Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Unplugged, brought to you
Speaker 1: by DraftKings. The Phoenix Suns Hath fired coach Bud one
Speaker 1: and done. Thirty six and forty six was his record
Speaker 1: one season, but this has kind of been a common
Speaker 1: thing since Matt Ishbia has taken over the Phoenix Suns.
Speaker 1: He's had three coaches and his three years here, starting
Speaker 1: with Money Williams forty five and thirty seven. The year
Speaker 1: before that he won Coach of the Year and they
Speaker 1: went to the finals. He was fired. Frank Vogel fell
Speaker 1: victim after that, forty nine and thirty three. After one
Speaker 1: season he was fired, and now Bud. Probably the only
Speaker 1: one on this list that deserves to be fired is
Speaker 1: thirty six and forty seven, and he's out. Obviously, we
Speaker 1: know that the Phoenix Suns went to the finals in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. CP three was in the mix for
Speaker 1: three years and I think everyone thought this was a
Speaker 1: very promising situation for them. Isba came on board in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, fired Money Williams, fired Big Vogel, and
Speaker 1: now fired Bud. The news has came out this morning
Speaker 1: that the Sons will work with Kevin Durant on a
Speaker 1: new trade destination. And I think that probably comes out
Speaker 1: a little bit out of left field, because let's back
Speaker 1: up a little bit. Bradley Beal, who I'm a big
Speaker 1: fan of, Dad, Mark Bartlestein.
Speaker 2: Yeah, his agent, So Beal's agent is Mark Bartelstein.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then Mark Bartlestein's son, Josh, is the CEO of.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, So there was some inside you guys heard that.
Speaker 1: So Marcus Beal's agent, Mark's son is the CEO of
Speaker 1: the Sons, So there was some insider trading going on
Speaker 1: with that team, and we all know that. Obviously, the
Speaker 1: Beial experiment has not worked out. The team has been bad.
Speaker 1: He hasn't been very good. I think he's averaged seventeen
Speaker 1: and four over his two years with the Sons, played
Speaker 1: no more than fifty three games each season, so he's
Speaker 1: damn near making a million dollars a game. And to
Speaker 1: his credit, he activated his no trade clause with this team.
Speaker 1: So I think that clogged up the pop pipeline at
Speaker 1: the trade deadline. And since that was clogged up, they
Speaker 1: threw Kevin's name in there at a left field and obviously,
Speaker 1: as it should, it kind of raised Katie's eyebrows, and
Speaker 1: now they're on the verge of losing. Obviously Kevin Durant
Speaker 1: this offseason. Another thing to keep in mind, Brad, Jimmy
Speaker 1: Butler was very adamant about wanting to become a Phoenix
Speaker 1: son and the one person that had from the Sun's
Speaker 1: side that had to be in that trade was Beal,
Speaker 1: and Bill exercised his no trade clause and completely plugged
Speaker 1: up and clogged up and and fucked up that deal. Now,
Speaker 1: if you look at what Jimmy Butler has done with
Speaker 1: Golden State, injected new life into them and has them
Speaker 1: in a playing situation, one just wonders what could have
Speaker 1: happened if Jimmy Butler was able to go to the
Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns. Very interesting and I just think you know,
Speaker 1: of late this last month, I've really been talking about
Speaker 1: new owners coming in and not necessarily understanding that this
Speaker 1: is not fantasy basketball. Although it is your team, you
Speaker 1: are free to do what you want. A lot of
Speaker 1: these new owners are making mistakes. One owner partnership I
Speaker 1: wanted to shout out was the new Boston Celtics situation
Speaker 1: where a group came in paid a lot of money
Speaker 1: for the team, but keeping with Grossbeck in charge of
Speaker 1: things for three years, so almost a transitioning program for
Speaker 1: the new ownership and allowing the old ownership to kind
Speaker 1: of show them the lay of the land, because the
Speaker 1: last thing they want to do is mess up the
Speaker 1: property or the product on the court. And I think
Speaker 1: the Celtics have done it the right way. You look
Speaker 1: at Dallas and see what they've done. You look at
Speaker 1: Phoenix and see what they've done. And we've always talked
Speaker 1: about winning start at the top, So I think the
Speaker 1: NBA needs to kind of really watch out for these
Speaker 1: new owners and making sure they have the right mindset
Speaker 1: and spirit and integrity it takes to run one of
Speaker 1: these franchises, because we've seen two franchises with promising just
Speaker 1: Dallas was in the finals last year and Phoenix in
Speaker 1: the finals four years ago. New owners come in and
Speaker 1: kind of completely tear down what was built before. Now
Speaker 1: we want to welcome in my brother ke On Dueling
Speaker 1: to talk about Phoenix. Kde Welcome to the show man, Bud,
Speaker 1: it is gone. What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 4: Man, I mean, what is that three coaches in the
Speaker 4: last three years something like that?
Speaker 1: A coach per year since Ishbia has been here. Not
Speaker 1: to cut you off. Every year there's been a new
Speaker 1: coach since the owner's been here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, it's obviously you know, something isn't isn't clicking
Speaker 4: right because they're not able to you know, not only
Speaker 4: get their talent, retain their talent. There's no continuity you
Speaker 4: bringing in new programs every year.
Speaker 2: I don't like it. Something is going on in Phoenix
Speaker 2: and it just doesn't feel good to me.
Speaker 1: I always felt like on paper, you see the names
Speaker 1: this team's had, from Chris Paul to obviously Devin Booker's
Speaker 1: been the constant, Kevin Durant the latest. I always felt
Speaker 1: like they were a very top heavy team. I compared
Speaker 1: them to a team that only lifts upper body and
Speaker 1: their legs are super skinny. Because I said, they always
Speaker 1: had super you know, they had the best of the
Speaker 1: best up top, but they never had depth because they
Speaker 1: poured so much money into those guys. One thing too, obviously,
Speaker 1: with the trend of late is being owners kind of
Speaker 1: coming in and being a little bit over their head.
Speaker 1: I don't know a ton about Eshbo obviously, you know,
Speaker 1: walked on to Michigan State. But one thing I do
Speaker 1: know is he hired Bartlestein, who was an assistant GM
Speaker 1: over in Detroit, who is the son of Mike Bartelstein,
Speaker 1: who is Beal's agent. So there's some home cooking. There
Speaker 1: was some home cooking with that deal that brought Field
Speaker 1: to Phoenix. That's pretty much fucked everything up. And this
Speaker 1: is not shitting on Bill. I think Bal's been a
Speaker 1: tremendous player throughout his career, but his time in Phoenix
Speaker 1: he's at like seventeen and four. You know, he was
Speaker 1: a twenty five point plus per game score. He's making
Speaker 1: a ton of money, has it. He's played fifty three
Speaker 1: games in his first two seasons in Phoenix, so pretty
Speaker 1: much he's getting a million dollars per game. We know
Speaker 1: that he was the one that didn't want to move
Speaker 1: his no trade clause, which somehow Phoenix management thought he'd
Speaker 1: be a good idea. Well, shit, if he's not going
Speaker 1: to move his trade clause, let's se we can get
Speaker 1: with Kevin Durant without asking Kevin Durant. And then now
Speaker 1: you see reports this morning that Phoenix is gonna work
Speaker 1: with Kevin Durant to find him a new home. So
Speaker 1: I don't care how good your team is on paper
Speaker 1: in the locker room, KD. We all know that shit
Speaker 1: starts up top and it it's a trickle down effect.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, it's it's unfortunate, you know, because at the
Speaker 4: end of the day, like this hurts Kevin Durant's legacy somewhat,
Speaker 4: right because like, at the end of the day, if KD,
Speaker 4: you know, doesn't doesn't get those championships in Golden State, right,
Speaker 4: which they say he wasn't the leader on even though
Speaker 4: he was the best player on that team. This was
Speaker 4: an opportunity for him to go out band together, have
Speaker 4: his own program, and it's just it's a failed experiment.
Speaker 4: So I don't like it for KD, but I'm glad
Speaker 4: they'll work with them to get him placed in the
Speaker 4: right new situation.
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant was the best player on that team and
Speaker 1: I was there one year. Kevin Durant was the best
Speaker 1: player on that motherfucking team. It was Steph's team, there's
Speaker 1: no question about it. And Draymond was the leader. But
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant was the best player on that team. But
Speaker 1: since we're on the Kevin Durant topic, before we go
Speaker 1: to the next do where do we see him landing.
Speaker 1: Do we see back to Golden State? Do we see
Speaker 1: him to the Knicks? Do we see him to Houston?
Speaker 1: Do we see him do we see you know, we
Speaker 1: know Okac has a ton of things that they can
Speaker 1: throw his way or a team's way to grab him. Ideally,
Speaker 1: this is probably gonna be, hopefully be his last move.
Speaker 1: Katie has maybe two three more years at best under
Speaker 1: his belt. Where do you think a good fit for
Speaker 1: Kevin would be? If this comes to fruition, then he
Speaker 1: ends up leaving Phoenix anywhere.
Speaker 4: Kevin Durant Gos is a good fit in my opinion.
Speaker 4: He's just that good of a player.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not just on the offensive end, but defensively, right.
Speaker 2: KD is KD at the end of the day. He's
Speaker 2: a hooper to the core. He loves this shit. He
Speaker 2: loves it. I think it's the two sleeper locations, right.
Speaker 4: If he doesn't go to like one of the big
Speaker 4: contenders like I would have I would, I would think
Speaker 4: Miami would try and make a move for him and
Speaker 4: get a superstar down here at some point. Pat Riley
Speaker 4: always tries to you know, maneuver and make his moves,
Speaker 4: especially on the cusp of Jimmy kind of go in
Speaker 4: a different direction.
Speaker 2: And then don't be surprised if.
Speaker 4: Like you know, the Wizards get the number one pick,
Speaker 4: they get Cooper Flag. Maybe KD goes back home. That's
Speaker 4: a sleeper that might happen as well. So I'm not
Speaker 4: sure where he'll go. I just want him to go
Speaker 4: somewhere where he can just hoop, you know, and build
Speaker 4: on his legacy.
Speaker 1: I think one thing that's rare about him being one
Speaker 1: of those superstars, and obviously we live in the era
Speaker 1: where superstars move. He seems to be the only superstar
Speaker 1: that moves and fits in seamlessly wherever he goes, because
Speaker 1: like you said, all he does is hoop. He don't
Speaker 1: cause no problems. He goes out there and plays basketball
Speaker 1: every day. He's healthy, and he plays it at a
Speaker 1: very high level on both ends. So wherever he ends
Speaker 1: up landing selfishly, I love to see him make a
Speaker 1: run for Golden State. He's thirty seven, he's got one
Speaker 1: million left on his deal. At fifty four million, you'll
Speaker 1: probably look forward two to three year extension to ride
Speaker 1: off into the sunset. Man, So we wish KD the
Speaker 1: best of luck playoffs are here, Man, best time of
Speaker 1: the year. The Eastern Conference playoffs picture as as such,
Speaker 1: Bucks versus the Pacers, Nicks versus the Pistons. Celtics will
Speaker 1: either play the Magic or the Hawks, and the Calves
Speaker 1: will play whoever becomes the A seed. Obviously they're sitting
Speaker 1: at the top of the East. Let's start with Bucks
Speaker 1: and Pacers real quick. What do you like and don't
Speaker 1: like about this series?
Speaker 4: Well, I don't like that Dame, you know, may not
Speaker 4: be available right I think they had injuries last year.
Speaker 4: The Pacers are a team that beat them and put
Speaker 4: them out of the playoffs last year. They are dangerous,
Speaker 4: you know, especially like with a man down, especially somebody
Speaker 4: is influential and impact with his Dame. We could be
Speaker 4: seeing Yannis, you know, for the last time.
Speaker 1: And don't say that. I don't say that.
Speaker 4: If they get knocked out the first round. I can
Speaker 4: see Yanni's trying to get to a bigger market.
Speaker 1: Definitely not mad at that. There's been whispers in the past.
Speaker 1: The reports are that at some point this series Dame
Speaker 1: will play thanks to our brother Sham. But if Dame
Speaker 1: isn't Dame, him just being on the court is not
Speaker 1: enough for this team to advance, and I think we
Speaker 1: know that, you know, we've kind of seen since then
Speaker 1: winning a championship, this team has not really taken any
Speaker 1: steps forward. They've moved role players that they thought they
Speaker 1: can get around with. Similar to Denver, I think sometimes
Speaker 1: people get fucked up obviously knowing that the stars make
Speaker 1: the world go round, but role players are so instrumental
Speaker 1: in championship runs. And you look at the PJ. Tuckers
Speaker 1: and the Portoises and the guys they had during those
Speaker 1: runs that they let go, similar to what Denver did,
Speaker 1: you know when they let their Jeff Green and Bruce
Speaker 1: Brown and all those role players go there instrumental and
Speaker 1: they haven't been able to find that chemistry since. So
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not mad at what you said. This could
Speaker 1: be the last time we see Yannis wearing that nasty green.
Speaker 1: We will have to pay attention. Giannis has three years
Speaker 1: left on his deal in a player option for twenty
Speaker 1: twenty seven twenty eight season. That's sixty three million, So
Speaker 1: that'll definitely be an interesting series is to play close
Speaker 1: attention to are we seeing the end of an era?
Speaker 1: With Giannis next up? This is one of my favorite
Speaker 1: first round matchups. Nicks versus the Pistons. Obviously, Nicks shout
Speaker 1: out to Tibbs back to back, first back to back
Speaker 1: fifty win seasons since pat Riley did it way back
Speaker 1: in the day when we are teenagers. The Pistons, I
Speaker 1: want to salute this team man, the way they've been
Speaker 1: quietly being able to build a solid, young, versatile roster.
Speaker 1: And who's over there coaching. He got the act somewhere.
Speaker 1: He didn't even deserve to get the ash from Cleveland, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: fix that completely changed the mentality of that organization round
Speaker 1: along with the players. But this is going to be
Speaker 1: an interesting matchup, KD. You know Brunson's been struggling with injury.
Speaker 1: He's getting back, but we all know the Knicks core
Speaker 1: guys are at the top of the league in minutes,
Speaker 1: and that fifty win means nothing if you can't do
Speaker 1: nothing in the playoff because you're too tired. So what
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on this first round matchup?
Speaker 2: Very interesting matchup.
Speaker 4: I think Detroit has such a young team, They're talented,
Speaker 4: they're hungry act they know that they.
Speaker 2: Belong now right.
Speaker 4: They have really developed that program they embody Coach Bickerstaff
Speaker 4: and his personality, cad is taking his game.
Speaker 2: To another level. They got a lot of defensive versatility.
Speaker 4: But I think the Knicks has too much experience to
Speaker 4: be outsted in the first round. Tivs is a you know,
Speaker 4: he's battle tested, especially you know, in the first round
Speaker 4: of the playoffs. I think Kat brings a different dimension,
Speaker 4: you know, playoff cat.
Speaker 2: You know, I think big Bodega in New York.
Speaker 4: I think he'll have his energy, and yeah, I think
Speaker 4: the Knicks will take care of business against the Pistons.
Speaker 1: I definitely agree. I think this is going to be
Speaker 1: a good opportunity for the Pistons to touch the playoffs.
Speaker 1: They haven't been there in a while. Good young team
Speaker 1: with the Thompson Twins and Cade and all those pieces
Speaker 1: they have over there. But I agree, I think the
Speaker 1: Knicks do have the depth. I just want to see
Speaker 1: how long this depth can last. But you know, whether
Speaker 1: they have three guys or four guys in the top
Speaker 1: twenty five, guys in the top ten in minutes and
Speaker 1: five in the top twenty five, so they're starting five
Speaker 1: has played the majority of the season. Although I respect
Speaker 1: that and hats off, we all know, man, when it
Speaker 1: comes to playoff times, you need them legs agree.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 4: But the thing about it is those guys have been
Speaker 4: playing that those type of minutes the whole year, and
Speaker 4: like you can't save them in the playoffs. You get
Speaker 4: days in between, so you get a chance to recover. Obviously,
Speaker 4: Tibbs plays his guys right, but you know, it's just
Speaker 4: a part of TIBs philosophy.
Speaker 1: That'll be interesting to see though, because again, if this team,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't see him losing in the first round,
Speaker 1: but it's going to be an interesting second round matchup.
Speaker 1: I mean, does that style does that kind of wear
Speaker 1: and tear on your core? If you're an owner or
Speaker 1: GM or you know, are you looking at that as like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're winning during the regular season, but we have nothing
Speaker 1: in the gas tank when it comes to playoffs. So
Speaker 1: that'll be something interesting to pay attention to. Celtics, who
Speaker 1: are my pick to win it as long as they're healthy.
Speaker 1: We'll either see them Magic or the Hawks. If you're
Speaker 1: the Celtics, do you prefer one of those two? Would
Speaker 1: you rather stay away from one? What are your thoughts
Speaker 1: on that?
Speaker 4: I would rather see the Hawks the Magic personally, but
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter who the Celtic C.
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna repeat this year.
Speaker 4: I think they're just that good, They're that talented, they
Speaker 4: can play a wide range of styles, and so I
Speaker 4: don't I don't really care who the Celtic ceed.
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna handle their business.
Speaker 1: I agree, and I really like they've been they've been
Speaker 1: kind of slow walking. Porzingis the whole season because he
Speaker 1: was in and out a little bit last year when
Speaker 1: it met the most. And then obviously Jayalen Brown won't
Speaker 1: be one hundred percent, but he's obviously an instrumental part
Speaker 1: in the finals.
Speaker 3: MVP.
Speaker 1: But I agree with you. I mean, from Pritchard to
Speaker 1: White to the white, who's the white boy that Shootskawseruser
Speaker 1: is a notch down shooter. Yeah, Misoula gets the most
Speaker 1: out of those guys. And to me, that's the one
Speaker 1: team that is locked in last but not least calves
Speaker 1: in the playing number one team in the Eastern Conference
Speaker 1: all year, uh Donovan, Mitchell Garland Mobilely, this team is
Speaker 1: deep and and I think they're ready to make a
Speaker 1: run again. Who they play in the first round doesn't
Speaker 1: really matter. What are your thoughts on this team? Obviously,
Speaker 1: you and I both feel that the Celtics will come
Speaker 1: out of the East. Do the Calves pose a threat
Speaker 1: and we're looking obviously a little bit ahead because they
Speaker 1: were probably playing the Eastern Conference finals?
Speaker 3: Do that? Do that?
Speaker 1: Do the Calves pose a threat to Boston?
Speaker 4: They absolutely oppose a threat to to everybody. Really, the Calves,
Speaker 4: they're young, they're talented. Donovan Mitchell is proving proving himself
Speaker 4: time and time again, in particular in the playoffs. If
Speaker 4: you look at some of his averages in the playoffs,
Speaker 4: like young fella.
Speaker 2: Be ready during the playoff time.
Speaker 4: They got the defensive versatility, they're well coached, they like
Speaker 4: playing with each other. They made some adjustments at the
Speaker 4: deadline so they got better defensively. But yeah, they're they're
Speaker 4: They're probably the biggest threat to the Celtics in the East.
Speaker 2: In my opinion.
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell in the playoffs career number twenty eight, five
Speaker 1: and five come on now and he's been in the
Speaker 1: playoffs every year of his career, so that boys ready.
Speaker 1: He knows come April it's time to go.
Speaker 4: And I really like the way Donovan adjusted his game
Speaker 4: for Garland this year, Like this was a big mental
Speaker 4: year for Garland and Donovan adjusted his game, and in
Speaker 4: my opinion, he grew within his game because he plays
Speaker 4: on the defensive end now and then he shows selflessness
Speaker 4: by just saying, hey, you know what, DG.
Speaker 2: We need you, We need you to perform.
Speaker 4: So that when the playoffs do come around, we can
Speaker 4: have that extra weapon.
Speaker 1: I think Donovan Mitchell, to your point, is one of
Speaker 1: the most underappreciated superstars we have in this game. He's
Speaker 1: done nothing but be great every stop. You know, only
Speaker 1: two stops, but every single season in the playoffs. Numbers
Speaker 1: are crazy in the playoffs. But I don't think he
Speaker 1: gets enough, maybe because he's been just been in smaller markets,
Speaker 1: you know, his whole career, the great State of Utah,
Speaker 1: Max's favorite, and then obviously Cleveland, you know, not the
Speaker 1: biggest Marcus, but definitely I definitely see the Calves in
Speaker 1: the season, in the Eastern Conference finals, heading over to
Speaker 1: the West where we do it the best. We'll start
Speaker 1: off with the Lakers and the Wolves. This shit came
Speaker 1: down to last night's game, and I was selfishly looking
Speaker 1: forward to Golden State and the Lakers in the first round,
Speaker 1: but possibly could get that in the second round. But
Speaker 1: let's start with the Lakers. If I'm the Lakers, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm happy with this draw that I've gotten. Although Anthony
Speaker 1: Edwards led the league in three pointers this year, I
Speaker 1: think he lets people off the hook a little too
Speaker 1: much because he's shooting that thing so much. But obviously
Speaker 1: the big void is losing Cap and Julia Randall hasn't
Speaker 1: been able to really elevate the team like they thought
Speaker 1: that trade would do. But what is your thought on
Speaker 1: this first round matchup?
Speaker 2: I like the match up.
Speaker 4: I think it's box office right, anytime you have that
Speaker 4: kind of talent on the court, you know. But I
Speaker 4: believe that the Lakers are gonna take full advantage of
Speaker 4: the youth of the Timberwolves. I don't think the Timberwolves
Speaker 4: have enough offensive weapons. I think they've regressed offensively after
Speaker 4: losing Cat. I don't think Julius say is like really like,
Speaker 4: you know, stepped up in that way and felt that boy.
Speaker 4: But one thing about Anthony Edwards, he loves the moment.
Speaker 4: He loves the you know, the limelight. You know, the
Speaker 4: lights will be on, you know. But I just think
Speaker 4: that the Lakers will take full advantage of the Timberwolves.
Speaker 2: In this series.
Speaker 1: I agree, and I think the importance for the Lakers
Speaker 1: to not play with their food. I think it's important
Speaker 1: for them to finish every series as fast as possible
Speaker 1: and get as much rest as possible for their guys,
Speaker 1: obviously Lebron being the main person I'm thinking about, but
Speaker 1: just overall, we know at this point everyone's no one's healthy,
Speaker 1: everyone's banged up. So the more rest you can get,
Speaker 1: the better series like this. You don't want this to
Speaker 1: drag six or seven games. You know, you want to
Speaker 1: get this Wolves team out of here in five, six
Speaker 1: at the most. But I would want to say, you
Speaker 1: want to get the Wolves out of here in five
Speaker 1: and get some rest, So we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 1: Second matchup, we're looking as the Rockets sitting in the
Speaker 1: second seed. Congratulations to them, emy Udoka. He's got a
Speaker 1: team full of dogs that have basically definitely taken on
Speaker 1: his personality, young and hungry. This is gonna be a
Speaker 1: fun team for many years to watch. Obviously crept up
Speaker 1: into the second spot. They will face either the Warriors
Speaker 1: or the Grizzlies. The Warriors are in the playing game
Speaker 1: for the fourth time. They tip off tomorrow night. They're
Speaker 1: zero to three in playing games, So the Warriors definitely
Speaker 1: got the odds against them. That Harrison barn shot kind
Speaker 1: of fucked them up, right, that Harrison Barnes in Golden State,
Speaker 1: that crazy game winner, and it was in Jimmy's face,
Speaker 1: in Jimmy's face to kind of put the Warriors in
Speaker 1: the do or die situation. Obviously, last night, Kawhi and
Speaker 1: motherfucking James Harden weren't playing, but a former Warrior could
Speaker 1: possibly have the Warriors sitting at home if they don't
Speaker 1: show up tomorrow night versus young hungry Grizzlies team.
Speaker 3: But for the.
Speaker 1: Rockets to play either one of these teams, what are
Speaker 1: your thoughts on this series?
Speaker 4: I personally don't want the Rockets to have to see
Speaker 4: the Warriors. I think they've had such a fantastic season.
Speaker 4: But the Warriors are so battle tested and they played
Speaker 4: so well since getting Jimmy on the squad that I
Speaker 4: would hate for them to have to run into those
Speaker 4: boys in the first round.
Speaker 2: So I'm you know.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, Man Houston, Man, they they're
Speaker 4: one of those teams I think that are built for
Speaker 4: the future, but they.
Speaker 2: Don't have the experience right now.
Speaker 4: You know, if they was to run into the Warriors,
Speaker 4: I think Houston would lose that series.
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think this is you know,
Speaker 1: they're they're on a similar trajectories. Okay, See, we've seen
Speaker 1: OKC kind of tread water at the top of the
Speaker 1: Western Conference the last few years, and everyone are they're
Speaker 1: too young, they're to this, to that. Now they're here again,
Speaker 1: and obviously we'll get to OKAYC and what they can do.
Speaker 1: But I feel like the Rockets, to your point, are
Speaker 1: built for the future. But they're here now, and I
Speaker 1: agree seeing the Warriors would not be ideal for them
Speaker 1: in the first round. So we will see who that
Speaker 1: young team plays come tomorrow night. Next up, This is
Speaker 1: going to be a very interesting series right here. One
Speaker 1: teams won eight in a row, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: the Clippers, and one eight in a row with Kawhi
Speaker 1: Leonard on the court and being everything he was when
Speaker 1: he was a two time Finals MVP versus the Nuggets,
Speaker 1: and the Nuggets can either go two ways, unite team
Speaker 1: wise through all the BS that's been going on, or
Speaker 1: allow that to fracture that team. And before we get
Speaker 1: into the matchup, what is going on over there with
Speaker 1: young Kronky. Kronky's all right, do you went to school
Speaker 1: with Cronky?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, yeah, I played with k Yeah.
Speaker 1: You played with Josh Atmazoo, right, I did so interesting
Speaker 1: to me, And obviously you tell me your thoughts. Okay,
Speaker 1: you want to fire Mike Malone and you want to
Speaker 1: get Kavimbu. I mean, I have no issue with that,
Speaker 1: but doing it right now, I mean, to me, that
Speaker 1: was a very crazy left field move. If you want
Speaker 1: to fire the due fire him after the playoffs. But
Speaker 1: obviously they felt like you had to go now. But
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on that before we actually get
Speaker 1: to the matchup of the Clippers.
Speaker 2: Well, think about the Kronkys in that family. They have
Speaker 2: a standard they do.
Speaker 4: They real good people, They stand up people, and like,
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, if you're not speaking
Speaker 4: head coaching GM, if you're not being professional in that setting,
Speaker 4: your butting heads and things like that, I don't think
Speaker 4: Josh was gonna let that linger, you know, And he
Speaker 4: made a swift decision, a bold decision at that moment, right.
Speaker 4: And then also, if they don't have plans for the
Speaker 4: future for those guys to be brought back. You know,
Speaker 4: they maybe they wanted to get out of the get
Speaker 4: out of the race so they could get some new
Speaker 4: younger talent as a coach, or maybe you know somebody
Speaker 4: who else who's been fired. But Kromp don't play like that. Man,
Speaker 4: He's he's a hooper red heart. Yeah, he's a hoop
Speaker 4: of red heart. And so if they didn't, it wasn't
Speaker 4: representing him in the way that he thought was right.
Speaker 4: He made his decision.
Speaker 1: Playing the Clippers will get them faster to that decision
Speaker 1: they want to make, because they could be gone in
Speaker 1: about ten days. So who do you have with the
Speaker 1: Clippers and the Nuggets. One team is hot at the
Speaker 1: right time, and one team has some bs at the top,
Speaker 1: and we all know it all starts at the top.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: Surprisingly, bro, I think the Clippers is the one team
Speaker 4: that really matches up well with.
Speaker 2: The Nuggets.
Speaker 4: In the West. So for me, I think that Clippers
Speaker 4: can get them. I personally think the Clippers can get them.
Speaker 4: They've been playing well as a team. They have the
Speaker 4: pedigree load management, I don't even want to call it
Speaker 4: load management, the way that they've been able to manage
Speaker 4: Kawhi and his body leading up into this moment has
Speaker 4: been beautiful. It's been brilliant. They're well coached. I think
Speaker 4: Van Gundy now is their defensive coordinator. You know, Norman
Speaker 4: Powell has stepped up this year and brought an additional scoring.
Speaker 4: James is facilitating and he's getting his hands on a
Speaker 4: lot of balls defensively, and I think Zobak has the size,
Speaker 4: who has the size down low to be able to
Speaker 4: not stop Joker, but at least make it a little difficult.
Speaker 4: I think the Clippers are a very dangerous team coming
Speaker 4: out of the West. I think they're dangerous.
Speaker 1: You touched on them, and I'm glad you touched on them.
Speaker 1: Is one of the most underrated players in the game.
Speaker 1: I think he averaged what what did he average this
Speaker 1: year seventeen and thirteen, And like you said, he won't
Speaker 1: be he won't be able to stop Jokic, but he's
Speaker 1: also going to make Jokic work on that defensive end.
Speaker 1: Zu goes about his business. If I'm not mistaken, they
Speaker 1: traded him for Mike Muskala and he's been doing his
Speaker 1: thing ever since, just under the radar. But this year,
Speaker 1: I think he's had a real breakout year. He could
Speaker 1: definitely be in the conversation on no field B, but
Speaker 1: he should be in the conversation of most improved player.
Speaker 1: He just consistently got better every single year. And he's
Speaker 1: one of those throwback guys where you can throw the
Speaker 1: ball down low and he can get you a bucket too.
Speaker 1: So seventeen and thirteen. But to all your points, we
Speaker 1: know Tyler's one of the best coaches in the game.
Speaker 1: We saw what James did last game, but particularly in overtime.
Speaker 1: He took that shit over yesterday. And then obviously Kawhi
Speaker 1: is the key. We know Kawhi is the key, and
Speaker 1: if we get a healthy Kawhi Leonard this playoff series,
Speaker 1: he's gonna piss everyone off because why can't we get
Speaker 1: this all the time? But he if he hasn't, now
Speaker 1: it's going to be at the right time. And I agree.
Speaker 1: I feel like the Clippers one of those teams that's
Speaker 1: kind of just floated under the radar of the entire season.
Speaker 1: But I would not be surprised at all if this
Speaker 1: is the team that represents the Western Conference in the finals.
Speaker 1: The one person that's linked to the Nugget situation has
Speaker 1: been Bob Myers, I don't know if I see Bob
Speaker 1: going up to the cold to run that shit. I
Speaker 1: think Bob is waiting for some something in sunny California
Speaker 1: to pop off, and particularly down south, to pop off,
Speaker 1: for him to slide in one of those situations. I
Speaker 1: see Bob obviously he's got a good gig at ESPN
Speaker 1: right now and got out at the right time with
Speaker 1: the Warriors. I see Bob floating around that Los Angeles
Speaker 1: Lakers franchise when the time is needed. I just kick
Speaker 1: my feet up if I'm Bob and kind of wait
Speaker 1: for that last but not least The Thunder will be
Speaker 1: the number one seed in the Western Conference, so you know,
Speaker 1: obviously we know all the playing teams and all the
Speaker 1: possibilities with the Thunder. I don't really see maybe the
Speaker 1: Warriors possibly given them because of the experience, but I
Speaker 1: think they may be too young and up and down
Speaker 1: for the Warriors myself. But do you see anybody do
Speaker 1: you see Oklahoma City coming out of the Western Conference.
Speaker 2: I think it's their time, you know.
Speaker 4: I think they've they've heard all the noise about people
Speaker 4: saying they don't have enough experience, they aren't tough enough,
Speaker 4: all the all these negative things, you know, in regards
Speaker 4: to how they play as a team.
Speaker 2: But I think this is their year to take that step.
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna I think we're gonna see the
Speaker 4: Celtics and okay, see in the finals.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: So my question, my rebuttal not really rebutal. My questions
Speaker 1: of that is who is Oklahoma City's second guy that
Speaker 1: will be twenty points a game in the playoffs. They've
Speaker 1: done it by committee all year. Who will be their
Speaker 1: consistent second guy as a check is a Jalen? Who
Speaker 1: is going to be their second guy that you have
Speaker 1: to have in the playoffs that is a twenty point
Speaker 1: a game a night score.
Speaker 2: I think it's Jalen.
Speaker 4: I think he's a guy who can do it on
Speaker 4: both ends of the floor. I think he has the talent.
Speaker 4: I think he has the greed. I think he's a
Speaker 4: young player eager to prove himself right, and I just
Speaker 4: think it's his moment now. I think he's gonna embrace
Speaker 4: this like, no, y'all, y'all not gonna point the finger
Speaker 4: at me. I'm gonna show y'all that I'm worded.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I'm with you. I
Speaker 1: feel like this can be the year that Oklahoma City
Speaker 1: has hurt all the rumblings and they paid their dues
Speaker 1: and did what they need to do to represent the
Speaker 1: Western Conference. This also could be the last year that
Speaker 1: someone upsets them and moving forward will be their time.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be interesting to see. I'm really excited
Speaker 1: about this playoff. I think there's been a lot of
Speaker 1: complaining about the whole season and what should and shouldn't happen,
Speaker 1: and this is born, then ratings are down. This is
Speaker 1: gonna be a dope ass playoffs. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: intriguing matchups. Obviously, the playing is super entertaining. I've always
Speaker 1: been a fan of the playing because those games are
Speaker 1: such high level. But I'm really excited to get these
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five playoffs started with the playoffs here, the
Speaker 1: producers put some questions together for us, so I want
Speaker 1: to shoot them to you which player player or player
Speaker 1: is the most important to their team's success this playoffs.
Speaker 1: Here's a couple, guys, I'm gonna throw at you. Kawhi
Speaker 1: Leonard last two months averaging twenty five points, seven rebounds,
Speaker 1: two steals per game on fifty forty three and eighty
Speaker 1: from the strike score thirty three and seven and three
Speaker 1: steals against the Warriors on Sunday to seal the Warriors
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. Cat Bridges and og you know the Knicks,
Speaker 1: we talk about their depth and the new pieces they've received,
Speaker 1: got you know, got a gotta target on their back
Speaker 1: check and j Dupp who's gonna step up? And we
Speaker 1: just talked about who's going to be the second score?
Speaker 1: Anybody come to mind with you?
Speaker 4: I would say the young guys from Oklahoma City, Right,
Speaker 4: it's really what they do that's gonna determine if Oklahoma
Speaker 4: City can get to that conference final.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, Like Kawhi is Kawhi.
Speaker 4: We know what he brings when he's healthy, so that's
Speaker 4: not necessarily a surprise there. But like if those young guys,
Speaker 4: you don't know, because they improve it, if they can
Speaker 4: go out and prove themselves, improve their value, they give
Speaker 4: Oklahoma City a great opportunity to get to the Western
Speaker 4: Conference Final.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on the other side. My pick to
Speaker 1: win it all. I think it's Porzingis and Jayalen Brown.
Speaker 1: Can they be healthy enough to be right there with
Speaker 1: Tatum And I think Tatum's on some redemption shit. He's
Speaker 1: quietly had another great probably first team All NBA type year,
Speaker 1: was fucked up. Was fucked over last summer with the Olympics,
Speaker 1: So that's definitely on his shoulder. Uh, you know, was
Speaker 1: snubbed for Finals MVP, so that's definitely on his shoulder.
Speaker 1: So I know Tatum's mind is locked in well, Jalen
Speaker 1: Brown's health in Porzingis's health allow them to be you
Speaker 1: know that that that that big three duo that I
Speaker 1: feel like they need to repeat. Young breakout stars last
Speaker 1: year was Anthony Edwards. Who do you see as a
Speaker 1: young breakout stars? Is it Williams over and okc or Chet,
Speaker 1: Is it Amen Thompson, Is it Jalen Green, Kde Cunningham Mobiley.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a ton of young stars that are
Speaker 1: you know, really gonna at their teeth this year in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, does anyone jump out to you as someone
Speaker 1: who is going to steal the shine?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think Amon Thompson down in Houston. I think he's
Speaker 4: so dynamic on both ends.
Speaker 2: Of the floor. He's a freak of nature athletically and
Speaker 2: in the playoffs.
Speaker 4: I think his game is kind of built for the physicality,
Speaker 4: so I think he's going to have a breakout, you know,
Speaker 4: playoff performance. And he's from Fort Lauderdale at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, so I'm staying with the home team.
Speaker 1: Wait is he I thought he's from there. I thought
Speaker 1: the Twins are from the Bay.
Speaker 2: Well, they went to high school in Fort Lauderdale.
Speaker 1: Team I don't even know who I want. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously I'm a big fan of the Twins because I
Speaker 1: got twins.
Speaker 3: I love Kate.
Speaker 1: I just don't think they're gonna get out the first round.
Speaker 1: Obviously going to be someone who has to go a
Speaker 1: couple of different rounds, so you're gonna be able to
Speaker 1: see that. So Thompson could be mobiley. But whoever it is,
Speaker 1: I'm really excited for this year's playoffs.
Speaker 3: Kd.
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me, Bro and we.
Speaker 2: Will talk to you.
Speaker 1: So you look at you you look you look good
Speaker 1: today too. If no one tells you, I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 1: Want to welcome in one of my former classmates, the
Speaker 1: head coach of the UCLA football program, Deshaun foster Man.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I know you came straight from practice today. Announcement We've
Speaker 1: teamed up with you guys for your Friday Night Lights
Speaker 1: that'll be taking place Friday the eighteenth. Doors open at
Speaker 1: five thirty, practice starts at seven. You pitched us an
Speaker 1: idea of Rutger Park for football. This will be your
Speaker 1: second time doing it, if I'm not mistaken. Right second,
Speaker 1: you guys did it last year? How did how did
Speaker 1: last year go? And how are you hoping this year goes?
Speaker 3: Last year went great? It went so it was it
Speaker 3: was so big and way bigger than we anticipate. That's
Speaker 3: why we had to move it to the Drake Stadium,
Speaker 3: So moved to Drake. We love just how the fans
Speaker 3: came out and the way they were on the field
Speaker 3: and just like Rutger you know you right, you can
Speaker 3: feel it and that's what I was trying. Now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you got some I mean you got three
Speaker 1: one oh baby coming out. You got what's what's what's
Speaker 1: the what's the oldude's name that's gonna MC? What's his name?
Speaker 1: Fit will be MC? And what made you? I love
Speaker 1: the move? First of all, I mean, I've always been
Speaker 1: a huge advocate of UCLA, but I've also been frustrated
Speaker 1: from a standpoint that we always go out and get
Speaker 1: outside people when we have a plenty of people that
Speaker 1: have been in our ecosystem that have put the work in,
Speaker 1: that are talented enough to take a position such as yours.
Speaker 1: What did it mean for you to be able to
Speaker 1: come back to somewhere you grew up wanting to go
Speaker 1: at a successful career at UCLA, went on to play pro,
Speaker 1: and now you're back as the head coach of UCLA football.
Speaker 1: What does that mean to you and your family?
Speaker 3: I mean a lot. You know, you really can't put
Speaker 3: it in the words just because you're not sure if
Speaker 3: it's obtainable or what's going on. But UCLA is doing
Speaker 3: a good job. Now are finally, like you said, hiring
Speaker 3: from inside m H. And you know other sports are
Speaker 3: doing that and hopefully we can just continue to do that.
Speaker 3: But as long as I can continue to be successful,
Speaker 3: I think that there the trend to keep going.
Speaker 1: I think you set the tone. You know, we had
Speaker 1: this conversation. I think there's a lot not added pressure,
Speaker 1: but outside because again you're kind of the first homegrown
Speaker 1: higher for a major sports program we've had, Martin. We
Speaker 1: got some other situations coming up soon. This is just
Speaker 1: me talking to you I got some people that know,
Speaker 1: some people that owe some people. We need to have lunch, man,
Speaker 1: we need to sit down and talk. But you know,
Speaker 1: I was super excited when they announced you. You know,
Speaker 1: obviously text I couldn't make the press conference, but again,
Speaker 1: just excited. We came in UC that ninety eight together.
Speaker 1: I saw you put your work in on the field
Speaker 1: and then just a full circle moment to see you
Speaker 1: the head coach and the energy that you bring in,
Speaker 1: the passion you bring and I think now coaching and
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. Obviously X and o's will
Speaker 1: always be important, but you relate to these kids.
Speaker 3: That's the number one thing right now. You got to
Speaker 3: be able to relate to these kids because the portal
Speaker 3: is something that's every year, and it's twice a year,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So if you can't relate
Speaker 3: to these kids and get them to want to come
Speaker 3: back or buy in or really be in your program
Speaker 3: to develop them, then you're in this business.
Speaker 1: So what is your thoughts? I mean, obviously recruiting isn't
Speaker 1: the way we're recruited obviously changes the whole dynamic. And
Speaker 1: then the portal. You hear college coaches, you know, Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. College coaches like, hey, we're not really looking
Speaker 1: at excuse me, for basketball, We're not really looking at
Speaker 1: high schoolkids. Don't feel high school kids can help us.
Speaker 1: We're going to jump in the portal. Do you guys
Speaker 1: have a philosophy or a balance on how you approach
Speaker 1: the portal?
Speaker 3: And nil, Yeah, we do. You have to. We're bringing
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty twenty eight kids per class a little bit,
Speaker 3: so it's kind of depending on what your holes are
Speaker 3: or where they're at. But if we recruit a high
Speaker 3: school kid, we think he's a draft pick, he has
Speaker 3: potential to make it to the NFL. If he lets
Speaker 3: us develop him, then we have that chance. And then
Speaker 3: the portal guy's those free agents. You know, you got
Speaker 3: to get in there and get a couple guys because
Speaker 3: some seniors might leave. People leave early, and you got
Speaker 3: to plug some holes and fill them early. But you know,
Speaker 3: right now, just with the landscape of the business, you know,
Speaker 3: I enjoyed. I want these kids to get paid. You know,
Speaker 3: we were the number one recruiting class football and basketball
Speaker 3: when we came in, so we understand the value of
Speaker 3: the school. As long as I can still keep pumping
Speaker 3: the school and they understand what you get with coming
Speaker 3: with UCLA.
Speaker 1: There's a kid out there, Nico. I don't want to
Speaker 1: butcher his last name, but he goes to Tennessee. I
Speaker 1: heard he left Tennessee. I know he's from so Cal.
Speaker 1: I know you may not be able to talk about
Speaker 1: recruits and names, but every time I've seen anybody post
Speaker 1: on Nico, I've been put in UCLA football.
Speaker 2: You might as well.
Speaker 1: You might as well come on home, man, bring he bring,
Speaker 1: bring your brother with you, bring pops, you know, bring
Speaker 1: the whole family.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: It's Westwood is a beautiful place, man with a lot
Speaker 1: of perks, and we'll take care of you. This is
Speaker 1: me talking, by the way. I won't get nobody in
Speaker 1: trouble on set, but this is me talking. Your journey
Speaker 1: from done playing to running back coach over at Texas Tech.
Speaker 1: Come back home and you're a running back coach for
Speaker 1: UCLA too, And then when that phone rang to be
Speaker 1: the head coach of the Bruins, talk to us about
Speaker 1: your journey post career. Because a lot of us are
Speaker 1: a lot of players basketball, football, whatever. It may be
Speaker 1: kind of struggle when our careers are done and you
Speaker 1: been able to transition into coaching has been your journey,
Speaker 1: and your journey has brought you back home. But what
Speaker 1: is that journey like when you were done playing? And
Speaker 1: how long did it kind of take you to kind
Speaker 1: of get your mojo back and find what's going to
Speaker 1: be your second act post NFL.
Speaker 3: I came back to school just to finish my degree.
Speaker 3: So I wanted to finish my degree. I did that,
Speaker 3: and so I came back in twenty twelve. I finished
Speaker 3: playing in nine and those last couple of years or so,
Speaker 3: twenty ten, eleven twelve, I was kind of just going
Speaker 3: to see the homies play whoever was still playing, going
Speaker 3: traveling the games and enjoying that. And then you know,
Speaker 3: you do promise your mom is you will finish college.
Speaker 3: So I had to go back and do that. And
Speaker 3: as I was coming back, I was going to be
Speaker 3: on campus every day. Bobby Fields, the coach that recruited
Speaker 3: me to come to UCLA, was the ad over football,
Speaker 3: and he was like, if you're gonna be on campus
Speaker 3: every day, come by. I was like, okay. And I
Speaker 3: still didn't know if I wanted to coach at that time.
Speaker 3: You know, I knew I might have wanted to be
Speaker 3: around football, but coaching those hours is different. It's a lot.
Speaker 3: It's a lot. So we did that twenty twelve thirteen,
Speaker 3: I was an undergrad coach. Twenty fourteen, I was a
Speaker 3: GA so my master's for a season. That next year
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, I became a player development at UCLA. Then
Speaker 3: the twenty sixteen I got the running back job at
Speaker 3: Texas Tech and I was mahomes last season. So that's
Speaker 3: why I what was he like?
Speaker 1: What was he like in college? Just like he is
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs?
Speaker 3: Exactly cold. It's just that you don't know if he
Speaker 3: can continue to play at the tyrans on the next level.
Speaker 3: Is it going to translate to the pros? And you
Speaker 3: do it all over again. I know those all those
Speaker 3: teams would go back and draft Pas because of all
Speaker 3: those quarterback they took perform, no questions.
Speaker 1: Big ten life. I mean we grew up Pac ten
Speaker 1: and it transitioned into Pac twelve. But now Big ten.
Speaker 1: I mean, the travel schedule is probably outrageous, But what
Speaker 1: is I mean, obviously this was a football move for
Speaker 1: our school stuff, So what is that? What is that like?
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you're playing some of the biggest names
Speaker 1: in college football. You know, you guys five and seven,
Speaker 1: you guys had a very solid first season, fortant for
Speaker 1: obviously for a first year head coach, but then transitioning
Speaker 1: into one of the most powerful football conferences in the country.
Speaker 3: Most definitely as a competitor.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 3: I was disappoint with our record, but you know, it
Speaker 3: was a new conference, new travel, new stadiums, a lot
Speaker 3: of new stuff that a lot of our players haven't
Speaker 3: been involved in before. So it was a it was
Speaker 3: a different It was a lot of change. But you know,
Speaker 3: if you want to be great, you want to play
Speaker 3: these big time games. You want to play, if you
Speaker 3: want to win end of the season awards and all
Speaker 3: of that stuff, you got to play these teams and
Speaker 3: you got to be in these type of conferences. So
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: Was there any stadium you as kind of the player
Speaker 1: in you that you guys went to this year because
Speaker 1: you we didn't get the good chance to go to
Speaker 1: those kinds of stadiums we're in the pact. Any of
Speaker 1: those things, you're like, God, damn, this is dope.
Speaker 3: There was one in conference in one out of conference
Speaker 3: was in state. State got out there. Yeah, we didn't.
Speaker 3: I was kind of hoping it was a white out,
Speaker 3: but we didn't get that base. It was still live
Speaker 3: and then LSU. But I played at LSU during Katrina. Okay,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So we played the Saints
Speaker 3: inside it, but it was different. It wasn't rocking the
Speaker 3: way it was this past season.
Speaker 1: Best part about being the U C. L a Half
Speaker 1: football coach.
Speaker 3: Best part is just being back at home. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm at a university that I can speak for. I'm
Speaker 3: a walking blueprint on what this school can do for you,
Speaker 3: and I just try to make sure that my players
Speaker 3: understand that. And you know, as long as you're listening
Speaker 3: to me and following what our coaching staff can do,
Speaker 3: we can get you to your talk.
Speaker 1: Best of luck, new baby. Recently, how has that been?
Speaker 1: Is wife you holding? You getting any sleep? How's that going?
Speaker 3: I'm leaving the house at four o'clock.
Speaker 1: I see you guys out on the stairs, still dark.
Speaker 1: At first I looked at the thing, I'm like, heyay,
Speaker 1: this's motherfucker's dedicated. He's running stairs when it's dark. And
Speaker 1: then I looked at the time, like, oh shit, this
Speaker 1: was three hours. This is my fucker's running stairs at
Speaker 1: four in the morning, five in the morning. Grind, don't stop.
Speaker 3: But I just try to make sure that if the
Speaker 3: players can see me doing this, man, you got to
Speaker 3: see it to believe exactly. That's all it is.
Speaker 1: Well, congratulations, man, I wish you the best of luck.
Speaker 1: I'm happy that we're obviously partnering for Friday and night Lights,
Speaker 1: but obviously a bigger partnerships are in conversation and Nico
Speaker 1: be waiting on you, bro, come fuck with us. Appreciate you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: make sure you guys go check out the latest episode
Speaker 1: of Art of War with my brother andre Ward with
Speaker 1: his latest guest, Lamont Roach. Here's a clip. Take a look.
Speaker 3: What was your read on your Vonte going into the
Speaker 3: fight him personally?
Speaker 5: I think he doubt hisself. Hell of a talent, hell
Speaker 5: of a puncher, super super super good accuracy. I think
Speaker 5: that's what leads to the most of his knockouts, honestly.
Speaker 5: But he doubt his helf and he been doing that
Speaker 5: since a kid. Some you know, that's just something I know.
Speaker 5: So that played the that played a little a little
Speaker 5: bit into the into the fight. I think when especially
Speaker 5: when there's not a lot of animosity, cause you gotta
Speaker 5: think a lot of people he fought, they just have
Speaker 5: differences so that they be into it or whatever the
Speaker 5: case may be. I don't got no problem with him,
Speaker 5: and he don't got no problem with me. So I
Speaker 5: think he was trying to find something to boost his
Speaker 5: morale or get him going, or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 5: And he tried to, like like the betting me that
Speaker 5: he gonna knock me out and stuff like that. That
Speaker 5: they didn't go too too well for him.
Speaker 3: Did y'all bet? Oh? We bet?
Speaker 5: And we sugar on it.
Speaker 3: He changed his number? Got that chip? Hey? Got that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Got that chip? He changes number slim yeah.
Speaker 2: Hm.
Speaker 5: So you know, but that'd be a conversation for another day.
Speaker 1: That's a wrap for this week's show. You can catch
Speaker 1: this episode on All the Smoke Productions YouTube and the
Speaker 1: DraftKings Network. We'll see y'all next week.