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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Welcome to Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: dot COM's live bumper to bumper coverage of the twenty

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Speaker 1: fifteen NFL Draft with David Hellman, Nick Eatman, Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: Bill Jones, Cowboys Coaches, Draft Fix and special guests. Now

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Speaker 1: your hosts, Dane Brugler and Brian brought us and welcome

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Speaker 1: to Draft Day two thousand and fifteen. Along with Brian

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Speaker 1: brought us Dane Brugler and David Hellman, I am Bill

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Speaker 1: Jones and finally, at long last, it is here. It

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Speaker 1: is draft time, not only at Valley Ranch, but also

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Speaker 1: in Chicago in all parts in between. What do you

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Speaker 1: think you're ready? I'll tell you what I've you know,

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Speaker 1: we've been and first off, welcome to our little party

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Speaker 1: and it's it's a pleasure to have you here. And

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Speaker 1: it also though excited because we've started this journey. It

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Speaker 1: feels like forever ago. We go back to the catch

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Speaker 1: it's about time to knock this one home and get

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Speaker 1: it going. You know what just dawned on me too,

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Speaker 1: talking about this since January. We've been studying these players,

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Speaker 1: same thing, but with much much higher stakes, Like nobody

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Speaker 1: cares if I get to pick wrong. You know, I

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Speaker 1: gonna be bummed buck playing about it already when we

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Speaker 1: started to My job's not on the line if I

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Speaker 1: be in Will McClay right now, out this guy over here.

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Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, CBS Sports course of the Draft show as well.

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Speaker 1: How many hours would you say into giving your you

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Speaker 1: how many how many years were you in the league?

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Speaker 1: Giving it's just yeah, thirteen is a marathon. Could doing

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Speaker 1: these drafts since ninety two and it's changed so much.

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Speaker 1: Very first draft was twelve rounds and I couldn't imagine

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Speaker 1: my first my first draft book, that was about two

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Speaker 1: I think when you said finally, I mean that that's it.

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Speaker 1: That's the buzzword. Finally. Yep, and we're gonna be here

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Speaker 1: throughout the draft. This is the first time the Dallas

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Speaker 1: Picked by Pick coverage of the draft. I know, Brian,

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Speaker 1: you're very excited about Yeah, you know, Bill, I I

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Speaker 1: myself looking at players, it's just Dave Well, it's all

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Speaker 1: And the scouts take a lot of pride in that

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Speaker 1: and that's not unprecedented. Dan Marino had twenty three interceptions

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Speaker 1: his senior year. He had a great junior year, bad

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Speaker 1: senior year he had He actually had more interceptions and touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: So it's not unprecedented, but absolutely it's something that is

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Speaker 1: in the equation. And for Winston, he had forty touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: ten interceptions freshman, that's right, is a Richard freshman. Then

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Speaker 1: this past year twenty five touchdowns, eighteen interceptions. I think

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Speaker 1: the thing that bothered me the most about him is

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Speaker 1: you talk about the turnovers. I worry about the lack

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Speaker 1: of mobility and and I'm saying from a and there's

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Speaker 1: some lack of mobility pocket standpoint. Yeah, so you think

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Speaker 1: he's slow even for a pocket Yeah, I have. I

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Speaker 1: have some issues when when things start to break down,

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Speaker 1: you see him have to move. And he's had some

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Speaker 1: runs where he's been you know, got through and managed

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Speaker 1: to bounce off scrambler. He's not And I think that's

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Speaker 1: the thing that I would worry about though, if he's

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Speaker 1: not well protected initially and then having to make a

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Speaker 1: lot of moves and then having to throw the ball.

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Speaker 1: I think when you pressure him, just noticing on the tape,

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Speaker 1: the biggest trouble and you can say it's about any quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but especially this one. The more pressure he would face,

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Speaker 1: the worst he would play, in my opinion. And that's

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Speaker 1: and That's interesting because I was there were times and

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Speaker 1: I'm not just talking about the Oregon game and having

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Speaker 1: to come back because he is a rallying quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: mean the one loss on his right, yeah exactly, but

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Speaker 1: when you watch the mistakes that he had, it was

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Speaker 1: him having to do something move to throw when you

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Speaker 1: when you stand there and throw. He can make the throws.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, But I worried about. I worry about if

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Speaker 1: the Buccaneers don't protect him well enough initially, which offensive

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Speaker 1: line is not a strength for the Tami. I'll be

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Speaker 1: honest with you. I disagree with you there. I like

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Speaker 1: his mobility in the pocket compared to what a lot

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Speaker 1: of these college guys slide just to slide. I think

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Speaker 1: he can sense it, and he can. I've seen him

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Speaker 1: do it enough, recognize blitzes, move in the pocket and

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Speaker 1: be able to sense where that pressure is coming from. Now,

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Speaker 1: does he need to improve in a lot of areas there? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Is he Marcus Mariota when it comes to moving around? No,

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Speaker 1: he's not. He doesn't have that type of athleticism. But

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Speaker 1: I'm still okay with you know, his pocket mobility, his movement,

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Speaker 1: his ability to sense pressure. I think perhaps his biggest

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Speaker 1: the biggest difference for him from his red shirt freshman

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Speaker 1: year to his red shirt sophomore year. He didn't have

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Speaker 1: Kelvin and he's got he's got a nice little white

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Speaker 1: out out down there in Tampa. If they I mean,

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Speaker 1: if they do pick him here, yeah, that's the Johnny

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Speaker 1: Man's And that was the biggest difference for Man as

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Speaker 1: well when he didn't have Mike Evans well. And that

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Speaker 1: was one of the big things for Winston this year

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Speaker 1: is he relied so much on Rashad Green and Nico

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Speaker 1: Leary and defense is picked up and defenses knew that.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's where a lot of those interceptions

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Speaker 1: came from. That's the that's the right there on the TV.

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Speaker 1: They haven't they haven't got finished above five hundred and

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Speaker 1: four years. They haven't made the playoffs in seven seasons.

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Speaker 1: And I don't like, I know, Leonard Williams is the

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Speaker 1: number one guy on Dane's board. I don't think Leonard

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Speaker 1: Williams is reversing your your fortunes in that situation. I

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Speaker 1: think you got to roll the dice and if they

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Speaker 1: hit on Jamis, then they're immediately relevant and immediately in contention.

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Speaker 1: For a playoff spot for the next decade or more.

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Speaker 1: Potential trouble spot for Jamis Winston might be the fact

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Speaker 1: that he's staying home. Absolutely, I mean, I mean, there

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Speaker 1: a lot of people say that it's better, especially for

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Speaker 1: a kid who's had some problems, to get away from home.

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Speaker 1: So it'll be so interesting to see how it plays out.

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Speaker 1: The pick is in. We await the commissioner heading to

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Speaker 1: the pody. By the way, we're watching the NFL network coverage,

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Speaker 1: which I'm sure if you are by a television you're

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Speaker 1: doing the same and you obviously have the sound turned

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Speaker 1: down right here to our live coverage of the NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft twenty fifteen. Did you think there was a big

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Speaker 1: difference between Winston and Mariota when you were doing that

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Speaker 1: your study, big difference, not necessarily, but I felt more

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Speaker 1: comfortable with the transition because pro style offense compared to

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Speaker 1: what happened at Oregon. I felt more comfortable watching Winston's

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Speaker 1: tape and saying NFL throw as an NFL throw, I

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Speaker 1: felt more. I feel more comfortable with Winston as he

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Speaker 1: goes to the NFL level, and Winston he's someone we'll

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Speaker 1: see next year as a rookie. He's not going to

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Speaker 1: be sitting the bench. We will see Winston on the field.

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Speaker 1: Markus Mariota, we'll see where he ends up. If it's

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Speaker 1: in Tennessee. A good chance we don't see Marcus Mariota

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Speaker 1: at least to begin the season. I'm interested to see

512
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Speaker 1: where Mike Glennon winds up if he's if they just

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Speaker 1: keep him there and says the backup to Winston or

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Speaker 1: what could I agree with you? Winston's gonna be playing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it could be a nice trade piece for it the

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Speaker 1: team that doesn't get their quarterback in this draft, you know,

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Speaker 1: later on maybe Friday Saturday. Do you think he was

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Speaker 1: is Glennon and watching him play? Do you think though

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Speaker 1: there's salvageable though when you watch him play Glennon, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's. I mean, there's a reason the

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers are picking number one overall and they're

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Speaker 1: gonna about to draft the quarterback. They basically didn't get

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Speaker 1: him a shot once Lovey came in there last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, Josh McCown, who's Cleveland Brown now the commissioner

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Speaker 1: making his way to the podium. Now we're the first

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Speaker 1: pick In the twenty fifteen NFL Draft, the Tampa Bay

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers select Jameis Winston. Quota quota thing. Oh he's happy.

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Speaker 1: That guy's thrilled. There you have it. We are underway.

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Speaker 1: Jamis Winston, of course, not making the way to Chicago.

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Speaker 1: He looks so surprised. Is there another league in the

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Speaker 1: world where a guy would put on that get up

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Speaker 1: to go to Chicago to watch somebody announced that they

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Speaker 1: got a guy who will play for them five months

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Speaker 1: from now. Now that's the great thing about That's insane

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Speaker 1: and in the fans and all, but yeah, absolutely so.

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Speaker 1: Uh big decision here though, you know Lovey Smith in

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Speaker 1: that group last year, you know that maybe that was

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Speaker 1: a little bit of Uh. I think maybe some surprise

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Speaker 1: with with way the Buccaneers play. Lovey Lovey always been

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Speaker 1: a guy that's come in. Teams have been solid. Defense

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Speaker 1: has always been solid. Did you think that team was

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Speaker 1: that talent poor in certain areas? They definitely are. You

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Speaker 1: talk about the offensive line, offensive line, you can look

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Speaker 1: on defense, then they need some help. And a team

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Speaker 1: that in the last few years have made a lot

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Speaker 1: of splashes in free agency and that hasn't worked out,

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Speaker 1: and so I think now we'll see what they do

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Speaker 1: moving forward in this draft. Hopefully they build from within,

549
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: but there's a nice foundation there with Mike Evans, Vincent Jackson,

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Speaker 1: Austin Seferie and Jenkins. Jamis Winston has some tall trees

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Speaker 1: to throw too in Tampa. So it's gonna be it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be interesting how this how it plays out this

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Speaker 1: year when he's a rookie. And of course they didn't

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Speaker 1: do anything basically offensively in free agency, but there's several

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Speaker 1: former Cowboys now who are Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and Bruce Carter,

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Speaker 1: Henry Milton and Sterling Moore. Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: all right. So I mean, so you got a Cowboys

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Speaker 1: contingent and the number one pick in the draft to

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Speaker 1: look forward to. The Cowboys go down there two weeks

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Speaker 1: before Thanksgiving, see, and and that'll be that's something, and

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Speaker 1: that'll be something that's you know, by that time played

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Speaker 1: quite a few games. Yeah, I think you'll have an idea.

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Speaker 1: You were taught last year with Dane with Teddy Bridgewater.

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Speaker 1: You know, by the end of the season, Teddy Bridgewater

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Speaker 1: was played pretty well and by the way Dane Brugler

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Speaker 1: had Teddy Bridgewater as his number one guy on his

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Speaker 1: big board, so hopefully he keeps that going to keep

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00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: that runner there, he's got a shot too. Yeah, Tennessee

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Speaker 1: is on the clock, and this is where this draft

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Speaker 1: gets interested. There's been so much speculation draft starts on

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Speaker 1: what will Tennessee do, and their phone line has been

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Speaker 1: burning up here in the last several days, I'm sure,

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Speaker 1: especially the last several hours. I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: guys saw this, it was right around the time we

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Speaker 1: actually started the show, but Ian Rappapor with NFL dot

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Speaker 1: Com is reporting Philly is offered at Tennessee two first rounders,

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Speaker 1: a third rounder, Fletcher Cox is it, Brandon Boykin, that's quarterback,

578
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Speaker 1: Michael Kendricks their linebacker, and Sam Bradford to get to

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Speaker 1: this pick, and apparently rabbitfre says it's not enough Tennessee

580
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Speaker 1: once more. Wow, I mean that's a hot always at

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Speaker 1: two ones two ones, so one this year and next year,

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Speaker 1: a third this year. Fletcher Cox, who is a boss

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Speaker 1: at that for at defensive line at the nose, Brandon Boykin,

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Speaker 1: who's a decent okay dB. Michael Kendricks who has been

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Speaker 1: good for them, So how close is Cox to free agency.

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00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: I want to say they just picked up his option,

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Speaker 1: so he's good. They have to pay him after one

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Speaker 1: season based BOYCN is probably into his free agent year

589
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Speaker 1: coming up, and Sam Bradford also is last year, and

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Speaker 1: so I mean that's a really that is a very

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00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: good point. Is that this is a short term options.

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Speaker 1: They look at it as two ones in the three. Yeah,

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00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: that's a really great point. Okay, it's gonna either come

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Speaker 1: down to the quarterback or Williams, right, Leonard Williams, is

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Speaker 1: that who you know? If you Marcus Mariota is getting

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Speaker 1: picked here, I I just I don't. I'm not good

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Speaker 1: even be a scenario wherever he gets picked and then

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Speaker 1: go somewhere else. I think that's definitely impossible. That is

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Speaker 1: that's a good point. I mean, really, it hasn't happened

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Speaker 1: since since ELI and four. Yeah, but so it's not

601
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Speaker 1: a common occurrence, but it is something if a deal

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Speaker 1: does not get done now. But I think you're right, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Mariota is the pick here. It has to be either

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Speaker 1: because somebody's that desperate to get him, or I mean,

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Speaker 1: Tennessee's not in a much different boat than Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion. And we don't know if Tennessee's been

607
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: lying all all along, but apparently wizen Hunt likes Mettenburger,

608
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: former LASU quarterback. I mean he's the next coming. He's yea.

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Speaker 1: If I'm making the picks, I'm like Mariota, no thank

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Speaker 1: you because Mettenberger's taking And by the way, there was

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Speaker 1: some speculation that Philip Rivers could get traded from San

612
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Speaker 1: Diego to Tennessee. And Philip Rivers was told today by

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Speaker 1: the Chargers he's not getting traded and they're talking about

614
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Speaker 1: a contract extension for him. Huh. Well you know this

615
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: one though, bothers me a little bit. Why is that? Well, again,

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Speaker 1: the skill level of the player. Can can this quarterback

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Speaker 1: make all the throne? And how quickly can he adapt

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00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: to the NFL game? I think you have a bigger

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00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: question about that, about how he adapts. Yeah, absolutely, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's you watch the tape. You can see

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Speaker 1: the traits he I think he can do it all.

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Speaker 1: But just arm strength though, I'm okay with the arms, right,

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Speaker 1: It's not it's not elite, but I'm okay with it.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's passable, it's a it's a it's enough, um,

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Speaker 1: But in this league, you have to be accurate. Right. Yes,

626
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: he set a record at Oregon for completion percentage, but

627
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: you watch this offense. It allowed receivers to be wide open,

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00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: and he would miss those a lot of times. I

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Speaker 1: just worry about that. That's where I disagree with you

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Speaker 1: on that, because I thought that was one of his

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Speaker 1: best traits that he had. With the accuracy part of it, though,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying it was. It is. I'd

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Speaker 1: say best traits, but one of the traits when the

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00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: ball was coming out he was guys were catching it

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Speaker 1: on the move and stuff like that. Money threw six

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Speaker 1: picks in college or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The thing

637
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: about it, I didn't see the ball going down the field.

638
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: That's why I thought that as a player, as a quarterback,

639
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, Okay, he's accurate because everything is, everything is quick,

640
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: everything is underneath, everything is the open receivers. Now I

641
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: do I do grant you the inside some of the

642
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: inside throws, the ends, those kinds of routes where there

643
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: were some high balls behind and stuff. But I thought

644
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: overall that was it. So you know, I could see

645
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: though I could see him being the pick. I think that,

646
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: you know, I think you're absolutely in a minute and

647
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: a half to go on the clock, and they got

648
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: the pick in Twitter Tennessee Titan. Twitter seems to be

649
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Speaker 1: indicating that it will be Marcus Mariota to Tennessee. I got.

650
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: I mean there are teams I mentioned the Cleveland Browns

651
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: they want Mariota, but they are balking at giving up

652
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: more than twelve and nineteen to get him. So could

653
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: we see something after this? We're seeing handshakes hands around.

654
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: You get that's gonna be the quarterback? Right? I think so? No, absolutely,

655
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: have you ever seen them drafted a defensive tackle instead

656
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: of a quarterback? Well, literal Williams. I would, I would

657
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: high five Linard Williams. I'd give it, you know, Leary Williams.

658
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: I'm all I think of whoever their picket, there's gonna

659
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: be handshakes all around. But yeah, that's true, nobody. Yeah,

660
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm still waiting for the press conference after the

661
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: first round where one team is like, we got the

662
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: wrong guy. So if if Mariota is the pick, though,

663
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: everybody you know down my pick right here. I feel

664
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Speaker 1: better about Jameis Winston than Marcus Mariota. That's just me.

665
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: I mean, if that's what you're asking. See, I feel

666
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Speaker 1: really not great about either one of them. I mean

667
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Speaker 1: to I mean totally, I don't feel great. I don't

668
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: feel like and I'm not trying to sit there and

669
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: compare hint, these guys to Andrew Luck No, no, and

670
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: and And that's what scares me because I feel like

671
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: I've been talking all along about Bryce Petty, you know,

672
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to think, okay, but see there's no

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Speaker 1: second or or its gonna be third quarterback that you

674
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: could say, Okay, I'll wait to the top of the

675
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: second round and grab that guy, unless you really do

676
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: like Betty. If you like Bryce Petty and you're sitting

677
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: Tennessee and you're sitting there at thirty three, then you

678
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: could go a different direction in right and take Petty

679
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: at that point because that maybe trade into See this

680
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: is where it hits you in the guns because who

681
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: came over the next squ the next quarterbacks not so

682
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 1: much gonna be compared to Winston. It's probably gonna be Mariota.

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00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: You know, if you look at bus factors, who has

684
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: the probably the biggest chance for bus bus factors, I

685
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: think it would probably be. Uh, do you see do

686
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: you see Pro Bowls and either one of these two

687
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: quarterbacks futures Winston maybe Mariota not really Yeah, yeah, I

688
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: don't see it. I don't either. I just can't believe

689
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: I can see like I and I know they're they're

690
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: different players. They're very different players. I get that. But

691
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: I am reminded a lot of Cam Newton with Winston,

692
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: with how much he was screwed. Jam Newton is not

693
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: a bad player. He's a good player. He's I mean,

694
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: he's taken the Panthers to the playoffs two years. He's

695
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 1: gonna get an extension. I think I think Winston could

696
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: be Newton. Where the second pick in the twenty fifteen

697
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Speaker 1: NFL drafts, the Tennessee Titans select Marcus Mariotto. Mariotte seven months.

698
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: There's only two dudes. It's two quarterbacks. Roger Lord So,

699
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks off the board. First time since twenty twelve

700
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: we had quarterbacks go one two. Sixth time in history

701
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: we've had quarterbacks go one two. See, this is what

702
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: first time since luck and RG three? Correct, this is

703
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: what kind of this just shows you though, what happens.

704
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: And you said it earlier. There's a reason why Tampa

705
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: in Tennessee are picking here right now, and and and

706
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden and more so though

707
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: in more so though in Tennessee, you got a head

708
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: coach that's not exactly sitting very pretty there or a

709
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 1: general managers. I mean, if you've tied your you're you're

710
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: you've tied your your maybe your fate to this kid.

711
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: But what choice do you have, you know, Leonard Leonard

712
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: William you could have took that trade. They kind of

713
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 1: took that trade. But you have taken in that trade.

714
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: But I mean, you're again, it was it was Philadelphia.

715
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: If you feel good, if you feel good about if

716
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: you feel good about Zach Mettenberg, I mean that's you're

717
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: talking about a lot of guys who aren't under contract,

718
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 1: like the fact like Cox and Bradford aren't gonna fox Bradford.

719
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: But could those guys help your overall team. I mean,

720
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: I'm not feeling a lot better about Sam Bradford. And

721
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: tell you the church the thing with Sam Bradford, keep it,

722
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: keep Sam Bradford out, But he's foxing Kendricks and knows well.

723
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: Cox is a one year guy that's a thing. You

724
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: gotta resign. Tools done playing basically, and the picks were

725
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: Philadelphia the twentieth pick in the first round, first round

726
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: next year, and the fifty second pick. I actually, I

727
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: take that back. I guess Cox would be a two

728
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: year guy if they picked up his option last week. Okay,

729
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: so you got two years from Fletcher. Let's remember he's

730
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: a Tennessee Titan four. Now look, Jacksonville Jaguars, this has

731
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: gotta be Dante Fowler. We've talked. Don't rule out of

732
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: Cooper here. I'm with you. Fowler makes the most sense.

733
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I'm hitching my wagon to the bruglermobile

734
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: over here. Jacksonville picked all those wide receivers last year. Also,

735
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: you gotta go they got Mark eas Lee last year.

736
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: That's true, Alan Robinson and Hearns. That's an undrafted free

737
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: agency they hit on defensive. Head coach Jacksonville knew exactly

738
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: the direction they were going, in my opinion, but they

739
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: when they sat there said, okay, fine, you guys talk

740
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: about those quarterbacks. I think that we saw Jacksonville play

741
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: last year. Jerry Sullivan I was not bad. The receivers

742
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 1: are not bad. Jackson He's got a lot of young guys.

743
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: I think they need defensive help here. Yeah. Hey, and

744
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: Fowler was my was my was my third guy on

745
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: the board. Architect, the architect of that Seattle defense is

746
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: the guy making this picks. And of course they in

747
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: free agency, they signed Julius Thomas, so they got their

748
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: big tight end. That Actually, all right, I'm off the

749
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: Cooper train now, I didn't. I forgot about Julius Thomas.

750
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: Fowler makes a lot of sense. Justus Bradley wants his

751
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: pass rusher last year, Marks Lee, that's another that's another program.

752
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: That's let's keep in mind one foot in the parking

753
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: lot at this time last year. Who who thought it

754
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: was gonna be playing Bortles? You know, yeah I did

755
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: because that was my number one quarterback. But did you

756
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 1: think they played it? You think Jacksonville is gonna take him? Yes,

757
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: jackson Well, I did. For the we did for the

758
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: media masses out there. It was very surprising because Jacksonville

759
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: played it so close to the vest. Absolutely, I wasn't surprised.

760
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: The Manzell hype and that stuff. I wasn't surprised Bortles

761
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: went high. I was surprised Jacksonville went that direction because

762
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: they kept that so secreted. Well, that's David Calwell down there.

763
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: Believe that's what that's secretive. Polling Disciple Polling was always

764
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: one of those guys, and it was easy for them

765
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: to meet with Bordles and work him out with anybody

766
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: knowing it because he's at Central Florida there in Jacksonville.

767
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: That's kind of refreshing that an NFL team in this

768
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: day and age can still kind of keep their cards

769
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: close to the vest because there's so many sources, well,

770
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: not a lot of people covering the team, and a

771
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: small market I've worked I've worked at when they used

772
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: to have two guys Pete Priscoe and John Osher with

773
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: only two guys that met, theres a few more now

774
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: it might be a few more and Jacksonville and free agency.

775
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: The most notable pickup was Jared Addrick defensive end. But

776
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 1: Dante Fowler has been saying for weeks that he thinks

777
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: he's going to Jacksonville. Future makes Leonard Williams not as

778
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: much of a need out there. And I know we

779
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: only talk about picking this early. It's not about in need,

780
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: about talent. Dante Fowler's one heck of a talent. Speaking

781
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: of Cowboy free agents, Jeremy Parnell will be lining up

782
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: at tackle for them this year. Exactly right, that's right.

783
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: I don't know if he'll be on the right side

784
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: or the left side. I was right. They did draft joke,

785
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: they did. You're right, yeah, Brian, you know I like

786
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 1: my stats. I know you do. Okay, d you watch

787
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: the tape too? Oh, no, of course. But Jamis Winston.

788
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: He is only the second redshirt sophomore quarterback to be

789
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: drafted top twenty. Ever, the first was not Johnny Manzil

790
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: because he went like twenty two or exactly. The first

791
00:39:53,360 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: was about fifteen years ago, now, kid out of Virginia Tech. Oh,

792
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: Michael Vick, Michael Vick. That's right. He was the first

793
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 1: retrod sophomore quarterback to be drafted number one overall. Jameis

794
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: Winson the second. Wow, they've they're getting out of commercial

795
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: break on NFL network, and so that means the commissioner

796
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: will make his way to the podium. Very sick. Yeah,

797
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: we saw it again. We saw Jacksonville live. They just

798
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: don't have enough. They didn't have any dynamic. The pass wrong,

799
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what you know. The game started well

800
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: for him, and then what happened? It just did They

801
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: couldn't they couldn't generate. That's the classic. It's like name

802
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 1: five Jacksonville Jaguars and you're like, I don't know. By

803
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: the way, you can tweet us at the draft show

804
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: if you have any questions, and we're monitoring that and

805
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: we'll answer your tweeted to questions as well as we

806
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: uh mosey along here. You got Bill Jones, Brian brought us,

807
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 1: Dane Bruegler, David Hellman, We'll have some others are working

808
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: it as well as we take potty breaks as we

809
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: go along the way here. But it's a marathon, it is.

810
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: It's not a sprint. It's a marathon. We got Jacksonville

811
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: number three, followed by Oakland and Washington, and again it's

812
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: the two quarterbacks have gone pretty much as expected, Winston

813
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 1: and Mariota. I'm really in tu if we're assuming foulers

814
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: the pick here. I'm really intrigued by what happens after

815
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: because I mean, Leonard Leonard Williams best player in the draft,

816
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: right that? Yeah? I think, well on your board is

817
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: he he's number one? Right? You get to pair the

818
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: best player in this draft with Khalil Mack. I just

819
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: think that sounds dynamite for the Oakland Raiders. And I'm

820
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 1: terrified for Raiders fans, not that I have any stake,

821
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: but they deserve to have a good team after however

822
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: many years it's been. I just think that's the most

823
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: Raiders thing I've ever heard, to go get a flat

824
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: like there's value at help but helped, but helped the

825
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: quarterback and if the computer comes, you can help the quarterback.

826
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: In the second round, with the third pick in the

827
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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen NFL Draft, the Jacksonville Jaguards select Dante Fowler Junior.

828
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: There he goes, that's Dante Holar junior. Three for three

829
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: in the Monk Draft. I feel good. There you go,

830
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: perfect score for Dane Brugler in his draft. Hey, there's

831
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 1: not some people that now now comes. Now comes the

832
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: real and by the way, Oakland is now on the clock. Yeah,

833
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: and Oakland again, we've talked about a couple different things.

834
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: And for your folks that are I see some folks

835
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: on h that are tweeting at the draft show. We

836
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: do not control the war room cam. That what you

837
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Speaker 1: see is the space when I actually don't see you

838
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: see us when they are when they got it the

839
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: camera cook. Yeah, and this is when they would let

840
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: us look, you know, like why let me tell you

841
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: this from my experience, there might be some more discussions

842
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: going on there making sure going through us. So they're

843
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: afraid about lip readers, Well they could very well be.

844
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Speaker 1: I mean, if we do our shows talking cowboys, and

845
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 1: I always put my hand because folks are really good,

846
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. Yeah, is there someone here

847
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 1: at Valley Ranch who's monitoring all of the other nfl

848
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: FELL websites to see if they can get any tips

849
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: from anybody anywhere. Well, I'll tell you that when I

850
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: was in pro personnel, I mean that was what I

851
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: was trying to my best to have as much information.

852
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: We didn't have the access to Twitter and Internet. I

853
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: mean there were certain guys that you followed beat writers

854
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: that you might have liked insight and give you a

855
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: little insight. But I believe what's going on in the

856
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: war room right now is like I said, with it

857
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: being covered and we'll get eating. Well they could they again,

858
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 1: it could be just as it could be just talking

859
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: about the catering right out there, how they're going to

860
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: handle handle this when it gets down, is everybody once

861
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: again comfortable with whatever player? You know, it's in the direction.

862
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: Maybe they're running through a couple of last minute things

863
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: and then we'll go right to that, all right. Uh.

864
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 1: And if the Cowboys wanted to trade up, how how

865
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: far do you think they could go? I mean, if

866
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: they wanted to Todd Gurley or something. How much ammunition

867
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: do they have to go up? How far? It's an

868
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: interesting question. I mean, you think about the needs of

869
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: this team, has uh, the picks they have available to him,

870
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: and how far you have to go? I mean, you know,

871
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: the steam on Todd Gurley has just been gathering. And

872
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: not mean I'm using that as a hypothetical, but he

873
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: has climbed from first round to top twenty to top fifteen.

874
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: I saw him as high as twelve earlier this afternoon. Uh.

875
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: And you get into this scenario where I mean, you're

876
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: either talking about giving away future picks or more excuse me, mouthful,

877
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: mortgaging this entire draft to get up there. I mean,

878
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 1: let's say San Diego and Miami are the first plausible

879
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: options to take a running back and to make that

880
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 1: high of a jump, you're talking about giving away second

881
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: rounders third. I mean, you could be if it's a

882
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: running if it's a running back, you're probably gonna have

883
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: to get ahead of San Diego. You have to go

884
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: to Houston. It's how about Miami though, that's and I

885
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: mean they are linked to Gurley, but they can't go

886
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: that high. And in my opinion, I mean, if they

887
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: package their first and second round pick, they could possibly

888
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: get to sixteen. If Houston was a willing soul. It's

889
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: theory ically possible. But you get into should you do that?

890
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: And I think the answer a lot of the last

891
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: three years, they've basically they've traded up significantly, giving up

892
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: a top one hundred pick. The Clayborne deal had traded

893
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: a second, and then last year trading a third to

894
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 1: move up in the second round. We've been seeing trade

895
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: rumors earlier today that the Cowboys might want to acquire

896
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: Michael Brockers from Saint Louis. But how about that though

897
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 1: we were in the parking lot. Yeah no, And granted

898
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: the Cowboys dismissed it completely, but it's just funny to

899
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: me that they could have had Michael Brockers if they

900
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: hadn't been jumping around in the first place, So I'm

901
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 1: against trading up unless it's a very favorable deal. Quickly

902
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: go around Williams or Cooper is for this pick for

903
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: the Raiders. I go Cooper and the pick is in, Okay,

904
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: I'm going Cooper, and then I think I think it

905
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 1: should be well. And the other thing Kevin White. There's

906
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: there's a lot of so called experts out there who

907
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: have Kevin White above Maury Cooper. I just think that

908
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: if you it's Cooper, he's such such a smooth player,

909
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: made the way he the trade offen. Yeah, I really

910
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: really like him a lot. We talked about helping out

911
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: that quarterback. You have to and you do. You do it.

912
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: The thing is, it's it's tough because Leonard Williams to

913
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: me is the best player in this draft. I agree

914
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: with you there, but but you have to help out that.

915
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: You have to help out your quarterback. And I think

916
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: Maori Cooper is I hate using the word safe when

917
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: it comes to the NFL Draft. He is one of

918
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: the safer picks this year. I think you know what

919
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: you're getting. You pair him with Michael Crabtree, who the

920
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: Raiders signed all of a sudden. Derek Carr has some

921
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: tools to work with. What if I told you you

922
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: could have Leonard Williams anchoring your defense and go get

923
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: like DGB at the beginning of the second round, that

924
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: do anything for you. I'm not big on DGB. I

925
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: know he's scary, but there are other I mean, if

926
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: he's not your cup of tea, there are other wide receivers.

927
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 1: I think. I think recent drafts have proven that there's

928
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: value to be had there and wide receiver. I mean,

929
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: I can't argue with it. Yeah, I mean, you spend

930
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: a high pick on a back, you should get him

931
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: some help. But I don't know. I haven't been in

932
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: love Dave got We we saw that team live. It

933
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: didn't know two years ago. We didn't know last year

934
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: the camp. Yeah, trading kid, it kind of kicked the

935
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: Cowboys butts. But but but no weapons. So really at

936
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: the receiver spot, I mean, yeah, Derek, you're right Carr.

937
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: I thought Derek Carr played his butt off, and I

938
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: think you have to help him. I think you have

939
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: to find a way to try and help him. This

940
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: could be a little bit of the LSU Homer in me,

941
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: but I just have never I'm not in love with

942
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper that's I mean, I don't think he you

943
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: talk about do you see him making Pro Bowls? And

944
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: you know, I don't see him being a Megatron type guy.

945
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: And that's the type that's what you're looking for when

946
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: you draft the receiver this high. John Gruden made an

947
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: interesting comparison and he called him Tim Brown. Reminded him,

948
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: that's a nice comparison. That was the best comparison I

949
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: have heard yet. He's a faster Tim Brown, though Tim

950
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: Brown was never a guy that could really haul him.

951
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he made as far as that type

952
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: of speed. So what we were thinking we thinking receiver

953
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: here were thinking offense. I'm going Cooper, where is my

954
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: best player? I can understand. Fifteen NFL Draft, The Oakland

955
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: Raiders select Amari Cooper. There you go, yeah, wide receiver Alabama.

956
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: So so far this draft is going according to form

957
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: as the hated Washington Redskins are now on the clock

958
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: the number five pick. And if you're the Redskins that

959
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 1: picked in a while, have they this? Yeah? And this

960
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: couldn't have worked out better for them to get that.

961
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 1: Williams You go, I mean, well what about an offensive

962
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: lineman here? Though? Where does where? I mean where do

963
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: where do you play Williams? If you're the Redskins three

964
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: to four, he's your five technique. I mean, he's your Wow.

965
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 1: Do you think that's the kind of a waste playing

966
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: him as at? Yeah? But does J. J. Watts more

967
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: of a linear kind of a guy though. Williams, he

968
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 1: seems like he's meant to be in a four three

969
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: to me, Yeah, I'd see him like playing that three

970
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: on the shoulder up the field coast. Is it plausible

971
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: to think Washington passes two and your number one is

972
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: all of a sudden sitting there at six. I think

973
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: we have to look at what do we talked about all? All?

974
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: Along with Washington? They want to trade back. Yeah, the

975
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: best players on the board right now, if Mom draft,

976
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm the bear down Chicago Bar. I'm thinking about getting

977
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: up there right That phone is buzzing right now. Yeah,

978
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: if you look at if you look at Redskins needs

979
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: outside linebacker, safety, potentially a wide receiver or quarterback was

980
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 1: also something that we had kind of worked on. Looking

981
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: again at offensive lineman as well. You know, I don't

982
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 1: know you talk about the guys they brought in. Vic

983
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,919
Speaker 1: Beasley is a guy they brought in. Uh, let's see

984
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: who else was another guy? Anybody of substance and Litterard

985
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: Williams Terd Williams was one of their visits. This is

986
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: redk this is the Redskins. So I mean, if he's

987
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: that good, you find something to do it. I just

988
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: think that they they're offensive line. I think they have to,

989
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: you know. And this is where I think, this is

990
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: where shuff I feel good about taking SUREF five. I

991
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: think that you don't like Chriff No, no, I like him.

992
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: I like it. I'm fine. I'm fine with him. I'm

993
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 1: fine with him as going to the reds I think

994
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: he's a guard. I don't think he's a tack tic

995
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: a guard fifth overall, and he's a right tackle. He well,

996
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: he plays he plays left tackle in the NFL. Is

997
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: he a right tackle? Dane, I wouldn't play it right.

998
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: I wouldn't play the tackles his arm. He's a guard.

999
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: But I'm not sold on this at all. Based on

1000
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: what you're saying, they might. It'll be interesting to see

1001
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,479
Speaker 1: what they list him at they might list him. That'll

1002
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: give you a little bit of a clue if they

1003
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: in fact draft him. But I I wouldn't be surprised

1004
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: they went offensive line here. I really really wouldn't. I

1005
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: agree with you. A sheriff to that was a mess

1006
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: was in my mock draft, but Leonard Williams was not available,

1007
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: and so I think that it's hard to pass on

1008
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: Leonard Williams here. It's just it's tough to do and

1009
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: you're picking top five. And what the Redskins have done

1010
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 1: in free agency, They've signed several defensive lineman Ricky Jean

1011
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: Franz Swi from Indianapolis, Terry to Denver, Stephen Pia from Chicago.

1012
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: There you go. See. I just think, you know, when

1013
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: you talk about the Redskins and you look their offensive line,

1014
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: we saw that at the end of the year. Do

1015
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: you think he's like a Zach Martin type beat He's not,

1016
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: so you can take five overall. He's not. But that's

1017
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 1: what you just took Marcus Mariota too. Don't you take

1018
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 1: best player available? Maybe he's the best player on their board.

1019
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: I bet he's not. I bet this is gonna be

1020
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: Leonard Williams and you figure it out. Yeah, I just

1021
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: I just don't see. I mean, I'm watching that team

1022
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at those offensive linemen, and I'm Corey

1023
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: Lichtensteiger at center. Uh oh, their line is not good.

1024
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to argue that it is. Yeah, I

1025
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 1: mean Chester right guard. Um. The Virginia kid they drafted

1026
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: last year was yep, um, Moses Moses. Thank you? Yeah,

1027
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: who do they have done as right tackle for them?

1028
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: But right tackle? Art you're looking at I'm looking at

1029
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: right Yeah it's Moses, Okay. More and then remember Tom Compton? Yeah, Tom,

1030
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: remember the Columbia. Yeah, they were playing. They were playing

1031
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: with a bunch of just bad guys to picks in

1032
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: right now? Is for the Redskins. I just very interesting.

1033
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: Just as much as I love and he was a visit,

1034
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: as much as I love Williams Man, I just that

1035
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: offensive line was bad. You know you know something. No,

1036
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm looking at too. I'm looking at their

1037
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: offensive line. Dave. Now, you're you're right. Nothing you are

1038
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: saying is wrong. It's my job to a guy. It's

1039
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: just the Leonard. It's just what do you always say,

1040
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: don't you take? Don't you want best player available? Over

1041
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: going for a need just because he needed he visited.

1042
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: But they might not think that way. They might think

1043
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 1: about how they had what is their biggest investment? Who

1044
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,479
Speaker 1: is their biggest investment? Robert R. G three better find

1045
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: a way to keep his butt upright. Yeah, you're not wrong.

1046
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: Jordan Harper tweets in get ready for the runner to

1047
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: go at six? Girlie to the jet. Now, that would

1048
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: be stunning, That would be stunning, would be stunning. I

1049
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: just I again, seeing the Redskins played twice a year,

1050
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: it just it makes sense to me. Does it makes sense? No,

1051
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: you're absolutely it makes sense. It also tells you why

1052
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: they were trying to trade out of this spot. But

1053
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: they are picking right now. Twitter. Twitter has tipped it,

1054
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: and it is schurf not to ruin the sustain draft.

1055
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 1: The Washington Redskins select Brandon Schriff tackle whatever you say,

1056
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: hats I had it in my mos. I'm okay. Clearly

1057
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: the Redskins were tuned into Dallas Cowboys dot com and

1058
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: he did the advice of Briants Bran. Let me tell

1059
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: you what though, I just told you the biggest investment

1060
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 1: they had was that quarterback. They're also they're only tied

1061
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 1: to him for two more seasons. They I mean, you

1062
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: don't know if he's your line, tell me what they

1063
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: listed him as. If you could up there they're gonna

1064
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: show maybe we can pull it up on the internet. Yeah,

1065
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: I wonder if they're going to listen to as a

1066
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: tackle or a guard. I have he's listed as a tackle.

1067
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter when NFL network says, yeah I think

1068
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: or they might list him as a sprinter and you

1069
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: have a seven o seven cone drill or something ridiculous

1070
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: like that as one of the better ones. Can we

1071
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: can we in the Cowboys organization? Can we take this

1072
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: as an opportunity to pat us on the back? Is this?

1073
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: Is this an example of NFL teams playing copycat, trying

1074
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 1: to go get a dominant guard like Zach Martin. Well,

1075
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: I think that Tom kaugh would set it after one

1076
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: of they did games, he said, hey, we need to

1077
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: be more like the Dallas cowp Yeah, we need to

1078
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 1: find a way to run the football, protect a football

1079
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: and be like that Zach Martin. That's what and that's

1080
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: my point. Yeah, what he did last year. Who knows

1081
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: if they might play him right tackle. It's possible. Yeah, definitely,

1082
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: it's possible they might play me tackle. Take a look

1083
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: at him at many camp and see what he and

1084
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: he played left tackle the last three years, did pay

1085
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: three starts as a left guard his first year at IOWA.

1086
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: All I've heard all spring is that Leonard Williams is

1087
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: the truth. I just can't believe it. Of course, Zach

1088
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: Martin played left tackle at Notre Dame. If you're the

1089
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears, even though they drafted two defensive tackles last year,

1090
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 1: I would be trying and get the hell up there

1091
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: and get that guy. All right, So you think Todd

1092
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: Bowles is happy New York on the clock right now?

1093
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles, former Cowboys assistant coach. That's three four defense

1094
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: though too again right, and they don't you look at

1095
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 1: their needs? Uh? Is Leonard Williams a no brainer here?

1096
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: Or could they go in a different direction? And you

1097
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Atlanta moved to three four, So

1098
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: now you're talking about we heard they were trying to

1099
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: trade Wilkerson earlier today. Defensive end, they have Wilkerson and

1100
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 1: Sheldon richardson right now? Is their ends. Those are two

1101
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: above average starters in the league. But so it doesn't

1102
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: sound like a team that needs Leonard Williams. But Muhammad

1103
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: Wilkerson has been rumored as being on the trade bull absolutely,

1104
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: So if Leonard Williams is the pick here, I think

1105
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: there's a good shot we see Wilkerson delt at some

1106
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: point this weekend. Yeah, Alfred Morris tweets I am a

1107
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: happy camper, which should be absolutely And with Sheriff, we

1108
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: talk about the threshold for arm length being probably about

1109
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: thirty three in arms to play tackle. He had almost

1110
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: thirty three and a half, so he can play out there,

1111
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: but I don't think you feel comfortable about it. He's

1112
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: a much better guard. You want him inside less space

1113
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: to cover, and you want him playing to his strength,

1114
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: and that's as a run blocker, a guy that can

1115
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: get to the second level, eliminate bodies and just be

1116
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: a bad guy beat up guys. Really good point that

1117
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: I kind of forgot about there, and the excitement of

1118
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: the pick is who's the offensive line coach with the

1119
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: rest Callahan. Yeah, so that's interesting. Interesting if you look

1120
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 1: at the Jets, the needs or talk about as the quarterback,

1121
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: the outside linebacker rusher too early for Bud Duprie or

1122
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: maybe Vic Beasley or Vic Beasley, I think bud dupri

1123
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: is uh definitely in the mix here. Running back would

1124
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: be another one as well, so we've talked about that

1125
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: is what is the potential Todd Gurley at six, any

1126
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 1: thoughts on that coming off at ACL who do the

1127
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: Jets have Ivory? And they have do they still have Ivory?

1128
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 1: Let's see, I just looked at the job, so let's

1129
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 1: look at the Jets. Uh looks like to me running

1130
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:10,959
Speaker 1: backs Ivory and Ridley Powell would be another one too.

1131
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: I have bud Dupris to the Jets here in my

1132
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: mock draft. But again Leonard Williams was not available. So

1133
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: they visited Vic Beasley, that was one bud Dupre and

1134
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: visited them as well. So two guys, uh as, let's

1135
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: see if they did anything with the runner at all

1136
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: with Grey. They did not visit Gurley. You go back

1137
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: to Mike mccagnan, the first year general manager. You look

1138
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: back to from Houston, and look what they did to Houston.

1139
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: They invested in pass rushers, they invested in I mean,

1140
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: they could go in any direction here because you look

1141
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: at Leonard Williams, you look at a bud Dupre, even

1142
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: a Kevin White as a possibility. In Houston, they drafted

1143
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: you know, DeAndre Hopkins in the first round. Um, you

1144
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: know mccagnan was there when they drafted Andre Johnson, so

1145
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: I can't rule out wide receiver here. Leonard Williams, bud dupre.

1146
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: I think that's that's where we're looking and what they've

1147
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: done with their defense and free agency. Of course they

1148
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: have signed Durrell Rivas as well as Antonio Cromarty from

1149
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. They've taken a lot of time here. It

1150
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: might be trying to field some calls. You know, they're

1151
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: they're pretty deep into the clock, right, There's got to

1152
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: be a pretty good a lot of interest in Leonard

1153
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: Williams absolutely. I mean, I think Mike mcagnet is trying

1154
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: to see if in fact something can happen. Let's see, uh,

1155
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: and then it gets there. We're looking live into the

1156
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: Jets war room, which is bad for you guys here.

1157
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: When you get when you get down to sixty seconds,

1158
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: that means you're talking to people, right, you're trying. You're trying,

1159
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: you're trying to shop the pick, and then it gets

1160
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: down in it. If you don't have the satisfactory trade potential,

1161
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: then the GM will say hand the card in and

1162
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: then you go, is there a cut off? I mean,

1163
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: what second mark do you have to be like, hey,

1164
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: put the phone down. I think we we one time

1165
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: got yelled at by the league for doing a trade,

1166
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: the Roy Williams trade, the Roy Williams the safety trade.

1167
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: We got a little close with Kansas City and Minnesota.

1168
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: That's one of those things that Chris Hall said, hey,

1169
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: did he may turn in that trade next to you know,

1170
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones is diving on the table, hitting the hitting

1171
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: the speaker phone there on the table to get the trade.

1172
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: And then the league callback said, don't ever do that again.

1173
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: So was it? That was it? That? It was pretty?

1174
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: It was pretty Yeah, it was pretty conversation. We've got

1175
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: the Jets followed by Chicago, Atlanta and the New York

1176
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: Football Giants are picking at number nine, Jets at number six. Okay,

1177
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: where would you play Leonard Williams again? If you uh,

1178
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: if if in fact that he went, now, this is

1179
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: our best player and the three four defense. You think

1180
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: about how Todd Bowles used Darnell Dockett in Arizona. That's

1181
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: what I looking at. That's a great example right there. Yeah,

1182
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: but again looking at the Jets roster, they have Sheldon Richardson,

1183
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: they have Muhammad Wilkerson. Of course, Bowls didn't even have

1184
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: docket this last year's right, um, and they we've had

1185
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: one of the best defenses in the league, Tommy Kelly

1186
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: in that role. Could it be that the player is

1187
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: just the best player on the board. I mean, like

1188
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: we've talked about it. It's just okay, we'll take this

1189
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: player and find a spot for him. You're not gonna

1190
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: feel bad about drafting Leonard Williams. I think you would

1191
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: find a spot for Leonard Williams if you had the opportunity.

1192
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: I remember, the other thing interesting about the Jets is

1193
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: they have a need for a quarterback. Yes, And as

1194
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: we get to the Cowboys pick at twenty seven later

1195
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: in the round, the Jets in the second round pick

1196
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: at number thirty seven, and they if they are interested

1197
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: in a Bred Huntley or the pick, they will do

1198
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: the math for you. Give me the he's got the chart.

1199
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: We're ready to roll on if they I I'm I've

1200
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: gone on the record as saying I don't think the

1201
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: Cowboys pick tonight, So anything along those lines. So you're

1202
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: saying it's gonna get down to twenty seven and we're

1203
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: gonna be talking about somebody else's pick. Probably, I just

1204
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: I just have a feeling. So what the Jets pick

1205
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: at thirty seventy seven, I'll pick that as five spots

1206
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: five hundred thirty thinks they'd give up their four at

1207
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: one oh four would match it. The Cowboys pick at

1208
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: twenty seven is worth six hundred and eight points, So

1209
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: you're talking about a difference of one hundred and fifty points.

1210
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: So the Jets would need you need to make up

1211
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty points whether they're one oh four

1212
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: pick in the fourth round eighty six and still still

1213
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,439
Speaker 1: a little light, still a little light. What's their third round?

1214
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: Their third round pick is worth two hundred and forty

1215
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: seven and we're talking about which is slip it? Something

1216
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,439
Speaker 1: we talked about before we came on the airs. Maybe

1217
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: you could flip and exchange third round picks. So but

1218
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: you don't you give the Jets your or your fourth

1219
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: round picks? Excuse me, You give the Jets your pick

1220
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: at the back end of the fourth and move up

1221
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: into the early fourth maybe something like is that worth?

1222
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: It doesn't really sound like going down ten spots here's

1223
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: the commission. Doesn't really sound like it when you put

1224
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: it on paper. Good New York Jets slacked Leonard william

1225
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: Here we go. Ye there is great hair it. Yeah,

1226
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: but no, this does create some questions about Mohammed Wilkerson.

1227
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: Is he on the block? What are they plan to

1228
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: do with with Leonard Williams. You can't pass on the

1229
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: best player available in my opinion, here from Mike mccagnen

1230
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: for Todd Bowls for this for the new regime there

1231
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: with the Jets, it's a home run. Yeah. I think

1232
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: you said it too about how to use the player

1233
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: with Dockett. You know, I think when you do these

1234
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: types of things, you have to have a vision for

1235
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: the player, and I think that's what Mike mccagnan and

1236
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles, you know, they have that and that's good.

1237
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 1: And then Mike and I go way back to the

1238
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: NFL Europe days. He was general manager young man at

1239
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: the London Monarchs that won a championship in nineteen ninety.

1240
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 1: So I'm really proud of him. He's got his first

1241
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: general manager's job in the league. But Leonard Williams to

1242
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: me is a no brainer as it is because of

1243
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 1: the talent of the talent. Now you talked about the

1244
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: scheme fits and things like that, You know, how that

1245
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: how that can all play out. We'll see And Leonard

1246
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: Williams six five, three hundred two pounds sub five flat

1247
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: forty four nine seven and uh, just just following the

1248
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: college football season, I remember on Saturday nights see in

1249
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 1: twitters from college football fans. So yeah, Leonard Williams is

1250
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: the best football player in America. Maybe the most interesting

1251
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: number when it comes to Leonard Williams twenty. It's his age.

1252
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: He doesn't turn twenty one until the summer, so June twentieth.

1253
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 1: A player that he just love the upside. You love

1254
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 1: not only who he is right now, but what he

1255
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: will continue to grow into the player he'll be for

1256
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: you down the road. And Chicago is on the clock

1257
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: the number seven pick. Just to review, Winston went to

1258
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, Mariota to Tennessee, Dante Fowler to Jacksonville, Cooper

1259
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: to Oakland, Shurf to Washington, Williams to the Jets. We've

1260
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: had no trade so far. Do you expect a lot

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01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 1: of trades as we go along? Though, that's interesting that

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01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: we haven't had one. I'm kind of disappointed right now,

1263
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 1: if I'm being honest, just in terms of the entertainment

1264
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: value of the first round and see that that always happens.

1265
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: Though all we all talk big about up and down

1266
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: the board, and maybe you'll have some some at the

1267
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: back end if some of these offensive lineman get down

1268
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: to a certain point somebody says, hey, I got to

1269
01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: dive back in. But overall, teams just pretty much this

1270
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: is our board. We're gonna pick our board and then

1271
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 1: go from there. So yeah, don't ruin my fun. No,

1272
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to ruin your fun at all. And

1273
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 1: you know, but I am saying though that to me

1274
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 1: and the Bears very quickly. And the Bears one of

1275
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: their needs, one of their needs was wide receiver Kevin White.

1276
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: Yea quarterbacks. Yeah, so this this looks like to me, Yeah,

1277
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: this has got Kevin White. I've written all over it.

1278
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 1: Not the TCU cornerback Kevin White, this would be the

1279
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 1: West Virginia wide receiver Kevin White. Yeah. They've talked about again,

1280
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: that's another team that we had the you know we

1281
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: got to see last year live, you know, and now

1282
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: they lose what Brandon Marshall's gone now and so you

1283
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: could lose Brandon Marshall in three months later replace him

1284
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: with Kevin White. Al Shan Jeffrey and Kevin White is

1285
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: not a bad duo, although they are apparently looking at

1286
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 1: shopping and Marty b the former Cowboys. So yeah, that

1287
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: is fascinating. Too early to take Wayne's here though, the

1288
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: corner from Michigan State, that was something a little bit

1289
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 1: of an issue that they had. Yeah, I mean he

1290
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 1: took a corner last year in the first round with

1291
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: Kyle Foolery. You could double up and go corner again,

1292
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 1: but not with Brandon Marshall no longer in town. Alshon

1293
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 1: Jeffrey is your your top receiver? Eddie Royal is there too,

1294
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 1: he is, and with with Kevin White, it just comes

1295
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 1: down to again you're talking about best player available and

1296
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 1: a player that really instantly helps your offense. Yeah, helps,

1297
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 1: Jay Cutler, did you see a players a lot of help?

1298
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: Did you see a player though, that played with that

1299
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: type of speed Kevin White? No, No, I think everyone

1300
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 1: was Florida by that four three five that he ran

1301
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 1: at the combine. No one expected that. But he wasn't

1302
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 1: slow on film, but he didn't run a fourth three

1303
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 1: did But did you feel like did he separated like

1304
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: the other I mean, was he like you know, the

1305
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 1: Coopers the Parkers guys like that. You know that he

1306
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: wasn't a consistent separator, but he was so good at

1307
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: catching the ball, even when guys are draped all over him.

1308
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 1: When the ball's up in the air. I have the

1309
01:05:55,600 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 1: utmost confidence exactly exactly I mean, I I like to play.

1310
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 1: I just didn't see a guy that I was. You

1311
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: know when when I went in before the combine and

1312
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 1: watching him play, I didn't see a guy that played

1313
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 1: that fast. I did see quarterback issues. They did a

1314
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: ton of them, a ton of them. That that quarterback

1315
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 1: lace trick trick. It was awful. Let's just go I'll

1316
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: say that. And so there's times when you they talk

1317
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 1: about the other Kevin White the TCU game. He had

1318
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 1: a good game, But then you look at trick and

1319
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 1: I remember the game, the balls all over the place,

1320
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: White White got open. The other one point that they

1321
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 1: weren't even throwing the ball at the end of the game.

1322
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: They were running the ball against tc How did these

1323
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 1: two of Cooper and White compared to Evans, Watkins, Beckham.

1324
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: That's something I'm sure we'll be talking about the next

1325
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: few months. I feel bad for these guys because those

1326
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 1: three set the standard for what a rookie. Ro Sandri

1327
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 1: did a nice job too, coming in there the third round. Yeah,

1328
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 1: or don't have to be the LSU Homer right now.

1329
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: I love being LS homer or a rookie receiver. He

1330
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: had a great season, had a great season with four receivers.

1331
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: Rookie receivers over a thousand yards last year. Usually wide

1332
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 1: receivers is the toughest position transition the NFL. It usually

1333
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 1: takes the longest time. With last year, we got spoiled

1334
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 1: with those that rookie class. Yeah, and you had Brandon

1335
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: Cooks got hurt, got hurt, right or else he'd be

1336
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 1: in that mix all right here, Roger, where's the seven?

1337
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 1: I think? Yeah, NFL Draft, the Chicago Bears select Kevin White.

1338
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 1: Here we go. They're happy about it in Chicago that

1339
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 1: we've been right on with our picks as we've gone

1340
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: along here. Well, it's I think it's gonna be. It's

1341
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 1: to me. The Williams won through us. Yeah, I think

1342
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: that's the Williams went through us. But when you start

1343
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, these teams, I can get through you, Brian,

1344
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: I think the rest of us had littered. Oh I

1345
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: yah know you guys haven't did the Raiders though, you

1346
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: guys have no not Originally I'm saying, as we went

1347
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: along here, once the picks started coming off, I think

1348
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 1: you made it. You made a great point about Amari Cooper.

1349
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 1: You just couldn't rule it out there for for Oakland

1350
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 1: helping the quarterback. Yeah, I thought that all along right right,

1351
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 1: And Atlanta is on the clock. Now we're gonna see

1352
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: edge rusher here, maybe Bud, Bud and Vic those are

1353
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 1: just like those are pass rushers. You can't rule out

1354
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: the running back here. I like better as a pass rusher,

1355
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: Vic Beasley or Bud Dupree tast rusher from the right.

1356
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: It depends how they're used, because Beasley is I mean,

1357
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 1: he's explosive when he's in space. So if you're gonna

1358
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: use him in space, you know, let him run circles

1359
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 1: around blockers. He can do that. Um, So, depending on

1360
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: how they're used, I would lean Beasley there, I would too. Brian,

1361
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 1: our dear friend of the show, John Nelson, wants us

1362
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 1: to do the Draft show live Draft from London next year.

1363
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 1: What do you think what it's two o'clock in the

1364
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 1: morning over there. The folks over there to listen, God

1365
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: bless you. They impressed me. Were talking the planet. We

1366
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 1: were talking about them. Matter of fact. Dave's like, because

1367
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 1: all the like, all the all the London fans were

1368
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 1: all the Bridge fans were all up and they were

1369
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: they were firing questions. They're not just up, they're like

1370
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 1: you think that they're gms, Like they're so in tune

1371
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: and so passionate about the draft and hello to them all. Yeahs. Absolutely.

1372
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 1: What's the time difference right now? It's a sixth hour

1373
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: or maybe is it seven from the Central time zone.

1374
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:21,679
Speaker 1: I'm sure John Neilson will let us know be a Twitter.

1375
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 1: It's one or two o'clock in the morning, which I

1376
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 1: go to bed. Guys, the pixel the Cowboys on the

1377
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys don't go on the clock for another two or

1378
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 1: three hours. By the way, the first round last year

1379
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: was three hours and forty minutes. So and Cam Cam

1380
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 1: Cam in Sydney, Australia is telling us it's eleven am

1381
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 1: over there. So yeah, man, that's eight pm approaching eight o'clock.

1382
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 1: So we got Cowboys fans in Hong Kong as well,

1383
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: apparently Hong Kong, Sydney, London. I know there's a fan

1384
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 1: somewhere out there in Denmark, which is insane to me.

1385
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 1: Wait to go, guys, y'all Germany. We had a call

1386
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 1: once from Germany, we did and he it was um

1387
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: who did he want to know about? It was? It

1388
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 1: was Lankford, Jeremy Lamford, who's like not even a big name,

1389
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 1: just like a run of the mill running back. John says.

1390
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 1: It's one fifty five in the morning in London. God

1391
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 1: bless you. Kudos cool everybody out there for hanging out.

1392
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 1: Was again if you're tuning in for I know a

1393
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: lot of folks on our Twitter page the draft show.

1394
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 1: We do not have control of the war room cam,

1395
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: the Dallas cat when when they when they unveil the cam,

1396
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: Kent Garrison and a crew in there will get you

1397
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 1: on board with what's going on. Right now we're looking

1398
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 1: at it. There's still a gray cover over the top

1399
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 1: of it. Kind of surprising to be honest. I mean,

1400
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 1: you're not missing much other than Jerry, Stephen and Garrett

1401
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 1: kind of like some small talking and smiling at each other.

1402
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, it is surprising that we're into the meat

1403
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:51,759
Speaker 1: of this first round and they haven't taken this sheet

1404
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 1: off the screen yet. Yeah, so as soon as that happens,

1405
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 1: we will get to it. That's not something we're doing.

1406
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: It's not something to do with the feed. That's the dalla.

1407
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 1: We can see. It's a piece of paper sitting over

1408
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 1: the screen right exactly. But that's that's the whole thing.

1409
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 1: So all right, what the Falcons have done in free agency,

1410
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 1: They've signed Adrian Clayborne from Tampa Bay. O'Brien Schofield came

1411
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 1: with the new head coach of the Falcons, Dan Quinn

1412
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: from Seattle, Brooks Read from Houston, and of course Justin Durant,

1413
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 1: the linebacker from the Cowboys, got a three year, ten

1414
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 1: point eight million dollar deal. They've done on offense, they

1415
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 1: signed Leonard Hankerson and that's the only one of note

1416
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 1: couple of tight ends Jacob Tammy and Tony Milwyaukee. I

1417
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: think damn near every Cowboy free agent that left this

1418
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 1: past year went to a team that's on the twenty

1419
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 1: fifteen schedule. Yeah, not that it really matters. Feel out

1420
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 1: of hugging up before the it I mean not you know,

1421
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 1: it's just a tid, but it's not really doesn't mean anything,

1422
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 1: but it is interesting. They're all gonna wind up back

1423
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 1: here one way or another, you know, and and again

1424
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 1: we talk about the Falcons and you could go a

1425
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 1: couple of different ways here, but we the offensive line

1426
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 1: was but the pass rusher though, really, I mean we

1427
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 1: you know Vick Beasley. You're just your thoughts about Vick

1428
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 1: Beasley as well. And I know we've talked about bud Dyupree,

1429
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 1: but just your thoughts about Vic Beasley. Extremely productive at Clemson,

1430
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 1: a player that he is a little light in the pants.

1431
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 1: So he was. He was a running back when he

1432
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 1: first started, then he moved to tight end, then they

1433
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: moved him over to defense, where he was a pass rusher.

1434
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,560
Speaker 1: Thirty three sacks over his career, fifty two and a

1435
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 1: half tackles for loss. You do you do worry about

1436
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 1: the length a little bit, only thirty two and a

1437
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 1: half inch arms, But he blew up the combine. Yeah,

1438
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 1: I mean what he did with four five three forty

1439
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 1: thirty five bitch rap, which was surprised. Surprised well, and

1440
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 1: even even the two forty six his weight. I talked

1441
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 1: to a scout who visited Clemson in the fall, and

1442
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:45,759
Speaker 1: he told me he was a two twenty so two

1443
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: forty six. In February and you wondered, Okay, two forty six,

1444
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,640
Speaker 1: that's a great number. But Kenny sustained the speed, the

1445
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 1: explosiveness at that number, and the numbers say that he

1446
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: can forty one inch vertical ten ten broad jump six

1447
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 1: nine one three cone. So the numbers are standing and

1448
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 1: they match what you see on tape. Yeah, but I

1449
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 1: do worry about the point of attack strength. He can

1450
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 1: be washed out of the play at times in the

1451
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 1: run game by by blockers. So not a player that

1452
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 1: is not a power player. But again, he can run.

1453
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 1: He can run circles around blockers. He has that type

1454
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 1: of athleticism. And so with in dan Quinn's defense in Atlanta,

1455
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 1: I like to fit there. Okay, but tell me from

1456
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 1: a scouting standpoint what this says to you about both

1457
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 1: these players. Because we talked about the Beasley combined numbers

1458
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: forty one vertical ten ten broad jump, those other numbers,

1459
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 1: Alvin bud Dupree forty two vertical eleven six broad jump

1460
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 1: ran a four to five six at two hundred and

1461
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 1: sixty seven pounds as opposed to two forty six. I

1462
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 1: think bud dupre to me, is more of a left

1463
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 1: defensive end. If you want to play. They played the

1464
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 1: right side at Kentucky. Yeah, well, he played a lot

1465
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:52,600
Speaker 1: on the strong side. I mean he went back and

1466
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 1: he was really an outside linebacker and some of his

1467
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 1: best work was actually standing up rush. In the past weeks,

1468
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,839
Speaker 1: we're Beasley to me is a screamer off the edge,

1469
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 1: hand down. You talk about ice cream flavors, you know

1470
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 1: these passes. These are two good pass rushers, different flavors.

1471
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 1: They offer different things, So it depends on how you

1472
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 1: want to use them. And I think for what Atlanta

1473
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 1: wants to do, Beasley better fits what dan Quinn wants

1474
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 1: to do one. Yeah, exactly. You talk about dan Quinn

1475
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 1: in Seattle. You deal with all that edge pressure, hand

1476
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 1: down guys coming off the edge. Vic Beasley to me

1477
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 1: makes a lot more sense than say Bud dupre who

1478
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: I do like Bud Dupree just in that same area,

1479
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 1: though maybe a little bit better than Vic Beasley, because

1480
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 1: I thought he could play the left side. You know,

1481
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:41,679
Speaker 1: you're right. I saw Beasley get washed some of these games.

1482
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 1: It's a great example of how much this whole process

1483
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 1: changes from January to May. Because Bud was probably the

1484
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 1: first guy, one of the first guys at least who

1485
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 1: really kind of a lot of links to the Cowboys

1486
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 1: came out like maybe he falls as far he fits

1487
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 1: the need here, and now we're talking about him maybe

1488
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:00,640
Speaker 1: being a top ten pick, and certainly, you know it

1489
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:02,600
Speaker 1: would be a monumental upset if he's even in the

1490
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: Cowboys range. Here's the commissioner with the eighth pick in

1491
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 1: the twenty fifteenth NFL drafts. The Atlanta Falcons select Vic Beasley. There,

1492
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 1: Vic Beasley, and I agree, I think he was the

1493
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 1: perfect fit for them. Yeah, that's a that's a team

1494
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 1: though again you know they just did not they were

1495
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,799
Speaker 1: where they were worse than the league last year in sacks.

1496
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 1: So you know, Vic Beasley, the weight of Georgia is

1497
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 1: now on his back. It's funny. Here's a Clemson man,

1498
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 1: hopefully come to say the Atlanta Falcons playing about a

1499
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 1: two and a half hour drive, and that's what that

1500
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 1: would be less. But again, you're talking about a team

1501
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: that really really struggled to rush the passer last year.

1502
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 1: Vick Beasley will give him all right. So the New

1503
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: York Football Giants are on the clock the number nine

1504
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 1: pick in the first round. So last night I was

1505
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 1: throwing some darts to see what we see, what will

1506
01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 1: come up with these picks? You were chumming some water. Yeah,

1507
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 1: six right, so far, I'll take that. Not bad. Yeah,

1508
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 1: you know, Leonard Williams did not see that coming. Do

1509
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 1: not see that coming? But what he did. I am

1510
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 1: happy with six for eight so far. Well and the

1511
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 1: miss two yeah exactly. Well, that's I'll tell you what though.

1512
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 1: The Giants, I think they have to feel a little

1513
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 1: disappointed that. Sure if this is not on the board

1514
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:22,719
Speaker 1: right there, you know, it's a team that can could

1515
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 1: surely you have who do you have the Giants taken?

1516
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 1: I had them taken Amari Cooper, so obviously that will

1517
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 1: I will not be seven for nine. But but a

1518
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 1: lot of people had Shurff going to the Giants, right

1519
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 1: and so we talked about this earlier with Coughlin. Yeah,

1520
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 1: he said it himself, being a little upset that Shriff's

1521
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 1: off the board here. So I think we still go

1522
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 1: offensive line here at nine. I don't know if they

1523
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:47,640
Speaker 1: would go offensive line because I don't see you know,

1524
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 1: could they go Flower? I mean, who's your Okay, Collins

1525
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 1: might have been their pick. Yeah, that's saying you've got pew.

1526
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 1: I mean you just take want to kick him in

1527
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:57,639
Speaker 1: the guard though, right, I mean they need they need

1528
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 1: tackle help is really what's that's yeah, is trying. They're

1529
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 1: They're a lot like the Washington Redskins last year when

1530
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 1: you watched him play. Remember what a train wreck that was.

1531
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 1: There's I think there's a very real correlation between what

1532
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 1: the Giants are right now and what the Cowboys were

1533
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:15,680
Speaker 1: three or four years ago. I mean, you know you

1534
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 1: can win with your quarterback. Uh, it's a matter of

1535
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 1: him not having a whole lot around him. So I

1536
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 1: mean you go get him Beckham a New York I

1537
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 1: think if it is offensive line, who would it be here, Pete.

1538
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 1: I tell you what, I would not be surprised they

1539
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 1: take flowers. Yeah, I mean, hey, and you know you

1540
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 1: watch him play. He is a maller brawler, and that's

1541
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 1: how the Giants play. They play with that maller brawler

1542
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: style of offense. Tom Coughlin wants to not pretty, but

1543
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 1: you play him. I think they can play left tackle though.

1544
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 1: I mean to me, I'm just I'm just kind of

1545
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 1: reading some notes here. Likely to move Richburk back to

1546
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:58,600
Speaker 1: Richberk back to center, look to add a guard, d

1547
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 1: go back, go over to the side. Then they want

1548
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 1: to move a pew back to guard. So maybe maybe

1549
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 1: you'll play the right tackle. Yeah, so they may. They

1550
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 1: could treat it like the Cowboys did with Tyren Smith,

1551
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:12,679
Speaker 1: had the rookie played the right side, with the idea

1552
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 1: that he'd moved to the left side once he learned

1553
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 1: the NFL. With Flowers, could have he used another year

1554
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 1: at Miami. Yes, he could have used some more seasoning.

1555
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 1: But you have a player that you have a lot

1556
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 1: to work with. You do see some stiffness, you do

1557
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 1: do see some flaws, but he is a tough sob.

1558
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 1: I mean he is a finisher. I mean once he

1559
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:33,799
Speaker 1: gets his hands on you and he plays on his feet.

1560
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 1: But I think guy, and you know the reps. What

1561
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 1: was the reps on him? Was he was? He a

1562
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 1: thirty rep guy? Really surprising about I thought of talking

1563
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 1: about Flowers, Flowers Flow Flowers was thirty seven. See that's

1564
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. This is a this is not really related.

1565
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 1: But with the number of dudes that you is about

1566
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 1: to put in the league this year, you think they

1567
01:18:55,560 --> 01:19:00,599
Speaker 1: they were bad team six and seven bad a good

1568
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 1: team where where we're all these just blew me away.

1569
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 1: I looked this up earlier. Assuming Flowers is the pick

1570
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 1: here or in the next few picks, it'll be the

1571
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 1: first time a Miami Hurricane is drafted top twenty since

1572
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 1: two thousand and five. For a marquee program like that.

1573
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you go a decade without there's still top

1574
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 1: three a number of players in the NFL, and to say,

1575
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 1: I mean if they haven't run the run they had

1576
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 1: in the nine eighties, nineties and then early two thousands. Yeah,

1577
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 1: that Flowers, by the way, he was a starter his

1578
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 1: last two years at left tackle. He started twelve games

1579
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 1: at right tackle his first year. Yeah. You speaking of

1580
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 1: free agents playing the Cowboys, Dwayne Harris now in New

1581
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 1: York Giants, it's just so much, there's so much to

1582
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 1: do with this offensive line and it gets suriff going off.

1583
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 1: I think that hurt the Giant. I'm willing to bet

1584
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 1: that they've got They've got an offensive lineman, but I

1585
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 1: don't have a guard. I don't have somebody. But if

1586
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 1: you can move Pew to guard, does that help? I mean, well,

1587
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 1: pu helps a guard. Now I need a tackle. Well

1588
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 1: that's for this, it's Flowers. But I guess I'm saying

1589
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 1: is there's not another offensive tackle. I mean, that's and

1590
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 1: here we go. It looks like the Commissioner head into

1591
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 1: the Flowers, maybe Pete. I mean, it's gonna be an

1592
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,759
Speaker 1: offensive tackle. If I had to guess, I think good flowers,

1593
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 1: better feet. NFL draft the New York Giants select Eric

1594
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 1: Flowers Miami. You don't even need to be watching the Commissioner.

1595
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 1: You can just hear it right here. Big Brian brought

1596
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: it down. Eric Flowers out of Miami is a New

1597
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 1: York Giant. I mean, and you know I'm not I

1598
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:37,680
Speaker 1: don't watch anywhere near as much tape as you do,

1599
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 1: so I'm not trying. I'm not saying this guy's can't miss.

1600
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 1: But if he does what you think he's gonna do,

1601
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you took him in the top ten, so

1602
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:45,760
Speaker 1: you think he's a Day one starter who's gonna be

1603
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 1: good if he does that. I mean, we've talked about

1604
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 1: this in the office before just shooting the breeze. I

1605
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 1: think the Giants are like, they're looking like they're taking

1606
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,719
Speaker 1: a step up in my opinion. I mean, you always

1607
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 1: I don't think you count the Giants out if you,

1608
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:00,560
Speaker 1: I mean, what are they I mean, they got the

1609
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 1: quarterback they had. They Oh yeah, we think they have

1610
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 1: a quarterback. We know Eli Manning can win. I know

1611
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 1: a lot of Cowboys fans don't want to hear it.

1612
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 1: He can. Yeah, if you fix your offensive line, give

1613
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 1: him some time to throw. You got a decent running back,

1614
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 1: you got the rookie of the year, and Victor Cruz

1615
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 1: out wide. Uh you know I yeah, like you said,

1616
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm not counting the Giants out. I don't think you

1617
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 1: can afford to do that. My favorite, uh tidbit with

1618
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 1: with Eric Flowers, the only player in this draft who

1619
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 1: didn't hire an agent, decided you know what these uh,

1620
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 1: these picks are already slotted. You know, I don't need

1621
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 1: an agent right now. I have a great point negotiating

1622
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 1: going on. Negotiation process is non existent. I'll hire a

1623
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 1: lawyer to help with the contract stuff, but I don't

1624
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:43,759
Speaker 1: need to be giving ten percent of my contract. Andre

1625
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 1: Johnson did the same thing. Another guy out. Can I

1626
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:49,679
Speaker 1: ask a question here, and who would you liked better?

1627
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 1: Flowers or Humphrey from Florida? See that's what or the

1628
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 1: Giants are in general? Of the two, Well, you like

1629
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 1: Pete the best? Pete would be your guy. All right.

1630
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: So there are some people who've had Pete listed as

1631
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 1: they're like one of their top five players in the draft. Okay,

1632
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 1: but saying okay, now, if you're Saint Louis and I'm

1633
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:11,639
Speaker 1: going with them now on the clock, this is a team.

1634
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 1: When you talk about needs tackle, center, guard, you know,

1635
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:21,639
Speaker 1: we receiver, defensive tackle. I mean again, there's a team

1636
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:24,760
Speaker 1: that we saw live last year that it was kind

1637
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 1: of a just a patchwork group of offensive linemen. Is

1638
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:31,759
Speaker 1: this when we start seeing a little bit of the run? Uh? Maybe?

1639
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,639
Speaker 1: You know, I hope not for the cowboys sake, because

1640
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 1: I want those guys sitting there for teams to want

1641
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 1: to come get. Yeah, it is all right, this is

1642
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 1: this too early for DJ for Humphreys from from from Florida. No,

1643
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 1: because you would take Pete, well I would, yes, But

1644
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna see these offensive linemen go quickly because in

1645
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 1: a draft like this where we don't have those no

1646
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 1: brain er elite guys at the top, there's gonna be

1647
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 1: a lot of similar players. You know, the guy you

1648
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:57,800
Speaker 1: get at ten is gonna be very similar to the

1649
01:22:57,840 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 1: guy you get at twenty five. And and and so if

1650
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 1: if Humphries goes here, or if he goes into twenties,

1651
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 1: it's not really big of a jump talent wise, so

1652
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 1: would not shock me at off. We see humph humphries

1653
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 1: this early. We got a fan here who is from Hungary.

1654
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 1: Oh wow, three am local time. Thank you so much.

1655
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 1: If you're well, if you're listening to us from a

1656
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 1: cool place, tweet at me and I'll shout you out

1657
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 1: and like I'm talking not uh you know Dallas somewhere,

1658
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 1: you know, give me, give me something impressive. Yeah, because

1659
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 1: that's pretty cool. If you're watching the draft show from Hungary. Yeah,

1660
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 1: so I got real quick bill to answer twenty question. Uh,

1661
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 1: cowboy five man. He's asked any feeling that the Rams

1662
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 1: would trade out of this position. That's what I was

1663
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:39,639
Speaker 1: gonna say. We haven't seen a draft or we haven't

1664
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 1: seen a trade yet. It's it's time we start talking

1665
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 1: about trades and what's gonna happen here. Tess a big

1666
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 1: mover now. Absolutely, he's done in the past and he'll

1667
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 1: do it again if if the right deal comes around.

1668
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 1: Who could Yeah? Who behind him with someone looking for

1669
01:23:56,720 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley? Yeah, Miami who Oh, it's not too early

1670
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 1: for Todd Gurley and Parker still out there. We'll see

1671
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 1: if you worried about if you worried about can they

1672
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 1: just leave Todd Gurley alone? See if Miami would be

1673
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 1: the one team that would probably take Gurley at fourteen. Okay,

1674
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 1: picks already end, So we'll see what that. But yeah,

1675
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 1: maybe we're not gonna get any trades. At some point.

1676
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 1: We'll have a trade at some point. The first let's

1677
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 1: ask you this though, could and I'm looking at their

1678
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 1: team needs could they take a runner? I mean Saint Louis.

1679
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 1: We talked about Mason you think he was not bad

1680
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 1: to quote he was a second round pick. Second? But

1681
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 1: how about how about a Bell Cow guy? I mean,

1682
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:42,599
Speaker 1: is that would that be pom mean you talk about

1683
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:46,639
Speaker 1: Mason Reynolds Cunningham where it was a guy that was mentioned.

1684
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:48,640
Speaker 1: I'd be interested to hear with Kurt Wonders saying right now,

1685
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 1: I bet he knows what's going on, guy. But yeah,

1686
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 1: you know this is a team though, Could could this

1687
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 1: be the could this be the We don't you know,

1688
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 1: we're looking at a position like the offensive line, but

1689
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:04,639
Speaker 1: they're really not very good at running back or they're

1690
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 1: not good at another I mean, there's a scrap to

1691
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 1: so many wide receivers in the past. That's what I'm saying.

1692
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 1: There's a certain point I think for every team where

1693
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 1: you feel like a talent like Todd Gurley is worth it.

1694
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who else is on your roster, it

1695
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:19,680
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what your depth chart looks like. There is

1696
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:22,639
Speaker 1: a point for every single team where you know what,

1697
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley looks awfully tempting right here in front of

1698
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 1: the Rams. Would Todd Curley be the best player on

1699
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 1: your board right now? One? Oh yeah, absolutely so you

1700
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 1: would have no problem taking Todd Gurley right now. Well,

1701
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 1: but if you're the Rams, you look at what they've

1702
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 1: invested in the in the position before with Trey Mason

1703
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 1: last year. But it's Tray Mason anything. I mean, he

1704
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 1: got better, he got better down the stretch. I mean

1705
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 1: he's not He's hell. Here's the other thing is, since

1706
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 1: they have Trey Mason, they have some other backs. If

1707
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 1: Girley's not ready at the start of the season, a

1708
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:53,600
Speaker 1: little good point. And that's the other thing I'm not

1709
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 1: I'm not betting against him. I'm not betting against him

1710
01:25:57,520 --> 01:25:59,759
Speaker 1: at all. I think I think he's gonna be ready. Remember,

1711
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 1: that once upon a time they had Stephen Jackson in

1712
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:04,679
Speaker 1: Saint Louis for years and years of bell coal back.

1713
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Todd Gurley, he he Julius Jones. Yeah, he

1714
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:17,799
Speaker 1: gurly changes your offense. I mean he brings a different identity.

1715
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 1: He makes defensive coordinators really really game plan for what

1716
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,679
Speaker 1: you're going to do. Let's Steed is an SEC guy

1717
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 1: by the way, too went to school at all, that's

1718
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 1: very and he took and he took, he took Robinson

1719
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 1: last year. The tackle, by the way, is still penciled

1720
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:35,720
Speaker 1: in as the left tackle there. Yeah, and checked a

1721
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 1: guard down the road. Or let's see it, glaring needed

1722
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 1: right tackle, need a starter overall depth at position, had

1723
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 1: visited all the top tackles. Yeah, so Barndale Washington listed

1724
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 1: as their right tackle. Marksdale is at starting tackle last year.

1725
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 1: He has not been resigned. I say they're somewhere Nick

1726
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 1: Foles is, he's wondering, am I gonna get a blocker here?

1727
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 1: Am I gonna? Am I gonna get a runner here?

1728
01:26:57,240 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 1: If he has any consultation with Sam Bradford, he will say,

1729
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:03,879
Speaker 1: give me an offensive life. I just wouldn't be surprised

1730
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 1: if if less Sneed and Jeff Fisher just go off

1731
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 1: the reservation here, I really, I mean I did what

1732
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 1: constitute's going off the reservation. We don't have him taking

1733
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 1: a runner, Yeah, I mean we don't have him. But

1734
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 1: let's need. An SEC guy will say this. It'd be

1735
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 1: the first while in the draft that happens. But you

1736
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 1: like the player, no question, Ready just didn't predict us fit.

1737
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:28,639
Speaker 1: We're the tenth pick in the twenty fifteen NFL Draft,

1738
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:35,639
Speaker 1: the Saint Louis Ram select Todd Gurley, running back Georgia.

1739
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 1: To look at that smile, less Sneed is an SEC guy,

1740
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 1: and you said he was one of your best players

1741
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 1: on the board. And Less Sneed's Auburn team is the face.

1742
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 1: I mean they hurt the defense that knocked him out. Yeah,

1743
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:51,639
Speaker 1: the reason he won't be on the field to start

1744
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 1: the season. Probably. We had a lot of conversation about

1745
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and running backs and draft. How much did

1746
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 1: you have Todd Gurley over the Melvin Gordon's Steven It

1747
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 1: was it was tier Tierra alone by himself. Right, I'm

1748
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 1: gonna go. I'm gonna say Leonard Williams, Dante Feller, Todd

1749
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:10,599
Speaker 1: Gurley my top three players on my on my card

1750
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:13,720
Speaker 1: to argue, yeah, that was my second guessing from a

1751
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 1: Cowboys perspective, there's no way that the Cowboys been trade

1752
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 1: from twenty seven to ten. But can we just have

1753
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:21,720
Speaker 1: a moment and think about what could have been with

1754
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley? It would have been fun. Let it go,

1755
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 1: It would have been fun and that song let it Go.

1756
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:29,639
Speaker 1: But say, that's what I'm saying though to me, when

1757
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 1: you start thinking about less Snee, the wild the wild card,

1758
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:35,600
Speaker 1: it's just who is the best player? And yeah, it

1759
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 1: goes back to what I was saying about. At some

1760
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 1: point for every team, Todd Gurley's worth it, and you

1761
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 1: know he's He's just he's the best talent. It doesn't

1762
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 1: matter who else is on your roster. At some point

1763
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 1: you feel comfortable making that pick it. Man, that's a

1764
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 1: pretty that's in my backfield. Yeah, the NFC West and

1765
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 1: hey against better you better have the bat against Yeah,

1766
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 1: you better have a bat with Minnesota on the clock now,

1767
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 1: So this is the highest running back has gone since

1768
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 1: Trent Richardson? Is that right? Overall? So? Well, that beat

1769
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 1: that puts let's see who goes on the clock and

1770
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 1: Todd Gurleys Nope, but we didn't think Trent Richardson was

1771
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 1: in Trent Richardson's right, Trey Wayne's Yeah, this one, to

1772
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 1: me is a nopera, never going with a cornerback. He's

1773
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 1: gonna let me ask you this. That's kind of about

1774
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 1: in the one Bridgewater is sitting there lobbying for DeVante.

1775
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 1: This is this is where where I think we well, yeah, absolutely,

1776
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:35,439
Speaker 1: but I think it's what about Dupre though? What about

1777
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:41,720
Speaker 1: him with Anthony Barr? Yeah, yeah, Hey, that's great for me.

1778
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 1: Keep keep the cornerbacks on the board. I don't want

1779
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 1: people taking cornerbacks because I want the Cowboys to take

1780
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 1: a defensive end, corner, wide receiver, top three needs for

1781
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 1: the Vikings. There you go. I mean how much clout

1782
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 1: does Teddy Bridgewater have Do you think he could pull

1783
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:57,800
Speaker 1: that off? Like Tony Romo could walk in there and

1784
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,719
Speaker 1: be like pray in the day. If they don't trade

1785
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 1: that runner, he's praying right now, that's done, right, We're

1786
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:07,639
Speaker 1: not If you're the Vikings, He's still gonna make calls.

1787
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:10,559
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley just went off the board. The Vikings are

1788
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 1: the one making calls. I think it's the other teams.

1789
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:14,960
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what the Rams just took Gurley off

1790
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:16,679
Speaker 1: the board in front of him. Though, if the Vikings

1791
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 1: were interested in saying we'll move, that's a great point.

1792
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 1: Maybe there, maybe they would not take Melvin Gordon, not

1793
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:27,000
Speaker 1: at a maybe you trade back, trade back. I think

1794
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 1: that you got to consider Bud Dupree here. I mean

1795
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 1: or Waynes or Waynes. I've had Waynes all along. But

1796
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 1: again the defense again, zimmer pressure, give me those guys.

1797
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 1: And they have signed Michael Wallace and free agency and

1798
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 1: Terence Newman. He's about forty five years old, but that's

1799
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:49,559
Speaker 1: Zach Stacy's still with the Rams too. He's not bad player, yeah,

1800
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 1: he is still let He's not a cowboy, I know.

1801
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:56,640
Speaker 1: By the way, Still we're still showing us because they

1802
01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 1: all sec running. They have not uncovered the war rooms,

1803
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 1: so if you're tuning in for that, it's still all

1804
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 1: of our mugs on the show right now, trying to

1805
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 1: get you through this. But looking at the war room,

1806
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 1: can they still have the tarp down on it? And

1807
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:13,680
Speaker 1: as soon as it uslip paper bran, that's not a tarpon,

1808
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 1: as he gets as soon as he gets lifted, then

1809
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 1: we will go directly in the real notebook paper over

1810
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:21,280
Speaker 1: it real quick, and I'll leave it alone. I don't

1811
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 1: want to dominate it. But since I said what I

1812
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:26,680
Speaker 1: said about people listening in weird places, Yeah, shouts out

1813
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:33,720
Speaker 1: to the Netherlands, Sweden, Madrid leads, London, Australia. We got

1814
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 1: a Bangkok Thailand, Bangkok Thailand and everybody in the US.

1815
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:40,879
Speaker 1: I've gotten Honolulu, I've gotten Wisconsin, I've gotten San Diego.

1816
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 1: You guys are awesome. Way to go all along though,

1817
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:46,600
Speaker 1: sorry to interrupt you, Bill, let's pick his in. But

1818
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:49,840
Speaker 1: Wayne's all along though. We've felt like it's going to

1819
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 1: be a corner here. I mean that's been I'd say

1820
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:54,760
Speaker 1: the two that are I mean you hear Waynes to

1821
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 1: Minnesota and you hear Danny Shelton to Cleveland, which is

1822
01:31:57,160 --> 01:31:59,200
Speaker 1: back to back right here, and I'd feel like those

1823
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:01,760
Speaker 1: picks have very every time you look at their depth

1824
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:04,160
Speaker 1: chart and Terrence Newman is penciled in it, Yeah, every

1825
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:06,720
Speaker 1: every time you look at every time you've looked at

1826
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:09,640
Speaker 1: a depth chart that somebody at CBS has done. You know,

1827
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 1: we didn't do any of the big depth chart excuse me,

1828
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 1: uh mock drafts, but every time it was Waynes, everybody

1829
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:19,040
Speaker 1: had Waynes going at this spot, right, and the Vikings

1830
01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 1: I've shown a lot of interest in Waynes. They worked

1831
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:22,800
Speaker 1: him out there at his pro day. I mean they

1832
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 1: they've really done a lot of work on here. Just

1833
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 1: to give you a little bit of ideal, let me

1834
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:28,960
Speaker 1: look at some of the other corners. Jalen Collins was

1835
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:32,559
Speaker 1: a guy that they visited. Uh, let's see who else.

1836
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 1: Waynes was a guy they visited coming up the board. Uh,

1837
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters was a potential first round guy that they

1838
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:44,839
Speaker 1: visited as well. It's something else to consider playing in Minnesota.

1839
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 1: You have to be able to play in cold weather. Okay,

1840
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 1: and especially now, well one more years, one more year.

1841
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:51,800
Speaker 1: But did you go to Green Bay? You go to

1842
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:55,680
Speaker 1: Chicago exactly that division. But he understands it's here. He

1843
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:57,680
Speaker 1: grew up in Wisconsin. That's a good point. Went to

1844
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:00,040
Speaker 1: Michigan State. He's a big ten player. He knows it

1845
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:01,840
Speaker 1: was like the playing that the mistake we made in

1846
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 1: Green Bay with Terrell Buckley a long time ago in

1847
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:08,280
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two, with Troy Vincent on the board, we

1848
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 1: took a player that wasn't used to playing in cold

1849
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:13,720
Speaker 1: weather at Florida State. Yeah, but don't don't take any

1850
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 1: kids out of the EU if you're in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Yeah,

1851
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:19,720
Speaker 1: but this this seems like to me. Initially we said

1852
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:22,439
Speaker 1: it was it was waynes I mean, yeah, that's really

1853
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 1: been the makes sense. It's it's uh talking about one

1854
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:28,639
Speaker 1: of the best players available at that point, all things

1855
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:32,559
Speaker 1: point today. Describe the player. You're tall, lanky, a little

1856
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:35,800
Speaker 1: a little leaner than you want, but he uses his length. Well,

1857
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 1: he's tough, he'll hit you at the line of scrimmage.

1858
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:42,760
Speaker 1: He loves the jam um and he's he's strong too. Yeah,

1859
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 1: he's fast. He knows he's fast too because he'll leave

1860
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 1: a little bit of a cushion because he knows he

1861
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:49,680
Speaker 1: can make it up. Or you see him at the

1862
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:52,640
Speaker 1: combine at forty, well you could. He was fly. We

1863
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 1: watched it in the in the in the in the

1864
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:57,000
Speaker 1: in the our office there and the commissioners going to

1865
01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:00,560
Speaker 1: the podium. Now, but yeah, that easy. That was the

1866
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:05,480
Speaker 1: eleventh pick in the twenty fifteen NFL drafts, the Minnesota

1867
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 1: Vikings select Trey Wayne. Yeah, there we go back on track. Yeah,

1868
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:15,559
Speaker 1: Trey Wayne's out of Michigan State, six foot one hundred

1869
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 1: eighty six pounder, is a Minnesota Viking, the team with

1870
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:20,760
Speaker 1: Xavier Rhodes their other Quium Shocked that we have not

1871
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 1: seen a trade yet. Shocked Cleveland is up Cleveland with

1872
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:28,679
Speaker 1: two picks here, twelve and nineteen coming up. Hey, Brian,

1873
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:31,040
Speaker 1: you've been there before, and you think the Miami Dolphins

1874
01:34:31,080 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 1: are just pissed off right now? I would have thrown

1875
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:35,840
Speaker 1: my pin by now. Yeah, yeah, I think so. I

1876
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:38,560
Speaker 1: would have thrown my pin. Yeah, and I think that

1877
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 1: to me though, there's still some outstanding players on the board. Oh,

1878
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 1: of course you got it, But but you're in the

1879
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:47,560
Speaker 1: middle of the board. You're a little bit at the

1880
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:50,760
Speaker 1: guy that you really were probably set on just got

1881
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:53,439
Speaker 1: taken out from under you, right, So yeah, I think

1882
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 1: you have to be a little bit of a little

1883
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 1: upset by that. But you know, hey, you know, you

1884
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 1: just take the next guy there and go and go

1885
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:04,920
Speaker 1: that route. For those who are unable to watch on

1886
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:08,080
Speaker 1: television as they listen on line, let me recap what's

1887
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 1: happened so far as we are through eleven picks. Tampa

1888
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:14,799
Speaker 1: Bay took Jamis Winston quarterback Florida State, Tennessee, Marcus Mariota

1889
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 1: quarterback Oregon Jacksonville at number three, took Dante Fowler number four.

1890
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 1: Oakland took him Ari Cooper, the wide receiver from Alabama.

1891
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:27,960
Speaker 1: Brandon Shurf, tackle or guard from Iowa, went to Washington. Five.

1892
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:31,880
Speaker 1: Leonard Williams number six to the Jets, the defensive tackle

1893
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:35,679
Speaker 1: out of USC He can play anywhere along the defensive line.

1894
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 1: Kevin White, wide receiver, West Virginia to Chicago at seven,

1895
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 1: Atlanta at eight, pick Vic Beasley from Clemson Giants at nine,

1896
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:47,680
Speaker 1: Eric Flowers the tackle from Miami. Tide Gurley running back

1897
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 1: Georgia to Saint Louis and Minnesota. Trey Waynes out of

1898
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 1: Michigan State to cornerback. Now it's Cleveland. Great point though

1899
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 1: about Waynes and being a Midwest kid and bring in

1900
01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 1: those conditions and knowing how to play outdoors. I think

1901
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:02,759
Speaker 1: that really is a great point about speaking of Midwest.

1902
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:07,200
Speaker 1: Browns are up, Cleveland. You're an Ohio guy, this is

1903
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 1: your this is your team. And disappointment the last corn

1904
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:13,760
Speaker 1: Ye fortunately a couple of years. Well I'm just talking

1905
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 1: about the last year's draft. Not really fruitful like when

1906
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 1: you have two twenty eight years I've been on this earth. Yeah, Okay,

1907
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:24,599
Speaker 1: and we know they need defense. Dy Dave was talking

1908
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:26,600
Speaker 1: about Danny Shelton here. I mean there's two Would you

1909
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 1: see Danny Shelton at the Senior Bowl, remember, Oh yeah,

1910
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:31,000
Speaker 1: he was one of the stars of the Senior Bowl.

1911
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 1: I mean, he was one of the big names going

1912
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:35,639
Speaker 1: in there. It's just it's funny because I mean there's

1913
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:37,680
Speaker 1: been there's two lines of logic, and it's either that

1914
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:40,760
Speaker 1: Cleveland does something crazy to go get Marcus Mariota, which

1915
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 1: they have not done, or they take Danny Shelton at twelve.

1916
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:45,920
Speaker 1: I mean, those are the two. If you're the Browns,

1917
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 1: you're sitting here at Vante Parker still on the board,

1918
01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:50,160
Speaker 1: you have a chance to get a potential. Don't have Fever,

1919
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 1: don't have Josh Gordon, Dwayne Bows not enough for me

1920
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:56,680
Speaker 1: to pass on a receiver. But Danny Shelton, he's that

1921
01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 1: two gapping nose tackle, perfect fit for Mike Petton's defense. Yeah,

1922
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:01,800
Speaker 1: I can't see him pass. You get a guy like

1923
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:04,320
Speaker 1: that like to me, like kre and the Vince Wilfork.

1924
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:07,360
Speaker 1: This guy controls the middle exactly. I mean he you

1925
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:09,680
Speaker 1: watch him, and that's down the line. He's not this

1926
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:13,639
Speaker 1: big slug. He plays sideline to sidelines. He could blow

1927
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:15,360
Speaker 1: up the field. And this is I mean, this is

1928
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:17,720
Speaker 1: a Rex Ryan disciple. I have a hard time to leave.

1929
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 1: And they're not going to take Shelton. Yeah, I think Shelton.

1930
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:22,960
Speaker 1: I would not I would not say. I don't think

1931
01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 1: the fact that they got to pick seven picks later. Yeah,

1932
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:28,080
Speaker 1: I mean you could. You could have a little You

1933
01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:30,599
Speaker 1: could get your boy jail and strong. You could get good,

1934
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 1: you know, I mean you could get a weapon. But

1935
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:35,240
Speaker 1: you gotta do something in the middle of this defense though, yeah,

1936
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:38,320
Speaker 1: you know. And the worst run defense in the league

1937
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen. Correct, Oh, yeah, it was bad. It

1938
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 1: was bad. Levion Bell running all over that front seven,

1939
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 1: no brainer in that division two. Yeah, oh, you gotta play.

1940
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 1: I mean you gotta play Bell, you gotta play Hill

1941
01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:52,719
Speaker 1: and been Bernard, you gotta play playing in bad weather.

1942
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:54,680
Speaker 1: But you can't rule up Bud Dupre as well. I

1943
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 1: think that's another name they've looked at. They need a

1944
01:37:57,000 --> 01:38:00,519
Speaker 1: pass rusher. Mingo hasn't exactly been that pass rush they've

1945
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:03,880
Speaker 1: been looking for. So those three names DeVante Parker, Budd Depre,

1946
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:06,840
Speaker 1: Danny Shelton. But again we keep going back to Danny Shelton.

1947
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:11,040
Speaker 1: That nose tackle. Um, we talk about some nose tackles

1948
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 1: that have been taken early in the past, guys like

1949
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:17,840
Speaker 1: dj Raji, Vince will Folk. I think, you know, Shelton's

1950
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:20,600
Speaker 1: more along the lines of more athletic. I think for

1951
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:23,400
Speaker 1: a big man with the measurables, Bill, do you the

1952
01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:25,360
Speaker 1: forty time throw it out? I don't care. I don't

1953
01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 1: care what the forty times I've seen him make plays

1954
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:30,639
Speaker 1: outside outside the hashes. But I know he can push

1955
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:33,240
Speaker 1: the pocket. I know he can hold up. He was

1956
01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:35,760
Speaker 1: a three down player for the Huskies. He played, he

1957
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:38,280
Speaker 1: never came off the field. No, you're right about that.

1958
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:41,120
Speaker 1: They were the last team in the rush defense in

1959
01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:44,920
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. From a scouting standpoint, I've heard some people,

1960
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:47,759
Speaker 1: I think Pat Kerwin and talks about the explosion number,

1961
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:51,000
Speaker 1: which is you combine the bench reps with the vertical

1962
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:54,240
Speaker 1: with the broad and if you have an over a

1963
01:38:54,479 --> 01:38:59,160
Speaker 1: seventy total of those those numbers there, then you typically

1964
01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:02,320
Speaker 1: win at the line a scrimmage. That's way Kerwin puts it. Anyway,

1965
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:05,160
Speaker 1: thirty four bench reps plus a thirty and a half

1966
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:08,720
Speaker 1: vertical plus a seven eleven broad up equals seventy one

1967
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 1: and so he wins at the line of scrimmage. Danny Shelton. Yeah,

1968
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:14,640
Speaker 1: it just makes too much sense for a team that

1969
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:20,599
Speaker 1: needs Again they talk about talk about outside linebacker, rushers,

1970
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:24,720
Speaker 1: interior defensive line, offensive line, as well as the three

1971
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:27,879
Speaker 1: needs for the Browns. I dogged on the U earlier.

1972
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:31,479
Speaker 1: Washington got studs all over your defense. Where's the where

1973
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 1: the results? I mean, you got Shelton Pete watching offensive

1974
01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:37,040
Speaker 1: they kick Peters off the team for I guess that's yeah.

1975
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:38,960
Speaker 1: Do you watch the offensive tape and then play? I

1976
01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 1: don't believe I did. That's why nobody and that's why Jake,

1977
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:45,760
Speaker 1: you know, play if it's funny though. In the Pac

1978
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 1: twelve though, really nobody plays defense. I'm sorry if I'm

1979
01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:51,720
Speaker 1: throwing somebody out in just always a lot of us. Yeah,

1980
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:54,280
Speaker 1: but it seemed like to me that that a lot

1981
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:58,200
Speaker 1: of times those spread offenses that can neutralize talent on

1982
01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 1: a defense. Yeah. Absolutely, yeah. I again, I just don't

1983
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:05,680
Speaker 1: feel like that that this any any other pick than

1984
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:09,240
Speaker 1: than Shelton. I just don't see. I mean, it could

1985
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 1: be the pre you know, an outside linebacker that that

1986
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:15,320
Speaker 1: is a rush I mean, and that's I feel that's

1987
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:17,519
Speaker 1: why he's been there and like maybe they think the

1988
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:20,000
Speaker 1: prix is gonna be there at nineteen. He put the

1989
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:22,640
Speaker 1: way things slide in the board. Who has This is

1990
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 1: sort of like the where versus Marcus Spears debate from

1991
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:29,800
Speaker 1: two thousand and five, which which player has a better

1992
01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:32,280
Speaker 1: chance of being there? In that case, it was where

1993
01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:36,200
Speaker 1: win at eleven Spears at twenty. There was some person

1994
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:38,800
Speaker 1: in the room who fought Spears should be the pick

1995
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:42,280
Speaker 1: at eleven, and later he's sitting right now, remember who

1996
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:47,080
Speaker 1: that person? Yeah, Bill Parcels picks there, guys, there's a

1997
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 1: team down in my hometown that can pick. In the

1998
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:56,840
Speaker 1: two thousand NFL Draft, the Cleveland Brown select Danny Shelton. Yeah,

1999
01:40:56,880 --> 01:40:59,240
Speaker 1: there you go. I just it just made too much sense.

2000
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:01,559
Speaker 1: Yeah it did. I'll tell you what, I don't think

2001
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:03,559
Speaker 1: I've ever had a better start in my mock draft.

2002
01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:06,040
Speaker 1: You're so proud about the mock draft. I am, and

2003
01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:08,320
Speaker 1: I don't care. I really don't care. Eight of twelve.

2004
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:10,760
Speaker 1: I'll take Forbes Magazine said they need to follow you

2005
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:13,799
Speaker 1: on Twitter. Right, this is how he makes oh, Forbes

2006
01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:18,560
Speaker 1: Magazine twenty three best Twitter followers. During the inter this

2007
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:22,080
Speaker 1: is how. This is how the man makes his money

2008
01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 1: to Oh he's so proud, gonay he goes, Oh my

2009
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:30,240
Speaker 1: my life, get in now. And Forbes magazine said, I'm

2010
01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 1: I'm quitting now, I'm done. This is my last draft.

2011
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:34,559
Speaker 1: There's another one on top. There's another list you really

2012
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:37,160
Speaker 1: want to be on from Forbes though exactly, I always

2013
01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 1: thought I wanted j j. Yeah. If I put ten

2014
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:42,679
Speaker 1: months into putting this big thing together, I'd be pretty

2015
01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:44,559
Speaker 1: proud of myself. No, we're happy to have you here.

2016
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, CBS Sports and the Draft Show. Brian brought

2017
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:54,400
Speaker 1: us David Hellman. I'm Bill Jones, and we are now

2018
01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:57,840
Speaker 1: to pick number thirteen, the New Orleans Saints. You want

2019
01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:00,280
Speaker 1: talked to in the first Well, hometown boy, let's get it.

2020
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 1: What do you got? I mean, Grant, I spend all

2021
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:04,479
Speaker 1: my time covering the Cowboys. Yeah, I'm not going to

2022
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:06,519
Speaker 1: sit here and pretend like I'm an expert about the Saints,

2023
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 1: but I know they need they need an edge rusher,

2024
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:12,040
Speaker 1: and we were just talking about one who's sitting there.

2025
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:15,679
Speaker 1: You know, honestly, I thought Lall Collins to the Saints

2026
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:18,480
Speaker 1: was a really good bet until all of that unfortunateness

2027
01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:21,080
Speaker 1: came up in his way. I don't think that's a word.

2028
01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:23,880
Speaker 1: I was not. That's something that I would say. Uh

2029
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:27,320
Speaker 1: so when you take that, I mean they like I

2030
01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 1: might use it later on. They need oline, they need

2031
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:32,800
Speaker 1: a pass rusher. They could use a weapon for Drew

2032
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:34,800
Speaker 1: Brees to play with now that Jimmy Graham is gone

2033
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:38,240
Speaker 1: and they also traded away Kenny still. Yes, yes, and

2034
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 1: they have a lot of picks to address all that with.

2035
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:41,800
Speaker 1: They got two in this round, they got two in

2036
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:44,200
Speaker 1: the third, so they I think they pick five times

2037
01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:46,400
Speaker 1: in the first eighty picks, which is not and so

2038
01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:48,400
Speaker 1: we know they're taking Bryce Petty at thirty one. So

2039
01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:52,200
Speaker 1: if it's a defense here, is that where we're looking

2040
01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:54,599
Speaker 1: any chance at a DeVante Parker offense? Do you think

2041
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:57,479
Speaker 1: strictly defense? I think it could be. I think it

2042
01:42:57,520 --> 01:42:59,719
Speaker 1: could be. There's a big there's a big, heavy defensive

2043
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:02,360
Speaker 1: core in there that's fighting for a rusher. I mean,

2044
01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:06,720
Speaker 1: I'm outside. You got Drew Brees. I think he can.

2045
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:08,400
Speaker 1: I mean he can make it work. He won a

2046
01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 1: Super Bowl with Deverie Henderson, Robert Meetcham, and Jeremy Shockey.

2047
01:43:11,680 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 1: Quick question though off our off at the Draft show page.

2048
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:18,840
Speaker 1: Sarah wants to do you think that Gordon is now

2049
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 1: going to go sooner because of Girly being picked so high.

2050
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:25,120
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it really changes anything. I

2051
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:27,120
Speaker 1: think there's a handful of teams that want a running

2052
01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:30,600
Speaker 1: back in the first round, and I mean we're I

2053
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:33,599
Speaker 1: think you know you're Miami is a spot, San Diego

2054
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:35,519
Speaker 1: is a spot. We always thought those were spots where

2055
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:38,120
Speaker 1: running backs could go. And then you talk Arizona and

2056
01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:41,000
Speaker 1: Detroit in the twenties. So I don't think it really

2057
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:45,200
Speaker 1: another one. Yeah, I don't think anybody's gonna change their

2058
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:47,320
Speaker 1: game plan based on win Girley win, because I think

2059
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:49,640
Speaker 1: everybody assumed Girley was gonna go all right. Back in

2060
01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:52,120
Speaker 1: that room, the draft room, which we cannot look into

2061
01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:55,439
Speaker 1: right now, deal guys, Gordon the guy, if there was

2062
01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 1: a running back that they would consider in the first

2063
01:43:57,520 --> 01:43:59,800
Speaker 1: round as Gordon together, Yeah, I think so too. I mean,

2064
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:02,880
Speaker 1: are we getting to a point in time where we

2065
01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 1: we throughout some ideas on the Draft show about would

2066
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 1: you be willing to go up? And maybe maybe some

2067
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:13,240
Speaker 1: people maybe going up might not be yeh, but maybe

2068
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:15,920
Speaker 1: going up might not be as expensive Now maybe there's

2069
01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:18,080
Speaker 1: a few more guys that are starting to fall down

2070
01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:20,639
Speaker 1: the board that teams are saying. You know what, I'm

2071
01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:22,960
Speaker 1: willing to go back a little bit. How high are

2072
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 1: you willing to go? Well, I don't know. I think

2073
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:28,240
Speaker 1: he's got it in order for me to even start

2074
01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:29,880
Speaker 1: thinking about a trade. I think he's got a fall

2075
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:32,080
Speaker 1: past San Diego at seventeen. Yeah, which is not I

2076
01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:35,719
Speaker 1: don't think it's out of the realm of possibility. The Saints,

2077
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:39,040
Speaker 1: when we talked about them, let's focus on pick is

2078
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:41,439
Speaker 1: in for whatever. Okay, Well, what about though, on the

2079
01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:44,360
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. They need a lineman the

2080
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:47,479
Speaker 1: tackle end, don't I mean? I think they need a guard.

2081
01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:50,160
Speaker 1: They let go of Ben Grubs, they sent him, they

2082
01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:52,640
Speaker 1: traded him to Kansas City. Yeah, free agency, can you

2083
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:55,640
Speaker 1: pass on a talent like which? Great? I mean? And

2084
01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:57,880
Speaker 1: there's Parker. I don't think a tackle would be bad either.

2085
01:44:57,920 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 1: They got Zach Streef, who's getting up there. He's getting

2086
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:03,679
Speaker 1: along in the tooth uh Toron Armstead as their left tackle.

2087
01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:05,519
Speaker 1: I think guard would death of me. Need they talked

2088
01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:08,720
Speaker 1: about that's I thought. Outside Russia, we talked about the

2089
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:11,560
Speaker 1: talk about receiver, talked about tight end as well. I

2090
01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:13,680
Speaker 1: don't think they. I think they like the guys they

2091
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:15,840
Speaker 1: have on the roster at tight end, honestly, I mean

2092
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:18,080
Speaker 1: not enough that they're gonna draft Max Williams. Could they

2093
01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 1: could they? Could they wow you with something that Again,

2094
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:23,760
Speaker 1: this is to me Sean Payton's kind of a little

2095
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:26,120
Speaker 1: bit of a loose. He loves those guys stuff. He

2096
01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 1: likes to take guys that nobody's ever heard of. That's

2097
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 1: his favor, not take somebody. But I mean because we're

2098
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:33,280
Speaker 1: in the first round though, but you mentioned offensive tackle,

2099
01:45:33,320 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me. Keep in mind in the first round

2100
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:38,000
Speaker 1: last year they took a wide receiver in Brandon Crook. Yeah,

2101
01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:40,800
Speaker 1: I mean they have Cooks Colston Man. You miss him

2102
01:45:40,840 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 1: watching that tape? Well, he smokes. I just but you

2103
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:48,760
Speaker 1: pre seems very much a pick here. It wouldn't, but

2104
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:52,360
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be surprised if something wild happened them, really

2105
01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:55,360
Speaker 1: would I mean? And by the way, what they have

2106
01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:59,599
Speaker 1: an outside linebacker in New Orleans is Anthony Spencer. Yes,

2107
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:03,559
Speaker 1: and moving back to him, I would say Budd Dupree

2108
01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:06,200
Speaker 1: is a pick here. I'm not counting on Anthony Spencer

2109
01:46:06,439 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 1: to be much of anything. I'm just saying, this is

2110
01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:10,160
Speaker 1: a time when we start talking about Randy Gregory being

2111
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 1: a possibility. We knew he was going to probably fall

2112
01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:14,439
Speaker 1: at that top ten good point, but now we get

2113
01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:16,719
Speaker 1: to the middle part of the first round, Randy Gregory

2114
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:19,200
Speaker 1: starts to maybe be worth it. And so I've never

2115
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:21,479
Speaker 1: met him out, I've never met Rob Ryan, but he

2116
01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 1: doesn't strike me as the type to care about Shane Ray,

2117
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:30,600
Speaker 1: about Ray horse of a different color? What do we do?

2118
01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 1: We think probably the twenties is where we feel like

2119
01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:35,599
Speaker 1: Ray is going to be. Where do you possibility? Where

2120
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:37,559
Speaker 1: do you feel best about Ray? Four three or three

2121
01:46:37,640 --> 01:46:39,720
Speaker 1: four four three? Yeah? To me, he's an end. That's

2122
01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:41,840
Speaker 1: kind of what I think too. I don't really see

2123
01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:44,000
Speaker 1: him for the same Gregory you see standing up being

2124
01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:48,519
Speaker 1: a loose fluid to playing space where where Ray hit

2125
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:51,880
Speaker 1: his best asset first step getting up the field. Not

2126
01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:54,479
Speaker 1: someone necessarily you want in space, doesn't have that change

2127
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:58,040
Speaker 1: of direction that you want. So how does Gregory compare

2128
01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:04,120
Speaker 1: to Vic Beasley? Bigger, longer, Um, maybe I see more.

2129
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:06,599
Speaker 1: I don't think he wins the corner as much. Yeah,

2130
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:09,840
Speaker 1: he doesn't have that you get off necessarily, But yeah,

2131
01:47:10,160 --> 01:47:12,280
Speaker 1: I mean Gregory is he's he has a lot of

2132
01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:15,160
Speaker 1: what Beasley has athletically, just in a different body type.

2133
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:18,280
Speaker 1: With Gregory, it comes down to how much weight can

2134
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:20,400
Speaker 1: you put on him? And can he sustain that weight?

2135
01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:24,200
Speaker 1: Is it good weight? Is it? Uh, not only bulk

2136
01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:28,120
Speaker 1: but muscle functional strength. So those are the questions obviously

2137
01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:30,800
Speaker 1: on the field. Now off the field, we have other

2138
01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:34,600
Speaker 1: questions with Gregory, A lot of questions. Yeah, I was

2139
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:37,439
Speaker 1: going back to dupris um. We thought he a player

2140
01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:39,360
Speaker 1: that could go as high as six to the Jets.

2141
01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:43,040
Speaker 1: He's still on the board here at thirteen. You know,

2142
01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:48,120
Speaker 1: in a three to four dupri left side, I would say, yeah,

2143
01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:49,600
Speaker 1: I would say you could probably put him on the

2144
01:47:49,720 --> 01:47:51,880
Speaker 1: on the left side and let him go. But but

2145
01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:56,479
Speaker 1: you got but you do have Anthon Spencer. Spencer made

2146
01:47:56,640 --> 01:47:58,560
Speaker 1: Ye made a Pro Bowl playing as a as a

2147
01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 1: left outside a line a strong linebacker here. So I

2148
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:07,599
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I just rob Ryan I think

2149
01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:10,479
Speaker 1: carries a big stick. Yeah, but I could also see

2150
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:15,120
Speaker 1: Sean Payton basically saying, you know, Drew Brees. Drew Brees

2151
01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:19,640
Speaker 1: has been very vocal about losing offensive player. Am I

2152
01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:21,840
Speaker 1: am I correct about that? I'm seeing a lot of

2153
01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:26,720
Speaker 1: Twitter chatters, maybe Pete is the pick here. I'm not sure. Thick.

2154
01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:32,240
Speaker 1: In the twenty fifteen NFL Draft, did New Orleans Saints

2155
01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:42,040
Speaker 1: select Andrews Pete Steel at thirteen? Did you have him

2156
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:46,280
Speaker 1: mocked at the Saints at thirteen? Uh no, No, not

2157
01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:49,439
Speaker 1: a chance, not a chance. I did have him top

2158
01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:51,320
Speaker 1: ten though, I had him ten to the Rams. Brian

2159
01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:54,840
Speaker 1: not a fan, I'm not. I'm not, you know, but

2160
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:57,240
Speaker 1: he was in my top fifty. A second round player

2161
01:48:57,240 --> 01:48:59,000
Speaker 1: for you. I had him as a second round player.

2162
01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:03,280
Speaker 1: I think the one of those soft Stanford tackles. Well,

2163
01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:07,000
Speaker 1: the problem the thing about him outstanding getting away from

2164
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:10,400
Speaker 1: the line. He you you could see the kick to slide,

2165
01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:14,519
Speaker 1: the punch, you see that. The run blocking stuff, I

2166
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:16,720
Speaker 1: saw a guy that was heavy legged. Though as far

2167
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:18,800
Speaker 1: as run blocking, I saw a guy that was on

2168
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:21,200
Speaker 1: the ground a lot. I really wasn't you know. The

2169
01:49:21,320 --> 01:49:25,479
Speaker 1: sustain there's there's Stanford offensive tackles in linemen that they

2170
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:27,080
Speaker 1: would get in there, they get the hold of the

2171
01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:30,040
Speaker 1: guys and they finish. I didn't see a great finisher

2172
01:49:30,160 --> 01:49:33,559
Speaker 1: here that that that bothered me. Against some some really

2173
01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:36,000
Speaker 1: some good talent in the past in the U in

2174
01:49:36,080 --> 01:49:38,960
Speaker 1: the Pac twelve and I just saw but the pass

2175
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:41,080
Speaker 1: blocking stuff when he could kick and get out, and

2176
01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:44,840
Speaker 1: he's got that link to hold guys off. But I

2177
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:46,960
Speaker 1: worried about him and the running in being a strong

2178
01:49:47,320 --> 01:49:49,720
Speaker 1: point of attack. That's that's interesting though. I mean, you

2179
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:51,800
Speaker 1: just you brought mark Ingram back. He had a Pro

2180
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:54,720
Speaker 1: Bowl year, Drew Brees a lot like Tony Romo. You

2181
01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:56,840
Speaker 1: probably figure you got a maximum of three or four

2182
01:49:56,960 --> 01:49:59,240
Speaker 1: more years to try to win with him. You lose

2183
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:01,640
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham. Now you've got a first round tackle and

2184
01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:04,800
Speaker 1: you got Max Hunger who was not not bad, not

2185
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:08,200
Speaker 1: bad anchor in that offensive line. So I don't I

2186
01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:10,600
Speaker 1: don't have a problem with it. I don't works for me.

2187
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:13,280
Speaker 1: And we're gonna see these tackles. Yeah, you know we

2188
01:50:13,479 --> 01:50:17,639
Speaker 1: we We've seen Schurf go five, we saw Flowers go nine,

2189
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:20,720
Speaker 1: and now we see h Pete go thirteen. So I

2190
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:23,280
Speaker 1: had Humphries is a better player in my mind, and

2191
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:26,000
Speaker 1: as Humphries was a second round player on my board

2192
01:50:26,040 --> 01:50:29,519
Speaker 1: as well. But I talked about Flowers, Humphrey, a Boohee

2193
01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:33,120
Speaker 1: and Pete were my second round offensive With Humphries, he

2194
01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:36,320
Speaker 1: might have the best feat in this direct among offensive

2195
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:39,639
Speaker 1: linement with Pete. I see, you know, and they're showing

2196
01:50:39,680 --> 01:50:41,680
Speaker 1: some stuff in ANFL network right now that it just

2197
01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:45,559
Speaker 1: does not look promising for Pete. Nate Orchard be Yeah.

2198
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:47,160
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of bad tape out there

2199
01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:49,720
Speaker 1: on Pete. But again, I think you look at what

2200
01:50:50,200 --> 01:50:52,400
Speaker 1: he needs to work on. It's fixable. To me. I

2201
01:50:52,840 --> 01:50:55,360
Speaker 1: really believe that he has what you can't teach with

2202
01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:58,400
Speaker 1: that that balanced, that body control. Um, you have a

2203
01:50:58,439 --> 01:51:01,520
Speaker 1: lot to work with their know how, these teams love bloodlines.

2204
01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:03,320
Speaker 1: Has dad played in the NFL for a long time?

2205
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:06,560
Speaker 1: You see this play, Well, here's David Shaw's coach is

2206
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:08,920
Speaker 1: on the panel here on the NFL network, And I'm

2207
01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:12,320
Speaker 1: sure David's giving you a great insight here we're trying

2208
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:15,240
Speaker 1: to I think Dane's done a nice job. I he

2209
01:51:15,400 --> 01:51:18,240
Speaker 1: and I. That's one player and there's several players. If

2210
01:51:18,280 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 1: you if you're a fan of the Draft show, you

2211
01:51:20,439 --> 01:51:22,600
Speaker 1: know that we disagree on players. We've had guys that

2212
01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:25,240
Speaker 1: we've gone back and I respect his opinion because what

2213
01:51:25,479 --> 01:51:28,880
Speaker 1: he's saying, though, he's right, they're fixable things. But I'd

2214
01:51:28,920 --> 01:51:31,160
Speaker 1: just like to see a little bit better finish. I

2215
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:32,920
Speaker 1: would like to not see him on the ground in

2216
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:36,679
Speaker 1: the room, but I did compliment him on the past

2217
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:39,799
Speaker 1: set and getting to that point. And you talked about

2218
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:42,240
Speaker 1: the feet and he's gonna give a lot of time

2219
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:46,040
Speaker 1: to pass set in New Orleans. And obviously Drew Brees

2220
01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:51,080
Speaker 1: a little disappointed by what's going on with losing some

2221
01:51:51,200 --> 01:51:53,080
Speaker 1: weapons and they got to find a way to protect him. Now,

2222
01:51:53,120 --> 01:51:56,800
Speaker 1: he probably got two minutes left before the Dolphins pick. Here,

2223
01:51:57,000 --> 01:51:58,840
Speaker 1: he's in a spot also a lot like we talked

2224
01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:01,200
Speaker 1: about with the tackle. Here, he's in a spot where

2225
01:52:01,240 --> 01:52:03,280
Speaker 1: he doesn't necessarily have to be the man right away,

2226
01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:06,400
Speaker 1: which is always I think good for a developing player. Yeah,

2227
01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:11,200
Speaker 1: um with uh the Miami Todd Gurley's not there, so

2228
01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:14,320
Speaker 1: you kind of miss out on that. But DeVante Parker

2229
01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:18,000
Speaker 1: is there and that's uh, that's a terrific This is

2230
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:21,880
Speaker 1: Parker in my opinion. This way you look at the knee, Well,

2231
01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:26,120
Speaker 1: they traded for Kenny Stills and they signed Greg Jennings,

2232
01:52:26,439 --> 01:52:31,400
Speaker 1: but Jennings, this is this guy. Parker is Dez Bryant.

2233
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:33,920
Speaker 1: When he catches the ball, he's a big man, he

2234
01:52:34,080 --> 01:52:37,599
Speaker 1: takes it. Okay, we're like we got movement, we got moving,

2235
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:42,840
Speaker 1: we got moved, we got drafted. After we have war room. Hey, Jerry,

2236
01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:44,840
Speaker 1: Hey Stephen, Hey Ad Jason, So as you can see,

2237
01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:48,720
Speaker 1: we'll go to it and uh, finally and every time,

2238
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:51,160
Speaker 1: so K Garrison's giving me the thumbs up. It looks

2239
01:52:51,200 --> 01:52:53,479
Speaker 1: like we've got an hour and forty minutes into the

2240
01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:56,320
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen draft and we have the feed. There you go,

2241
01:52:56,680 --> 01:52:59,920
Speaker 1: so all principles. I did not really like people live

2242
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:02,360
Speaker 1: for this thing I've getting been getting blown up on me.

2243
01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:06,000
Speaker 1: They think that is more interesting. I know, I don't understand.

2244
01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:10,800
Speaker 1: You see the you see my color combo here see

2245
01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:15,439
Speaker 1: it now? So that's uh, Charlotte Jones, Anderson to the

2246
01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:18,479
Speaker 1: far left on the screen, of course, Jason Garrett, Jerry Jones,

2247
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:21,519
Speaker 1: Steve Jow, Will McClay. They just took a seat. And yeah,

2248
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:24,320
Speaker 1: you also got rich dalrymple in which you're not gonna

2249
01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:26,919
Speaker 1: be able to see anything. I didn't know this until recently.

2250
01:53:27,200 --> 01:53:30,240
Speaker 1: Um this this room behind them is Chris Hall's off right,

2251
01:53:30,360 --> 01:53:33,320
Speaker 1: which he basically is the head of college scouting. As

2252
01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:35,519
Speaker 1: you're looking at that's where the the the phone is.

2253
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:39,240
Speaker 1: The back to Robert Blackwell in New York. So uh,

2254
01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:41,439
Speaker 1: they will. They will talk to Chris. They will yell

2255
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 1: from the table in through that hallway that where you

2256
01:53:44,240 --> 01:53:47,400
Speaker 1: see the window. Chris has his shades drawn right there.

2257
01:53:47,479 --> 01:53:49,800
Speaker 1: But they yelled to him and tell him the pick,

2258
01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:53,800
Speaker 1: and then he conveys it to Robert Blackwell, who then

2259
01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:56,640
Speaker 1: uh turns the card in. So it looks like that

2260
01:53:56,800 --> 01:53:59,599
Speaker 1: the uh that the Dolphins do have their picking. We've

2261
01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:02,839
Speaker 1: talked about this all along though. We think it's DeVante

2262
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:04,800
Speaker 1: Parker here right. I see a J. Green. I see

2263
01:54:04,840 --> 01:54:06,800
Speaker 1: a player that plays above the rim. He can help

2264
01:54:06,840 --> 01:54:10,040
Speaker 1: you at all levels of the field. Um he man,

2265
01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:12,880
Speaker 1: He's not a J. Green, He's but he's a notch below.

2266
01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:15,920
Speaker 1: He's that type of style of receiver. And for the Dolphins,

2267
01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:19,280
Speaker 1: you lose Mike Wallace, you lose Brian Hartline, you gain

2268
01:54:19,400 --> 01:54:22,040
Speaker 1: Kenny Stills, you gain Greg Jennings, but you still need

2269
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:24,479
Speaker 1: that number one guy, DeVante Parker's it. That is a

2270
01:54:24,640 --> 01:54:28,000
Speaker 1: pretty sexy receiver. Corps. If they do, in fact take

2271
01:54:28,080 --> 01:54:30,000
Speaker 1: Davante Parker, I mean you got him at the one.

2272
01:54:30,640 --> 01:54:33,480
Speaker 1: Stills as your deep threat, Jarvis Landry doing a little

2273
01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:37,200
Speaker 1: bit of everything inside and outside. Best hands ever, I

2274
01:54:37,280 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 1: think they don't have a really great running back. But

2275
01:54:39,480 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 1: this is my sixth best player on my top fifty.

2276
01:54:43,160 --> 01:54:47,200
Speaker 1: I can I just saw Dez Bryan in the open field.

2277
01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:49,480
Speaker 1: If if this is the pick, and you know, and

2278
01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:52,200
Speaker 1: Tanny Hill hits him on the move, you're gonna see

2279
01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:55,240
Speaker 1: a guy that's gonna run, but he's gonna make life miserable.

2280
01:54:55,400 --> 01:54:57,720
Speaker 1: He's like the Randy Moss just points up. Yeah, you know,

2281
01:54:57,840 --> 01:55:00,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's yeah, it's like it's just down on

2282
01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:03,960
Speaker 1: the field. It's it's running those inside routes, it's running slants,

2283
01:55:04,240 --> 01:55:07,120
Speaker 1: it's making tough plays. Kid plays the chip on it.

2284
01:55:07,160 --> 01:55:10,880
Speaker 1: And he's a big guy. Six two, you know, I

2285
01:55:10,920 --> 01:55:14,560
Speaker 1: mean six six two and a half, Yeah, exactly, ten Yeah,

2286
01:55:14,720 --> 01:55:18,440
Speaker 1: thirty three. I think the Dolphins, if they get guys

2287
01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:21,120
Speaker 1: in the corner, if this is a pick, if this

2288
01:55:21,320 --> 01:55:24,080
Speaker 1: is their pick, though they did, they got somebody that

2289
01:55:24,200 --> 01:55:27,560
Speaker 1: will go, that will help their quarterback and scores touchdowns. Yeah,

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01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:30,760
Speaker 1: he had a touchdown every four point seven catches in

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Speaker 1: his career at Louisville. That's an outstanding ratio. It helps

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Speaker 1: with Teddy Bridgewater as your quarterback too. Yeah, well what

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Speaker 1: about two? And they also brought in Nelson Agyar. Now again,

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Speaker 1: I'm just talking about receivers that you know, we've they've

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Speaker 1: uh that they've looked at. But we we've been all

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Speaker 1: along though. I'm just telling you though, that Agar is

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Speaker 1: on a lot of boards. Could be a late one though,

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01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:57,800
Speaker 1: couldn't he? Dan fourteens? Rich? Yeah, but that's actually rich. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But I didn't think they were gonna take a I

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Speaker 1: didn't think they would take Pete at thirteen. Yeah. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if we're up to you, Pete would be

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Speaker 1: going like thirty times. That's okay, that's all right. But

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Speaker 1: Dean Parker though, I just love this guy. That's I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you're and I mean the Dolphins are believers in

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Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill, Yeah, I mean weapons, load them up. You

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Speaker 1: know you need weapons. Yeah, and we get all these players,

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Speaker 1: So we're going to see this guy next year. I

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Speaker 1: have to go see that. It's a great point. I

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01:56:25,600 --> 01:56:28,040
Speaker 1: have to go see back to back to back and

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Speaker 1: Tannehill and Parker. Yeah, let's go. So Melvin Gordon, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but the highest rated players on my board, I could

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Speaker 1: say we're Kevin Johnson, Bud Dupree, Byron john I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they they're down to this, this has got to be

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Speaker 1: they just need a receiver. They need somebody. It looks

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Speaker 1: like to me, let's see if the commissioner in fact

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Speaker 1: is going to the podium, that's just that draft town

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Speaker 1: that that that thing is cool like in uh and

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Speaker 1: they said they had seventy nine thousand applicants to get

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Speaker 1: in there. Here it goes wow, the commissioner. On the

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Speaker 1: fourteenth pick in the twenty fifteen NFL Draft, the Miami

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Speaker 1: Dolphins Selectant Parker. Yeah, wide receiver Louisville DeVante Parker out

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Speaker 1: of Louisville six three two o nine. I got you, Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know I could say we h Parker's a guy,

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Speaker 1: absolutely love him, and then find a way to uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, use him. He's gonna help this receiver, help

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Speaker 1: this quarterback a ton So yeah, outstanding pick. If you

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Speaker 1: take a little break here for a minute or so, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: absolutely got good. You know, it looks like San Francisco

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Speaker 1: up next, the fifteenth pick, followed by Houston. We are

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Speaker 1: as you look live at the war room and what's

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Speaker 1: going on in there, which is nothing right now, Nick

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Speaker 1: Atman of Dallas Cowboys dot Com has joined us. Now, Nick,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about the first half of the

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Speaker 1: first round so far? It's kind of speeding up a

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Speaker 1: little bit. It's uh, I don't wouldn't say there have

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Speaker 1: been a lot of surprises, but I think they're starting

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02:00:30,200 --> 02:00:32,760
Speaker 1: to come now. We have our first surprise really with

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Speaker 1: our first trade of the draft. Uh. The San Diego

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02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:38,360
Speaker 1: Chargers move up two spots, give up a fourth and

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Speaker 1: a fifth to get that fifteenth pick with the Niners,

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Speaker 1: and we think this has got to be that other

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Speaker 1: running back, right, You would think that's kind of surprising

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Speaker 1: to me that they I mean, I got a fourth

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Speaker 1: and a fifth. Isn't super superstitious. They were worried about

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Speaker 1: Houston at sixteen possibly going running back with Arian Foster. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he's blue and yeah blue, Hey come on at LSU,

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02:01:01,800 --> 02:01:05,840
Speaker 1: come on. So Yeah, I mean, he's had injury problems.

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Speaker 1: You got, you got a point. So this would be

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Speaker 1: from an offensive standpoint. This would be if if Gordon

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Speaker 1: does go off the board like you're suggesting, and it

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Speaker 1: seems like this would be one of those guys that

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys could have traded up for exactly. And you

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02:01:20,160 --> 02:01:23,000
Speaker 1: know that now with Gurley and Gordon gone, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's probably not going to be a running back that

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Speaker 1: they want to take at twenty seven. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I think this eliminates their first round running back. Here

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Speaker 1: it comes as the commissioner with a Chargers selection Cisco

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers have traded the fifteenth pick to the

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Speaker 1: San Diego Chargers. With the fifteenth pick in the twenty

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Speaker 1: fifteen NFL Draft, the San Diego Chargers select Melvin Gordon,

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Speaker 1: running back Wisconsin. So there are two running backs off

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Speaker 1: the board. Now Gurley went to Saint Louis at ten

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Speaker 1: and now Melvin Gordon to San Diego at fifteen. How

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Speaker 1: you feeling about your bold prediction there, Dane, Which one

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Speaker 1: the one where you said they'd both be gone by

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Speaker 1: twenty Oh? I guess I got one right, all right?

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Speaker 1: One for five so far? Brookler has gotten several things

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Speaker 1: right so far in this draft. Two drafts where there

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Speaker 1: wasn't a running back taken in the first round, and

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Speaker 1: now you got them both. So on Dallas Cowboys dot com,

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Speaker 1: we have some I mean, in my defense, I mocked

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Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon the Cowboys at twenty seven. In my analysis,

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Speaker 1: I said, I really don't even think the Cowboys are

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Speaker 1: gonna pick tonight, so maybe that can be my saving

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Speaker 1: I kind of went the other way. I went the

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Speaker 1: other way around. I actually had them taking a guy tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if that Shaq Thompson will

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Speaker 1: be Oh, that's right. But I also said they could

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Speaker 1: trade up for a guy like Gordon or Kevin Jon.

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Speaker 1: We were saying before you came on, if they were

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Speaker 1: going to do a deal for Gordon, I think it

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Speaker 1: would have he would have had to have fallen to

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Speaker 1: about at least eighteen or nineteen, and obviously that's not

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Speaker 1: the case. I just think that the price is too

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Speaker 1: let's clarify to guys, I'm filling in just for a second.

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Speaker 1: Brian brought this is doing some other radio's a he's

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Speaker 1: a man of many talents. Yeah, and so he will

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Speaker 1: be back shortly and giving his analysis. But Dane, from

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Speaker 1: just from a running back standpoint, from Melvin Gordon and Gurley,

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Speaker 1: how different do you think they are? And from a

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Speaker 1: talent level standpoint, I think we all agree that Todd

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Speaker 1: Gurley was on a tier by himself in terms of

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Speaker 1: running back talent in this class, but Melvin Gordon not

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Speaker 1: far behind. And in a draft like this where we

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Speaker 1: don't have those elite guys, talents like this are going

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Speaker 1: to go high on the board. And so we haven't

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Speaker 1: seen that running back two years in a row go

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Speaker 1: in the first round. This year we have two in

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Speaker 1: the top twenty with Melvin Gordon. Production speaks for itself,

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Speaker 1: almost twenty six hundred yards last year. You just see

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Speaker 1: it on film, the balance, the acceleration, it's elite. You

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Speaker 1: see a little Jamal Charles there. So Todd Gurley an excellent,

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Speaker 1: excellent player, but Melvin Gordon a little different, not too

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Speaker 1: far off. So the Chargers they lost Ryan Matthews to

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Speaker 1: free agency. Now at Philadelphia Eagle Melvin Gore and gets

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02:04:00,240 --> 02:04:02,400
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers in that offense a little bit of life.

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Speaker 1: So now you go to what sixteen and Houston, this

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Speaker 1: is all Right's safe to say the Cowboys now will

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Speaker 1: not take a running back in the first round. I

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Speaker 1: think that's six. I think you can bank that in.

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Speaker 1: This has the potential to be a really interesting I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you're a Cowboys fan trying to keep an eye

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Speaker 1: on the best case scenario for your team, Houston and

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Speaker 1: Kevin Johnson have a mighty strong link there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you've been hearing it from a lot of places. We

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Speaker 1: talked about it last or yesterday during the draft show

2461
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Speaker 1: when we talked about where's Kevin Johnson going to go?

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Speaker 1: Sixteen was where I said, I that's the first place

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Speaker 1: where I'm worried he's going to come off the board

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Speaker 1: of sixteen twenty twenty two. Yeah, absolutely. Now they have

2465
02:04:40,000 --> 02:04:44,040
Speaker 1: been mocked at receivers for a long time. The I

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Speaker 1: can't say. I mean, he's a guy that's been thrown

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Speaker 1: into the mix here. I think it's corner. We have

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02:04:51,480 --> 02:04:55,080
Speaker 1: to remember too, Bud Dupree. Uh, that's a great place

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Speaker 1: on the board. He probably didn't expect him to be here.

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02:04:57,520 --> 02:05:00,600
Speaker 1: And they lost Rush Read, they lost Brooks Read Whitney.

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Speaker 1: Merciless will be a free agent after this year. Trading

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Speaker 1: block what a name? So you can't rule out but

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Speaker 1: the pre here, but I keep, you know, keep going

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Speaker 1: back to Kevin Johnson. Uh, the Texans. They brought back

2475
02:05:11,160 --> 02:05:14,760
Speaker 1: Cream Jackson to a four year deal. Jonathan Joseph the

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02:05:14,840 --> 02:05:17,720
Speaker 1: other corner. He's gonna be thirty two years old next year.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't you hate to be a corner for Houston? You know,

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02:05:20,480 --> 02:05:22,960
Speaker 1: you just have to cover when when clowney and wide

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02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:25,080
Speaker 1: or Russian in the pass or that doesn't sound bad,

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02:05:25,440 --> 02:05:27,760
Speaker 1: that doesn't it's a good spot to get to it.

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02:05:27,920 --> 02:05:29,840
Speaker 1: On the flip side, you do have Andrew luck in

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02:05:29,920 --> 02:05:33,040
Speaker 1: your division, but with those pass rushers, yeah, you have

2483
02:05:33,160 --> 02:05:37,600
Speaker 1: to abortles. That's very true. That's very true. You could

2484
02:05:37,640 --> 02:05:39,920
Speaker 1: either be really happy about Bortles and Mariota are not

2485
02:05:40,040 --> 02:05:44,680
Speaker 1: so Happy's pick is in this is and we've spent

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02:05:44,840 --> 02:05:47,720
Speaker 1: so much time talking and prepping for the possibility of

2487
02:05:47,880 --> 02:05:50,920
Speaker 1: getting what you know, quote unquote wiped out, and this

2488
02:05:51,080 --> 02:05:52,640
Speaker 1: is where you could start to see it kind of.

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02:05:53,160 --> 02:05:57,280
Speaker 1: Soho's Kevin Johnson? So give me five or six cowboy,

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02:05:58,520 --> 02:06:00,960
Speaker 1: five or six names the cowboy we're hoping would get

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02:06:00,960 --> 02:06:04,200
Speaker 1: to twenty seven that we're reasonable outside of the obvious

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02:06:04,360 --> 02:06:07,120
Speaker 1: ones that weren't going to get there, Kevin Johnson, that's

2493
02:06:07,160 --> 02:06:10,080
Speaker 1: the tough that's the tough part. What's separating reasonable with

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02:06:10,440 --> 02:06:12,440
Speaker 1: you know what you were hoping for because Kevin Johnson,

2495
02:06:12,680 --> 02:06:16,320
Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown, you're but not really reasonably they'd be there

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Speaker 1: at twenty seven. Yeah, and you look at the running

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02:06:18,520 --> 02:06:21,520
Speaker 1: backs you'd love to see it not really reasonable. So

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02:06:21,880 --> 02:06:24,760
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a tough when you're picking at twenty

2499
02:06:24,760 --> 02:06:27,640
Speaker 1: seven solo. So we haven't seen one yet go off

2500
02:06:27,680 --> 02:06:30,760
Speaker 1: the board that was reasonably could get to twenty seven.

2501
02:06:31,000 --> 02:06:33,000
Speaker 1: I think that's fair to say. I think Kevin Johnson's

2502
02:06:33,040 --> 02:06:35,000
Speaker 1: probably that first guy if he comes off the board

2503
02:06:35,040 --> 02:06:37,320
Speaker 1: here in the next few picks, whether that's Houston sixteen

2504
02:06:37,440 --> 02:06:40,040
Speaker 1: we started at eighteen to that handful that the Cowboys

2505
02:06:40,120 --> 02:06:42,720
Speaker 1: had targeted. Who are some other guys you think that

2506
02:06:42,760 --> 02:06:45,560
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have targeted there? And I guess Gregory would

2507
02:06:45,560 --> 02:06:48,880
Speaker 1: be one. Now if we about the pass rushers, Randy Gregory,

2508
02:06:48,920 --> 02:06:52,520
Speaker 1: Buddy Preestile on the board, um Bud Dupre. I think

2509
02:06:52,520 --> 02:06:54,839
Speaker 1: get to look at Cleveland at nineteen is a possible

2510
02:06:54,880 --> 02:06:58,000
Speaker 1: scenario there, Uh the forty nine ers who moved back

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02:06:58,080 --> 02:07:01,840
Speaker 1: from fifteen to seventeen, they could use another pass rusher.

2512
02:07:02,280 --> 02:07:04,600
Speaker 1: So with Budd Dupree, I don't don't think you feel

2513
02:07:04,640 --> 02:07:07,280
Speaker 1: good about him lasting to twenty seven. But one of

2514
02:07:07,360 --> 02:07:09,680
Speaker 1: those names that maybe didn't expect on the board here

2515
02:07:09,680 --> 02:07:13,040
Speaker 1: in the late teens. Where do you have uh Oregan's Armstead?

2516
02:07:13,160 --> 02:07:15,640
Speaker 1: Where do you have him in this Eric Armstead? He's

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02:07:15,840 --> 02:07:19,360
Speaker 1: uh you know you talk about maybe to New Orleans

2518
02:07:19,400 --> 02:07:22,080
Speaker 1: at thirteen you thought that was a possibility. Um, I

2519
02:07:22,200 --> 02:07:26,960
Speaker 1: like him, Houston. I think I think I think they're

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02:07:26,960 --> 02:07:31,000
Speaker 1: pretty set there at that position. Yeah. Yeah, but you

2521
02:07:31,120 --> 02:07:35,720
Speaker 1: know we've said this before. Oma and Tuck and Kimuka

2522
02:07:35,800 --> 02:07:38,360
Speaker 1: and straighthand were pretty set and then a sudden JPP

2523
02:07:38,640 --> 02:07:42,480
Speaker 1: was pretty good pass rushers. You know what Parcels used

2524
02:07:42,480 --> 02:07:45,320
Speaker 1: to say about tight ends, keep them coming. I've used

2525
02:07:45,360 --> 02:07:47,160
Speaker 1: that in my day to day life so much. I

2526
02:07:47,280 --> 02:07:49,360
Speaker 1: love it. It's you know, at some point, guys, not

2527
02:07:49,480 --> 02:07:52,160
Speaker 1: maybe not right now, but this is what people are seeing.

2528
02:07:52,200 --> 02:07:53,920
Speaker 1: I bet you there's a lot of people going, who

2529
02:07:54,160 --> 02:07:57,080
Speaker 1: is that guy? Who is he? We were? Yeah, you

2530
02:07:57,160 --> 02:07:58,840
Speaker 1: all done this already, not I mean not in a

2531
02:07:58,880 --> 02:08:01,360
Speaker 1: great I mean, okay, that's Jason Garrett. If you didn't

2532
02:08:01,400 --> 02:08:04,000
Speaker 1: know who the big red guy was that's Jason Garrett.

2533
02:08:04,600 --> 02:08:07,640
Speaker 1: Uh the okay, so we got Charlotte Jones Anderson that

2534
02:08:07,720 --> 02:08:10,920
Speaker 1: would be Jerry's daughter, and one of the executive vice presidents,

2535
02:08:10,920 --> 02:08:14,160
Speaker 1: Steven Jones obviously. Uh. This guy in the back that

2536
02:08:14,240 --> 02:08:16,880
Speaker 1: you're looking at, who's nobody's seeing your point? By the way,

2537
02:08:17,040 --> 02:08:22,280
Speaker 1: that's a good point reading something. That's a that's rich Dalrymple,

2538
02:08:22,280 --> 02:08:24,760
Speaker 1: who is who's the cowboys head of public relations and

2539
02:08:24,840 --> 02:08:27,760
Speaker 1: as kind of Jerry's right hand man. Um, one of

2540
02:08:27,800 --> 02:08:31,480
Speaker 1: the scouts, Drew Fabit, and we mentioned um, if you

2541
02:08:31,560 --> 02:08:33,360
Speaker 1: see a guy he sits in the part of the

2542
02:08:33,400 --> 02:08:34,800
Speaker 1: screen that you can't see. But if you see a

2543
02:08:34,840 --> 02:08:38,800
Speaker 1: guy with surprisingly long hair, that would be Chris Hall,

2544
02:08:38,840 --> 02:08:41,720
Speaker 1: who's the director of college scouting. That's his office behind

2545
02:08:41,800 --> 02:08:43,800
Speaker 1: the war room table right there. It's been there like

2546
02:08:43,840 --> 02:08:46,320
Speaker 1: twenty five years. Yeah. No. I interviewed him for a

2547
02:08:46,400 --> 02:08:49,320
Speaker 1: story earlier this spring. He started the year Emmett Smith

2548
02:08:49,440 --> 02:08:52,200
Speaker 1: was drafted, so twenty five years ago he has been

2549
02:08:52,360 --> 02:08:54,200
Speaker 1: here for it. Which, by the way, that is the

2550
02:08:54,320 --> 02:08:58,879
Speaker 1: draft that get me very interested in researching draft hopefuls.

2551
02:08:58,960 --> 02:09:01,920
Speaker 1: And that's what here's the Commissi with houstage pick with

2552
02:09:02,160 --> 02:09:06,720
Speaker 1: the sixteenth pick in the twenty fifteen NFL Draft, the

2553
02:09:06,880 --> 02:09:12,400
Speaker 1: Houston Texans select Kevin Johnson. The cowboy targets right there.

2554
02:09:13,240 --> 02:09:16,280
Speaker 1: I think, Yelda, we we talked about this being a

2555
02:09:16,560 --> 02:09:19,480
Speaker 1: possible scenario where Houston has a need at corner. Kevin

2556
02:09:19,600 --> 02:09:23,240
Speaker 1: Johnson just a terrific player of first round talent. So

2557
02:09:23,920 --> 02:09:27,240
Speaker 1: it's you hate to see it for Dallas, but Houston

2558
02:09:27,320 --> 02:09:30,600
Speaker 1: just got a heck and it was in looking at

2559
02:09:30,680 --> 02:09:34,400
Speaker 1: most people's big boards coming in the last few days,

2560
02:09:34,800 --> 02:09:37,200
Speaker 1: it was not reasonable Kevin Johnson was gonna get to twenty.

2561
02:09:37,520 --> 02:09:40,120
Speaker 1: It reminds me a lot of my first draft here

2562
02:09:40,240 --> 02:09:43,720
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, when Chance Warmack and Jonathan Cooper were the

2563
02:09:43,800 --> 02:09:46,560
Speaker 1: guys that everybody wanted to bolster that oh line, and

2564
02:09:47,040 --> 02:09:49,160
Speaker 1: you know, the closer and closer got to the draft,

2565
02:09:49,200 --> 02:09:50,560
Speaker 1: the more you just kind of saw the writing on

2566
02:09:50,600 --> 02:09:53,680
Speaker 1: the wall that that's probably not a possibility. Same thing

2567
02:09:53,720 --> 02:09:56,120
Speaker 1: with Kevin Johnson. I mean, every mock you looked at

2568
02:09:56,320 --> 02:09:58,360
Speaker 1: him had him off the board by twenty or twenty one,

2569
02:09:59,120 --> 02:10:01,480
Speaker 1: which again maybe you could trade, but you're asking a

2570
02:10:01,560 --> 02:10:04,760
Speaker 1: big price to do that, so you know, not a

2571
02:10:04,840 --> 02:10:08,000
Speaker 1: huge surprise. Definitely definitely disappointing for the guys in that

2572
02:10:08,160 --> 02:10:11,160
Speaker 1: room right there, if I had to guess um. And

2573
02:10:11,600 --> 02:10:14,800
Speaker 1: another thing too, is that you don't think that in

2574
02:10:14,920 --> 02:10:19,000
Speaker 1: ten spots or so eleven spots that Byron Jones probably

2575
02:10:19,000 --> 02:10:21,160
Speaker 1: won't get get picked either. If that's another guy that

2576
02:10:21,240 --> 02:10:24,040
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are absolutely he's probably the next corner that

2577
02:10:24,120 --> 02:10:28,080
Speaker 1: would go probably, Yeah, you're looking at who's really looking

2578
02:10:28,120 --> 02:10:31,640
Speaker 1: at corner here? Philadelphia. That's where Byron Jones makes a

2579
02:10:31,720 --> 02:10:34,400
Speaker 1: lot of sense. I mean, shoot, if they if he

2580
02:10:34,440 --> 02:10:37,920
Speaker 1: gets past Philly and Pittsburgh, Baltimore needs a corner like nobody.

2581
02:10:38,000 --> 02:10:39,920
Speaker 1: And it goes back to what we discussed yesterday during

2582
02:10:39,920 --> 02:10:42,080
Speaker 1: the Draft show about trade up options. We traded up

2583
02:10:42,080 --> 02:10:43,640
Speaker 1: to twenty one to get Kevin john and I would

2584
02:10:43,640 --> 02:10:46,200
Speaker 1: absolutely I would do it. And if if Byron Jones

2585
02:10:46,240 --> 02:10:49,760
Speaker 1: gets past twenties and heard that, you know what that's

2586
02:10:50,400 --> 02:10:53,480
Speaker 1: hurting We give these things away our fantastic access. That's

2587
02:10:53,480 --> 02:10:55,440
Speaker 1: what happened. What do you think San Francisco is gonna do?

2588
02:10:55,640 --> 02:10:58,320
Speaker 1: And San Francisco's on the copp now having traded down

2589
02:10:58,600 --> 02:11:01,480
Speaker 1: from fifteen to seventeen, Well, we're on Randy Gregory watch

2590
02:11:01,600 --> 02:11:05,040
Speaker 1: where a pass rusher is possible. Bud Dupriest still available. Uh,

2591
02:11:05,480 --> 02:11:08,960
Speaker 1: keep it to the front seven. Eric Armstead a five

2592
02:11:09,080 --> 02:11:12,240
Speaker 1: technique where you know, we talk about the forty nine

2593
02:11:15,080 --> 02:11:18,040
Speaker 1: front seven's aging. You're not getting any younger. So Eric

2594
02:11:18,240 --> 02:11:21,160
Speaker 1: Armstead has all the talent in the world. Wouldn't they

2595
02:11:21,440 --> 02:11:23,680
Speaker 1: You would think they would want a linebacker if there

2596
02:11:23,800 --> 02:11:27,000
Speaker 1: was one that fit right here? Right? Yeah, absolutely, is

2597
02:11:27,040 --> 02:11:29,840
Speaker 1: there a linebacker? They see the fits. Guys, I'm gonna

2598
02:11:29,880 --> 02:11:32,000
Speaker 1: piece out and Brian's coming back here. So it was

2599
02:11:32,000 --> 02:11:35,360
Speaker 1: fun to stop by. Probably come back. Sorry, they're gonna

2600
02:11:35,360 --> 02:11:38,520
Speaker 1: need that at Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Yeah, Bill Jones,

2601
02:11:38,640 --> 02:11:41,720
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, David Hellman, Brian brought us is headed in here.

2602
02:11:41,760 --> 02:11:45,040
Speaker 1: The pick is in for the San Francisco forty nine

2603
02:11:45,120 --> 02:11:49,040
Speaker 1: ers here to be followed by Kansas City. And again

2604
02:11:49,120 --> 02:11:52,560
Speaker 1: San Francisco traded down from fifteen with San Diego. San

2605
02:11:52,600 --> 02:11:55,960
Speaker 1: Diego took Melbourne Gordon at fifteen and Kevin Johnson to

2606
02:11:56,080 --> 02:11:59,400
Speaker 1: Houston and now San Francisco. And this is we talked

2607
02:11:59,440 --> 02:12:03,000
Speaker 1: about this with Danny Shelton, just kind of being really logical,

2608
02:12:03,160 --> 02:12:05,760
Speaker 1: making a lot of sense. Armstead is kind of you

2609
02:12:05,880 --> 02:12:07,680
Speaker 1: just hear about that a lot, especially like you mentioned

2610
02:12:07,680 --> 02:12:09,800
Speaker 1: with Justin Smith's future kind of being in limbo. Well,

2611
02:12:09,880 --> 02:12:13,960
Speaker 1: Jim tom Sula. Uh, he's an old NFL europe old

2612
02:12:14,080 --> 02:12:16,640
Speaker 1: NFL Europe guy, great guy by the way. You know,

2613
02:12:16,760 --> 02:12:20,320
Speaker 1: he's got a great story. But to me, they need

2614
02:12:20,400 --> 02:12:22,760
Speaker 1: defensive lineman. I mean that's something you know when you

2615
02:12:22,840 --> 02:12:25,680
Speaker 1: when you talk in Armstead dave like you brought. I

2616
02:12:25,720 --> 02:12:27,200
Speaker 1: didn't put him on the Cowboy, but I didn't have

2617
02:12:27,240 --> 02:12:28,560
Speaker 1: him my board because I thought he was a four

2618
02:12:28,840 --> 02:12:33,040
Speaker 1: three four. He's won, he doesn't. He's scheme specific. He's

2619
02:12:33,040 --> 02:12:35,240
Speaker 1: gonna be when those guys, it's gonna play two gap,

2620
02:12:35,560 --> 02:12:39,960
Speaker 1: talk about two gap, extend, look inside, look outside, disengage,

2621
02:12:40,120 --> 02:12:43,280
Speaker 1: go get the football. Armstead is that type of guy.

2622
02:12:43,360 --> 02:12:45,920
Speaker 1: I think he is a perfect fit. In fact, if

2623
02:12:45,960 --> 02:12:49,680
Speaker 1: he's uh if if that's if he felled a twenty seven.

2624
02:12:50,480 --> 02:12:52,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know if the Cowboys would

2625
02:12:52,240 --> 02:12:55,280
Speaker 1: take him, just because I don't think so. You know,

2626
02:12:55,360 --> 02:12:58,320
Speaker 1: in San Francisco sitting there, they knew at fifteen that

2627
02:12:58,440 --> 02:13:01,480
Speaker 1: Houston was not going to take Armstead at sixteen, so

2628
02:13:01,600 --> 02:13:03,720
Speaker 1: it was a very safe trade down for them, and

2629
02:13:03,760 --> 02:13:05,800
Speaker 1: they pick up a fourth and a fifth. If indeed

2630
02:13:05,920 --> 02:13:08,800
Speaker 1: Armstead is their guy here, And just a note, it's

2631
02:13:08,840 --> 02:13:12,000
Speaker 1: the longest we've gone a first round without a trade,

2632
02:13:12,840 --> 02:13:17,200
Speaker 1: fourteen picks in um, so that's I don't think anyone

2633
02:13:17,240 --> 02:13:19,600
Speaker 1: expected that that that might be. The first while of

2634
02:13:19,680 --> 02:13:21,200
Speaker 1: this draft is the fact that we didn't have a

2635
02:13:21,240 --> 02:13:23,560
Speaker 1: trade the first fourteen picks, all right. And the other

2636
02:13:23,720 --> 02:13:26,400
Speaker 1: big news for San Francisco this offseason, of course, is

2637
02:13:26,440 --> 02:13:31,960
Speaker 1: at the linebacker position, with the retirement of Patrick Willis

2638
02:13:32,080 --> 02:13:34,840
Speaker 1: as well as Chris Borland, who was a third round

2639
02:13:34,880 --> 02:13:36,840
Speaker 1: pick last year and played terrific at the end of

2640
02:13:36,880 --> 02:13:44,800
Speaker 1: the year last year, but inside linebacker. In a Eric

2641
02:13:45,120 --> 02:13:49,680
Speaker 1: Armstead ye job, Dave, pay attention to the draft I paid.

2642
02:13:49,800 --> 02:13:52,440
Speaker 1: I mean you can see that when you start to

2643
02:13:52,480 --> 02:13:54,880
Speaker 1: see the same guy mocked by everybody on earth, and

2644
02:13:55,360 --> 02:13:56,800
Speaker 1: you can kind of see the writing on the wall.

2645
02:13:57,120 --> 02:14:00,240
Speaker 1: So Eric Armstead is a San Francisco forty nine in

2646
02:14:00,440 --> 02:14:03,280
Speaker 1: Kansas City is now on the clock at number eighteen,

2647
02:14:03,480 --> 02:14:05,800
Speaker 1: ten picks away from the Cowboys. You know what you

2648
02:14:05,880 --> 02:14:09,520
Speaker 1: have to think about here, guys is Kevin Johnson. And

2649
02:14:09,640 --> 02:14:11,720
Speaker 1: I was over doing radio with one oh five three

2650
02:14:11,800 --> 02:14:13,640
Speaker 1: and Dane, thank you for help, because I call that

2651
02:14:13,760 --> 02:14:15,680
Speaker 1: I just flat knew you knew you had some good

2652
02:14:15,720 --> 02:14:18,400
Speaker 1: intel on that, and I just said, Houston, this is

2653
02:14:18,480 --> 02:14:21,840
Speaker 1: Kevin Johnson, and sure enough it worked out great. We're

2654
02:14:21,880 --> 02:14:25,000
Speaker 1: starting to see these cornerbacks, so go off the board here.

2655
02:14:25,160 --> 02:14:27,400
Speaker 1: We talked about when you were away, we talked about

2656
02:14:27,440 --> 02:14:29,160
Speaker 1: how these corners are gonna start coming off the board.

2657
02:14:29,160 --> 02:14:31,520
Speaker 1: And our scenario yesterday in the Draft show, when we

2658
02:14:31,560 --> 02:14:34,360
Speaker 1: trade it up to twenty one. If Byron Jones starts us,

2659
02:14:34,800 --> 02:14:36,400
Speaker 1: is he still on the board there in the twenties?

2660
02:14:36,480 --> 02:14:38,360
Speaker 1: Is that's the one you go up and get. How

2661
02:14:38,440 --> 02:14:40,360
Speaker 1: do you feel about that? We're kind of we're getting

2662
02:14:40,400 --> 02:14:43,600
Speaker 1: into territory where I'm not scared. I'm starting to feel

2663
02:14:43,640 --> 02:14:45,520
Speaker 1: confident that maybe they trade. Let me ask you this,

2664
02:14:45,840 --> 02:14:47,120
Speaker 1: all right, we've I know there's been a lot of

2665
02:14:47,160 --> 02:14:50,080
Speaker 1: talk about cornerbacks. Yeah, you hear Jason Garrett talk about

2666
02:14:50,120 --> 02:14:54,440
Speaker 1: the cornerstone of the team is the offensive line, defensive line.

2667
02:14:55,320 --> 02:14:57,760
Speaker 1: How much do you think that they really if they

2668
02:14:57,920 --> 02:15:01,160
Speaker 1: map out how they work this strategy on this draft,

2669
02:15:01,200 --> 02:15:06,200
Speaker 1: they're looking at first go defensive front seven, preferably front

2670
02:15:06,360 --> 02:15:10,200
Speaker 1: front four, then second round running back, then third round

2671
02:15:10,240 --> 02:15:12,640
Speaker 1: corner because the depth of the cornerback position might be

2672
02:15:13,160 --> 02:15:15,320
Speaker 1: greater and the running back position. That's how I mocked

2673
02:15:15,320 --> 02:15:19,360
Speaker 1: it myself today. I took Gregory and then I turned

2674
02:15:19,400 --> 02:15:25,480
Speaker 1: around and drafted, uh, actually went safety instead, and then

2675
02:15:25,600 --> 02:15:29,280
Speaker 1: went safety took. I took the kid from Arizona State. Yeah.

2676
02:15:29,360 --> 02:15:30,960
Speaker 1: But see the thing about is I think you're gonna

2677
02:15:30,960 --> 02:15:32,640
Speaker 1: have to go get Randall. I think we might hear

2678
02:15:32,680 --> 02:15:35,320
Speaker 1: his name today. Yeah, I see, that's what I'm saying.

2679
02:15:35,400 --> 02:15:37,520
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, you can I put him in

2680
02:15:37,600 --> 02:15:39,480
Speaker 1: that round because yeah, you gotta go get this guy.

2681
02:15:39,760 --> 02:15:42,800
Speaker 1: But we're starting to see these corners again. And where's

2682
02:15:42,920 --> 02:15:45,840
Speaker 1: where does Peters fall in your mind? Here? Is he

2683
02:15:46,000 --> 02:15:48,960
Speaker 1: more talented than Jones? And with John Dorsey. I used

2684
02:15:48,960 --> 02:15:52,080
Speaker 1: to work with John Dorsey. John John likes those kind

2685
02:15:52,120 --> 02:15:54,040
Speaker 1: of those guys and the play a little on the

2686
02:15:54,200 --> 02:15:57,360
Speaker 1: edge exactly. And we talk about Marcus Peters being brash

2687
02:15:57,440 --> 02:15:59,720
Speaker 1: and cocky. Yeah, that's not the worst thing that the

2688
02:16:00,040 --> 02:16:03,560
Speaker 1: qualities to have in a corner, but you have as

2689
02:16:03,600 --> 02:16:06,040
Speaker 1: long as you're comfortable with him on the sidelines, off

2690
02:16:06,040 --> 02:16:09,240
Speaker 1: the field, being coachable. This is the center from from

2691
02:16:09,320 --> 02:16:13,200
Speaker 1: Florida State, right, No, no, the city. Oh yeah, well

2692
02:16:13,200 --> 02:16:14,840
Speaker 1: it could be, it could be. It could be urban

2693
02:16:14,960 --> 02:16:18,240
Speaker 1: it could that's another I can convert to center that

2694
02:16:18,360 --> 02:16:22,040
Speaker 1: Kansas City. To me, that that's secondary. You know, I

2695
02:16:22,960 --> 02:16:25,280
Speaker 1: and you did a mock with with Urban yesterday where

2696
02:16:25,360 --> 02:16:28,240
Speaker 1: he was there, where Irvan was was and that's not

2697
02:16:28,440 --> 02:16:30,640
Speaker 1: that's not bad. But I'm starting to wonder about now

2698
02:16:30,760 --> 02:16:34,440
Speaker 1: where does Peters, where does Jones? Because as soon as

2699
02:16:34,560 --> 02:16:37,440
Speaker 1: soon as Johnson went, I was like, you know, chat,

2700
02:16:37,480 --> 02:16:39,240
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're if you're watching the feed here,

2701
02:16:39,400 --> 02:16:41,720
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones has got a pencil and he's fiddling with

2702
02:16:41,840 --> 02:16:43,640
Speaker 1: some kind of chart here on the table. Well, he's

2703
02:16:43,680 --> 02:16:47,280
Speaker 1: talking to Will McClay to his left, Stephen Jones is

2704
02:16:47,560 --> 02:16:50,600
Speaker 1: h is right there as well, so uh that they're

2705
02:16:50,600 --> 02:16:55,640
Speaker 1: all probably talking about maybe uh maybe he as he

2706
02:16:55,800 --> 02:16:57,920
Speaker 1: looks to his as Jerry, as you look at the screeve,

2707
02:16:58,000 --> 02:17:01,280
Speaker 1: Jerry looks to his right at a scificat Todd Williams,

2708
02:17:01,320 --> 02:17:03,160
Speaker 1: who are in charge of the trade chart or to

2709
02:17:03,400 --> 02:17:06,760
Speaker 1: his right, and his personnel's staff is to his left.

2710
02:17:07,320 --> 02:17:10,440
Speaker 1: So right now that's kind of maybe if he looks

2711
02:17:10,480 --> 02:17:13,720
Speaker 1: to his right, he's talking about to them, Okay, what

2712
02:17:13,879 --> 02:17:17,200
Speaker 1: would we have to do trade wise to see how

2713
02:17:17,280 --> 02:17:20,440
Speaker 1: that two works out? Maybe number numbers wise to maybe

2714
02:17:20,480 --> 02:17:22,800
Speaker 1: go get a guy. All Right, you've got Cleveland picking

2715
02:17:22,800 --> 02:17:25,760
Speaker 1: after Kansas City at nineteen, Philly at twenty. They're not

2716
02:17:25,840 --> 02:17:29,360
Speaker 1: a trade partner, right, Maybe they're worried about Philadelphia if

2717
02:17:29,400 --> 02:17:32,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna maybe this corner. I mean, I think if

2718
02:17:32,320 --> 02:17:34,440
Speaker 1: you want to get if you want your pick of

2719
02:17:34,560 --> 02:17:36,280
Speaker 1: the letter, so to speak, I think you have to

2720
02:17:36,320 --> 02:17:38,720
Speaker 1: get in front of the Eagles. Yeah, that that's maybe.

2721
02:17:38,760 --> 02:17:40,440
Speaker 1: And then and then again, Jerry Eagles have a need

2722
02:17:40,520 --> 02:17:44,959
Speaker 1: for safety to safety, and that Jones. Maybe Jones could

2723
02:17:45,000 --> 02:17:47,280
Speaker 1: be in Dane. Correct me if I'm wrong. Byron Jones

2724
02:17:47,360 --> 02:17:51,959
Speaker 1: could be maybe a corner maybe a safety. They signed,

2725
02:17:52,200 --> 02:17:55,959
Speaker 1: They signed Maxwell and Thurman as too off sat a swell.

2726
02:17:56,120 --> 02:17:58,720
Speaker 1: He's a starter, you know, I don't think he's a

2727
02:17:59,400 --> 02:18:02,560
Speaker 1: clear cut starter in this league, but it makes corner

2728
02:18:02,680 --> 02:18:05,320
Speaker 1: not an immediate need, but a direction they could go.

2729
02:18:05,480 --> 02:18:07,760
Speaker 1: And so I you'll just look at Chip Kelly and

2730
02:18:08,000 --> 02:18:11,280
Speaker 1: the homework that he did on some of these cornerback prospects.

2731
02:18:11,560 --> 02:18:13,840
Speaker 1: He went to Utah to see Eric Row, he went

2732
02:18:13,959 --> 02:18:16,680
Speaker 1: to Yukon to see Byron Jones workout. So I think

2733
02:18:16,800 --> 02:18:21,120
Speaker 1: that's you can obviously connect those dots with Kansas City

2734
02:18:21,160 --> 02:18:24,640
Speaker 1: here at eighteen we corner you know, they like those

2735
02:18:24,680 --> 02:18:26,640
Speaker 1: press guys get up in your face with the line

2736
02:18:26,640 --> 02:18:30,480
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, absolutely disrupted the route. Yeah, you know, if

2737
02:18:30,480 --> 02:18:32,280
Speaker 1: you look at the market speeders, if you look at

2738
02:18:32,320 --> 02:18:34,920
Speaker 1: their needs, they they like what they The Gaines kid

2739
02:18:35,040 --> 02:18:38,680
Speaker 1: is somebody they like for the future. Smith will likely

2740
02:18:38,760 --> 02:18:42,000
Speaker 1: services suspension and Cooper was replaced as a starter. So

2741
02:18:42,120 --> 02:18:45,880
Speaker 1: maybe some question marks about really what's going on there

2742
02:18:46,440 --> 02:18:50,240
Speaker 1: at cornerback for the Kansas City Chiefs. So, but I

2743
02:18:50,320 --> 02:18:53,000
Speaker 1: like what you're talking about Bill about the center. I'm

2744
02:18:53,720 --> 02:18:56,920
Speaker 1: they lost Rodney Hudson, right, interesting point. I mean we're

2745
02:18:56,920 --> 02:18:59,560
Speaker 1: getting close to twenty. We've talked. I mean, we mocked

2746
02:18:59,640 --> 02:19:03,320
Speaker 1: trading up for a cornerback yesterday. Budd Pre still there.

2747
02:19:03,760 --> 02:19:08,280
Speaker 1: Would you trade up for him? We talk about I mean,

2748
02:19:08,440 --> 02:19:12,080
Speaker 1: pass rush, pass rush, pass rush. I wonder if I

2749
02:19:12,200 --> 02:19:14,800
Speaker 1: wonder if Bud j Pre sits on their board better

2750
02:19:15,760 --> 02:19:19,720
Speaker 1: than Gregory, Like, what do you feel first round grade? Yeah,

2751
02:19:19,840 --> 02:19:22,600
Speaker 1: first round grade, second round grades. I'm just I'm just

2752
02:19:22,760 --> 02:19:25,080
Speaker 1: wondering which, I know, which one you would take. I

2753
02:19:25,480 --> 02:19:29,120
Speaker 1: didn't think they value higher. It would just be a

2754
02:19:29,200 --> 02:19:32,360
Speaker 1: total guess. Yeah, it really would. I mean, but I

2755
02:19:33,360 --> 02:19:36,560
Speaker 1: loved the character. Would put Dupre of a bubble. I

2756
02:19:36,640 --> 02:19:38,600
Speaker 1: think Bud you Pre is a left defensive end in

2757
02:19:38,640 --> 02:19:42,440
Speaker 1: the scheme would be great. Yeah, I mean I need one. Yeah, okay,

2758
02:19:42,520 --> 02:19:46,240
Speaker 1: but what DeMarcus Lawrence is the left defensive end? Right? Well,

2759
02:19:46,280 --> 02:19:48,600
Speaker 1: I mean it's a rotating system. That's why you're a

2760
02:19:49,320 --> 02:19:52,080
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm looking long term. Okay, yeah. Are

2761
02:19:52,120 --> 02:19:54,959
Speaker 1: you going to continue to rotate a second round pick

2762
02:19:55,000 --> 02:19:56,720
Speaker 1: in a first round pick on the left side? I

2763
02:19:56,840 --> 02:19:59,200
Speaker 1: think so. I think that's the way that rod They

2764
02:19:59,240 --> 02:20:03,120
Speaker 1: do not want the Seattle is the model of taking

2765
02:20:03,640 --> 02:20:07,560
Speaker 1: eight seven or eight guys and then rotating them throughout

2766
02:20:08,160 --> 02:20:12,160
Speaker 1: to try and play exclusively have to be on the

2767
02:20:12,320 --> 02:20:14,760
Speaker 1: left side either they move them around. Right. All right,

2768
02:20:14,800 --> 02:20:19,760
Speaker 1: here comes the commissioner with the picker. With the eighteenth

2769
02:20:19,840 --> 02:20:24,720
Speaker 1: pick in the twenty fifteen NFL drafts, the Kansas City

2770
02:20:24,840 --> 02:20:32,760
Speaker 1: Chiefs select Marcus Peters three, which is I mean, I mean,

2771
02:20:32,800 --> 02:20:35,840
Speaker 1: he's a great he's a talented player, uh, and he

2772
02:20:35,959 --> 02:20:38,400
Speaker 1: fits a need for the Cowboys. But I'm I mean,

2773
02:20:38,520 --> 02:20:40,879
Speaker 1: I never never thought that they really had a shout

2774
02:20:40,920 --> 02:20:42,400
Speaker 1: of getting there. Not sure they would have taken him

2775
02:20:42,400 --> 02:20:45,880
Speaker 1: anyway because of his character concerns. John Dorsey Chris Ballard

2776
02:20:46,400 --> 02:20:51,920
Speaker 1: two personnel guys in this league that I trust. My

2777
02:20:52,000 --> 02:20:56,320
Speaker 1: trust list among NFL evaluators, guys that do their homework,

2778
02:20:56,760 --> 02:20:59,680
Speaker 1: that just they know the game, they know how to scout.

2779
02:21:00,200 --> 02:21:02,200
Speaker 1: Those two guys are high on that list, so that

2780
02:21:02,320 --> 02:21:05,360
Speaker 1: you know they did the homework. Yeah, I worked with

2781
02:21:05,480 --> 02:21:07,760
Speaker 1: John Dorsey. John Dorsey and I in Green Bay together

2782
02:21:08,160 --> 02:21:10,520
Speaker 1: for five years, won a Super Bowl together. You're absolutely

2783
02:21:10,560 --> 02:21:14,200
Speaker 1: right about traded emails with Chris Ballard last night. I uh,

2784
02:21:14,840 --> 02:21:17,200
Speaker 1: and he was about three in the morning and he

2785
02:21:17,240 --> 02:21:19,200
Speaker 1: was still up working. Yeah, it's three in the morning.

2786
02:21:19,360 --> 02:21:21,000
Speaker 1: He emailed me, said go to bed, and I said,

2787
02:21:21,000 --> 02:21:22,880
Speaker 1: I emailed him back and I said, you you first.

2788
02:21:23,160 --> 02:21:25,280
Speaker 1: It's just there's these guys live to do this, and

2789
02:21:25,400 --> 02:21:27,920
Speaker 1: so I think they've done their Homeworker Marcus Peters are

2790
02:21:27,959 --> 02:21:30,760
Speaker 1: comfortable with the player on the field and off the field,

2791
02:21:30,840 --> 02:21:32,440
Speaker 1: all right, Brian, I asked this while you are out

2792
02:21:32,480 --> 02:21:36,240
Speaker 1: of the room. What handful of players are the Cowboys

2793
02:21:36,440 --> 02:21:39,520
Speaker 1: targeting that they would take at twenty seven that's sitting

2794
02:21:39,520 --> 02:21:42,800
Speaker 1: there right now. We're talking about Byron Jones as a guy.

2795
02:21:43,320 --> 02:21:46,400
Speaker 1: I think they're surprised, right, now, I think they're very

2796
02:21:46,520 --> 02:21:52,040
Speaker 1: surprised that that that they that that Budd Dupree is

2797
02:21:52,080 --> 02:21:53,880
Speaker 1: still on that board. That's what I'm saying. I think

2798
02:21:53,920 --> 02:21:56,360
Speaker 1: they're very I think they're very surprised by that. I

2799
02:21:56,560 --> 02:21:59,879
Speaker 1: think that they're very surprised that maybe that DJ Humphreys,

2800
02:22:00,520 --> 02:22:02,840
Speaker 1: I want to say, they've probably got an off a

2801
02:22:02,920 --> 02:22:06,080
Speaker 1: couple of offensive lineman. I know Dane mocked a Bouet

2802
02:22:06,440 --> 02:22:10,560
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys, you know, and Jerry Jones gave you

2803
02:22:10,600 --> 02:22:13,240
Speaker 1: a little bit of there's a scenario where you could

2804
02:22:13,280 --> 02:22:17,720
Speaker 1: see us taking an offensive lineman. I think they're probably

2805
02:22:18,160 --> 02:22:21,920
Speaker 1: surprised by that. With all these linebackers still on the board.

2806
02:22:22,120 --> 02:22:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm talking about McKinney, Kendricks, Thompson. You've also got the

2807
02:22:26,320 --> 02:22:31,160
Speaker 1: corners are still intact. As far as Byron Jones, they're

2808
02:22:31,240 --> 02:22:34,600
Speaker 1: looking at second round corners. I think if that's the case, so,

2809
02:22:34,920 --> 02:22:37,040
Speaker 1: and that's the other thing, all these names you're mentioning,

2810
02:22:37,120 --> 02:22:39,440
Speaker 1: they're not going to be anywhere near their picket in

2811
02:22:39,480 --> 02:22:42,600
Speaker 1: the second round. No, So yeah, if you're sitting there

2812
02:22:42,879 --> 02:22:45,400
Speaker 1: with still a handful of guys that you're willing to

2813
02:22:45,480 --> 02:22:48,240
Speaker 1: take at twenty seven, then that increases the chances of

2814
02:22:48,280 --> 02:22:50,560
Speaker 1: a trade down, because one of those guys would still

2815
02:22:50,560 --> 02:22:52,440
Speaker 1: be there if they trade down a few spots. Right,

2816
02:22:52,680 --> 02:22:54,879
Speaker 1: Jerry and Stephen Jones are up to something here. Yeah,

2817
02:22:54,920 --> 02:22:57,680
Speaker 1: they're looking again. Jerry keeps looking. Steven is trying to

2818
02:22:57,760 --> 02:23:00,879
Speaker 1: explain Steven's trying to keep the picks, and Jerry wants

2819
02:23:00,959 --> 02:23:04,440
Speaker 1: to go. I mean, I've seen this look before. Say,

2820
02:23:04,560 --> 02:23:07,080
Speaker 1: Cleveland is on the clock right now, and so he's

2821
02:23:07,080 --> 02:23:08,960
Speaker 1: trying to figure out a way to get Johnny Manzil

2822
02:23:08,959 --> 02:23:11,440
Speaker 1: out see and Garrett looks like Garrett's trying to figure

2823
02:23:11,480 --> 02:23:14,280
Speaker 1: this out. He's looking like, okay, if we move. Jerry

2824
02:23:14,360 --> 02:23:17,320
Speaker 1: wants to go, and he's feel like he's gonna lose

2825
02:23:17,440 --> 02:23:21,039
Speaker 1: somebody here, and Stevens again trying to talk him into

2826
02:23:21,480 --> 02:23:24,320
Speaker 1: something maybe different. Every time they're looking across the table,

2827
02:23:24,640 --> 02:23:27,520
Speaker 1: Todd Williams is giving him the math. He's figuring out

2828
02:23:27,800 --> 02:23:29,920
Speaker 1: what he would have to take. Now, somebody on the

2829
02:23:30,240 --> 02:23:32,000
Speaker 1: slaves on which side again, he would be as to

2830
02:23:32,200 --> 02:23:34,959
Speaker 1: Jerry's right as you look at the screen, it would

2831
02:23:34,959 --> 02:23:36,880
Speaker 1: be to the left, he said, to the side of

2832
02:23:36,959 --> 02:23:39,720
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett over Charlotte. Yeah, so if they're gonna work

2833
02:23:39,800 --> 02:23:43,560
Speaker 1: the phones working the phones is coming from Steven Jones left.

2834
02:23:43,879 --> 02:23:46,160
Speaker 1: So that's what they're doing. Todd Williams leaning in right

2835
02:23:46,240 --> 02:23:49,880
Speaker 1: there and telling him something. What's going on with the

2836
02:23:50,000 --> 02:23:52,480
Speaker 1: Gary told him a good joke. There's a hearty laugh

2837
02:23:52,560 --> 02:23:56,280
Speaker 1: from Steven Jones there. Yeah, these guys handle this way

2838
02:23:56,360 --> 02:23:57,880
Speaker 1: better than I ever could. I mean, they've been doing

2839
02:23:57,920 --> 02:23:59,800
Speaker 1: it for a quarter century. If you imagine if we're

2840
02:23:59,800 --> 02:24:03,520
Speaker 1: at oh gosh, I'd be running around slamming things on

2841
02:24:03,560 --> 02:24:07,240
Speaker 1: the ground the butt for the Browns here at nineteen UM.

2842
02:24:08,120 --> 02:24:11,320
Speaker 1: For the longest time I mocked Lyle Collins. Here, they'd

2843
02:24:11,360 --> 02:24:13,920
Speaker 1: like Lyle Collins quite a bit. Yeah, obviously now you

2844
02:24:14,000 --> 02:24:16,800
Speaker 1: can't do that right, But I still think offensive line

2845
02:24:16,879 --> 02:24:19,600
Speaker 1: is the direction they want to go. And with Irving

2846
02:24:19,760 --> 02:24:23,440
Speaker 1: on the board still the Chiefs passed Irving could be

2847
02:24:23,560 --> 02:24:26,000
Speaker 1: that pick Alex Mack. You don't know what his feature

2848
02:24:26,080 --> 02:24:31,680
Speaker 1: is at center right tackle? Is a need a versatile guy? Absolutely? Yeah, Yeah,

2849
02:24:31,720 --> 02:24:33,640
Speaker 1: he's played. I'll tell you what. When you watch him play,

2850
02:24:33,760 --> 02:24:35,760
Speaker 1: he's making all the calls and he made him from

2851
02:24:35,760 --> 02:24:38,199
Speaker 1: the left tackle spot. Yeah, he is one of those guys.

2852
02:24:38,600 --> 02:24:41,280
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. You see, he gets pushed, he's

2853
02:24:41,320 --> 02:24:44,840
Speaker 1: able to sustain. Is a good pass blocker, gets a

2854
02:24:44,879 --> 02:24:47,160
Speaker 1: little wide at times with his bass, but I tell

2855
02:24:47,160 --> 02:24:49,320
Speaker 1: you what, he has the power to sit down on people.

2856
02:24:49,640 --> 02:24:52,800
Speaker 1: I think I think Dane's onto something there about him.

2857
02:24:53,000 --> 02:24:55,040
Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's a it's a. When you

2858
02:24:55,160 --> 02:24:58,200
Speaker 1: talk about players that could stand up in that mill,

2859
02:24:58,240 --> 02:25:00,400
Speaker 1: that's the most important thing that when you talk about Jones,

2860
02:25:00,440 --> 02:25:03,040
Speaker 1: the Cowboys keep in the middle of that pocket. Clean

2861
02:25:03,600 --> 02:25:05,520
Speaker 1: Irvan is a guy that makes a lot of sense

2862
02:25:05,600 --> 02:25:08,320
Speaker 1: to me if they were a receiver for Cleveland here.

2863
02:25:09,160 --> 02:25:11,320
Speaker 1: Brashad Perraman is a player they've done work on and

2864
02:25:11,520 --> 02:25:13,960
Speaker 1: I mocked actually in my mock I had him taking

2865
02:25:13,959 --> 02:25:16,800
Speaker 1: Breshad Perraman at nineteen, but Irving was off the board

2866
02:25:16,800 --> 02:25:19,760
Speaker 1: in that scenario. So I think with could use a rusher.

2867
02:25:20,240 --> 02:25:22,000
Speaker 1: I mean, there could be a rusher here too. Yeah.

2868
02:25:22,120 --> 02:25:23,840
Speaker 1: I think Cleveland fans are gonna be a little upset

2869
02:25:23,920 --> 02:25:26,560
Speaker 1: if they pass on Bud dupre here. Yeah. But I

2870
02:25:26,640 --> 02:25:29,960
Speaker 1: don't disagree with you about the about the the center

2871
02:25:30,360 --> 02:25:32,440
Speaker 1: because I think he can. Yeah, he's the best center

2872
02:25:32,480 --> 02:25:35,200
Speaker 1: in the draft and the only center in this draft

2873
02:25:35,240 --> 02:25:37,360
Speaker 1: you really feel comfortable with saying he's gonna start for

2874
02:25:37,400 --> 02:25:40,160
Speaker 1: a long time. Yeah, I totally I totally agree on that.

2875
02:25:40,320 --> 02:25:41,920
Speaker 1: And if you get him a little earlier than you

2876
02:25:42,000 --> 02:25:43,680
Speaker 1: want to, I mean, it worked out well for the

2877
02:25:43,760 --> 02:25:46,800
Speaker 1: Cowboys two years ago and he would play right tackle. Well,

2878
02:25:46,879 --> 02:25:50,720
Speaker 1: Mitchell Schwartz is their right tackle. Yeah, he's going to

2879
02:25:51,040 --> 02:25:52,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know where he's gonna play

2880
02:25:52,440 --> 02:25:56,080
Speaker 1: because Mitchell Schwartz is the incumbent. He's a free agent

2881
02:25:56,120 --> 02:25:58,280
Speaker 1: after the year. So I think Irving's your long term

2882
02:25:58,320 --> 02:26:01,880
Speaker 1: starter right at Botonio, at guard in Greco Greco, I

2883
02:26:01,959 --> 02:26:04,360
Speaker 1: think that's where you're going to see a competition between

2884
02:26:04,480 --> 02:26:07,160
Speaker 1: Irving and Greco. Well, the the rumor is they want

2885
02:26:07,160 --> 02:26:10,640
Speaker 1: to do something with Swarts to trying to the right

2886
02:26:10,760 --> 02:26:13,199
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, at right tackle. Yeah, I think Irving

2887
02:26:13,200 --> 02:26:15,160
Speaker 1: while have a chance every opportunity to earn that right

2888
02:26:15,200 --> 02:26:19,000
Speaker 1: tackle job. It'll be tough to supplant h Schwartz, who's

2889
02:26:19,240 --> 02:26:22,720
Speaker 1: been in the league for three years now. But Alex

2890
02:26:22,800 --> 02:26:26,920
Speaker 1: Mack too. They're worried about Alex mack Is future in Cleveland.

2891
02:26:27,000 --> 02:26:29,520
Speaker 1: How long will he be there? So uh, But Irving

2892
02:26:29,600 --> 02:26:32,160
Speaker 1: that's what he brings. He brings that versatility, play tackle,

2893
02:26:32,360 --> 02:26:35,720
Speaker 1: play center. He can play guards. So m this pick

2894
02:26:35,760 --> 02:26:37,640
Speaker 1: would not surprise me if it ends up being that's

2895
02:26:37,680 --> 02:26:40,560
Speaker 1: the voice of Dame Brugler right there, CBS Sports, you

2896
02:26:40,640 --> 02:26:43,840
Speaker 1: got brought us, you got David Hellman. I'm Bill Jones,

2897
02:26:44,040 --> 02:26:47,440
Speaker 1: as Cleveland is on the clock. Should be getting the

2898
02:26:47,480 --> 02:26:50,240
Speaker 1: pick in here pretty soon. He's in. Yeah, just waiting.

2899
02:26:50,400 --> 02:26:52,840
Speaker 1: They keep showing the Cleveland war room here. I you know,

2900
02:26:54,120 --> 02:26:56,520
Speaker 1: if you're Cleveland and you come out of this just straft,

2901
02:26:56,680 --> 02:26:59,039
Speaker 1: especially in the first round with Danny Shelton, and then

2902
02:26:59,120 --> 02:27:02,000
Speaker 1: you got Irving who you're talking about, and you're talking

2903
02:27:02,040 --> 02:27:04,640
Speaker 1: about the best nose tackle in the draft, talking about

2904
02:27:04,640 --> 02:27:07,440
Speaker 1: six hundred and fifty pounds, talk about the polar opposite

2905
02:27:07,480 --> 02:27:10,039
Speaker 1: of the madness we were thinking they might pull off

2906
02:27:10,040 --> 02:27:13,160
Speaker 1: a couple hours ago. Oh with Mario. With Mario, and

2907
02:27:13,200 --> 02:27:16,320
Speaker 1: it's going something to watch way smarter in my opinion, exactly.

2908
02:27:16,760 --> 02:27:21,480
Speaker 1: You build in the trenches, scar scary GM, smart GM,

2909
02:27:21,840 --> 02:27:24,600
Speaker 1: logical GM. Now you build from the inside out. And

2910
02:27:24,720 --> 02:27:27,360
Speaker 1: that's what they're doing. You haven't even given your troubled

2911
02:27:27,440 --> 02:27:30,120
Speaker 1: quarterback more than like three quarters to prove he can

2912
02:27:30,200 --> 02:27:33,200
Speaker 1: even do anything. Picks in all right, here we go

2913
02:27:33,800 --> 02:27:38,440
Speaker 1: Roger with the nineteenth pick in the twenty fifteen NFL Draft,

2914
02:27:39,400 --> 02:27:43,760
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Brown select Cameron Irving. Here you go? Are

2915
02:27:43,840 --> 02:27:48,880
Speaker 1: you go? I have Irving, Florida State. Now Philadelphia at

2916
02:27:49,000 --> 02:27:52,760
Speaker 1: number twenty. This feels like a big one. I don't know, No,

2917
02:27:53,160 --> 02:27:59,160
Speaker 1: it really does. I mean, Okay, Pittsburgh and Baltimore need cornerbacks. Ideally,

2918
02:27:59,240 --> 02:28:01,760
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboy always would like a cornerback. If

2919
02:28:01,879 --> 02:28:05,520
Speaker 1: Philly takes Byron Jones right here, then it screws up

2920
02:28:05,520 --> 02:28:07,520
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. But I could see him trading

2921
02:28:07,560 --> 02:28:09,320
Speaker 1: into that twenty one spot if they wanted to, If

2922
02:28:09,360 --> 02:28:12,400
Speaker 1: that was something they Whether it's for Bud Dupree, whether

2923
02:28:12,440 --> 02:28:14,000
Speaker 1: it's for Byron Jones, I don't know. But what the

2924
02:28:14,080 --> 02:28:16,000
Speaker 1: Eagles do right here could dictate a lot about what

2925
02:28:16,040 --> 02:28:18,840
Speaker 1: happens with the Cowboy. Cincinnati's at number twenty one, followed

2926
02:28:18,879 --> 02:28:21,160
Speaker 1: by Pittsburgh. Yeah, we mocked it. We mocked it where

2927
02:28:21,200 --> 02:28:25,560
Speaker 1: they traded to Cincinnati. We're smart guys. Yeah, Well, to

2928
02:28:25,640 --> 02:28:29,280
Speaker 1: take Kevin Johnson not a guy, true, but this might

2929
02:28:29,320 --> 02:28:32,240
Speaker 1: be to take Byron Jones. If if if, if, if,

2930
02:28:32,560 --> 02:28:36,440
Speaker 1: if fact Philadelphia passes here, then you know you got

2931
02:28:36,560 --> 02:28:38,200
Speaker 1: to think about that. I mean, if you can get

2932
02:28:38,640 --> 02:28:41,360
Speaker 1: And I said, no, that's what I said yesterday in

2933
02:28:41,360 --> 02:28:44,440
Speaker 1: the mock draft. And and it's college Cincinnati. Sometimes you

2934
02:28:44,520 --> 02:28:47,200
Speaker 1: hear crickets, you know, it's like they just kind of

2935
02:28:47,200 --> 02:28:49,120
Speaker 1: haven't paid their phone bill. Well they do. They do

2936
02:28:49,240 --> 02:28:51,600
Speaker 1: their own little thing over there. And so sometimes you're

2937
02:28:51,879 --> 02:28:53,640
Speaker 1: you're kind of at the mercy when when you know

2938
02:28:53,760 --> 02:28:56,880
Speaker 1: you have to trade to somebody in Philadelphia. Is that team?

2939
02:28:57,560 --> 02:29:00,560
Speaker 1: Excuse me a Cincinnati's that team? You kind of like

2940
02:29:00,680 --> 02:29:03,720
Speaker 1: you're thinking, ah, this is just not going to work out. Um,

2941
02:29:05,360 --> 02:29:12,640
Speaker 1: look at the needs here though, safety guard, wide receiver, Philadelphia, Philadelphia.

2942
02:29:13,240 --> 02:29:15,960
Speaker 1: What do you think I mean? Could this be? Could

2943
02:29:16,040 --> 02:29:19,280
Speaker 1: this be? We see Collins? Would they take Collins here?

2944
02:29:19,280 --> 02:29:23,600
Speaker 1: It's possibility. Unfortunately its Randall's a possibility. Collins as a possibility.

2945
02:29:23,600 --> 02:29:25,120
Speaker 1: And this is a bad timing. But I have to

2946
02:29:25,160 --> 02:29:27,880
Speaker 1: go run and do writer stuff, help out Nick Eatman

2947
02:29:27,920 --> 02:29:31,160
Speaker 1: and Rob Phillips while they handle TV business. But I

2948
02:29:31,240 --> 02:29:32,720
Speaker 1: hope I can. I hope I can make it back

2949
02:29:32,720 --> 02:29:34,600
Speaker 1: in come all about boys pick. I will do my best,

2950
02:29:35,120 --> 02:29:37,080
Speaker 1: but I'll talk to you all down the line. David

2951
02:29:37,160 --> 02:29:41,119
Speaker 1: Helman's read his fine work here right here on Dallas

2952
02:29:41,160 --> 02:29:44,400
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com. So we got a division rival on

2953
02:29:44,560 --> 02:29:48,959
Speaker 1: the clock. Earlier at number five, Washington took Brandon Schurf,

2954
02:29:49,240 --> 02:29:52,360
Speaker 1: the offensive lineman from Iowa, and the Giants at number

2955
02:29:52,440 --> 02:29:58,199
Speaker 1: nine took Eric Flowers, a tackle from Miami and now Philadelphia.

2956
02:29:59,080 --> 02:30:01,840
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, where's Chip Kelly come from?

2957
02:30:02,480 --> 02:30:05,440
Speaker 1: Where is where is his background? So you got to

2958
02:30:05,480 --> 02:30:07,760
Speaker 1: think about these with coaches. This is really his first

2959
02:30:07,840 --> 02:30:12,480
Speaker 1: time with the controls of the personnel department. Here where

2960
02:30:12,959 --> 02:30:16,680
Speaker 1: when Jimmy Johnson, Bill, you're recovering Jimmy Johnson, the players

2961
02:30:16,760 --> 02:30:19,039
Speaker 1: that that he knew. He was coming from a college

2962
02:30:19,120 --> 02:30:23,600
Speaker 1: program evaluating and in Miami was I think was a

2963
02:30:23,680 --> 02:30:25,800
Speaker 1: biggie was a Big East team at the time though,

2964
02:30:25,840 --> 02:30:29,280
Speaker 1: but maybe he didn't draft, but he knew the college program,

2965
02:30:29,560 --> 02:30:31,320
Speaker 1: he knew him very well. I think that you have

2966
02:30:31,480 --> 02:30:34,320
Speaker 1: to think about when you're looking at these coaches, especially

2967
02:30:34,480 --> 02:30:39,600
Speaker 1: ones that are running personnel departments now, they will gravitate

2968
02:30:39,800 --> 02:30:44,760
Speaker 1: towards areas that they know, you know, and I mean

2969
02:30:44,920 --> 02:30:47,560
Speaker 1: where you're going with this. I'm trying to say, think

2970
02:30:47,600 --> 02:30:51,000
Speaker 1: about I'm thinking about like PAC twelve players, sure, I'm

2971
02:30:51,080 --> 02:30:54,680
Speaker 1: thinking about if you you know, well, yeah, that's what

2972
02:30:54,680 --> 02:30:58,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Oh okay, sorry, okay, but I'm thinking about

2973
02:30:58,760 --> 02:31:01,440
Speaker 1: like PAC twelve guys. I mean, that's something you have

2974
02:31:01,600 --> 02:31:04,680
Speaker 1: to think about when you have somebody that's running these departments,

2975
02:31:05,000 --> 02:31:07,560
Speaker 1: when you're going into the draft and you're saying receiver,

2976
02:31:08,760 --> 02:31:11,640
Speaker 1: it could one much strong in Arizona State. I'm thinking

2977
02:31:11,640 --> 02:31:17,640
Speaker 1: another PAC twelve receiver. You're thinking Agyar one of those

2978
02:31:17,760 --> 02:31:20,040
Speaker 1: weapons that Chip Kelly would just love to get his

2979
02:31:20,080 --> 02:31:23,520
Speaker 1: hands on. You know, he's just kind of steady, h

2980
02:31:23,600 --> 02:31:26,560
Speaker 1: he wants a playmaker, and so I think, and who

2981
02:31:26,600 --> 02:31:30,920
Speaker 1: did he lose Jeremy Macklin. Yeah, right, this guy type player.

2982
02:31:31,000 --> 02:31:33,720
Speaker 1: They they drafted Jordan Matthews in the second round last year. Yes,

2983
02:31:33,879 --> 02:31:37,600
Speaker 1: Aglare is more of a Macklin type player. Is that yah?

2984
02:31:37,879 --> 02:31:42,040
Speaker 1: I think that's a very apt comparison. Yeah. I just

2985
02:31:42,240 --> 02:31:45,760
Speaker 1: think that when you start talking about coaches and that

2986
02:31:45,840 --> 02:31:50,000
Speaker 1: they're they're new running the department, especially young young as

2987
02:31:50,080 --> 02:31:53,560
Speaker 1: far as NFL, they go to things that they understand,

2988
02:31:53,680 --> 02:31:57,360
Speaker 1: they've seen guys play. That's where I mean. And I

2989
02:31:57,920 --> 02:32:01,360
Speaker 1: think that you know, you look at those Pack twelve guys,

2990
02:32:02,080 --> 02:32:04,320
Speaker 1: that just makes some mean. But they could go again,

2991
02:32:04,400 --> 02:32:09,040
Speaker 1: They could go safety, they could go guard here, But

2992
02:32:09,160 --> 02:32:10,600
Speaker 1: who would be you know, I mean, who would be

2993
02:32:10,640 --> 02:32:13,480
Speaker 1: the offensive lineman that you would like? I mean maybe, well,

2994
02:32:13,480 --> 02:32:17,360
Speaker 1: and if you're the Cowboys, you're I think you don't

2995
02:32:17,400 --> 02:32:20,200
Speaker 1: like to see if Ogilore is the pick? Where is

2996
02:32:20,240 --> 02:32:21,760
Speaker 1: you a little bit? But I think you're happy that

2997
02:32:21,840 --> 02:32:24,560
Speaker 1: it's not Byron Jones because that gives you one more option? Well,

2998
02:32:24,600 --> 02:32:27,959
Speaker 1: who would you rather see? You see strong? See strong?

2999
02:32:28,160 --> 02:32:31,680
Speaker 1: Then I'm saying more along the line petitive standpoint. Yeah,

3000
02:32:31,840 --> 02:32:34,960
Speaker 1: at twenty seven options for you. I don't think Nelson

3001
02:32:35,000 --> 02:32:36,440
Speaker 1: Ogilore was a player you were going to take a

3002
02:32:36,480 --> 02:32:39,640
Speaker 1: twenty seven. So you're happy to see, uh if that

3003
02:32:39,800 --> 02:32:41,880
Speaker 1: ends up being the pick, I think that that makes

3004
02:32:41,879 --> 02:32:43,840
Speaker 1: you happy that it's not going to be Byron Jones

3005
02:32:43,959 --> 02:32:46,160
Speaker 1: or a player that you would consider a Bud Dupree

3006
02:32:46,520 --> 02:32:48,040
Speaker 1: who is still on the board. And we're in the

3007
02:32:48,120 --> 02:32:50,960
Speaker 1: twenties now, Yeah, I think that you know, to me,

3008
02:32:52,040 --> 02:32:55,920
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly, he's dismantled his offensive. If you look at

3009
02:32:55,959 --> 02:33:00,400
Speaker 1: the weapons, McCoy, macklin, you know who is who are

3010
02:33:00,400 --> 02:33:02,920
Speaker 1: they throwing the ball to? Who are those? You know?

3011
02:33:03,040 --> 02:33:06,000
Speaker 1: Who is the runner? They went and got a runner?

3012
02:33:06,640 --> 02:33:08,600
Speaker 1: You know? Now they think, Okay, how can we help

3013
02:33:08,680 --> 02:33:11,400
Speaker 1: whoever plays who are runners? Yeah, whoever could play quarterback?

3014
02:33:11,400 --> 02:33:13,560
Speaker 1: That's what you're trying to do. How can you help

3015
02:33:13,600 --> 02:33:16,520
Speaker 1: the quarterback? Plus in that offense that you've won as

3016
02:33:16,600 --> 02:33:19,240
Speaker 1: many receivers as you can get your hands right, Yeah,

3017
02:33:19,360 --> 02:33:22,600
Speaker 1: I agree with that. Come on in, makes a lot

3018
02:33:22,640 --> 02:33:25,480
Speaker 1: of sense there. Steve Dennis is making his way here,

3019
02:33:25,600 --> 02:33:28,960
Speaker 1: got into the got the pictures of the ABC studio.

3020
02:33:29,080 --> 02:33:37,440
Speaker 1: Here we go the commission, the Philadelphia Eagles selector Nelson

3021
02:33:40,200 --> 02:33:44,840
Speaker 1: all over this drap Hey. Brian mentioned the Pac twelve connection. Yeah,

3022
02:33:45,320 --> 02:33:48,520
Speaker 1: you know, going going back to what you know, going

3023
02:33:48,640 --> 02:33:52,480
Speaker 1: back to what you're comfortable with. Yeah, Chip Kelly in

3024
02:33:52,560 --> 02:33:54,800
Speaker 1: that in that Pac twelve he lost Jeremy Macklin. So

3025
02:33:54,840 --> 02:33:57,480
Speaker 1: we get to Jeremy Macklin like receiver here at twenty

3026
02:33:57,840 --> 02:34:01,480
Speaker 1: Nelson Ogilor. He's not necessarily a game breaker, is not

3027
02:34:01,640 --> 02:34:04,680
Speaker 1: necessarily a possession guy. He's just an all around solid player,

3028
02:34:04,720 --> 02:34:07,000
Speaker 1: a guy that you have to really game plan for

3029
02:34:07,280 --> 02:34:09,320
Speaker 1: if you're the Cowboys and rest of the division. Bad

3030
02:34:09,400 --> 02:34:12,000
Speaker 1: news for the Cowboys they have to face Aglore. Good

3031
02:34:12,080 --> 02:34:14,080
Speaker 1: news for the Cowboys in this draft. That is not

3032
02:34:14,160 --> 02:34:16,039
Speaker 1: a player they would have taken in the first round.

3033
02:34:16,080 --> 02:34:18,000
Speaker 1: You no, I don't think the guys are still on

3034
02:34:18,080 --> 02:34:21,680
Speaker 1: the board. Yeah, but when you watch USC tape, this guy,

3035
02:34:21,959 --> 02:34:24,720
Speaker 1: they line him up all over the formation, They throw

3036
02:34:25,000 --> 02:34:27,120
Speaker 1: screens to him, they throw it down the field to him,

3037
02:34:27,120 --> 02:34:29,640
Speaker 1: they run reverses with him. You know, Chip Kelly, I

3038
02:34:29,720 --> 02:34:31,520
Speaker 1: guarantee is going to do a lot of the same

3039
02:34:31,760 --> 02:34:36,199
Speaker 1: things that they did that Steve Sarkissian did at USC

3040
02:34:36,680 --> 02:34:38,400
Speaker 1: to try and get the football in his hands. This

3041
02:34:38,520 --> 02:34:40,320
Speaker 1: guy's I'll tell you what, there's a lot of people

3042
02:34:40,440 --> 02:34:42,760
Speaker 1: think of talk about one of the best route runners

3043
02:34:42,959 --> 02:34:46,640
Speaker 1: in this draft. Nelson Aguilar is one of those guys,

3044
02:34:47,120 --> 02:34:49,840
Speaker 1: and to me, he reminded me a lot of Marquis Lee,

3045
02:34:50,480 --> 02:34:55,640
Speaker 1: another former USC receiver, But with aglare the production outstanding.

3046
02:34:55,760 --> 02:34:58,280
Speaker 1: One of the few receivers who went triple digits and

3047
02:34:58,360 --> 02:35:01,800
Speaker 1: catches last year in the FBS. A player that's just

3048
02:35:01,959 --> 02:35:05,360
Speaker 1: on all around, solid, solid, solid option here for the Eagles.

3049
02:35:05,400 --> 02:35:07,600
Speaker 1: So you have to feel if you're the Cowboys, you

3050
02:35:07,680 --> 02:35:10,560
Speaker 1: hate to have to face him twice a year. But again, uh,

3051
02:35:10,879 --> 02:35:13,000
Speaker 1: like Bill said, it's it's an option that you weren't

3052
02:35:13,000 --> 02:35:15,720
Speaker 1: gonna go at twenty seven so a player may be

3053
02:35:15,879 --> 02:35:18,920
Speaker 1: moving back that you might want to get Budd Dupres

3054
02:35:18,959 --> 02:35:21,000
Speaker 1: still there Byron Jones is still on the on the board,

3055
02:35:21,600 --> 02:35:24,760
Speaker 1: Gregory's still there all right, Steve Dennis, how are you

3056
02:35:24,879 --> 02:35:29,880
Speaker 1: doing six picks away Gregory raid discussion? Yeah, I mean

3057
02:35:30,160 --> 02:35:33,000
Speaker 1: is gonna come into play? I think I think it'll

3058
02:35:33,040 --> 02:35:35,560
Speaker 1: be interesting to see what if Bud Dupre in fact

3059
02:35:35,720 --> 02:35:38,560
Speaker 1: is involved in this as well. The outside line or

3060
02:35:38,600 --> 02:35:42,199
Speaker 1: defensive end from Kentucky. This is something that we didn't

3061
02:35:42,240 --> 02:35:45,880
Speaker 1: feel like that he was gonna slide this far. And

3062
02:35:46,440 --> 02:35:48,240
Speaker 1: so I think he was one of the guys that

3063
02:35:48,280 --> 02:35:51,240
Speaker 1: Cowboys brought in, Yes, exactly. So yeah, I think that

3064
02:35:51,360 --> 02:35:55,480
Speaker 1: you have to hum who will be higher on their board?

3065
02:35:55,760 --> 02:35:59,480
Speaker 1: Will Gregory be higher than Dupre, will be higher than

3066
02:36:00,240 --> 02:36:03,520
Speaker 1: uh than Shane Ray here? And so I think that's

3067
02:36:03,560 --> 02:36:07,200
Speaker 1: what they like, those defensive ends better than a Malcolm Brown,

3068
02:36:08,600 --> 02:36:11,119
Speaker 1: I think so bestial like Eddie Goldman. Yeah, I think

3069
02:36:11,160 --> 02:36:13,600
Speaker 1: that they. I think they view Malcolm Brown like as

3070
02:36:13,640 --> 02:36:16,200
Speaker 1: a one technique. I don't think they would take a

3071
02:36:16,320 --> 02:36:19,240
Speaker 1: one technique. I think Carl Davis, they've seen on tape

3072
02:36:19,520 --> 02:36:22,880
Speaker 1: at Iowa play in both the the three and playing

3073
02:36:22,959 --> 02:36:27,200
Speaker 1: the one. So I don't know Cincinnati on the cunny one. Yeah,

3074
02:36:27,200 --> 02:36:28,640
Speaker 1: do we have any ideas about what this might be?

3075
02:36:28,840 --> 02:36:33,039
Speaker 1: That's your you've mocked about offensive linemen. I think offensive

3076
02:36:33,080 --> 02:36:34,640
Speaker 1: line is where they wanted to go. You look at

3077
02:36:35,320 --> 02:36:37,720
Speaker 1: left tackle, right tackle. They can use some upgrades there

3078
02:36:37,840 --> 02:36:41,920
Speaker 1: long term. Um so who Humphreys is still available? And

3079
02:36:42,000 --> 02:36:43,880
Speaker 1: this I think this was the first spot we looked at.

3080
02:36:44,680 --> 02:36:48,720
Speaker 1: A Boohe big possibility. Yeah, and I think that's it's

3081
02:36:48,800 --> 02:36:52,400
Speaker 1: it's a very possible uh marriage here for the Bengals

3082
02:36:52,440 --> 02:36:55,000
Speaker 1: and a Boohey if that's the direction they decide to go. Yeah,

3083
02:36:55,040 --> 02:36:56,720
Speaker 1: they're a little bit different in the way they look

3084
02:36:56,760 --> 02:36:59,280
Speaker 1: at these linemens. So yeah, and they've always they've done

3085
02:36:59,280 --> 02:37:02,080
Speaker 1: a nice job though of kind of grabbing those sec

3086
02:37:02,440 --> 02:37:05,520
Speaker 1: lineman as well over the years. But I agree with

3087
02:37:05,640 --> 02:37:07,760
Speaker 1: you about the problem I have with a Boohe is

3088
02:37:07,800 --> 02:37:11,680
Speaker 1: though the health you know where where you know where

3089
02:37:11,840 --> 02:37:14,400
Speaker 1: is he on his recovery right now? And with a

3090
02:37:14,520 --> 02:37:17,360
Speaker 1: boo it's not just the ACL he's been banged up

3091
02:37:17,720 --> 02:37:20,440
Speaker 1: his entire career. He's he's dealt with nagging issues. So

3092
02:37:20,600 --> 02:37:23,320
Speaker 1: their ability is something you have to factor in. Yeah,

3093
02:37:25,520 --> 02:37:27,800
Speaker 1: all right, I think the Jones kid is sort of

3094
02:37:27,879 --> 02:37:30,920
Speaker 1: this year shazier at this point that they're nervously hoping

3095
02:37:31,040 --> 02:37:36,400
Speaker 1: that he Well, what's what's gonna be interesting is if

3096
02:37:36,520 --> 02:37:40,720
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh who Pittsburgh takes and and they have two big

3097
02:37:40,800 --> 02:37:45,840
Speaker 1: needs pass rush corner that yeah, to me, see that's

3098
02:37:45,879 --> 02:37:48,200
Speaker 1: where that's where you look at Pittsburgh and they can

3099
02:37:48,360 --> 02:37:51,280
Speaker 1: say they could take the outside linebacker and they seem

3100
02:37:51,320 --> 02:37:53,760
Speaker 1: to always take a guy ahead of the Cowboys that

3101
02:37:53,879 --> 02:37:57,400
Speaker 1: they like. But I think, to me, you have to

3102
02:37:57,520 --> 02:38:00,800
Speaker 1: be and looking just ahead. I think a booie. I

3103
02:38:00,840 --> 02:38:04,480
Speaker 1: think that's a that's a possibility there, and then I

3104
02:38:04,560 --> 02:38:07,880
Speaker 1: would worry about Jones or bud Dupree going to Pittsburgh.

3105
02:38:08,520 --> 02:38:12,199
Speaker 1: I think they would be okay if Pittsburgh did take

3106
02:38:12,640 --> 02:38:15,560
Speaker 1: bud Dupree. I think they would be okay with that

3107
02:38:15,680 --> 02:38:18,240
Speaker 1: because I don't think they expected it to be so

3108
02:38:18,320 --> 02:38:20,480
Speaker 1: they did. Well. They're getting a little more nervous in here.

3109
02:38:20,560 --> 02:38:25,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Junior's pacing and it's more intense. It's just

3110
02:38:25,200 --> 02:38:27,760
Speaker 1: like it was last year before their pick came. So

3111
02:38:28,080 --> 02:38:33,280
Speaker 1: they're they're sweating something they're feeling pretty good about. Yeah, yeah,

3112
02:38:33,680 --> 02:38:36,760
Speaker 1: we're staying there. Now, who do we say on Cincinnati's

3113
02:38:37,000 --> 02:38:39,080
Speaker 1: pick is in what we say about their needs. Again,

3114
02:38:39,160 --> 02:38:41,320
Speaker 1: we thought it was going to be offensive linemen here

3115
02:38:41,360 --> 02:38:44,560
Speaker 1: that Yeah, they've got Whitworth and Andre Smith at the

3116
02:38:44,600 --> 02:38:47,720
Speaker 1: tackle position to veterans, both about to be free agents. Yeah,

3117
02:38:47,760 --> 02:38:49,800
Speaker 1: we're thirty four years old. If he's in the long

3118
02:38:49,879 --> 02:38:53,199
Speaker 1: term future, I think it's that guard safety, Yeah, George

3119
02:38:53,240 --> 02:38:55,720
Speaker 1: Iloka and Reggie Nelson and no safety off the board

3120
02:38:55,800 --> 02:38:58,960
Speaker 1: yet well tied end offensive tackle, you know, and then

3121
02:38:59,080 --> 02:39:03,560
Speaker 1: safety were the three that Collins is there. Yeah, I

3122
02:39:04,400 --> 02:39:07,960
Speaker 1: just think I think I think Danish, right, whoever it

3123
02:39:08,000 --> 02:39:09,720
Speaker 1: could be. It could be Humphries, it could be a

3124
02:39:09,760 --> 02:39:12,760
Speaker 1: buoy I think it's gonna be an offensive tackle here. Again,

3125
02:39:12,800 --> 02:39:15,800
Speaker 1: they do not want to pay guys they traditionally that's

3126
02:39:15,879 --> 02:39:17,960
Speaker 1: not there, and that's fine with the Cowboys if they

3127
02:39:18,000 --> 02:39:20,600
Speaker 1: take those guys. Yeah, in my mock draft, I had

3128
02:39:20,600 --> 02:39:23,560
Speaker 1: them taking Eric Flowers, but obviously that's not Flowers has

3129
02:39:23,600 --> 02:39:26,160
Speaker 1: gone long gone by this point, So I think the

3130
02:39:26,280 --> 02:39:30,240
Speaker 1: next likely possibilities of Boohy, that's who I think we saw.

3131
02:39:30,320 --> 02:39:32,960
Speaker 1: There's a connection there, and again a buoy is coming

3132
02:39:33,000 --> 02:39:35,720
Speaker 1: off at acl Texas a and m product out of

3133
02:39:35,760 --> 02:39:39,120
Speaker 1: Alan High School. Probably a top ten pick. Yeah, the

3134
02:39:39,400 --> 02:39:41,720
Speaker 1: al and we're talking below the way. It says a

3135
02:39:41,800 --> 02:39:45,040
Speaker 1: lot about him that he's being considered the first horrific feat.

3136
02:39:45,120 --> 02:39:47,440
Speaker 1: You love the fluidity, you love the change of direction

3137
02:39:47,520 --> 02:39:49,920
Speaker 1: for a big man like that upper body. You worry

3138
02:39:49,959 --> 02:39:52,040
Speaker 1: about the hand placement, you worry about the technique. He

3139
02:39:52,160 --> 02:39:54,200
Speaker 1: needs work. Here we go, We got the commissioner here.

3140
02:39:55,800 --> 02:39:58,720
Speaker 1: We're the twenty first pick in the two thy fifteen

3141
02:39:58,879 --> 02:40:07,240
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, the Cincinnati Bengals st Cedric. They nailed it.

3142
02:40:07,480 --> 02:40:16,360
Speaker 1: He has studied this draft. I crammed last night, where

3143
02:40:16,400 --> 02:40:18,880
Speaker 1: did you have dupri By the way, why is he sliding?

3144
02:40:19,320 --> 02:40:21,600
Speaker 1: You have him? And in your mock? Where did I

3145
02:40:21,680 --> 02:40:23,840
Speaker 1: have him? I had him early, had him six. Yeah,

3146
02:40:23,840 --> 02:40:29,160
Speaker 1: that's what's going on with him. That is a good question.

3147
02:40:29,320 --> 02:40:32,480
Speaker 1: I don't talking talking to some teams. They I know

3148
02:40:32,600 --> 02:40:37,200
Speaker 1: some teams had him as a second round player. Yeah, great, No,

3149
02:40:37,520 --> 02:40:41,240
Speaker 1: And you just you wonder about did teams see him

3150
02:40:41,240 --> 02:40:42,800
Speaker 1: as a three four backer? They see him as a

3151
02:40:42,840 --> 02:40:44,240
Speaker 1: four three? And do they see him as a guy

3152
02:40:44,280 --> 02:40:45,840
Speaker 1: that can play both? Do they see him as a

3153
02:40:45,879 --> 02:40:48,320
Speaker 1: guy that's maybe a tweener. I think that's something that

3154
02:40:48,400 --> 02:40:50,879
Speaker 1: an opinion it's going to be different team to team

3155
02:40:51,160 --> 02:40:55,320
Speaker 1: depending on who you talk to. But with the Steelers

3156
02:40:55,360 --> 02:40:57,520
Speaker 1: on the clock, now, I think this is where you

3157
02:40:57,600 --> 02:41:01,080
Speaker 1: look at Bud dupre. Yeah, this Budd Dupree, he's not.

3158
02:41:01,480 --> 02:41:04,039
Speaker 1: The Steelers are one of those teams that always cleans

3159
02:41:04,120 --> 02:41:08,080
Speaker 1: up the mess. Somebody slides down the board. It happened

3160
02:41:08,080 --> 02:41:09,920
Speaker 1: to us one time in the draft room. Kendrell Bell

3161
02:41:10,240 --> 02:41:13,680
Speaker 1: we took we took Quincy Carter, and we had Kendrell

3162
02:41:13,760 --> 02:41:16,760
Speaker 1: Bell as a first round grade at linebacker and the

3163
02:41:16,959 --> 02:41:20,840
Speaker 1: very ORGI yeah, the very next pick, they took Kendrill

3164
02:41:20,879 --> 02:41:22,960
Speaker 1: Bell and he made They made AFC Rookie of the

3165
02:41:23,040 --> 02:41:25,920
Speaker 1: Defensive Rookie of the Year. So that just shows you

3166
02:41:26,080 --> 02:41:28,480
Speaker 1: right there, the Steelers do a great job of draft.

3167
02:41:28,560 --> 02:41:32,440
Speaker 1: And I just don't I just don't see Budd Dupreet slide.

3168
02:41:32,640 --> 02:41:35,039
Speaker 1: He was the tenth best player on my board. All right,

3169
02:41:35,120 --> 02:41:38,320
Speaker 1: here's what they've got on their depth chart at outside linebacker,

3170
02:41:38,520 --> 02:41:42,600
Speaker 1: Arthur Moates, who was unrestricted free action from Buffalo, James

3171
02:41:42,680 --> 02:41:45,160
Speaker 1: Harrison and Jarvis Jones, of course, was a first round

3172
02:41:45,200 --> 02:41:47,680
Speaker 1: draft pick two years ago. And you hate to call

3173
02:41:48,280 --> 02:41:50,760
Speaker 1: h you hate to use the bust word, but he's

3174
02:41:50,800 --> 02:41:54,080
Speaker 1: not listed first team there. James Jarvis Jones has been

3175
02:41:54,120 --> 02:41:56,680
Speaker 1: a bus for a top two Georgie kid. Right, yeah, yeah,

3176
02:41:57,080 --> 02:41:59,320
Speaker 1: see that's what I think that, Like I said, when

3177
02:41:59,320 --> 02:42:02,520
Speaker 1: you look at theirs according to my deal, cornerback, we

3178
02:42:02,680 --> 02:42:06,560
Speaker 1: talked about Jones being a potential there. But the outside

3179
02:42:06,600 --> 02:42:09,600
Speaker 1: linebacker rusher, you know that that would be need number

3180
02:42:09,640 --> 02:42:13,840
Speaker 1: two in safety. Being the fact that they lost Troy Polamalou.

3181
02:42:14,080 --> 02:42:16,120
Speaker 1: I think that you know that you'd have to say

3182
02:42:16,560 --> 02:42:19,240
Speaker 1: that that Collins could be a guy here. But I

3183
02:42:19,400 --> 02:42:23,480
Speaker 1: just Budd Dupre of all the guys that are left. Again,

3184
02:42:23,560 --> 02:42:26,199
Speaker 1: Brian brought his tenth best player on his top fifty.

3185
02:42:26,680 --> 02:42:28,800
Speaker 1: Bud Dupre makes a hell of a lot of sense

3186
02:42:28,879 --> 02:42:32,400
Speaker 1: for me at that outside linebacker spot that could be

3187
02:42:32,480 --> 02:42:35,520
Speaker 1: a rusher. And Dupres for me was eighteen on my board.

3188
02:42:35,600 --> 02:42:37,400
Speaker 1: So we're getting into the area where I think he

3189
02:42:37,520 --> 02:42:40,160
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. Um, it's hard to find

3190
02:42:40,200 --> 02:42:42,680
Speaker 1: players that are better than Dupris at this point, especially

3191
02:42:42,720 --> 02:42:46,240
Speaker 1: pass rushers right a position we know that not too

3192
02:42:46,320 --> 02:42:48,520
Speaker 1: many teams are set and say and we don't need

3193
02:42:48,560 --> 02:42:51,840
Speaker 1: a pass rusher. So pick is in for Pittsburgh. Be

3194
02:42:51,959 --> 02:42:55,440
Speaker 1: interesting to see what they do here. Landon Collins is

3195
02:42:55,480 --> 02:42:59,160
Speaker 1: a guy safety from Alabama who's sliding on down here.

3196
02:42:59,160 --> 02:43:02,240
Speaker 1: It's like, though I did that Landing Collins is wrong.

3197
02:43:02,480 --> 02:43:05,400
Speaker 1: He's a strong safety. Yeah, that's where you know, if

3198
02:43:05,400 --> 02:43:07,120
Speaker 1: you want to drive, if you want a guy, I'd

3199
02:43:07,120 --> 02:43:09,840
Speaker 1: play him an outside linebacker if it was me. Definitely

3200
02:43:09,879 --> 02:43:13,720
Speaker 1: in your nickels him, put him as an outside linebacker. Buchanon. Yeah,

3201
02:43:13,720 --> 02:43:18,200
Speaker 1: they're to start exactly exactly. Yeah, the Steelers, and they're

3202
02:43:18,200 --> 02:43:20,520
Speaker 1: showing a graphic here about the secondary and guys that

3203
02:43:20,959 --> 02:43:24,440
Speaker 1: that they've you know, that they've gone through and stuff. Now,

3204
02:43:24,520 --> 02:43:26,840
Speaker 1: so yeah, I think along those lines with Landon Collins,

3205
02:43:26,920 --> 02:43:29,880
Speaker 1: there's the role that you have for him his rookie year,

3206
02:43:30,120 --> 02:43:34,000
Speaker 1: and then he becomes your strong safety. I mean even

3207
02:43:34,360 --> 02:43:36,680
Speaker 1: when you've got to in the Cowboys situation, you got

3208
02:43:36,720 --> 02:43:40,440
Speaker 1: two safeties in Church and Wilcox. But but the Cowboys

3209
02:43:40,520 --> 02:43:43,080
Speaker 1: have been in search of that free safety forever. Yes,

3210
02:43:43,480 --> 02:43:46,080
Speaker 1: And and the free safety might come from a kid

3211
02:43:46,160 --> 02:43:48,840
Speaker 1: at Arizona State, Marius Rand. Yeah, that might be the

3212
02:43:48,920 --> 02:43:51,400
Speaker 1: best free safety. And depending on you know, if you

3213
02:43:51,480 --> 02:43:54,880
Speaker 1: want to move some guys around. But he's got some

3214
02:43:55,000 --> 02:43:58,279
Speaker 1: corner skills too. Absolutely, he does yeah, I'm in the Nickel. Absolutely.

3215
02:43:58,280 --> 02:44:00,160
Speaker 1: We talked about the safety class. If you don't get

3216
02:44:00,200 --> 02:44:02,200
Speaker 1: your safety early, you're not getting your safety in this

3217
02:44:02,320 --> 02:44:05,480
Speaker 1: class in just a weak position. So that's why landing

3218
02:44:05,520 --> 02:44:08,440
Speaker 1: Collins the Marius Randall good chance. We could hear their

3219
02:44:08,520 --> 02:44:12,000
Speaker 1: names here shortly in the first round, later part of

3220
02:44:12,040 --> 02:44:17,080
Speaker 1: the first round. Yeah, they're just kind of talking about

3221
02:44:17,120 --> 02:44:18,959
Speaker 1: things right now. This pick's been in for a while though,

3222
02:44:19,000 --> 02:44:22,160
Speaker 1: hadn't in as it are they still on the clock.

3223
02:44:23,080 --> 02:44:24,640
Speaker 1: I felt like that they had already the pick had

3224
02:44:24,640 --> 02:44:28,360
Speaker 1: been in. There is in, Yeah, and they're making their way.

3225
02:44:28,840 --> 02:44:33,840
Speaker 1: Here comes the commissioner with the twenty second pick in

3226
02:44:33,920 --> 02:44:40,840
Speaker 1: the twenty fifteen NFL Draft, the Pittsburgh Steelers select Bud Dupris.

3227
02:44:41,560 --> 02:44:44,640
Speaker 1: We go, mine, there we go. We wasn't gonna slide

3228
02:44:44,760 --> 02:44:47,840
Speaker 1: much longer now, sure wasn't sure. Wasn't at all perfect

3229
02:44:47,879 --> 02:44:51,640
Speaker 1: pick for Pittsburgh right there, considering their situation at outside linebacker.

3230
02:44:53,000 --> 02:44:57,000
Speaker 1: So Detroit is up. It's Detroit, followed by Arizona at

3231
02:44:57,040 --> 02:45:01,000
Speaker 1: twenty four, Carolina twenty five, Baltimore twenty and then Dallas.

3232
02:45:01,080 --> 02:45:05,640
Speaker 1: So four picks before the Cowboys. Now this is interesting.

3233
02:45:05,959 --> 02:45:12,640
Speaker 1: Twenty three, the Lions. We have a trade. Yeah, yeah,

3234
02:45:12,920 --> 02:45:16,480
Speaker 1: Denver's now on the clock. So who's Denver going up

3235
02:45:16,520 --> 02:45:19,240
Speaker 1: to get ahead of Arizona. It's either a tackle or

3236
02:45:19,480 --> 02:45:22,680
Speaker 1: it's uh someone on defense. It's it's it's a v

3237
02:45:22,760 --> 02:45:25,120
Speaker 1: it's got to be a defensive player. They've got age

3238
02:45:25,640 --> 02:45:29,320
Speaker 1: at that at their you know, maybe could this be

3239
02:45:29,440 --> 02:45:32,280
Speaker 1: where they're talking about, you know, uh looking at a

3240
02:45:32,320 --> 02:45:35,000
Speaker 1: guy what was outside linebacker? They lost the pre just

3241
02:45:35,240 --> 02:45:39,680
Speaker 1: then maybe who would be the next best uh edge

3242
02:45:39,959 --> 02:45:43,440
Speaker 1: rusher that's potentially could be an outside linebacker? Did they

3243
02:45:43,440 --> 02:45:47,800
Speaker 1: feel good about Randy Gregory, about Shane How about Shane Ray?

3244
02:45:49,959 --> 02:45:51,840
Speaker 1: I had that in my mock draft. So did you yeah,

3245
02:45:51,840 --> 02:45:55,720
Speaker 1: you'd be all for that? Yeah? I think. I mean,

3246
02:45:55,879 --> 02:45:57,800
Speaker 1: to me, you've got to look at if you're if

3247
02:45:57,840 --> 02:46:01,440
Speaker 1: you're there. They obviously would when in when Bud Dupree

3248
02:46:01,520 --> 02:46:04,800
Speaker 1: went off, they're thinking about, okay, wait, we can't lose

3249
02:46:04,879 --> 02:46:07,640
Speaker 1: the next best guy, so let me see here. And

3250
02:46:07,680 --> 02:46:11,000
Speaker 1: I think the bigger concern for teams and outside rusher,

3251
02:46:11,240 --> 02:46:12,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that would be one of Denver's needs if

3252
02:46:12,959 --> 02:46:14,800
Speaker 1: they go on the close. The incident for Shane Ray

3253
02:46:14,920 --> 02:46:18,040
Speaker 1: this week is not something that is a concern. I

3254
02:46:18,080 --> 02:46:20,200
Speaker 1: don't think the NFL team. It's one of those things

3255
02:46:20,240 --> 02:46:22,200
Speaker 1: where if you were on the fence with Shane Ray,

3256
02:46:22,680 --> 02:46:26,200
Speaker 1: it worries you a little bit. But if you if

3257
02:46:26,240 --> 02:46:28,760
Speaker 1: you know his background, it's not the greatest background to

3258
02:46:28,840 --> 02:46:32,560
Speaker 1: begin with. And what sets up really interesting though two here, guys,

3259
02:46:32,760 --> 02:46:36,360
Speaker 1: is with Detroit now getting out of that pick, that

3260
02:46:36,560 --> 02:46:38,680
Speaker 1: was a team that could looked at a cornerback. Ye,

3261
02:46:39,080 --> 02:46:42,080
Speaker 1: so you know you look at with with the pick

3262
02:46:42,200 --> 02:46:45,840
Speaker 1: now going to Denver, you know, not needing a quarterback,

3263
02:46:45,920 --> 02:46:48,200
Speaker 1: but that takes Detroit out of the mix, puts them

3264
02:46:48,480 --> 02:46:53,560
Speaker 1: behind Dallas at twenty eight. So that's gotta be something

3265
02:46:53,600 --> 02:46:55,600
Speaker 1: that you gotta maybe dodge a little bit of a

3266
02:46:55,680 --> 02:46:58,120
Speaker 1: bullet there Detroit not making a pick. We have the

3267
02:46:58,280 --> 02:47:01,760
Speaker 1: terms of the trade. What Denver I have not. I've

3268
02:47:01,840 --> 02:47:04,280
Speaker 1: not seen that. I've not seen that. It was a

3269
02:47:04,360 --> 02:47:08,000
Speaker 1: small move, small move from twenty eight to twenty three.

3270
02:47:08,760 --> 02:47:11,520
Speaker 1: On the third, let's see what they think. My man

3271
02:47:11,680 --> 02:47:15,200
Speaker 1: Dave Helmet took off and left our lefty. Bill. You

3272
02:47:15,280 --> 02:47:17,880
Speaker 1: got that right in front of you there. Let's see Baltom.

3273
02:47:18,080 --> 02:47:21,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Denver six sixty moved up to seven sixty.

3274
02:47:21,600 --> 02:47:26,120
Speaker 1: So one hundred points, so they would be a fourth

3275
02:47:26,400 --> 02:47:30,320
Speaker 1: early fourth and yeah, late third. So thirty two thirty

3276
02:47:30,320 --> 02:47:32,080
Speaker 1: two would that be the number that they would go with.

3277
02:47:32,120 --> 02:47:35,880
Speaker 1: A hundred is is the value to move up? So

3278
02:47:36,000 --> 02:47:38,400
Speaker 1: they just need one hundred points there, Yeah, and that's

3279
02:47:38,480 --> 02:47:42,680
Speaker 1: one thirty two for their third round pick. What was

3280
02:47:42,720 --> 02:47:44,560
Speaker 1: the what was in the trade to go up two

3281
02:47:44,600 --> 02:47:46,720
Speaker 1: spots to get Gordon? We never saw it. What did

3282
02:47:46,760 --> 02:47:50,640
Speaker 1: they get? That was fifth? Next year? Right? The fifth

3283
02:47:50,680 --> 02:47:53,360
Speaker 1: win next Yeah, fifth win next year? I believe it

3284
02:47:53,440 --> 02:47:56,680
Speaker 1: is what it was. So anyway, but uh yeah, that's

3285
02:47:56,800 --> 02:47:59,400
Speaker 1: uh all right. So so the players, the Cowboys are

3286
02:47:59,440 --> 02:48:04,280
Speaker 1: looking at right now, which what guys are they? That's

3287
02:48:04,440 --> 02:48:08,000
Speaker 1: Byron Jones is their guy right now? What's the pecking

3288
02:48:08,200 --> 02:48:12,959
Speaker 1: order you think? I think that that Byron Jones would

3289
02:48:12,959 --> 02:48:15,800
Speaker 1: be their number one guy left on the corners of

3290
02:48:15,879 --> 02:48:19,960
Speaker 1: the PJ. Williams, Byron Jones, Okay, Jalen cons and Derby.

3291
02:48:20,000 --> 02:48:22,400
Speaker 1: I think that would be their order. Did Byron Jones

3292
02:48:22,480 --> 02:48:25,680
Speaker 1: have a first round grade? Yes? He did? Well, I

3293
02:48:25,760 --> 02:48:28,040
Speaker 1: mean on my board he did. I don't know about

3294
02:48:28,120 --> 02:48:31,240
Speaker 1: their board. What do you think? Well, let's put it

3295
02:48:31,320 --> 02:48:34,000
Speaker 1: this way. Randy Gregory, who we think is a first

3296
02:48:34,080 --> 02:48:37,760
Speaker 1: round player, right, and Byron Jones are there? Which at direction?

3297
02:48:37,800 --> 02:48:39,240
Speaker 1: Do you think the Cowboys although you had him in

3298
02:48:39,320 --> 02:48:41,080
Speaker 1: the second round, I had, I had Gregory in the

3299
02:48:41,200 --> 02:48:44,280
Speaker 1: second round, I'd second, i'd second round, and well, I

3300
02:48:44,320 --> 02:48:46,640
Speaker 1: think Gregory and Jones are both two guys that you

3301
02:48:46,720 --> 02:48:49,000
Speaker 1: can see some first round you see second round. I

3302
02:48:49,600 --> 02:48:51,560
Speaker 1: think those guys are very close. So if it comes

3303
02:48:51,600 --> 02:48:54,600
Speaker 1: down to Byron Jones or Randy Gregory, I don't feel

3304
02:48:54,600 --> 02:48:56,960
Speaker 1: confident picking one or the other. Yeah, for the Cowboys,

3305
02:48:57,200 --> 02:48:59,800
Speaker 1: I think they might, which is why they're not doing anything.

3306
02:49:02,600 --> 02:49:07,520
Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown at defensive tackle, Humphreys and what about the

3307
02:49:07,600 --> 02:49:10,840
Speaker 1: Harold kid? Eli Harold there's another name. See, I just

3308
02:49:10,959 --> 02:49:14,400
Speaker 1: don't think that they would. I think the highest I

3309
02:49:15,760 --> 02:49:18,080
Speaker 1: just believe, Yeah, I believe the highest rated guy on

3310
02:49:18,120 --> 02:49:21,920
Speaker 1: their board potentially if you just talk about top ten player.

3311
02:49:22,360 --> 02:49:26,040
Speaker 1: Here's the terms of the trade. Two fifths and Manny Ramirez,

3312
02:49:26,080 --> 02:49:28,680
Speaker 1: so a player oh Texas, a fifth this year, a

3313
02:49:28,760 --> 02:49:33,039
Speaker 1: fifth next year, and a guard. So does that key

3314
02:49:33,160 --> 02:49:36,160
Speaker 1: in on who they're taking here? So interesting Denver, a

3315
02:49:36,280 --> 02:49:38,920
Speaker 1: team that needed some O line helped traded away an

3316
02:49:38,959 --> 02:49:44,600
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, probably for defense. Yeah, I just think that

3317
02:49:44,720 --> 02:49:49,080
Speaker 1: to me, it's any of these linebackers the Cowboys would

3318
02:49:49,120 --> 02:49:51,400
Speaker 1: consider at twenty seven. Those are the wild cards. I

3319
02:49:51,480 --> 02:49:53,360
Speaker 1: think that's a direction where if you get wiped out,

3320
02:49:53,440 --> 02:49:56,320
Speaker 1: then you look at the linebackers and if they go,

3321
02:49:56,800 --> 02:50:01,280
Speaker 1: I think McKinney, Shack Thompson, Um Kendrick. I think you know,

3322
02:50:01,400 --> 02:50:04,280
Speaker 1: it's anyone's guests which linebacker they would prefer at that point.

3323
02:50:05,680 --> 02:50:11,880
Speaker 1: Broncos selection. Here we go. The commission Mary Mayans have

3324
02:50:12,000 --> 02:50:16,400
Speaker 1: traded the twenty third pick to the Denver Broncos. With

3325
02:50:16,600 --> 02:50:19,240
Speaker 1: the twenty third pick in the two thousand and fifteen

3326
02:50:19,400 --> 02:50:27,120
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, the Denver Broncos select Shane Ray to get him.

3327
02:50:27,240 --> 02:50:31,520
Speaker 1: Once again, Brugler is on his game, Jane Ray to

3328
02:50:31,560 --> 02:50:35,040
Speaker 1: the Broncos. Brian said it too. It's uh, Shane Ray.

3329
02:50:35,160 --> 02:50:37,560
Speaker 1: It's it's a little risky. But they went up and

3330
02:50:37,600 --> 02:50:40,840
Speaker 1: got him a player that a week ago we had

3331
02:50:41,000 --> 02:50:43,240
Speaker 1: mocked in the top ten. Yeah, now you get him

3332
02:50:43,240 --> 02:50:45,760
Speaker 1: at twenty three. Now, when we look back at this

3333
02:50:45,879 --> 02:50:48,080
Speaker 1: a few years from now, it could be a heck

3334
02:50:48,160 --> 02:50:50,400
Speaker 1: of a value. Could look like they gave up a

3335
02:50:50,440 --> 02:50:52,480
Speaker 1: little too much to go get a player with some

3336
02:50:52,560 --> 02:50:55,440
Speaker 1: red flax. Okay, Now, what does Minnesota want with the

3337
02:50:55,520 --> 02:50:59,440
Speaker 1: twenty fourth pick? Arizona Arizona Minnesota, here comes, here comes

3338
02:50:59,520 --> 02:51:02,880
Speaker 1: the bag d Tred What does Minnesota want with I

3339
02:51:02,920 --> 02:51:06,720
Speaker 1: think Arizona Arizona is gonna stand in there and make

3340
02:51:06,760 --> 02:51:10,039
Speaker 1: a pick. I don't think they docet went to San

3341
02:51:10,080 --> 02:51:12,680
Speaker 1: Francisco and free Yeah, I think they haven't. I don't

3342
02:51:12,720 --> 02:51:16,440
Speaker 1: think they resigned Tommy Kelly. So defensive line, yeah, I

3343
02:51:16,480 --> 02:51:19,760
Speaker 1: think outside Brown doesn't fit in the three four. Well,

3344
02:51:19,800 --> 02:51:24,760
Speaker 1: here here's possible needs. It's outside linebacker, offensive line, inside linebacker.

3345
02:51:25,320 --> 02:51:30,680
Speaker 1: So I think that to me, Arizona has always struggled

3346
02:51:30,800 --> 02:51:34,440
Speaker 1: with their offensive line. That's a team. Yeah, I mean

3347
02:51:34,480 --> 02:51:39,680
Speaker 1: I can up in North Carolina. Yeah, I cam Irving

3348
02:51:39,760 --> 02:51:42,200
Speaker 1: was a player I thought made a lot of sense there.

3349
02:51:42,240 --> 02:51:44,960
Speaker 1: But obviously he's off the board. So who would be

3350
02:51:45,040 --> 02:51:49,120
Speaker 1: the best tackle on your board? Still, Dan Humphries, Yeah,

3351
02:51:50,240 --> 02:51:53,480
Speaker 1: that makes Humphries. Could they go guard with can? Would

3352
02:51:53,520 --> 02:51:56,240
Speaker 1: that be a surprise shock pick? It would be a surprise.

3353
02:51:56,360 --> 02:51:58,920
Speaker 1: That's a little early. Cowboys would be fine with that. Yeah,

3354
02:51:59,080 --> 02:52:01,280
Speaker 1: they're fine with Humphrey too. And if you talk about

3355
02:52:01,320 --> 02:52:06,760
Speaker 1: outside linebackers, Kendricks Thompson, those kind of guys. I just

3356
02:52:06,920 --> 02:52:10,160
Speaker 1: think that they they've already got in Buchanan. See I

3357
02:52:10,240 --> 02:52:13,320
Speaker 1: think Thompson right now to start off with, especially in

3358
02:52:13,360 --> 02:52:16,240
Speaker 1: the three, well, three four, he'd playing inside, I guess,

3359
02:52:16,520 --> 02:52:21,160
Speaker 1: but he's I think his rookie year, he's your nickel linebacker.

3360
02:52:22,040 --> 02:52:24,920
Speaker 1: As I'm picturing him here in Dallas, he would be

3361
02:52:25,240 --> 02:52:28,360
Speaker 1: right in the nickel and as he works his way

3362
02:52:28,400 --> 02:52:30,600
Speaker 1: into the lean playmaker. What do you guys think the

3363
02:52:30,640 --> 02:52:33,440
Speaker 1: Cowboys are going through right now? Three picks away? Are

3364
02:52:33,520 --> 02:52:36,120
Speaker 1: they looking at trading down? No? Already, No, I don't

3365
02:52:36,120 --> 02:52:39,920
Speaker 1: think so. Is there a chance they're looking to we

3366
02:52:40,080 --> 02:52:43,320
Speaker 1: might be over rating Byron Jones on their board. It's possible, Yeah,

3367
02:52:43,360 --> 02:52:45,880
Speaker 1: we might. We might be overrating with Byron Jones is

3368
02:52:45,920 --> 02:52:49,440
Speaker 1: on their board. I think they like Malcolm Brown. I

3369
02:52:49,520 --> 02:52:51,080
Speaker 1: just have a feeling they like. I don't see them

3370
02:52:51,160 --> 02:52:54,879
Speaker 1: taking a look at him as versatile, but he's really

3371
02:52:55,360 --> 02:52:57,640
Speaker 1: he plays as really the best as a one technique.

3372
02:52:58,240 --> 02:52:59,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I agree, he's versatile. I think he could

3373
02:52:59,760 --> 02:53:02,920
Speaker 1: play anywhere from the zero to five realistically, But the

3374
02:53:03,000 --> 02:53:05,720
Speaker 1: Cowboys obviously they don't have him as a one in

3375
02:53:05,800 --> 02:53:08,400
Speaker 1: a three. They have him pegged I think probably as

3376
02:53:08,400 --> 02:53:10,760
Speaker 1: A one. I think they probably do, and so isn't

3377
02:53:10,800 --> 02:53:13,440
Speaker 1: the rule though, if you don't have anybody left on

3378
02:53:13,640 --> 02:53:17,560
Speaker 1: your first round board that you get out, it's possible.

3379
02:53:18,000 --> 02:53:19,880
Speaker 1: Is it possible they don't have a bad left but

3380
02:53:20,040 --> 02:53:23,119
Speaker 1: they're picking second round guys anyway at twenty seven? Yeah,

3381
02:53:23,959 --> 02:53:28,280
Speaker 1: there's only there's not typically eighteen first round grade. Yeah, right,

3382
02:53:28,720 --> 02:53:31,680
Speaker 1: so so you're picking a round guy anyway. When when

3383
02:53:32,320 --> 02:53:34,520
Speaker 1: the noise was made about Travis Frederick, well they had

3384
02:53:34,560 --> 02:53:37,800
Speaker 1: a second round grade on him? Well, yeah, because yeah,

3385
02:53:37,840 --> 02:53:39,960
Speaker 1: there are first round very few first round first round

3386
02:53:40,000 --> 02:53:44,280
Speaker 1: grades ended before twenty Yeah. I'm just if you, if

3387
02:53:44,280 --> 02:53:46,480
Speaker 1: you're the Cowboys, are you thinking about moving up a

3388
02:53:46,520 --> 02:53:48,440
Speaker 1: few spots to get a guy that you're I'm wondering

3389
02:53:48,480 --> 02:53:51,760
Speaker 1: if it's Byron Jones, Byron Jone? Yeah, Randy Gregory, Well,

3390
02:53:52,080 --> 02:53:54,400
Speaker 1: do you move up a little bit to get him? Guarantee? Well,

3391
02:53:54,440 --> 02:53:57,960
Speaker 1: the team's between you now, Baltimore twenty six worries me.

3392
02:53:58,560 --> 02:53:59,720
Speaker 1: I think they have a lot of the same needs.

3393
02:53:59,800 --> 02:54:02,920
Speaker 1: Could go corner, could go pass Rusher. So do you

3394
02:54:03,080 --> 02:54:05,880
Speaker 1: move up two spots to get to Carolina? I think

3395
02:54:05,959 --> 02:54:08,320
Speaker 1: I think they're sitting. I think they're gonna sit this one.

3396
02:54:08,400 --> 02:54:11,520
Speaker 1: I don't see. I don't see. I'd see Carolina is

3397
02:54:11,560 --> 02:54:13,240
Speaker 1: standing in there and making a pick. And if if

3398
02:54:13,320 --> 02:54:16,520
Speaker 1: that's the case, then that tells you that they feel

3399
02:54:16,600 --> 02:54:20,520
Speaker 1: comfortable with multiple guys here. They feel comfortable with multiple

3400
02:54:20,560 --> 02:54:26,120
Speaker 1: players who okay, who behind them? Who behind them could

3401
02:54:26,200 --> 02:54:29,400
Speaker 1: jump them and get and get Jones of the of

3402
02:54:29,480 --> 02:54:31,560
Speaker 1: the guys left. I mean, you look at the teams

3403
02:54:31,760 --> 02:54:36,720
Speaker 1: New England, US, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Green Bay, Indianapolis, and Detroit.

3404
02:54:37,600 --> 02:54:40,720
Speaker 1: Detroit's behind you and they could use a corner. But

3405
02:54:40,920 --> 02:54:44,520
Speaker 1: I just don't see. The only team I see potentially

3406
02:54:44,720 --> 02:54:47,519
Speaker 1: diving out or getting out of there could be Baltimore.

3407
02:54:47,720 --> 02:54:49,720
Speaker 1: I think Carolina stands in there and makes a pick.

3408
02:54:50,400 --> 02:54:55,800
Speaker 1: I really do. Well, we've talked about DJ Humphries for Carolina,

3409
02:54:56,040 --> 02:54:58,320
Speaker 1: but if he goes off the board here at Arizona,

3410
02:54:59,200 --> 02:55:03,840
Speaker 1: maybe things for Carolina. Yeah, well, well let's see who

3411
02:55:03,879 --> 02:55:07,640
Speaker 1: this Arizona pick is if it ever gets announced. Somebody

3412
02:55:07,720 --> 02:55:14,040
Speaker 1: just said something hilariously funny in the Cowboys room. Well

3413
02:55:14,040 --> 02:55:16,160
Speaker 1: I think that again. I think they're talking about Randy

3414
02:55:16,200 --> 02:55:19,600
Speaker 1: Gregory on the draft ship. Yeah, yeah, if they're listening,

3415
02:55:19,920 --> 02:55:22,320
Speaker 1: you think they're listening. I just think that. You know, Steven,

3416
02:55:22,400 --> 02:55:24,760
Speaker 1: you hear that those idiots are talking about Randy Gregor.

3417
02:55:25,240 --> 02:55:27,240
Speaker 1: They haven't even mentioned the guy that we're talking about.

3418
02:55:28,879 --> 02:55:33,000
Speaker 1: Look at you know the other thing when you're considering

3419
02:55:33,080 --> 02:55:38,280
Speaker 1: either Byron Jones or Gregory, just the difference in makeup

3420
02:55:38,360 --> 02:55:41,680
Speaker 1: of the of the two players, take the position away

3421
02:55:41,720 --> 02:55:44,640
Speaker 1: and all that. I mean, it's a squeaky clean Byron

3422
02:55:44,760 --> 02:55:47,640
Speaker 1: Jones thirty three on the wonderlick? Is that what it wasn't?

3423
02:55:48,200 --> 02:55:51,280
Speaker 1: And then Gregory is sitting there with a he didn't

3424
02:55:51,320 --> 02:55:56,040
Speaker 1: know who Darren Woodson was though that ye can't be

3425
02:55:56,160 --> 02:56:00,520
Speaker 1: that smart? Which is better value Dane greg at this point,

3426
02:56:00,720 --> 02:56:03,600
Speaker 1: Gregory or Jones. Gregory or Jones if they if they

3427
02:56:03,680 --> 02:56:05,920
Speaker 1: both get to twenty seven. And I've been on record

3428
02:56:06,000 --> 02:56:08,640
Speaker 1: from the start of this draft that Gregory's going to

3429
02:56:08,720 --> 02:56:12,280
Speaker 1: be a bust. Yeah, well he's already been busted. Yeah

3430
02:56:13,680 --> 02:56:17,400
Speaker 1: with Gregory, if you're I like him. I like Gregory

3431
02:56:17,400 --> 02:56:20,400
Speaker 1: I the talent better, but I also like him better

3432
02:56:20,440 --> 02:56:25,440
Speaker 1: in a three four now if man on a good day,

3433
02:56:26,160 --> 02:56:31,160
Speaker 1: now can he play strong side linebacker? And like the

3434
02:56:31,240 --> 02:56:39,520
Speaker 1: Vikings fifteen NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select dj Humphrey.

3435
02:56:39,640 --> 02:56:41,680
Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah, one of you called that. Who

3436
02:56:41,800 --> 02:56:45,360
Speaker 1: called that brought us? We're talking him. They both they

3437
02:56:45,440 --> 02:56:48,440
Speaker 1: just nail every pick, it's all they do. So now

3438
02:56:48,520 --> 02:56:52,320
Speaker 1: we're talking with uh two picks away. Yeah, and I

3439
02:56:52,680 --> 02:56:55,400
Speaker 1: told you guys, I think Carolina stands in there. I

3440
02:56:55,480 --> 02:56:57,600
Speaker 1: think so too. I think, so what do they need? Well,

3441
02:56:57,840 --> 02:57:01,520
Speaker 1: and we look at offensive line, we look at defense,

3442
02:57:01,640 --> 02:57:05,760
Speaker 1: and on defense, they've brought in a few players. Uh,

3443
02:57:06,760 --> 02:57:11,400
Speaker 1: Shack Thompson, a linebacker who could be a Thomas Davis

3444
02:57:11,480 --> 02:57:16,080
Speaker 1: type of player for them. Yeah, Carolina looking at offensive tackle, safety,

3445
02:57:16,240 --> 02:57:20,680
Speaker 1: wide receiver, linebacker would be uh something in the sub

3446
02:57:20,800 --> 02:57:24,320
Speaker 1: they're looking for, like a sub linebacker, right. Jack Thompson

3447
02:57:24,400 --> 02:57:27,040
Speaker 1: makes some sense played as a sub backer they brought.

3448
02:57:27,240 --> 02:57:30,160
Speaker 1: They brought him in, and so I think you have

3449
02:57:30,280 --> 02:57:33,280
Speaker 1: to keep that in mind. Safety's a possibility here. But

3450
02:57:33,560 --> 02:57:35,720
Speaker 1: now I'm with you. I think if they're not gonna

3451
02:57:35,720 --> 02:57:38,320
Speaker 1: go offensive line with with DJ Humphries, I think DJ

3452
02:57:38,440 --> 02:57:41,160
Speaker 1: Humphries would have been the pick. Yeah, Charlotte native, they

3453
02:57:41,240 --> 02:57:44,000
Speaker 1: need offensive line help. Um, But with him off the

3454
02:57:44,040 --> 02:57:46,800
Speaker 1: board here at Arizona, I agree. I think Shack Thompson

3455
02:57:46,879 --> 02:57:48,959
Speaker 1: makes some sense. And I think some Cowboys fans would

3456
02:57:48,959 --> 02:57:51,760
Speaker 1: be uh more than okay with Shack Thompson going off

3457
02:57:51,800 --> 02:57:55,440
Speaker 1: the board. So you got Malcolm Brown, Byron Jones, and

3458
02:57:55,680 --> 02:58:00,160
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory. I'm sitting I'm I mean Dallas. I mean,

3459
02:58:00,200 --> 02:58:03,760
Speaker 1: they could try and be aggressive here and and maybe

3460
02:58:03,840 --> 02:58:07,040
Speaker 1: make Baltimore. But I think they're gonna get their guy,

3461
02:58:07,879 --> 02:58:10,520
Speaker 1: depending on who their guy here. It's on the phone. Yeah,

3462
02:58:11,280 --> 02:58:14,000
Speaker 1: I mean they might, they might be see I think

3463
02:58:14,120 --> 02:58:16,520
Speaker 1: Dallas makes a pick at twenty seven, then I like

3464
02:58:16,680 --> 02:58:19,120
Speaker 1: them trading up in the second instead of waiting all

3465
02:58:19,160 --> 02:58:22,280
Speaker 1: the way to sixty to get to running back. Yes,

3466
02:58:23,360 --> 02:58:27,440
Speaker 1: you know how bad I want to running back. It'll

3467
02:58:27,480 --> 02:58:30,400
Speaker 1: be interesting to see. I mean Baltimore, you know, I

3468
02:58:30,560 --> 02:58:34,360
Speaker 1: think Byron Jones definitely. You know, they're sitting on Byron Jones.

3469
02:58:34,720 --> 02:58:37,160
Speaker 1: There's I think they're sitting on Barron. They're waiting them

3470
02:58:37,160 --> 02:58:39,920
Speaker 1: out and yeah if if if he falls to them,

3471
02:58:40,040 --> 02:58:44,440
Speaker 1: that's a that's a heck of a pick if it happens. Yeah,

3472
02:58:44,600 --> 02:58:46,520
Speaker 1: I mean I think that they're I think they're sitting

3473
02:58:47,080 --> 02:58:49,840
Speaker 1: on Byron Jones right now and hoping that he makes

3474
02:58:49,879 --> 02:58:52,920
Speaker 1: it and hoping that Baltimore, uh, you know, or the

3475
02:58:53,240 --> 02:58:55,520
Speaker 1: the in front of them, doesn't you know get taken.

3476
02:58:55,560 --> 02:58:57,360
Speaker 1: I mean there's some high fives going on in this

3477
02:58:57,520 --> 02:58:59,560
Speaker 1: war room. What's what do you think's going on here?

3478
02:58:59,800 --> 02:59:04,680
Speaker 1: We we've talked about we talked about the see anything

3479
02:59:04,680 --> 02:59:06,840
Speaker 1: about a trade, the first round board getting wiped out,

3480
02:59:07,240 --> 02:59:13,480
Speaker 1: your options limited. But one of these guys fall to you. Yeah,

3481
02:59:13,560 --> 02:59:17,320
Speaker 1: they've got their guy. They know the Carolina shakes all

3482
02:59:17,360 --> 02:59:19,120
Speaker 1: around the if they made a trade. No, they know

3483
02:59:19,200 --> 02:59:22,600
Speaker 1: what Carolina and Baltimore are doing. Okay, they got their guy. Yeah.

3484
02:59:22,760 --> 02:59:28,600
Speaker 1: I think to me once once that it was once

3485
02:59:28,680 --> 02:59:31,920
Speaker 1: that that they kind of saw things sliding down the board,

3486
02:59:32,520 --> 02:59:35,480
Speaker 1: and it be interesting what Carolina is it's defense too,

3487
02:59:35,680 --> 02:59:40,440
Speaker 1: it's it's it's gotta be Yeah, they got their guy. Yeah,

3488
02:59:40,640 --> 02:59:43,440
Speaker 1: this is gonna be again. But we got who do

3489
02:59:43,520 --> 02:59:45,840
Speaker 1: we have on the clock right now? The lineup still

3490
02:59:45,879 --> 02:59:48,320
Speaker 1: Carolina picks in and they must have got win too.

3491
02:59:48,360 --> 02:59:51,640
Speaker 1: What Baltimore is doing somehow, well, yeah, he probably called Hardball,

3492
02:59:52,120 --> 02:59:54,960
Speaker 1: well let's talk about let's talk about let's talk about Baltimore.

3493
02:59:54,959 --> 02:59:58,400
Speaker 1: Though John Garrett was on the phone with somebody who

3494
02:59:58,400 --> 03:00:00,879
Speaker 1: probably was on the phone with Hardball, and Hardball said, yeah,

3495
03:00:00,920 --> 03:00:04,240
Speaker 1: we're taking this guy. Okay, yeah, yeah, somebody else he

3496
03:00:04,360 --> 03:00:06,600
Speaker 1: knows there. Yeah, I think that. I think that that

3497
03:00:06,800 --> 03:00:09,520
Speaker 1: Hecky interviewed for the job. He may not, he may

3498
03:00:09,640 --> 03:00:11,800
Speaker 1: talk to the owner. They sat right there, we talked

3499
03:00:11,840 --> 03:00:13,800
Speaker 1: about having to make a move up now in fact,

3500
03:00:13,879 --> 03:00:16,279
Speaker 1: this is Byron Jones. Now they still got a sweat.

3501
03:00:16,360 --> 03:00:19,280
Speaker 1: Evidently they got their guy. Just looking at war room camp, yeah,

3502
03:00:19,280 --> 03:00:22,600
Speaker 1: they've got And we've talked about Carolina needing a sub backer,

3503
03:00:23,040 --> 03:00:26,959
Speaker 1: maybe Shack Thompson, maybe Kendricks, one of those kinds of guys,

3504
03:00:27,600 --> 03:00:31,359
Speaker 1: an outside linebacker. And this clearly means that Orlando Scandric

3505
03:00:31,360 --> 03:00:36,800
Speaker 1: will show up to practice the offseason work on Monday, right, yeah, yeah, exactly,

3506
03:00:36,959 --> 03:00:40,240
Speaker 1: that's over. Yeah, So I mean I would be uh,

3507
03:00:40,760 --> 03:00:44,119
Speaker 1: I would be uh, you know if it fact again,

3508
03:00:44,200 --> 03:00:47,080
Speaker 1: everybody in the word to me, they sweated a guy.

3509
03:00:47,320 --> 03:00:48,920
Speaker 1: Just looking at this right now. I know we got

3510
03:00:49,000 --> 03:00:51,400
Speaker 1: some picks to them, but just looking at it right now,

3511
03:00:51,480 --> 03:00:54,600
Speaker 1: they sweated some guys and they and evidently they got

3512
03:00:54,680 --> 03:00:57,680
Speaker 1: their guy. So we'll see how that all plays out.

3513
03:00:58,160 --> 03:01:01,240
Speaker 1: But it looks like to me a lot of happy

3514
03:01:01,320 --> 03:01:04,720
Speaker 1: folks in that war room for sure. I like Malcolm Brown,

3515
03:01:04,720 --> 03:01:06,959
Speaker 1: who do who do you who do you Byron? You're

3516
03:01:06,959 --> 03:01:10,440
Speaker 1: thinking Byron Jones, I think, yeah, myself, I prefer a

3517
03:01:10,520 --> 03:01:13,640
Speaker 1: defensive lineman. Yeah, and I prefer Malcolm Brown. I'm just

3518
03:01:13,800 --> 03:01:16,200
Speaker 1: on record. This Oklahoma Sooner is on record saying I

3519
03:01:16,280 --> 03:01:19,840
Speaker 1: prefer the Texas Longhorn. Although I like Byron Jones a lot,

3520
03:01:19,879 --> 03:01:22,960
Speaker 1: I say, I prefer a world record broad jump. Yeah,

3521
03:01:23,200 --> 03:01:26,560
Speaker 1: I think for what was it twelve three three yeah,

3522
03:01:27,200 --> 03:01:29,320
Speaker 1: forty four and a half inch vertical. And you know,

3523
03:01:29,360 --> 03:01:32,600
Speaker 1: we talk about workout warrior, and it is Byron Jones.

3524
03:01:32,879 --> 03:01:36,119
Speaker 1: Just a guy that has the measurables, but his tape

3525
03:01:36,160 --> 03:01:38,800
Speaker 1: matches up. He can play press, he can play his zone.

3526
03:01:39,040 --> 03:01:41,840
Speaker 1: The way he stays in phase with receivers is terrific.

3527
03:01:42,120 --> 03:01:44,320
Speaker 1: And he can play with any type of receiver, doesn't

3528
03:01:44,320 --> 03:01:46,640
Speaker 1: matter if it's a small guy, big guy. He can

3529
03:01:46,720 --> 03:01:50,240
Speaker 1: play with any type type of receivers. So they just

3530
03:01:50,320 --> 03:01:52,840
Speaker 1: got a heck of a corner, right, another wrinkle with

3531
03:01:52,959 --> 03:01:58,840
Speaker 1: this and go to the pick. Yeah, yeah, Carolina. This

3532
03:01:59,000 --> 03:02:05,680
Speaker 1: is interesting. Named in his honor, The Walter Payton the

3533
03:02:05,800 --> 03:02:09,400
Speaker 1: NFL Man of the Year Award recognizes a players community

3534
03:02:09,480 --> 03:02:15,039
Speaker 1: service and playing excellence. It is the most prestigious award

3535
03:02:15,160 --> 03:02:19,200
Speaker 1: a player can receive to announce the selection for the

3536
03:02:19,320 --> 03:02:22,560
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, we are proud to have with us tonight

3537
03:02:23,120 --> 03:02:34,880
Speaker 1: the twenty fourteen Man of the Year Thomas status. Thank

3538
03:02:34,920 --> 03:02:38,680
Speaker 1: you for Commissioner went into Watson Payton Man of the

3539
03:02:38,760 --> 03:02:41,440
Speaker 1: Year award was truly the highest honor for me and

3540
03:02:41,520 --> 03:02:46,080
Speaker 1: my family. What it did. It gave me an opportunity

3541
03:02:46,160 --> 03:02:52,200
Speaker 1: with my foundation, so much support from the Commissioner, from

3542
03:02:52,400 --> 03:02:56,560
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers and from nationwide. And with that support,

3543
03:02:56,959 --> 03:02:59,480
Speaker 1: we've been able to excel and take my foundation to

3544
03:02:59,640 --> 03:03:03,200
Speaker 1: new high and again, Commissioner, I thank you guys for that.

3545
03:03:09,200 --> 03:03:13,320
Speaker 1: And now with the twenty fifth pick in the two

3546
03:03:13,360 --> 03:03:18,480
Speaker 1: thousand and fifteen NFL Draft, the Carolina Panther select Shack

3547
03:03:18,600 --> 03:03:24,200
Speaker 1: Thompson linebacker. Yeah, Thomas Davison is maybe replacement down the road,

3548
03:03:24,400 --> 03:03:29,160
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, not surpribly. We talked about, you know, guys,

3549
03:03:29,240 --> 03:03:32,600
Speaker 1: needing uh now made him made a sub linebacker. This

3550
03:03:32,720 --> 03:03:35,760
Speaker 1: guy is, I mean he is a run hit, cover

3551
03:03:35,959 --> 03:03:39,720
Speaker 1: guy and so uh Shack Thompson guy. I think the

3552
03:03:39,800 --> 03:03:43,240
Speaker 1: Cowboys liked as well. But uh now you got it

3553
03:03:43,360 --> 03:03:46,520
Speaker 1: by Byron Jones. Where where do they play him? Initially,

3554
03:03:47,240 --> 03:03:49,200
Speaker 1: I mean he's a corner. He's a corner, and so

3555
03:03:49,520 --> 03:03:52,640
Speaker 1: I know he did play a little safety um at Yukon.

3556
03:03:53,080 --> 03:03:54,960
Speaker 1: I like him a corner. I'm not moving him. He's

3557
03:03:54,959 --> 03:03:58,160
Speaker 1: in a corner um. Like I was saying before, he

3558
03:03:58,200 --> 03:04:00,280
Speaker 1: can play with any type of receiver. And and you're

3559
03:04:00,320 --> 03:04:04,720
Speaker 1: playing in a division with Odell Beckham, with Nelson Aglore.

3560
03:04:04,840 --> 03:04:07,400
Speaker 1: Now I think you need a player like this. And

3561
03:04:08,040 --> 03:04:11,199
Speaker 1: we talked about the Cowboys selecting players that are clean

3562
03:04:11,320 --> 03:04:15,640
Speaker 1: off the field. And Byron Jones is Captain America. He's

3563
03:04:15,959 --> 03:04:17,800
Speaker 1: he's a boy scouting, so I think it goes along

3564
03:04:17,920 --> 03:04:20,920
Speaker 1: with keeping mind he played for Paul Pasqualoni at Yukon, yeah,

3565
03:04:20,959 --> 03:04:23,480
Speaker 1: earlier in his career, right, And we're gonna hear a

3566
03:04:23,520 --> 03:04:25,920
Speaker 1: lot about workout warrior. We're going to hear those two

3567
03:04:25,959 --> 03:04:29,760
Speaker 1: words associated with Byron Jones. I promise you it's not that. No,

3568
03:04:30,280 --> 03:04:32,480
Speaker 1: not at all. We're talking about a player with a

3569
03:04:32,520 --> 03:04:35,640
Speaker 1: tape matches up. Now. We haven't heard much about him.

3570
03:04:35,720 --> 03:04:38,320
Speaker 1: We didn't hear much about him in January because he

3571
03:04:38,440 --> 03:04:40,960
Speaker 1: was hurt. He was invited to the Senior Bowl, but

3572
03:04:41,040 --> 03:04:44,000
Speaker 1: he could not participate because of the shoulder. He was

3573
03:04:44,040 --> 03:04:47,280
Speaker 1: at the combine, couldn't run the forty, but he did

3574
03:04:47,400 --> 03:04:50,240
Speaker 1: do other drills, and he played for a team that

3575
03:04:50,480 --> 03:04:53,040
Speaker 1: was terrible at Yakon. Absolutely, and so I think that's

3576
03:04:53,080 --> 03:04:54,800
Speaker 1: why he went under the radar. A little bit doesn't

3577
03:04:54,800 --> 03:04:57,760
Speaker 1: mean it's not a good player. Yeah, I totally agree

3578
03:04:57,760 --> 03:05:00,440
Speaker 1: about that. I mean, to me, you know, you watch

3579
03:05:00,600 --> 03:05:03,200
Speaker 1: him play and he's a he's one of those guys.

3580
03:05:03,360 --> 03:05:05,960
Speaker 1: He's got size. Oh yeah, he's this guy. He's got

3581
03:05:06,040 --> 03:05:08,320
Speaker 1: some size. He's physical, and he's a hard guy to

3582
03:05:08,440 --> 03:05:10,840
Speaker 1: run away from. I mean when it when you know,

3583
03:05:10,879 --> 03:05:12,720
Speaker 1: when you're trying to get up the field on him.

3584
03:05:13,120 --> 03:05:15,200
Speaker 1: He's one of those guys that can stay in position

3585
03:05:15,480 --> 03:05:18,520
Speaker 1: and stays in phase and yeah, and they go across

3586
03:05:18,600 --> 03:05:20,400
Speaker 1: the field on him. He can burn. You know a

3587
03:05:20,480 --> 03:05:22,240
Speaker 1: lot of guys. When you watch a guy like Brandon

3588
03:05:22,320 --> 03:05:26,200
Speaker 1: car play and there's separation, this guy can plant and

3589
03:05:26,480 --> 03:05:30,400
Speaker 1: run and stay in position and make plays deny the football.

3590
03:05:30,520 --> 03:05:33,600
Speaker 1: So I think that that's you know, I think that

3591
03:05:34,000 --> 03:05:37,440
Speaker 1: they they sweated a picky, they caught a break. There's

3592
03:05:37,440 --> 03:05:40,120
Speaker 1: strobbing some people that thought maybe that you know, some

3593
03:05:40,320 --> 03:05:43,560
Speaker 1: Peters was a better corner. You know, obviously he went

3594
03:05:43,640 --> 03:05:46,640
Speaker 1: earlier to Kansas City. So Cowboys I think got the

3595
03:05:46,680 --> 03:05:50,080
Speaker 1: guy they exactly want. I'm frankly, I'm surprised that he's

3596
03:05:50,080 --> 03:05:52,320
Speaker 1: available for the Cowboys. I think you're talking about it.

3597
03:05:52,320 --> 03:05:54,360
Speaker 1: That's why I think they're so elated in that war

3598
03:05:54,480 --> 03:05:56,800
Speaker 1: room right now. I don't think. I don't think there

3599
03:05:56,800 --> 03:06:00,280
Speaker 1: are twenty six better players in this draft than Byron Jones. Yeah,

3600
03:06:00,400 --> 03:06:02,840
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. I'm totally with you on that.

3601
03:06:04,280 --> 03:06:07,240
Speaker 1: I read some opposite opinions though, which is interesting. There

3602
03:06:07,440 --> 03:06:11,520
Speaker 1: there was some. In fact, I saw another team's draft

3603
03:06:11,600 --> 03:06:16,680
Speaker 1: board and they had Byron Jones considerably lowers. They had

3604
03:06:16,720 --> 03:06:21,840
Speaker 1: ahead of him, a good amount of a couple, a couple. Yeah,

3605
03:06:22,400 --> 03:06:25,000
Speaker 1: and that's what that's what, That's what. That's the thing about.

3606
03:06:25,040 --> 03:06:27,160
Speaker 1: It is is it gonna be? Is he? You know?

3607
03:06:27,360 --> 03:06:30,600
Speaker 1: Was was? Teams had Peters off the board, you know,

3608
03:06:30,680 --> 03:06:33,520
Speaker 1: and he went to Kansas City at eighteen. So you know,

3609
03:06:33,680 --> 03:06:36,440
Speaker 1: if you who who did you like at corner? You

3610
03:06:36,520 --> 03:06:38,760
Speaker 1: know what was your order? Everybody seemed to like the

3611
03:06:38,840 --> 03:06:42,520
Speaker 1: Wayne's kid from Michigan State, and then it was Kevin

3612
03:06:42,640 --> 03:06:45,280
Speaker 1: Johnson and then okay, who was it? After that? Was

3613
03:06:45,360 --> 03:06:49,879
Speaker 1: it Peters? Was it Jones. You know again, this guy's

3614
03:06:50,160 --> 03:06:53,359
Speaker 1: a physical football player. All right. Now you're trader Orlando

3615
03:06:53,480 --> 03:06:58,560
Speaker 1: Scandrick and your second rounder for Peterson who was with me. Wait,

3616
03:06:58,800 --> 03:07:01,520
Speaker 1: Minnesota got Wayne so they already. Bill has to be

3617
03:07:01,640 --> 03:07:05,400
Speaker 1: happy though that Jones yet that you would know that

3618
03:07:05,480 --> 03:07:08,320
Speaker 1: you didn't get there, you know that it didn't come down.

3619
03:07:08,440 --> 03:07:12,520
Speaker 1: I did not see them taking Randy Gregory. I just

3620
03:07:12,680 --> 03:07:15,840
Speaker 1: did not see it. This falls right in line with

3621
03:07:16,120 --> 03:07:19,160
Speaker 1: the same type of players that they have been drafting

3622
03:07:19,240 --> 03:07:23,720
Speaker 1: here recently. Uh, just a high character guy. And Zach

3623
03:07:23,800 --> 03:07:27,640
Speaker 1: Martin last year, Travis Frederick the year before. Uh, you know,

3624
03:07:27,920 --> 03:07:31,760
Speaker 1: it's it's a Jason Garrett right kind of guy. Last summer,

3625
03:07:32,280 --> 03:07:35,320
Speaker 1: a lot of players are kind of relaxing, doing their

3626
03:07:35,320 --> 03:07:38,520
Speaker 1: own thing, working out Byron Jones was serving an internship

3627
03:07:38,560 --> 03:07:40,800
Speaker 1: at the US Capital. That's the type of player that

3628
03:07:40,920 --> 03:07:44,360
Speaker 1: he is. Um, that's that's a type of individual, very

3629
03:07:44,480 --> 03:07:50,680
Speaker 1: motivated individual, high character kids. So, uh, I mean twenty

3630
03:07:50,720 --> 03:07:52,880
Speaker 1: six hasn't picked yet, But no, I mean we keep

3631
03:07:52,959 --> 03:07:56,240
Speaker 1: talking about it. It's done, it's done. Yeah, well I

3632
03:07:56,600 --> 03:07:59,640
Speaker 1: believe it now it's done that, you know. But okay, Well,

3633
03:08:00,000 --> 03:08:03,119
Speaker 1: thinking about Baltimore, you know we've We've looked at Baltimore

3634
03:08:03,200 --> 03:08:05,320
Speaker 1: and I know I've looked at Baltimore and I've always

3635
03:08:05,360 --> 03:08:10,119
Speaker 1: thought about wide receiver speed. You know, somebody, uh, somebody

3636
03:08:10,160 --> 03:08:13,560
Speaker 1: that could go get the football. You know that the Ravens,

3637
03:08:13,879 --> 03:08:16,400
Speaker 1: you look at their team needs corner that might be.

3638
03:08:16,879 --> 03:08:19,720
Speaker 1: I know we're kind of celebrating here, but the selections

3639
03:08:19,760 --> 03:08:24,360
Speaker 1: in I you're nervous. It's in. I think it's a receiver.

3640
03:08:24,640 --> 03:08:27,760
Speaker 1: I really do the corner, receiver, running back with their

3641
03:08:27,840 --> 03:08:31,640
Speaker 1: needs Devin Smith in the tournament, I believe in NFL Draft,

3642
03:08:32,560 --> 03:08:37,560
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens select for the pyramid. Here we go. Yeah,

3643
03:08:37,800 --> 03:08:40,480
Speaker 1: I guarantee you. Garrett was on the phone with somebody

3644
03:08:40,560 --> 03:08:44,240
Speaker 1: in the Baltimore organization and they said, we're taking That's

3645
03:08:44,240 --> 03:08:46,600
Speaker 1: how they next when they knew that they had their guy.

3646
03:08:47,120 --> 03:08:49,520
Speaker 1: And someone was talking to Carolina too. Well, that means

3647
03:08:49,640 --> 03:08:53,520
Speaker 1: Dallas is officially on the clock and so and we

3648
03:08:53,640 --> 03:08:57,000
Speaker 1: are all speculating here, like the whethers the this they

3649
03:08:57,040 --> 03:09:01,240
Speaker 1: could do in the the the election night, we're giving

3650
03:09:01,280 --> 03:09:05,640
Speaker 1: the state of Florida too. I'd say what we saw

3651
03:09:05,680 --> 03:09:07,680
Speaker 1: in the war room cam a few a few minutes

3652
03:09:07,720 --> 03:09:11,080
Speaker 1: ago is what we're feeling right now, Byron Jones is

3653
03:09:11,120 --> 03:09:15,480
Speaker 1: on it's still available. Cowboys are on the clock. Yeah,

3654
03:09:15,560 --> 03:09:19,039
Speaker 1: that's as It's gonna be a great, a great marriage

3655
03:09:19,040 --> 03:09:21,360
Speaker 1: if that's what happens. Isn't it funny how this happens

3656
03:09:21,400 --> 03:09:24,800
Speaker 1: where they celebrated ten minutes ago? I mean, how they

3657
03:09:24,920 --> 03:09:27,720
Speaker 1: have intelligence Wheah, they can make a call and it's

3658
03:09:27,760 --> 03:09:29,800
Speaker 1: easy enough. I mean it'd be like you calling another

3659
03:09:29,840 --> 03:09:32,160
Speaker 1: TV stay, So who do you young? What do y'all

3660
03:09:32,160 --> 03:09:35,520
Speaker 1: doing today? Now? Nobody takes my calls anymore? Jones, something

3661
03:09:35,600 --> 03:09:38,280
Speaker 1: that I'm sure will be asked of Jerry and uh,

3662
03:09:38,520 --> 03:09:40,960
Speaker 1: you know, the brain trust. If they got any offers,

3663
03:09:41,240 --> 03:09:43,200
Speaker 1: they're not gonna give away particulars. But if they got

3664
03:09:43,240 --> 03:09:46,240
Speaker 1: any interesting offers to trade back. But with Byron Jones

3665
03:09:46,280 --> 03:09:48,520
Speaker 1: on the board, I don't think clearly, unless something blows

3666
03:09:48,520 --> 03:09:51,920
Speaker 1: you away, you take the player. Clearly, there's nobody. They're

3667
03:09:51,959 --> 03:09:54,920
Speaker 1: not interested. They're not there's nobody's answering any phones here

3668
03:09:55,000 --> 03:09:56,640
Speaker 1: anything like that. They got to trade up in the

3669
03:09:56,680 --> 03:09:58,800
Speaker 1: second though, they're gonna wait all the way to say

3670
03:09:59,080 --> 03:10:00,600
Speaker 1: do you get that running back? Wait all the way

3671
03:10:00,600 --> 03:10:03,200
Speaker 1: to say they're not gonna get Tom there? Well, are

3672
03:10:03,200 --> 03:10:05,480
Speaker 1: they gonna get what about Duke Johnson? Are they gonna

3673
03:10:05,480 --> 03:10:08,240
Speaker 1: get him there? Yeah? I think that to me, I

3674
03:10:08,440 --> 03:10:11,600
Speaker 1: mocked up Dulap thinking that maybe if it didn't stretch.

3675
03:10:11,959 --> 03:10:14,080
Speaker 1: But see, that's the thing about it, and we'll know tomorrow.

3676
03:10:14,160 --> 03:10:17,520
Speaker 1: We'll know tomorrow night too that what you have is

3677
03:10:18,160 --> 03:10:21,360
Speaker 1: teams and we don't like short running backs and Duke

3678
03:10:21,520 --> 03:10:25,240
Speaker 1: Johnson falls into that category of a short guy. Pick

3679
03:10:25,480 --> 03:10:28,720
Speaker 1: is in that would be Baltimore's pick, right or is

3680
03:10:28,760 --> 03:10:34,080
Speaker 1: that Dallas house in? Height is maybe the least important

3681
03:10:34,120 --> 03:10:36,480
Speaker 1: quality for a running back, right. Build? Okay, you know

3682
03:10:36,560 --> 03:10:38,440
Speaker 1: you can, you can talk me into that. But height.

3683
03:10:38,760 --> 03:10:40,760
Speaker 1: Look at Barry Standers, look at look at Himmett, look

3684
03:10:40,760 --> 03:10:42,959
Speaker 1: at some of these great running backs you've seen the league.

3685
03:10:43,080 --> 03:10:46,280
Speaker 1: If anything, it's it helps you because the you run

3686
03:10:46,360 --> 03:10:51,680
Speaker 1: closer to the ground protection type. And I think it

3687
03:10:51,760 --> 03:10:53,800
Speaker 1: goes back to build. You know, your overall strength or

3688
03:10:53,840 --> 03:10:56,680
Speaker 1: growth potential. Um. You know, obviously if you're shorter, that

3689
03:10:56,840 --> 03:10:59,360
Speaker 1: probably means you're you're gonna max out at you know,

3690
03:10:59,480 --> 03:11:01,920
Speaker 1: two ten and whatever it is. And that's what and

3691
03:11:02,000 --> 03:11:04,080
Speaker 1: that's a worry with a player like Duke Johnson and

3692
03:11:04,120 --> 03:11:07,640
Speaker 1: Mirabdulah is uh, they are shorter, but they are leaner too.

3693
03:11:07,720 --> 03:11:10,920
Speaker 1: There's only so much bills you can put on them. Boy,

3694
03:11:10,959 --> 03:11:13,920
Speaker 1: Abdulah is another one that fits right into this Byron

3695
03:11:14,000 --> 03:11:16,760
Speaker 1: Jones type a high character. Well yeah, and if you

3696
03:11:16,840 --> 03:11:19,360
Speaker 1: look at Abdulah, though, I felt like that there was

3697
03:11:19,720 --> 03:11:23,360
Speaker 1: two teams that I watched where there were huge holes

3698
03:11:23,480 --> 03:11:25,680
Speaker 1: every time they ran the football, and that would be

3699
03:11:27,160 --> 03:11:30,120
Speaker 1: that would be Nebraska and Wisconsin. So you know when

3700
03:11:30,160 --> 03:11:33,080
Speaker 1: he watched Gordon play, you know, he had huge holes

3701
03:11:33,120 --> 03:11:37,760
Speaker 1: to run through. But Duke Johnson, boy, that poor guy.

3702
03:11:38,160 --> 03:11:40,520
Speaker 1: Other than the left tackle, it was it was tough

3703
03:11:40,600 --> 03:11:43,120
Speaker 1: sledding for him, a lot of creating on his own.

3704
03:11:43,320 --> 03:11:45,840
Speaker 1: If if if Jerry's right, and they don't feel as

3705
03:11:45,959 --> 03:11:48,640
Speaker 1: urgent as some of us do at running back, and

3706
03:11:48,720 --> 03:11:51,680
Speaker 1: it goes to the third round beside Langford from Michigan State,

3707
03:11:51,720 --> 03:11:55,280
Speaker 1: who who's there the third round? Yeah? If you wait

3708
03:11:55,480 --> 03:11:57,400
Speaker 1: to the third round to get the run? Well okay,

3709
03:11:57,400 --> 03:12:00,200
Speaker 1: what about yeah? What about you know? Yeah, it's Dvid

3710
03:12:00,280 --> 03:12:03,080
Speaker 1: Johnson about Yelden. Would you think Yeldon would be a third?

3711
03:12:03,160 --> 03:12:05,880
Speaker 1: I think he's going second. Yeah, but I think you know,

3712
03:12:05,959 --> 03:12:09,200
Speaker 1: you feel comfortable waiting at sixty and see follows you,

3713
03:12:09,240 --> 03:12:10,840
Speaker 1: I think a running back will fall into them. I do.

3714
03:12:11,240 --> 03:12:16,280
Speaker 1: I didn't think. How about Jagi's second and will you

3715
03:12:16,320 --> 03:12:18,640
Speaker 1: consider him the third with a knee, right, yeah, I'm

3716
03:12:18,680 --> 03:12:20,160
Speaker 1: not taking him at sixty. No, No, I don't think

3717
03:12:20,200 --> 03:12:22,560
Speaker 1: this team would either. Cowboys. I don't think the Cowboys

3718
03:12:22,600 --> 03:12:25,000
Speaker 1: would at sixty yeah, with that knee. But at ninety

3719
03:12:25,040 --> 03:12:27,960
Speaker 1: one you consider it. And that's why you don't feel

3720
03:12:28,000 --> 03:12:29,920
Speaker 1: pressured to take a running back at six. I didn't

3721
03:12:29,959 --> 03:12:33,160
Speaker 1: feel like it because I took Abdula and I and

3722
03:12:33,280 --> 03:12:35,680
Speaker 1: I knowing damn good and well that he would probably

3723
03:12:35,720 --> 03:12:38,640
Speaker 1: be gone, you know. But again, I'm banking on the

3724
03:12:38,720 --> 03:12:41,320
Speaker 1: short running back. That's why I think Duke Johnson makes

3725
03:12:41,360 --> 03:12:44,720
Speaker 1: it to sixty because of the short running back. I

3726
03:12:45,160 --> 03:12:48,320
Speaker 1: just I kind of I know you're you're grimacing right

3727
03:12:48,400 --> 03:12:50,480
Speaker 1: now about it. You think Coleman makes it to sixty.

3728
03:12:50,640 --> 03:12:52,560
Speaker 1: No way, there's no way. I mean I think you

3729
03:12:52,640 --> 03:12:55,480
Speaker 1: look at yeah, the Jags in the second, I think

3730
03:12:55,480 --> 03:12:57,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna take a running back, the Lions, or possibility

3731
03:12:57,680 --> 03:13:01,320
Speaker 1: at the Cardinals. Um, so it's gonna be a long

3732
03:13:01,360 --> 03:13:04,000
Speaker 1: shark for Coleman. Uh and probably even Duke Johnson. Let's

3733
03:13:04,000 --> 03:13:06,400
Speaker 1: be honest, it's it's gonna be We will be swepting

3734
03:13:06,440 --> 03:13:09,160
Speaker 1: that out tomorrow. How that plays out. Yeah, By the way,

3735
03:13:09,160 --> 03:13:10,640
Speaker 1: as soon as they make the pick, I'm gonna have

3736
03:13:10,720 --> 03:13:13,160
Speaker 1: to run out of here. It's ten o'clock. Yeah, you

3737
03:13:13,200 --> 03:13:17,920
Speaker 1: know where you do? You know where your sports aker is. Yeah,

3738
03:13:18,040 --> 03:13:20,440
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna have to head down to the interview

3739
03:13:20,560 --> 03:13:22,000
Speaker 1: room here in just a second. But I want to

3740
03:13:22,040 --> 03:13:25,320
Speaker 1: hear the pick. Yeah, I I you know again that

3741
03:13:25,440 --> 03:13:27,119
Speaker 1: they you know, if you look at the war room cam,

3742
03:13:27,200 --> 03:13:29,760
Speaker 1: everybody's very excited. This is a player that obviously they

3743
03:13:29,840 --> 03:13:32,720
Speaker 1: had uh sitting on their board that they felt like

3744
03:13:32,879 --> 03:13:36,760
Speaker 1: it probably was the third best corner there, you know.

3745
03:13:36,879 --> 03:13:38,160
Speaker 1: And the fact that that you know, there was a

3746
03:13:38,200 --> 03:13:41,240
Speaker 1: lot of people didn't think that the cornerback would stretch

3747
03:13:41,400 --> 03:13:44,400
Speaker 1: that far. You know, I know that we we trade

3748
03:13:44,480 --> 03:13:47,000
Speaker 1: made a small trade up to get a guy. We

3749
03:13:47,120 --> 03:13:48,920
Speaker 1: made a trade up twenty one and Byron Jones is

3750
03:13:48,959 --> 03:13:51,840
Speaker 1: already off the board. Yeah, we Byron Jones is the

3751
03:13:51,879 --> 03:13:54,080
Speaker 1: player that Again, I don't think there are twenty six

3752
03:13:54,200 --> 03:13:56,680
Speaker 1: better players in this draft than Byron Jones, right, So

3753
03:13:57,360 --> 03:14:00,200
Speaker 1: you know that's that and that's good and if that's gain,

3754
03:14:00,200 --> 03:14:03,800
Speaker 1: if that's the pick. Again, weird speculating. Here we go here, Commissioner.

3755
03:14:05,160 --> 03:14:09,720
Speaker 1: The twenty seventh pick to fifteen NFL Draft, the Dallas

3756
03:14:09,840 --> 03:14:15,400
Speaker 1: Cowboys select Byron Jones, defensive beck of the pick, Connecticut

3757
03:14:16,120 --> 03:14:20,080
Speaker 1: six to one, one hundred ninety nine pounds and the

3758
03:14:20,320 --> 03:14:24,040
Speaker 1: hero of the combine numbers from Byron Jones forty four

3759
03:14:24,160 --> 03:14:29,240
Speaker 1: and a half vertical, a world record twelve three broad jump,

3760
03:14:29,680 --> 03:14:33,120
Speaker 1: a three nine four twenty yard short shuttle, and a

3761
03:14:33,320 --> 03:14:38,080
Speaker 1: six seven eight three comb But he plays athletically, That's

3762
03:14:38,360 --> 03:14:41,960
Speaker 1: that's not That's not a a like a guy that

3763
03:14:42,080 --> 03:14:44,720
Speaker 1: for three with a one fifty split. Yeah, that's not.

3764
03:14:45,120 --> 03:14:49,440
Speaker 1: We've been I mean, okay, we've been. We've been singing

3765
03:14:49,520 --> 03:14:52,520
Speaker 1: his praises. But I'll read you some of his week decisions.

3766
03:14:52,520 --> 03:14:55,280
Speaker 1: Just it's even this out let's you know, Uh, with

3767
03:14:55,640 --> 03:14:58,119
Speaker 1: Byron Jones, you have a player he can get caught

3768
03:14:58,160 --> 03:15:00,959
Speaker 1: flat footed at times. He allows his eyes to pay

3769
03:15:01,040 --> 03:15:04,040
Speaker 1: rent in the backfield. I mean, he's not a flawless player.

3770
03:15:04,320 --> 03:15:07,120
Speaker 1: He does have his flaws, but I think the strengths

3771
03:15:07,160 --> 03:15:11,000
Speaker 1: far outway the weaknesses here. You're really the surgery with

3772
03:15:11,040 --> 03:15:14,039
Speaker 1: his shoulder is something that obviously they were comfortable with two.

3773
03:15:14,400 --> 03:15:18,000
Speaker 1: He missed most of his senior year after shoulder surgery.

3774
03:15:19,280 --> 03:15:21,080
Speaker 1: It was what the right shoulder, I believe, and so

3775
03:15:21,400 --> 03:15:23,200
Speaker 1: or no the left shoulder. At his pro day he

3776
03:15:23,360 --> 03:15:27,720
Speaker 1: was able to do eighteen reps and so Cowboys aren't

3777
03:15:27,720 --> 03:15:32,720
Speaker 1: afraid of guys coming in injured. Never happened now. In

3778
03:15:32,959 --> 03:15:37,240
Speaker 1: his career his U in two thousan eleven and two twelve,

3779
03:15:37,320 --> 03:15:40,840
Speaker 1: he played safety, making twenty starts, and in the last

3780
03:15:40,879 --> 03:15:43,800
Speaker 1: two years at Yukon played cornerback. And I think we can.

3781
03:15:43,959 --> 03:15:45,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll get these questions, but I think we

3782
03:15:45,800 --> 03:15:47,680
Speaker 1: can put at the rest Byron Jones will be a

3783
03:15:47,760 --> 03:15:50,080
Speaker 1: cornerback for this team. Yeah. I agree on that too.

3784
03:15:50,800 --> 03:15:54,600
Speaker 1: Me for Brandon Carr, some of that leverage moving back

3785
03:15:54,680 --> 03:15:57,600
Speaker 1: over to the Cowboys side. They can take another corner

3786
03:15:57,640 --> 03:15:59,680
Speaker 1: in this draft, sure, and then what does it mean

3787
03:16:00,600 --> 03:16:04,240
Speaker 1: even more to Brandon? For Brandon Carr, I gotta run

3788
03:16:04,320 --> 03:16:07,680
Speaker 1: out of here. Yeah, I just you know, yeah, thank you, Bill,

3789
03:16:07,879 --> 03:16:09,600
Speaker 1: I tell you what I mean the things. I was

3790
03:16:09,640 --> 03:16:11,520
Speaker 1: just going in through it and kind of piggybacking on

3791
03:16:11,600 --> 03:16:14,240
Speaker 1: what Dane And we'll have a report up on Dallas

3792
03:16:14,280 --> 03:16:16,960
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com about Byron Jones and my notes and

3793
03:16:17,040 --> 03:16:19,480
Speaker 1: stuff like that. You know, I said physical and the

3794
03:16:19,600 --> 03:16:23,280
Speaker 1: press moves well to get in position, nice power to

3795
03:16:23,400 --> 03:16:26,840
Speaker 1: hold receiver up, can mirror receiver high point ball pedal

3796
03:16:26,959 --> 03:16:30,120
Speaker 1: turn goes smooth, not much wasted motion with this player

3797
03:16:30,160 --> 03:16:32,959
Speaker 1: plays with knees or bent. You know, thought maybe if

3798
03:16:33,080 --> 03:16:34,320
Speaker 1: you look for a little bit of weak and says

3799
03:16:34,360 --> 03:16:36,600
Speaker 1: talking to some people about his balance. There was sometimes

3800
03:16:36,600 --> 03:16:38,720
Speaker 1: when we might see a little bit of some stuff

3801
03:16:38,720 --> 03:16:41,280
Speaker 1: with his balance. But other than that, read the route

3802
03:16:41,320 --> 03:16:43,600
Speaker 1: quick all that. So as you can see, they put

3803
03:16:43,680 --> 03:16:47,920
Speaker 1: the cover back over the screen, so we're back to

3804
03:16:48,840 --> 03:16:52,120
Speaker 1: looking at as they're doing to quelas shot exactly. Cigars

3805
03:16:52,160 --> 03:16:56,080
Speaker 1: are up. Let me reintroduce sorry, Steve Dennis, one of

3806
03:16:56,160 --> 03:17:00,160
Speaker 1: our trusted allies here on the break does it out

3807
03:17:00,200 --> 03:17:02,200
Speaker 1: of great work on the television side. One of my

3808
03:17:02,320 --> 03:17:05,920
Speaker 1: favorite guys, by the way, my roommate at training camp,

3809
03:17:06,000 --> 03:17:08,160
Speaker 1: but one of the guys here at Valley Ranch. And

3810
03:17:08,160 --> 03:17:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this that I always believe one of

3811
03:17:10,560 --> 03:17:12,760
Speaker 1: the guys that comes here and did and worked hard

3812
03:17:12,800 --> 03:17:15,160
Speaker 1: every day and asked tough questions and I always respect

3813
03:17:15,240 --> 03:17:17,320
Speaker 1: you for that. So thank you for joining us today

3814
03:17:17,760 --> 03:17:20,480
Speaker 1: and then Dame Brugler from CBS Sports, who's been sitting

3815
03:17:20,520 --> 03:17:23,840
Speaker 1: here all night filling your head full of knowledge picking

3816
03:17:23,879 --> 03:17:26,879
Speaker 1: these players, giving the idea, going back and forth part

3817
03:17:26,920 --> 03:17:29,960
Speaker 1: of the Draft show. Love having him. Kent Garrison and

3818
03:17:30,360 --> 03:17:33,320
Speaker 1: Lauren Soaklin there as well. So everybody's here as the

3819
03:17:33,400 --> 03:17:35,960
Speaker 1: Cowboys have made the pick, the Lions selection for the

3820
03:17:36,000 --> 03:17:38,480
Speaker 1: Lions is up, and we'll go to him. Most people

3821
03:17:38,520 --> 03:17:41,440
Speaker 1: had a second sorry about that. I was cheerleading there

3822
03:17:41,440 --> 03:17:45,240
Speaker 1: a little bit. Lake and Tomlinson is it's interesting because

3823
03:17:45,320 --> 03:17:48,320
Speaker 1: they just received a guard from Denver in that trade,

3824
03:17:48,440 --> 03:17:52,600
Speaker 1: right right, and they have a kid from Kentucky that

3825
03:17:52,680 --> 03:17:55,400
Speaker 1: we liked a couple years ago to the draft Lincoln

3826
03:17:55,440 --> 03:17:58,840
Speaker 1: right on his name at guard Wolford. Yes, Larry Wolford. Yeah,

3827
03:17:59,080 --> 03:18:01,920
Speaker 1: so it's an interesting pick right there. He's a very

3828
03:18:02,000 --> 03:18:04,120
Speaker 1: clean he might be the cleanest player in this draft.

3829
03:18:04,320 --> 03:18:06,520
Speaker 1: You know one comment, I had him in the third

3830
03:18:06,600 --> 03:18:08,440
Speaker 1: round though I was a little nervous about that. Yeah,

3831
03:18:08,520 --> 03:18:10,360
Speaker 1: I didn't have him that. I didn't have him that high,

3832
03:18:10,720 --> 03:18:12,760
Speaker 1: So yeah I did. I thought this again. You talk

3833
03:18:12,800 --> 03:18:14,640
Speaker 1: about a guy, he's what's good to med school. He's

3834
03:18:14,680 --> 03:18:17,920
Speaker 1: one of those med school guys that He's born Jamaica, right,

3835
03:18:18,040 --> 03:18:20,800
Speaker 1: YEA just an interesting story. But again you you're talking

3836
03:18:20,800 --> 03:18:23,440
Speaker 1: about it powerful guy. I mean you'll see a powerful guy.

3837
03:18:23,480 --> 03:18:25,600
Speaker 1: I don't. I worry a little bit about his pass

3838
03:18:25,720 --> 03:18:29,720
Speaker 1: blocking overall. But he is a big physical guy inside.

3839
03:18:29,760 --> 03:18:32,760
Speaker 1: But I myself did not have him but in the

3840
03:18:33,120 --> 03:18:36,080
Speaker 1: third round, So quick comment on Byron Jones, because you

3841
03:18:36,200 --> 03:18:39,200
Speaker 1: guys broke down his abilities on the football field really well.

3842
03:18:39,800 --> 03:18:42,560
Speaker 1: I got stuck back here in the hallway at Valley

3843
03:18:42,640 --> 03:18:45,480
Speaker 1: Range when Mike Woisick was given him the tour hour

3844
03:18:45,640 --> 03:18:48,800
Speaker 1: of the building, and I couldn't move, so I had

3845
03:18:48,879 --> 03:18:53,320
Speaker 1: to listen to the conversation that Woisick and Coach Henderson

3846
03:18:53,440 --> 03:18:57,280
Speaker 1: had with the kid. You talk about a mature kid, right,

3847
03:18:57,480 --> 03:19:00,520
Speaker 1: and not afraid. I mean he was cracking jokes with

3848
03:19:00,640 --> 03:19:04,240
Speaker 1: these guys with a big smile. This is not one

3849
03:19:04,280 --> 03:19:07,560
Speaker 1: of those young kids that comes in and it all

3850
03:19:07,720 --> 03:19:10,440
Speaker 1: seems like, oh my gosh, I'm with the Dallas Cowboys here.

3851
03:19:11,320 --> 03:19:15,360
Speaker 1: Huge personality and very mature is what I gathered in

3852
03:19:15,760 --> 03:19:18,280
Speaker 1: ten minutes of listening to a conversation here. You're always

3853
03:19:18,400 --> 03:19:21,560
Speaker 1: very critical, Steve of the Garrett guy. Not critical in

3854
03:19:21,640 --> 03:19:25,480
Speaker 1: the negative way, but critical of like, is this a

3855
03:19:25,680 --> 03:19:29,680
Speaker 1: Garrett guy? Is this a Jason Garrett type of a player?

3856
03:19:30,400 --> 03:19:33,400
Speaker 1: Byron Jones, You sound like listening to your interaction with

3857
03:19:33,560 --> 03:19:36,240
Speaker 1: him was a perfect Jason Garrett. No. The only time

3858
03:19:36,280 --> 03:19:39,920
Speaker 1: I get critical of the Garrett guy he preaches that

3859
03:19:40,160 --> 03:19:42,960
Speaker 1: and then they signed Greg Hardy. Yeah, that's that's the

3860
03:19:43,040 --> 03:19:45,560
Speaker 1: only time I get critical of that, because there's a

3861
03:19:45,640 --> 03:19:49,400
Speaker 1: disconnect between the front office and Garrett in my opinion sometimes.

3862
03:19:49,840 --> 03:19:52,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, this is definitely the right kind of guy

3863
03:19:52,800 --> 03:19:57,480
Speaker 1: Byron Jones. I'm telling you, big personality, big personality coming

3864
03:19:57,560 --> 03:20:01,000
Speaker 1: in here. Yeah. Well, I'm excited that. You know again,

3865
03:20:01,240 --> 03:20:03,640
Speaker 1: you know, this captain team needed to cornerback. I'm just

3866
03:20:03,760 --> 03:20:07,720
Speaker 1: kind of going through, uh the notes here, the people

3867
03:20:07,840 --> 03:20:12,000
Speaker 1: tweeting in here on at the Draft show. Uh, you know,

3868
03:20:12,120 --> 03:20:16,880
Speaker 1: it seemed very happy about the pick of Byron Jones,

3869
03:20:17,200 --> 03:20:20,720
Speaker 1: telling him welcome to Dallas, all those things. Greg Bailey said,

3870
03:20:20,720 --> 03:20:23,080
Speaker 1: I called it Byron Jones. You remember discussion of my

3871
03:20:23,240 --> 03:20:25,400
Speaker 1: question on the show. I'm sure we'll get a lot

3872
03:20:25,480 --> 03:20:28,480
Speaker 1: of folks that the revisionist history. But I think great

3873
03:20:28,520 --> 03:20:31,680
Speaker 1: congratulations though, if in fact made that call, I think

3874
03:20:31,720 --> 03:20:35,039
Speaker 1: without the Draft show, uh, we might be who knows

3875
03:20:35,120 --> 03:20:36,680
Speaker 1: what the reaction might be, but I think you know,

3876
03:20:36,720 --> 03:20:38,960
Speaker 1: we've done a good job talking about this players as

3877
03:20:39,000 --> 03:20:42,280
Speaker 1: a likely possibility. Yeah, and and again thank you everybody.

3878
03:20:42,280 --> 03:20:44,400
Speaker 1: It's kind of followed along with us. Uh. We still

3879
03:20:44,440 --> 03:20:46,800
Speaker 1: got picks to be made to finish out this round

3880
03:20:47,360 --> 03:20:50,280
Speaker 1: Detroit again, if I could just recap going up to

3881
03:20:50,920 --> 03:20:52,400
Speaker 1: let me go up to there was a trade by

3882
03:20:52,520 --> 03:20:56,560
Speaker 1: Denver UH to Detroit at twenty three to grab Shane Ray.

3883
03:20:57,240 --> 03:21:00,800
Speaker 1: Arizona then took DJ Humphreys. Carol line of followed up

3884
03:21:00,840 --> 03:21:07,360
Speaker 1: with Shack Thompson, and then Baltimore took Brichade Perriman and

3885
03:21:07,560 --> 03:21:09,600
Speaker 1: the wide receiver from Centralorida. And then that left the

3886
03:21:09,720 --> 03:21:13,280
Speaker 1: Cowboys with Byron Jones, who we've been talking about. Denver

3887
03:21:13,480 --> 03:21:16,320
Speaker 1: now back excume me Detroit back in the round with

3888
03:21:16,800 --> 03:21:20,600
Speaker 1: Denver's pick, and they take Lake and Tomlinson the guard

3889
03:21:20,680 --> 03:21:24,920
Speaker 1: from Duke. And so now it means that the Indianapolis

3890
03:21:25,040 --> 03:21:30,440
Speaker 1: Colts would be on the clock, Dane thinking about maybe receiver. Here,

3891
03:21:30,640 --> 03:21:32,640
Speaker 1: you're I think with the Colts. I think all along

3892
03:21:32,720 --> 03:21:36,200
Speaker 1: we've been thinking secondary, maybe pass rush. But I'm with

3893
03:21:36,400 --> 03:21:40,520
Speaker 1: you on receiver. I'm with you on maybe adding some

3894
03:21:40,640 --> 03:21:43,959
Speaker 1: speed here. Yeah, I don't disagree with you at all,

3895
03:21:44,080 --> 03:21:46,840
Speaker 1: right there, I really and for a team that has

3896
03:21:47,000 --> 03:21:49,520
Speaker 1: are already on the roster t Y Hilton, plenty of

3897
03:21:49,600 --> 03:21:53,320
Speaker 1: speed right there. They drafted the old mis receiver last

3898
03:21:53,400 --> 03:21:56,880
Speaker 1: year early, but they could go receiver again here. You

3899
03:21:56,920 --> 03:21:58,800
Speaker 1: want to get Andrew luck weapons. You want to be

3900
03:21:58,840 --> 03:22:04,200
Speaker 1: able to surround him with playmakers. Perriman's off the board,

3901
03:22:04,280 --> 03:22:09,600
Speaker 1: Oglers off the board, thinking Phil Dorset here, Yeah, I

3902
03:22:10,000 --> 03:22:12,160
Speaker 1: think that you're talking about and they've and and this

3903
03:22:12,480 --> 03:22:16,760
Speaker 1: this team has a history of taking Miami receivers. If

3904
03:22:16,840 --> 03:22:19,760
Speaker 1: if you go back and look at and I know, uh,

3905
03:22:19,920 --> 03:22:22,960
Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne one of the greatest ever to to to

3906
03:22:23,200 --> 03:22:26,120
Speaker 1: lace him up there for the Colts. Uh, this is

3907
03:22:26,160 --> 03:22:28,720
Speaker 1: a kid when you talk about and and I love

3908
03:22:28,920 --> 03:22:33,959
Speaker 1: or set for the reason of he plays to his speed.

3909
03:22:34,360 --> 03:22:36,600
Speaker 1: He is a guy when you watch him run, when

3910
03:22:36,640 --> 03:22:40,480
Speaker 1: you watch him run those routes, he plays to his speed.

3911
03:22:40,680 --> 03:22:44,480
Speaker 1: And that's that's impressive. That that and and you see

3912
03:22:44,560 --> 03:22:46,959
Speaker 1: him when he gets a ball in his hands, he's

3913
03:22:47,000 --> 03:22:51,160
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna run through tackles. He's gonna also, uh,

3914
03:22:51,360 --> 03:22:56,000
Speaker 1: you know, separate. This is a really an outstanding, outstanding player.

3915
03:22:56,480 --> 03:22:59,440
Speaker 1: We've seen a little run on receivers here. If this

3916
03:22:59,680 --> 03:23:03,200
Speaker 1: is who we think it could be talking about what

3917
03:23:03,360 --> 03:23:05,640
Speaker 1: six receivers now, well, if you go back and look

3918
03:23:05,720 --> 03:23:10,279
Speaker 1: at it started really with Davante Parker at Miami at fourteen.

3919
03:23:11,040 --> 03:23:15,760
Speaker 1: Then you had uh Aguilar at Philadelphia twenty and then

3920
03:23:15,920 --> 03:23:20,280
Speaker 1: now Perryman at twenty six, and potentially if you if

3921
03:23:20,320 --> 03:23:23,160
Speaker 1: you are right, Dane uh, Philip Tor said, and I

3922
03:23:23,840 --> 03:23:28,400
Speaker 1: see I see nothing but but positive about him as

3923
03:23:28,520 --> 03:23:31,119
Speaker 1: a as a receipt again, I love I love the player.

3924
03:23:31,160 --> 03:23:33,080
Speaker 1: I love the way he plays with a chip. I

3925
03:23:33,120 --> 03:23:34,840
Speaker 1: think he's got a little bit of one of Miami.

3926
03:23:34,920 --> 03:23:37,160
Speaker 1: Those kids, they've all got the swagger. Of course we've

3927
03:23:37,200 --> 03:23:39,920
Speaker 1: all known that. But this kid, man, you throw it

3928
03:23:40,040 --> 03:23:42,680
Speaker 1: to him and he is going to get it done.

3929
03:23:42,720 --> 03:23:46,640
Speaker 1: He can fly, there's no about. Yeah. He worries me somewhat.

3930
03:23:46,879 --> 03:23:49,880
Speaker 1: Um can he stay healthy? Uh? He worries me a

3931
03:23:49,879 --> 03:23:52,440
Speaker 1: little smaller guy. The ball skills are okay, yeah, they're

3932
03:23:52,480 --> 03:23:55,040
Speaker 1: not great, they're not horrible. So but but for a

3933
03:23:55,160 --> 03:23:58,320
Speaker 1: guy that runs that fast and you're talking about potentially

3934
03:23:58,440 --> 03:24:02,640
Speaker 1: down here at down here at at twenty nine, you know,

3935
03:24:02,879 --> 03:24:05,400
Speaker 1: I think that that's where you know you have to

3936
03:24:05,600 --> 03:24:07,840
Speaker 1: you start thinking, okay, waters, are we gonna get a

3937
03:24:07,840 --> 03:24:10,040
Speaker 1: shot at this guy in the second round? You know,

3938
03:24:10,240 --> 03:24:13,640
Speaker 1: is that that's where you start now having to u

3939
03:24:14,240 --> 03:24:16,400
Speaker 1: educate yourself of Okay, we're not gonna get this guy

3940
03:24:16,440 --> 03:24:18,560
Speaker 1: in the second round. We gotta hit this pick right now.

3941
03:24:19,280 --> 03:24:21,920
Speaker 1: I thought I thought Door set at thirty one of

3942
03:24:21,959 --> 03:24:25,120
Speaker 1: the scenes that would be the pick, but maybe not.

3943
03:24:25,360 --> 03:24:27,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run Due TV real quick. Okay, I'm gonna

3944
03:24:27,760 --> 03:24:30,080
Speaker 1: leave you this tweet from Des Bryant, who said that

3945
03:24:30,200 --> 03:24:34,280
Speaker 1: Byron Jones he better be a dog. I'm sure. I'm

3946
03:24:34,320 --> 03:24:36,680
Speaker 1: sure Byron Jones will be happy to you. Guys. Let

3947
03:24:36,680 --> 03:24:38,959
Speaker 1: me to run anybody in Nick Keeping or anybody. Now,

3948
03:24:39,000 --> 03:24:42,160
Speaker 1: we're good, Okay, we'll finish this guy's go. Yeah, thank

3949
03:24:42,160 --> 03:24:44,879
Speaker 1: you so much, man, I appreciate that. Steve Dennis from

3950
03:24:44,920 --> 03:24:49,039
Speaker 1: our television department. Uh, Dame Brugler again joining you here

3951
03:24:49,560 --> 03:24:54,000
Speaker 1: with me finishing out this draft. We've only got uh,

3952
03:24:54,280 --> 03:24:58,200
Speaker 1: let's see four more picks to be made. Uh, the

3953
03:24:58,680 --> 03:25:01,360
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts or on the clock, we were trying to

3954
03:25:01,640 --> 03:25:05,640
Speaker 1: speculate who they potentially could take. Let's focus ahead. Maybe

3955
03:25:07,080 --> 03:25:10,360
Speaker 1: Green Bay would be the next pick at thirty. You

3956
03:25:10,520 --> 03:25:13,880
Speaker 1: talked about Randall quite a bit. Well, and could this

3957
03:25:14,080 --> 03:25:18,000
Speaker 1: be You've talked about him potentially as a first round

3958
03:25:18,160 --> 03:25:20,760
Speaker 1: type of a talent, and here I am. I mocked

3959
03:25:20,840 --> 03:25:25,080
Speaker 1: him as a sixty. My gut tells me I'm not

3960
03:25:25,160 --> 03:25:27,280
Speaker 1: gonna be right about that at all. Well, and one

3961
03:25:27,320 --> 03:25:31,039
Speaker 1: of my quote unquote bold predictions was Damarius Randall would

3962
03:25:31,040 --> 03:25:33,680
Speaker 1: be the first safety drafted and in the first round. Yeah,

3963
03:25:33,760 --> 03:25:35,720
Speaker 1: so we we're running out of picks here, We'll see.

3964
03:25:36,959 --> 03:25:40,880
Speaker 1: I'm not feeling good about my Bryce Petty. Okay, okay, Well,

3965
03:25:41,440 --> 03:25:44,160
Speaker 1: Garrison was telling me we're about to go to the Prescott.

3966
03:25:44,440 --> 03:25:47,360
Speaker 1: Ready to go? Now, we're okay. In about one minute,

3967
03:25:47,400 --> 03:25:51,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna go and hear from Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones,

3968
03:25:52,440 --> 03:25:56,039
Speaker 1: probably Jason Garrett, all gonna talk to us about Byron

3969
03:25:56,160 --> 03:25:58,720
Speaker 1: Jones and where they had him on the board. I'm

3970
03:25:58,760 --> 03:26:02,040
Speaker 1: sure Gary will gonna be Jerry will be very giddy

3971
03:26:02,160 --> 03:26:04,360
Speaker 1: and happy. I'm sure we'll hear all the great things

3972
03:26:05,000 --> 03:26:07,000
Speaker 1: from Jason Garrett about the right kind of guy. Okay,

3973
03:26:07,160 --> 03:26:10,200
Speaker 1: can't we got The Colts selection is coming up right now,

3974
03:26:10,280 --> 03:26:17,080
Speaker 1: so let's go to the Colts. The Indianapolis Colts select

3975
03:26:17,920 --> 03:26:21,840
Speaker 1: Philip dors Here we go, six wide receiver off the board. Yeah,

3976
03:26:22,000 --> 03:26:24,920
Speaker 1: and a player that heck, if you're the Colts, you're

3977
03:26:25,040 --> 03:26:28,560
Speaker 1: just put speed out there. Let Andrew luck, you know,

3978
03:26:28,760 --> 03:26:33,040
Speaker 1: distribute the rock and uh, good luck and good thing

3979
03:26:33,080 --> 03:26:37,000
Speaker 1: to Tuck. The Texans drafted Kevin Johnson because they're gonna

3980
03:26:37,000 --> 03:26:39,160
Speaker 1: need all the corners they could they can use to

3981
03:26:39,280 --> 03:26:42,880
Speaker 1: cover these guys. And look look at port Jacory Shephard. Yeah,

3982
03:26:42,959 --> 03:26:44,880
Speaker 1: this and we were there that we were watching We're

3983
03:26:44,920 --> 03:26:49,400
Speaker 1: watching Senior Bowl, uh tape right now, and yeah, he was.

3984
03:26:49,640 --> 03:26:52,600
Speaker 1: You could definitely see the separation blurs. I was. I

3985
03:26:52,720 --> 03:26:55,520
Speaker 1: was sitting with Bucky Brooks, h with the you know,

3986
03:26:55,600 --> 03:26:58,440
Speaker 1: with the NFL networking, Bucky old former scout, and he

3987
03:26:58,560 --> 03:27:00,520
Speaker 1: and I were talking. He goes, he was broad, has

3988
03:27:00,560 --> 03:27:02,560
Speaker 1: you ever seen this kid? I said, no, I don't

3989
03:27:02,600 --> 03:27:04,119
Speaker 1: know much about him, and I was just getting into

3990
03:27:04,160 --> 03:27:07,200
Speaker 1: the draft and he goes, watch this kid run, and

3991
03:27:07,600 --> 03:27:11,680
Speaker 1: it was there was some serious separation. Honestly, I gave

3992
03:27:11,760 --> 03:27:13,880
Speaker 1: him a second third round grade. I did because I

3993
03:27:14,200 --> 03:27:15,920
Speaker 1: worry about a lot of things, the ball skills, that

3994
03:27:15,959 --> 03:27:18,160
Speaker 1: worry about him staying healthy. But with that speed, I

3995
03:27:18,280 --> 03:27:20,880
Speaker 1: understand why you're taking him late first round. Absolutely, well,

3996
03:27:20,879 --> 03:27:23,040
Speaker 1: I was. I was luckily I had him in the

3997
03:27:23,080 --> 03:27:25,280
Speaker 1: second round. And again you're looking for guys at this

3998
03:27:25,360 --> 03:27:28,040
Speaker 1: point at the end. This guy's got a lot of

3999
03:27:28,120 --> 03:27:30,440
Speaker 1: talent and he does. So. All right, we go forward

4000
03:27:30,520 --> 03:27:33,920
Speaker 1: now to h with the thirtieth pick with the Green

4001
03:27:34,000 --> 03:27:37,200
Speaker 1: Bay Packers, and I you as one of your five.

4002
03:27:37,280 --> 03:27:40,320
Speaker 1: You mentioned that you talked about Randall safety. It's being

4003
03:27:40,360 --> 03:27:42,240
Speaker 1: when the first safe first round. Yeah, and I think

4004
03:27:42,280 --> 03:27:45,440
Speaker 1: that's when we talk about Randall. I think we could

4005
03:27:45,440 --> 03:27:47,320
Speaker 1: be talking. We talked about a player that's in the

4006
03:27:47,440 --> 03:27:51,360
Speaker 1: nickel can play corner. And for the Packers, I think

4007
03:27:51,400 --> 03:27:56,720
Speaker 1: that versatility is awfully intriguing. They have a need a corner,

4008
03:27:56,840 --> 03:27:59,400
Speaker 1: they need some depth there. Yeah, I think you know,

4009
03:27:59,520 --> 03:28:01,800
Speaker 1: this makes some sense. We could look at linebacker here

4010
03:28:01,840 --> 03:28:06,120
Speaker 1: for them, Malcolm Brown still on the board, defensive tackle

4011
03:28:06,400 --> 03:28:09,560
Speaker 1: right if you look, let me just read I'm scrolling

4012
03:28:09,680 --> 03:28:13,240
Speaker 1: up to the team needs here for the Green Bay Packers.

4013
03:28:13,360 --> 03:28:16,000
Speaker 1: But safety seem one. And again, that was a team

4014
03:28:16,280 --> 03:28:17,800
Speaker 1: that I got to study at the end of the

4015
03:28:17,920 --> 03:28:21,280
Speaker 1: year because of the playoff game, and it seemed to

4016
03:28:21,360 --> 03:28:24,720
Speaker 1: me that the Packers, we're thinking about. So let's go

4017
03:28:24,840 --> 03:28:30,240
Speaker 1: to the press conference for the announcement. Damn goose quiet

4018
03:28:30,320 --> 03:28:36,960
Speaker 1: in here. Okay, we'll be short with our statements and

4019
03:28:37,040 --> 03:28:42,200
Speaker 1: then basically go questions more than anything. But we've got

4020
03:28:42,280 --> 03:28:47,160
Speaker 1: a guy here that we probably knew as much about

4021
03:28:47,200 --> 03:28:51,200
Speaker 1: as anybody in the draft. Pascaloni coach team, and we

4022
03:28:51,400 --> 03:28:56,640
Speaker 1: had scout that knew his position, coaches and spent a

4023
03:28:56,680 --> 03:28:59,160
Speaker 1: lot of time with him. So we felt real good

4024
03:28:59,240 --> 03:29:05,000
Speaker 1: about our evaluation of Byron and h and I'm talking

4025
03:29:05,040 --> 03:29:08,240
Speaker 1: about the evaluation of him as a player. He did

4026
03:29:08,360 --> 03:29:13,000
Speaker 1: play two years at safety as well as his uh

4027
03:29:13,879 --> 03:29:17,160
Speaker 1: what he can do at a corner, so that was

4028
03:29:17,240 --> 03:29:22,720
Speaker 1: pretty prominent in our decision to take him. Stephen, Well,

4029
03:29:22,760 --> 03:29:24,280
Speaker 1: I just think, uh, you know, at the end of

4030
03:29:24,320 --> 03:29:26,360
Speaker 1: the day, I think, you know, our work paid off.

4031
03:29:26,440 --> 03:29:28,680
Speaker 1: I think we, you know, had really done our work

4032
03:29:28,760 --> 03:29:30,280
Speaker 1: on this. We knew it was gonna be a long

4033
03:29:30,360 --> 03:29:33,480
Speaker 1: wait when you're down at twenty seven, and uh, but

4034
03:29:33,879 --> 03:29:36,280
Speaker 1: we felt really good about what might happen for us.

4035
03:29:36,320 --> 03:29:38,360
Speaker 1: And you know, we're trying to get linked in the

4036
03:29:38,440 --> 03:29:42,800
Speaker 1: secondary and uh, obviously he fits that. And uh he's

4037
03:29:42,800 --> 03:29:46,080
Speaker 1: a really good football player, a really good person, both

4038
03:29:46,160 --> 03:29:50,440
Speaker 1: on and off the field, great character and obviously think

4039
03:29:50,520 --> 03:29:55,440
Speaker 1: we made a good, solid pick here. Yeah, certainly the

4040
03:29:55,560 --> 03:29:59,000
Speaker 1: right kind of guy, A guy who is just a

4041
03:29:59,080 --> 03:30:03,160
Speaker 1: really impressive football player. He showed that as a starter

4042
03:30:03,320 --> 03:30:06,240
Speaker 1: for two years at safety and then starting a corner

4043
03:30:07,000 --> 03:30:10,920
Speaker 1: for two years. Productive player, a guy who plays the

4044
03:30:11,040 --> 03:30:14,120
Speaker 1: right way, a guy that has a tremendous amount of

4045
03:30:14,160 --> 03:30:17,360
Speaker 1: potential but also has a chance to play early because

4046
03:30:17,400 --> 03:30:21,160
Speaker 1: of his athletic ability, his versatility, and Frank's experience. So

4047
03:30:21,360 --> 03:30:23,800
Speaker 1: we spent a lot of time with him. Coach Pasqualone

4048
03:30:24,560 --> 03:30:27,920
Speaker 1: coached him, and we got an up close view of

4049
03:30:28,040 --> 03:30:32,320
Speaker 1: him from our conversations with him and had a chance

4050
03:30:32,360 --> 03:30:34,600
Speaker 1: to bring him in here, had great visits with him,

4051
03:30:35,200 --> 03:30:37,120
Speaker 1: We worked him out, spent a lot of time with him.

4052
03:30:37,879 --> 03:30:39,480
Speaker 1: We think he's going to be a good football player.

4053
03:30:42,200 --> 03:30:44,080
Speaker 1: Was a hard waiting and then seeing if he was

4054
03:30:44,120 --> 03:30:47,520
Speaker 1: in a ball Were there any moments where he thought

4055
03:30:47,640 --> 03:30:50,360
Speaker 1: he could go here or to jovin pretty good intelligence

4056
03:30:50,400 --> 03:30:53,400
Speaker 1: that he would be there at twenty seven for you, No,

4057
03:30:53,800 --> 03:30:56,240
Speaker 1: we did not have any intelligence had made us think

4058
03:30:56,280 --> 03:30:59,760
Speaker 1: he'd be there at all, And it was hard waiting

4059
03:31:00,680 --> 03:31:07,480
Speaker 1: for sure and h but uh it it worked out

4060
03:31:07,520 --> 03:31:10,480
Speaker 1: for us. I think we were fortunate for when you

4061
03:31:11,280 --> 03:31:15,520
Speaker 1: put in the crosshairs our team needs the type player

4062
03:31:15,840 --> 03:31:23,400
Speaker 1: is our coaches. Not only did his coaches, but our

4063
03:31:23,480 --> 03:31:28,600
Speaker 1: coaches were particularly on the table for him throughout our

4064
03:31:28,640 --> 03:31:33,680
Speaker 1: evaluation process. All position coaches I'm talking, did you ever

4065
03:31:33,920 --> 03:31:35,720
Speaker 1: get anty and think about moving up for him or

4066
03:31:36,040 --> 03:31:38,640
Speaker 1: I mean because he was falling or coming to you

4067
03:31:39,440 --> 03:31:41,520
Speaker 1: ever get a point where you wanted to need to

4068
03:31:41,560 --> 03:31:45,200
Speaker 1: move up for him? Uh, there's an urge. There's an

4069
03:31:45,320 --> 03:31:48,600
Speaker 1: urge as you as you watch twenty six other players

4070
03:31:48,920 --> 03:31:52,360
Speaker 1: roll out there. Uh, there there is an urge. But

4071
03:31:53,520 --> 03:31:58,640
Speaker 1: that is the art of of the process of so

4072
03:31:58,800 --> 03:32:03,320
Speaker 1: to speak, to use your word, but seriously, there that's

4073
03:32:03,360 --> 03:32:08,440
Speaker 1: the anxiety that is involved there. Uh. We didn't really

4074
03:32:09,160 --> 03:32:15,959
Speaker 1: see a lot of trading possibilities, but we certainly we're

4075
03:32:16,080 --> 03:32:19,240
Speaker 1: keeping our eyes open in case a real bargain had

4076
03:32:19,280 --> 03:32:25,560
Speaker 1: come along. Regarding a trade consideration at all, we didn't

4077
03:32:25,640 --> 03:32:31,360
Speaker 1: we uh have him, had him rated high on our board,

4078
03:32:32,879 --> 03:32:40,040
Speaker 1: but we also uh from the get go have pinpointed

4079
03:32:41,040 --> 03:32:44,560
Speaker 1: if we could not reach for a player, but if

4080
03:32:44,600 --> 03:32:49,760
Speaker 1: we could find a player, uh with Hardy having brought

4081
03:32:49,800 --> 03:32:52,280
Speaker 1: in Hearty, but if we could find a player that

4082
03:32:52,440 --> 03:32:58,439
Speaker 1: could potentially be a corner that if we get Claybourne

4083
03:32:59,640 --> 03:33:03,120
Speaker 1: back we are anticipating and hopeful that could also be

4084
03:33:03,320 --> 03:33:07,160
Speaker 1: a free safety and an excellent free safety. Then that

4085
03:33:07,360 --> 03:33:10,280
Speaker 1: was the ideal fit. As far as the position to

4086
03:33:10,400 --> 03:33:14,360
Speaker 1: draft for us, there was no question and so uh

4087
03:33:15,360 --> 03:33:20,160
Speaker 1: we we were never tempted to do anything moving around

4088
03:33:20,840 --> 03:33:25,760
Speaker 1: to do anything about any other player up there. Uh,

4089
03:33:27,520 --> 03:33:30,320
Speaker 1: especially the player you're talking about there. And then when

4090
03:33:30,400 --> 03:33:33,040
Speaker 1: we were able to get the player that we really wanted,

4091
03:33:33,080 --> 03:33:36,280
Speaker 1: the position that we wanted, then that made that non

4092
03:33:36,360 --> 03:33:39,880
Speaker 1: consideration to get it done. No, lords, we waited on

4093
03:33:40,000 --> 03:33:41,600
Speaker 1: a chance to see if we were going to be

4094
03:33:41,640 --> 03:33:45,320
Speaker 1: able to get this corner safety. We talk about paying

4095
03:33:47,560 --> 03:33:50,640
Speaker 1: his ability to do both. Yeah. Again, a lot of

4096
03:33:50,720 --> 03:33:52,640
Speaker 1: times will take a player and you'll project him to

4097
03:33:52,720 --> 03:33:55,760
Speaker 1: another position, say he has the physical traits to go

4098
03:33:55,959 --> 03:33:59,280
Speaker 1: be this. Uh, he has the physical traits to go

4099
03:33:59,400 --> 03:34:01,640
Speaker 1: play safe. He even though he's played corner of the

4100
03:34:01,720 --> 03:34:03,720
Speaker 1: last couple of years. But what gives us a lot

4101
03:34:03,760 --> 03:34:07,039
Speaker 1: of confidences you see him play free safety for two

4102
03:34:07,160 --> 03:34:09,440
Speaker 1: years as a starter. They had two real good corners

4103
03:34:09,480 --> 03:34:11,760
Speaker 1: when he was a young player coming into school there,

4104
03:34:11,840 --> 03:34:13,320
Speaker 1: so they wanted to get him out on the field,

4105
03:34:13,360 --> 03:34:15,320
Speaker 1: and he played safety. So you see that tape. You

4106
03:34:15,480 --> 03:34:17,800
Speaker 1: like what you see on that tape as a young player.

4107
03:34:18,120 --> 03:34:22,640
Speaker 1: So I do believe it's a realistic projection for him

4108
03:34:22,680 --> 03:34:24,640
Speaker 1: to play corner in this league and also played free

4109
03:34:24,640 --> 03:34:26,720
Speaker 1: safety in this league. He has the athletic ability, he

4110
03:34:26,760 --> 03:34:29,400
Speaker 1: has the experience, and you know, he's one of those

4111
03:34:29,440 --> 03:34:33,240
Speaker 1: guys that you really thinks a great upside the first

4112
03:34:33,280 --> 03:34:35,520
Speaker 1: tournament one or the other as a rookie. We'll have

4113
03:34:35,640 --> 03:34:38,800
Speaker 1: those conversations. We do anticipate him starting out as a

4114
03:34:38,879 --> 03:34:42,240
Speaker 1: cornerback and then depending on how the health of the

4115
03:34:42,320 --> 03:34:45,160
Speaker 1: secondary is, you know, the opportunity to move him to

4116
03:34:45,160 --> 03:34:49,400
Speaker 1: safety is certainly realistic. And you know, again Mo Claiborne

4117
03:34:49,440 --> 03:34:52,040
Speaker 1: someone who's worked very hard or hopefully he can come

4118
03:34:52,080 --> 03:34:55,400
Speaker 1: back and get to the level he's that we think

4119
03:34:55,440 --> 03:34:59,680
Speaker 1: he's capable of playing at. And again, his flexibility, his

4120
03:35:00,080 --> 03:35:03,360
Speaker 1: letic ability, his experience, talking about Byron Jones, gives you

4121
03:35:03,360 --> 03:35:06,880
Speaker 1: a chance to play a couple different spots. Us he

4122
03:35:07,000 --> 03:35:11,560
Speaker 1: had this crazy broad jump, but the combine recrup did

4123
03:35:11,640 --> 03:35:14,160
Speaker 1: that jump out of you all did on June when

4124
03:35:14,760 --> 03:35:17,400
Speaker 1: he did that the combine, I mean, did he he

4125
03:35:17,520 --> 03:35:19,480
Speaker 1: kind of popped out, but that's one of the reasons

4126
03:35:19,520 --> 03:35:21,120
Speaker 1: you go to the combine. You want to see these

4127
03:35:21,160 --> 03:35:23,280
Speaker 1: guys move around. You want to see him run, you

4128
03:35:23,320 --> 03:35:24,760
Speaker 1: want to see him jump, you want to see him

4129
03:35:24,800 --> 03:35:27,760
Speaker 1: change direction, And certainly that was something that was very impressive.

4130
03:35:28,720 --> 03:35:31,440
Speaker 1: Not only was the broad jump great, but the vertical

4131
03:35:31,520 --> 03:35:34,640
Speaker 1: leap was outstanding. But we also thought the movement was

4132
03:35:34,720 --> 03:35:37,440
Speaker 1: really good. So he had an impressive combine workout. But

4133
03:35:37,560 --> 03:35:39,760
Speaker 1: let's go back to his experience as a player, to

4134
03:35:39,920 --> 03:35:42,520
Speaker 1: your starter safety, to your starter at corner. This is

4135
03:35:42,560 --> 03:35:45,240
Speaker 1: not a workout warrior that we drafted. We drafted a

4136
03:35:45,280 --> 03:35:48,560
Speaker 1: football player we really think plays the right way and

4137
03:35:48,600 --> 03:35:50,520
Speaker 1: as a chance to really develop and a couple of

4138
03:35:50,560 --> 03:35:52,800
Speaker 1: different spots for us, you have him as a verst

4139
03:35:52,879 --> 03:35:58,840
Speaker 1: round great inquire to Toma. We don't get into our grade,

4140
03:35:58,920 --> 03:36:06,560
Speaker 1: but he was certainly in our top fifteen sixteen players

4141
03:36:06,600 --> 03:36:11,240
Speaker 1: on the board. Stephen, after seeing how this first round way,

4142
03:36:11,560 --> 03:36:13,840
Speaker 1: obviously you know you can't really reject he's going to

4143
03:36:13,920 --> 03:36:16,359
Speaker 1: fall to twenty seven. But does it give me confidence

4144
03:36:16,400 --> 03:36:19,120
Speaker 1: going intomorrow that you know some guys might slip to

4145
03:36:19,200 --> 03:36:21,920
Speaker 1: you guys there, Yeah, I think it does I think

4146
03:36:21,959 --> 03:36:23,360
Speaker 1: we talked about it, and I think this was going

4147
03:36:23,400 --> 03:36:25,800
Speaker 1: to be the hardest part of the draft. I think

4148
03:36:25,840 --> 03:36:28,360
Speaker 1: once you get into the you know, you get into

4149
03:36:28,440 --> 03:36:31,600
Speaker 1: the second round, you know, the opinions start to vary

4150
03:36:31,800 --> 03:36:34,800
Speaker 1: in terms of what people want and what fits their

4151
03:36:34,879 --> 03:36:38,039
Speaker 1: systems and that type of thing. And I think there's

4152
03:36:38,040 --> 03:36:40,640
Speaker 1: a better chance that, you know, some of the guys

4153
03:36:40,720 --> 03:36:43,240
Speaker 1: that we think might really work for us, that we

4154
03:36:43,400 --> 03:36:46,200
Speaker 1: have on our board, I think it gets easier to

4155
03:36:46,400 --> 03:36:49,320
Speaker 1: feel like they may come to you where we're sitting.

4156
03:36:49,560 --> 03:36:52,840
Speaker 1: So I do think and I think we thought coming

4157
03:36:52,920 --> 03:36:54,680
Speaker 1: in here that this would be the toughest part of

4158
03:36:54,760 --> 03:36:57,440
Speaker 1: it is waiting, you know, when everybody has a lot

4159
03:36:57,480 --> 03:37:01,040
Speaker 1: of these gays sorted pretty similar in the first fifteen picks,

4160
03:37:01,080 --> 03:37:03,840
Speaker 1: and then you start to see some variations. But you know,

4161
03:37:03,920 --> 03:37:06,960
Speaker 1: I think from here on out, uh, you know, we

4162
03:37:07,040 --> 03:37:10,760
Speaker 1: could see some guys that will feel really good about

4163
03:37:10,840 --> 03:37:12,760
Speaker 1: and maybe not have to sweat as much. Maybe we're

4164
03:37:12,840 --> 03:37:17,520
Speaker 1: choosing between two or three gas. You mend your mold.

4165
03:37:17,800 --> 03:37:20,960
Speaker 1: How does this decision affect the opening decision you have

4166
03:37:21,080 --> 03:37:24,360
Speaker 1: in the situation you have with car and Scan? How

4167
03:37:24,400 --> 03:37:27,720
Speaker 1: does bringing on Jones It is not it does not.

4168
03:37:28,680 --> 03:37:33,560
Speaker 1: We were so fortunate last year to play and have

4169
03:37:33,840 --> 03:37:37,920
Speaker 1: car and Scandric and without Mold not to have had

4170
03:37:37,959 --> 03:37:42,000
Speaker 1: an injury there. With our corners, this was the closest

4171
03:37:42,080 --> 03:37:44,480
Speaker 1: thing to a position that we thought we could get

4172
03:37:44,600 --> 03:37:49,160
Speaker 1: in trouble with was our corner. The next thing that

4173
03:37:49,320 --> 03:37:53,440
Speaker 1: we thought we could improve the defense as much as

4174
03:37:53,520 --> 03:37:58,160
Speaker 1: any place and do some things we haven't done, is

4175
03:37:58,240 --> 03:38:02,520
Speaker 1: to have a free safety type roaming so to speak,

4176
03:38:02,600 --> 03:38:05,080
Speaker 1: that you really would think of a free safety. So

4177
03:38:05,240 --> 03:38:08,960
Speaker 1: a combination of things happened here. It really did address

4178
03:38:11,280 --> 03:38:15,560
Speaker 1: some pretty dire circumstances numbers at corner, but it also

4179
03:38:15,840 --> 03:38:20,240
Speaker 1: allows us to possibly do some things at safety. So

4180
03:38:20,720 --> 03:38:23,560
Speaker 1: it had two or three things. The most important thing

4181
03:38:23,800 --> 03:38:26,400
Speaker 1: is that we thought we could live if we didn't

4182
03:38:26,879 --> 03:38:32,320
Speaker 1: strike well at pass rusher. We thought in this draft

4183
03:38:32,360 --> 03:38:34,800
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, we thought we could live if we

4184
03:38:34,920 --> 03:38:38,200
Speaker 1: didn't strike well at running back, A place where we

4185
03:38:38,440 --> 03:38:41,959
Speaker 1: did not think that we would feel good in sleep, right,

4186
03:38:42,160 --> 03:38:44,480
Speaker 1: is if we didn't do something there in our secondary

4187
03:38:44,560 --> 03:38:48,440
Speaker 1: at corner in case Clayburn doesn't come back. But also

4188
03:38:48,520 --> 03:38:50,640
Speaker 1: at the same time, maybe give us a chance to

4189
03:38:50,720 --> 03:38:54,280
Speaker 1: do something special for our defense at free safety. The

4190
03:38:54,360 --> 03:38:56,640
Speaker 1: option the moment, the free safety, you're comfortable, you feel

4191
03:38:56,680 --> 03:39:01,240
Speaker 1: good about Carl scanneron being on his team next year, Well,

4192
03:39:01,280 --> 03:39:04,000
Speaker 1: I they're on the team, and when I when you

4193
03:39:04,080 --> 03:39:08,360
Speaker 1: say I feel good, they're they're certainly on our team

4194
03:39:08,480 --> 03:39:12,720
Speaker 1: and as it sits right now, we uh plan on

4195
03:39:13,480 --> 03:39:15,320
Speaker 1: them being a part of the team in the future.

4196
03:39:16,959 --> 03:39:22,760
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones, Jason Garrett walks you through what they feel

4197
03:39:22,840 --> 03:39:27,680
Speaker 1: like with Byron Jones, his strengths, where he was positioned

4198
03:39:27,760 --> 03:39:30,200
Speaker 1: on the board. Anything surprised you dained As far as

4199
03:39:31,440 --> 03:39:34,840
Speaker 1: talking about him potentially playing He'll start off as a corner,

4200
03:39:35,440 --> 03:39:38,720
Speaker 1: possibly a playing safety, you know, Jason Garrett talked about that. Yeah,

4201
03:39:38,720 --> 03:39:42,200
Speaker 1: I think we both believe he was drafted to be

4202
03:39:42,280 --> 03:39:45,240
Speaker 1: a corner. But having that versatility to play safety if

4203
03:39:45,320 --> 03:39:48,320
Speaker 1: needed is just a bonus it gives you. And that's

4204
03:39:48,360 --> 03:39:50,720
Speaker 1: why versatility we talk about it. It's more than just

4205
03:39:50,800 --> 03:39:54,400
Speaker 1: a buzzword. It's it's something that these coaches really buy into.

4206
03:39:54,680 --> 03:39:56,280
Speaker 1: If you have a chance to have a player that

4207
03:39:56,879 --> 03:40:00,360
Speaker 1: gives you value at another position. In case Avenger, who

4208
03:40:00,440 --> 03:40:03,360
Speaker 1: knows how the secondary will play out. But for Byron Jones,

4209
03:40:03,640 --> 03:40:06,160
Speaker 1: a player, I think we both think his futures at corner,

4210
03:40:06,240 --> 03:40:08,840
Speaker 1: but if something happens at safety, that could be the

4211
03:40:08,920 --> 03:40:11,600
Speaker 1: direction he goes. Yeah, and that's I totally agree with

4212
03:40:11,680 --> 03:40:14,360
Speaker 1: you on that. You know, the I just like the

4213
03:40:15,000 --> 03:40:18,360
Speaker 1: size of the player. I like that. Yeah. The athletic

4214
03:40:18,400 --> 03:40:21,600
Speaker 1: ability is rare when you look at all the things

4215
03:40:22,360 --> 03:40:26,280
Speaker 1: that Byron Jones uh does uh, you know when you

4216
03:40:26,480 --> 03:40:28,440
Speaker 1: talk about working out and things like that, I think too.

4217
03:40:28,600 --> 03:40:31,360
Speaker 1: You know, Bill Jones even brought up the uh, the

4218
03:40:31,720 --> 03:40:35,280
Speaker 1: the thought of him eighteen times with the shoulder. Yeah,

4219
03:40:35,320 --> 03:40:37,920
Speaker 1: I think that's a very positive sign. Definitely that you

4220
03:40:37,959 --> 03:40:40,880
Speaker 1: would you would not if you're coming off a shoulder

4221
03:40:40,920 --> 03:40:44,560
Speaker 1: and all that. Usually those defensive backs shy away from

4222
03:40:44,600 --> 03:40:46,600
Speaker 1: that that you know, they'll they'll do anything in their

4223
03:40:46,640 --> 03:40:52,720
Speaker 1: power to keep from having to do anything's bench press wise,

4224
03:40:52,879 --> 03:40:55,400
Speaker 1: and the fact that he stepped up and was able

4225
03:40:55,440 --> 03:40:58,200
Speaker 1: to show the scouts something I worried with Kevin Johnson, right,

4226
03:40:58,320 --> 03:41:01,039
Speaker 1: he chose not to do the bench press the combine,

4227
03:41:01,080 --> 03:41:02,920
Speaker 1: chose not to do it at the prode. Yeah, and

4228
03:41:03,120 --> 03:41:05,840
Speaker 1: so now you have those questions, you know, but I

4229
03:41:06,000 --> 03:41:09,960
Speaker 1: think that when you look at the fit and you know,

4230
03:41:10,400 --> 03:41:13,320
Speaker 1: it was it was very clear though, uh, that the

4231
03:41:13,440 --> 03:41:17,280
Speaker 1: Cowboys once they saw the board. I was a little

4232
03:41:17,400 --> 03:41:23,640
Speaker 1: nervous myself at sixteen when and you rightfully so uh

4233
03:41:23,760 --> 03:41:29,360
Speaker 1: predicted Kevin Johnson would be a Houston Texan that, okay,

4234
03:41:29,400 --> 03:41:32,880
Speaker 1: would the Cowboys have to be aggressive here? And if

4235
03:41:32,959 --> 03:41:37,440
Speaker 1: you look at the picks, only Marcus Peters who the Cowboys?

4236
03:41:37,840 --> 03:41:40,680
Speaker 1: We don't know. We'll eventually find out. I'll find out.

4237
03:41:40,720 --> 03:41:43,280
Speaker 1: You'll find out either had him on the board or

4238
03:41:43,440 --> 03:41:47,120
Speaker 1: off the board. And my guests would be that of

4239
03:41:47,280 --> 03:41:52,440
Speaker 1: their first round grades that that Wayne's Johnson and then

4240
03:41:52,600 --> 03:41:55,560
Speaker 1: Jones would be the guys that they that they were

4241
03:41:55,680 --> 03:41:58,120
Speaker 1: looking at at at the cornerback spot. And so you know,

4242
03:41:58,240 --> 03:42:00,680
Speaker 1: as soon as, like you said, when the corner started

4243
03:42:00,720 --> 03:42:03,680
Speaker 1: coming off the board and the teens at twenty that's

4244
03:42:03,720 --> 03:42:06,000
Speaker 1: when you start really sweating it. And you know they

4245
03:42:06,160 --> 03:42:08,720
Speaker 1: resisted the urge to go up and get that player.

4246
03:42:08,800 --> 03:42:11,240
Speaker 1: They waited it out, and you know what, it's a risk,

4247
03:42:11,400 --> 03:42:13,760
Speaker 1: but it's a risk that paid off for this team

4248
03:42:14,120 --> 03:42:16,720
Speaker 1: getting their guy at twenty seven. Well, and and we

4249
03:42:16,840 --> 03:42:20,040
Speaker 1: will go through, uh, some of the picks that have

4250
03:42:20,240 --> 03:42:26,360
Speaker 1: been made. While the press conference was going on, we

4251
03:42:26,520 --> 03:42:31,280
Speaker 1: talked about Lake and Tomlinson. The went to the Detroit Lions.

4252
03:42:31,400 --> 03:42:34,360
Speaker 1: The guard from Duke, first Duke player picked in the

4253
03:42:34,440 --> 03:42:38,760
Speaker 1: first round since nineteen forty two? How about that? Anyway,

4254
03:42:38,959 --> 03:42:41,800
Speaker 1: after that would be Philip Dorsett went to went to

4255
03:42:42,080 --> 03:42:45,600
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts, the wide receiver from University of Miami.

4256
03:42:45,959 --> 03:42:47,840
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers took and I thought it was an

4257
03:42:47,920 --> 03:42:51,680
Speaker 1: unusual pick here de Marius Randall, the safety from Arizona State.

4258
03:42:51,800 --> 03:42:56,480
Speaker 1: Starting to hear some things that Randall potentially couldn't back

4259
03:42:57,360 --> 03:43:00,240
Speaker 1: here for the Green Bay Packers. Your thoughts on that

4260
03:43:00,560 --> 03:43:03,040
Speaker 1: we talked about all along him being probably a nickel

4261
03:43:03,120 --> 03:43:07,879
Speaker 1: corner to begin his career. You see that type of athleticism. Um,

4262
03:43:08,120 --> 03:43:11,160
Speaker 1: and I get it, and I certainly understand if that's

4263
03:43:11,200 --> 03:43:13,120
Speaker 1: what the Packers plan on doing. I think he can

4264
03:43:13,160 --> 03:43:15,920
Speaker 1: help out right away as a nickel. So I like

4265
03:43:16,080 --> 03:43:19,360
Speaker 1: the pick. And uh, it's something that I think were

4266
03:43:19,440 --> 03:43:22,440
Speaker 1: not really a shock. You thought maybe the Packers were

4267
03:43:22,440 --> 03:43:25,360
Speaker 1: gonna go secondary there. So Damarius Randall, it's a good

4268
03:43:25,360 --> 03:43:27,040
Speaker 1: pick for Green Bay. Yeah it is. And and that

4269
03:43:27,160 --> 03:43:30,320
Speaker 1: was the same that was a guy that I mocked to, uh,

4270
03:43:30,480 --> 03:43:35,880
Speaker 1: the to the the Cowboys in the second round. So yeah,

4271
03:43:35,959 --> 03:43:39,119
Speaker 1: it was kind of that Nick Eatman joining us, Now,

4272
03:43:39,240 --> 03:43:41,440
Speaker 1: what's up, guys? Now? What is we got a secret

4273
03:43:41,480 --> 03:43:43,520
Speaker 1: call coming in or something? That secret call. But he's

4274
03:43:43,760 --> 03:43:45,800
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna call soon. I know, I'm he's

4275
03:43:45,800 --> 03:43:49,160
Speaker 1: supposed to. Okay, about five minutes. Okay, okay, Ken Garrison

4276
03:43:49,200 --> 03:43:51,200
Speaker 1: tell us that he will be in five minutes. Uh.

4277
03:43:51,360 --> 03:43:56,120
Speaker 1: Talk about we were visiting about Byron Jones. We have

4278
03:43:56,320 --> 03:43:59,359
Speaker 1: our thoughts about what we saw on tape at Connecticut,

4279
03:43:59,520 --> 03:44:02,720
Speaker 1: Jason Eric Stephen Jones. Everybody had their opinion about him,

4280
03:44:03,240 --> 03:44:05,400
Speaker 1: some of the thoughts that you have about the particular pay.

4281
03:44:05,520 --> 03:44:08,120
Speaker 1: And again, I don't even dare to say that I

4282
03:44:08,480 --> 03:44:11,040
Speaker 1: study these guys anywhere close to what you guys are,

4283
03:44:11,080 --> 03:44:13,680
Speaker 1: but I'm just a little surprised when I hear about

4284
03:44:13,760 --> 03:44:16,680
Speaker 1: how much his versatility comes into play. I mean, I

4285
03:44:16,760 --> 03:44:19,720
Speaker 1: know he was playing corner, but they keep talking about

4286
03:44:19,760 --> 03:44:23,200
Speaker 1: how he could play safety. ACU just second, Nick, I

4287
03:44:23,240 --> 03:44:24,960
Speaker 1: think we're gonna go. This is the final pick of

4288
03:44:25,040 --> 03:44:27,760
Speaker 1: the round. This will be the new Super Bowl Chickpions

4289
03:44:30,040 --> 03:44:35,680
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. The new England Patriots select Malcolm bra You

4290
03:44:35,800 --> 03:44:41,519
Speaker 1: gotta ride defensive tackle. Okay, Commissioner Malcolm Brown, the defensive

4291
03:44:41,560 --> 03:44:44,400
Speaker 1: tackle from the University of Texas or some people thought

4292
03:44:44,480 --> 03:44:47,320
Speaker 1: that maybe the Cowboys at twenty seven would have been

4293
03:44:47,360 --> 03:44:50,320
Speaker 1: consideration there. I see him as a one technique. That

4294
03:44:50,480 --> 03:44:52,840
Speaker 1: kind of takes him out of the loop. As far

4295
03:44:52,959 --> 03:44:55,080
Speaker 1: as those guys when they say, you know, we I've

4296
03:44:55,160 --> 03:44:58,680
Speaker 1: learned my lesson, you know with Sharif Floyd and saying

4297
03:44:58,720 --> 03:45:01,280
Speaker 1: he could play at three, I think these guys probably

4298
03:45:01,320 --> 03:45:04,960
Speaker 1: see Malcolm Brown playing as a one technique. So Malcolm

4299
03:45:04,959 --> 03:45:08,200
Speaker 1: Brown is a New England Patriot. Uh. That means the

4300
03:45:09,160 --> 03:45:12,360
Speaker 1: first round has come to an end. The start time

4301
03:45:12,400 --> 03:45:15,959
Speaker 1: of the of the round seven h six pm Central

4302
03:45:16,000 --> 03:45:19,400
Speaker 1: Standard Time and ends at ten thirty pm, So first

4303
03:45:19,480 --> 03:45:21,760
Speaker 1: round over within the books. But we talk about again

4304
03:45:21,840 --> 03:45:26,200
Speaker 1: getting back into the versatility with and you guys, I

4305
03:45:26,280 --> 03:45:28,640
Speaker 1: know you guys knew that he uh you know, has

4306
03:45:28,680 --> 03:45:31,160
Speaker 1: played safety there, but it just sounds like to them

4307
03:45:31,560 --> 03:45:34,360
Speaker 1: it's not just something that he's done. But but you know,

4308
03:45:34,480 --> 03:45:38,280
Speaker 1: if car and Clayborne come back and Standard's back, that

4309
03:45:38,400 --> 03:45:40,280
Speaker 1: if he's better than Wilcox, there's a chance he can

4310
03:45:40,320 --> 03:45:42,280
Speaker 1: get on the field right away and play play safety.

4311
03:45:42,360 --> 03:45:44,520
Speaker 1: He actually has more starts in college at safety than

4312
03:45:44,840 --> 03:45:48,240
Speaker 1: a corner. So a player that you do see the versatility,

4313
03:45:48,400 --> 03:45:50,520
Speaker 1: and I think we all agree that you like him.

4314
03:45:50,560 --> 03:45:52,959
Speaker 1: We like him at corner to start off, Yes, but yeah,

4315
03:45:53,000 --> 03:45:55,440
Speaker 1: that versatility is just still clutch. And that's why it's

4316
03:45:55,440 --> 03:45:58,480
Speaker 1: such a high value player because you don't you know,

4317
03:45:58,600 --> 03:46:03,960
Speaker 1: you have that option depending on durability during injuries, something

4318
03:46:04,000 --> 03:46:06,320
Speaker 1: can happen at safety. You can do that if you want.

4319
03:46:06,360 --> 03:46:08,240
Speaker 1: This This is a team is starting to be built

4320
03:46:08,320 --> 03:46:12,440
Speaker 1: on flexibility. This is a team it's starting to how

4321
03:46:12,520 --> 03:46:16,920
Speaker 1: many guys can play tackle or guard or center or

4322
03:46:16,959 --> 03:46:19,080
Speaker 1: guard whatever it matters. I mean, how many guys can

4323
03:46:19,160 --> 03:46:22,160
Speaker 1: do other things, and especially on defense. If you look

4324
03:46:22,240 --> 03:46:25,760
Speaker 1: example with Hitchens and what he was able to do

4325
03:46:25,920 --> 03:46:30,320
Speaker 1: last year and how he played all three linebacker spots.

4326
03:46:30,640 --> 03:46:34,280
Speaker 1: And now you're talking about guys, here's Byron Jones. You

4327
03:46:34,360 --> 03:46:37,520
Speaker 1: look at single high safety stuff. They could take Wilcox

4328
03:46:37,640 --> 03:46:40,160
Speaker 1: off the field, put Barry Church down in the box,

4329
03:46:40,440 --> 03:46:42,800
Speaker 1: let him cover. But you say, if you if, even if,

4330
03:46:42,920 --> 03:46:45,320
Speaker 1: even if Byron Jones is not when you're corners on

4331
03:46:45,360 --> 03:46:47,560
Speaker 1: the field, you put him at the safety spot. You

4332
03:46:47,640 --> 03:46:48,920
Speaker 1: know you can get you could get a lot of

4333
03:46:48,959 --> 03:46:51,400
Speaker 1: guys covering on the field. And I just got a

4334
03:46:51,480 --> 03:46:54,040
Speaker 1: chance to talk to take Jason Garrett after the with

4335
03:46:54,120 --> 03:46:56,040
Speaker 1: the press conference, we were walking back. I guess they

4336
03:46:56,080 --> 03:46:57,480
Speaker 1: were going to the war room, and I asked him

4337
03:46:57,520 --> 03:46:59,520
Speaker 1: about how tricky it can be with the verse until

4338
03:47:00,240 --> 03:47:03,480
Speaker 1: guys like that. Tyrone Crawford was one where it's like, yeah,

4339
03:47:03,720 --> 03:47:05,120
Speaker 1: you know he could play this, you could play that,

4340
03:47:05,240 --> 03:47:07,400
Speaker 1: and he ends up not even you know, excelling in

4341
03:47:07,480 --> 03:47:09,680
Speaker 1: one craft. I've seen that with Wilbur a little bit.

4342
03:47:09,800 --> 03:47:12,760
Speaker 1: So he said that can be dangerous, but it is

4343
03:47:12,800 --> 03:47:14,680
Speaker 1: good to get him on the field. Quicker. Look at

4344
03:47:14,800 --> 03:47:17,120
Speaker 1: Zack Martin last year, we all thought Zack Martin would

4345
03:47:17,120 --> 03:47:19,840
Speaker 1: play guard and then move out to tackle. They just said, no,

4346
03:47:20,240 --> 03:47:22,480
Speaker 1: Zack Martin is a guard. Yeah, he's just gonna play.

4347
03:47:22,680 --> 03:47:26,080
Speaker 1: But the option is there, you know, that versatility, having

4348
03:47:26,200 --> 03:47:29,800
Speaker 1: that flexibility, that flexibility, that key word there and real quick.

4349
03:47:30,520 --> 03:47:32,400
Speaker 1: We just finished the first round. Some guys that are

4350
03:47:32,440 --> 03:47:35,640
Speaker 1: still available on the board, Randy Gregory player. We talked

4351
03:47:35,640 --> 03:47:39,120
Speaker 1: to the possibility TJ. Clemmings the tackle. We both like

4352
03:47:39,959 --> 03:47:43,840
Speaker 1: Ronald Darby a corner O Diggy zooa pass rusher. We

4353
03:47:43,920 --> 03:47:47,680
Speaker 1: like Royal Green, Beckham Landon Collins, Eric Kendricks, Eric row

4354
03:47:47,760 --> 03:47:49,400
Speaker 1: So a lot of good players still on the board

4355
03:47:49,800 --> 03:47:51,640
Speaker 1: to start the second round tomorrow. I'll tell you what

4356
03:47:51,879 --> 03:47:55,320
Speaker 1: Jack went. Check Jack tooms Carolina. Carolina did And again

4357
03:47:55,400 --> 03:47:58,039
Speaker 1: that was where that that point of the draft where

4358
03:47:58,240 --> 03:48:03,360
Speaker 1: you know you looked at uh Carolina, Baltimore, teams like that, Pittsburgh.

4359
03:48:04,200 --> 03:48:07,680
Speaker 1: If bud Dupre doesn't slide down that board, I think

4360
03:48:07,720 --> 03:48:11,320
Speaker 1: that Dallas loses a shot to draft Byron Jones. To

4361
03:48:11,400 --> 03:48:13,080
Speaker 1: be honest with you here, I think they go ahead

4362
03:48:13,080 --> 03:48:15,280
Speaker 1: and they say we're gonna take a corner who potentially

4363
03:48:15,360 --> 03:48:17,760
Speaker 1: could play safety and that kind of thing. And that's

4364
03:48:17,800 --> 03:48:20,560
Speaker 1: why the drafts so fascinating, because one pick has a

4365
03:48:21,480 --> 03:48:25,120
Speaker 1: ripple effect that changes everything down the line. So if

4366
03:48:25,280 --> 03:48:27,560
Speaker 1: one pick is different in the top twenty, then maybe

4367
03:48:27,560 --> 03:48:30,000
Speaker 1: bud Dupre goes earlier, Byron Jones goes twenty two to

4368
03:48:30,040 --> 03:48:32,320
Speaker 1: the Steelers, and then who knows what's at twenty seven

4369
03:48:32,400 --> 03:48:34,680
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. So that the draft is so fascinating,

4370
03:48:34,720 --> 03:48:36,840
Speaker 1: even when you look at pass drafts how it could

4371
03:48:36,840 --> 03:48:39,560
Speaker 1: have played out. Um and so, but the first rounds

4372
03:48:39,600 --> 03:48:42,040
Speaker 1: in the books Byron Jones and the Cowboy Yeah, I

4373
03:48:42,200 --> 03:48:45,440
Speaker 1: was obviously I was missing some of the picture. Carl

4374
03:48:45,560 --> 03:48:47,480
Speaker 1: Davis did he go No, No, he did not. He's

4375
03:48:47,480 --> 03:48:49,760
Speaker 1: still he's still on the board, on the board. Yeah there,

4376
03:48:49,879 --> 03:48:53,360
Speaker 1: there's get real high on him. Dane's absolutely second round

4377
03:48:53,360 --> 03:48:56,280
Speaker 1: player to him. Yeah, it's solid. There's some guys like

4378
03:48:56,360 --> 03:48:59,400
Speaker 1: like say, I had myself the unfortunate one, and Dane

4379
03:48:59,400 --> 03:49:01,520
Speaker 1: and I were talking, they're into press conference, Collins the

4380
03:49:01,680 --> 03:49:05,000
Speaker 1: LSU kid, not able to a first round player on

4381
03:49:05,080 --> 03:49:07,520
Speaker 1: a lot of boards, then all of a sudden the

4382
03:49:07,720 --> 03:49:12,680
Speaker 1: unfortunate news probably exactly. So yeah to me, you know,

4383
03:49:12,760 --> 03:49:14,440
Speaker 1: when you talk the two guys that I had in

4384
03:49:14,560 --> 03:49:17,520
Speaker 1: my own first round and looking at my board, Clemmings

4385
03:49:17,560 --> 03:49:20,080
Speaker 1: and Collins were the only two first round guys that

4386
03:49:20,200 --> 03:49:25,240
Speaker 1: did not get selected by anybody. The lowest ranking player

4387
03:49:25,320 --> 03:49:29,200
Speaker 1: I had was Lake and Tomlinson, the guard from and

4388
03:49:29,280 --> 03:49:31,720
Speaker 1: I think Dane, you and I agreed that he was

4389
03:49:31,800 --> 03:49:35,480
Speaker 1: a third round guy. So we're gonna get We're gonna

4390
03:49:35,480 --> 03:49:37,000
Speaker 1: get Barne Jones here in a little bit and have

4391
03:49:37,040 --> 03:49:40,200
Speaker 1: a chance to visit with him. Though, But the cowboys

4392
03:49:40,600 --> 03:49:43,760
Speaker 1: talk about if you would, you know, they sat there,

4393
03:49:43,880 --> 03:49:47,160
Speaker 1: they trusted what was going to happen. They didn't panic.

4394
03:49:47,240 --> 03:49:49,240
Speaker 1: He saw Jerry on some of the warm camp stuff.

4395
03:49:49,320 --> 03:49:52,320
Speaker 1: Nick he was. He was working the notes pretty hard.

4396
03:49:52,400 --> 03:49:54,000
Speaker 1: He was trying to figure out where he needed to

4397
03:49:54,080 --> 03:49:56,880
Speaker 1: be and just in case they had to go. Todd

4398
03:49:57,280 --> 03:50:00,680
Speaker 1: Williams out of PACIFICA to his right, talking to them,

4399
03:50:00,840 --> 03:50:04,080
Speaker 1: trying to get the numbers right. Will McClay everybody saying, hey,

4400
03:50:04,160 --> 03:50:06,560
Speaker 1: maybe we need to go. But Stephen Jones seemed to

4401
03:50:06,560 --> 03:50:08,640
Speaker 1: be a very calming voice in that room. Maybe Hey,

4402
03:50:08,760 --> 03:50:11,120
Speaker 1: let's just sit down and let this thing happen and

4403
03:50:11,200 --> 03:50:13,320
Speaker 1: see what happened and how it plays out. And they

4404
03:50:13,360 --> 03:50:15,640
Speaker 1: had said that that. You know, you heard Jerry just

4405
03:50:15,760 --> 03:50:19,560
Speaker 1: say corner was the one position that they probably wouldn't

4406
03:50:19,560 --> 03:50:21,520
Speaker 1: have been that comfortable with if they didn't get so

4407
03:50:21,840 --> 03:50:23,680
Speaker 1: I think this is as close to a need pick

4408
03:50:23,840 --> 03:50:27,280
Speaker 1: going into it as they've ever had. And so, you know,

4409
03:50:27,840 --> 03:50:30,160
Speaker 1: not to the point to move up, but at least

4410
03:50:30,200 --> 03:50:31,880
Speaker 1: to sit there and not try to move back. I

4411
03:50:31,960 --> 03:50:34,800
Speaker 1: think the question is if he's gone, who do they take?

4412
03:50:35,160 --> 03:50:37,280
Speaker 1: Do they try to move I think Gregory would have

4413
03:50:37,360 --> 03:50:40,160
Speaker 1: probably been yeah, I think that I look and looking

4414
03:50:40,200 --> 03:50:43,360
Speaker 1: back at what I had mocked, and Gregory was one

4415
03:50:43,440 --> 03:50:47,320
Speaker 1: pick away from making it. He made it to them.

4416
03:50:48,080 --> 03:50:50,880
Speaker 1: But the fact that Jones was there, I do believe

4417
03:50:50,920 --> 03:50:52,640
Speaker 1: that was a no brainer for them. I don't think

4418
03:50:52,680 --> 03:50:55,160
Speaker 1: you thought Jones would be there. No, I didn't. No,

4419
03:50:55,240 --> 03:50:57,480
Speaker 1: I did. And we actually did a little mock draft

4420
03:50:57,560 --> 03:50:59,680
Speaker 1: before we came on the air, and it was a

4421
03:51:00,240 --> 03:51:03,800
Speaker 1: much a wiped out situation and it was Ray. You

4422
03:51:03,880 --> 03:51:06,040
Speaker 1: know that was taken at that point in time. You know,

4423
03:51:06,120 --> 03:51:08,480
Speaker 1: we were trying to weigh who would be I mean,

4424
03:51:08,520 --> 03:51:10,360
Speaker 1: we're just having a little fun, like, Okay, who's gonna

4425
03:51:10,400 --> 03:51:12,960
Speaker 1: be there when Dal's picks, you know, and we talked

4426
03:51:13,000 --> 03:51:15,960
Speaker 1: about Ray. I think it's really important to point out,

4427
03:51:16,120 --> 03:51:19,920
Speaker 1: you know, and you guys cover the draft, your draft experts,

4428
03:51:19,960 --> 03:51:23,040
Speaker 1: the Mike Mayocks and and Mike Shay' that's what they do.

4429
03:51:23,240 --> 03:51:27,280
Speaker 1: And then they rate players generally, right, but but you'll

4430
03:51:27,320 --> 03:51:29,760
Speaker 1: find and a guy like Anthony Hitchins last year and

4431
03:51:29,840 --> 03:51:32,440
Speaker 1: probably in this case. You know, these guys are rated

4432
03:51:32,560 --> 03:51:35,920
Speaker 1: for their own team, like Anthony Hitchins would fit this team,

4433
03:51:36,040 --> 03:51:38,560
Speaker 1: didn't matter what Mike Mayock thinks Hitchens would be. What

4434
03:51:38,760 --> 03:51:43,040
Speaker 1: what Byron Jones? And so uh Tomlinson from you know Thomson,

4435
03:51:43,440 --> 03:51:46,200
Speaker 1: you're generally he's second and third round. But but you know,

4436
03:51:46,240 --> 03:51:48,480
Speaker 1: the Lions are like we get Warford, we get Tomlinson.

4437
03:51:48,640 --> 03:51:51,800
Speaker 1: You know, I have a plan for him. So it's

4438
03:51:51,880 --> 03:51:53,960
Speaker 1: it's great to look at this, but at the same time,

4439
03:51:54,280 --> 03:51:56,120
Speaker 1: teams look at it and a guy like Marion Elly

4440
03:51:56,200 --> 03:52:00,000
Speaker 1: says he will fit what we're doing, maybe more than generally,

4441
03:52:00,200 --> 03:52:02,680
Speaker 1: he would fit absolutely, And that's yeah, from the outsiders

4442
03:52:02,680 --> 03:52:04,720
Speaker 1: looking in, that's that's a tough thing because, yeah, you

4443
03:52:04,760 --> 03:52:07,800
Speaker 1: don't have a specific team or scheme fit that you're

4444
03:52:08,120 --> 03:52:11,760
Speaker 1: projecting these guys to scouting them for. So for Byron Jones, though,

4445
03:52:12,200 --> 03:52:14,400
Speaker 1: I scouted him best and I put this in my

4446
03:52:14,600 --> 03:52:17,640
Speaker 1: in my profile on him under the summary, Uh, he's

4447
03:52:17,760 --> 03:52:19,960
Speaker 1: best as a press corner. I think that's what that's

4448
03:52:20,000 --> 03:52:21,960
Speaker 1: what he projects best in the NFL. I think that's

4449
03:52:22,000 --> 03:52:25,000
Speaker 1: what he will succeed at. And I think that's what

4450
03:52:25,120 --> 03:52:27,040
Speaker 1: he could be here for the for the Cowboys. Yeah,

4451
03:52:27,080 --> 03:52:29,880
Speaker 1: I just to me, I I was just so impressed

4452
03:52:29,920 --> 03:52:33,000
Speaker 1: with how physical he was and you know, and Jerry

4453
03:52:33,040 --> 03:52:36,520
Speaker 1: even talked about it. You know, how well he moves.

4454
03:52:36,760 --> 03:52:40,000
Speaker 1: You know that Jason Garret believes as well, but how

4455
03:52:40,120 --> 03:52:43,400
Speaker 1: he was able to you know, stay in position, move.

4456
03:52:43,880 --> 03:52:46,520
Speaker 1: You don't see a lot of wasted motion with this guy.

4457
03:52:46,960 --> 03:52:49,560
Speaker 1: He's always in phase with the receiver. And that's something

4458
03:52:49,640 --> 03:52:51,600
Speaker 1: that you see a lot of these corners get beat,

4459
03:52:52,000 --> 03:52:54,720
Speaker 1: but not Byron Jones. And and what I love about

4460
03:52:54,760 --> 03:52:58,040
Speaker 1: Byron Jones, it doesn't matter if the receiver is you know,

4461
03:52:58,360 --> 03:53:00,200
Speaker 1: five to nine and runs a four to three or

4462
03:53:00,440 --> 03:53:02,960
Speaker 1: six four and he's a little slower. He can cover

4463
03:53:03,080 --> 03:53:05,640
Speaker 1: any type of receiver, which not you can't say that

4464
03:53:05,640 --> 03:53:07,640
Speaker 1: about every single corner. Was he a senior broll guy?

4465
03:53:07,960 --> 03:53:10,160
Speaker 1: He was. He was invited, but the shoulder, his shoulder,

4466
03:53:10,200 --> 03:53:12,600
Speaker 1: he could not participate in it. And the senior captain,

4467
03:53:13,360 --> 03:53:16,120
Speaker 1: all those intangibles check those boxes absolutely. You know ad

4468
03:53:16,160 --> 03:53:19,840
Speaker 1: Jason's first words out of his mouth, right kind of guy? Yeah, right,

4469
03:53:19,880 --> 03:53:22,640
Speaker 1: it's absolutely right kind of guy. Okay, we're gonna do this.

4470
03:53:22,800 --> 03:53:25,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna take take a little break right here. Ken's

4471
03:53:25,560 --> 03:53:27,640
Speaker 1: giving me the thumbs up on a break. So let's

4472
03:53:27,680 --> 03:53:30,000
Speaker 1: take a little break here and then and hopefully we

4473
03:53:30,080 --> 03:53:33,000
Speaker 1: will come back and we will have the newest member

4474
03:53:33,000 --> 03:53:36,920
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4496
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4497
03:54:55,320 --> 03:54:58,240
Speaker 1: Dame Bruger from CBS Sports. We are joined on the

4498
03:54:58,360 --> 03:55:03,440
Speaker 1: line by the newest member of the Dallas Cowboys, Byron Jones. Byron,

4499
03:55:03,760 --> 03:55:08,000
Speaker 1: welcome to our program. Thank you so much. You gotta

4500
03:55:08,000 --> 03:55:10,760
Speaker 1: be happy to be here. Well, you looked extremely excited

4501
03:55:10,880 --> 03:55:14,280
Speaker 1: there when that when that card was handed in hugs

4502
03:55:14,320 --> 03:55:17,080
Speaker 1: and all around. So tell us a little bit about

4503
03:55:17,360 --> 03:55:19,280
Speaker 1: your thoughts. So you had a chance to visit here

4504
03:55:19,280 --> 03:55:21,400
Speaker 1: in Dallas, so you have a little bit of understanding

4505
03:55:22,080 --> 03:55:24,680
Speaker 1: of what you're getting into though, But just talk about

4506
03:55:24,720 --> 03:55:27,640
Speaker 1: the the emotion of not just with the Cowboys, but

4507
03:55:27,760 --> 03:55:30,640
Speaker 1: really the whole night. It's been great, you know you

4508
03:55:30,640 --> 03:55:33,680
Speaker 1: just spending the time with my family. Um, you know,

4509
03:55:33,760 --> 03:55:35,880
Speaker 1: you really can't put into words what that means to

4510
03:55:36,000 --> 03:55:38,400
Speaker 1: me and my parents. We've done a great job raising

4511
03:55:38,720 --> 03:55:40,480
Speaker 1: I'm hanging for four so I'm the final when to

4512
03:55:40,560 --> 03:55:42,280
Speaker 1: leave the house for the final want to lead a nest.

4513
03:55:43,040 --> 03:55:45,160
Speaker 1: So I'm just happy. I'm more happy for thumb than

4514
03:55:45,240 --> 03:55:48,520
Speaker 1: anything they've done. Just a great job. Anything to make

4515
03:55:48,560 --> 03:55:51,800
Speaker 1: them happy, man, that really makes my day. Well, Byron,

4516
03:55:52,080 --> 03:55:54,600
Speaker 1: welcome to Dallas. I know and I hear yet, but

4517
03:55:54,960 --> 03:55:58,560
Speaker 1: welcome to the Dallas Cowboys. And I talk a little

4518
03:55:58,560 --> 03:56:00,880
Speaker 1: bit about you know, corners are supposed to have, you know,

4519
03:56:01,080 --> 03:56:03,920
Speaker 1: bad memories. You you're supposed to forget about the last play,

4520
03:56:03,960 --> 03:56:05,960
Speaker 1: and so yeah, well was this what you know? Was it?

4521
03:56:06,280 --> 03:56:09,080
Speaker 1: Obviously was probably you're getting antsy, you know and seeing

4522
03:56:09,120 --> 03:56:11,840
Speaker 1: other guys go. But but now that it's done, you

4523
03:56:11,920 --> 03:56:13,760
Speaker 1: have that bad memory and now you're you're focused on

4524
03:56:13,920 --> 03:56:16,880
Speaker 1: being a cowboy. Oh yeah, I'm so focused on being

4525
03:56:16,920 --> 03:56:18,280
Speaker 1: a kind of boy. I can't wait to just come

4526
03:56:18,320 --> 03:56:20,960
Speaker 1: in and prove myself. Now I haven't done anything yet.

4527
03:56:21,160 --> 03:56:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm a doubt with cowboy, but I haven't really proved

4528
03:56:23,120 --> 03:56:25,360
Speaker 1: myself yet. So I really can't wait. It's going and

4529
03:56:25,800 --> 03:56:28,760
Speaker 1: gaining the respect from the team, the coaches, so they

4530
03:56:29,280 --> 03:56:32,400
Speaker 1: so they're reassorted that they made a good teas And Byron,

4531
03:56:32,480 --> 03:56:35,800
Speaker 1: you have experience at corner and you have experience at safety.

4532
03:56:36,280 --> 03:56:39,360
Speaker 1: Do you prefer one position over the other? Is there?

4533
03:56:39,640 --> 03:56:42,680
Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite position out there? I might

4534
03:56:42,760 --> 03:56:44,920
Speaker 1: say I didn't do it the cornerback position, you know,

4535
03:56:45,000 --> 03:56:47,280
Speaker 1: with my size and my frame, I think I used

4536
03:56:47,280 --> 03:56:50,760
Speaker 1: it pretty well on the outside, but playing pretty safety

4537
03:56:51,080 --> 03:56:54,560
Speaker 1: my freshman sophomore year was great. I think it's a

4538
03:56:54,640 --> 03:56:56,880
Speaker 1: it's a close one. I put you know, it looks

4539
03:56:56,920 --> 03:56:59,760
Speaker 1: like I'll be going corning but wherever they want to

4540
03:56:59,800 --> 03:57:03,440
Speaker 1: put some movie. Happy to Go. Joined here by Byron Jones,

4541
03:57:03,560 --> 03:57:07,240
Speaker 1: the newest member of the Dallas Cowboys. Uh, the very

4542
03:57:07,320 --> 03:57:10,960
Speaker 1: talented cornerback from the University of Connecticut. Byron. You know,

4543
03:57:11,400 --> 03:57:14,280
Speaker 1: Dane asked you a question about comfort and and you

4544
03:57:14,320 --> 03:57:16,960
Speaker 1: know you play corner You got the skills to do that.

4545
03:57:17,600 --> 03:57:20,840
Speaker 1: You've played some safety in your life, can you When

4546
03:57:20,880 --> 03:57:24,040
Speaker 1: you came to Dallas. Obviously you met with Joe Baker,

4547
03:57:24,280 --> 03:57:27,000
Speaker 1: like the safety's coach, and then with Jerome Henderson. Though

4548
03:57:27,240 --> 03:57:29,240
Speaker 1: did they meet with you together or did they both

4549
03:57:29,320 --> 03:57:31,280
Speaker 1: take you into a room? And did they? And did

4550
03:57:31,320 --> 03:57:33,320
Speaker 1: they they kind of grill you on some things to

4551
03:57:33,440 --> 03:57:35,240
Speaker 1: try and get a little bit of a better feel

4552
03:57:35,640 --> 03:57:39,080
Speaker 1: of where you might fit. I think primarily I was

4553
03:57:39,160 --> 03:57:43,200
Speaker 1: in Bakers right. He was pretty much installing a defense,

4554
03:57:43,520 --> 03:57:45,600
Speaker 1: you know, and he wanted me to learn it in

4555
03:57:45,840 --> 03:57:48,560
Speaker 1: the scope of the safety. Um he knew in a

4556
03:57:48,640 --> 03:57:50,840
Speaker 1: cornerback position. I knew it pretty much that he wanted

4557
03:57:50,840 --> 03:57:52,400
Speaker 1: to see how much I knew at the safety position,

4558
03:57:52,920 --> 03:57:55,680
Speaker 1: and yeah, I think it's pretty impressive. Hey how much

4559
03:57:55,680 --> 03:57:59,200
Speaker 1: I remember? Oh? Sorry, sorry, Byron. Uh you know you

4560
03:57:59,360 --> 03:58:02,320
Speaker 1: just talked about a coach Baker. He's always smiling, but

4561
03:58:02,440 --> 03:58:04,840
Speaker 1: I just saw him a few minutes ago and he's

4562
03:58:04,880 --> 03:58:07,520
Speaker 1: ecstatic right now. Okay, just to just to throw that

4563
03:58:07,600 --> 03:58:09,560
Speaker 1: out there, but but Jason Garrett also said in his

4564
03:58:09,600 --> 03:58:11,880
Speaker 1: press conference that he wanted to reiterate you are not

4565
03:58:12,160 --> 03:58:15,400
Speaker 1: considered a workout warrior. They didn't draft a guy that

4566
03:58:15,600 --> 03:58:17,960
Speaker 1: just had a world record jump at the Combine. They

4567
03:58:18,120 --> 03:58:20,160
Speaker 1: drafted a really good football player. Is that a guy

4568
03:58:20,200 --> 03:58:22,600
Speaker 1: you said? Is that something that you're trying to prove

4569
03:58:22,680 --> 03:58:24,520
Speaker 1: as well, that this is more than just what you

4570
03:58:24,600 --> 03:58:28,360
Speaker 1: did at the Combine? Oh? Definitely, and definitely, and um,

4571
03:58:28,520 --> 03:58:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, obviously they saw more than just a broad jump. Honestly,

4572
03:58:31,240 --> 03:58:33,400
Speaker 1: a broad jump doesn't do anything for you in football.

4573
03:58:34,160 --> 03:58:35,640
Speaker 1: You know, they saw the film, they saw what they

4574
03:58:35,680 --> 03:58:39,400
Speaker 1: were getting. Me intelligent, as athletic, I'm more than top players.

4575
03:58:39,440 --> 03:58:42,120
Speaker 1: So they were happy what they saw. So definitely, I'm

4576
03:58:42,600 --> 03:58:44,640
Speaker 1: in any case, I'm going to prove myself and I'm

4577
03:58:44,640 --> 03:58:48,440
Speaker 1: looking forward to doing that, and Byron, your coaching staff

4578
03:58:48,440 --> 03:58:52,800
Speaker 1: at Yukon just praised you about your leadership, your intangibles.

4579
03:58:53,320 --> 03:58:55,920
Speaker 1: Last summer you served an internship at the US Capital.

4580
03:58:56,840 --> 03:58:59,600
Speaker 1: Talk about what you bring to the Cowboys that maybe

4581
03:58:59,600 --> 03:59:02,080
Speaker 1: we won't see on the field, but we'll see in

4582
03:59:02,120 --> 03:59:03,840
Speaker 1: the locker room, or we won't see but in the

4583
03:59:03,880 --> 03:59:06,120
Speaker 1: locker room on the practice field. I talk about what

4584
03:59:06,240 --> 03:59:08,560
Speaker 1: you might bring to this team away from just what

4585
03:59:08,680 --> 03:59:11,680
Speaker 1: we see on Sundays. All right, it's a good character,

4586
03:59:11,840 --> 03:59:15,840
Speaker 1: you know, telling us always happy, enjoying life. Um, very

4587
03:59:15,880 --> 03:59:18,880
Speaker 1: optimistic question. So my outlook on life is very Barrett.

4588
03:59:19,160 --> 03:59:25,160
Speaker 1: I think I'm riding some schnology faces looking forward to that. Sure, well, Byron,

4589
03:59:25,400 --> 03:59:27,760
Speaker 1: I can do a little a little surprise with you here.

4590
03:59:27,880 --> 03:59:30,240
Speaker 1: You know, we've we've got something and we want to

4591
03:59:30,280 --> 03:59:32,080
Speaker 1: play for it. And you know, these are the things

4592
03:59:32,160 --> 03:59:33,880
Speaker 1: that we get, the fact that we're here with the

4593
03:59:33,960 --> 03:59:36,480
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys and Dallas Cowboys dot Com and we're really

4594
03:59:36,480 --> 03:59:38,640
Speaker 1: excited about getting to know you. But we're gonna play

4595
03:59:38,640 --> 03:59:40,440
Speaker 1: you a little bit of secret audio that we got

4596
03:59:40,800 --> 03:59:43,680
Speaker 1: the conversation you had with Coach Garrett. So yeah, take

4597
03:59:43,720 --> 03:59:47,080
Speaker 1: a listen at this. Byron Jones Hey, how you doing

4598
03:59:47,240 --> 03:59:50,880
Speaker 1: glays in Garrett? Hey, congratulations, thank you, thank you so

4599
03:59:51,000 --> 03:59:53,040
Speaker 1: much for picking me. Man. A lot of a lot

4600
03:59:53,080 --> 03:59:55,040
Speaker 1: of excitement in this war room down here in Dallas.

4601
03:59:55,280 --> 03:59:57,960
Speaker 1: That's great, great, Well, you just made a hell of

4602
03:59:58,000 --> 03:59:59,880
Speaker 1: an impression out of him in so many different ways

4603
04:00:00,440 --> 04:00:03,160
Speaker 1: on the field, but maybe equally important the kind of

4604
04:00:03,200 --> 04:00:05,720
Speaker 1: guy you are. And we just can't wait to get

4605
04:00:05,760 --> 04:00:08,040
Speaker 1: you in here and get you to work. All right,

4606
04:00:08,120 --> 04:00:10,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm looking forward to it. Good. I got

4607
04:00:10,680 --> 04:00:12,800
Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli right here, who wants to talk to you.

4608
04:00:13,480 --> 04:00:17,360
Speaker 1: But congratulations, thank you. You're ready to go to work. Yes,

4609
04:00:17,480 --> 04:00:22,360
Speaker 1: I am, you know it. Fantastic. Okay, here's Rod. Congratulations,

4610
04:00:22,760 --> 04:00:25,520
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Coach Marinelli. He said, how are

4611
04:00:25,520 --> 04:00:29,600
Speaker 1: you doing? Oh? Wow Marinelli? Coach Marinelli? Right, how are

4612
04:00:29,640 --> 04:00:31,800
Speaker 1: we doing there? Your voice? I'm doing great. I'm so

4613
04:00:31,880 --> 04:00:36,640
Speaker 1: happy you guys. Man. Our place is just as static.

4614
04:00:36,760 --> 04:00:38,840
Speaker 1: We've been on pins and needles here a full last

4615
04:00:38,960 --> 04:00:44,080
Speaker 1: five six picks. That's awesome. Good places up and running,

4616
04:00:44,160 --> 04:00:47,280
Speaker 1: and man, you're coming in and we couldn't we couldn't

4617
04:00:47,320 --> 04:00:51,880
Speaker 1: be happier to have a guy like so. Hey, congratulations, buddy,

4618
04:00:52,440 --> 04:00:55,920
Speaker 1: thank you. So March all right, Brian Sala, You're very

4619
04:00:56,000 --> 04:00:59,920
Speaker 1: happy about all the guys, you know, kind of greeting you,

4620
04:01:00,440 --> 04:01:02,160
Speaker 1: welcoming you to the Dallas Go always had to be

4621
04:01:02,160 --> 04:01:04,880
Speaker 1: a very special moment for you. Just kind of taking

4622
04:01:04,960 --> 04:01:07,880
Speaker 1: that all in right now. Oh yeah, overwhel