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Speaker 1: Any injuries coming out of yesterday or anything.

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Speaker 3: He's he's gonna be out long term. He got a

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Speaker 3: Other than that's the same. Ryan will still be down.

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Speaker 3: Hatty will still be down, and then everything else is

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Speaker 2: Will not You'll be out of it. Look like you

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Speaker 2: still have the Yeah, he'll be he'll be doing more today, yep,

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Speaker 3: Anything else injury wise, he's he's doing stuff today and

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Speaker 3: then he'll get looked at post practice for you, first.

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Speaker 2: Day out there, first good first day. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, he's been working hard over there running routes and

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Speaker 3: it's probably good for him to go against some some people. Uh,

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Speaker 3: what we'll do is, sorry, we'll keep him down today.

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Speaker 3: We'll keep shut down today. Just that's the rehab plan

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Speaker 4: Every other day.

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Speaker 3: Or like once, I'll just I'd just say down today

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Speaker 3: and then we'll just monitor it, you know, every day.

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Speaker 3: But just after this first one, we wanted to give

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Speaker 4: What do you see from Tiger Phillips to warrant getting

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's done a good job. He's done a good

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Speaker 3: goes back to the position flexibility, play outside, swing, tackle,

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Speaker 2: At him inside. I guess we'll find out a lot

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Speaker 3: You know, for the big guys, it's hard to evaluate,

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Speaker 2: Up put to evaluator.

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Speaker 4: When you get him kind of midstream last year, when

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Speaker 4: you're not doing all these evaluation practices gets it's different.

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Speaker 2: It's different. It's different.

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Speaker 3: I mean you can still evaluate them, but it definitely is.

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Speaker 3: It's a different evaluation because you are the stuff you're

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Speaker 2: It's broad. There's a ton of things.

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Speaker 3: We're trying a lot, a lot of different things that

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Speaker 3: but you still can evaluate well.

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Speaker 5: And what if you see from Trey Hawkins, it's a

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Speaker 3: A lot of like the young guys, you know, some good,

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Speaker 6: Would you say that it's a myth when you when

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Speaker 5: Is that a myth in your opinion?

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Speaker 2: You know, I think each person is different. You know.

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Speaker 5: You Isaiah Pudgins was not a typical go you know

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Speaker 5: But the way he came on late in the season,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, nothing really surprises me. I think he's

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Speaker 5: You always say, you know, one season doesn't have the other.

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Speaker 5: You know that I did it, I can keep going here.

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Speaker 5: We can start this way.

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Speaker 3: No, no, we just start back. You know, he's got

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Speaker 3: There's a different competition.

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Speaker 1: Does bibers have a still have a lot of rookie

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Speaker 2: You know, still a young player, still has a ways

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Speaker 6: Point in time with them with the offensive one.

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Speaker 6: You're rotating a lot of guys at a lot of positions,

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Speaker 2: I love. Did he do any guard with your practice

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Speaker 2: Think said yesterday that you're reminding guys that playoffs isn't

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Speaker 4: Is it important to talk about those things before you

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Speaker 6: What do you think of the pinoff interception?

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Speaker 2: Credit for even though you blew the play dead. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: That's what training camps for. That's why we're out here.

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Speaker 7: I know what you say might have misinterpreted your message,

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Speaker 3: No, I mean it's really we're day to day. We

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Speaker 3: I've said it a million times and it is. It's

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Speaker 3: it's not cliche. It is I've been part of teams

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Speaker 2: You got to really stay focused. It's a different year.

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Speaker 7: Do you do you alter your message?

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Speaker 2: But it really is a new year. The focus has

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Speaker 3: Have to continue just to kind of block everything out

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Speaker 3: job of. No, it's it's it's leadership, it's communication, it's practice, scheduling,

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Speaker 3: If it comes up this year, I can lean on

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Speaker 2: It's all new right now relative to.

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Speaker 3: Training camp and trying to build a team, and certainly

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Speaker 1: But you know, to the amateur, I've seen Deontay Banks

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Pat Assay, yes day, I think he's

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Speaker 1: gloves situation. You kind of alluded to it. You want

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Speaker 1: to challenge it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think we chalte try to challenge all our players.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're jumping right in. It's it's not like

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Speaker 3: the deep end right now, and you know, everybody's got

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Speaker 2: What do you like about how Daniel Jones has started camp? Uh? Consistent?

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Speaker 3: Uh, you know, which is probably a good word to

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Speaker 3: describe him as consistent.

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Speaker 2: Since I've met him and been around.

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Speaker 3: Him, he's He's done a nice job.

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Speaker 7: A couple more in general, there's more downfield shots yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Uh what do you attribute that to?

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Speaker 3: Uh, scheduling, scripting. Again, we're always trying to work on

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Speaker 3: different things. Maybe it's the short passing game. Maybe it's

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Speaker 3: it's you know, it's you know, we try to be

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Speaker 3: well thought out in our practice plans see different things.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday was just normal kind of down in distance, but

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Speaker 3: obviously we threw it down the field. Uh, yesterday, I'd

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Speaker 3: say quite a bit, which is good. You got to

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Speaker 3: see some of that too for your evaluations. It's you know,

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Speaker 3: there's building a team, it's scheduling, it's improving each day,

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Speaker 3: which is also about evaluation and testing different things out.

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Speaker 6: How do you see Wink interact with a rookie corner who.

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Speaker 1: Clearly has been you know, scheduled to start.

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Speaker 3: You know, we'll see how that goes, I guess, But

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Speaker 3: how how do you see Wink in that role? I'd

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Speaker 3: say the same that I see him with all the players.

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Speaker 3: I think he does a great job at interacting. He's

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Speaker 3: he's honest, uh, he tells the players what they need

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Speaker 3: to work on. He's a good communicator, he's got good

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Speaker 3: leadership about him. So it's not just with with Banks,

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Speaker 3: but it's you know with veteran players too. I think

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Speaker 3: he's just got a really good way about himself that

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Speaker 3: the players respect. And you know, he's been doing this

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Speaker 3: lot of different experiences, probably a lot of different uh conversations,

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Speaker 2: So it's good to have him.

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Speaker 7: Brian last Ford, just whatever you've seen out of Bobby

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Speaker 7: and how good of a combination can he be with

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Speaker 7: that Beavers?

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Speaker 2: I thought you were talking about Bobby Johnson Bobby.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's he's you know, he's been a good addition,

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Speaker 3: got good length speed, practice is hard. I think someone

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Speaker 3: asked about his leadership. He's done a good job in

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Speaker 3: that regard. So you know, we've been he's been playing

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Speaker 3: both spots. Somebody asked about that as well. You know,

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Speaker 3: we'll see, we'll see where it goes.

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