1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show, 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: Thursday edition of the program. 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: We appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: Where we may be across this great country or this 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 1: great land. We have got a bevy of stories to 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: dive in with you today. Donald Trump versus DeSantis continues 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: to accelerate. Trump taking some real shots at DeSantis in 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: the last day. We will play them for you. RFK 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: Junior Buck first, people, I heard really talking about RFK 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: Junior and those really interesting poll numbers where he had 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: fourteen percent support in the USA Today poll. He's officially announced. 13 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: I invited him on the show on Twitter. I believe 14 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: the staff has invited him as well. I think this 15 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: spells major issues for Biden, and we can talk about 16 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: what that might look like going forward. 17 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: Joy Reid, our. 18 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: Good friend, continues to blame Fox News for the shooting 19 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: that happened in Kansas City, a shooting that got attention, 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: despite the fact that there are literally one thousand shootings 21 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: that probably have happened that are every bit as bad, 22 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: if not worse. In the last week or two, Hunter Biden. 23 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal with an exclusive IRS whistleblower has come 24 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: out and said, hey, guess what the IRS is giving 25 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: favorable treatment to Hunter Biden? And three years ago today, 26 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: for those of you out there who remember, in the 27 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: long litany of absurdity that was taking place, Los Angeles 28 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: filled in a skate park with sand outdoors to keep 29 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: kids from skateboarding and potentially getting COVID, I mean getting 30 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: COVID while skate boarding outdoors that all rolling in together. 31 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: So so all of that, but let's begin here. 32 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: Buck. 33 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: Donald Trump has just gone straight out guns blazing at 34 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: rond de Santis. Yesterday he directly warned Ron de Santis 35 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: against running for president. 36 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: Here's what that sounded like. 37 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 3: Ron de Santis is a young man who is not 38 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 3: doing well against me and the polls. To put it mildly, 39 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 3: I believe that if he decides to run for president, 40 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: which will only hurt and somewhat divide the Republican Party, 41 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 3: which we don't need, he will lose the cherished and 42 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 3: massive mega vote and never be able to successfully run 43 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 3: for office again. I believe that if he remains governor, 44 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 3: which is what Florida voters assumed he would do, it 45 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 3: would be a whole different story just saying but who knows. 46 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: Okay, So this is basically so again, Trump is a 47 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: master at this. That is his truth social post that 48 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: he made that he now has read and put out, 49 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: the video of which is like I love this, Buck, 50 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: It's like a remix edition of a popular song. Trump 51 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: was like, Hey, this this truth that I put out 52 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: did really well. Let me record a video version of 53 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: it and pop it out so it can be even 54 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: more widely disseminated. So we talked about this truth social before. 55 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: First question for you, Buck, Let's presume DeSantis announces runs, 56 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: loses to Trump. How if at all, does that impact 57 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: DeSantis in running for president in twenty twenty eight in 58 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: your mind? 59 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: So, if I'm if I'm gonna play the role here 60 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: of DeSantis cornerman for a second, here's how I would. 61 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: You know, if I'm got the towel, You got the towel, Squirt, 62 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: get in there, Rock, you gotta you gotta finish him off, Rock, 63 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: Get in there, Rock. 64 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 4: You know. 65 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: If I'm if I'm Mickey in this case, here's here's 66 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: what I would say. First of all, Hey, look at 67 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: the president right now. Who's the president right now. I'm 68 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: not even talking about the fact that you know twenty 69 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: twenty I just mean Joe Biden lost and lost and 70 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: lost again. You know, you just don't know with politics. 71 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: My point being, no one can project out what twenty 72 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 2: twenty eight looks like. Who's going to be in the spotlight. 73 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: Who's going to Remember when Chris Christy was the guy 74 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: for the GOP, Remember when Scott Walker was the guy 75 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: for the GOP, Like you go down to lest to me, 76 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: Giuliani was the guy. Erianni thought Giuliotti was going to 77 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: be the nominee. You know, there have been a number 78 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: of people that Bush nuke Gingrich had a moment, remember 79 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: nuke Gingridge people. A lot of you will remember this 80 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: nut slapped the media right across the face, so to speak, 81 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: at one of the presidential debates. This is back in 82 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: the Romney election, if I remember correctly, and it was 83 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: like a moment for him, right, all of a sudden, 84 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: Nut surged in the poll. So look, no one knows 85 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 2: what twenty twenty eight looks like. And I think that's 86 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 2: I would not find that to be compelling at all 87 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 2: as a reason to be like, well, I'll just you know, 88 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 2: I'm gonna wait or whatever, because you don't know. I 89 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: would also say, why is DeSantis the only one? Why 90 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: isn't Trump saying Nikki Haley get out of the race 91 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: or else you'll lose the MAGA vote. Well, we all 92 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: know why, because the only person who has any chance 93 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: based on I mean any numbers we've seen, would be 94 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 2: Ron DeSantis of Florida. So on the one hand, it's 95 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 2: you know, it's it's pretty straightforward. It's uh, you know, 96 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: nice governorship and political future you got there, Ron. Shame 97 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: as something happened to it, That's what Trump's saying. On 98 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 2: the other hand, it's a little bit Trump doth protest 99 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: too much he has. This guy hasn't even announced yet. 100 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: You're putting out things telling him he better not announced, 101 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: And I don't know how it will sit with people. 102 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 2: This idea that that you know, that Trump put out there, 103 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 2: that if Ron were to run and were to let's 104 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: just say, win the primary, you would have Trump voters 105 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: who wouldn't come out and rute, so they wouldn't come 106 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: out and vote for the Republican nominee against Joe Biden. 107 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 2: We want four more years of Biden. That's that's what 108 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: Trump said. So that is what he just stated in 109 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: that truth Social video. So I don't know. I don't 110 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: think it's a brushback pitch for sure, but I don't 111 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: think he's looking for the walk. 112 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: It's interesting buck the video and audio version of the tweet, 113 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: and again it's a truth social But when we say 114 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: tweet basically the same thing, it sounds different to me 115 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: on video than it did when I read it myself. 116 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Because when I read this myself, 117 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: I came on the radio and I said, it sounded 118 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: to me like Trump was hinting that he might be 119 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: interested in DeSantis as his VP. The way that that 120 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: is delivered again, it's equivocal at the end, right, because 121 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: who knows, you know, it's kind of it's kind of 122 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: letting you make your own determination about what he exactly 123 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: is hinting towards. Maybe it's, hey, i'll endorse you in 124 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight. Maybe it is hey, i'll consider you 125 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: as my VP. We'll let people out there can make 126 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: their own determinations. But I don't think it's it's so calculated. Again, 127 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: here's Trump going after DeSantis again. This has cut one 128 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: double barrel. 129 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: Listen this is just out. 130 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: I guess that Ron DeSantis is not quite as popular 131 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 3: in Florida as people thought. I assume, among other things, 132 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 3: that they don't want their Social Security cut or their 133 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: Medicare cut. Can't do that run. 134 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: So that is Trump's line of attack. I don't know 135 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: that that's gonna work because I don't think people who 136 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: have seen Rond DeSantis as governor are like, oh, this 137 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: guy has made his bones being like I'm gonna cut 138 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: social Security, I'm gonna cut Medicare, all of those things. 139 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: I don't think that line of attack works. I think 140 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: Trump is trying out a series of attacks to see 141 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: what works. 142 00:07:53,600 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: Here's here is another reality. Trump ran again Democrats in 143 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty. Right, So when Trump was running, he was 144 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: the president. So now he's never had to run against 145 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 2: a Republican field with a record of what he said 146 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: and did that he's going to have to actually explain 147 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: to people. Now. I'm not saying he can't. I'm just 148 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: saying this is a new thing for Trump. In twenty sixteen, 149 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: it was all these you know, all these compelling ideas, 150 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: amazing live performances, and you know, Crooked Hillary and the 151 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: whole thing. Right, it was the most amazing political show 152 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 2: we've ever seen in a primary. Now Trump would have 153 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 2: to explain decisions that he made as president, and people 154 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: can say it's not going to matter. He's amazing. Okay, fine, 155 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 2: but he's never done that before, and I think that 156 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: it gets a lot harder to tell. Like, you know, 157 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 2: you've noticed he's has he has he said anything about 158 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 2: how Ron wasn't good on COVID recently. 159 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: Now, I just don't think he's learned that that's a 160 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 1: bad life. 161 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: That's just not landing, that's just not landing. That's that's 162 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: actually insulting. And I say this now as a new fluidigan. 163 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: That is insulting the intelligence of your basin of your voters, 164 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 2: saying Ron can't hack it. Ron's not the man. 165 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 5: Ron. 166 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: That's all fair game. People are gonna say, okay, and 167 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: I might be all in on that, But what I 168 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: mean is Trump is never really He was able to 169 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: swat away all of his rivals in the twenty sixteen 170 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: election because it was just here are my ideas, here's 171 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 2: who I am, Here's what I'm going to do. This 172 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 2: time around, it's going to be what you know, who 173 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: did you make your top advisors in the White House. What, 174 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: by the way, I'm playing cornerman. Here, I'm playing corner 175 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 2: and I'm not saying this is going to be a 176 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: challenge that he hasn't faced before. 177 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: Here is what I would say Trump's particular genius is 178 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: as a politician. And I say this because I think 179 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: some people have learned it from him. I think a 180 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: lot of politicians still haven't. Trump is better than any 181 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: politician I have ever seen at intuiting by the reaction 182 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: of people to him, what the best message is. He's 183 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: almost like you remember Buck, There used to be those 184 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: guys who would walk around in the mall and they 185 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: would bring you in and they'd give you, like ten bucks. 186 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: This is gonna sound the start of that story sounds 187 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: kind of creepy, But when I was a kid growing up, 188 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: you give me ten bucks and they just asked you 189 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: if you would like you know. So, when I was 190 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: a kid in Goodletsville, Tennessee, at Rivergate mall, right, the 191 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: mall near me, there would be people walking around. They 192 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: were like consumer research people, and they would show you 193 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: like a television advertisement or a movie commercial, and they 194 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: would say, like, hey, rate how you like it? And 195 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: then they would take that in right, that consumer research. 196 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: They do it for all the television shows and all 197 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: the new movies and everything else. You have a dial 198 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: in front of you, and then they would give that 199 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: research to people and they would say, Hey, they really 200 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: liked this version of your movie ad. They really liked 201 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: the way that you were trying to sell a car here. 202 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: Trump does that all of his rallies and all of 203 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: the tweets and truths that he puts out. He is 204 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: incredibly good at taking back that feedback and dialing his 205 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: campaign to adjust to what people are saying they want. 206 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 2: I would just point out, you know, we've been saying 207 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 2: or you know, I think we've been I've definitely said 208 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: it on the show. I think you have too, that 209 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: the attacks on DeSantis for COVID, that that wasn't landing. 210 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 2: And I think that's obvious because Trump isn't doing that anymore. Yeah, 211 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: He's moved towards the things. So people who were you know, 212 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: anyone have thought that was unfair or were angry at 213 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: that observation. I think it was an observation of what 214 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: the reality of how the base was reacting to it 215 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 2: when Trump and I think he's going more in this direction. 216 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 2: Now he leaves open. You notice with Trump it's always 217 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: you know, it's always carrots and sticks. Right, So he 218 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 2: leaves open for DeSantis. He's like, look, you stay as governor. 219 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: We are cool as can be. Things again were alsome. Yeah, 220 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: you've got you know, you've got nothing but clear skies 221 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty eight. And so when Trump starts to 222 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: talk like that and say, look, I'm the guy that 223 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: has to be against the bid in machine. I'm the 224 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: only one that can fight against this you know, swamp 225 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 2: and all the other stuff that we know. I'm the 226 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 2: day factor leader of the Republican Party. I think Ron 227 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: is great at what he's doing now and will be 228 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: a great candidate down the line, but today's not his day. 229 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 2: I think reasonable people can hear that within the you know, 230 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: GOP base and say, you know, maybe someone find that 231 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: very compelling when they when he says that, you know, 232 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: Ron Decaytis was like getting you know, drunk with high 233 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 2: school girls and did a terrible job in COVID, It's like, 234 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 2: come on, man, that's not and he stopped doing it. 235 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: So anyone says, oh, that's unfair, excuse me. Trump realizes 236 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: this to your point about dialing it down. 237 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, And here's the question I would ask for you 238 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: and everybody else out there. Eight hundred and two A 239 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: two two eight A two. Does Trump need Desantus in 240 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: the race to be the best version of himself? Just 241 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: want everybody to think about that, because knock it out 242 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: tomato cans is not going to get you in shape 243 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: to continue the boxing metaphor when you actually have to 244 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: step in the ring and really deliver. The best thing 245 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: I can say about a competitive primary twenty sixteen made 246 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: Trump an incredible candidate because he had to go up 247 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: against so many really talented politicians and emerge the victor. 248 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: It's like if you go work out one day and 249 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: then you don't work out for six months and you 250 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: go into the gym, you do a bad job of 251 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: reflecting yourself. You need to be in there for those battles. 252 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: Does he feel just right now? But yeah, because otherwise, Buck, 253 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: just think about it. We'll talk about it when we 254 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: come back. If DeSantis doesn't run effectively, this race is 255 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: over right. You got a bunch of Trump, that's to 256 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: be fair, acolytes who hope to be in the in 257 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: his cabinet. There won't really be any fireworks. Trump is 258 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: going to be the nominee. Does he stay in fighting 259 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: shape as he moves into into the next primary he 260 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: goes against DeSantis. 261 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 2: Lines open, by the way on this one. Want to 262 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: hear from you both sides of this one. We are 263 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 2: going to air the calls from both sides, meaning you 264 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 2: think this is you know you're you're in the Trump 265 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: side on this, You're on the Desanta side on this 266 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 2: eight hundred two two two eight a two. What about 267 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: Trump's team? Yeah, I know there are a lot of 268 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: people who think that it's just Trump. It's not just Trump. Yeah, 269 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: you can't win a campaign. You can't win a multi 270 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 2: billion dollar campaign without having some people around you who 271 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: know what they're doing, especially when the Democrats figured out 272 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,119 Speaker 2: what happened in twenty sixteen, didn't allow that. Again, CNN's 273 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: not going to give him a billion dollars a free advertising, folks. 274 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: So who's the team? I think the primary is necessary 275 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 2: to get the right team in place around him too. 276 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: And have them firing on all cylinders in the same 277 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: way that the candidate is. It's interesting. Look, if insurance 278 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: important to you, you've got car insurance, you probably got 279 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: insurance on your home life insurance? 280 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: Do you have food insurance? 281 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: Have you gone out there like I have and said, Hey, 282 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen in the future. 283 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: I don't feel as comfortable about the fact that I 284 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: can roll into a grocery store and be able to 285 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: find everything as much as I did before COVID, and 286 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: I bet you don't either. 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But Clay, 314 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: if I seem at all grumpy today, which I know 315 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 2: would be a shot. 316 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: I saw this tweet and all I could think was 317 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton, baby Daddy literally is going to be a 318 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: hell of a show. 319 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a little grumpy because the Florida Division of 320 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: Emergency Management blew up my phone and my wife's phone 321 00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: at four forty five am with an alert emergency alert test. 322 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 2: So think of it two of these phones going off 323 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: at four forty five in the morning, a screeching alarm, 324 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: and they responded with, we know a four to four 325 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: This is from the Florida Division of Emergency Management. We 326 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: know a four to forty five wake up is an 327 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: ideal and then put like a laugh emoji. I do 328 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: not find this funny. People should be fired because people say, oh, 329 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: it's not the big deal, you lost the night's sleep, Clay. 330 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 2: Millions of people are going to turn off all the 331 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 2: alerts on their phones now forever because they don't want 332 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 2: to lose a night's sleep, and when the next hurricane 333 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 2: comes through, they're not going to have alerts on them. 334 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: So it's not all people who look it's not that 335 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 2: big a deal. 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Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 363 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: We are talking Trump, DeSantis and Trump basically taking the 364 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: gloves off and firing away, and a lot of you 365 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: all over the country want to react. Uh, and let's 366 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: start with Christa in a beautiful place, Saint Augustine, Florida. Christa, 367 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: you've got Desanta, says your governor Trump is just down 368 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: the road in mar A Lago running for president. How 369 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: do you assess what Trump has now said this latest attack? 370 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 6: Okay, so he needs to stop attacking the Santis. I 371 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 6: absolutely love Dasantas, I love Trump. If Trump keeps attacking 372 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 6: the Santas, I think it's going to divide the party. 373 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 6: I literally just left Rochester, New York a year ago 374 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 6: to live in the beautiful city of Saint Augustine, and 375 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 6: we would absolutely love to keep the santis as our 376 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 6: governor Trump needs another four years, but I think if 377 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 6: he keeps at packing the Santus, it's going to split 378 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 6: the party. And we need everybody to come together because 379 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 6: the Democrats that machine, they know how to work it, 380 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 6: and we'll lose again. 381 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: Christa, you said you left Rochester, New York to move 382 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: to Florida. There are tens of thousands, if not hundreds 383 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: of thousands of people who have done the same. What 384 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: was the final tipping point for you to leave New 385 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: York and go to Florida. 386 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 6: When I have a college aged son who was taking 387 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 6: classes at Genesee Community College and he got kicked out 388 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 6: because we would not get him the vaccine, and we 389 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 6: were like, we were done. They told him he could 390 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 6: not go on campus. He had to take everything remote 391 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 6: because he wasn't vaccinated, and we packed our bags a lot. 392 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: COVID, Christ, you made a right call. You may thank 393 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 2: you for the call. This is it. COVID broke so 394 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 2: many people in these Blue states. And I shouldn't say broke, 395 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 2: actually in a sense it awoke them, or know, waking 396 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 2: up is something that I'm a little bitter about right 397 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: now because of the phone call I got at four 398 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: forty five am. Wasn't a phone call, by the way, 399 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: It was like a screech noise, you know. When I 400 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 2: when I was when I was in in Irock in particular, 401 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 2: there were there would be sirens on on some of 402 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: the bases because the incoming mortar rounds, you know, and 403 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 2: I mean both of those phones going off when you're 404 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 2: you know, in the deepest of sleep kind of reminded 405 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 2: me of the of the mortar sirens. Anyway, it was. 406 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 2: I was very upset, But what was I even saying, 407 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 2: I'm very upset about this still. 408 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: Oh Christa said like the COVID shot was the final 409 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:40,959 Speaker 1: straw for her. 410 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 2: Yes, it was the COVID shot, but just also the 411 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 2: COVID policies. And you know what if if New York 412 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 2: and California and you know, go any of these blue states, Michigan, Illinois, 413 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 2: any of the places that went just all in COVID 414 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 2: manas people forget, Connecticut was actually a little better than 415 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: New York on COVID stuff. You know, the restaurants are 416 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 2: more open, Like you know, New Jersey was a little 417 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 2: better than New York was horrible. DC was probably the worst, 418 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 2: and then California was California. New York. I think in 419 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 2: the second spot, Washington, d C. Was insane, and you know, 420 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 2: all the local stuff, not obviously the Trump stuff at 421 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,239 Speaker 2: the federal level the same way. But if they had 422 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 2: come out and said, we made a mistake, we totally 423 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: overestimated this one. This will never happen again. We've learned 424 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 2: a lesson. I think a lot of people would say, 425 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 2: all right, we made it through this way. They don't 426 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: take that approach at all. In fact, they look at this, 427 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 2: and I want everyone in the Blue States remember this. 428 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: They look at it as a template of what you 429 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 2: can accomplish when you really decide that you're going to 430 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 2: seize power as a government entity. They violated the Constitution 431 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 2: and they locked people in their homes for no reason. 432 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 2: It was crazy. Let's go. 433 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: Actually, Christa just said she left Rochester, New York to 434 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: move to Saint Augustine. Well, Shane is still in Rochester, 435 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: New York. Shane, how would you break it down? 436 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would. 437 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 4: Say Desanta should say the same thing about Trump. 438 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: If anyone is capable of alienating alienating people, it would 439 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: be Trump. 440 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 6: And Trump has already had this time. 441 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 5: I would say, this is Desantuss time. 442 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: That's the best look, the best possible argument to me. 443 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 2: Thank you for the call. 444 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: Buck is DeSantis just saying, look, I love what people 445 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: in their sixties, seventies and eighties have done for this country. 446 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's eighty two. He wants to be president until 447 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: he's eighty six. If you put and I'm talking as 448 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: if I were DeSantis, if you put, and the same 449 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: thing could be said for Nicki Haley or Tim Scott 450 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: or anybody else who's thirty or forty years younger. You 451 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: put somebody who's thirty or forty years younger on a 452 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: debate stage against Joe Biden, he's going to lose. 453 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: It will make the Democrat Party look look decrepit, out 454 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 2: of touch, and absurd. If you put somebody who's almost 455 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: ad himself. It's like we're in a generaltocracy. We're in 456 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 2: a country where people who really need to be focused 457 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: on the grandkids if they have them, hopefully, they think 458 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: that they should be running the country until and basically 459 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: until the day they die. I mean they don't. You 460 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: see with Diane Feinstein, she's completely incapable of even taking care, 461 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: not even doing a job, taking care of herself. Yeah, 462 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 2: she needs round the clock care, which, by the way, 463 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 2: is fine, and we're all gone. And that's not somebody 464 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: who's eighty nine years old, right exactly. And it's amazing 465 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 2: that she's managed to, you know, live this life she's 466 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 2: led and you know, put aside the politics. I'm sure 467 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 2: she's got a big family and novering goes that's great, 468 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 2: but you're still going to be a senator. You know, 469 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 2: she's going to be casting votes about you know about 470 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 2: you know whether or not you know I have Second 471 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 2: Amendment rights, whether or not there needs to be vot 472 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: id what kind of budget we're dealing with. Her judgment 473 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: is still affecting the lives of three hundred and forty 474 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 2: million people. That is completely insane. It is unacceptable. It's 475 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: unacceptable that Joe Biden is in the same role in 476 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 2: the role like that as president. And obviously John Fetterman, 477 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 2: we saw this. Our audio yesterday didn't really do a 478 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: justice because there was like a thirty second preamble of 479 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 2: just sort of stuttering and silence and muttering, not really stuttering, 480 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 2: but muttering before Fetterman could even speak at the committee 481 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 2: hearing yesterday. And this is this is acceptable to people, To. 482 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: Democrats, Debbie and Idaho, Debbie, what you how would you 483 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: break down the latest latest punch thrown by Trump in 484 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: the in the DeSantis battle. 485 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 7: See, I don't see why how you're worried about him 486 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 7: being soft with everybody and their cousin Gillwin after him constantly, 487 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 7: and there's all these lawsuits and stuff. That's just silly 488 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 7: to worry about that. And why us up to sianis 489 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 7: he's got so many years ahead of him and we 490 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 7: need him in the party, and so once he's president, 491 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 7: he'd be done like we'd be done else. 492 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: Well, So, Debbie, what I'm saying is usually, and this 493 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: is a cliche, but iron sharpens iron in other worlds. 494 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 2: Let's use in a sports analogy. 495 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: You can't be great unless you are competing against elite 496 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: level talent. You can't become the best version of yourself. 497 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: My concern is, like we know Biden is a fragile, 498 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: awful candidate. Nobody's challenging him. He's going to be worse. 499 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: The Trump that emerged in twenty sixteen was a finally 500 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: tuned political terminator. I mean he had wiped out everybody else, 501 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: and in doing so, he had strengthened all of his 502 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: abilities of communication and political persuasion. 503 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 2: And the Trump in twenty twenty, for all of the 504 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 2: advantages of the incumbency, has not been the president of 505 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 2: the United States for the last two years. Okay, correct, 506 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: we can say what everyone about it, But did anybody. 507 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: Who watched anybody who watched buck Trump twenty sixteen debates 508 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: and compared him with Trump twenty twenty debates. The first 509 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: debate that Trump did aga against Biden was a disaster. 510 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 2: He was awful. 511 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: Now he cleaned his clock. They only had two. The 512 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 1: next debate was a knockout. Biden was done. If we 513 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: had gotten that Trump in the first debate, I think 514 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: it might have been enough to swing the election. So 515 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: I want Trump as a finally tuned political athlete. And 516 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: that's what I'm asking. Is he going to get that 517 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: against Nicky Haley and uh and Vivik Ramaswami and who's 518 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: the Michael Bolton or whoever that other guy is like? 519 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: Is that is that group gonna bring out the best 520 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: of your. 521 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,479 Speaker 2: You're forgetting excuse me, sir, excuse me, excuse me, you're 522 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 2: forgetting Asa Hutcheon. 523 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,959 Speaker 1: No offense, tod Asa Hutchinson. Although this is a huge offense, 524 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: tod Asa Hutchinson. So probably he's gonna take offense. No, 525 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: it's it would be like if you're the Dallas Cowboys 526 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: and you're scrimmaging against a pee wee youth football team. 527 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys are not getting better going against the 528 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: pee wee youth football team. That's right now, what Trump 529 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: is doing? What did he He's going against pigmies, right? 530 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: I don't think that going against pigmies is going to 531 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: make Trump a Leviathan. 532 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 2: I just think that also, I want to hear what 533 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 2: the strategy is this time. And by the way, this 534 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 2: is the point of a primary, to hash all this 535 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: stuff out, to let the people who want to be 536 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 2: president tell you. I mean, I think it's very fair 537 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 2: when people are saying, Okay, we haven't even heard what 538 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 2: Ron DeSantis's national policies are. Let's hear them before we 539 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: even say one way or the other what we think. 540 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 2: Maybe you're already against him, Maybe it'll change your mind, 541 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 2: maybe you think he's your guy. Maybe you'll be like, no, 542 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 2: Trump's the only one who can get it done. The primary. 543 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 2: We have these things for a purpose, and I think 544 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 2: it's important to remember that as we go forward here, 545 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 2: because you know, you look at the beginning, I mean, 546 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: it was going to be Ted Cruz in twenty sixteen. 547 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: At the beginning, everybody remembers, Oh, it was Ted Cruz. 548 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 2: That was what everybody thought. Not everybody, but that was 549 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 2: what But then the first polls came out, and then 550 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: all of a sudden they realize, hold on a second, 551 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: this got Trump. He's kind of like thirty percent, twenty 552 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 2: five percent, thirty percent in an eighteen person field, and 553 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 2: it was a phenomenon. 554 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: So and nobody took your in buck because they were 555 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: all like, will be the the last man standing against Trump, 556 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: and then everybody will come to their senses and I 557 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: will win. 558 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 2: Right, That was the strategy of twenty sixteen. Let's get 559 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: people both sides. What are you thinking about the latest 560 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 2: uh salvo from Trump to DeSantis eight hundred two eight 561 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 2: two two eight A two. 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So funny, isn't it Because 591 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 2: most of the billionaires I can think of are huge 592 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 2: Democrats and write enormous checks to Democrats. But they pretend 593 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 2: the two things the Democrats get away with that is 594 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 2: just shamefully dishonest. Well, actually, I can't say the two things. 595 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 2: There's a million things they but two things that they 596 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,719 Speaker 2: do that really bother me is pretending that Wall Street 597 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 2: is Republican and billionaires are Republican. This is just because 598 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 2: they're pseudo Marxists and they talk about the redistribution of 599 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 2: wealth and wealth inequality and all this stuff and don't 600 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 2: want everybody to know that. Like all comies from history, 601 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 2: they just want to be rich and in charge and 602 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 2: everyone else gets to worry about having their stuff taken 603 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 2: and redistributed to other people. That's the way that it is. 604 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 2: By the way, I will say, do you see Glenn 605 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 2: Greenwald on his rumble show Clay yesterday, did this whole 606 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,719 Speaker 2: like forty five minute long takedown of just all of 607 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 2: the people on the left, not all of them, but 608 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 2: a number of very high profile people who are massive frauds, 609 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 2: and just this notion of how like there are people 610 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,719 Speaker 2: that are you know, digital, have big digital online followings 611 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 2: who are like, I'm socialists and they live in multimillion 612 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 2: dollar their homes, you know, and of course you know 613 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 2: they living like five million dollars four million dollar host 614 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 2: that he talks about the but the best thing is 615 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: the uh, the plane, the private plane people. John Kerry 616 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 2: is number one, and so I give full credit to 617 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 2: Glenn Greenwald, who's a man of the left, but a 618 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 2: principled one. So he actually gets upset about this stuff. 619 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 2: You know that they now what they all just say 620 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 2: as well, I buy offsets. And I think Glenn had 621 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 2: about their private jet travel. I think Glenn had a 622 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 2: brilliant point. It is it is a monologue on this. 623 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 2: He said, Okay, but this is about saving the planet. 624 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 2: How about just fly commercial and buy the offsets. You're 625 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 2: a billionaire, Yeah, well it's your point. What I also, 626 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 2: no one has a good response for the number of 627 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 2: people who opposed building a wall uh down on our 628 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 2: southern border and live in gated communities. It is amazed 629 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 2: the charts amazing, it's off the charts, bucket. And you know, 630 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 2: when I was in Italy, I was having fun. You know, 631 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 2: we went to some of those old gated cities like 632 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 2: Siena and San Germano. They're beautiful. 633 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: You know, Wall's kind of worked pretty well historically, right, 634 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: the Gray Wall of China kind of a success. 635 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 2: Anyway. I just I always think that's. 636 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: Amazing when you live in a gated community or you 637 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: live on the beach and you are against climate change 638 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: and or against protecting this othern ble. 639 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 2: The central point that Greenwald was making was just that 640 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 2: the left has created this excuse machinery of as long 641 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,239 Speaker 2: as you have the right politics, you can live your 642 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 2: life in total opposition to the thing that you say 643 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 2: is the most important thing in the world. And this 644 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 2: is laughable. This is absolutely absurd. Right, there's nothing about 645 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: this that should be justifiable. But you know, it really 646 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 2: is all just sort of a virtue sibling cult of narcissism. 647 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 2: That's a big a democrat is today. But we'll talk 648 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 2: about that more another time. Let's get Roy in Houston, Texas. Roy, 649 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 2: great to speak to you, sir. What's going on? 650 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 5: Hey, guys, Hey, thank you for taking my call. First 651 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 5: of all, well, I think Trump knows what he's doing. 652 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 5: But all these people saying, oh, well, they would just 653 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 5: get along. Look, when I go to a heavyweight fight, 654 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 5: I don't want them to get along. We want to 655 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 5: say him, boot the crap out of each other. Whoever wins, 656 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 5: they can shake hands when it's over and then we 657 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 5: can move on down the road. But whoever it is, 658 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 5: it's got to be a LORI lightfoot beat down. We've 659 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 5: got to win this by a big margin, so you know, 660 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 5: we can't afford to lose another one. 661 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, it's electoral, it's electoral payback time. Thank you 662 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 2: for calling in on a on KTRH down there in Houston. 663 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 2: I just say, because we're talking to Houston. Ted Cruz 664 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 2: obviously a centaer, lives in the Houston area. You know, 665 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 2: I think he deserves I think he deserves credit because 666 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 2: he probably got the worst of Trump twenty sixteen in 667 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 2: terms of the you know, the cuts and bruises, and 668 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 2: when Trump was in office, Ted was totally on board 669 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 2: and supporting the president and honestly one of his most 670 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 2: eloquent defenders and explainers on policy issues and kind of 671 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 2: you know, has a sense of humor about it and 672 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 2: has moved on. So you know, I mean some of 673 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 2: the things that were said about Ted Cruise are pretty crazy. Yeah. 674 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 1: I mean, look, politics are nasty business, and you got 675 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: to have a super thick skin. And I love the 676 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: analogy of you want to go fight, you want to 677 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,439 Speaker 1: go watch you know, Mike Tyson Evander Holyfield fight back 678 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: in the day, Remember Mike Tyson bit Evander Holyfield's ear. 679 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: He tried to bite his ear off. These fights get nasty, 680 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,919 Speaker 1: and that doesn't even consider all the craziness that goes 681 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: on in the UFC on a regular basis. Cameron in Raleigh, 682 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 1: North Carolina, how would you assess what you're hearing? 683 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 5: Hey? 684 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 4: There, So I didn't see the latest thing about that 685 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 4: Trump said about the Fantis. But with regard to what 686 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 4: it makes me feel, I've always been a Trump supporter. 687 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 4: But today, if I had to vote today, I'd vote 688 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 4: for the Fantis all day long over Trump. 689 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 2: Why would you make that choice? 690 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 4: Because with Trump, I've always been Trump. But when he 691 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 4: started running down Ron DeSantis as good a governor as 692 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 4: Ron DeSantis has been, with everything he's done for Florida, 693 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 4: I mean, when Trump started running him down, he lost me. 694 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 2: He lost. Look, we really appreciate the call out to 695 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 2: say this. I mean, to me, Ron de Santes is 696 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 2: the best governor in America. I don't think that's really 697 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 2: from the GOP side. I don't think that's There's some 698 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 2: other very good ones, but I think he's the best 699 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 2: governor America. Question is why we're having a primary? Should 700 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 2: he be the GOP nominee? 701 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 3: Right? 702 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 2: Different? Thing, different skill set but similar in some ways. 703 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 2: So we'll continue to hear out everybody on this one. 704 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 2: And speaking of senators, Florida Senator Rick Scott, a lot 705 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 2: of Florida today. Clay, he's joining us in a few minutes. 706 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 2: We're talking about the debt ceiling fight, which some are 707 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 2: saying Clay could be a Donnie Brook. Oh, you're still 708 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 2: in my word.