WEBVTT - Regressive Politics 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:14.800 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to bokay f Daily with 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:20.600 Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Brooklyn Bunker. Folks, Yesterday, 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:24.840 I found myself needing to turn the news off because 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:30.440 I'd burst into tears. And I find that this is just, 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:33.720 you know, par for the course of what it means 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:39.440 to live in a devolving country, a regressive country, a 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:45.080 dangerous country that you can no longer trust your elected officials, 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:49.559 your government agencies to actually care about the people of 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:54.080 this nation. I'd never really realized because I'd never had 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:57.560 to experience that. We've never had to experience what the 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:05.240 emotional toll is of living in countries that are regressive, 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:10.720 that are dangerous, that hate women, that hate queer people, 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:15.759 that hate black people, and what that toll is. And 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:19.479 for me, as I was sitting at my kitchen table 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:26.040 watching the news, I burst into tears at new reporting 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:32.080 on the young man Jalen Walker, who was murdered by 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:37.240 police and acron Ohio shot sixty times. I listened to 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:41.160 white people once again make comments on social media, well 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:44.480 he shouldn't have run from the cops, fuck you, because 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:47.480 guests who also ran from the cops oh, I don't know. 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:53.000 The fucking murderer, Robert Crimose who killed was a known 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:58.440 fucking assailant, armed and dangerous, who ran from police, and 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:03.920 guess what, was taken into custody without fucking harm. What 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.200 does it say about a country that every single time 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:10.200 that we hear a report from media say the assailant 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.919 was taken into custody without harm, that everyone knows that 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:18.720 that person is white, right, and we just think that, well, 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:20.920 that's just what it means to live in America. No, 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:24.679 it's not, and it shouldn't be fucking acceptable, but it 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:28.600 is because this country is built on white supremacy, is 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:31.840 built on racism, is built on the blood, sweat and 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:38.120 tears of indigenous people. This is who America is. But 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:43.000 the new reporting about Jalen Walker is even more depraved 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:46.280 and disturbing than the sixty rounds if you can possibly 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:49.320 wrap your mind around that. It is the fact that 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:54.919 the police brought him to the coroner in motherfucking handcuffs. 0:02:55.440 --> 0:03:00.760 So it wasn't enough that you riddled his body probably unwrecked, ignizable, 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:06.799 with sixty rounds, but then you turned around and handcuffed 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:10.639 a dead man and brought him to the medical examiner. 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:16.440 What kind of depraved fucking human beings do that. You know, 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:20.320 it's so interesting to me that when you listen to 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:25.440 the media talk about these mass shooters, and they talk 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:28.960 about them with such fucking empathies such oh, we just 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:32.839 want to understand, and no, there's nothing to fucking understand. Right. 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:36.920 The only difference between a Robert Cremos and a fucking 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:40.760 police officer, an Akron or Uvaldi is a badge, right, 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:44.000 that's it. They have the same intent in their heart 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:47.280 to cause harm. Right, It's just so that the police 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:52.120 officers largely don't cause harm against other white people. But 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:54.760 that's not why they went to the force, right. It 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:59.600 was to extend their power of white supremacy and act 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:04.160 as overlords and slave catchers, right, that's their fucking goal. 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:08.800 And so you know, this country is just so fucked 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:13.119 up these days that like, you can't go through a day, 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:17.120 you can't get through an hour without just feeling sick 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:21.480 to your stomach. I was watching video that is now 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:25.640 circulating around as well with regard to the mass shooting 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:29.760 that took place in Philadelphia. You see these images up 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:35.120 above of the fireworks going off and people scattering below 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:38.080 running for their fucking lives because there is a shooting 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:41.360 that is happening. If that is not the perfect video, 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:47.720 along along with right the other images coming out of 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:53.160 Highland Park with turned over strollers and empty picnic chairs 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:57.160 and toys and the makings of what would have been 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:01.440 a parade in celebration scattered on an empty main street 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:06.280 in America filled now with police, police tape, and empty 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:10.520 bullet cartridges. Because this is the country that Republicans in 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.520 the Supreme Court want us to live in. This is 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:16.400 what they think is normal. They think it's normal that 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:20.279 a toddler is now orphaned. And now we can turn 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:23.560 all the people who have donated over two million dollars 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:27.919 at this point to help what alleviate the trauma that 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.440 this child and their family is going to now have 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:33.479 to live under for the rest of their lives. But 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:37.360 we turn those people, those average people, into heroes. They 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:41.120 shouldn't have to be, because we shouldn't live in a 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:46.720 country where a toddler is walking around a road aimlessly 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.920 and alone because both of their parents were gunned down 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:55.040 in an instant by an aar fucking fifteen just another 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:59.839 day in America. So whether you have the police shooting 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:03.400 black people in using them as target practice, as was 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:05.480 found by the Boy Scouts who were on a tour 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:12.440 to the police department in Detroit. You have multiple mass 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:15.760 shootings that happened over the celebration of independence, which I 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:18.280 have no idea what the fuck this country is celebrating 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:22.680 these days, because independence for whom? Freedom for who? And 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:24.760 now all of a sudden you have white people getting 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.000 him to the idea that they didn't want to celebrate 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:29.680 the fourth of July. Well, guess what, Black people haven't 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:34.920 been celebrating the fourth of July for a really long time, because, 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:39.040 much like I had said on July fourth, as I 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:42.800 was reciting Frederick Douglas's speech, what to the slave is 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:45.400 the fourth of July? You tell me what the difference 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:47.920 is in the things that he said, in the call 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:55.720 outs to Republicans into the absolute just debasement of what 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:58.719 it means to be free that we continue to witness 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:02.960 in this country. Tell me the difference other than the 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:06.760 fact that currently slavery is no longer legal. But give 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.359 the Supreme Court time, because I'm sure that they have 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:16.560 it on their docket for the October session. And if 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.560 all of this isn't enough. If all of this, If 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:23.720 all of this isn't enough, our friend doctor Jonathan Metxo 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.920 will tell us in today's show as he is recovering 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:31.520 from COVID which he got while he was on his 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:36.720 way back from Scandinavia, is that the two new variants 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:40.480 that have come out of Europe are guess what, guys, 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:45.680 really fucking bad because they are now going back to 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:50.560 working into people's lungs. So you are going to see 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:54.240 over the next couple of weeks hospitalizations rise, and guess what, 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:58.120 our second fucking vaccine shots not going to stand up 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:03.040 to this new variant. Welcome to what will be our 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:12.040 fall and winter again. I wish some days that there 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:17.800 was good news to offer. There isn't. Because the longer 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:20.760 that I sit here, folks, and the more that I read, 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:24.520 and the more that I'm waiting for Democrats to act 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:27.600 as if there is some sense of urgency, to act 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:29.920 like they give a fuck, to act like the people 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:32.440 gave them power, and not to do what the Vice 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.640 president did the other day, which was just throw up 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.440 her hands and say what do you want us to do? 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:41.480 Do what exactly? For Joe Biden to stand up It's 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:44.920 been almost two weeks since women lost the right to 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.600 bodily autonomy and people with uterus has lost the right 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:51.120 to bodily autonomy, and there is no fucking urgent action 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:54.320 being taken by this administration on things that can actually 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:57.000 be done. You can't even get that motherfucker to utter 0:08:57.000 --> 0:09:00.360 the word abortion, but he's supposed to be somehow standing 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:04.720 with women and people with uteruses. Bitch, sit down, Sit down, 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:07.520 because if this is what it looks like to stand 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:11.640 with us, then please go away. I don't know who 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:14.320 the fuck Democrats think that they are asking people for 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:16.720 their votes for and what it is that they're going 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:19.200 to show that they are doing. But right now, let 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.720 me tell you something. Miss me with your fucking fund 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:27.200 raising emails, miss me with your fucking prayer vigils, you 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:29.520 have power, But instead you want to go ahead and 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:33.080 make backdoor deals with Mitch McConnell to put in another 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:36.640 forced birth fucking judge on the courts? Are you fucking 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:45.120 kidding me? Oh my god, every day, every day feels 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:49.120 worse than the next. It's not sustainable. Don't ask me 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:51.680 what it is that we do, but this ship is 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:55.880 not sustainable. 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You know, really, Jonathan, 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.000 I guess at this point, which is to remind us 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:16.480 what we all seem to not know, which is that 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:22.160 COVID is still around and happening. People are still getting infected. 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:25.160 And I want you to tell us where we are 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:28.800 with the latest, because I'll say I have been out. 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:33.160 I was out for the holiday weekend. I'm not celebrating 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:36.040 this country, just out having a good time with friends 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:40.880 and family, and it does not look like from the 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:45.960 outside that there is still a pandemic happening. So explain 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:54.559 to us where we are right now. Uh well, I 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:58.400 feel like we're having grownhog Day honestly right now. I 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.000 mean I realized there's so many things happening right now, 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:04.760 and it's July fourth, and it's summer, and the country's 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:07.080 falling apart. So this could be like our last fun summer. 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:10.560 But I have to say I'm worried again for the 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:14.360 first time in quite some time about this. There's a 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:16.880 new set of Subbariant's B A four and B A 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:21.760 five that are coming from Europe. As you know, I'm 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:27.280 just recovering from them myself. But the issue is we're 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:31.280 seeing dramatic rises in infections in places where this has 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:37.280 become dominant. It's much more transmissible than the big oh 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:40.080 that we had last year, And I think the most 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:43.240 concerning thing for me is that there are reports that 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.400 people are having lung involvement. The thing about omicron and 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:49.520 why people could almost let their guard down a little 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:53.440 bit was that it was an upper respiratory infection, but 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:55.560 it didn't enter the lungs. But we're hearing more and 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:59.280 more reports from other countries and from lab studies here 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.760 that BA five has lung involvement, which is the thing 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:08.320 that remember got people into ICUs on restaurant. Yeah, and 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:10.720 so if that's the case, if we're going to have 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:15.880 a much more transmissible and also more dangerous subvariant, then 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:19.520 I think, as we've said, for what is it like 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:23.160 the thirty five years of the pandemic now, the virus 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.600 kind of sets the narrative despite all the other crap 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:29.520 we have going on. But really, if this subvariant is 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:32.280 as transmissible as people are saying, and it has the 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:35.760 possibility of making people sick, then I think we're going 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:39.400 to see a wave that's going to be here longer 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:44.520 than other waves we've seen and leading into the fall also, 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:47.000 So I think now is a time. I mean, I 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:49.000 believe me, I know how hard this is. I try 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:51.960 to convince my parents of this and my brothers to 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.679 like start masking inside again. I know that sounds ridiculous, 0:13:57.520 --> 0:13:59.680 but I would say if there's a time to not 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:03.360 get this, now would be that time, because there's our 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:05.800 possibility at least a lot of people are going to 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:09.959 get sick pretty soon here. But this is this following 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:13.160 I mean, this is our third year, right, Like we're 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.719 either headed into our third year or this No, we're 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:18.920 headed into our third year. So this is our second 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:25.160 summer dealing with COVID, right, And my question is this 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:28.280 is the same pattern that it has always shown that 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.760 as the summer progresses there is a new variant that 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:35.440 happens in the summer. Things get very dramatic in the 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:38.920 fall and in the winter, and then it subsides again. 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:41.840 This is the same I mean, tell me how what 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:43.920 you are seeing in terms of patterns, So I'm not 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:47.160 talking about intensity of the illness and where it's going yet, 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:50.480 just in terms of patterns of how it rocks like 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:56.400 this seems to be similar to omicron and delta. This 0:14:56.440 --> 0:15:00.640 thing is so much more spreadable than anything we've seen before. 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:04.280 Um and so I and you're probably hearing this people 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:08.240 like me who have been super careful for years now 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:11.480 have covid um and and maybe I let my guard down. 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:14.440 I'm sure I did. Also, I've went on an airplane. 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:18.560 I ate the meal for ten minutes. That's probably what happened. Um. 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:25.960 And it was a crappy ass meal also um um. 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:30.600 But but I would say that again, this is just me. 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:34.000 I worry that we could have a longer wave than 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:39.120 we've had before. And and I'm a I'm a doomsdayer, right, 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:43.640 that's what. Oh, you're not a doomsdayer, you you you 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:45.920 do not. You're not the bearer of bad news. You're 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:49.520 the bearer of reality for woke af and for every 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:52.680 other place that you speak in. I'm looking closely at 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:55.840 the data now, and and I'm saying that there are 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:59.040 two things that worry me. Number one is that prior 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:03.200 infection is not protecting people from this new variant. So 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:06.600 this is different, and that's bad. So it shows that 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:11.280 this new variant can escape, can escape the kinds of 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:15.600 protection we had from vaccines and from infections, and so 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.440 that's number one, and the number two, I'm kind of 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:21.120 worried about the cumulative effects. Like people are like, I'm 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:22.600 just going to go out and get it and then 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:26.360 I'll have immunity. But I think, actually, COVID is not 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:29.720 letting us do that narrative very well. I think the 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.640 narrative that we're seeing, unfortunately, is the more you get COVID, 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:36.120 the more cumulative bad effects you have in your body. 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:40.040 And so people who are now going to get it 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:43.960 for the second or third or four time are just 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:45.960 going to be at greater risk. It's not like your 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.600 immune system is ready and that kind of thing. And 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.440 the reason I say that again anecdotally, is people who 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:53.640 are getting at the second or third time or at 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:57.560 least from what I'm reading, potentially getting more serious cases 0:16:57.560 --> 0:16:59.280 than the first time they got it. And for me, 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:01.960 just as somebody who tries to pay attention to this stuff, 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:06.359 that's that's an alarm. So again I realize, you know, 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:10.000 we have the fallow democracy, We have bullets in the 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:13.880 air as much as virus particles. We have everything going 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:16.320 on right now. But I would also say that in 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:18.840 the middle of all that, it maybe is time for 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:22.680 people to play it safe the way they did earlier 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:25.920 on about indoor space just right now, because again there's 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:29.800 this new variant that's very, very spreadable, and we just 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:32.080 don't know what it does quite yet. But I'd say 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:37.200 the early reports of what's happening are not are not uplifting. 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:42.360 So what steps are being taken right now across the 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.439 pond in terms of how they are dealing with this 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.720 and talking about it, because again, I'll be honest, we 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:51.960 have not, at least that I have seen on the 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:56.160 news as of late, had any serious conversations, any serious 0:17:56.200 --> 0:18:00.920 segments dedicated to COVID that we were having six months ago. 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:06.520 So and that's that's what happens. The coverage wanes, the 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:11.280 conversations wanes, the restrictions you know, go away, and we 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:15.680 have all decided that this is done. So, I mean, 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:20.119 what are you hearing in terms of the precautions that 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:23.440 they're taking in Europe? Who is dealing with this right now? 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:27.639 I would say the one thing for the United States 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:31.159 that is the most alarming is that the Republicans in 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:36.760 Congress blocked any kind of COVID funding and so vaccine 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:42.679 roll out, vaccine update, testing, regiment rapid tests, all that 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:45.440 kind of stuff. There's no funding for it right now, 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:49.560 and so hopefully again I'm wrong and it's no big deal. 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:52.639 But if I'm right, like, let's let's see where we 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:55.680 are in two weeks. Basically, if this is a non issue, 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:58.480 I was wrong. If this is an issue, then we're 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.399 really in big trouble because we are prepared for what's coming. 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:05.840 And I would say that's not the case in other places. Certainly. 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:08.840 I was just in Europe before. I can guarantee you 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:11.399 I got this on an airline on the way back, 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:18.120 one hundred percent chance, and so I would just say, 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:22.760 over there, I mean, it's not like, oh my god, 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:26.199 they're doing the one thing that's like social distancing or masking. 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:29.480 It's that over there they have a robust health infrastructure, 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:32.800 so people have access to healthcare, so they don't like 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:35.720 wait till they're super sick and super infectious and then 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:38.719 go into the doctor. And so would they have beyond 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:41.960 any immediate thing, right, I mean, hopefully, you know, we're 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:43.960 going to see an updated version of the of the 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:50.359 vaccine here pretty soon, and hopefully hopefully you know, a 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:53.840 lot of stuff will be improving for our immediate treatment. 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:56.639 But I would say that our healthcare systems falling apart, 0:19:57.320 --> 0:20:00.640 and that to me is what isn't fallen up, Jonathan, 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:02.679 Like in all honesty, I mean, we're going to make 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:04.560 the transition in a moment because I want to talk 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:07.560 about all of the mass shootings that happened over this 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:12.760 you know holiday that's supposed to celebrate freedom, and you know, 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:18.240 the reality is is one Democrats or don't have any 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:20.480 type of conversation or push back to the fact that 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:23.280 it is Republicans that want to make sure that Americans 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:26.280 are as unsafe and that is including with COVID, that's 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:30.800 including with guns, that's including with everything as unsafe as possible. Right, 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:34.680 And so whether we're voting against people's healthcare, we're voting 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:38.520 against vaccine rollout and protection in a pandemic, you're voting for, 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:40.879 you know, everyone to be able to have an a 0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:44.320 R fifteen Like that's where we are. And so with 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:48.840 this iteration again of COVID, which everyone is emotionally, physically, 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:53.920 spiritually exhausted from, how do you foresee ringing the alarm 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:56.679 or is it just that we'll just wait for it 0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:59.720 to be as stage fucking five fire the way that 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:02.359 it it has been and flared up over the last 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:06.560 two years. I mean, it's in the United States. It's 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:10.639 at tension between people's ability to ignore that this is 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:13.920 happening and the virus is really excellent ability to get 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:18.120 our attention, and so if it happens, it's not like 0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:20.879 it's going to be super avoidable. I mean again, like 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:24.720 in the worst case scenario, people are going to really 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:27.360 see it because they're going to start getting sick. And 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:31.600 so I think that's I think that's it now. I 0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:34.080 hope I'm wrong. I hope this is just a rise 0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:37.240 of mild infection that is the last gasp of the pandemic. 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:43.760 But I don't know. I don't know. I honestly don't know. 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:46.399 At this point. Let me just I just want to 0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:49.440 articulate for everyone who has been listening to Jonathan over 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:52.960 the past two years on this show, you haven't been wrong, 0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:55.800 so the idea. So it's like I would love to 0:21:55.840 --> 0:21:58.400 be wrong too about the fall of democracy, Like I'd 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:01.360 love for somebody to be like Danielle, this is absolutely 0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:03.600 not going to happen, right, But the fact is is 0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:06.760 that we've been having these conversations because we're not wrong 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:12.639 and trying to avoid as much pain and fear and 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:17.800 anxiety and sickness as possible, right, Like, that's the point 0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:21.080 of the work that we're doing at this ederation. And 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:23.480 I just you know, you're right. Every time that we 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:25.760 turn our back on COVID, COVID taps us on the 0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:30.040 shoulder and it's like, no, no, I'm still here. And well, 0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:32.840 I mean, if if people want to do something to 0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:39.439 keep informed, follow hospitalization rates in Israel, like that to 0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:42.000 me is the canary in the coal mine. I realize 0:22:42.000 --> 0:22:46.240 it's exactly like the movie World War Z, but but 0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:48.439 I feel like that that's the country that has the 0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:52.159 one of the higher natural immunities, and when their hospitalizations 0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:55.800 start going up, then that means that this virus is 0:22:56.000 --> 0:22:59.480 breaking breaking through in a way. And so um, I 0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:01.320 mean there are other countries like that. I was just 0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:09.320 in Scandinavia. It's like ninety something percent vaccinated, and so 0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:11.400 I would just say, there are places where we can look. 0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:14.280 And it's not like I have any more information than 0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:17.800 anybody else. I just kind of I'm a non denialist. 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:20.440 I feel like, if it's happening in places that people 0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:22.480 know what's happening and they're prepared, it's probably going to 0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:25.000 happen here, and so that's that's kind of why I'm 0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:27.119 trying to spread the word of caution right now. If 0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:29.680 anybody's listening, I would just say, for the next two 0:23:29.720 --> 0:23:32.919 weeks until we know what this is, enjoy your summer, 0:23:32.960 --> 0:23:35.240 but wear a mask inside. You know. That would be 0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:40.480 that would be my main advice right now. Okay, So Jonathan, 0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:42.600 let's switch gears with a few minutes that we have 0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:47.640 left to talk about the escalation in um mass shootings 0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:52.320 and gun violence that we've seen over the last couple 0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:57.200 of weeks. There was a once again a black man 0:23:57.520 --> 0:24:02.399 gunned down in acron, Ohio, Jaln Walker, who I have 0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:08.600 gone on MSNBC to discuss the absolutely heinous and absurd 0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:12.240 use of force with eight officers in a traffic stop 0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:15.520 that ends in a hail of more than ninety rounds 0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:18.439 being released and sixty of them ending up in the 0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:23.040 body of a young black man. You have that where 0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:26.520 there has been, of course protests in Ohio because when 0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:29.439 black and brown people protest, we are protesting to not 0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:35.040 be shot dead and to have the same assumptions of 0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:39.000 safety and protection as white people do, which we know 0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:42.480 does not happen in this country. Then there was a 0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:48.520 shooting at a Fourth of July parade in a suburb 0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:53.840 in Chicago, twenty miles twenty miles away from Chicago, halfway 0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:56.479 through the parade, hail of bullets. It's been caught on 0:24:56.520 --> 0:25:01.800 TikTok video. By bystandards, I believe at this point, when 0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:04.080 the last time I saw it was six people that 0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:06.320 were dead, I think that now it may be eight 0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:11.720 or nine. And I believe that the shooter was finally caught, 0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:16.119 which means that they were white. And then there was 0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:21.880 another shooting in Sacramento. Jonathan, what are you making of 0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:24.200 all of this? Are we covering all of this more? 0:25:24.520 --> 0:25:28.280 Or is it increased violence? It's ink, Well, we certainly 0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:31.520 have more mass shootings. That's there's no doubt about that. 0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:37.480 We have more shootings. I trace everything back to unconscionably 0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:41.560 horrific and shitty gun policy. There are many more guns 0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:44.640