1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: Radio Radio Radio Commies, A Myth and Bullshit, a radio 2 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: phonic novella Local Radio hosted by Mala La Locomotives. Welcome 3 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: to season four of Local Radios Wanted for Crimes against 4 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: the Patriarchy. We interrupt our regularly scheduled programming to bring 5 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: you Quarantine Confidential, a special pandemic broadcast about our experiences 6 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: with quarantine and COVID nineteen. I'm THEO Sav and I'm Mala. 7 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: Our intention behind this mini series is to archive our 8 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: experiences during this global coronavirus pandemic. Thank you for joining 9 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: us on this journey. 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We are covering some groundbreaking things happening 29 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: in music online. We're going to cover some of the 30 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: discussions today and to intro that, we want to share 31 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: that we just had an exclusive interview with Maria you 32 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: Know Hosa, an award winning journalist, and we talked to 33 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: her about her new book, Once I Was You, Yes, 34 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: Once I Was You, a memoir of love and hate 35 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: in a torn America. Maria you Know Hosa basically chronicles 36 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: her thirty plus year long career as a journalist in radio, audio, 37 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: as well as television and print. She's the founder and 38 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: creator of the Food Media Group. They create podcasts, they 39 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: create all types of amazing, fabulous journalism that centers Latin 40 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: X narratives and stories that are otherwise ignored by mainstream media. 41 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: So we interviewed Maria. It was really exciting. Her folks 42 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: reached out to us to see if we would be 43 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: down to receive copies of her book um and we did. 44 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: We each received a copy and we spoke to Maria 45 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 1: about it, and the full interview with her is coming 46 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: out in September. Yeah, and you know, we typically do 47 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: not share with y'all u when we interview guests that 48 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: we haven't released the audio yet, but we wanted to 49 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: share with y'all that we interviewed Marie because naturally, um 50 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: wop was a topic of today's conversation that we had 51 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: with her. And you know you heard it here first 52 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: that Maria no Hosa has a whop as well, just 53 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: like us. She like, it was so funny because in 54 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: the middle of our interview, you know, we were just 55 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: talking about all kinds of different things and she spoke 56 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: to us for a pretty long period of time. I mean, 57 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: it was like a decent conversation and she's really cool, 58 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: and she was talking about you know, being a Marijuaneda 59 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: and she like pulled out her vape and she was 60 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: vaping while we were talking, and then I asked what 61 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: her song of the summer was, and she talked about 62 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: a lot of her the music that she's listening to 63 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: right now. But then she was like, oh, also um Whop. 64 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: I love Whop. I think it's great. And then she's like, 65 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: let's wet s pussy. Let's talk about it. Let's talk 66 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: about what it takes to have a wet s pussy, 67 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: And we launched into a conversation. So Yes with the 68 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: says is true. We broke the exclusive on look at 69 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: our radio, Maria. You know, Hoosa is the proud owner 70 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: of a whop, a wet s pussy just like the 71 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: rest of us, and we're proud to be part of 72 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: the ranks. Yes, thank Goddess. And that brings us to 73 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: today's conversation. That brings us to today's conversation. We want 74 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: to discuss our initial thoughts feelings about the release, the 75 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: video release, which is amazing and all. So you know, 76 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: we like to break things down, so we're gonna be 77 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: doing that today. My initial thought when I was watching 78 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: the video the music video on YouTube whop um was 79 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: just how much I loved to see the looks, all 80 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: the different looks, the visuals, the hair, the wigs, the nails, 81 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: the makeup. Everything. I was into it. And the first 82 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: thing I thought of, or one of the first things 83 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: I did, was I texted Mala and I was like, 84 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: you know, I think that we need to cover this 85 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: on the pod and we need to bring back goddess worship. 86 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: And how is the music video an example of gods worship? 87 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: What were your thoughts, Mala? It's definitely for me an 88 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: example of goddess worship. I mean Cardi B and Megan 89 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: the Stallion. They created a masterpiece. To be honest, like 90 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: this song is an anthem. It is going to have 91 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: like reverberations forever. This is an iconic video. The video 92 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: that they put out first was the radio edit, and 93 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: so instead of you know, the name whop is an 94 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: acronym for wet s pussy, but instead of singing out 95 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: those lyrics on the video, the radio edit had um 96 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: wet and gushy. So there were some like differences. And 97 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: I went back on YouTube and I looked up, you know, 98 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: the the official audio with the full lyrics, and it's 99 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: so good, Like I feel like this is a lyrical masterpiece. 100 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: Like Cardian Megan really did an incredible job just with 101 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: their verses, um with the choreography in the video. And 102 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: I really loved just this sort of genre of music 103 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: that's all about centering women's sexual pleasure and really worshiping 104 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: and obsessing over like women's bodies. I think it's awesome, 105 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: especially when we, you know, we do still live in 106 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: the midst of very intense violence against women, including sexual violence. 107 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: So to actually, like, you know, put the pussy on 108 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: a on a pedestal is like a really fun, exciting 109 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: thing and there's a reason why we love it so 110 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: much because it's not really something that happens all that 111 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: often if we actually think about it, right absolutely, I mean, 112 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: what could also be an acronym for worship at the 113 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: pussy like it works? And yeah, I agree, I agree 114 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: with you, Mala, Like it's not common that we see 115 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: women's sexuality being centered or even our pleasure being centered, 116 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: and what we do it never fails. There's always pushed 117 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: back from men and women saying like we're specifically Megan 118 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: and Cardi are like bringing women back hundreds of years, um, 119 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: they themselves to individuals are bringing back any of the 120 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: progress that women have made um, you know, and and 121 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: all kinds of other misogynistic and sexist things, and also 122 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: adding the layer that these are two black women. You know, 123 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: you cannot forget that misogyn art exist and um yeah, 124 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: and so I you know, I loved it. It is 125 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: you know. I loved the visuals. I loved the choreography, 126 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: everything about it. Um, there were some some there were 127 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: two things that I did not love, but which I'm 128 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: sure that you can also agree with me. Mala. There 129 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: were two, maybe particular people that we did not love 130 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: to see, two individuals that were a surprise to us all. 131 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: I think I was surprised. M hm. I was surprised. 132 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: There was drama so ahead, there was drama. There was drama. 133 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: We'll talk about it, talk about it. So I mean 134 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: the video, I mean, obviously you know, it's Cardi, it's Megan, 135 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: but they also featured other artists in the video, including 136 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: like Normany had like a dance so low. There's a 137 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: rapper named Suki Hanna and she was in there, Mulatto 138 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: but also popped up in the middle of the video 139 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: Kylie Jenner Ross and Shine and towards the end. And 140 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: there was some controversy because Obviously, Kylie is Kylie, and 141 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: we know she's like the appropriate or in chief. And 142 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: then we have Rosalia, who has also been at the 143 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: center of a lot of dialogue and discourse about appropriation 144 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: and who gets centered. I think it's celebrated, yes, and 145 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: so um controversy, right, I mean, like you said, like 146 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: you mentioned, Rosalia has been at the center of conversations 147 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: around Latini lad and Latin music and what it means 148 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: when we have these labels and who's being um, who's 149 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: given the resources, who's being put at the center um, 150 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: and who's being ignored as well. It's not The critiques 151 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: about Rosa are of course about Rosalia as an individual, 152 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: but more so as a critique of the industry in general. 153 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: And so yeah, there was a petition. According to Variety, 154 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: over fifty people have signed a petition to remove Kylie 155 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: from the WAP video. And I also think it was 156 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: really interesting that she got a lot of camera time, 157 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: like a lot compared to the other women that were 158 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: dancing like she was just she was just walking through 159 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: and she was strutting. It was a strut, I will 160 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: admit she it was a strut um. But the you know, 161 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: like normany that had this amazing like dance choreography, Like 162 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: it was glimpses of like Normandy and Sukiana and Momato. 163 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: But Kylie you had like a lot of time. Yeah, 164 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: it's interesting. I always wonder, you know, just like who 165 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: gets these kinds of decisions when it comes to like 166 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: the creative direction and the editing, right, because it's one thing, 167 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: um to have your vision, like say your car to 168 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: your megan or you know, the costume designer, the choreographer, 169 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: and you have your input and you have your vision 170 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: and things get filmed and you get all your your takes, 171 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: But then when it's in the editing room, and then 172 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: like who gets those final decisions on what happens? And 173 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: I'm always curious about, like how do we get to 174 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: a place where we have Kylie Jenner with this long 175 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: you know, walk down the hall. But I mean, you know, 176 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure that there's like a million reasons. Like it's 177 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: not random. These things cost a lot of money, so 178 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: there has to be reasons. Yeah, there's always a reason. 179 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: There's always an explanation as to why things happen the 180 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: way they do, especially when it comes down to the 181 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: editing process. Um. But you know, it's still a pop 182 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: seven days a week when people have been the folks 183 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: on the internet of course on Twitter have been editing 184 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: out Kylie and inserting their own little videos, grabbing from 185 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: different from different scenes and like movies and music, and 186 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: it's like really funny to see the creativity flourish because 187 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: folks want Kylie out of the video. Truly. That's one 188 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: of my favorite Like when new media comes out with 189 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: a new song or a new video comes out, I 190 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: feel like the best part sometimes is like what the 191 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: Internet does with it, and then all the memes and 192 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: the offshoots and like the subcontent that comes after people 193 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: have had a couple hours, you know, with some new 194 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: content and then they flip it in come up with 195 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: new trends and new hashtags, and it's exciting. You know, 196 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, what is this going to precipitate? Absolutely, 197 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: and you know, I will say that I also loved 198 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 1: the like very sexual dynamic between Megan and Cardi B 199 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: because they are both bisexual. Bisexual icons there I say, 200 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: and I love it, and so there was definitely a 201 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: sexual energy that I feel as a video that they 202 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: were playing off of in the video, and I loved it. 203 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: I was here for it, and that lead. Of course, 204 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: the Internet finds everything, like they dug up an old 205 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: video of Megan the Stallion talking about the type of 206 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: types of women that she likes and is attracted to. Yeah, 207 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: so turns out Megan likes petite girls with tattoos and 208 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: Spanish girls quote unquote with big butts. So she described us. 209 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: I think I think that, yes, that's both of us. 210 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: I think Megan the Stallion, I think we're her type. 211 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: I hope, I pray. We're just gonna put that out 212 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: there into the universe. I'm available if so. If that, 213 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: I also hope in perm around I'm around. Yes, I 214 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: hope and pray yes. And you know, I feel like 215 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: Cardi b has been very nonchalant about her not because 216 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: not that she has to like be like out and 217 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: proud or anything, but and I say this in like 218 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: a very respectful way, like I like that she's been 219 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: very nonchalant, like oh yeah, I like girls too, or 220 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm also very bisexual. And she kind of 221 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: just moves on, like she tweets these things and the 222 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: two moves on from them. And I appreciate that about her. Yeah, 223 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: so I'm here for it. I'm here for the bisexual representation. Yeah. 224 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: I like, you know, it's good to have just people 225 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: being like their authentic selves and having like a variety 226 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: of that sort of representation, you know, Like I feel 227 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: like there's the we have. We'll have like a Sarah 228 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: Ramirez that's like way vocal and like way out there right, 229 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: or we can have like a CARDI who's like a 230 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: little bit more like just kind of when it comes up, 231 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: it comes up, and it's like a topic amongst me, 232 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: you know, and just having the spectrum lovely thing. I agree, Yeah, 233 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: I love that. Or Cara and and and and and 234 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: and and and and and and and and and and 235 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: and and and and and and and and and and 236 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: and um um um um um um um um m 237 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: of it and ship. Not everyone has been so enthusiastic 238 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: about the song though, Like I think most people are 239 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: really excited about what us pussy. I know, I've been 240 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, listening on my walks with the dog and 241 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: should I happen to like leave my house to go 242 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: to the market, like I left yesterday to like go 243 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: to Starbucks. I've been I've been blasting it, um, but 244 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: not everybody has loved it. Yeah, So a congressional candidate, 245 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: James P. Bradley tweeted, what happens or what us pussy? 246 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: The song is what happens when children are without God 247 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: and without a strong father figure. He also said that 248 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: he heard it accidentally, which is highly says because to 249 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: something accident when it's not even on the radio. I'm like, 250 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: did you accidentally watch the video to yeah? Right right, No, 251 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: this man anything not only super salty for no reason 252 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: and clearly dying. Like you know, the day that it 253 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: came out, you had to like follow a link or 254 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: go and like look it up somewhere to go listen 255 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: to it. Um, he didn't accidentally hear it. And he's 256 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: also based in California. He's a conservative congressional candidate. He's 257 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: running for office. He's running for public office. And there 258 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: were a couple other like conservative candidates running for public office, 259 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: like congressional candidates who were tweeting about WOP negatively yesterday, 260 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: talking about you know, these women cannot call themselves queens, 261 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: and I mean, I think there's an inherent anti blackness 262 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: going on. It appeared to me that these people are 263 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:45,239 Speaker 1: white people, including James Bradley. There's Annus absolutely, I mean 264 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: even him saying like without a strong father figure, that 265 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: is so coded, that is so coded when like historically 266 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: that is the stereotype and generalization made about the Black 267 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: community that black men are absent fathers and so rooted 268 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: an anti lackness and there's just a life Coarnie talks 269 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: about her house about her dad, like her dad is 270 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: way very around. Also, I wanted to say when I 271 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: read this comment, like, well, I did grow up with 272 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: God and also a strong father and this is still 273 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: a bop and I still love this song. So yeah, 274 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: what does the presence or lack of a wet ass 275 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: pussy have to do with any of those things? Nothing? Nothing, right? 276 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: I also think I also think that this is like 277 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: actually good dialogue in case you don't have a wet 278 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: s pussy, Like what if you I don't know that 279 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: you're supposed to have a wet s pussy when you're 280 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: going to have sex? Like actually, like I'm actually saying 281 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: this because because if you're not if you're not taught one, 282 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: if you don't have an actual sex head, right, if 283 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: you don't have actual sex education and you don't have 284 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: an actual sex talk from your parents, had centered around pleasure, 285 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: which I highly doubt any of us had, right, Um, 286 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: do you know? And you're not right? And if you're 287 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: not talking about sex with your peers, especially if you're 288 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: a young woman and of a consenting age, like, do 289 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: you know that you should have a wet pussy? Like actually, 290 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: And so I actually think that it is a good 291 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: conversation to have. And I'm hoping that you know, anyone 292 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: with pussy out there that didn't know is like going 293 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,479 Speaker 1: to think about it, like, oh, you know, I need 294 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: to I need whoever my sexual partner may be, like, 295 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: also has to get me to that point for us 296 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: to have any type of intercourse, right, whether that be 297 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: penetrative or not, Like, in order for me to be 298 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: aroused and have a clitteral or to have any type 299 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: of orgasm, Um, I need to have a wet s pussy, right, 300 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: Like you know, there's a very basic conversation to be 301 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: had about, you know, the importance of lubrication in any 302 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: sexual experience, especially if there is penetrative sex of any 303 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: kind going on. And I think too, you know, it 304 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: also opens up the conversation to options like lube because 305 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: you know, like everyone's dealing with their own bodies and 306 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: like different Um, people create their natural lubrication at different levels, right, 307 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: and so there's that, Like it's it just it opens 308 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: up all kinds of conversations, not to like over analyze it, 309 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: but that's what comes up, you know with stuff like this, 310 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: With songs like this, it elicits questions and sparks ideas 311 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: and all that good stuff. Absolutely. I mean I am 312 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: a proud lubricant user. You know, once you get to 313 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: a certain age and you're on certain meds like can 314 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: like mess up your natural lubrication and you need extra 315 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: things to help, and that's totally fine. So yes, I 316 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: think that it is good for us to center the 317 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: wetest pussies in all conversations and all convos from here 318 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: on out. Um, there's a lot to talk about, especially 319 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: if you if you've been on the internet like um 320 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: and kind of following along with the social dialogue around 321 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: the release of this song. Um, you know, there's also 322 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: been conversation about how black women have this music history 323 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: and legacy of creating songs that center you know, black 324 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: women's sexual agency and bodily autonomy. So you know, um, 325 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: kind of how a song like this in a lot 326 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: of ways is a throwback to musicians of the past 327 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: like Millie Jackson, UM, folks like Betty Davis, who is 328 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: definitely like a pioneer of raw can roll and and 329 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: singing about um sexuality. But there's also like Little Kim 330 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: and Foxy Brown and Missy Elliott and then just historically 331 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: in hip hop like the video Vixen in general, a 332 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: lot of those aesthetics I think we saw on this video, 333 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,959 Speaker 1: and like the dancers that you might see like backup 334 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: dancers are like the dancers from the two Live Crew 335 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: and um, I mean there's just so many Janet Jackson like. 336 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: So also kind of just giving respect to the to 337 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: this as like a genre like this is a genre 338 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: of music basically on its own that really has been 339 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: pioneered by black women musicians in the United States, I 340 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: would say at least that's where we're having this conversation, 341 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: so to really like shout out that sort of like 342 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: legacy there, because I think it also is easy to 343 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: kind of every time a song like this pops up, 344 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: folks like James P. Bradley, you know, kind of point 345 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: to it as this this is, you know, a sign 346 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: of the moral degradation of our society and this is 347 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: the worst thing and this is everything that's wrong when 348 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: that's so not what's going on here, you know, right right, 349 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: I agree, And I think it also shows like you know, 350 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: for folks that don't know, because it didn't receive a 351 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: lot of public response, but if you are on the internet, 352 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: you may have seen this conversation happening. But Megan the 353 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: Stallion was shot by rapper Tory Lanes, and there really 354 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: was no there was very little media coverage, and you know, 355 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: also is an implication of the way we as a 356 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: society treat violence against black women, and there was not 357 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: enough coverage, and I feel like the conversation kind of 358 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: died down since it happened. Yeah, it's it's one of 359 00:23:54,560 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: those things where this situation with Tory Lanes, who shot 360 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: Megan the Stallion in her feet like multiple times pointing 361 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: out right, like she's a performer and a dancer, Like 362 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: she's on stage all the time and she's dancing and 363 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: that's her job, so it appears to be super intentional. 364 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: I haven't really heard or seen correct me if I'm wrong, 365 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: but I haven't seen really like too many public callouts 366 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: of Tory Lanes or demands for justice or demands for 367 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: him to be held accountable. I don't know, but you know, 368 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: people are easily angered by her new song. That's an 369 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,719 Speaker 1: amazing song, and she looks amazing and she did an 370 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: amazing job. But people can be very righteously angry at 371 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: her for creating this song worshiping wet as pussy. But 372 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: when she was viciously attacked, where was the outrage? No, 373 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: I called it right, Where was the outrage? And also 374 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: like I didn't see any, But just because I didn't 375 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: see any doesn't mean it wasn't happening. But what I 376 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: saw from from black Twitter was that there were a 377 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: lot of memes made about Megan being shot by Tory 378 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: Lanes and it was almost like used as like a 379 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: comedic relief, you know, that she was shot and means 380 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: were made. I think it's also important to contextualize that 381 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: as well, like that there has been there was both 382 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: silence from any like media coverage, and then also when 383 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: it was being talked about, it was being talked about 384 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: in a funny way. And so the black women that 385 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: I do follow on Twitter, we're having this conversation about 386 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: black women being needing to be protected. Do you know 387 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: what's so wild is, like we talked, we've talked about 388 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: this like so much on the podcast at this point, 389 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: but as always relevant to bring up again because it 390 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: continues the way that violence against women is in fact 391 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: entertainment in the United States, there is a history that 392 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: really positions violence against women as its own type and 393 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: form of of like media and content. It's its own 394 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: genre in its own right. And I was listening to 395 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: this podcast called Dolly Parton's America and they do an 396 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: episode about some songs that Dolly Parton wrote where she's 397 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: basically writing from the perspective of women who had been murdered. 398 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: And you know, Dolly Parton's like from Appalachia, and she 399 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 1: grew up with a lot of like these like Irish 400 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: and Scottish, like traveling ballads, and she explains that like 401 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: back in the day, and like back back back in 402 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: the day, like things would happen in towns, like a 403 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: man would murder a woman or his wife or his girlfriend, 404 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: and then there would be a public trial or there 405 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: would be a public execution, or it would be in 406 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: the paper or like whatever it us. And then you 407 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: would have these like traveling songwriters who would just basically right, 408 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: the story of how this man killed this woman and 409 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: dumped her body in the in the lake or in 410 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: the river, and then they would become these like traveling 411 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: ballads that then became like folk tunes and part of 412 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: popular culture. And so Dolly being like this little this 413 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: little white girl like in Appalachia, like this is part 414 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: of like the culture in the community and part of 415 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 1: like what was the music and entertainment was this genre 416 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: of song that was literally just all about like men 417 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: murdering women. Um. And then how she then kind of 418 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: like ended up writing lots of her songs almost as 419 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: if through the eyes of those women or right, giving 420 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: voice to the women's experiences. And it's just so like, Okay, 421 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: so Megan the stallion gets shot in the fee and 422 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: it's traumatic and this vicious attack on her, and then 423 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: you know, right away it the stuff of her trauma 424 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: gets turned into pop culture and content and streams and 425 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: likes and like it becomes entertainment in in in a 426 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: similar sort of vein right, and and in the ways 427 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: that are particular to make in is a black woman 428 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: in America. But it's just like very mind boggling to me. 429 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: But we continue because we live in a rape culture 430 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: and so this is what happens. Yes, thank you for 431 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: bringing that source the podcast. That's that's such a really 432 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: a really great um piece of information that you brought 433 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: to the to this episode. Um okay. And so the 434 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: last thing that we wanted to touch upon in particular 435 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: to this music video and the visuals and esthetics is 436 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: I saw this tweet and I'm going to quote this woman, 437 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: Bria M. Johnson. Her handle is at the Black Layers, 438 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: and she talks about she has this tweet where she 439 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: says hoest survival and host fun slash reclamation are different things. 440 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: And then she continues to say, people who are marked 441 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: as quote ho are also a poor working class and 442 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: do not get the fun of the experience experience or 443 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: the quote agency reclamation. And so I wanted to bring 444 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: that to this conversation as well and just remind us, 445 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: remind ourselves and remind our listeners that a lot of 446 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: the hole aesthetics that we love are rooted in sex workers, 447 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: like come from sex workers and the things that we love, 448 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to uh these any visuals I 449 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: think that have become very mainstream and popularized have been 450 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: made possible by sex workers and also remembering that they 451 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: um continue to face violence, are not protected, and there's 452 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: an ongoing movement to decriminal decriminalized sex work. Yes, decriminalized 453 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: sex work. Also apparently dancers strippers are unionizing, which it's 454 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: about time to be honest, Um, there are like no 455 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: protections in that line of work and they need them. Yeah, 456 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 1: And you know, if you we have an older episode 457 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: ode um, I want to say it was season three, 458 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: maybe it was season two, and we interviewed and we 459 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: talked about the eroticus power and she is a sex 460 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: worker and she when we talked about these different topics 461 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: as well. 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