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Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. We are thrilled

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Speaker 1: to sit down with fullback Pat Recard, Project, Pat Pancake, Pat,

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Speaker 1: all the nicknames you will start here. You guys are

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Speaker 1: running the ball at a historic clip. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you know this, but Derek Henry's on pace to

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Speaker 1: break the single season rushing record Eric Dickerson's record. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so if that happens, I mean, you got to get

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Speaker 1: the kudos for being the lead blocker, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you go in the Hall of Fame too, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean you got to give credit to Derek. You know,

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Speaker 2: the on line myself, but I mean Derek's one of one.

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Speaker 2: You know, it takes a special back to have those

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Speaker 2: kind of yards. And I'm just so glad in honor

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Speaker 2: to be his teammate and to lead block for him.

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Speaker 2: It's been a lot of fun so far, and you know,

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Speaker 2: we keep this sing going and you know, let's try

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Speaker 2: to get that record for him.

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Speaker 1: We asked this of Tyler Linderbaum last week. But how

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Speaker 1: much does it hurt? And how much do you not

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Speaker 1: want Derek to run into your back like when you're

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Speaker 1: trying to block?

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Speaker 2: So what's funny? Is in training camp trying to get

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Speaker 2: you know, used to playing with him. When I'm in

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Speaker 2: the ball snapped, I'm running to get my block. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: I need to kind of read it out to see

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Speaker 2: where I'm going. Yeah, and maybe I slowed down a

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Speaker 2: little bit, and I've done that in the past, and

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Speaker 2: it's been fun, you know, back to maybe put their

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Speaker 2: hand on my back or their patient too.

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Speaker 1: He's getting the ball and he's hitting it.

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Speaker 2: Full speed, so he's in the past in training camp. Y,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm trying to read my block out and

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Speaker 2: getting used to it. He'll just put his hand in

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Speaker 2: my back and he's knocked me to my knees, like

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Speaker 2: that's never happened before running back, but he's so strong.

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Speaker 2: I'm not like now, it's like, as soon as the

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Speaker 2: ball snapped, I have to be full speed, making sure

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Speaker 2: my read is as fast as possible to hit it

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Speaker 2: as fast as possible because he's trying to hit the

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Speaker 2: ball downhill very fast. So yeah, it's it's not fun

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Speaker 2: to get a stiff farm in the back box.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of funny because when he asked litterbal on

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Speaker 3: the question too, he was like, yeah, the other day

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Speaker 3: I walked through.

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Speaker 4: He ran into my back and it hurt. I was like,

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Speaker 4: watch out, man. You guys have actually had.

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Speaker 3: To deal with being on the receiving end of a

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Speaker 3: Derrick Henry stiffarm. So I'm curious for you, Like you've

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Speaker 3: been part of some great teams, great offenses here, but

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Speaker 3: like this group is playing at such a high level.

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Speaker 3: It's different guys every week. It's running the ball, it's

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Speaker 3: passing the ball. I feel like this is the best

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Speaker 3: offense that I've ever seen the Ravens have. You've been

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Speaker 3: part of the team for a long time. What do

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Speaker 3: you think about that? Is this the best Ravens offense

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Speaker 3: you've been part of?

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Speaker 1: I mean, so far we've played seven games. It's hard

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Speaker 2: I've had a lot of great offenses here, a lot

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Speaker 2: of record breaking offenses, but I'd probably say it's probably

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Speaker 2: the best complete offense. You know, we can pass the ball,

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Speaker 2: we can run the ball, screens, play actions, different type

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Speaker 2: of runs, different past concepts. There's so many guys involved,

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Speaker 2: you know. I think it's just I think it's just

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Speaker 2: great coaching. I think second year with Munkin, I think

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Speaker 2: Lamar has been here for a long time. A lot

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Speaker 2: of similar guys that's been here and then you know,

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Speaker 2: the only big change has been the initiative Derrick Henry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I.

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Speaker 4: Think vision yeah nicely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think I think it's just like everything

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Speaker 2: that's been here in the addition with him and just

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Speaker 2: the growth that we've all had as a group and individuals,

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Speaker 2: it's really just taken off and you know, we're still growing,

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Speaker 2: still learning together. But yeah, it's it's been a it's

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Speaker 2: been a lot of fun so far.

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Speaker 3: One thing that's crazy about you is like, I think

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Speaker 3: the last time we had you on the podcast, it

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Speaker 3: was going into the first year with Monkey and we're

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Speaker 3: talking about what's the role going to look like? And

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Speaker 3: you were they were talking of you playing guard, and

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Speaker 3: it's like, is there a full is there a need

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Speaker 3: for a fullback in this off? Like that was the conversation.

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Speaker 3: Now in the second year, those aren't even questions that anymore.

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Speaker 3: Obviously your role is very well defined and you're playing

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Speaker 3: at such a high level. So how do you look

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Speaker 3: back at like that whole conversation and how you have

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Speaker 3: been able to really assert yourself as an impact player?

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Speaker 1: Are you retiring guard guard? Zero?

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Speaker 2: It is more of like I was dealing with like

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Speaker 2: my hipsterart during the off season. It was my agent

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Speaker 2: ass that came up with the idea of me like, well,

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Speaker 2: I just like I don't look at guard and you

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Speaker 2: can't do anything right now and anyways, like let's kind

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Speaker 2: of see if it's even like an option for me.

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Speaker 2: And I was so against it, but I'm like, you know,

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Speaker 2: I would regret not just looking at it kind of see.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I didn't you know, I had a

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Speaker 2: I was getting back didn't really I didn't see myself

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Speaker 2: having a career future in it, even if I was

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Speaker 2: good at her or not. I like what I do

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Speaker 2: now a lot better. So like, so having go through

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Speaker 2: knew that there's a role for me here. I just

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Speaker 2: got to keep growing, keep getting better and you know,

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Speaker 2: keep doing what I've been doing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's what's the look that you see from opponents

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Speaker 1: when they see you and Derek coming downhill.

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Speaker 2: Out there's a lot of people in the box. There's

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Speaker 2: to the spot, or they're trying to meet me in

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Speaker 2: the backfield. I've noticed that a lot this year, that

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Speaker 2: when Dere's getting the ball and I'm leaplocking and say

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Speaker 2: it's like a lead play, or we're tossing the ball

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Speaker 2: on the edge. Fat games where I'm getting I'm meeting

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Speaker 2: like they're trying to like, don't let me gain speed

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Speaker 2: cast space. I think that's the biggest difference is I've

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Speaker 1: Yeah, have you gotten any comments out there, like anybody

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Speaker 1: that's like this, you know, this isn't fair. Two guys

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Speaker 1: this big, this isn't allowed.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: I think I think they're probably trying to save their energy.

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Speaker 1: More angry. They're not going to give you the props

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Speaker 3: Do you feel that, like the cliche is that this

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Speaker 3: offense and running game where's people down, you're better in

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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, Like, do you feel that on the field?

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Speaker 2: I definitely do. And then especially games where maybe we're

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Speaker 2: like the Cincinnati game, where it's just like a just

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Speaker 2: we're passing the ball, moving the ball, and I come

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Speaker 2: in the game towards the end, I feel feel how

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Speaker 2: the energy, you don't feel like the the when I

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Speaker 2: hit them, you don't feel like the power in them

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Speaker 2: as much. But yeah, even when we're running the ball

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Speaker 2: laying games, you kind of just feel like they're defeated.

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Speaker 2: They're deflated or just tired in general.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, it seems like you really, especially coming out like

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Speaker 1: early in the first quarter, you will try to set

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Speaker 1: Is that something that you take pride in, like you

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Speaker 1: are trying to make a statement.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just trying to like set the tone for

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Speaker 2: And sometimes it might be a little little much even

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Speaker 2: like why not, you know, like make sure he feels

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Speaker 4: Do you see yourself as like a tone center for

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Speaker 1: I think yeah, I think yeah.

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Speaker 2: Physicality, you know, I think that I kind of set

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Speaker 2: the standards. You know, we have a lot of physical guys,

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Speaker 2: but I'm the one that's more out in space and

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Speaker 2: I feel like, so it's like I have to make

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Speaker 1: That the toss left play has been kind of the

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Speaker 1: finishing move as I've been calling it in a few games.

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Speaker 1: And then it was what stretched left this past game

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Speaker 1: and you again met a guy in the backfield put

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Speaker 1: him on his back. Yep. Well yeah, what is what

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Speaker 1: is the feeling when they when Todd calls stretched left

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Speaker 2: Those are the plays where I know I have to,

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Speaker 2: like as soon as I know that ball is being snapped,

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Speaker 2: I know it's like this play can hit. It can

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Speaker 2: either hit for five yards or can it for eighty

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Speaker 2: the same thing with playing on Lamar over the years.

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Speaker 2: It's like, you guys so excited to block for this

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Speaker 2: what happening with Derek is like, is if I can

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Speaker 2: hard for someone to tackle in an open space. He's

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Speaker 2: either going to stiff arm you, make you miss, and

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Speaker 2: then he's just gone.

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Speaker 3: Right now, Pat last question for me is you've played

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Speaker 3: with Lamar for a long time. Now you know him

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Speaker 3: well he when he joined us before the season on

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Speaker 3: the pot actually he talked about having a sense of

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Speaker 3: urgency and just having a real just their resurgency. So

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Speaker 3: everything he was doing and wanting to make sure that

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Speaker 3: this team did everything they could to get as far

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Speaker 3: as you guys can this year.

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Speaker 4: Do you sense that from him?

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Speaker 2: Definitely, you just it's hard to describe. Like I know,

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Speaker 2: I've been playing with him for my whole career with

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Speaker 2: him vice versa. So it's like you always felt that

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Speaker 2: with him, but I think he maybe shows it more

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Speaker 2: Like I think it's more of like he's more urgent

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Speaker 3: The Crown is yours, So Ryan, the Ravens are headed

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Speaker 1: The crown yours? It should be. The crown is Derek Henry.

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Speaker 3: They have a good defense in particular, I mean their

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Speaker 3: But I think that this defense is good. Miles Garrett

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Speaker 1: To be They're going to get up in your face,

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Speaker 1: I think it's funny and it just it just when

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Speaker 1: Right. Well, one thing that you're definitely gonna have to

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Speaker 4: That, because that's don't think so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's been so good against it is, so

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Speaker 3: I just am really wondering.

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Speaker 1: But he's been really good also not against the blitz.

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Speaker 1: So I said he's been better against the blitz than not.

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Speaker 1: It's by a slim margin. Yeah, that's kind of like

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a coin flip right now. He's playing

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Speaker 1: well regardless. Like I also think if you just sit

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Speaker 1: back and let go in the zone coverage and let

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Speaker 1: Lamar and these receivers just slice and dice you. He's

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Speaker 1: throwing ball so accurately that that's not going to work either.

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Speaker 1: Nothing has worked so far, so thus I think that

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Speaker 1: defenses will continue to kind of be like, this is

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Speaker 1: our bread and butter, this is what we do. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna make him prove it against us that he can

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Speaker 1: beat the blitz.

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Speaker 3: I think that I've said this before, but I think

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Speaker 3: that what it comes down to, going back to Miles Garrett,

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Speaker 3: the way that this Ravens offense can struggle is if

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Speaker 3: you have a game rerecord up front, and Miles Garrett

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Speaker 3: has that potential. But I don't think that the Ravens

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Speaker 3: will have a good plan there, and I think that

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Speaker 3: we'll do a good job containing him. But if it's

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Speaker 3: the third quarter of this game, or we're sitting there saying,

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Speaker 3: how is this such a close game? And I can't

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Speaker 3: believe this, expecting the Ravens run away with this thing,

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Speaker 3: and it's a three point game here going into the fourth,

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Speaker 3: what's going on? It's probably because you're looking at it,

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Speaker 3: Miles Garrett has two sacks and a four s fumble,

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Speaker 3: Like that's probably what the scenario is. If the Ravens

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Speaker 3: end up being in a really really tight battle, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Or yeah, and mistakes, you know, they've they've hurt themselves

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Speaker 1: at times. You know, they had some of those mistakes

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Speaker 1: with penalties in Tampa Bay. We've seen it earlier in

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Speaker 1: the year. You you can't turn the ball over. You

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Speaker 1: can't whenever you're facing a team that you're definitely better than,

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Speaker 1: which I think is the case this week. How you

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Speaker 1: lose games is by turnovers, penalties, costly errors, not converting

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Speaker 1: in the red zone, things like that. And the Ravens

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Speaker 1: I think have cleaned a lot of that stuff up.

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Speaker 1: They've taken care of the ball. Well. Penalties are a

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Speaker 1: little bit of an issue against Tampa Bay, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: they need to play a clean game. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So when you look at.

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Speaker 3: The Browns team, especially their offense, the big thing. There's

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Speaker 3: really three major things that have happened in the last

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Speaker 3: week for them. One is Deshaun Watson towards Achilles and

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Speaker 3: has done for the season, so now Jameis Winston has

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Speaker 3: been inserted into the starting line for them. The second

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Speaker 3: is that their offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey is now taking

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Speaker 3: over the play calling duties from Kevin Stefanski. The head

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Speaker 3: coach who had previously done. And the third thing is

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Speaker 3: Nick Chubb coming back from his major knee injury. He

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Speaker 3: returned last week, did score a touchdown. Limited worked for him,

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Speaker 3: but he did get in the end zone against the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: I think he had eleven carries for twenty two yards.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it wasn't like a big day for him,

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Speaker 3: but he did get in the end zone. And he's

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Speaker 3: like the emotional heartbeat of that team, especially for the offense.

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Speaker 1: So let Wyatt teller offense, very good guard for them.

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Speaker 1: It was back in practice. We'll see if he plays,

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Speaker 1: but if he does, that would also be big for

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Speaker 1: the airline.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The quarterback thing obviously is the biggest and Jameis Winston.

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Speaker 3: You know, I actually talked with John Harball about this

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Speaker 3: this week and it's like, so you have Jameis Winston.

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Speaker 3: It's new, new offense in some ways with play calling

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Speaker 3: changing and a new quarterback, Like does that affect things?

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Speaker 4: And he said, yeah, I mean there's a bit of

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Speaker 4: an unknown.

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Speaker 3: It's a little bit like at the start of a

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Speaker 3: season when you're going to face a team and how

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Speaker 3: what are they going to look like? How are they

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Speaker 3: going to call things, it's gonna be a little bit different,

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Speaker 3: Like it's it's not like they're blowing up their system.

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Speaker 3: It's still their same system, but the Ravens are expecting

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Speaker 3: some things to change. So I think that early on

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Speaker 3: there's the there's the potential that the Browns could catch

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Speaker 3: the Ravens off guard on some things because it's new

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Speaker 3: and they haven't seen it before. And so I think

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Speaker 3: that like that, there's there's an there's an element of

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Speaker 3: of newness to what the Browns are doing with a

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Speaker 3: new quarterback and a new play caller that could be

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Speaker 3: a bit of a challenge for this defense.

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Speaker 1: I think it's more. I think it's more kind of

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Speaker 1: on Cleveland side that like James Winston can chuck it

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Speaker 1: right like he's he's kind of the gunslinger kind of

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Speaker 1: in the Baker Mayfield mold a little bit. And you know,

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Speaker 1: Bieker's playing at a really high level. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: sit here and say Jamis is at that level right now,

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Speaker 1: but like he'll chuck it on you. And what I

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Speaker 1: would be concerned about is like he comes out unless

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Speaker 1: then he comes out hot and they get some confidence

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Speaker 1: that they haven't had in that offense. In a long time.

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Speaker 1: The play callers down up some good plays and they

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Speaker 1: hit the Ravens for a couple and like, okay, all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, like now this offense that's really just

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Speaker 1: been on a slog all year long gets some win

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Speaker 1: behind its sales. That would be like this scenario, I

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Speaker 1: think that I'd be like, oh boy, all right, this

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Speaker 1: is gonna be a game like buckle up.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: Nick Chubb's Nick Chubb. I have a lot of respect

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Speaker 1: for Nick Chub. I just think he's like that he's

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Speaker 1: a professional running back. He knows just like how to

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Speaker 1: run the ball. Kind of reminds me like Jake and

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Speaker 1: Dobbinson that way, like dudes who just know how to

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Speaker 1: run the ball, and Derek Henry of course one of them.

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Speaker 1: And I think that Nick Chubb Blake kind of knocking

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Speaker 1: off some rusts in the first week also, that will

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Speaker 1: be he'll be a guy to watch in this game

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Speaker 1: and the Ravens. Zach Orr said that they expect that

548
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Speaker 1: was kind of like the appetizer last week, that this

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Speaker 1: is the game that they want to get Nick Chub

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Speaker 1: rolling right.

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Speaker 3: And you do you do wonder when there's a quarterback

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Speaker 3: change like Deshaun Watson obviously was struggling for them, Like

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Speaker 3: does that it does that provide?

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Speaker 1: Does that invigorate them a little bit?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: And there's potential for that, especially the games who who

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Speaker 3: plays with attitude and energy and has that gunsling your

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Speaker 3: metality like you're talking about. So all of that I

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Speaker 3: think will be a factor for this defense. They got

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Speaker 3: the turnovers last week which really changed the game. Marlon

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Speaker 3: Hofer had the two picks. I think getting those turnovers,

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Speaker 3: like Jamis throws the ball up there, and so the

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Speaker 3: Ravens coming up with takeaways in this game that could

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Speaker 3: that could quiet with the scenario that we're talking about here,

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Speaker 3: Like you're talking about them coming out and throwing the

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Speaker 3: ball around the yard and having the early success and

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Speaker 3: hitting some big plays. Well if you if you squashed

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Speaker 3: that early by getting the takeaway, then it could be

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Speaker 3: a much difference.

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Speaker 1: Then here we go end kind of feeling for their

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Speaker 1: offense and in that stadium and the Browns fans are

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Speaker 1: brewing and all that stuff. That's what we want. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: I like that. I like that scenario. Yeah. I mean

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Speaker 1: Jameis Winston's thrown more interceptions than he has touchdowns since

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. I believe it is. So yeah, he'll

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Speaker 1: he'll put it up there. And you know, obviously the

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Speaker 1: Browns pass catchers, they traded their best wide receiver in

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Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, so it's Jerry Judory Jerry Judy as the

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Speaker 1: number one wide receiver. But don't don't sleep on Dave

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Speaker 1: and the Joku either. I think he's really talented tight end.

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Speaker 1: He gave the Ravens fits in the second half when

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Speaker 1: they came to Empty Bank Stadium and won last year,

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Speaker 1: which was like the last good game that Deshaun Watson played,

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Speaker 1: probably his best game as brown Yeah, yeah, no doubt

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Speaker 1: and so but yeah, I do think like Jameis Winston

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Speaker 1: or Deshaun Watson is a guy who like holds the

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Speaker 1: ball and is always looking to break the pocket and

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Speaker 1: scramble and throw and all that stuff, and like took

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Speaker 1: a lot of sacks set because of it. James Winston

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Speaker 1: I think is going to get the ball out much faster.

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Speaker 1: You know that That's how he's going to operate a

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Speaker 1: little bit more will he put into harms way, So

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Speaker 1: I'm sure, But like the Ravens defense has a different

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Speaker 1: task against him.

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Speaker 4: I think Joku is a good point.

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Speaker 3: The Ravens have been like when you go back to

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Speaker 3: the Raiders game, for example, brock Bowers had a pretty

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Speaker 3: big day against the Ravens, and they've been susceptible at

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Speaker 3: times to that stuff over the middle of the field

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Speaker 3: between the linebackers and the safety specifically with the tight ends.

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Speaker 3: And Djoku's uber talented guy, and so he's hurt them

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Speaker 3: before and he could do that again.

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Speaker 1: If you're not ready for that stuff, Yeah, I absolutely agree.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I think this is not this is

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Speaker 1: not gonna be a cakewalk game for the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: Any other final thoughts before we get to emails, because

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Speaker 3: we tease the emails, all right, So we got a

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Speaker 3: bunch of emails.

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Speaker 4: Him box is flooded with emails.

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Speaker 1: People want those free T shirts.

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Speaker 3: It's like, no matter what you do, if you go

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Speaker 3: to a game and there could be so much fun

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Speaker 3: stuff happening on the field, but once the T shirt

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Speaker 3: can it comes out and then everybody goes crazy. That's

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Speaker 3: kind of what it's like when we put the call

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Speaker 3: off for emails and we say this is going to

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Speaker 3: be a free lounge.

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Speaker 1: I'm only signed up for credit cards just to get

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Speaker 1: a free T shirt, a free sub like you know,

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Speaker 1: it resonates something.

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Speaker 3: So as always, you can email us the lounge at

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Speaker 3: Ravens dot NFL dot net. We got a ton of email,

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Speaker 3: so we're not going to necessarily be able to read

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Speaker 3: all of them, but if we do read your email

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Speaker 3: on the air, we are going to send a T shirt.

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Speaker 1: If you live in the United States, we're not going in.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry to our international listeners, but we're not going

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Speaker 1: to international.

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Speaker 4: Make's going to just try to get a plane ticket

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Speaker 4: out of it.

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Speaker 3: Heyre's here's one that's in person that Here's what we

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Speaker 3: got from Switzerland.

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Speaker 1: You want to go all right?

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Speaker 3: So here's an email from Derek who says it's my

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Speaker 3: first time emailing, but I've been an avid listener for

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Speaker 3: many years. But I'm a T shirt guy. So when

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Speaker 3: I heard you guys are giving away free T shirt.

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Speaker 1: You're just going to give so many. Right, He's got

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Speaker 1: a question, Okay, So his question is emails would be

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Speaker 1: like give me a T shirt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but a long time first, long time listener, first

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Speaker 3: time emailer, and so his question is about all the

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Speaker 3: illegal formations the Raves had against the Chiefs since that game.

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Speaker 3: I haven't noticed that kendal to being calls strictly for

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Speaker 3: us or on other teams. Is our our O line

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Speaker 3: is playing at such a high level. I can't be

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Speaker 3: the only one to notice this. So did the league

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Speaker 3: realize they were being too harsh on that call? Did

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Speaker 3: the rest of the league actually make adjustments? What are

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Speaker 3: your thoughts? And he said, He also said, I hope

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Speaker 3: you don't get fine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's trying to give me fine, trying to get

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Speaker 1: me fine. I think that this is another case like

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Speaker 1: the NFL has these points of emphasis, is what they

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Speaker 1: call them, every off season, whether it be you know,

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Speaker 1: hits at the quarterbacks knees or taunting or these different

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Speaker 1: things that they want to clean up. And like this

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Speaker 1: was their point of emphasis going into the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four season, and thus I think that's why they emphasize

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Speaker 1: it on the very first drive of the year with

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Speaker 1: everybody watching. Yeah, and then like they were like, all right,

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Speaker 1: prove their point. I the data shows that it wasn't realistic.

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Speaker 4: They were way harsh on Rodney Stanley in comparison to

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Speaker 4: Jowane Taylor.

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Speaker 1: That's correct, And I'm going to guess that the data

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Speaker 1: shows that like since then things have not changed, That's

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Speaker 1: my guess, right, But I don't know. But I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think that that's going to be

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Speaker 3: I think that that did that absolutely put it on

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Speaker 3: the Ravens radar and I think other teams radar. So

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Speaker 3: maybe there's a slight increase in where guys are lining up,

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Speaker 3: but I do not think it's stress. I think that

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Speaker 3: it is probably it was the point of emphasis, like

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Speaker 3: you said, and the point was emphasized, all right.

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Speaker 4: So another question here from Carl.

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Speaker 3: Do you guys think it's a problem that we're seeing

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Speaker 3: so many defensive players gesturing to each other on the field,

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Speaker 3: especially in the secondary.

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Speaker 4: I've noticed is quite a bit.

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Speaker 3: Especially in the Commander's game, Marcus Williams seen to be

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Speaker 3: gestraight to a number of defensive guys. I'm guessing it's

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Speaker 3: because somebody was out of position. So Carl wants to know,

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Speaker 3: you know, you see the touchdown and everybody's looking at

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Speaker 3: each other and doing.

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Speaker 4: This like that. That can't be good, right, is his point.

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Speaker 1: Zach Ord said on Thursday that there's just been too

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Speaker 1: many mental breakdowns, that they're still having too many mental

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Speaker 1: breakdowns seven games into the season, and like if they

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Speaker 1: want to be the defense that they think they can

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Speaker 1: be and should be, that needs to stop. And so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they've just had too many busy coverages. You know, there

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Speaker 1: was the as we mentioned the film breakdown, there's the

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Speaker 1: busty coverage on their last touchdown to Rashad White, you

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Speaker 1: know over the middle and art areas and Rokwon somebody

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Speaker 1: busted that, and like, they just they've just had too many. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you need to clean it.

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Speaker 3: Up, and this will be I think that I am

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Speaker 3: choosing to look at the six drives of nothing in

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Speaker 3: that game, Like that's the way I am viewing that game. Basically,

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Speaker 3: they had garbage sign at the end of the game

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Speaker 3: and that's where they got their points. Early on, it

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Speaker 3: was it was probably maatic, but then they settled in,

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Speaker 3: but then they settled in. The give up ten early,

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Speaker 3: then they settled in and they basically were shut down

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Speaker 3: until things got haywire in the fourth. And you don't

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Speaker 3: want to see that. Get a pick or get something,

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Speaker 3: you get a stop. But I'm looking at the six.

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Speaker 1: I honestly was more concerned with the ten in the

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Speaker 1: first quarter than I was the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I agree, but then they settled in. Then they

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Speaker 4: settled in. Yeah, all right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, the fact the point of the matter

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Speaker 1: is like this defense is going to have a Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills game again, like they were really good against the Bills. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they have that in them, they absolutely do. And like,

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Speaker 1: no bones about it. You have Jameis Winston this week

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Speaker 1: and you have bo Nicks rookie next week against the Broncos. Like,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, these are these are two opportunities for

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Speaker 1: get right games. We've talked about this the whole the

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Speaker 1: whole season. Now star studied quarterback, the start study quarterback,

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Speaker 1: this run of amazing quarterbacks, some of the best in

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Speaker 1: the league. Like, all right, Jameis Winston is not in

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Speaker 1: that level. He's not in that category right now, Boonex

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Speaker 1: is a rookie. Like this is your chance, you know,

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Speaker 1: if the defense wants to get a little momentum behind

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Speaker 1: it going into the second half of the season, prove it.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. These are the games to do it.

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Speaker 4: They are.

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Speaker 3: But it's like and the flip side is true as well,

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Speaker 3: which is what we talked about earlier, which is a

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Speaker 3: guy can get hot, Jamis can get hot, and then

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Speaker 3: you can have a problem.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, the defense has to prevent him from getting hot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So like it's on them to play to that level,

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Speaker 1: and I think they're capable of it. All right.

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Speaker 3: So we got another question here from Karen Williams who says,

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Speaker 3: when is offensive holding really holding? It seems like there

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Speaker 3: were a number of offensive holding calls that wears also

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Speaker 3: trying to get you seriously man. And then the second

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Speaker 3: question a lot of officiating stuff here. There were two bringeworthy

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Speaker 3: hits that were helmets. A helmet on Lamar Jackson. Was

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Speaker 3: this accidental? What do you guys think? Why didn't the

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Speaker 3: rest call both of them? I'll start with the second one.

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Speaker 3: Just on the hits, there is a difference when a

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Speaker 3: guy when the quarterback is running as a runner in

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Speaker 3: comparison to when he's in the pocket, and so in

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Speaker 3: the pocket as you're a passer, if you if a

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Speaker 3: defender comes anywhere close to his head with his hand

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Speaker 3: with his helmet, certainly they're going to throw the flag.

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Speaker 3: But if you're running out of the pocket and you're

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Speaker 3: in the secondary like lil Mar was on one of

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Speaker 3: those hits, and you get hit in the head, they're

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Speaker 3: not going to call out as much.

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Speaker 1: Now you still can't target a guy would still get

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Speaker 1: the helmet, the guy with your helmet to their head exactly.

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Speaker 4: There's there's like a limitation to that.

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Speaker 1: Quarterbacks definitely, to your point, have more protection in the

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Speaker 1: pocket than at it right out of it.

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Speaker 3: And so when you're when you're the runner, you don't

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Speaker 3: get afforded that same protection. However, I do think it's

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Speaker 3: particularly on one of those game calls in the Bucks game,

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Speaker 3: I think they certainly could have called the flag on that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was a shot right to the ear hole.

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Speaker 1: I was surprised that they then they call it different.

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Speaker 1: There's a different You saw the flag, You're like, okay, okay, they're.

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Speaker 4: Going to call it. And then it was it was

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Speaker 4: basically a low block.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's right, and on the defense, but it was like, wait,

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Speaker 3: what not this playing exactly? So I thought they could

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Speaker 3: have certainly called it in that situation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. And then to the holding penalties, I

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Speaker 1: mean I think that.

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Speaker 4: Your fine is where your fine's coming.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think in Tampa Bay, like I just you

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Speaker 1: know what, I always I wouldn't say they were the

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Speaker 1: wrong calls. I would never I would just say they're questionable, debatable. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so that's I feel like that's fair. No, I like

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Speaker 1: like they got on but they were calling it both

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Speaker 1: Like both ways, there were just a lot of penalties

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Speaker 1: for holding. I don't know, like whether they just saw

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Speaker 1: holding on every play, like there probably is holding on

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Speaker 1: every play. It's like part that's part of the NFL

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Speaker 1: kind of and it's just like to what degree is

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Speaker 1: it going to get called? And like it felt like

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Speaker 1: the refs going both ways were just like very you know,

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Speaker 1: hard on holding.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a couple, I mean Zay Flowers the

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Speaker 3: Fly for one. I thought it was pretty ticky tack.

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Speaker 4: Was that the lord.

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Speaker 1: There's there's the le that wiped out a touchdown?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the one, and pretty ticky tack to

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Speaker 3: take a touchdown off the board. Now, I will say

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Speaker 3: the Bucks also had a touchdown taking off the board.

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Speaker 3: What Tristan wursh Is called for holding?

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Speaker 4: I thought?

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Speaker 1: I thought, I thought that one probably shouldn't have been flagged. Also,

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Speaker 1: to be honest, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Looking purple colored glasses. I thought it was a great call. Great,

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Speaker 4: you're holding, easy flag to be thrown on that.

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Speaker 3: All right, last couple of emails here Jared said, longtime

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Speaker 3: Ravens fan in Missouri. Okay, the offense has the chief

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Speaker 3: so scared they had to go get DeAndre Hopkins, get

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Speaker 3: this defense back to Ravens standards, and this year's playoff

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Speaker 3: meeting will be different. So do you think that there's

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Speaker 3: any connection at all just to the way that I

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Speaker 3: guess the Ravens are playing to the Chiefs going to

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Speaker 3: get DeAndre Hopkins or which.

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Speaker 1: No, no, I think thought. I think the Chiefs have

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Speaker 1: had a lot of injuries on the offense side of

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Speaker 1: the ball. There receiver in particular, receiver writs in Hollywood

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Speaker 1: Brown and they needed a wide receiver, so they went

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Speaker 1: and got one. And yeah, they're trying to be the

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Speaker 1: best team they could be. And I and yes, I

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Speaker 1: think they I'm sure see how well the Ravens are playing,

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Speaker 1: and they're like, it's gonna be tough to beat those

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Speaker 1: guys again, you know, And so they want to win

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Speaker 1: another So they're going to get themselves, you know, in

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Speaker 1: the best position to do so.

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Speaker 4: Carlos Flores another Missouri email here red this coming from

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Speaker 4: Chiefs Country, which I love.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna know the zip codes there front ways back.

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 3: Guys, Carlos here from the heartland of Chiefs Country in Missouri.

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Speaker 3: You can only imagine how rocket Ravens gear sits with locals.

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Speaker 3: But I don't care, doughters know, keep doubting. We have

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Speaker 3: faith in our squad. As long as we do what

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Speaker 3: we have to do and control what we can. I

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Speaker 3: see this being a great year. Let's go Ravens. We'll

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Speaker 3: see you guys in Nola. No question though, there's no

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Speaker 3: question the just if you don't send a question que

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Speaker 3: you know, we never we never said you had to

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Speaker 3: ask a question. You could just this is a good email.

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Speaker 1: This is it is good email I represent. I like

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Speaker 1: that he's representing the Ravens exactly in Chiefs Country.

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Speaker 4: I agree.

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Speaker 3: And then last one is from Justin Davison who said,

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Speaker 3: Justin here huge Ravens fans. He said he actually got

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Speaker 3: into the Ravens in twenty eighteen. His wife took him

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Speaker 3: to his first NFL game, which was against the Bucks.

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Speaker 3: Jamis Winston was a starting quarterback. So a lot of similarities.

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Speaker 1: Coming by the way, James Winston won the Heisman.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: How many straight quarterbacks now have we faced Heisman quarterbacks? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: A lot of them.

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Speaker 1: Winston Baker, Joe Burrow, Burrow, Jane Daniels, Jane Daniels and

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Speaker 1: the Ravens have one right. So is it four? Has

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Speaker 1: lamar gone against four head to head against four straight Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Heisman winners. This pretty crazy.

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Speaker 4: It is pretty crazy.

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Speaker 3: So Justin says, I've lived all over the United States,

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Speaker 3: never really found a team until that moment in twenty

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Speaker 3: eighteen when he came to the Ravens game against the Bucks.

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Speaker 3: After seeing that atmosphere walking down Ravens Walk, I ended

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Speaker 3: up getting hooked. I appreciate the content and keep up

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Speaker 3: the good work, Go Ravens. So I just think, you know,

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Speaker 3: Justin he patted us on the back for the experience

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Speaker 3: at mc bank Stadium. It definitely gets a shir a

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Speaker 3: T shirt. So we'll get those T shirts to you guys.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: Again.

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Speaker 3: You can email us at the lounge at ravenst NFL

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Speaker 3: dot net. Thank you to everybody, Shut me off, shut

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Speaker 3: your world.

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