WEBVTT - MAYDAY! Extension week recap 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:13.680 Many extensions in the first week of the season, something 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:16.200 that we don't quite see at this I feel like 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:20.799 rate kind of a lot going on all at the 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:23.400 same time. It's almost as if and it's not only 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:25.440 the same team doing it. It's a bunch of different teams. 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:29.320 So it's gonna be interesting to see how it plays out. 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:30.440 But we're going to go through them. 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:33.000 I want to do take some time here at the 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:35.760 top of the show talk a little bit about the 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:40.240 young kids, the kids getting paid, the young buck extensions. 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:44.760 We had four guys, one of which happened I believe yesterday, 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:45.920 maybe early this morning. 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:50.000 I'll be honest, I've been very busy. I just knew 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:50.640 that it happened. 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:54.120 And there's four big ones, all guys that are that 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:57.240 weren't quite free agency yet or didn't already have a 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:58.120 deal in place. 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:00.840 And I want to talk to you about whether or not. 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:04.320 They are team friendly or they are player friendly, or 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:08.279 somewhere in between. There's very interesting I think elements happening 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:13.840 here with these. So I just think it's it's it's time. 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:18.360 It's time to talk about contracts. I mean, we got 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:21.600 the CBA coming up, and I think that the market 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:23.400 forces are going to change a little bit then too, 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:27.880 So it's just something to pay attention to. Butuola, we 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:32.120 shall see. All right, let's get into it. First contract, 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:38.440 we had San Diego Padres, Phenom Jackson Merrill. Jackson Merrill 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:41.119 signs a nine year, one and thirty five million dollar 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:45.600 extension that begins next year, not this year, next year, 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:49.040 which actually changes my analysis just a little bit. But 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:53.760 this guy was absolutely electric last year. He did He 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:55.760 was huge for their team. He is a guy that 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:58.800 we are mentioning within the big three of Bogart's, of 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:03.560 Tatis and of Manny Machado in the future for this organization. 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:05.600 So he is going to be there for most of 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:08.160 the next decade into what would have been his free 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:11.200 agency years, and he's twenty one years old. But is 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:15.760 it a player friendly or team friendly? Well, it's about 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:18.440 even I'll be honest. This is a good deal I 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:20.680 think for both sides. One hundred and thirty five million 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:23.440 dollars is not something to shake a stick at. 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:24.240 I understand. 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:28.640 He is the middle of the field position player aka 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:31.760 the centerfielder and the shortstop sometimes second base, with the 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:37.040 shortstop centerfielder usually the highest value defensive metrically and also 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:39.639 with a from a band standpoint, you want a lot 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:41.240 of production out of those two positions. 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:44.320 So he went from shorts, he played shortstop, went to. 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:47.200 Center field, picked it up immediately because of course he did, 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:49.960 and did an amazing job. So this deal, let me 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:52.119 break it down for you, because it starts next year, 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:55.560 he is going to be have five years of free 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.040 agency bought out. He is twenty one years old, so 0:02:58.080 --> 0:02:59.359 he'll become a free agent again. 0:02:59.639 --> 0:02:59.880 At the. 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:05.320 Reason this is even is kind of come from both directions. One, 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:12.079 it's a fifteen million dollar advanced value or advanced annual value, 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:18.040 So AAV that is solid, like a really good center fielder, 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:20.560 will get upwards of twenty five. But the nice thing 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:22.960 about this deal is when it is done, he'll be 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:27.320 thirty years old, so if his performance dictates this, he 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:29.960 will get another opportunity to go into free agency, which 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:31.639 is the point that is when you make the most money. 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:33.919 Usually signing extensions with the team that you were brought 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:38.160 up with doesn't produce as much dollars as many dollars 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:43.040 rather than signing with a team that isn't your team 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:46.680 that you're already on. So I think him having the 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:48.760 opportunity to go in free agency again if he wants to, 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:50.960 while having one hundred and thirty five million dollars in 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.280 the bank is positive for him. But the team generally 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:55.400 gets a guy for fifteen million dollars a year that 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:57.600 could very easily become a twenty five to thirty million 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:59.800 dollars a year player. That is why this is kind 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:01.360 of cross board, and this is why I kind of 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:02.960 like it. I like the idea that he's going to 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:07.120 get a second free agency opportunity and it doesn't affect 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:10.320 the markets for centerfielders as much either. So I enjoy 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:12.080 that because he is twenty one years old, and if 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:13.520 you're going to do it, do it then and make 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:16.080 sure you get over one hundred million dollars please. Second off, 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:19.240 we have Christian Campbell signing a smaller deal after just 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:21.480 a couple of weeks in the major leagues with the 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:24.360 Boston Red Sox eight year sixty million, which comes out 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:29.359 to an aav of just about seven point five million dollars, 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:33.040 which right now, that's just over about a war a year, 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:38.520 one win above replacement. So this one kind of goes 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:42.760 advantage team. Sixty million dollars is not a lot of money, 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:45.320 as we see with the Ozzy Albi's deal. We got 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:48.840 even the Couna deal. It's more in that realm. But 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:52.039 and based on what the Red Sox have said and 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:53.760 people who've watched him play in real life, he's getting 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:56.240 Mookie Bets comps. If that guy turns in Mookie bets. 0:04:56.320 --> 0:05:00.159 This is wild value for the team. But I like 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:03.520 that he took advantage of it. And again, he's twenty two. 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:05.719 He's going to be a free agent at thirty. Again, 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.880 he's gonna get another opportunity for free agency. So that's 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:11.440 why he gets a little bit on the old bar 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:15.599 here in his direction. But for the most part, it's 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:18.839 not a huge investment for the Red Sox. They got 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:21.520 their second basement. By all accounts, he's just a pure 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:23.479 hitter and then he's going to be a quality player 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.919 move forward. But it's just not that risky. It's just 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:30.159 not that risky. So I like that for him, And 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:32.120 it only buys out two years of his free agency 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:33.839 because he's barely got any time in the big leagues. 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:39.000 Third guy, Garrett Crochet. This one was interesting. 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:41.760 Garret Crochet six years, one hundred seventy million, dollars from 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:45.000 the Boston Red Sox. Also, this comes out to an 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.760 aav of just over twenty eight million dollars twenty eight 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:51.599 point three to be exact. He is the ace of 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:53.599 the Red Sox, so the Red Sox check one on 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:56.520 the Red Sox side for getting their ace. It buys 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.200 out four years of free agency, so that is obviously 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:03.280 a benefit as well, but he will still be a 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:05.520 free agent at thirty one years old because he's currently 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:05.920 twenty five. 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:07.159 I think he just turned twenty six. 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:10.880 Actually, and he's going to get another opportunity for free 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:15.200 agency as well, so that's more on his side. This 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:18.159 is mostly a player or this is mostly a player 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:21.520 deal because he got more money than any and more extension, 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:24.200 the biggest extension than anyone has ever gotten. With the 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.000 amount of work he's done. He only has two hundred 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:27.919 and twenty four innings and thirty six starts in his career. 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:29.840 That is the risk for the Red Sox and that's 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:33.080 why I give him the benefit of the doubt here. 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:37.160 I think it's a high it's a high value contract. 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:38.839 Sure, could he make more. 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:42.200 Maybe, but he doesn't have the track record and he's 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:45.000 had in injury problems to show that that might not happen. 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:47.520 So but I think this is just necessary. I think 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:50.440 the Red Sox had to do this, especially because Christian 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:53.200 Campbell signed a team friendly you can afford to then 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:55.080 go out and get your true ac guy who's going 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:56.880 to want to start in game one in any playoff 0:06:56.920 --> 0:07:02.679 series to be paid. But he got paid with very little. 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:06.040 Usually track record is a big part of this, and 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:08.440 for the first time in a long time or ever, honestly, 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:11.080 track record didn't factor into this one as much I 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:13.960 like it. But it's definitely Garrett won that one for sure. 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:20.280 And lastly, flag Flad grojernaland finally I think gets his 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:23.040 stupid contract done so we can stop talking about it. 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:28.360 Fourteen years, five hundred million. This one will not be 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:34.400 seeing another free agency most of the time, I hear Isaiah, 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:36.880 this flatty signing is restored to hope in life they 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:40.560 get their centerpiece of their franchise. But this is definitely 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:43.960 a player W. This is definitely player W. Five hundre 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:48.840 million dollars is the second biggest value contract for anybody, 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:51.840 even because there is noted for money. It is beyond 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:58.560 sho Heo Tani seven hundred million in real value. Excuse 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:00.480 me when you fire and off words like I am 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:05.040 you gotta take a drink, and it buys out all 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:07.800 of his free agency. He's not gonna hit free agency again. 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:11.880 And it comes out to an avy of thirty five 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:16.000 point seven million. So I really can't say the benefit. 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:17.840 Here's the benefit of the Blue Jays get They're not 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.080 to worry about it anymore. They got their franchise players 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:25.480 that they can build all their media around, and preferably 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:27.240 a lot of production in middle of the order. The 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:29.280 problem is he's a first baseman. They don't tend to 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:30.960 age well. And this is until he's forty years old. 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:32.839 At some point, this is probably going to turn into 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:36.040 a contract. It's inevitable that everyone's gonna be like kind 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:37.640 a lot of money for a guy who can't really move. 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:40.040 And that's just what happens when you age. So I 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:43.120 will definitely say Flatty won this one. I will definitely 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:50.959 say Vladdie won this one. But it was a necessary 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.560 move for the Blue just similar to the Red Sox. 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:55.280 They had to go do it. We've been talking about 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:57.920 this all off season, myself included. They had to go 0:08:57.960 --> 0:08:59.520 do this. I wish they would have done it before 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:01.480 they at all came out where they offered everyone else 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:03.920 all the money. But I'm glad it's done so now 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:06.720 we don't have to talk about it anymore. And uh 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:10.520 and I am also really excited to bring in our 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:14.880 first guest here on May Day, first guest ever, first 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.160 time we've ever tried this little apparatus we're going to 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:23.360 do so. Cross your fingers everyone at home. Scottie Brown 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:27.360 is here. Yeah you hear me, Yeah, yes I can everyone. 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:31.000 You can hear him too. Scott Bron, host of Foul 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:34.240 Territory and number one in all of our hearts. Thanks 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.079 for coming on man, thanks for being the number one, 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:37.559 number one guest on the show. 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:39.200 Do I get an extension? 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:43.920 You wait, you got to give me an extension? What 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:45.360 do you mean? I'm on your network right now? What 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:46.000 are we talking about? 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.880 True? True? True, I forgot. I can't ask for my 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:52.400 own extension, although I mean when I think about Bladdy 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:55.120 Junior show, we'll get into it at some point. I 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:58.640 bet the front office, who is that Atkins and Shapiro 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:02.280 going ownership like, Look, we got to done extension for us. 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.520 It only cost you double when we could have done 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:05.640 this several years ago. 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:08.880 Yeah, yeah, well you shouldn't have let Sodo go first, 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.320 and that, you know all brokely. 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:13.360 Well, let's talk about a little bit. 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:15.560 I know, I know, I just rapid fired like four 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:17.720 of them real quick, and all the young guys are 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:21.400 signing contracts. What was your first I mean, obviously we 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:24.560 could start with latt What was your first reaction to 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:25.760 hearing about the blad news. 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:29.400 Yeah, Laddie won. Laddie wanted five hundred. He said it publicly. 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:32.240 Often this stuff doesn't get that public where you actually 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:35.480 know the exact numbers. I mean, Ken Rosenthal was so 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:37.960 on this story that he already had that out for weeks. 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:41.200 Thirty five point seven at fourteen would get you to 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:43.400 five hundred. That's the number. And then eventually you just 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:45.400 get that out of Laddie where he's like, yeah, that'll 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.360 get it done, and the Blue Jays are like, we 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.240 already went past your value, and he's like, cool, I 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:52.960 don't care, I'm going to publicize this. You've lost out 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.360 on many other big names. You've gotten some. It's not 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.400 like they had a bad offseason. It's just that the 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:00.360 way they're aiming for players these days has not gone 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:04.160 well for them, right, like an Otani Roki Sazaki was 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.360 a tough loss for them. It would have helped if 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.439 Vladdie Junior was locked up for a while, would it 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:10.520 have mattered. No, he was going to sign with the 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.600 Dodgers either way. But they also went after Juan Soto 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:16.000 and as far as we heard, they didn't go past 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:18.440 the seven hundred marks, So you weren't even close. And 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.200 you're showing that you're going to spend that much money 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:23.160 on a player. Laddie's sitting there like, oh, hey, I'm 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.880 Canada's baseball son and I'm a star and I'm young, 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:27.840 and you're going to let me get the free agency 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.480 no way. So I think that he just had him. 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:32.840 I mean I think he had him by the balls, Trevor. 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:33.800 And I think that's what happened. 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:35.880 And he said, five hundred is the number, baby, and 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:37.760 when you get there, you call me and I will 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:39.640 sign it. And I don't care how long it takes. 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:41.839 You want to wait until June when I'm off to 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:43.959 a great start or I'm not. Whatever it is. Right, 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.320 unless there was an injury, which is not as common 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:48.440 for a position player, and he's been pretty damn durable 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:50.800 they were going to get screwed on this one. But 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:52.959 the thing for me is I'm happy in the end 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:56.120 for the Blue Jays to get him for life, right, 0:11:56.520 --> 0:12:00.040 But if I'm a Blue Jays fan, this is a 0:11:59.880 --> 0:12:03.840 loss for the front office because everybody has a spending 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:06.280 limit and this is going to be an expensive player 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:08.840 for a while. That's great, But like I mentioned at 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:11.760 the top here, they could have had him for much less. 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.200 Go back a few years ago. Ken did homework on 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:16.199 this and said they could have put out a similar, 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:19.360 if not probably a little lower deal than what TATISC 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.920 got in twenty twenty one in the three hundreds, and 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.040 that would have gotten it done. Right, If you put 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.360 at that point two seventy five to three hundred in 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.840 front of Laddie, I'm sure that would have gotten it done. 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:32.480 It sounded like they kept lowballing him through the entire operation. Here. 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:35.960 They delayed his service time, they lowballed him on offers 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:38.240 compared to the market. They took him to arbitration I 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:41.400 think once or twice, so they were just doing everything 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:43.720 wrong as a front office. And then, like you mentioned, 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:45.680 they could have done this in October and had a 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:49.160 conversation and it would have probably ended with I don't know, 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:52.080 four hundred, So then they cost themselves another one hundred 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:55.360 million dollars when Sodo set the market for someone of 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:59.280 his age without a full skill set as a baseball player. Right, 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:01.440 he is not a five tool player. He is a 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:03.960 hitting legend, but he is not a five tool player. 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:05.720 So when you add it all up, huge win for 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.880 Bladdie Junior, Huge win for Blue Jays fans because who cares. 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:11.960 Big loss for the front office. And if they don't 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:15.040 make the playoffs this year and I'm running the Blue Jays, 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.839 I am sweeping that up and starting over because their 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:18.880 firm system sucks too. 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:19.560 Yeah. 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:22.600 They it feels like they stumble, stumble, stumble. They're holding 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:25.520 the bag of stumbling and then they just like fumbled 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:29.240 it right into his hands. But you know, I can't 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:31.120 fault it. I was a player. I got to be 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:34.240 on the player side here. And this wasn't just the 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:39.479 only crazy extension in my opinion. Garret Crochet also unprecedented, 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:42.840 and then contrasts that with with Christian Campbell a little 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.640 bit because the same team, they got two very different 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:49.480 kind of players in terms of like length of time 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.000 and also dollar amounts. So how'd you feel about the 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:54.440 Crochet and the Christian Campbell signings. 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:57.640 I thought Crochet did really well. Remember last year he 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:00.520 was getting criticized for not wanting to get moved to 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.440 a team that's gonna throw him in the bullpen or 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.240 just mess around with him. In general, I don't blame him. 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:07.559 I mean, you can give us the pitcher perspective on this, 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.280 but he had been hurt. He's on a White Sox 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:12.199 team that does not have a great reputation for a 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.400 lot of things right now as far as player development, 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:16.400 and then you're going to ask him to move teams 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:18.920 and get on a different plan during his breakout season 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:21.360 when he hasn't really gotten paid much yet. No thanks, 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:23.920 So I thought, good for you for standing up for yourself. 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.160 He ends up getting the trade to a destination like this, 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:27.880 and I don't really feel like there was much of 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.480 a discount here, and he had two years still left 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:32.400 of team control if we're including this year. So I 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:35.160 thought him and his team did really well on that front. 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:38.360 I know you mentioned you set some records. He to 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:40.400 me looks like an ace and to everyone else, but 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:42.960 he does come with injury questions. So for him to 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:45.920 secure the bag as a pitcher before you hit free agency. 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:48.080 That was a no brainer. If you asked me what 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:49.400 I thought he was going to get, I thought it 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.600 would have been more in the mid one hundreds. Instead 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:53.640 it gets the upper one hundreds. I would have guessed 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:55.360 like one thirty to one forty. 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:56.080 So good for. 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.080 Him for landing some of that money where I think, 0:14:58.120 --> 0:14:59.880 what the two or three years of it gets some 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.200 thirty somethingter mill per season. So for the Red Sox, 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:05.920 I mean, you traded a lot for this guy. Keep 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.240 the guy. It's fine. It's not going to crush them. 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:10.800 Of course, you have injury concerns, very at least catching 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:13.680 him early on in his career doesn't have crazy mileage 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:16.440 on the arm, So fine, fine for both sides there 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:18.360 and then Christian Campbell. Of course they're going to get 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:20.680 a bargain. But you're asking a player who was a 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:23.320 fourth or fifth round pick if he wants sixty million 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:26.600 dollars when he didn't even know that they traveled on 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:29.200 a private plane and that he wouldn't have a roommate. Okay, 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:33.120 so he's going to say yes to that. A year ago, Trevor, 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.880 nobody knows who he is, so I think he got 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.960 low balled, but I can't fault him. I mean, he 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:41.240 didn't know where it was going to be as a player, 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:43.640 Like he is the kind of guy where you looked 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:45.680 and you're like tons of potential red sox are going 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:47.600 to work on his swing path. It either works or 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:49.280 we never hear from him again. And now all of 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:50.880 a sudden, he's in the bigs, playing on a good 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.720 team and he's getting thrown sixty million dollars. Who doesn't 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:54.080 take that? 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:56.920 Oh? I you know when I was playing, I would 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:58.400 have been like hesitant. I had to look and do it. 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:00.480 But again, the fact that all these guys have a 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:02.720 second they have free agency on the table still like 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:05.320 in technically in the prime window that still exists twenty 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.360 eight to thirty two, so when you can maximize your 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:10.320 free agency, so they're like, yeah, if I'm better, if 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:12.000 I need to make more money, I have an opportunity 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:14.200 to make more money later. If I don't, then I 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:18.119 got sixty million. Like it's it's it's that's it's that straightforward. 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:19.920 And also you know who else was the fifth rounder 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:21.680 who wasn't expected to be as good as they are? 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:25.400 Mookie Bets so, uh, there's a lot of that. There's 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:26.760 a lot of that. Comp They're like, we just don't 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:28.320 want to mess this up. Maybe they're getting a little 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:30.120 bit of like we don't mess up the Mookie Bets 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:34.520 thing again either. Okay, last one really quickly, Jax Merril, 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:35.760 how do you feel about that one? 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:38.320 So I'm gonna tie Campbell and Meryl together because I 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:40.600 spoke to a couple of agents behind the scenes. Oh, 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:44.200 I mean, terrible job for Meryl and for Campbell. They 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:47.040 left so much money on the table. The whole first 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:50.000 big contract thing applies here. So I don't know really 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:53.680 what to say right again with Jackson, Merril loves the team, 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.400 wants to win on this team. He said he's gonna 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:59.080 give them a little room for spending power. Like, okay, 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.480 I mean that's a great thing to say. He's a star. 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:04.879 He's playing center field. That position actually usually doesn't age 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:07.160 well getting deep into your thirties, based on how much 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.080 of a toll it takes. So I don't fault him 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:12.480 for doing this. I don't fault him or his reps 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:14.880 for getting this done either, because I think if he's 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:18.560 so damn good, they'll keep adding an extension or two 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:21.360 on top of what he's doing, right, he just he screams, 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:25.600 Padre's player for life. In my mind, Ken Rosenthal bring 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:28.680 him up again, said, maybe one to two hundred million 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:31.160 dollars left on the table, but you would have had 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:33.919 to go deep into the arbitration process and then you know, 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:37.560 eventually get yourself to free agencies. So generally, with these 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:39.600 it's hard not to look at them as wins for 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:42.040 both sides. The only thing with Merrill is I think 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:45.040 he doesn't get to free agency until thirty two. If 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.800 he even gets there. At that point, how many teams 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:50.560 are investing major long term dollars in a thirty two 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:52.560 year old center fielder. I don't care who you are. 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:55.760 Not many, right, I mean that you just have to 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:57.800 play the law of averages in the past. But that 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:01.919 position just takes a hit suddenly giving him another You know, 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:04.080 he's not signing a ten year contract at that point, 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.200 even if he is a star. Based on how front 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:09.840 offices evaluate, so best case scenario, he's four or five 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:12.399 years into this thing, he's a stud. They add you know, 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:14.280 three to five more years on top of that, and 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:17.240 that's his whole career and he ends up making two 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:20.679 hundred something million dollars instead of maybe four hundred million dollars. 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:24.480 I mean whatever, he could also run into a wall 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:26.760 and it could end his career. And now he's got 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:29.199 the security. So I mean, you tell me, do you 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:32.359 ever look at these and go, oh man, player got robbed. 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:33.760 It's his first millions. 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:34.879 He got robbed. 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:36.399 Like what are you supposed to do? 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:38.320 Yeah? 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:42.919 I having never been offered anything remotely close to this, 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:45.719 even before it was my time to negotiate it. 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:47.040 You know, I can't say. 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:48.760 I can't say that I wouldn't be like yep, I 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:53.680 will even as a starting pitcher, right. I just feel 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:55.760