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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Unplugged, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by DraftKings. The Phoenix Suns Hath fired coach Bud one

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Speaker 1: and done. Thirty six and forty six was his record

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Speaker 1: one season, but this has kind of been a common

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Speaker 1: thing since Matt Ishbia has taken over the Phoenix Suns.

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Speaker 1: He's had three coaches and his three years here, starting

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Speaker 1: with Money Williams forty five and thirty seven. The year

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Speaker 1: before that he won Coach of the Year and they

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Speaker 1: went to the finals. He was fired. Frank Vogel fell

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Speaker 1: victim after that, forty nine and thirty three. After one

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Speaker 1: season he was fired, and now Bud. Probably the only

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Speaker 1: one on this list that deserves to be fired is

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Speaker 1: thirty six and forty seven, and he's out. Obviously, we

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Speaker 1: know that the Phoenix Suns went to the finals in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. CP three was in the mix for

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Speaker 1: three years and I think everyone thought this was a

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Speaker 1: very promising situation for them. Isba came on board in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, fired Money Williams, fired Big Vogel, and

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Speaker 1: now fired Bud. The news has came out this morning

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Speaker 1: that the Sons will work with Kevin Durant on a

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Speaker 1: new trade destination. And I think that probably comes out

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Speaker 1: a little bit out of left field, because let's back

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Speaker 1: up a little bit. Bradley Beal, who I'm a big

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Speaker 1: fan of, Dad, Mark Bartlestein.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, his agent, So Beal's agent is Mark Bartelstein.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And then Mark Bartlestein's son, Josh, is the CEO of.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, So there was some inside you guys heard that.

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Speaker 1: So Marcus Beal's agent, Mark's son is the CEO of

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Speaker 1: the Sons, So there was some insider trading going on

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Speaker 1: with that team, and we all know that. Obviously, the

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Speaker 1: Beial experiment has not worked out. The team has been bad.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't been very good. I think he's averaged seventeen

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Speaker 1: and four over his two years with the Sons, played

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Speaker 1: no more than fifty three games each season, so he's

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Speaker 1: damn near making a million dollars a game. And to

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Speaker 1: his credit, he activated his no trade clause with this team.

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Speaker 1: So I think that clogged up the pop pipeline at

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Speaker 1: the trade deadline. And since that was clogged up, they

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Speaker 1: threw Kevin's name in there at a left field and obviously,

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Speaker 1: as it should, it kind of raised Katie's eyebrows, and

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Speaker 1: now they're on the verge of losing. Obviously Kevin Durant

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Speaker 1: this offseason. Another thing to keep in mind, Brad, Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Butler was very adamant about wanting to become a Phoenix

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Speaker 1: son and the one person that had from the Sun's

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Speaker 1: side that had to be in that trade was Beal,

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Speaker 1: and Bill exercised his no trade clause and completely plugged

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Speaker 1: up and clogged up and and fucked up that deal. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you look at what Jimmy Butler has done with

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Speaker 1: Golden State, injected new life into them and has them

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Speaker 1: in a playing situation, one just wonders what could have

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Speaker 1: happened if Jimmy Butler was able to go to the

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Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns. Very interesting and I just think you know,

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Speaker 1: of late this last month, I've really been talking about

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Speaker 1: new owners coming in and not necessarily understanding that this

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Speaker 1: is not fantasy basketball. Although it is your team, you

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Speaker 1: are free to do what you want. A lot of

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Speaker 1: these new owners are making mistakes. One owner partnership I

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Speaker 1: where a group came in paid a lot of money

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Speaker 1: for the team, but keeping with Grossbeck in charge of

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Speaker 1: things for three years, so almost a transitioning program for

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Speaker 1: the new ownership and allowing the old ownership to kind

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Speaker 1: of show them the lay of the land, because the

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Speaker 1: last thing they want to do is mess up the

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Speaker 1: property or the product on the court. And I think

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Speaker 1: the Celtics have done it the right way. You look

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Speaker 1: at Dallas and see what they've done. You look at

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Speaker 1: Phoenix and see what they've done. And we've always talked

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Speaker 1: about winning start at the top, So I think the

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Speaker 1: NBA needs to kind of really watch out for these

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Speaker 1: new owners and making sure they have the right mindset

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Speaker 1: and spirit and integrity it takes to run one of

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Speaker 1: these franchises, because we've seen two franchises with promising just

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Speaker 1: Dallas was in the finals last year and Phoenix in

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Speaker 1: the finals four years ago. New owners come in and

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Speaker 1: kind of completely tear down what was built before. Now

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Speaker 1: we want to welcome in my brother ke On Dueling

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Speaker 1: to talk about Phoenix. Kde Welcome to the show man, Bud,

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Speaker 1: it is gone. What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 4: Man, I mean, what is that three coaches in the

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Speaker 4: last three years something like that?

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Speaker 1: A coach per year since Ishbia has been here. Not

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Speaker 1: to cut you off. Every year there's been a new

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, it's obviously you know, something isn't isn't clicking

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Speaker 4: right because they're not able to you know, not only

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Speaker 4: get their talent, retain their talent. There's no continuity you

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Speaker 4: bringing in new programs every year.

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Speaker 2: I don't like it. Something is going on in Phoenix

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Speaker 2: and it just doesn't feel good to me.

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Speaker 1: I always felt like on paper, you see the names

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Speaker 1: this team's had, from Chris Paul to obviously Devin Booker's

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Speaker 1: been the constant, Kevin Durant the latest. I always felt

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Speaker 1: like they were a very top heavy team. I compared

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Speaker 1: them to a team that only lifts upper body and

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Speaker 1: their legs are super skinny. Because I said, they always

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Speaker 1: poured so much money into those guys. One thing too, obviously,

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Speaker 1: with the trend of late is being owners kind of

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Speaker 1: coming in and being a little bit over their head.

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Speaker 1: I don't know a ton about Eshbo obviously, you know,

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Speaker 1: walked on to Michigan State. But one thing I do

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Speaker 1: know is he hired Bartlestein, who was an assistant GM

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Speaker 1: over in Detroit, who is the son of Mike Bartelstein,

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Speaker 1: who is Beal's agent. So there's some home cooking. There

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Speaker 1: was some home cooking with that deal that brought Field

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Speaker 1: to Phoenix. That's pretty much fucked everything up. And this

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Speaker 1: is not shitting on Bill. I think Bal's been a

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Speaker 1: tremendous player throughout his career, but his time in Phoenix

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Speaker 1: he's at like seventeen and four. You know, he was

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Speaker 1: a twenty five point plus per game score. He's making

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Speaker 1: a ton of money, has it. He's played fifty three

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Speaker 1: games in his first two seasons in Phoenix, so pretty

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Speaker 1: much he's getting a million dollars per game. We know

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Speaker 1: that he was the one that didn't want to move

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Speaker 1: his no trade clause, which somehow Phoenix management thought he'd

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Speaker 1: be a good idea. Well, shit, if he's not going

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Speaker 1: to move his trade clause, let's se we can get

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Speaker 1: with Kevin Durant without asking Kevin Durant. And then now

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Speaker 1: you see reports this morning that Phoenix is gonna work

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Speaker 1: with Kevin Durant to find him a new home. So

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Speaker 1: I don't care how good your team is on paper

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Speaker 1: in the locker room, KD. We all know that shit

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Speaker 1: starts up top and it it's a trickle down effect.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, it's it's unfortunate, you know, because at the

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Speaker 4: end of the day, like this hurts Kevin Durant's legacy somewhat,

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Speaker 4: right because like, at the end of the day, if KD,

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Speaker 4: you know, doesn't doesn't get those championships in Golden State, right,

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Speaker 4: which they say he wasn't the leader on even though

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Speaker 4: he was the best player on that team. This was

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Speaker 4: an opportunity for him to go out band together, have

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Speaker 4: his own program, and it's just it's a failed experiment.

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Speaker 4: So I don't like it for KD, but I'm glad

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Speaker 4: they'll work with them to get him placed in the

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Speaker 4: right new situation.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant was the best player on that team and

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Speaker 1: I was there one year. Kevin Durant was the best

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Speaker 1: player on that motherfucking team. It was Steph's team, there's

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Speaker 1: no question about it. And Draymond was the leader. But

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant was the best player on that team. But

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Speaker 1: since we're on the Kevin Durant topic, before we go

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Speaker 1: to the next do where do we see him landing.

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Speaker 1: Do we see back to Golden State? Do we see

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Speaker 1: him to the Knicks? Do we see him to Houston?

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Speaker 1: Do we see him do we see you know, we

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Speaker 1: know Okac has a ton of things that they can

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Speaker 1: throw his way or a team's way to grab him. Ideally,

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Speaker 1: this is probably gonna be, hopefully be his last move.

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Speaker 1: Katie has maybe two three more years at best under

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Speaker 1: his belt. Where do you think a good fit for

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Speaker 1: Kevin would be? If this comes to fruition, then he

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Speaker 1: ends up leaving Phoenix anywhere.

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Speaker 4: Kevin Durant Gos is a good fit in my opinion.

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Speaker 4: He's just that good of a player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not just on the offensive end, but defensively, right.

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Speaker 2: KD is KD at the end of the day. He's

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Speaker 2: a hooper to the core. He loves this shit. He

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Speaker 2: loves it. I think it's the two sleeper locations, right.

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Speaker 4: If he doesn't go to like one of the big

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Speaker 4: contenders like I would have I would, I would think

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Speaker 4: Miami would try and make a move for him and

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Speaker 4: get a superstar down here at some point. Pat Riley

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Speaker 4: always tries to you know, maneuver and make his moves,

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Speaker 4: especially on the cusp of Jimmy kind of go in

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Speaker 4: a different direction.

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Speaker 2: And then don't be surprised if.

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Speaker 4: Like you know, the Wizards get the number one pick,

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Speaker 4: they get Cooper Flag. Maybe KD goes back home. That's

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Speaker 4: a sleeper that might happen as well. So I'm not

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Speaker 4: sure where he'll go. I just want him to go

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Speaker 4: somewhere where he can just hoop, you know, and build

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Speaker 4: on his legacy.

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Speaker 1: I think one thing that's rare about him being one

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Speaker 1: of those superstars, and obviously we live in the era

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Speaker 1: where superstars move. He seems to be the only superstar

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Speaker 1: that moves and fits in seamlessly wherever he goes, because

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Speaker 1: like you said, all he does is hoop. He don't

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Speaker 1: cause no problems. He goes out there and plays basketball

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Speaker 1: every day. He's healthy, and he plays it at a

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Speaker 1: very high level on both ends. So wherever he ends

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Speaker 1: up landing selfishly, I love to see him make a

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Speaker 1: run for Golden State. He's thirty seven, he's got one

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Speaker 1: million left on his deal. At fifty four million, you'll

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Speaker 1: probably look forward two to three year extension to ride

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Speaker 1: off into the sunset. Man, So we wish KD the

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Speaker 1: best of luck playoffs are here, Man, best time of

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Speaker 1: the year. The Eastern Conference playoffs picture as as such,

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Speaker 1: Bucks versus the Pacers, Nicks versus the Pistons. Celtics will

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Speaker 1: either play the Magic or the Hawks, and the Calves

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Speaker 1: will play whoever becomes the A seed. Obviously they're sitting

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Speaker 1: at the top of the East. Let's start with Bucks

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Speaker 1: and Pacers real quick. What do you like and don't

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Speaker 1: like about this series?

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't like that Dame, you know, may not

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Speaker 4: be available right I think they had injuries last year.

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Speaker 4: The Pacers are a team that beat them and put

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Speaker 4: them out of the playoffs last year. They are dangerous,

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Speaker 4: you know, especially like with a man down, especially somebody

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Speaker 4: is influential and impact with his Dame. We could be

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Speaker 4: seeing Yannis, you know, for the last time.

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Speaker 1: And don't say that. I don't say that.

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Speaker 4: If they get knocked out the first round. I can

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Speaker 4: see Yanni's trying to get to a bigger market.

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Speaker 1: Definitely not mad at that. There's been whispers in the past.

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Speaker 1: The reports are that at some point this series Dame

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Speaker 1: will play thanks to our brother Sham. But if Dame

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Speaker 1: isn't Dame, him just being on the court is not

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Speaker 1: enough for this team to advance, and I think we

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Speaker 1: know that, you know, we've kind of seen since then

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Speaker 1: winning a championship, this team has not really taken any

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Speaker 1: steps forward. They've moved role players that they thought they

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Speaker 1: can get around with. Similar to Denver, I think sometimes

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Speaker 1: people get fucked up obviously knowing that the stars make

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Speaker 1: first round matchups. Nicks versus the Pistons. Obviously, Nicks shout

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Speaker 4: I think Detroit has such a young team, They're talented,

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Speaker 4: They have really developed that program they embody Coach Bickerstaff

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Speaker 1: I mean, does that style does that kind of wear

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Speaker 1: I agree, and I really like they've been they've been

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Speaker 1: But I agree with you. I mean, from Pritchard to

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Speaker 4: they're young, they're talented. Donovan Mitchell is proving proving himself

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Speaker 2: Be ready during the playoff time.

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Speaker 4: They got the defensive versatility, they're well coached, they like

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Speaker 1: they're they're on a similar trajectories. Okay, See, we've seen

435
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 1: OKC kind of tread water at the top of the

436
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 1: Western Conference the last few years, and everyone are they're

437
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 1: too young, they're to this, to that. Now they're here again,

438
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 1: and obviously we'll get to OKAYC and what they can do.

439
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,640
Speaker 1: But I feel like the Rockets, to your point, are

440
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 1: built for the future. But they're here now, and I

441
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 1: agree seeing the Warriors would not be ideal for them

442
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 1: in the first round. So we will see who that

443
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Speaker 1: young team plays come tomorrow night. Next up, This is

444
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 1: going to be a very interesting series right here. One

445
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 1: teams won eight in a row, if I'm not mistaken,

446
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 1: the Clippers, and one eight in a row with Kawhi

447
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 1: Leonard on the court and being everything he was when

448
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 1: he was a two time Finals MVP versus the Nuggets,

449
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 1: and the Nuggets can either go two ways, unite team

450
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 1: wise through all the BS that's been going on, or

451
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,119
Speaker 1: allow that to fracture that team. And before we get

452
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Speaker 1: into the matchup, what is going on over there with

453
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Speaker 1: young Kronky. Kronky's all right, do you went to school

454
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 1: with Cronky?

455
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,159
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, yeah, I played with k Yeah.

456
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Speaker 1: You played with Josh Atmazoo, right, I did so interesting

457
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Speaker 1: to me, And obviously you tell me your thoughts. Okay,

458
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Speaker 1: you want to fire Mike Malone and you want to

459
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Speaker 1: get Kavimbu. I mean, I have no issue with that,

460
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 1: but doing it right now, I mean, to me, that

461
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 1: was a very crazy left field move. If you want

462
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Speaker 1: to fire the due fire him after the playoffs. But

463
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 1: obviously they felt like you had to go now. But

464
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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on that before we actually get

465
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Speaker 1: to the matchup of the Clippers.

466
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Speaker 2: Well, think about the Kronkys in that family. They have

467
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 2: a standard they do.

468
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Speaker 4: They real good people, They stand up people, and like,

469
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, if you're not speaking

470
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Speaker 4: head coaching GM, if you're not being professional in that setting,

471
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Speaker 4: your butting heads and things like that, I don't think

472
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Speaker 4: Josh was gonna let that linger, you know, And he

473
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Speaker 4: made a swift decision, a bold decision at that moment, right.

474
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Speaker 4: And then also, if they don't have plans for the

475
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Speaker 4: future for those guys to be brought back. You know,

476
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Speaker 4: they maybe they wanted to get out of the get

477
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Speaker 4: out of the race so they could get some new

478
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Speaker 4: younger talent as a coach, or maybe you know somebody

479
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Speaker 4: who else who's been fired. But Kromp don't play like that. Man,

480
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Speaker 4: He's he's a hooper red heart. Yeah, he's a hoop

481
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 4: of red heart. And so if they didn't, it wasn't

482
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Speaker 4: representing him in the way that he thought was right.

483
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Speaker 4: He made his decision.

484
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Speaker 1: Playing the Clippers will get them faster to that decision

485
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Speaker 1: they want to make, because they could be gone in

486
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Speaker 1: about ten days. So who do you have with the

487
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Speaker 1: Clippers and the Nuggets. One team is hot at the

488
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Speaker 1: right time, and one team has some bs at the top,

489
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Speaker 1: and we all know it all starts at the top.

490
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Speaker 3: You know.

491
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Speaker 4: Surprisingly, bro, I think the Clippers is the one team

492
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Speaker 4: that really matches up well with.

493
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Speaker 2: The Nuggets.

494
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Speaker 4: In the West. So for me, I think that Clippers

495
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Speaker 4: can get them. I personally think the Clippers can get them.

496
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Speaker 4: They've been playing well as a team. They have the

497
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Speaker 4: pedigree load management, I don't even want to call it

498
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Speaker 4: load management, the way that they've been able to manage

499
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Speaker 4: Kawhi and his body leading up into this moment has

500
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Speaker 4: been beautiful. It's been brilliant. They're well coached. I think

501
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Speaker 4: Van Gundy now is their defensive coordinator. You know, Norman

502
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 4: Powell has stepped up this year and brought an additional scoring.

503
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 4: James is facilitating and he's getting his hands on a

504
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Speaker 4: lot of balls defensively, and I think Zobak has the size,

505
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 4: who has the size down low to be able to

506
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Speaker 4: not stop Joker, but at least make it a little difficult.

507
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Speaker 4: I think the Clippers are a very dangerous team coming

508
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Speaker 4: out of the West. I think they're dangerous.

509
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Speaker 1: You touched on them, and I'm glad you touched on them.

510
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 1: Is one of the most underrated players in the game.

511
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: I think he averaged what what did he average this

512
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Speaker 1: year seventeen and thirteen, And like you said, he won't

513
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: be he won't be able to stop Jokic, but he's

514
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 1: also going to make Jokic work on that defensive end.

515
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 1: Zu goes about his business. If I'm not mistaken, they

516
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: traded him for Mike Muskala and he's been doing his

517
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: thing ever since, just under the radar. But this year,

518
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Speaker 1: I think he's had a real breakout year. He could

519
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: definitely be in the conversation on no field B, but

520
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: he should be in the conversation of most improved player.

521
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: He just consistently got better every single year. And he's

522
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Speaker 1: one of those throwback guys where you can throw the

523
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Speaker 1: ball down low and he can get you a bucket too.

524
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Speaker 1: So seventeen and thirteen. But to all your points, we

525
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Speaker 1: know Tyler's one of the best coaches in the game.

526
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Speaker 1: We saw what James did last game, but particularly in overtime.

527
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: He took that shit over yesterday. And then obviously Kawhi

528
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Speaker 1: is the key. We know Kawhi is the key, and

529
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Speaker 1: if we get a healthy Kawhi Leonard this playoff series,

530
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Speaker 1: he's gonna piss everyone off because why can't we get

531
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,239
Speaker 1: this all the time? But he if he hasn't, now

532
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Speaker 1: it's going to be at the right time. And I agree.

533
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Speaker 1: I feel like the Clippers one of those teams that's

534
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: kind of just floated under the radar of the entire season.

535
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Speaker 1: But I would not be surprised at all if this

536
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Speaker 1: is the team that represents the Western Conference in the finals.

537
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: The one person that's linked to the Nugget situation has

538
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: been Bob Myers, I don't know if I see Bob

539
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: going up to the cold to run that shit. I

540
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: think Bob is waiting for some something in sunny California

541
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Speaker 1: to pop off, and particularly down south, to pop off,

542
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Speaker 1: for him to slide in one of those situations. I

543
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: see Bob obviously he's got a good gig at ESPN

544
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: right now and got out at the right time with

545
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Speaker 1: the Warriors. I see Bob floating around that Los Angeles

546
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: Lakers franchise when the time is needed. I just kick

547
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Speaker 1: my feet up if I'm Bob and kind of wait

548
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Speaker 1: for that last but not least The Thunder will be

549
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: the number one seed in the Western Conference, so you know,

550
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Speaker 1: obviously we know all the playing teams and all the

551
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Speaker 1: possibilities with the Thunder. I don't really see maybe the

552
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: Warriors possibly given them because of the experience, but I

553
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 1: think they may be too young and up and down

554
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: for the Warriors myself. But do you see anybody do

555
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 1: you see Oklahoma City coming out of the Western Conference.

556
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Speaker 2: I think it's their time, you know.

557
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Speaker 4: I think they've they've heard all the noise about people

558
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 4: saying they don't have enough experience, they aren't tough enough,

559
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 4: all the all these negative things, you know, in regards

560
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 4: to how they play as a team.

561
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Speaker 2: But I think this is their year to take that step.

562
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Speaker 4: I think it's gonna I think we're gonna see the

563
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 4: Celtics and okay, see in the finals.

564
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Speaker 3: All right.

565
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Speaker 1: So my question, my rebuttal not really rebutal. My questions

566
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Speaker 1: of that is who is Oklahoma City's second guy that

567
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Speaker 1: will be twenty points a game in the playoffs. They've

568
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Speaker 1: done it by committee all year. Who will be their

569
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: consistent second guy as a check is a Jalen? Who

570
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Speaker 1: is going to be their second guy that you have

571
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Speaker 1: to have in the playoffs that is a twenty point

572
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Speaker 1: a game a night score.

573
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Speaker 2: I think it's Jalen.

574
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Speaker 4: I think he's a guy who can do it on

575
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Speaker 4: both ends of the floor. I think he has the talent.

576
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 4: I think he has the greed. I think he's a

577
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 4: young player eager to prove himself right, and I just

578
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 4: think it's his moment now. I think he's gonna embrace

579
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 4: this like, no, y'all, y'all not gonna point the finger

580
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 4: at me. I'm gonna show y'all that I'm worded.

581
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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I'm with you. I

582
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: feel like this can be the year that Oklahoma City

583
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: has hurt all the rumblings and they paid their dues

584
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: and did what they need to do to represent the

585
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Speaker 1: Western Conference. This also could be the last year that

586
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: someone upsets them and moving forward will be their time.

587
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be interesting to see. I'm really excited

588
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: about this playoff. I think there's been a lot of

589
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: complaining about the whole season and what should and shouldn't happen,

590
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: and this is born, then ratings are down. This is

591
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: gonna be a dope ass playoffs. There's a lot of

592
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: intriguing matchups. Obviously, the playing is super entertaining. I've always

593
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,719
Speaker 1: been a fan of the playing because those games are

594
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 1: such high level. But I'm really excited to get these

595
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five playoffs started with the playoffs here, the

596
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: producers put some questions together for us, so I want

597
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,959
Speaker 1: to shoot them to you which player player or player

598
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: is the most important to their team's success this playoffs.

599
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: Here's a couple, guys, I'm gonna throw at you. Kawhi

600
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: Leonard last two months averaging twenty five points, seven rebounds,

601
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: two steals per game on fifty forty three and eighty

602
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: from the strike score thirty three and seven and three

603
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: steals against the Warriors on Sunday to seal the Warriors

604
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,719
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. Cat Bridges and og you know the Knicks,

605
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: we talk about their depth and the new pieces they've received,

606
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: got you know, got a gotta target on their back

607
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: check and j Dupp who's gonna step up? And we

608
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: just talked about who's going to be the second score?

609
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: Anybody come to mind with you?

610
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 4: I would say the young guys from Oklahoma City, Right,

611
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 4: it's really what they do that's gonna determine if Oklahoma

612
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 4: City can get to that conference final.

613
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: In my opinion, Like Kawhi is Kawhi.

614
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 4: We know what he brings when he's healthy, so that's

615
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 4: not necessarily a surprise there. But like if those young guys,

616
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 4: you don't know, because they improve it, if they can

617
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 4: go out and prove themselves, improve their value, they give

618
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 4: Oklahoma City a great opportunity to get to the Western

619
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 4: Conference Final.

620
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on the other side. My pick to

621
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: win it all. I think it's Porzingis and Jayalen Brown.

622
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: Can they be healthy enough to be right there with

623
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: Tatum And I think Tatum's on some redemption shit. He's

624
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: quietly had another great probably first team All NBA type year,

625
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: was fucked up. Was fucked over last summer with the Olympics,

626
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: So that's definitely on his shoulder. Uh, you know, was

627
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: snubbed for Finals MVP, so that's definitely on his shoulder.

628
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: So I know Tatum's mind is locked in well, Jalen

629
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: Brown's health in Porzingis's health allow them to be you

630
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: know that that that that big three duo that I

631
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: feel like they need to repeat. Young breakout stars last

632
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: year was Anthony Edwards. Who do you see as a

633
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: young breakout stars? Is it Williams over and okc or Chet,

634
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: Is it Amen Thompson, Is it Jalen Green, Kde Cunningham Mobiley.

635
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a ton of young stars that are

636
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: you know, really gonna at their teeth this year in

637
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: the playoffs, does anyone jump out to you as someone

638
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,719
Speaker 1: who is going to steal the shine?

639
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

640
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 4: I think Amon Thompson down in Houston. I think he's

641
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 4: so dynamic on both ends.

642
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: Of the floor. He's a freak of nature athletically and

643
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: in the playoffs.

644
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 4: I think his game is kind of built for the physicality,

645
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 4: so I think he's going to have a breakout, you know,

646
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 4: playoff performance. And he's from Fort Lauderdale at the end

647
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 4: of the day, so I'm staying with the home team.

648
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: Wait is he I thought he's from there. I thought

649
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: the Twins are from the Bay.

650
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Speaker 2: Well, they went to high school in Fort Lauderdale.

651
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Speaker 1: Team I don't even know who I want. I mean,

652
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Speaker 1: obviously I'm a big fan of the Twins because I

653
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Speaker 1: got twins.

654
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Speaker 3: I love Kate.

655
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Speaker 1: I just don't think they're gonna get out the first round.

656
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Speaker 1: Obviously going to be someone who has to go a

657
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: couple of different rounds, so you're gonna be able to

658
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:50,479
Speaker 1: see that. So Thompson could be mobiley. But whoever it is,

659
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Speaker 1: I'm really excited for this year's playoffs.

660
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Speaker 3: Kd.

661
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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me, Bro and we.

662
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Speaker 2: Will talk to you.

663
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Speaker 1: So you look at you you look you look good

664
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Speaker 1: today too. If no one tells you, I'm gonna tell you.

665
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Speaker 1: Want to welcome in one of my former classmates, the

666
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: head coach of the UCLA football program, Deshaun foster Man.

667
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.

668
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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I know you came straight from practice today. Announcement We've

670
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: teamed up with you guys for your Friday Night Lights

671
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: that'll be taking place Friday the eighteenth. Doors open at

672
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: five thirty, practice starts at seven. You pitched us an

673
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: idea of Rutger Park for football. This will be your

674
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: second time doing it, if I'm not mistaken. Right second,

675
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: you guys did it last year? How did how did

676
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: last year go? And how are you hoping this year goes?

677
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 3: Last year went great? It went so it was it

678
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 3: was so big and way bigger than we anticipate. That's

679
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 3: why we had to move it to the Drake Stadium,

680
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 3: So moved to Drake. We love just how the fans

681
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 3: came out and the way they were on the field

682
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 3: and just like Rutger you know you right, you can

683
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 3: feel it and that's what I was trying. Now.

684
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you got some I mean you got three

685
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Speaker 1: one oh baby coming out. You got what's what's what's

686
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: the what's the oldude's name that's gonna MC? What's his name?

687
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: Fit will be MC? And what made you? I love

688
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,479
Speaker 1: the move? First of all, I mean, I've always been

689
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: a huge advocate of UCLA, but I've also been frustrated

690
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: from a standpoint that we always go out and get

691
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: outside people when we have a plenty of people that

692
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: have been in our ecosystem that have put the work in,

693
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: that are talented enough to take a position such as yours.

694
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: What did it mean for you to be able to

695
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: come back to somewhere you grew up wanting to go

696
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: at a successful career at UCLA, went on to play pro,

697
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: and now you're back as the head coach of UCLA football.

698
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: What does that mean to you and your family?

699
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Speaker 3: I mean a lot. You know, you really can't put

700
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 3: it in the words just because you're not sure if

701
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 3: it's obtainable or what's going on. But UCLA is doing

702
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 3: a good job. Now are finally, like you said, hiring

703
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 3: from inside m H. And you know other sports are

704
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 3: doing that and hopefully we can just continue to do that.

705
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Speaker 3: But as long as I can continue to be successful,

706
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 3: I think that there the trend to keep going.

707
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Speaker 1: I think you set the tone. You know, we had

708
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: this conversation. I think there's a lot not added pressure,

709
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: but outside because again you're kind of the first homegrown

710
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: higher for a major sports program we've had, Martin. We

711
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: got some other situations coming up soon. This is just

712
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: me talking to you I got some people that know,

713
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: some people that owe some people. We need to have lunch, man,

714
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: we need to sit down and talk. But you know,

715
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: I was super excited when they announced you. You know,

716
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: obviously text I couldn't make the press conference, but again,

717
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: just excited. We came in UC that ninety eight together.

718
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: I saw you put your work in on the field

719
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: and then just a full circle moment to see you

720
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,239
Speaker 1: the head coach and the energy that you bring in,

721
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: the passion you bring and I think now coaching and

722
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. Obviously X and o's will

723
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: always be important, but you relate to these kids.

724
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Speaker 3: That's the number one thing right now. You got to

725
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: be able to relate to these kids because the portal

726
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 3: is something that's every year, and it's twice a year,

727
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So if you can't relate

728
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 3: to these kids and get them to want to come

729
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 3: back or buy in or really be in your program

730
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 3: to develop them, then you're in this business.

731
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Speaker 1: So what is your thoughts? I mean, obviously recruiting isn't

732
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: the way we're recruited obviously changes the whole dynamic. And

733
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: then the portal. You hear college coaches, you know, Hall

734
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: of Fame. College coaches like, hey, we're not really looking

735
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: at excuse me, for basketball, We're not really looking at

736
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: high schoolkids. Don't feel high school kids can help us.

737
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Speaker 1: We're going to jump in the portal. Do you guys

738
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Speaker 1: have a philosophy or a balance on how you approach

739
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: the portal?

740
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 3: And nil, Yeah, we do. You have to. We're bringing

741
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty twenty eight kids per class a little bit,

742
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 3: so it's kind of depending on what your holes are

743
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 3: or where they're at. But if we recruit a high

744
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 3: school kid, we think he's a draft pick, he has

745
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 3: potential to make it to the NFL. If he lets

746
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 3: us develop him, then we have that chance. And then

747
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 3: the portal guy's those free agents. You know, you got

748
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 3: to get in there and get a couple guys because

749
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: some seniors might leave. People leave early, and you got

750
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 3: to plug some holes and fill them early. But you know,

751
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 3: right now, just with the landscape of the business, you know,

752
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 3: I enjoyed. I want these kids to get paid. You know,

753
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 3: we were the number one recruiting class football and basketball

754
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 3: when we came in, so we understand the value of

755
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 3: the school. As long as I can still keep pumping

756
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 3: the school and they understand what you get with coming

757
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 3: with UCLA.

758
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: There's a kid out there, Nico. I don't want to

759
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: butcher his last name, but he goes to Tennessee. I

760
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: heard he left Tennessee. I know he's from so Cal.

761
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: I know you may not be able to talk about

762
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: recruits and names, but every time I've seen anybody post

763
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: on Nico, I've been put in UCLA football.

764
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: You might as well.

765
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: You might as well come on home, man, bring he bring,

766
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: bring your brother with you, bring pops, you know, bring

767
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: the whole family.

768
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 5: Man.

769
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: It's Westwood is a beautiful place, man with a lot

770
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: of perks, and we'll take care of you. This is

771
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: me talking, by the way. I won't get nobody in

772
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: trouble on set, but this is me talking. Your journey

773
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: from done playing to running back coach over at Texas Tech.

774
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: Come back home and you're a running back coach for

775
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: UCLA too, And then when that phone rang to be

776
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: the head coach of the Bruins, talk to us about

777
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: your journey post career. Because a lot of us are

778
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: a lot of players basketball, football, whatever. It may be

779
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 1: kind of struggle when our careers are done and you

780
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: been able to transition into coaching has been your journey,

781
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: and your journey has brought you back home. But what

782
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: is that journey like when you were done playing? And

783
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: how long did it kind of take you to kind

784
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: of get your mojo back and find what's going to

785
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 1: be your second act post NFL.

786
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 3: I came back to school just to finish my degree.

787
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 3: So I wanted to finish my degree. I did that,

788
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 3: and so I came back in twenty twelve. I finished

789
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 3: playing in nine and those last couple of years or so,

790
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 3: twenty ten, eleven twelve, I was kind of just going

791
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 3: to see the homies play whoever was still playing, going

792
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 3: traveling the games and enjoying that. And then you know,

793
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 3: you do promise your mom is you will finish college.

794
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 3: So I had to go back and do that. And

795
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 3: as I was coming back, I was going to be

796
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 3: on campus every day. Bobby Fields, the coach that recruited

797
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 3: me to come to UCLA, was the ad over football,

798
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 3: and he was like, if you're gonna be on campus

799
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 3: every day, come by. I was like, okay. And I

800
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 3: still didn't know if I wanted to coach at that time.

801
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 3: You know, I knew I might have wanted to be

802
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 3: around football, but coaching those hours is different. It's a lot.

803
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 3: It's a lot. So we did that twenty twelve thirteen,

804
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 3: I was an undergrad coach. Twenty fourteen, I was a

805
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 3: GA so my master's for a season. That next year

806
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, I became a player development at UCLA. Then

807
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 3: the twenty sixteen I got the running back job at

808
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 3: Texas Tech and I was mahomes last season. So that's

809
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 3: why I what was he like?

810
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: What was he like in college? Just like he is

811
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs?

812
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 3: Exactly cold. It's just that you don't know if he

813
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 3: can continue to play at the tyrans on the next level.

814
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 3: Is it going to translate to the pros? And you

815
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 3: do it all over again. I know those all those

816
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 3: teams would go back and draft Pas because of all

817
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 3: those quarterback they took perform, no questions.

818
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: Big ten life. I mean we grew up Pac ten

819
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: and it transitioned into Pac twelve. But now Big ten.

820
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: I mean, the travel schedule is probably outrageous, But what

821
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: is I mean, obviously this was a football move for

822
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: our school stuff, So what is that? What is that like?

823
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you're playing some of the biggest names

824
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: in college football. You know, you guys five and seven,

825
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: you guys had a very solid first season, fortant for

826
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: obviously for a first year head coach, but then transitioning

827
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 1: into one of the most powerful football conferences in the country.

828
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: Most definitely as a competitor.

829
00:37:59,080 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: I was.

830
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 3: I was disappoint with our record, but you know, it

831
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 3: was a new conference, new travel, new stadiums, a lot

832
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,959
Speaker 3: of new stuff that a lot of our players haven't

833
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 3: been involved in before. So it was a it was

834
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 3: a different It was a lot of change. But you know,

835
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 3: if you want to be great, you want to play

836
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 3: these big time games. You want to play, if you

837
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 3: want to win end of the season awards and all

838
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 3: of that stuff, you got to play these teams and

839
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 3: you got to be in these type of conferences. So

840
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it.

841
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: Was there any stadium you as kind of the player

842
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: in you that you guys went to this year because

843
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: you we didn't get the good chance to go to

844
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: those kinds of stadiums we're in the pact. Any of

845
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: those things, you're like, God, damn, this is dope.

846
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 3: There was one in conference in one out of conference

847
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,959
Speaker 3: was in state. State got out there. Yeah, we didn't.

848
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 3: I was kind of hoping it was a white out,

849
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 3: but we didn't get that base. It was still live

850
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 3: and then LSU. But I played at LSU during Katrina. Okay,

851
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So we played the Saints

852
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 3: inside it, but it was different. It wasn't rocking the

853
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: way it was this past season.

854
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: Best part about being the U C. L a Half

855
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: football coach.

856
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 3: Best part is just being back at home. You know,

857
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 3: I'm at a university that I can speak for. I'm

858
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 3: a walking blueprint on what this school can do for you,

859
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: and I just try to make sure that my players

860
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 3: understand that. And you know, as long as you're listening

861
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 3: to me and following what our coaching staff can do,

862
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 3: we can get you to your talk.

863
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: Best of luck, new baby. Recently, how has that been?

864
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 1: Is wife you holding? You getting any sleep? How's that going?

865
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 3: I'm leaving the house at four o'clock.

866
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: I see you guys out on the stairs, still dark.

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Speaker 1: At first I looked at the thing, I'm like, heyay,

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Speaker 1: this's motherfucker's dedicated. He's running stairs when it's dark. And

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Speaker 1: then I looked at the time, like, oh shit, this

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Speaker 1: was three hours. This is my fucker's running stairs at

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Speaker 1: four in the morning, five in the morning. Grind, don't stop.

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Speaker 3: But I just try to make sure that if the

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Speaker 3: players can see me doing this, man, you got to

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Speaker 3: see it to believe exactly. That's all it is.

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Speaker 1: Well, congratulations, man, I wish you the best of luck.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy that we're obviously partnering for Friday and night Lights,

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Speaker 1: but obviously a bigger partnerships are in conversation and Nico

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Speaker 1: be waiting on you, bro, come fuck with us. Appreciate you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: make sure you guys go check out the latest episode

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Speaker 1: of Art of War with my brother andre Ward with

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Speaker 1: his latest guest, Lamont Roach. Here's a clip. Take a look.

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Speaker 3: What was your read on your Vonte going into the

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Speaker 3: fight him personally?

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Speaker 5: I think he doubt hisself. Hell of a talent, hell

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Speaker 5: of a puncher, super super super good accuracy. I think

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Speaker 5: that's what leads to the most of his knockouts, honestly.

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Speaker 5: But he doubt his helf and he been doing that

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Speaker 5: since a kid. Some you know, that's just something I know.

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Speaker 5: So that played the that played a little a little

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Speaker 5: bit into the into the fight. I think when especially

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Speaker 5: when there's not a lot of animosity, cause you gotta

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Speaker 5: think a lot of people he fought, they just have

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Speaker 5: differences so that they be into it or whatever the

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Speaker 5: case may be. I don't got no problem with him,

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Speaker 5: and he don't got no problem with me. So I

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Speaker 5: think he was trying to find something to boost his

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Speaker 5: morale or get him going, or whatever the case may be.

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Speaker 5: And he tried to, like like the betting me that

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Speaker 5: he gonna knock me out and stuff like that. That

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Speaker 5: they didn't go too too well for him.

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Speaker 3: Did y'all bet? Oh? We bet?

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Speaker 5: And we sugar on it.

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Speaker 3: He changed his number? Got that chip? Hey? Got that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Got that chip? He changes number slim yeah.

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Speaker 2: Hm.

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Speaker 5: So you know, but that'd be a conversation for another day.

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Speaker 1: That's a wrap for this week's show. You can catch

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Speaker 1: this episode on All the Smoke Productions YouTube and the

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Speaker 1: DraftKings Network. We'll see y'all next week.