1 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Many extensions in the first week of the season, something 2 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: that we don't quite see at this I feel like 3 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: rate kind of a lot going on all at the 4 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: same time. It's almost as if and it's not only 5 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: the same team doing it. It's a bunch of different teams. 6 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be interesting to see how it plays out. 7 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: But we're going to go through them. 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: I want to do take some time here at the 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: top of the show talk a little bit about the 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: young kids, the kids getting paid, the young buck extensions. 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: We had four guys, one of which happened I believe yesterday, 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: maybe early this morning. 13 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I've been very busy. I just knew 14 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: that it happened. 15 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: And there's four big ones, all guys that are that 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: weren't quite free agency yet or didn't already have a 17 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: deal in place. 18 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: And I want to talk to you about whether or not. 19 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: They are team friendly or they are player friendly, or 20 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,279 Speaker 1: somewhere in between. There's very interesting I think elements happening 21 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: here with these. So I just think it's it's it's time. 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: It's time to talk about contracts. I mean, we got 23 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: the CBA coming up, and I think that the market 24 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: forces are going to change a little bit then too, 25 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: So it's just something to pay attention to. Butuola, we 26 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: shall see. All right, let's get into it. First contract, 27 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: we had San Diego Padres, Phenom Jackson Merrill. Jackson Merrill 28 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 1: signs a nine year, one and thirty five million dollar 29 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: extension that begins next year, not this year, next year, 30 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: which actually changes my analysis just a little bit. But 31 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: this guy was absolutely electric last year. He did He 32 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: was huge for their team. He is a guy that 33 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: we are mentioning within the big three of Bogart's, of 34 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: Tatis and of Manny Machado in the future for this organization. 35 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: So he is going to be there for most of 36 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: the next decade into what would have been his free 37 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: agency years, and he's twenty one years old. But is 38 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: it a player friendly or team friendly? Well, it's about 39 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: even I'll be honest. This is a good deal I 40 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: think for both sides. One hundred and thirty five million 41 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: dollars is not something to shake a stick at. 42 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: I understand. 43 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: He is the middle of the field position player aka 44 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: the centerfielder and the shortstop sometimes second base, with the 45 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: shortstop centerfielder usually the highest value defensive metrically and also 46 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: with a from a band standpoint, you want a lot 47 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: of production out of those two positions. 48 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: So he went from shorts, he played shortstop, went to. 49 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: Center field, picked it up immediately because of course he did, 50 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: and did an amazing job. So this deal, let me 51 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,119 Speaker 1: break it down for you, because it starts next year, 52 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: he is going to be have five years of free 53 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: agency bought out. He is twenty one years old, so 54 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: he'll become a free agent again. 55 00:02:59,639 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: At the. 56 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: Reason this is even is kind of come from both directions. One, 57 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: it's a fifteen million dollar advanced value or advanced annual value, 58 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: So AAV that is solid, like a really good center fielder, 59 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: will get upwards of twenty five. But the nice thing 60 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: about this deal is when it is done, he'll be 61 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: thirty years old, so if his performance dictates this, he 62 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: will get another opportunity to go into free agency, which 63 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: is the point that is when you make the most money. 64 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: Usually signing extensions with the team that you were brought 65 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: up with doesn't produce as much dollars as many dollars 66 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: rather than signing with a team that isn't your team 67 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: that you're already on. So I think him having the 68 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: opportunity to go in free agency again if he wants to, 69 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: while having one hundred and thirty five million dollars in 70 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: the bank is positive for him. But the team generally 71 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: gets a guy for fifteen million dollars a year that 72 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: could very easily become a twenty five to thirty million 73 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: dollars a year player. That is why this is kind 74 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: of cross board, and this is why I kind of 75 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: like it. I like the idea that he's going to 76 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: get a second free agency opportunity and it doesn't affect 77 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: the markets for centerfielders as much either. So I enjoy 78 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: that because he is twenty one years old, and if 79 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: you're going to do it, do it then and make 80 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: sure you get over one hundred million dollars please. Second off, 81 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: we have Christian Campbell signing a smaller deal after just 82 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks in the major leagues with the 83 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: Boston Red Sox eight year sixty million, which comes out 84 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: to an aav of just about seven point five million dollars, 85 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: which right now, that's just over about a war a year, 86 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: one win above replacement. So this one kind of goes 87 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: advantage team. Sixty million dollars is not a lot of money, 88 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: as we see with the Ozzy Albi's deal. We got 89 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: even the Couna deal. It's more in that realm. But 90 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: and based on what the Red Sox have said and 91 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: people who've watched him play in real life, he's getting 92 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: Mookie Bets comps. If that guy turns in Mookie bets. 93 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: This is wild value for the team. But I like 94 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: that he took advantage of it. And again, he's twenty two. 95 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: He's going to be a free agent at thirty. Again, 96 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: he's gonna get another opportunity for free agency. So that's 97 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: why he gets a little bit on the old bar 98 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: here in his direction. But for the most part, it's 99 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: not a huge investment for the Red Sox. They got 100 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: their second basement. By all accounts, he's just a pure 101 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: hitter and then he's going to be a quality player 102 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: move forward. But it's just not that risky. It's just 103 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: not that risky. So I like that for him, And 104 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: it only buys out two years of his free agency 105 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: because he's barely got any time in the big leagues. 106 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: Third guy, Garrett Crochet. This one was interesting. 107 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: Garret Crochet six years, one hundred seventy million, dollars from 108 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: the Boston Red Sox. Also, this comes out to an 109 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: aav of just over twenty eight million dollars twenty eight 110 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: point three to be exact. He is the ace of 111 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: the Red Sox, so the Red Sox check one on 112 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: the Red Sox side for getting their ace. It buys 113 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: out four years of free agency, so that is obviously 114 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: a benefit as well, but he will still be a 115 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: free agent at thirty one years old because he's currently 116 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: twenty five. 117 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 2: I think he just turned twenty six. 118 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: Actually, and he's going to get another opportunity for free 119 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: agency as well, so that's more on his side. This 120 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: is mostly a player or this is mostly a player 121 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: deal because he got more money than any and more extension, 122 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: the biggest extension than anyone has ever gotten. With the 123 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: amount of work he's done. He only has two hundred 124 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: and twenty four innings and thirty six starts in his career. 125 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: That is the risk for the Red Sox and that's 126 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: why I give him the benefit of the doubt here. 127 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: I think it's a high it's a high value contract. 128 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 2: Sure, could he make more. 129 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: Maybe, but he doesn't have the track record and he's 130 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: had in injury problems to show that that might not happen. 131 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: So but I think this is just necessary. I think 132 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: the Red Sox had to do this, especially because Christian 133 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: Campbell signed a team friendly you can afford to then 134 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: go out and get your true ac guy who's going 135 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: to want to start in game one in any playoff 136 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:02,679 Speaker 1: series to be paid. But he got paid with very little. 137 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: Usually track record is a big part of this, and 138 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: for the first time in a long time or ever, honestly, 139 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: track record didn't factor into this one as much I 140 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: like it. But it's definitely Garrett won that one for sure. 141 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: And lastly, flag Flad grojernaland finally I think gets his 142 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: stupid contract done so we can stop talking about it. 143 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: Fourteen years, five hundred million. This one will not be 144 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: seeing another free agency most of the time, I hear Isaiah, 145 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: this flatty signing is restored to hope in life they 146 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: get their centerpiece of their franchise. But this is definitely 147 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: a player W. This is definitely player W. Five hundre 148 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: million dollars is the second biggest value contract for anybody, 149 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: even because there is noted for money. It is beyond 150 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: sho Heo Tani seven hundred million in real value. Excuse 151 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: me when you fire and off words like I am 152 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: you gotta take a drink, and it buys out all 153 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: of his free agency. He's not gonna hit free agency again. 154 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: And it comes out to an avy of thirty five 155 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: point seven million. So I really can't say the benefit. 156 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: Here's the benefit of the Blue Jays get They're not 157 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: to worry about it anymore. They got their franchise players 158 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: that they can build all their media around, and preferably 159 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: a lot of production in middle of the order. The 160 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: problem is he's a first baseman. They don't tend to 161 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: age well. And this is until he's forty years old. 162 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: At some point, this is probably going to turn into 163 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: a contract. It's inevitable that everyone's gonna be like kind 164 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: a lot of money for a guy who can't really move. 165 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: And that's just what happens when you age. So I 166 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: will definitely say Flatty won this one. I will definitely 167 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: say Vladdie won this one. But it was a necessary 168 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: move for the Blue just similar to the Red Sox. 169 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: They had to go do it. We've been talking about 170 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: this all off season, myself included. They had to go 171 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: do this. I wish they would have done it before 172 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: they at all came out where they offered everyone else 173 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: all the money. But I'm glad it's done so now 174 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: we don't have to talk about it anymore. And uh 175 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: and I am also really excited to bring in our 176 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: first guest here on May Day, first guest ever, first 177 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: time we've ever tried this little apparatus we're going to 178 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: do so. Cross your fingers everyone at home. Scottie Brown 179 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: is here. Yeah you hear me, Yeah, yes I can everyone. 180 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: You can hear him too. Scott Bron, host of Foul 181 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: Territory and number one in all of our hearts. Thanks 182 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: for coming on man, thanks for being the number one, 183 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: number one guest on the show. 184 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 3: Do I get an extension? 185 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: You wait, you got to give me an extension? What 186 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: do you mean? I'm on your network right now? What 187 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: are we talking about? 188 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 3: True? True? True, I forgot. I can't ask for my 189 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 3: own extension, although I mean when I think about Bladdy 190 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 3: Junior show, we'll get into it at some point. I 191 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 3: bet the front office, who is that Atkins and Shapiro 192 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 3: going ownership like, Look, we got to done extension for us. 193 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: It only cost you double when we could have done 194 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 3: this several years ago. 195 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well you shouldn't have let Sodo go first, 196 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: and that, you know all brokely. 197 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about a little bit. 198 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I just rapid fired like four 199 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: of them real quick, and all the young guys are 200 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: signing contracts. What was your first I mean, obviously we 201 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: could start with latt What was your first reaction to 202 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: hearing about the blad news. 203 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, Laddie won. Laddie wanted five hundred. He said it publicly. 204 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 3: Often this stuff doesn't get that public where you actually 205 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 3: know the exact numbers. I mean, Ken Rosenthal was so 206 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 3: on this story that he already had that out for weeks. 207 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 3: Thirty five point seven at fourteen would get you to 208 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 3: five hundred. That's the number. And then eventually you just 209 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 3: get that out of Laddie where he's like, yeah, that'll 210 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 3: get it done, and the Blue Jays are like, we 211 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 3: already went past your value, and he's like, cool, I 212 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 3: don't care, I'm going to publicize this. You've lost out 213 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 3: on many other big names. You've gotten some. It's not 214 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 3: like they had a bad offseason. It's just that the 215 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 3: way they're aiming for players these days has not gone 216 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: well for them, right, like an Otani Roki Sazaki was 217 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 3: a tough loss for them. It would have helped if 218 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 3: Vladdie Junior was locked up for a while, would it 219 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: have mattered. No, he was going to sign with the 220 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 3: Dodgers either way. But they also went after Juan Soto 221 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 3: and as far as we heard, they didn't go past 222 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 3: the seven hundred marks, So you weren't even close. And 223 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 3: you're showing that you're going to spend that much money 224 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 3: on a player. Laddie's sitting there like, oh, hey, I'm 225 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 3: Canada's baseball son and I'm a star and I'm young, 226 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 3: and you're going to let me get the free agency 227 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: no way. So I think that he just had him. 228 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 3: I mean I think he had him by the balls, Trevor. 229 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: And I think that's what happened. 230 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 3: And he said, five hundred is the number, baby, and 231 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: when you get there, you call me and I will 232 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 3: sign it. And I don't care how long it takes. 233 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 3: You want to wait until June when I'm off to 234 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 3: a great start or I'm not. Whatever it is. Right, 235 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 3: unless there was an injury, which is not as common 236 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 3: for a position player, and he's been pretty damn durable 237 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 3: they were going to get screwed on this one. But 238 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 3: the thing for me is I'm happy in the end 239 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: for the Blue Jays to get him for life, right, 240 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 3: But if I'm a Blue Jays fan, this is a 241 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 3: loss for the front office because everybody has a spending 242 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 3: limit and this is going to be an expensive player 243 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 3: for a while. That's great, But like I mentioned at 244 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 3: the top here, they could have had him for much less. 245 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 3: Go back a few years ago. Ken did homework on 246 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 3: this and said they could have put out a similar, 247 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 3: if not probably a little lower deal than what TATISC 248 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: got in twenty twenty one in the three hundreds, and 249 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 3: that would have gotten it done. Right, If you put 250 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 3: at that point two seventy five to three hundred in 251 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 3: front of Laddie, I'm sure that would have gotten it done. 252 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 3: It sounded like they kept lowballing him through the entire operation. Here. 253 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 3: They delayed his service time, they lowballed him on offers 254 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 3: compared to the market. They took him to arbitration I 255 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 3: think once or twice, so they were just doing everything 256 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 3: wrong as a front office. And then, like you mentioned, 257 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 3: they could have done this in October and had a 258 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 3: conversation and it would have probably ended with I don't know, 259 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 3: four hundred, So then they cost themselves another one hundred 260 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 3: million dollars when Sodo set the market for someone of 261 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 3: his age without a full skill set as a baseball player. Right, 262 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 3: he is not a five tool player. He is a 263 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 3: hitting legend, but he is not a five tool player. 264 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 3: So when you add it all up, huge win for 265 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 3: Bladdie Junior, Huge win for Blue Jays fans because who cares. 266 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 3: Big loss for the front office. And if they don't 267 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 3: make the playoffs this year and I'm running the Blue Jays, 268 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 3: I am sweeping that up and starting over because their 269 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 3: firm system sucks too. 270 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 271 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: They it feels like they stumble, stumble, stumble. They're holding 272 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: the bag of stumbling and then they just like fumbled 273 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: it right into his hands. But you know, I can't 274 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: fault it. I was a player. I got to be 275 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: on the player side here. And this wasn't just the 276 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:39,479 Speaker 1: only crazy extension in my opinion. Garret Crochet also unprecedented, 277 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: and then contrasts that with with Christian Campbell a little 278 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: bit because the same team, they got two very different 279 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: kind of players in terms of like length of time 280 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: and also dollar amounts. So how'd you feel about the 281 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: Crochet and the Christian Campbell signings. 282 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 3: I thought Crochet did really well. Remember last year he 283 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 3: was getting criticized for not wanting to get moved to 284 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 3: a team that's gonna throw him in the bullpen or 285 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 3: just mess around with him. In general, I don't blame him. 286 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 3: I mean, you can give us the pitcher perspective on this, 287 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 3: but he had been hurt. He's on a White Sox 288 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 3: team that does not have a great reputation for a 289 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: lot of things right now as far as player development, 290 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 3: and then you're going to ask him to move teams 291 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 3: and get on a different plan during his breakout season 292 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 3: when he hasn't really gotten paid much yet. No thanks, 293 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 3: So I thought, good for you for standing up for yourself. 294 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 3: He ends up getting the trade to a destination like this, 295 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 3: and I don't really feel like there was much of 296 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 3: a discount here, and he had two years still left 297 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 3: of team control if we're including this year. So I 298 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: thought him and his team did really well on that front. 299 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 3: I know you mentioned you set some records. He to 300 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 3: me looks like an ace and to everyone else, but 301 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: he does come with injury questions. So for him to 302 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 3: secure the bag as a pitcher before you hit free agency. 303 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 3: That was a no brainer. If you asked me what 304 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 3: I thought he was going to get, I thought it 305 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 3: would have been more in the mid one hundreds. Instead 306 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 3: it gets the upper one hundreds. I would have guessed 307 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 3: like one thirty to one forty. 308 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: So good for. 309 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 3: Him for landing some of that money where I think, 310 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 3: what the two or three years of it gets some 311 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 3: thirty somethingter mill per season. So for the Red Sox, 312 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 3: I mean, you traded a lot for this guy. Keep 313 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 3: the guy. It's fine. It's not going to crush them. 314 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 3: Of course, you have injury concerns, very at least catching 315 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 3: him early on in his career doesn't have crazy mileage 316 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: on the arm, So fine, fine for both sides there 317 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: and then Christian Campbell. Of course they're going to get 318 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 3: a bargain. But you're asking a player who was a 319 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: fourth or fifth round pick if he wants sixty million 320 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 3: dollars when he didn't even know that they traveled on 321 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 3: a private plane and that he wouldn't have a roommate. Okay, 322 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 3: so he's going to say yes to that. A year ago, Trevor, 323 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 3: nobody knows who he is, so I think he got 324 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 3: low balled, but I can't fault him. I mean, he 325 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 3: didn't know where it was going to be as a player, 326 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 3: Like he is the kind of guy where you looked 327 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 3: and you're like tons of potential red sox are going 328 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 3: to work on his swing path. It either works or 329 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 3: we never hear from him again. And now all of 330 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 3: a sudden, he's in the bigs, playing on a good 331 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 3: team and he's getting thrown sixty million dollars. Who doesn't 332 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 3: take that? 333 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 2: Oh? I you know when I was playing, I would 334 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 2: have been like hesitant. I had to look and do it. 335 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: But again, the fact that all these guys have a 336 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: second they have free agency on the table still like 337 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: in technically in the prime window that still exists twenty 338 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: eight to thirty two, so when you can maximize your 339 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: free agency, so they're like, yeah, if I'm better, if 340 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: I need to make more money, I have an opportunity 341 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: to make more money later. If I don't, then I 342 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,119 Speaker 1: got sixty million. Like it's it's it's that's it's that straightforward. 343 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: And also you know who else was the fifth rounder 344 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: who wasn't expected to be as good as they are? 345 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: Mookie Bets so, uh, there's a lot of that. There's 346 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: a lot of that. Comp They're like, we just don't 347 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: want to mess this up. Maybe they're getting a little 348 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: bit of like we don't mess up the Mookie Bets 349 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: thing again either. Okay, last one really quickly, Jax Merril, 350 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: how do you feel about that one? 351 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna tie Campbell and Meryl together because I 352 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: spoke to a couple of agents behind the scenes. Oh, 353 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 3: I mean, terrible job for Meryl and for Campbell. They 354 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 3: left so much money on the table. The whole first 355 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 3: big contract thing applies here. So I don't know really 356 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 3: what to say right again with Jackson, Merril loves the team, 357 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: wants to win on this team. He said he's gonna 358 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 3: give them a little room for spending power. Like, okay, 359 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 3: I mean that's a great thing to say. He's a star. 360 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 3: He's playing center field. That position actually usually doesn't age 361 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 3: well getting deep into your thirties, based on how much 362 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 3: of a toll it takes. So I don't fault him 363 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 3: for doing this. I don't fault him or his reps 364 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 3: for getting this done either, because I think if he's 365 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 3: so damn good, they'll keep adding an extension or two 366 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 3: on top of what he's doing, right, he just he screams, 367 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: Padre's player for life. In my mind, Ken Rosenthal bring 368 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 3: him up again, said, maybe one to two hundred million 369 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 3: dollars left on the table, but you would have had 370 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 3: to go deep into the arbitration process and then you know, 371 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 3: eventually get yourself to free agencies. So generally, with these 372 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 3: it's hard not to look at them as wins for 373 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 3: both sides. The only thing with Merrill is I think 374 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 3: he doesn't get to free agency until thirty two. If 375 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 3: he even gets there. At that point, how many teams 376 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 3: are investing major long term dollars in a thirty two 377 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 3: year old center fielder. I don't care who you are. 378 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 3: Not many, right, I mean that you just have to 379 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 3: play the law of averages in the past. But that 380 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 3: position just takes a hit suddenly giving him another You know, 381 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 3: he's not signing a ten year contract at that point, 382 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 3: even if he is a star. Based on how front 383 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 3: offices evaluate, so best case scenario, he's four or five 384 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 3: years into this thing, he's a stud. They add you know, 385 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 3: three to five more years on top of that, and 386 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 3: that's his whole career and he ends up making two 387 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 3: hundred something million dollars instead of maybe four hundred million dollars. 388 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 3: I mean whatever, he could also run into a wall 389 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 3: and it could end his career. And now he's got 390 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 3: the security. So I mean, you tell me, do you 391 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 3: ever look at these and go, oh man, player got robbed. 392 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 3: It's his first millions. 393 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 2: He got robbed. 394 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 3: Like what are you supposed to do? 395 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 396 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: I having never been offered anything remotely close to this, 397 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,719 Speaker 1: even before it was my time to negotiate it. 398 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 2: You know, I can't say. 399 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: I can't say that I wouldn't be like yep, I 400 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: will even as a starting pitcher, right. I just feel 401 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: like one hundred if anything over one hundred million dollars. 402 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: It's just like you can go from you can go 403 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: from making over one hundred, or you can go to 404 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: making like twenty. If it doesn't work out, you're gonna 405 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: make way less than that. It's not gonna be like close. 406 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: It's gonna be way less. If you try to go 407 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: through the system and say your fourth year, some some 408 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: some break your leg and it never heals right, and 409 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: then you're you know, you made fifteen million, Like you 410 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: gotta take on in thirty five. 411 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Christian Campbell. That type of thing. 412 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: When it's a less than ten ten in your position 413 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: player less than ten av that's when you think long 414 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: and hard about it. But like if you have fifteen, 415 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: if you get fifteen guaranteed for nine years every year, 416 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: it just like the difference you get dimission returns after that. 417 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: And also, like you said, he's gonna hit for agency again, 418 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: so he has an opportunity to correct if things are 419 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: drastically different, but they're not. They're not gonna be because 420 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: he's also not gonna be moving on a center field. 421 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: I don't hate it. And also when they sign this early, 422 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't affect markets as much as people think it 423 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: does either, And that's what I always think about. I'm like, 424 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: are you ruining markets for the future? And these guys 425 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: are so young that they're kind of in their own category. 426 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: But so okay, And the last, the last question I 427 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: have before I let you go, If you had to 428 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: make a prediction of these four, which one of these 429 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: do you think is most likely to have both sides benefit? 430 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 2: Like, which one's gonna work out the best for both sides? 431 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 3: Ooh, the question. I'll go Meryl. I'll go Meryl on 432 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 3: this one because I think that it's in the right 433 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 3: price range that like I mentioned, he's going to get 434 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 3: the extensions on top of it. And I'm just surprised 435 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 3: that teams don't do this more in general, they don't 436 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 3: grab a player who, now Merril is a prime example, 437 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,479 Speaker 3: already give you a star, if not superstar, first season, 438 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 3: first week. You know, he looks like the same guy already. 439 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 3: Not that I think that really mattered. I'm sure they 440 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 3: had been talking about this for a minute, but the 441 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 3: maryl one for me because you're catching a center fielder 442 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 3: not even entering his prime years, but you're gonna get 443 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 3: basically all of the prime years in this deal unless 444 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 3: he just falls off the face of the earth. And 445 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 3: he's a position player, that to me looks like the 446 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 3: biggest win Glad. He's going to go deep into his 447 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 3: career where you're going to get to the thirty eight 448 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 3: to thirty nine range, and who knows what he'll look 449 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 3: like at that point. So the length Crochet is a pitcher, 450 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 3: arms are taking time bomb. I'm always going to trust 451 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 3: a position player over a pitcher, and we just don't 452 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 3: know Campbell enough as a player yet, So I think 453 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 3: Merril is the safe bet here. And I'll finish my 454 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 3: statement with a question back to you, why don't more 455 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 3: teams do this? We see it frequently, but then there's 456 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 3: still some teams that pop up where I'm like, what 457 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 3: is going on here? Like our offer is being thrown 458 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 3: out and we're just missing something. I mean, the Orioles 459 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 3: are the prime example. Right now, nobody of that vaunted 460 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 3: young position player corps is signed long term. And even 461 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 3: if you're gonna blame Gunner on betting on himself and 462 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 3: he's a Boris guy, fine, but there's four or five 463 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 3: other guys on that roster that could be extension worthy 464 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 3: and they have not signed any of them. Adley Rutchman 465 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 3: coming off a down year sounds to me like a 466 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 3: great time to have a conversation with him, if unless 467 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 3: you don't believe in him, and now he looks like 468 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 3: two years ago Adley Colton Kasrew I know is hurt 469 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 3: right now, but in the offseason that could have been 470 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 3: a discussion too. And I could come up with a 471 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 3: few others. I mean, even Jackson Holliday, right, throw a 472 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 3: ton of money at him. Again. I think he's a 473 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 3: bors guy, but I just don't believe that the Oriols 474 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 3: throughout all these extension offers to these players, and I'm 475 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 3: wondering why you don't try and at least lock up 476 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 3: one or two to get some cost control. 477 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, especially with the Orioles. I'll be honest, I'm not 478 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: convinced that the new ownership group is willing to They 479 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: haven't really shown me anything that they're willing to do 480 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: more than the previous owner, the Angelo's people family was like, 481 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 1: honestly they bought it. Yeah great, but like they had 482 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: opportunities all kinds of sign free agents and all kinds 483 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: of stuff. This obviouselyason they're just not doing it. So 484 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: maybe they're out there, Maybe they're just not taking them. 485 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: They're getting like shut down by their agents. 486 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 2: Maybe not. 487 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: I think a lot of teams, though, are are the 488 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: last I think dominant to fall in the development and 489 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: projectability of their of their players is having the confidence 490 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: to then sign them long term. And I think maybe 491 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: this Crochet thing and this Christian Campbell thing might get 492 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: a couple of teams thinking about like the teams like 493 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: the Twins, all right, like go you gotta if roys Leus, 494 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: say royce Luis was healthy all the time. Let's say 495 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: he didn't have the injury problems yet, like he would 496 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,719 Speaker 1: have been a prime candidate to get something like this, but 497 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: they their offers are like four years twenty right, Like 498 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: so like that's that's just not gonna happen for a 499 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: position player anymore. You're not gonna get a Max Kepler 500 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: deal or or Hiplanco deal anymore. 501 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: So. 502 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 1: But if you can project and you feel comfortable in 503 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: your development and you're like, we know this guy's gonna 504 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: be good even though he doesn't have a track record, 505 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: I think still teams are still really really really wanting 506 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: to see track record before they make decisions like this. 507 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: And but I think some more teams, like we saw 508 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,239 Speaker 1: the Red Sox teams are going to start making more 509 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: decisions based on their models and how they project these 510 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: guys because they're confident in those and we just might 511 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: just be seeing that transition happening. More teams will probably follow, 512 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: that's my guess. Yeah, all right, but Scott, thank you 513 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: so much for joining The show Man. You were the 514 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 1: first inaugural guest, so you can put that back there 515 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: with that emmy, I'll get you, I'll get you a plaque. No, yeah, 516 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: give me something, no extension, but you can get like 517 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: a three D in a plaque or something. 518 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 2: We'll do that, or a may Day hat, something like that. 519 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: Hat. Yeah, may Day, may Day out shop anyone who 520 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: wants to make a hat? 521 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 2: All right, guys, I accompany then, thanks to Ron joining 522 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: the show. 523 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 3: M hm. 524 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: M m m mm hmmmmmmm