1 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Bona sera Jacoma, bona ganomini. You look quite plump and masterful. 2 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: What have you been eating? L Oh, nothing but the 3 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: finest fish, plums and of course all the fruits of 4 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: a woman. Let us take a cafe and sit on 5 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: this beautiful bench and look at the women of vans together. Okay, 6 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: my letter to the cardinal in Rome can wait. I 7 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: would love to catch up with you. So who is 8 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: this fine Venetian lady you took last night? And does 9 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: she have any sisters, cousins, mothers or godmothers. She is 10 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: a fine young, pure woman of virgin and her sister 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: is also a virgin, But no more after last night. 12 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: Oh my jackome off. Look at this woman who has 13 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: just entered the coffee house. She is the cousin of 14 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: one of these sisters, the virginary I took. That is 15 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: the lady Padua Lamania, Corrizima Pizza Balima. Oh my god, 16 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: I would love to take her to my cousin's gondola 17 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: and bent her over and lift up her stockings and 18 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: rub her legs with a fine lard, moisten her up. 19 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: Oh should I buy her espresso? Oh no, no, no, no, 20 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: no no, you should just simply watch and wait the 21 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: bit of flame. And look she has another aware in 22 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: the petticoat her ankle. It is so soft and tiny 23 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: and pure and virginal. It is getting me so excited. 24 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: I my linen pants are getting take my large book. 25 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: I was writing in my letters to the cardinal to 26 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: cover your own mail, Timber, thank you, Jacque. Come, I'm 27 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: so worried that my meat ball is going to be 28 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: seen by all the inquisition. Oh no, an older, more 29 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: voluptuous woman just walked in with that barrier version. Now 30 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: this is my time. Oh wow, she has a sturdy, 31 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: sturdy cast, even though she is so old and the 32 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: problem a widow and probably closer to death. Ador. She 33 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: also looked like a younger cousin, or a sister, or 34 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: a sister of a cousin. I could see your worshiping 35 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: at my goodness. Ja come, or look at you all 36 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: in the pants you are to ea my book? I 37 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: need so plump, So that must mean you know she 38 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: has so much money and I am in so much death. 39 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: I owe twenteen thousand lira to the cardinal. You have 40 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: done too much. A gamboline not tonight, or we should 41 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: play a plank and wonder of the nobleman of Nicia 42 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: where we hide his papalar ropes in the wardrobe of 43 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: another cousin sister and everyone am I to think of 44 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: that they're having an affair? Even though are you talking 45 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: about all these tricks? Giacomo Simo is making me feel 46 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: something I didn't know. Maybe im bisexual. I don't know. 47 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: I feel like we should go asleep, and I said bad. 48 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: But the face and the opposite direction, that's so nothing 49 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 1: to happen now, But Queen, that's but if it does, 50 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: it is simply a fun thing that happened between a 51 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: brother cousin and a father daughter brother cousins who are 52 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: having Venetian fun. I need an a parchment to cover 53 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: my shame for like zubarent excite. So that's what I'm seeing. 54 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: Who's that knocking at the door. It's all your friends, 55 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: your filthy horse, your husband's gone, and we've got books 56 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: and a bottle of wine to kill. It's Hollywood, it's books, 57 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: it's gossip. I'm shook. It's memoirs, Martinis. Cleb book Club 58 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,119 Speaker 1: can read it while it's hot. Celebrity book Club, Tell 59 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books. No boys are 60 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: allowed celebrity books. Say it loud and pow buzz man. 61 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: I brought the queer fellow. How are you, my Italian? 62 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: I'm so good to see you after a long days 63 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: a journal from Padua all the way to Felini, down 64 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: to Felini, to Roama, to the north of Napoli. Now 65 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: some may think, oh, you guys are talking in Italian accents, right, 66 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: you must be doing Isabella Rossellini's today. Yeah, because you 67 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:40,239 Speaker 1: guys love actresses and cook food and cookbooks and martinis 68 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: and wine and butter. I guess the fuck what, bitches, 69 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,239 Speaker 1: We're not going to zig. We're gonna We're gonna zact. 70 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: Just like we did with our winter vacations. We have 71 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: decided to go back in time to the eighteenth century Italia. 72 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: Venetz Yeah, Venetzia one of the most popping towns in 73 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 1: the seventeen hundreds. It really kind of like two Popping, 74 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: Like famously two Popping was the most poppings town in 75 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: all of Europe, and everyone was having to roll through 76 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: Venice because it was just like so wild. It was 77 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: kind of giving like New Orleans. Yeah, it's like Nolan's 78 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: plus Vegas. Yes, it was Nolan's plus Vegas, like a 79 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: little bit of NMCY because there's like tons of theaters, 80 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: tons of theater and culture, and it was very just 81 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: like you're doing your gap year, you have to go 82 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: to Venus, even though like it was still like really 83 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: ruled by the Catholic Church, which of course Italy is 84 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: still is today. Yes, but at the same time, the 85 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: Catholic Church, you know, they could feel their influence waiting 86 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: in any event, it was that environment that Bread. I mean, 87 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: you've heard his name. I mean it's as crazy you're like, 88 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: it's even real, it's even real, it's funny. I think 89 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: he's one of the only people whose name has become 90 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: a word, you know what I mean. Oh wait, that's 91 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: a really good question. I'm trying to think of other 92 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: names that have come a word, like Madonna the Pope. Yeah, 93 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: Madonna was a word before her. Not even Shakespeare. Like 94 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: you're not like, oh, I'm gonna go Shakespeare, which I 95 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: do want to start using and I am now going 96 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: to turn that just like everyone Shakespeare on his ass. 97 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: But it's like you wouldn't be like, oh, someone's a writer. 98 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: You would be like, he's a total Shakespeare as you 99 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: would just be like he's a casanova. He was like 100 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: a total Pulley and there's the reveal. So yeah, the 101 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: book that we read was The Memoirs of One Giacova. Look, 102 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: his full memoirs were gonna go ahead and run seventy 103 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: on one of my favorite sites, Amazon dot com. And 104 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: his full memoirs are thirty seven hundred pages like when 105 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: the French government like purchased them in like eighteen sixty 106 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,239 Speaker 1: it was just like the largest longest manuscript ever purchased 107 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: in the history of time, at three point two million words. 108 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: So we read an abridged version of like a section 109 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: which is basically just his time in Venice, and it 110 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: is called the Venetian Years. And red is also an 111 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: interesting way to put it. Because we did, yes, use 112 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: the New York Public Library System, support your libraries. We 113 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: listen to the audio book on the library app read 114 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: by none other than British actor Benedict Cumba Batch. And yes, ladies, 115 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: he does the voices. He'll go into like random like 116 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: Irish or Scottish voices when he's doing like more of 117 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: like a peasant farmer voice, right, and then like he'll 118 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: be a little like more like royal when he's being 119 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: like cardinal. Yeah, but and then he'll be like sexy 120 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: when he's just generally being Casanova. And like he does 121 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: do a girl voice at some point, doesn't he, Yeah, 122 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: like a slightly heightened girl voice when they're always just 123 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: like oh yeah. But then he's not really doing Italian 124 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: voices except when he says he'll say a name, just 125 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: being like and but then go back to his British. 126 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: It's just so how like all like movies about like 127 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: the Past or done in British, he just like keeps 128 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: in British in this like way. And then so I 129 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: watched Casanova, the movie starring Keith Lay. Also watched it 130 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: last night, Okay after I told you I was watching it. Yeah, 131 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: it's a ridiculous farce. It's a pretty ridiculous film. And 132 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: it's also in full British accent. Yeah, I mean the 133 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: Past is British, and it's like, well, you're not going 134 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: to have Heath Ledger just do an Italian accent in English. Yeah, 135 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 1: So just like let's just ta in English, like we 136 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: know we're speaking English. It's for an American audience. Just 137 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: one more thing about the audiobook is that it was 138 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: for CD, so that was even funny, like listen to 139 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: it as an audiobook and then it would be like 140 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 1: end of CD one, end of CD two. So the 141 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:53,599 Speaker 1: part where he's about to reveal whether the Castrado is 142 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: a man or a woman, Yes, he's I know you 143 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: want to hear. And two that I was just like, Benedict, 144 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: not your ass with this cliffhanger, with this gender cliffhanger. 145 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: Something about like a CD audiobook is so like nineties 146 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: horny woman too, like historical, like kind of big English 147 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: major buying this for like thirty one ninety nine Barnes 148 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,599 Speaker 1: and Nobles and like putting it in her Volvo and 149 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: taking like her forty five minute drive to her work 150 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: at a biotech firm. There is nothing that's not like 151 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: wildly horny and repressed about buying a book, any book 152 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: on CD because it's like five CDs. It's such this 153 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: commitment and you're just like, oh, yeah, this is just 154 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: for me. CD three, let's go okay. So yeah, a 155 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: little bit on Casa Nova, Like I didn't know much 156 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: about him, Like when you suggested Casanova, I was kind 157 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: of like, wait, he is He's real he's real. No. 158 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: I said that to my lover and he was just like, oh, 159 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: I thought it was just a word. This tree is crazy. 160 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: So he was born in Dahlia to two actors, which 161 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: basically for a woman to be an actor, that's they 162 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: in the beginning of the movie, they're like, she might 163 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: as well be a whole and I was like, go 164 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: all the way off, and it's just it's such ill 165 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: repute and so shameful for your mother to be an actor. 166 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: And so like his mother leaves him to be taken 167 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: care of my grandmother in Padua and she's like, oh, 168 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: I'll come back for you when I'm successful on the 169 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: grandmother's just basically that means when she's dead. Yeah, And 170 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: it's like it probably was considered to be a whore 171 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: and that's you know, of an actress at that time, 172 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: but Fifina was so respected at the same time, my 173 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: mind was boggled. Yeah, and this is the saxism of 174 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: the time. But you know, it's interesting. He does say 175 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: that it was good that his mother had been trained 176 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: as an actress because his father died at the tender 177 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 1: age of thirty six. His father got an abcess on 178 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: the head and died. Of course, this is very the 179 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: past where everyone's just randomly dying, And he was like, 180 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: and if his mother hadn't had that skill, she would 181 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: have been done for. She would have had no way 182 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: to make money, you know, and she would literally would 183 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: have been a horror on the streets. God knows, you 184 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: know what would have happened to her. So she was 185 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: able to make her own way. But of course, if 186 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: she wanted her son to be able to enter high society, 187 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: she would have to disentangle herself from him, right, so 188 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: she left him. But I do think that the early 189 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: death of his father was a childhood trauma that obviously 190 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: I think created the sexual pathology where he becomes this 191 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 1: love adduct and he's like, so I think he's like 192 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: trying to impress the father that never was. You're trying 193 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: to be a man earlier. Yeah, then you are. I 194 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: mean also, like time was different then, because like thirty 195 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: six was kind of already like fifty six. Time was different. 196 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 1: So then like he's sent to this kind of like 197 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: boarding house, so like to live with a priest or something. 198 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: And this also starts I think his sexual ways. He's 199 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: kind of groomed as we all are but by by 200 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 1: a slightly older like horny girl who's like fourteen and 201 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: he's eleven, and she's just like already taking his virginity 202 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: right when she's washing his legs. Yeah, it's all this 203 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: a crazy very that Twitter moment last year when people 204 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: are like white people don't wash their legs. Yes, it's 205 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: this whole like scene where she asks to wash his 206 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: legs like innocently, and he's kind of I mean obviously 207 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: not innocently, but he thinks it's kind of innocence. So 208 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: she starts like washing his legs and it's like so 209 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: sex I mean imagine. Also then he's wearing breeches, like 210 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: a short probably like a balloon short linen pant and 211 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: then breeches and then kind of like a small leather shoe. 212 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: So it's like take off the breeches. Oh yeah, no, 213 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: I mean the ritual, the ceremony, it's so a rat. 214 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: The bucket of water and huge Venetian sponge take note, 215 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: body maker people, people, what are you the beauty and 216 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: just tree Okay, word vibes, word vibes. I just feel 217 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 1: like having like a huge Venetian sponge could like really 218 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: be a product. Oh absolutely, no, I mean just the 219 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: word Venetian not used enough. We only talk about it 220 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: in the context of Blinds. And I'm kind of like, right, 221 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: let's just start branding stuff as Venetian because it would 222 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: fly off the shelves truly. So she's rubbing on his 223 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: legs and then his member, and this is the thing. 224 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: So this book is actually very A lot of the 225 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 1: language is quite chast He never actually like says anything 226 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: to tital In isn't really poorn. It's always just all 227 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: this metaphor. He'll be like, she continued washing until my 228 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: excitement could not be contained any further. I was like, oh, 229 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: this is where all classic paperback romance novel gets their language, 230 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: because everything is so yes, Mike's like referring to like 231 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: the dick as my excitement, right, he doesn't even say 232 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: member ever, He's always just saying my excitement could not 233 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 1: be contained. This was also translated from Venetian Italian, and 234 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: so I wanted there was some liberty because the word 235 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: dildo is oh yeah, I mentioned I mean that whole 236 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: scene is completely insane, and we will get to that 237 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 1: end of CD three. I was like, not this castrado 238 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: packing and like Constantinople. All right, yeah, packing and the 239 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: dildo and this like full queer play, like yeah, where 240 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: he's just like revealing himself to be a chaser. Okay, 241 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: let's keep moving. Let so basically like then he gets 242 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: aroused and she acts like she wasn't trying to like 243 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: turn him on, and she like leaves and then like 244 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: he's embarrassed, but then they do end up sucking her. 245 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: This book is so funny, and every scene is just 246 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: like him having an affair with like a virgin sister 247 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: and her sister. But halfway through the book he's already 248 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: had three SEMs with multiple multiple sisters, and it's always 249 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: just like someone is turning away in the same bed 250 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: and there's three people in like a single cot, and 251 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: you know it's like so creaky and like the most 252 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: insane like old school Catholic cot, and everyone's just like, 253 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: oh no, it's just normal for us to all be 254 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: in our dressing gowns, like all facing different directions in 255 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: a bed and pretending like we can't hear like full 256 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: penetration happening one inch away. Then I'm like, sisters are 257 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: straight abolts of hooking up with each other, And yeah, 258 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: I was, and he's like, and then the sisters started 259 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: kissing on each other. As sisters are want to do it. 260 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: They shower at each other with kiss girl on girl 261 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: like sisters. That's you were picturing. Cot I'm picturing kind 262 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: of saggy bed, shaggy bed, but I was picturing huge 263 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: poster boards. Oh, I guess, I feel like, but there's 264 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: so many. He's always in like side rooms, guests rooms, 265 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: like separate addicts, like connected to other drawing rooms, and 266 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: I'm just picturing so many, like you know when you're 267 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: like looking at an Airbnb in Italy and it's so 268 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: just like that's a random Catholic room that has like 269 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: a wash basin like built into the bedstand or whatever. 270 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: Very all the verbos I've been looking at for Puerto Virta, 271 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: don't you from my rental, from my family because you 272 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: need to take your seventy four year old mom to 273 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: a gay sex destination because you're sick in the head. Okay, 274 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: it's also very I'm seventy and expat and I want 275 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: like lots of shops and restaurants. No, I mean, there's 276 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: so much at your fingertips in ports of virus. I 277 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: guess that is the question which we can get to 278 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: the VIP lounge. Do we get a rental in the 279 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: Romantica Zone, which is like the LGBDQ destination more a 280 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: little more loud. It's gonna be so loud like Ganga 281 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: is blasting. Okay, So that actually confirms that I am 282 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: going to do the cosin Natalia rental, which is farther 283 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: out on the beach but not in really near many 284 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: bars and restaurants, but a cab away to the Romantica Zone. Yeah, 285 00:16:55,040 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: I think that just for sleep, getting your honk shoe, Okay. Yeah. 286 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: One thing I noticed though about boarding school was boarding 287 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: School in seventeen forty sounded a lot like Eaten in 288 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five with Prince Harry. It was very like, yes, 289 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: boys will be boys. They're gonna like run around like 290 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: after lights out and like get up to hi jinks 291 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: and be naughty and just like like I moved my 292 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: principles like nickers and then I put like mercury in 293 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: his Espiresso it was like a naughtier. It was the same, 294 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: but also a naughtier. My other take was like compared 295 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: to I mean, obviously the difference is like it's Europe, 296 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: and like Venice was way more like built up compared 297 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: to like our old timing Ben Franklin, Ulysses Us Grant books. 298 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: I was like, damn life and Venice be lit with 299 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: Lydias the motherfucking hidious over there. We're always just like 300 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: when we read the Ulysses and Ben Franklin, They're like yes, 301 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: And then I had gruel, and then we did have coffee. 302 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: But it was just like, you know, it was so 303 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: like black ground and like they're literally always had like 304 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: he's always at a coffeehouse in Venice, Like he's always 305 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: at the theater, like he goes to an opera every 306 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: single night, dinner reservations up the who you know there 307 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: is part of this is just like mediterran culture. Italian 308 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: culture has always been about like pleasure and culture and 309 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: like cultivation of the arts and like the aristocracy, like 310 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: you had to know all that and like you just 311 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: speak multiple languages and you like do all this stuff too, 312 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: like in order to be accepted into that world. But 313 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: then there's also the sort of Catholic first Protestant divide, 314 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: and I think after this schism and Martin Lutheran all that, 315 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: it's like the Catholic Church doubled down on That was 316 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: the whole Rocal Coup period. The Catholic are doubled down 317 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: on being fabulous, right, and that's like that's all why 318 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: they all like all those like boring Protestants sorry left 319 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: go to America. Yeah, because they were like sorry, like London, 320 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: which was like not that fab was like too fab 321 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: for them. They're like we need to go be so 322 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: fucking boring and uptight and go start this Puritan colony 323 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: in America. Yeah. I was in school. I was always 324 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: like so confused when I was like, wait, so the 325 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: Pilgrims were fighting for religious freedom, and I was like, 326 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: your religious freedom quote unquote was like to go be 327 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: like so quiet and boring, the freedom to be quiet, 328 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: and that is Massachusetts. I mean that's us like sea 329 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: back to the Sisters for a second. It's just like 330 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: so this is also around the time, like with all 331 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: the side doors. Like even though it's so fabulous and 332 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: he's being so slutty, the Inquisition is always after him 333 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,719 Speaker 1: and like he's always about to be expelled from Venice 334 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: by like a gay cardinal. But he's like in the 335 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: favor of like the whatever Governorreot and like it's always 336 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: because the movie is like ridiculous and kind of not 337 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: really goes along with the book at all, totally not realistic, 338 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: totally not realistic, totally ridiculous, but it doesn't really tract 339 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 1: the plot of the book. But one of the thing 340 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: with the movie is like he's always been chased through 341 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: Venice by the Inquisition, and like Jeremy Irons is like 342 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: ridiculous inquisitor who's always just like accidentally falling into a 343 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: gondola like whoa, whoa Cassanova like leaps over a bridge 344 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: and it's a kind of cgi I know with the 345 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: cgs actually kind of really funny in that movie, and 346 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: it's this way where it's like It's Uncanny Valley where 347 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: it's actually like more it's more like art vibes. Yes, 348 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: I was like this is like Ryan tre Curtain, like 349 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: when they're like jumping through roofs in and it's like 350 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: and they're in that hot air balloon and it's like 351 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,719 Speaker 1: so cookie in real laugh. Cassanova did get expelled from Venice, 352 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: like literally for pranking and heresy, whoa, okay the prank? 353 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: Would you get the part of the end of the 354 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: book where he digs up that guy's corpse, lay a 355 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: prank on that like whatever other and it's always just 356 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: like a bishop. He's always staying at a bishop's palazzo. 357 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: And then it's just like, well, I was terribly angry 358 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: at him because he like didn't deliver a letter like 359 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: to the servant maid that I had already like take 360 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: stolen the maidenhood of And so then I decided to 361 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: dig up a corpse, cut off the arm, and then 362 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: like put it in the bed with this guy. And 363 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: then the next day like like the guy like screams 364 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: and like Casanova runs away. And then the next day 365 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: everyone's just like you killed and he's like what And 366 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: they're just like he's now like paralyzed for life because 367 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: he's so afraid of this corpseos just another joke. I mean, 368 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: I do love the elaborate pranks that were being played. 369 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: What a what a town of leisure? What her? And 370 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: just fun, you know, because they always talk about theis 371 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: and I don't know the world, like oh small towns 372 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. How you like get into trouble 373 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: and it's like what kind of happened? Like true royal 374 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: Venetian pranking. Yeah, like so there's this one prank at 375 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: like this like large dinner, massive dinner party they're having. 376 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: It's it's always just being like, dinner was lovely. It 377 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: lasted three hours. We had many, many delicious courses of 378 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: grouse and many many delicious wines, and we were all 379 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: quite satisfied and ready for bed. Then I snuck out 380 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: of my quarters and into the waiting chambermates and her 381 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: sister's cousin, and I climbed into bed. He also never 382 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: knows like who he's hooking up with. He's like, it 383 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: could have been like Nanina Buttina, Oh, her cousin like 384 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 1: Leo Metta. And he's like so, and he always refers 385 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: to like, also, sex is voluptuous. He's like, we were 386 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: in the most voluptuous embrace. So we started doing our 387 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: thing again, not saying sex. And then always a sister 388 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: is like, no, you need to fuck my sister. Look, 389 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: she's horny, like, please do me the honor of fucking 390 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: my sister. Yeah, yeah, I know. Everyone's always apologizing and 391 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: being like, uh, I know, I'm like supposed to be married, 392 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: but like, please fuck my sister, but also please fuck 393 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: me so I can like learn about sex Okay. I 394 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: also of how he you know, he's quite an an aesthete. 395 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's very he's very like into describing the 396 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: particulars of I mean, he's a dog. He's a total dog. 397 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm sure some things are not mentioned here, 398 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: but I was like, you actually seem kind of like 399 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: a lover and you're like more into women than you 400 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: are into men. So resolved. I think that he was 401 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: a feminist in his day, although he probably would not 402 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: be called one today. And I think that this book 403 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: is ultimately like a feminist home because it is about 404 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: women's pleasure. It is about the pursuit of pleasure, and 405 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: at a time when like you know, pleasure was completely 406 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: curtailed in the church, was like you can't do anything. 407 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: And he was like I'm being this libertine and I'm celebritying, 408 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: Like well, absolutely, and we are like kind of like 409 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: always taught that like women in that time, like we're 410 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: not like going after like did not enjoy sex and like, 411 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: I mean yes, a lot of them, like we're getting 412 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 1: raped on a lot of them, Like we're not enjoying 413 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: they're like marriages at fourteen. Absolutely, but I think there 414 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: was like a set of like society women, which makes sense. 415 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: I feel like it was like women who had more 416 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: money to like pursue their pleasure and like live with 417 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: their fathers and not be married off at thirteen, that 418 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: they could be like wait, I like do want to fuck? 419 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: And like they were more seeing Casanova as like someone 420 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: they could explore their sexuality with before being married off 421 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: to say a pork owner or something. This the idea 422 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: of having sex not in marriage is like the fact 423 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: that it's so like normalized here in this book is 424 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: actually quite revolutionary. And I also think to your point 425 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: I think that you were alluding to is that, yes, 426 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: he describes women physically, and you might be like, that's 427 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: so offensive that he's calling this woman's hand too large 428 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: and fleshing, But it's like he actually like tells women's stories. Sorry, 429 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: women's stories matter, and like all the women in this book, 430 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: like he's telling you like where they're from, like what 431 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: their conflicts are, like, what their desires are, where they're 432 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: going to go. Now he's giving a lot of interiority 433 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: to like all of these women characters exactly. He's not 434 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: being like, oh, like this bittye and like you can 435 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: also tell like I think you know, this goes back 436 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: to the mother leaving the grandmother. He is like, I 437 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: think much more like besides like his butler, like he's 438 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: kind of like playing tricks with other guys. But I 439 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: feel like he does prefer the company. I think he 440 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: finds them more complicated, yeah, more passionate. He prefers the 441 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: company of hanging out with women, Like he's always like 442 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: literally chilling with three sisters. He's actually like such, he's 443 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: kind of a male lesbian in this way. Yes, he's 444 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: been so yeah, no, it is a little like his 445 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: vibe could be a little like poly guy with like 446 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: like well, me and Tracy were together, but then Tracy 447 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: started dating Sarah and sometimes and play. Yeah. Yeah, no, 448 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: he's very like bartender top. Yes, absolutely bun vibes. But 449 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: I think obviously this book is like a huge step 450 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: forward for progressivism and for yeah, Venetian women's sexuality of 451 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: the time. Yeah. Now, Stephen Jocoma Casanova, I would like 452 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: some clarity on a part of this book that I 453 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: was a little because there are so many sisters. Yeah, 454 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: I did get a little confused. This is where I 455 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: was like, yes, you're a feminist, but also like you're 456 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: a little bit like sketchy angry guy. He gets like 457 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: tricked by a woman and then gets like really angry 458 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: at her and is like hiding in so many sheds 459 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: to like do something to her. Well, is this the 460 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: woman who accuses him of like being a miser at 461 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: like the faroh that kind of poker game Noor is playing. 462 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: And then she's like, oh, no, you never spend all 463 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: your winnings, like if you did, you would buy some gloves. 464 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: And then he's just like so angry that she called 465 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: him out because he knows it's so true that he 466 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: doesn't buy gloves, and because if you don't have gloves, 467 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: then you're never opening the door of a carriage. And 468 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: everyone's always seen that. He's like opening the door of 469 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: a carriage bear handed, which is like so embarrassing, and 470 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: he's like, I actually need to be spending my lira 471 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: and duckets well because then it's like your hands are 472 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: getting so rough with like the carriage doors, so it's 473 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: like you're not actually noble. And he's showing himself and 474 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: he's like and then I was scheming, But then he 475 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: also falls in love with her. Story it's not that 476 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: story though it's earlier in the book when it's and 477 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: maybe it is Bettina like like washing girl. Oh well, 478 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: because she actually like has this crush on this other guy. 479 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: There's always everyone's always like boarding someone in their many 480 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: rooms now and they're like, oh, I also like how 481 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: to crush on Silvio, and like she has a crush 482 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: on Silvio. And then she does her whole like fake 483 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,479 Speaker 1: hysteria thing where she's having like convulsions yes, and then 484 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: he's being like, you're not actually sick and he's like 485 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: not this Moonschausen's bitch, like I gotta get out of 486 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: padua Um and he I feel like he is like 487 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: so mad and scheming. But he's also eleven at that time. Okay, 488 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: that makes more sense. He's being like a like angry 489 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: eleven year old being like what you like, you have 490 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: a crush on Silvio? Like you just washed my legs? Okay, 491 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: so we need to talk about about She meets say Man. 492 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 1: This is after he gets expelled from Venezia. He's on 493 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: his way to Constantinople and there's this insanely gay drama 494 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: with the passport that's literally I was like, this is 495 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: so gay. Where he's like he loses this passport, got 496 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: my passport And they're like and he's like, no, I 497 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: forgot it. But that happens after they're like together, but 498 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: he hasn't gone to content. He's still trying to get 499 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: to Constantinople. But he's in some other like Italian town, 500 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: like trying to get a ship or something. And he 501 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: meets this guy named like Bolognia or something. Yeah, and 502 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: and they hang out and he's like under and this 503 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: is where it gets like queer, because he's like I 504 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: can just tell, like Bologno, he's not being like your 505 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: woman to shame. He's being like I can tell, like 506 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: there's something like a little bit fam and trajans about 507 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: you and like I want to tap it. And it 508 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,479 Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is just a castrado. And then 509 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: he's so specific because he's just like, no, this castrado 510 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: like has tits. But he's like, I know the difference 511 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: between the deformed breast of a castrado and that of 512 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: a woman, Yes, of a soft, soft breast. He's basically 513 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: calling out like I know the difference between like why 514 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: the lesbian in boobs and like a woman who's dressing 515 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: as a man to like pass in society for a 516 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: certain reasonbit is straight, no, more like because costrado is 517 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: when they cut the balls off a young boy, a 518 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: young boy, and then they liked, I think, like estrogen 519 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: production probably ramps up in some way and so you 520 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: do grow like little tips. Okay, So it's basically kind 521 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: of like you know, castrado is like kind of the 522 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: original like transkirun. Yeah, and you're literally like getting like 523 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: bottom surgery at like age fourteen or whatever, so you 524 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: can stay as a singer in the in the chorus, 525 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: oh okay, in the opera that's yeah, so castrato meaning 526 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: the castra and then you keep your soprano voice and 527 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: so okay. So constrado is supposed to be basically like 528 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: a young boy and what we might call like a 529 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: trends girl now today, like someone who had their balls 530 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: cut off and wants to sing opera, who wants to 531 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: sing opera And he's like, I think this is a woman, 532 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: and like everyone else is like no, no, no, it's 533 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: a castrato. Like he's been inspected and he's like inspected 534 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: by who, and like inspected by the bishop? Well, I 535 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: would I would like to inspect the Castrato myself, because 536 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: like I know that these like are actually real tits 537 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: and not just like kind of like post bottom surgery 538 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: estrogen tits that like this tea girl has. But then 539 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: he also is just like I think he's so beautiful 540 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 1: and I like wanted to make love to him as 541 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: a woman, and is being so like affirming right of Castrato. 542 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: He'd be like, yeah, I'm down to sleep with this 543 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: trans girl, right and being just like I'm actually so 544 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: queer now that I'm in my Constantinople period, Like I'm queer, 545 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: I mean my Constantinople era and I'm like so queer 546 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: and like whatever I've left just like the Catholic society behind. Um. 547 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: So then he's just like I need to be this 548 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: like a fab detective and like does sleep with him. 549 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: And it turns out he was right and he was 550 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: a bio female, bio female and like wasn't actually being 551 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: like I mean, is being likeds in a certain way, 552 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: but also was doing it more in a way because 553 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: I feel like there were so many like girls of 554 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: that time who like did like transition to mail because 555 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: they wanted to be and like we're like passing in 556 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: the Union General Army. This is the thing is it's 557 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: like the past, it was so easy to like do anything, 558 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: and like everyone is always just putting on a hat 559 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: and then everyone's like, it's a man. It's Larry, She's 560 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: the man. That movie with Amanda Binds, and so many 561 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: times in the movie the Heath Ledger movie where it's 562 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: just like that girl who's trying to be such a 563 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: like feminist, it's always just putting on like one mustache 564 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: and glasses and like entering into court and and then 565 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: like takes off like her mustache and everyone's like what what. 566 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: And it's also it's also so yental, where like she 567 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: just again just puts on a hat and everyone's just 568 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: like who is this boy? Like? And also at this time, 569 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: you could literally just because there's no like photos or Internet, 570 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: you could go to any town just like no one 571 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: knows you, no one knows you can just be like 572 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: I am the Count of Duncula and everyone would just 573 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: be like, okay, okay, sure, you're like count. Even well, 574 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: even though the movie Casanova is just like changing his 575 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: wig and being like I am like the mayor of 576 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: Padua and everyone's like okay, yeah, well, I was gonna say, 577 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: though the non castrado is like she was her father 578 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: made her like dress as a man, so she didn't 579 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: have to become a whore. Everyone is because otherwise you 580 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: would be a sex. Leave and you absolutely must move 581 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: to Traverse. But then it turns out that like her 582 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: father died or something, so she could go back to 583 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: like Palermo and like not be a whore, but like 584 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: she has to leave this town where like she's only 585 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: known as a castrado. Oh right, you just have to 586 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: fucking leave town. Pack up. So but then before she leaves, 587 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: her father gives her a small device that may fool examiners, 588 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: and it's a dildo, and I'm just like, wait, so what, 589 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: like Bishop is just like examining you and seen this 590 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: seventeenth century strap on and being just like yep, yep, 591 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: I mean I'm sure so Casanova. This is after they've 592 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: like had, you know, made voluptuous love and they're in 593 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: some drawing room who knows where, and he's like and 594 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: then she shows me her dildo and like the rubber 595 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: glue that she uses to attach with it, and it's like, 596 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: you know, is the most like crazy assidea actors glue, 597 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: crowned horse glue. She probably had like such a like 598 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: now bespoke like leather harness. Yeah, I mean I would 599 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: love to see like at what like throwback party, like 600 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: whatever queer sex party, someone is doing something like awesome 601 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: wooden horse leather strap on player. I mean, that's very 602 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: the sex museum. Have you ever been in like Flat Iron? No, 603 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: I haven't. I have. It's a very vintage Doldo over there. Yeah, 604 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: I mean, and probably would be very painful, but it's 605 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: being a little more like twenties not seventeen fifteen. I 606 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: was just I was shocked that like that technology existed 607 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: back then. But I guess also I was shocked too. 608 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: I was more I was like, I wonder what the 609 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: Italian word was that they translated. Here's my question for you. So, yes, 610 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: they're lounging so many Venetian sheets. Do you think she 611 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: fucked him with the Doldo oh with her strap? Yeah? Yeah, 612 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 1: I mean he's such a an adventurer. I can't imagine 613 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: after she like put it on like this. But the 614 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: way that he talks about all the women in this 615 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: book like a you know, I think obviously it's the 616 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: time women are incredibly sheltered, and so they're all just 617 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: being so so like nervous and submissive and like and 618 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: like he's taking everyone's virginity. It just doesn't seem like 619 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: she would be so like aggressive and domineering that she 620 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: would even think to do that. She's already wearing it, 621 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: but she's wearing it as a disguise, not as like 622 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: a sexual empowerment tool, Like she's not being like this 623 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: is erotic. I guess maybe it's a little more like 624 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: she walked kind of around a bedroom with it and 625 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: it was kind of like fraudage like he was or 626 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: she did a little performance, yeah, like you know, strut 627 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: for me, not like he bent over and then she 628 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: like truly pegged him. But I think there was just 629 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 1: you know a little bit of maybe a role play, 630 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: and then of course the inquisition probably like came and 631 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: like they were like, we have to hud. I just 632 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: I didn't get that vibe from her. She seemed incredibly timid. 633 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: I feel like, you don't the first time you have sex, 634 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 1: you don't like to strap on playing, you know. I agree. 635 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: I guess I was just like, I don't know, he 636 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: included it, so definitely you know, made a memory. I guess. 637 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: Like my question to you as if you like saw 638 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 1: this gorgeous castrado and you were just like, no, that's 639 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: a chick. I know, that's a fucking hot chick under there. 640 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: Would you be so like and then you and like 641 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: and you found out and it actually was a nit 642 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: check and she had a dick and it was this 643 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 1: trans girl. Would you be like, whoa dude? Like get 644 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 1: out of my bed? Or would you be like, okay, 645 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: I'm going to fuck you anyway we were already in bed, 646 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: I would continue on. Yeah, Yeah, that's fucking open as 647 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: hell of you. Yeah, okay. Well I asked the same 648 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: question to you if it was like, I mean, you've 649 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: already you know, like hooked up with a chick, because 650 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm such an old source, So you would continue on 651 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: with just like it with a trans guy. Oh, with 652 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: a trans guy. Yeah, I mean I'm already there. I 653 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: mean I guess it's like I would have had to 654 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: have already been like thinking I was going to be 655 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: the top, I guess, and that's like you were like, 656 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to be the top. This is a twink. 657 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: So in that sense, then yeah, I don't think it 658 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 1: would be that pick if it de Yeah, I'm super progressive. Yeah, 659 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: I'm also super progressive. But I do wonder, like then 660 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: if I found it before we were in bed. But 661 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: I also think that I am like Cassanova, and I 662 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: am such a biodetective and I don't think I think 663 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: that I would be like right, I don't think I 664 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: would be fooled. I think you would know before, which 665 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't stop you, but I think you would maybe dope before. Okay, 666 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: I want to talk about just back to Venetian culture 667 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: for a second. When he talks about the concept of 668 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: the magazine no magazine, he was like, there were these 669 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: public houses called magazine those and there were seventy two 670 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: of them Membanese in every district of Venice, and they 671 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,919 Speaker 1: would be open all night. They would be like full 672 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 1: of just like common rooms and like would just like 673 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: kind of hang out spaces and they would sort of 674 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: like wine all night, and like any would go there, 675 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: and like usually like the nobleman would not be there, 676 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 1: but like you could find like kind of a wide 677 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 1: cross section of society in there, and like if it's 678 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: four in the morning and you're like, fuck, where are 679 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,240 Speaker 1: we going to go hang out. You and your squad 680 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 1: could literally go there. There'd be some like random room 681 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: with like chairs. We could just go go sit there 682 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 1: and like chill and I love that. Can we get 683 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,919 Speaker 1: that back? It's like a place that is I guess 684 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,479 Speaker 1: I'm like describing also the most early two thousands club 685 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: literally bed. I'm just like, where's a place with just 686 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 1: like bank ats and huge velvet couch. You have literally 687 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 1: no public spaces anymore, and capitalism has privatized every facking 688 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 1: inch of our and if we created this like massive. 689 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,760 Speaker 1: It's also when they describe that, I'm literally just imagining 690 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: the Jane Hotel waits. So I feel like it was 691 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: a little bit more like spartan than the Jane Hotel 692 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: room was so like so many fabrics, I'm picturing a 693 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: little bit more just like a wooden bench, like in 694 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: a random room. This is what happens when you watch 695 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 1: the movie because now I'm so influenced by all the 696 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:44,720 Speaker 1: fabrics with fabrics. There's so much fabrics and like Oliver Plot, 697 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: who plays this like lard purveyor from Padulas, like such 698 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:54,479 Speaker 1: a like plump little spoiled king, who's like so many 699 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: fat jokes in it. Okay in Venetian culture. Yeah, this, 700 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: I want to talk about this trap that he does 701 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: where they give people organ meats so they'll like fart. Yeah, 702 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: and it was like such a ridiculous ruse and we 703 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 1: just couldn't get enough of it. I mean, farting has 704 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: been funny forever forever, It's always been funny. It's always 705 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: been funny. You know, I think it's gross, but at 706 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 1: the same time, like, yeah, I can imagine. You know. 707 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 1: It's the contrast of you know, the nobleman, the patrician, 708 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: this very uptight, hoity toity aristocracy and having to see 709 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: them be confronted with the bodily functions, which I think 710 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,879 Speaker 1: what this book did again do well is it has 711 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 1: the in between of that culture that isn't like fully 712 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,760 Speaker 1: castle and like fully like peasant. We're all like turning 713 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: a big witch's brew. It's just kind of like I guess, yeah, 714 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: the middle yeppie class of like going to magazinos and 715 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 1: drinking wine. So the book ends and he like finds 716 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 1: this other lover who, like he says that they were 717 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: like together forever? Am I wrong? What's her name? Francesca right, 718 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: which is also the name of the girl in the movie. 719 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: I just feel like that because I was also reading 720 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: by the Missing like, oh, actually the greatest love of 721 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 1: his life was Henriette, was like some French girl that 722 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: he like later met. I feel like there's a lot 723 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: more to the story. And he's also a bit of 724 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: a fabulous so like I'm not quite sure what a 725 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: country this is. It's kind of just like it wraps 726 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: up on a neat note. He also is a love 727 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 1: addict and every time he meets someone he was like, 728 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,439 Speaker 1: I was in love with her, Yes, I mean that's 729 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: also how one spoke. Then yeah, and then like I 730 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: think even a fleeting crush was just love, Like a 731 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: crush is love, and well, because it wasn't so now 732 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: where it's like so TikTok work. They didn't have the 733 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:41,320 Speaker 1: phrase the talking stage. That's the talking stage. I just 734 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: there's like that recent viral video of a girl being like, 735 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 1: here's the thing about the talking stage, and she just 736 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: never makes a point, and it's like forty five seconds 737 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: of her sane Like basically, the internet is ridiculous. I mean, 738 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 1: maybe it is more about like bringing back love as 739 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: casual and we've put such a soulmate, you know, finding 740 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: the one, and if you don't find the one, it's 741 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: this and it's like, you know, we need to take 742 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: away you know when you break up, it is not 743 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: a failure, no, and it's not the end of your life, 744 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: and it's love can be for a night, love can 745 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: be for a week, that can still be loved, and 746 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 1: you have room in your heart for more love. That 747 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: love is endless and please download our app. Hashtag is 748 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: really Polly this episode. Okay. Also the same thing in 749 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,240 Speaker 1: this book is how much like mercury is it? People 750 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: use mercury as like a cure and it's actually just 751 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: so toxic and poisonous. And then he does that crazy 752 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: trick where he's like a doctor, yeah, where he like 753 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 1: well a where he like saves that guy's life, but 754 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 1: be where he like mixes the wine he like right 755 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,959 Speaker 1: with mercury. No, he dilutes mercury with bismuth and lead. 756 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: And then he's like he's like, oh it and like 757 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,280 Speaker 1: then you can go sell it at like the apothec Harry, 758 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: and you'll sell it back to them and like basically 759 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: make a profit even though you've like retained some of 760 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: your original mercury. He's just being like a full like 761 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 1: scam artist. No, it's so amazing because he's like, Okay, 762 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: I'm a scam artist. I'm like profiting off of like 763 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: mercury laid in wine. Then I'm going to be a 764 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 1: clerical assistant. And then like at one point he does 765 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: like play the violin aka the fiddle, and he's like, oh, 766 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: I know it's not respected, but like he basically like 767 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: was such a like gondolier restaurant, like violin player on 768 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: the gondola. And this is also after he just buys 769 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: an officer's uniform and then it is like just says 770 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:32,879 Speaker 1: he's an officer. And then now he's like, yeah, I'm 771 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 1: in the army because I just like bought a uniform 772 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: and they're always just like, oh, what like regiment are 773 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,359 Speaker 1: you in? And he's just like that's none of your business. Sorry, 774 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: that's private naval information. But he's literally like he's like 775 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 1: cutting wine with fentanyl and like selling mercury bactro an 776 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 1: apothecist and it's like you absolute scam freelancer. I'm says 777 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: it reminds me of this actually, like good like Doc 778 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 1: on Netflix was all the trash on there. You know, 779 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: I'm talking about about this like guy who got into 780 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 1: the like crazy like red wine like Psalm World, and 781 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 1: he would like buy bottles like copy their labels have 782 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: like such an insane counterfeiting thing, and then just like 783 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: would refill the bottles like with mixes of like different 784 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,280 Speaker 1: wine and then resell them at auction for eighty thousand. 785 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 1: I remember hearing like an article about this, and yeah, 786 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: he was like basically a wine forger, which is crazy, 787 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: but Casanova, I mean that was just one of his jobs, right, 788 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: I mean, but that was this is more like a 789 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: parlor trick. And then he managed to like sell the 790 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: secret to some guy for like five hundred ducats and 791 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: then the guy was just like, wait a minute, this 792 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 1: isn't mercury. This is just a loodie mercury with bismuth. 793 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,840 Speaker 1: And he was like, yeah, well you wanted my secret 794 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 1: and now you have a bitch pay up. And then 795 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 1: he was like and then we remained the best of friends. 796 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: Just another good Venetian scoundrel, like I was. I was 797 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 1: just like, ah, like the restaurants that they were going to, 798 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 1: you know, it really just I want to spend that 799 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: at Villain n AGRONI yeah, I know, He's always like, okay, 800 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 1: so we were posted up at villain AGRONI yeah, because 801 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,800 Speaker 1: to make money. I mean, I guess that's why he 802 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 1: was kind of the original and just like all you need, 803 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 1: you just need a letter of recommendation, and all of 804 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: a sudden you're just like living a life of all. 805 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,840 Speaker 1: Oh god, I owed sixteen thousand Liro to like this person. 806 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 1: But then like you just find a way to like 807 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 1: pay off your debts in another ridiculous manner. Also the 808 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 1: moment when they're on he saw some like some doc 809 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: with like some gentleman, and the gentleman pulls out a 810 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: spyglass to like see an incoming ship, and it's like, 811 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 1: my daughter's arriving, just like clocking your daughters on a 812 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: ship via spyglass. I missed those days. I literally I'm 813 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: going to go to the Chelsea Piers. I'm gonna pull 814 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,800 Speaker 1: out a spy class. I want to be sitting just 815 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,320 Speaker 1: like in Dimes Square, like looking just like down canal 816 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 1: with a spyglass and being like, is that Felicia a petticoat? 817 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, my excitement is showing Felicia is not 818 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 1: with her sister where her sister have gone, and then 819 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: like you zoom in on like one nine, you're like, oh, 820 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 1: I see Constantina is with the suitor noted right, that 821 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 1: take out my quill, Like you knows. The movie starts 822 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,760 Speaker 1: out like it shows him like heat writing his memoirs, 823 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: and he has so many used feather quill surrounding him. 824 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: It's like a desk piled with feathers. Segmentine knows, how 825 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,839 Speaker 1: does she live? What does she eat? Thou? What does 826 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 1: she wear? Well? He wears wigs, big heavy wig wears 827 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 1: wigs for sure, and like his wigs are definitely like 828 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,800 Speaker 1: sometimes like a skew you because he's just like running 829 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,800 Speaker 1: from fucking Yeah, he's always leaping out of a maiden's 830 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: bedroom and into a gondola an a skew wig, probably 831 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 1: like four layers of like intensely embroidered brocade blazers and 832 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 1: wide definitely wearing like the shirt that Jerry wears in Seinfeldt, 833 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: like the pirate shirt, but of course an exposed leg 834 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: in a beautiful stocking. Um masculinity and then I think, um, 835 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 1: just a gorgeous leather low for more of a monk strap. 836 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 1: I guess probably like a one monk strap, yeah, I 837 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 1: don't think he's so three straps. I think he's like 838 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: a classic single monk is a scam artist in this way, 839 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 1: so he's always in depth, like he's not going to 840 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 1: like the finest Venetian shoemaker. No, he'll go to the tailor. 841 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 1: He's kind of more like you and me vibes, or 842 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 1: he is going to like the tailor that's also like whatever, 843 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 1: like Clundromat. Yeah, and it's like not having so his 844 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 1: savo row. He's just like going to the local pit 845 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 1: that's behind the Magazino and just being like, wait, can 846 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 1: you fix this monkstrap? Like it got torn when I 847 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: was like running through a hedge maze, like on a palazzo. 848 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 1: You and me are always like trying on pants and 849 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 1: just like the full general room of a dry cleaner, 850 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 1: being like can you make them like okay, um hemmed 851 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: half an inch and take them in a tiny bit 852 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,320 Speaker 1: at the bottom or like a little bit of a taper. 853 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 1: I think yeah. I think he has also just like 854 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 1: a lot of yeah big as a Venetian linen shirts 855 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,360 Speaker 1: that are like puffy and open, and you think those 856 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,320 Speaker 1: are his um around the house, around the house, and 857 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: like walking to market like linen shirt, white linen shirt, 858 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:58,399 Speaker 1: talked into black pants sometimes a white linen pant for sure. 859 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 1: And then I think today, as we discussed, he would 860 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: be way more like leather cord necklace. I mean, I 861 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: think he would be like leather vest. Okay, I don't 862 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 1: think he's that full magician. I think that eats more 863 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 1: just like leather cord necklace and like you know, really 864 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 1: soft hea like leather cuff, like spotty jeans. Yeah, buff 865 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 1: like you know, of a variety of hats, like just 866 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,399 Speaker 1: kind of a bit of a burner, but like elevated burner. Yeah, 867 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 1: I see that. He also, I mean there is something 868 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,400 Speaker 1: about him that is I guess that is like pickup artist. 869 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 1: So that's where I'm getting like Fedora a little bit 870 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,359 Speaker 1: really yeah, and it is Meladian. That's like the whole 871 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: thing about pickup artist is they always like wear something 872 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 1: like ridiculous. So like a woman talks to them, Okay, 873 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 1: what does she eat? What does she eat? Darling? I 874 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,800 Speaker 1: mean I saw I cheated when you know, in the beginning, 875 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 1: when we when we started. I mean it's also just 876 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 1: like the most like seventeen hundreds obviously, it's just like 877 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 1: his favorite food is like this Spanish meat soup and 878 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,839 Speaker 1: you're like, of course, that's just like a brown kind 879 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:18,320 Speaker 1: of dredgy rich soup of meats and charizo, and I 880 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 1: think like beans, okay, it likes a little spice. Yeah, 881 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,800 Speaker 1: I think a little bit of spice. I think a richness. 882 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,320 Speaker 1: You know, he's a reservation whore. He's a restaurant girl, 883 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,479 Speaker 1: like big meat dishes. Because he also like there scenes 884 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 1: where he's just like I went to the twenty the 885 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 1: Inn and I dined alone, and like he's very like 886 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,320 Speaker 1: not afraid to dine alone, doesn't and doesn't need his 887 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 1: dining out alone. Armor, doesn't Tanita's quill. Yeah, Like he 888 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 1: has a confident Chica and will just like enjoy a 889 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: meal by himself, which I think is really fab. There's 890 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,240 Speaker 1: also a point in this book that like modern Chica, 891 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,879 Speaker 1: like he goes on diets. That is what I mentioned 892 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 1: in like what were He's like, well, and then I 893 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 1: did go on a two month diet to like get 894 00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,320 Speaker 1: myself better because he was like had some deep seventeen 895 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,320 Speaker 1: hundred sickness and that I feel probably was like just 896 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 1: like a vegetable soup. Well, yeah, because every time he 897 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 1: gets an STD like when he gets an STD from 898 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 1: that handsome Greek woman and he's like and he's like, 899 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 1: she cursed me and I had to observe a very 900 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 1: strict diet and rest for two weeks until I could 901 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 1: be gone of the illness from which she had afflicted me. Yeah, 902 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 1: I wonder if it's just like, yeah, is it like 903 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,760 Speaker 1: high and fish? Is it like no dairy? It's probably 904 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 1: like yeah, no dairy. Um. You know, I don't think 905 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 1: is I bet it was like a lot foul you know, 906 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,440 Speaker 1: maybe like giz it like or it was like have 907 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: chicken feet soup and carrots or something. It was probably 908 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 1: like a drink of vinegar, a lot of vinegar washes. Yeah, yeah, 909 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,399 Speaker 1: that would have helped. But then also like mercury. Yeah 910 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,359 Speaker 1: then mercury. Yeah, it's like steady diet of mercury. They're 911 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,800 Speaker 1: like no more Madeira wine, just a shot of mercury 912 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 1: every morning, okay, And how does she live? It's like 913 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 1: definitely very messy and like waking up and there's like 914 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,800 Speaker 1: so many cigarillos and like yeah, spilled wine on a platter, 915 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 1: so many like draw like the wine was probably thick 916 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 1: back then in a way. Yeah, crusty wine, and he's 917 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 1: a little bit like wine stain on the settee and 918 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,319 Speaker 1: then like turning the cushion over, I mean like roops. Yeah, 919 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 1: I feel like there's a bath. He seems very bath 920 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,879 Speaker 1: to me because he is like always fucking yeah yeah, 921 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,840 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of bathing that needs to be 922 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 1: done to wash the love off your body. Yeah. I 923 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 1: think it is like piles of papers and piles of 924 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 1: feather quills. Like I think he's like, oh, I have 925 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,759 Speaker 1: an idea, takes feather quill, writes it, leaves it there. 926 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,760 Speaker 1: It's kind of has this like artsy piles of books, 927 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,320 Speaker 1: piles of books, and it's like again, there's piles of fabric, candles, 928 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,839 Speaker 1: lots of just like wax stains on the dressers from 929 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,280 Speaker 1: like all the candles burning. With his late night diary 930 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 1: writing it's gonna go ahead and be high bed. It 931 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,719 Speaker 1: is all day. If room Raiders came in there with 932 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 1: the black light, I mean it would be covert all 933 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,800 Speaker 1: of that pussy juice. But I also feel like he 934 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,320 Speaker 1: is being a little shamed and being like doing his 935 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 1: making love like elsewhere at his own I'm sure he 936 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,640 Speaker 1: is having like three sisters over at his own spot, 937 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 1: but like a lot of it does happen like in 938 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,839 Speaker 1: a side room, and then he's like leaving and putting 939 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 1: his bridges back on pretty quickly. It's always these like 940 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 1: doors that are locking from the inside. I guess that's 941 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,360 Speaker 1: all doors, but everything you know, I know, he's like, 942 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,239 Speaker 1: my butler for the day showed me that the lock 943 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,799 Speaker 1: locked from the inside. Yeah, And you're like, oh, well, 944 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 1: because was it so evil back at the time. And 945 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 1: someone always had a big key and they were like 946 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 1: locking you in and being like you can come out 947 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 1: when I say, yeah, everything was the prison and then 948 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 1: like someone is coming and raping you're with their big key. 949 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 1: Who are you in the book? Okay? So I realized 950 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:12,240 Speaker 1: who I am? I am? Are you Christine the peasant 951 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:16,360 Speaker 1: girl who doesn't know how to eat oysters? Yes, the 952 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,319 Speaker 1: peasant girl whom he's like, she's so hot. And then 953 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, I actually can't read or write. He's like, well, 954 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 1: you have to learn, because I'm not going to be 955 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: going out with you in Venice if you can't read 956 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 1: or write. Right. She's like, I've never been to the 957 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,279 Speaker 1: theater before, and it's so me buying your family, your 958 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 1: first DVD player, you musty films, and he teaches her 959 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 1: how to eat oysters and truffles me at move with 960 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 1: your parents. Hold the oyster with your thumb and index finger. 961 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 1: Now just slip like you've never slept before Boston's premiere 962 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 1: steakhouse Move. I feel like I'm his friend who's like 963 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,200 Speaker 1: guiding into bed with him at boarding school and being like, wait, 964 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,440 Speaker 1: like are we hooking out? Yeah? But yeah we're too 965 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 1: like crazy guys, right, And then you're like, yeah, huh no, 966 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,800 Speaker 1: sisters to fuck tonight? Why don't we just it's a 967 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 1: cool Venetian night, isn't it. Yeah? My dressing gown is 968 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 1: threadbare and he's like, okay, well why not? And then 969 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,320 Speaker 1: like you do kind of hook up. We kind of 970 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:27,520 Speaker 1: are like rubbing and cuddling maybe yeah, And like excitement 971 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 1: is shown, for sure, absolutely excitement is shown, but we 972 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,920 Speaker 1: don't actually fully achieve the temple that he is, Like 973 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 1: I got near the birth of her temple but did 974 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,360 Speaker 1: not enter the estuary. Wait, now I'm thank of this 975 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 1: part where he actually is being so sketchy and pickup artist, 976 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,800 Speaker 1: where he says to one of the sisters, like you 977 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 1: actually have to sleep naked to show that you trust 978 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,560 Speaker 1: me to not do anything to you. Yeah. He's like, 979 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,359 Speaker 1: if you really trusted me, you would sleep in the nude, right, 980 00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:01,720 Speaker 1: And she's like, oh okay, okay, Ustian Mark. Yeah, everyone's 981 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,920 Speaker 1: just like no, if you really trusted me with my 982 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 1: like absolutely like papal virginity, you would fully penetrate me 983 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:15,120 Speaker 1: and my sister simultaneously without looking. That's real trust. And 984 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 1: then it is sad and like you are like you 985 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 1: guys have this amazing night where it's just like you 986 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,239 Speaker 1: are kind of like fraudage. But then the next day 987 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,320 Speaker 1: he's kind of been like, yeah, okay, I fucked sisters, 988 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,600 Speaker 1: and you're like, huh, totally. I'm not in the I 989 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,759 Speaker 1: don't know. I give this book like four hundred out 990 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,280 Speaker 1: of five hundred lira won in a game of faro 991 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,279 Speaker 1: at a magazino. I like, this book was hilarious. This 992 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:43,560 Speaker 1: was so funny. I give it four hundred mercurys soaked 993 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:48,319 Speaker 1: like wine bottles out of five hundred. Like, I think 994 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 1: this is something we can come back to, like not 995 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 1: the Venetian period, but like next year, maybe we can 996 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,320 Speaker 1: do another part of this. Yeah, I totally agree. I 997 00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 1: think it's really interesting. I think it's also it is 998 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:03,880 Speaker 1: a fascinating cultural document, and it's such a detailed account 999 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:08,480 Speaker 1: of society in eighteenth century Italy, spotted actually as the 1000 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,360 Speaker 1: account to describe what eighteenth century Italy was. Like, you know, 1001 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,200 Speaker 1: he talks about social prejudices. I mean, like, you know, 1002 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,239 Speaker 1: the guy who has to change his name so he 1003 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,320 Speaker 1: can be a respected mathematician because like people would have 1004 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,720 Speaker 1: just thought he was such a like disgusting farmer peasant 1005 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,040 Speaker 1: if his name wasn't like Fabrizi or whatever. He's just like, 1006 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,759 Speaker 1: you know, he's making fun of society and all of 1007 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 1: the air that people felt like they needed to put on. 1008 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,240 Speaker 1: Like you really learned a lot about what people valued 1009 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 1: at that time. We're lacked back then, it really. I 1010 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:41,799 Speaker 1: was like, I don't think my ancestors were Adam Magazino 1011 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:49,840 Speaker 1: with Giacomo. Yeah, I'm so curious about my German, Ukrainian, Jewish, Russian, 1012 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:55,080 Speaker 1: British ancestors. I guess they were in Sicily, so they 1013 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,680 Speaker 1: definitely weren't infinis. But I was like, I don't know, yeah, 1014 00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,480 Speaker 1: like maybe they were at like a play, but I 1015 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,880 Speaker 1: think they were probably being a little more like farm 1016 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 1: and being more a country girl, and they've they've definitely 1017 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,840 Speaker 1: never heard of truffles yet they were not like truffles 1018 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,319 Speaker 1: and like. But I'm sure like your great great great 1019 00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,840 Speaker 1: great great great great grandmother was like horny af for 1020 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 1: like her neighbor, definitely the fam horny no cap. 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