and four is really really thin,

942
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: And that's kind of creeping me out A little bit.

943
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 2: There's also we perceive, we believe Quinn yours to be

944
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 2: good to very good, But what if he's not, counterpoint Colin,

945
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 2: is he though? I know right because I know last year.

946
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: Look he's beat up. He comes back from the injury quickly.

947
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 2: It's admirable he toughed it out. But Texas was not

948
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 2: good on offense and a lot of second halves against

949
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 2: these teams, and that, to me is the concern. I'm

950
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: not worried about the defense at all. I think the

951
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 2: defense is going to be So when you talk about, like, oh,

952
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: could they lose a shootout to Kansas, I don't think

953
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: the Kansas game is going to be a shootout. I

954
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: think Texas should comfortably win that game because I don't

955
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: believe in Kansas's defense to the point where it actually

956
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 2: will matter. Like I still think they're like a bowl

957
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: ish program right now, and Texas is built to be,

958
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 2: as you point out, like a nine to ten win

959
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: team right now. And so to me, it's like on

960
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 2: the road at Iowa State that like they could just

961
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 2: lose that game seventeen sixteen and have the ball like

962
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 2: with inside the forty five times in the second half,

963
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 2: like that just has the trappings. So that's that's to me.

964
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: How Texas, it's the offense not getting out of its

965
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 2: own way. It's not a Bjhon Robinson thing. Like I

966
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 2: he was on the team last year when they were

967
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 2: struggling in those games.

968
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

969
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: I'm fully in on Texas being a really good team

970
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 2: this year. But how they go eight in four is

971
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 2: clear as day. It's in four K to me, Tye.

972
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: All right, next question, next I vision?

973
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 2: Will I ever be happy as a Miami Hurricanes fan? Again,

974
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 2: A Nico wants to know.

975
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: I'm the wrong person, ask I'm on the over. I'm

976
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 1: on the over seven and a half. It was one

977
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 1: of my one of my over over under bets. Yeah.

978
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: I think Miami has built really soundly this season. Again

979
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: on paper, on paper, they should be really solid along

980
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: the lines, which is the Mario Crystal balway. It's the

981
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: way he wants to build his football teams, is the

982
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: way he's done it since he's been doing this. I

983
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: also understand that there is a huge red flag that

984
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: should go up, that does go up, even for me,

985
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: whenever you start talking about a team that is too

986
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 1: much talent to fail. We said the same thing a

987
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: little bit last year with Miami. It was newer than

988
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: and turns out they weren't as talented as it turns

989
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: out they were as talented. Yeah, so again, maybe I'm

990
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: committing the same sin tiers in a row, but I

991
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: feel like Miami is too talented to be a seven

992
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: win team, to be a five win team.

993
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 2: I think that's the issue. That's just this year. But

994
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 2: he should be better for again. He'll be happy ever again,

995
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 2: what's fine? Happiness is a Miami fan, it's national championships, right.

996
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: It's probably national championships. Yeah, but it's I think in

997
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: the short term I would be happy if I were

998
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: a Miami fan if we came out of the twenty

999
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: twenty three season with Tyler van Dyck and felt like

1000
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: we got back to the promise of his freshman year,

1001
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: or the promise of two years ago. I guess when

1002
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: it felt like this kid was going to be a

1003
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: pro prospect, he could be top ten draft picks as

1004
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: a quarterback in the league. We obviously did not see

1005
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: that last year. It didn't come anywhere close to it.

1006
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: He was hurt. The offense, maybe wasn't fit for his

1007
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: skill set or the guys that they had on hand.

1008
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: But I'd be looking at this if I were a

1009
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: Miami fan, and I'm not. But this is just a

1010
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: very limited field of viewing at this in terms of

1011
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: the offense and saying if we can get back to

1012
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: some semblance of explosivity and not this pickleball stuff that

1013
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: we saw a lot of last year, that feel much

1014
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: much better.

1015
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 2: If I give you an over under of zero point

1016
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 2: five Mario Cristobal playoff wins at Miami in the next

1017
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 2: by twenty thirty, twenty thirty over, twenty thirty. Over you

1018
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 2: think Miami will win a playoff game by twenty thirty,

1019
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: because I think that's how I would define happy as

1020
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 2: a Miami doesn't just want to be in the grouping

1021
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: of great teams. They want to be separated with other

1022
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 2: top top top, top, top tier. Over you got to

1023
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: win a playoff game?

1024
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: Over? Can I put money on that right now and

1025
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: take the over?

1026
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 2: You want to look at the future of Miami quarterback

1027
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 2: recruiting right now?

1028
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 1: No, I don't really don't. It's not especially sexy.

1029
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: I want to go in this in this very specific moment,

1030
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 2: So I might go under over, I might go under, Okay,

1031
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: I'm inclined to go under. Next question, will they ever

1032
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: be happy again? That's a personal question. I can't answer that.

1033
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 2: For Nico there will be a special year, I'm not

1034
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 2: sure it's going to happen under this specific coaching staff. Okay,

1035
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 2: next question, who is your Jared? Who is your Big

1036
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 2: ten West dark horse? And why is it Nebraska? Why

1037
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 2: is it it's not Nebraska? Is it Nebraska for you

1038
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:14,479
Speaker 2: this year?

1039
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, Illinois, it's Illinois.

1040
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 2: It's got to be all to board for Luke Altmire.

1041
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: No, I hate myself tied. I had too that were

1042
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 1: much better than that one. I didn't.

1043
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 2: I just coming up with this on the spot, and

1044
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: you were sitting at home with your white board right later. Material,

1045
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 2: I am right in material. Okay, I think it's probably Illinois.

1046
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 2: If you give me a team who can ugly something

1047
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 2: up as a dark horse, I don't think they're the favorite.

1048
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: But if you give me somebody who can ugly it up,

1049
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 2: you give me an experience coach, uh interesting skill talent,

1050
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: which they obviously have at receiver and running back to me,

1051
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to go with Illinois in the short term.

1052
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 2: I think, certainly Matt Rules the better coach between he

1053
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: and Brettilomo. Because of that, I actually don't know about that.

1054
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 2: I think he's probably myself. He's a better program builder.

1055
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: Yes, he's got more of a track record as a

1056
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: program builder than Brett Bilamo, but not to the big

1057
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: Den West, well, not in the big twist. But but

1058
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: to be fair, we we have not seen him in

1059
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: one place long enough sure to see what he can

1060
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 1: do when he actually gets the program built. He's always

1061
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: jumped to a bigger, better job.

1062
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to take Illinois as the dark horse

1063
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 2: this season because I think they are building upon something,

1064
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 2: whereas Nebraska is starting from square one.

1065
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: So I'm going to.

1066
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 2: Take Illinois there as a dark horse. We discussed, you know,

1067
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 2: the the Wisconsin Iowa matchup. Minnesota is interesting to me,

1068
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 2: but I'm not sure i'd love where they're out on offense.

1069
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 1: Illinois is the dark horse. How about that Illinois dark horse?

1070
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: The schedule I think is favorable. They don't have to

1071
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: play Michigan or Ohio State from the East. They get

1072
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: Penn State at home in Week three. Penn State at

1073
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 1: that point in the season, and look, I've talked about

1074
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: that all offseason. That's a game that PennState loses or

1075
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: that that ends up being very very close in a

1076
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: weird way. They also get Wisconsin at home. The only

1077
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: road games on this slate in their Big Ten play

1078
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: are Purdue, Maryland, Minnesota, and the Iowa game second to

1079
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: last week of the year. So that's workable. It's not

1080
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: an easy schedule by any stretch, but I think it's

1081
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: very very workable. So Illinois the answer here, the only answer, Gary.

1082
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 2: Can you pick out some teams that have had very

1083
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 2: easily that have very easily achievable quote failure seasons that

1084
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,240
Speaker 2: could possibly lie ahead. A few I see are Ohio

1085
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 2: State eleven in Love eleven and one with a lost

1086
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,919
Speaker 2: to Michigan, losing the East, Texas losing the Big twelve

1087
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: in a year. They're the overwhelming favorite after not winning

1088
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 2: it since two thousand and nine. Ty, what were you

1089
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: had you met Kate in two thousand and nine?

1090
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: No?

1091
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 2: What year did you meet Kate?

1092
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,720
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty eleven?

1093
00:54:54,320 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 2: Okay, I met Jody two thy fourteen, So tex it's

1094
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 2: been a minute, and we've been married and I have

1095
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 2: children since Texas.

1096
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: Twenty eleven, twenty twelve. Yeah, it's been.

1097
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 2: Okay, Texas Okay, so and my Maryland Terrapins is Gary

1098
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 2: speaking seven to five, including another losing season in Big

1099
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: ten play. Would love to hear if you know of

1100
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 2: any more possible failure seasons that are very realistic to

1101
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 2: see happening.

1102
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: Tie. I mean, I'll come back to the two that

1103
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 1: I've been talking a lot about. Penn State going ten

1104
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: and two with losses only to Ohio State and Michigan

1105
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: would be a failure.

1106
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of humps that have not been summitted.

1107
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: Penn State going ten and two with those losses would

1108
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: be a failure. I think Notre Dame nine and three

1109
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: losing to Ohio State, USC and Clempton would also be

1110
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: a failure. Yeah, you need to win one of those.

1111
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 1: If you're not win one, ya gotta win one. Even

1112
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: if they go nine and three having beaten one of

1113
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: those teams but losing to a team like an NC State,

1114
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: I think that would be less of a failure than

1115
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: going zero to three against those those three big guns

1116
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: that are on the schedule for Notre Dame.

1117
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 2: Man Florida State being ten and one heading into the

1118
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 2: Florida game and losing that and losing a playoff spot

1119
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 2: because a C plus Florida team beat Florida State. I

1120
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 2: could see that as a potential failure.

1121
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 1: That would be brutal.

1122
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, if Alabama loses, If Alabama is not representing the

1123
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 2: West in the SEC Championship game this year, consecutive seasons

1124
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 2: a failure, that's a failure. So good season that is

1125
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 2: ultimately a failure given expectations, given the inability to get

1126
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 2: over a very specific hump like I mentioned this, like

1127
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 2: Oregon go ten and two and lose to Oregon State

1128
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 2: and Washington, but beat USC and Utah. Total failure, absolute,

1129
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 2: total failure in the last season of the Pac twelve,

1130
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 2: in the last real season of college football. According to me,

1131
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 2: that would be a total and complete catastrophe.

1132
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: What Yeah, what represents failure for a school like Texas

1133
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: A and M this year? I think Texas A and

1134
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: M is so interesting because we know it's not a

1135
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 1: talent issue. It just can't be. It can't be a

1136
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: talent issue with the talent that they have a mass

1137
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: over the last couple of recruiting cycles. Obviously, we know

1138
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: about some of their concerns with their offense and perhaps

1139
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: Jimbo Fischer's stubbornness with respect to handing some of that

1140
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: control over to Bobby Petrino. But ultimately, it's a really

1141
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: tough schedule. If you're A and M and you go

1142
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: eight and four and be decidedly better than you were

1143
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: a year ago, and that would not be the kind

1144
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: of thing that I think fans are excited about. So

1145
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: what represents success if you're an A and M fan.

1146
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 2: Success, Well, if Connor Wegman is one of the best

1147
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: four quarterbacks in the SEC, that's an overwhelming success. Because

1148
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 2: if Connor Wegman is one of the best four quarterbacks

1149
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 2: in the SEC. So let's say what alongside Jaden Daniels,

1150
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 2: Carson Beck, Joe Miller. I don't know what, there's a

1151
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 2: bunch that are good. But if he is one of

1152
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 2: the best four, they should win nine games. Right against

1153
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 2: a tough schedule, they should win nine games.

1154
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: And so what.

1155
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 2: Represents failure if you're A and M right now, If

1156
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 2: they lose at home to Mississippi State, if they lose

1157
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 2: at home to South Carolina, if they lose to Arkansas

1158
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: neutral site, if they lose to Auburn, if you lose

1159
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 2: a couple of those, that means you're probably going seven

1160
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 2: to five with how the rest of the set schedule

1161
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 2: shakes out. And if you're not good enough to beat

1162
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 2: one of those teams at home, you're probably a seven

1163
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 2: and five ish win team if they don't have a

1164
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 2: top fifty offense with what they return in great receivers,

1165
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 2: a much healthier offensive line, and a Connor Wegman.

1166
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: A Connor Wegman.

1167
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: How about just Connor Wegman at quarterback who was looking

1168
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 2: like he was emerging at the end of last season.

1169
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 2: I think it's a failure. So I don't know if

1170
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 2: there's a specific number, but if you lose at home

1171
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 2: to any of those teams who are not as talented,

1172
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 2: who don't have a quarterback of the future in the

1173
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 2: same way, total failure.

1174
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: I agree. Let's move on or next question.

1175
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 2: Question that was from Gary from verbalers dot com. How

1176
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 2: will you celebrate the first Oregon Penn State Big Ten matchup?

1177
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 2: I'll take tie to Eugene. I've been very clear that

1178
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 2: I enjoyed the hell out of my time in state college,

1179
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 2: but I have no intention of ever attempting to travel

1180
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 2: to state college ever again.

1181
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: Okay, so what all right? So if we're going to

1182
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: Eugene for the game, Yes, out there. What are we

1183
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: doing for the game when it's here? You want to

1184
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: come to my house?

1185
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll come over to your house and watch it

1186
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 2: with you. Yeah, Driller, buy me a pizza oven or something. Now,

1187
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 2: I'll bring my own pan. I'll make a pan pizza

1188
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 2: in your oven. Yeah, we'll watch it together.

1189
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: We'll watch it together. That's what we'll do.

1190
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 2: When are we getting that? Has the Big Ten announced?

1191
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 2: When they're actually releasing the twenty twenty four schedule? Because

1192
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 2: they were they have to revise. Yeah, announced the matchups,

1193
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 2: but not the dates.

1194
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: I think I feel bad for the guy that that

1195
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: had to put together the first schedule reveal because the

1196
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: whole damn thing over again. Yeah. So I don't know

1197
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: when they plan to give us more details on that,

1198
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: but that'll be funny.

1199
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 2: You know, that's actually Oregon Penn State. First of all,

1200
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 2: they have played that was that road Hole in the

1201
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 2: ninety four season, so the ninety five Rose Bowl. I

1202
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 2: remember that was kind of my first real awareness of

1203
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 2: Oregon football. Like I knew about the state, but didn't

1204
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 2: know that they were the Ducks or anything. I was

1205
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 2: ten years old, eleven years old or something at that time,

1206
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 2: and I remember on a road trip to northern California.

1207
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 2: We stopped off at the Nike outlet, which all cool

1208
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 2: people do to die. Stopped off at the Nike outlet,

1209
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 2: and you can see in the background, if you're watching

1210
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 2: this on YouTube dot com slash at solid verbal, I'm

1211
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 2: pointing to a vaguely green, blurred out hat in the background.

1212
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 2: It's an old Oregon hat with like carpet fuzz uo

1213
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 2: like that's the material that makes up the uo on

1214
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 2: top of it. So it would be a really cool

1215
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 2: rematch of I mean, that season was what propelled Oregon

1216
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 2: into convincing Phil Night that they needed an indoor practice

1217
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 2: facility and investing a ton in the program.

1218
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: So that's it.

1219
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 2: It's actually a kind of a huge deal matchup, even

1220
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 2: though I want to say it was Carrie Collins and

1221
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 2: Kajona Carter just demolishing Oregon in that Rose Bowl. Look,

1222
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 2: I mean, if Penn State and Oregon, I think the

1223
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 2: big deal matchup to me, So I would love to

1224
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 2: watch it with you. If they make the Big Ten

1225
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 2: Championship and play each other, we can go on a

1226
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 2: bender in Indianapolis, Man Las Vegas, Nevada. Kind Sir, isn't

1227
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 2: that the rumor that they're moving. I don't think i've

1228
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 2: seen anything official.

1229
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: I know what a terrible idea. I hate that idea,

1230
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: I really do.

1231
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 2: I hate it anyway, Okay, next two more questions, Jason,

1232
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 2: will realignment increase or decrease viewership in the next year?

1233
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 2: So or not in the next year, next year? So

1234
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four season, five years, ten years? I

1235
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 2: say yes, no, no, I don't know what it's going

1236
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 2: to do in five and ten years.

1237
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: I college football changes so quickly in five weeks. If

1238
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: you're asking me to give a projection five years now,

1239
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 1: I can't do that. But I can tell you what

1240
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: I think happens next year. I'm really excited about next year,

1241
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of other folks, after they

1242
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 1: have a chance to let all this digest, will be

1243
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: as well. There's definitely going to be a bit of

1244
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 1: charm that gets lost with college football next season, because

1245
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: it feels like college football goes corporate in twenty twenty

1246
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:20,479
Speaker 1: four and beyond. I get that completely. We have people

1247
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: writing in you and I talk about it separately. I

1248
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: feel the same, okay, but there is a novelty to

1249
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: next season that cannot be under soul, and I think

1250
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 1: just in terms of how people pay attention to the

1251
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: season oftentimes what we see and we track this stuff. Obviously,

1252
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: you get to mid October, your team's got two losses.

1253
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 1: At that point, suddenly you feel like you're out of it.

1254
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: You stop paying attention, stop download in the show. Hope

1255
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: you don't down. Hope you don't stop download in the show.

1256
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: But people don't. And every every college Foblell podcast has

1257
01:02:55,640 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: that exact same pattern in their numbers. I think next

1258
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: season the interest will be prolonged. The interest will be

1259
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: prolonged because there will be more teams that are still

1260
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: in it with a shot at the playoff later in

1261
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: the year. I think the playoff will make things very

1262
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: very interesting. Remember, the first week of playoff games are

1263
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: on campus. There's a novelty factor to that that we've

1264
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 1: never seen in college football before. And those games, those

1265
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: games start when we're accustomed to seeing, like the Bahamas Bowl,

1266
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 1: the very very first week of bowl games December seventeenth ish,

1267
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: that's when we're going to get those first on campus

1268
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 1: playoff games. So we go right from conference championship week

1269
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: into you know of kind of like a dead period

1270
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 1: ten days whatever, to get your house in order, and

1271
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: then we jump right into the playoff. I just think

1272
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: it happens quickly enough, closely enough to what would typically

1273
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: be the college football end of season that fans will

1274
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: still be engaged, still be interested in it, still willing

1275
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: to watch the playoff, and I think it's gonna be

1276
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: the craziest year yet of college football. So I'm I'm

1277
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 1: excited about it, despite the fact that there's obviously a

1278
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: lot about it that we don't want to like.

1279
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 2: So I think next year the ratings are going to

1280
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,959
Speaker 2: be very, very good. I don't like I'm not good

1281
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 2: at thinking about ratings, figuring out what they mean. Whatever.

1282
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 2: On huge year, I think, I think there's going to

1283
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 2: be a lot of interest in the sport next year

1284
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 2: to see about you know, Texas and Oklahoma in the SEC,

1285
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 2: and Colorado and Deon Sanders in the Big Twelve presuming

1286
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 2: he's still there uh next season.

1287
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: Uh.

1288
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 2: And the Arizona schools that's new of course, Oregon and Washington, USC,

1289
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 2: UCLA and the Big Ten. Like, there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: movement around the sport. There's a lot of novelty. I

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01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 2: think people are going to be quite interested, certainly with

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Speaker 2: the second year now of more network television at night,

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01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 2: you know in the Big Ten in the SEC because

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01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 2: that game that it's a more ABC involvement in the SEC.

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01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 2: Certainly now with CBS NBC with the Big Ten, like

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Speaker 2: there is just going to be a bigger platform at

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01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 2: college football is going to be on a bigger stage

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01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, specifically to bet on almost infinite

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01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 2: growth of the sport as it gets more complicated, as

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01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 2: we lose rivalries, as the novelty of a twelve team

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01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 2: playoff and the novelty of this specific round of realignment.

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Speaker 1: You could have.

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Speaker 2: Florida State in a couple of years, in a few

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01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 2: years if they figure out the financials. Obviously it's not

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01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 2: happening in twenty twenty four for other ACC teams or

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01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 2: maybe Notre Notre Dame joining the Big Ten. There's nothing

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01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 2: novel about Notre Dame playing Ohio State or Michigan or

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01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 2: Michigan State or a maybe kind of Penn State. But

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01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 2: like they've played these programs recently, they have a history

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Speaker 2: of playing these programs, whereas there's a little bit more

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Speaker 2: of a novelty factor elsewhere. I just think college football

1312
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 2: is going on a path of being complicated and going

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01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 2: away from charm in a way that is going to

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Speaker 2: hurt its growth. And it's always been an older sport.

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Speaker 2: It's always been a sport that has attracted an older audience.

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Speaker 2: And I just I don't know. I think everything is

1317
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 2: going to become so fractured even more in entertainment that

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Speaker 2: there's going to be whether it's more streaming services or

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01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 2: more digital entertainment whatever that I just I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, you can say that like, well,

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01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 2: they're they're ratings share, they're you know, the people that

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01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 2: are actually watching cable TV or watching sports like college

1323
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 2: football is still doing well, but I don't know, the

1324
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 2: advertising industry still needs what impressions, you still need, you know,

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01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 2: growing numbers.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm out on college football growing forever. And

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01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 2: so the next five ten years are gonna We're going

1329
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 2: to reach a point where why is Indiana in the

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Speaker 2: Big ten?

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Speaker 1: Why is Northwestern in the Big Ten. That's what I'm

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01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: worried about. That's so that's what I'm worried about. We

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01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 1: talked about that with Dan Carlin.

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Speaker 2: You're just gonna episode You're going to turn people off

1335
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 2: who appreciate the college football that they grew up with,

1336
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 2: and it's going to appear to be foreign to a

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01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 2: lot of people if we go down on that road.

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01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 2: And I don't know, it just seems like the toothpas

1339
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 2: is out of the tube. So I'm gonna watch, I'm

1340
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 2: gonna podcast, I'm going to do all sorts of fun

1341
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 2: things around the sport. I'm gonna love what the great

1342
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 2: things about the sport. But there is like there's going

1343
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 2: to come a day where college football is going to

1344
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 2: resemble something completely foreign to what a lot of people

1345
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 2: grew up with. And I don't know if that's going

1346
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 2: to turn off everybody. I think it's going to turn

1347
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 2: off a segment of people who are going to say,

1348
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 2: you know what, there's only thirty however many teams. At

1349
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 2: that point in the NFL, you got recognizable faces year

1350
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 2: and year out, and you're not worrying about like sudden

1351
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 2: transfers and NIL issues and coaches leaving in the same

1352
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 2: way that it's just easier to follow, and maybe people

1353
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 2: start even more making that transition to the NFL and NFL.

1354
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 2: Only I could see that happening. I'm going to appreciate

1355
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 2: college football for as long as I can. But no,

1356
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 2: I would bet against infinite growth for the sport.

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01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 1: Last question, Dan, last question question, Let's go to Jacoby. Yes,

1358
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 1: what are we going to get to board the Twes

1359
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: Cruise again? Dan?

1360
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 2: The Twoes Cruise was twenty nineteen. Yeah, the twenty nineteen season,

1361
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 2: we did a nautically themed weekly Tuesday show called The

1362
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 2: Twoes Cruise where we just went after sort of big

1363
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 2: picture weekly questions and we did exercises around college football,

1364
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 2: but we had sound drops and generally tried to become

1365
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 2: I'm trying to I'm struggling to make a seaman joke here, Ty,

1366
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 2: I really am. If I can't come up with one

1367
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 2: that's good enough, I'm just going to move forward. But no,

1368
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 2: we decided to view it through a nautically themed periscope,

1369
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 2: so we are not going to be returning to the

1370
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 2: Twoes Cruise. Though maybe we could do it as like

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01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:03,759
Speaker 2: a one off. We could rent out the college football

1372
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 2: boat on Lake Wall I pop pack, right, But no,

1373
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 2: it's the Two Screws as a weekly thing. That was

1374
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 2: a twenty nineteen thing. But we're doing a bunch of

1375
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 2: other fun stuff with the show.

1376
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 1: Are we not. I'm so excited about this season. We

1377
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 1: talked about our Patreon tiers. We talked about what we're

1378
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: doing with bonus content and how things are gonna work

1379
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 1: on that side. Maybe we could take a few minutes here,

1380
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: just take a knee and talk about what the season

1381
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:28,640
Speaker 1: has in store for you and I and how we're

1382
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 1: gonna I'm ready, okay, how we're gonna cover the games?

1383
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 1: Do you have that sound at the ready?

1384
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, of course what are we doing on Saturday nights?

1385
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 1: Time got the shoulders going a little bit over here.

1386
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 1: So here's the way this is gonna work. Take that

1387
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 1: music down just a little bit. Every Saturday night, after

1388
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 1: college football ends or as it's about to end, you

1389
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 1: and I are going live. We're going live on YouTube, yes, live,

1390
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,520
Speaker 1: for the world to see. We're gonna record our recap episodes.

1391
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 1: Then they will be made available immediately on our public

1392
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 1: podcast feed. Of course, you can get the ad free

1393
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: version over on forballers dot com. But no longer do

1394
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 1: you have to wait until Monday to get the recap

1395
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 1: of the week that was in college football. Oh, by

1396
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,679
Speaker 1: the way, there will also be another live stream as

1397
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 1: we prepare for the weeks ahead. You and I are

1398
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 1: recording this on a Wednesday. This is the last Wednesday

1399
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,839
Speaker 1: you and I will be recording an on demand episode

1400
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 1: because esday's round lunchtime. We'll make sure that we post

1401
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 1: the official time. We'll keep it consistent week in and

1402
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 1: week out. Wednesdays, we're going to do our preview episodes

1403
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: live on YouTube as well, so two live streams for

1404
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 1: everybody out there. Again, we're going to drop those to

1405
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 1: the podcast feed right away so that you have more

1406
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: time to listen and react and write in and be

1407
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: part of the forballer Hood Dan. Yes, and then also

1408
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 1: our third episode will not be on Tuesday, but we'll

1409
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 1: be on Mondays because we're going to be recording late

1410
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: at night on Saturdays. There's a pretty strong likelihood we're

1411
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: going to miss a few things here and there. Yeah, yes,

1412
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 1: pretty strong likelihood that that's it.

1413
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 2: We don't want to disrespect what happens in the late

1414
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 2: night Cawwazoo game or disrespect the crazy performance that Western

1415
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 2: Michigan had against ball State something like that. And so

1416
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 2: if it happens late, if it happens, you know, at

1417
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 2: the same time as other huge games, and we can't

1418
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,480
Speaker 2: give the game, the respect and dignity and time it deserves.

1419
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 1: We'll hit it Monday. We'll hit it on Monday. That's

1420
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: the way it's going to work. Monday is going to

1421
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 1: be dedicated to our burning questions, really things that we

1422
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 1: had questions about after we had a chance to really

1423
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 1: think it through, after we got a good night's sleep

1424
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 1: and realize that we forgot to mention a key point

1425
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 1: on our Saturday Night Slash Sunday Morning Recap episode. The

1426
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 1: first part of that episode will be available for public

1427
01:11:56,680 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 1: consumption once we start getting into listener questions, once we

1428
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 1: start getting into other nuts and bolts of the week

1429
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 1: that was That stuff's going to be available over verballers

1430
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 1: dot com. So three episodes for everybody. M hmm. This

1431
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 1: coming season on Sundays, on Mondays, and on Wednesdays, we'll

1432
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 1: have bonus content that is available to our Patreon for

1433
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: Ballers at forballers dot com again, go and check that out.

1434
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:28,480
Speaker 1: That'll be available on Mondays and of course on Thursdays.

1435
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 1: That is our plan for this coming season. We're so

1436
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 1: excited about it.

1437
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 2: I've been thinking about my mel Tucker sleep bank for

1438
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 2: Saturday nights basically all years since We've decided that we're

1439
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 2: going live late Saturday night with all the full show

1440
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 2: available immediately thereafter. And so if you wake up early

1441
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 2: Sunday morning for a run, or you're going rowing, or

1442
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 2: you're cleaning the house, the episode is going to be

1443
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 2: there for you Sunday morning, bright and early. But yes,

1444
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 2: I've already thought about, Okay, at what time do I

1445
01:12:58,800 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 2: take a coffee nap?

1446
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 1: Five minutes?

1447
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 2: You know, powerk nap with coffee right beforehand, so that

1448
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 2: you pop right when you wake up? Am I going

1449
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 2: to take a cold shower at ten eighteen pm?

1450
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 1: Right?

1451
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 2: All of those things? Am I going to jump rope

1452
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 2: three separate times before we hit record so that I

1453
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 2: can give myself, I can fake the energy that late

1454
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 2: at night, because I'm an old person now in my

1455
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 2: fifth decade of life. Been thinking about that for a

1456
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 2: solid eight and a half months. That's all.

1457
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a logistical challenge, a Herbulean effort for

1458
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 1: you and I to cover all of these games. But

1459
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 1: we're excited to do it, excited to do it late

1460
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: on Saturday night. So we hope that those of you

1461
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 1: who are out there night owls, if you're out on

1462
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:46,520
Speaker 1: the West Coast, if you're in Hawaii, perhaps in Australia.

1463
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 1: We've got all sorts of ballers across the globe. Hope

1464
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 1: you can join us, be part of the conversation out in.

1465
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 2: What Oh my god, what's going to happen if we

1466
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 2: make a bad decision food wise.

1467
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 1: And we have to we can't cut it. It's live.

1468
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 2: You can cut it after the fact, but the people

1469
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 2: watching are going to be in for a treat when

1470
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 2: Ty discovers the burrito he ordered wasn't exactly the healthiest

1471
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 2: for his body.

1472
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 1: Join us on Saturday nights, on Wednesdays, probably at some

1473
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 1: point in the middle of your workday, and of course

1474
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:26,759
Speaker 1: on on Mondays for our kind of bigger picture episode.

1475
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm exciting.

1476
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:31,879
Speaker 2: Wait yeah, YouTube dot com slash the at sign solid

1477
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 2: verbal subscribe now, that would be my biggest recommendation for

1478
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 2: all things. We're posting literally every weekday, we're posting videos

1479
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 2: and certainly during the season live on Saturdays and Wednesdays,

1480
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 2: and so we'll be posting throughout the day as well

1481
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 2: on Saturdays, and so listen, man, we're here for you.

1482
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 1: We're here for you. We got one final segment and

1483
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 1: then we'll let the fine people go, Dan, Okay, do

1484
01:14:55,560 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 1: it Tie versus the World? Good Time versus the World

1485
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:08,679
Speaker 1: presented by Draft Kings Sportsbook. Our friends over at Draft

1486
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:13,879
Speaker 1: King's Sportsbook have resurrected a popular segment from this season

1487
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 1: and call it Tie versus the World. It is essentially

1488
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 1: me against the betting public. Dan, I've got a handful

1489
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 1: of saucy bets, spicy bets that I want to just

1490
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:31,799
Speaker 1: put before you today. Please let's start with our spicy Betsy.

1491
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 1: You already heard about Ohio plus two and a half.

1492
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 1: I feel very, very good about the rourkeining that is

1493
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 1: about to happen in Snapdragon Stadium. So mark me down

1494
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 1: for Ohio plus two point five. Mark me down for

1495
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: Vandy minus seventeen and a half points. I love my

1496
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt Commodoors. Not just the over three and a half

1497
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 1: this year. You can still get that bet, but also

1498
01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 1: Vandy minus seventeen and a half at home against the

1499
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 1: Hawaii Rainbow Warriors.

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01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,520
Speaker 2: Giving them a lot of clark Leeway.

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Speaker 1: Hey, that's not bad. And last, but certainly not least,

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Speaker 1: you TEP minus one. I think we both like you

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Speaker 1: TEP minus one, don't we do? Yes, both feel pretty

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Speaker 1: good about that. And to really put a cherry on

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Speaker 2: Dan, by the way, speak for yourself. This is Tie

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Speaker 2: versus the world. This is not Tie and Dan versus

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Speaker 2: the world. My special parlay this week.

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Speaker 1: Very contingent on Notre Dame and USC ooh, playing up

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Speaker 1: Of course you came up with that name, not me,

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Speaker 2: Well, they're not playing each other.

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Speaker 1: They're not playing each other in this In this case,

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Speaker 1: you're rooting for both of them, yes, to succeed. So

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Speaker 1: we've got a combination of four things that need to

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Speaker 1: happen in order in order for you to hit this parlay. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame needs to win by more than sixteen and

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Speaker 1: a half points. Remember you said seventeen points earlier. Technically

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Speaker 1: that would hit. You need Notre Dame minus sixteen and

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Speaker 1: a half. You need Notre Dame to score more than

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Speaker 1: thirty three and a half points, don't hate it. You

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Speaker 1: need USC to cover a first quarter first quarter line

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Speaker 1: of eight and one half points okay, and you need

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Speaker 1: usc to really go hull hog here and score more

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Speaker 1: than forty nine and a half points. All four wow,

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Speaker 1: of those things need to hit. All four of those

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