WEBVTT - Leading Off: Is Jared Jones a Fantasy ACE? (Ep. 1354) 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:05.920 What's going on? 0:00:05.960 --> 0:00:06.400 Everybody. 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:09.280 Welcome into Fantasy Pros. This is leading off live the 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:12.840 Fantasy Baseball Podcast. I'm your host, Joe Rico, joined today 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:15.840 by cac Bubba, and we have a packed outline to 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:18.840 get to lots of cool baseball news and notes. I 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:21.079 said the other day when we were leaving the show 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:22.880 that I hope we don't have a big injury report. 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:25.680 Well we have an even bigger one than the last show, Bubba. 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:28.720 We also have a couple of cool pieces of Giants news, 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:30.639 but a little bit of Giants trivia later to get to. 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:31.960 So really excited for this one. 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:35.080 How you doing, my friend, I'm doing well, doing well. Yeah, 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:38.040 it's been a rough go in the Fantasy baseball injury 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:40.279 streets is the best way I could put it of late. 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:43.000 But you and I I think we're closer to one 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:44.360 hundred percent than most of them are. 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:48.519 Yeah, well, I would certainly hope, so definitely going to 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:50.400 get to that later on in the show. But we 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:52.800 have a trade to get to off the top. It's 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:55.000 not the most exciting trade in the world, but there 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:58.320 was a trade last night. Logan o'hoppy is now a 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:00.320 member of the Texas Rangers. He was traded along with 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:02.840 Chase Silseth last night in exchange for a prospect, and 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:06.760 then Logan Ohappy immediately was optioned to triple A Baba 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:09.080 perfect that you are here as the catcher guy, Logan 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:12.440 o'happy has had a little bit of an interesting career trajectory. 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:14.720 After twenty twenty three looked like he was going to 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:16.759 be a pretty good fantasy asset, had a pretty good 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:18.440 twenty twenty four, and then each of the last two 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:21.480 seasons have been very, very disappointing for him. He's hitting 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.720 just two oh nine four homers in seventy five games 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:27.520 with a fifty nine WRC plus. What do you make 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:29.280 of this trade? I mean, I feel like it's a 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:31.800 good opportunity for the Rangers to buy low here and 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.600 potentially turn o'happy around. But as the catcher guy, what 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:35.400 do you think of this deal? 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:38.200 It made me laugh quite a bit because at first 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:40.480 he got o'happy and Silseth going for a guy that 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:42.880 wasn't even a top thirty prospect in the Rangers system. 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:45.560 So it's like, Okay, something's fishy on this one, and 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:47.960 then you see o'happy an option right away when the 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:50.360 Rangers have their two starting catchers on the IL, and 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:53.120 Danny Jansen just gets moved to the sixty day IL 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:55.520 as one of the option. You're shit, They're going, what's 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.760 going on here? And I get it. O'hapy has struggled 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:00.720 quite a bit over last Year's a lot of it, 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:03.280 I will say, is injury related. That's that's part of it. 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:05.240 He's only twenty six years old. Is he going to 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:07.280 be the beast we thought he would be at one 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:10.120 point in time? Probably not, But I think he's also 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:12.080 better than this, So maybe he gets clicking and Triple 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:14.399 A gets his confidence up. They bring him up because 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:16.720 let's just be honest, it's Elias Diaz right now. You 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:20.000 can probably do better than that, and it's just it's 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:21.960 logan to hop he's probably the best option they have. 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:24.040 That's the nicest way I can put it right now. 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:27.120 But yeah, him getting an option within like minutes of 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:29.880 it happening and just seeing the whole deal, I guess, 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:33.359 like my takeaway is it's interesting because now the Rangers, 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:37.200 the first place at al West Texas Rangers, let that 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:40.320 sink in for two seconds, is a buyer at the 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:42.560 moment because they went and bought Chase Silseth. 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:45.400 I guess, I mean, I don't. 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:45.679 I know. 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:47.680 It's that's the best way I can sugarcoat it. 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:52.680 I mean, I would take the Rangers side here. I 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.600 would rather have o'hapi and sil Seth, especially if you're 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.160 making a push as opposed to get the name of 0:02:58.200 --> 0:02:59.960 the prospect. Like you said, he's not a terribly high 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:02.440 ranked prospect. Game Ov was saying, this is Mike Napoli 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:06.560 all over again. Mike Napoli had a pretty decent stretch 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.760 of productivity there that o'happy hasn't met yet. I think 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.400 o'hapy could have a Napoli type of ceiling where he's 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:14.360 a thirty home run guy. He hits two thirty two 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:18.160 forty and is a really productive catcher. Doesn't look so 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:20.600 as of today, but we'll see what happens. Do you 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:22.840 expect how soon would you expect Ohapy to be back 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:23.359 with the big. 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:27.200 Club, Bubba? I think after he has maybe three or 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:30.440 four games of hitting relatively well. To me, it just 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:32.760 feels like a pure confidence boost. That's all this is 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:36.400 right now. But the other thing is maybe he needs 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.600 to be in a part time platoon because the Angels 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:42.920 played him all the time hurt not hurting day he 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.920 was the primary catcher with the capitol p and maybe 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:49.040 a sixty forty seventy thirty split couldn't hurt the guy. 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:53.120 We got a question, actually that does involve a catcher, 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.520 So let's bring that up real quick. My league's deadline 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:58.000 is today, and a lot of leagues they're rapidly approaching, 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:00.720 if they haven't already passed. I lost Shaneers and I'm 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:05.040 running Carter Jensen as my catcher. Chapman is my only closer, 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.760 and I was offered Ben Rice and Cad Smith for 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:09.880 my jord and Alvarez. Would you take that or keep 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.320 Jordon and grab a closer and or catcher that emerges 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:16.840 from the wire. Value wise, it it feels all right 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:19.400 from a value perspective. Rice has been a top ten 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:23.440 ish type of player this year. Haid has been probably 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:25.720 the top three closer at worst. I think he leaves 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.240 the league in saves. But Jordon is going to walk 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:30.320 to the American League MVP this year. Where do you 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:30.720 lean on that? 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:30.960 PUBB? 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:31.920 But it feels pretty even to. 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:34.720 Me, It's very even. I actually love the trade. If 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:38.279 you want to bolster, like adding kid to Chapman gives 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:40.120 you a heck of a one two punch in closing. 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:43.720 My question is like Jensen's just fine, So is right? 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:46.880 Could Rice play first place? Utility? CI A lot of 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:50.480 formatting questions there, but I honestly think it's a fine 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:52.840 I know Jordon's running away with it. Maybe might get 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:54.400 a triple crown frow, you know, when things are all 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:57.520 said and done, Rice isn't that far off. Like, I 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:59.160 think this is a great move if you want to 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:01.080 go for the ship, and I'm guessing it's head to 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:02.720 head up as a deadline approaching. 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.839 Yeah, I mean Lee saying in the chat Rice have 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:07.920 catcher eligibility. 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:09.040 He should. 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.320 I believe he has it in every format this year. 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:12.880 He won't have it next year, but he should have 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.400 it for now. And Lee, I still haven't forgiven you 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:18.159 quite yet for comparing me to Jimothy the Raccoon on stream. 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:20.200 You say just because I wasn't here doesn't me and 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:23.520 I didn't see it. Maybe I did appreciate the bit though. 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.160 We did have some fun in the live stream as well. 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:25.560 Yesday. 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:27.120 If you guys missed it, Welsh and I did a 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:28.920 live stream yes, so you can check it out. On 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:31.320 the YouTube page under the live tab. We had a 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:33.240 lot of fun there, but something else was kind of 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.000 fun when we were putting the sheet together last night. 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:37.080 This wasn't there, but something we woke up to this morning. 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:40.159 Max Clark has been called up by the Detroit Tigers 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.719 and he will be making his major league debut. What 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:44.640 he's done over the course of eighty nine mind the 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:47.040 league games this year is pretty impressive. He has ten homers, 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:49.840 twenty one steals, hitting two seventy seven with a three 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:52.200 to sixty eight on base rate and a one fifteen 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:55.520 WRC plus. The thing with Max Clark is the power 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:57.320 I think is a little bit in question here. He 0:05:57.360 --> 0:05:59.719 only has a four percent barrel at triple A, thirty 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.200 seven percent heart hit rate, eighty eight mile an hour 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:04.680 average exit velocity. They don't really jump off the page 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:07.880 U specifically as a triple A numbers. I think if 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.200 you need some speed, you can add Max Clark here, 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:11.920 and people have compared it to maybe like an aj 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:15.560 Ewing type of performance we might get. I'm not sure 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:18.200 he's a must add across all formats the way that 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:20.120 I've seen him talked about, though, What do you think 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:23.200 Buba would you be adding Max Clark regardless of format. 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:26.000 I'd be pretty excited. I don't know if it's regardless, 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:30.159 but you got Max Clark catted into Sacramento for his debut, 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:32.200 which is a plus for the weeks. If you're in 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:34.440 daily leagues, that's awesome. Obviously, if you're in weekly we'll 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.680 find out on Sunday how that pans out. The other 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:39.920 factor is, yeah, the overall season numbers don't like great 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:42.480 for Max Clark, but since July first, he's played eighteen games, 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:46.400 three forty three, four homers, four steals over those eighteen games, 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:48.960 maybe coming into his own. He's also walking eighteen percent 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.359 of the time while striking out sixteen percent with a 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:55.160 one point six seven w or ops one eighty four 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:58.440 WRC plus. So picking things up as the season has 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.839 gone along for a twenty one year old, which I love. 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:05.440 And secondly, if people love the swag factor that PCA 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:08.480 brings to the Diamond, let me introduce you to Max 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:12.160 Clark because there's more gold chains than gold teeth on 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.120 this man, because he's got a lot of them, So 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:16.800 be prepared for that in Detroit and he should play 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:17.520 almost every day. 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:20.720 Weirdly enough, Yeah, He's a guy that the old heads 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:22.840 generally have not been a fan of from the tweets 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:25.160 that I've seen going around Twitter the last couple of years, 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:27.640 but I've also seen a few interviews with Max, Clark 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:29.480 and Welsh and I talked about this maybe a month 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:31.480 ago or so on the show. I think I was 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:33.200 actually right around the Futures Game that he's a guy 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:36.680 who really does seem to be pretty intelligent when it 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:40.600 comes to the advanced stats side of things and learning 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:43.960 in the modern game. He does seem to be pretty cerebral, 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:45.960 and I think he's a guy that will grow into 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:48.600 a better hitter than even what we've seen, just based 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:50.080 on the fact that he seems willing to learn, and 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:51.960 there are some players not a lot. I think most 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:54.080 players these days are pretty forward thinking with the stats, 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:57.280 but he is embracing the analytical side, which I really 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:02.600 do like. Fab estimate on Max Kla It really depends 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:04.480 what he does over the next couple of days, but 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:08.679 I would imagine under one hundred, like in the eighty 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:11.480 to one hundred range, probably based on the hype alone. 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:12.960 What do you think depends on how much money people 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:15.400 have left, But I think the Max bids maybe around 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:15.800 one hundred. 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:18.800 He shouldn't have that much left. I think, like as Max, 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:20.440 he might find a couple hundreds out there, but I 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:22.200 think on average, he's gonna go from like twenty to 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:25.480 thirty bucks from what we've seen the last couple of weeks. 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:27.920 Like heck, I got as Rulina Valdez like three weeks 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:30.680 ago before he went hot for like anywhere from fifteen 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:33.080 to twenty five dollars. So like people are gonna like 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.240 Max Clark, don't get me wrong, like they're gonna spend 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:37.839 money on him. But like we're looking at an average bid. 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:39.960 I'm in the twenty to thirty dollars range. But there 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:41.280 might be someone in your league with a lot of 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.520 money left over that wakes up and goes, wow, let's 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:44.520 get the shiny new toy. 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:46.520 Yeah, we might see it. I remember a few years 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:48.240 ago when Ellie de la Cruz got called up in 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:51.160 my I think it was TGFBI league, nobody had spent 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.199 any money or that person hadn't spent any money, and 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:55.439 then put a nine hundred and ninety eight dollars bid 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:57.200 on Ellie de la Cruz. So you might see something 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:00.680 crazy like that. Happen game ov a resubb appreciate that. 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:03.080 And then CCD Goalie hit a twenty stream streak. We 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:05.679 really do appreciate that. 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Let's get to 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:34.160 Jesus Lozardo and I said it on the show I 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:35.959 did with air Cross about a week and a half 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:38.200 ago that it felt like Hazes Lozardo was kind of 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:40.480 due for a bit of a blow up because he 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:42.680 tends to do this. He'll have four or five really 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:44.679 good starts in a row and then there's a bad one. 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:46.640 And to his credit, it had been a while since 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:49.600 his previous stinker. It was early June, but yesterday against Miami, 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:53.119 six earned runs, three walks over his six and the third. 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:56.560 And I really don't know what to make a hazus Azardro. 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:58.120 I see a lot of people put him in the 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:01.240 elite pitcher category, but can consdering how often these blow 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:05.160 ups happened. The whips still not amazing. I'm not sure 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:08.199 I would put him into that elite tier of starting pitchers. Bobba, 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.400 what do you think about Hazu Sozardo, which just feels 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:11.920 like the blow ups come a little bit too often 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:12.160 for me? 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.280 Uh, For I guess I'm a hazel a sizar to stand, 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:18.920 so I'm gonna fight back on this one a little bit. 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:19.480 Uh. 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:23.040 I want to know what you consider often, because before 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:25.319 yesterday it was eight starts. Since May first, it's happened 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:27.640 three times. Otherwise it's been two run rods or lessons. 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:30.080 May first, he has a two point eight sixty IRA 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:33.760 over sixteen starts, which to me plays pretty well with 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:37.839 a three two five sierra and twenty one point four 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.560 percent K to walk, so I am more than happy 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:42.920 with it. And also I was very annoyed by the 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:46.319 management in Philadelphia. Mister Don Maddingly, former Dodger for those 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:50.280 keeping track at home, he uh, he left him out 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:51.880 their way too long. He shouldn't even have been out 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:54.120 there in the seventh inning. He was already approaching ninety pitches, 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:56.440 velocity was going down. Like we've seen a lot of 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:58.960 this lately with these managers. They leave guys out there 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:01.280 one inning too long and bow ups. Here we are 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:03.080 so having to Jake Bennett the other night, I think 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:06.040 you've blown up but ruined a really great start. So yeah, 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:09.040 Lizardo should have left with six innings. I think one 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.480 earned run and no one would be talking about today. 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:14.640 That is probably fair. And as somebody who didn't see 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.520 the game, that is good context. Just looking at last year, 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:20.080 there was the two like biblical blow ups, the twelve 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:21.960 and runs in the eight earned runs, and there's three 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:25.160 other starts of at least five, And looking at this season, 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:28.400 there's one, two, three, four, five, six starts of at 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:29.680 least five earned runs. 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:31.560 We were in April when he was tipping pictures. 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:34.600 This is that again, also your point. And maybe I'm 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:36.480 just a hater. Maybe I've just been burned by him 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.199 in drafts too many times. I wonder though, heading into 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:41.640 next year, are these you know type of blow up 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.599 outings something you would ignore and you'd look more towards 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:48.000 what I would usually look at, the expected numbers of 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.520 strikeout to walk rates. Are we willing to look past 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:53.200 those blow ups for Lozardo and draft season? Like will 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:54.880 he be an sp one and your rankings? You think 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:57.679 he'll be pretty close? Like I had him just outside 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:00.680 of it in my Vegas auction. He was my sp 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:02.360 one because prices were crazy, so I got him for 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:04.880 like a low twenty dollars auction value and built my 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:05.520 team around that. 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:09.120 He basically goes in that. He's just right around or 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:11.720 right behind like a Chris sale for me. But that's 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:14.080 where the prices and ADP had him this last year. 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.320 I don't think he falters that far from that. To 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:19.120 be totally honest, Okay, I might just be a hater. 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:21.959 I might just be No, you're not alone, because I 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:23.840 get pushed back on it a lot. But I just 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:25.839 I look at the strikeout up side, and then if 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.360 we talk underlying metrics, it gets a three five seventy 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:30.800 area on the entire season, including those April blow ups, 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:33.160 and it's still like around a three Sierra, Like he's 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:34.600 still very very good Pitcher. 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.080 That's a good point, and honestly is a good point, 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:39.800 and I probably need to reevaluate that if he gets 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:41.839 blown up in his first start of the season next year, though, 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:43.959 I will be on Twitter complaining about it like I used. 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:45.720 Well, probably get blown up his next start after its 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:48.120 defended him on on air to everybody. 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:51.600 Sixer and runs inn't coming next time out for Lozardo. 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:53.760 But no, he's better than I give him credit for. 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:55.199 He is better than I give him credit for. I 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:57.839 must admit a guy who is probably worse than we 0:12:57.880 --> 0:12:59.960 give him credit for. But he's having an amazing season 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:02.800 and is said Bardo Rodriguez, I don't know how he's 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:05.600 doing this, but he did it again yesterday, eight innings 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:08.480 of shutout ball, allowing just five hits and striking out 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:10.600 two against the Pirates. For the season as a whole, 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:14.560 two forty eight era, the whip is at one twenty one. 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:18.040 But EDWARDO Rodriguez, it's been unbelievable this year. It's twenty 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:20.760 two starts. I wrote a cell high piece in April 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.240 and we are twenty two starts in and it's still 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.040 not coming to here. So I mean, you, guys, if 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:29.280 you're watching live, you can see the savant page. It's 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.680 not everything. They obviously have to look deeper, but the 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:34.320 savant page is as blue as the ocean. So what 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:36.760 do we make of EDWARDO. Rodriguez? You know we're talking 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.120 about trade deadlines approaching in fantasy leagues. If you can 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:40.760 move him today, would you be trying to do it 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:42.520 or would you just hold on at this point? 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.319 Well, Joe, have you seen the movies? Now you see me? 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:48.680 Now you don't that they're making a fourth one scene. 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:50.640 It's about the twenty twenty six at water or Atrigaz 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:54.880 baseball season, and it's just a magician basically out there 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:56.640 and we can't figure it out because I'm with you, 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:58.360 like I watch him and I've been an e rot 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:01.280 guy for years. First year I haven't backed him up. 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.560 Here you go and he's going off. But it's so 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:07.240 frustrating because it's a profile I hate. He's not striking 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:08.640 out a lot of guys. It's a ton of pitch 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:12.040 to contact. He's not dominating in any way, shape or form. 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:16.040 Everything under the hood suggest not a good pitcher. Like 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:17.960 he has a six k per knight on the season, 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:22.560 six six k per knight that is horrific. He's just 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:25.520 you know, you limit soft your hard come. It's like, 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.560 this is nineteen eighties. Pitching is what this is, and 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:30.600 you're you're seeing it on this this era, So it's 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:33.320 hard for us to wrap our heads around. The blow 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:36.120 up is going to be legendary when it happens. But 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:38.600 I tip my cap and you just start him every 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:40.680 time out now and you just go like, Okay, this 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:42.440 is great. I'm playing with house money and see where 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:44.960 it goes. It was only trade him if you can, 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.960 yes to your original question. Sorry, trade him immediately, if 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:49.960 you can package him, if you have to, like sweeten 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:51.320 the deal, but trade him. Yes. 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.560 He's allowed more than five and runs just one time 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:56.280 this year, and it happened just two starts to go 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:59.280 against Saint Louis. Other than that, it's been just one 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:02.400 of those incredible pure seasons. Even four in runs has 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.080 only happened three times. We're talking twenty two starts in 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:08.480 an eighteen of them three or fewer runs, and almost 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:11.040 all of them it's zero or one. Like, it's just 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.680 been an incredible season from him. I wonder if he 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:16.200 gets some back end. Cy Young votes ten wins as well, 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:19.640 But God, this is the baseball world, right You just 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:21.600 never really know what's going to happen. There are a 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:25.440 lot of unpredictable things, and Edward Rodriguez having the season 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.360 that he is is definitely among them. Jared Jones, the 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.280 cover boy, I want to get to him because he 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:32.960 went six innings yesterday, allowed three runs on four hits 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:35.240 while striking out five. It probably doesn't feel like the 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:39.920 most insane line, but Jared Jones since he returned, I mean, 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.840 everybody was super worried about what he was going to do, 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:46.360 and you know, first year, coming back from a surgery, 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:50.200 blah blah blah. Over the last month, Jared Jones, as 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:52.440 I pull it up here, great radio a two ERA 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.480 and a point six y three whip with thirty three 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:58.000 strikeouts in his twenty seven innings over his fifty two 0:15:58.000 --> 0:15:59.960 innings as a whole this year to three eighty one 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:02.280 e in a one zero two whip. But as of late, 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.280 he's unhittable. Nobody's getting on base against him. He's just 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:07.960 been phenomenal. And I wonder if we're in the realm 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:09.320 again where we were a couple of years ago, where 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:11.560 Jared Jones, is he an ace like we thought he 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:13.840 was gonna be before the injury. Bubba. 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.280 I think he's got these qualities for sure, like Skens 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:19.920 will always be that ace in Pittsburgh. But he's a 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.560 heck of a one B in that situation. And that's 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:24.320 why a lot of us liked him last year. He 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:25.880 got hurt, and a lot of us were very excited 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.440 for him to return this year and Pittsburgh's you know, 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:31.120 using kids' gloves. And he's still been this effective because 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.520 even yesterday or it's been four straight starts at least 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.800 five and he's three starts of six, still only seventy 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:39.080 seven pitches, insanely efficient. He threw eighty three pitches in 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:41.560 his last it is not yesterday able to start before that, 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:45.000 that's the most he's thrown all season. They've really really 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:47.760 kept the tight leash on his workload, which I wonder 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:49.680 if they're just what they're saving him for, maybe for 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:52.400 next year. But he continues to get better and better 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:56.040 every start. He's just dominating the opponents via the strikeout 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:58.120 of the swing and miss, and I'm with you, this 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:01.600 guy is very, very very good. And I think that 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:04.960 it will also lead to some interesting skiings discussions next year. 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.560