1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and welcome to Steffan never told 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: your production of iHeartRadio. And yes it's me still flying solo, 3 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: but Samantha is around. She will be back hopefully she 4 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: is on vacation. Although this one I'm recording a bit preamptively, 5 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: I guess, just in case to have because it's an 6 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: evergreen topic. It's just been on my mind and it 7 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: goes along with the theme we've been talking about, which 8 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: is disaster movies, and especially nineties disaster movies. But okay, 9 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: so today for the subsub sub subsub segment of fictional 10 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: women around the world, we are talking about doctor Joe Harding, 11 00:00:53,200 --> 00:01:00,639 Speaker 1: who's from the nineteen ninety six movie Twister. I loved 12 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: this movie as a kid. I loved it so much 13 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: I sought out other Helen Hunt movies, like movies that 14 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: would have never interested me because I loved her so 15 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: much in this movie, and I briefly toyed with being 16 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: a stormchaser, as did like a lot of people in 17 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: my age group. But the reason I was thinking about 18 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: it is one of the most amazing things I saw 19 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: at dragon com this year. I actually didn't see it, 20 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: but I saw it that through someone else's clips social media. 21 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: Was a reenactment of a scene from Twister, a dramatic scene, 22 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: and it involved cows. It involved a flailing tornado. It 23 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: involved some pretty decent accents in acting, and I loved 24 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: it. It was one of the funniest things I saw, and 25 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: so I wanted to talk about this and this movie. 26 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: I did watch it probably once a year. It always 27 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: makes me want steak and eggs. And it reminds me 28 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: of the incredibly dramatic and now defunct ride Rosa Studios, 29 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: which I'm about to go too. So that's another reason 30 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: I've been thinking about it. That and The Mummy, which 31 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: I hope that ride doesn't. I keep hearing rumors fire 32 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: getting rid of it. I hope that's not true. But 33 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: you can find YouTube clips of the Twister ride. It's 34 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: very dramatic. It's full of amazing quotes. Me and my 35 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: friends used to quote it back to each other all 36 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: of the time. You basically kind of walked through this 37 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: you know thing and learned about tornadoes, and then you'd 38 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: walk through sets and you'd see destroyed houses and then 39 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: at the end, like you'd see the cows fly in 40 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: front of you and something would spark and catch fire 41 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: and fall over, I swear to I kind of stand 42 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: and watch ride, I guess, but I liked it. Apparently 43 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: there is a sequel coming out in twenty twenty four 44 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: called Twisters. Very interested about that. Okay, yes, let's get 45 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: into this one. This one will probably be a bit shorter. 46 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: So this does go in tandem with our conversation. So 47 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: we've been having around doctor Ellie Satler from Dress Park 48 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: and Evy from The Mummy. But in the nineties there 49 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: was a bunch of your kind of science intelligible women, 50 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: which sounds so condescending, but there were usually movie magic 51 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: science at least somewhat in these movies. Because I have 52 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: heard a lot of pretty embracing critiques of the science 53 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: of this particular movie, and one was Helen Hunt's doctor 54 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: Joe Harding, the meteorologist at the center of the nineteen 55 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: ninety six film Twister. I also want to say I 56 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: was thinking about this, and I was thinking about another 57 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: character I want to do that was pretty important to 58 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: me during this time, who was in the field of science, 59 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: Sam Carter from Stargate played by Amanda Tapping, And I 60 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: do want to talk about her, but I try not 61 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: to have too many well oh, white women with blonde 62 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: hair and blue eyes, so I try to space that 63 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: out a little bit. I'm not saying that they weren't important, 64 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: but it is important also to keep that in mind. 65 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: So just a note about that, because I'm trying to 66 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: fill in for some stuff while Samantha's out. I'm doing 67 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: these somewhat easier for me topics. But just a note, 68 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: Just a note about that, and also this movie. A 69 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: couple of notes about this movie, because it does have 70 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: a few notable things to it. It made a lot 71 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: of money. It got a few Oscar nominations. I mean 72 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: mostly like sound and effects, but still got some Oscar nominations. 73 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to that sounds like I'm saying those 74 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: aren't worth it, but they are. Just to specify. It 75 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: has a museum in Wikita where a lot of the 76 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: movie takes place. I almost got the chance to go once, 77 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: but then we couldn't do it. And it was the 78 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: first film to be released on DVD in the U. 79 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: From what I read, it was in part written by 80 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: Joss Whedon, but he left it multiple points due to 81 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: illness and then marriage. Laura dern Ellie Sadler was originally 82 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: going to play this role. A bunch of other big 83 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: actors too. Jan Dubant directed it, and he was, by 84 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: most accounts, difficult to work with. He insisted it be 85 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: filmed in Oklahoma instead of on a sound stage because 86 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: it might be the last great action film not filmed 87 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: on a sound stage. That's paraphrasing, but that's basically what 88 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: he said. And there were a lot of injuries. Helen 89 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: Hunt and Bill Paxton were both temporarily blinded by a 90 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: special effect. They both had to get hepatitis shots after 91 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: filming in unsanitary conditions. Hunt allegedly got a concussion from 92 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: being so exhausted from the shoot and hitting her head. 93 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: It was actually two instances where she might have gotten 94 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: a concussion. Dubant said basically, Oh, I love her, but 95 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: she's comes, and Hunt replied, clumsy. The guy burned my retinas, 96 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: but I'm clumsy. I thought I was a good sport. 97 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: I don't know ultimately if he on chalks me up 98 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: as that or not, but one would hope. So, yeah, 99 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: it's pretty sounds like she's got a pretty good point there. 100 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: Crew members left the production because they felt Debonte was 101 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: out of control. He apparently hit a camera assistant out 102 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: of frustration, and others were injured on set too, So 103 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: it just sounded like it was not very safe working conditions. 104 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: And when we think about what people are fighting for 105 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: in the strike and the writer's strike and the actor's 106 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: strike and what has happened before on sets, like it's important. 107 00:06:51,040 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: It's important, all right, Let's break down this character and 108 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: the plot. It's a fairly simple plot. It starts with 109 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: Joe as a child losing her father during a tornado, 110 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: an incident that drove her to pursue a career in 111 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: meteorology with the main goal of improving the warning system 112 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: when it comes to tornadoes. To that end, she leads 113 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: a scrappy group of stormchasers, a group that used to 114 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: include her ex husband Bill Harding played by Bill Paxson, 115 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: who returns with his new girlfriend, therapist doctor Melissa, reeves 116 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: to get Joe to sign the divorce papers. When he arrives, 117 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: she shows him Dorothy, which is this design that they 118 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: came up with together that essentially was going to release 119 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: censors into the heart of the tornado to get accurate 120 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: readings that will help them understand and predict tornadoes, However, 121 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: someone would have to get close to the tornado to 122 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: deploy it. An incoming tornado distracts them before Joe can 123 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: sign the divorce papers, and she and the team rushes away, 124 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: and Bill and Melissa follow because they realize she hasn't 125 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: signed the papers. They also encounter their fancy city rivals 126 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: who have more funding tornado tornado chasing. Wise through some circumstances, 127 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: Bill and Joe end up sheltering under a bridge and 128 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: Joe's truck gets destroyed. Bill reluctantly agrees to lend her 129 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: his truck. Many tornado chases and sue. Melissa is more 130 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: and more concerned about this lifestyle. They visit Joe's aunt 131 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: and Wikita for food, and she nudges Joe, implying that 132 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: she and Bill are still in love. She's sort of like, 133 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: maybe you should think about this, think about getting back together. 134 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: Melissa learns about Joe's past with tornadoes, and then they 135 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: go to chase another tornado and try to deploy Dorothy, 136 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: but it's knocked over. All the sensors fall out and 137 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: Bill tries to get Joe to retreat with him, but 138 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: she is determined and the whole thing builds up into 139 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: a fight over her motivations about her father's death, over 140 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: and why they broke up, which is all broadcast over 141 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: walkie talkies for Melissa to hear the whole team. But Melissa, 142 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: and this is where the quote that I got to 143 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: see this whole scene is what they were reenacting at 144 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: Dragon Con. You've never seen it. Missed that house and 145 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: missed this house and come after you. They did it 146 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: way better. But so after this happens, they're staying in 147 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: a small town to repair their vehicles. Joe signs to 148 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: the divorce papers. Another tornado hits while they're watching the 149 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: shining and there's a lot of legends behind this actually, 150 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: and then the tornado heads towards Joe's and Keta. So 151 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: there's kind of this moment of like, well, what are 152 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 1: you gonna do? Where you're gonna go? Bill and Melissa, 153 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: and the relationship between her and Bill is basically like 154 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: this life is not for me, but maybe you and 155 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: Joe can work it out. And he goes with Joe 156 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: to rescue her aunt who is injured and says that 157 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: they barely had any warning. Through her yard decorations, they 158 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: are inspired to modify their Dorothy design just as a 159 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: weather prediction informs them a huge tornado is probably going 160 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: to come through, and it does a huge tornado in 161 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: F five And despite debris of all kinds driving through houses, explosions, 162 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: the death of their competitors, their fancy city competitors, and 163 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: the truly unbelievable lend scene, they deploy Dorothy. They get 164 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: the data, they kiss, they missed that house, and it 165 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: missed that house, and it came after them. So that's 166 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: pretty much it. But I did love it. There are 167 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: a couple of things when I was thinking about this 168 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: I picked up on. One is we've talked about this before, 169 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: but sort of that trend of giving women and what 170 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: is seen as a more masculine space a masculine name 171 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: being that. And she's pretty. I mean, she wears very 172 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: u sensible clothes for the field cheese in she has 173 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: plenty of instances where she gets very very dirty, and 174 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: it's not seen as like this isn't her place, this 175 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: isn't where she should be, similar to Ellie what we 176 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: talked about in that Jurassic Park episode. But that being said, 177 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: there's also Melissa Bill's fiance later not fiance ex fiance 178 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: she's the foil to Joe. She's the kind of uptight 179 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: city woman who is definitely the butt of a lot 180 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: of jokes that she doesn't like. This is way too 181 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: much like fatty food on my plate, or I don't 182 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: want to get dirty, or I don't want to do 183 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: this or do this. She does have some instances where 184 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: like she drives that truck, she dodges his debris, She's 185 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: screaming the whole way, but I think that's fair. She's 186 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: also mocked for being a therapist, which the nineties was 187 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: all that we talked about that in our Sex and 188 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: the City episodes. But I do think that she has 189 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: a good moment where she doesn't hate Joe. Joe doesn't 190 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: hate her, but she just sort of realizes it isn't 191 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: going to work. She is often played as a joke, 192 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: but is sort of humanized in that way, but also 193 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: sort of dismissed, like she's a very clearly a good 194 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: plot point to get them back together. I guess I 195 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: just like that they weren't pitted against each other so 196 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: much of trying to get Bill Paxton. It felt like 197 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: there wasn't any animosity between them, and it was more 198 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: about him figuring out what he really wanted, and her 199 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: kind of realizing like, oh, if that's if that's truly 200 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: what you want, then that's not what I want. I 201 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: do think it's also supposed to be sort of a 202 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 1: commentary on Bill Paxon's character wanting to go corporate as 203 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: a weatherman on TV and the more rough countryside of 204 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: being in the field. So Melissa versus Joe. I have 205 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: read a lot of stuff recently that I'm interested to 206 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: come back to about the trip of the Good Divorced Husband. 207 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot to unpackt there, but just 208 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: a note about that. And then also, yeah, women in 209 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: stim as unrealistic as this may have been, it did. 210 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: I was into it. I was like, oh, well, maybe 211 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: this is what I want to do. And she seemed 212 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: so competent and she wasn't really sexualized to me, so 213 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: I just remember thinking like, ow, that'd be cool. I 214 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 1: could go out and do this and this and this 215 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: again not realistic, quite dangerous, don't do it unless you 216 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: know what you're doing. But yeah, it was an important 217 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: character to me. So if you want, you can find 218 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: that video. I've been mentioning that I saw a dragon 219 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: con it's amazing and I recommend it, but in the meantime, yes, 220 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: this is what I have to say about it for now. 221 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: If you would like to send your suggestions in you can. 222 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: Our email is Stephanie moms Stuff at iHeartMedia dot com. 223 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter Moms of podcast, and 224 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: on Instagram and TikTok at Stuff I've Never Told You. 225 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: We have a tea public story. We also have a 226 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: book that you can order now, Stuff you should read 227 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: book dot com. 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