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Speaker 2: fifty ESPN Cleveland. I am merely Bo. He is the

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Speaker 2: great Z. We came on here a week ago and

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Speaker 2: there were I think six things that had to happen

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Speaker 2: for us to lose to Cincinnati. This was that, this

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Speaker 2: wasn't that one. This the first half had that to it.

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Speaker 2: The second half it got away in a big way

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Speaker 2: against a team that was properly motivated and really ready

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Speaker 2: to really put it honest, honestly, it's hard to sugarcoat this.

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Speaker 2: This this is zero to two, and it's an overwhelming

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Speaker 2: loss in Baltimore against a rival, and there's some things

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Speaker 2: here and there defensively obviously, but this result is not

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Speaker 2: one that you can be happy about in any way,

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Speaker 2: my friend.

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Speaker 3: No, it's a puir way good to see on a Monday.

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Speaker 3: It's great to see you. Great to be with you.

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Speaker 3: Judge walking by, Hey, Judge, how are you. It's brutal.

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Speaker 3: It's brutal. It's very tough. It's tough. This is a

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Speaker 3: football team that we've kind of laid it out for you,

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Speaker 3: and I hope that not prepared you for it, but

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Speaker 3: basically said, look, if this is a team that's going

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Speaker 3: to win, here's what they're going to have to do.

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Speaker 3: They're going to have to play very good defense. They're

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Speaker 3: going to have to run the ball effectively. They're going

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Speaker 3: to have to be able to hit some shot plays

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Speaker 3: off of play action and get the ball down the

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Speaker 3: field built off of that run game. And then you've

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Speaker 3: got to be neutral to probably positive and special teams.

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Speaker 3: So far this year, the defense has done his job

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Speaker 3: forty one points. They did their job.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they did.

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Speaker 3: Defense did their job, and we can get into that

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Speaker 3: more as we go on. For the most part, defense

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Speaker 3: has been through two weeks, though has been they've held

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Speaker 3: up there in the bargain. Run game has not been there,

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Speaker 3: and really Quinn John Jenkins got some runs late when

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Speaker 3: the Raven starters were out that make the numbers look

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Speaker 3: better than they were. The run game has not been there.

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Speaker 3: The vertical passing game is completely non existent, completely non existent.

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Speaker 3: In fact, average air yards per target for Flacco is down.

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Speaker 3: It's the lowest of his career so far this year,

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Speaker 3: and twenty twenty three is one the highest in his careers,

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Speaker 3: So that's not there. And then special teams has unfortunately

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Speaker 3: been an abject failure and in many ways you could say,

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Speaker 3: directly linked to one loss. And in this game, you know,

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Speaker 3: if you were gonna win, you're gonna have to jump

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Speaker 3: on them. And the defense certainly was playing well enough,

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Speaker 3: the offense wasn't. But to have a block punt give

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Speaker 3: them their short field for their first touchdown, you know,

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Speaker 3: not great. So this is this team. We kind of

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Speaker 3: told you what the formula had to be, and right

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Speaker 3: now of that formula you're producing twenty five percent of it.

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Speaker 3: That's not gonna be good enough to win. And it

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Speaker 3: has not been clearly and in this one, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's amazing. If you just said, hey man, all right,

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Speaker 3: this is all I want to know for Week one?

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Speaker 3: How did you do against Burrow, Chase and Higgins completely

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Speaker 3: shut them down. Chase and Higgins combined for fifty nine

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Speaker 3: Burrow for the benefit of a full game, as we

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Speaker 3: found out that he's gonna be out for quite some

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Speaker 3: gonna be a season there in Cincinnati. But just for

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Speaker 3: apples to apples, that same duo of Chase had fourteen

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Speaker 3: Chase and Higgins combined for two hundred and eleven and

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Speaker 3: two hundred and eleven and two touchdowns. In Week one,

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Speaker 3: the duo of Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry rushed for

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Speaker 3: two hundred and thirty nine yards, wouldn't you know in

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Speaker 3: So in terms of saying and that's one of the

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Speaker 3: They give eighty eight yards. The two of the best

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Speaker 3: from the point the Bengals got the ball and have

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Speaker 3: only generated seven yards offense, that has you produce zero

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Speaker 3: defense is given up eighty one yards. That's that's hard

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Speaker 3: has been a disappointing situation. Teams are not afraid to

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Speaker 3: play us in Cover one. We've seen a decent amount

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Speaker 3: two coverages more than most teams. Is the way that

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Speaker 3: I like to kind of break it down. And those

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Speaker 3: two coverages that we've seen more than most teams have

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Speaker 3: And Cover six, which is the cover four on one

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Speaker 3: and so the Cover six is more of a shell coverage.

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Speaker 3: It's saying you're not going to get anything over the

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Speaker 3: and they're just sitting on it. And that's kind of

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Speaker 2: And that's why when.

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Speaker 3: You do that, it's very difficult to be a successful offense.

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Speaker 3: And our EPA against Cover one is in the is

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Speaker 3: that's actually we want. Those are coverages we've decided we

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Speaker 3: kind of bottom of the league and Cover two bottom

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then extra going beyond that. So when you

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Speaker 2: I think we can be big boys here and say

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Speaker 2: Off the field, and that's where I'm going. So, what

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Speaker 2: What we don't have because we have not had a

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Speaker 2: we do not have the level of quality depth that

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Speaker 2: You do not have the quality depth that these other

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Speaker 2: so many undrafted players on it. That's how you are reliant.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we are going to if we're gonna have

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Speaker 2: Quinshaw Judkins is gonna have to be a dude. Isaiah

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Speaker 2: this it's a tough needle to thread anyway. It's made

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Speaker 2: don't have the margin for our other teams have you don't.

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Speaker 3: And I'm just doing this is just a quick little

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Speaker 3: the guys that you know that we just played against. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So the Ravens, for example, this is on their defense.

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Speaker 3: Their defense is comprised of seven first round picks, four

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Speaker 3: and then the rest is other. So that's eleven fifth,

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Speaker 3: that's eighteen eighteen that are first through fourth rounds, eleven

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 3: You were to do that same exercise on our football team.

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Speaker 2: So up front sometimes it's not that hard.

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Speaker 3: So they were at seven ones or at six ones,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't, I don't. I can't verify this is true.

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Speaker 2: It's on social so it's twenty percent of the time.

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Speaker 2: It's right, sixty percent of the time. But it seemed

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Speaker 2: It would seem to make sense. Yeah, where that you

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Speaker 2: that's the one to get. That's the one where you

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Speaker 3: So we have lost a turnover battle in nine straight games.

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Speaker 4: That is verified.

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Speaker 3: That is true. The last time we won the turnover

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Speaker 3: We lost those games bigley to the Commanders in the

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Speaker 3: We said nine straight, we said twelve out of the

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Speaker 2: That ain't it. That's never going to be it. Twenty

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Speaker 3: Well, we're going back to the start of last year.

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Speaker 2: And sometimes it is that simple. The Buffalo Bills have

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Speaker 2: We have not scored.

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Speaker 3: more than sixteen points in seven games. Yeah, we've turned

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Speaker 3: We've just got to find a way man to do

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Speaker 3: But yeah, this is where you pair what this defense

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Speaker 6: Can I interest you in Carson Wentz versus Jake Browning

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Speaker 2: You can.

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Speaker 6: He's got enough people around him.

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Speaker 2: as they go to two and oh, but this is

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Speaker 2: this is the Actually, that's the perfect way to put

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Speaker 2: a ribbon on this conversation we're having with the Ravens

436
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Speaker 2: right now and our approach for the Ravens. Because the Bengals,

437
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Speaker 2: on a game where they had almost nothing go right here,

438
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Speaker 2: and because they won a game yesterday with their backup quarterback,

439
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Speaker 2: they are somehow two and zero and can maybe keep

440
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Speaker 2: head above water until Joe returns in December. That's a

441
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 2: long way to go, it is, it is, But their schedules,

442
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 2: it's not as dawning as it used to be. They

443
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Speaker 2: got Minnesota in the next couple of weeks. They don't

444
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Speaker 2: have It's not as crazy as it was. But that's

445
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Speaker 2: why when you do all of the big things right,

446
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 2: you have to also do the little things right. We

447
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 2: did all the big things right against Cincinnati, but we

448
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 2: didn't do the little things right. The little things became

449
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Speaker 2: big things. And now that's who we are, yep, And

450
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Speaker 2: that's really difficult to dig yourself out of. Look, this

451
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Speaker 2: is obviously, this isn't fun for any of us. I

452
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Speaker 2: will say that that ten carries sixty one and to

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Speaker 2: your credit, some of that came, you know, towards the

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Speaker 2: end when some of the starters were out for Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: But they did. Think you saw on Quinshawn Judkins, who

456
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Speaker 2: by the way, just had what one padded practice.

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Speaker 7: One padded practice, So I think you at least saw, Okay,

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Speaker 7: when he gets he's he he will be your starting

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Speaker 7: tailback and you'll be able to go with it in

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Speaker 7: in classes.

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Speaker 2: I think is more than what we've seen in two weeks.

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Speaker 3: He is they got, we got to find a way

463
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Speaker 3: to get him the football.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But I so, I think there's some stuff there.

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Speaker 2: It felt like Mason had some nice plays in this

466
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Speaker 2: game in the middle on the defensive front, So like

467
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Speaker 2: there there are and Carson's been great throughout. But I

468
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 2: think so there are some things to look forward to.

469
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Speaker 2: But your margin for air was never very big to

470
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Speaker 2: begin with, and the recipe for success was clean football,

471
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Speaker 2: even special teams, and and it was a defense that

472
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 2: at times could be dominant. But that defense, when Denzel

473
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Speaker 2: doesn't play a lot of snaps yesterday, with m j

474
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Speaker 2: Emerson gone for the year, even that can only withstand

475
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Speaker 2: so much, yes.

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Speaker 3: And that to me is what becomes just it's what's tough.

477
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 3: The the margin Frere was already so small, but any

478
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 3: losses to any of your marquee guys are devastating. At

479
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Speaker 3: that point, you know, Denzel was dealing with with cramps,

480
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Speaker 3: and I think that is obviously a tough that's a

481
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Speaker 3: tough situation. That's a tough road to hoe, you know,

482
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Speaker 3: because the.

483
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Speaker 2: Drop off there in that room, especially from MJ and Denzel,

484
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Speaker 2: Greg in the slot to Greg and then which was

485
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Speaker 2: very good in week one though, I understand. But now

486
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Speaker 2: of a sudden, you're down. Greg was your third outside corner. Yeah, now,

487
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 2: yesterday primarily he was your number one outside corner.

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Speaker 3: And did a job against Jay Flowers, right, It was

489
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Speaker 3: just he did a good job. Chase, they got a

490
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Speaker 3: guy named Tesz Walker who was a fourth rownd pick

491
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Speaker 3: who now has three catches in his career. All three

492
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 3: have been touchdowns. He had one catch as a rookie.

493
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Speaker 3: It was a touchdown and he guys didn't have a

494
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Speaker 3: catch last week.

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Speaker 2: Well because they saw and they let's do they Yeah, Todd,

496
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Speaker 2: Todd's not dumb, he is not.

497
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Speaker 3: Actually he he was one of our favorites when he

498
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Speaker 3: was Yeah, we loved it. I got to actually got

499
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Speaker 3: a chance to catch up with him before the Oh

500
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Speaker 3: did you Yeah, and he's great, and he's like, I

501
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 3: was just you know, saying that nobody roots harder for

502
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 3: you to get a head coaching jobs you than us,

503
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 3: so you can get away from these ravens. And he

504
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 3: got to get a chuckle out of that. He's like, listen,

505
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 3: we have really good players. That makes it really easy. Yes,

506
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 3: he does said, that's true, that's true. You also have

507
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Speaker 3: elevated the play of those really good players.

508
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Speaker 2: A lot of credit to John for hiring him to

509
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Speaker 2: do that job, and then a ton of credit for

510
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Speaker 2: Lamar for continuing to buy in and improve. What I mean,

511
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 2: he's his There's a stretch that I saw over like

512
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 2: the last season and a half of like five thousand yards,

513
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 2: fifty seven touchdowns, three interceptions, seventy percent completions, Like it's

514
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Speaker 2: it might be the best special quarterback we've ever seen.

515
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Speaker 3: I know, he was forty one and four last year,

516
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Speaker 3: and he started this season off already was six and zero.

517
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 3: So he's now at minimum forty seven and four. Yeah,

518
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 3: so maybe if there was.

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Speaker 2: A three, there's something in the four three. It's almost

520
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 2: sixty touchdowns, five thousand some yards, seventy percent, three interceptions, like, yeah,

521
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 2: no one's ever played quarterback this well, oh and he's

522
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 2: run for he's run for one thy twelve hundred yards

523
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 2: or whatever. So yeah, no, it's the ultimate weapon. It's

524
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Speaker 2: it's insane.

525
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Speaker 3: And by the way, he missed a couple in this game, dude,

526
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 3: he missed a few throws in this game.

527
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Speaker 2: Yes, and he was still I don't remember what I

528
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 2: set for the over unders for the rush game with

529
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Speaker 2: with Henry and Lamar, but the idea that like you

530
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: were going to hold them to that.

531
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Speaker 3: To thirty six after they'd rusted for two hundred and

532
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Speaker 3: thirty nine the week.

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Speaker 2: Before, and that used to be the thing where well

534
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Speaker 2: you take that away. Can they do it this way? Well,

535
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: now they can.

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Speaker 3: I know somebody who believed in our run defense, and

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Speaker 3: I so somebody who didn't.

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Speaker 2: Did you rebound? Did you a little? I think so,

539
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Speaker 2: did you?

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Speaker 6: I'll that's for later in the week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I know two of them.

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Speaker 5: I did.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about we got back, Yeah, all right,

544
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 2: I know the scores didn't go well.

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Speaker 5: I know that it was.

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Speaker 6: It was a week.

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Speaker 3: My fantasy teams were Brian Thomas, Brian Thomas is.

548
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Speaker 2: Like, I don't want to. I don't. I don't want

549
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: to catch the ball anymore.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, the door walking by. Here we go, there

552
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Speaker 2: we go. Yeah he did.

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Speaker 3: What what's up with that? I'm sure you got to

554
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 3: see some of that game.

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Speaker 2: I didn't.

556
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 3: I just got to see this game.

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Speaker 2: So then it was only on red I had the

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Speaker 2: three TVs. All right, our game, and then I had

559
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Speaker 2: Steelers Seahawks was on Fox here locally, and then the

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Speaker 2: the red zone would would pipe pipe it in, so

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Speaker 2: like even on the red zone, I you, I didn't

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Speaker 2: notice the Burrow injury for a while because I was

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Speaker 2: just watching on red zone. So I was watching our

564
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: two games and I didn't see it all. But yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: there's it's a results oriented and as we're getting get

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Speaker 2: into and we'll get in this a little bit later.

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Speaker 2: There Today was a mash unit. I mean, it's a

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Speaker 8: Only real update is DeAndre Carter is in concussion protocol.

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Speaker 8: throughout the week. Obviously frustrating results in that game. Clearly

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Speaker 5: Get that result.

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Speaker 8: But Bill, very similar to how I felt walking off

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Speaker 9: Hey, Kevin, you don't usually see guys miss as much

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Speaker 9: time as Denzel did with cramps. Was he sick or

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Speaker 9: anything else going on there?

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Speaker 5: No, just cramping. And do you expect to be okay

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Speaker 5: this week? Hope?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 9: And then Miles mentioned he got rolled up into you

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Speaker 9: think he's okay?

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I think a lot of guys are dealing with some things, Scott.

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Speaker 8: But we'll just see how they do throughout the week,

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Speaker 8: all right, Thanks?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Kevin, can you maybe revisit the quarterback situation a

633
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 10: little bit and talk about why you feel it's important

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Speaker 10: to stick with Joe, you know, even after a game

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Speaker 10: where he had some things that didn't go his way.

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Speaker 10: I know you guys have a tough stretch coming up,

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Speaker 10: but what are some of your thoughts on why this

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Speaker 10: is the right way to go.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, Mary Kay, we didn't play well enough

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Speaker 8: on offense, and we didn't coach well enough on offense.

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00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 8: And it's never going to be about one person. Joe

642
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 8: knows there's plays that that he can be better, and

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00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 8: it obviously starts with protecting the ball in this game,

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Speaker 8: and he understands that and that's our focus moving forward.

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Speaker 11: Kevin, looking at it from the outside, it seems is

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Speaker 11: a lot wrong with the offense. So that is the case,

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Speaker 11: How do you how do you fix that in such

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Speaker 11: a short time you have here?

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Speaker 8: Well, I think we're two games in to this season.

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Speaker 8: We're definitely going to be playing better as a team

651
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Speaker 8: as this season goes on, and certainly the goal is

652
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Speaker 8: to always get better as the calendar turned. So that's

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Speaker 8: what we'll focus on. Obviously, there's things that we know

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Speaker 8: we need to do better. Not scoring enough points in

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Speaker 8: the first two games, and that's a combination of things.

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Speaker 8: It's run game, it's past game, it's it's what we're

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Speaker 8: asking the guys to do. So we'll make sure that

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Speaker 8: we put a plan together to let these guys have

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Speaker 8: success versus Green Bay.

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Speaker 11: Now, I know it's all it takes all eleven guys.

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Speaker 11: But how would you assess the way the offensive line

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Speaker 11: has played these first two games.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, hard to to evaluate the whole offensive line in

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Speaker 8: the last two games, Jeff, I just tell you yesterday

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Speaker 8: there were some good moments and then there were definitely

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Speaker 8: things that we.

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Speaker 5: Can clean up.

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Speaker 12: Kevin. Defensively, you guys lead the league in yards allowed

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Speaker 12: and there's been strong efforts in the first For there's

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Speaker 12: two games. Obviously, the as the game went on yesterday,

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Speaker 12: not what they wanted to do. But for your defense,

672
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Speaker 12: how important is it to clean things up offensively, clean

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Speaker 12: things up on special teams to allow them to continue

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Speaker 12: their success and not maybe pile things on for them.

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Speaker 8: Well, I think it goes back to what we were

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Speaker 8: talking about earlier. Came in the form of playing complimentary

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Speaker 8: ball and if you know, making an offense drive the

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Speaker 8: football versus our defense as opposed to giving them good

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Speaker 8: field position, whether via a special teams play or a turnover,

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Speaker 8: those type of things. So that's where we need to

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Speaker 8: as a team understand how important it is to.

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Speaker 12: Complement each other when you're looking for that complimentary football.

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Speaker 12: You know, Miles was on the on the side huddled

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Speaker 12: up with some guys being that that leader on that

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Speaker 12: side of the ball. Do you need that Do you

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Speaker 12: lean on that heavily to ensure that you know they

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Speaker 12: have that patience as you guys work to get that

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Speaker 12: complimentary football going.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Listen, it's a team game. It's the best team

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Speaker 8: game there is, and we understand that it's never about

691
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Speaker 8: one person, it's never about one side of the ball.

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Speaker 8: We'll continue to play this that way, all.

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Speaker 13: Right, Kevin. A question about two rookies. The first one

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Speaker 13: is Judkins. Do you feel comfortable now giving him a

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Speaker 13: regular full load as the feature back starting with this game?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I thought he did a nice job with what we

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Speaker 8: asked him to do yesterday. Tony obviously get him in here,

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Speaker 8: get a lift, get treatments, see how his body's feeling.

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Speaker 8: But I think he certainly is capable of doing more,

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Speaker 8: and we'll treat it just like we did last week,

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Speaker 8: and that we'll see how he comes through the week

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Speaker 8: and make those type of decisions as the week goes.

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Speaker 13: On, the other question is about Gabriel. Are you open

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Speaker 13: to using him in a game just to see how

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Speaker 13: it affects the offense with his quick release and quick processing.

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Speaker 13: Well necessarily, not necessarily as a starter immediately, but are

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Speaker 13: you open to getting Gabriel some snaps in a game?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's really not our focus yesterday.

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Speaker 8: You understand that how the game was and where we

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Speaker 8: were in the game, but that's really not our focus.

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Speaker 14: Hey, Kevin, just after reviewing the blocked punt, what went

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Speaker 14: wrong on that play? And just I mean, how much

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Speaker 14: of a turning point was that that you guys can't afford?

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Speaker 8: Obviously, we can't allow that to happen. Not going to

716
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Speaker 8: get in the specifics of the play, but we just

717
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 8: needed to be we need to be.

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Speaker 5: Better in protection.

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Speaker 8: That's a big part of this game, going back to

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Speaker 8: playing compromary football is you're talking about field position, and

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Speaker 8: we need to do our job really in all areas.

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Speaker 8: But we should never should never allow that.

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Speaker 14: And then just in respect of the return game with

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Speaker 14: DeAndre and in the protocol, now, I guess, how did

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Speaker 14: you think Isaiah did? I mean, he looked maybe a

726
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Speaker 14: little uncomfortable back there at times, But how much have

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Speaker 14: you guys worked with.

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Speaker 5: Him on that.

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Speaker 14: I know he hasn't been here long obviously.

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Speaker 8: Sure he's gotten you know, as a backup aorturnity. You

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Speaker 8: get a lot of reps in practice to get ready.

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Speaker 8: Obviously we lost some yardage there on some balls that

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Speaker 8: we'd like to feel that they there were some balls

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Speaker 8: that would have been very difficult to get to and

735
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Speaker 8: then had some good bounces for them. So again, those

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Speaker 8: are hidden yardage plays that we need to get the

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Speaker 8: ball back with the maximum amount of yards helped towards

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Speaker 8: our offense.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Kevin, obviously you couldn't control having Denzel out of

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Speaker 10: this game. But in terms of Cam and Miles, can

741
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Speaker 10: you is there anything that you can do to maybe

742
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Speaker 10: not always have them in such one on one situations

743
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Speaker 10: if they're overmatched in those type of things, or is

744
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Speaker 10: it too late in the middle of a game to

745
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Speaker 10: try to adjust to.

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Speaker 5: Something like that.

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Speaker 8: Well, I give you know, Coach Wartz and the defensive

748
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 8: staff do a great job of making adjustments throughout the game.

749
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Speaker 8: And those adjustments come Mary Kay, whether it's via scheme,

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Speaker 8: sometimes via personnel, based on what you're seeing from the

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Speaker 8: other team. So we'll always look to make those type

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00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 8: of adjustments as necessary, but we also trust our guys

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Speaker 8: to play our scheme.

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Speaker 13: Kevin, Given Miles Garrett's frustration last year, which led to

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Speaker 13: him asking for a trade and giving his frustration after

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Speaker 13: yesterday's game. How concerned are you about keeping Miles and

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Speaker 13: other veterans on board with the program as this losing streak,

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Speaker 13: which is now eight it continues.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not really focused on last season, Tony. We

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Speaker 8: obviously have come up short in these first two ball games, and.

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Speaker 5: Well, we'll just keep our head down and get back

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Speaker 5: to work. That's really what we'll do.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 2: The news of the day in the National Football League

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Speaker 2: happened yesterday. Joe Burrow will miss three months. He's going

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Speaker 2: to need surgery to repair his Grade three turf toe injury.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't anything that anybody thought in the moment yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I was singing back to the game when the injury happened.

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Speaker 2: But then now that I've thought about it more. As

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Speaker 2: Joe was walking off the field, he had to stop

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Speaker 2: like right before the tunnel and needed guys to come

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Speaker 2: help him get off the field, and it was at

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Speaker 2: that point then he.

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Speaker 6: Went, oh, they didn't have a vehicle.

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Speaker 2: No, of course not. Well, I think he wanted to

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Speaker 2: walk off because initially when it happened, it's talking about

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Speaker 2: they don't have a cart down there, they might not.

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Speaker 2: Talking to guys in the press box they were thinking

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Speaker 2: was okay. First thing was, oh, my god, it's an achilles.

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Speaker 2: Well it wasn't an achilles because he could move his foot,

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Speaker 2: and then it was like, my god, is it an

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Speaker 2: acl So I think, you know, Burrow was hoping to

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Speaker 2: walk off that it wasn't that serious, but in fact

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Speaker 2: it is quite serious, as he'll miss three months with

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Speaker 2: a Grade three turf toe injury that will require surgery.

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Speaker 2: They will go with Jake Browning, who had a nice

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Speaker 2: drive at the end of the game that ended up

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Speaker 2: being the game winner. He was also pretty smart that

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Speaker 2: he threw it to Jamar Chase a lot sixteen targets

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Speaker 2: for Chase. He caught fourteen of those targets. They are

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Speaker 2: at Minnesota this week. We'll get to them in just

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Speaker 2: a second. Because that even if that quarterback situation would

816
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Speaker 2: have stayed the same, that's not quite as daunting as

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Speaker 2: it looked initially on the schedule because they are really

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Speaker 2: in the struggle bus offensively with the quarterback. This is.

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Speaker 2: If Burrow misses the rest of the season, it will

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Speaker 2: be the third time in six seasons that he has

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Speaker 2: lost a season to injury. They are optimistic that he'll

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Speaker 2: come back. They were really hopeful that it'll be They

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Speaker 2: have a stretch late November early December where they go

824
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Speaker 2: Baltimore at Baltimore, Buffalo Baltimore in a three games that

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Speaker 2: the three game stretch, and they're hopefully that he could

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Speaker 2: be back by there. Knowing Joe, I'm sure you'll get

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Speaker 2: back as soon as he can. But now it's surgery.

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Speaker 2: Just take to see it for the least the minimum

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Speaker 2: of three.

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Speaker 3: Months, yeah minimum.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you hate it for the league, Yeah, because it's

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Speaker 3: a quarterback ley And by the way, so maybe I'm

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Speaker 3: wrong about this and feel free to correct. When's the

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Speaker 3: last time? So Purty and Burrow are now both out

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Speaker 3: with turf tow and turf toe. By the way, they

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Speaker 3: need to get a better name for it because there

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00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 3: is a significant injury. Turf toe sounds like, oh I

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Speaker 3: turfed my toe. That's not a big deal.

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Speaker 2: No, it is.

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Speaker 3: It's a very big deal. He says, to have surgery.

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Speaker 3: And if you talk to a lot of people when

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Speaker 3: it gets that bad, they say the toe will never

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Speaker 3: be the same.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's yeah, it does need a new name

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Speaker 2: because it makes it seem like you stub your toe. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and that's not what You can't really do anything with it.

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Speaker 2: And as evidenced by Joe yesterday trying to walk off

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Speaker 2: the field and he had to stop and someone helped

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Speaker 2: him off the field to be able to get him

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Speaker 2: off the field. But yeah, it is a massively significant

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00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: injury and it's it is something that and party's happened

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00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 2: up in Seattle, right, that's where his went. And Burrow

854
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Speaker 2: obviously was on turf down in Cincinnati. And if you're

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00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: outdoors and you can, I mean, heck we can grow

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00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 2: grass indoors now, like find a way, it's just not

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Speaker 2: worth it.

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Speaker 3: So he had a Grade three severe sprain involving a

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Speaker 3: complete tear of the planner complex, which are the ligaments

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Speaker 3: and structures supporting the big toe joint. It is characterized

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Speaker 3: by severe pain, significant swelling, and bruising, limited or no

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Speaker 3: ability to move. You might not even be able to

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Speaker 3: put weight on it. It says Grade three. Slow process,

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Speaker 3: often ten to sixteen weeks or longer. Full recovery can

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Speaker 3: take up to years. Sometimes there isn't full recovery it is. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's so it's basically almost like, is your toe almost dislocate?

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Speaker 3: I mean it seems like a very very painful, painful,

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Speaker 3: painful thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And to have can't move your big toe and your

871
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Speaker 3: big toes is kind of important to It's.

872
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: A massive toe. You want to take a pinky, fine,

873
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: take all the pinkies you want.

874
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 5: Take this.

875
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 3: I don't even got pinky. I don't know who the

876
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 3: other doesn't miss knuckle. I don't know what's happening.

877
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 2: The pinky toe is? I mean, that's you to any

878
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 2: time you want.

879
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 3: If I wear slides, it looks like I'm a four

880
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 3: toed man. I think he toe is so much smaller

881
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 3: than the rest of them. It's like it's.

882
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 2: Hardly anything left of him. Poor guy used to maybe

883
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: have an impact. Now he doesn't. We've been sticking him

884
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: in shoes all these days. But a massive injury for them.

885
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: So you had purdy folks were two weeks in Perdy

886
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,919
Speaker 2: out extended weeks, Burrow out months, three months, and now

887
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: news today that JJ McCarthy of the Minnesota Vikings he's

888
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: been ruled out for Sunday's game versus the Bengals with

889
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 2: an ankle injury. But it's not just that he's actually

890
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: out now. It looks like two to four weeks high

891
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: ankle with a high ankle sprain. So he's now out

892
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: for two to four weeks on that front, and that

893
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 2: would very likely take him out of us.

894
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 6: Hold on, think about this. After Sunday's tilt with the Bengals,

895
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 6: they go to Ireland and then to London.

896
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 2: Oh there you go. That's right there over there for

897
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: two weeks back to back.

898
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 6: You may not go out of any of You might

899
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 6: just shut him down until you get home.

900
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it'll be Carson Wentz this week for them.

901
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 3: I mean, on the good side, it would. I mean,

902
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 3: they see us on the schedule, they're probably like, Okay,

903
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 3: let's just get him healthy. Yeah, hopefully we can take

904
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 3: advantage of it.

905
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: And he's been a big struggle bus first ten day way.

906
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: He had a great fourth quarter in Chicago.

907
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 3: He brought some real nice throws yesterday, but then he

908
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 3: had some just dogs. By the way, I saw the

909
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 3: clip of some of the Mahomes misses, so.

910
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: I was watching live when he missed the one on

911
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 2: the Now, guys, nobody else is on there. There's nobody

912
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: within twenty yards not on the field. Yeah, he could

913
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 2: have thrown it, so he stopped completely. He would have scored, yes, Yeah,

914
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: and he just threw it out of bounds kind of. Yeah,

915
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: they've got some big issues there, and we'll hit all

916
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: of this in one thought, but just some of the

917
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 2: major injuries that are happening at the quarterback position. Commander's

918
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: quarterback Jaden Daniels dealing with a knee sprain in Washington,

919
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 2: so something to monitor there as well, justin fields with

920
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 2: the Jets is in concussion protocol. A massive injury to

921
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 2: what has already been a brutal start to the Ben

922
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 2: Johnson era in Chicago. Jalen Johnson, all Pro corner he's

923
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: out for the season with a groin injury. He actually

924
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 2: will need surgery on that. So you're missing now your

925
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 2: best maybe your best defensive player in Chicago and they're

926
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 2: off to an zero to two start and got body

927
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 2: bed by Detroit yesterday.

928
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 3: That was that one felt very very personal. Here's the

929
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 3: thing that I don't understand. Ben Johnson is your coach, right, yeah,

930
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 3: so you Ben Johnson say, come on down.

931
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: You're the coach.

932
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 3: So you'd imagine, Hey, who do you want who's gonna

933
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 3: really help kind of unlock this offense for you? Well,

934
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 3: how about in the first round, we're gonna draft Colston Loveland.

935
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: There you go, he's pretty good.

936
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 6: Yeah.

937
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 2: Second, with the Michigan.

938
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 3: Second round, we're gonna get Luther Burden. Luther Burden has

939
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 3: played twenty percent of the snap so far. Yeah, that's

940
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 3: not a lot. Colston Loveland, who was taken in the

941
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 3: first round, has played fifty percent of the snaps and

942
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 3: has three targets on the season. Why did you Why

943
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 3: would Why did you did you draft him?

944
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 5: Yeah?

945
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 3: We got to get a lot. Amide's a kias and

946
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 3: and Cole Comet going.

947
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I don't know what are we doing.

948
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 2: I didn't see their game yesterday other than red zone

949
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: and it was on just as touchdowns were raining in

950
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 2: from the Detroit side of things, so I didn't see

951
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: exactly what happened there.

952
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,959
Speaker 6: So I guess he's been He missed all of the preseason.

953
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 6: He missed last week, came back this week, and I

954
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 6: guess now it might actually be worse and require surgery.

955
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 2: With Loveland or with with Johnson Johnson. Sorry, okay, no,

956
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: you're good. You're good, Jayalen. No, I thought john Jalen

957
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 2: Johnson was done. Is there a new update? I thought

958
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 2: he was done for the year. From schefter, I did

959
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: not see that. Okay, I think that he was done.

960
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 2: I think I thought Johnson. I thought Johnson was done

961
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 2: from the year. Maybe Schultz had it. Maybe I saw

962
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: Jordan Schultz. I was gonna say, I did not see

963
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 2: that from schefter. Yeah, I could have been Jordan Schultz

964
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: had that. So but either there's a lot going on

965
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 2: on the injury side of things. And to give you

966
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,959
Speaker 2: an idea just how crazy this league is. The Indianapolis Colts. Okay,

967
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 2: who opened this season with? Who do they have in

968
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 2: Week one? Why am I blanking on it? Miami? So

969
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 2: got Miami Week one on the turf. Oh that's right,

970
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: because I thought, to a turf, he's healthy, Dolphins will

971
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 2: be fine. Not a good read about of me. So

972
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 2: you have that one, and then you had Denver in

973
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 2: there over the weekend. That was crazy to finish that

974
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: and I'll get to that. It is crazy ragious. The

975
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: Colts are the first team in the Super Bowl era

976
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 2: not to punt in either of their first two games.

977
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 2: Quarterback didn't get it right. But they have not punted.

978
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 2: And in Week one against Miami they scored on every

979
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 2: possession and they scored some points. Yesterday, now they lost

980
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 2: the game and then won the game because they There

981
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,959
Speaker 2: was a penalty on every play to close that game

982
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 2: between the Colts and the and the Broncos. Literally every

983
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 2: play in the last minute and a half was a penalty.

984
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: They kick a field goal long one sixty yards, miss it,

985
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 2: but they couldve Denver for using a leverage play to

986
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: try and block it get some fifteen yards. Yeah, but

987
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 2: which allows him, which allows him to move up and

988
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:07,479
Speaker 2: kick the game winner.

989
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 4: Yea.

990
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 6: By the way, another stunning staff from that game yesterday,

991
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 6: the Colts did not have a sack.

992
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: No, that's true. Yeah they did not.

993
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

994
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 2: That's not even the craziest special teams thing of the day.

995
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: That belongs to Dallas, where Brandon Aubrey the Giants go

996
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: bombs over Bagdad Russ Wilson to Malik Dabors to win

997
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: the game. Somehow Dallas gets barely across midfield, Brandon Aubrey

998
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 2: hits a sixty four yard field goal. That's good from

999
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 2: ninety I mean it's it ain't close. I mean it's

1000
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 2: middle of the upright. Bombed it from sixty four to

1001
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 2: win it or to tie it. Then they want it

1002
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 2: in overtime. Yeah, hold on, that actually might.

1003
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 3: I'd also that is the craziest positive special teams thing

1004
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 3: that happened. Did you see what happened in Pittsburgh?

1005
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: I did they well? Which which part.

1006
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 3: When Caleb Johnson just you could let the ball run

1007
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 3: into the end zone and the seiler the seahats, it's

1008
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 3: got a touchdown in.

1009
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 2: College football that goes in there and it's done and

1010
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 2: it's dead and that's it, and he's but he's gotta

1011
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: know that. And they have legendary special teams coach there.

1012
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 2: That's a massive thing because they're down three when that happened.

1013
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 3: In seventeen fourteen.

1014
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: It's seventeen fourteen of that. They just came to Field

1015
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 2: Bowl in the fourth quarter and then all of a sudden,

1016
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 2: it goes seventeen fourteen twenty four to fourteen because they recover.

1017
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 2: They recovered in the in the end zone. Yea by

1018
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 2: a yard, not even by six inches.

1019
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 3: They have to be going nuts.

1020
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 2: Yeah it was.

1021
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 5: That was.

1022
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1023
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: It was a wild wild day in the NFL. Absolutely

1024
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 2: wild day on the NFL. Tomorrow will go through one

1025
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 2: thought around the league, I really.

1026
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 3: Think, and I thought I read somewhere that did the

1027
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,919
Speaker 3: league say anything about the Denver Indianapolis game?

1028
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: Not that I saw. I haven't seen anything on that,

1029
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 2: Like it came down yesterday. It just was nonsense. So

1030
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 2: like it's a sixty yard kick.

1031
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 3: First of all, no re in to do any leverage,

1032
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 3: there's none. It's either going to make it or he's not.

1033
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 3: You're trying to block it because it's gonna be a

1034
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 3: low trajectory. But second of all, it didn't look.

1035
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 2: It wasn't crazy. I didn't think.

1036
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 3: It didn't seem like it should do any It didn't

1037
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 3: have any impact on anything.

1038
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 2: On You're right, it had no impact on the play whatsoever. No,

1039
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 2: for sure. Absolutely.

1040
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1041
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 3: By the way, there were some we're gonna we'll take

1042
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 3: our lumps when it comes to cours, but that one Arizona,

1043
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 3: there were some weird things that happened the end of

1044
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 3: the Arizona game that kept them from just three more points.

1045
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 6: They were blowing them out.

1046
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 2: That's cool.

1047
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 3: There were a lot there were a few things that were.

1048
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 2: Like twenty something to nine. Yeah, it was like.

1049
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 6: Twenty seven, Like yeah, twenty seven twenty two was the

1050
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:49,959
Speaker 6: final What is happening here?

1051
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1052
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 2: And the amount of in that world the hook who.

1053
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're quite good.

1054
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 2: There's a lot going on on that side of things,

1055
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 2: a lot. All right, we'll visit with Harold Fan and

1056
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 2: Junior's press conference. You'll hear that from earlier today. The

1057
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: rookie hat of bowling Green has been great through the

1058
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,440
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Speaker 2: and Junior's press conference from earlier today.

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Speaker 10: Just wondering with Kevin Stevenski telling us after the uh

1073
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 10: after the game yesterday that he's sticking with Joe Flacco.

1074
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 10: I'm just wondering, what are your thoughts on that and

1075
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 10: why do you feel like that'll be good for you

1076
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 10: guys to have that continuity moving forward and try to

1077
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 10: build on what you've done so far.

1078
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 5: I mean, first, first off, you know, quarterback, that's not

1079
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 5: my decision.

1080
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 15: But uh, I mean obviously through camp, you know Joe,

1081
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 15: you know he's done a good job, and you know

1082
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 15: I believe in him and close believing him.

1083
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 5: So you know, we're gonna keep believing in them.

1084
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 10: And what makes you confident that you guys as an

1085
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 10: offense are going to become more cohesive and be able

1086
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 10: to score more points and kind of ratchet.

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Speaker 5: It up some Uh, probably the things we put on tape.

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Speaker 15: You know, we we we see, you know, some good things,

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Speaker 15: some bad things and you know obviously just you know, uh,

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Speaker 15: turn those good things into great things, and you know,

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00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 15: we see the opportunities we have, and I feel like,

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Speaker 15: you know, it's gonna definitely start clicking more often.

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Speaker 14: Hey, Harold, I guess just broadly, like, how do you

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00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 14: feel two games into your NFL career now, and how

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00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 14: do you feel like you're acclimating?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean I feel good, you know, Uh, you know,

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00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 15: I trust the coaches the way they you know, use

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00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 15: me out there, you know, with the opportunities I get,

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Speaker 15: and you know, I feel everything's going smooth.

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00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 5: Uh, you know for me, just personally, but you know

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00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 5: that's really it.

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Speaker 14: And what about that play yesterday that you know they

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00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 14: had to review it and you did get the completion

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00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 14: on it, Like, did you always think it was gonna

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00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,919
Speaker 14: go your way before the review came down? Just talk

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Speaker 14: me through that a little bit.

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Speaker 15: Oh yeah, I didn't know what they was looking at.

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00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 15: I mean I knew I caught it. I was thinking

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00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 15: maybe I was checking if it was a fumble or something.

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00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 15: But yeah, I mean I I already knew I caught it,

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00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 15: So it was really nothing.

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00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,439
Speaker 11: Old I'm when you said things just start clicking? What

1114
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 11: evidence do you have that that's going to happen.

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00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 15: I mean, maybe watch the take. You know, it's just

1116
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 15: just one little thing we need to fix. And you

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00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 15: know he's gonna go back to practice. Just keep working

1118
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 15: hard to make it happen on Sundays.

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00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 11: Really just one little thing. It's really that close, cause

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Speaker 11: from the outside it does not live that way.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, from the outside looking at it could be like that.

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00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 15: You know, it could be hard to see.

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Speaker 9: Hey, Harold, your twelve catches through two games is the

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00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,720
Speaker 9: most for a Browns player in his first two games.

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00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 9: They gets second all time for a tight end in

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00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 9: the NFL. What do you think when you hear those

1127
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 9: kind of stats?

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Speaker 15: I think, I'm just blessed, you just grateful. I mean

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00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 15: I don't really think about my stats or anything like that.

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00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 15: You know, my main focus is just try to go

1131
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 15: out there and be the best player and teammate i can.

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Speaker 9: And then you know, you got another challenge just with

1133
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 9: the Packers and Mike and Parsons. What do you think

1134
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 9: about them two and everybody's talking about them as a

1135
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 9: super Bowl contender.

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Speaker 15: Uh, you know, we gotta work ahead of us. You know,

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00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 15: you try to keep that same mentality we had at

1138
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 15: the beginning of the year. You know, just keep practicing

1139
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 15: hard and you know, keep playing hard, Harold.

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Speaker 12: I know, obviously it's an offense, one of the most

1141
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 12: important things is just moving the chains, getting plays where

1142
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 12: you can get them. But as you guys are trying

1143
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 12: to ramp things up, clean things up, and be more

1144
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 12: cohesive as an offense, how important do you think those

1145
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 12: more explosive plays can be, those deep shots things that

1146
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 12: we haven't really seen a lot of in these first

1147
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 12: two games.

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00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, them is like a big momentum switch, you know.

1149
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 15: I feel like, you know, I don't know, maybe we

1150
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 15: do need to take more of those type of shots

1151
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 15: or you know, get more explosive plays. I feel though that,

1152
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 15: you know, like I said before, like we're this close

1153
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 15: and h you know, Joe, Joe's gonna do a good

1154
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 15: job of you know, you know whatever it may be

1155
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 15: taking those shots and things like that, But I mean,

1156
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 15: I mean, it's gonna come. It's going to come. Just

1157
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 15: trusting the process is definitely gonna come.

1158
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 10: And kind of on the.

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Speaker 12: Flip of that in the run game, I know, that's

1160
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 12: another thing you guys are trying to get going. Quinch

1161
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 12: On back in the mix, maybe getting some more touches

1162
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 12: as the weeks go on. But for you as a

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00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 12: as a tight end, being involved in the blocking aspect

1164
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 12: of the run game, where's your mindset of trying to

1165
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 12: get that operating as well?

1166
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 15: My mindset is just, you know, be a team player.

1167
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 15: You know, do whatever it takes, you know, And that's

1168
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 15: same with the guys when they're out there. They just

1169
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 15: do whatever it takes to win and just being teen players.

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00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 13: Hey, Harold Tillman's touchdown on the deflection, was that pass

1171
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 13: intended for you?

1172
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 5: I don't.

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00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 15: I don't think so at all. I feel like it

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00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 15: feels for me. He would have threw it up higher, okay.

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Speaker 13: And it seemed like you guys were close to each other,

1176
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 13: were on the same communication. There was something off on

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00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 13: that play.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 15: I feel like maybe I took a little a little

1180
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 15: bit too long on my route, but you know, Tillman,

1181
00:56:58,239 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 15: he was in the right place.

1182
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm just wondering what did you think about that catch?

1183
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 10: And you know, how cool was it that he kind

1184
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 10: of got what happened, you know, the previous week a

1185
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 10: couple times for the other team, So wondering what you

1186
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 10: thought about it? H and then after that, if you

1187
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 10: don't mind just talking about Quinn Shawn and what you

1188
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 10: think he can provide to you guys as as an offense.

1189
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 5: You know what happened, You know, I couldn't believe it.

1190
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 5: I didn't know what was going on.

1191
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 15: I was excited just to see him, you know, holding

1192
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 15: the ball and who was an end.

1193
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 5: So and Quinn Sewan.

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00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 15: You know it's going to be a great player for

1195
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 15: us as you could see, you know, just about opportunities

1196
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 15: he's got. He's doing really well. You know, I'm happy

1197
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 15: back in the building.

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00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 2: There you go from Harold fannin junior coming up next year,

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00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 2: great clips, great clip of the game, and a couple

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Speaker 2: your spot. Now, time now for your great clips. It's

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Speaker 2: going to be great call of the game. Here's Miles

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00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 2: versus Lamar, third and goal on the six.

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00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 9: Lamar Jackson pressured, he is sacked Miles Garrett and it's

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Speaker 9: fourth down.

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Speaker 3: Second game with two sacks for Miles Garrett, three and

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00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 3: a half total on the season. And what a stand

1220
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 3: by this defense? You think it's a touchdown. The Ravens

1221
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 3: are on the sideline. It's celebration city. The refs say,

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00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 3: not so fast, my friends, Just like the Great League

1223
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 3: Corso down at the one. What a stand right there?

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00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 2: College football night, collegeot on eights everywhere. He's ready to go.

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00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, not so fast, my friends, not so fast.

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00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 2: I like that.

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00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 3: Oh what a gool line saying that's it.

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00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 2: We didn't even get to the unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: Tomorrow, but just a film study, film study tomorrow, film break,

1230
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 6: break it all down.

1231
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 2: We've got scores tonight.

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00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 6: Double editor seven and ten.

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00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 2: I wish this was six and nine, but be nice. Yeah,

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00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 2: I won't see any You're not going to see that.

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00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 2: The Chargers Raiders ten o'clock. No, not at all, no chance,

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00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,439
Speaker 2: not at what do we have? I wish they were inverted, yes,

1237
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 2: because I'm more interested in Chargers Raiders than like Buck

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00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 2: texts sex. I want to see Herbert playing the first one.

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00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 6: We go to Houston Texans taking on Tampa Bay Texans

1240
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 6: looking for that.

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Speaker 3: First win of the year. Go ahead, I like. I

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00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 3: think the Texans bounce back here. I like the Texans here.

1243
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 3: Baker got away with some some he had four turnover

1244
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 3: worthy plays in week one, none of them cost them.

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00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 3: He's gonna be without Tristan Wurfs as well. Give me

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00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 3: the Texans in this one. Comfortable, comfortable, comfortable, twenty four

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Speaker 3: to twelve.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go same Z's on that one with you.

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01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:06,919
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna follow you on that one as well.

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Speaker 6: Sames's late game Los Angeles, the Chargers looking to go

1251
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 6: to two and zero in Vegas to take on the Raiders.

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01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 6: I guess they've got it all cleaned up. After the

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Speaker 6: pay per view boxing fight Saturday night.

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Speaker 2: People were complaining about that. That was like twelve forty

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Speaker 2: five Eastern, and they still.

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Speaker 6: We were at a bar and we left like it

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Speaker 6: was eleven fifteen. They're like, there's another I'm like, nope, no,

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Speaker 6: there's that's crazy. There is bedtime like it.

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Speaker 2: So I get it, like many people hang around, but

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Speaker 2: twelve forty year ridiculous, ridiculous, that's nuts. The Chargers. I

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Speaker 2: think the Chargers are really good and I don't think

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Speaker 2: it matters where they play, and I think they might

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Speaker 2: be This might Harbaugh and coach it, and this might

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Speaker 2: be them entering the really upper echelon. Bengals down, Chiefs, down, Chargers, up,

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Speaker 2: Chargers by a billion. Say there you go, Right there

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Speaker 2: you go. The Joe Thomas half hour of the program

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Speaker 2: is coming up next, so let's go play. The Daily

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Speaker 2: All right, Welcome into the Joe Thomas half hour of

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Speaker 2: the program, and quite honestly, the setting with which we

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Speaker 2: find the Hoff is would put me in a good mood.

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Speaker 2: Here on a Monday's ex otherwise not been good. The

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Speaker 2: Hoff appears to be in what I would describe for

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Speaker 2: the audience, and if you're watching on the YouTube, you

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Speaker 2: can certainly see he is in what appears to be

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Speaker 2: the perfect hunting lodge ever created by man. It's good

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Speaker 2: to see a Hoff.

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Speaker 4: It's good to see you guys.

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Speaker 16: You wouldn't believe how many of the world's problems were

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Speaker 16: solved sitting around this fireplace. Z solved a few of

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Speaker 16: them when he was here for Turkey Camp, Baby Farm.

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Speaker 4: And that's what we're here to do today.

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Speaker 16: We're here to solve the world's problems, which the Browns

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Speaker 16: problems are the world's problems on a Monday, after what

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01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 16: we saw on Sunday, it's what.

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Speaker 2: The world needs.

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Speaker 4: We need to solve this. We need to fix this.

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Speaker 5: Do we have?

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Speaker 2: How much time do we have for a half hour?

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Speaker 3: So it's we're gonna have to get right to it.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have to work quickly.

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Speaker 3: Haf Here's the thing that's that's been troubling to me

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Speaker 3: watching it, and I'm gonna start with the offense, because

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01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 3: I think that that is special teams is it will

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Speaker 3: get there. Defensively, at this point, they've done all you

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Speaker 3: could ask. I mean, you think about from the second

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Speaker 3: half of the Bengals game through the first half of

1302
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 3: the Ravens game, the Browns defense gave up eighty eight

1303
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 3: yards in four quarters. Eighty eight yards to the number

1304
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 3: one passing offense from twenty twenty four, the number one

1305
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 3: running offensive twenty twenty four to a team, by the way,

1306
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 3: and the Ravens, for their part, who had eighty who

1307
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 3: had over four hundred yards on fifty plays the week

1308
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 3: before against a team that many people thinks can go

1309
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl, Buffalo Bills. So defense, you get

1310
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 3: a pass and the ironic thing, or not ironic, the

1311
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 3: sad thing is you hold it those teams to eighty

1312
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 3: eighty eight yards over four quarters and you won't outscore them. No,

1313
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 3: you do not outscore them. So this goes to the

1314
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 3: offensive problems right now. When Joe Flacco was here last time,

1315
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 3: he averaged nearly eight yards in the air per attempt.

1316
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 3: This year it's down around four. Our ability to hit

1317
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 3: vertical shots with Joe Flacco was excellent last time around

1318
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 3: this year. It is not happening at all. And teams

1319
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 3: are playing two coverages against us, predominantly Huff cover one,

1320
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 3: which means your guy's gotta win. You got to create separation.

1321
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 3: And they're playing Cover six, which is that too high?

1322
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 3: That's designed in many ways to eliminate verticals. It's covered

1323
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 3: two on one side, cover four on the other side.

1324
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 3: We're seeing those coverages at one of the top rates

1325
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 3: in the NFL across the board. Are what is going

1326
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 3: on here, Huff? Why can this offense not get anything

1327
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 3: going down the field?

1328
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 16: Well, if you remember, the kind that we had at

1329
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 16: the beginning of the season, was all right, if our

1330
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 16: defense can get back to number one overall form, which

1331
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 16: they have, which was what we saw a couple years

1332
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 16: ago when they were able to make the playoffs and

1333
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 16: they had Joe Flacco at the helm and he was

1334
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 16: throwing the ball down the field. But the other component

1335
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 16: of saying, hey, we can have a successful season, we

1336
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 16: can have a team we're excited about, we feel good

1337
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 16: about if we have that defense that comes back from

1338
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 16: a couple of years ago. But then the other thing

1339
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 16: was we said we have to be able to run

1340
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 16: the ball effectively because that is the lynchpin on offense

1341
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 16: for us to be able to take those shots down

1342
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 16: the field, because I think everybody was realistic.

1343
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 4: We got Jerry Judy, who's a good receiver, but.

1344
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 16: We don't have complimentary twos and threes right now that

1345
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 16: can get open that can beat man coverage. And Djokhu's

1346
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 16: doing a great job, Harold Fannon Junior doing a great

1347
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 16: job for a rookie, but you don't have those other

1348
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 16: vertical threats right now that can just get open and

1349
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 16: beat man coverage. And if you can't run the ball,

1350
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 16: it's not opening up things in the play action game

1351
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 16: in the back end because teams don't respect your run game.

1352
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 16: They don't have to commit extra defenders into the b

1353
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 16: Their safeties are not creeping up on the line of

1354
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 16: scrimmage to make their run fits. And so nothing works

1355
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 16: on offense if you're not able to effectively run the football.

1356
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 4: With this iteration of what we.

1357
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 16: Want the Browns offense and defense and the Browns team

1358
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 16: to look like to have possible success with the talent

1359
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 16: that we have this season.

1360
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, the reality of the situation is if a team's

1361
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 3: gonna sit in too high against you and the Ravens

1362
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 3: were about fifty to fifty, which is one of the

1363
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 3: higher rates that have middlefield open in the league. Nowadays.

1364
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 3: You have to be able to run them out of

1365
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 3: those looks, and to your point, we have not been

1366
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 3: able to do it. The other thing, and the reason

1367
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 3: that it's more cover one than cover three says to

1368
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 3: me that teams don't fear to the hops point our weaponry.

1369
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 2: No.

1370
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 3: And here's the other thing. Isaiah Bond can run. You

1371
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 3: gotta at least give him some shots. Just air it

1372
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 3: out man, at least throw it. We're not doing that either.

1373
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 3: So he's basically been out there, and there have been

1374
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 3: times you can watch Statee where he certainly has been opened.

1375
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 3: The ball hasn't gone its way, And yes, pressure has

1376
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 3: been an issue, but I thought often yesterday there were

1377
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 3: the sack strip fumble, for example, and a couple of

1378
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 3: the others. He's just holding the ball because there's nowhere

1379
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 3: to go with the ball, or at least not that

1380
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 3: he is seeing in the natural progression of things. I

1381
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 3: think Kurt Warner made a very good point the other day.

1382
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 3: He's like, people keep showing me these videos where some

1383
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 3: guys open here. If you understand the concept and that

1384
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 3: guy's the fourth read like just because he's open right away,

1385
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 3: you're not. The quarterback's not take to look there. No,

1386
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 3: it takes time to get there. But it just I'm

1387
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 3: nervous because the book seems to be out on us

1388
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 3: and a lot of people. What they're doing, haff is

1389
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 3: showing too high initially to get us to either can

1390
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 3: a play get to a second one and then rotating

1391
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 3: into that middle of the field closed, but we're not

1392
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 3: taking advantage of that.

1393
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 16: Yeah, the big thing is your receiver's got to be

1394
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 16: able to beat one on one man coverage and you

1395
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 16: got to be able to effectively run the ball. And

1396
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 16: those are two things we haven't been able to do.

1397
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 16: And I think Flacco realized, Okay, I'm gonna lean on

1398
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 16: my defense, so I'm going to be somewhat risk averse,

1399
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 16: especially to start the season the way he was in Cincinnati.

1400
01:06:57,880 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 16: Didn't make many mistakes, a lot of checkdowns, a lot

1401
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 16: of short throws. You saw that at the beginning of

1402
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 16: the Ravens game. But I think he's hit the realization

1403
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 16: that I'm gonna have to start forcing the ball.

1404
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 4: A little bit more if we want to.

1405
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 16: Be able to move the ball at all effectively on

1406
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 16: offense unless something changes, And you hope that with the

1407
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 16: addition of Quinchawn Judkins coming back and doing a nice

1408
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 16: job in his very first NFL game, a guy that

1409
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 16: basically had what a couple practices, no training camp whatsoever,

1410
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 16: and they just throw them out there and does a

1411
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 16: serviceable job, and you hope maybe he can become that

1412
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 16: workhorse back for you. But it is it's a frightening

1413
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 16: feeling when you are not able to win in one

1414
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 16: on one because I've been in some of those situations

1415
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 16: where we just didn't have the dogs at receiver, and

1416
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 16: if those guys can't get open, they can commit a

1417
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 16: lot of extra dudes to the run game because they're

1418
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 16: not worried about getting the ball thrown over their head.

1419
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 16: They're not worried about your receivers shaking their cornerbacks one

1420
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 16: on one and making big plays down the field. And

1421
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 16: then that just compounds your problems in the run game

1422
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 16: and your point about showing cover two and then creeping

1423
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 16: down to one, Like if you're doing a lot of

1424
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 16: cans and you're you know, you're calling two plays in

1425
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 16: the huddle and it's a too high one high check

1426
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 16: where you can check it. Like the easy correction is, okay,

1427
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 16: every time we can it, they're going to go from

1428
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 16: a two to a one. Well, now you just fake

1429
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,439
Speaker 16: can it? But yeah, if you can't run the ball

1430
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 16: and you can't throw the ball where you're gonna go,

1431
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 16: it doesn't really matter what your strategy is as far

1432
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 16: as on the line of Scrimman is trying to fool

1433
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 16: him and get him into certain coverages because you're not

1434
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 16: able to take advantage of it.

1435
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 4: Off.

1436
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 2: One of the I think the key word in football

1437
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 2: at any level is trust. A quarterback has to trust

1438
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 2: the coach got to trust his receivers, got to trust

1439
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 2: his line. Running Backs got to trust that the line

1440
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 2: does its job, and the line has to trust the

1441
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 2: running back's going to do what he's going to do.

1442
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 2: We're two games in offensively, it's been very rough. Where

1443
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 2: is the trust breaking down in your vantage point offensively

1444
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 2: for this team?

1445
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 16: Well, I think right now the trust between receiver and

1446
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,759
Speaker 16: quarterback is not there because receiver's hitting his back foot

1447
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 16: or excuse me, quarterbacks hitting his back foot expecting receiver

1448
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 16: maybe number one or two to give him a window

1449
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 16: to throw the ball into.

1450
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 4: He's not seeing that getting open, or he's.

1451
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 16: Moving off it too quickly, or he's just being too

1452
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 16: risk averse to throw the ball when there's a little

1453
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,600
Speaker 16: crack in a little window. And then I think what

1454
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 16: happens then is like I mentioned earlier, like Flacco's starting

1455
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 16: to realize, Okay, we need to do something on offense,

1456
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 16: so we need to start taking some chances. Unfortunately, you know,

1457
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 16: throughout Flacco's career, some of the problems that he's had

1458
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 16: was when he did try to take a lot of

1459
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 16: chances in a game and it turns into a turnover

1460
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 16: fest because those interceptions in his career have come in

1461
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 16: bunches when he feels like he has to put the

1462
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 16: team on his shoulder and try to make some plays. Now,

1463
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,639
Speaker 16: he's got the arm for it, but if your guys

1464
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 16: aren't getting open and you don't trust you can throw

1465
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 16: it into those tight windows, and then you don't trust

1466
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 16: that they're going to be in the right spots at

1467
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,799
Speaker 16: the right time, and then you're hanging on to the football.

1468
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 16: Now your O line doesn't trust you to get rid

1469
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 16: of the ball on time. Now they're doing things that

1470
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 16: they're not coached to do because they're thinking, wellt shoot,

1471
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 16: I gotta hang on for four or five seconds, So

1472
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 16: I need to take risks that I normally wouldn't take

1473
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 16: to try to keep my guy further from the quarterback

1474
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 16: then I normally would need to, because I don't know

1475
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 16: how long he's going to hang on to it. Now,

1476
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 16: the trust is just breaking down all across the board,

1477
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 16: and I think the thing that you can say is,

1478
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 16: all right, there's not going to be any receivers that

1479
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:11,600
Speaker 16: are going to come in here that are all of

1480
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 16: a sudden going to be getting wide open all the time,

1481
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 16: like that comes in the draft and free agency, and

1482
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 16: you just don't pick up those guys in the middle

1483
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 16: of the season. But I think potentially some different concepts

1484
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 16: maybe for these receivers to try to help them get open,

1485
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 16: specifically starting with being effective and running the ball, because

1486
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 16: if you can run the ball and teams are worried

1487
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 16: about you running the ball a little bit, you're going

1488
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:37,719
Speaker 16: to have more opportunities and more windows, more green grass

1489
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,719
Speaker 16: in the secondary because they have to commit an extra

1490
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 16: defender down to stop your run game. So I think,

1491
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 16: to me, there's not easy fixes right when your offense

1492
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 16: looks like that through two weeks in the NFL. There's

1493
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 16: no superheroes going to walk through the door. But what

1494
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 16: you can do is you can put all of your

1495
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 16: resources in practice on fixing and working on the run

1496
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 16: game and trying to figure out how do we have

1497
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 16: an effective game that teams are going to be afraid of,

1498
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 16: and then you spend all of your effort on that,

1499
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 16: and maybe the remaining five percent outside of all maybe

1500
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 16: five percent, you're like, all right, how do we figure

1501
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 16: out a play action game that our receivers like that

1502
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 16: Claco feels comfortable with that we can get some shots

1503
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 16: down the field, But it all starts with effectively running

1504
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 16: the ball.

1505
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 3: So that's what we got to do on offense, and

1506
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 3: I think and a lot of that comes I think

1507
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:26,679
Speaker 3: on the offensive line as well. Has got to create

1508
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:28,640
Speaker 3: holes for guys in the run game. We're still getting hit,

1509
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 3: you know, behind the line of scrimmage, I think unfortunately

1510
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 3: far too often in this one. I mentioned in you know,

1511
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 3: in the first week for our ground game, it was,

1512
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 3: you know, guys had as many yards after contact basically

1513
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:44,600
Speaker 3: as they had yards. And that's that's a tough situation

1514
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 3: in this one. For example, Quinn Shawn Judkins, who did

1515
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 3: a heck of a job. By the way, ten carries

1516
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 3: sixty one yards fifty seven yards after contact, fifty seven

1517
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 3: yards after contact. That's five point seven to carry. That

1518
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 3: is an outrageously elite number. Dylan Samson had seven yards

1519
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:02,600
Speaker 3: after contact get six yards rushing. So this is a

1520
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 3: team where you know, when you want to run the ball,

1521
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 3: you got to give these guys an opportunity to get

1522
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 3: down the field so that they can get some downhill

1523
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 3: momentum going. What are you seeing from the line, because

1524
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 3: that is not what we come to expect for make

1525
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 3: Cleveland Brown's offensive line.

1526
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 16: Yeah, and they got veterans out there that should be

1527
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 16: able to open up holes in the running game. I

1528
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 16: think it hurts not having Jack Conklin out there. He's

1529
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 16: a tremendous run blocker. But that doesn't excuse all the

1530
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 16: mistakes because you still have guys that are veterans that

1531
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 16: are out there that should be able to effectively run

1532
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 16: the ball. I mean one of the things that did

1533
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 16: hurt obviously not having quinch On here puts them on

1534
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 16: the offensive line and quinch On on different pages and

1535
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 16: the details are just not there in the run game

1536
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 16: because he just wasn't around but you're gonna have to

1537
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 16: make up for lost time. It's just the position you're in.

1538
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 16: You're going to have to figure it out and make

1539
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 16: it work. But really, the thing that I'm seeing from

1540
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 16: the offensive line, it's just the details. It's just the

1541
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 16: tiny little hat placement issues. It's guys just maybe take

1542
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 16: in a slight misstep to start their angle, and how

1543
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 16: they're hitting the defensive tackle, how they're blocking the linebacker

1544
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 16: on the certain angle. Like all those little details matter

1545
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 16: on every play. And that's why the run game, when

1546
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:15,679
Speaker 16: it works great, it's symphony, it's beauty. It's amazing because

1547
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 16: it takes all five sometimes six sometimes seven, if you

1548
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 16: throw the full back in there to be on the

1549
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 16: same page, to be blocking perfectly in unison and in

1550
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 16: tandem with the same hat placements, the running back at

1551
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 16: the same rhythm, hitting the same landmarks. But you have

1552
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 16: one guy off and it throws the whole playoff. And

1553
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 16: it's just been too much of that so far, and

1554
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 16: so they've got to fix that.

1555
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 4: They've got to figure it out. They've got to.

1556
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 16: Make sure that the details are the difference in Wednesday, Thursday,

1557
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 16: Friday practice, when you get a chance to actually work

1558
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 16: on this stuff. You're working on your game plan stuff

1559
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 16: against the defense that you're going to see. So you're

1560
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 16: looking at all, right, what are the most important things

1561
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 16: in this play for all of us to understand that

1562
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 16: if we don't do this, we're not going to have

1563
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 16: a successful play. And then you've got to get full

1564
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 16: buying and full trust from that full year. And I

1565
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 16: mean there's no secrets in football. Like it's practicing with

1566
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 16: a purpose. It's figuring out the game plan that you

1567
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 16: like to be able to take advantage of the defense

1568
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 16: and the little intricacies that maybe they're not very good

1569
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 16: at where their weaknesses are. But then you've got to

1570
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 16: go out and execute it during the week and then

1571
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,719
Speaker 16: have confidence and be able to do it on Sundays.

1572
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 2: Haf how do you change one of the two points

1573
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 2: of emphasis this season? We're obviously turnovers and we talk

1574
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 2: about every week on a Friday, be clean on special teams?

1575
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 2: Can we just be even?

1576
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 5: We don't.

1577
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 2: We're not even trying to win special teams. We just

1578
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 2: want to be even on special teams. We're in a

1579
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,600
Speaker 2: position now we're in a turnover desk deficit. Is it

1580
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 2: nine straight games going back to last year, we're in

1581
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 2: a turnover deficit. We can't get special teams right to

1582
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 2: save our lives. I mean, we're blocked, getting punts blocked.

1583
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:44,679
Speaker 2: We God bless Corey for hanging it out and making

1584
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 2: it work, but it's another return. Yeah games, Yeah, it's

1585
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 2: too much. So how do you and I guess this

1586
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 2: is a bigger issue for the whole team, right because

1587
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 2: the one thing that has been great has been the defense,

1588
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 2: but they can only do so much. How do you

1589
01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 2: make sure that the things you're talking about, like betting

1590
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 2: those things in practice, getting on the same page, getting

1591
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 2: it fixed. How do you do that when you have

1592
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 2: what has been kind of a mess here two games through.

1593
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 16: Yeah, special teams obviously been very disappointing. Bubba Ventron, former

1594
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 16: teammate of mine. We all think that he's a very

1595
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 16: good special teams coach, but unfortunately the results on the

1596
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 16: field are your resume, and through two weeks, you've missed kicks,

1597
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 16: You've had kicks blocked, You've had turnovers and penalties on

1598
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 16: special teams. And for a team that wants to win

1599
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 16: with defense in the run game, you got to be

1600
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 16: great on special teams. And one thing I learned from

1601
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:32,719
Speaker 16: Romeo Cornell my first couple of years in the NFL

1602
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 16: that I liked, and I think that works on defense

1603
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 16: especially and on special teams, is like, hey, here's our

1604
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 16: game plan.

1605
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 4: We're going to do these things.

1606
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 16: If we don't do a good job of it on Thursday,

1607
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 16: we're just throwing it out of the game plan because

1608
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 16: there's no sense in trying to go out there and

1609
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 16: thinking we're going to get it right Friday, Saturday or Sunday,

1610
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 16: because we won't. So we'll just have a smaller game plan.

1611
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 16: We're going to cut things way back, and we're going

1612
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:53,640
Speaker 16: to do things that we can execute and that we

1613
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:56,640
Speaker 16: can do competently. We may not win special teams, but

1614
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 16: you know what, we're not going to lose it on

1615
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 16: special teams. And so I think they're going to be

1616
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 16: going back to the drawing board one figuring out, all right,

1617
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 16: where are the mistakes coming from? Is it one guy

1618
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 16: here and there? Okay, well, then maybe we're doing too

1619
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 16: many different concepts. Is it the same guys over and

1620
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 16: over again? All right, we're gonna remove them because typically

1621
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 16: in special teams it's your backups that are playing those positions,

1622
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 16: and maybe we got to find somebody else to play

1623
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 16: that position, because you're not giving us enough on offense

1624
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 16: or defense to justify putting you out there on special

1625
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,640
Speaker 16: teams and having you make these critical errors that are

1626
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 16: causing turnovers and huge plays in the game.

1627
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:34,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's it's it's frustrating. Yeah, I mean, it's

1628
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 3: a frustrating thing. And you're right, the margin vera for

1629
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:38,679
Speaker 3: this team. Like, if this team's going to win games,

1630
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 3: it has to play clean football. There's it's not gonna

1631
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 3: be sexy. This is not gonna be a sexy brand

1632
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 3: of football. But that's how this team is gonna have

1633
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 3: to win games.

1634
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 10: Uh.

1635
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:50,480
Speaker 3: And then to that point you mentioned, you know, defensively,

1636
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:52,679
Speaker 3: we talked about how good this defense has been. Miles

1637
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 3: has been spectacular. But you know, if you're a team,

1638
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 3: let's say I'm gonna get you know, when the hof

1639
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 3: you're playing, we can leave you on an island at

1640
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:06,759
Speaker 3: left tackle, but when you go out sometimes you cannot

1641
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 3: keep doing we can't keep acting like you're at left tackle.

1642
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 3: And I thought yesterday in the game it was very tough.

1643
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 3: Once we're already without mj Emerson, then Denzel's out with

1644
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 3: cramps and we're playing man coverage and it was like,

1645
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 3: and I feel bad for the kid, but it was

1646
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 3: like the Raven's Todd Munkin was like, oh, Cam Mitchell's

1647
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 3: in the game. First plays in the game, right at him, touchdown.

1648
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 3: They go at him, three different touchdowns at him, Miles

1649
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 3: Harden touchdown at him, and we're playing You know, I

1650
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 3: was looking up in twenty twenty three when we were

1651
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 3: the number one defense. We did play a ton of man.

1652
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 3: That's our calling card, and you know we were very

1653
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 3: good and eighty like a seventy eight to eighty rating

1654
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 3: allowed so far this year in man coverage. And that

1655
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:49,719
Speaker 3: thinks about how big the rating must have been this week,

1656
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 3: because in Week one we absolutely shut down the Cincinnati Bengals.

1657
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 3: We're giving up one hundred and thirty rating in coverage

1658
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 3: and basically ten yards and a target in coverage in man.

1659
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 3: And that's all from last week, because again there was

1660
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 3: nothing week one. How do you have to adjust on

1661
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 3: the fly who you are because it's it's sometimes it's

1662
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 3: horses for courses, right they say that in golf all

1663
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 3: the time.

1664
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 4: Yep.

1665
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 3: But you know, I'm just looking right now and talking

1666
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 3: about the secondary. This is Baltimore. They air secondary. Their

1667
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 3: cornerback room, they have six corners. They have three ones,

1668
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 3: A two, A four, and an undrafted free agent. Our

1669
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 3: cornerback room is Denzel and Newsom are both ones. Then

1670
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,759
Speaker 3: you've got undrafted free agent. Undrafted free agent Cam Mitchell's

1671
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 3: a five, Miles Hardens a seven. There's gonna be a dropoff.

1672
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 3: There's a difference between ones and twos and not in

1673
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 3: this league.

1674
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think that from Jim Schwartz's perspective, they had

1675
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 16: obviously great results after the first week, and so the

1676
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 16: game plan is going to be really similar. And to

1677
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 16: your point, his calling card has always been to play

1678
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 16: a lot of man coverage. That's where they're going to

1679
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 16: be at their best. But there is a huge drop

1680
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 16: off from our second to our third coverage player. So

1681
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 16: I think what they were probably thinking in that game was,

1682
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 16: all right, it was great in the week one. Let's

1683
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 16: keep putting these guys out there, these young guys, and

1684
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 16: see if they can continue to raise their level of

1685
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:09,759
Speaker 16: play and all of a sudden become really really good players.

1686
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 16: Obviously it wasn't working during that game. If I had

1687
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 16: to give maybe a piece of if I was Jim Schwartz,

1688
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 16: this is my argument. Well, we're behind most of the game.

1689
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 16: We have to make something happen. We're still hoping that

1690
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 16: those guys maybe early getting picked on was a little

1691
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 16: bit of an outlier and they're going to figure it

1692
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 16: out because we're talking to them on the sideline. We

1693
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 16: want to give them a chance throughout most of this game.

1694
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 16: And because we're behind, we're more worried right now about

1695
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 16: them running the ball and beating us like that and

1696
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 16: sucking down the clock than we are with them hitting

1697
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 16: plays in the passing game, even though that's obviously what happened.

1698
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 16: But in that instance, it's like we're trying to get

1699
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 16: back in the game. We're trying to make something happen.

1700
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 16: It's a continuation a little bit of what happened last week,

1701
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 16: and we're hoping that maybe they can flip the script.

1702
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 16: And you know what, if it doesn't work. Throughout this

1703
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 16: game we were already behind. We didn't want to die

1704
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 16: by a million paper cuts. And going into week three,

1705
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:06,679
Speaker 16: we're gonna have to change our strategy because obviously teams

1706
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:08,759
Speaker 16: are watching that on film and they're seeing the different

1707
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 16: players that they can pick on in man coverage, and

1708
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 16: the good quarterbacks are going to be able to check

1709
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 16: to it and find the matchup they like and then

1710
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 16: go at it. So being able to disguise now and

1711
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 16: maybe start playing some Cover five, which is man underneath

1712
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 16: with two deep safeties, where now you can start playing

1713
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 16: some help games with some of these guys that are

1714
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 16: getting picked on, and then you still have Newsome and

1715
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 16: you have Denzel on.

1716
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 4: Their island one on one playing man coverage with those guys.

1717
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 16: But the challenge is going to like a Cover five

1718
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 16: against a quarterback like a Lamar Jackson as soon as

1719
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 16: he sees that he's taken off, and you got five

1720
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 16: dudes that are turning their back, and then the only

1721
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 16: people that can tackle them are you're two safeties who

1722
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 16: are deep.

1723
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 4: So it's not a great coverage versus Lamar.

1724
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 16: So I'm sure Jim was thinking about all those things

1725
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:51,560
Speaker 16: in the game and probably in that moment was like,

1726
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 16: all right, they're probably just going to keep running the ball.

1727
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 16: I just don't want to let them run the clock out,

1728
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 16: So let's just keep doing what we're doing, lean on

1729
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 16: these dudes, and give them the entire game to prove

1730
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 16: if they can do it or not.

1731
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 2: All right, haf time for the Trench Report brought to

1732
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 2: you by Big Fig. The mattress made for more crafted

1733
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:10,599
Speaker 2: than Cleveland, just like our Browns. What do you make

1734
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,640
Speaker 2: of the position that around here you made famous. We

1735
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:16,639
Speaker 2: got crazy stuff at tackle? Jack hurt obviously we know that,

1736
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 2: but then this platooning with Dwand and KT. What do

1737
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 2: you make of the tackle situation as we currently stand.

1738
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 16: Well, I think Dwand played a little bit better in

1739
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 16: the game when he was out there this week than

1740
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 16: he did last week, and so that steady progression I

1741
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 16: think is positive. But I'm hoping that he understands he

1742
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 16: needs to get in better shape to be able to

1743
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 16: play a full game, because I think that was the

1744
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 16: report coming.

1745
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 4: Out of there, the heat that it was hot. You know,

1746
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 4: I get it.

1747
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 16: I played in September games where you know, it's been

1748
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 16: cold for a couple of weeks, and all of a sudden,

1749
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 16: it's you know, upper seventies and it's sunny, and you're

1750
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 16: sweating and it feels hot and you're getting tired.

1751
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 4: But you have to be in.

1752
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 16: Good enough shape to be able to play through those

1753
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 16: hot games, because hey, you're going to play some games

1754
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:58,760
Speaker 16: in Carolina and Tampa, in New Orleans and the Dome

1755
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 16: which gets super hot, Like you're going to have to

1756
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 16: deal with that, and so if you want to be

1757
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 16: a great NFL player, I hope that this is a

1758
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:06,639
Speaker 16: wake up call for him a little bit about, Hey,

1759
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 16: I really need to get in better shape and that's

1760
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,640
Speaker 16: up to me. That's not somebody else being able to

1761
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:12,679
Speaker 16: get me in shape because I need to play every

1762
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:14,959
Speaker 16: snap because that's what the position demands.

1763
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it sounded like it was kind of a

1764
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 3: something they decided on before the game, was that he

1765
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 3: was going to get a few plays or series off

1766
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 3: every now and then too, you know. And it was

1767
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 3: hot there, I'll be I'll be honest, I was down

1768
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 3: on the field. It was very humid.

1769
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 2: It was a very Tampa.

1770
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 3: No, it certainly was not Tampa. It was surprising an

1771
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 3: incredibly conditioned athlete missed the majority of.

1772
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 2: It made me think that there, I don't know, I

1773
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:41,440
Speaker 2: almost thought that maybe there was an illness with Denzel

1774
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 2: like that just.

1775
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 3: Was they said. All we were told was cramps.

1776
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I just think as a professional, I mean,

1777
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 2: he's in greater shape as he is. Just impossible that

1778
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 2: he would I don't know.

1779
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 3: The whole thing was surprised, I mean, and then Casey

1780
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 3: Lefton went in and there were a couple of plays

1781
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 3: where he went the wrong way and you could see

1782
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 3: Joel and everybody being like, what in Flacco got a hit?

1783
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 3: And then they said, that's it.

1784
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 2: I don't care like you you're that's enough.

1785
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 5: That's enough.

1786
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 3: We've seen enough of that.

1787
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 16: And I think one thing that I learned as I

1788
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 16: got older was yes, you can fight through when you're

1789
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 16: starting to get those cramps. So I used to get

1790
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 16: like the heat migraine headaches when I would sweat a

1791
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 16: lot in really hot games, where I'd start seeing stars

1792
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 16: and it was hard to see the defense. And I

1793
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 16: learned maybe about my third year that if it's a

1794
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 16: game that it's seventy degrees are above, I'm getting an

1795
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 16: IVY before the game, and I'm telling those trainers to

1796
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 16: have one queued up for me at halftime because if

1797
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 16: I run it at halftime and I'm feeling like I'm

1798
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 16: getting drained, I need those fluids right away. On the sideline,

1799
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,600
Speaker 16: I was drinking Gatorades with three Gator lights, which is

1800
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:37,799
Speaker 16: basically like electrolyte salt powder that they put in there

1801
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 16: because I wanted to stay ahead of it.

1802
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 4: And I knew that that.

1803
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 16: Was an easy insurance policy for my insurance guy there

1804
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 16: zee that I could take and make sure that I

1805
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 16: wasn't going to have these problems. And so the yes,

1806
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 16: I joke, and we've joked before about how long it

1807
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 16: took me to get ready by the time I was

1808
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 16: in my last year in the NFL. But you go

1809
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 16: through these things as a player. Okay, it wasn't that

1810
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 16: hot by like I got temperature standpoint. It wasn't like

1811
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 16: we were playing in Tampa, but it was hot and

1812
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 16: I was sweating a lot, and it affected how I

1813
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 16: could play. Is there something I can do to mitigate

1814
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 16: that in pregame? Okay, if it's over seventy degrees, I'm

1815
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:12,719
Speaker 16: getting an IV and I'm staying ahead of that because

1816
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:15,679
Speaker 16: once they get those cramps and once you start feeling

1817
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 16: that fatigue from the lack of fluids and from that heat, like,

1818
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:21,719
Speaker 16: it's hard to catch back up to that. So hopefully

1819
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 16: the wand understands those things. It's of course obviously being

1820
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 16: in better shape, which he's in better shape than he

1821
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 16: has been in the past, but still not good enough

1822
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 16: to play the whole game, which is the requirement of

1823
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 16: the position. But then also what can I do from

1824
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 16: a hydration standpoint outside of just drinking water, which, okay,

1825
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 16: drink more water. Well, I'm just gonna pee or daring

1826
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 16: before the game. Then, but I need to get electrolytes

1827
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:43,719
Speaker 16: in my body days before.

1828
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 4: I need to.

1829
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 16: Add more carbs which allows my cells to expand a

1830
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 16: little bit to absorb more water and those electrolytes, And

1831
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 16: then before the game, if it's hot, I'm gonna get

1832
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 16: my IV right away, because there's no downside. Yes, it

1833
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 16: takes another thirty minutes to sit in there and get

1834
01:24:58,200 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 16: an IV in the table before the game, but it's

1835
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 16: worth it because I'm gonna feel better and I'm not

1836
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 16: gonna get worn out and get cramps during the game,

1837
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 16: and I don't have to worry about that.

1838
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 3: And he played well in this game. One pressure allowed

1839
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:11,600
Speaker 3: on forty four pass blocking opportunities. That's very good. He

1840
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 3: had lout seven in week one for him, And I

1841
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 3: know you have been mentoring him, and I don't know

1842
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:18,640
Speaker 3: kind of how that's going on during the season, but

1843
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 3: you know, you go back and you watch him his

1844
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 3: one on ones with Trey Hendrickson, who was the reigning

1845
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 3: Sack Champion Week one, he didn't allow a single pressure

1846
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 3: on Trey Hendrickson, and yet he allowed seven pressures in

1847
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 3: the game. So it feels like he's capable, obviously of

1848
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 3: doing it against the very best, and we've seen his

1849
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 3: tape against whether it be Micah or TJ. Watt or

1850
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 3: Nick Bosa, and he can do it. How do you

1851
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 3: get that to be consistent? Because I think that's if

1852
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 3: he does that, he has a chance to be a

1853
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,559
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl or if he can be consistent.

1854
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 16: And that was the theme of all of my conversations

1855
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 16: I had with him in training camp, and that's continued

1856
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 16: to be the theme as I text with him during

1857
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 16: the season, like, bro, look at your potential, look at

1858
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 16: your size and your athleticism and your strength and what

1859
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 16: you can be if you have the proper fitness level

1860
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 16: and you have the proper attention to detail during the week,

1861
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 16: and I was really happy that I saw an improvement.

1862
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 16: We talked after the game about a couple things with

1863
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 16: his hands in the pass pro that kind of was

1864
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 16: shortening the corner, and it was great to see that

1865
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 16: improvement being made.

1866
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 4: And to me, that's when I have hope.

1867
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 16: And optimism in a guy right is like, Okay, these

1868
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 16: are the corrections we need to make.

1869
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 4: You can't fix them all at one time.

1870
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 16: But if we can correct one of them and keep

1871
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 16: everything else the same, like we're making progress and we're

1872
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 16: heading in the right direction. So I was happy with that,

1873
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 16: but for him understanding that the fitness is so important

1874
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 16: because as you get tired, fatigue makes a coward of

1875
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:35,720
Speaker 16: us all, and it starts affecting your brain and how

1876
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 16: you're thinking and the details that it's going into every

1877
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,640
Speaker 16: single play and every single time that you're walking up

1878
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 16: to the line of scrimmage. And so that fitness is

1879
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 16: just so important, not only for just going out and

1880
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:47,719
Speaker 16: being able to run and play and do your assignment,

1881
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 16: but also for how the lack of fatigue will affect

1882
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 16: you when you're on the sideline, when you're in the huddle,

1883
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 16: when you're getting ready to get that next snap. And

1884
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:59,679
Speaker 16: I think about it like I've been hanging tree stands

1885
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 16: last week at the farm, and I try not to

1886
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 16: do more than five hours of like hanging in the

1887
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 16: tree because it's very mentally and physically tiring, and I

1888
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 16: can feel myself getting lazy, which in that situation when

1889
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 16: you're thirty feet up in a tree. You don't want

1890
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:15,519
Speaker 16: to allow yourself to be that way because you have

1891
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 16: to be very, very very detail oriented and like on

1892
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 16: a razor's edge with every movement you make, because it's

1893
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:26,640
Speaker 16: you and you know a thirty foot fall, and so

1894
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,680
Speaker 16: you don't want to let yourself get into that situation

1895
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 16: where fatigue is starting to play on your mind and

1896
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 16: how you're approaching things and the corners that you cut

1897
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:36,839
Speaker 16: when you get tired.

1898
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 2: Well, haffen Zee, the good news with all of this

1899
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:44,440
Speaker 2: is that our reward for the zero and two start

1900
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:46,719
Speaker 2: is we get to play a team that's really struggling

1901
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:48,600
Speaker 2: in the Green Bay Packers, and we get to do

1902
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 2: so they get an extra three days of rest too. Yeah,

1903
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 2: well they need it. So they need the rest to

1904
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:55,599
Speaker 2: get right, and so we have that. I mean, they're

1905
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:58,760
Speaker 2: buzzsa I think they've been the best, most impressive team

1906
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 2: in the NFL the first two weeks. Obviously, you continue

1907
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 2: to reside in the great state of Wisconsin. This is

1908
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:07,639
Speaker 2: a mammoth situation here on Sunday with them coming to town,

1909
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 2: is it not?

1910
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 4: It is?

1911
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 16: And like you mentioned, the way you so eloquently set

1912
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 16: the table here they're coming off of a really good

1913
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:16,679
Speaker 16: Thursday night performance. They got a little bit extra time

1914
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 16: to prepare and get their bodies rested and healed up.

1915
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:21,720
Speaker 16: But I think the Browns they got to realize that

1916
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 16: their back is against the wall, especially an offense, like

1917
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:26,679
Speaker 16: we need to show a different product out there, or

1918
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 16: the defense is going to start losing hope and optimism.

1919
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 4: And when that happens, you start to lose their.

1920
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:33,720
Speaker 16: Effort and their preparation, and then you're not going to

1921
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 16: get the same level of success from the defense as

1922
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 16: the season wears on. If they feel like every time

1923
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 16: we go out there, it's the same old story that

1924
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 16: our offense can't piss a drop and we're just wearing

1925
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 16: ourselves out to force a punt that three plays later

1926
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 16: we're going to be running back out there. And so

1927
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 16: I think hopefully that that mentality where hey, our backs

1928
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 16: are against the wall and we need to put it

1929
01:28:57,040 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 16: together a better showing on offense is enough of a

1930
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 16: wake up call that they make some of these changes

1931
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 16: and they pay a bit more attention to the details

1932
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:09,839
Speaker 16: in practice. And you know, it's it's such a boring

1933
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 16: thing to say, but that is the difference, especially for

1934
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 16: a team that is going to try to win on

1935
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 16: very very razor thin margins with defense and running the

1936
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:19,560
Speaker 16: ball and playing good on special teams. You've got to

1937
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 16: understand that those details in practice are not optional, and

1938
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 16: it's not optional for any single person that walks out

1939
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:27,879
Speaker 16: there and is on the offensive side of the football.

1940
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Speaker 10: No.

1941
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Speaker 3: And it just it feels like right now to kind

1942
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 3: of the point we're making that this is this is

1943
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 3: a we're kind of on the precipice of something here.

1944
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:41,760
Speaker 3: And you know, obviously Joe Flacco is the starting quarterback.

1945
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel came in relief. I don't think there's ever

1946
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 3: a scenario we thought we'd be in this game Baltimore

1947
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 3: that Dylan Gabriel is going to actually get action in

1948
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:51,760
Speaker 3: the without the event of an injury. But yeah, it

1949
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:53,800
Speaker 3: could get it could get late, as we say, could

1950
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:57,479
Speaker 3: get late early because of just how tough this schedule is.

1951
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:01,960
Speaker 3: You may we got to get back to running the football.

1952
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 3: That that kind of is the lynchpin to all of it.

1953
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 3: I thought quinch On again, he came through and looked

1954
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 3: looked very good in that opener, But this was a

1955
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:12,599
Speaker 3: passing attack with Joe Flacco that was, you know, three

1956
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 3: hundred plus yards a game in twenty twenty three and

1957
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 3: so far, you know, he ended up at two ninety

1958
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:22,400
Speaker 3: week one nine this week. It's just the verticality, isn't there.

1959
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 3: It almost feels like teams are able to simultaneously and

1960
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 3: this is what scares me. We talked about the top

1961
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 3: kind of put a bow on it. They're simultaneously able

1962
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 3: to kind of put the umbrella over us and say

1963
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:34,160
Speaker 3: you're not getting the ball down the field. But at

1964
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 3: the same time we're not able to do anything short.

1965
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 3: I mean, we threw a screen at Dylan Sampson that

1966
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 3: Kyle Hamilton read and that's negative three yards passed the

1967
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:41,479
Speaker 3: Jenkins negative four yards.

1968
01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 2: Like it's almost like they.

1969
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 3: Don't respect us going over the top. But then they're

1970
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 3: also saying we don't respect to doing anything short either,

1971
01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:49,839
Speaker 3: and they've eliminated everything somehow.

1972
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Speaker 16: Well, that's the problem, and that's what the results are

1973
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 16: when your offense.

1974
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:54,800
Speaker 4: Is not doing a very good job.

1975
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 2: But I'm that sho we just have a drink, I mean,

1976
01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 2: is that where are we at to have a drink

1977
01:30:59,040 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 2: on a Monday?

1978
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Speaker 5: Hoff?

1979
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Speaker 16: Is that what's time for the let's go no to

1980
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 16: your points on that screen and like I was saying

1981
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:08,639
Speaker 16: about the details, like it's like as a as a player,

1982
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:10,479
Speaker 16: you'd sit there and the coach would just hammered on

1983
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 16: the details, details, details, everything matters, and you just get

1984
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 16: worn out here in it. But it really is the

1985
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:17,360
Speaker 16: difference because on that screenplay, the timing.

1986
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 4: Was a little bit off.

1987
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 16: I don't know if the I don't know if the

1988
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:21,559
Speaker 16: running back was a little bit too wide on his

1989
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:23,760
Speaker 16: aiming point because I'm not sure which play that was

1990
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:26,559
Speaker 16: and where the aiming point exactly was, or the center

1991
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:29,599
Speaker 16: was just a hair slow, and if the center's out

1992
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:31,880
Speaker 16: just a little bit faster, if the running back's just

1993
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:33,720
Speaker 16: not quite as wide, which I don't know, if he's

1994
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:36,040
Speaker 16: not supposed to be there or not. And that's my caveat.

1995
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:38,879
Speaker 16: But that timing between those two guys is so important

1996
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 16: because once you make that block, now you've got a

1997
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 16: convoy of two or three other guys that are running

1998
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:45,680
Speaker 16: down the field. The coverage has already dropped, and so

1999
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:48,679
Speaker 16: you've got a great play. But just the tiniest little

2000
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 16: detail about how quickly you are releasing where's my aiming point?

2001
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 16: When I do release, where's my aiming point when I'm

2002
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:56,280
Speaker 16: trying to catch the ball as the running back, and

2003
01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 16: if you're off on those then the whole play is

2004
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:02,600
Speaker 16: screwed up, and an opportunity to make a big explosive

2005
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 16: play when you're still possibly in the game and it's

2006
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:09,400
Speaker 16: gone because you're just off by that much, you know.

2007
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:12,920
Speaker 16: And so just having that urgency in practice and understanding

2008
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 16: practice is when you make those corrections, you can't go

2009
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 16: out on Sunday and hope to do it right. And

2010
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:19,640
Speaker 16: that's why the practice is so important. That's why you

2011
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 16: have to take it so seriously.

2012
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Speaker 2: Oh if you're the best, buddy, Thanks for your time

2013
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 2: as always on a Monday.

2014
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Speaker 16: Appreciate it. Guys, great to talk with you. I always

2015
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 16: feel better after chatting with you.

2016
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Speaker 4: Fellas.

2017
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Speaker 2: That's it, that's all. You need a little bit of

2018
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Speaker 2: the elixir. The great Hoff joining us for the Joe

2019
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Speaker 2: Thomas half hour of the program and that'll do it

2020
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2021
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2022
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