Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 2: Everybody.
Speaker 1: Welcome into Fantasy Pros. This is leading off live the
Speaker 1: Fantasy Baseball Podcast. I'm your host, Joe Rico, joined today
Speaker 1: by cac Bubba, and we have a packed outline to
Speaker 1: get to lots of cool baseball news and notes. I
Speaker 1: said the other day when we were leaving the show
Speaker 1: that I hope we don't have a big injury report.
Speaker 1: Well we have an even bigger one than the last show, Bubba.
Speaker 1: We also have a couple of cool pieces of Giants news,
Speaker 1: but a little bit of Giants trivia later to get to.
Speaker 1: So really excited for this one.
Speaker 2: How you doing, my friend, I'm doing well, doing well. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's been a rough go in the Fantasy baseball injury
Speaker 2: streets is the best way I could put it of late.
Speaker 2: But you and I I think we're closer to one
Speaker 2: hundred percent than most of them are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I would certainly hope, so definitely going to
Speaker 1: get to that later on in the show. But we
Speaker 1: have a trade to get to off the top. It's
Speaker 1: not the most exciting trade in the world, but there
Speaker 1: was a trade last night. Logan o'hoppy is now a
Speaker 1: member of the Texas Rangers. He was traded along with
Speaker 1: Chase Silseth last night in exchange for a prospect, and
Speaker 1: then Logan Ohappy immediately was optioned to triple A Baba
Speaker 1: perfect that you are here as the catcher guy, Logan
Speaker 1: o'happy has had a little bit of an interesting career trajectory.
Speaker 1: After twenty twenty three looked like he was going to
Speaker 1: be a pretty good fantasy asset, had a pretty good
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, and then each of the last two
Speaker 1: seasons have been very, very disappointing for him. He's hitting
Speaker 1: just two oh nine four homers in seventy five games
Speaker 1: with a fifty nine WRC plus. What do you make
Speaker 1: of this trade? I mean, I feel like it's a
Speaker 1: good opportunity for the Rangers to buy low here and
Speaker 1: potentially turn o'happy around. But as the catcher guy, what
Speaker 1: do you think of this deal?
Speaker 2: It made me laugh quite a bit because at first
Speaker 2: he got o'happy and Silseth going for a guy that
Speaker 2: wasn't even a top thirty prospect in the Rangers system.
Speaker 2: So it's like, Okay, something's fishy on this one, and
Speaker 2: then you see o'happy an option right away when the
Speaker 2: Rangers have their two starting catchers on the IL, and
Speaker 2: Danny Jansen just gets moved to the sixty day IL
Speaker 2: as one of the option. You're shit, They're going, what's
Speaker 2: going on here? And I get it. O'hapy has struggled
Speaker 2: quite a bit over last Year's a lot of it,
Speaker 2: I will say, is injury related. That's that's part of it.
Speaker 2: He's only twenty six years old. Is he going to
Speaker 2: be the beast we thought he would be at one
Speaker 2: point in time? Probably not, But I think he's also
Speaker 2: better than this, So maybe he gets clicking and Triple
Speaker 2: A gets his confidence up. They bring him up because
Speaker 2: let's just be honest, it's Elias Diaz right now. You
Speaker 2: can probably do better than that, and it's just it's
Speaker 2: logan to hop he's probably the best option they have.
Speaker 2: That's the nicest way I can put it right now.
Speaker 2: But yeah, him getting an option within like minutes of
Speaker 2: it happening and just seeing the whole deal, I guess,
Speaker 2: like my takeaway is it's interesting because now the Rangers,
Speaker 2: the first place at al West Texas Rangers, let that
Speaker 2: sink in for two seconds, is a buyer at the
Speaker 2: moment because they went and bought Chase Silseth.
Speaker 1: I guess, I mean, I don't.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: It's that's the best way I can sugarcoat it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I would take the Rangers side here. I
Speaker 1: would rather have o'hapi and sil Seth, especially if you're
Speaker 1: making a push as opposed to get the name of
Speaker 1: the prospect. Like you said, he's not a terribly high
Speaker 1: ranked prospect. Game Ov was saying, this is Mike Napoli
Speaker 1: all over again. Mike Napoli had a pretty decent stretch
Speaker 1: of productivity there that o'happy hasn't met yet. I think
Speaker 1: o'hapy could have a Napoli type of ceiling where he's
Speaker 1: a thirty home run guy. He hits two thirty two
Speaker 1: forty and is a really productive catcher. Doesn't look so
Speaker 1: as of today, but we'll see what happens. Do you
Speaker 1: expect how soon would you expect Ohapy to be back
Speaker 1: with the big.
Speaker 2: Club, Bubba? I think after he has maybe three or
Speaker 2: four games of hitting relatively well. To me, it just
Speaker 2: feels like a pure confidence boost. That's all this is
Speaker 2: right now. But the other thing is maybe he needs
Speaker 2: to be in a part time platoon because the Angels
Speaker 2: played him all the time hurt not hurting day he
Speaker 2: was the primary catcher with the capitol p and maybe
Speaker 2: a sixty forty seventy thirty split couldn't hurt the guy.
Speaker 1: We got a question, actually that does involve a catcher,
Speaker 1: So let's bring that up real quick. My league's deadline
Speaker 1: is today, and a lot of leagues they're rapidly approaching,
Speaker 1: if they haven't already passed. I lost Shaneers and I'm
Speaker 1: running Carter Jensen as my catcher. Chapman is my only closer,
Speaker 1: and I was offered Ben Rice and Cad Smith for
Speaker 1: my jord and Alvarez. Would you take that or keep
Speaker 1: Jordon and grab a closer and or catcher that emerges
Speaker 1: from the wire. Value wise, it it feels all right
Speaker 1: from a value perspective. Rice has been a top ten
Speaker 1: ish type of player this year. Haid has been probably
Speaker 1: the top three closer at worst. I think he leaves
Speaker 1: the league in saves. But Jordon is going to walk
Speaker 1: to the American League MVP this year. Where do you
Speaker 1: lean on that?
Speaker 2: PUBB?
Speaker 1: But it feels pretty even to.
Speaker 2: Me, It's very even. I actually love the trade. If
Speaker 2: you want to bolster, like adding kid to Chapman gives
Speaker 2: you a heck of a one two punch in closing.
Speaker 2: My question is like Jensen's just fine, So is right?
Speaker 2: Could Rice play first place? Utility? CI A lot of
Speaker 2: formatting questions there, but I honestly think it's a fine
Speaker 2: I know Jordon's running away with it. Maybe might get
Speaker 2: a triple crown frow, you know, when things are all
Speaker 2: said and done, Rice isn't that far off. Like, I
Speaker 2: think this is a great move if you want to
Speaker 2: go for the ship, and I'm guessing it's head to
Speaker 2: head up as a deadline approaching.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Lee saying in the chat Rice have
Speaker 1: catcher eligibility.
Speaker 2: He should.
Speaker 1: I believe he has it in every format this year.
Speaker 1: He won't have it next year, but he should have
Speaker 1: it for now. And Lee, I still haven't forgiven you
Speaker 1: quite yet for comparing me to Jimothy the Raccoon on stream.
Speaker 1: You say just because I wasn't here doesn't me and
Speaker 1: I didn't see it. Maybe I did appreciate the bit though.
Speaker 1: We did have some fun in the live stream as well.
Speaker 2: Yesday.
Speaker 1: If you guys missed it, Welsh and I did a
Speaker 1: live stream yes, so you can check it out. On
Speaker 1: the YouTube page under the live tab. We had a
Speaker 1: lot of fun there, but something else was kind of
Speaker 1: fun when we were putting the sheet together last night.
Speaker 1: This wasn't there, but something we woke up to this morning.
Speaker 1: Max Clark has been called up by the Detroit Tigers
Speaker 1: and he will be making his major league debut. What
Speaker 1: he's done over the course of eighty nine mind the
Speaker 1: league games this year is pretty impressive. He has ten homers,
Speaker 1: twenty one steals, hitting two seventy seven with a three
Speaker 1: to sixty eight on base rate and a one fifteen
Speaker 1: WRC plus. The thing with Max Clark is the power
Speaker 1: I think is a little bit in question here. He
Speaker 1: only has a four percent barrel at triple A, thirty
Speaker 1: seven percent heart hit rate, eighty eight mile an hour
Speaker 1: average exit velocity. They don't really jump off the page
Speaker 1: U specifically as a triple A numbers. I think if
Speaker 1: you need some speed, you can add Max Clark here,
Speaker 1: and people have compared it to maybe like an aj
Speaker 1: Ewing type of performance we might get. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: he's a must add across all formats the way that
Speaker 1: I've seen him talked about, though, What do you think
Speaker 1: Buba would you be adding Max Clark regardless of format.
Speaker 2: I'd be pretty excited. I don't know if it's regardless,
Speaker 2: but you got Max Clark catted into Sacramento for his debut,
Speaker 2: which is a plus for the weeks. If you're in
Speaker 2: daily leagues, that's awesome. Obviously, if you're in weekly we'll
Speaker 2: find out on Sunday how that pans out. The other
Speaker 2: factor is, yeah, the overall season numbers don't like great
Speaker 2: for Max Clark, but since July first, he's played eighteen games,
Speaker 2: three forty three, four homers, four steals over those eighteen games,
Speaker 2: maybe coming into his own. He's also walking eighteen percent
Speaker 2: of the time while striking out sixteen percent with a
Speaker 2: one point six seven w or ops one eighty four
Speaker 2: WRC plus. So picking things up as the season has
Speaker 2: gone along for a twenty one year old, which I love.
Speaker 2: And secondly, if people love the swag factor that PCA
Speaker 2: brings to the Diamond, let me introduce you to Max
Speaker 2: Clark because there's more gold chains than gold teeth on
Speaker 2: this man, because he's got a lot of them, So
Speaker 2: be prepared for that in Detroit and he should play
Speaker 2: almost every day.
Speaker 1: Weirdly enough, Yeah, He's a guy that the old heads
Speaker 1: generally have not been a fan of from the tweets
Speaker 1: that I've seen going around Twitter the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: but I've also seen a few interviews with Max, Clark
Speaker 1: and Welsh and I talked about this maybe a month
Speaker 1: ago or so on the show. I think I was
Speaker 1: actually right around the Futures Game that he's a guy
Speaker 1: who really does seem to be pretty intelligent when it
Speaker 1: comes to the advanced stats side of things and learning
Speaker 1: in the modern game. He does seem to be pretty cerebral,
Speaker 1: and I think he's a guy that will grow into
Speaker 1: a better hitter than even what we've seen, just based
Speaker 1: on the fact that he seems willing to learn, and
Speaker 1: there are some players not a lot. I think most
Speaker 1: players these days are pretty forward thinking with the stats,
Speaker 1: but he is embracing the analytical side, which I really
Speaker 1: do like. Fab estimate on Max Kla It really depends
Speaker 1: what he does over the next couple of days, but
Speaker 1: I would imagine under one hundred, like in the eighty
Speaker 1: to one hundred range, probably based on the hype alone.
Speaker 1: What do you think depends on how much money people
Speaker 1: have left, But I think the Max bids maybe around
Speaker 1: one hundred.
Speaker 2: He shouldn't have that much left. I think, like as Max,
Speaker 2: he might find a couple hundreds out there, but I
Speaker 2: think on average, he's gonna go from like twenty to
Speaker 2: thirty bucks from what we've seen the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: Like heck, I got as Rulina Valdez like three weeks
Speaker 2: ago before he went hot for like anywhere from fifteen
Speaker 2: to twenty five dollars. So like people are gonna like
Speaker 2: Max Clark, don't get me wrong, like they're gonna spend
Speaker 2: money on him. But like we're looking at an average bid.
Speaker 2: I'm in the twenty to thirty dollars range. But there
Speaker 2: might be someone in your league with a lot of
Speaker 2: money left over that wakes up and goes, wow, let's
Speaker 2: get the shiny new toy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we might see it. I remember a few years
Speaker 1: ago when Ellie de la Cruz got called up in
Speaker 1: my I think it was TGFBI league, nobody had spent
Speaker 1: any money or that person hadn't spent any money, and
Speaker 1: then put a nine hundred and ninety eight dollars bid
Speaker 1: on Ellie de la Cruz. So you might see something
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Speaker 1: guys are on the lookout for that. Let's get to
Speaker 1: Jesus Lozardo and I said it on the show I
Speaker 1: did with air Cross about a week and a half
Speaker 1: ago that it felt like Hazes Lozardo was kind of
Speaker 1: due for a bit of a blow up because he
Speaker 1: tends to do this. He'll have four or five really
Speaker 1: good starts in a row and then there's a bad one.
Speaker 1: And to his credit, it had been a while since
Speaker 1: his previous stinker. It was early June, but yesterday against Miami,
Speaker 1: six earned runs, three walks over his six and the third.
Speaker 2: And I really don't know what to make a hazus Azardro.
Speaker 1: I see a lot of people put him in the
Speaker 1: elite pitcher category, but can consdering how often these blow
Speaker 1: ups happened. The whips still not amazing. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: I would put him into that elite tier of starting pitchers. Bobba,
Speaker 1: what do you think about Hazu Sozardo, which just feels
Speaker 1: like the blow ups come a little bit too often
Speaker 1: for me?
Speaker 2: Uh, For I guess I'm a hazel a sizar to stand,
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna fight back on this one a little bit.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I want to know what you consider often, because before
Speaker 2: yesterday it was eight starts. Since May first, it's happened
Speaker 2: three times. Otherwise it's been two run rods or lessons.
Speaker 2: May first, he has a two point eight sixty IRA
Speaker 2: over sixteen starts, which to me plays pretty well with
Speaker 2: a three two five sierra and twenty one point four
Speaker 2: percent K to walk, so I am more than happy
Speaker 2: with it. And also I was very annoyed by the
Speaker 2: management in Philadelphia. Mister Don Maddingly, former Dodger for those
Speaker 2: keeping track at home, he uh, he left him out
Speaker 2: their way too long. He shouldn't even have been out
Speaker 2: there in the seventh inning. He was already approaching ninety pitches,
Speaker 2: velocity was going down. Like we've seen a lot of
Speaker 2: this lately with these managers. They leave guys out there
Speaker 2: one inning too long and bow ups. Here we are
Speaker 2: so having to Jake Bennett the other night, I think
Speaker 2: you've blown up but ruined a really great start. So yeah,
Speaker 2: Lizardo should have left with six innings. I think one
Speaker 2: earned run and no one would be talking about today.
Speaker 1: That is probably fair. And as somebody who didn't see
Speaker 1: the game, that is good context. Just looking at last year,
Speaker 1: there was the two like biblical blow ups, the twelve
Speaker 1: and runs in the eight earned runs, and there's three
Speaker 1: other starts of at least five, And looking at this season,
Speaker 1: there's one, two, three, four, five, six starts of at
Speaker 1: least five earned runs.
Speaker 2: We were in April when he was tipping pictures.
Speaker 1: This is that again, also your point. And maybe I'm
Speaker 1: just a hater. Maybe I've just been burned by him
Speaker 1: in drafts too many times. I wonder though, heading into
Speaker 1: next year, are these you know type of blow up
Speaker 1: outings something you would ignore and you'd look more towards
Speaker 1: what I would usually look at, the expected numbers of
Speaker 1: strikeout to walk rates. Are we willing to look past
Speaker 1: those blow ups for Lozardo and draft season? Like will
Speaker 1: he be an sp one and your rankings? You think
Speaker 1: he'll be pretty close? Like I had him just outside
Speaker 1: of it in my Vegas auction. He was my sp
Speaker 1: one because prices were crazy, so I got him for
Speaker 1: like a low twenty dollars auction value and built my
Speaker 1: team around that.
Speaker 2: He basically goes in that. He's just right around or
Speaker 2: right behind like a Chris sale for me. But that's
Speaker 2: where the prices and ADP had him this last year.
Speaker 2: I don't think he falters that far from that. To
Speaker 2: be totally honest, Okay, I might just be a hater.
Speaker 2: I might just be No, you're not alone, because I
Speaker 2: get pushed back on it a lot. But I just
Speaker 2: I look at the strikeout up side, and then if
Speaker 2: we talk underlying metrics, it gets a three five seventy
Speaker 2: area on the entire season, including those April blow ups,
Speaker 2: and it's still like around a three Sierra, Like he's
Speaker 2: still very very good Pitcher.
Speaker 1: That's a good point, and honestly is a good point,
Speaker 1: and I probably need to reevaluate that if he gets
Speaker 1: blown up in his first start of the season next year, though,
Speaker 1: I will be on Twitter complaining about it like I used.
Speaker 2: Well, probably get blown up his next start after its
Speaker 2: defended him on on air to everybody.
Speaker 1: Sixer and runs inn't coming next time out for Lozardo.
Speaker 1: But no, he's better than I give him credit for.
Speaker 1: He is better than I give him credit for. I
Speaker 1: must admit a guy who is probably worse than we
Speaker 1: give him credit for. But he's having an amazing season
Speaker 1: and is said Bardo Rodriguez, I don't know how he's
Speaker 1: doing this, but he did it again yesterday, eight innings
Speaker 1: of shutout ball, allowing just five hits and striking out
Speaker 1: two against the Pirates. For the season as a whole,
Speaker 1: two forty eight era, the whip is at one twenty one.
Speaker 1: But EDWARDO Rodriguez, it's been unbelievable this year. It's twenty
Speaker 1: two starts. I wrote a cell high piece in April
Speaker 1: and we are twenty two starts in and it's still
Speaker 1: not coming to here. So I mean, you, guys, if
Speaker 1: you're watching live, you can see the savant page. It's
Speaker 1: not everything. They obviously have to look deeper, but the
Speaker 1: savant page is as blue as the ocean. So what
Speaker 1: do we make of EDWARDO. Rodriguez? You know we're talking
Speaker 1: about trade deadlines approaching in fantasy leagues. If you can
Speaker 1: move him today, would you be trying to do it
Speaker 1: or would you just hold on at this point?
Speaker 2: Well, Joe, have you seen the movies? Now you see me?
Speaker 2: Now you don't that they're making a fourth one scene.
Speaker 2: It's about the twenty twenty six at water or Atrigaz
Speaker 2: baseball season, and it's just a magician basically out there
Speaker 2: and we can't figure it out because I'm with you,
Speaker 2: like I watch him and I've been an e rot
Speaker 2: guy for years. First year I haven't backed him up.
Speaker 2: Here you go and he's going off. But it's so
Speaker 2: frustrating because it's a profile I hate. He's not striking
Speaker 2: out a lot of guys. It's a ton of pitch
Speaker 2: to contact. He's not dominating in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 2: Everything under the hood suggest not a good pitcher. Like
Speaker 2: he has a six k per knight on the season,
Speaker 2: six six k per knight that is horrific. He's just
Speaker 2: you know, you limit soft your hard come. It's like,
Speaker 2: this is nineteen eighties. Pitching is what this is, and
Speaker 2: you're you're seeing it on this this era, So it's
Speaker 2: hard for us to wrap our heads around. The blow
Speaker 2: up is going to be legendary when it happens. But
Speaker 2: I tip my cap and you just start him every
Speaker 2: time out now and you just go like, Okay, this
Speaker 2: is great. I'm playing with house money and see where
Speaker 2: it goes. It was only trade him if you can,
Speaker 2: yes to your original question. Sorry, trade him immediately, if
Speaker 2: you can package him, if you have to, like sweeten
Speaker 2: the deal, but trade him. Yes.
Speaker 1: He's allowed more than five and runs just one time
Speaker 1: this year, and it happened just two starts to go
Speaker 1: against Saint Louis. Other than that, it's been just one
Speaker 1: of those incredible pure seasons. Even four in runs has
Speaker 1: only happened three times. We're talking twenty two starts in
Speaker 1: an eighteen of them three or fewer runs, and almost
Speaker 1: all of them it's zero or one. Like, it's just
Speaker 1: been an incredible season from him. I wonder if he
Speaker 1: gets some back end. Cy Young votes ten wins as well,
Speaker 1: But God, this is the baseball world, right You just
Speaker 1: never really know what's going to happen. There are a
Speaker 1: lot of unpredictable things, and Edward Rodriguez having the season
Speaker 1: that he is is definitely among them. Jared Jones, the
Speaker 1: cover boy, I want to get to him because he
Speaker 1: went six innings yesterday, allowed three runs on four hits
Speaker 1: while striking out five. It probably doesn't feel like the
Speaker 1: most insane line, but Jared Jones since he returned, I mean,
Speaker 1: everybody was super worried about what he was going to do,
Speaker 1: and you know, first year, coming back from a surgery,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Over the last month, Jared Jones, as
Speaker 1: I pull it up here, great radio a two ERA
Speaker 1: and a point six y three whip with thirty three
Speaker 1: strikeouts in his twenty seven innings over his fifty two
Speaker 1: innings as a whole this year to three eighty one
Speaker 1: e in a one zero two whip. But as of late,
Speaker 1: he's unhittable. Nobody's getting on base against him. He's just
Speaker 1: been phenomenal. And I wonder if we're in the realm
Speaker 1: again where we were a couple of years ago, where
Speaker 1: Jared Jones, is he an ace like we thought he
Speaker 1: was gonna be before the injury. Bubba.
Speaker 2: I think he's got these qualities for sure, like Skens
Speaker 2: will always be that ace in Pittsburgh. But he's a
Speaker 2: heck of a one B in that situation. And that's
Speaker 2: why a lot of us liked him last year. He
Speaker 2: got hurt, and a lot of us were very excited
Speaker 2: for him to return this year and Pittsburgh's you know,
Speaker 2: using kids' gloves. And he's still been this effective because
Speaker 2: even yesterday or it's been four straight starts at least
Speaker 2: five and he's three starts of six, still only seventy
Speaker 2: seven pitches, insanely efficient. He threw eighty three pitches in
Speaker 2: his last it is not yesterday able to start before that,
Speaker 2: that's the most he's thrown all season. They've really really
Speaker 2: kept the tight leash on his workload, which I wonder
Speaker 2: if they're just what they're saving him for, maybe for
Speaker 2: next year. But he continues to get better and better
Speaker 2: every start. He's just dominating the opponents via the strikeout
Speaker 2: of the swing and miss, and I'm with you, this
Speaker 2: guy is very, very very good. And I think that
Speaker 2: it will also lead to some interesting skiings discussions next year.
Speaker 1: So if you're going to rank the Pittsburgh starting pitchers,
Speaker 1: Schemes is still at the top I think for most people,
Speaker 1: despite some of the v low and injury concerns. But
Speaker 1: as Jared Jones ahead of Brax and Ashcraft going forward
Speaker 1: for you at this point.
Speaker 2: Yes, I've always had that. I love Brax n Ashcraft.
Speaker 2: There's no no where you're there. But I've always thought
Speaker 2: I could see the allegit argument del Jones will eventually
Speaker 2: replace Schemes. I'm not going to start that today on
Speaker 2: July thirtieth, twenty twenty six, but I can see that
Speaker 2: being a point of context if there's a lockout off season.
Speaker 2: We're trying to fill content. But Axcraft is three for me,
Speaker 2: like he's running out of juice this year, but the
Speaker 2: dude is still insanely talented. It's a heck of a
Speaker 2: one two three for the Pirates.
Speaker 1: It's a damn good team as a whole. You just
Speaker 1: look at what they've done. And we've talked about Andy
Speaker 1: Rodriguez the other day.
Speaker 2: He's back.
Speaker 1: Magnum has been very good, Brandon Lau, Ryan Reynolds has
Speaker 1: been very good, Valdez has been good. Oh hear and
Speaker 1: Nick Gonzalez. The whole lineup has been good except for
Speaker 1: the guy who I believe is the highest paid player
Speaker 1: in the lineup, who's Marcelo Zuna. And then the pitching
Speaker 1: has been really good. If they add a bullpen armor two,
Speaker 1: if they lock up Skiings, I'd look at this team
Speaker 1: over the next five or seven years to say they
Speaker 1: could potentially be a World Series contender. Bubba Chandler also
Speaker 1: in the mix. It's been very disappointing for him, but
Speaker 1: I think in the long run.
Speaker 2: He's improving this year though still general.
Speaker 1: Run yeah, still generally in and the pressure's off of
Speaker 1: him if he has to be a four as opposed
Speaker 1: to a two or a three. So that's a team
Speaker 1: if you're looking to buy futures for next year. I
Speaker 1: wonder if we'll get some Pirates World Series tickets. Who knows,
Speaker 1: we'll see. It's still very early, but they make the
Speaker 1: right couple moves in the off season, I could be
Speaker 1: persuaded into putting a couple bucks on that. Mackenzie Gore.
Speaker 1: I looked up to the first inning yesterday and said,
Speaker 1: here we go again. Three are in runs in the
Speaker 1: first inning, and then checked an hour later. Seven innings.
Speaker 1: Those three runs were the only he allowed. He did
Speaker 1: not walk about her. I believe he did hit one
Speaker 1: with nine strikeouts. And he's another guy where if you
Speaker 1: look at the expected stats still tell a bit of
Speaker 1: a different story than the era for his career. His
Speaker 1: expected FIP in his career is three ninety six, the
Speaker 1: actual era is four thirty. He has a one to
Speaker 1: thirty seven whip, but he has a sixteen percent strikeout
Speaker 1: to walk rate for his career. There's, you know, certain
Speaker 1: things that I really like, certain things that I really
Speaker 1: don't bubb up. Is Mackenzie Gore a guy that eventually
Speaker 1: you think will pop off as an ace or is
Speaker 1: this kind of just who he is at this point?
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a mid foros eer, a guy who
Speaker 1: flashes good skills. But it's essentially the second coming of
Speaker 1: Redebtmers type of thing.
Speaker 2: It feels, and that's not a bad thing to be.
Speaker 2: It's feeling like a Redebtmers thing. I guess if it
Speaker 2: is a Redebtmers thing, people need to lower their expectations
Speaker 2: on draft day because Gore is not drafted as a
Speaker 2: redet vers. But that's not a bad comp Honestly, because
Speaker 2: I'm a huge Gore fan. I kind of bounced off
Speaker 2: him a little bit this year. Second half swoons have
Speaker 2: followed him each and every year, hoping to go to
Speaker 2: Texas would improve. But he's basically Lizardo with less consistency,
Speaker 2: if you want to go that direction. They're both super talented.
Speaker 2: When they're on, they're just dominating. But Gore has too
Speaker 2: many off days a lad. So I think that's a
Speaker 2: very good comp and if he falls into that, you know,
Speaker 2: a third or four starter Redetmer's role, that's a heck
Speaker 2: of the way to go for the Rangers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, seeing in the chat, Todd saying Gore's range of
Speaker 1: outcomes seems slightly better than Dept.
Speaker 2: Meer's.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm here, but yeah, not this year.
Speaker 2: But dets on a real team and it might be different.
Speaker 1: This is true. I mean, I don't find out by
Speaker 1: Monday he's probably gonna get traded. We'll see the angels.
Speaker 1: I just you never know what the angels. I wonder
Speaker 1: if Mike Trout could potentially be on his way out
Speaker 1: the door, I Soriano Deptmers who knows. We'll have to
Speaker 1: see what happens over the next few days. Let's head
Speaker 1: to my neck of the woods and talk Trey A. Savage,
Speaker 1: because he had a really good start against one of
Speaker 1: the best offenses in the league, the Nationals. Like we
Speaker 1: all thought they would be six and two thirds, three hits,
Speaker 1: one earned run. He did walk three and struck out four.
Speaker 1: But those three walks kind of a problem here with
Speaker 1: Treya Savage. If you look back to last season, he
Speaker 1: had a ton of walks, eleven percent walk great, it
Speaker 1: was high in the playoffs. If you look what he did,
Speaker 1: you know, rehabbing in the minors fifteen percent, twelve percent,
Speaker 1: and then this year in the majors it's twelve percent again.
Speaker 1: And he seems to be succeeding in spite of the
Speaker 1: crazy high walk rate. But it's not something that I
Speaker 1: love to see going forward, Bob, and I think it
Speaker 1: probably keeps him out of those ace type of conversations
Speaker 1: for me going forward until he gets out under control.
Speaker 1: What do you think about Trey Savage going forward?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I fully agree, as I was looking forward
Speaker 2: to here Jay's definition or discussion on this, But I'm
Speaker 2: with you, and he's if you look at the underlying stats,
Speaker 2: he's actually been lucky this year. But it's it's a
Speaker 2: control thing one hundred percent with him, because it's a
Speaker 2: flyball guy that walks too many guys and he'll give
Speaker 2: up the long ball and just unravels from there. But
Speaker 2: like he's got the nastiness to go with it. But
Speaker 2: the consistency is the problem. So I'm with you. It's
Speaker 2: gonna very very much limit his potential. Maybe he needs
Speaker 2: to going to like Tampa Bay. They fix all those problems.
Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Take it easy there, partner. I
Speaker 1: think he will eventually figure things out. But a thing
Speaker 1: here with him and a lot of guys, this type
Speaker 1: of mold. He relies on the splitter so much, and
Speaker 1: the splitter is probably the most inconsistent.
Speaker 2: Pitch in all of baseball.
Speaker 1: I've fought with Nick Pollock for years about Kevin Gosman
Speaker 1: and his viability. We've been alternating right and wrong in
Speaker 1: those years because sometimes it clicks and he's great, and
Speaker 1: sometimes it doesn't. And like we see this year, Kevin
Speaker 1: Gosman hasn't been good. And I wonder if you Savage
Speaker 1: maybe develops another pitch, just take some of the pressure
Speaker 1: off of the splitter, something that maybe we see happen
Speaker 1: over time. Certainly needs to improve the fastball a little bit,
Speaker 1: but we'll see. We'll see what happens with Trey Savage.
Speaker 1: Definitely some potential, but it's been a little bit shaky
Speaker 1: to this point in his career.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest.
Speaker 1: Sean Manaya had a very strong start against the Braves.
Speaker 1: Six innings, five hits, tour in runs, four strikeouts and
Speaker 1: two walks, and Shaan Manya, I mean it kind of
Speaker 1: struck me as a bit of a surprise, but he's
Speaker 1: been a really reliable pitcher now going back for about
Speaker 1: the last two months. And I wonder, Bubba, is there
Speaker 1: some streaming viability or even maybe just pick him up
Speaker 1: and hold them with Shaw and Iya at this point,
Speaker 1: would you be interested in adding him for the st
Speaker 1: if you're seeing him available in any leagues?
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think he's a very good streaming option
Speaker 2: a twelve team and deeper for sure. Maybe occasionally intends
Speaker 2: we'll see where he's pitching in his next start, because
Speaker 2: he's highly rumored to be sent out of New York.
Speaker 2: But he's another one of those guys that he's doing
Speaker 2: it with lowered velocity, which always concerns me. But he's
Speaker 2: doing it, and he's pitching very well, and he's still
Speaker 2: striking guys out, So yeah, definitely a streamer down the stretch.
Speaker 1: If you look back over the last nine starts, is
Speaker 1: a three seventy five ERA and a one eighteen whip
Speaker 1: with a fifteen percent strikeout to walk right. So definitely
Speaker 1: some pretty solid numbers from Sean and I and not
Speaker 1: that I was expecting it at all, but he's had
Speaker 1: a little good run of productivity here. I realized putting
Speaker 1: these shows sheets together recently that I always tend to
Speaker 1: put pitching before the hitting for whatever reason. I don't
Speaker 1: know what that says about me. But let's go and
Speaker 1: talk about a couple of hitters. Matt Olson. I mean,
Speaker 1: just an incredible season that he's having. But it I
Speaker 1: don't feel like it's really been talked about all that much.
Speaker 1: And maybe it has and I've just missed it. But
Speaker 1: Matt Olsen hit his twenty eighth home run of the
Speaker 1: season yesterday. He went two for eight across the double header.
Speaker 1: He's hitting two sixty four with a three forty one
Speaker 1: on base rate and an incredible five to twenty five
Speaker 1: slugging percentage. It's a one thirty three WRC plus he's
Speaker 1: doing pretty much what he did last season over the
Speaker 1: course of the whole year. Like his numbers already through
Speaker 1: one hundred and eight games resemble nearly the whole season
Speaker 1: stats from twenty twenty five. First base is going to
Speaker 1: be pretty crowded next year. I think you know Ben
Speaker 1: Rice is going to be first base. Only you have
Speaker 1: ever's there who didn't used to be there. If I
Speaker 1: think about it more, there's probably like fifteen viable first baseman.
Speaker 1: Where do you think Maddelson fits in? Is he a
Speaker 1: top three, top five guy? Is the age? Were you
Speaker 1: at all with him? What are your thoughts on Matt
Speaker 1: Olson bubba age doesn't worry me a ton.
Speaker 2: It should eventually, but the dude just just pencil him
Speaker 2: in right now. And it's the Machado conversation. I guess
Speaker 2: at first base, will it eventually run out? Maybe the
Speaker 2: bat average is always fluctuating. Mem as you mentioned twenty
Speaker 2: eight on Brouns, it was twenty ninety to the last
Speaker 2: two years. He's on pace for like his twenty twenty
Speaker 2: two season, potentially with more like His runs and RBIs
Speaker 2: are great. He's just a force that you can pencil
Speaker 2: it and I love everything about him. You could get him,
Speaker 2: you know, round pick eighty to one hundred this year,
Speaker 2: which is great. He should go higher than that. I
Speaker 2: think he'll be more in that Pee Alonso conversation next year.
Speaker 2: You can just set up after it and then we
Speaker 2: still what are we to do with lad That's a
Speaker 2: great fall another conversation in the offseason. So yeah, Olson's
Speaker 2: going to work his way up there. But to your point, also,
Speaker 2: first base is extremely deep, so will that force the issue?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean first base is always like a pretty
Speaker 1: solid position, but maybe it's just anecdotally, it feels very
Speaker 1: very strong. You're going to have ben Rice sal Stewart
Speaker 1: will be eligible at first base, Miguel Vargas, depending on formats,
Speaker 1: will be eligible, Luis Garcia, Alex Burlison having a great year,
Speaker 1: Jake Bowers. I haven't even really mentioned any of the
Speaker 1: star names yet. I'm just looking at the player raider
Speaker 1: and these are the top ten names. It's pretty incredible
Speaker 1: what's happened with versts this year.
Speaker 2: Like, for example, Harper was going before him, like I'd
Speaker 2: have Wholesome over Harper, but Harper always good the push
Speaker 2: and he every year you think he's gonna drop, but
Speaker 2: he doesn't. So it will be extremely interesting to see
Speaker 2: how this pans. Like there's gonna be a couple that
Speaker 2: I quote unquote we're used to being in the top.
Speaker 2: You know, ten guys that are gonna fall quite a bit.
Speaker 2: That'll make another I know I keeps talking about next year,
Speaker 2: but there's a lot of discussion points brewing based on
Speaker 2: this season.
Speaker 1: I mean, Jake Berger, I think, has had a really
Speaker 1: good year. He has nineteen homers, he has sixty six RBI,
Speaker 1: he's hitting two forty, and he's the twenty seventh ranked
Speaker 1: first basement on the Player Raiders, So just a really
Speaker 1: really deep position this year. I do want to mention
Speaker 1: Trey Turner because he had a home run yesterday and
Speaker 1: he's been unbelievable coming out of the All Star break.
Speaker 1: Twelve games, five homers, he's hitting three hundred with a
Speaker 1: six to eighty slugging percentage, as you can see on
Speaker 1: the stream here. Though, for those of you watching on YouTube,
Speaker 1: the overall profile when you're looking at stat cast is
Speaker 1: not terribly kind to Trey Turner, and I wonder if
Speaker 1: he's maybe started to decline a little bit the last
Speaker 1: week or so would indicate probably not. But the season
Speaker 1: long numbers he's hitting two forty three is an eighty
Speaker 1: six WRC plus. What do you make of this recent
Speaker 1: hot run from him? Is this trade Turner turning the
Speaker 1: corner the way he did in his first year in Philly,
Speaker 1: which started off as a big disappointment and they cheered
Speaker 1: and clapped for him and then he figured it out.
Speaker 1: Or is this potentially actually the start of some real
Speaker 1: decline for the thirty three year old Bubba.
Speaker 2: I am slightly worried about his agent's guy that's been
Speaker 2: beat up a lot lately. Every year now it's like
Speaker 2: a back or a knee, or there's always something with
Speaker 2: Turner right now, which does concern me overall long term
Speaker 2: discussions with him. But that's why the Phillies are rumored
Speaker 2: for like they're talking about zach Nettos. They can move
Speaker 2: Turner to third or even right field to get him
Speaker 2: out of shortstop and kind of limit damage. But to
Speaker 2: your question, I think he can go on a streak.
Speaker 2: I think the skills are still very much there as
Speaker 2: a hitter, or the bat speed might be declining a
Speaker 2: bit and we might not be that three hundred guy,
Speaker 2: and he might, but the powers there, he's hitting for average,
Speaker 2: Like I think he's still very very good, just might
Speaker 2: not be the guy he once was.
Speaker 1: A couple of questions in the chat about first base
Speaker 1: here continuing the conversation, asking me what's wrong with Blad.
Speaker 1: Your guess is as good as myn I mean, there's
Speaker 1: a back injury, potentially there's a hamstring right now. There's
Speaker 1: potentially the big pressure in the first year the big contract.
Speaker 1: Usually we equate that with guys going to new teams,
Speaker 1: but this is the first year of Lad's five hundred
Speaker 1: million dollar deal kicking in. So maybe there's that Yandy
Speaker 1: over Vlad next year. Yes, I don't have a problem
Speaker 1: with it. Yandy and Flatter essentially the same guy, especially
Speaker 1: at cost, because Vlad will be probably fifty to seventy
Speaker 1: picks more expensive. And Anddy Diaz go look sort by
Speaker 1: from twenty twenty two to now and look at their
Speaker 1: stats and tell me Vlad is a much better player.
Speaker 1: I can't do it anymore. And I'll say that as
Speaker 1: a diehard jas fan.
Speaker 2: I I this is a growth moment. Joe. I'm very
Speaker 2: proud of you. I am because I know your love
Speaker 2: for your Jays and your Vladdie, So I'm very proud
Speaker 2: of you on that one. That had to be difficult.
Speaker 1: Yes it away, throw it away. Maybe next year. Next
Speaker 1: year will be the year for the Jays. Hopefully, maybe not,
Speaker 1: but we'll see one more name in the headlines. I
Speaker 1: want to get to Haro Berta Hernandez. I'm gonna tap
Speaker 1: myself on the back because I did a little waiver
Speaker 1: short on him a couple weeks ago, and by golly,
Speaker 1: has it been good? Last thirty games. Eleven homers or
Speaker 1: excuse me, eleven runs, eight homers, fourteen RBI, two stolen
Speaker 1: bases in a two eighty six batting average, and he's
Speaker 1: still just sixteen percent rostered on Yahoo. And before I
Speaker 1: hear oh, and nobody's playing on Yahoo anymore, Asmlin Valdez
Speaker 1: is over seventy percent. So people can still pick up
Speaker 1: recent hot streaks. It's not just mock drafts. And then
Speaker 1: we forget about our leagues. There are still active leagues
Speaker 1: on there. With Heroberto Hernandez on the waiver wire, I'd
Speaker 1: recommend picking him up. But this feels like Jesus Sanchez
Speaker 1: from a few years ago the Tools, a guy with
Speaker 1: five category type of potential playing for the Marlins. What
Speaker 1: do you think about Heroberta Hernandez and what he's done
Speaker 1: this year?
Speaker 2: Ederberto is awesome, Like he's got sixteen jacks on the year.
Speaker 2: In two forty one he mentioned the hot streak with
Speaker 2: that has can come with recent playing time, consistent playing time,
Speaker 2: like they used to just be a platoon situation and
Speaker 2: that stopped a while ago. That was even before you know,
Speaker 2: Cassie goes on the io and stuff. They made Arobert
Speaker 2: to at least an eighty percent guy, and that that's
Speaker 2: tremendous that the productions there. I think he should be
Speaker 2: rostered a lot of places. I know he is in
Speaker 2: most of my formats in twelves and fifteens, and I
Speaker 2: think in Yahoo he's there's no I know Esberlein had
Speaker 2: the hot streak and it's been ice cold, and we
Speaker 2: talked about that when it was happening, that that was
Speaker 2: going to happen with him. He'll be hot and cold.
Speaker 2: I think if you want consistency, Ederberto is a better
Speaker 2: player of the rest of the season, to be totally honest,
Speaker 2: than as brilliant is now. I don't think that's a
Speaker 2: hot take at all No.
Speaker 1: I totally agree. I totally agree. Especially after Valdez got
Speaker 1: hit on the hand. You never know how that's going
Speaker 1: to impact you going forward. For a power guy in particular,
Speaker 1: Harroberto or Max Clark in the chat, it's easily Herobert
Speaker 1: or Hernandez for me, for me too, and then Heroberto
Speaker 1: or Jack Caglion, it might be Heroberto at this point.
Speaker 1: As much as I love CAGs, it's close.
Speaker 2: It might be Roberto. I had Ryan and I discussed
Speaker 2: CAGs on Tuesday nights Bub and the Bloom, and I
Speaker 2: still think he's very good. He had decent game on Wednesday.
Speaker 2: I'm worried the shoulder injury he's playing through is going
Speaker 2: to zap that power for a bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it hasn't been the year I was hoping for
Speaker 1: from CAGs. It looked really good. There was a month
Speaker 1: stretch where he was like the leader in WRC plus,
Speaker 1: but it was just a month stretch. He hasn't been
Speaker 1: able to keep that up. Next to your rebound Vlad
Speaker 1: or VP, I'd probably still go Vlad there, but I'd
Speaker 1: like to buy the dip on both. I'd have one
Speaker 1: as a first base, one as a corner infielder hypothetically
Speaker 1: wouldn't have any problem with that, depending on price.
Speaker 2: I had a lot of NP this year, and I'll
Speaker 2: have a lot more next year too, And I still
Speaker 2: am a big fan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still a believer as well. I wonder it
Speaker 1: seemed like the Royals as a whole might have been
Speaker 1: affected by the team going to the WBC. It was
Speaker 1: like all of their key contributors were there and then
Speaker 1: they all struggled out of the gate. So I'm going
Speaker 1: to give him a pass. He's going to get a
Speaker 1: mulligan for me as well. Reminder, guys, my playbook is
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Speaker 1: fun fact and we're gonna go to your neck of
Speaker 1: the woods for this one. Bubba Daniel Susak hit his
Speaker 1: first two home runs, both in the same game, became
Speaker 1: in the first Giants player since Jim got in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty five to accomplish defeat. That one is per the
Speaker 1: wonderful Sarah Langs was a young Bubba watching Jim Gott
Speaker 1: hit those first two home runs in nineteen eighty five, Bubba,
Speaker 1: or am I dating you a little bit too much?
Speaker 2: Here?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I was almost two years old, so no, I was
Speaker 2: not watching you Got Me? You Got Me Joe? But no,
Speaker 2: I did not the question I have for Sarah Leggs,
Speaker 2: and she does all. I love the tweets she puts
Speaker 2: up for all this. Sue sack second home run. I
Speaker 2: think he got like one and a half on Wednesday.
Speaker 2: The second one came off of Andrew Vaughan and barely
Speaker 2: made it to the left center field seats, So I
Speaker 2: kind of take that with the grain of salt.
Speaker 1: Okay, I actually didn't realize it came off of Andrew Vaughn,
Speaker 1: who could use Helple Homers himself. The guy's only got
Speaker 1: like four this year. But man, it's a pretty fun
Speaker 1: list of guys look back on here.
Speaker 2: I'll say this as a Giants fan. For those that
Speaker 2: know one of their I love their their TV combo
Speaker 2: Dwayn Kuiper and Mike Kirk. I think they're one of
Speaker 2: the best. Absolutely love him well. Kuiper is legendary as
Speaker 2: when he was a Cleveland, Indian at the time, he
Speaker 2: hit one home run. That's the only home run he
Speaker 2: has in his entire career. So so. One of the
Speaker 2: Beat writers posted yesterday on Twitter that Daniel Seussick tied
Speaker 2: and past dayne Kuiper on the same day. That's good stuff.
Speaker 1: That's a good booth. Whenever I see a clip from
Speaker 1: that booth, it's usually good stuff. I'm partial to my
Speaker 1: own booth in Toronto with Shulman, but that you guys
Speaker 1: are up there, you guys are right up there. I
Speaker 1: got to push back a little bit in the chat
Speaker 1: on Brick saying Haroberdo is just a flash in the pan.
Speaker 1: I couldn't disagree more. His barrel rate has gone up
Speaker 1: this year from ten percent to nearly thirteen heart hit
Speaker 1: rate up five points. The main thing though, the bat
Speaker 1: speed from ninety miles an hour to ninety two miles
Speaker 1: an hour. He has pretty solid plate discipline, he makes
Speaker 1: decent contact. There's a lot of stuff to like here,
Speaker 1: the power speed mix, it's a decent lineup around him.
Speaker 1: If people don't want to buy in, I can kind
Speaker 1: of understand it. But also it's a pretty good minor
Speaker 1: league track record. There's just a lot to like here
Speaker 1: with Herbert or Hernandez, so more for me. If people
Speaker 1: aren't going to buy in. Absolutely another piece of news
Speaker 1: here in the fun fact section, remember me, Jared Kellennick
Speaker 1: re signs with the Rangers on a minor league deal,
Speaker 1: and I wonder, Bubba, if there's any chance that Jared
Speaker 1: Kellernick does not a full Jordan Walker but at some
Speaker 1: point comes back into our fantasy lives in any way,
Speaker 1: shape or form. Do you expect to ever see Jared
Speaker 1: Kellnick in Waiver wire articles or on thumbnails for podcasts again?
Speaker 1: Or do you think those days are those days have
Speaker 1: kind of set behind.
Speaker 2: Us, Those days are behind us, not to not to
Speaker 2: I'm not even it's like the third or fourth minor
Speaker 2: league deal he's had this year, so I'm just going
Speaker 2: to pretend that didn't happen, and sorry to disrupt the show, Joe,
Speaker 2: but Shane mcclanahandus threw a pitch and left with the
Speaker 2: trainer and he's pissed, so that's not good. Sorry, but uh,
Speaker 2: I know, but that just happened, and he's literally the
Speaker 2: trainer walked down. He says, let's go, and he walked away.
Speaker 2: I walked off the mount with him.
Speaker 1: I was you know, I was wrong about McClanahan this
Speaker 1: year in terms of this production We've gotten. This was
Speaker 1: the worry though, after coming off of two major elbow surgeries, like,
Speaker 1: what are you really going to expect from him? And
Speaker 1: I've been proven wrong, but I don't know what's left
Speaker 1: ligament wise or tendon wise in that elbow. At this
Speaker 1: point asked prayers not from McLanahan, but you know what,
Speaker 1: the race should get on the phone and call the
Speaker 1: Tigers right now and say, all right, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Let's get Perry's. Google's spore reminded me yesterday that they
Speaker 1: offered camon Aro for Otani, so they are not They're
Speaker 1: willing to put the chips into the middle even if
Speaker 1: we don't. Usually see the razor associate them with big moves.
Speaker 1: Definitely still possible that something happens here. Let's get to
Speaker 1: the three up and three down and we'll stick in
Speaker 1: your neck of the ones. Are the Giants an absolute
Speaker 1: route of the Brewers? I think they had sixteen runs
Speaker 1: four heads. For both Luisa Rise and for Elliott Ramos,
Speaker 1: I've both been having really solid years. I know Ramos
Speaker 1: has missed some time, but look at his stats. Just
Speaker 1: a really solid player that I don't think people care
Speaker 1: enough about for fantasy. And then Luisa Rise has been
Speaker 1: one of the better late round picks of the year.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on your Giants and the offense?
Speaker 1: Is it coming around a little bit? Is this just
Speaker 1: a one off type of game here?
Speaker 2: Well, the offense as inconsistent as it can be. I've
Speaker 2: had this discussion on my shows and even off air
Speaker 2: with Giants fans with that are like taking take a
Speaker 2: deep breath. I guess that I actually think the offense
Speaker 2: is not the problem. The offense is really good at
Speaker 2: least like one through seven, one through eight, when it's healthy,
Speaker 2: it's a good lineup. I know there's some head cases involved,
Speaker 2: it's the bullpens a disaster and outside like the top
Speaker 2: two starting pitchers, it's a disaster and it doesn't matter
Speaker 2: what your offense is at that point, the sad part
Speaker 2: and I'll just you know, two seconds there, arise is
Speaker 2: likely gone. Yeah, and Elliott Ramos is being discussed. And
Speaker 2: this is what I hate, and I get it, it's
Speaker 2: a business, but this is a guy that I think
Speaker 2: would be perfect for a Giants team that doesn't usually
Speaker 2: have a lot of power. I wish they would resign him,
Speaker 2: but heck of a run. I've gained a lot of
Speaker 2: respect watching Lisa Rice. I always thought he's just this
Speaker 2: slappy guy who cares, but watching him every game, one
Speaker 2: heck of a ball player with any playoff team should go.
Speaker 1: Get And you know what, he's turned into a good
Speaker 1: defender this year, Which is it all? Ron Washington? Is
Speaker 1: that what we're putting all the credit here?
Speaker 2: Because it seems like he's really good at it. He's
Speaker 2: really good at it. That's his gig.
Speaker 1: Second base? Isn't that hard? Tell him, Wash, it's incredibly hard.
Speaker 1: Let's keep it going. With three ups and three downs,
Speaker 1: Christian Scott had another solid outing five and two thirds
Speaker 1: against the Braves one and run in seven strikeouts. This
Speaker 1: is the guy that we thought we were getting in
Speaker 1: fab a couple of years ago before the injury happened.
Speaker 1: Looks like he is on his way to becoming an ace.
Speaker 1: And then I got to mention Louis Varland a six
Speaker 1: out save and he dropped his ERA below one for
Speaker 1: the season yesterday. Mason Miller is the best reliever in baseball.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to argue that is Louis Varland number.
Speaker 2: Two, not still Kate Smith. I had. I had Mason
Speaker 2: Miller and Kate Smith one A and one B going
Speaker 2: in the draft season. If you look at their stats
Speaker 2: the last three years taking saves out because because Kate
Speaker 2: Smith didn't have the chance, almost identical, and I think
Speaker 2: they're still that good. Louis of Arland's approaching that mixed though,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say he's not.
Speaker 1: It's hard to believe that the Guardians had like the
Speaker 1: best closer in baseball. He does something incredibly stupid, gets
Speaker 1: himself banned, and they replace him with the guy who
Speaker 1: might end up being the next best closer in baseball.
Speaker 1: Good problem to have for them on the downs Austin Riley,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just we can have him on the
Speaker 1: downs every day, it feels like. But yesterday, over the
Speaker 1: course of the doubleheader against the Mets, seven at bat's
Speaker 1: eight played appearances, he walked once and struck out six times.
Speaker 1: I might have to start I might have to start
Speaker 1: a holy crapo meter on this show, because when I
Speaker 1: saw that, I was like, Holy crap, six six strikeouts
Speaker 1: in one day for Austin Riley. Is there any hope
Speaker 1: that he eventually figures it out, you think? Or is
Speaker 1: this a career that's going to continue to trend downward
Speaker 1: over the next couple of years.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think he's going to be a heck of
Speaker 2: a bi low target next year because and I was like,
Speaker 2: I have not been a big Austin Relly fan, but
Speaker 2: I think people are so sick of him. It's intriguing
Speaker 2: just for the fact that if you look at like
Speaker 2: his quality of contact is still almost elite, Like it's
Speaker 2: still very, very good. He's hitting the ball so hard,
Speaker 2: barely so much. He's got to figure out the swing
Speaker 2: in the miss. That's his thing, and that can be
Speaker 2: an off season tweak. We've seen him teak the swing before,
Speaker 2: so I'll be interested. But man, it has been a
Speaker 2: disaster this season.
Speaker 1: No good, no good at all. What's worse than a
Speaker 1: sinco stinko? How do you say six in Spanish? I
Speaker 1: forget sa the sace, it's.
Speaker 2: A safe puts you to sleep space. Yes, I know
Speaker 2: Spanish for my work, so I could help you with this.
Speaker 1: I know about five words in French thanks to the
Speaker 1: Toronto Public school system. But other than that, I cannot
Speaker 1: help us with feigning the odd bit of Italian here
Speaker 1: and there. But that's not going to to us any good.
Speaker 1: Here somebody else that will not do us any good.
Speaker 1: Aaron Boone said that the Yankees have not determined when
Speaker 1: Aaron Judge will be next evaluated. Still without a timetable
Speaker 1: to return over under point five games for Aaron Judge
Speaker 1: the rest of season, does he get back in the lineup.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say over, just because I think the one
Speaker 2: I guess was swings in if they if they are
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, if they get eliminated, we might not
Speaker 2: see Aaron Judge this year. So I'll still take the
Speaker 2: over because he asked the question. But I've told people
Speaker 2: for a long time, like I think you can drop
Speaker 2: Aaron Judge If people think we're crazy and there's not
Speaker 2: been one piece of good news ever in this situation.
Speaker 1: If you could either hold just Judge or Sodo, Like
Speaker 1: let's say you had an auction team and you had
Speaker 1: both of them and you needed to free up a spot.
Speaker 1: Who do you think is more likely to return and
Speaker 1: provide value this year between them Sodo?
Speaker 2: And I've said you could drop Sodo too, but I
Speaker 2: think at least you might get two weeks out of Sodo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dark, dark stuff for first round picks this year,
Speaker 1: Like across the board, it's been awful.
Speaker 2: It's bad, awful, really bad.
Speaker 1: Like nearly every first round pick has either been hurt
Speaker 1: or disappointed or there's been something with like twelve of
Speaker 1: the top fifteen picks this year, Whit's been hurt Judge, Crochet,
Speaker 1: Scooble miss sometimes Skens has been disappointing, Jay Ram hurt.
Speaker 1: Let's just go right to the second round next year
Speaker 1: and not even worry about the first round Byron's auction.
Speaker 1: Just do an auction. Byron Bucksen was placed on the
Speaker 1: ten day ail with a hip and pingement, no clear
Speaker 1: timetable for his return either. So if anybody thought maybe
Speaker 1: the twins would get a godfather type of offer at
Speaker 1: the deadline and Buckson would wave his no trade clause
Speaker 1: or something. It does not appear that that will be
Speaker 1: the case. I didn't think it was going to happen anyway,
Speaker 1: but this kind of solidifies that Corey Seeger will be
Speaker 1: activated from the IL tomorrow as long as all goes right.
Speaker 1: We never know with Corey Seger, but it looks like
Speaker 1: he'll be back tomorrow for your weekend lineups. Nick Kurtz
Speaker 1: will undergo on MRI on his forearm on Thursday. X
Speaker 1: rays came back unclear after he was hit by a
Speaker 1: pitch on Wednesday, and they want to do further imaging.
Speaker 1: No boin o baba, I'll give you that much in Spanish.
Speaker 1: Does not look very good for Nick Kurtz.
Speaker 2: No, no, it does not not good at all.
Speaker 1: Also not good. I should be laughing. Another bad one here,
Speaker 1: but MIKEL Garcia pulled from his rehab assignment after feeling
Speaker 1: similar pain symptoms in his injured hand. So it's just
Speaker 1: a litany of bad news today pretty much. Curtis mead
Speaker 1: some slight positive news, avoided surgery, but is still expected
Speaker 1: to miss six to eight weeks in his recovery. So
Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty clear drop for Curtis Mead
Speaker 1: as well, even in Rode oh leagues like there's what
Speaker 1: are you gonna get? Maybe a week out of him?
Speaker 1: Maybe I just you're dropping Curtis meat, I think, Bubba,
Speaker 1: is there any any pushback on that?
Speaker 2: No, he's gone no, yeah, okay good.
Speaker 1: And then O'Neil Cruz have been cleared for all baseball
Speaker 1: activities and is hopeful to begin a rehab assignment in
Speaker 1: early August. I wonder there might be some shallow waiver
Speaker 1: wires where there's limited IL spots where he might be
Speaker 1: kicking around. I doubt it. Take a look and see.
Speaker 1: You might get lucky if you're in a ten teamer.
Speaker 1: And then Edwin Diaz activated from the IL. We played
Speaker 1: the trumpets for him, and we played the bagpipes for
Speaker 1: Tanner Scott because he has been just unbelievable. I know
Speaker 1: he gave up a run yesterday, but we're talking a
Speaker 1: low twos, mid two s cra A whip in the
Speaker 1: point eight range sixteen saves an immediate drop for Tanner Scott. Here,
Speaker 1: I assume, Bubba, are you gonna hold on to him?
Speaker 2: If you're in need to say is I'm holding on
Speaker 2: because I don't think they're going to do back to
Speaker 2: backs for a while with Diz. For one, diaz velocity
Speaker 2: was up yesterday, but he also get two doubles like
Speaker 2: he wasn't gonna get one with in the entire outing.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna sit back and kind of watch this.
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna be very careful with Diaz. They
Speaker 2: want ds for October, and I think Scott will find
Speaker 2: his way into some save opportunities or something happens to Diz.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 1: It's good to hear that because I have a few
Speaker 1: Tanner Scott shares and he's been so good. It feel
Speaker 1: really really dirty to drop a guy who's been like
Speaker 1: a top sixty player this year.
Speaker 2: But I got at least wait a couple weeks. Yeah,
Speaker 2: see what happened.
Speaker 1: Let's hold on there, guys. We're gonna move into the
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Speaker 1: looks like the top guy today at Great American Ballpark
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Speaker 1: Perez also looking like a great value, and then Munataka
Speaker 1: Murakami going up against Ryan Weathers That one will be
Speaker 1: in Chicago. But but where are you going for your
Speaker 1: home runs today? Anybody from the big board? Are you
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Speaker 2: Path on this one? He's not super high on the
Speaker 2: big board, but I think most people will agree. We
Speaker 2: will go to Great American Small Park, we will face
Speaker 2: Reht Louder, we will go Brandon Lao, who is just
Speaker 2: having a monster year hitting home runs. So I will
Speaker 2: take I'll go on the Loo train for tonight.
Speaker 1: I think that is a solid pick here, and I
Speaker 1: am going to go with what I believe is a
Speaker 1: solid one as well, and that's Julio Rodriguez at Dodgers
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Speaker 1: pretty much wrap it up. Maybe if you do a
Speaker 1: couple of chat questions here, just so we could maybe
Speaker 1: hit the over on the show. So I don't catch
Speaker 1: any flak from Welsh Dylan Cruz or Max Clark going forward,
Speaker 1: I think I might go Dylan Cruz in that lineup,
Speaker 1: with what he's been doing recently. I think it's cruse
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 2: I'll go Cruise. But if you're on a Sunday fab
Speaker 2: and you see Clark plays all three games in the outfield,
Speaker 2: I'd be intrigued to take a shot on Clark. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that's a fair call. So I traded away
Speaker 1: Connolly early a six dollars keeper for Blake Snell. What
Speaker 1: does everyone think for me rest of season? I think
Speaker 1: you probably did okay there, I haven't seen the latest
Speaker 1: update on Snell, but I think that he has got
Speaker 1: a couple more rehab starts.
Speaker 2: Left to go. I'll give it to you. On Wednesday,
Speaker 2: he threw sixty pitches, struck out nine over four shutout innings.
Speaker 2: He either is going to throw a one more rehab
Speaker 2: start or with the Dodgers schedule coming up, they might
Speaker 2: go to a six man and bring him up next
Speaker 2: week for like a seventy five pitch start and then
Speaker 2: he's ready to roll. So he's back soon. So I'm
Speaker 2: assuming Lee is going for the title this year. Early
Speaker 2: might not give you a whole heck of a lot.
Speaker 2: So I think he did really well with Snow, But yeah,
Speaker 2: go for the ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm with you there, Will Ty Franz
Speaker 1: keep it up rest of season. I tend to lean no.
Speaker 1: Probably it's a crazy run, especially in a pitcher's park
Speaker 1: for a guy who's been solid but not anything that exceptional.
Speaker 1: I would lean towards no. And if you're doing these
Speaker 1: last minute deals, you need a kicker to sweeten a deal.
Speaker 1: Pro Ty Frans in there, I don't think it's going
Speaker 1: to hurt you too much down the stretch.
Speaker 2: What do you think Bumba. Yeah, I think he'll be serviceable,
Speaker 2: but he's not going to be this outstanding all.
Speaker 1: Season and last one before we wrap it up. I
Speaker 1: can keep too Ty Franz, CAGs, Carrig or laira rest
Speaker 1: of season. Hmmm, I'll kick that one to you first.
Speaker 2: I want to say, CAGs and Carrig. Larr has been very,
Speaker 2: very good. I'm gonna go Kags and Carrig on that one.
Speaker 1: I think I'm with you. I think I'm with you there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I'm with you CAGs and Carrig. And that
Speaker 1: will wrap us up for today, and you know what,
Speaker 1: I'll take the slide under. We're juicing the betting markets here.
Speaker 1: I went all the prediction markets and bet the end
Speaker 1: of this morning. So we're going to cast that one.
Speaker 1: Take it all the way to the bank at forty
Speaker 1: nine to thirty. But thank you guys so much for
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Speaker 1: I believe it's an IT We got the ITL takeover,
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Speaker 1: here on Twitch on Monday, we will not be here,
Speaker 1: so we will be on YouTube. As I've rambled, we've
Speaker 1: hit the over on fifth, so who knows. Maybe I'm
Speaker 1: betting both sides of it, getting a little arbitrage here,
Speaker 1: but that will do it for us. For leading off,
Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow with Welshon Bogman for Casey Baba
Speaker 1: and Joel Rico.
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