1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a mother of five missing 2 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: from the Tony area of New Haven, and this is 3 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: what we know. She Jennifer Dulos, drops her children off 4 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: at school. She's never seen again. Her car found abandoned 5 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: in the last hours is a bloody knife, possibly linked 6 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: to her case. I Meancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. 7 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. Now, I'll tell you 8 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: who's probably sweating this one out, and that is her husband, 9 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: Fotus Dulos, who was under suspicion in the case. But 10 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: just you know, it's never easy, never easy, because if 11 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: this knife is actually connected to the murder of mother 12 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: of five Jennifer Dulos, oh no, no, no no. I 13 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: don't know where the knife is. Because if this is 14 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: a knife linked to Jennifer's a murder, I hope you're 15 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: sitting down. The knife, the alleged murder weapon, has been 16 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: traded for crack cocaine. But you didn't see that coming. 17 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: A Hartford man claims he found a knife and a 18 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: bloody pillow nears some trash cans, trash cans where we 19 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 1: already know evidence and the Jennifer Dulo's disappearance was recovered, 20 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: but that he traded the knife for a five rock. 21 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: A five rock that is, a five dollar piece of 22 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: crack cocaine. The man, who has not been identified because 23 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: he might turn out to be a witness, claims he 24 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: was rumaging through a trash can just a few days 25 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: after Jennifer goes missing when he spots a blue and 26 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: white striped pillow. Now that's significant. Ken a blue and 27 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: white striped patterned pillow be matched up to the other 28 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: pillows in Jennifer's home. If so, maybe this guy's telling 29 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: the truth. Anyway, he says, I can't believe this. He 30 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: says he spots a blue and white striped pillow, and 31 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: after he takes out of the trash he noticed it 32 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: was soaked in blood. Now, the guy says, quote, it 33 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: was about a quart of blood on the pillow all 34 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: over it. I tell you, whoever got hurt got hurt 35 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: real bad. I looked underneath and there was a knife 36 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: under there. He wanted some crack, and he said he 37 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: traded the knife to a dope dealer named Fudge. Fudge 38 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: as in the candy. He says, quote, I put the 39 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: knife in my pocket for some reason. I was thinking stupid. 40 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: I was on crack. I wanted to hit so bad. 41 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: I was looking for somebody to sell me some crack. Oh. 42 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: Now we're hearing from sources that told the Current Paper 43 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: local paper that this guy was actually caught on video 44 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: removing items from that area the weekend Dulos went missing. 45 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: The trash kim where the knife and pillow were allegedly 46 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: discovered and foraged is on the same street where Dulos 47 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: is strained. Husband photo Dulos was seen throwing bags into 48 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: the trash Kids whoa husband also caught slipping a FedEx 49 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: package into a storm drain. Now, if you see my husband, 50 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: David Lynch cramming something down a storm drain, please go 51 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: get it. Cops did, and they when they fished it out, 52 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: it was a doctored license plate from a car Fotus 53 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: Dulos once owned. Now, so far the husband Fotus Dulos 54 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: and his girlfriend, of course there's a girlfriend. But shel 55 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: Chaconis have been charged with hindering the prosecution and tampering 56 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: with evidence. But what about this knife? After interviewing the 57 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: guy who says he found the knife, police searched Albany 58 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: Avenue and they found a bloody vineyard vine shirt they 59 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:20,119 Speaker 1: believe Jennifer was wearing the day she disappeared. They also 60 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: recover her bra, sponges, and other cleaning items that test 61 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: positive for Jennifer's DNA. How are we ever going to 62 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: track down that knife? Wow? How in the world did 63 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: we get here? Her family says she was quote afraid 64 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: for her life and that she was a quote nervous 65 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: wreck after filing for a divorce from husband Fotus Dulos, 66 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: her husband of thirteen years. Now. According to police, over 67 00:04:53,360 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: thirty items of clothing and sponges bloodied have been found 68 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: on a four mile stretch in Connecticut that DNA apparently 69 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: matching up to Jennifer Dulos. But according to the husband's lawyers, 70 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: that the missing mom, Jennifer Dulos writes a Gone Girls 71 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: style novel, and as you will recall, the Gone Girl 72 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: movie hit movie was all about a wife that staged 73 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: her own disappearance and return. Long story short straight out 74 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: to Radar Online dot COM's Alexis terres Chuck, investigative reporter, 75 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: what can you tell me, Alexis about this missing mom 76 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: Jennifer Dulos writing a Gone Girl style novel. So her 77 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: estranged husband's attorney is claiming this. He said without some 78 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: goo goo u to him. He said he they were 79 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: given a dark, dark novel that Jennifer had allegedly written, 80 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: and they said that it was a Gone Girl's style book. 81 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: What that means is it's a wife who fakes her 82 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: death and frames her husband for the death by leading 83 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: blood evidence in the house. And that's what they're saying. 84 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: That they have found this book that she They say 85 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: that she wrote this is missing, mother of five, five 86 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 1: children at home and she writes a book about taking 87 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: her death and then all of a sudden, her husand's 88 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: attorney has this book. The husband's lawyer also claims that she, 89 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: Jennifer Dulos, has had a history of disappearing. What do 90 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: you know about that? This is what this attorney has 91 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: said that she's had a history of disappearing. But her 92 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: family says that this isn't true. She has five kids, 93 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: she's a devoted mother. She has been fighting in court 94 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: for full custody of these kids. Everyone who knows there 95 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: says that this isn't true. Yeah, Alexa's According to husband 96 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: fotus lawyer, Jennifer wrote a five hundred page Gone Girl's 97 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: style script many years ago, and he is now claiming 98 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: she had a quote troubled path end quote struggled with 99 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: drugs her whole life. That's interesting because he's had five 100 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: children with her, and I don't recall him ever calling 101 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: de facts or causing any disturbance about the mom using drugs, 102 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 1: or ever having any problem leaving his children alone with her. Nope, 103 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: none whatsoever. This is according to her families, coming from 104 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: out of nowhere, that these are really dirty tactics to 105 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: blame a victim, and they've never heard of any of this, 106 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: and this novel that she wrote. She is a New 107 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: York University NYU graduate in literature and she loves to write. 108 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: Is what her mom had said, So this is just 109 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: an old story that she wrote. Now, according to Jennifer's 110 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: loved ones, they say she was afraid for her life 111 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: and was a nervous wreck. Their lawyers claim that this 112 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: suggestion that she had written a gone girl novel is 113 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: just a desperate attempt to slander Jennifer. Right now, cops 114 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: have to release it is from inside a heart for 115 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: trash facility, and in that facility you see a guy 116 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: that lives a lot like the husband. Photos do lose 117 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: throwing away what many believe is evidence. Alisis what can 118 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: you tell us for her ex husband was captured on 119 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: video thirty times depositing what the police have said and 120 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: sources have said it was evidence. It included bloody clothing, 121 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: sponges that have been connected back to Jennifer. This is 122 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: all what forces are saying, and this is they have 123 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: been searching the trash in this town. They are meticulously searching. 124 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: This is a huge trash landfill. But they have said 125 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: the authorities that said, we know exactly what we're looking for, 126 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: we know when it came here, and we know where 127 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: it is, and we are finding everything. And they said 128 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: even the littlest bit of evidence they have, they're sending 129 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: it to the medical examiner. They have dogs out there 130 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: that are trained to search to find body fluid, blood, 131 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: anything human related and they are going to find everything 132 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: they can to help connect them to these kids. Crime 133 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: stories with Nancy Grace for those of you just joining us, 134 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: potential break in the case of the missing Connecticut mom 135 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: of five, Jennifer Dulos. A bloody knife possibly linked to 136 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: her case was found, we believe wait for it, but 137 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: the idiot that found it traded it to a dope 138 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: dealer named Fudge for a five rock, a five dollar 139 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: hit of crack. Oh, dear Lord in Heaven. To syndicated 140 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: talk show host Dave mac dave, I want to start 141 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: at the beginning. Where did she go missing? When did 142 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: she go missing? She dropped their children off at eight am. 143 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: The next thing we know is that she missed an 144 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: eleven am appointment. At twelve noon, the cleaning lady came 145 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: by and there was nobody home. So the police have 146 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: tightened the timeline down to the last time. But woa, whoa, whoa, Dave, Max, Sorry, 147 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: but I've got to isolate something. You just said. She 148 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: dropped the children off at school eight am. And let 149 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: me just tell you, these people aren't slouches. They live 150 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: in a very upscale area, possibly one of the most 151 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: expensive areas outside of nine two one oh. It's around 152 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: the New Canaan area of Connecticut. And I learned living 153 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: in New York that all the rich people would leave 154 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: and after work and take a train to New Canaan, 155 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: I mean the really, really wealthy people. So I can't 156 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: identify where the woman was living. The husband was living 157 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: in a four point three million dollar mansion, but they 158 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: had split up. Long story short, this is where I'm 159 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: going with this. Dave Mac eight Am to eleven AM 160 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: with Me, Dave Max, Indicated talk show host Josict Morgan. 161 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: I need you on this one. You know, when I'm 162 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: making a cup of hot tea first thing in the morning, 163 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: at about five AM, I do not expect a kidnap 164 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:15,359 Speaker 1: to go down. What I'm saying is, I've been prosecuting 165 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: for many, many years, and it's much more unlikely for 166 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: a violent crime to occur first thing in the morning. 167 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: Now this is just anecdotal for me, but it's rare 168 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: when you see a kidnap or a murderer or a 169 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: violent crime occur first thing in the morning. What is that? 170 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: I always say, I felt perfectly perfectly safe going out 171 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: in hand delivering subpoenas first thing in the morning, because 172 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: all the dopers would still be asleep like vampires. So 173 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 1: what is it that the crimes do happen? But it's 174 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: very rare first thing in the morning. Yeah, you're right, Nancy. 175 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: I mean even even swat teams and you know, drug 176 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: task forth, like you had stated, they will they will 177 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: go and serve warrants at these violent offenders homes generally 178 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: at that period of time, because you know these people 179 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 1: are not going to be out of the bed by 180 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: that time. Oh oh hbl No, because they've been up 181 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: all night long breaking the law, selling dove, driving around town, 182 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: trying to steal things, an arm rob. Mmm, you can 183 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: set up a whole battering ram outside a doper's door 184 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: at six am. They won't know anything's going on. They're 185 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: dead to the world till about three pm. So can 186 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: I just get a yes no on that, Joe Scott? Yes, So, 187 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: Dave Matt, you're telling me she goes missing between eight 188 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: and eleven. She either wanted to disappear and get away 189 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: from her life mighty early in the morning, and we 190 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 1: don't have any signs of her clothes being packed, or 191 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: a bus ticket, a plane ticket, nothing like that, Doe, Dave. 192 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,599 Speaker 1: When the police actually went to her rented home in 193 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: New Canean, they found traces of blood and obvious signs 194 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: that have been cleaned up so that the maid could 195 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: not realize what had happened. So I'm assuming they use 196 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: lumin dollar something along those lines, determined that it was 197 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: enough blood. Who is they who used luminos I'm sorry. 198 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: The police. The police all converged on her home to 199 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: try to find her. And again we've got an eight 200 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: am dropping off at school. By eleven am, she misses 201 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: an appointment in By twelve noon, the maid says there's 202 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: nobody here. When the police show up to investigate, they 203 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: find traces of blood at such a level that they 204 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: believe it had been cleaned up in an effort to 205 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: conceal it from the maid when she arrived at noon. 206 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: We're now learning from sources connected to her husband she 207 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: Jennifer wrote a quote Gone Girl style novel. Gone Girl, 208 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:40,359 Speaker 1: as you know, a hit movie about a woman who 209 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: orchestrated her own disappearance, and it made to look as 210 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: if her husband had murdered her. Wow. Okay. He the 211 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: defense lawyer is also suggesting Jennifer has disappeared before and 212 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: lived for years under a false name. Okay. I find 213 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: that really hard to believe with five children that she's 214 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: living separately from them under a false name too. Alexis 215 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: Trestchuck writer online dot com. Just give me a capsualization 216 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: for those just joining us about what is the movie 217 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: Gone Girl about? Who's starting it? Done Girls starred Ben 218 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: Affleck and Rosamund Pike, and she was his wife who 219 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: faked her death. We didn't know that. In the beginning 220 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: of the movie. He just came home. She was missing 221 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: blood everywhere. Police found lots of hidden evidence that would 222 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: only point to him as the murderer. It ends up 223 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: that she faked her death. She'd run away. All things 224 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: happened to her. She ended up coming back before he 225 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: got the death penalty. As you all know, Jennifer file 226 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: for divorce in twenty seventeen. Has been locked in an 227 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: acrimonious legal battle for custody of their twin boys. Another 228 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: set of twins, boy girl and a daughter. All the 229 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: children very young, between eight and thirteen years old. Jennifer 230 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: Henry in court documents, I am afraid for my family's safety. Wow, 231 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: to get an idea what she looks like to me, 232 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: she looks a little bit like Jennifer Garner Um trying 233 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: to figure this all out, Alexis, what more can you 234 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: tell us? For the last few years, Jennifer has been 235 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: fighting for us for custody of her five children. In 236 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: multiple court documents, she has claimed that she's afraid for 237 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: her life. She's afraid of him. He is somebody that 238 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: she really feels I could really do harm to her 239 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: and the children, and she has been bagging a judge 240 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: to give her custody of the children. Listen on Association 241 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: of your Emergency. Yeah, I'm worried about my wife and 242 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: kids because they left to go to York and I 243 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: haven't been able to get in touch with. Okay, where 244 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: they were? Run to me? Eric, what's the license late 245 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: on the car? What's the license late on the car? I? Okay, 246 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: what's the Who's the car registered to my wife's name? 247 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: Jennifer Dulosa, same for me, Dulos, d u l o 248 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: Els Jennifer j E F N I f R. Yeah, 249 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: harro data birth. It's September twenty seven, nineteen sixty eight. 250 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: They were drugging the whole baby seeing continue with the world. Okay, 251 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: what kind of hold on? Hold on? What kind of 252 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,359 Speaker 1: car were they driving? Who is the rain Drowery holds 253 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: Black twenty sixteen, Black land Rower rain Drowers. You just 254 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: heard part of a nine one one call from two 255 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: thousand and seventeen where the husband is calling police Fotus 256 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: Duelos the husband. Okay, why is there a two thousand seventeen, 257 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: nine one one call, what is that? Dave? Matt Nancy 258 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: The Dulo's marriage was very contentious, and Jennifer actually filed 259 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: for divorce in two thousand and seventeen, and that's when 260 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: that call was made. She actually left with the kids 261 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: to New York, but she went to get away from him, 262 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: to hide from him, because she feared that when she 263 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: served the papers, according to what she wrote, that he 264 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: would be violent towards her. So she actually knew this 265 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: was going to happen. It was all filed with the 266 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: with the court. And when he called nine one one, 267 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: he hadn't been served the divorce papers yet. He didn't 268 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: know where his wife had gone. He got the divorce 269 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: paper after that nine one one call. Let's take a 270 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: listen to more of it? Nine one one? Were they 271 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: supposed to either? They were supposed to be the partment, okay, 272 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: but Ball is not answering. They're not answering the okay, 273 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: what's herself? The number? Six? Zero four? No? Okay, okay, 274 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: you keep breaking up? Star needs you to hold the 275 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: phone to your face because I keep hearing you really 276 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 1: far away small a sick so far, so for long 277 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: for zero six that's my wife's phone number. Okay, who's 278 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: the other person that's with your wife? He goes on 279 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: to list all five children missing, five children, all gone 280 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: with her. This is after she files for a divorce. 281 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: But that was way back in twenty seventeen. I have 282 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: dedicated my life to crime victims, to giving a voice 283 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: to those who can no longer speak for themselves, and 284 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: that is why I work with Oxygen to create a 285 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: new show Injustice with Nancy Grace. We investigate cases that 286 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: I believe never got it right, from wrongly accused to 287 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: botched investigations, to unclear motives to unjust sentences. I don't 288 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: just cover cases, I solve them. I put my heart 289 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: and soul in it deep. Look at the background, at 290 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: the crime scene, at the families, at the witnesses. I 291 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: look at every tiny detail because what matters to me 292 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: is justice. Join us in our search for the truth 293 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: Injustice with Nancy Grace on Oxygen Saturday at a special 294 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: new time, nine pm Eastern eight Central, only on Oxygen, 295 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: the True Network for Crime, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 296 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back on me and see Grace, Thank you for 297 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: being with us. Potential break in the case of the 298 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: missing Connecticut mom of five, Jennifer Dulos. A bloody knife 299 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: possibly linked to her case was found, we believe, but 300 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: the idiot that found it traded it to a dope 301 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: dealer named fun for a five rock. Now we're learning 302 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: a lot of this from the Hartford Current sources that 303 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: a Heartford man may have found a knife linked to 304 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: the disappearance of New Canaan mom Jennifer Farmer Dulos, and 305 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: then traded away for a dope. Oh dear Lord in Heaven. 306 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: The knife, along with the bloody pillow found in the 307 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: trash can and the knife traded away. In an interview 308 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: with the Current, this guy says that he was walking 309 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: along Albany Avenue when he reached the garbage can and 310 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: saw the pillow. Quote, I put my hand in the 311 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: garbage can. I picked up the bloody thing and there 312 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: was a knife under there. There was about a quart 313 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: of blood on the pillow, all over the pillow. How 314 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: did we end up on a wild goose chase for 315 00:20:55,800 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: a bloody knife traded to a dope dealer named Fudge. 316 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: You just heard part of a nine one one call 317 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: from two thousand and seventeen where the husband is calling police. 318 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: Fotus duelos the husband, let's taken listen to more of it? 319 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: Nine one one? When were they supposed to be there? 320 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: They were supposed to be there? Will of your partment? Okay? 321 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: Is not answering, they're not answering their s Okay, what's herself? 322 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: The number? Six? Zero four? No? Four? Okay? Okay, you 323 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: keep breaking up, Starry, need you to hold the phone 324 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: to your face because I keep hearing you really far away? 325 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: Well A zero six, so fourth so for line for zero, 326 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: say that's my wife's cry phone number. Okay, who's the 327 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: other person that's with your wife? And only Lauren? Do 328 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: you know her last name? Yeah? I A. And he 329 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: goes on to list all five children missing, five children, 330 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: all gone with her. This is after she files for 331 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: a divorce. But that was way back in twenty seventeen 332 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: to data Patricia Saunders Psychologists joining us out of New York. 333 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: What about it? That telephone call that who has made 334 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: saying that his family was missing was the night before 335 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: he was actually served the divorce papers. He sounds surprisingly 336 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: calm on the nine call. One of the statements that 337 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: Jennifer had made was she listened to years of sickening 338 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: revenge fantasies from her husband planning a harm physical harm 339 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: to people who he felt had wronged him. So she 340 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: had stated that she was afraid of her husband and 341 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: that he would find some way to get revenge for 342 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: her divorcing him. You know, doctor Patricia Saunders, you know 343 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: my husband David very very well, and all the time 344 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: I've known him, which goes all the way back to college, 345 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: I've never once heard him talk about revenge ever. I mean, 346 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: you know, he's in business and business deals go up, 347 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: and business deals go down, and sometimes it works out, 348 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: sometimes it doesn't. I've never once heard him say I'm 349 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: going to get that guy. Her family says she was 350 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: quote afraid for her life. That's what we're learning that 351 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: she was a quote nervous wreck after filing for a 352 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: divorce from husband Fotus Dulos, her husband of thirteen years, quote, 353 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: she knew how enraged he was that she took this step, 354 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: that is filing for divorce. Now there's been quite an 355 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: upheaval amongst the family because Jennifer is missing. Her vehicle 356 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: found to Joseph Scott Morgan, professor forensic Jacksonville State University, 357 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. It seems to me 358 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: that if she dropped her children off at school at 359 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: eight am and then you find blood that seemingly is 360 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,959 Speaker 1: cleaned up in the home that she came back, that 361 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: says to me she came back from taking them to school. 362 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: And I'm wondering if she stopped anywhere along the way, 363 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: McDonald's for a cup of coffee, the grocery store, whatever's 364 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: open at eight am, came into the home and that's 365 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: when the attack occurred. Because her car by eleven am 366 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: has been found abandoned. Yeah, I think so too, Nancy. 367 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: And I think that whoever's involved in this, they have 368 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: to know her timing. They have to know that she 369 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: would have taken those kids to school, and then they 370 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: would have had to have had access to this area 371 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: and which in which this blood is found. And this 372 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: is going to be essential. I don't know what you're 373 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: saying about access. They could break in or get in 374 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: with a credit card at the door and fallen us. 375 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: She left the door unlocked, But as far as timing, 376 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: I believe that's when the incident occurred. I mean it 377 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: had to. If that blood wiped up is related to 378 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: her disap appearance. In the last hours, we learned that 379 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: the husband has given DNA samples straight out to David Mack. 380 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of breaks in the case way 381 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: in Jennifer's husband, Fous Dulus and his girlfriend, Michelle Traconis, 382 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: who's they were both taken into custody and charged with 383 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: hindering prosecution and tampering with evidence in relation to the 384 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: disappearance of Missus Dulas. Okay, that's not good because if 385 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: they are in any way trying to cover up or 386 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: tamper with evidence or keep police from finding evidence, why 387 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 1: would they want to do that unless they've got something 388 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: to cover up. Now, a defense attorney will argue tampering 389 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: with evidence or obstructing police does not a murder make. 390 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: But if they're what other reason would they cover up 391 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: evidence or tamper with evidence or obstruct police in their investigation. 392 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: Dave Mack, you know what we've gotten now is we've 393 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: mentioned many times about the blood being cleaned up at 394 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: the New Canaan rental home that Missus Dulas was living in. Well, 395 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: they've gotten the DNA broken down from that, and prior 396 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: to his arrest, mister Dulos actually had given a DNA 397 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: sample and hair follicle samples that they're running against some 398 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: of the other evidence that they found. Listen to our 399 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: friends at w TAJ, our partners at the Hartford Current 400 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: reporting that Hartford police found a blood stained T shirt 401 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: they think Jennifer Dulos was wearing on the day that 402 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: she disappeared. The Current reporting the Vineyard Vines T shirt 403 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: and abra found inside a garbage bin on Albany Avenue. 404 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: Police also found two mops in sponges that also had 405 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: small amounts of blood on them, Sources telling The Current 406 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: the items were in a black contractor bag. Police say 407 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: there is video of Jennifer's is strange husband, Photus Dulos, 408 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: throwing bags into dumpsters on Albany Avenue. Dulos and his girlfriend, 409 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: Michelle Traconis are charged with evidence tampering and hindering prosecution 410 00:26:54,080 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: in connection with Jennifer Dulos's disappearance. Crime Stories with Nancy 411 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: Grace Welcome back home, Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. 412 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. The search for mom 413 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: of five Jennifer Dulos has had so many bizarre twists 414 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: and turns. The husband and his girlfriend caught on camera 415 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 1: at about thirty stops throwing out items that later allegedly 416 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: had his wife's DNA on them. My, they were certainly 417 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,959 Speaker 1: neat nicks throwing out all that, as I call it 418 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: evidence according to sources, But now the potential murder weapon 419 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 1: has reared its head, but cops can't find it. A 420 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 1: dopadic dredging through trash claims he a bloody pillow and 421 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: a bloody knife, which he traded the knife to a 422 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: doper for a five rock a five dollar hit of crack. 423 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: Now keep in mind that the husband, Photus Dulos, has 424 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: just lost a battle with his mother in law, who 425 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: owes several million dollars to by the Way over custody 426 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: of the five children. The grandma has it Jennifer's mother. 427 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: That tells me a lot. And in the midst of 428 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,479 Speaker 1: all this, instead about searching for his wife, his defense 429 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: lawyer says things like, oh, Jennifer had a crazy imagination 430 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: she was working on a novel like Gone Girl, suggesting 431 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: that Jennifer has gone missing just to get back at 432 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: her husband. He has also flowed the idea of revenge 433 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: suicide that his wife, the mother of his five children, 434 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: Jennifer Dulos killed herself just to irritate him. I mean, 435 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: I just hope they say that to a jury. But 436 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: right now I'm thinking about this knife and is there 437 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: any way to find it. Surveillance footage catches the couple, 438 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: husband and girlfriend, making thirty stops at trash receptacles in 439 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: Hartford the night Jennifer goes missing. We believe disposing of 440 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: bags filled with items including Jennifer's blood stained garments and 441 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: bloody sponges. Fotus Dullo's DNA also found mixed with Jennifer's 442 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: blood on the kitchen sink faucet in her home. Now, 443 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: hold on just a moment. His DNA found mixed with 444 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: her blood on a kitchen sink faucet in her home. 445 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,719 Speaker 1: See here's my problem with that, Alexis. Many defense lawyers 446 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: will argue, it's not uncommon to find and occupants blood 447 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: and the home, especially in the kitchen if you cut 448 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: your finger, all right, But they have been locked in 449 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: a bitter custom to dispute. Why is his DNA there 450 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: and coincidently exactly where her blood is. See that's a 451 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: problem for me. That's not where he lives. That's not 452 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: a home he occupies. His DNA should not be on 453 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: a kitchen faucet where her blood is Alexis, and he 454 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: hasn't lived in this house in two years. They don't 455 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: live together, he's they're not friendly, So there's no reason 456 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: for his DNA to be in the house any longer. 457 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: Obviously it could be it lasted a long time, but 458 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: to be right there on the kitchen faucet, you wash 459 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: that kitchen fawcet twenty times a day every time you 460 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: use it, and so there's no reason for his DNA 461 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: to be there. And he and his girlfriend getting caught 462 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: on video thirty different times disposing of stuff nobody normal 463 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: that it has nothing to hide is doing. You're not 464 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: throwing your trash out in thirty different places. That is 465 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: very suspicious. Again, the lawyer for the husband claims that 466 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: Jennifer Dulos penned a five hundred page Gone Girl esque manuscript, 467 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: which he admits he has never read. They are now 468 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: claiming that she has quote quite an imagination and motives 469 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: to hurt mister Dulos. You know, I find it really 470 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: hard to believe that this mom would be away from 471 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: her five children that she has been battling so acrimoniously 472 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: for so long. This five hundred page manuscript. According to 473 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: her friends, it quote has nothing in common with Gone Girl. 474 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: It was a novel, like most of her writing, has 475 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: at the heart of it about a loving relationship. That's 476 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: what they say the novels about. Back to Alexis Rustchuk, 477 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: investigative reporter with radel online dot com, explain what's happening now. 478 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: So Jennifer's ex husband and his girlfriend were actually arrested. 479 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: They were taken into custody by the police in connection 480 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: with tampering evidence and so misleading an investigation. That is 481 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: the only charge has been leveled against them so far. 482 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: According to the husband's lawyer, that missing Connecticut mom of 483 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: five Jennifer Dulos had written a Gone Girl script. Why 484 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: is that significant a Gone Girl novel? Because Gone Girl 485 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: is about a woman, a married woman that stages her 486 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: own apparent murder and disappearance, pointing the finger in her 487 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: own husband, and then she miraculously shows up at the end, 488 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: but you don't know till the very end he's about 489 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: to be arrested for murder. We learned that, according to sources, 490 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: the husband, Foetus Dulos, was very hard on the children, 491 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: especially when it came to water skiing, forcing them to compete. 492 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: Several of the children were nationally ranked ski competitors. And 493 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: of course, cops have searched a lake where Jennifer Dulo's 494 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: children were allegedly forced to water ski. To Alexis Chreschik, Alexis, 495 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: what can you tell me about state police searching a 496 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: lake in Connecticut where a strange husband of Jennifer Dulo's 497 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: allegedly forced their children to practice water skiing, including the 498 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: use of sonar equipment to scan the lake off Old 499 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: Farms Road in Avon. And that's a very wealthy suburb 500 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: of Hartford. What can you tell me about forcing the 501 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: children into competitive water skiing. In her divorce documents, Jennifer 502 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: claimed that her children no longer wanted to water ski. 503 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: They did not want to be competitive water skiers, but 504 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: they were too afraid of their father to tell him 505 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: that they didn't want to do it. She says that 506 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: he forced them to do it, and in fact, one time, 507 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: when one of her sons that he didn't want to 508 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: ski anymore, that dad took the water ski and threw 509 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: it against the rocks and broke it. She said even 510 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: the children were afraid. They hated going there, so police 511 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: descended upon this lake searched it. They used top of 512 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,959 Speaker 1: the line equipment to see if there was any way 513 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: that possibly her body could be in this lake. They 514 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: were looking for evidence there because it was something that 515 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: was so connected to the family, so they searched there. Alexis, 516 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: members of the Connecticut State Police and major crime units 517 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: have been painstakingly digging through mounds of trash inside a 518 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: trash facility. They've systematically sorted through over six hundred tons 519 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: of trash and the search for Jennifer deals. But can 520 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: you tell me about that, Alexis Toreschuk. The state police 521 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: have said they booked on the videos where they saw 522 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: Jennifer's ex husband and girlfriend dumping the trash everywhere. They 523 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: know exactly where this trash went, so they have tracked 524 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: it down. They're at the big dumpster facility and they 525 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: are searching through it. They are very meticulous about it. 526 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: This isn't just having to search through pounds and pounds 527 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: of trashes that they don't know. They know this came 528 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: from the area where these video showed them dropping trash 529 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: in these receptacles, so they are using dogs that have 530 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: been trained to search for human remains, for blood, for 531 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: any sort of anything that connects them to a crime 532 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: scene human remains, So they are using them and they 533 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: are having actual people. They're searching there, like twelve officers 534 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,240 Speaker 1: fifteen hours a day are in there. These conditions are horrific. 535 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 1: This is just trash pile and high to the ceiling. 536 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,720 Speaker 1: But they are looking for everything and everything they find, 537 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,919 Speaker 1: or even if they think it's the smallest thing. They're 538 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: sending them to the lab to make sure that they 539 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: have covered every base because they're looking for any evidence 540 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: of where Jennifer could be. They search for mom of five. 541 00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: Jennifer Doulos has had so many bizarre twists and turns, 542 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: but now the potential murder weapon has reared its head, 543 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: but cops can't find it. We wait as justice unfolds. 544 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace Crime Stories, signing off Goodbye Friend,