WEBVTT - Draft Day LIVE - Day 1 0:00:01.400 --> 0:00:03.920 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:10.840 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Welcome to Dallas Cowboys 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:14.440 dot COM's live bumper to bumper coverage of the twenty 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:20.400 fifteen NFL Draft with David Hellman, Nick Eatman, Rob Phillips, 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:25.880 Bill Jones, Cowboys Coaches, Draft Fix and special guests. Now 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:31.680 your hosts, Dane Brugler and Brian brought us and welcome 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:37.080 to Draft Day two thousand and fifteen. Along with Brian 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:40.440 brought us Dane Brugler and David Hellman, I am Bill 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:44.440 Jones and finally, at long last, it is here. It 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:47.480 is draft time, not only at Valley Ranch, but also 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:50.680 in Chicago in all parts in between. What do you 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:53.159 think you're ready? I'll tell you what I've you know, 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:56.840 we've been and first off, welcome to our little party 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:59.760 that we've had and I've been joined less well, thank you, 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:01.960 and it's it's a pleasure to have you here. And 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:06.200 it also though excited because we've started this journey. It 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:09.959 feels like forever ago. We go back to the catch 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:13.480 no catch, and then two three days after that you 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:15.679 start looking at players getting ready for the Senior Bowl. 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:20.360 We start doing shows there the combine. So we've carried this, 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:23.520 We've carried the ball to the goal line here. Now 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.440 it's about time to knock this one home and get 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:28.400 it going. You know what just dawned on me too, 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:30.759 Like literally as we were leading into the show, like 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:33.680 I'm pumped out of my mind, I'm excited. We've been 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.440 talking about this since January. We've been studying these players, 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:39.240 talking about it, beating it into the ground, and it 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:41.520 just dawned on me. These guys have been doing the 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:44.640 same thing, but with much much higher stakes, Like nobody 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:46.720 cares if I get to pick wrong. You know, I 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:50.120 can't even imagine what it feels like. I mean, I'm 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:52.520 gonna be bummed buck playing about it already when we 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:54.480 started to My job's not on the line if I 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:56.440 don't hit Oh yeah, And you know I've been in 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:58.440 that chair. I can't even imagine how it feels to 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:00.880 be in Will McClay right now, out this guy over here. 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:04.120 Dane Brugler, CBS Sports course of the Draft show as well. 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:07.320 How many hours would you say into giving your you 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:11.720 devote to your draft cover. There's no way to quantify it, 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:14.200 but that's what it takes. That's what scouting is. I mean, 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:16.040 how many how many years were you in the league? 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.640 Giving it's just yeah, thirteen is a marathon. Could doing 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:21.079 these drafts since ninety two and it's changed so much. 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:25.079 Very first draft was twelve rounds and I couldn't imagine 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:28.160 as exhausted as I get now, you know, having to 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:29.799 go through that. But I was. I was a young 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:32.080 man like these guys, you know, doing this stuff, so 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:34.120 I had much better. Jane, how long have you been 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:37.560 at it? Uh? Started in uh in college. I did 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:40.160 my first my first draft book, that was about two 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:42.080 thousand and five or so. So but I'm a decade 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.600 of this. I've been with CBS last four years, five 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.960 years now. So it's uh, it's it's it's fun, it 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:50.560 really is. And so it's, uh, let's get this thing started. 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:52.800 I think when you said finally, I mean that that's it. 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:55.960 That's the buzzword. Finally. Yep, and we're gonna be here 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.240 throughout the draft. This is the first time the Dallas 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:03.480 Cowboys dot Com has had the exclusive Inside Valley Ranch 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:06.160 Picked by Pick coverage of the draft. I know, Brian, 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:08.320 you're very excited about Yeah, you know, Bill, I I 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:11.280 feel like I beat Derek Eagleton up a little bit 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:13.920 about this, but you know, and and and again this 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:16.640 goes back to the platform we have, you know, with 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:21.239 Dallas Cowboys dot Com and all that gums entails what 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.240 we do and to come in and to be able 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:24.960 to work on the draft the way we have and 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.720 every week, but to finally get it and go from 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.600 the first pick to the last pick. And I don't 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:34.480 I challenge anybody to have any coverage that's any better 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:37.240 from what we've been being with the players at the 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:40.080 Senior Bowl, the Combine. You know, Dane looking at players, 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:42.520 myself looking at players, it's just Dave Well, it's all 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:45.160 this acts and you know yourself. I mean, this man 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:47.720 right here just wears me out when it comes to 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:49.520 draft talk. And that's what I've got. I got my 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:53.120 big great NFL drafts and I go back. Bill was 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:54.600 one of the first ones ever to put me on 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:57.320 TV to talk about the draft, so I always have 0:03:57.400 --> 0:03:59.520 a soft spot for him there. But yeah, you know, 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:02.440 if you get people together that are passionate about the draft, 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:05.120 and we have a lot of people out there that 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.880 are very passionate about the draft and watching us right now. 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:10.440 So this is a fun time for them as well. 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:13.960 And behind the scenes of course, here we've got Ken Garrison, 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:17.240 Lauren so called Douglas Barrick Lowe as they will keep 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:20.240 us in tune with actually not only what's going on 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.479 in the draft, but also what's going on in the 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:25.560 draft room. And here, when we have access to it, 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:30.320 you will be able to look inside the draft room. Jerry, Steve, Jason, Gary. 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:32.200 They've got it covered up right now, so we can't 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.760 show it to you yet, but basically, as soon as 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.920 we can, you're gonna be watching that and not watching 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.440 our ugly mugs, right, but a lot of yeah, a 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:42.640 lot of voiceover, right, a lot of voiceover stuff, but 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:45.560 you'll see what's going on in the draft room. It's 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:48.040 this is a time though, and from my own personal 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:51.479 experience of being with Jerry Jones Stephen Jones for six 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:55.159 years in that war room, a lot of crazy things happen, 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.440 but this is actually all the work that the scouts. 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:01.680 It comes to the very end here now and actually 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:04.680 this is the calmest time. You know, you battle, and 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.480 we've had some good battles. We did a mock draft yesterday, 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.360 but this is really the calmest time for the scouts 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:14.559 because you know the board is set and there's there's 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:18.760 no surprises. Now it's the You know, if you Steven 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:22.680 Jones and and Jerry Jones and Will McClay, they've given 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:25.040 everybody their chance to say their peace. You know, if 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.240 you don't like where a player is on that board, 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:31.560 you know today is not the day to talk about it. Yesterday, 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.440 two days ago, that was the day to talk about it. 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:36.920 And the scouts take a lot of pride in that 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:40.360 board that that's your baby right there. And when when 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:43.000 those when those tags start coming off the board, you 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:45.560 get very excited about it. But too where they're picking 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:49.680 at twenty seven, it's very nerve racking. It's it's you know, 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:51.880 I've been a part of some drafts where it's been 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:55.440 down at the bottom and Stephen Jones said this, he 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:58.839 can't tell you who's gonna be there. We can't. We 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.280 we we could give you some ideas, but if you're 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:03.720 picking it five or six, you at least have an 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.080 idea who you might get. Even last year at sixteen, 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:08.960 you had a little bit of an idea was there. 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:10.640 You had four or five guys you had your eye 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:12.480 on you felt pretty good one would be there for 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.400 you right this year, who knows? Twenty seven it's and 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:18.919 I feel like people, you know, fans are maybe less 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.160 willing to get excited about the twenty seventh pick. It's 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:23.039 not going to be a flashy name at least, you know, 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:26.479 in the to a general fan at least obviously Draftnicks 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:29.640 or a different breed entirely. But I think it's more exciting. 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:33.719 I think the unknown. We have no idea. It could 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:35.640 be so many different things. It could be a trade up, 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:37.000 it could be a trade back, it could be one 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.920 of about eight different guys. Maybe somebody slips. I think 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:43.600 it's way more exciting being back here and having an 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.360 infinite number of possibilities as opposed to being a top 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:49.160 five pick and you kind of know what's going to happen. Well, 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.040 the fact of the matter two that you have a 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:54.520 couple of potentially top ten picks did have had some 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:58.920 off the field issues, maybe some medical issues you know, 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:02.480 you don't know. And when you're initially you talk about 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:04.320 a guy like Randy Gregory, and I know we'll get 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:06.480 into all these guys. But when you're sitting there and 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:08.760 now a sudden you think, wow, we would have never 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.120 you know, if all things are clean, never would have 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.680 had a shot, probably to Randy Gregory right right now, 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:17.600 all of a sudden, Oh, it's like, whoa wait a minute, 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.160 now we've got to talk this thing through. I distinctly 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:23.480 remember in the you know, ball season January when this 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:27.640 was first going, Williams, Jamis and Gregory were the three. 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:29.440 I mean, Gregory was the top five guy when this 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:32.000 all started. So the fact that he's not just a 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:35.520 possibility but a realistic one is amazing to me. And 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.680 even from a draft standpoint, here's a guy that a 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.200 lot of people had top ten pick. Whatever. That goes 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:44.040 to show that you have to do your homework on 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:47.120 every prospect in the draft, every possible first round pick, 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.760 even if they're projected to go top five in the draft, 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:52.200 because you don't know what's going to happen. And even 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.160 in the twenty four hours prior to the draft, to 0:07:54.240 --> 0:08:00.840 Collins tackle from that's very unfortunate. And if he is 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:04.440 innocent and you know, not connected at all or you know, somewhat, 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.800 but it's unfortunate for the player. It really is. I think, 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.120 I mean, I don't think there's a precedent for this, 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:13.080 and we found out he's been his appeal to go 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:16.000 into the supplemental draft has been denied. Right, So, now 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:18.280 you're sitting here in a circumstance where this guy is 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:21.880 top ten, top twenty at least talent. You take a 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.000 chance on him in the later rounds? Do you let 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.920 him go undrafted and have a priority free agent who's 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:28.880 got a first round grade? I mean, who knows what's 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.520 going to happen with that? Yeah, I just this is 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:33.400 one of those things where you you I think you 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:36.040 have to evaluate the player, and I think you have 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:39.680 to respect where you put him on that board. Yeah, now, 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:44.800 but you also have to be conscious. I don't know. 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:48.200 I mean there's a side of me that believes that 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:51.480 he might get out of the first round. But I 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:53.480 think there's somebody would take a shot in the second 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:55.720 round thinking to wait a minute, We've done our due 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:59.560 diligence on this. They know a lot more information than 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.520 then we do about it, and I think this is 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:05.600 something that I'm not saying this is gonna catch teams 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.720 by surprise, because do you think that they probably knew 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.560 something was what's going I mean, I'm asking the question, 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:13.280 do you think that they're I mean, this is something 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:16.679 that teams do such a great job. I didn't tell you. Yeah, 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:18.640 and I don't know how talking to Scots about Lyle 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:21.200 Collins throughout the process, you got he was a little 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:24.640 lazy earlier in his career. Yeah, but he grew as 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:27.480 a as a junior and senior. And but off field, 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:29.720 there weren't many concerns. There weren't there weren't any of 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:32.120 those red flags that you see with these other prospects. 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:34.080 So this is really out of left field and something 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:38.240 that has teams really scrambling the fine details, find out 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:41.640 more information. And it's it's a tough situation because he's 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:44.839 not a suspect. It's it's important to point that out right, 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:48.480 it's a former girlfriend, right, And it's but where where 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.120 where is his value as a player? Where do you 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:54.240 feel comfortable drafting him? That's something where you ask all 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:56.960 thirty two teams, you'll get a different answer. I feel 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:58.800 pretty confident in saying we're not going to hear his 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.719 name tonight. I agree based on something that's happened in 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:03.600 the last three I mean yeah, I mean we're sitting 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:07.040 here saying, you know, maybe Monday as recently as Monday, 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:10.000 that he's a possible. You don't think a team, You 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.920 don't think a team would take a shot at him 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.280 a New England at thirty two in the first thirty 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:17.960 two picks. You can't. You can't. He could be. He 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:19.800 could I mean again, I I mean, I don't know 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:21.880 a lot about the case. He's not a suspect, but 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.880 he could be. He could be. He could be charged 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.120 and in a criminal investigation as read as soon as 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.319 next week. Knowing what we know right now, you can't. 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:32.240 Now NFL teams might have more information we don't know, 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:35.400 and if they do, that changes things somewhat. But knowing 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:38.280 what we know as outsiders, you just can't. You can't 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:40.120 take that chance. Why do you think the timing though? 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:43.480 Why why the timing? Now that's a great question. I mean, 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:47.040 why is this something that was not done weeks ago? 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:50.240 Let's the authorities don't care about the NFL draft. I 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:53.360 think it's more unfortunate than you know. Strategic are you? 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:55.840 Are you suggesting an agenda here? Is that what's going? 0:10:56.280 --> 0:11:00.280 I'm suggesting I'll check up to something, to something. Maybe 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:04.679 Belicheck rustrated this. I'll tell you what though, you guys. 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:08.080 You guys totally dismiss it. And I'll stand corrected. I'll 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:10.880 stand corrected. I just at some point, but at the 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.000 back end of that draft, oh no, no, no, I 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:15.240 mean this and and I'll tell you one thing. I 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:17.440 sat with the news, I sat with the New England 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:20.320 scouts at the at the Senior pol And and and 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:23.280 let me tell you what, talking about that player, it 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.520 was like, no way, we're not going to see this guy. 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:27.680 It doesn't matter though, it doesn't matter the talent level, 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:29.920 because you got what's happening right now, and you gotta 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.559 I mean, you know the ten game suspension that Greg 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.720 Hardy just got for your Dallas Cowboys. Uh, you know, 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.480 it's a at least a slightly different NFL than it 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:40.439 might have been a year. How about the Saints. Of course, 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:43.880 it's LSU player. Saints pick at thirty one in the 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:49.080 first round. Yeah, you just a guard. Yeah, maybe there's 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:52.000 nothing to it. They tell a little prosecuting attorney down 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.800 there in New Orleans that hey, just just float this 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:57.000 out there. If he goes in the first round tonight, 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:59.520 then the team that takes him and knows something that 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:01.760 that the general public is not privy too. I think 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:04.680 that's a fair statement. Just a couple of minutes away 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:09.440 from the Commissioner striding to the podium in Chicago and 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:13.560 the Tampa Bay Buccaneers will be on the clock, and 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:18.120 you've got coverage from a Cowboys perspective right here around 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:22.120 the clock today, tomorrow, and on Saturday. Bill Jones, Brian 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:24.640 brought us, Dain Brugler, David Helmett, and we'll have a 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.120 cast of thousands coming in here as well. No doubt 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:29.080 we do have to take breaks along the way when 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:33.560 you're talking about that extensive coverage. All right, Randy Gregory, 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:35.319 we talked about Randy Gregory a little bit. I see 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:38.400 some in the media who are projecting Gregory to the 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:42.240 Cowboys at number twenty seven. Do you think is legitimate 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:45.640 interest on the Cowboys standpoint, They've done their homework obviously 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:48.720 on the player, right, there's a legitimate possibility they could 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.120 pull the trigger on already. I think so. I I 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:55.760 you know, to me, Randy Gregory is a first round talent. Yeah. 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:58.360 Now the off the field stuff, that's why I'm talking 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:01.040 about that. Yeah, And Jason here it hammered this to 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:05.120 us the other day about there the support systems and 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:08.960 things in place and how they handle players case by case. 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:13.160 I don't see Randy Gregory off their board unless something's 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.120 changed in the last forty eight hours and he is, 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.520 you know, he finds his way down to twenty seven. 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:22.400 I expect Randy Gregory to be picked at twenty seven 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:24.839 if in fact he is on the five. Yeah. I 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.520 think if he's on the board at twenty seven, I 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:29.240 don't think he's on the board at twenty eight. I 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:32.559 think Randy Gregory not only does he is, he a 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:34.880 value pick at that point. If you feel comfortable with 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.080 who he is as an individual, it's gonna be tough 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.760 to pass. But again, he's not a flawless prospect on 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.079 the field. No, and you were talking about a player 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:45.360 that's light. You worry about the growth potential he has 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:47.800 to sustain that way. He's a skinny dude, he is, 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.439 and it's it's something worth But let's but let's also 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:53.480 look at the scheme. Let's look at the Cowboys scheme. 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:56.080 Here are they going to ask Randy Gregory to play 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:59.240 sixty five plays a game that's not Marinelli's style. No matter, 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:01.480 that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying all of 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.199 a sudden, if you get a guy and you start 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:06.520 mintsie at right end and and then you bring a 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:10.760 Randy Gregory into the game kie year. Yeah. See that 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:15.640 to me exactly So to me, that's where I you know, 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:17.760 people are like, well, is he too light, Brian? Is 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:21.360 he two six five, two thirty five? Yeah? Combine yeah 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.320 and that and that's and that's what he is. But 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:26.800 he is a hell of a football player in a 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:28.520 lot of regard. I mean, and you just look at 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:31.640 the talent. Now, there's times where he will he will 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:33.880 make you mad. I mean there are times where you 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:37.240 watch him get blocked, get widened, all these things off 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:39.640 the field because of a hangnail exactly. That that now, 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:42.640 that's fair, that's fair. But there's a lot of people 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:46.120 that saw him as a top ten type of a talent. 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:48.960 Brian brought us big board. You got him top ten, 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.480 top fifteen. I don't, okay, I don't. Did you have 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:53.120 him in your top where'd you have him in your fifteen? 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.040 I did have him in my fifty. Let me see 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:59.600 where my had him down. I had him down here 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.840 might be low. Let's see I had him. I had 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:05.280 him with a second round grade is what I had him, 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.600 which I mean when you're picking at twenty seven, right, 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:10.960 I mean I had him roughly at around twenty six 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.920 twenty seven. That's the thing about Brian listening to his 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.960 coverage through the years here is he does it, and 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:19.360 he does his markets from a Cowboys perspective. It's not 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:21.200 from a Brian broad his perspective of what he would 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:23.080 do and that I'm just telling you I think that 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:26.240 they would and thank you for explaining that though I 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.920 think that to me, Dane said it. There are flaws 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.480 in the player. I think he's a good football, but 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.760 there are flaws. But there's people that saw him a 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:40.520 lot higher than me. My evaluation of him was as 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:42.920 a player and not a guy that likes to smoke 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:46.120 dope on Friday nights. And he explains some of the 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:49.360 dope smoking that he has some mental anxiety on occasion 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:54.160 and that's the reason that he is dabbled in that. Yeah, 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:58.400 but he does not fit the right kind of guy 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:01.520 criteria from that Stampard point and doesn't appear when from 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:05.080 what we've seen in the first round here recently, where 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:10.040 you've got squeaky cleaner Jack Martin, Travis Breck and you 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.680 look at character guys. It's important not to paint with 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:16.000 a broad brush and say, okay, well, Dez Bryant his 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.840 issues is a little different than Randy greg You have 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:20.920 to look at these individuals and say, you know, how 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:24.200 can we help make sure that he is on the field, 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:26.920 he's there for us? You know what support system does 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.760 he need? So with if Brandy Gregory does end up 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.680 a Dallas Cowboy, that's a poor system by the Cowboys 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:35.440 will be important. You can go two different ways with that. 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:38.880 And I agree with everything y'all just said. And if 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.120 there's a team that's proven a they're unafraid to do 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.240 that and be that they can handle it. I mean 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:46.400 you look at I mean Dez, Josh, Brent, Greg Hardy, 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.840 Rolando McClain, all these guys that need that support system 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:52.200 and it's worked to this point. The thing, and this 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.960 has scared me going back to free agency, is at 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.280 what point do you have like too many of those 0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:59.880 situations in one locker room? You know, I do worry 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.880 about maintain a lot of them on the defensive side 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:04.560 of the ball. I worry. I mean, you know, you 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:06.480 don't want to have you don't want to have the 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:09.560 Looney's running the Looney bat well, and I look at 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:11.800 it different crass way to put it, but I look 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.240 at it when you're drafting a player, especially a first 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:18.040 round pick, differently than say signing a Greg Hardy. Obviously, 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:20.960 the baggage well known when Hardy came in. But he's 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:22.960 a rental. He's a one years I mean, if you 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:25.040 sign if a first round pick, especially if you got 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.879 basically have his rights for five years and he's a 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.639 core part of your team long term thought process. So 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:32.680 let me ask you, cares me, let me ask you, guys, 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:34.920 and and we'll get into it more. If he's selected 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:39.200 though likely to be good player, outstanding player, or a 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:43.400 bust who Gregory Gregory, I think he'll probably be. I mean, 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:45.240 if I mean, if I have to project right now, 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:48.199 I'd say he'll be like a good player never you know, 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:53.040 not de Marcus Ware. But I got him as a bust. Yeah. 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:55.760 And because of the issues, Yeah, that's something you just 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.480 can't ignore the issues. But I would probably fall somewhere 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:01.320 in between these two guys. You know, I'm kind of 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:04.160 fence riding there, but you know, I'm really worried about 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:06.760 the issues. But he's a good player, he's a good athlete, 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.200 a lot of things alike. Twenty seven. You're still scared, 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:11.400 then I'll go out. I'll go out on the land. 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:13.280 I don't like him at all, not at twentys, not 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:15.600 in the first round. He'd be for me. It'd be 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:18.720 like what the Cardinals did with Tyron Matthew in the 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:21.480 third round, something like that. I like that. Ye Hey, 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:25.080 it's the commission. The Commission is at the podium in Chicago. 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:27.040 I wonder if they're booing him. We don't have sound 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:31.679 now tonight they're booing him for the first time in 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:38.240 fifty one years. Shytown is said, shytown. I don't know, Roger. 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:43.600 I leave that to Kanye West. Thank you, and welcome 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:46.400 to the thousands of fans and a ride here from Chicago. 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:50.320 The mallions of fans are watching on the NFL network 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:55.080 in the ESPN. Don't forget about Dallascowboys fans around the world. 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:59.600 The heartfelt thank you for making the NFL great. So 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:06.600 you're even the draft. Let's get started, all right, It's 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:12.959 time to have some fun. The twenty and fifteen NFL 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:18.720 Draft is officially open. It is officially open by the 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:23.280 way fifty one years ago, nineteen sixty four, the last 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:27.000 time the draft was held in Chicago. Who the Cowboys 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:30.960 picked that year's pretty good draft? Rogers the tenth round 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:33.199 pick that year. I feel bad that I got to 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:36.200 draft day without learning that. Well, it's funny he didn't 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:38.320 even find out he was drafted until the next day 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:40.399 when he read it in the paper. That just tells 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:44.399 you compared to what it is now. And uh, you 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:47.680 had two other Hall of Famers taken by Gil Brandt 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:50.880 and the Cowboys in that draft. Second round, mel Renfro, 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:53.440 I think the right there behind you on the wall 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:56.800 in fifth round, I think Bob Hayes. Bob Hayes not 0:19:56.920 --> 0:20:00.160 a bad draft. Actually, Bob Hayes was selected before. We're 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:03.920 Bill Parcels Parcels Alliance. Yeah, the three Ring of Honor 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:06.000 members in one draft. If I'm not mistaken, what do 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:10.240 what the forty type was for Parcels dug up, not 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:14.919 thinking he wasn't now qualified as a Bill Parcels is 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:17.639 happy that there's no combine coverage. I think that night 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:19.760 Bill brand knew what he was doing, knows what he's 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:22.040 doing with the with the Buccaneers on the clock now, 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:24.600 and it's as we're rolling here, it's eight fifty as 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:28.199 they've started. Are you on board with this potentially with 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:31.320 the Mariota pick actume with the Winston pick? Yes, I am. 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:34.880 I mean it's he's you can talk about the off field, 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:37.520 you can talk about maturity concerns. You have to roll 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:39.439 the dice on him, you have to what he showed 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:42.000 on tape. I feel very comfortable with the player that 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:44.199 you're getting for a player that just turned twenty one 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:47.000 years old, what he showed me on tape, I'm really 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:49.560 excited for who he's going to be at the NFL level, 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:52.480 as long as he stays mature and you know you 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:55.800 he takes care of business off the field. So when 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:57.640 you take me, you look at these quarterbacks early, it's 0:20:57.640 --> 0:20:59.639 fifty fifty. Whether they're going to pan out, I'll take 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:02.040 my ends with Winston. They have The biggest question mark 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:04.639 I have on him as a player on the field 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:07.479 are the eighteen picks that he threw last year King 0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:11.520 and that's not unprecedented. Dan Marino had twenty three interceptions 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:14.160 his senior year. He had a great junior year, bad 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:17.320 senior year he had He actually had more interceptions and touchdowns, 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:20.159 So it's not unprecedented, but absolutely it's something that is 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:22.639 in the equation. And for Winston, he had forty touchdowns, 0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:26.399 ten interceptions freshman, that's right, is a Richard freshman. Then 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:29.240 this past year twenty five touchdowns, eighteen interceptions. I think 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:32.480 the thing that bothered me the most about him is 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:35.760 you talk about the turnovers. I worry about the lack 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:39.080 of mobility and and I'm saying from a and there's 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:43.080 some lack of mobility pocket standpoint. Yeah, so you think 0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:45.399 he's slow even for a pocket Yeah, I have. I 0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:48.400 have some issues when when things start to break down, 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:50.479 you see him have to move. And he's had some 0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:53.719 runs where he's been you know, got through and managed 0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:57.080 to bounce off scrambler. He's not And I think that's 0:21:57.119 --> 0:21:59.800 the thing that I would worry about though, if he's 0:21:59.880 --> 0:22:03.159 not well protected initially and then having to make a 0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:06.640 lot of moves and then having to throw the ball. 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:10.200 I think when you pressure him, just noticing on the tape, 0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:13.240 the biggest trouble and you can say it's about any quarterback, 0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:16.520 but especially this one. The more pressure he would face, 0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:20.760 the worst he would play, in my opinion. And that's 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:23.879 and That's interesting because I was there were times and 0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:27.400 I'm not just talking about the Oregon game and having 0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:30.280 to come back because he is a rallying quarterback. I 0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:32.840 mean the one loss on his right, yeah exactly, but 0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:36.520 when you watch the mistakes that he had, it was 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:40.199 him having to do something move to throw when you 0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:42.479 when you stand there and throw. He can make the throws. 0:22:42.840 --> 0:22:46.000 Oh yeah, But I worried about. I worry about if 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:50.840 the Buccaneers don't protect him well enough initially, which offensive 0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:53.080 line is not a strength for the Tami. I'll be 0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:55.359 honest with you. I disagree with you there. I like 0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:58.600 his mobility in the pocket compared to what a lot 0:22:58.640 --> 0:23:03.120 of these college guys slide just to slide. I think 0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:05.280 he can sense it, and he can. I've seen him 0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:08.199 do it enough, recognize blitzes, move in the pocket and 0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:10.680 be able to sense where that pressure is coming from. Now, 0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:13.280 does he need to improve in a lot of areas there? Yes? 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:16.199 Is he Marcus Mariota when it comes to moving around? No, 0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:18.879 he's not. He doesn't have that type of athleticism. But 0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:23.320 I'm still okay with you know, his pocket mobility, his movement, 0:23:23.400 --> 0:23:27.080 his ability to sense pressure. I think perhaps his biggest 0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:29.840 the biggest difference for him from his red shirt freshman 0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:32.080 year to his red shirt sophomore year. He didn't have 0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:36.720 Kelvin and he's got he's got a nice little white 0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:38.679 out out down there in Tampa. If they I mean, 0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:42.399 if they do pick him here, yeah, that's the Johnny 0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:45.000 Man's And that was the biggest difference for Man as 0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:47.320 well when he didn't have Mike Evans well. And that 0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:49.280 was one of the big things for Winston this year 0:23:49.359 --> 0:23:52.639 is he relied so much on Rashad Green and Nico 0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:56.800 Leary and defense is picked up and defenses knew that. 0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:58.959 So I think that's where a lot of those interceptions 0:23:58.960 --> 0:24:01.840 came from. That's the that's the right there on the TV. 0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:04.399 They haven't they haven't got finished above five hundred and 0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:06.960 four years. They haven't made the playoffs in seven seasons. 0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:09.560 And I don't like, I know, Leonard Williams is the 0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:12.160 number one guy on Dane's board. I don't think Leonard 0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:15.040 Williams is reversing your your fortunes in that situation. I 0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:16.840 think you got to roll the dice and if they 0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:21.680 hit on Jamis, then they're immediately relevant and immediately in contention. 0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:24.560 For a playoff spot for the next decade or more. 0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:27.800 Potential trouble spot for Jamis Winston might be the fact 0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:30.639 that he's staying home. Absolutely, I mean, I mean, there 0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:33.879 a lot of people say that it's better, especially for 0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:36.120 a kid who's had some problems, to get away from home. 0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:38.520 So it'll be so interesting to see how it plays out. 0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:42.280 The pick is in. We await the commissioner heading to 0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:45.080 the pody. By the way, we're watching the NFL network coverage, 0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:48.440 which I'm sure if you are by a television you're 0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:50.840 doing the same and you obviously have the sound turned 0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:55.560 down right here to our live coverage of the NFL 0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:57.760 Draft twenty fifteen. Did you think there was a big 0:24:57.800 --> 0:25:00.359 difference between Winston and Mariota when you were doing that 0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:03.639 your study, big difference, not necessarily, but I felt more 0:25:03.640 --> 0:25:07.760 comfortable with the transition because pro style offense compared to 0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:10.840 what happened at Oregon. I felt more comfortable watching Winston's 0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:13.840 tape and saying NFL throw as an NFL throw, I 0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:16.399 felt more. I feel more comfortable with Winston as he 0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:19.920 goes to the NFL level, and Winston he's someone we'll 0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:21.760 see next year as a rookie. He's not going to 0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:24.040 be sitting the bench. We will see Winston on the field. 0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:26.320 Markus Mariota, we'll see where he ends up. If it's 0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:29.120 in Tennessee. A good chance we don't see Marcus Mariota 0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:31.160 at least to begin the season. I'm interested to see 0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:33.800 where Mike Glennon winds up if he's if they just 0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:36.760 keep him there and says the backup to Winston or 0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:39.720 what could I agree with you? Winston's gonna be playing. Yeah, 0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:41.159 it could be a nice trade piece for it the 0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:43.879 team that doesn't get their quarterback in this draft, you know, 0:25:43.960 --> 0:25:46.520 later on maybe Friday Saturday. Do you think he was 0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:49.520 is Glennon and watching him play? Do you think though 0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:53.879 there's salvageable though when you watch him play Glennon, Yeah, 0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:55.560 I don't think he's. I mean, there's a reason the 0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:57.880 Tampa Bay Buccaneers are picking number one overall and they're 0:25:57.880 --> 0:25:59.959 gonna about to draft the quarterback. They basically didn't get 0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:03.200 him a shot once Lovey came in there last year. Yeah, 0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:06.840 you know, Josh McCown, who's Cleveland Brown now the commissioner 0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:10.399 making his way to the podium. Now we're the first 0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:15.480 pick In the twenty fifteen NFL Draft, the Tampa Bay 0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:21.520 Buccaneers select Jameis Winston. Quota quota thing. Oh he's happy. 0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:26.280 That guy's thrilled. There you have it. We are underway. 0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:29.879 Jamis Winston, of course, not making the way to Chicago. 0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:33.760 He looks so surprised. Is there another league in the 0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:35.800 world where a guy would put on that get up 0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:39.120 to go to Chicago to watch somebody announced that they 0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:40.960 got a guy who will play for them five months 0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:44.360 from now. Now that's the great thing about That's insane 0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:47.000 and in the fans and all, but yeah, absolutely so. 0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:50.800 Uh big decision here though, you know Lovey Smith in 0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:53.720 that group last year, you know that maybe that was 0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:56.760 a little bit of Uh. I think maybe some surprise 0:26:56.960 --> 0:27:00.520 with with way the Buccaneers play. Lovey Lovey always been 0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:04.120 a guy that's come in. Teams have been solid. Defense 0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:07.000 has always been solid. Did you think that team was 0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:11.159 that talent poor in certain areas? They definitely are. You 0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:13.480 talk about the offensive line, offensive line, you can look 0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:16.240 on defense, then they need some help. And a team 0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:17.960 that in the last few years have made a lot 0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:20.920 of splashes in free agency and that hasn't worked out, 0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:23.320 and so I think now we'll see what they do 0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:26.639 moving forward in this draft. Hopefully they build from within, 0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:31.119 but there's a nice foundation there with Mike Evans, Vincent Jackson, 0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:34.879 Austin Seferie and Jenkins. Jamis Winston has some tall trees 0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:38.199 to throw too in Tampa. So it's gonna be it's 0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:40.280 gonna be interesting how this how it plays out this 0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:42.600 year when he's a rookie. And of course they didn't 0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:46.240 do anything basically offensively in free agency, but there's several 0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:49.840 former Cowboys now who are Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and Bruce Carter, 0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:53.960 Henry Milton and Sterling Moore. Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be 0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:56.160 all right. So I mean, so you got a Cowboys 0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:59.320 contingent and the number one pick in the draft to 0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:01.760 look forward to. The Cowboys go down there two weeks 0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:06.439 before Thanksgiving, see, and and that'll be that's something, and 0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:09.720 that'll be something that's you know, by that time played 0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:12.560 quite a few games. Yeah, I think you'll have an idea. 0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:16.080 You were taught last year with Dane with Teddy Bridgewater. 0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:18.359 You know, by the end of the season, Teddy Bridgewater 0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:22.080 was played pretty well and by the way Dane Brugler 0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:25.040 had Teddy Bridgewater as his number one guy on his 0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:28.960 big board, so hopefully he keeps that going to keep 0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:32.480 that runner there, he's got a shot too. Yeah, Tennessee 0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:34.560 is on the clock, and this is where this draft 0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:37.960 gets interested. There's been so much speculation draft starts on 0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:41.960 what will Tennessee do, and their phone line has been 0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:44.560 burning up here in the last several days, I'm sure, 0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:46.640 especially the last several hours. I don't know if you 0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:48.200 guys saw this, it was right around the time we 0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:51.320 actually started the show, but Ian Rappapor with NFL dot 0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:56.280 Com is reporting Philly is offered at Tennessee two first rounders, 0:28:56.320 --> 0:29:01.400 a third rounder, Fletcher Cox is it, Brandon Boykin, that's quarterback, 0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:05.800 Michael Kendricks their linebacker, and Sam Bradford to get to 0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:08.840 this pick, and apparently rabbitfre says it's not enough Tennessee 0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:11.560 once more. Wow, I mean that's a hot always at 0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:14.720 two ones two ones, so one this year and next year, 0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:18.080 a third this year. Fletcher Cox, who is a boss 0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:22.000 at that for at defensive line at the nose, Brandon Boykin, 0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:26.960 who's a decent okay dB. Michael Kendricks who has been 0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:29.600 good for them, So how close is Cox to free agency. 0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:32.960 I want to say they just picked up his option, 0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:35.520 so he's good. They have to pay him after one 0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:38.680 season based BOYCN is probably into his free agent year 0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:41.760 coming up, and Sam Bradford also is last year, and 0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:43.760 so I mean that's a really that is a very 0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:46.600 good point. Is that this is a short term options. 0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:48.960 They look at it as two ones in the three. Yeah, 0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:52.080 that's a really great point. Okay, it's gonna either come 0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:56.280 down to the quarterback or Williams, right, Leonard Williams, is 0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:58.880 that who you know? If you Marcus Mariota is getting 0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:01.720 picked here, I I just I don't. I'm not good 0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:04.560 even be a scenario wherever he gets picked and then 0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:07.240 go somewhere else. I think that's definitely impossible. That is 0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:09.720 that's a good point. I mean, really, it hasn't happened 0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:13.880 since since ELI and four. Yeah, but so it's not 0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:16.200 a common occurrence, but it is something if a deal 0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:19.800 does not get done now. But I think you're right, Uh, 0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:22.800 Mariota is the pick here. It has to be either 0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:24.959 because somebody's that desperate to get him, or I mean, 0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:27.480 Tennessee's not in a much different boat than Tampa Bay. 0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:29.360 In my opinion. And we don't know if Tennessee's been 0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:33.760 lying all all along, but apparently wizen Hunt likes Mettenburger, 0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:39.760 former LASU quarterback. I mean he's the next coming. He's yea. 0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:42.520 If I'm making the picks, I'm like Mariota, no thank 0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:44.800 you because Mettenberger's taking And by the way, there was 0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:47.520 some speculation that Philip Rivers could get traded from San 0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:50.320 Diego to Tennessee. And Philip Rivers was told today by 0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:52.640 the Chargers he's not getting traded and they're talking about 0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:57.480 a contract extension for him. Huh. Well you know this 0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:01.040 one though, bothers me a little bit. Why is that? Well, again, 0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:05.440 the skill level of the player. Can can this quarterback 0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:08.640 make all the throne? And how quickly can he adapt 0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:10.640 to the NFL game? I think you have a bigger 0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:14.160 question about that, about how he adapts. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, 0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:16.320 I mean that's you watch the tape. You can see 0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:19.040 the traits he I think he can do it all. 0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:22.080 But just arm strength though, I'm okay with the arms, right, 0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:24.000 It's not it's not elite, but I'm okay with it. 0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:27.040 It's it's it's passable, it's a it's a it's enough, um, 0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:30.560 But in this league, you have to be accurate. Right. Yes, 0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:33.320 he set a record at Oregon for completion percentage, but 0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:37.480 you watch this offense. It allowed receivers to be wide open, 0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:39.680 and he would miss those a lot of times. I 0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:42.600 just worry about that. That's where I disagree with you 0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:44.360 on that, because I thought that was one of his 0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:48.280 best traits that he had. With the accuracy part of it, though, 0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:50.840 I mean, I'm not saying it was. It is. I'd 0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:53.120 say best traits, but one of the traits when the 0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:56.640 ball was coming out he was guys were catching it 0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:59.040 on the move and stuff like that. Money threw six 0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:01.840 picks in college or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The thing 0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:03.920 about it, I didn't see the ball going down the field. 0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:07.400 That's why I thought that as a player, as a quarterback, 0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:11.240 I'm thinking, Okay, he's accurate because everything is, everything is quick, 0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:14.400 everything is underneath, everything is the open receivers. Now I 0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:17.240 do I do grant you the inside some of the 0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:20.600 inside throws, the ends, those kinds of routes where there 0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:23.480 were some high balls behind and stuff. But I thought 0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:26.960 overall that was it. So you know, I could see 0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:29.160 though I could see him being the pick. I think that, 0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:30.960 you know, I think you're absolutely in a minute and 0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:32.400 a half to go on the clock, and they got 0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:35.800 the pick in Twitter Tennessee Titan. Twitter seems to be 0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:40.200 indicating that it will be Marcus Mariota to Tennessee. I got. 0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:43.440 I mean there are teams I mentioned the Cleveland Browns 0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:47.320 they want Mariota, but they are balking at giving up 0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:51.080 more than twelve and nineteen to get him. So could 0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:54.480 we see something after this? We're seeing handshakes hands around. 0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:58.440 You get that's gonna be the quarterback? Right? I think so? No, absolutely, 0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:01.600 have you ever seen them drafted a defensive tackle instead 0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:03.760 of a quarterback? Well, literal Williams. I would, I would 0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:06.440 high five Linard Williams. I'd give it, you know, Leary Williams. 0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:08.680 I'm all I think of whoever their picket, there's gonna 0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:11.840 be handshakes all around. But yeah, that's true, nobody. Yeah, 0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:14.680 I'm I'm still waiting for the press conference after the 0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:16.360 first round where one team is like, we got the 0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:18.760 wrong guy. So if if Mariota is the pick, though, 0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:22.240 everybody you know down my pick right here. I feel 0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:25.200 better about Jameis Winston than Marcus Mariota. That's just me. 0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:27.240 I mean, if that's what you're asking. See, I feel 0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:29.239 really not great about either one of them. I mean 0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:31.800 to I mean totally, I don't feel great. I don't 0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:33.560 feel like and I'm not trying to sit there and 0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:38.120 compare hint, these guys to Andrew Luck No, no, and 0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:40.520 and And that's what scares me because I feel like 0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:43.280 I've been talking all along about Bryce Petty, you know, 0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:45.880 and I'm trying to think, okay, but see there's no 0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:49.040 second or or its gonna be third quarterback that you 0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:50.800 could say, Okay, I'll wait to the top of the 0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:54.000 second round and grab that guy, unless you really do 0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:56.240 like Betty. If you like Bryce Petty and you're sitting 0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:58.560 Tennessee and you're sitting there at thirty three, then you 0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:01.400 could go a different direction in right and take Petty 0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:05.680 at that point because that maybe trade into See this 0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:07.840 is where it hits you in the guns because who 0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:10.080 came over the next squ the next quarterbacks not so 0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:13.280 much gonna be compared to Winston. It's probably gonna be Mariota. 0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:16.440 You know, if you look at bus factors, who has 0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:19.960 the probably the biggest chance for bus bus factors, I 0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:22.600 think it would probably be. Uh, do you see do 0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:24.560 you see Pro Bowls and either one of these two 0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:30.960 quarterbacks futures Winston maybe Mariota not really Yeah, yeah, I 0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:33.400 don't see it. I don't either. I just can't believe 0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:35.520 I can see like I and I know they're they're 0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:37.839 different players. They're very different players. I get that. But 0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:41.160 I am reminded a lot of Cam Newton with Winston, 0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:43.120 with how much he was screwed. Jam Newton is not 0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:45.799 a bad player. He's a good player. He's I mean, 0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:47.960 he's taken the Panthers to the playoffs two years. He's 0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:51.919 gonna get an extension. I think I think Winston could 0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:55.880 be Newton. Where the second pick in the twenty fifteen 0:34:56.040 --> 0:35:05.920 NFL drafts, the Tennessee Titans select Marcus Mariotto. Mariotte seven months. 0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:11.400 There's only two dudes. It's two quarterbacks. Roger Lord So, 0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:15.360 two quarterbacks off the board. First time since twenty twelve 0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:18.480 we had quarterbacks go one two. Sixth time in history 0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:21.200 we've had quarterbacks go one two. See, this is what 0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:24.000 first time since luck and RG three? Correct, this is 0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:27.560 what kind of this just shows you though, what happens. 0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:31.160 And you said it earlier. There's a reason why Tampa 0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:35.480 in Tennessee are picking here right now, and and and 0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:37.760 and then all of a sudden and more so though 0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:41.759 in more so though in Tennessee, you got a head 0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:45.400 coach that's not exactly sitting very pretty there or a 0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:48.879 general managers. I mean, if you've tied your you're you're 0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:53.680 you've tied your your maybe your fate to this kid. 0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:55.879 But what choice do you have, you know, Leonard Leonard 0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:58.680 William you could have took that trade. They kind of 0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:00.439 took that trade. But you have taken in that trade. 0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:02.640 But I mean, you're again, it was it was Philadelphia. 0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:05.000 If you feel good, if you feel good about if 0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:09.319 you feel good about Zach Mettenberg, I mean that's you're 0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:11.520 talking about a lot of guys who aren't under contract, 0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:14.800 like the fact like Cox and Bradford aren't gonna fox Bradford. 0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:18.160 But could those guys help your overall team. I mean, 0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:20.279 I'm not feeling a lot better about Sam Bradford. And 0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:23.080 tell you the church the thing with Sam Bradford, keep it, 0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:27.400 keep Sam Bradford out, But he's foxing Kendricks and knows well. 0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:29.360 Cox is a one year guy that's a thing. You 0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:33.799 gotta resign. Tools done playing basically, and the picks were 0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:37.319 Philadelphia the twentieth pick in the first round, first round 0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:40.160 next year, and the fifty second pick. I actually, I 0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:41.799 take that back. I guess Cox would be a two 0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:44.440 year guy if they picked up his option last week. Okay, 0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:46.759 so you got two years from Fletcher. Let's remember he's 0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:51.960 a Tennessee Titan four. Now look, Jacksonville Jaguars, this has 0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:54.920 gotta be Dante Fowler. We've talked. Don't rule out of 0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:58.200 Cooper here. I'm with you. Fowler makes the most sense. 0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:01.600 In my opinion, I'm hitching my wagon to the bruglermobile 0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:05.839 over here. Jacksonville picked all those wide receivers last year. Also, 0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:08.440 you gotta go they got Mark eas Lee last year. 0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:11.440 That's true, Alan Robinson and Hearns. That's an undrafted free 0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:15.360 agency they hit on defensive. Head coach Jacksonville knew exactly 0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:18.600 the direction they were going, in my opinion, but they 0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:21.160 when they sat there said, okay, fine, you guys talk 0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:25.080 about those quarterbacks. I think that we saw Jacksonville play 0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:28.480 last year. Jerry Sullivan I was not bad. The receivers 0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:30.720 are not bad. Jackson He's got a lot of young guys. 0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:34.120 I think they need defensive help here. Yeah. Hey, and 0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:36.719 Fowler was my was my was my third guy on 0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:40.400 the board. Architect, the architect of that Seattle defense is 0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:42.520 the guy making this picks. And of course they in 0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:45.080 free agency, they signed Julius Thomas, so they got their 0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:47.600 big tight end. That Actually, all right, I'm off the 0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:50.160 Cooper train now, I didn't. I forgot about Julius Thomas. 0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:52.440 Fowler makes a lot of sense. Justus Bradley wants his 0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:56.960 pass rusher last year, Marks Lee, that's another that's another program. 0:37:57.000 --> 0:37:59.800 That's let's keep in mind one foot in the parking 0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:03.600 lot at this time last year. Who who thought it 0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:05.680 was gonna be playing Bortles? You know, yeah I did 0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:08.080 because that was my number one quarterback. But did you 0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:10.399 think they played it? You think Jacksonville is gonna take him? Yes, 0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:14.080 jackson Well, I did. For the we did for the 0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:18.360 media masses out there. It was very surprising because Jacksonville 0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:21.080 played it so close to the vest. Absolutely, I wasn't surprised. 0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:24.239 The Manzell hype and that stuff. I wasn't surprised Bortles 0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:26.840 went high. I was surprised Jacksonville went that direction because 0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:31.239 they kept that so secreted. Well, that's David Calwell down there. 0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:36.360 Believe that's what that's secretive. Polling Disciple Polling was always 0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:38.359 one of those guys, and it was easy for them 0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:41.120 to meet with Bordles and work him out with anybody 0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:43.520 knowing it because he's at Central Florida there in Jacksonville. 0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:45.799 That's kind of refreshing that an NFL team in this 0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:47.880 day and age can still kind of keep their cards 0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:50.200 close to the vest because there's so many sources, well, 0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:52.160 not a lot of people covering the team, and a 0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:54.520 small market I've worked I've worked at when they used 0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:57.279 to have two guys Pete Priscoe and John Osher with 0:38:57.360 --> 0:38:59.680 only two guys that met, theres a few more now 0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:02.440 it might be a few more and Jacksonville and free agency. 0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:06.080 The most notable pickup was Jared Addrick defensive end. But 0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:08.439 Dante Fowler has been saying for weeks that he thinks 0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:13.200 he's going to Jacksonville. Future makes Leonard Williams not as 0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:14.920 much of a need out there. And I know we 0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:16.960 only talk about picking this early. It's not about in need, 0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:20.320 about talent. Dante Fowler's one heck of a talent. Speaking 0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:23.440 of Cowboy free agents, Jeremy Parnell will be lining up 0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:25.960 at tackle for them this year. Exactly right, that's right. 0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:27.239 I don't know if he'll be on the right side 0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:31.279 or the left side. I was right. They did draft joke, 0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:33.520 they did. You're right, yeah, Brian, you know I like 0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:36.439 my stats. I know you do. Okay, d you watch 0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:39.400 the tape too? Oh, no, of course. But Jamis Winston. 0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:43.960 He is only the second redshirt sophomore quarterback to be 0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:49.160 drafted top twenty. Ever, the first was not Johnny Manzil 0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:52.840 because he went like twenty two or exactly. The first 0:39:53.360 --> 0:40:00.080 was about fifteen years ago, now, kid out of Virginia Tech. Oh, 0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:02.719 Michael Vick, Michael Vick. That's right. He was the first 0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:05.240 retrod sophomore quarterback to be drafted number one overall. Jameis 0:40:05.239 --> 0:40:09.880 Winson the second. Wow, they've they're getting out of commercial 0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:13.080 break on NFL network, and so that means the commissioner 0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:15.120 will make his way to the podium. Very sick. Yeah, 0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:18.840 we saw it again. We saw Jacksonville live. They just 0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:21.960 don't have enough. They didn't have any dynamic. The pass wrong, 0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:25.520 I mean, that's what you know. The game started well 0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:28.480 for him, and then what happened? It just did They 0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:31.359 couldn't they couldn't generate. That's the classic. It's like name 0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:35.399 five Jacksonville Jaguars and you're like, I don't know. By 0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:38.600 the way, you can tweet us at the draft show 0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:41.520 if you have any questions, and we're monitoring that and 0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:45.200 we'll answer your tweeted to questions as well as we 0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:48.200 uh mosey along here. You got Bill Jones, Brian brought us, 0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:51.720 Dane Bruegler, David Hellman, We'll have some others are working 0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:53.640 it as well as we take potty breaks as we 0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:57.360 go along the way here. But it's a marathon, it is. 0:40:57.520 --> 0:40:59.920 It's not a sprint. It's a marathon. We got Jacksonville 0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:03.600 number three, followed by Oakland and Washington, and again it's 0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:07.200 the two quarterbacks have gone pretty much as expected, Winston 0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:10.280 and Mariota. I'm really in tu if we're assuming foulers 0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:12.720 the pick here. I'm really intrigued by what happens after 0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:16.960 because I mean, Leonard Leonard Williams best player in the draft, 0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:20.000 right that? Yeah? I think, well on your board is 0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:22.239 he he's number one? Right? You get to pair the 0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:25.000 best player in this draft with Khalil Mack. I just 0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:27.680 think that sounds dynamite for the Oakland Raiders. And I'm 0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:30.760 terrified for Raiders fans, not that I have any stake, 0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:33.880 but they deserve to have a good team after however 0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:37.520 many years it's been. I just think that's the most 0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:40.000 Raiders thing I've ever heard, to go get a flat 0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:42.920 like there's value at help but helped, but helped the 0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:46.000 quarterback and if the computer comes, you can help the quarterback. 0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:49.960 In the second round, with the third pick in the 0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:57.360 twenty fifteen NFL Draft, the Jacksonville Jaguards select Dante Fowler Junior. 0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:03.400 There he goes, that's Dante Holar junior. Three for three 0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:05.239 in the Monk Draft. I feel good. There you go, 0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:10.560 perfect score for Dane Brugler in his draft. Hey, there's 0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:13.320 not some people that now now comes. Now comes the 0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:16.200 real and by the way, Oakland is now on the clock. Yeah, 0:42:16.239 --> 0:42:18.359 and Oakland again, we've talked about a couple different things. 0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:20.640 And for your folks that are I see some folks 0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:23.640 on h that are tweeting at the draft show. We 0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:27.120 do not control the war room cam. That what you 0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:30.080 see is the space when I actually don't see you 0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:33.120 see us when they are when they got it the 0:42:33.120 --> 0:42:37.560 camera cook. Yeah, and this is when they would let 0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:39.840 us look, you know, like why let me tell you 0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:43.080 this from my experience, there might be some more discussions 0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:46.160 going on there making sure going through us. So they're 0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:48.880 afraid about lip readers, Well they could very well be. 0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:51.800 I mean, if we do our shows talking cowboys, and 0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:53.879 I always put my hand because folks are really good, 0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:56.920 let me ask you this. Yeah, is there someone here 0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:59.959 at Valley Ranch who's monitoring all of the other nfl 0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:02.560 FELL websites to see if they can get any tips 0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:05.120 from anybody anywhere. Well, I'll tell you that when I 0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:07.319 was in pro personnel, I mean that was what I 0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:10.640 was trying to my best to have as much information. 0:43:10.680 --> 0:43:14.520 We didn't have the access to Twitter and Internet. I 0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:17.480 mean there were certain guys that you followed beat writers 0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:20.000 that you might have liked insight and give you a 0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:22.440 little insight. But I believe what's going on in the 0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:24.319 war room right now is like I said, with it 0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:28.120 being covered and we'll get eating. Well they could they again, 0:43:28.200 --> 0:43:30.280 it could be just as it could be just talking 0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:32.680 about the catering right out there, how they're going to 0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:36.520 handle handle this when it gets down, is everybody once 0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:40.200 again comfortable with whatever player? You know, it's in the direction. 0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:42.400 Maybe they're running through a couple of last minute things 0:43:42.719 --> 0:43:44.839 and then we'll go right to that, all right. Uh. 0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:48.760 And if the Cowboys wanted to trade up, how how 0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:50.960 far do you think they could go? I mean, if 0:43:51.000 --> 0:43:54.680 they wanted to Todd Gurley or something. How much ammunition 0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:56.799 do they have to go up? How far? It's an 0:43:56.800 --> 0:43:59.800 interesting question. I mean, you think about the needs of 0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:03.279 this team, has uh, the picks they have available to him, 0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:05.719 and how far you have to go? I mean, you know, 0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:08.920 the steam on Todd Gurley has just been gathering. And 0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:11.000 not mean I'm using that as a hypothetical, but he 0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:14.640 has climbed from first round to top twenty to top fifteen. 0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:18.560 I saw him as high as twelve earlier this afternoon. Uh. 0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:21.120 And you get into this scenario where I mean, you're 0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:26.000 either talking about giving away future picks or more excuse me, mouthful, 0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:28.120 mortgaging this entire draft to get up there. I mean, 0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:31.800 let's say San Diego and Miami are the first plausible 0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:33.640 options to take a running back and to make that 0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:35.879 high of a jump, you're talking about giving away second 0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:38.200 rounders third. I mean, you could be if it's a 0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:40.080 running if it's a running back, you're probably gonna have 0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:41.840 to get ahead of San Diego. You have to go 0:44:41.840 --> 0:44:44.200 to Houston. It's how about Miami though, that's and I 0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:50.239 mean they are linked to Gurley, but they can't go 0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:52.319 that high. And in my opinion, I mean, if they 0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:56.239 package their first and second round pick, they could possibly 0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:59.560 get to sixteen. If Houston was a willing soul. It's 0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:03.359 theory ically possible. But you get into should you do that? 0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:05.640 And I think the answer a lot of the last 0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:10.600 three years, they've basically they've traded up significantly, giving up 0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:13.880 a top one hundred pick. The Clayborne deal had traded 0:45:13.920 --> 0:45:16.360 a second, and then last year trading a third to 0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:18.280 move up in the second round. We've been seeing trade 0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:21.360 rumors earlier today that the Cowboys might want to acquire 0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:25.040 Michael Brockers from Saint Louis. But how about that though 0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:28.760 we were in the parking lot. Yeah no, And granted 0:45:28.800 --> 0:45:32.080 the Cowboys dismissed it completely, but it's just funny to 0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:34.200 me that they could have had Michael Brockers if they 0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:36.960 hadn't been jumping around in the first place, So I'm 0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:40.760 against trading up unless it's a very favorable deal. Quickly 0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:43.960 go around Williams or Cooper is for this pick for 0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:46.560 the Raiders. I go Cooper and the pick is in, Okay, 0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:48.600 I'm going Cooper, and then I think I think it 0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:50.879 should be well. And the other thing Kevin White. There's 0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:53.799 there's a lot of so called experts out there who 0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:57.279 have Kevin White above Maury Cooper. I just think that 0:45:57.320 --> 0:45:59.800 if you it's Cooper, he's such such a smooth player, 0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:03.960 made the way he the trade offen. Yeah, I really 0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:06.640 really like him a lot. We talked about helping out 0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:09.200 that quarterback. You have to and you do. You do it. 0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:11.799 The thing is, it's it's tough because Leonard Williams to 0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:13.480 me is the best player in this draft. I agree 0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:16.520 with you there, but but you have to help out that. 0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:19.560 You have to help out your quarterback. And I think 0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:21.960 Maori Cooper is I hate using the word safe when 0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:23.680 it comes to the NFL Draft. He is one of 0:46:23.680 --> 0:46:25.600 the safer picks this year. I think you know what 0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:28.480 you're getting. You pair him with Michael Crabtree, who the 0:46:28.640 --> 0:46:31.319 Raiders signed all of a sudden. Derek Carr has some 0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:33.160 tools to work with. What if I told you you 0:46:33.200 --> 0:46:37.200 could have Leonard Williams anchoring your defense and go get 0:46:37.280 --> 0:46:39.920 like DGB at the beginning of the second round, that 0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:43.560 do anything for you. I'm not big on DGB. I 0:46:43.680 --> 0:46:46.200 know he's scary, but there are other I mean, if 0:46:46.200 --> 0:46:48.759 he's not your cup of tea, there are other wide receivers. 0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:51.399 I think. I think recent drafts have proven that there's 0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:57.719 value to be had there and wide receiver. I mean, 0:46:57.760 --> 0:46:59.200 I can't argue with it. Yeah, I mean, you spend 0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:01.040 a high pick on a back, you should get him 0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:03.719 some help. But I don't know. I haven't been in 0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:06.440 love Dave got We we saw that team live. It 0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:09.120 didn't know two years ago. We didn't know last year 0:47:09.239 --> 0:47:12.040 the camp. Yeah, trading kid, it kind of kicked the 0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:15.480 Cowboys butts. But but but no weapons. So really at 0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:22.160 the receiver spot, I mean, yeah, Derek, you're right Carr. 0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:25.600 I thought Derek Carr played his butt off, and I 0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:27.920 think you have to help him. I think you have 0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:30.239 to find a way to try and help him. This 0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:32.319 could be a little bit of the LSU Homer in me, 0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:34.880 but I just have never I'm not in love with 0:47:34.920 --> 0:47:38.120 Amari Cooper that's I mean, I don't think he you 0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:40.319 talk about do you see him making Pro Bowls? And 0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:43.839 you know, I don't see him being a Megatron type guy. 0:47:43.920 --> 0:47:45.560 And that's the type that's what you're looking for when 0:47:45.600 --> 0:47:47.640 you draft the receiver this high. John Gruden made an 0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:51.800 interesting comparison and he called him Tim Brown. Reminded him, 0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:54.640 that's a nice comparison. That was the best comparison I 0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:57.200 have heard yet. He's a faster Tim Brown, though Tim 0:47:57.239 --> 0:47:59.880 Brown was never a guy that could really haul him. 0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:02.600 I mean, yeah, he made as far as that type 0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:04.920 of speed. So what we were thinking we thinking receiver 0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:07.319 here were thinking offense. I'm going Cooper, where is my 0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:13.160 best player? I can understand. Fifteen NFL Draft, The Oakland 0:48:13.200 --> 0:48:19.480 Raiders select Amari Cooper. There you go, yeah, wide receiver Alabama. 0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:22.640 So so far this draft is going according to form 0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:26.319 as the hated Washington Redskins are now on the clock 0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:28.360 the number five pick. And if you're the Redskins that 0:48:28.480 --> 0:48:30.800 picked in a while, have they this? Yeah? And this 0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:32.840 couldn't have worked out better for them to get that. 0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:36.280 Williams You go, I mean, well what about an offensive 0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:40.120 lineman here? Though? Where does where? I mean where do 0:48:40.440 --> 0:48:42.719 where do you play Williams? If you're the Redskins three 0:48:42.719 --> 0:48:45.640 to four, he's your five technique. I mean, he's your Wow. 0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:47.720 Do you think that's the kind of a waste playing 0:48:47.800 --> 0:48:53.440 him as at? Yeah? But does J. J. Watts more 0:48:53.440 --> 0:48:57.560 of a linear kind of a guy though. Williams, he 0:48:57.600 --> 0:48:59.439 seems like he's meant to be in a four three 0:48:59.440 --> 0:49:02.480 to me, Yeah, I'd see him like playing that three 0:49:02.960 --> 0:49:06.320 on the shoulder up the field coast. Is it plausible 0:49:06.360 --> 0:49:08.759 to think Washington passes two and your number one is 0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:10.520 all of a sudden sitting there at six. I think 0:49:10.520 --> 0:49:12.440 we have to look at what do we talked about all? All? 0:49:12.440 --> 0:49:16.000 Along with Washington? They want to trade back. Yeah, the 0:49:16.040 --> 0:49:18.400 best players on the board right now, if Mom draft, 0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:21.000 I'm the bear down Chicago Bar. I'm thinking about getting 0:49:21.040 --> 0:49:23.880 up there right That phone is buzzing right now. Yeah, 0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:26.120 if you look at if you look at Redskins needs 0:49:26.480 --> 0:49:33.319 outside linebacker, safety, potentially a wide receiver or quarterback was 0:49:33.360 --> 0:49:36.439 also something that we had kind of worked on. Looking 0:49:36.480 --> 0:49:40.560 again at offensive lineman as well. You know, I don't 0:49:40.560 --> 0:49:42.879 know you talk about the guys they brought in. Vic 0:49:42.960 --> 0:49:46.919 Beasley is a guy they brought in. Uh, let's see 0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:52.000 who else was another guy? Anybody of substance and Litterard 0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:54.520 Williams Terd Williams was one of their visits. This is 0:49:54.640 --> 0:49:58.480 redk this is the Redskins. So I mean, if he's 0:49:58.520 --> 0:50:00.359 that good, you find something to do it. I just 0:50:00.400 --> 0:50:03.120 think that they they're offensive line. I think they have to, 0:50:03.520 --> 0:50:05.120 you know. And this is where I think, this is 0:50:05.120 --> 0:50:07.680 where shuff I feel good about taking SUREF five. I 0:50:08.360 --> 0:50:11.160 think that you don't like Chriff No, no, I like him. 0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:15.160 I like it. I'm fine. I'm fine with him. I'm 0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:18.399 fine with him as going to the reds I think 0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:20.200 he's a guard. I don't think he's a tack tic 0:50:20.280 --> 0:50:23.040 a guard fifth overall, and he's a right tackle. He well, 0:50:23.040 --> 0:50:26.200 he plays he plays left tackle in the NFL. Is 0:50:26.239 --> 0:50:29.040 he a right tackle? Dane, I wouldn't play it right. 0:50:29.040 --> 0:50:31.359 I wouldn't play the tackles his arm. He's a guard. 0:50:31.840 --> 0:50:33.680 But I'm not sold on this at all. Based on 0:50:33.719 --> 0:50:36.160 what you're saying, they might. It'll be interesting to see 0:50:36.160 --> 0:50:38.479 what they list him at they might list him. That'll 0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:40.360 give you a little bit of a clue if they 0:50:40.440 --> 0:50:43.480 in fact draft him. But I I wouldn't be surprised 0:50:43.480 --> 0:50:46.120 they went offensive line here. I really really wouldn't. I 0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:49.160 agree with you. A sheriff to that was a mess 0:50:49.239 --> 0:50:52.200 was in my mock draft, but Leonard Williams was not available, 0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:55.680 and so I think that it's hard to pass on 0:50:55.840 --> 0:50:58.200 Leonard Williams here. It's just it's tough to do and 0:50:58.280 --> 0:51:00.440 you're picking top five. And what the Redskins have done 0:51:00.440 --> 0:51:04.399 in free agency, They've signed several defensive lineman Ricky Jean 0:51:04.440 --> 0:51:09.000 Franz Swi from Indianapolis, Terry to Denver, Stephen Pia from Chicago. 0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:11.560 There you go. See. I just think, you know, when 0:51:11.560 --> 0:51:14.840 you talk about the Redskins and you look their offensive line, 0:51:14.960 --> 0:51:16.600 we saw that at the end of the year. Do 0:51:16.640 --> 0:51:19.480 you think he's like a Zach Martin type beat He's not, 0:51:19.600 --> 0:51:22.319 so you can take five overall. He's not. But that's 0:51:22.360 --> 0:51:24.879 what you just took Marcus Mariota too. Don't you take 0:51:24.920 --> 0:51:28.240 best player available? Maybe he's the best player on their board. 0:51:28.520 --> 0:51:30.360 I bet he's not. I bet this is gonna be 0:51:30.400 --> 0:51:32.920 Leonard Williams and you figure it out. Yeah, I just 0:51:33.040 --> 0:51:36.000 I just don't see. I mean, I'm watching that team 0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:39.880 and I'm looking at those offensive linemen, and I'm Corey 0:51:39.920 --> 0:51:43.319 Lichtensteiger at center. Uh oh, their line is not good. 0:51:43.360 --> 0:51:44.920 I'm not trying to argue that it is. Yeah, I 0:51:45.000 --> 0:51:49.320 mean Chester right guard. Um. The Virginia kid they drafted 0:51:49.400 --> 0:51:53.920 last year was yep, um, Moses Moses. Thank you? Yeah, 0:51:53.640 --> 0:51:55.759 who do they have done as right tackle for them? 0:51:55.960 --> 0:51:58.080 But right tackle? Art you're looking at I'm looking at 0:51:58.160 --> 0:52:03.600 right Yeah it's Moses, Okay. More and then remember Tom Compton? Yeah, Tom, 0:52:03.680 --> 0:52:06.200 remember the Columbia. Yeah, they were playing. They were playing 0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:08.120 with a bunch of just bad guys to picks in 0:52:08.239 --> 0:52:11.040 right now? Is for the Redskins. I just very interesting. 0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:14.640 Just as much as I love and he was a visit, 0:52:14.800 --> 0:52:18.319 as much as I love Williams Man, I just that 0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:21.279 offensive line was bad. You know you know something. No, 0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:23.880 I'm just I'm looking at too. I'm looking at their 0:52:23.920 --> 0:52:26.759 offensive line. Dave. Now, you're you're right. Nothing you are 0:52:26.800 --> 0:52:29.719 saying is wrong. It's my job to a guy. It's 0:52:29.719 --> 0:52:32.279 just the Leonard. It's just what do you always say, 0:52:32.320 --> 0:52:34.759 don't you take? Don't you want best player available? Over 0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:37.560 going for a need just because he needed he visited. 0:52:37.680 --> 0:52:40.200 But they might not think that way. They might think 0:52:40.239 --> 0:52:43.359 about how they had what is their biggest investment? Who 0:52:43.440 --> 0:52:47.479 is their biggest investment? Robert R. G three better find 0:52:47.520 --> 0:52:50.279 a way to keep his butt upright. Yeah, you're not wrong. 0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:53.000 Jordan Harper tweets in get ready for the runner to 0:52:53.040 --> 0:52:56.040 go at six? Girlie to the jet. Now, that would 0:52:56.080 --> 0:52:59.160 be stunning, That would be stunning, would be stunning. I 0:52:59.200 --> 0:53:02.160 just I again, seeing the Redskins played twice a year, 0:53:02.800 --> 0:53:05.960 it just it makes sense to me. Does it makes sense? No, 0:53:06.239 --> 0:53:09.040 you're absolutely it makes sense. It also tells you why 0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:10.759 they were trying to trade out of this spot. But 0:53:10.800 --> 0:53:13.279 they are picking right now. Twitter. Twitter has tipped it, 0:53:13.280 --> 0:53:16.200 and it is schurf not to ruin the sustain draft. 0:53:17.120 --> 0:53:23.320 The Washington Redskins select Brandon Schriff tackle whatever you say, 0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:25.440 hats I had it in my mos. I'm okay. Clearly 0:53:25.680 --> 0:53:28.759 the Redskins were tuned into Dallas Cowboys dot com and 0:53:28.960 --> 0:53:34.120 he did the advice of Briants Bran. Let me tell 0:53:34.120 --> 0:53:36.960 you what though, I just told you the biggest investment 0:53:37.040 --> 0:53:40.879 they had was that quarterback. They're also they're only tied 0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:43.840 to him for two more seasons. They I mean, you 0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:45.319 don't know if he's your line, tell me what they 0:53:45.360 --> 0:53:47.040 listed him as. If you could up there they're gonna 0:53:47.080 --> 0:53:50.480 show maybe we can pull it up on the internet. Yeah, 0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:51.680 I wonder if they're going to listen to as a 0:53:51.760 --> 0:53:54.480 tackle or a guard. I have he's listed as a tackle. 0:53:54.520 --> 0:53:56.839 It doesn't matter when NFL network says, yeah I think 0:53:58.160 --> 0:54:00.160 or they might list him as a sprinter and you 0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:03.279 have a seven o seven cone drill or something ridiculous 0:54:03.320 --> 0:54:06.560 like that as one of the better ones. Can we 0:54:06.719 --> 0:54:09.080 can we in the Cowboys organization? Can we take this 0:54:09.120 --> 0:54:11.480 as an opportunity to pat us on the back? Is this? 0:54:12.320 --> 0:54:15.319 Is this an example of NFL teams playing copycat, trying 0:54:15.320 --> 0:54:17.919 to go get a dominant guard like Zach Martin. Well, 0:54:18.160 --> 0:54:20.480 I think that Tom kaugh would set it after one 0:54:20.480 --> 0:54:23.239 of they did games, he said, hey, we need to 0:54:23.280 --> 0:54:26.040 be more like the Dallas cowp Yeah, we need to 0:54:26.080 --> 0:54:29.240 find a way to run the football, protect a football 0:54:29.440 --> 0:54:33.239 and be like that Zach Martin. That's what and that's 0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:36.000 my point. Yeah, what he did last year. Who knows 0:54:36.040 --> 0:54:38.960 if they might play him right tackle. It's possible. Yeah, definitely, 0:54:39.000 --> 0:54:40.960 it's possible they might play me tackle. Take a look 0:54:41.000 --> 0:54:42.840 at him at many camp and see what he and 0:54:42.920 --> 0:54:46.000 he played left tackle the last three years, did pay 0:54:46.200 --> 0:54:48.920 three starts as a left guard his first year at IOWA. 0:54:49.040 --> 0:54:51.279 All I've heard all spring is that Leonard Williams is 0:54:51.320 --> 0:54:53.239 the truth. I just can't believe it. Of course, Zach 0:54:53.320 --> 0:54:55.400 Martin played left tackle at Notre Dame. If you're the 0:54:55.480 --> 0:54:59.200 Chicago Bears, even though they drafted two defensive tackles last year, 0:54:59.320 --> 0:55:00.879 I would be trying and get the hell up there 0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:03.200 and get that guy. All right, So you think Todd 0:55:03.200 --> 0:55:07.400 Bowles is happy New York on the clock right now? 0:55:07.680 --> 0:55:12.480 Todd Bowles, former Cowboys assistant coach. That's three four defense 0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:15.319 though too again right, and they don't you look at 0:55:15.320 --> 0:55:19.319 their needs? Uh? Is Leonard Williams a no brainer here? 0:55:19.440 --> 0:55:21.160 Or could they go in a different direction? And you 0:55:21.160 --> 0:55:23.759 know what I mean? Atlanta moved to three four, So 0:55:23.840 --> 0:55:25.600 now you're talking about we heard they were trying to 0:55:25.640 --> 0:55:29.360 trade Wilkerson earlier today. Defensive end, they have Wilkerson and 0:55:29.360 --> 0:55:32.399 Sheldon richardson right now? Is their ends. Those are two 0:55:33.000 --> 0:55:36.080 above average starters in the league. But so it doesn't 0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:39.000 sound like a team that needs Leonard Williams. But Muhammad 0:55:39.000 --> 0:55:41.840 Wilkerson has been rumored as being on the trade bull absolutely, 0:55:41.840 --> 0:55:45.319 So if Leonard Williams is the pick here, I think 0:55:45.360 --> 0:55:47.400 there's a good shot we see Wilkerson delt at some 0:55:47.400 --> 0:55:51.319 point this weekend. Yeah, Alfred Morris tweets I am a 0:55:51.360 --> 0:55:54.880 happy camper, which should be absolutely And with Sheriff, we 0:55:55.120 --> 0:55:57.480 talk about the threshold for arm length being probably about 0:55:57.480 --> 0:56:00.440 thirty three in arms to play tackle. He had almost 0:56:00.520 --> 0:56:03.080 thirty three and a half, so he can play out there, 0:56:03.200 --> 0:56:04.920 but I don't think you feel comfortable about it. He's 0:56:04.920 --> 0:56:07.560 a much better guard. You want him inside less space 0:56:07.640 --> 0:56:10.200 to cover, and you want him playing to his strength, 0:56:10.239 --> 0:56:11.920 and that's as a run blocker, a guy that can 0:56:11.920 --> 0:56:15.279 get to the second level, eliminate bodies and just be 0:56:16.480 --> 0:56:19.000 a bad guy beat up guys. Really good point that 0:56:19.080 --> 0:56:21.560 I kind of forgot about there, and the excitement of 0:56:21.600 --> 0:56:24.440 the pick is who's the offensive line coach with the 0:56:24.520 --> 0:56:29.160 rest Callahan. Yeah, so that's interesting. Interesting if you look 0:56:29.160 --> 0:56:32.320 at the Jets, the needs or talk about as the quarterback, 0:56:32.400 --> 0:56:36.880 the outside linebacker rusher too early for Bud Duprie or 0:56:36.920 --> 0:56:39.799 maybe Vic Beasley or Vic Beasley, I think bud dupri 0:56:40.520 --> 0:56:43.319 is uh definitely in the mix here. Running back would 0:56:43.320 --> 0:56:46.640 be another one as well, so we've talked about that 0:56:46.840 --> 0:56:51.719 is what is the potential Todd Gurley at six, any 0:56:51.800 --> 0:56:54.320 thoughts on that coming off at ACL who do the 0:56:54.560 --> 0:56:57.680 Jets have Ivory? And they have do they still have Ivory? 0:56:58.719 --> 0:57:00.399 Let's see, I just looked at the job, so let's 0:57:00.440 --> 0:57:04.320 look at the Jets. Uh looks like to me running 0:57:04.360 --> 0:57:10.959 backs Ivory and Ridley Powell would be another one too. 0:57:11.120 --> 0:57:13.400 I have bud Dupris to the Jets here in my 0:57:13.400 --> 0:57:16.080 mock draft. But again Leonard Williams was not available. So 0:57:17.040 --> 0:57:20.160 they visited Vic Beasley, that was one bud Dupre and 0:57:20.320 --> 0:57:24.000 visited them as well. So two guys, uh as, let's 0:57:24.040 --> 0:57:28.160 see if they did anything with the runner at all 0:57:28.560 --> 0:57:31.080 with Grey. They did not visit Gurley. You go back 0:57:31.080 --> 0:57:33.960 to Mike mccagnan, the first year general manager. You look 0:57:34.000 --> 0:57:36.560 back to from Houston, and look what they did to Houston. 0:57:37.000 --> 0:57:39.960 They invested in pass rushers, they invested in I mean, 0:57:40.400 --> 0:57:42.480 they could go in any direction here because you look 0:57:42.520 --> 0:57:45.840 at Leonard Williams, you look at a bud Dupre, even 0:57:45.840 --> 0:57:49.160 a Kevin White as a possibility. In Houston, they drafted 0:57:49.400 --> 0:57:52.640 you know, DeAndre Hopkins in the first round. Um, you 0:57:52.680 --> 0:57:55.560 know mccagnan was there when they drafted Andre Johnson, so 0:57:56.280 --> 0:57:58.800 I can't rule out wide receiver here. Leonard Williams, bud dupre. 0:57:58.920 --> 0:58:00.720 I think that's that's where we're looking and what they've 0:58:00.720 --> 0:58:03.200 done with their defense and free agency. Of course they 0:58:03.400 --> 0:58:06.320 have signed Durrell Rivas as well as Antonio Cromarty from 0:58:06.360 --> 0:58:08.600 the Cardinals. They've taken a lot of time here. It 0:58:08.720 --> 0:58:11.000 might be trying to field some calls. You know, they're 0:58:11.000 --> 0:58:13.240 they're pretty deep into the clock, right, There's got to 0:58:13.320 --> 0:58:15.400 be a pretty good a lot of interest in Leonard 0:58:15.400 --> 0:58:18.920 Williams absolutely. I mean, I think Mike mcagnet is trying 0:58:18.960 --> 0:58:22.640 to see if in fact something can happen. Let's see, uh, 0:58:23.040 --> 0:58:25.520 and then it gets there. We're looking live into the 0:58:25.640 --> 0:58:28.880 Jets war room, which is bad for you guys here. 0:58:28.920 --> 0:58:31.160 When you get when you get down to sixty seconds, 0:58:31.240 --> 0:58:34.240 that means you're talking to people, right, you're trying. You're trying, 0:58:34.280 --> 0:58:36.640 you're trying to shop the pick, and then it gets 0:58:36.640 --> 0:58:40.720 down in it. If you don't have the satisfactory trade potential, 0:58:41.200 --> 0:58:43.160 then the GM will say hand the card in and 0:58:43.200 --> 0:58:45.440 then you go, is there a cut off? I mean, 0:58:46.080 --> 0:58:48.000 what second mark do you have to be like, hey, 0:58:48.080 --> 0:58:50.480 put the phone down. I think we we one time 0:58:50.560 --> 0:58:54.760 got yelled at by the league for doing a trade, 0:58:54.760 --> 0:58:58.200 the Roy Williams trade, the Roy Williams the safety trade. 0:58:58.240 --> 0:59:01.200 We got a little close with Kansas City and Minnesota. 0:59:01.480 --> 0:59:04.840 That's one of those things that Chris Hall said, hey, 0:59:04.880 --> 0:59:07.120 did he may turn in that trade next to you know, 0:59:07.200 --> 0:59:10.520 Stephen Jones is diving on the table, hitting the hitting 0:59:10.560 --> 0:59:14.000 the speaker phone there on the table to get the trade. 0:59:14.000 --> 0:59:17.480 And then the league callback said, don't ever do that again. 0:59:17.920 --> 0:59:22.960 So was it? That was it? That? It was pretty? 0:59:23.000 --> 0:59:26.760 It was pretty Yeah, it was pretty conversation. We've got 0:59:27.080 --> 0:59:30.720 the Jets followed by Chicago, Atlanta and the New York 0:59:30.800 --> 0:59:34.120 Football Giants are picking at number nine, Jets at number six. Okay, 0:59:34.120 --> 0:59:36.760 where would you play Leonard Williams again? If you uh, 0:59:37.040 --> 0:59:39.240 if if in fact that he went, now, this is 0:59:39.280 --> 0:59:41.960 our best player and the three four defense. You think 0:59:42.000 --> 0:59:46.160 about how Todd Bowles used Darnell Dockett in Arizona. That's 0:59:46.160 --> 0:59:49.560 what I looking at. That's a great example right there. Yeah, 0:59:49.560 --> 0:59:53.080 but again looking at the Jets roster, they have Sheldon Richardson, 0:59:53.240 --> 0:59:56.360 they have Muhammad Wilkerson. Of course, Bowls didn't even have 0:59:56.480 --> 0:59:59.400 docket this last year's right, um, and they we've had 0:59:59.520 --> 1:00:03.280 one of the best defenses in the league, Tommy Kelly 1:00:03.360 --> 1:00:05.280 in that role. Could it be that the player is 1:00:05.320 --> 1:00:07.280 just the best player on the board. I mean, like 1:00:07.320 --> 1:00:09.720 we've talked about it. It's just okay, we'll take this 1:00:09.840 --> 1:00:12.680 player and find a spot for him. You're not gonna 1:00:12.680 --> 1:00:16.000 feel bad about drafting Leonard Williams. I think you would 1:00:16.000 --> 1:00:18.760 find a spot for Leonard Williams if you had the opportunity. 1:00:18.800 --> 1:00:21.320 I remember, the other thing interesting about the Jets is 1:00:21.360 --> 1:00:24.360 they have a need for a quarterback. Yes, And as 1:00:24.400 --> 1:00:26.840 we get to the Cowboys pick at twenty seven later 1:00:26.880 --> 1:00:29.600 in the round, the Jets in the second round pick 1:00:29.640 --> 1:00:32.760 at number thirty seven, and they if they are interested 1:00:32.920 --> 1:00:35.720 in a Bred Huntley or the pick, they will do 1:00:35.720 --> 1:00:37.760 the math for you. Give me the he's got the chart. 1:00:37.760 --> 1:00:40.800 We're ready to roll on if they I I'm I've 1:00:40.880 --> 1:00:42.680 gone on the record as saying I don't think the 1:00:42.680 --> 1:00:46.040 Cowboys pick tonight, So anything along those lines. So you're 1:00:46.040 --> 1:00:48.000 saying it's gonna get down to twenty seven and we're 1:00:48.000 --> 1:00:51.520 gonna be talking about somebody else's pick. Probably, I just 1:00:51.600 --> 1:00:53.840 I just have a feeling. So what the Jets pick 1:00:53.880 --> 1:00:57.160 at thirty seventy seven, I'll pick that as five spots 1:00:57.240 --> 1:01:00.480 five hundred thirty thinks they'd give up their four at 1:01:00.520 --> 1:01:02.920 one oh four would match it. The Cowboys pick at 1:01:02.920 --> 1:01:04.680 twenty seven is worth six hundred and eight points, So 1:01:04.680 --> 1:01:06.840 you're talking about a difference of one hundred and fifty points. 1:01:07.600 --> 1:01:10.040 So the Jets would need you need to make up 1:01:10.040 --> 1:01:12.200 one hundred and fifty points whether they're one oh four 1:01:12.280 --> 1:01:15.800 pick in the fourth round eighty six and still still 1:01:15.800 --> 1:01:18.439 a little light, still a little light. What's their third round? 1:01:18.480 --> 1:01:20.240 Their third round pick is worth two hundred and forty 1:01:20.240 --> 1:01:22.440 seven and we're talking about which is slip it? Something 1:01:22.480 --> 1:01:24.439 we talked about before we came on the airs. Maybe 1:01:24.440 --> 1:01:27.560 you could flip and exchange third round picks. So but 1:01:27.720 --> 1:01:30.280 you don't you give the Jets your or your fourth 1:01:30.360 --> 1:01:32.400 round picks? Excuse me, You give the Jets your pick 1:01:32.440 --> 1:01:33.880 at the back end of the fourth and move up 1:01:33.880 --> 1:01:36.000 into the early fourth maybe something like is that worth? 1:01:36.120 --> 1:01:38.520 It doesn't really sound like going down ten spots here's 1:01:38.520 --> 1:01:40.080 the commission. Doesn't really sound like it when you put 1:01:40.120 --> 1:01:44.760 it on paper. Good New York Jets slacked Leonard william 1:01:45.120 --> 1:01:50.360 Here we go. Ye there is great hair it. Yeah, 1:01:50.480 --> 1:01:54.040 but no, this does create some questions about Mohammed Wilkerson. 1:01:54.160 --> 1:01:56.000 Is he on the block? What are they plan to 1:01:56.000 --> 1:01:58.000 do with with Leonard Williams. You can't pass on the 1:01:58.000 --> 1:02:00.680 best player available in my opinion, here from Mike mccagnen 1:02:00.800 --> 1:02:03.560 for Todd Bowls for this for the new regime there 1:02:04.040 --> 1:02:07.040 with the Jets, it's a home run. Yeah. I think 1:02:07.080 --> 1:02:09.120 you said it too about how to use the player 1:02:09.400 --> 1:02:12.080 with Dockett. You know, I think when you do these 1:02:12.120 --> 1:02:14.400 types of things, you have to have a vision for 1:02:14.560 --> 1:02:17.840 the player, and I think that's what Mike mccagnan and 1:02:17.880 --> 1:02:20.360 Todd Bowles, you know, they have that and that's good. 1:02:20.400 --> 1:02:22.440 And then Mike and I go way back to the 1:02:22.560 --> 1:02:25.320 NFL Europe days. He was general manager young man at 1:02:25.360 --> 1:02:28.600 the London Monarchs that won a championship in nineteen ninety. 1:02:28.680 --> 1:02:30.640 So I'm really proud of him. He's got his first 1:02:30.680 --> 1:02:34.240 general manager's job in the league. But Leonard Williams to 1:02:34.320 --> 1:02:38.800 me is a no brainer as it is because of 1:02:38.840 --> 1:02:41.920 the talent of the talent. Now you talked about the 1:02:41.960 --> 1:02:44.240 scheme fits and things like that, You know, how that 1:02:44.320 --> 1:02:47.040 how that can all play out. We'll see And Leonard 1:02:47.040 --> 1:02:51.560 Williams six five, three hundred two pounds sub five flat 1:02:51.840 --> 1:02:57.120 forty four nine seven and uh, just just following the 1:02:57.120 --> 1:02:59.720 college football season, I remember on Saturday nights see in 1:02:59.720 --> 1:03:02.920 twitters from college football fans. So yeah, Leonard Williams is 1:03:02.920 --> 1:03:05.440 the best football player in America. Maybe the most interesting 1:03:05.680 --> 1:03:09.080 number when it comes to Leonard Williams twenty. It's his age. 1:03:09.160 --> 1:03:12.360 He doesn't turn twenty one until the summer, so June twentieth. 1:03:12.600 --> 1:03:15.560 A player that he just love the upside. You love 1:03:15.880 --> 1:03:17.680 not only who he is right now, but what he 1:03:17.720 --> 1:03:20.040 will continue to grow into the player he'll be for 1:03:20.120 --> 1:03:23.080 you down the road. And Chicago is on the clock 1:03:23.120 --> 1:03:25.800 the number seven pick. Just to review, Winston went to 1:03:25.840 --> 1:03:30.320 Tampa Bay, Mariota to Tennessee, Dante Fowler to Jacksonville, Cooper 1:03:30.320 --> 1:03:34.320 to Oakland, Shurf to Washington, Williams to the Jets. We've 1:03:34.320 --> 1:03:36.480 had no trade so far. Do you expect a lot 1:03:36.520 --> 1:03:39.280 of trades as we go along? Though, that's interesting that 1:03:39.400 --> 1:03:42.080 we haven't had one. I'm kind of disappointed right now, 1:03:42.120 --> 1:03:44.480 if I'm being honest, just in terms of the entertainment 1:03:44.560 --> 1:03:46.920 value of the first round and see that that always happens. 1:03:46.920 --> 1:03:50.040 Though all we all talk big about up and down 1:03:50.120 --> 1:03:51.880 the board, and maybe you'll have some some at the 1:03:51.920 --> 1:03:54.360 back end if some of these offensive lineman get down 1:03:54.680 --> 1:03:56.760 to a certain point somebody says, hey, I got to 1:03:56.800 --> 1:04:01.240 dive back in. But overall, teams just pretty much this 1:04:01.320 --> 1:04:03.240 is our board. We're gonna pick our board and then 1:04:03.320 --> 1:04:05.800 go from there. So yeah, don't ruin my fun. No, 1:04:06.080 --> 1:04:07.880 I'm not trying to ruin your fun at all. And 1:04:08.000 --> 1:04:10.880 you know, but I am saying though that to me 1:04:11.600 --> 1:04:14.080 and the Bears very quickly. And the Bears one of 1:04:14.120 --> 1:04:17.560 their needs, one of their needs was wide receiver Kevin White. 1:04:17.600 --> 1:04:21.200 Yea quarterbacks. Yeah, so this this looks like to me, Yeah, 1:04:21.280 --> 1:04:23.720 this has got Kevin White. I've written all over it. 1:04:24.120 --> 1:04:26.960 Not the TCU cornerback Kevin White, this would be the 1:04:27.040 --> 1:04:31.360 West Virginia wide receiver Kevin White. Yeah. They've talked about again, 1:04:31.520 --> 1:04:34.680 that's another team that we had the you know we 1:04:34.800 --> 1:04:37.640 got to see last year live, you know, and now 1:04:37.680 --> 1:04:40.760 they lose what Brandon Marshall's gone now and so you 1:04:40.800 --> 1:04:43.920 could lose Brandon Marshall in three months later replace him 1:04:43.960 --> 1:04:46.720 with Kevin White. Al Shan Jeffrey and Kevin White is 1:04:46.760 --> 1:04:49.680 not a bad duo, although they are apparently looking at 1:04:49.680 --> 1:04:52.960 shopping and Marty b the former Cowboys. So yeah, that 1:04:53.080 --> 1:04:56.040 is fascinating. Too early to take Wayne's here though, the 1:04:56.400 --> 1:04:59.040 corner from Michigan State, that was something a little bit 1:04:59.040 --> 1:05:01.080 of an issue that they had. Yeah, I mean he 1:05:01.120 --> 1:05:02.600 took a corner last year in the first round with 1:05:02.680 --> 1:05:05.400 Kyle Foolery. You could double up and go corner again, 1:05:05.480 --> 1:05:08.960 but not with Brandon Marshall no longer in town. Alshon 1:05:09.080 --> 1:05:13.000 Jeffrey is your your top receiver? Eddie Royal is there too, 1:05:13.200 --> 1:05:16.520 he is, and with with Kevin White, it just comes 1:05:16.520 --> 1:05:19.360 down to again you're talking about best player available and 1:05:19.640 --> 1:05:23.240 a player that really instantly helps your offense. Yeah, helps, 1:05:23.320 --> 1:05:26.040 Jay Cutler, did you see a players a lot of help? 1:05:26.160 --> 1:05:27.880 Did you see a player though, that played with that 1:05:27.920 --> 1:05:31.520 type of speed Kevin White? No, No, I think everyone 1:05:31.520 --> 1:05:33.400 was Florida by that four three five that he ran 1:05:33.440 --> 1:05:36.320 at the combine. No one expected that. But he wasn't 1:05:36.360 --> 1:05:39.120 slow on film, but he didn't run a fourth three 1:05:39.320 --> 1:05:41.560 did But did you feel like did he separated like 1:05:41.680 --> 1:05:43.880 the other I mean, was he like you know, the 1:05:43.920 --> 1:05:47.800 Coopers the Parkers guys like that. You know that he 1:05:48.120 --> 1:05:50.760 wasn't a consistent separator, but he was so good at 1:05:51.080 --> 1:05:53.640 catching the ball, even when guys are draped all over him. 1:05:53.720 --> 1:05:55.520 When the ball's up in the air. I have the 1:05:55.600 --> 1:06:01.760 utmost confidence exactly exactly I mean, I I like to play. 1:06:01.800 --> 1:06:04.040 I just didn't see a guy that I was. You 1:06:04.080 --> 1:06:06.520 know when when I went in before the combine and 1:06:06.600 --> 1:06:09.760 watching him play, I didn't see a guy that played 1:06:09.800 --> 1:06:13.640 that fast. I did see quarterback issues. They did a 1:06:13.720 --> 1:06:16.200 ton of them, a ton of them. That that quarterback 1:06:16.280 --> 1:06:19.120 lace trick trick. It was awful. Let's just go I'll 1:06:19.160 --> 1:06:22.480 say that. And so there's times when you they talk 1:06:22.520 --> 1:06:25.680 about the other Kevin White the TCU game. He had 1:06:25.720 --> 1:06:27.480 a good game, But then you look at trick and 1:06:27.560 --> 1:06:30.040 I remember the game, the balls all over the place, 1:06:30.120 --> 1:06:33.200 White White got open. The other one point that they 1:06:33.200 --> 1:06:35.840 weren't even throwing the ball at the end of the game. 1:06:35.880 --> 1:06:38.320 They were running the ball against tc How did these 1:06:38.360 --> 1:06:43.760 two of Cooper and White compared to Evans, Watkins, Beckham. 1:06:43.880 --> 1:06:46.160 That's something I'm sure we'll be talking about the next 1:06:46.200 --> 1:06:49.240 few months. I feel bad for these guys because those 1:06:49.280 --> 1:06:51.680 three set the standard for what a rookie. Ro Sandri 1:06:51.840 --> 1:06:54.120 did a nice job too, coming in there the third round. Yeah, 1:06:54.920 --> 1:06:56.920 or don't have to be the LSU Homer right now. 1:06:57.000 --> 1:07:00.640 I love being LS homer or a rookie receiver. He 1:07:00.680 --> 1:07:03.560 had a great season, had a great season with four receivers. 1:07:03.600 --> 1:07:06.880 Rookie receivers over a thousand yards last year. Usually wide 1:07:06.880 --> 1:07:10.120 receivers is the toughest position transition the NFL. It usually 1:07:10.160 --> 1:07:12.880 takes the longest time. With last year, we got spoiled 1:07:12.880 --> 1:07:15.320 with those that rookie class. Yeah, and you had Brandon 1:07:15.360 --> 1:07:17.720 Cooks got hurt, got hurt, right or else he'd be 1:07:17.760 --> 1:07:23.080 in that mix all right here, Roger, where's the seven? 1:07:23.160 --> 1:07:30.240 I think? Yeah, NFL Draft, the Chicago Bears select Kevin White. 1:07:30.280 --> 1:07:34.800 Here we go. They're happy about it in Chicago that 1:07:34.960 --> 1:07:37.000 we've been right on with our picks as we've gone 1:07:37.000 --> 1:07:39.880 along here. Well, it's I think it's gonna be. It's 1:07:39.920 --> 1:07:43.320 to me. The Williams won through us. Yeah, I think 1:07:43.360 --> 1:07:46.000 that's the Williams went through us. But when you start 1:07:46.040 --> 1:07:48.760 talking about, you know, these teams, I can get through you, Brian, 1:07:48.800 --> 1:07:51.720 I think the rest of us had littered. Oh I 1:07:51.280 --> 1:07:54.720 yah know you guys haven't did the Raiders though, you 1:07:54.720 --> 1:07:56.800 guys have no not Originally I'm saying, as we went 1:07:56.800 --> 1:07:59.120 along here, once the picks started coming off, I think 1:07:59.120 --> 1:08:01.080 you made it. You made a great point about Amari Cooper. 1:08:01.280 --> 1:08:03.680 You just couldn't rule it out there for for Oakland 1:08:03.800 --> 1:08:07.400 helping the quarterback. Yeah, I thought that all along right right, 1:08:07.520 --> 1:08:10.080 And Atlanta is on the clock. Now we're gonna see 1:08:10.880 --> 1:08:16.280 edge rusher here, maybe Bud, Bud and Vic those are 1:08:16.320 --> 1:08:19.040 just like those are pass rushers. You can't rule out 1:08:19.080 --> 1:08:22.479 the running back here. I like better as a pass rusher, 1:08:22.600 --> 1:08:26.439 Vic Beasley or Bud Dupree tast rusher from the right. 1:08:26.520 --> 1:08:30.479 It depends how they're used, because Beasley is I mean, 1:08:30.560 --> 1:08:32.760 he's explosive when he's in space. So if you're gonna 1:08:32.840 --> 1:08:35.920 use him in space, you know, let him run circles 1:08:35.960 --> 1:08:38.680 around blockers. He can do that. Um, So, depending on 1:08:38.720 --> 1:08:42.439 how they're used, I would lean Beasley there, I would too. Brian, 1:08:42.479 --> 1:08:45.040 our dear friend of the show, John Nelson, wants us 1:08:45.080 --> 1:08:48.320 to do the Draft show live Draft from London next year. 1:08:48.360 --> 1:08:51.559 What do you think what it's two o'clock in the 1:08:51.600 --> 1:08:54.240 morning over there. The folks over there to listen, God 1:08:54.240 --> 1:08:57.080 bless you. They impressed me. Were talking the planet. We 1:08:57.080 --> 1:08:59.800 were talking about them. Matter of fact. Dave's like, because 1:09:00.000 --> 1:09:02.720 all the like, all the all the London fans were 1:09:02.720 --> 1:09:05.000 all the Bridge fans were all up and they were 1:09:05.080 --> 1:09:07.800 they were firing questions. They're not just up, they're like 1:09:07.960 --> 1:09:10.639 you think that they're gms, Like they're so in tune 1:09:10.680 --> 1:09:14.240 and so passionate about the draft and hello to them all. Yeahs. Absolutely. 1:09:14.280 --> 1:09:16.760 What's the time difference right now? It's a sixth hour 1:09:17.120 --> 1:09:19.360 or maybe is it seven from the Central time zone. 1:09:19.400 --> 1:09:21.679 I'm sure John Neilson will let us know be a Twitter. 1:09:21.840 --> 1:09:24.000 It's one or two o'clock in the morning, which I 1:09:24.200 --> 1:09:27.400 go to bed. Guys, the pixel the Cowboys on the 1:09:27.400 --> 1:09:29.200 Cowboys don't go on the clock for another two or 1:09:29.240 --> 1:09:31.559 three hours. By the way, the first round last year 1:09:31.680 --> 1:09:36.200 was three hours and forty minutes. So and Cam Cam 1:09:36.240 --> 1:09:38.599 Cam in Sydney, Australia is telling us it's eleven am 1:09:38.680 --> 1:09:43.719 over there. So yeah, man, that's eight pm approaching eight o'clock. 1:09:43.760 --> 1:09:46.120 So we got Cowboys fans in Hong Kong as well, 1:09:46.160 --> 1:09:49.320 apparently Hong Kong, Sydney, London. I know there's a fan 1:09:49.400 --> 1:09:51.920 somewhere out there in Denmark, which is insane to me. 1:09:52.280 --> 1:09:53.920 Wait to go, guys, y'all Germany. We had a call 1:09:54.000 --> 1:09:57.000 once from Germany, we did and he it was um 1:09:57.040 --> 1:09:58.960 who did he want to know about? It was? It 1:09:59.080 --> 1:10:02.479 was Lankford, Jeremy Lamford, who's like not even a big name, 1:10:02.640 --> 1:10:06.800 just like a run of the mill running back. John says. 1:10:06.840 --> 1:10:09.479 It's one fifty five in the morning in London. God 1:10:09.479 --> 1:10:12.559 bless you. Kudos cool everybody out there for hanging out. 1:10:12.600 --> 1:10:15.760 Was again if you're tuning in for I know a 1:10:15.760 --> 1:10:20.439 lot of folks on our Twitter page the draft show. 1:10:21.040 --> 1:10:23.400 We do not have control of the war room cam, 1:10:23.840 --> 1:10:27.400 the Dallas cat when when they when they unveil the cam, 1:10:28.000 --> 1:10:31.360 Kent Garrison and a crew in there will get you 1:10:31.600 --> 1:10:34.200 on board with what's going on. Right now we're looking 1:10:34.240 --> 1:10:37.479 at it. There's still a gray cover over the top 1:10:37.560 --> 1:10:39.439 of it. Kind of surprising to be honest. I mean, 1:10:39.600 --> 1:10:42.559 you're not missing much other than Jerry, Stephen and Garrett 1:10:42.680 --> 1:10:45.519 kind of like some small talking and smiling at each other. 1:10:45.560 --> 1:10:49.400 But yeah, it is surprising that we're into the meat 1:10:49.439 --> 1:10:51.759 of this first round and they haven't taken this sheet 1:10:51.800 --> 1:10:54.439 off the screen yet. Yeah, so as soon as that happens, 1:10:54.880 --> 1:10:57.120 we will get to it. That's not something we're doing. 1:10:57.120 --> 1:10:59.920 It's not something to do with the feed. That's the dalla. 1:11:00.320 --> 1:11:02.160 We can see. It's a piece of paper sitting over 1:11:02.360 --> 1:11:04.680 the screen right exactly. But that's that's the whole thing. 1:11:04.760 --> 1:11:07.120 So all right, what the Falcons have done in free agency, 1:11:07.160 --> 1:11:10.639 They've signed Adrian Clayborne from Tampa Bay. O'Brien Schofield came 1:11:10.680 --> 1:11:13.200 with the new head coach of the Falcons, Dan Quinn 1:11:13.240 --> 1:11:18.000 from Seattle, Brooks Read from Houston, and of course Justin Durant, 1:11:18.040 --> 1:11:20.439 the linebacker from the Cowboys, got a three year, ten 1:11:20.520 --> 1:11:25.000 point eight million dollar deal. They've done on offense, they 1:11:25.720 --> 1:11:29.439 signed Leonard Hankerson and that's the only one of note 1:11:29.479 --> 1:11:32.880 couple of tight ends Jacob Tammy and Tony Milwyaukee. I 1:11:32.920 --> 1:11:36.200 think damn near every Cowboy free agent that left this 1:11:36.240 --> 1:11:38.200 past year went to a team that's on the twenty 1:11:38.240 --> 1:11:40.680 fifteen schedule. Yeah, not that it really matters. Feel out 1:11:40.720 --> 1:11:43.640 of hugging up before the it I mean not you know, 1:11:43.760 --> 1:11:46.280 it's just a tid, but it's not really doesn't mean anything, 1:11:46.320 --> 1:11:48.800 but it is interesting. They're all gonna wind up back 1:11:48.840 --> 1:11:51.599 here one way or another, you know, and and again 1:11:51.680 --> 1:11:54.240 we talk about the Falcons and you could go a 1:11:54.240 --> 1:11:57.960 couple of different ways here, but we the offensive line 1:11:58.000 --> 1:12:01.160 was but the pass rusher though, really, I mean we 1:12:01.600 --> 1:12:04.680 you know Vick Beasley. You're just your thoughts about Vick 1:12:04.800 --> 1:12:08.000 Beasley as well. And I know we've talked about bud Dyupree, 1:12:08.400 --> 1:12:12.360 but just your thoughts about Vic Beasley. Extremely productive at Clemson, 1:12:13.200 --> 1:12:15.559 a player that he is a little light in the pants. 1:12:15.600 --> 1:12:17.360 So he was. He was a running back when he 1:12:17.360 --> 1:12:19.519 first started, then he moved to tight end, then they 1:12:19.560 --> 1:12:22.320 moved him over to defense, where he was a pass rusher. 1:12:22.560 --> 1:12:24.560 Thirty three sacks over his career, fifty two and a 1:12:24.600 --> 1:12:27.360 half tackles for loss. You do you do worry about 1:12:27.360 --> 1:12:28.800 the length a little bit, only thirty two and a 1:12:28.840 --> 1:12:31.840 half inch arms, But he blew up the combine. Yeah, 1:12:31.840 --> 1:12:34.080 I mean what he did with four five three forty 1:12:34.640 --> 1:12:38.160 thirty five bitch rap, which was surprised. Surprised well, and 1:12:38.320 --> 1:12:40.800 even even the two forty six his weight. I talked 1:12:40.800 --> 1:12:43.680 to a scout who visited Clemson in the fall, and 1:12:43.840 --> 1:12:45.759 he told me he was a two twenty so two 1:12:45.800 --> 1:12:49.080 forty six. In February and you wondered, Okay, two forty six, 1:12:49.080 --> 1:12:51.640 that's a great number. But Kenny sustained the speed, the 1:12:51.680 --> 1:12:54.479 explosiveness at that number, and the numbers say that he 1:12:54.560 --> 1:12:57.960 can forty one inch vertical ten ten broad jump six 1:12:58.120 --> 1:13:00.720 nine one three cone. So the numbers are standing and 1:13:00.760 --> 1:13:03.160 they match what you see on tape. Yeah, but I 1:13:03.240 --> 1:13:05.760 do worry about the point of attack strength. He can 1:13:05.840 --> 1:13:07.840 be washed out of the play at times in the 1:13:07.920 --> 1:13:11.360 run game by by blockers. So not a player that 1:13:11.560 --> 1:13:14.320 is not a power player. But again, he can run. 1:13:14.439 --> 1:13:16.320 He can run circles around blockers. He has that type 1:13:16.320 --> 1:13:20.559 of athleticism. And so with in dan Quinn's defense in Atlanta, 1:13:21.000 --> 1:13:24.120 I like to fit there. Okay, but tell me from 1:13:24.160 --> 1:13:27.280 a scouting standpoint what this says to you about both 1:13:27.280 --> 1:13:30.040 these players. Because we talked about the Beasley combined numbers 1:13:30.080 --> 1:13:33.000 forty one vertical ten ten broad jump, those other numbers, 1:13:33.240 --> 1:13:37.679 Alvin bud Dupree forty two vertical eleven six broad jump 1:13:37.760 --> 1:13:40.519 ran a four to five six at two hundred and 1:13:40.520 --> 1:13:43.280 sixty seven pounds as opposed to two forty six. I 1:13:43.320 --> 1:13:45.519 think bud dupre to me, is more of a left 1:13:45.560 --> 1:13:47.840 defensive end. If you want to play. They played the 1:13:47.920 --> 1:13:50.519 right side at Kentucky. Yeah, well, he played a lot 1:13:50.560 --> 1:13:52.600 on the strong side. I mean he went back and 1:13:53.200 --> 1:13:55.760 he was really an outside linebacker and some of his 1:13:55.840 --> 1:13:58.920 best work was actually standing up rush. In the past weeks, 1:13:59.000 --> 1:14:01.839 we're Beasley to me is a screamer off the edge, 1:14:01.960 --> 1:14:05.439 hand down. You talk about ice cream flavors, you know 1:14:06.000 --> 1:14:09.120 these passes. These are two good pass rushers, different flavors. 1:14:09.120 --> 1:14:10.960 They offer different things, So it depends on how you 1:14:10.960 --> 1:14:13.080 want to use them. And I think for what Atlanta 1:14:13.160 --> 1:14:16.599 wants to do, Beasley better fits what dan Quinn wants 1:14:16.600 --> 1:14:18.760 to do one. Yeah, exactly. You talk about dan Quinn 1:14:18.800 --> 1:14:22.639 in Seattle. You deal with all that edge pressure, hand 1:14:22.640 --> 1:14:25.519 down guys coming off the edge. Vic Beasley to me 1:14:25.720 --> 1:14:29.120 makes a lot more sense than say Bud dupre who 1:14:29.320 --> 1:14:32.920 I do like Bud Dupree just in that same area, 1:14:32.960 --> 1:14:35.599 though maybe a little bit better than Vic Beasley, because 1:14:35.600 --> 1:14:38.120 I thought he could play the left side. You know, 1:14:38.320 --> 1:14:41.679 you're right. I saw Beasley get washed some of these games. 1:14:41.720 --> 1:14:44.240 It's a great example of how much this whole process 1:14:44.360 --> 1:14:49.439 changes from January to May. Because Bud was probably the 1:14:49.479 --> 1:14:52.000 first guy, one of the first guys at least who 1:14:52.040 --> 1:14:54.280 really kind of a lot of links to the Cowboys 1:14:54.320 --> 1:14:56.160 came out like maybe he falls as far he fits 1:14:56.160 --> 1:14:58.519 the need here, and now we're talking about him maybe 1:14:58.520 --> 1:15:00.640 being a top ten pick, and certainly, you know it 1:15:00.680 --> 1:15:02.600 would be a monumental upset if he's even in the 1:15:02.600 --> 1:15:08.240 Cowboys range. Here's the commissioner with the eighth pick in 1:15:08.320 --> 1:15:17.000 the twenty fifteenth NFL drafts. The Atlanta Falcons select Vic Beasley. There, 1:15:17.200 --> 1:15:19.760 Vic Beasley, and I agree, I think he was the 1:15:19.800 --> 1:15:22.320 perfect fit for them. Yeah, that's a that's a team 1:15:22.320 --> 1:15:24.680 though again you know they just did not they were 1:15:24.680 --> 1:15:27.799 where they were worse than the league last year in sacks. 1:15:28.200 --> 1:15:32.400 So you know, Vic Beasley, the weight of Georgia is 1:15:32.439 --> 1:15:35.360 now on his back. It's funny. Here's a Clemson man, 1:15:35.439 --> 1:15:39.439 hopefully come to say the Atlanta Falcons playing about a 1:15:39.479 --> 1:15:41.720 two and a half hour drive, and that's what that 1:15:41.760 --> 1:15:44.120 would be less. But again, you're talking about a team 1:15:44.160 --> 1:15:46.479 that really really struggled to rush the passer last year. 1:15:46.680 --> 1:15:48.519 Vick Beasley will give him all right. So the New 1:15:48.600 --> 1:15:51.960 York Football Giants are on the clock the number nine 1:15:52.040 --> 1:15:54.800 pick in the first round. So last night I was 1:15:54.880 --> 1:15:57.240 throwing some darts to see what we see, what will 1:15:57.280 --> 1:15:59.559 come up with these picks? You were chumming some water. Yeah, 1:15:59.640 --> 1:16:02.760 six right, so far, I'll take that. Not bad. Yeah, 1:16:03.000 --> 1:16:05.360 you know, Leonard Williams did not see that coming. Do 1:16:05.520 --> 1:16:07.080 not see that coming? But what he did. I am 1:16:07.080 --> 1:16:08.680 happy with six for eight so far. Well and the 1:16:10.439 --> 1:16:14.040 miss two yeah exactly. Well, that's I'll tell you what though. 1:16:14.040 --> 1:16:16.320 The Giants, I think they have to feel a little 1:16:16.680 --> 1:16:20.400 disappointed that. Sure if this is not on the board 1:16:20.479 --> 1:16:22.719 right there, you know, it's a team that can could 1:16:22.760 --> 1:16:25.479 surely you have who do you have the Giants taken? 1:16:26.240 --> 1:16:29.040 I had them taken Amari Cooper, so obviously that will 1:16:29.080 --> 1:16:32.840 I will not be seven for nine. But but a 1:16:32.840 --> 1:16:35.280 lot of people had Shurff going to the Giants, right 1:16:35.360 --> 1:16:38.000 and so we talked about this earlier with Coughlin. Yeah, 1:16:38.000 --> 1:16:40.360 he said it himself, being a little upset that Shriff's 1:16:40.360 --> 1:16:43.040 off the board here. So I think we still go 1:16:43.080 --> 1:16:45.320 offensive line here at nine. I don't know if they 1:16:45.320 --> 1:16:47.640 would go offensive line because I don't see you know, 1:16:47.920 --> 1:16:50.400 could they go Flower? I mean, who's your Okay, Collins 1:16:50.479 --> 1:16:53.280 might have been their pick. Yeah, that's saying you've got pew. 1:16:53.880 --> 1:16:55.439 I mean you just take want to kick him in 1:16:55.439 --> 1:16:57.639 the guard though, right, I mean they need they need 1:16:57.680 --> 1:17:02.479 tackle help is really what's that's yeah, is trying. They're 1:17:02.560 --> 1:17:04.840 They're a lot like the Washington Redskins last year when 1:17:04.840 --> 1:17:08.120 you watched him play. Remember what a train wreck that was. 1:17:08.200 --> 1:17:11.160 There's I think there's a very real correlation between what 1:17:11.200 --> 1:17:13.960 the Giants are right now and what the Cowboys were 1:17:14.080 --> 1:17:15.680 three or four years ago. I mean, you know you 1:17:15.720 --> 1:17:18.439 can win with your quarterback. Uh, it's a matter of 1:17:18.520 --> 1:17:20.400 him not having a whole lot around him. So I 1:17:20.439 --> 1:17:25.519 mean you go get him Beckham a New York I 1:17:25.760 --> 1:17:29.080 think if it is offensive line, who would it be here, Pete. 1:17:30.080 --> 1:17:32.400 I tell you what, I would not be surprised they 1:17:32.439 --> 1:17:35.559 take flowers. Yeah, I mean, hey, and you know you 1:17:35.600 --> 1:17:39.360 watch him play. He is a maller brawler, and that's 1:17:39.360 --> 1:17:42.280 how the Giants play. They play with that maller brawler 1:17:42.400 --> 1:17:47.360 style of offense. Tom Coughlin wants to not pretty, but 1:17:47.439 --> 1:17:50.160 you play him. I think they can play left tackle though. 1:17:50.439 --> 1:17:52.360 I mean to me, I'm just I'm just kind of 1:17:52.360 --> 1:17:55.080 reading some notes here. Likely to move Richburk back to 1:17:55.439 --> 1:17:58.600 Richberk back to center, look to add a guard, d 1:17:58.800 --> 1:18:01.639 go back, go over to the side. Then they want 1:18:01.640 --> 1:18:06.000 to move a pew back to guard. So maybe maybe 1:18:05.960 --> 1:18:08.559 you'll play the right tackle. Yeah, so they may. They 1:18:08.560 --> 1:18:10.840 could treat it like the Cowboys did with Tyren Smith, 1:18:10.880 --> 1:18:12.679 had the rookie played the right side, with the idea 1:18:12.720 --> 1:18:14.920 that he'd moved to the left side once he learned 1:18:14.920 --> 1:18:18.479 the NFL. With Flowers, could have he used another year 1:18:18.520 --> 1:18:21.000 at Miami. Yes, he could have used some more seasoning. 1:18:21.240 --> 1:18:23.000 But you have a player that you have a lot 1:18:23.040 --> 1:18:26.040 to work with. You do see some stiffness, you do 1:18:26.040 --> 1:18:29.000 do see some flaws, but he is a tough sob. 1:18:29.760 --> 1:18:31.760 I mean he is a finisher. I mean once he 1:18:31.760 --> 1:18:33.799 gets his hands on you and he plays on his feet. 1:18:34.000 --> 1:18:37.599 But I think guy, and you know the reps. What 1:18:37.640 --> 1:18:39.160 was the reps on him? Was he was? He a 1:18:39.200 --> 1:18:42.639 thirty rep guy? Really surprising about I thought of talking 1:18:42.680 --> 1:18:46.599 about Flowers, Flowers Flow Flowers was thirty seven. See that's 1:18:46.640 --> 1:18:51.400 what I'm saying. This is a this is not really related. 1:18:51.479 --> 1:18:53.479 But with the number of dudes that you is about 1:18:53.479 --> 1:18:55.120 to put in the league this year, you think they 1:18:55.560 --> 1:19:00.599 they were bad team six and seven bad a good 1:19:00.600 --> 1:19:03.160 team where where we're all these just blew me away. 1:19:03.160 --> 1:19:06.240 I looked this up earlier. Assuming Flowers is the pick 1:19:06.280 --> 1:19:08.760 here or in the next few picks, it'll be the 1:19:08.840 --> 1:19:12.040 first time a Miami Hurricane is drafted top twenty since 1:19:12.080 --> 1:19:15.400 two thousand and five. For a marquee program like that. 1:19:15.640 --> 1:19:18.200 I mean, you go a decade without there's still top 1:19:18.240 --> 1:19:20.720 three a number of players in the NFL, and to say, 1:19:20.760 --> 1:19:22.599 I mean if they haven't run the run they had 1:19:22.600 --> 1:19:25.320 in the nine eighties, nineties and then early two thousands. Yeah, 1:19:25.360 --> 1:19:27.680 that Flowers, by the way, he was a starter his 1:19:27.840 --> 1:19:30.559 last two years at left tackle. He started twelve games 1:19:30.560 --> 1:19:33.960 at right tackle his first year. Yeah. You speaking of 1:19:34.160 --> 1:19:36.519 free agents playing the Cowboys, Dwayne Harris now in New 1:19:36.600 --> 1:19:38.840 York Giants, it's just so much, there's so much to 1:19:38.880 --> 1:19:43.200 do with this offensive line and it gets suriff going off. 1:19:43.680 --> 1:19:47.000 I think that hurt the Giant. I'm willing to bet 1:19:47.360 --> 1:19:49.880 that they've got They've got an offensive lineman, but I 1:19:49.920 --> 1:19:52.479 don't have a guard. I don't have somebody. But if 1:19:52.479 --> 1:19:56.200 you can move Pew to guard, does that help? I mean, well, 1:19:56.280 --> 1:19:58.519 pu helps a guard. Now I need a tackle. Well 1:19:58.600 --> 1:20:02.280 that's for this, it's Flowers. But I guess I'm saying 1:20:02.439 --> 1:20:05.320 is there's not another offensive tackle. I mean, that's and 1:20:05.400 --> 1:20:07.400 here we go. It looks like the Commissioner head into 1:20:07.400 --> 1:20:09.800 the Flowers, maybe Pete. I mean, it's gonna be an 1:20:09.840 --> 1:20:12.759 offensive tackle. If I had to guess, I think good flowers, 1:20:13.040 --> 1:20:19.360 better feet. NFL draft the New York Giants select Eric 1:20:19.439 --> 1:20:25.920 Flowers Miami. You don't even need to be watching the Commissioner. 1:20:26.160 --> 1:20:28.920 You can just hear it right here. Big Brian brought 1:20:28.960 --> 1:20:32.439 it down. Eric Flowers out of Miami is a New 1:20:32.520 --> 1:20:36.000 York Giant. I mean, and you know I'm not I 1:20:36.040 --> 1:20:37.680 don't watch anywhere near as much tape as you do, 1:20:37.720 --> 1:20:40.160 so I'm not trying. I'm not saying this guy's can't miss. 1:20:40.640 --> 1:20:42.439 But if he does what you think he's gonna do, 1:20:42.479 --> 1:20:43.840 I mean, you took him in the top ten, so 1:20:43.880 --> 1:20:45.760 you think he's a Day one starter who's gonna be 1:20:45.760 --> 1:20:49.080 good if he does that. I mean, we've talked about 1:20:49.120 --> 1:20:51.240 this in the office before just shooting the breeze. I 1:20:51.280 --> 1:20:54.639 think the Giants are like, they're looking like they're taking 1:20:54.680 --> 1:20:56.719 a step up in my opinion. I mean, you always 1:20:56.760 --> 1:20:58.760 I don't think you count the Giants out if you, 1:20:59.320 --> 1:21:00.560 I mean, what are they I mean, they got the 1:21:00.600 --> 1:21:03.000 quarterback they had. They Oh yeah, we think they have 1:21:03.000 --> 1:21:05.599 a quarterback. We know Eli Manning can win. I know 1:21:05.680 --> 1:21:07.439 a lot of Cowboys fans don't want to hear it. 1:21:07.920 --> 1:21:10.360 He can. Yeah, if you fix your offensive line, give 1:21:10.400 --> 1:21:12.280 him some time to throw. You got a decent running back, 1:21:12.640 --> 1:21:14.880 you got the rookie of the year, and Victor Cruz 1:21:14.920 --> 1:21:18.200 out wide. Uh you know I yeah, like you said, 1:21:18.240 --> 1:21:19.840 I'm not counting the Giants out. I don't think you 1:21:19.840 --> 1:21:23.080 can afford to do that. My favorite, uh tidbit with 1:21:23.080 --> 1:21:26.200 with Eric Flowers, the only player in this draft who 1:21:26.360 --> 1:21:30.320 didn't hire an agent, decided you know what these uh, 1:21:31.000 --> 1:21:32.800 these picks are already slotted. You know, I don't need 1:21:32.840 --> 1:21:35.120 an agent right now. I have a great point negotiating 1:21:35.200 --> 1:21:38.400 going on. Negotiation process is non existent. I'll hire a 1:21:38.479 --> 1:21:40.599 lawyer to help with the contract stuff, but I don't 1:21:40.600 --> 1:21:43.759 need to be giving ten percent of my contract. Andre 1:21:43.960 --> 1:21:46.120 Johnson did the same thing. Another guy out. Can I 1:21:46.120 --> 1:21:49.679 ask a question here, and who would you liked better? 1:21:50.320 --> 1:21:55.720 Flowers or Humphrey from Florida? See that's what or the 1:21:55.760 --> 1:21:58.840 Giants are in general? Of the two, Well, you like 1:21:58.960 --> 1:22:01.840 Pete the best? Pete would be your guy. All right. 1:22:02.000 --> 1:22:04.320 So there are some people who've had Pete listed as 1:22:04.360 --> 1:22:06.920 they're like one of their top five players in the draft. Okay, 1:22:06.960 --> 1:22:09.200 but saying okay, now, if you're Saint Louis and I'm 1:22:09.240 --> 1:22:11.639 going with them now on the clock, this is a team. 1:22:11.680 --> 1:22:16.479 When you talk about needs tackle, center, guard, you know, 1:22:16.560 --> 1:22:21.639 we receiver, defensive tackle. I mean again, there's a team 1:22:21.680 --> 1:22:24.760 that we saw live last year that it was kind 1:22:24.760 --> 1:22:28.280 of a just a patchwork group of offensive linemen. Is 1:22:28.280 --> 1:22:31.759 this when we start seeing a little bit of the run? Uh? Maybe? 1:22:31.800 --> 1:22:34.639 You know, I hope not for the cowboys sake, because 1:22:34.680 --> 1:22:36.760 I want those guys sitting there for teams to want 1:22:36.760 --> 1:22:38.800 to come get. Yeah, it is all right, this is 1:22:38.840 --> 1:22:42.960 this too early for DJ for Humphreys from from from Florida. No, 1:22:43.400 --> 1:22:45.760 because you would take Pete, well I would, yes, But 1:22:45.760 --> 1:22:48.080 we're gonna see these offensive linemen go quickly because in 1:22:48.080 --> 1:22:49.880 a draft like this where we don't have those no 1:22:50.000 --> 1:22:52.320 brain er elite guys at the top, there's gonna be 1:22:52.320 --> 1:22:55.840 a lot of similar players. You know, the guy you 1:22:55.880 --> 1:22:57.800 get at ten is gonna be very similar to the 1:22:57.840 --> 1:22:59.880 guy you get at twenty five. And and and so if 1:23:00.000 --> 1:23:02.240 if Humphries goes here, or if he goes into twenties, 1:23:02.360 --> 1:23:05.200 it's not really big of a jump talent wise, so 1:23:05.400 --> 1:23:07.519 would not shock me at off. We see humph humphries 1:23:07.560 --> 1:23:11.320 this early. We got a fan here who is from Hungary. 1:23:11.520 --> 1:23:14.040 Oh wow, three am local time. Thank you so much. 1:23:14.040 --> 1:23:15.760 If you're well, if you're listening to us from a 1:23:15.800 --> 1:23:18.720 cool place, tweet at me and I'll shout you out 1:23:18.800 --> 1:23:23.439 and like I'm talking not uh you know Dallas somewhere, 1:23:23.520 --> 1:23:26.240 you know, give me, give me something impressive. Yeah, because 1:23:26.240 --> 1:23:29.160 that's pretty cool. If you're watching the draft show from Hungary. Yeah, 1:23:29.240 --> 1:23:32.120 so I got real quick bill to answer twenty question. Uh, 1:23:32.479 --> 1:23:35.639 cowboy five man. He's asked any feeling that the Rams 1:23:35.640 --> 1:23:37.559 would trade out of this position. That's what I was 1:23:37.560 --> 1:23:39.639 gonna say. We haven't seen a draft or we haven't 1:23:39.640 --> 1:23:42.320 seen a trade yet. It's it's time we start talking 1:23:42.360 --> 1:23:48.519 about trades and what's gonna happen here. Tess a big 1:23:48.560 --> 1:23:50.840 mover now. Absolutely, he's done in the past and he'll 1:23:50.880 --> 1:23:53.280 do it again if if the right deal comes around. 1:23:53.360 --> 1:23:56.680 Who could Yeah? Who behind him with someone looking for 1:23:56.720 --> 1:24:01.240 Todd Gurley? Yeah, Miami who Oh, it's not too early 1:24:01.280 --> 1:24:03.920 for Todd Gurley and Parker still out there. We'll see 1:24:03.920 --> 1:24:06.439 if you worried about if you worried about can they 1:24:06.479 --> 1:24:09.000 just leave Todd Gurley alone? See if Miami would be 1:24:09.040 --> 1:24:13.320 the one team that would probably take Gurley at fourteen. Okay, 1:24:13.360 --> 1:24:16.120 picks already end, So we'll see what that. But yeah, 1:24:16.200 --> 1:24:20.240 maybe we're not gonna get any trades. At some point. 1:24:20.280 --> 1:24:23.639 We'll have a trade at some point. The first let's 1:24:23.640 --> 1:24:25.880 ask you this though, could and I'm looking at their 1:24:25.880 --> 1:24:29.439 team needs could they take a runner? I mean Saint Louis. 1:24:29.439 --> 1:24:35.000 We talked about Mason you think he was not bad 1:24:35.080 --> 1:24:37.800 to quote he was a second round pick. Second? But 1:24:37.840 --> 1:24:40.240 how about how about a Bell Cow guy? I mean, 1:24:40.400 --> 1:24:42.599 is that would that be pom mean you talk about 1:24:42.600 --> 1:24:46.639 Mason Reynolds Cunningham where it was a guy that was mentioned. 1:24:46.680 --> 1:24:48.640 I'd be interested to hear with Kurt Wonders saying right now, 1:24:48.680 --> 1:24:52.360 I bet he knows what's going on, guy. But yeah, 1:24:52.600 --> 1:24:55.400 you know this is a team though, Could could this 1:24:55.439 --> 1:24:58.280 be the could this be the We don't you know, 1:24:58.400 --> 1:25:01.360 we're looking at a position like the offensive line, but 1:25:01.400 --> 1:25:04.639 they're really not very good at running back or they're 1:25:04.640 --> 1:25:07.240 not good at another I mean, there's a scrap to 1:25:07.320 --> 1:25:09.479 so many wide receivers in the past. That's what I'm saying. 1:25:09.840 --> 1:25:12.160 There's a certain point I think for every team where 1:25:12.200 --> 1:25:15.280 you feel like a talent like Todd Gurley is worth it. 1:25:15.280 --> 1:25:17.439 It doesn't matter who else is on your roster, it 1:25:17.479 --> 1:25:19.680 doesn't matter what your depth chart looks like. There is 1:25:19.680 --> 1:25:22.639 a point for every single team where you know what, 1:25:22.720 --> 1:25:24.920 Todd Gurley looks awfully tempting right here in front of 1:25:24.920 --> 1:25:27.360 the Rams. Would Todd Curley be the best player on 1:25:27.400 --> 1:25:30.720 your board right now? One? Oh yeah, absolutely so you 1:25:30.720 --> 1:25:33.479 would have no problem taking Todd Gurley right now. Well, 1:25:33.760 --> 1:25:35.519 but if you're the Rams, you look at what they've 1:25:35.560 --> 1:25:37.840 invested in the in the position before with Trey Mason 1:25:37.920 --> 1:25:40.840 last year. But it's Tray Mason anything. I mean, he 1:25:40.920 --> 1:25:42.599 got better, he got better down the stretch. I mean 1:25:42.640 --> 1:25:45.280 he's not He's hell. Here's the other thing is, since 1:25:45.280 --> 1:25:47.479 they have Trey Mason, they have some other backs. If 1:25:47.520 --> 1:25:50.760 Girley's not ready at the start of the season, a 1:25:50.800 --> 1:25:53.600 little good point. And that's the other thing I'm not 1:25:54.960 --> 1:25:57.519 I'm not betting against him. I'm not betting against him 1:25:57.520 --> 1:25:59.759 at all. I think I think he's gonna be ready. Remember, 1:25:59.800 --> 1:26:02.040 that once upon a time they had Stephen Jackson in 1:26:02.120 --> 1:26:04.679 Saint Louis for years and years of bell coal back. 1:26:04.920 --> 1:26:14.320 Yeah right, Todd Gurley, he he Julius Jones. Yeah, he 1:26:14.360 --> 1:26:17.799 gurly changes your offense. I mean he brings a different identity. 1:26:18.360 --> 1:26:21.400 He makes defensive coordinators really really game plan for what 1:26:21.439 --> 1:26:23.679 you're going to do. Let's Steed is an SEC guy 1:26:23.720 --> 1:26:26.720 by the way, too went to school at all, that's 1:26:26.800 --> 1:26:30.160 very and he took and he took, he took Robinson 1:26:30.439 --> 1:26:33.240 last year. The tackle, by the way, is still penciled 1:26:33.280 --> 1:26:35.720 in as the left tackle there. Yeah, and checked a 1:26:35.800 --> 1:26:38.439 guard down the road. Or let's see it, glaring needed 1:26:38.560 --> 1:26:41.760 right tackle, need a starter overall depth at position, had 1:26:41.840 --> 1:26:46.320 visited all the top tackles. Yeah, so Barndale Washington listed 1:26:46.360 --> 1:26:49.120 as their right tackle. Marksdale is at starting tackle last year. 1:26:49.160 --> 1:26:52.400 He has not been resigned. I say they're somewhere Nick 1:26:52.439 --> 1:26:55.280 Foles is, he's wondering, am I gonna get a blocker here? 1:26:55.320 --> 1:26:57.160 Am I gonna? Am I gonna get a runner here? 1:26:57.240 --> 1:27:00.960 If he has any consultation with Sam Bradford, he will say, 1:27:01.320 --> 1:27:03.879 give me an offensive life. I just wouldn't be surprised 1:27:03.920 --> 1:27:06.880 if if less Sneed and Jeff Fisher just go off 1:27:06.880 --> 1:27:09.519 the reservation here, I really, I mean I did what 1:27:10.000 --> 1:27:13.080 constitute's going off the reservation. We don't have him taking 1:27:13.120 --> 1:27:15.840 a runner, Yeah, I mean we don't have him. But 1:27:16.080 --> 1:27:18.040 let's need. An SEC guy will say this. It'd be 1:27:18.040 --> 1:27:20.439 the first while in the draft that happens. But you 1:27:20.600 --> 1:27:24.200 like the player, no question, Ready just didn't predict us fit. 1:27:24.760 --> 1:27:28.639 We're the tenth pick in the twenty fifteen NFL Draft, 1:27:29.680 --> 1:27:35.639 the Saint Louis Ram select Todd Gurley, running back Georgia. 1:27:35.800 --> 1:27:41.080 To look at that smile, less Sneed is an SEC guy, 1:27:41.479 --> 1:27:43.599 and you said he was one of your best players 1:27:43.600 --> 1:27:46.920 on the board. And Less Sneed's Auburn team is the face. 1:27:47.040 --> 1:27:49.559 I mean they hurt the defense that knocked him out. Yeah, 1:27:50.120 --> 1:27:51.639 the reason he won't be on the field to start 1:27:51.640 --> 1:27:53.800 the season. Probably. We had a lot of conversation about 1:27:53.840 --> 1:27:58.240 the Cowboys and running backs and draft. How much did 1:27:58.280 --> 1:28:02.479 you have Todd Gurley over the Melvin Gordon's Steven It 1:28:02.520 --> 1:28:06.160 was it was tier Tierra alone by himself. Right, I'm 1:28:06.160 --> 1:28:08.639 gonna go. I'm gonna say Leonard Williams, Dante Feller, Todd 1:28:08.680 --> 1:28:10.599 Gurley my top three players on my on my card 1:28:10.640 --> 1:28:13.720 to argue, yeah, that was my second guessing from a 1:28:13.800 --> 1:28:16.439 Cowboys perspective, there's no way that the Cowboys been trade 1:28:16.479 --> 1:28:18.400 from twenty seven to ten. But can we just have 1:28:18.439 --> 1:28:21.720 a moment and think about what could have been with 1:28:21.840 --> 1:28:23.840 Todd Gurley? It would have been fun. Let it go, 1:28:23.880 --> 1:28:26.160 It would have been fun and that song let it Go. 1:28:26.800 --> 1:28:29.639 But say, that's what I'm saying though to me, when 1:28:29.640 --> 1:28:32.439 you start thinking about less Snee, the wild the wild card, 1:28:32.680 --> 1:28:35.600 it's just who is the best player? And yeah, it 1:28:35.640 --> 1:28:37.400 goes back to what I was saying about. At some 1:28:37.479 --> 1:28:39.920 point for every team, Todd Gurley's worth it, and you 1:28:39.920 --> 1:28:41.880 know he's He's just he's the best talent. It doesn't 1:28:41.920 --> 1:28:44.080 matter who else is on your roster. At some point 1:28:44.240 --> 1:28:48.840 you feel comfortable making that pick it. Man, that's a 1:28:48.840 --> 1:28:52.720 pretty that's in my backfield. Yeah, the NFC West and 1:28:52.960 --> 1:28:58.320 hey against better you better have the bat against Yeah, 1:28:58.360 --> 1:29:01.360 you better have a bat with Minnesota on the clock now, 1:29:01.400 --> 1:29:03.240 So this is the highest running back has gone since 1:29:03.280 --> 1:29:08.800 Trent Richardson? Is that right? Overall? So? Well, that beat 1:29:08.880 --> 1:29:11.880 that puts let's see who goes on the clock and 1:29:11.960 --> 1:29:16.000 Todd Gurleys Nope, but we didn't think Trent Richardson was 1:29:16.040 --> 1:29:20.360 in Trent Richardson's right, Trey Wayne's Yeah, this one, to 1:29:20.439 --> 1:29:23.000 me is a nopera, never going with a cornerback. He's 1:29:23.000 --> 1:29:25.760 gonna let me ask you this. That's kind of about 1:29:25.760 --> 1:29:28.360 in the one Bridgewater is sitting there lobbying for DeVante. 1:29:28.680 --> 1:29:33.000 This is this is where where I think we well, yeah, absolutely, 1:29:33.400 --> 1:29:35.439 but I think it's what about Dupre though? What about 1:29:36.320 --> 1:29:41.720 him with Anthony Barr? Yeah, yeah, Hey, that's great for me. 1:29:42.040 --> 1:29:44.880 Keep keep the cornerbacks on the board. I don't want 1:29:44.960 --> 1:29:47.519 people taking cornerbacks because I want the Cowboys to take 1:29:47.560 --> 1:29:51.200 a defensive end, corner, wide receiver, top three needs for 1:29:51.240 --> 1:29:53.320 the Vikings. There you go. I mean how much clout 1:29:53.360 --> 1:29:55.400 does Teddy Bridgewater have Do you think he could pull 1:29:55.439 --> 1:29:57.800 that off? Like Tony Romo could walk in there and 1:29:57.920 --> 1:30:00.719 be like pray in the day. If they don't trade 1:30:00.800 --> 1:30:04.320 that runner, he's praying right now, that's done, right, We're 1:30:04.360 --> 1:30:07.639 not If you're the Vikings, He's still gonna make calls. 1:30:07.880 --> 1:30:10.559 Todd Gurley just went off the board. The Vikings are 1:30:10.600 --> 1:30:12.880 the one making calls. I think it's the other teams. 1:30:12.960 --> 1:30:14.960 I'll tell you what the Rams just took Gurley off 1:30:15.000 --> 1:30:16.679 the board in front of him. Though, if the Vikings 1:30:16.720 --> 1:30:20.200 were interested in saying we'll move, that's a great point. 1:30:20.280 --> 1:30:23.280 Maybe there, maybe they would not take Melvin Gordon, not 1:30:23.439 --> 1:30:27.000 at a maybe you trade back, trade back. I think 1:30:27.040 --> 1:30:30.040 that you got to consider Bud Dupree here. I mean 1:30:30.720 --> 1:30:34.040 or Waynes or Waynes. I've had Waynes all along. But 1:30:34.320 --> 1:30:39.000 again the defense again, zimmer pressure, give me those guys. 1:30:39.240 --> 1:30:41.519 And they have signed Michael Wallace and free agency and 1:30:41.680 --> 1:30:44.920 Terence Newman. He's about forty five years old, but that's 1:30:46.560 --> 1:30:49.559 Zach Stacy's still with the Rams too. He's not bad player, yeah, 1:30:50.120 --> 1:30:52.400 he is still let He's not a cowboy, I know. 1:30:53.640 --> 1:30:56.640 By the way, Still we're still showing us because they 1:30:56.760 --> 1:30:59.559 all sec running. They have not uncovered the war rooms, 1:30:59.560 --> 1:31:02.240 so if you're tuning in for that, it's still all 1:31:02.280 --> 1:31:04.519 of our mugs on the show right now, trying to 1:31:04.840 --> 1:31:07.439 get you through this. But looking at the war room, 1:31:07.479 --> 1:31:09.840 can they still have the tarp down on it? And 1:31:09.920 --> 1:31:13.680 as soon as it uslip paper bran, that's not a tarpon, 1:31:13.680 --> 1:31:16.120 as he gets as soon as he gets lifted, then 1:31:16.240 --> 1:31:19.240 we will go directly in the real notebook paper over 1:31:19.320 --> 1:31:21.280 it real quick, and I'll leave it alone. I don't 1:31:21.280 --> 1:31:23.280 want to dominate it. But since I said what I 1:31:23.360 --> 1:31:26.680 said about people listening in weird places, Yeah, shouts out 1:31:26.720 --> 1:31:33.720 to the Netherlands, Sweden, Madrid leads, London, Australia. We got 1:31:33.800 --> 1:31:37.519 a Bangkok Thailand, Bangkok Thailand and everybody in the US. 1:31:37.560 --> 1:31:40.879 I've gotten Honolulu, I've gotten Wisconsin, I've gotten San Diego. 1:31:41.520 --> 1:31:44.240 You guys are awesome. Way to go all along though, 1:31:44.760 --> 1:31:46.600 sorry to interrupt you, Bill, let's pick his in. But 1:31:47.720 --> 1:31:49.840 Wayne's all along though. We've felt like it's going to 1:31:49.880 --> 1:31:52.840 be a corner here. I mean that's been I'd say 1:31:52.880 --> 1:31:54.760 the two that are I mean you hear Waynes to 1:31:54.840 --> 1:31:57.120 Minnesota and you hear Danny Shelton to Cleveland, which is 1:31:57.160 --> 1:31:59.200 back to back right here, and I'd feel like those 1:31:59.280 --> 1:32:01.760 picks have very every time you look at their depth 1:32:01.840 --> 1:32:04.160 chart and Terrence Newman is penciled in it, Yeah, every 1:32:04.280 --> 1:32:06.720 every time you look at every time you've looked at 1:32:06.760 --> 1:32:09.640 a depth chart that somebody at CBS has done. You know, 1:32:09.720 --> 1:32:13.040 we didn't do any of the big depth chart excuse me, 1:32:13.200 --> 1:32:16.360 uh mock drafts, but every time it was Waynes, everybody 1:32:16.439 --> 1:32:19.040 had Waynes going at this spot, right, and the Vikings 1:32:19.080 --> 1:32:21.080 I've shown a lot of interest in Waynes. They worked 1:32:21.160 --> 1:32:22.800 him out there at his pro day. I mean they 1:32:22.920 --> 1:32:24.800 they've really done a lot of work on here. Just 1:32:24.880 --> 1:32:26.120 to give you a little bit of ideal, let me 1:32:26.160 --> 1:32:28.960 look at some of the other corners. Jalen Collins was 1:32:29.000 --> 1:32:32.559 a guy that they visited. Uh, let's see who else. 1:32:32.960 --> 1:32:36.160 Waynes was a guy they visited coming up the board. Uh, 1:32:37.040 --> 1:32:40.840 Marcus Peters was a potential first round guy that they 1:32:41.040 --> 1:32:44.839 visited as well. It's something else to consider playing in Minnesota. 1:32:44.880 --> 1:32:46.840 You have to be able to play in cold weather. Okay, 1:32:47.040 --> 1:32:50.120 and especially now, well one more years, one more year. 1:32:50.320 --> 1:32:51.800 But did you go to Green Bay? You go to 1:32:51.920 --> 1:32:55.680 Chicago exactly that division. But he understands it's here. He 1:32:55.720 --> 1:32:57.680 grew up in Wisconsin. That's a good point. Went to 1:32:57.760 --> 1:33:00.040 Michigan State. He's a big ten player. He knows it 1:33:00.280 --> 1:33:01.840 was like the playing that the mistake we made in 1:33:01.960 --> 1:33:04.400 Green Bay with Terrell Buckley a long time ago in 1:33:04.520 --> 1:33:08.280 nineteen ninety two, with Troy Vincent on the board, we 1:33:08.439 --> 1:33:11.040 took a player that wasn't used to playing in cold 1:33:11.080 --> 1:33:13.720 weather at Florida State. Yeah, but don't don't take any 1:33:13.800 --> 1:33:17.439 kids out of the EU if you're in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Yeah, 1:33:17.760 --> 1:33:19.720 but this this seems like to me. Initially we said 1:33:19.760 --> 1:33:22.439 it was it was waynes I mean, yeah, that's really 1:33:22.520 --> 1:33:26.080 been the makes sense. It's it's uh talking about one 1:33:26.080 --> 1:33:28.639 of the best players available at that point, all things 1:33:28.720 --> 1:33:32.559 point today. Describe the player. You're tall, lanky, a little 1:33:32.720 --> 1:33:35.800 a little leaner than you want, but he uses his length. Well, 1:33:36.120 --> 1:33:38.280 he's tough, he'll hit you at the line of scrimmage. 1:33:38.320 --> 1:33:42.760 He loves the jam um and he's he's strong too. Yeah, 1:33:43.280 --> 1:33:46.360 he's fast. He knows he's fast too because he'll leave 1:33:46.360 --> 1:33:48.040 a little bit of a cushion because he knows he 1:33:48.080 --> 1:33:49.680 can make it up. Or you see him at the 1:33:49.720 --> 1:33:52.640 combine at forty, well you could. He was fly. We 1:33:52.760 --> 1:33:54.240 watched it in the in the in the in the 1:33:54.439 --> 1:33:57.000 in the our office there and the commissioners going to 1:33:57.040 --> 1:34:00.560 the podium. Now, but yeah, that easy. That was the 1:34:00.640 --> 1:34:05.480 eleventh pick in the twenty fifteen NFL drafts, the Minnesota 1:34:05.600 --> 1:34:12.160 Vikings select Trey Wayne. Yeah, there we go back on track. Yeah, 1:34:12.680 --> 1:34:15.559 Trey Wayne's out of Michigan State, six foot one hundred 1:34:15.640 --> 1:34:18.360 eighty six pounder, is a Minnesota Viking, the team with 1:34:18.520 --> 1:34:20.760 Xavier Rhodes their other Quium Shocked that we have not 1:34:20.840 --> 1:34:24.439 seen a trade yet. Shocked Cleveland is up Cleveland with 1:34:24.560 --> 1:34:28.679 two picks here, twelve and nineteen coming up. Hey, Brian, 1:34:28.760 --> 1:34:31.040 you've been there before, and you think the Miami Dolphins 1:34:31.080 --> 1:34:34.160 are just pissed off right now? I would have thrown 1:34:34.240 --> 1:34:35.840 my pin by now. Yeah, yeah, I think so. I 1:34:35.880 --> 1:34:38.560 would have thrown my pin. Yeah, and I think that 1:34:38.800 --> 1:34:42.960 to me though, there's still some outstanding players on the board. Oh, 1:34:43.000 --> 1:34:45.519 of course you got it, But but you're in the 1:34:45.600 --> 1:34:47.560 middle of the board. You're a little bit at the 1:34:48.000 --> 1:34:50.760 guy that you really were probably set on just got 1:34:50.840 --> 1:34:53.439 taken out from under you, right, So yeah, I think 1:34:53.479 --> 1:34:55.840 you have to be a little bit of a little 1:34:56.000 --> 1:34:58.200 upset by that. But you know, hey, you know, you 1:34:58.479 --> 1:35:01.439 just take the next guy there and go and go 1:35:01.600 --> 1:35:04.920 that route. For those who are unable to watch on 1:35:05.040 --> 1:35:08.080 television as they listen on line, let me recap what's 1:35:08.120 --> 1:35:10.960 happened so far as we are through eleven picks. Tampa 1:35:11.040 --> 1:35:14.799 Bay took Jamis Winston quarterback Florida State, Tennessee, Marcus Mariota 1:35:14.880 --> 1:35:19.479 quarterback Oregon Jacksonville at number three, took Dante Fowler number four. 1:35:19.600 --> 1:35:22.519 Oakland took him Ari Cooper, the wide receiver from Alabama. 1:35:22.640 --> 1:35:27.960 Brandon Shurf, tackle or guard from Iowa, went to Washington. Five. 1:35:28.560 --> 1:35:31.880 Leonard Williams number six to the Jets, the defensive tackle 1:35:31.920 --> 1:35:35.679 out of USC He can play anywhere along the defensive line. 1:35:35.760 --> 1:35:39.000 Kevin White, wide receiver, West Virginia to Chicago at seven, 1:35:39.360 --> 1:35:44.240 Atlanta at eight, pick Vic Beasley from Clemson Giants at nine, 1:35:44.640 --> 1:35:47.680 Eric Flowers the tackle from Miami. Tide Gurley running back 1:35:47.720 --> 1:35:51.120 Georgia to Saint Louis and Minnesota. Trey Waynes out of 1:35:51.200 --> 1:35:54.280 Michigan State to cornerback. Now it's Cleveland. Great point though 1:35:54.320 --> 1:35:57.479 about Waynes and being a Midwest kid and bring in 1:35:57.520 --> 1:36:00.240 those conditions and knowing how to play outdoors. I think 1:36:00.280 --> 1:36:02.759 that really is a great point about speaking of Midwest. 1:36:02.960 --> 1:36:07.200 Browns are up, Cleveland. You're an Ohio guy, this is 1:36:07.280 --> 1:36:11.360 your this is your team. And disappointment the last corn 1:36:11.479 --> 1:36:13.760 Ye fortunately a couple of years. Well I'm just talking 1:36:13.760 --> 1:36:16.720 about the last year's draft. Not really fruitful like when 1:36:16.760 --> 1:36:20.160 you have two twenty eight years I've been on this earth. Yeah, Okay, 1:36:20.200 --> 1:36:24.599 and we know they need defense. Dy Dave was talking 1:36:24.600 --> 1:36:26.600 about Danny Shelton here. I mean there's two Would you 1:36:26.640 --> 1:36:29.400 see Danny Shelton at the Senior Bowl, remember, Oh yeah, 1:36:29.479 --> 1:36:31.000 he was one of the stars of the Senior Bowl. 1:36:31.000 --> 1:36:32.320 I mean, he was one of the big names going 1:36:32.360 --> 1:36:35.639 in there. It's just it's funny because I mean there's 1:36:35.640 --> 1:36:37.680 been there's two lines of logic, and it's either that 1:36:37.960 --> 1:36:40.760 Cleveland does something crazy to go get Marcus Mariota, which 1:36:40.800 --> 1:36:43.400 they have not done, or they take Danny Shelton at twelve. 1:36:43.439 --> 1:36:45.920 I mean, those are the two. If you're the Browns, 1:36:46.000 --> 1:36:48.040 you're sitting here at Vante Parker still on the board, 1:36:48.360 --> 1:36:50.160 you have a chance to get a potential. Don't have Fever, 1:36:50.280 --> 1:36:53.120 don't have Josh Gordon, Dwayne Bows not enough for me 1:36:53.240 --> 1:36:56.680 to pass on a receiver. But Danny Shelton, he's that 1:36:56.760 --> 1:36:59.920 two gapping nose tackle, perfect fit for Mike Petton's defense. Yeah, 1:37:00.240 --> 1:37:01.800 I can't see him pass. You get a guy like 1:37:01.960 --> 1:37:04.320 that like to me, like kre and the Vince Wilfork. 1:37:04.600 --> 1:37:07.360 This guy controls the middle exactly. I mean he you 1:37:07.479 --> 1:37:09.680 watch him, and that's down the line. He's not this 1:37:09.840 --> 1:37:13.639 big slug. He plays sideline to sidelines. He could blow 1:37:13.760 --> 1:37:15.360 up the field. And this is I mean, this is 1:37:15.400 --> 1:37:17.720 a Rex Ryan disciple. I have a hard time to leave. 1:37:17.720 --> 1:37:19.920 And they're not going to take Shelton. Yeah, I think Shelton. 1:37:20.080 --> 1:37:22.960 I would not I would not say. I don't think 1:37:23.320 --> 1:37:26.400 the fact that they got to pick seven picks later. Yeah, 1:37:26.479 --> 1:37:28.080 I mean you could. You could have a little You 1:37:28.120 --> 1:37:30.599 could get your boy jail and strong. You could get good, 1:37:30.680 --> 1:37:32.400 you know, I mean you could get a weapon. But 1:37:32.520 --> 1:37:35.240 you gotta do something in the middle of this defense though, yeah, 1:37:35.760 --> 1:37:38.320 you know. And the worst run defense in the league 1:37:38.360 --> 1:37:40.439 in twenty fourteen. Correct, Oh, yeah, it was bad. It 1:37:40.680 --> 1:37:43.479 was bad. Levion Bell running all over that front seven, 1:37:43.520 --> 1:37:48.240 no brainer in that division two. Yeah, oh, you gotta play. 1:37:48.360 --> 1:37:50.080 I mean you gotta play Bell, you gotta play Hill 1:37:50.160 --> 1:37:52.719 and been Bernard, you gotta play playing in bad weather. 1:37:53.040 --> 1:37:54.680 But you can't rule up Bud Dupre as well. I 1:37:54.720 --> 1:37:57.000 think that's another name they've looked at. They need a 1:37:57.000 --> 1:38:00.519 pass rusher. Mingo hasn't exactly been that pass rush they've 1:38:00.520 --> 1:38:03.880 been looking for. So those three names DeVante Parker, Budd Depre, 1:38:04.080 --> 1:38:06.840 Danny Shelton. But again we keep going back to Danny Shelton. 1:38:07.280 --> 1:38:11.040 That nose tackle. Um, we talk about some nose tackles 1:38:11.080 --> 1:38:13.200 that have been taken early in the past, guys like 1:38:13.320 --> 1:38:17.840 dj Raji, Vince will Folk. I think, you know, Shelton's 1:38:17.920 --> 1:38:20.600 more along the lines of more athletic. I think for 1:38:21.040 --> 1:38:23.400 a big man with the measurables, Bill, do you the 1:38:23.439 --> 1:38:25.360 forty time throw it out? I don't care. I don't 1:38:25.400 --> 1:38:27.519 care what the forty times I've seen him make plays 1:38:27.560 --> 1:38:30.639 outside outside the hashes. But I know he can push 1:38:30.720 --> 1:38:33.240 the pocket. I know he can hold up. He was 1:38:33.280 --> 1:38:35.760 a three down player for the Huskies. He played, he 1:38:35.880 --> 1:38:38.280 never came off the field. No, you're right about that. 1:38:38.360 --> 1:38:41.120 They were the last team in the rush defense in 1:38:41.160 --> 1:38:44.920 twenty fourteen. From a scouting standpoint, I've heard some people, 1:38:45.000 --> 1:38:47.759 I think Pat Kerwin and talks about the explosion number, 1:38:48.000 --> 1:38:51.000 which is you combine the bench reps with the vertical 1:38:51.120 --> 1:38:54.240 with the broad and if you have an over a 1:38:54.479 --> 1:38:59.160 seventy total of those those numbers there, then you typically 1:38:59.280 --> 1:39:02.320 win at the line a scrimmage. That's way Kerwin puts it. Anyway, 1:39:02.360 --> 1:39:05.160 thirty four bench reps plus a thirty and a half 1:39:05.280 --> 1:39:08.720 vertical plus a seven eleven broad up equals seventy one 1:39:09.120 --> 1:39:12.240 and so he wins at the line of scrimmage. Danny Shelton. Yeah, 1:39:12.560 --> 1:39:14.640 it just makes too much sense for a team that 1:39:14.840 --> 1:39:20.599 needs Again they talk about talk about outside linebacker, rushers, 1:39:20.880 --> 1:39:24.720 interior defensive line, offensive line, as well as the three 1:39:24.840 --> 1:39:27.879 needs for the Browns. I dogged on the U earlier. 1:39:28.240 --> 1:39:31.479 Washington got studs all over your defense. Where's the where 1:39:31.560 --> 1:39:34.439 the results? I mean, you got Shelton Pete watching offensive 1:39:34.840 --> 1:39:37.040 they kick Peters off the team for I guess that's yeah. 1:39:37.040 --> 1:39:38.960 Do you watch the offensive tape and then play? I 1:39:39.080 --> 1:39:43.160 don't believe I did. That's why nobody and that's why Jake, 1:39:43.880 --> 1:39:45.760 you know, play if it's funny though. In the Pac 1:39:45.840 --> 1:39:49.240 twelve though, really nobody plays defense. I'm sorry if I'm 1:39:49.280 --> 1:39:51.720 throwing somebody out in just always a lot of us. Yeah, 1:39:51.760 --> 1:39:54.280 but it seemed like to me that that a lot 1:39:54.360 --> 1:39:58.200 of times those spread offenses that can neutralize talent on 1:39:58.280 --> 1:40:02.360 a defense. Yeah. Absolutely, yeah. I again, I just don't 1:40:02.400 --> 1:40:05.680 feel like that that this any any other pick than 1:40:05.920 --> 1:40:09.240 than Shelton. I just don't see. I mean, it could 1:40:09.280 --> 1:40:12.960 be the pre you know, an outside linebacker that that 1:40:13.160 --> 1:40:15.320 is a rush I mean, and that's I feel that's 1:40:15.360 --> 1:40:17.519 why he's been there and like maybe they think the 1:40:17.600 --> 1:40:20.000 prix is gonna be there at nineteen. He put the 1:40:20.040 --> 1:40:22.640 way things slide in the board. Who has This is 1:40:22.680 --> 1:40:26.320 sort of like the where versus Marcus Spears debate from 1:40:26.400 --> 1:40:29.800 two thousand and five, which which player has a better 1:40:29.920 --> 1:40:32.280 chance of being there? In that case, it was where 1:40:32.360 --> 1:40:36.200 win at eleven Spears at twenty. There was some person 1:40:36.280 --> 1:40:38.800 in the room who fought Spears should be the pick 1:40:38.840 --> 1:40:42.280 at eleven, and later he's sitting right now, remember who 1:40:42.400 --> 1:40:47.080 that person? Yeah, Bill Parcels picks there, guys, there's a 1:40:47.160 --> 1:40:50.080 team down in my hometown that can pick. In the 1:40:50.160 --> 1:40:56.840 two thousand NFL Draft, the Cleveland Brown select Danny Shelton. Yeah, 1:40:56.880 --> 1:40:59.240 there you go. I just it just made too much sense. 1:40:59.320 --> 1:41:01.559 Yeah it did. I'll tell you what, I don't think 1:41:01.560 --> 1:41:03.559 I've ever had a better start in my mock draft. 1:41:04.040 --> 1:41:06.040 You're so proud about the mock draft. I am, and 1:41:06.080 --> 1:41:08.320 I don't care. I really don't care. Eight of twelve. 1:41:08.360 --> 1:41:10.760 I'll take Forbes Magazine said they need to follow you 1:41:10.840 --> 1:41:13.799 on Twitter. Right, this is how he makes oh, Forbes 1:41:13.880 --> 1:41:18.560 Magazine twenty three best Twitter followers. During the inter this 1:41:18.720 --> 1:41:22.080 is how. This is how the man makes his money 1:41:22.479 --> 1:41:27.160 to Oh he's so proud, gonay he goes, Oh my 1:41:27.640 --> 1:41:30.240 my life, get in now. And Forbes magazine said, I'm 1:41:30.320 --> 1:41:32.120 I'm quitting now, I'm done. This is my last draft. 1:41:32.200 --> 1:41:34.559 There's another one on top. There's another list you really 1:41:34.600 --> 1:41:37.160 want to be on from Forbes though exactly, I always 1:41:37.160 --> 1:41:40.040 thought I wanted j j. Yeah. If I put ten 1:41:40.080 --> 1:41:42.679 months into putting this big thing together, I'd be pretty 1:41:42.720 --> 1:41:44.559 proud of myself. No, we're happy to have you here. 1:41:45.280 --> 1:41:49.920 Dane Brugler, CBS Sports and the Draft Show. Brian brought 1:41:50.040 --> 1:41:54.400 us David Hellman. I'm Bill Jones, and we are now 1:41:54.479 --> 1:41:57.840 to pick number thirteen, the New Orleans Saints. You want 1:41:57.840 --> 1:42:00.280 talked to in the first Well, hometown boy, let's get it. 1:42:00.320 --> 1:42:02.280 What do you got? I mean, Grant, I spend all 1:42:02.320 --> 1:42:04.479 my time covering the Cowboys. Yeah, I'm not going to 1:42:04.520 --> 1:42:06.519 sit here and pretend like I'm an expert about the Saints, 1:42:06.560 --> 1:42:09.120 but I know they need they need an edge rusher, 1:42:09.880 --> 1:42:12.040 and we were just talking about one who's sitting there. 1:42:13.400 --> 1:42:15.679 You know, honestly, I thought Lall Collins to the Saints 1:42:15.760 --> 1:42:18.480 was a really good bet until all of that unfortunateness 1:42:19.000 --> 1:42:21.080 came up in his way. I don't think that's a word. 1:42:21.160 --> 1:42:23.880 I was not. That's something that I would say. Uh 1:42:24.200 --> 1:42:27.320 so when you take that, I mean they like I 1:42:27.400 --> 1:42:30.160 might use it later on. They need oline, they need 1:42:30.240 --> 1:42:32.800 a pass rusher. They could use a weapon for Drew 1:42:32.840 --> 1:42:34.800 Brees to play with now that Jimmy Graham is gone 1:42:35.000 --> 1:42:38.240 and they also traded away Kenny still. Yes, yes, and 1:42:38.320 --> 1:42:40.200 they have a lot of picks to address all that with. 1:42:40.280 --> 1:42:41.800 They got two in this round, they got two in 1:42:41.880 --> 1:42:44.200 the third, so they I think they pick five times 1:42:44.240 --> 1:42:46.400 in the first eighty picks, which is not and so 1:42:46.520 --> 1:42:48.400 we know they're taking Bryce Petty at thirty one. So 1:42:48.560 --> 1:42:52.200 if it's a defense here, is that where we're looking 1:42:52.360 --> 1:42:54.599 any chance at a DeVante Parker offense? Do you think 1:42:54.680 --> 1:42:57.479 strictly defense? I think it could be. I think it 1:42:57.520 --> 1:42:59.719 could be. There's a big there's a big, heavy defensive 1:42:59.760 --> 1:43:02.360 core in there that's fighting for a rusher. I mean, 1:43:02.840 --> 1:43:06.720 I'm outside. You got Drew Brees. I think he can. 1:43:06.800 --> 1:43:08.400 I mean he can make it work. He won a 1:43:08.439 --> 1:43:11.439 Super Bowl with Deverie Henderson, Robert Meetcham, and Jeremy Shockey. 1:43:11.680 --> 1:43:15.439 Quick question though off our off at the Draft show page. 1:43:16.080 --> 1:43:18.840 Sarah wants to do you think that Gordon is now 1:43:18.920 --> 1:43:21.400 going to go sooner because of Girly being picked so high. 1:43:22.600 --> 1:43:25.120 I don't. I don't think it really changes anything. I 1:43:25.200 --> 1:43:27.120 think there's a handful of teams that want a running 1:43:27.120 --> 1:43:30.600 back in the first round, and I mean we're I 1:43:30.680 --> 1:43:33.599 think you know you're Miami is a spot, San Diego 1:43:33.680 --> 1:43:35.519 is a spot. We always thought those were spots where 1:43:35.600 --> 1:43:38.120 running backs could go. And then you talk Arizona and 1:43:38.200 --> 1:43:41.000 Detroit in the twenties. So I don't think it really 1:43:41.680 --> 1:43:45.200 another one. Yeah, I don't think anybody's gonna change their 1:43:45.240 --> 1:43:47.320 game plan based on win Girley win, because I think 1:43:47.360 --> 1:43:49.640 everybody assumed Girley was gonna go all right. Back in 1:43:49.720 --> 1:43:52.120 that room, the draft room, which we cannot look into 1:43:52.360 --> 1:43:55.439 right now, deal guys, Gordon the guy, if there was 1:43:55.479 --> 1:43:57.439 a running back that they would consider in the first 1:43:57.520 --> 1:43:59.800 round as Gordon together, Yeah, I think so too. I mean, 1:44:00.000 --> 1:44:02.880 are we getting to a point in time where we 1:44:03.120 --> 1:44:06.400 we throughout some ideas on the Draft show about would 1:44:06.439 --> 1:44:09.240 you be willing to go up? And maybe maybe some 1:44:09.400 --> 1:44:13.240 people maybe going up might not be yeh, but maybe 1:44:13.280 --> 1:44:15.920 going up might not be as expensive Now maybe there's 1:44:15.960 --> 1:44:18.080 a few more guys that are starting to fall down 1:44:18.160 --> 1:44:20.639 the board that teams are saying. You know what, I'm 1:44:20.680 --> 1:44:22.960 willing to go back a little bit. How high are 1:44:23.000 --> 1:44:26.240 you willing to go? Well, I don't know. I think 1:44:26.320 --> 1:44:28.240 he's got it in order for me to even start 1:44:28.320 --> 1:44:29.880 thinking about a trade. I think he's got a fall 1:44:29.920 --> 1:44:32.080 past San Diego at seventeen. Yeah, which is not I 1:44:32.080 --> 1:44:35.719 don't think it's out of the realm of possibility. The Saints, 1:44:36.360 --> 1:44:39.040 when we talked about them, let's focus on pick is 1:44:39.040 --> 1:44:41.439 in for whatever. Okay, Well, what about though, on the 1:44:41.560 --> 1:44:44.360 offensive side of the ball. They need a lineman the 1:44:44.920 --> 1:44:47.479 tackle end, don't I mean? I think they need a guard. 1:44:47.840 --> 1:44:50.160 They let go of Ben Grubs, they sent him, they 1:44:50.240 --> 1:44:52.640 traded him to Kansas City. Yeah, free agency, can you 1:44:52.680 --> 1:44:55.640 pass on a talent like which? Great? I mean? And 1:44:55.880 --> 1:44:57.880 there's Parker. I don't think a tackle would be bad either. 1:44:57.920 --> 1:45:00.000 They got Zach Streef, who's getting up there. He's getting 1:45:00.000 --> 1:45:03.679 along in the tooth uh Toron Armstead as their left tackle. 1:45:03.760 --> 1:45:05.519 I think guard would death of me. Need they talked 1:45:05.560 --> 1:45:08.720 about that's I thought. Outside Russia, we talked about the 1:45:08.840 --> 1:45:11.560 talk about receiver, talked about tight end as well. I 1:45:11.720 --> 1:45:13.680 don't think they. I think they like the guys they 1:45:13.720 --> 1:45:15.840 have on the roster at tight end, honestly, I mean 1:45:15.920 --> 1:45:18.080 not enough that they're gonna draft Max Williams. Could they 1:45:18.120 --> 1:45:21.320 could they? Could they wow you with something that Again, 1:45:21.400 --> 1:45:23.760 this is to me Sean Payton's kind of a little 1:45:23.800 --> 1:45:26.120 bit of a loose. He loves those guys stuff. He 1:45:26.320 --> 1:45:28.439 likes to take guys that nobody's ever heard of. That's 1:45:28.479 --> 1:45:30.360 his favor, not take somebody. But I mean because we're 1:45:30.400 --> 1:45:33.280 in the first round though, but you mentioned offensive tackle, 1:45:33.320 --> 1:45:35.439 wouldn't surprise me. Keep in mind in the first round 1:45:35.520 --> 1:45:38.000 last year they took a wide receiver in Brandon Crook. Yeah, 1:45:38.200 --> 1:45:40.800 I mean they have Cooks Colston Man. You miss him 1:45:40.840 --> 1:45:45.240 watching that tape? Well, he smokes. I just but you 1:45:45.320 --> 1:45:48.760 pre seems very much a pick here. It wouldn't, but 1:45:48.960 --> 1:45:52.360 it wouldn't be surprised if something wild happened them, really 1:45:52.400 --> 1:45:55.360 would I mean? And by the way, what they have 1:45:55.680 --> 1:45:59.599 an outside linebacker in New Orleans is Anthony Spencer. Yes, 1:46:00.040 --> 1:46:03.559 and moving back to him, I would say Budd Dupree 1:46:03.720 --> 1:46:06.200 is a pick here. I'm not counting on Anthony Spencer 1:46:06.439 --> 1:46:08.160 to be much of anything. I'm just saying, this is 1:46:08.200 --> 1:46:10.160 a time when we start talking about Randy Gregory being 1:46:10.160 --> 1:46:11.960 a possibility. We knew he was going to probably fall 1:46:12.000 --> 1:46:14.439 at that top ten good point, but now we get 1:46:14.479 --> 1:46:16.719 to the middle part of the first round, Randy Gregory 1:46:16.800 --> 1:46:19.200 starts to maybe be worth it. And so I've never 1:46:19.320 --> 1:46:21.479 met him out, I've never met Rob Ryan, but he 1:46:21.560 --> 1:46:24.040 doesn't strike me as the type to care about Shane Ray, 1:46:25.040 --> 1:46:30.600 about Ray horse of a different color? What do we do? 1:46:30.720 --> 1:46:33.400 We think probably the twenties is where we feel like 1:46:33.680 --> 1:46:35.599 Ray is going to be. Where do you possibility? Where 1:46:35.600 --> 1:46:37.559 do you feel best about Ray? Four three or three 1:46:37.640 --> 1:46:39.720 four four three? Yeah? To me, he's an end. That's 1:46:39.760 --> 1:46:41.840 kind of what I think too. I don't really see 1:46:41.920 --> 1:46:44.000 him for the same Gregory you see standing up being 1:46:44.160 --> 1:46:48.519 a loose fluid to playing space where where Ray hit 1:46:48.880 --> 1:46:51.880 his best asset first step getting up the field. Not 1:46:52.040 --> 1:46:54.479 someone necessarily you want in space, doesn't have that change 1:46:54.520 --> 1:46:58.040 of direction that you want. So how does Gregory compare 1:46:58.080 --> 1:47:04.120 to Vic Beasley? Bigger, longer, Um, maybe I see more. 1:47:04.400 --> 1:47:06.599 I don't think he wins the corner as much. Yeah, 1:47:06.760 --> 1:47:09.840 he doesn't have that you get off necessarily, But yeah, 1:47:10.160 --> 1:47:12.280 I mean Gregory is he's he has a lot of 1:47:12.360 --> 1:47:15.160 what Beasley has athletically, just in a different body type. 1:47:16.000 --> 1:47:18.280 With Gregory, it comes down to how much weight can 1:47:18.320 --> 1:47:20.400 you put on him? And can he sustain that weight? 1:47:20.960 --> 1:47:24.200 Is it good weight? Is it? Uh, not only bulk 1:47:24.280 --> 1:47:28.120 but muscle functional strength. So those are the questions obviously 1:47:28.640 --> 1:47:30.800 on the field. Now off the field, we have other 1:47:30.920 --> 1:47:34.600 questions with Gregory, A lot of questions. Yeah, I was 1:47:34.840 --> 1:47:37.439 going back to dupris um. We thought he a player 1:47:37.520 --> 1:47:39.360 that could go as high as six to the Jets. 1:47:39.760 --> 1:47:43.040 He's still on the board here at thirteen. You know, 1:47:43.320 --> 1:47:48.120 in a three to four dupri left side, I would say, yeah, 1:47:48.120 --> 1:47:49.600 I would say you could probably put him on the 1:47:49.720 --> 1:47:51.880 on the left side and let him go. But but 1:47:52.120 --> 1:47:56.479 you got but you do have Anthon Spencer. Spencer made 1:47:56.640 --> 1:47:58.560 Ye made a Pro Bowl playing as a as a 1:47:58.680 --> 1:48:02.880 left outside a line a strong linebacker here. So I 1:48:02.960 --> 1:48:07.599 don't know. I mean, I just rob Ryan I think 1:48:07.720 --> 1:48:10.479 carries a big stick. Yeah, but I could also see 1:48:10.560 --> 1:48:15.120 Sean Payton basically saying, you know, Drew Brees. Drew Brees 1:48:15.160 --> 1:48:19.640 has been very vocal about losing offensive player. Am I 1:48:19.800 --> 1:48:21.840 am I correct about that? I'm seeing a lot of 1:48:21.920 --> 1:48:26.720 Twitter chatters, maybe Pete is the pick here. I'm not sure. Thick. 1:48:27.280 --> 1:48:32.240 In the twenty fifteen NFL Draft, did New Orleans Saints 1:48:32.320 --> 1:48:42.040 select Andrews Pete Steel at thirteen? Did you have him 1:48:42.080 --> 1:48:46.280 mocked at the Saints at thirteen? Uh no, No, not 1:48:46.479 --> 1:48:49.439 a chance, not a chance. I did have him top 1:48:49.479 --> 1:48:51.320 ten though, I had him ten to the Rams. Brian 1:48:51.479 --> 1:48:54.840 not a fan, I'm not. I'm not, you know, but 1:48:54.920 --> 1:48:57.240 he was in my top fifty. A second round player 1:48:57.240 --> 1:48:59.000 for you. I had him as a second round player. 1:48:59.320 --> 1:49:03.280 I think the one of those soft Stanford tackles. Well, 1:49:03.320 --> 1:49:07.000 the problem the thing about him outstanding getting away from 1:49:07.040 --> 1:49:10.400 the line. He you you could see the kick to slide, 1:49:10.640 --> 1:49:14.519 the punch, you see that. The run blocking stuff, I 1:49:14.600 --> 1:49:16.720 saw a guy that was heavy legged. Though as far 1:49:16.800 --> 1:49:18.800 as run blocking, I saw a guy that was on 1:49:18.880 --> 1:49:21.200 the ground a lot. I really wasn't you know. The 1:49:21.320 --> 1:49:25.479 sustain there's there's Stanford offensive tackles in linemen that they 1:49:25.520 --> 1:49:27.080 would get in there, they get the hold of the 1:49:27.160 --> 1:49:30.040 guys and they finish. I didn't see a great finisher 1:49:30.160 --> 1:49:33.559 here that that that bothered me. Against some some really 1:49:33.720 --> 1:49:36.000 some good talent in the past in the U in 1:49:36.080 --> 1:49:38.960 the Pac twelve and I just saw but the pass 1:49:39.000 --> 1:49:41.080 blocking stuff when he could kick and get out, and 1:49:41.680 --> 1:49:44.840 he's got that link to hold guys off. But I 1:49:44.960 --> 1:49:46.960 worried about him and the running in being a strong 1:49:47.320 --> 1:49:49.720 point of attack. That's that's interesting though. I mean, you 1:49:49.840 --> 1:49:51.800 just you brought mark Ingram back. He had a Pro 1:49:51.880 --> 1:49:54.720 Bowl year, Drew Brees a lot like Tony Romo. You 1:49:54.800 --> 1:49:56.840 probably figure you got a maximum of three or four 1:49:56.960 --> 1:49:59.240 more years to try to win with him. You lose 1:49:59.360 --> 1:50:01.640 Jimmy Graham. Now you've got a first round tackle and 1:50:01.800 --> 1:50:04.800 you got Max Hunger who was not not bad, not 1:50:05.000 --> 1:50:08.200 bad anchor in that offensive line. So I don't I 1:50:08.240 --> 1:50:10.600 don't have a problem with it. I don't works for me. 1:50:10.680 --> 1:50:13.280 And we're gonna see these tackles. Yeah, you know we 1:50:13.479 --> 1:50:17.639 we We've seen Schurf go five, we saw Flowers go nine, 1:50:18.040 --> 1:50:20.720 and now we see h Pete go thirteen. So I 1:50:20.800 --> 1:50:23.280 had Humphries is a better player in my mind, and 1:50:23.560 --> 1:50:26.000 as Humphries was a second round player on my board 1:50:26.040 --> 1:50:29.519 as well. But I talked about Flowers, Humphrey, a Boohee 1:50:29.600 --> 1:50:33.120 and Pete were my second round offensive With Humphries, he 1:50:33.280 --> 1:50:36.320 might have the best feat in this direct among offensive 1:50:36.360 --> 1:50:39.639 linement with Pete. I see, you know, and they're showing 1:50:39.680 --> 1:50:41.680 some stuff in ANFL network right now that it just 1:50:41.800 --> 1:50:45.559 does not look promising for Pete. Nate Orchard be Yeah. 1:50:45.560 --> 1:50:47.160 I mean there's a lot of bad tape out there 1:50:47.200 --> 1:50:49.720 on Pete. But again, I think you look at what 1:50:50.200 --> 1:50:52.400 he needs to work on. It's fixable. To me. I 1:50:52.840 --> 1:50:55.360 really believe that he has what you can't teach with 1:50:55.520 --> 1:50:58.400 that that balanced, that body control. Um, you have a 1:50:58.439 --> 1:51:01.520 lot to work with their know how, these teams love bloodlines. 1:51:01.560 --> 1:51:03.320 Has dad played in the NFL for a long time? 1:51:03.400 --> 1:51:06.560 You see this play, Well, here's David Shaw's coach is 1:51:06.880 --> 1:51:08.920 on the panel here on the NFL network, And I'm 1:51:08.920 --> 1:51:12.320 sure David's giving you a great insight here we're trying 1:51:12.360 --> 1:51:15.240 to I think Dane's done a nice job. I he 1:51:15.400 --> 1:51:18.240 and I. That's one player and there's several players. If 1:51:18.280 --> 1:51:20.320 you if you're a fan of the Draft show, you 1:51:20.439 --> 1:51:22.600 know that we disagree on players. We've had guys that 1:51:22.640 --> 1:51:25.240 we've gone back and I respect his opinion because what 1:51:25.479 --> 1:51:28.880 he's saying, though, he's right, they're fixable things. But I'd 1:51:28.920 --> 1:51:31.160 just like to see a little bit better finish. I 1:51:31.200 --> 1:51:32.920 would like to not see him on the ground in 1:51:32.960 --> 1:51:36.679 the room, but I did compliment him on the past 1:51:36.800 --> 1:51:39.799 set and getting to that point. And you talked about 1:51:39.840 --> 1:51:42.240 the feet and he's gonna give a lot of time 1:51:42.320 --> 1:51:46.040 to pass set in New Orleans. And obviously Drew Brees 1:51:46.880 --> 1:51:51.080 a little disappointed by what's going on with losing some 1:51:51.200 --> 1:51:53.080 weapons and they got to find a way to protect him. Now, 1:51:53.120 --> 1:51:56.800 he probably got two minutes left before the Dolphins pick. Here, 1:51:57.000 --> 1:51:58.840 he's in a spot also a lot like we talked 1:51:58.840 --> 1:52:01.200 about with the tackle. Here, he's in a spot where 1:52:01.240 --> 1:52:03.280 he doesn't necessarily have to be the man right away, 1:52:03.360 --> 1:52:06.400 which is always I think good for a developing player. Yeah, 1:52:06.600 --> 1:52:11.200 um with uh the Miami Todd Gurley's not there, so 1:52:11.439 --> 1:52:14.320 you kind of miss out on that. But DeVante Parker 1:52:14.400 --> 1:52:18.000 is there and that's uh, that's a terrific This is 1:52:18.080 --> 1:52:21.880 Parker in my opinion. This way you look at the knee, Well, 1:52:21.920 --> 1:52:26.120 they traded for Kenny Stills and they signed Greg Jennings, 1:52:26.439 --> 1:52:31.400 but Jennings, this is this guy. Parker is Dez Bryant. 1:52:31.439 --> 1:52:33.920 When he catches the ball, he's a big man, he 1:52:34.080 --> 1:52:37.599 takes it. Okay, we're like we got movement, we got moving, 1:52:37.720 --> 1:52:42.840 we got moved, we got drafted. After we have war room. Hey, Jerry, 1:52:42.920 --> 1:52:44.840 Hey Stephen, Hey Ad Jason, So as you can see, 1:52:44.920 --> 1:52:48.720 we'll go to it and uh, finally and every time, 1:52:48.880 --> 1:52:51.160 so K Garrison's giving me the thumbs up. It looks 1:52:51.200 --> 1:52:53.479 like we've got an hour and forty minutes into the 1:52:53.560 --> 1:52:56.320 twenty fifteen draft and we have the feed. There you go, 1:52:56.680 --> 1:52:59.920 so all principles. I did not really like people live 1:53:00.080 --> 1:53:02.360 for this thing I've getting been getting blown up on me. 1:53:02.640 --> 1:53:06.000 They think that is more interesting. I know, I don't understand. 1:53:06.800 --> 1:53:10.800 You see the you see my color combo here see 1:53:10.840 --> 1:53:15.439 it now? So that's uh, Charlotte Jones, Anderson to the 1:53:15.680 --> 1:53:18.479 far left on the screen, of course, Jason Garrett, Jerry Jones, 1:53:18.720 --> 1:53:21.519 Steve Jow, Will McClay. They just took a seat. And yeah, 1:53:21.680 --> 1:53:24.320 you also got rich dalrymple in which you're not gonna 1:53:24.320 --> 1:53:26.919 be able to see anything. I didn't know this until recently. 1:53:27.200 --> 1:53:30.240 Um this this room behind them is Chris Hall's off right, 1:53:30.360 --> 1:53:33.320 which he basically is the head of college scouting. As 1:53:33.320 --> 1:53:35.519 you're looking at that's where the the the phone is. 1:53:35.760 --> 1:53:39.240 The back to Robert Blackwell in New York. So uh, 1:53:39.400 --> 1:53:41.439 they will. They will talk to Chris. They will yell 1:53:41.520 --> 1:53:44.160 from the table in through that hallway that where you 1:53:44.240 --> 1:53:47.400 see the window. Chris has his shades drawn right there. 1:53:47.479 --> 1:53:49.800 But they yelled to him and tell him the pick, 1:53:49.880 --> 1:53:53.800 and then he conveys it to Robert Blackwell, who then 1:53:54.080 --> 1:53:56.640 uh turns the card in. So it looks like that 1:53:56.800 --> 1:53:59.599 the uh that the Dolphins do have their picking. We've 1:53:59.640 --> 1:54:02.839 talked about this all along though. We think it's DeVante 1:54:02.920 --> 1:54:04.800 Parker here right. I see a J. Green. I see 1:54:04.840 --> 1:54:06.800 a player that plays above the rim. He can help 1:54:06.840 --> 1:54:10.040 you at all levels of the field. Um he man, 1:54:10.520 --> 1:54:12.880 He's not a J. Green, He's but he's a notch below. 1:54:12.920 --> 1:54:15.920 He's that type of style of receiver. And for the Dolphins, 1:54:16.320 --> 1:54:19.280 you lose Mike Wallace, you lose Brian Hartline, you gain 1:54:19.400 --> 1:54:22.040 Kenny Stills, you gain Greg Jennings, but you still need 1:54:22.120 --> 1:54:24.479 that number one guy, DeVante Parker's it. That is a 1:54:24.640 --> 1:54:28.000 pretty sexy receiver. Corps. If they do, in fact take 1:54:28.080 --> 1:54:30.000 Davante Parker, I mean you got him at the one. 1:54:30.640 --> 1:54:33.480 Stills as your deep threat, Jarvis Landry doing a little 1:54:33.480 --> 1:54:37.200 bit of everything inside and outside. Best hands ever, I 1:54:37.280 --> 1:54:39.240 think they don't have a really great running back. But 1:54:39.480 --> 1:54:42.520 this is my sixth best player on my top fifty. 1:54:43.160 --> 1:54:47.200 I can I just saw Dez Bryan in the open field. 1:54:47.200 --> 1:54:49.480 If if this is the pick, and you know, and 1:54:49.640 --> 1:54:52.200 Tanny Hill hits him on the move, you're gonna see 1:54:52.200 --> 1:54:55.240 a guy that's gonna run, but he's gonna make life miserable. 1:54:55.400 --> 1:54:57.720 He's like the Randy Moss just points up. Yeah, you know, 1:54:57.840 --> 1:55:00.080 I mean it's yeah, it's like it's just down on 1:55:00.160 --> 1:55:03.960 the field. It's it's running those inside routes, it's running slants, 1:55:04.240 --> 1:55:07.120 it's making tough plays. Kid plays the chip on it. 1:55:07.160 --> 1:55:10.880 And he's a big guy. Six two, you know, I 1:55:10.920 --> 1:55:14.560 mean six six two and a half, Yeah, exactly, ten Yeah, 1:55:14.720 --> 1:55:18.440 thirty three. I think the Dolphins, if they get guys 1:55:19.400 --> 1:55:21.120 in the corner, if this is a pick, if this 1:55:21.320 --> 1:55:24.080 is their pick, though they did, they got somebody that 1:55:24.200 --> 1:55:27.560 will go, that will help their quarterback and scores touchdowns. Yeah, 1:55:27.680 --> 1:55:30.760 he had a touchdown every four point seven catches in 1:55:30.840 --> 1:55:33.760 his career at Louisville. That's an outstanding ratio. It helps 1:55:33.760 --> 1:55:37.160 with Teddy Bridgewater as your quarterback too. Yeah, well what 1:55:37.280 --> 1:55:40.000 about two? And they also brought in Nelson Agyar. Now again, 1:55:40.120 --> 1:55:44.080 I'm just talking about receivers that you know, we've they've 1:55:44.320 --> 1:55:47.040 uh that they've looked at. But we we've been all 1:55:47.040 --> 1:55:50.000 along though. I'm just telling you though, that Agar is 1:55:50.000 --> 1:55:52.600 on a lot of boards. Could be a late one though, 1:55:52.640 --> 1:55:57.800 couldn't he? Dan fourteens? Rich? Yeah, but that's actually rich. Yeah. 1:55:57.880 --> 1:55:59.480 But I didn't think they were gonna take a I 1:55:59.560 --> 1:56:02.360 didn't think they would take Pete at thirteen. Yeah. Oh, 1:56:02.760 --> 1:56:04.360 I mean, if we're up to you, Pete would be 1:56:04.400 --> 1:56:07.600 going like thirty times. That's okay, that's all right. But 1:56:07.720 --> 1:56:11.000 Dean Parker though, I just love this guy. That's I mean, 1:56:11.280 --> 1:56:13.600 if you're and I mean the Dolphins are believers in 1:56:13.720 --> 1:56:18.160 Ryan Tannehill, Yeah, I mean weapons, load them up. You 1:56:18.240 --> 1:56:20.960 know you need weapons. Yeah, and we get all these players, 1:56:21.000 --> 1:56:23.400 So we're going to see this guy next year. I 1:56:23.520 --> 1:56:25.520 have to go see that. It's a great point. I 1:56:25.600 --> 1:56:28.040 have to go see back to back to back and 1:56:28.880 --> 1:56:35.720 Tannehill and Parker. Yeah, let's go. So Melvin Gordon, Yeah, 1:56:35.800 --> 1:56:38.160 but the highest rated players on my board, I could 1:56:38.200 --> 1:56:41.760 say we're Kevin Johnson, Bud Dupree, Byron john I mean, yeah, 1:56:41.800 --> 1:56:44.520 they they're down to this, this has got to be 1:56:45.000 --> 1:56:47.680 they just need a receiver. They need somebody. It looks 1:56:47.720 --> 1:56:50.280 like to me, let's see if the commissioner in fact 1:56:50.440 --> 1:56:53.400 is going to the podium, that's just that draft town 1:56:53.440 --> 1:56:55.560 that that that thing is cool like in uh and 1:56:55.760 --> 1:56:58.680 they said they had seventy nine thousand applicants to get 1:56:58.720 --> 1:57:01.400 in there. Here it goes wow, the commissioner. On the 1:57:02.240 --> 1:57:07.560 fourteenth pick in the twenty fifteen NFL Draft, the Miami 1:57:07.640 --> 1:57:15.280 Dolphins Selectant Parker. Yeah, wide receiver Louisville DeVante Parker out 1:57:15.320 --> 1:57:20.600 of Louisville six three two o nine. I got you, Okay, Yeah, 1:57:21.000 --> 1:57:23.960 you know I could say we h Parker's a guy, 1:57:24.040 --> 1:57:27.200 absolutely love him, and then find a way to uh, 1:57:27.960 --> 1:57:30.720 you know, use him. He's gonna help this receiver, help 1:57:30.800 --> 1:57:35.520 this quarterback a ton So yeah, outstanding pick. If you 1:57:35.600 --> 1:57:37.680 take a little break here for a minute or so, Yeah, 1:57:37.680 --> 1:57:41.160 absolutely got good. You know, it looks like San Francisco 1:57:41.320 --> 1:57:44.240 up next, the fifteenth pick, followed by Houston. We are 1:57:44.360 --> 1:57:47.680 still thirteen picks away from the Cowboys at twenty seven. 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And by the way, 2:00:09.360 --> 2:00:13.280 as you look live at the war room and what's 2:00:13.320 --> 2:00:16.240 going on in there, which is nothing right now, Nick 2:00:16.320 --> 2:00:19.760 Atman of Dallas Cowboys dot Com has joined us. Now, Nick, 2:00:19.800 --> 2:00:21.560 what do you think about the first half of the 2:00:21.640 --> 2:00:24.200 first round so far? It's kind of speeding up a 2:00:24.240 --> 2:00:27.560 little bit. It's uh, I don't wouldn't say there have 2:00:27.680 --> 2:00:30.160 been a lot of surprises, but I think they're starting 2:00:30.200 --> 2:00:32.760 to come now. We have our first surprise really with 2:00:32.800 --> 2:00:35.680 our first trade of the draft. Uh. The San Diego 2:00:35.840 --> 2:00:38.360 Chargers move up two spots, give up a fourth and 2:00:38.440 --> 2:00:41.879 a fifth to get that fifteenth pick with the Niners, 2:00:41.960 --> 2:00:45.480 and we think this has got to be that other 2:00:45.600 --> 2:00:49.080 running back, right, You would think that's kind of surprising 2:00:49.120 --> 2:00:50.480 to me that they I mean, I got a fourth 2:00:50.520 --> 2:00:53.200 and a fifth. Isn't super superstitious. They were worried about 2:00:53.240 --> 2:00:56.800 Houston at sixteen possibly going running back with Arian Foster. Yeah, 2:00:56.840 --> 2:01:01.640 but he's blue and yeah blue, Hey come on at LSU, 2:01:01.800 --> 2:01:05.840 come on. So Yeah, I mean, he's had injury problems. 2:01:05.880 --> 2:01:08.840 You got, you got a point. So this would be 2:01:09.400 --> 2:01:11.840 from an offensive standpoint. This would be if if Gordon 2:01:11.920 --> 2:01:14.880 does go off the board like you're suggesting, and it 2:01:15.000 --> 2:01:17.120 seems like this would be one of those guys that 2:01:17.200 --> 2:01:20.080 the Cowboys could have traded up for exactly. And you 2:01:20.160 --> 2:01:23.000 know that now with Gurley and Gordon gone, I mean, 2:01:23.040 --> 2:01:24.800 there's probably not going to be a running back that 2:01:24.880 --> 2:01:26.440 they want to take at twenty seven. I don't think 2:01:26.600 --> 2:01:28.760 I think this eliminates their first round running back. Here 2:01:28.840 --> 2:01:32.200 it comes as the commissioner with a Chargers selection Cisco 2:01:32.320 --> 2:01:35.400 forty nine ers have traded the fifteenth pick to the 2:01:35.520 --> 2:01:40.400 San Diego Chargers. With the fifteenth pick in the twenty 2:01:40.680 --> 2:01:46.560 fifteen NFL Draft, the San Diego Chargers select Melvin Gordon, 2:01:47.720 --> 2:01:51.760 running back Wisconsin. So there are two running backs off 2:01:51.800 --> 2:01:54.160 the board. Now Gurley went to Saint Louis at ten 2:01:54.360 --> 2:01:58.080 and now Melvin Gordon to San Diego at fifteen. How 2:01:58.120 --> 2:02:00.680 you feeling about your bold prediction there, Dane, Which one 2:02:00.880 --> 2:02:02.640 the one where you said they'd both be gone by 2:02:02.720 --> 2:02:04.800 twenty Oh? I guess I got one right, all right? 2:02:05.280 --> 2:02:07.840 One for five so far? Brookler has gotten several things 2:02:07.960 --> 2:02:11.320 right so far in this draft. Two drafts where there 2:02:11.360 --> 2:02:13.000 wasn't a running back taken in the first round, and 2:02:13.040 --> 2:02:15.920 now you got them both. So on Dallas Cowboys dot com, 2:02:16.360 --> 2:02:20.680 we have some I mean, in my defense, I mocked 2:02:20.720 --> 2:02:24.240 Melvin Gordon the Cowboys at twenty seven. In my analysis, 2:02:24.320 --> 2:02:26.080 I said, I really don't even think the Cowboys are 2:02:26.120 --> 2:02:28.120 gonna pick tonight, so maybe that can be my saving 2:02:28.720 --> 2:02:30.640 I kind of went the other way. I went the 2:02:30.680 --> 2:02:34.600 other way around. I actually had them taking a guy tomorrow. 2:02:34.640 --> 2:02:36.400 I mean, I don't know if that Shaq Thompson will 2:02:36.440 --> 2:02:39.800 be Oh, that's right. But I also said they could 2:02:39.880 --> 2:02:42.879 trade up for a guy like Gordon or Kevin Jon. 2:02:43.000 --> 2:02:45.520 We were saying before you came on, if they were 2:02:45.560 --> 2:02:47.280 going to do a deal for Gordon, I think it 2:02:47.360 --> 2:02:49.280 would have he would have had to have fallen to 2:02:49.400 --> 2:02:51.920 about at least eighteen or nineteen, and obviously that's not 2:02:52.040 --> 2:02:53.760 the case. I just think that the price is too 2:02:54.200 --> 2:02:57.160 let's clarify to guys, I'm filling in just for a second. 2:02:57.200 --> 2:03:00.960 Brian brought this is doing some other radio's a he's 2:03:00.960 --> 2:03:03.320 a man of many talents. Yeah, and so he will 2:03:03.360 --> 2:03:08.440 be back shortly and giving his analysis. But Dane, from 2:03:08.520 --> 2:03:12.440 just from a running back standpoint, from Melvin Gordon and Gurley, 2:03:13.120 --> 2:03:15.520 how different do you think they are? And from a 2:03:15.680 --> 2:03:18.640 talent level standpoint, I think we all agree that Todd 2:03:18.680 --> 2:03:20.640 Gurley was on a tier by himself in terms of 2:03:20.720 --> 2:03:22.880 running back talent in this class, but Melvin Gordon not 2:03:23.040 --> 2:03:25.320 far behind. And in a draft like this where we 2:03:25.360 --> 2:03:28.840 don't have those elite guys, talents like this are going 2:03:28.880 --> 2:03:30.480 to go high on the board. And so we haven't 2:03:30.520 --> 2:03:32.680 seen that running back two years in a row go 2:03:32.760 --> 2:03:35.120 in the first round. This year we have two in 2:03:35.160 --> 2:03:38.480 the top twenty with Melvin Gordon. Production speaks for itself, 2:03:38.840 --> 2:03:41.800 almost twenty six hundred yards last year. You just see 2:03:41.800 --> 2:03:45.760 it on film, the balance, the acceleration, it's elite. You 2:03:45.840 --> 2:03:49.960 see a little Jamal Charles there. So Todd Gurley an excellent, 2:03:50.040 --> 2:03:53.080 excellent player, but Melvin Gordon a little different, not too 2:03:53.160 --> 2:03:56.880 far off. So the Chargers they lost Ryan Matthews to 2:03:57.040 --> 2:04:00.240 free agency. Now at Philadelphia Eagle Melvin Gore and gets 2:04:00.240 --> 2:04:02.400 Philip Rivers in that offense a little bit of life. 2:04:02.480 --> 2:04:05.760 So now you go to what sixteen and Houston, this 2:04:06.000 --> 2:04:07.960 is all Right's safe to say the Cowboys now will 2:04:08.000 --> 2:04:09.680 not take a running back in the first round. I 2:04:09.800 --> 2:04:12.600 think that's six. I think you can bank that in. 2:04:13.160 --> 2:04:15.760 This has the potential to be a really interesting I mean, 2:04:15.800 --> 2:04:17.880 if you're a Cowboys fan trying to keep an eye 2:04:17.920 --> 2:04:20.760 on the best case scenario for your team, Houston and 2:04:20.920 --> 2:04:24.640 Kevin Johnson have a mighty strong link there. I mean, 2:04:24.720 --> 2:04:26.200 you've been hearing it from a lot of places. We 2:04:26.280 --> 2:04:28.440 talked about it last or yesterday during the draft show 2:04:28.480 --> 2:04:30.800 when we talked about where's Kevin Johnson going to go? 2:04:31.440 --> 2:04:34.560 Sixteen was where I said, I that's the first place 2:04:34.600 --> 2:04:36.160 where I'm worried he's going to come off the board 2:04:36.160 --> 2:04:39.800 of sixteen twenty twenty two. Yeah, absolutely. Now they have 2:04:40.000 --> 2:04:44.040 been mocked at receivers for a long time. The I 2:04:44.160 --> 2:04:49.120 can't say. I mean, he's a guy that's been thrown 2:04:49.200 --> 2:04:51.400 into the mix here. I think it's corner. We have 2:04:51.480 --> 2:04:55.080 to remember too, Bud Dupree. Uh, that's a great place 2:04:55.360 --> 2:04:57.160 on the board. He probably didn't expect him to be here. 2:04:57.520 --> 2:05:00.600 And they lost Rush Read, they lost Brooks Read Whitney. 2:05:00.680 --> 2:05:03.640 Merciless will be a free agent after this year. Trading 2:05:03.680 --> 2:05:06.360 block what a name? So you can't rule out but 2:05:06.480 --> 2:05:08.280 the pre here, but I keep, you know, keep going 2:05:08.320 --> 2:05:11.120 back to Kevin Johnson. Uh, the Texans. They brought back 2:05:11.160 --> 2:05:14.760 Cream Jackson to a four year deal. Jonathan Joseph the 2:05:14.840 --> 2:05:17.720 other corner. He's gonna be thirty two years old next year. 2:05:17.880 --> 2:05:20.280 Wouldn't you hate to be a corner for Houston? You know, 2:05:20.480 --> 2:05:22.960 you just have to cover when when clowney and wide 2:05:23.040 --> 2:05:25.080 or Russian in the pass or that doesn't sound bad, 2:05:25.440 --> 2:05:27.760 that doesn't it's a good spot to get to it. 2:05:27.920 --> 2:05:29.840 On the flip side, you do have Andrew luck in 2:05:29.920 --> 2:05:33.040 your division, but with those pass rushers, yeah, you have 2:05:33.160 --> 2:05:37.600 to abortles. That's very true. That's very true. You could 2:05:37.640 --> 2:05:39.920 either be really happy about Bortles and Mariota are not 2:05:40.040 --> 2:05:44.680 so Happy's pick is in this is and we've spent 2:05:44.840 --> 2:05:47.720 so much time talking and prepping for the possibility of 2:05:47.880 --> 2:05:50.920 getting what you know, quote unquote wiped out, and this 2:05:51.080 --> 2:05:52.640 is where you could start to see it kind of. 2:05:53.160 --> 2:05:57.280 Soho's Kevin Johnson? So give me five or six cowboy, 2:05:58.520 --> 2:06:00.960 five or six names the cowboy we're hoping would get 2:06:00.960 --> 2:06:04.200 to twenty seven that we're reasonable outside of the obvious 2:06:04.360 --> 2:06:07.120 ones that weren't going to get there, Kevin Johnson, that's 2:06:07.160 --> 2:06:10.080 the tough that's the tough part. What's separating reasonable with 2:06:10.440 --> 2:06:12.440 you know what you were hoping for because Kevin Johnson, 2:06:12.680 --> 2:06:16.320 Malcolm Brown, you're but not really reasonably they'd be there 2:06:16.320 --> 2:06:18.480 at twenty seven. Yeah, and you look at the running 2:06:18.520 --> 2:06:21.520 backs you'd love to see it not really reasonable. So 2:06:21.880 --> 2:06:24.760 it's it's it's a tough when you're picking at twenty 2:06:24.760 --> 2:06:27.640 seven solo. So we haven't seen one yet go off 2:06:27.680 --> 2:06:30.760 the board that was reasonably could get to twenty seven. 2:06:31.000 --> 2:06:33.000 I think that's fair to say. I think Kevin Johnson's 2:06:33.040 --> 2:06:35.000 probably that first guy if he comes off the board 2:06:35.040 --> 2:06:37.320 here in the next few picks, whether that's Houston sixteen 2:06:37.440 --> 2:06:40.040 we started at eighteen to that handful that the Cowboys 2:06:40.120 --> 2:06:42.720 had targeted. Who are some other guys you think that 2:06:42.760 --> 2:06:45.560 the Cowboys have targeted there? And I guess Gregory would 2:06:45.560 --> 2:06:48.880 be one. Now if we about the pass rushers, Randy Gregory, 2:06:48.920 --> 2:06:52.520 Buddy Preestile on the board, um Bud Dupre. I think 2:06:52.520 --> 2:06:54.839 get to look at Cleveland at nineteen is a possible 2:06:54.880 --> 2:06:58.000 scenario there, Uh the forty nine ers who moved back 2:06:58.080 --> 2:07:01.840 from fifteen to seventeen, they could use another pass rusher. 2:07:02.280 --> 2:07:04.600 So with Budd Dupree, I don't don't think you feel 2:07:04.640 --> 2:07:07.280 good about him lasting to twenty seven. But one of 2:07:07.360 --> 2:07:09.680 those names that maybe didn't expect on the board here 2:07:09.680 --> 2:07:13.040 in the late teens. Where do you have uh Oregan's Armstead? 2:07:13.160 --> 2:07:15.640 Where do you have him in this Eric Armstead? He's 2:07:15.840 --> 2:07:19.360 uh you know you talk about maybe to New Orleans 2:07:19.400 --> 2:07:22.080 at thirteen you thought that was a possibility. Um, I 2:07:22.200 --> 2:07:26.960 like him, Houston. I think I think I think they're 2:07:26.960 --> 2:07:31.000 pretty set there at that position. Yeah. Yeah, but you 2:07:31.120 --> 2:07:35.720 know we've said this before. Oma and Tuck and Kimuka 2:07:35.800 --> 2:07:38.360 and straighthand were pretty set and then a sudden JPP 2:07:38.640 --> 2:07:42.480 was pretty good pass rushers. You know what Parcels used 2:07:42.480 --> 2:07:45.320 to say about tight ends, keep them coming. I've used 2:07:45.360 --> 2:07:47.160 that in my day to day life so much. I 2:07:47.280 --> 2:07:49.360 love it. It's you know, at some point, guys, not 2:07:49.480 --> 2:07:52.160 maybe not right now, but this is what people are seeing. 2:07:52.200 --> 2:07:53.920 I bet you there's a lot of people going, who 2:07:54.160 --> 2:07:57.080 is that guy? Who is he? We were? Yeah, you 2:07:57.160 --> 2:07:58.840 all done this already, not I mean not in a 2:07:58.880 --> 2:08:01.360 great I mean, okay, that's Jason Garrett. If you didn't 2:08:01.400 --> 2:08:04.000 know who the big red guy was that's Jason Garrett. 2:08:04.600 --> 2:08:07.640 Uh the okay, so we got Charlotte Jones Anderson that 2:08:07.720 --> 2:08:10.920 would be Jerry's daughter, and one of the executive vice presidents, 2:08:10.920 --> 2:08:14.160 Steven Jones obviously. Uh. This guy in the back that 2:08:14.240 --> 2:08:16.880 you're looking at, who's nobody's seeing your point? By the way, 2:08:17.040 --> 2:08:22.280 that's a good point reading something. That's a that's rich Dalrymple, 2:08:22.280 --> 2:08:24.760 who is who's the cowboys head of public relations and 2:08:24.840 --> 2:08:27.760 as kind of Jerry's right hand man. Um, one of 2:08:27.800 --> 2:08:31.480 the scouts, Drew Fabit, and we mentioned um, if you 2:08:31.560 --> 2:08:33.360 see a guy he sits in the part of the 2:08:33.400 --> 2:08:34.800 screen that you can't see. But if you see a 2:08:34.840 --> 2:08:38.800 guy with surprisingly long hair, that would be Chris Hall, 2:08:38.840 --> 2:08:41.720 who's the director of college scouting. That's his office behind 2:08:41.800 --> 2:08:43.800 the war room table right there. It's been there like 2:08:43.840 --> 2:08:46.320 twenty five years. Yeah. No. I interviewed him for a 2:08:46.400 --> 2:08:49.320 story earlier this spring. He started the year Emmett Smith 2:08:49.440 --> 2:08:52.200 was drafted, so twenty five years ago he has been 2:08:52.360 --> 2:08:54.200 here for it. Which, by the way, that is the 2:08:54.320 --> 2:08:58.879 draft that get me very interested in researching draft hopefuls. 2:08:58.960 --> 2:09:01.920 And that's what here's the Commissi with houstage pick with 2:09:02.160 --> 2:09:06.720 the sixteenth pick in the twenty fifteen NFL Draft, the 2:09:06.880 --> 2:09:12.400 Houston Texans select Kevin Johnson. The cowboy targets right there. 2:09:13.240 --> 2:09:16.280 I think, Yelda, we we talked about this being a 2:09:16.560 --> 2:09:19.480 possible scenario where Houston has a need at corner. Kevin 2:09:19.600 --> 2:09:23.240 Johnson just a terrific player of first round talent. So 2:09:23.920 --> 2:09:27.240 it's you hate to see it for Dallas, but Houston 2:09:27.320 --> 2:09:30.600 just got a heck and it was in looking at 2:09:30.680 --> 2:09:34.400 most people's big boards coming in the last few days, 2:09:34.800 --> 2:09:37.200 it was not reasonable Kevin Johnson was gonna get to twenty. 2:09:37.520 --> 2:09:40.120 It reminds me a lot of my first draft here 2:09:40.240 --> 2:09:43.720 twenty thirteen, when Chance Warmack and Jonathan Cooper were the 2:09:43.800 --> 2:09:46.560 guys that everybody wanted to bolster that oh line, and 2:09:47.040 --> 2:09:49.160 you know, the closer and closer got to the draft, 2:09:49.200 --> 2:09:50.560 the more you just kind of saw the writing on 2:09:50.600 --> 2:09:53.680 the wall that that's probably not a possibility. Same thing 2:09:53.720 --> 2:09:56.120 with Kevin Johnson. I mean, every mock you looked at 2:09:56.320 --> 2:09:58.360 him had him off the board by twenty or twenty one, 2:09:59.120 --> 2:10:01.480 which again maybe you could trade, but you're asking a 2:10:01.560 --> 2:10:04.760 big price to do that, so you know, not a 2:10:04.840 --> 2:10:08.000 huge surprise. Definitely definitely disappointing for the guys in that 2:10:08.160 --> 2:10:11.160 room right there, if I had to guess um. And 2:10:11.600 --> 2:10:14.800 another thing too, is that you don't think that in 2:10:14.920 --> 2:10:19.000 ten spots or so eleven spots that Byron Jones probably 2:10:19.000 --> 2:10:21.160 won't get get picked either. If that's another guy that 2:10:21.240 --> 2:10:24.040 the Cowboys are absolutely he's probably the next corner that 2:10:24.120 --> 2:10:28.080 would go probably, Yeah, you're looking at who's really looking 2:10:28.120 --> 2:10:31.640 at corner here? Philadelphia. That's where Byron Jones makes a 2:10:31.720 --> 2:10:34.400 lot of sense. I mean, shoot, if they if he 2:10:34.440 --> 2:10:37.920 gets past Philly and Pittsburgh, Baltimore needs a corner like nobody. 2:10:38.000 --> 2:10:39.920 And it goes back to what we discussed yesterday during 2:10:39.920 --> 2:10:42.080 the Draft show about trade up options. We traded up 2:10:42.080 --> 2:10:43.640 to twenty one to get Kevin john and I would 2:10:43.640 --> 2:10:46.200 absolutely I would do it. And if if Byron Jones 2:10:46.240 --> 2:10:49.760 gets past twenties and heard that, you know what that's 2:10:50.400 --> 2:10:53.480 hurting We give these things away our fantastic access. That's 2:10:53.480 --> 2:10:55.440 what happened. What do you think San Francisco is gonna do? 2:10:55.640 --> 2:10:58.320 And San Francisco's on the copp now having traded down 2:10:58.600 --> 2:11:01.480 from fifteen to seventeen, Well, we're on Randy Gregory watch 2:11:01.600 --> 2:11:05.040 where a pass rusher is possible. Bud Dupriest still available. Uh, 2:11:05.480 --> 2:11:08.960 keep it to the front seven. Eric Armstead a five 2:11:09.080 --> 2:11:12.240 technique where you know, we talk about the forty nine 2:11:15.080 --> 2:11:18.040 front seven's aging. You're not getting any younger. So Eric 2:11:18.240 --> 2:11:21.160 Armstead has all the talent in the world. Wouldn't they 2:11:21.440 --> 2:11:23.680 You would think they would want a linebacker if there 2:11:23.800 --> 2:11:27.000 was one that fit right here? Right? Yeah, absolutely, is 2:11:27.040 --> 2:11:29.840 there a linebacker? They see the fits. Guys, I'm gonna 2:11:29.880 --> 2:11:32.000 piece out and Brian's coming back here. So it was 2:11:32.000 --> 2:11:35.360 fun to stop by. Probably come back. Sorry, they're gonna 2:11:35.360 --> 2:11:38.520 need that at Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Yeah, Bill Jones, 2:11:38.640 --> 2:11:41.720 Dane Brugler, David Hellman, Brian brought us is headed in here. 2:11:41.760 --> 2:11:45.040 The pick is in for the San Francisco forty nine 2:11:45.120 --> 2:11:49.040 ers here to be followed by Kansas City. And again 2:11:49.120 --> 2:11:52.560 San Francisco traded down from fifteen with San Diego. San 2:11:52.600 --> 2:11:55.960 Diego took Melbourne Gordon at fifteen and Kevin Johnson to 2:11:56.080 --> 2:11:59.400 Houston and now San Francisco. And this is we talked 2:11:59.440 --> 2:12:03.000 about this with Danny Shelton, just kind of being really logical, 2:12:03.160 --> 2:12:05.760 making a lot of sense. Armstead is kind of you 2:12:05.880 --> 2:12:07.680 just hear about that a lot, especially like you mentioned 2:12:07.680 --> 2:12:09.800 with Justin Smith's future kind of being in limbo. Well, 2:12:09.880 --> 2:12:13.960 Jim tom Sula. Uh, he's an old NFL europe old 2:12:14.080 --> 2:12:16.640 NFL Europe guy, great guy by the way. You know, 2:12:16.760 --> 2:12:20.320 he's got a great story. But to me, they need 2:12:20.400 --> 2:12:22.760 defensive lineman. I mean that's something you know when you 2:12:22.840 --> 2:12:25.680 when you talk in Armstead dave like you brought. I 2:12:25.720 --> 2:12:27.200 didn't put him on the Cowboy, but I didn't have 2:12:27.240 --> 2:12:28.560 him my board because I thought he was a four 2:12:28.840 --> 2:12:33.040 three four. He's won, he doesn't. He's scheme specific. He's 2:12:33.040 --> 2:12:35.240 gonna be when those guys, it's gonna play two gap, 2:12:35.560 --> 2:12:39.960 talk about two gap, extend, look inside, look outside, disengage, 2:12:40.120 --> 2:12:43.280 go get the football. Armstead is that type of guy. 2:12:43.360 --> 2:12:45.920 I think he is a perfect fit. In fact, if 2:12:45.960 --> 2:12:49.680 he's uh if if that's if he felled a twenty seven. 2:12:50.480 --> 2:12:52.240 I mean, I don't even know if the Cowboys would 2:12:52.240 --> 2:12:55.280 take him, just because I don't think so. You know, 2:12:55.360 --> 2:12:58.320 in San Francisco sitting there, they knew at fifteen that 2:12:58.440 --> 2:13:01.480 Houston was not going to take Armstead at sixteen, so 2:13:01.600 --> 2:13:03.720 it was a very safe trade down for them, and 2:13:03.760 --> 2:13:05.800 they pick up a fourth and a fifth. If indeed 2:13:05.920 --> 2:13:08.800 Armstead is their guy here, And just a note, it's 2:13:08.840 --> 2:13:12.000 the longest we've gone a first round without a trade, 2:13:12.840 --> 2:13:17.200 fourteen picks in um, so that's I don't think anyone 2:13:17.240 --> 2:13:19.600 expected that that that might be. The first while of 2:13:19.680 --> 2:13:21.200 this draft is the fact that we didn't have a 2:13:21.240 --> 2:13:23.560 trade the first fourteen picks, all right. And the other 2:13:23.720 --> 2:13:26.400 big news for San Francisco this offseason, of course, is 2:13:26.440 --> 2:13:31.960 at the linebacker position, with the retirement of Patrick Willis 2:13:32.080 --> 2:13:34.840 as well as Chris Borland, who was a third round 2:13:34.880 --> 2:13:36.840 pick last year and played terrific at the end of 2:13:36.880 --> 2:13:44.800 the year last year, but inside linebacker. In a Eric 2:13:45.120 --> 2:13:49.680 Armstead ye job, Dave, pay attention to the draft I paid. 2:13:49.800 --> 2:13:52.440 I mean you can see that when you start to 2:13:52.480 --> 2:13:54.880 see the same guy mocked by everybody on earth, and 2:13:55.360 --> 2:13:56.800 you can kind of see the writing on the wall. 2:13:57.120 --> 2:14:00.240 So Eric Armstead is a San Francisco forty nine in 2:14:00.440 --> 2:14:03.280 Kansas City is now on the clock at number eighteen, 2:14:03.480 --> 2:14:05.800 ten picks away from the Cowboys. You know what you 2:14:05.880 --> 2:14:09.520 have to think about here, guys is Kevin Johnson. And 2:14:09.640 --> 2:14:11.720 I was over doing radio with one oh five three 2:14:11.800 --> 2:14:13.640 and Dane, thank you for help, because I call that 2:14:13.760 --> 2:14:15.680 I just flat knew you knew you had some good 2:14:15.720 --> 2:14:18.400 intel on that, and I just said, Houston, this is 2:14:18.480 --> 2:14:21.840 Kevin Johnson, and sure enough it worked out great. We're 2:14:21.880 --> 2:14:25.000 starting to see these cornerbacks, so go off the board here. 2:14:25.160 --> 2:14:27.400 We talked about when you were away, we talked about 2:14:27.440 --> 2:14:29.160 how these corners are gonna start coming off the board. 2:14:29.160 --> 2:14:31.520 And our scenario yesterday in the Draft show, when we 2:14:31.560 --> 2:14:34.360 trade it up to twenty one. If Byron Jones starts us, 2:14:34.800 --> 2:14:36.400 is he still on the board there in the twenties? 2:14:36.480 --> 2:14:38.360 Is that's the one you go up and get. How 2:14:38.440 --> 2:14:40.360 do you feel about that? We're kind of we're getting 2:14:40.400 --> 2:14:43.600 into territory where I'm not scared. I'm starting to feel 2:14:43.640 --> 2:14:45.520 confident that maybe they trade. Let me ask you this, 2:14:45.840 --> 2:14:47.120 all right, we've I know there's been a lot of 2:14:47.160 --> 2:14:50.080 talk about cornerbacks. Yeah, you hear Jason Garrett talk about 2:14:50.120 --> 2:14:54.440 the cornerstone of the team is the offensive line, defensive line. 2:14:55.320 --> 2:14:57.760 How much do you think that they really if they 2:14:57.920 --> 2:15:01.160 map out how they work this strategy on this draft, 2:15:01.200 --> 2:15:06.200 they're looking at first go defensive front seven, preferably front 2:15:06.360 --> 2:15:10.200 front four, then second round running back, then third round 2:15:10.240 --> 2:15:12.640 corner because the depth of the cornerback position might be 2:15:13.160 --> 2:15:15.320 greater and the running back position. That's how I mocked 2:15:15.320 --> 2:15:19.360 it myself today. I took Gregory and then I turned 2:15:19.400 --> 2:15:25.480 around and drafted, uh, actually went safety instead, and then 2:15:25.600 --> 2:15:29.280 went safety took. I took the kid from Arizona State. Yeah. 2:15:29.360 --> 2:15:30.960 But see the thing about is I think you're gonna 2:15:30.960 --> 2:15:32.640 have to go get Randall. I think we might hear 2:15:32.680 --> 2:15:35.320 his name today. Yeah, I see, that's what I'm saying. 2:15:35.400 --> 2:15:37.520 I thought, you know, you can I put him in 2:15:37.600 --> 2:15:39.480 that round because yeah, you gotta go get this guy. 2:15:39.760 --> 2:15:42.800 But we're starting to see these corners again. And where's 2:15:42.920 --> 2:15:45.840 where does Peters fall in your mind? Here? Is he 2:15:46.000 --> 2:15:48.960 more talented than Jones? And with John Dorsey. I used 2:15:48.960 --> 2:15:52.080 to work with John Dorsey. John John likes those kind 2:15:52.120 --> 2:15:54.040 of those guys and the play a little on the 2:15:54.200 --> 2:15:57.360 edge exactly. And we talk about Marcus Peters being brash 2:15:57.440 --> 2:15:59.720 and cocky. Yeah, that's not the worst thing that the 2:16:00.040 --> 2:16:03.560 qualities to have in a corner, but you have as 2:16:03.600 --> 2:16:06.040 long as you're comfortable with him on the sidelines, off 2:16:06.040 --> 2:16:09.240 the field, being coachable. This is the center from from 2:16:09.320 --> 2:16:13.200 Florida State, right, No, no, the city. Oh yeah, well 2:16:13.200 --> 2:16:14.840 it could be, it could be. It could be urban 2:16:14.960 --> 2:16:18.240 it could that's another I can convert to center that 2:16:18.360 --> 2:16:22.040 Kansas City. To me, that that's secondary. You know, I 2:16:22.960 --> 2:16:25.280 and you did a mock with with Urban yesterday where 2:16:25.360 --> 2:16:28.240 he was there, where Irvan was was and that's not 2:16:28.440 --> 2:16:30.640 that's not bad. But I'm starting to wonder about now 2:16:30.760 --> 2:16:34.440 where does Peters, where does Jones? Because as soon as 2:16:34.560 --> 2:16:37.440 soon as Johnson went, I was like, you know, chat, 2:16:37.480 --> 2:16:39.240 I mean, if you're if you're watching the feed here, 2:16:39.400 --> 2:16:41.720 Jerry Jones has got a pencil and he's fiddling with 2:16:41.840 --> 2:16:43.640 some kind of chart here on the table. Well, he's 2:16:43.680 --> 2:16:47.280 talking to Will McClay to his left, Stephen Jones is 2:16:47.560 --> 2:16:50.600 h is right there as well, so uh that they're 2:16:50.600 --> 2:16:55.640 all probably talking about maybe uh maybe he as he 2:16:55.800 --> 2:16:57.920 looks to his as Jerry, as you look at the screeve, 2:16:58.000 --> 2:17:01.280 Jerry looks to his right at a scificat Todd Williams, 2:17:01.320 --> 2:17:03.160 who are in charge of the trade chart or to 2:17:03.400 --> 2:17:06.760 his right, and his personnel's staff is to his left. 2:17:07.320 --> 2:17:10.440 So right now that's kind of maybe if he looks 2:17:10.480 --> 2:17:13.720 to his right, he's talking about to them, Okay, what 2:17:13.879 --> 2:17:17.200 would we have to do trade wise to see how 2:17:17.280 --> 2:17:20.440 that two works out? Maybe number numbers wise to maybe 2:17:20.480 --> 2:17:22.800 go get a guy. All Right, you've got Cleveland picking 2:17:22.800 --> 2:17:25.760 after Kansas City at nineteen, Philly at twenty. They're not 2:17:25.840 --> 2:17:29.360 a trade partner, right, Maybe they're worried about Philadelphia if 2:17:29.400 --> 2:17:32.280 they're gonna maybe this corner. I mean, I think if 2:17:32.320 --> 2:17:34.440 you want to get if you want your pick of 2:17:34.560 --> 2:17:36.280 the letter, so to speak, I think you have to 2:17:36.320 --> 2:17:38.720 get in front of the Eagles. Yeah, that that's maybe. 2:17:38.760 --> 2:17:40.440 And then and then again, Jerry Eagles have a need 2:17:40.520 --> 2:17:44.959 for safety to safety, and that Jones. Maybe Jones could 2:17:45.000 --> 2:17:47.280 be in Dane. Correct me if I'm wrong. Byron Jones 2:17:47.360 --> 2:17:51.959 could be maybe a corner maybe a safety. They signed, 2:17:52.200 --> 2:17:55.959 They signed Maxwell and Thurman as too off sat a swell. 2:17:56.120 --> 2:17:58.720 He's a starter, you know, I don't think he's a 2:17:59.400 --> 2:18:02.560 clear cut starter in this league, but it makes corner 2:18:02.680 --> 2:18:05.320 not an immediate need, but a direction they could go. 2:18:05.480 --> 2:18:07.760 And so I you'll just look at Chip Kelly and 2:18:08.000 --> 2:18:11.280 the homework that he did on some of these cornerback prospects. 2:18:11.560 --> 2:18:13.840 He went to Utah to see Eric Row, he went 2:18:13.959 --> 2:18:16.680 to Yukon to see Byron Jones workout. So I think 2:18:16.800 --> 2:18:21.120 that's you can obviously connect those dots with Kansas City 2:18:21.160 --> 2:18:24.640 here at eighteen we corner you know, they like those 2:18:24.680 --> 2:18:26.640 press guys get up in your face with the line 2:18:26.640 --> 2:18:30.480 of scrimmage, absolutely disrupted the route. Yeah, you know, if 2:18:30.480 --> 2:18:32.280 you look at the market speeders, if you look at 2:18:32.320 --> 2:18:34.920 their needs, they they like what they The Gaines kid 2:18:35.040 --> 2:18:38.680 is somebody they like for the future. Smith will likely 2:18:38.760 --> 2:18:42.000 services suspension and Cooper was replaced as a starter. So 2:18:42.120 --> 2:18:45.880 maybe some question marks about really what's going on there 2:18:46.440 --> 2:18:50.240 at cornerback for the Kansas City Chiefs. So, but I 2:18:50.320 --> 2:18:53.000 like what you're talking about Bill about the center. I'm 2:18:53.720 --> 2:18:56.920 they lost Rodney Hudson, right, interesting point. I mean we're 2:18:56.920 --> 2:18:59.560 getting close to twenty. We've talked. I mean, we mocked 2:18:59.640 --> 2:19:03.320 trading up for a cornerback yesterday. Budd Pre still there. 2:19:03.760 --> 2:19:08.280 Would you trade up for him? We talk about I mean, 2:19:08.440 --> 2:19:12.080 pass rush, pass rush, pass rush. I wonder if I 2:19:12.200 --> 2:19:14.800 wonder if Bud j Pre sits on their board better 2:19:15.760 --> 2:19:19.720 than Gregory, Like, what do you feel first round grade? Yeah, 2:19:19.840 --> 2:19:22.600 first round grade, second round grades. I'm just I'm just 2:19:22.760 --> 2:19:25.080 wondering which, I know, which one you would take. I 2:19:25.480 --> 2:19:29.120 didn't think they value higher. It would just be a 2:19:29.200 --> 2:19:32.360 total guess. Yeah, it really would. I mean, but I 2:19:33.360 --> 2:19:36.560 loved the character. Would put Dupre of a bubble. I 2:19:36.640 --> 2:19:38.600 think Bud you Pre is a left defensive end in 2:19:38.640 --> 2:19:42.440 the scheme would be great. Yeah, I mean I need one. Yeah, okay, 2:19:42.520 --> 2:19:46.240 but what DeMarcus Lawrence is the left defensive end? Right? Well, 2:19:46.280 --> 2:19:48.600 I mean it's a rotating system. That's why you're a 2:19:49.320 --> 2:19:52.080 I don't think I'm looking long term. Okay, yeah. Are 2:19:52.120 --> 2:19:54.959 you going to continue to rotate a second round pick 2:19:55.000 --> 2:19:56.720 in a first round pick on the left side? I 2:19:56.840 --> 2:19:59.200 think so. I think that's the way that rod They 2:19:59.240 --> 2:20:03.120 do not want the Seattle is the model of taking 2:20:03.640 --> 2:20:07.560 eight seven or eight guys and then rotating them throughout 2:20:08.160 --> 2:20:12.160 to try and play exclusively have to be on the 2:20:12.320 --> 2:20:14.760 left side either they move them around. Right. All right, 2:20:14.800 --> 2:20:19.760 here comes the commissioner with the picker. With the eighteenth 2:20:19.840 --> 2:20:24.720 pick in the twenty fifteen NFL drafts, the Kansas City 2:20:24.840 --> 2:20:32.760 Chiefs select Marcus Peters three, which is I mean, I mean, 2:20:32.800 --> 2:20:35.840 he's a great he's a talented player, uh, and he 2:20:35.959 --> 2:20:38.400 fits a need for the Cowboys. But I'm I mean, 2:20:38.520 --> 2:20:40.879 I never never thought that they really had a shout 2:20:40.920 --> 2:20:42.400 of getting there. Not sure they would have taken him 2:20:42.400 --> 2:20:45.880 anyway because of his character concerns. John Dorsey Chris Ballard 2:20:46.400 --> 2:20:51.920 two personnel guys in this league that I trust. My 2:20:52.000 --> 2:20:56.320 trust list among NFL evaluators, guys that do their homework, 2:20:56.760 --> 2:20:59.680 that just they know the game, they know how to scout. 2:21:00.200 --> 2:21:02.200 Those two guys are high on that list, so that 2:21:02.320 --> 2:21:05.360 you know they did the homework. Yeah, I worked with 2:21:05.480 --> 2:21:07.760 John Dorsey. John Dorsey and I in Green Bay together 2:21:08.160 --> 2:21:10.520 for five years, won a Super Bowl together. You're absolutely 2:21:10.560 --> 2:21:14.200 right about traded emails with Chris Ballard last night. I uh, 2:21:14.840 --> 2:21:17.200 and he was about three in the morning and he 2:21:17.240 --> 2:21:19.200 was still up working. Yeah, it's three in the morning. 2:21:19.360 --> 2:21:21.000 He emailed me, said go to bed, and I said, 2:21:21.000 --> 2:21:22.880 I emailed him back and I said, you you first. 2:21:23.160 --> 2:21:25.280 It's just there's these guys live to do this, and 2:21:25.400 --> 2:21:27.920 so I think they've done their Homeworker Marcus Peters are 2:21:27.959 --> 2:21:30.760 comfortable with the player on the field and off the field, 2:21:30.840 --> 2:21:32.440 all right, Brian, I asked this while you are out 2:21:32.480 --> 2:21:36.240 of the room. What handful of players are the Cowboys 2:21:36.440 --> 2:21:39.520 targeting that they would take at twenty seven that's sitting 2:21:39.520 --> 2:21:42.800 there right now. We're talking about Byron Jones as a guy. 2:21:43.320 --> 2:21:46.400 I think they're surprised, right, now, I think they're very 2:21:46.520 --> 2:21:52.040 surprised that that that they that that Budd Dupree is 2:21:52.080 --> 2:21:53.880 still on that board. That's what I'm saying. I think 2:21:53.920 --> 2:21:56.360 they're very I think they're very surprised by that. I 2:21:56.560 --> 2:21:59.879 think that they're very surprised that maybe that DJ Humphreys, 2:22:00.520 --> 2:22:02.840 I want to say, they've probably got an off a 2:22:02.920 --> 2:22:06.080 couple of offensive lineman. I know Dane mocked a Bouet 2:22:06.440 --> 2:22:10.560 to the Cowboys, you know, and Jerry Jones gave you 2:22:10.600 --> 2:22:13.240 a little bit of there's a scenario where you could 2:22:13.280 --> 2:22:17.720 see us taking an offensive lineman. I think they're probably 2:22:18.160 --> 2:22:21.920 surprised by that. With all these linebackers still on the board. 2:22:22.120 --> 2:22:26.200 I'm talking about McKinney, Kendricks, Thompson. You've also got the 2:22:26.320 --> 2:22:31.160 corners are still intact. As far as Byron Jones, they're 2:22:31.240 --> 2:22:34.600 looking at second round corners. I think if that's the case, so, 2:22:34.920 --> 2:22:37.040 and that's the other thing, all these names you're mentioning, 2:22:37.120 --> 2:22:39.440 they're not going to be anywhere near their picket in 2:22:39.480 --> 2:22:42.600 the second round. No, So yeah, if you're sitting there 2:22:42.879 --> 2:22:45.400 with still a handful of guys that you're willing to 2:22:45.480 --> 2:22:48.240 take at twenty seven, then that increases the chances of 2:22:48.280 --> 2:22:50.560 a trade down, because one of those guys would still 2:22:50.560 --> 2:22:52.440 be there if they trade down a few spots. Right, 2:22:52.680 --> 2:22:54.879 Jerry and Stephen Jones are up to something here. Yeah, 2:22:54.920 --> 2:22:57.680 they're looking again. Jerry keeps looking. Steven is trying to 2:22:57.760 --> 2:23:00.879 explain Steven's trying to keep the picks, and Jerry wants 2:23:00.959 --> 2:23:04.440 to go. I mean, I've seen this look before. Say, 2:23:04.560 --> 2:23:07.080 Cleveland is on the clock right now, and so he's 2:23:07.080 --> 2:23:08.960 trying to figure out a way to get Johnny Manzil 2:23:08.959 --> 2:23:11.440 out see and Garrett looks like Garrett's trying to figure 2:23:11.480 --> 2:23:14.280 this out. He's looking like, okay, if we move. Jerry 2:23:14.360 --> 2:23:17.320 wants to go, and he's feel like he's gonna lose 2:23:17.440 --> 2:23:21.039 somebody here, and Stevens again trying to talk him into 2:23:21.480 --> 2:23:24.320 something maybe different. Every time they're looking across the table, 2:23:24.640 --> 2:23:27.520 Todd Williams is giving him the math. He's figuring out 2:23:27.800 --> 2:23:29.920 what he would have to take. Now, somebody on the 2:23:30.240 --> 2:23:32.000 slaves on which side again, he would be as to 2:23:32.200 --> 2:23:34.959 Jerry's right as you look at the screen, it would 2:23:34.959 --> 2:23:36.880 be to the left, he said, to the side of 2:23:36.959 --> 2:23:39.720 Jason Garrett over Charlotte. Yeah, so if they're gonna work 2:23:39.800 --> 2:23:43.560 the phones working the phones is coming from Steven Jones left. 2:23:43.879 --> 2:23:46.160 So that's what they're doing. Todd Williams leaning in right 2:23:46.240 --> 2:23:49.880 there and telling him something. What's going on with the 2:23:50.000 --> 2:23:52.480 Gary told him a good joke. There's a hearty laugh 2:23:52.560 --> 2:23:56.280 from Steven Jones there. Yeah, these guys handle this way 2:23:56.360 --> 2:23:57.880 better than I ever could. I mean, they've been doing 2:23:57.920 --> 2:23:59.800 it for a quarter century. If you imagine if we're 2:23:59.800 --> 2:24:03.520 at oh gosh, I'd be running around slamming things on 2:24:03.560 --> 2:24:07.240 the ground the butt for the Browns here at nineteen UM. 2:24:08.120 --> 2:24:11.320 For the longest time I mocked Lyle Collins. Here, they'd 2:24:11.360 --> 2:24:13.920 like Lyle Collins quite a bit. Yeah, obviously now you 2:24:14.000 --> 2:24:16.800 can't do that right, But I still think offensive line 2:24:16.879 --> 2:24:19.600 is the direction they want to go. And with Irving 2:24:19.760 --> 2:24:23.440 on the board still the Chiefs passed Irving could be 2:24:23.560 --> 2:24:26.000 that pick Alex Mack. You don't know what his feature 2:24:26.080 --> 2:24:31.680 is at center right tackle? Is a need a versatile guy? Absolutely? Yeah, Yeah, 2:24:31.720 --> 2:24:33.640 he's played. I'll tell you what. When you watch him play, 2:24:33.760 --> 2:24:35.760 he's making all the calls and he made him from 2:24:35.760 --> 2:24:38.199 the left tackle spot. Yeah, he is one of those guys. 2:24:38.600 --> 2:24:41.280 I'll tell you what. You see, he gets pushed, he's 2:24:41.320 --> 2:24:44.840 able to sustain. Is a good pass blocker, gets a 2:24:44.879 --> 2:24:47.160 little wide at times with his bass, but I tell 2:24:47.160 --> 2:24:49.320 you what, he has the power to sit down on people. 2:24:49.640 --> 2:24:52.800 I think I think Dane's onto something there about him. 2:24:53.000 --> 2:24:55.040 It's a it's a it's a it's a. When you 2:24:55.160 --> 2:24:58.200 talk about players that could stand up in that mill, 2:24:58.240 --> 2:25:00.400 that's the most important thing that when you talk about Jones, 2:25:00.440 --> 2:25:03.040 the Cowboys keep in the middle of that pocket. Clean 2:25:03.600 --> 2:25:05.520 Irvan is a guy that makes a lot of sense 2:25:05.600 --> 2:25:08.320 to me if they were a receiver for Cleveland here. 2:25:09.160 --> 2:25:11.320 Brashad Perraman is a player they've done work on and 2:25:11.520 --> 2:25:13.960 I mocked actually in my mock I had him taking 2:25:13.959 --> 2:25:16.800 Breshad Perraman at nineteen, but Irving was off the board 2:25:16.800 --> 2:25:19.760 in that scenario. So I think with could use a rusher. 2:25:20.240 --> 2:25:22.000 I mean, there could be a rusher here too. Yeah. 2:25:22.120 --> 2:25:23.840 I think Cleveland fans are gonna be a little upset 2:25:23.920 --> 2:25:26.560 if they pass on Bud dupre here. Yeah. But I 2:25:26.640 --> 2:25:29.960 don't disagree with you about the about the the center 2:25:30.360 --> 2:25:32.440 because I think he can. Yeah, he's the best center 2:25:32.480 --> 2:25:35.200 in the draft and the only center in this draft 2:25:35.240 --> 2:25:37.360 you really feel comfortable with saying he's gonna start for 2:25:37.400 --> 2:25:40.160 a long time. Yeah, I totally I totally agree on that. 2:25:40.320 --> 2:25:41.920 And if you get him a little earlier than you 2:25:42.000 --> 2:25:43.680 want to, I mean, it worked out well for the 2:25:43.760 --> 2:25:46.800 Cowboys two years ago and he would play right tackle. Well, 2:25:46.879 --> 2:25:50.720 Mitchell Schwartz is their right tackle. Yeah, he's going to 2:25:51.040 --> 2:25:52.440 I don't know. I don't know where he's gonna play 2:25:52.440 --> 2:25:56.080 because Mitchell Schwartz is the incumbent. He's a free agent 2:25:56.120 --> 2:25:58.280 after the year. So I think Irving's your long term 2:25:58.320 --> 2:26:01.880 starter right at Botonio, at guard in Greco Greco, I 2:26:01.959 --> 2:26:04.360 think that's where you're going to see a competition between 2:26:04.480 --> 2:26:07.160 Irving and Greco. Well, the the rumor is they want 2:26:07.160 --> 2:26:10.640 to do something with Swarts to trying to the right 2:26:10.760 --> 2:26:13.199 last year. Yeah, at right tackle. Yeah, I think Irving 2:26:13.200 --> 2:26:15.160 while have a chance every opportunity to earn that right 2:26:15.200 --> 2:26:19.000 tackle job. It'll be tough to supplant h Schwartz, who's 2:26:19.240 --> 2:26:22.720 been in the league for three years now. But Alex 2:26:22.800 --> 2:26:26.920 Mack too. They're worried about Alex mack Is future in Cleveland. 2:26:27.000 --> 2:26:29.520 How long will he be there? So uh, But Irving 2:26:29.600 --> 2:26:32.160 that's what he brings. He brings that versatility, play tackle, 2:26:32.360 --> 2:26:35.720 play center. He can play guards. So m this pick 2:26:35.760 --> 2:26:37.640 would not surprise me if it ends up being that's 2:26:37.680 --> 2:26:40.560 the voice of Dame Brugler right there, CBS Sports, you 2:26:40.640 --> 2:26:43.840 got brought us, you got David Hellman. I'm Bill Jones, 2:26:44.040 --> 2:26:47.440 as Cleveland is on the clock. Should be getting the 2:26:47.480 --> 2:26:50.240 pick in here pretty soon. He's in. Yeah, just waiting. 2:26:50.400 --> 2:26:52.840 They keep showing the Cleveland war room here. I you know, 2:26:54.120 --> 2:26:56.520 if you're Cleveland and you come out of this just straft, 2:26:56.680 --> 2:26:59.039 especially in the first round with Danny Shelton, and then 2:26:59.120 --> 2:27:02.000 you got Irving who you're talking about, and you're talking 2:27:02.040 --> 2:27:04.640 about the best nose tackle in the draft, talking about 2:27:04.640 --> 2:27:07.440 six hundred and fifty pounds, talk about the polar opposite 2:27:07.480 --> 2:27:10.039 of the madness we were thinking they might pull off 2:27:10.040 --> 2:27:13.160 a couple hours ago. Oh with Mario. With Mario, and 2:27:13.200 --> 2:27:16.320 it's going something to watch way smarter in my opinion, exactly. 2:27:16.760 --> 2:27:21.480 You build in the trenches, scar scary GM, smart GM, 2:27:21.840 --> 2:27:24.600 logical GM. Now you build from the inside out. And 2:27:24.720 --> 2:27:27.360 that's what they're doing. You haven't even given your troubled 2:27:27.440 --> 2:27:30.120 quarterback more than like three quarters to prove he can 2:27:30.200 --> 2:27:33.200 even do anything. Picks in all right, here we go 2:27:33.800 --> 2:27:38.440 Roger with the nineteenth pick in the twenty fifteen NFL Draft, 2:27:39.400 --> 2:27:43.760 the Cleveland Brown select Cameron Irving. Here you go? Are 2:27:43.840 --> 2:27:48.880 you go? I have Irving, Florida State. Now Philadelphia at 2:27:49.000 --> 2:27:52.760 number twenty. This feels like a big one. I don't know, No, 2:27:53.160 --> 2:27:59.160 it really does. I mean, Okay, Pittsburgh and Baltimore need cornerbacks. Ideally, 2:27:59.240 --> 2:28:01.760 I think the Cowboy always would like a cornerback. If 2:28:01.879 --> 2:28:05.520 Philly takes Byron Jones right here, then it screws up 2:28:05.520 --> 2:28:07.520 a lot of stuff. But I could see him trading 2:28:07.560 --> 2:28:09.320 into that twenty one spot if they wanted to, If 2:28:09.360 --> 2:28:12.400 that was something they Whether it's for Bud Dupree, whether 2:28:12.440 --> 2:28:14.000 it's for Byron Jones, I don't know. But what the 2:28:14.080 --> 2:28:16.000 Eagles do right here could dictate a lot about what 2:28:16.040 --> 2:28:18.840 happens with the Cowboy. Cincinnati's at number twenty one, followed 2:28:18.879 --> 2:28:21.160 by Pittsburgh. Yeah, we mocked it. We mocked it where 2:28:21.200 --> 2:28:25.560 they traded to Cincinnati. We're smart guys. Yeah, Well, to 2:28:25.640 --> 2:28:29.280 take Kevin Johnson not a guy, true, but this might 2:28:29.320 --> 2:28:32.240 be to take Byron Jones. If if if, if, if, 2:28:32.560 --> 2:28:36.440 if fact Philadelphia passes here, then you know you got 2:28:36.560 --> 2:28:38.200 to think about that. I mean, if you can get 2:28:38.640 --> 2:28:41.360 And I said, no, that's what I said yesterday in 2:28:41.360 --> 2:28:44.440 the mock draft. And and it's college Cincinnati. Sometimes you 2:28:44.520 --> 2:28:47.200 hear crickets, you know, it's like they just kind of 2:28:47.200 --> 2:28:49.120 haven't paid their phone bill. Well they do. They do 2:28:49.240 --> 2:28:51.600 their own little thing over there. And so sometimes you're 2:28:51.879 --> 2:28:53.640 you're kind of at the mercy when when you know 2:28:53.760 --> 2:28:56.880 you have to trade to somebody in Philadelphia. Is that team? 2:28:57.560 --> 2:29:00.560 Excuse me a Cincinnati's that team? You kind of like 2:29:00.680 --> 2:29:03.720 you're thinking, ah, this is just not going to work out. Um, 2:29:05.360 --> 2:29:12.640 look at the needs here though, safety guard, wide receiver, Philadelphia, Philadelphia. 2:29:13.240 --> 2:29:15.960 What do you think I mean? Could this be? Could 2:29:16.040 --> 2:29:19.280 this be? We see Collins? Would they take Collins here? 2:29:19.280 --> 2:29:23.600 It's possibility. Unfortunately its Randall's a possibility. Collins as a possibility. 2:29:23.600 --> 2:29:25.120 And this is a bad timing. But I have to 2:29:25.160 --> 2:29:27.880 go run and do writer stuff, help out Nick Eatman 2:29:27.920 --> 2:29:31.160 and Rob Phillips while they handle TV business. But I 2:29:31.240 --> 2:29:32.720 hope I can. I hope I can make it back 2:29:32.720 --> 2:29:34.600 in come all about boys pick. I will do my best, 2:29:35.120 --> 2:29:37.080 but I'll talk to you all down the line. David 2:29:37.160 --> 2:29:41.119 Helman's read his fine work here right here on Dallas 2:29:41.160 --> 2:29:44.400 Cowboys dot Com. So we got a division rival on 2:29:44.560 --> 2:29:48.959 the clock. Earlier at number five, Washington took Brandon Schurf, 2:29:49.240 --> 2:29:52.360 the offensive lineman from Iowa, and the Giants at number 2:29:52.440 --> 2:29:58.199 nine took Eric Flowers, a tackle from Miami and now Philadelphia. 2:29:59.080 --> 2:30:01.840 Let me ask you this, where's Chip Kelly come from? 2:30:02.480 --> 2:30:05.440 Where is where is his background? So you got to 2:30:05.480 --> 2:30:07.760 think about these with coaches. This is really his first 2:30:07.840 --> 2:30:12.480 time with the controls of the personnel department. Here where 2:30:12.959 --> 2:30:16.680 when Jimmy Johnson, Bill, you're recovering Jimmy Johnson, the players 2:30:16.760 --> 2:30:19.039 that that he knew. He was coming from a college 2:30:19.120 --> 2:30:23.600 program evaluating and in Miami was I think was a 2:30:23.680 --> 2:30:25.800 biggie was a Big East team at the time though, 2:30:25.840 --> 2:30:29.280 but maybe he didn't draft, but he knew the college program, 2:30:29.560 --> 2:30:31.320 he knew him very well. I think that you have 2:30:31.480 --> 2:30:34.320 to think about when you're looking at these coaches, especially 2:30:34.480 --> 2:30:39.600 ones that are running personnel departments now, they will gravitate 2:30:39.800 --> 2:30:44.760 towards areas that they know, you know, and I mean 2:30:44.920 --> 2:30:47.560 where you're going with this. I'm trying to say, think 2:30:47.600 --> 2:30:51.000 about I'm thinking about like PAC twelve players, sure, I'm 2:30:51.080 --> 2:30:54.680 thinking about if you you know, well, yeah, that's what 2:30:54.680 --> 2:30:58.680 I'm saying. Oh okay, sorry, okay, but I'm thinking about 2:30:58.760 --> 2:31:01.440 like PAC twelve guys. I mean, that's something you have 2:31:01.600 --> 2:31:04.680 to think about when you have somebody that's running these departments, 2:31:05.000 --> 2:31:07.560 when you're going into the draft and you're saying receiver, 2:31:08.760 --> 2:31:11.640 it could one much strong in Arizona State. I'm thinking 2:31:11.640 --> 2:31:17.640 another PAC twelve receiver. You're thinking Agyar one of those 2:31:17.760 --> 2:31:20.040 weapons that Chip Kelly would just love to get his 2:31:20.080 --> 2:31:23.520 hands on. You know, he's just kind of steady, h 2:31:23.600 --> 2:31:26.560 he wants a playmaker, and so I think, and who 2:31:26.600 --> 2:31:30.920 did he lose Jeremy Macklin. Yeah, right, this guy type player. 2:31:31.000 --> 2:31:33.720 They they drafted Jordan Matthews in the second round last year. Yes, 2:31:33.879 --> 2:31:37.600 Aglare is more of a Macklin type player. Is that yah? 2:31:37.879 --> 2:31:42.040 I think that's a very apt comparison. Yeah. I just 2:31:42.240 --> 2:31:45.760 think that when you start talking about coaches and that 2:31:45.840 --> 2:31:50.000 they're they're new running the department, especially young young as 2:31:50.080 --> 2:31:53.560 far as NFL, they go to things that they understand, 2:31:53.680 --> 2:31:57.360 they've seen guys play. That's where I mean. And I 2:31:57.920 --> 2:32:01.360 think that you know, you look at those Pack twelve guys, 2:32:02.080 --> 2:32:04.320 that just makes some mean. But they could go again, 2:32:04.400 --> 2:32:09.040 They could go safety, they could go guard here, But 2:32:09.160 --> 2:32:10.600 who would be you know, I mean, who would be 2:32:10.640 --> 2:32:13.480 the offensive lineman that you would like? I mean maybe, well, 2:32:13.480 --> 2:32:17.360 and if you're the Cowboys, you're I think you don't 2:32:17.400 --> 2:32:20.200 like to see if Ogilore is the pick? Where is 2:32:20.240 --> 2:32:21.760 you a little bit? But I think you're happy that 2:32:21.840 --> 2:32:24.560 it's not Byron Jones because that gives you one more option? Well, 2:32:24.600 --> 2:32:27.959 who would you rather see? You see strong? See strong? 2:32:28.160 --> 2:32:31.680 Then I'm saying more along the line petitive standpoint. Yeah, 2:32:31.840 --> 2:32:34.960 at twenty seven options for you. I don't think Nelson 2:32:35.000 --> 2:32:36.440 Ogilore was a player you were going to take a 2:32:36.480 --> 2:32:39.640 twenty seven. So you're happy to see, uh if that 2:32:39.800 --> 2:32:41.880 ends up being the pick, I think that that makes 2:32:41.879 --> 2:32:43.840 you happy that it's not going to be Byron Jones 2:32:43.959 --> 2:32:46.160 or a player that you would consider a Bud Dupree 2:32:46.520 --> 2:32:48.040 who is still on the board. And we're in the 2:32:48.120 --> 2:32:50.960 twenties now, Yeah, I think that you know, to me, 2:32:52.040 --> 2:32:55.920 Chip Kelly, he's dismantled his offensive. If you look at 2:32:55.959 --> 2:33:00.400 the weapons, McCoy, macklin, you know who is who are 2:33:00.400 --> 2:33:02.920 they throwing the ball to? Who are those? You know? 2:33:03.040 --> 2:33:06.000 Who is the runner? They went and got a runner? 2:33:06.640 --> 2:33:08.600 You know? Now they think, Okay, how can we help 2:33:08.680 --> 2:33:11.400 whoever plays who are runners? Yeah, whoever could play quarterback? 2:33:11.400 --> 2:33:13.560 That's what you're trying to do. How can you help 2:33:13.600 --> 2:33:16.520 the quarterback? Plus in that offense that you've won as 2:33:16.600 --> 2:33:19.240 many receivers as you can get your hands right, Yeah, 2:33:19.360 --> 2:33:22.600 I agree with that. Come on in, makes a lot 2:33:22.640 --> 2:33:25.480 of sense there. Steve Dennis is making his way here, 2:33:25.600 --> 2:33:28.960 got into the got the pictures of the ABC studio. 2:33:29.080 --> 2:33:37.440 Here we go the commission, the Philadelphia Eagles selector Nelson 2:33:40.200 --> 2:33:44.840 all over this drap Hey. Brian mentioned the Pac twelve connection. Yeah, 2:33:45.320 --> 2:33:48.520 you know, going going back to what you know, going 2:33:48.640 --> 2:33:52.480 back to what you're comfortable with. Yeah, Chip Kelly in 2:33:52.560 --> 2:33:54.800 that in that Pac twelve he lost Jeremy Macklin. So 2:33:54.840 --> 2:33:57.480 we get to Jeremy Macklin like receiver here at twenty 2:33:57.840 --> 2:34:01.480 Nelson Ogilor. He's not necessarily a game breaker, is not 2:34:01.640 --> 2:34:04.680 necessarily a possession guy. He's just an all around solid player, 2:34:04.720 --> 2:34:07.000 a guy that you have to really game plan for 2:34:07.280 --> 2:34:09.320 if you're the Cowboys and rest of the division. Bad 2:34:09.400 --> 2:34:12.000 news for the Cowboys they have to face Aglore. Good 2:34:12.080 --> 2:34:14.080 news for the Cowboys in this draft. That is not 2:34:14.160 --> 2:34:16.039 a player they would have taken in the first round. 2:34:16.080 --> 2:34:18.000 You no, I don't think the guys are still on 2:34:18.080 --> 2:34:21.680 the board. Yeah, but when you watch USC tape, this guy, 2:34:21.959 --> 2:34:24.720 they line him up all over the formation, They throw 2:34:25.000 --> 2:34:27.120 screens to him, they throw it down the field to him, 2:34:27.120 --> 2:34:29.640 they run reverses with him. You know, Chip Kelly, I 2:34:29.720 --> 2:34:31.520 guarantee is going to do a lot of the same 2:34:31.760 --> 2:34:36.199 things that they did that Steve Sarkissian did at USC 2:34:36.680 --> 2:34:38.400 to try and get the football in his hands. This 2:34:38.520 --> 2:34:40.320 guy's I'll tell you what, there's a lot of people 2:34:40.440 --> 2:34:42.760 think of talk about one of the best route runners 2:34:42.959 --> 2:34:46.640 in this draft. Nelson Aguilar is one of those guys, 2:34:47.120 --> 2:34:49.840 and to me, he reminded me a lot of Marquis Lee, 2:34:50.480 --> 2:34:55.640 another former USC receiver, But with aglare the production outstanding. 2:34:55.760 --> 2:34:58.280 One of the few receivers who went triple digits and 2:34:58.360 --> 2:35:01.800 catches last year in the FBS. A player that's just 2:35:01.959 --> 2:35:05.360 on all around, solid, solid, solid option here for the Eagles. 2:35:05.400 --> 2:35:07.600 So you have to feel if you're the Cowboys, you 2:35:07.680 --> 2:35:10.560 hate to have to face him twice a year. But again, uh, 2:35:10.879 --> 2:35:13.000 like Bill said, it's it's an option that you weren't 2:35:13.000 --> 2:35:15.720 gonna go at twenty seven so a player may be 2:35:15.879 --> 2:35:18.920 moving back that you might want to get Budd Dupres 2:35:18.959 --> 2:35:21.000 still there Byron Jones is still on the on the board, 2:35:21.600 --> 2:35:24.760 Gregory's still there all right, Steve Dennis, how are you 2:35:24.879 --> 2:35:29.880 doing six picks away Gregory raid discussion? Yeah, I mean 2:35:30.160 --> 2:35:33.000 is gonna come into play? I think I think it'll 2:35:33.040 --> 2:35:35.560 be interesting to see what if Bud Dupre in fact 2:35:35.720 --> 2:35:38.560 is involved in this as well. The outside line or 2:35:38.600 --> 2:35:42.199 defensive end from Kentucky. This is something that we didn't 2:35:42.240 --> 2:35:45.880 feel like that he was gonna slide this far. And 2:35:46.440 --> 2:35:48.240 so I think he was one of the guys that 2:35:48.280 --> 2:35:51.240 Cowboys brought in, Yes, exactly. So yeah, I think that 2:35:51.360 --> 2:35:55.480 you have to hum who will be higher on their board? 2:35:55.760 --> 2:35:59.480 Will Gregory be higher than Dupre, will be higher than 2:36:00.240 --> 2:36:03.520 uh than Shane Ray here? And so I think that's 2:36:03.560 --> 2:36:07.200 what they like, those defensive ends better than a Malcolm Brown, 2:36:08.600 --> 2:36:11.119 I think so bestial like Eddie Goldman. Yeah, I think 2:36:11.160 --> 2:36:13.600 that they. I think they view Malcolm Brown like as 2:36:13.640 --> 2:36:16.200 a one technique. I don't think they would take a 2:36:16.320 --> 2:36:19.240 one technique. I think Carl Davis, they've seen on tape 2:36:19.520 --> 2:36:22.880 at Iowa play in both the the three and playing 2:36:22.959 --> 2:36:27.200 the one. So I don't know Cincinnati on the cunny one. Yeah, 2:36:27.200 --> 2:36:28.640 do we have any ideas about what this might be? 2:36:28.840 --> 2:36:33.039 That's your you've mocked about offensive linemen. I think offensive 2:36:33.080 --> 2:36:34.640 line is where they wanted to go. You look at 2:36:35.320 --> 2:36:37.720 left tackle, right tackle. They can use some upgrades there 2:36:37.840 --> 2:36:41.920 long term. Um so who Humphreys is still available? And 2:36:42.000 --> 2:36:43.880 this I think this was the first spot we looked at. 2:36:44.680 --> 2:36:48.720 A Boohe big possibility. Yeah, and I think that's it's 2:36:48.800 --> 2:36:52.400 it's a very possible uh marriage here for the Bengals 2:36:52.440 --> 2:36:55.000 and a Boohey if that's the direction they decide to go. Yeah, 2:36:55.040 --> 2:36:56.720 they're a little bit different in the way they look 2:36:56.760 --> 2:36:59.280 at these linemens. So yeah, and they've always they've done 2:36:59.280 --> 2:37:02.080 a nice job though of kind of grabbing those sec 2:37:02.440 --> 2:37:05.520 lineman as well over the years. But I agree with 2:37:05.640 --> 2:37:07.760 you about the problem I have with a Boohe is 2:37:07.800 --> 2:37:11.680 though the health you know where where you know where 2:37:11.840 --> 2:37:14.400 is he on his recovery right now? And with a 2:37:14.520 --> 2:37:17.360 boo it's not just the ACL he's been banged up 2:37:17.720 --> 2:37:20.440 his entire career. He's he's dealt with nagging issues. So 2:37:20.600 --> 2:37:23.320 their ability is something you have to factor in. Yeah, 2:37:25.520 --> 2:37:27.800 all right, I think the Jones kid is sort of 2:37:27.879 --> 2:37:30.920 this year shazier at this point that they're nervously hoping 2:37:31.040 --> 2:37:36.400 that he Well, what's what's gonna be interesting is if 2:37:36.520 --> 2:37:40.720 Pittsburgh who Pittsburgh takes and and they have two big 2:37:40.800 --> 2:37:45.840 needs pass rush corner that yeah, to me, see that's 2:37:45.879 --> 2:37:48.200 where that's where you look at Pittsburgh and they can 2:37:48.360 --> 2:37:51.280 say they could take the outside linebacker and they seem 2:37:51.320 --> 2:37:53.760 to always take a guy ahead of the Cowboys that 2:37:53.879 --> 2:37:57.400 they like. But I think, to me, you have to 2:37:57.520 --> 2:38:00.800 be and looking just ahead. I think a booie. I 2:38:00.840 --> 2:38:04.480 think that's a that's a possibility there, and then I 2:38:04.560 --> 2:38:07.880 would worry about Jones or bud Dupree going to Pittsburgh. 2:38:08.520 --> 2:38:12.199 I think they would be okay if Pittsburgh did take 2:38:12.640 --> 2:38:15.560 bud Dupree. I think they would be okay with that 2:38:15.680 --> 2:38:18.240 because I don't think they expected it to be so 2:38:18.320 --> 2:38:20.480 they did. Well. They're getting a little more nervous in here. 2:38:20.560 --> 2:38:25.000 I mean, Junior's pacing and it's more intense. It's just 2:38:25.200 --> 2:38:27.760 like it was last year before their pick came. So 2:38:28.080 --> 2:38:33.280 they're they're sweating something they're feeling pretty good about. Yeah, yeah, 2:38:33.680 --> 2:38:36.760 we're staying there. Now, who do we say on Cincinnati's 2:38:37.000 --> 2:38:39.080 pick is in what we say about their needs. Again, 2:38:39.160 --> 2:38:41.320 we thought it was going to be offensive linemen here 2:38:41.360 --> 2:38:44.560 that Yeah, they've got Whitworth and Andre Smith at the 2:38:44.600 --> 2:38:47.720 tackle position to veterans, both about to be free agents. Yeah, 2:38:47.760 --> 2:38:49.800 we're thirty four years old. If he's in the long 2:38:49.879 --> 2:38:53.199 term future, I think it's that guard safety, Yeah, George 2:38:53.240 --> 2:38:55.720 Iloka and Reggie Nelson and no safety off the board 2:38:55.800 --> 2:38:58.960 yet well tied end offensive tackle, you know, and then 2:38:59.080 --> 2:39:03.560 safety were the three that Collins is there. Yeah, I 2:39:04.400 --> 2:39:07.960 just think I think I think Danish, right, whoever it 2:39:08.000 --> 2:39:09.720 could be. It could be Humphries, it could be a 2:39:09.760 --> 2:39:12.760 buoy I think it's gonna be an offensive tackle here. Again, 2:39:12.800 --> 2:39:15.800 they do not want to pay guys they traditionally that's 2:39:15.879 --> 2:39:17.960 not there, and that's fine with the Cowboys if they 2:39:18.000 --> 2:39:20.600 take those guys. Yeah, in my mock draft, I had 2:39:20.600 --> 2:39:23.560 them taking Eric Flowers, but obviously that's not Flowers has 2:39:23.600 --> 2:39:26.160 gone long gone by this point, So I think the 2:39:26.280 --> 2:39:30.240 next likely possibilities of Boohy, that's who I think we saw. 2:39:30.320 --> 2:39:32.960 There's a connection there, and again a buoy is coming 2:39:33.000 --> 2:39:35.720 off at acl Texas a and m product out of 2:39:35.760 --> 2:39:39.120 Alan High School. Probably a top ten pick. Yeah, the 2:39:39.400 --> 2:39:41.720 al and we're talking below the way. It says a 2:39:41.800 --> 2:39:45.040 lot about him that he's being considered the first horrific feat. 2:39:45.120 --> 2:39:47.440 You love the fluidity, you love the change of direction 2:39:47.520 --> 2:39:49.920 for a big man like that upper body. You worry 2:39:49.959 --> 2:39:52.040 about the hand placement, you worry about the technique. He 2:39:52.160 --> 2:39:54.200 needs work. Here we go, We got the commissioner here. 2:39:55.800 --> 2:39:58.720 We're the twenty first pick in the two thy fifteen 2:39:58.879 --> 2:40:07.240 NFL Draft, the Cincinnati Bengals st Cedric. They nailed it. 2:40:07.480 --> 2:40:16.360 He has studied this draft. I crammed last night, where 2:40:16.400 --> 2:40:18.880 did you have dupri By the way, why is he sliding? 2:40:19.320 --> 2:40:21.600 You have him? And in your mock? Where did I 2:40:21.680 --> 2:40:23.840 have him? I had him early, had him six. Yeah, 2:40:23.840 --> 2:40:29.160 that's what's going on with him. That is a good question. 2:40:29.320 --> 2:40:32.480 I don't talking talking to some teams. They I know 2:40:32.600 --> 2:40:37.200 some teams had him as a second round player. Yeah, great, No, 2:40:37.520 --> 2:40:41.240 And you just you wonder about did teams see him 2:40:41.240 --> 2:40:42.800 as a three four backer? They see him as a 2:40:42.840 --> 2:40:44.240 four three? And do they see him as a guy 2:40:44.280 --> 2:40:45.840 that can play both? Do they see him as a 2:40:45.879 --> 2:40:48.320 guy that's maybe a tweener. I think that's something that 2:40:48.400 --> 2:40:50.879 an opinion it's going to be different team to team 2:40:51.160 --> 2:40:55.320 depending on who you talk to. But with the Steelers 2:40:55.360 --> 2:40:57.520 on the clock, now, I think this is where you 2:40:57.600 --> 2:41:01.080 look at Bud dupre. Yeah, this Budd Dupree, he's not. 2:41:01.480 --> 2:41:04.039 The Steelers are one of those teams that always cleans 2:41:04.120 --> 2:41:08.080 up the mess. Somebody slides down the board. It happened 2:41:08.080 --> 2:41:09.920 to us one time in the draft room. Kendrell Bell 2:41:10.240 --> 2:41:13.680 we took we took Quincy Carter, and we had Kendrell 2:41:13.760 --> 2:41:16.760 Bell as a first round grade at linebacker and the 2:41:16.959 --> 2:41:20.840 very ORGI yeah, the very next pick, they took Kendrill 2:41:20.879 --> 2:41:22.960 Bell and he made They made AFC Rookie of the 2:41:23.040 --> 2:41:25.920 Defensive Rookie of the Year. So that just shows you 2:41:26.080 --> 2:41:28.480 right there, the Steelers do a great job of draft. 2:41:28.560 --> 2:41:32.440 And I just don't I just don't see Budd Dupreet slide. 2:41:32.640 --> 2:41:35.039 He was the tenth best player on my board. All right, 2:41:35.120 --> 2:41:38.320 here's what they've got on their depth chart at outside linebacker, 2:41:38.520 --> 2:41:42.600 Arthur Moates, who was unrestricted free action from Buffalo, James 2:41:42.680 --> 2:41:45.160 Harrison and Jarvis Jones, of course, was a first round 2:41:45.200 --> 2:41:47.680 draft pick two years ago. And you hate to call 2:41:48.280 --> 2:41:50.760 h you hate to use the bust word, but he's 2:41:50.800 --> 2:41:54.080 not listed first team there. James Jarvis Jones has been 2:41:54.120 --> 2:41:56.680 a bus for a top two Georgie kid. Right, yeah, yeah, 2:41:57.080 --> 2:41:59.320 see that's what I think that, Like I said, when 2:41:59.320 --> 2:42:02.520 you look at theirs according to my deal, cornerback, we 2:42:02.680 --> 2:42:06.560 talked about Jones being a potential there. But the outside 2:42:06.600 --> 2:42:09.600 linebacker rusher, you know that that would be need number 2:42:09.640 --> 2:42:13.840 two in safety. Being the fact that they lost Troy Polamalou. 2:42:14.080 --> 2:42:16.120 I think that you know that you'd have to say 2:42:16.560 --> 2:42:19.240 that that Collins could be a guy here. But I 2:42:19.400 --> 2:42:23.480 just Budd Dupre of all the guys that are left. Again, 2:42:23.560 --> 2:42:26.199 Brian brought his tenth best player on his top fifty. 2:42:26.680 --> 2:42:28.800 Bud Dupre makes a hell of a lot of sense 2:42:28.879 --> 2:42:32.400 for me at that outside linebacker spot that could be 2:42:32.480 --> 2:42:35.520 a rusher. And Dupres for me was eighteen on my board. 2:42:35.600 --> 2:42:37.400 So we're getting into the area where I think he 2:42:37.520 --> 2:42:40.160 makes a lot of sense. Um, it's hard to find 2:42:40.200 --> 2:42:42.680 players that are better than Dupris at this point, especially 2:42:42.720 --> 2:42:46.240 pass rushers right a position we know that not too 2:42:46.320 --> 2:42:48.520 many teams are set and say and we don't need 2:42:48.560 --> 2:42:51.840 a pass rusher. So pick is in for Pittsburgh. Be 2:42:51.959 --> 2:42:55.440 interesting to see what they do here. Landon Collins is 2:42:55.480 --> 2:42:59.160 a guy safety from Alabama who's sliding on down here. 2:42:59.160 --> 2:43:02.240 It's like, though I did that Landing Collins is wrong. 2:43:02.480 --> 2:43:05.400 He's a strong safety. Yeah, that's where you know, if 2:43:05.400 --> 2:43:07.120 you want to drive, if you want a guy, I'd 2:43:07.120 --> 2:43:09.840 play him an outside linebacker if it was me. Definitely 2:43:09.879 --> 2:43:13.720 in your nickels him, put him as an outside linebacker. Buchanon. Yeah, 2:43:13.720 --> 2:43:18.200 they're to start exactly exactly. Yeah, the Steelers, and they're 2:43:18.200 --> 2:43:20.520 showing a graphic here about the secondary and guys that 2:43:20.959 --> 2:43:24.440 that they've you know, that they've gone through and stuff. Now, 2:43:24.520 --> 2:43:26.840 so yeah, I think along those lines with Landon Collins, 2:43:26.920 --> 2:43:29.880 there's the role that you have for him his rookie year, 2:43:30.120 --> 2:43:34.000 and then he becomes your strong safety. I mean even 2:43:34.360 --> 2:43:36.680 when you've got to in the Cowboys situation, you got 2:43:36.720 --> 2:43:40.440 two safeties in Church and Wilcox. But but the Cowboys 2:43:40.520 --> 2:43:43.080 have been in search of that free safety forever. Yes, 2:43:43.480 --> 2:43:46.080 And and the free safety might come from a kid 2:43:46.160 --> 2:43:48.840 at Arizona State, Marius Rand. Yeah, that might be the 2:43:48.920 --> 2:43:51.400 best free safety. And depending on you know, if you 2:43:51.480 --> 2:43:54.880 want to move some guys around. But he's got some 2:43:55.000 --> 2:43:58.279 corner skills too. Absolutely, he does yeah, I'm in the Nickel. Absolutely. 2:43:58.280 --> 2:44:00.160 We talked about the safety class. If you don't get 2:44:00.200 --> 2:44:02.200 your safety early, you're not getting your safety in this 2:44:02.320 --> 2:44:05.480 class in just a weak position. So that's why landing 2:44:05.520 --> 2:44:08.440 Collins the Marius Randall good chance. We could hear their 2:44:08.520 --> 2:44:12.000 names here shortly in the first round, later part of 2:44:12.040 --> 2:44:17.080 the first round. Yeah, they're just kind of talking about 2:44:17.120 --> 2:44:18.959 things right now. This pick's been in for a while though, 2:44:19.000 --> 2:44:22.160 hadn't in as it are they still on the clock. 2:44:23.080 --> 2:44:24.640 I felt like that they had already the pick had 2:44:24.640 --> 2:44:28.360 been in. There is in, Yeah, and they're making their way. 2:44:28.840 --> 2:44:33.840 Here comes the commissioner with the twenty second pick in 2:44:33.920 --> 2:44:40.840 the twenty fifteen NFL Draft, the Pittsburgh Steelers select Bud Dupris. 2:44:41.560 --> 2:44:44.640 We go, mine, there we go. We wasn't gonna slide 2:44:44.760 --> 2:44:47.840 much longer now, sure wasn't sure. Wasn't at all perfect 2:44:47.879 --> 2:44:51.640 pick for Pittsburgh right there, considering their situation at outside linebacker. 2:44:53.000 --> 2:44:57.000 So Detroit is up. It's Detroit, followed by Arizona at 2:44:57.040 --> 2:45:01.000 twenty four, Carolina twenty five, Baltimore twenty and then Dallas. 2:45:01.080 --> 2:45:05.640 So four picks before the Cowboys. Now this is interesting. 2:45:05.959 --> 2:45:12.640 Twenty three, the Lions. We have a trade. Yeah, yeah, 2:45:12.920 --> 2:45:16.480 Denver's now on the clock. So who's Denver going up 2:45:16.520 --> 2:45:19.240 to get ahead of Arizona. It's either a tackle or 2:45:19.480 --> 2:45:22.680 it's uh someone on defense. It's it's it's a v 2:45:22.760 --> 2:45:25.120 it's got to be a defensive player. They've got age 2:45:25.640 --> 2:45:29.320 at that at their you know, maybe could this be 2:45:29.440 --> 2:45:32.280 where they're talking about, you know, uh looking at a 2:45:32.320 --> 2:45:35.000 guy what was outside linebacker? They lost the pre just 2:45:35.240 --> 2:45:39.680 then maybe who would be the next best uh edge 2:45:39.959 --> 2:45:43.440 rusher that's potentially could be an outside linebacker? Did they 2:45:43.440 --> 2:45:47.800 feel good about Randy Gregory, about Shane How about Shane Ray? 2:45:49.959 --> 2:45:51.840 I had that in my mock draft. So did you yeah, 2:45:51.840 --> 2:45:55.720 you'd be all for that? Yeah? I think. I mean, 2:45:55.879 --> 2:45:57.800 to me, you've got to look at if you're if 2:45:57.840 --> 2:46:01.440 you're there. They obviously would when in when Bud Dupree 2:46:01.520 --> 2:46:04.800 went off, they're thinking about, okay, wait, we can't lose 2:46:04.879 --> 2:46:07.640 the next best guy, so let me see here. And 2:46:07.680 --> 2:46:11.000 I think the bigger concern for teams and outside rusher, 2:46:11.240 --> 2:46:12.960 I mean, that would be one of Denver's needs if 2:46:12.959 --> 2:46:14.800 they go on the close. The incident for Shane Ray 2:46:14.920 --> 2:46:18.040 this week is not something that is a concern. I 2:46:18.080 --> 2:46:20.200 don't think the NFL team. It's one of those things 2:46:20.240 --> 2:46:22.200 where if you were on the fence with Shane Ray, 2:46:22.680 --> 2:46:26.200 it worries you a little bit. But if you if 2:46:26.240 --> 2:46:28.760 you know his background, it's not the greatest background to 2:46:28.840 --> 2:46:32.560 begin with. And what sets up really interesting though two here, guys, 2:46:32.760 --> 2:46:36.360 is with Detroit now getting out of that pick, that 2:46:36.560 --> 2:46:38.680 was a team that could looked at a cornerback. Ye, 2:46:39.080 --> 2:46:42.080 so you know you look at with with the pick 2:46:42.200 --> 2:46:45.840 now going to Denver, you know, not needing a quarterback, 2:46:45.920 --> 2:46:48.200 but that takes Detroit out of the mix, puts them 2:46:48.480 --> 2:46:53.560 behind Dallas at twenty eight. So that's gotta be something 2:46:53.600 --> 2:46:55.600 that you gotta maybe dodge a little bit of a 2:46:55.680 --> 2:46:58.120 bullet there Detroit not making a pick. We have the 2:46:58.280 --> 2:47:01.760 terms of the trade. What Denver I have not. I've 2:47:01.840 --> 2:47:04.280 not seen that. I've not seen that. It was a 2:47:04.360 --> 2:47:08.000 small move, small move from twenty eight to twenty three. 2:47:08.760 --> 2:47:11.520 On the third, let's see what they think. My man 2:47:11.680 --> 2:47:15.200 Dave Helmet took off and left our lefty. Bill. You 2:47:15.280 --> 2:47:17.880 got that right in front of you there. Let's see Baltom. 2:47:18.080 --> 2:47:21.600 I mean, Denver six sixty moved up to seven sixty. 2:47:21.600 --> 2:47:26.120 So one hundred points, so they would be a fourth 2:47:26.400 --> 2:47:30.320 early fourth and yeah, late third. So thirty two thirty 2:47:30.320 --> 2:47:32.080 two would that be the number that they would go with. 2:47:32.120 --> 2:47:35.880 A hundred is is the value to move up? So 2:47:36.000 --> 2:47:38.400 they just need one hundred points there, Yeah, and that's 2:47:38.480 --> 2:47:42.680 one thirty two for their third round pick. What was 2:47:42.720 --> 2:47:44.560 the what was in the trade to go up two 2:47:44.600 --> 2:47:46.720 spots to get Gordon? We never saw it. What did 2:47:46.760 --> 2:47:50.640 they get? That was fifth? Next year? Right? The fifth 2:47:50.680 --> 2:47:53.360 win next Yeah, fifth win next year? I believe it 2:47:53.440 --> 2:47:56.680 is what it was. So anyway, but uh yeah, that's 2:47:56.800 --> 2:47:59.400 uh all right. So so the players, the Cowboys are 2:47:59.440 --> 2:48:04.280 looking at right now, which what guys are they? That's 2:48:04.440 --> 2:48:08.000 Byron Jones is their guy right now? What's the pecking 2:48:08.200 --> 2:48:12.959 order you think? I think that that Byron Jones would 2:48:12.959 --> 2:48:15.800 be their number one guy left on the corners of 2:48:15.879 --> 2:48:19.960 the PJ. Williams, Byron Jones, Okay, Jalen cons and Derby. 2:48:20.000 --> 2:48:22.400 I think that would be their order. Did Byron Jones 2:48:22.480 --> 2:48:25.680 have a first round grade? Yes? He did? Well, I 2:48:25.760 --> 2:48:28.040 mean on my board he did. I don't know about 2:48:28.120 --> 2:48:31.240 their board. What do you think? Well, let's put it 2:48:31.320 --> 2:48:34.000 this way. Randy Gregory, who we think is a first 2:48:34.080 --> 2:48:37.760 round player, right, and Byron Jones are there? Which at direction? 2:48:37.800 --> 2:48:39.240 Do you think the Cowboys although you had him in 2:48:39.320 --> 2:48:41.080 the second round, I had, I had Gregory in the 2:48:41.200 --> 2:48:44.280 second round, I'd second, i'd second round, and well, I 2:48:44.320 --> 2:48:46.640 think Gregory and Jones are both two guys that you 2:48:46.720 --> 2:48:49.000 can see some first round you see second round. I 2:48:49.600 --> 2:48:51.560 think those guys are very close. So if it comes 2:48:51.600 --> 2:48:54.600 down to Byron Jones or Randy Gregory, I don't feel 2:48:54.600 --> 2:48:56.960 confident picking one or the other. Yeah, for the Cowboys, 2:48:57.200 --> 2:48:59.800 I think they might, which is why they're not doing anything. 2:49:02.600 --> 2:49:07.520 Malcolm Brown at defensive tackle, Humphreys and what about the 2:49:07.600 --> 2:49:10.840 Harold kid? Eli Harold there's another name. See, I just 2:49:10.959 --> 2:49:14.400 don't think that they would. I think the highest I 2:49:15.760 --> 2:49:18.080 just believe, Yeah, I believe the highest rated guy on 2:49:18.120 --> 2:49:21.920 their board potentially if you just talk about top ten player. 2:49:22.360 --> 2:49:26.040 Here's the terms of the trade. Two fifths and Manny Ramirez, 2:49:26.080 --> 2:49:28.680 so a player oh Texas, a fifth this year, a 2:49:28.760 --> 2:49:33.039 fifth next year, and a guard. So does that key 2:49:33.160 --> 2:49:36.160 in on who they're taking here? So interesting Denver, a 2:49:36.280 --> 2:49:38.920 team that needed some O line helped traded away an 2:49:38.959 --> 2:49:44.600 offensive lineman, probably for defense. Yeah, I just think that 2:49:44.720 --> 2:49:49.080 to me, it's any of these linebackers the Cowboys would 2:49:49.120 --> 2:49:51.400 consider at twenty seven. Those are the wild cards. I 2:49:51.480 --> 2:49:53.360 think that's a direction where if you get wiped out, 2:49:53.440 --> 2:49:56.320 then you look at the linebackers and if they go, 2:49:56.800 --> 2:50:01.280 I think McKinney, Shack Thompson, Um Kendrick. I think you know, 2:50:01.400 --> 2:50:04.280 it's anyone's guests which linebacker they would prefer at that point. 2:50:05.680 --> 2:50:11.880 Broncos selection. Here we go. The commission Mary Mayans have 2:50:12.000 --> 2:50:16.400 traded the twenty third pick to the Denver Broncos. With 2:50:16.600 --> 2:50:19.240 the twenty third pick in the two thousand and fifteen 2:50:19.400 --> 2:50:27.120 NFL Draft, the Denver Broncos select Shane Ray to get him. 2:50:27.240 --> 2:50:31.520 Once again, Brugler is on his game, Jane Ray to 2:50:31.560 --> 2:50:35.040 the Broncos. Brian said it too. It's uh, Shane Ray. 2:50:35.160 --> 2:50:37.560 It's it's a little risky. But they went up and 2:50:37.600 --> 2:50:40.840 got him a player that a week ago we had 2:50:41.000 --> 2:50:43.240 mocked in the top ten. Yeah, now you get him 2:50:43.240 --> 2:50:45.760 at twenty three. Now, when we look back at this 2:50:45.879 --> 2:50:48.080 a few years from now, it could be a heck 2:50:48.160 --> 2:50:50.400 of a value. Could look like they gave up a 2:50:50.440 --> 2:50:52.480 little too much to go get a player with some 2:50:52.560 --> 2:50:55.440 red flax. Okay, Now, what does Minnesota want with the 2:50:55.520 --> 2:50:59.440 twenty fourth pick? Arizona Arizona Minnesota, here comes, here comes 2:50:59.520 --> 2:51:02.880 the bag d Tred What does Minnesota want with I 2:51:02.920 --> 2:51:06.720 think Arizona Arizona is gonna stand in there and make 2:51:06.760 --> 2:51:10.039 a pick. I don't think they docet went to San 2:51:10.080 --> 2:51:12.680 Francisco and free Yeah, I think they haven't. I don't 2:51:12.720 --> 2:51:16.440 think they resigned Tommy Kelly. So defensive line, yeah, I 2:51:16.480 --> 2:51:19.760 think outside Brown doesn't fit in the three four. Well, 2:51:19.800 --> 2:51:24.760 here here's possible needs. It's outside linebacker, offensive line, inside linebacker. 2:51:25.320 --> 2:51:30.680 So I think that to me, Arizona has always struggled 2:51:30.800 --> 2:51:34.440 with their offensive line. That's a team. Yeah, I mean 2:51:34.480 --> 2:51:39.680 I can up in North Carolina. Yeah, I cam Irving 2:51:39.760 --> 2:51:42.200 was a player I thought made a lot of sense there. 2:51:42.240 --> 2:51:44.960 But obviously he's off the board. So who would be 2:51:45.040 --> 2:51:49.120 the best tackle on your board? Still, Dan Humphries, Yeah, 2:51:50.240 --> 2:51:53.480 that makes Humphries. Could they go guard with can? Would 2:51:53.520 --> 2:51:56.240 that be a surprise shock pick? It would be a surprise. 2:51:56.360 --> 2:51:58.920 That's a little early. Cowboys would be fine with that. Yeah, 2:51:59.080 --> 2:52:01.280 they're fine with Humphrey too. And if you talk about 2:52:01.320 --> 2:52:06.760 outside linebackers, Kendricks Thompson, those kind of guys. I just 2:52:06.920 --> 2:52:10.160 think that they they've already got in Buchanan. See I 2:52:10.240 --> 2:52:13.320 think Thompson right now to start off with, especially in 2:52:13.360 --> 2:52:16.240 the three, well, three four, he'd playing inside, I guess, 2:52:16.520 --> 2:52:21.160 but he's I think his rookie year, he's your nickel linebacker. 2:52:22.040 --> 2:52:24.920 As I'm picturing him here in Dallas, he would be 2:52:25.240 --> 2:52:28.360 right in the nickel and as he works his way 2:52:28.400 --> 2:52:30.600 into the lean playmaker. What do you guys think the 2:52:30.640 --> 2:52:33.440 Cowboys are going through right now? Three picks away? Are 2:52:33.520 --> 2:52:36.120 they looking at trading down? No? Already, No, I don't 2:52:36.120 --> 2:52:39.920 think so. Is there a chance they're looking to we 2:52:40.080 --> 2:52:43.320 might be over rating Byron Jones on their board. It's possible, Yeah, 2:52:43.360 --> 2:52:45.880 we might. We might be overrating with Byron Jones is 2:52:45.920 --> 2:52:49.440 on their board. I think they like Malcolm Brown. I 2:52:49.520 --> 2:52:51.080 just have a feeling they like. I don't see them 2:52:51.160 --> 2:52:54.879 taking a look at him as versatile, but he's really 2:52:55.360 --> 2:52:57.640 he plays as really the best as a one technique. 2:52:58.240 --> 2:52:59.760 I mean, I agree, he's versatile. I think he could 2:52:59.760 --> 2:53:02.920 play anywhere from the zero to five realistically, But the 2:53:03.000 --> 2:53:05.720 Cowboys obviously they don't have him as a one in 2:53:05.800 --> 2:53:08.400 a three. They have him pegged I think probably as 2:53:08.400 --> 2:53:10.760 A one. I think they probably do, and so isn't 2:53:10.800 --> 2:53:13.440 the rule though, if you don't have anybody left on 2:53:13.640 --> 2:53:17.560 your first round board that you get out, it's possible. 2:53:18.000 --> 2:53:19.880 Is it possible they don't have a bad left but 2:53:20.040 --> 2:53:23.119 they're picking second round guys anyway at twenty seven? Yeah, 2:53:23.959 --> 2:53:28.280 there's only there's not typically eighteen first round grade. Yeah, right, 2:53:28.720 --> 2:53:31.680 so so you're picking a round guy anyway. When when 2:53:32.320 --> 2:53:34.520 the noise was made about Travis Frederick, well they had 2:53:34.560 --> 2:53:37.800 a second round grade on him? Well, yeah, because yeah, 2:53:37.840 --> 2:53:39.960 there are first round very few first round first round 2:53:40.000 --> 2:53:44.280 grades ended before twenty Yeah. I'm just if you, if 2:53:44.280 --> 2:53:46.480 you're the Cowboys, are you thinking about moving up a 2:53:46.520 --> 2:53:48.440 few spots to get a guy that you're I'm wondering 2:53:48.480 --> 2:53:51.760 if it's Byron Jones, Byron Jone? Yeah, Randy Gregory, Well, 2:53:52.080 --> 2:53:54.400 do you move up a little bit to get him? Guarantee? Well, 2:53:54.440 --> 2:53:57.960 the team's between you now, Baltimore twenty six worries me. 2:53:58.560 --> 2:53:59.720 I think they have a lot of the same needs. 2:53:59.800 --> 2:54:02.920 Could go corner, could go pass Rusher. So do you 2:54:03.080 --> 2:54:05.880 move up two spots to get to Carolina? I think 2:54:05.959 --> 2:54:08.320 I think they're sitting. I think they're gonna sit this one. 2:54:08.400 --> 2:54:11.520 I don't see. I don't see. I'd see Carolina is 2:54:11.560 --> 2:54:13.240 standing in there and making a pick. And if if 2:54:13.320 --> 2:54:16.520 that's the case, then that tells you that they feel 2:54:16.600 --> 2:54:20.520 comfortable with multiple guys here. They feel comfortable with multiple 2:54:20.560 --> 2:54:26.120 players who okay, who behind them? Who behind them could 2:54:26.200 --> 2:54:29.400 jump them and get and get Jones of the of 2:54:29.480 --> 2:54:31.560 the guys left. I mean, you look at the teams 2:54:31.760 --> 2:54:36.720 New England, US, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Green Bay, Indianapolis, and Detroit. 2:54:37.600 --> 2:54:40.720 Detroit's behind you and they could use a corner. But 2:54:40.920 --> 2:54:44.520 I just don't see. The only team I see potentially 2:54:44.720 --> 2:54:47.519 diving out or getting out of there could be Baltimore. 2:54:47.720 --> 2:54:49.720 I think Carolina stands in there and makes a pick. 2:54:50.400 --> 2:54:55.800 I really do. Well, we've talked about DJ Humphries for Carolina, 2:54:56.040 --> 2:54:58.320 but if he goes off the board here at Arizona, 2:54:59.200 --> 2:55:03.840 maybe things for Carolina. Yeah, well, well let's see who 2:55:03.879 --> 2:55:07.640 this Arizona pick is if it ever gets announced. Somebody 2:55:07.720 --> 2:55:14.040 just said something hilariously funny in the Cowboys room. Well 2:55:14.040 --> 2:55:16.160 I think that again. I think they're talking about Randy 2:55:16.200 --> 2:55:19.600 Gregory on the draft ship. Yeah, yeah, if they're listening, 2:55:19.920 --> 2:55:22.320 you think they're listening. I just think that. You know, Steven, 2:55:22.400 --> 2:55:24.760 you hear that those idiots are talking about Randy Gregor. 2:55:25.240 --> 2:55:27.240 They haven't even mentioned the guy that we're talking about. 2:55:28.879 --> 2:55:33.000 Look at you know the other thing when you're considering 2:55:33.080 --> 2:55:38.280 either Byron Jones or Gregory, just the difference in makeup 2:55:38.360 --> 2:55:41.680 of the of the two players, take the position away 2:55:41.720 --> 2:55:44.640 and all that. I mean, it's a squeaky clean Byron 2:55:44.760 --> 2:55:47.640 Jones thirty three on the wonderlick? Is that what it wasn't? 2:55:48.200 --> 2:55:51.280 And then Gregory is sitting there with a he didn't 2:55:51.320 --> 2:55:56.040 know who Darren Woodson was though that ye can't be 2:55:56.160 --> 2:56:00.520 that smart? Which is better value Dane greg at this point, 2:56:00.720 --> 2:56:03.600 Gregory or Jones. Gregory or Jones if they if they 2:56:03.680 --> 2:56:05.920 both get to twenty seven. And I've been on record 2:56:06.000 --> 2:56:08.640 from the start of this draft that Gregory's going to 2:56:08.720 --> 2:56:12.280 be a bust. Yeah, well he's already been busted. Yeah 2:56:13.680 --> 2:56:17.400 with Gregory, if you're I like him. I like Gregory 2:56:17.400 --> 2:56:20.400 I the talent better, but I also like him better 2:56:20.440 --> 2:56:25.440 in a three four now if man on a good day, 2:56:26.160 --> 2:56:31.160 now can he play strong side linebacker? And like the 2:56:31.240 --> 2:56:39.520 Vikings fifteen NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select dj Humphrey. 2:56:39.640 --> 2:56:41.680 There you go. Yeah, one of you called that. Who 2:56:41.800 --> 2:56:45.360 called that brought us? We're talking him. They both they 2:56:45.440 --> 2:56:48.440 just nail every pick, it's all they do. So now 2:56:48.520 --> 2:56:52.320 we're talking with uh two picks away. Yeah, and I 2:56:52.680 --> 2:56:55.400 told you guys, I think Carolina stands in there. I 2:56:55.480 --> 2:56:57.600 think so too. I think, so what do they need? Well, 2:56:57.840 --> 2:57:01.520 and we look at offensive line, we look at defense, 2:57:01.640 --> 2:57:05.760 and on defense, they've brought in a few players. Uh, 2:57:06.760 --> 2:57:11.400 Shack Thompson, a linebacker who could be a Thomas Davis 2:57:11.480 --> 2:57:16.080 type of player for them. Yeah, Carolina looking at offensive tackle, safety, 2:57:16.240 --> 2:57:20.680 wide receiver, linebacker would be uh something in the sub 2:57:20.800 --> 2:57:24.320 they're looking for, like a sub linebacker, right. Jack Thompson 2:57:24.400 --> 2:57:27.040 makes some sense played as a sub backer they brought. 2:57:27.240 --> 2:57:30.160 They brought him in, and so I think you have 2:57:30.280 --> 2:57:33.280 to keep that in mind. Safety's a possibility here. But 2:57:33.560 --> 2:57:35.720 now I'm with you. I think if they're not gonna 2:57:35.720 --> 2:57:38.320 go offensive line with with DJ Humphries, I think DJ 2:57:38.440 --> 2:57:41.160 Humphries would have been the pick. Yeah, Charlotte native, they 2:57:41.240 --> 2:57:44.000 need offensive line help. Um, But with him off the 2:57:44.040 --> 2:57:46.800 board here at Arizona, I agree. I think Shack Thompson 2:57:46.879 --> 2:57:48.959 makes some sense. And I think some Cowboys fans would 2:57:48.959 --> 2:57:51.760 be uh more than okay with Shack Thompson going off 2:57:51.800 --> 2:57:55.440 the board. So you got Malcolm Brown, Byron Jones, and 2:57:55.680 --> 2:58:00.160 Randy Gregory. I'm sitting I'm I mean Dallas. I mean, 2:58:00.200 --> 2:58:03.760 they could try and be aggressive here and and maybe 2:58:03.840 --> 2:58:07.040 make Baltimore. But I think they're gonna get their guy, 2:58:07.879 --> 2:58:10.520 depending on who their guy here. It's on the phone. Yeah, 2:58:11.280 --> 2:58:14.000 I mean they might, they might be see I think 2:58:14.120 --> 2:58:16.520 Dallas makes a pick at twenty seven, then I like 2:58:16.680 --> 2:58:19.120 them trading up in the second instead of waiting all 2:58:19.160 --> 2:58:22.280 the way to sixty to get to running back. Yes, 2:58:23.360 --> 2:58:27.440 you know how bad I want to running back. It'll 2:58:27.480 --> 2:58:30.400 be interesting to see. I mean Baltimore, you know, I 2:58:30.560 --> 2:58:34.360 think Byron Jones definitely. You know, they're sitting on Byron Jones. 2:58:34.720 --> 2:58:37.160 There's I think they're sitting on Barron. They're waiting them 2:58:37.160 --> 2:58:39.920 out and yeah if if if he falls to them, 2:58:40.040 --> 2:58:44.440 that's a that's a heck of a pick if it happens. Yeah, 2:58:44.600 --> 2:58:46.520 I mean I think that they're I think they're sitting 2:58:47.080 --> 2:58:49.840 on Byron Jones right now and hoping that he makes 2:58:49.879 --> 2:58:52.920 it and hoping that Baltimore, uh, you know, or the 2:58:53.240 --> 2:58:55.520 the in front of them, doesn't you know get taken. 2:58:55.560 --> 2:58:57.360 I mean there's some high fives going on in this 2:58:57.520 --> 2:58:59.560 war room. What's what do you think's going on here? 2:58:59.800 --> 2:59:04.680 We we've talked about we talked about the see anything 2:59:04.680 --> 2:59:06.840 about a trade, the first round board getting wiped out, 2:59:07.240 --> 2:59:13.480 your options limited. But one of these guys fall to you. Yeah, 2:59:13.560 --> 2:59:17.320 they've got their guy. They know the Carolina shakes all 2:59:17.360 --> 2:59:19.120 around the if they made a trade. No, they know 2:59:19.200 --> 2:59:22.600 what Carolina and Baltimore are doing. Okay, they got their guy. Yeah. 2:59:22.760 --> 2:59:28.600 I think to me once once that it was once 2:59:28.680 --> 2:59:31.920 that that they kind of saw things sliding down the board, 2:59:32.520 --> 2:59:35.480 and it be interesting what Carolina is it's defense too, 2:59:35.680 --> 2:59:40.440 it's it's it's gotta be Yeah, they got their guy. Yeah, 2:59:40.640 --> 2:59:43.440 this is gonna be again. But we got who do 2:59:43.520 --> 2:59:45.840 we have on the clock right now? The lineup still 2:59:45.879 --> 2:59:48.320 Carolina picks in and they must have got win too. 2:59:48.360 --> 2:59:51.640 What Baltimore is doing somehow, well, yeah, he probably called Hardball, 2:59:52.120 --> 2:59:54.960 well let's talk about let's talk about let's talk about Baltimore. 2:59:54.959 --> 2:59:58.400 Though John Garrett was on the phone with somebody who 2:59:58.400 --> 3:00:00.879 probably was on the phone with Hardball, and Hardball said, yeah, 3:00:00.920 --> 3:00:04.240 we're taking this guy. Okay, yeah, yeah, somebody else he 3:00:04.360 --> 3:00:06.600 knows there. Yeah, I think that. I think that that 3:00:06.800 --> 3:00:09.520 Hecky interviewed for the job. He may not, he may 3:00:09.640 --> 3:00:11.800 talk to the owner. They sat right there, we talked 3:00:11.840 --> 3:00:13.800 about having to make a move up now in fact, 3:00:13.879 --> 3:00:16.279 this is Byron Jones. Now they still got a sweat. 3:00:16.360 --> 3:00:19.280 Evidently they got their guy. Just looking at war room camp, yeah, 3:00:19.280 --> 3:00:22.600 they've got And we've talked about Carolina needing a sub backer, 3:00:23.040 --> 3:00:26.959 maybe Shack Thompson, maybe Kendricks, one of those kinds of guys, 3:00:27.600 --> 3:00:31.359 an outside linebacker. And this clearly means that Orlando Scandric 3:00:31.360 --> 3:00:36.800 will show up to practice the offseason work on Monday, right, yeah, yeah, exactly, 3:00:36.959 --> 3:00:40.240 that's over. Yeah, So I mean I would be uh, 3:00:40.760 --> 3:00:44.119 I would be uh, you know if it fact again, 3:00:44.200 --> 3:00:47.080 everybody in the word to me, they sweated a guy. 3:00:47.320 --> 3:00:48.920 Just looking at this right now. I know we got 3:00:49.000 --> 3:00:51.400 some picks to them, but just looking at it right now, 3:00:51.480 --> 3:00:54.600 they sweated some guys and they and evidently they got 3:00:54.680 --> 3:00:57.680 their guy. So we'll see how that all plays out. 3:00:58.160 --> 3:01:01.240 But it looks like to me a lot of happy 3:01:01.320 --> 3:01:04.720 folks in that war room for sure. I like Malcolm Brown, 3:01:04.720 --> 3:01:06.959 who do who do you who do you Byron? You're 3:01:06.959 --> 3:01:10.440 thinking Byron Jones, I think, yeah, myself, I prefer a 3:01:10.520 --> 3:01:13.640 defensive lineman. Yeah, and I prefer Malcolm Brown. I'm just 3:01:13.800 --> 3:01:16.200 on record. This Oklahoma Sooner is on record saying I 3:01:16.280 --> 3:01:19.840 prefer the Texas Longhorn. Although I like Byron Jones a lot, 3:01:19.879 --> 3:01:22.960 I say, I prefer a world record broad jump. Yeah, 3:01:23.200 --> 3:01:26.560 I think for what was it twelve three three yeah, 3:01:27.200 --> 3:01:29.320 forty four and a half inch vertical. And you know, 3:01:29.360 --> 3:01:32.600 we talk about workout warrior, and it is Byron Jones. 3:01:32.879 --> 3:01:36.119 Just a guy that has the measurables, but his tape 3:01:36.160 --> 3:01:38.800 matches up. He can play press, he can play his zone. 3:01:39.040 --> 3:01:41.840 The way he stays in phase with receivers is terrific. 3:01:42.120 --> 3:01:44.320 And he can play with any type of receiver, doesn't 3:01:44.320 --> 3:01:46.640 matter if it's a small guy, big guy. He can 3:01:46.720 --> 3:01:50.240 play with any type type of receivers. So they just 3:01:50.320 --> 3:01:52.840 got a heck of a corner, right, another wrinkle with 3:01:52.959 --> 3:01:58.840 this and go to the pick. Yeah, yeah, Carolina. This 3:01:59.000 --> 3:02:05.680 is interesting. Named in his honor, The Walter Payton the 3:02:05.800 --> 3:02:09.400 NFL Man of the Year Award recognizes a players community 3:02:09.480 --> 3:02:15.039 service and playing excellence. It is the most prestigious award 3:02:15.160 --> 3:02:19.200 a player can receive to announce the selection for the 3:02:19.320 --> 3:02:22.560 Carolina Panthers, we are proud to have with us tonight 3:02:23.120 --> 3:02:34.880 the twenty fourteen Man of the Year Thomas status. Thank 3:02:34.920 --> 3:02:38.680 you for Commissioner went into Watson Payton Man of the 3:02:38.760 --> 3:02:41.440 Year award was truly the highest honor for me and 3:02:41.520 --> 3:02:46.080 my family. What it did. It gave me an opportunity 3:02:46.160 --> 3:02:52.200 with my foundation, so much support from the Commissioner, from 3:02:52.400 --> 3:02:56.560 the Carolina Panthers and from nationwide. And with that support, 3:02:56.959 --> 3:02:59.480 we've been able to excel and take my foundation to 3:02:59.640 --> 3:03:03.200 new high and again, Commissioner, I thank you guys for that. 3:03:09.200 --> 3:03:13.320 And now with the twenty fifth pick in the two 3:03:13.360 --> 3:03:18.480 thousand and fifteen NFL Draft, the Carolina Panther select Shack 3:03:18.600 --> 3:03:24.200 Thompson linebacker. Yeah, Thomas Davison is maybe replacement down the road, 3:03:24.400 --> 3:03:29.160 Yeah exactly, not surpribly. We talked about, you know, guys, 3:03:29.240 --> 3:03:32.600 needing uh now made him made a sub linebacker. This 3:03:32.720 --> 3:03:35.760 guy is, I mean he is a run hit, cover 3:03:35.959 --> 3:03:39.720 guy and so uh Shack Thompson guy. I think the 3:03:39.800 --> 3:03:43.240 Cowboys liked as well. But uh now you got it 3:03:43.360 --> 3:03:46.520 by Byron Jones. Where where do they play him? Initially, 3:03:47.240 --> 3:03:49.200 I mean he's a corner. He's a corner, and so 3:03:49.520 --> 3:03:52.640 I know he did play a little safety um at Yukon. 3:03:53.080 --> 3:03:54.960 I like him a corner. I'm not moving him. He's 3:03:54.959 --> 3:03:58.160 in a corner um. Like I was saying before, he 3:03:58.200 --> 3:04:00.280 can play with any type of receiver. And and you're 3:04:00.320 --> 3:04:04.720 playing in a division with Odell Beckham, with Nelson Aglore. 3:04:04.840 --> 3:04:07.400 Now I think you need a player like this. And 3:04:08.040 --> 3:04:11.199 we talked about the Cowboys selecting players that are clean 3:04:11.320 --> 3:04:15.640 off the field. And Byron Jones is Captain America. He's 3:04:15.959 --> 3:04:17.800 he's a boy scouting, so I think it goes along 3:04:17.920 --> 3:04:20.920 with keeping mind he played for Paul Pasqualoni at Yukon, yeah, 3:04:20.959 --> 3:04:23.480 earlier in his career, right, And we're gonna hear a 3:04:23.520 --> 3:04:25.920 lot about workout warrior. We're going to hear those two 3:04:25.959 --> 3:04:29.760 words associated with Byron Jones. I promise you it's not that. No, 3:04:30.280 --> 3:04:32.480 not at all. We're talking about a player with a 3:04:32.520 --> 3:04:35.640 tape matches up. Now. We haven't heard much about him. 3:04:35.720 --> 3:04:38.320 We didn't hear much about him in January because he 3:04:38.440 --> 3:04:40.960 was hurt. He was invited to the Senior Bowl, but 3:04:41.040 --> 3:04:44.000 he could not participate because of the shoulder. He was 3:04:44.040 --> 3:04:47.280 at the combine, couldn't run the forty, but he did 3:04:47.400 --> 3:04:50.240 do other drills, and he played for a team that 3:04:50.480 --> 3:04:53.040 was terrible at Yakon. Absolutely, and so I think that's 3:04:53.080 --> 3:04:54.800 why he went under the radar. A little bit doesn't 3:04:54.800 --> 3:04:57.760 mean it's not a good player. Yeah, I totally agree 3:04:57.760 --> 3:05:00.440 about that. I mean, to me, you know, you watch 3:05:00.600 --> 3:05:03.200 him play and he's a he's one of those guys. 3:05:03.360 --> 3:05:05.960 He's got size. Oh yeah, he's this guy. He's got 3:05:06.040 --> 3:05:08.320 some size. He's physical, and he's a hard guy to 3:05:08.440 --> 3:05:10.840 run away from. I mean when it when you know, 3:05:10.879 --> 3:05:12.720 when you're trying to get up the field on him. 3:05:13.120 --> 3:05:15.200 He's one of those guys that can stay in position 3:05:15.480 --> 3:05:18.520 and stays in phase and yeah, and they go across 3:05:18.600 --> 3:05:20.400 the field on him. He can burn. You know a 3:05:20.480 --> 3:05:22.240 lot of guys. When you watch a guy like Brandon 3:05:22.320 --> 3:05:26.200 car play and there's separation, this guy can plant and 3:05:26.480 --> 3:05:30.400 run and stay in position and make plays deny the football. 3:05:30.520 --> 3:05:33.600 So I think that that's you know, I think that 3:05:34.000 --> 3:05:37.440 they they sweated a picky, they caught a break. There's 3:05:37.440 --> 3:05:40.120 strobbing some people that thought maybe that you know, some 3:05:40.320 --> 3:05:43.560 Peters was a better corner. You know, obviously he went 3:05:43.640 --> 3:05:46.640 earlier to Kansas City. So Cowboys I think got the 3:05:46.680 --> 3:05:50.080 guy they exactly want. I'm frankly, I'm surprised that he's 3:05:50.080 --> 3:05:52.320 available for the Cowboys. I think you're talking about it. 3:05:52.320 --> 3:05:54.360 That's why I think they're so elated in that war 3:05:54.480 --> 3:05:56.800 room right now. I don't think. I don't think there 3:05:56.800 --> 3:06:00.280 are twenty six better players in this draft than Byron Jones. Yeah, 3:06:00.400 --> 3:06:02.840 I'm with you on that. I'm totally with you on that. 3:06:04.280 --> 3:06:07.240 I read some opposite opinions though, which is interesting. There 3:06:07.440 --> 3:06:11.520 there was some. In fact, I saw another team's draft 3:06:11.600 --> 3:06:16.680 board and they had Byron Jones considerably lowers. They had 3:06:16.720 --> 3:06:21.840 ahead of him, a good amount of a couple, a couple. Yeah, 3:06:22.400 --> 3:06:25.000 and that's what that's what, That's what. That's the thing about. 3:06:25.040 --> 3:06:27.160 It is is it gonna be? Is he? You know? 3:06:27.360 --> 3:06:30.600 Was was? Teams had Peters off the board, you know, 3:06:30.680 --> 3:06:33.520 and he went to Kansas City at eighteen. So you know, 3:06:33.680 --> 3:06:36.440 if you who who did you like at corner? You 3:06:36.520 --> 3:06:38.760 know what was your order? Everybody seemed to like the 3:06:38.840 --> 3:06:42.520 Wayne's kid from Michigan State, and then it was Kevin 3:06:42.640 --> 3:06:45.280 Johnson and then okay, who was it? After that? Was 3:06:45.360 --> 3:06:49.879 it Peters? Was it Jones. You know again, this guy's 3:06:50.160 --> 3:06:53.359 a physical football player. All right. Now you're trader Orlando 3:06:53.480 --> 3:06:58.560 Scandrick and your second rounder for Peterson who was with me. Wait, 3:06:58.800 --> 3:07:01.520 Minnesota got Wayne so they already. Bill has to be 3:07:01.640 --> 3:07:05.400 happy though that Jones yet that you would know that 3:07:05.480 --> 3:07:08.320 you didn't get there, you know that it didn't come down. 3:07:08.440 --> 3:07:12.520 I did not see them taking Randy Gregory. I just 3:07:12.680 --> 3:07:15.840 did not see it. This falls right in line with 3:07:16.120 --> 3:07:19.160 the same type of players that they have been drafting 3:07:19.240 --> 3:07:23.720 here recently. Uh, just a high character guy. And Zach 3:07:23.800 --> 3:07:27.640 Martin last year, Travis Frederick the year before. Uh, you know, 3:07:27.920 --> 3:07:31.760 it's it's a Jason Garrett right kind of guy. Last summer, 3:07:32.280 --> 3:07:35.320 a lot of players are kind of relaxing, doing their 3:07:35.320 --> 3:07:38.520 own thing, working out Byron Jones was serving an internship 3:07:38.560 --> 3:07:40.800 at the US Capital. That's the type of player that 3:07:40.920 --> 3:07:44.360 he is. Um, that's that's a type of individual, very 3:07:44.480 --> 3:07:50.680 motivated individual, high character kids. So, uh, I mean twenty 3:07:50.720 --> 3:07:52.880 six hasn't picked yet, But no, I mean we keep 3:07:52.959 --> 3:07:56.240 talking about it. It's done, it's done. Yeah, well I 3:07:56.600 --> 3:07:59.640 believe it now it's done that, you know. But okay, Well, 3:08:00.000 --> 3:08:03.119 thinking about Baltimore, you know we've We've looked at Baltimore 3:08:03.200 --> 3:08:05.320 and I know I've looked at Baltimore and I've always 3:08:05.360 --> 3:08:10.119 thought about wide receiver speed. You know, somebody, uh, somebody 3:08:10.160 --> 3:08:13.560 that could go get the football. You know that the Ravens, 3:08:13.879 --> 3:08:16.400 you look at their team needs corner that might be. 3:08:16.879 --> 3:08:19.720 I know we're kind of celebrating here, but the selections 3:08:19.760 --> 3:08:24.360 in I you're nervous. It's in. I think it's a receiver. 3:08:24.640 --> 3:08:27.760 I really do the corner, receiver, running back with their 3:08:27.840 --> 3:08:31.640 needs Devin Smith in the tournament, I believe in NFL Draft, 3:08:32.560 --> 3:08:37.560 the Baltimore Ravens select for the pyramid. Here we go. Yeah, 3:08:37.800 --> 3:08:40.480 I guarantee you. Garrett was on the phone with somebody 3:08:40.560 --> 3:08:44.240 in the Baltimore organization and they said, we're taking That's 3:08:44.240 --> 3:08:46.600 how they next when they knew that they had their guy. 3:08:47.120 --> 3:08:49.520 And someone was talking to Carolina too. Well, that means 3:08:49.640 --> 3:08:53.520 Dallas is officially on the clock and so and we 3:08:53.640 --> 3:08:57.000 are all speculating here, like the whethers the this they 3:08:57.040 --> 3:09:01.240 could do in the the the election night, we're giving 3:09:01.280 --> 3:09:05.640 the state of Florida too. I'd say what we saw 3:09:05.680 --> 3:09:07.680 in the war room cam a few a few minutes 3:09:07.720 --> 3:09:11.080 ago is what we're feeling right now, Byron Jones is 3:09:11.120 --> 3:09:15.480 on it's still available. Cowboys are on the clock. Yeah, 3:09:15.560 --> 3:09:19.039 that's as It's gonna be a great, a great marriage 3:09:19.040 --> 3:09:21.360 if that's what happens. Isn't it funny how this happens 3:09:21.400 --> 3:09:24.800 where they celebrated ten minutes ago? I mean, how they 3:09:24.920 --> 3:09:27.720 have intelligence Wheah, they can make a call and it's 3:09:27.760 --> 3:09:29.800 easy enough. I mean it'd be like you calling another 3:09:29.840 --> 3:09:32.160 TV stay, So who do you young? What do y'all 3:09:32.160 --> 3:09:35.520 doing today? Now? Nobody takes my calls anymore? Jones, something 3:09:35.600 --> 3:09:38.280 that I'm sure will be asked of Jerry and uh, 3:09:38.520 --> 3:09:40.960 you know, the brain trust. If they got any offers, 3:09:41.240 --> 3:09:43.200 they're not gonna give away particulars. But if they got 3:09:43.240 --> 3:09:46.240 any interesting offers to trade back. But with Byron Jones 3:09:46.280 --> 3:09:48.520 on the board, I don't think clearly, unless something blows 3:09:48.520 --> 3:09:51.920 you away, you take the player. Clearly, there's nobody. They're 3:09:51.959 --> 3:09:54.920 not interested. They're not there's nobody's answering any phones here 3:09:55.000 --> 3:09:56.640 anything like that. They got to trade up in the 3:09:56.680 --> 3:09:58.800 second though, they're gonna wait all the way to say 3:09:59.080 --> 3:10:00.600 do you get that running back? Wait all the way 3:10:00.600 --> 3:10:03.200 to say they're not gonna get Tom there? Well, are 3:10:03.200 --> 3:10:05.480 they gonna get what about Duke Johnson? Are they gonna 3:10:05.480 --> 3:10:08.240 get him there? Yeah? I think that to me, I 3:10:08.440 --> 3:10:11.600 mocked up Dulap thinking that maybe if it didn't stretch. 3:10:11.959 --> 3:10:14.080 But see, that's the thing about it, and we'll know tomorrow. 3:10:14.160 --> 3:10:17.520 We'll know tomorrow night too that what you have is 3:10:18.160 --> 3:10:21.360 teams and we don't like short running backs and Duke 3:10:21.520 --> 3:10:25.240 Johnson falls into that category of a short guy. Pick 3:10:25.480 --> 3:10:28.720 is in that would be Baltimore's pick, right or is 3:10:28.760 --> 3:10:34.080 that Dallas house in? Height is maybe the least important 3:10:34.120 --> 3:10:36.480 quality for a running back, right. Build? Okay, you know 3:10:36.560 --> 3:10:38.440 you can, you can talk me into that. But height. 3:10:38.760 --> 3:10:40.760 Look at Barry Standers, look at look at Himmett, look 3:10:40.760 --> 3:10:42.959 at some of these great running backs you've seen the league. 3:10:43.080 --> 3:10:46.280 If anything, it's it helps you because the you run 3:10:46.360 --> 3:10:51.680 closer to the ground protection type. And I think it 3:10:51.760 --> 3:10:53.800 goes back to build. You know, your overall strength or 3:10:53.840 --> 3:10:56.680 growth potential. Um. You know, obviously if you're shorter, that 3:10:56.840 --> 3:10:59.360 probably means you're you're gonna max out at you know, 3:10:59.480 --> 3:11:01.920 two ten and whatever it is. And that's what and 3:11:02.000 --> 3:11:04.080 that's a worry with a player like Duke Johnson and 3:11:04.120 --> 3:11:07.640 Mirabdulah is uh, they are shorter, but they are leaner too. 3:11:07.720 --> 3:11:10.920 There's only so much bills you can put on them. Boy, 3:11:10.959 --> 3:11:13.920 Abdulah is another one that fits right into this Byron 3:11:14.000 --> 3:11:16.760 Jones type a high character. Well yeah, and if you 3:11:16.840 --> 3:11:19.360 look at Abdulah, though, I felt like that there was 3:11:19.720 --> 3:11:23.360 two teams that I watched where there were huge holes 3:11:23.480 --> 3:11:25.680 every time they ran the football, and that would be 3:11:27.160 --> 3:11:30.120 that would be Nebraska and Wisconsin. So you know when 3:11:30.160 --> 3:11:33.080 he watched Gordon play, you know, he had huge holes 3:11:33.120 --> 3:11:37.760 to run through. But Duke Johnson, boy, that poor guy. 3:11:38.160 --> 3:11:40.520 Other than the left tackle, it was it was tough 3:11:40.600 --> 3:11:43.120 sledding for him, a lot of creating on his own. 3:11:43.320 --> 3:11:45.840 If if if Jerry's right, and they don't feel as 3:11:45.959 --> 3:11:48.640 urgent as some of us do at running back, and 3:11:48.720 --> 3:11:51.680 it goes to the third round beside Langford from Michigan State, 3:11:51.720 --> 3:11:55.280 who who's there the third round? Yeah? If you wait 3:11:55.480 --> 3:11:57.400 to the third round to get the run? Well okay, 3:11:57.400 --> 3:12:00.200 what about yeah? What about you know? Yeah, it's Dvid 3:12:00.280 --> 3:12:03.080 Johnson about Yelden. Would you think Yeldon would be a third? 3:12:03.160 --> 3:12:05.880 I think he's going second. Yeah, but I think you know, 3:12:05.959 --> 3:12:09.200 you feel comfortable waiting at sixty and see follows you, 3:12:09.240 --> 3:12:10.840 I think a running back will fall into them. I do. 3:12:11.240 --> 3:12:16.280 I didn't think. How about Jagi's second and will you 3:12:16.320 --> 3:12:18.640 consider him the third with a knee, right, yeah, I'm 3:12:18.680 --> 3:12:20.160 not taking him at sixty. No, No, I don't think 3:12:20.200 --> 3:12:22.560 this team would either. Cowboys. I don't think the Cowboys 3:12:22.600 --> 3:12:25.000 would at sixty yeah, with that knee. But at ninety 3:12:25.040 --> 3:12:27.960 one you consider it. And that's why you don't feel 3:12:28.000 --> 3:12:29.920 pressured to take a running back at six. I didn't 3:12:29.959 --> 3:12:33.160 feel like it because I took Abdula and I and 3:12:33.280 --> 3:12:35.680 I knowing damn good and well that he would probably 3:12:35.720 --> 3:12:38.640 be gone, you know. But again, I'm banking on the 3:12:38.720 --> 3:12:41.320 short running back. That's why I think Duke Johnson makes 3:12:41.360 --> 3:12:44.720 it to sixty because of the short running back. I 3:12:45.160 --> 3:12:48.320 just I kind of I know you're you're grimacing right 3:12:48.400 --> 3:12:50.480 now about it. You think Coleman makes it to sixty. 3:12:50.640 --> 3:12:52.560 No way, there's no way. I mean I think you 3:12:52.640 --> 3:12:55.480 look at yeah, the Jags in the second, I think 3:12:55.480 --> 3:12:57.680 they're gonna take a running back, the Lions, or possibility 3:12:57.680 --> 3:13:01.320 at the Cardinals. Um, so it's gonna be a long 3:13:01.360 --> 3:13:04.000 shark for Coleman. Uh and probably even Duke Johnson. Let's 3:13:04.000 --> 3:13:06.400 be honest, it's it's gonna be We will be swepting 3:13:06.440 --> 3:13:09.160 that out tomorrow. How that plays out. Yeah, By the way, 3:13:09.160 --> 3:13:10.640 as soon as they make the pick, I'm gonna have 3:13:10.720 --> 3:13:13.160 to run out of here. It's ten o'clock. Yeah, you 3:13:13.200 --> 3:13:17.920 know where you do? You know where your sports aker is. Yeah, 3:13:18.040 --> 3:13:20.440 so I'm gonna have to head down to the interview 3:13:20.560 --> 3:13:22.000 room here in just a second. But I want to 3:13:22.040 --> 3:13:25.320 hear the pick. Yeah, I I you know again that 3:13:25.440 --> 3:13:27.119 they you know, if you look at the war room cam, 3:13:27.200 --> 3:13:29.760 everybody's very excited. This is a player that obviously they 3:13:29.840 --> 3:13:32.720 had uh sitting on their board that they felt like 3:13:32.879 --> 3:13:36.760 it probably was the third best corner there, you know. 3:13:36.879 --> 3:13:38.160 And the fact that that you know, there was a 3:13:38.200 --> 3:13:41.240 lot of people didn't think that the cornerback would stretch 3:13:41.400 --> 3:13:44.400 that far. You know, I know that we we trade 3:13:44.480 --> 3:13:47.000 made a small trade up to get a guy. We 3:13:47.120 --> 3:13:48.920 made a trade up twenty one and Byron Jones is 3:13:48.959 --> 3:13:51.840 already off the board. Yeah, we Byron Jones is the 3:13:51.879 --> 3:13:54.080 player that Again, I don't think there are twenty six 3:13:54.200 --> 3:13:56.680 better players in this draft than Byron Jones, right, So 3:13:57.360 --> 3:14:00.200 you know that's that and that's good and if that's gain, 3:14:00.200 --> 3:14:03.800 if that's the pick. Again, weird speculating. Here we go here, Commissioner. 3:14:05.160 --> 3:14:09.720 The twenty seventh pick to fifteen NFL Draft, the Dallas 3:14:09.840 --> 3:14:15.400 Cowboys select Byron Jones, defensive beck of the pick, Connecticut 3:14:16.120 --> 3:14:20.080 six to one, one hundred ninety nine pounds and the 3:14:20.320 --> 3:14:24.040 hero of the combine numbers from Byron Jones forty four 3:14:24.160 --> 3:14:29.240 and a half vertical, a world record twelve three broad jump, 3:14:29.680 --> 3:14:33.120 a three nine four twenty yard short shuttle, and a 3:14:33.320 --> 3:14:38.080 six seven eight three comb But he plays athletically, That's 3:14:38.360 --> 3:14:41.960 that's not That's not a a like a guy that 3:14:42.080 --> 3:14:44.720 for three with a one fifty split. Yeah, that's not. 3:14:45.120 --> 3:14:49.440 We've been I mean, okay, we've been. We've been singing 3:14:49.520 --> 3:14:52.520 his praises. But I'll read you some of his week decisions. 3:14:52.520 --> 3:14:55.280 Just it's even this out let's you know, Uh, with 3:14:55.640 --> 3:14:58.119 Byron Jones, you have a player he can get caught 3:14:58.160 --> 3:15:00.959 flat footed at times. He allows his eyes to pay 3:15:01.040 --> 3:15:04.040 rent in the backfield. I mean, he's not a flawless player. 3:15:04.320 --> 3:15:07.120 He does have his flaws, but I think the strengths 3:15:07.160 --> 3:15:11.000 far outway the weaknesses here. You're really the surgery with 3:15:11.040 --> 3:15:14.039 his shoulder is something that obviously they were comfortable with two. 3:15:14.400 --> 3:15:18.000 He missed most of his senior year after shoulder surgery. 3:15:19.280 --> 3:15:21.080 It was what the right shoulder, I believe, and so 3:15:21.400 --> 3:15:23.200 or no the left shoulder. At his pro day he 3:15:23.360 --> 3:15:27.720 was able to do eighteen reps and so Cowboys aren't 3:15:27.720 --> 3:15:32.720 afraid of guys coming in injured. Never happened now. In 3:15:32.959 --> 3:15:37.240 his career his U in two thousan eleven and two twelve, 3:15:37.320 --> 3:15:40.840 he played safety, making twenty starts, and in the last 3:15:40.879 --> 3:15:43.800 two years at Yukon played cornerback. And I think we can. 3:15:43.959 --> 3:15:45.760 I'm sure we'll get these questions, but I think we 3:15:45.800 --> 3:15:47.680 can put at the rest Byron Jones will be a 3:15:47.760 --> 3:15:50.080 cornerback for this team. Yeah. I agree on that too. 3:15:50.800 --> 3:15:54.600 Me for Brandon Carr, some of that leverage moving back 3:15:54.680 --> 3:15:57.600 over to the Cowboys side. They can take another corner 3:15:57.640 --> 3:15:59.680 in this draft, sure, and then what does it mean 3:16:00.600 --> 3:16:04.240 even more to Brandon? For Brandon Carr, I gotta run 3:16:04.320 --> 3:16:07.680 out of here. Yeah, I just you know, yeah, thank you, Bill, 3:16:07.879 --> 3:16:09.600 I tell you what I mean the things. I was 3:16:09.640 --> 3:16:11.520 just going in through it and kind of piggybacking on 3:16:11.600 --> 3:16:14.240 what Dane And we'll have a report up on Dallas 3:16:14.280 --> 3:16:16.960 Cowboys dot Com about Byron Jones and my notes and 3:16:17.040 --> 3:16:19.480 stuff like that. You know, I said physical and the 3:16:19.600 --> 3:16:23.280 press moves well to get in position, nice power to 3:16:23.400 --> 3:16:26.840 hold receiver up, can mirror receiver high point ball pedal 3:16:26.959 --> 3:16:30.120 turn goes smooth, not much wasted motion with this player 3:16:30.160 --> 3:16:32.959 plays with knees or bent. You know, thought maybe if 3:16:33.080 --> 3:16:34.320 you look for a little bit of weak and says 3:16:34.360 --> 3:16:36.600 talking to some people about his balance. There was sometimes 3:16:36.600 --> 3:16:38.720 when we might see a little bit of some stuff 3:16:38.720 --> 3:16:41.280 with his balance. But other than that, read the route 3:16:41.320 --> 3:16:43.600 quick all that. So as you can see, they put 3:16:43.680 --> 3:16:47.920 the cover back over the screen, so we're back to 3:16:48.840 --> 3:16:52.120 looking at as they're doing to quelas shot exactly. Cigars 3:16:52.160 --> 3:16:56.080 are up. Let me reintroduce sorry, Steve Dennis, one of 3:16:56.160 --> 3:17:00.160 our trusted allies here on the break does it out 3:17:00.200 --> 3:17:02.200 of great work on the television side. One of my 3:17:02.320 --> 3:17:05.920 favorite guys, by the way, my roommate at training camp, 3:17:06.000 --> 3:17:08.160 but one of the guys here at Valley Ranch. And 3:17:08.160 --> 3:17:10.520 I'm gonna say this that I always believe one of 3:17:10.560 --> 3:17:12.760 the guys that comes here and did and worked hard 3:17:12.800 --> 3:17:15.160 every day and asked tough questions and I always respect 3:17:15.240 --> 3:17:17.320 you for that. So thank you for joining us today 3:17:17.760 --> 3:17:20.480 and then Dame Brugler from CBS Sports, who's been sitting 3:17:20.520 --> 3:17:23.840 here all night filling your head full of knowledge picking 3:17:23.879 --> 3:17:26.879 these players, giving the idea, going back and forth part 3:17:26.920 --> 3:17:29.960 of the Draft show. Love having him. Kent Garrison and 3:17:30.360 --> 3:17:33.320 Lauren Soaklin there as well. So everybody's here as the 3:17:33.400 --> 3:17:35.960 Cowboys have made the pick, the Lions selection for the 3:17:36.000 --> 3:17:38.480 Lions is up, and we'll go to him. Most people 3:17:38.520 --> 3:17:41.440 had a second sorry about that. I was cheerleading there 3:17:41.440 --> 3:17:45.240 a little bit. Lake and Tomlinson is it's interesting because 3:17:45.320 --> 3:17:48.320 they just received a guard from Denver in that trade, 3:17:48.440 --> 3:17:52.600 right right, and they have a kid from Kentucky that 3:17:52.680 --> 3:17:55.400 we liked a couple years ago to the draft Lincoln 3:17:55.440 --> 3:17:58.840 right on his name at guard Wolford. Yes, Larry Wolford. Yeah, 3:17:59.080 --> 3:18:01.920 so it's an interesting pick right there. He's a very 3:18:02.000 --> 3:18:04.120 clean he might be the cleanest player in this draft. 3:18:04.320 --> 3:18:06.520 You know one comment, I had him in the third 3:18:06.600 --> 3:18:08.440 round though I was a little nervous about that. Yeah, 3:18:08.520 --> 3:18:10.360 I didn't have him that. I didn't have him that high, 3:18:10.720 --> 3:18:12.760 So yeah I did. I thought this again. You talk 3:18:12.800 --> 3:18:14.640 about a guy, he's what's good to med school. He's 3:18:14.680 --> 3:18:17.920 one of those med school guys that He's born Jamaica, right, 3:18:18.040 --> 3:18:20.800 YEA just an interesting story. But again you you're talking 3:18:20.800 --> 3:18:23.440 about it powerful guy. I mean you'll see a powerful guy. 3:18:23.480 --> 3:18:25.600 I don't. I worry a little bit about his pass 3:18:25.720 --> 3:18:29.720 blocking overall. But he is a big physical guy inside. 3:18:29.760 --> 3:18:32.760 But I myself did not have him but in the 3:18:33.120 --> 3:18:36.080 third round, So quick comment on Byron Jones, because you 3:18:36.200 --> 3:18:39.200 guys broke down his abilities on the football field really well. 3:18:39.800 --> 3:18:42.560 I got stuck back here in the hallway at Valley 3:18:42.640 --> 3:18:45.480 Range when Mike Woisick was given him the tour hour 3:18:45.640 --> 3:18:48.800 of the building, and I couldn't move, so I had 3:18:48.879 --> 3:18:53.320 to listen to the conversation that Woisick and Coach Henderson 3:18:53.440 --> 3:18:57.280 had with the kid. You talk about a mature kid, right, 3:18:57.480 --> 3:19:00.520 and not afraid. I mean he was cracking jokes with 3:19:00.640 --> 3:19:04.240 these guys with a big smile. This is not one 3:19:04.280 --> 3:19:07.560 of those young kids that comes in and it all 3:19:07.720 --> 3:19:10.440 seems like, oh my gosh, I'm with the Dallas Cowboys here. 3:19:11.320 --> 3:19:15.360 Huge personality and very mature is what I gathered in 3:19:15.760 --> 3:19:18.280 ten minutes of listening to a conversation here. You're always 3:19:18.400 --> 3:19:21.560 very critical, Steve of the Garrett guy. Not critical in 3:19:21.640 --> 3:19:25.480 the negative way, but critical of like, is this a 3:19:25.680 --> 3:19:29.680 Garrett guy? Is this a Jason Garrett type of a player? 3:19:30.400 --> 3:19:33.400 Byron Jones, You sound like listening to your interaction with 3:19:33.560 --> 3:19:36.240 him was a perfect Jason Garrett. No. The only time 3:19:36.280 --> 3:19:39.920 I get critical of the Garrett guy he preaches that 3:19:40.160 --> 3:19:42.960 and then they signed Greg Hardy. Yeah, that's that's the 3:19:43.040 --> 3:19:45.560 only time I get critical of that, because there's a 3:19:45.640 --> 3:19:49.400 disconnect between the front office and Garrett in my opinion sometimes. 3:19:49.840 --> 3:19:52.280 But yeah, this is definitely the right kind of guy 3:19:52.800 --> 3:19:57.480 Byron Jones. I'm telling you, big personality, big personality coming 3:19:57.560 --> 3:20:01.000 in here. Yeah. Well, I'm excited that. You know again, 3:20:01.240 --> 3:20:03.640 you know, this captain team needed to cornerback. I'm just 3:20:03.760 --> 3:20:07.720 kind of going through, uh the notes here, the people 3:20:07.840 --> 3:20:12.000 tweeting in here on at the Draft show. Uh, you know, 3:20:12.120 --> 3:20:16.880 it seemed very happy about the pick of Byron Jones, 3:20:17.200 --> 3:20:20.720 telling him welcome to Dallas, all those things. Greg Bailey said, 3:20:20.720 --> 3:20:23.080 I called it Byron Jones. You remember discussion of my 3:20:23.240 --> 3:20:25.400 question on the show. I'm sure we'll get a lot 3:20:25.480 --> 3:20:28.480 of folks that the revisionist history. But I think great 3:20:28.520 --> 3:20:31.680 congratulations though, if in fact made that call, I think 3:20:31.720 --> 3:20:35.039 without the Draft show, uh, we might be who knows 3:20:35.120 --> 3:20:36.680 what the reaction might be, but I think you know, 3:20:36.720 --> 3:20:38.960 we've done a good job talking about this players as 3:20:39.000 --> 3:20:42.280 a likely possibility. Yeah, and and again thank you everybody. 3:20:42.280 --> 3:20:44.400 It's kind of followed along with us. Uh. We still 3:20:44.440 --> 3:20:46.800 got picks to be made to finish out this round 3:20:47.360 --> 3:20:50.280 Detroit again, if I could just recap going up to 3:20:50.920 --> 3:20:52.400 let me go up to there was a trade by 3:20:52.520 --> 3:20:56.560 Denver UH to Detroit at twenty three to grab Shane Ray. 3:20:57.240 --> 3:21:00.800 Arizona then took DJ Humphreys. Carol line of followed up 3:21:00.840 --> 3:21:07.360 with Shack Thompson, and then Baltimore took Brichade Perriman and 3:21:07.560 --> 3:21:09.600 the wide receiver from Centralorida. And then that left the 3:21:09.720 --> 3:21:13.280 Cowboys with Byron Jones, who we've been talking about. Denver 3:21:13.480 --> 3:21:16.320 now back excume me Detroit back in the round with 3:21:16.800 --> 3:21:20.600 Denver's pick, and they take Lake and Tomlinson the guard 3:21:20.680 --> 3:21:24.920 from Duke. And so now it means that the Indianapolis 3:21:25.040 --> 3:21:30.440 Colts would be on the clock, Dane thinking about maybe receiver. Here, 3:21:30.640 --> 3:21:32.640 you're I think with the Colts. I think all along 3:21:32.720 --> 3:21:36.200 we've been thinking secondary, maybe pass rush. But I'm with 3:21:36.400 --> 3:21:40.520 you on receiver. I'm with you on maybe adding some 3:21:40.640 --> 3:21:43.959 speed here. Yeah, I don't disagree with you at all, 3:21:44.080 --> 3:21:46.840 right there, I really and for a team that has 3:21:47.000 --> 3:21:49.520 are already on the roster t Y Hilton, plenty of 3:21:49.600 --> 3:21:53.320 speed right there. They drafted the old mis receiver last 3:21:53.400 --> 3:21:56.880 year early, but they could go receiver again here. You 3:21:56.920 --> 3:21:58.800 want to get Andrew luck weapons. You want to be 3:21:58.840 --> 3:22:04.200 able to surround him with playmakers. Perriman's off the board, 3:22:04.280 --> 3:22:09.600 Oglers off the board, thinking Phil Dorset here, Yeah, I 3:22:10.000 --> 3:22:12.160 think that you're talking about and they've and and this 3:22:12.480 --> 3:22:16.760 this team has a history of taking Miami receivers. If 3:22:16.840 --> 3:22:19.760 if you go back and look at and I know, uh, 3:22:19.920 --> 3:22:22.960 Reggie Wayne one of the greatest ever to to to 3:22:23.200 --> 3:22:26.120 lace him up there for the Colts. Uh, this is 3:22:26.160 --> 3:22:28.720 a kid when you talk about and and I love 3:22:28.920 --> 3:22:33.959 or set for the reason of he plays to his speed. 3:22:34.360 --> 3:22:36.600 He is a guy when you watch him run, when 3:22:36.640 --> 3:22:40.480 you watch him run those routes, he plays to his speed. 3:22:40.680 --> 3:22:44.480 And that's that's impressive. That that and and you see 3:22:44.560 --> 3:22:46.959 him when he gets a ball in his hands, he's 3:22:47.000 --> 3:22:51.160 gonna he's gonna run through tackles. He's gonna also, uh, 3:22:51.360 --> 3:22:56.000 you know, separate. This is a really an outstanding, outstanding player. 3:22:56.480 --> 3:22:59.440 We've seen a little run on receivers here. If this 3:22:59.680 --> 3:23:03.200 is who we think it could be talking about what 3:23:03.360 --> 3:23:05.640 six receivers now, well, if you go back and look 3:23:05.720 --> 3:23:10.279 at it started really with Davante Parker at Miami at fourteen. 3:23:11.040 --> 3:23:15.760 Then you had uh Aguilar at Philadelphia twenty and then 3:23:15.920 --> 3:23:20.280 now Perryman at twenty six, and potentially if you if 3:23:20.320 --> 3:23:23.160 you are right, Dane uh, Philip Tor said, and I 3:23:23.840 --> 3:23:28.400 see I see nothing but but positive about him as 3:23:28.520 --> 3:23:31.119 a as a receipt again, I love I love the player. 3:23:31.160 --> 3:23:33.080 I love the way he plays with a chip. I 3:23:33.120 --> 3:23:34.840 think he's got a little bit of one of Miami. 3:23:34.920 --> 3:23:37.160 Those kids, they've all got the swagger. Of course we've 3:23:37.200 --> 3:23:39.920 all known that. But this kid, man, you throw it 3:23:40.040 --> 3:23:42.680 to him and he is going to get it done. 3:23:42.720 --> 3:23:46.640 He can fly, there's no about. Yeah. He worries me somewhat. 3:23:46.879 --> 3:23:49.880 Um can he stay healthy? Uh? He worries me a 3:23:49.879 --> 3:23:52.440 little smaller guy. The ball skills are okay, yeah, they're 3:23:52.480 --> 3:23:55.040 not great, they're not horrible. So but but for a 3:23:55.160 --> 3:23:58.320 guy that runs that fast and you're talking about potentially 3:23:58.440 --> 3:24:02.640 down here at down here at at twenty nine, you know, 3:24:02.879 --> 3:24:05.400 I think that that's where you know you have to 3:24:05.600 --> 3:24:07.840 you start thinking, okay, waters, are we gonna get a 3:24:07.840 --> 3:24:10.040 shot at this guy in the second round? You know, 3:24:10.240 --> 3:24:13.640 is that that's where you start now having to u 3:24:14.240 --> 3:24:16.400 educate yourself of Okay, we're not gonna get this guy 3:24:16.440 --> 3:24:18.560 in the second round. We gotta hit this pick right now. 3:24:19.280 --> 3:24:21.920 I thought I thought Door set at thirty one of 3:24:21.959 --> 3:24:25.120 the scenes that would be the pick, but maybe not. 3:24:25.360 --> 3:24:27.680 I'm gonna run Due TV real quick. Okay, I'm gonna 3:24:27.760 --> 3:24:30.080 leave you this tweet from Des Bryant, who said that 3:24:30.200 --> 3:24:34.280 Byron Jones he better be a dog. I'm sure. I'm 3:24:34.320 --> 3:24:36.680 sure Byron Jones will be happy to you. Guys. Let 3:24:36.680 --> 3:24:38.959 me to run anybody in Nick Keeping or anybody. Now, 3:24:39.000 --> 3:24:42.160 we're good, Okay, we'll finish this guy's go. Yeah, thank 3:24:42.160 --> 3:24:44.879 you so much, man, I appreciate that. Steve Dennis from 3:24:44.920 --> 3:24:49.039 our television department. Uh, Dame Brugler again joining you here 3:24:49.560 --> 3:24:54.000 with me finishing out this draft. We've only got uh, 3:24:54.280 --> 3:24:58.200 let's see four more picks to be made. Uh, the 3:24:58.680 --> 3:25:01.360 Indianapolis Colts or on the clock, we were trying to 3:25:01.640 --> 3:25:05.640 speculate who they potentially could take. Let's focus ahead. Maybe 3:25:07.080 --> 3:25:10.360 Green Bay would be the next pick at thirty. You 3:25:10.520 --> 3:25:13.880 talked about Randall quite a bit. Well, and could this 3:25:14.080 --> 3:25:18.000 be You've talked about him potentially as a first round 3:25:18.160 --> 3:25:20.760 type of a talent, and here I am. I mocked 3:25:20.840 --> 3:25:25.080 him as a sixty. My gut tells me I'm not 3:25:25.160 --> 3:25:27.280 gonna be right about that at all. Well, and one 3:25:27.320 --> 3:25:31.039 of my quote unquote bold predictions was Damarius Randall would 3:25:31.040 --> 3:25:33.680 be the first safety drafted and in the first round. Yeah, 3:25:33.760 --> 3:25:35.720 so we we're running out of picks here, We'll see. 3:25:36.959 --> 3:25:40.880 I'm not feeling good about my Bryce Petty. Okay, okay, Well, 3:25:41.440 --> 3:25:44.160 Garrison was telling me we're about to go to the Prescott. 3:25:44.440 --> 3:25:47.360 Ready to go? Now, we're okay. In about one minute, 3:25:47.400 --> 3:25:51.840 we're gonna go and hear from Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, 3:25:52.440 --> 3:25:56.039 probably Jason Garrett, all gonna talk to us about Byron 3:25:56.160 --> 3:25:58.720 Jones and where they had him on the board. I'm 3:25:58.760 --> 3:26:02.040 sure Gary will gonna be Jerry will be very giddy 3:26:02.160 --> 3:26:04.360 and happy. I'm sure we'll hear all the great things 3:26:05.000 --> 3:26:07.000 from Jason Garrett about the right kind of guy. Okay, 3:26:07.160 --> 3:26:10.200 can't we got The Colts selection is coming up right now, 3:26:10.280 --> 3:26:17.080 so let's go to the Colts. The Indianapolis Colts select 3:26:17.920 --> 3:26:21.840 Philip dors Here we go, six wide receiver off the board. Yeah, 3:26:22.000 --> 3:26:24.920 and a player that heck, if you're the Colts, you're 3:26:25.040 --> 3:26:28.560 just put speed out there. Let Andrew luck, you know, 3:26:28.760 --> 3:26:33.040 distribute the rock and uh, good luck and good thing 3:26:33.080 --> 3:26:37.000 to Tuck. The Texans drafted Kevin Johnson because they're gonna 3:26:37.000 --> 3:26:39.160 need all the corners they could they can use to 3:26:39.280 --> 3:26:42.880 cover these guys. And look look at port Jacory Shephard. Yeah, 3:26:42.959 --> 3:26:44.880 this and we were there that we were watching We're 3:26:44.920 --> 3:26:49.400 watching Senior Bowl, uh tape right now, and yeah, he was. 3:26:49.640 --> 3:26:52.600 You could definitely see the separation blurs. I was. I 3:26:52.720 --> 3:26:55.520 was sitting with Bucky Brooks, h with the you know, 3:26:55.600 --> 3:26:58.440 with the NFL networking, Bucky old former scout, and he 3:26:58.560 --> 3:27:00.520 and I were talking. He goes, he was broad, has 3:27:00.560 --> 3:27:02.560 you ever seen this kid? I said, no, I don't 3:27:02.600 --> 3:27:04.119 know much about him, and I was just getting into 3:27:04.160 --> 3:27:07.200 the draft and he goes, watch this kid run, and 3:27:07.600 --> 3:27:11.680 it was there was some serious separation. Honestly, I gave 3:27:11.760 --> 3:27:13.880 him a second third round grade. I did because I 3:27:14.200 --> 3:27:15.920 worry about a lot of things, the ball skills, that 3:27:15.959 --> 3:27:18.160 worry about him staying healthy. But with that speed, I 3:27:18.280 --> 3:27:20.880 understand why you're taking him late first round. Absolutely, well, 3:27:20.879 --> 3:27:23.040 I was. I was luckily I had him in the 3:27:23.080 --> 3:27:25.280 second round. And again you're looking for guys at this 3:27:25.360 --> 3:27:28.040 point at the end. This guy's got a lot of 3:27:28.120 --> 3:27:30.440 talent and he does. So. All right, we go forward 3:27:30.520 --> 3:27:33.920 now to h with the thirtieth pick with the Green 3:27:34.000 --> 3:27:37.200 Bay Packers, and I you as one of your five. 3:27:37.280 --> 3:27:40.320 You mentioned that you talked about Randall safety. It's being 3:27:40.360 --> 3:27:42.240 when the first safe first round. Yeah, and I think 3:27:42.280 --> 3:27:45.440 that's when we talk about Randall. I think we could 3:27:45.440 --> 3:27:47.320 be talking. We talked about a player that's in the 3:27:47.440 --> 3:27:51.360 nickel can play corner. And for the Packers, I think 3:27:51.400 --> 3:27:56.720 that versatility is awfully intriguing. They have a need a corner, 3:27:56.840 --> 3:27:59.400 they need some depth there. Yeah, I think you know, 3:27:59.520 --> 3:28:01.800 this makes some sense. We could look at linebacker here 3:28:01.840 --> 3:28:06.120 for them, Malcolm Brown still on the board, defensive tackle 3:28:06.400 --> 3:28:09.560 right if you look, let me just read I'm scrolling 3:28:09.680 --> 3:28:13.240 up to the team needs here for the Green Bay Packers. 3:28:13.360 --> 3:28:16.000 But safety seem one. And again, that was a team 3:28:16.280 --> 3:28:17.800 that I got to study at the end of the 3:28:17.920 --> 3:28:21.280 year because of the playoff game, and it seemed to 3:28:21.360 --> 3:28:24.720 me that the Packers, we're thinking about. So let's go 3:28:24.840 --> 3:28:30.240 to the press conference for the announcement. Damn goose quiet 3:28:30.320 --> 3:28:36.960 in here. Okay, we'll be short with our statements and 3:28:37.040 --> 3:28:42.200 then basically go questions more than anything. But we've got 3:28:42.280 --> 3:28:47.160 a guy here that we probably knew as much about 3:28:47.200 --> 3:28:51.200 as anybody in the draft. Pascaloni coach team, and we 3:28:51.400 --> 3:28:56.640 had scout that knew his position, coaches and spent a 3:28:56.680 --> 3:28:59.160 lot of time with him. So we felt real good 3:28:59.240 --> 3:29:05.000 about our evaluation of Byron and h and I'm talking 3:29:05.040 --> 3:29:08.240 about the evaluation of him as a player. He did 3:29:08.360 --> 3:29:13.000 play two years at safety as well as his uh 3:29:13.879 --> 3:29:17.160 what he can do at a corner, so that was 3:29:17.240 --> 3:29:22.720 pretty prominent in our decision to take him. Stephen, Well, 3:29:22.760 --> 3:29:24.280 I just think, uh, you know, at the end of 3:29:24.320 --> 3:29:26.360 the day, I think, you know, our work paid off. 3:29:26.440 --> 3:29:28.680 I think we, you know, had really done our work 3:29:28.760 --> 3:29:30.280 on this. We knew it was gonna be a long 3:29:30.360 --> 3:29:33.480 wait when you're down at twenty seven, and uh, but 3:29:33.879 --> 3:29:36.280 we felt really good about what might happen for us. 3:29:36.320 --> 3:29:38.360 And you know, we're trying to get linked in the 3:29:38.440 --> 3:29:42.800 secondary and uh, obviously he fits that. And uh he's 3:29:42.800 --> 3:29:46.080 a really good football player, a really good person, both 3:29:46.160 --> 3:29:50.440 on and off the field, great character and obviously think 3:29:50.520 --> 3:29:55.440 we made a good, solid pick here. Yeah, certainly the 3:29:55.560 --> 3:29:59.000 right kind of guy, A guy who is just a 3:29:59.080 --> 3:30:03.160 really impressive football player. He showed that as a starter 3:30:03.320 --> 3:30:06.240 for two years at safety and then starting a corner 3:30:07.000 --> 3:30:10.920 for two years. Productive player, a guy who plays the 3:30:11.040 --> 3:30:14.120 right way, a guy that has a tremendous amount of 3:30:14.160 --> 3:30:17.360 potential but also has a chance to play early because 3:30:17.400 --> 3:30:21.160 of his athletic ability, his versatility, and Frank's experience. So 3:30:21.360 --> 3:30:23.800 we spent a lot of time with him. Coach Pasqualone 3:30:24.560 --> 3:30:27.920 coached him, and we got an up close view of 3:30:28.040 --> 3:30:32.320 him from our conversations with him and had a chance 3:30:32.360 --> 3:30:34.600 to bring him in here, had great visits with him, 3:30:35.200 --> 3:30:37.120 We worked him out, spent a lot of time with him. 3:30:37.879 --> 3:30:39.480 We think he's going to be a good football player. 3:30:42.200 --> 3:30:44.080 Was a hard waiting and then seeing if he was 3:30:44.120 --> 3:30:47.520 in a ball Were there any moments where he thought 3:30:47.640 --> 3:30:50.360 he could go here or to jovin pretty good intelligence 3:30:50.400 --> 3:30:53.400 that he would be there at twenty seven for you, No, 3:30:53.800 --> 3:30:56.240 we did not have any intelligence had made us think 3:30:56.280 --> 3:30:59.760 he'd be there at all, And it was hard waiting 3:31:00.680 --> 3:31:07.480 for sure and h but uh it it worked out 3:31:07.520 --> 3:31:10.480 for us. I think we were fortunate for when you 3:31:11.280 --> 3:31:15.520 put in the crosshairs our team needs the type player 3:31:15.840 --> 3:31:23.400 is our coaches. Not only did his coaches, but our 3:31:23.480 --> 3:31:28.600 coaches were particularly on the table for him throughout our 3:31:28.640 --> 3:31:33.680 evaluation process. All position coaches I'm talking, did you ever 3:31:33.920 --> 3:31:35.720 get anty and think about moving up for him or 3:31:36.040 --> 3:31:38.640 I mean because he was falling or coming to you 3:31:39.440 --> 3:31:41.520 ever get a point where you wanted to need to 3:31:41.560 --> 3:31:45.200 move up for him? Uh, there's an urge. There's an 3:31:45.320 --> 3:31:48.600 urge as you as you watch twenty six other players 3:31:48.920 --> 3:31:52.360 roll out there. Uh, there there is an urge. But 3:31:53.520 --> 3:31:58.640 that is the art of of the process of so 3:31:58.800 --> 3:32:03.320 to speak, to use your word, but seriously, there that's 3:32:03.360 --> 3:32:08.440 the anxiety that is involved there. Uh. We didn't really 3:32:09.160 --> 3:32:15.959 see a lot of trading possibilities, but we certainly we're 3:32:16.080 --> 3:32:19.240 keeping our eyes open in case a real bargain had 3:32:19.280 --> 3:32:25.560 come along. Regarding a trade consideration at all, we didn't 3:32:25.640 --> 3:32:31.360 we uh have him, had him rated high on our board, 3:32:32.879 --> 3:32:40.040 but we also uh from the get go have pinpointed 3:32:41.040 --> 3:32:44.560 if we could not reach for a player, but if 3:32:44.600 --> 3:32:49.760 we could find a player, uh with Hardy having brought 3:32:49.800 --> 3:32:52.280 in Hearty, but if we could find a player that 3:32:52.440 --> 3:32:58.439 could potentially be a corner that if we get Claybourne 3:32:59.640 --> 3:33:03.120 back we are anticipating and hopeful that could also be 3:33:03.320 --> 3:33:07.160 a free safety and an excellent free safety. Then that 3:33:07.360 --> 3:33:10.280 was the ideal fit. As far as the position to 3:33:10.400 --> 3:33:14.360 draft for us, there was no question and so uh 3:33:15.360 --> 3:33:20.160 we we were never tempted to do anything moving around 3:33:20.840 --> 3:33:25.760 to do anything about any other player up there. Uh, 3:33:27.520 --> 3:33:30.320 especially the player you're talking about there. And then when 3:33:30.400 --> 3:33:33.040 we were able to get the player that we really wanted, 3:33:33.080 --> 3:33:36.280 the position that we wanted, then that made that non 3:33:36.360 --> 3:33:39.880 consideration to get it done. No, lords, we waited on 3:33:40.000 --> 3:33:41.600 a chance to see if we were going to be 3:33:41.640 --> 3:33:45.320 able to get this corner safety. We talk about paying 3:33:47.560 --> 3:33:50.640 his ability to do both. Yeah. Again, a lot of 3:33:50.720 --> 3:33:52.640 times will take a player and you'll project him to 3:33:52.720 --> 3:33:55.760 another position, say he has the physical traits to go 3:33:55.959 --> 3:33:59.280 be this. Uh, he has the physical traits to go 3:33:59.400 --> 3:34:01.640 play safe. He even though he's played corner of the 3:34:01.720 --> 3:34:03.720 last couple of years. But what gives us a lot 3:34:03.760 --> 3:34:07.039 of confidences you see him play free safety for two 3:34:07.160 --> 3:34:09.440 years as a starter. They had two real good corners 3:34:09.480 --> 3:34:11.760 when he was a young player coming into school there, 3:34:11.840 --> 3:34:13.320 so they wanted to get him out on the field, 3:34:13.360 --> 3:34:15.320 and he played safety. So you see that tape. You 3:34:15.480 --> 3:34:17.800 like what you see on that tape as a young player. 3:34:18.120 --> 3:34:22.640 So I do believe it's a realistic projection for him 3:34:22.680 --> 3:34:24.640 to play corner in this league and also played free 3:34:24.640 --> 3:34:26.720 safety in this league. He has the athletic ability, he 3:34:26.760 --> 3:34:29.400 has the experience, and you know, he's one of those 3:34:29.440 --> 3:34:33.240 guys that you really thinks a great upside the first 3:34:33.280 --> 3:34:35.520 tournament one or the other as a rookie. We'll have 3:34:35.640 --> 3:34:38.800 those conversations. We do anticipate him starting out as a 3:34:38.879 --> 3:34:42.240 cornerback and then depending on how the health of the 3:34:42.320 --> 3:34:45.160 secondary is, you know, the opportunity to move him to 3:34:45.160 --> 3:34:49.400 safety is certainly realistic. And you know, again Mo Claiborne 3:34:49.440 --> 3:34:52.040 someone who's worked very hard or hopefully he can come 3:34:52.080 --> 3:34:55.400 back and get to the level he's that we think 3:34:55.440 --> 3:34:59.680 he's capable of playing at. And again, his flexibility, his 3:35:00.080 --> 3:35:03.360 letic ability, his experience, talking about Byron Jones, gives you 3:35:03.360 --> 3:35:06.880 a chance to play a couple different spots. Us he 3:35:07.000 --> 3:35:11.560 had this crazy broad jump, but the combine recrup did 3:35:11.640 --> 3:35:14.160 that jump out of you all did on June when 3:35:14.760 --> 3:35:17.400 he did that the combine, I mean, did he he 3:35:17.520 --> 3:35:19.480 kind of popped out, but that's one of the reasons 3:35:19.520 --> 3:35:21.120 you go to the combine. You want to see these 3:35:21.160 --> 3:35:23.280 guys move around. You want to see him run, you 3:35:23.320 --> 3:35:24.760 want to see him jump, you want to see him 3:35:24.800 --> 3:35:27.760 change direction, And certainly that was something that was very impressive. 3:35:28.720 --> 3:35:31.440 Not only was the broad jump great, but the vertical 3:35:31.520 --> 3:35:34.640 leap was outstanding. But we also thought the movement was 3:35:34.720 --> 3:35:37.440 really good. So he had an impressive combine workout. But 3:35:37.560 --> 3:35:39.760 let's go back to his experience as a player, to 3:35:39.920 --> 3:35:42.520 your starter safety, to your starter at corner. This is 3:35:42.560 --> 3:35:45.240 not a workout warrior that we drafted. We drafted a 3:35:45.280 --> 3:35:48.560 football player we really think plays the right way and 3:35:48.600 --> 3:35:50.520 as a chance to really develop and a couple of 3:35:50.560 --> 3:35:52.800 different spots for us, you have him as a verst 3:35:52.879 --> 3:35:58.840 round great inquire to Toma. We don't get into our grade, 3:35:58.920 --> 3:36:06.560 but he was certainly in our top fifteen sixteen players 3:36:06.600 --> 3:36:11.240 on the board. Stephen, after seeing how this first round way, 3:36:11.560 --> 3:36:13.840 obviously you know you can't really reject he's going to 3:36:13.920 --> 3:36:16.359 fall to twenty seven. But does it give me confidence 3:36:16.400 --> 3:36:19.120 going intomorrow that you know some guys might slip to 3:36:19.200 --> 3:36:21.920 you guys there, Yeah, I think it does I think 3:36:21.959 --> 3:36:23.360 we talked about it, and I think this was going 3:36:23.400 --> 3:36:25.800 to be the hardest part of the draft. I think 3:36:25.840 --> 3:36:28.360 once you get into the you know, you get into 3:36:28.440 --> 3:36:31.600 the second round, you know, the opinions start to vary 3:36:31.800 --> 3:36:34.800 in terms of what people want and what fits their 3:36:34.879 --> 3:36:38.039 systems and that type of thing. And I think there's 3:36:38.040 --> 3:36:40.640 a better chance that, you know, some of the guys 3:36:40.720 --> 3:36:43.240 that we think might really work for us, that we 3:36:43.400 --> 3:36:46.200 have on our board, I think it gets easier to 3:36:46.400 --> 3:36:49.320 feel like they may come to you where we're sitting. 3:36:49.560 --> 3:36:52.840 So I do think and I think we thought coming 3:36:52.920 --> 3:36:54.680 in here that this would be the toughest part of 3:36:54.760 --> 3:36:57.440 it is waiting, you know, when everybody has a lot 3:36:57.480 --> 3:37:01.040 of these gays sorted pretty similar in the first fifteen picks, 3:37:01.080 --> 3:37:03.840 and then you start to see some variations. But you know, 3:37:03.920 --> 3:37:06.960 I think from here on out, uh, you know, we 3:37:07.040 --> 3:37:10.760 could see some guys that will feel really good about 3:37:10.840 --> 3:37:12.760 and maybe not have to sweat as much. Maybe we're 3:37:12.840 --> 3:37:17.520 choosing between two or three gas. You mend your mold. 3:37:17.800 --> 3:37:20.960 How does this decision affect the opening decision you have 3:37:21.080 --> 3:37:24.360 in the situation you have with car and Scan? How 3:37:24.400 --> 3:37:27.720 does bringing on Jones It is not it does not. 3:37:28.680 --> 3:37:33.560 We were so fortunate last year to play and have 3:37:33.840 --> 3:37:37.920 car and Scandric and without Mold not to have had 3:37:37.959 --> 3:37:42.000 an injury there. With our corners, this was the closest 3:37:42.080 --> 3:37:44.480 thing to a position that we thought we could get 3:37:44.600 --> 3:37:49.160 in trouble with was our corner. The next thing that 3:37:49.320 --> 3:37:53.440 we thought we could improve the defense as much as 3:37:53.520 --> 3:37:58.160 any place and do some things we haven't done, is 3:37:58.240 --> 3:38:02.520 to have a free safety type roaming so to speak, 3:38:02.600 --> 3:38:05.080 that you really would think of a free safety. So 3:38:05.240 --> 3:38:08.960 a combination of things happened here. It really did address 3:38:11.280 --> 3:38:15.560 some pretty dire circumstances numbers at corner, but it also 3:38:15.840 --> 3:38:20.240 allows us to possibly do some things at safety. So 3:38:20.720 --> 3:38:23.560 it had two or three things. The most important thing 3:38:23.800 --> 3:38:26.400 is that we thought we could live if we didn't 3:38:26.879 --> 3:38:32.320 strike well at pass rusher. We thought in this draft 3:38:32.360 --> 3:38:34.800 I'm talking about, we thought we could live if we 3:38:34.920 --> 3:38:38.200 didn't strike well at running back, A place where we 3:38:38.440 --> 3:38:41.959 did not think that we would feel good in sleep, right, 3:38:42.160 --> 3:38:44.480 is if we didn't do something there in our secondary 3:38:44.560 --> 3:38:48.440 at corner in case Clayburn doesn't come back. But also 3:38:48.520 --> 3:38:50.640 at the same time, maybe give us a chance to 3:38:50.720 --> 3:38:54.280 do something special for our defense at free safety. The 3:38:54.360 --> 3:38:56.640 option the moment, the free safety, you're comfortable, you feel 3:38:56.680 --> 3:39:01.240 good about Carl scanneron being on his team next year, Well, 3:39:01.280 --> 3:39:04.000 I they're on the team, and when I when you 3:39:04.080 --> 3:39:08.360 say I feel good, they're they're certainly on our team 3:39:08.480 --> 3:39:12.720 and as it sits right now, we uh plan on 3:39:13.480 --> 3:39:15.320 them being a part of the team in the future. 3:39:16.959 --> 3:39:22.760 Stephen Jones, Jason Garrett walks you through what they feel 3:39:22.840 --> 3:39:27.680 like with Byron Jones, his strengths, where he was positioned 3:39:27.760 --> 3:39:30.200 on the board. Anything surprised you dained As far as 3:39:31.440 --> 3:39:34.840 talking about him potentially playing He'll start off as a corner, 3:39:35.440 --> 3:39:38.720 possibly a playing safety, you know, Jason Garrett talked about that. Yeah, 3:39:38.720 --> 3:39:42.200 I think we both believe he was drafted to be 3:39:42.280 --> 3:39:45.240 a corner. But having that versatility to play safety if 3:39:45.320 --> 3:39:48.320 needed is just a bonus it gives you. And that's 3:39:48.360 --> 3:39:50.720 why versatility we talk about it. It's more than just 3:39:50.800 --> 3:39:54.400 a buzzword. It's it's something that these coaches really buy into. 3:39:54.680 --> 3:39:56.280 If you have a chance to have a player that 3:39:56.879 --> 3:40:00.360 gives you value at another position. In case Avenger, who 3:40:00.440 --> 3:40:03.360 knows how the secondary will play out. But for Byron Jones, 3:40:03.640 --> 3:40:06.160 a player, I think we both think his futures at corner, 3:40:06.240 --> 3:40:08.840 but if something happens at safety, that could be the 3:40:08.920 --> 3:40:11.600 direction he goes. Yeah, and that's I totally agree with 3:40:11.680 --> 3:40:14.360 you on that. You know, the I just like the 3:40:15.000 --> 3:40:18.360 size of the player. I like that. Yeah. The athletic 3:40:18.400 --> 3:40:21.600 ability is rare when you look at all the things 3:40:22.360 --> 3:40:26.280 that Byron Jones uh does uh, you know when you 3:40:26.480 --> 3:40:28.440 talk about working out and things like that, I think too. 3:40:28.600 --> 3:40:31.360 You know, Bill Jones even brought up the uh, the 3:40:31.720 --> 3:40:35.280 the thought of him eighteen times with the shoulder. Yeah, 3:40:35.320 --> 3:40:37.920 I think that's a very positive sign. Definitely that you 3:40:37.959 --> 3:40:40.880 would you would not if you're coming off a shoulder 3:40:40.920 --> 3:40:44.560 and all that. Usually those defensive backs shy away from 3:40:44.600 --> 3:40:46.600 that that you know, they'll they'll do anything in their 3:40:46.640 --> 3:40:52.720 power to keep from having to do anything's bench press wise, 3:40:52.879 --> 3:40:55.400 and the fact that he stepped up and was able 3:40:55.440 --> 3:40:58.200 to show the scouts something I worried with Kevin Johnson, right, 3:40:58.320 --> 3:41:01.039 he chose not to do the bench press the combine, 3:41:01.080 --> 3:41:02.920 chose not to do it at the prode. Yeah, and 3:41:03.120 --> 3:41:05.840 so now you have those questions, you know, but I 3:41:06.000 --> 3:41:09.960 think that when you look at the fit and you know, 3:41:10.400 --> 3:41:13.320 it was it was very clear though, uh, that the 3:41:13.440 --> 3:41:17.280 Cowboys once they saw the board. I was a little 3:41:17.400 --> 3:41:23.640 nervous myself at sixteen when and you rightfully so uh 3:41:23.760 --> 3:41:29.360 predicted Kevin Johnson would be a Houston Texan that, okay, 3:41:29.400 --> 3:41:32.880 would the Cowboys have to be aggressive here? And if 3:41:32.959 --> 3:41:37.440 you look at the picks, only Marcus Peters who the Cowboys? 3:41:37.840 --> 3:41:40.680 We don't know. We'll eventually find out. I'll find out. 3:41:40.720 --> 3:41:43.280 You'll find out either had him on the board or 3:41:43.440 --> 3:41:47.120 off the board. And my guests would be that of 3:41:47.280 --> 3:41:52.440 their first round grades that that Wayne's Johnson and then 3:41:52.600 --> 3:41:55.560 Jones would be the guys that they that they were 3:41:55.680 --> 3:41:58.120 looking at at at the cornerback spot. And so you know, 3:41:58.240 --> 3:42:00.680 as soon as, like you said, when the corner started 3:42:00.720 --> 3:42:03.680 coming off the board and the teens at twenty that's 3:42:03.720 --> 3:42:06.000 when you start really sweating it. And you know they 3:42:06.160 --> 3:42:08.720 resisted the urge to go up and get that player. 3:42:08.800 --> 3:42:11.240 They waited it out, and you know what, it's a risk, 3:42:11.400 --> 3:42:13.760 but it's a risk that paid off for this team 3:42:14.120 --> 3:42:16.720 getting their guy at twenty seven. Well, and and we 3:42:16.840 --> 3:42:20.040 will go through, uh, some of the picks that have 3:42:20.240 --> 3:42:26.360 been made. While the press conference was going on, we 3:42:26.520 --> 3:42:31.280 talked about Lake and Tomlinson. The went to the Detroit Lions. 3:42:31.400 --> 3:42:34.360 The guard from Duke, first Duke player picked in the 3:42:34.440 --> 3:42:38.760 first round since nineteen forty two? How about that? Anyway, 3:42:38.959 --> 3:42:41.800 after that would be Philip Dorsett went to went to 3:42:42.080 --> 3:42:45.600 the Indianapolis Colts, the wide receiver from University of Miami. 3:42:45.959 --> 3:42:47.840 Green Bay Packers took and I thought it was an 3:42:47.920 --> 3:42:51.680 unusual pick here de Marius Randall, the safety from Arizona State. 3:42:51.800 --> 3:42:56.480 Starting to hear some things that Randall potentially couldn't back 3:42:57.360 --> 3:43:00.240 here for the Green Bay Packers. Your thoughts on that 3:43:00.560 --> 3:43:03.040 we talked about all along him being probably a nickel 3:43:03.120 --> 3:43:07.879 corner to begin his career. You see that type of athleticism. Um, 3:43:08.120 --> 3:43:11.160 and I get it, and I certainly understand if that's 3:43:11.200 --> 3:43:13.120 what the Packers plan on doing. I think he can 3:43:13.160 --> 3:43:15.920 help out right away as a nickel. So I like 3:43:16.080 --> 3:43:19.360 the pick. And uh, it's something that I think were 3:43:19.440 --> 3:43:22.440 not really a shock. You thought maybe the Packers were 3:43:22.440 --> 3:43:25.360 gonna go secondary there. So Damarius Randall, it's a good 3:43:25.360 --> 3:43:27.040 pick for Green Bay. Yeah it is. And and that 3:43:27.160 --> 3:43:30.320 was the same that was a guy that I mocked to, uh, 3:43:30.480 --> 3:43:35.880 the to the the Cowboys in the second round. So yeah, 3:43:35.959 --> 3:43:39.119 it was kind of that Nick Eatman joining us, Now, 3:43:39.240 --> 3:43:41.440 what's up, guys? Now? What is we got a secret 3:43:41.480 --> 3:43:43.520 call coming in or something? That secret call. But he's 3:43:43.760 --> 3:43:45.800 I think he's gonna call soon. I know, I'm he's 3:43:45.800 --> 3:43:49.160 supposed to. Okay, about five minutes. Okay, okay, Ken Garrison 3:43:49.200 --> 3:43:51.200 tell us that he will be in five minutes. Uh. 3:43:51.360 --> 3:43:56.120 Talk about we were visiting about Byron Jones. We have 3:43:56.320 --> 3:43:59.359 our thoughts about what we saw on tape at Connecticut, 3:43:59.520 --> 3:44:02.720 Jason Eric Stephen Jones. Everybody had their opinion about him, 3:44:03.240 --> 3:44:05.400 some of the thoughts that you have about the particular pay. 3:44:05.520 --> 3:44:08.120 And again, I don't even dare to say that I 3:44:08.480 --> 3:44:11.040 study these guys anywhere close to what you guys are, 3:44:11.080 --> 3:44:13.680 but I'm just a little surprised when I hear about 3:44:13.760 --> 3:44:16.680 how much his versatility comes into play. I mean, I 3:44:16.760 --> 3:44:19.720 know he was playing corner, but they keep talking about 3:44:19.760 --> 3:44:23.200 how he could play safety. ACU just second, Nick, I 3:44:23.240 --> 3:44:24.960 think we're gonna go. This is the final pick of 3:44:25.040 --> 3:44:27.760 the round. This will be the new Super Bowl Chickpions 3:44:30.040 --> 3:44:35.680 NFL Draft. The new England Patriots select Malcolm bra You 3:44:35.800 --> 3:44:41.519 gotta ride defensive tackle. Okay, Commissioner Malcolm Brown, the defensive 3:44:41.560 --> 3:44:44.400 tackle from the University of Texas or some people thought 3:44:44.480 --> 3:44:47.320 that maybe the Cowboys at twenty seven would have been 3:44:47.360 --> 3:44:50.320 consideration there. I see him as a one technique. That 3:44:50.480 --> 3:44:52.840 kind of takes him out of the loop. As far 3:44:52.959 --> 3:44:55.080 as those guys when they say, you know, we I've 3:44:55.160 --> 3:44:58.680 learned my lesson, you know with Sharif Floyd and saying 3:44:58.720 --> 3:45:01.280 he could play at three, I think these guys probably 3:45:01.320 --> 3:45:04.960 see Malcolm Brown playing as a one technique. So Malcolm 3:45:04.959 --> 3:45:08.200 Brown is a New England Patriot. Uh. That means the 3:45:09.160 --> 3:45:12.360 first round has come to an end. The start time 3:45:12.400 --> 3:45:15.959 of the of the round seven h six pm Central 3:45:16.000 --> 3:45:19.400 Standard Time and ends at ten thirty pm, So first 3:45:19.480 --> 3:45:21.760 round over within the books. But we talk about again 3:45:21.840 --> 3:45:26.200 getting back into the versatility with and you guys, I 3:45:26.280 --> 3:45:28.640 know you guys knew that he uh you know, has 3:45:28.680 --> 3:45:31.160 played safety there, but it just sounds like to them 3:45:31.560 --> 3:45:34.360 it's not just something that he's done. But but you know, 3:45:34.480 --> 3:45:38.280 if car and Clayborne come back and Standard's back, that 3:45:38.400 --> 3:45:40.280 if he's better than Wilcox, there's a chance he can 3:45:40.320 --> 3:45:42.280 get on the field right away and play play safety. 3:45:42.360 --> 3:45:44.520 He actually has more starts in college at safety than 3:45:44.840 --> 3:45:48.240 a corner. So a player that you do see the versatility, 3:45:48.400 --> 3:45:50.520 and I think we all agree that you like him. 3:45:50.560 --> 3:45:52.959 We like him at corner to start off, Yes, but yeah, 3:45:53.000 --> 3:45:55.440 that versatility is just still clutch. And that's why it's 3:45:55.440 --> 3:45:58.480 such a high value player because you don't you know, 3:45:58.600 --> 3:46:03.960 you have that option depending on durability during injuries, something 3:46:04.000 --> 3:46:06.320 can happen at safety. You can do that if you want. 3:46:06.360 --> 3:46:08.240 This This is a team is starting to be built 3:46:08.320 --> 3:46:12.440 on flexibility. This is a team it's starting to how 3:46:12.520 --> 3:46:16.920 many guys can play tackle or guard or center or 3:46:16.959 --> 3:46:19.080 guard whatever it matters. I mean, how many guys can 3:46:19.160 --> 3:46:22.160 do other things, and especially on defense. If you look 3:46:22.240 --> 3:46:25.760 example with Hitchens and what he was able to do 3:46:25.920 --> 3:46:30.320 last year and how he played all three linebacker spots. 3:46:30.640 --> 3:46:34.280 And now you're talking about guys, here's Byron Jones. You 3:46:34.360 --> 3:46:37.520 look at single high safety stuff. They could take Wilcox 3:46:37.640 --> 3:46:40.160 off the field, put Barry Church down in the box, 3:46:40.440 --> 3:46:42.800 let him cover. But you say, if you if, even if, 3:46:42.920 --> 3:46:45.320 even if Byron Jones is not when you're corners on 3:46:45.360 --> 3:46:47.560 the field, you put him at the safety spot. You 3:46:47.640 --> 3:46:48.920 know you can get you could get a lot of 3:46:48.959 --> 3:46:51.400 guys covering on the field. And I just got a 3:46:51.480 --> 3:46:54.040 chance to talk to take Jason Garrett after the with 3:46:54.120 --> 3:46:56.040 the press conference, we were walking back. I guess they 3:46:56.080 --> 3:46:57.480 were going to the war room, and I asked him 3:46:57.520 --> 3:46:59.520 about how tricky it can be with the verse until 3:47:00.240 --> 3:47:03.480 guys like that. Tyrone Crawford was one where it's like, yeah, 3:47:03.720 --> 3:47:05.120 you know he could play this, you could play that, 3:47:05.240 --> 3:47:07.400 and he ends up not even you know, excelling in 3:47:07.480 --> 3:47:09.680 one craft. I've seen that with Wilbur a little bit. 3:47:09.800 --> 3:47:12.760 So he said that can be dangerous, but it is 3:47:12.800 --> 3:47:14.680 good to get him on the field. Quicker. Look at 3:47:14.800 --> 3:47:17.120 Zack Martin last year, we all thought Zack Martin would 3:47:17.120 --> 3:47:19.840 play guard and then move out to tackle. They just said, no, 3:47:20.240 --> 3:47:22.480 Zack Martin is a guard. Yeah, he's just gonna play. 3:47:22.680 --> 3:47:26.080 But the option is there, you know, that versatility, having 3:47:26.200 --> 3:47:29.800 that flexibility, that flexibility, that key word there and real quick. 3:47:30.520 --> 3:47:32.400 We just finished the first round. Some guys that are 3:47:32.440 --> 3:47:35.640 still available on the board, Randy Gregory player. We talked 3:47:35.640 --> 3:47:39.120 to the possibility TJ. Clemmings the tackle. We both like 3:47:39.959 --> 3:47:43.840 Ronald Darby a corner O Diggy zooa pass rusher. We 3:47:43.920 --> 3:47:47.680 like Royal Green, Beckham Landon Collins, Eric Kendricks, Eric row 3:47:47.760 --> 3:47:49.400 So a lot of good players still on the board 3:47:49.800 --> 3:47:51.640 to start the second round tomorrow. I'll tell you what 3:47:51.879 --> 3:47:55.320 Jack went. Check Jack tooms Carolina. Carolina did And again 3:47:55.400 --> 3:47:58.039 that was where that that point of the draft where 3:47:58.240 --> 3:48:03.360 you know you looked at uh Carolina, Baltimore, teams like that, Pittsburgh. 3:48:04.200 --> 3:48:07.680 If bud Dupre doesn't slide down that board, I think 3:48:07.720 --> 3:48:11.320 that Dallas loses a shot to draft Byron Jones. To 3:48:11.400 --> 3:48:13.080 be honest with you here, I think they go ahead 3:48:13.080 --> 3:48:15.280 and they say we're gonna take a corner who potentially 3:48:15.360 --> 3:48:17.760 could play safety and that kind of thing. And that's 3:48:17.800 --> 3:48:20.560 why the drafts so fascinating, because one pick has a 3:48:21.480 --> 3:48:25.120 ripple effect that changes everything down the line. So if 3:48:25.280 --> 3:48:27.560 one pick is different in the top twenty, then maybe 3:48:27.560 --> 3:48:30.000 bud Dupre goes earlier, Byron Jones goes twenty two to 3:48:30.040 --> 3:48:32.320 the Steelers, and then who knows what's at twenty seven 3:48:32.400 --> 3:48:34.680 for the Cowboys. So that the draft is so fascinating, 3:48:34.720 --> 3:48:36.840 even when you look at pass drafts how it could 3:48:36.840 --> 3:48:39.560 have played out. Um and so, but the first rounds 3:48:39.600 --> 3:48:42.040 in the books Byron Jones and the Cowboy Yeah, I 3:48:42.200 --> 3:48:45.440 was obviously I was missing some of the picture. Carl 3:48:45.560 --> 3:48:47.480 Davis did he go No, No, he did not. He's 3:48:47.480 --> 3:48:49.760 still he's still on the board, on the board. Yeah there, 3:48:49.879 --> 3:48:53.360 there's get real high on him. Dane's absolutely second round 3:48:53.360 --> 3:48:56.280 player to him. Yeah, it's solid. There's some guys like 3:48:56.360 --> 3:48:59.400 like say, I had myself the unfortunate one, and Dane 3:48:59.400 --> 3:49:01.520 and I were talking, they're into press conference, Collins the 3:49:01.680 --> 3:49:05.000 LSU kid, not able to a first round player on 3:49:05.080 --> 3:49:07.520 a lot of boards, then all of a sudden the 3:49:07.720 --> 3:49:12.680 unfortunate news probably exactly. So yeah to me, you know, 3:49:12.760 --> 3:49:14.440 when you talk the two guys that I had in 3:49:14.560 --> 3:49:17.520 my own first round and looking at my board, Clemmings 3:49:17.560 --> 3:49:20.080 and Collins were the only two first round guys that 3:49:20.200 --> 3:49:25.240 did not get selected by anybody. The lowest ranking player 3:49:25.320 --> 3:49:29.200 I had was Lake and Tomlinson, the guard from and 3:49:29.280 --> 3:49:31.720 I think Dane, you and I agreed that he was 3:49:31.800 --> 3:49:35.480 a third round guy. So we're gonna get We're gonna 3:49:35.480 --> 3:49:37.000 get Barne Jones here in a little bit and have 3:49:37.040 --> 3:49:40.200 a chance to visit with him. Though, But the cowboys 3:49:40.600 --> 3:49:43.760 talk about if you would, you know, they sat there, 3:49:43.880 --> 3:49:47.160 they trusted what was going to happen. They didn't panic. 3:49:47.240 --> 3:49:49.240 He saw Jerry on some of the warm camp stuff. 3:49:49.320 --> 3:49:52.320 Nick he was. He was working the notes pretty hard. 3:49:52.400 --> 3:49:54.000 He was trying to figure out where he needed to 3:49:54.080 --> 3:49:56.880 be and just in case they had to go. Todd 3:49:57.280 --> 3:50:00.680 Williams out of PACIFICA to his right, talking to them, 3:50:00.840 --> 3:50:04.080 trying to get the numbers right. Will McClay everybody saying, hey, 3:50:04.160 --> 3:50:06.560 maybe we need to go. But Stephen Jones seemed to 3:50:06.560 --> 3:50:08.640 be a very calming voice in that room. Maybe Hey, 3:50:08.760 --> 3:50:11.120 let's just sit down and let this thing happen and 3:50:11.200 --> 3:50:13.320 see what happened and how it plays out. And they 3:50:13.360 --> 3:50:15.640 had said that that. You know, you heard Jerry just 3:50:15.760 --> 3:50:19.560 say corner was the one position that they probably wouldn't 3:50:19.560 --> 3:50:21.520 have been that comfortable with if they didn't get so 3:50:21.840 --> 3:50:23.680 I think this is as close to a need pick 3:50:23.840 --> 3:50:27.280 going into it as they've ever had. And so, you know, 3:50:27.840 --> 3:50:30.160 not to the point to move up, but at least 3:50:30.200 --> 3:50:31.880 to sit there and not try to move back. I 3:50:31.960 --> 3:50:34.800 think the question is if he's gone, who do they take? 3:50:35.160 --> 3:50:37.280 Do they try to move I think Gregory would have 3:50:37.360 --> 3:50:40.160 probably been yeah, I think that I look and looking 3:50:40.200 --> 3:50:43.360 back at what I had mocked, and Gregory was one 3:50:43.440 --> 3:50:47.320 pick away from making it. He made it to them. 3:50:48.080 --> 3:50:50.880 But the fact that Jones was there, I do believe 3:50:50.920 --> 3:50:52.640 that was a no brainer for them. I don't think 3:50:52.680 --> 3:50:55.160 you thought Jones would be there. No, I didn't. No, 3:50:55.240 --> 3:50:57.480 I did. And we actually did a little mock draft 3:50:57.560 --> 3:50:59.680 before we came on the air, and it was a 3:51:00.240 --> 3:51:03.800 much a wiped out situation and it was Ray. You 3:51:03.880 --> 3:51:06.040 know that was taken at that point in time. You know, 3:51:06.120 --> 3:51:08.480 we were trying to weigh who would be I mean, 3:51:08.520 --> 3:51:10.360 we're just having a little fun, like, Okay, who's gonna 3:51:10.400 --> 3:51:12.960 be there when Dal's picks, you know, and we talked 3:51:13.000 --> 3:51:15.960 about Ray. I think it's really important to point out, 3:51:16.120 --> 3:51:19.920 you know, and you guys cover the draft, your draft experts, 3:51:19.960 --> 3:51:23.040 the Mike Mayocks and and Mike Shay' that's what they do. 3:51:23.240 --> 3:51:27.280 And then they rate players generally, right, but but you'll 3:51:27.320 --> 3:51:29.760 find and a guy like Anthony Hitchins last year and 3:51:29.840 --> 3:51:32.440 probably in this case. You know, these guys are rated 3:51:32.560 --> 3:51:35.920 for their own team, like Anthony Hitchins would fit this team, 3:51:36.040 --> 3:51:38.560 didn't matter what Mike Mayock thinks Hitchens would be. What 3:51:38.760 --> 3:51:43.040 what Byron Jones? And so uh Tomlinson from you know Thomson, 3:51:43.440 --> 3:51:46.200 you're generally he's second and third round. But but you know, 3:51:46.240 --> 3:51:48.480 the Lions are like we get Warford, we get Tomlinson. 3:51:48.640 --> 3:51:51.800 You know, I have a plan for him. So it's 3:51:51.880 --> 3:51:53.960 it's great to look at this, but at the same time, 3:51:54.280 --> 3:51:56.120 teams look at it and a guy like Marion Elly 3:51:56.200 --> 3:52:00.000 says he will fit what we're doing, maybe more than generally, 3:52:00.200 --> 3:52:02.680 he would fit absolutely, And that's yeah, from the outsiders 3:52:02.680 --> 3:52:04.720 looking in, that's that's a tough thing because, yeah, you 3:52:04.760 --> 3:52:07.800 don't have a specific team or scheme fit that you're 3:52:08.120 --> 3:52:11.760 projecting these guys to scouting them for. So for Byron Jones, though, 3:52:12.200 --> 3:52:14.400 I scouted him best and I put this in my 3:52:14.600 --> 3:52:17.640 in my profile on him under the summary, Uh, he's 3:52:17.760 --> 3:52:19.960 best as a press corner. I think that's what that's 3:52:20.000 --> 3:52:21.960 what he projects best in the NFL. I think that's 3:52:22.000 --> 3:52:25.000 what he will succeed at. And I think that's what 3:52:25.120 --> 3:52:27.040 he could be here for the for the Cowboys. Yeah, 3:52:27.080 --> 3:52:29.880 I just to me, I I was just so impressed 3:52:29.920 --> 3:52:33.000 with how physical he was and you know, and Jerry 3:52:33.040 --> 3:52:36.520 even talked about it. You know, how well he moves. 3:52:36.760 --> 3:52:40.000 You know that Jason Garret believes as well, but how 3:52:40.120 --> 3:52:43.400 he was able to you know, stay in position, move. 3:52:43.880 --> 3:52:46.520 You don't see a lot of wasted motion with this guy. 3:52:46.960 --> 3:52:49.560 He's always in phase with the receiver. And that's something 3:52:49.640 --> 3:52:51.600 that you see a lot of these corners get beat, 3:52:52.000 --> 3:52:54.720 but not Byron Jones. And and what I love about 3:52:54.760 --> 3:52:58.040 Byron Jones, it doesn't matter if the receiver is you know, 3:52:58.360 --> 3:53:00.200 five to nine and runs a four to three or 3:53:00.440 --> 3:53:02.960 six four and he's a little slower. He can cover 3:53:03.080 --> 3:53:05.640 any type of receiver, which not you can't say that 3:53:05.640 --> 3:53:07.640 about every single corner. Was he a senior broll guy? 3:53:07.960 --> 3:53:10.160 He was. He was invited, but the shoulder, his shoulder, 3:53:10.200 --> 3:53:12.600 he could not participate in it. And the senior captain, 3:53:13.360 --> 3:53:16.120 all those intangibles check those boxes absolutely. You know ad 3:53:16.160 --> 3:53:19.840 Jason's first words out of his mouth, right kind of guy? Yeah, right, 3:53:19.880 --> 3:53:22.640 it's absolutely right kind of guy. Okay, we're gonna do this. 3:53:22.800 --> 3:53:25.560 We're gonna take take a little break right here. Ken's 3:53:25.560 --> 3:53:27.640 giving me the thumbs up on a break. So let's 3:53:27.680 --> 3:53:30.000 take a little break here and then and hopefully we 3:53:30.080 --> 3:53:33.000 will come back and we will have the newest member 3:53:33.000 --> 3:53:36.920 of the Dallas Cowboy Byron Jones. You're listening to the 3:53:37.120 --> 3:53:41.080 draft coverage on Dallas Cowboys dot com. 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Brian brought us, Nick Eatman and 3:54:55.320 --> 3:54:58.240 Dame Bruger from CBS Sports. We are joined on the 3:54:58.360 --> 3:55:03.440 line by the newest member of the Dallas Cowboys, Byron Jones. Byron, 3:55:03.760 --> 3:55:08.000 welcome to our program. Thank you so much. You gotta 3:55:08.000 --> 3:55:10.760 be happy to be here. Well, you looked extremely excited 3:55:10.880 --> 3:55:14.280 there when that when that card was handed in hugs 3:55:14.320 --> 3:55:17.080 and all around. So tell us a little bit about 3:55:17.360 --> 3:55:19.280 your thoughts. So you had a chance to visit here 3:55:19.280 --> 3:55:21.400 in Dallas, so you have a little bit of understanding 3:55:22.080 --> 3:55:24.680 of what you're getting into though, But just talk about 3:55:24.720 --> 3:55:27.640 the the emotion of not just with the Cowboys, but 3:55:27.760 --> 3:55:30.640 really the whole night. It's been great, you know you 3:55:30.640 --> 3:55:33.680 just spending the time with my family. Um, you know, 3:55:33.760 --> 3:55:35.880 you really can't put into words what that means to 3:55:36.000 --> 3:55:38.400 me and my parents. We've done a great job raising 3:55:38.720 --> 3:55:40.480 I'm hanging for four so I'm the final when to 3:55:40.560 --> 3:55:42.280 leave the house for the final want to lead a nest. 3:55:43.040 --> 3:55:45.160 So I'm just happy. I'm more happy for thumb than 3:55:45.240 --> 3:55:48.520 anything they've done. Just a great job. Anything to make 3:55:48.560 --> 3:55:51.800 them happy, man, that really makes my day. Well, Byron, 3:55:52.080 --> 3:55:54.600 welcome to Dallas. I know and I hear yet, but 3:55:54.960 --> 3:55:58.560 welcome to the Dallas Cowboys. And I talk a little 3:55:58.560 --> 3:56:00.880 bit about you know, corners are supposed to have, you know, 3:56:01.080 --> 3:56:03.920 bad memories. You you're supposed to forget about the last play, 3:56:03.960 --> 3:56:05.960 and so yeah, well was this what you know? Was it? 3:56:06.280 --> 3:56:09.080 Obviously was probably you're getting antsy, you know and seeing 3:56:09.120 --> 3:56:11.840 other guys go. But but now that it's done, you 3:56:11.920 --> 3:56:13.760 have that bad memory and now you're you're focused on 3:56:13.920 --> 3:56:16.880 being a cowboy. Oh yeah, I'm so focused on being 3:56:16.920 --> 3:56:18.280 a kind of boy. I can't wait to just come 3:56:18.320 --> 3:56:20.960 in and prove myself. Now I haven't done anything yet. 3:56:21.160 --> 3:56:23.080 I'm a doubt with cowboy, but I haven't really proved 3:56:23.120 --> 3:56:25.360 myself yet. So I really can't wait. It's going and 3:56:25.800 --> 3:56:28.760 gaining the respect from the team, the coaches, so they 3:56:29.280 --> 3:56:32.400 so they're reassorted that they made a good teas And Byron, 3:56:32.480 --> 3:56:35.800 you have experience at corner and you have experience at safety. 3:56:36.280 --> 3:56:39.360 Do you prefer one position over the other? Is there? 3:56:39.640 --> 3:56:42.680 Do you have a favorite position out there? I might 3:56:42.760 --> 3:56:44.920 say I didn't do it the cornerback position, you know, 3:56:45.000 --> 3:56:47.280 with my size and my frame, I think I used 3:56:47.280 --> 3:56:50.760 it pretty well on the outside, but playing pretty safety 3:56:51.080 --> 3:56:54.560 my freshman sophomore year was great. I think it's a 3:56:54.640 --> 3:56:56.880 it's a close one. I put you know, it looks 3:56:56.920 --> 3:56:59.760 like I'll be going corning but wherever they want to 3:56:59.800 --> 3:57:03.440 put some movie. Happy to Go. Joined here by Byron Jones, 3:57:03.560 --> 3:57:07.240 the newest member of the Dallas Cowboys. Uh, the very 3:57:07.320 --> 3:57:10.960 talented cornerback from the University of Connecticut. Byron. You know, 3:57:11.400 --> 3:57:14.280 Dane asked you a question about comfort and and you 3:57:14.320 --> 3:57:16.960 know you play corner You got the skills to do that. 3:57:17.600 --> 3:57:20.840 You've played some safety in your life, can you When 3:57:20.880 --> 3:57:24.040 you came to Dallas. Obviously you met with Joe Baker, 3:57:24.280 --> 3:57:27.000 like the safety's coach, and then with Jerome Henderson. Though 3:57:27.240 --> 3:57:29.240 did they meet with you together or did they both 3:57:29.320 --> 3:57:31.280 take you into a room? And did they? And did 3:57:31.320 --> 3:57:33.320 they they kind of grill you on some things to 3:57:33.440 --> 3:57:35.240 try and get a little bit of a better feel 3:57:35.640 --> 3:57:39.080 of where you might fit. I think primarily I was 3:57:39.160 --> 3:57:43.200 in Bakers right. He was pretty much installing a defense, 3:57:43.520 --> 3:57:45.600 you know, and he wanted me to learn it in 3:57:45.840 --> 3:57:48.560 the scope of the safety. Um he knew in a 3:57:48.640 --> 3:57:50.840 cornerback position. I knew it pretty much that he wanted 3:57:50.840 --> 3:57:52.400 to see how much I knew at the safety position, 3:57:52.920 --> 3:57:55.680 and yeah, I think it's pretty impressive. Hey how much 3:57:55.680 --> 3:57:59.200 I remember? Oh? Sorry, sorry, Byron. Uh you know you 3:57:59.360 --> 3:58:02.320 just talked about a coach Baker. He's always smiling, but 3:58:02.440 --> 3:58:04.840 I just saw him a few minutes ago and he's 3:58:04.880 --> 3:58:07.520 ecstatic right now. Okay, just to just to throw that 3:58:07.600 --> 3:58:09.560 out there, but but Jason Garrett also said in his 3:58:09.600 --> 3:58:11.880 press conference that he wanted to reiterate you are not 3:58:12.160 --> 3:58:15.400 considered a workout warrior. They didn't draft a guy that 3:58:15.600 --> 3:58:17.960 just had a world record jump at the Combine. They 3:58:18.120 --> 3:58:20.160 drafted a really good football player. Is that a guy 3:58:20.200 --> 3:58:22.600 you said? Is that something that you're trying to prove 3:58:22.680 --> 3:58:24.520 as well, that this is more than just what you 3:58:24.600 --> 3:58:28.360 did at the Combine? Oh? Definitely, and definitely, and um, 3:58:28.520 --> 3:58:31.200 you know, obviously they saw more than just a broad jump. Honestly, 3:58:31.240 --> 3:58:33.400 a broad jump doesn't do anything for you in football. 3:58:34.160 --> 3:58:35.640 You know, they saw the film, they saw what they 3:58:35.680 --> 3:58:39.400 were getting. Me intelligent, as athletic, I'm more than top players. 3:58:39.440 --> 3:58:42.120 So they were happy what they saw. So definitely, I'm 3:58:42.600 --> 3:58:44.640 in any case, I'm going to prove myself and I'm 3:58:44.640 --> 3:58:48.440 looking forward to doing that, and Byron, your coaching staff 3:58:48.440 --> 3:58:52.800 at Yukon just praised you about your leadership, your intangibles. 3:58:53.320 --> 3:58:55.920 Last summer you served an internship at the US Capital. 3:58:56.840 --> 3:58:59.600 Talk about what you bring to the Cowboys that maybe 3:58:59.600 --> 3:59:02.080 we won't see on the field, but we'll see in 3:59:02.120 --> 3:59:03.840 the locker room, or we won't see but in the 3:59:03.880 --> 3:59:06.120 locker room on the practice field. I talk about what 3:59:06.240 --> 3:59:08.560 you might bring to this team away from just what 3:59:08.680 --> 3:59:11.680 we see on Sundays. All right, it's a good character, 3:59:11.840 --> 3:59:15.840 you know, telling us always happy, enjoying life. Um, very 3:59:15.880 --> 3:59:18.880 optimistic question. So my outlook on life is very Barrett. 3:59:19.160 --> 3:59:25.160 I think I'm riding some schnology faces looking forward to that. Sure, well, Byron, 3:59:25.400 --> 3:59:27.760 I can do a little a little surprise with you here. 3:59:27.880 --> 3:59:30.240 You know, we've we've got something and we want to 3:59:30.280 --> 3:59:32.080 play for it. And you know, these are the things 3:59:32.160 --> 3:59:33.880 that we get, the fact that we're here with the 3:59:33.960 --> 3:59:36.480 Dallas Cowboys and Dallas Cowboys dot Com and we're really 3:59:36.480 --> 3:59:38.640 excited about getting to know you. But we're gonna play 3:59:38.640 --> 3:59:40.440 you a little bit of secret audio that we got 3:59:40.800 --> 3:59:43.680 the conversation you had with Coach Garrett. So yeah, take 3:59:43.720 --> 3:59:47.080 a listen at this. Byron Jones Hey, how you doing 3:59:47.240 --> 3:59:50.880 glays in Garrett? Hey, congratulations, thank you, thank you so 3:59:51.000 --> 3:59:53.040 much for picking me. Man. A lot of a lot 3:59:53.080 --> 3:59:55.040 of excitement in this war room down here in Dallas. 3:59:55.280 --> 3:59:57.960 That's great, great, Well, you just made a hell of 3:59:58.000 --> 3:59:59.880 an impression out of him in so many different ways 4:00:00.440 --> 4:00:03.160 on the field, but maybe equally important the kind of 4:00:03.200 --> 4:00:05.720 guy you are. And we just can't wait to get 4:00:05.760 --> 4:00:08.040 you in here and get you to work. All right, 4:00:08.120 --> 4:00:10.560 I'm sorry, I'm looking forward to it. Good. I got 4:00:10.680 --> 4:00:12.800 Rod Marinelli right here, who wants to talk to you. 4:00:13.480 --> 4:00:17.360 But congratulations, thank you. You're ready to go to work. Yes, 4:00:17.480 --> 4:00:22.360 I am, you know it. Fantastic. Okay, here's Rod. Congratulations, 4:00:22.760 --> 4:00:25.520 thank you, thank you. Coach Marinelli. He said, how are 4:00:25.520 --> 4:00:29.600 you doing? Oh? Wow Marinelli? Coach Marinelli? Right, how are 4:00:29.640 --> 4:00:31.800 we doing there? Your voice? I'm doing great. I'm so 4:00:31.880 --> 4:00:36.640 happy you guys. Man. Our place is just as static. 4:00:36.760 --> 4:00:38.840 We've been on pins and needles here a full last 4:00:38.960 --> 4:00:44.080 five six picks. That's awesome. Good places up and running, 4:00:44.160 --> 4:00:47.280 and man, you're coming in and we couldn't we couldn't 4:00:47.320 --> 4:00:51.880 be happier to have a guy like so. Hey, congratulations, buddy, 4:00:52.440 --> 4:00:55.920 thank you. So March all right, Brian Sala, You're very 4:00:56.000 --> 4:00:59.920 happy about all the guys, you know, kind of greeting you, 4:01:00.440 --> 4:01:02.160 welcoming you to the Dallas Go always had to be 4:01:02.160 --> 4:01:04.880 a very special moment for you. Just kind of taking 4:01:04.960 --> 4:01:07.880 that all in right now. Oh yeah, overwhel