Speaker 1: I gotta get into something that's hitting a little close
Speaker 1: to home because there seems to be something percolating between
Speaker 1: one of my colleagues at ESPN one and only, Ryan Clark,
Speaker 1: or seeing my brother from the Pivot podcast. Obviously an
Speaker 1: extraordinary NFL analyst for ESPN, a contributor to First Take,
Speaker 1: Get Up, and other shows on ESPN like NFL Live,
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, Monday Night NFL.
Speaker 2: Countdown, etc. This is who Ryan Clark is.
Speaker 1: He's an incredible asset to the ESPN family. He's a
Speaker 1: personal friend of mine. Brother got love for him, and
Speaker 1: he was on First Take last week really going at
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, even called them a fraud and just clapped
Speaker 1: at him big time for some of the things that
Speaker 1: he has said and done, particularly in his less than
Speaker 1: illustrious time with the New York Jets. Even though over
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks so Aaron Rodgers been balling,
Speaker 1: throwing for six hundred and twenty eight yards for touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no picks at all over the last couple of games. Nevertheless,
Speaker 1: when he spoke and said what he said, Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: who's a weekly guest on Pat McAfee's show on ESPN,
Speaker 1: had this to say about Ryan Clark.
Speaker 2: Quote, say whatever the expletive.
Speaker 1: You want about me, I don't care, but just before
Speaker 1: you do it, whether you state your name, your alcolades, pronouns,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, just state your VAX's status so that
Speaker 1: anything you say afterwards gets you put in the right light.
Speaker 2: Just get it out there. That was Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: If you know anything about my man, Ryan Clark, he
Speaker 1: ain't gonna take stuff like that sit down.
Speaker 2: That's just not how he rolls to anybody, especially.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a proud black man, so you're a
Speaker 1: white dude coming at him, He's gonna raise his antennas
Speaker 1: even more. I'm just telling you who I know. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he said anything like that. I just know him, okay,
Speaker 1: and that we've known each other for years. So needless
Speaker 1: to say, I was anticipating when I saw that quote
Speaker 1: from Aaron Rodgers that Ryan Clark would have a response.
Speaker 2: I didn't know it was gonna be a four minute.
Speaker 1: One on acts, but Ryan Clark that's what he does
Speaker 1: when he has something to say. So I decided to
Speaker 1: peel about two minutes from it to hear for y'all
Speaker 1: is see yourselves he is Ryan Clark, responding to Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3: My name is Ryan Clark. Played thirteen years in the NFL,
Speaker 3: been the two Super Bowls. I have as many rings
Speaker 3: as you do. I was the captain of two separate
Speaker 3: football teams. I'm also an Emmy winner. I'm also the
Speaker 3: co host, owner and partner of an Emmy nominated podcast
Speaker 3: called The Pivot. Now I know something else you were
Speaker 3: very interested in was my vaccination status. And yes, I'm
Speaker 3: vaxsed because I have no spleen, I have no gallbladder,
Speaker 3: because of playing in Denver and being willing to go back,
Speaker 3: honestly and play again. Cause I've been in those locker rooms,
Speaker 3: and I've talked to people that have been in the
Speaker 3: locker rooms with you. I have the stories, I have
Speaker 3: all the things that they said that informed my opinion
Speaker 3: of who you are. And as far as your vaccination status,
Speaker 3: so you can stop trying to trick people into thinking
Speaker 3: that we wanna talk about that above the stink of
Speaker 3: your film. I've never heard it one more time after
Speaker 3: your incident, and the only reason we spoke about it
Speaker 3: then was because based on your vaccination status, it was
Speaker 3: going to determine how long you were out. And also
Speaker 3: people didn't care that you weren't vaccinated. They cared that
Speaker 3: you were slimy about it. They cared that you were
Speaker 3: deceitful about it, and they care that you had this
Speaker 3: air of arrogance when answering the questions about it, and
Speaker 3: you've kind of only been the only person that's talked
Speaker 3: about it since. But let me be very very clear,
Speaker 3: my job is to analyze you. You've decided to analyze me,
Speaker 3: and in analyzing you, what I know is your QBRS
Speaker 3: twenty First, also know that you're the quarterback of a
Speaker 3: four and ten team who has to win the last
Speaker 3: three games of the season to even be equal to
Speaker 3: what last year's team was without you.
Speaker 2: Now, I get it.
Speaker 3: You get on the show and you talk about my
Speaker 3: broach and you curse and all that's tough talk. I
Speaker 3: just need you to know though none of that scared me.
Speaker 3: I'm'a do my job the way I'm supposed to do it.
Speaker 3: I feel no way about not being able to talk
Speaker 3: about what the film says because of what my career was.
Speaker 1: And if you.
Speaker 3: Continue to be arrogant or smug or hypocritical, and it
Speaker 3: pertains to my job. I'm gonna do it, and I
Speaker 3: wanna remind you again. I'm Ryan Clark, thirteen years, Emmy winner,
Speaker 3: host of an Emmy nominated podcast and speaking of that
Speaker 3: jealousy and guest stuff The Rock, Kevin Hart, Mike Tomlin,
Speaker 3: Devonte Adams, Joe Burrow, Shaq just to name a few.
Speaker 3: No money, just relationships, conversations and respects. What I tried
Speaker 3: to give you and we'll keep it that way.
Speaker 2: As long as you want it like that. Appreciate you,
Speaker 2: Wow Riveting's words.
Speaker 1: Why my brother Ryan Clark, I will doubt that by
Speaker 1: one second.
Speaker 2: Couple of things to peel from all of this. Number one.
Speaker 1: In the past, on many occasions, I've been accused of
Speaker 1: having a man crush on Aaron Rodgers. I believe it's
Speaker 1: a talent at his best in his prime in Roote
Speaker 1: four le MVP honors. It's one of the greatest quarterbacks
Speaker 1: we've ever seen in our lives.
Speaker 2: He's still that way.
Speaker 1: I think that Aaron Rodgers, up until Patrick Mahomes came along,
Speaker 1: was the greatest talent at the quarterback position I'd ever
Speaker 1: seen with my two eys, so there's nothing to debate
Speaker 1: about the greatness of Aaron Rodgers and the fact that
Speaker 1: he's destined for the Hall of Fame, because when you
Speaker 1: have his resume, it.
Speaker 2: Is what it is.
Speaker 1: But Ryan Clark, his words cannot be diluted or minimized
Speaker 1: because what he pointed out was accurate. Aaron Rodgers QBR
Speaker 1: is twenty one. The New York Jets are four and
Speaker 1: ten up until four a couple of weeks ago. Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers looks horrid as a quarterback for the New York Jets.
Speaker 1: It's been years since he's thrown for over three hundred
Speaker 1: yards in the game, and the precipitous drop.
Speaker 2: Off has been alarming. Over the last two weeks.
Speaker 1: Six hundred and twenty eight passing yards for touchdowns, no
Speaker 1: picks over the last seven games thirteen touchdowns just won
Speaker 1: an interception of passer.
Speaker 2: Rating of one hundred point four. Very impressive.
Speaker 1: But the reality is that Aaron Rodgers looked as like
Speaker 1: a shell of himself, and one has no doubt that
Speaker 1: that must hurt him to hear from anybody. And what
Speaker 1: I like about this conversation, And I say like because
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by it. See this isn't Aaron Rodgers clapping
Speaker 1: at a reporter. This is Aaron Rodgers going at a
Speaker 1: former contemporary, a member of the club, a member to click.
Speaker 1: You remember, you're a National Football League player, you're a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion.
Speaker 2: You apply, you qualify.
Speaker 1: So Aaron Rodgers can'd come at Ryan Clark the way
Speaker 1: he would come at say some they like me who's
Speaker 1: never played football, or a pluthoro of other pundits and
Speaker 1: commentators out there who have never played the game or
Speaker 1: any professional sport for that matter.
Speaker 2: That is not Ryan Clark. That is not Ryan Clark.
Speaker 2: And so when you.
Speaker 1: Tried to come at him that way, that was mistake
Speaker 1: number one.
Speaker 2: Mistake number two.
Speaker 1: You brought up the vac status because evidently Amon Rodgers
Speaker 1: feels that anybody who took the vaccine, their opinions are
Speaker 1: to be dismissed.
Speaker 2: Because there's so much that we've.
Speaker 1: Learned about the whole COVID vaccine and everything that transpired
Speaker 1: during that time that conspiracy theorists at the time to
Speaker 1: Amon Rodgers, the Kyrie Irvings and others ended up looking
Speaker 1: a lot better later on, and in fairness, a lot
Speaker 1: better than the rest of.
Speaker 2: Us, myself included.
Speaker 1: Here's the flip side, Ryan Clark pointed out, it wasn't
Speaker 1: that you took the vaccine or that you didn't take
Speaker 1: the vaccine. Is that he used the word slimy. I'm
Speaker 1: saying you were lying. You said you were immunized. You
Speaker 1: gave the impression that you were vaccinated, and you didn't
Speaker 1: man up in state.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't take the vaccine.
Speaker 1: And guess what, as an NFL player, Aaron Rodgers didn't
Speaker 1: have to take the vaccine. You would have still been
Speaker 1: allowed to play. So there was no reason to give
Speaker 1: the impression that you were vaccinated when in fact you weren't.
Speaker 1: And you being seen as a stand up guy that
Speaker 1: called it like you saw it and was honest and forthcoming,
Speaker 1: then it come across like that when it came to
Speaker 1: the whole vaccination issue. That's what Ryan Clark was pointing to,
Speaker 1: and he's right about that.
Speaker 2: When it gets to the credentials.
Speaker 1: Of Ryan Clarke, let me say this, Ryan Clark is
Speaker 1: a contributor to the first tape. Ryan Clarke is one
Speaker 1: of the most brilliant football analysts we have in the
Speaker 1: business today. His ethics, his professionalism, his cool nucleus of
Speaker 1: his soul is not to be questioned. Now me, those
Speaker 1: broaches that he's got on his blaze is the big ARC.
Speaker 2: I don't think you need that, bro. Everybody know who
Speaker 2: you are. See when you large RC, you don't need
Speaker 2: the RC.
Speaker 1: Yes, we know who the hell you are. That's just
Speaker 1: my personal opinion, but that's his style. He doesn't believe
Speaker 1: he's better addressed than me. I disagree, but that's a
Speaker 1: different subject for another day.
Speaker 2: In all seriousness, the point is.
Speaker 1: The brother has high integrity, high integrity, he's very principled
Speaker 1: and he ain't backing up from anybody.
Speaker 2: And so when Aaron Rodgers wants to come at.
Speaker 1: Him, you can't come at him for his credentials as
Speaker 1: a football player other than he wasn't you. You can't
Speaker 1: come at him fist integrity or professionalism as somebody in
Speaker 1: the media because cause he's pointed out the great work
Speaker 1: that he's been doing, and he's right on.
Speaker 2: Off fronts.
Speaker 1: When he talks about what he hears in those locker rooms, Well,
Speaker 1: y'all are the ones that tell the media we don't
Speaker 1: know y'all are the ones that know, Well, he's one
Speaker 1: of the y'all's, which means that people in locker rooms
Speaker 1: have told them those things that he ultimately has disseminated
Speaker 1: and conveyed about you, Aaron Rodgers, and that is inescapable
Speaker 1: and the last part about his relationships. That was not
Speaker 1: a shot at Pat McAfee, nor should it be. Plenty
Speaker 1: of shows have had and will have guests that they pay.
Speaker 2: Pat McAfee has done it. I'm sure something I'll.
Speaker 1: Do in the future for people I've paid guests before.
Speaker 1: You understand, not that I'm talking about anybody that would
Speaker 1: come on weekly or whatever. Sure I would, okay, along
Speaker 1: with many, many, many others who would do that. There
Speaker 1: are paid appearances in our business all the time.
Speaker 4: That was not a shot at Pat McAfee. It was
Speaker 4: a shot at Aaron Rodgers. It was Ryan Clark saying,
Speaker 4: you got to.
Speaker 1: Be paid to go on with your boy. Other people
Speaker 1: didn't charge me. That's not talking about Pat McAfee. That's
Speaker 1: talking about Aaron Rodgers. So I think it's something that
Speaker 1: needed to be said. In the end, it comes back
Speaker 1: to what I've said about Aaron Rodgers so many times,
Speaker 1: My man, ball and win, because the reality is you
Speaker 1: haven't won as great as you are. You ever won
Speaker 1: a super Bosin in twenty ten, you haven't been to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl since twenty ten, and now your career
Speaker 1: is going in the wrong direction based on wins and losses.
Speaker 1: They want you doll it back, roll it back to
Speaker 1: next year with you and Devontae Adams.
Speaker 2: Here all next season and beyond. Do something about it.
Speaker 1: Bro show us what you got left going after Ryan Clark.
Speaker 2: That ain't gonna do much for you. That ain't gonna
Speaker 2: do much for you.
Speaker 1: Ryan Clark and I have gone at each other in
Speaker 1: the past. You don't have a platform every day like
Speaker 1: I do. You don't want to go at Ryan Clark.
Speaker 1: That is not a winnable situation for you, Aaron Rochester.
Speaker 1: In fact, it's almost as bad of a situation as
Speaker 1: it has been you going out on the field on
Speaker 1: Sundays in the Jets uniform.
Speaker 2: You might want to think about that.
Speaker 1: Just friendly words of advice, That's all I want to
Speaker 1: say about that.