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Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 2: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 3: I did it because I was foolish.

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Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast

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Speaker 4: The John Annik and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annik and

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Speaker 4: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I fucking love him. I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 4: Let's hear that time crypt Heurier hosts John Annik and

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Speaker 4: Kenny Florida.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I don't know where I am. I don't know

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Speaker 5: where I am, but we are here. It is Monday,

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Speaker 5: February eighteenth, twenty nineteen. I only know that because I'm

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Speaker 5: staring at my computer. It is episode one hundred and

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Speaker 5: ninety one of the Anakin Florian podcast. Ken Flow is

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Speaker 5: back East. It is ten thirty am Eastern Standard time.

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Speaker 5: Hit the Red Eye from Phoenix last night. Mental fog

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Speaker 5: in full effect, but we trudge onward can flow.

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Speaker 3: What's good?

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Speaker 6: You know, if you don't sleep, it's basically like creating

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Speaker 6: a tremendous amount of brain damage when you sleep. I

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Speaker 6: just wanted to let you know that you're encountering a

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Speaker 6: tremendous amount of brain damage. I learned that on an

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Speaker 6: amazing podcast, The Joe Rogan Experience. He had a really

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Speaker 6: cool scientist on there talking about lack of sleep. So

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Speaker 6: I feel for you, man. You got to get caught

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Speaker 6: up on sleep this week. Dude, come on, I do.

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Speaker 3: Feel drunk, right.

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Speaker 5: The last few weeks of this podcast have been crazy, right,

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Speaker 5: So I drove through the night after the super Bowl

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Speaker 5: and then did the podcast on no sleep. Then last

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Speaker 5: weekend flew from Australia. Some sleep, but I'm all fucked up, right,

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Speaker 5: But TJ had in VIC this so we had to

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Speaker 5: take that show, and all due respect, you know, radio

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Speaker 5: shows no good without a good producer, So you know,

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Speaker 5: we work around TJ there, and then you know, business

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Speaker 5: calls again, hit that fucking red Eye back from Phoenix.

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Speaker 5: I was thinking I should grab some proper twelve whiskey

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Speaker 5: before the show because I feel like I'm drunk.

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Speaker 3: So you're a savage dude, I don't know what I am.

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Speaker 5: I know last week we did the first primetime episode

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Speaker 5: in the history of the Anakin Floor in podcast. This

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Speaker 5: one feels like the first legitimately drunk one. I still

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Speaker 5: got to pay off that power hour, I will tell you.

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Speaker 5: I had to pay off another bet in Melbourne a

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Speaker 5: couple weeks ago. I didn't talk about it here on

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Speaker 5: the podcast, and that was a power hour as well,

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Speaker 5: and I think I got like fifty seven shots in

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Speaker 5: before the bail, but it was good enough for the

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Speaker 5: winner on this side of the bet. So you know,

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Speaker 5: I feel ready to knock out our wager anytime we

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Speaker 5: can get in the same place. Crazy crazy weekend in Phoenix.

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Speaker 5: Arizona really loves MMA Kenny. There were UFC fans everywhere,

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Speaker 5: huge spirit during fight week. I know the live event

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Speaker 5: crowd left a little bit to be desired, and I

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Speaker 5: love in Arizona and people coming up to me all

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Speaker 5: they care about is the podcast, right, It really makes

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Speaker 5: you feel good. So that was great as far as

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Speaker 5: this fight card and this main event is concerned. So

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Speaker 5: for the UFC's three main events thus far in twenty

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Speaker 5: nineteen thirty two seconds for TJ. Dillashaw and Henry Sahudo,

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Speaker 5: zero seconds for Robert Whitaker and Kelvin Gastolim the fight

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Speaker 5: Francis and Gano and Kane velazkeez In.

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Speaker 3: Each fight is its own entity, but as.

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Speaker 5: A sports fan, I get so jacked for these UFC

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Speaker 5: main events. All three of those fights, just so goddamn excited,

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Speaker 5: And in all three of those fights we have gotten

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Speaker 5: fifty eight seconds of MMA action.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, I think as far as the Henry Sahudo

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Speaker 6: and Dilashaw fight, that is just the way.

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Speaker 3: That MMA goes right.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I can end it an instant that that's

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Speaker 3: That's why you're at the edge of your seat.

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Speaker 6: And you know, of course we've seed over the years

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of things that can go wrong.

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Speaker 6: Your immune system goes down when you're when you're making

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Speaker 6: a nice short uppercut and knocked Velaska's off balance and

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Speaker 6: and you know the result whatever, You know, I got

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Speaker 3: Who cares?

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Speaker 6: The big thing on this was we wanted to see

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Speaker 3: And that's the problem with this one, right.

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Speaker 5: Well, I felt more short changed with Dila Shasa Hudo,

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Speaker 5: to be honest with you, and I think we disagree

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Speaker 5: make for some good conversation. So you tweeted and you

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Speaker 5: just said that he knocked Kane Velaski's off balance. See,

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Speaker 5: I think it was a little more than that, right.

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Speaker 5: I believe Francis Ganu is Lebron James. He is a

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Speaker 5: freak of nature. He shakes your hand. You never forget it.

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Speaker 5: This is a once in a lifetime type of physical

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Speaker 5: specimen that I can't ever recall being around before. So

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Speaker 5: you're right, he did not separate Kane from consciousness. He

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Speaker 5: was never out, obviously right, But the nature of his

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Speaker 5: power is such that it hurt Kane resulting in the

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Speaker 5: knee to buckle. I can't sit here and say whether

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Speaker 5: or because he thought that it was the beginning of

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Speaker 5: some of the wrestling strides he's made. It's again a

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Speaker 5: I think that people are kind of taken away from

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Speaker 3: No, and it was he landed the shot.

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Speaker 6: He clearly shifted the weight of a two hundred and

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Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 6: Was it the shot that knocked him out or separated

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Speaker 6: And actually, if you look at one of the replays,

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Speaker 3: So this was before that, before the end of the fight.

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Speaker 6: So and clearly you see on the replay of the

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Speaker 6: And again that probably wouldn't have happened, or most likely

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Speaker 6: uppercut from Nganu. So you're right on that. I mean,

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Speaker 6: it's not like he kind of just slipped and fell.

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Speaker 6: It was because of the shot of Nganu. And and

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Speaker 6: Ghanu does have that freakish kind of power, but he

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Speaker 6: I wanted to see a longer fight. I wanted to

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Speaker 6: see if in Ghana was able to stop that takedown.

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Speaker 6: He did have the ability to at least get an

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Speaker 6: for a lot of people, we wanted to see Kent Ghanu,

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Speaker 6: you know, do that for two rounds, three rounds, five rounds.

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Speaker 6: And for Kane, we wanted to see, Hey, is this

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Speaker 6: Or is he washed up Kane? And we never really

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Speaker 6: I speak for myself wanting for much more.

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Speaker 5: No, I agree, and I do believe that Cain, and

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Speaker 5: he said it himself, and we sat down with him.

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Speaker 5: I had the best fifteen minutes with Canevalaskaz we've ever had.

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Speaker 5: He was verbose, he was energetic, he was excited to

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Speaker 5: This was a different Kane Valaskis than we had ever

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Speaker 5: seen before, mentally, physically, his body, he was never more

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Speaker 5: confident in his body. I mean I couldn't even get

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Speaker 5: was very beatable with the right strategy. I'm just not

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Speaker 5: sure how beatable this guy is, right, And I know

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Speaker 5: Daniel Cormier thinks that this is a winnable fight and

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Speaker 5: a good matchup for him. I can't speak to how

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Speaker 5: begins on the feet round five in a championship setting. Okay,

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Speaker 6: Well, listen, it is clear that this guy has some

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Speaker 6: god given gifts that are extremely rare, specifically in mixed

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Speaker 3: This guy is a mountain of a man.

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Speaker 6: He is built like a fighter, He has excellent speed,

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Speaker 6: amazing power, and it seems like he truly is fighting

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Speaker 6: with this renewed energy and this idea of going out

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Speaker 6: you know, we've been seeing that so far in his

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Speaker 6: last fight against and here against Kane, he is letting

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Speaker 6: that there is a tremendous amount of potential in that guy.

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Speaker 6: He just needs to continually train every single day, especially

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Speaker 6: on his grappling skills, and obviously his striking skills are

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Speaker 6: always going to be there. His power is always going

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Speaker 6: to be there. But if this guy is able to wrestle,

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Speaker 6: you're gonna be in trouble. And that's a fight, you know.

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Speaker 6: Immediately when I saw Daniel Cormier's comments that he's like,

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Speaker 6: I'm not going to fight him, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Going to beat him.

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Speaker 6: I at forty years old or as he's approaching forty now,

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Speaker 6: and DC being a smaller heavyweight, that's a fight that

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Speaker 6: really makes me nervous. I mean, anytime DC fights, it

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Speaker 6: always makes me nervous. You know, he's such a nice guy.

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Speaker 6: We forget how much of a bad as he is.

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Speaker 6: One of the greatest to ever do it, and I

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Speaker 6: imagine that if he gets in on the legs of Ngano,

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Speaker 6: I imagine that he would give in Ghano a tough time.

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Speaker 6: And Gano's fist is probably the size size of Daniel's head.

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Speaker 5: I mean, in Ghana is just such an athlete, right,

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: It is like Lebron James Man, you know, and Kane

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Speaker 5: And Gohn has been calling for this fight since he

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Speaker 5: I do think the Laskis will fight again. You know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually tore my MCL.

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Speaker 6: He was so ready to go. He's been one of

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Speaker 5: What's so strange for him is just that he put

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Speaker 5: So much to get to on this main card, and

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Speaker 5: we might have to even table the Aljamain Sterling conversation

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Speaker 5: for next week. But co main event, this was one

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Speaker 5: quick to summarize Paul Felder's twenty eighteen I don't know

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, man, it was good to see Paul get get

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Speaker 6: I thought that, you know, switching things up and going

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Speaker 6: it was pretty much the way that I saw it.

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Speaker 6: I knew it wasn't gonna be fixed by but by

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Speaker 5: And I thought the biggest factor in the fight was

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Speaker 6: Dude, you can't you can't step when you get hit

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Speaker 6: Not only do you take the brunt of that kick anyway,

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Speaker 3: So I felt every single one of those.

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Speaker 6: And Felder, you look at his legs, and I mean,

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Speaker 3: Dude. Felder is a huge lightweight, as is Vic.

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Speaker 6: By the way, those are probably the two biggest lightweights

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Speaker 6: Felder was smashing that calf in the same spot repeatedly,

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 5: So Felder's probably going to take that number ten ranking,

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Speaker 3: I know he wants the Justin Getchee fight.

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Speaker 5: I think Felder's perfect scenario would have been that he

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Speaker 5: March thirtieth in his native Philadelphia. Of course, that's a

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Speaker 5: main event between Edson Barboza and Justin Gaichie. Felder has

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Speaker 5: a lot of guys in this lightweight division. You know,

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Speaker 5: I know, as a fan, maybe I speak in absolutes

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Speaker 5: I think strike for strike, limb for limb. He's the

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying he's Edson Barboza necessarily in terms of

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Speaker 5: who now that he's aligned with Duke Rufis, he's so

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, I know.

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying that he could be champion necessarily, but

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Speaker 5: I'm very interested to see what he'll do against top

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Speaker 6: Really, I think Paul's going to be a tough out

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Speaker 3: But he is a very good striker, There's no doubt

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Speaker 6: And I think that for anybody who decides to strike

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Speaker 6: He is tough, He has a prety solid defense and

437
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 6: the only thing I would like to see him is

438
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,679
Speaker 6: just create more angles with the striking, and if he

439
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 6: does that, then I think the knockouts are really gonna come.

440
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,439
Speaker 6: Sometimes he gets caught up and going two forward and

441
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 6: back a little bit too much. But man Felder has

442
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 6: a tremendous abilities and I think can give anybody a

443
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,640
Speaker 6: really tough run in that top ten and.

444
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 5: Got hit clean a couple times by James Vick and

445
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 5: certainly he has a chin.

446
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 3: And dude trains in the Vik is awkward. Vicky's awkward

447
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 3: to go against. He is not.

448
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 6: He is tough to look good against too, And I

449
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,159
Speaker 6: thought Felder really looked solid and made it a pretty

450
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 6: solid and clean performance. I had a clean thirty twenty

451
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 6: seven for Paul Felder, no doubt.

452
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 5: And last thing I'll say, you know, trains in the

453
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,199
Speaker 5: gee regularly with Daniel Vanderlay. He's never been submitted, you know,

454
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 5: in twenty pro fights right. He fought Charles Olivera and

455
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,239
Speaker 5: was able to avoid submission that night. Olivera has been

456
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 5: on an absolute air since, so it's gonna be very

457
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 5: interesting to see if Felder can get the big fight that.

458
00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 3: He so craves.

459
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 5: Cynthia Calvio Kenny a winner by unanimous decision over Courtney Casey,

460
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,360
Speaker 5: and I think it's her call out of Tatiana Suarez

461
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,959
Speaker 5: that's probably more news. What were they given our time constraints?

462
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 5: This just speaks to who Cynthia Calvio is, right, And

463
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 5: I thought this fight against Courtney Casey was maybe closer

464
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 5: than the odds would have had it. But she immediately

465
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 5: calls out Tatiana Suarez, who's the best wrestler in the

466
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 5: division and the toughest fight for most of these women.

467
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 5: All the respect in the world for Cynthia Calvio after

468
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,199
Speaker 5: a big win for her to move to five and

469
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 5: one in the UFC.

470
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, it's amazing what Calvillo has done, and against

471
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 6: the kind of experienced competition that she's had. You know,

472
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 6: Calvio is as tough as they come. She's not afraid

473
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 6: to trade. She went against the girl in Casey who

474
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 6: was much taller, much stronger, and still got it done.

475
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 6: And you know, Calvillo has improved her striking a great deal.

476
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,719
Speaker 6: I was looking forward to seeing what would happen if

477
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 6: she was able to get the fight to the ground.

478
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 6: I thought you would have a bigger advance against Casey

479
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 6: on the ground, especially if she was able to get

480
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 6: that top position. But I mean, she's she's turning into

481
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,360
Speaker 6: a very very good fighter, and she's doing good things

482
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 6: over at Team Alpha Male, and I look forward to

483
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 6: seeing how she develops and the fact that she's had,

484
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 6: you know, all these fights against the tough competition early

485
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 6: on in her career, she is only going to get better.

486
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 5: Crazy that she wants Suarez right now, you know, I know,

487
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 5: I mean, who's calling out Suarez. It's like she's the

488
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 5: the beab of that division.

489
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 3: Yea.

490
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 6: So I was really surprised, and it just shows how

491
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 6: confident she is against Tatiana Suarez.

492
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 3: Man that that's that's pretty wild.

493
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 5: So we sat down with Crone and Gracie on Friday,

494
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 5: and immediately sixty seconds in, I was like, this guy's special.

495
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 5: Right at that point, I hadn't seen UFC destined that,

496
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 5: you know, I had seen some footage, but I had

497
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 5: never heard heard the man talk. Right, there is something

498
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 5: special about this dude. He watched into the fighter meeting.

499
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 5: He's like, John, let me see that two nine tattoo.

500
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, but hey, man, you know this

501
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 5: was a special effort I thought against a nineteen time

502
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 5: UFC veteran. I would defer to you on everything about

503
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 5: this fight and everything about Chrome Gracie moving forward, But

504
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 5: as Domina Cruz said on the broadcast, he wants, he

505
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 5: welcomes you to come into his guard right, so he

506
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 5: can move forward without fear nobody's going to.

507
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 3: Be trying to take him down. I'm excited, man, this

508
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 3: was fun.

509
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 6: Yes, exactly, And I agree with you man, I think

510
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 6: Kron does have that certain special quality about him. There

511
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 6: is an energy to a Chrone Gracie that when you

512
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 6: meet him, yeah, you know he's you're not sure what

513
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 6: he does, but you know he's damn good at it.

514
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 3: And you know, I think that comes.

515
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 6: Down from his lineage of his legendary father Hicks and Gracie.

516
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 6: Imagine having to be in those shoes in the Brazilian

517
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 6: jujitsu community and dealing with that kind of pressure, being

518
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 6: essentially Michael Jordan's son, and you decide to play basketball

519
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 6: at a high level and everyone is expecting you to

520
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 6: be mj That's the kind of pressure and those are

521
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 6: the kind of expectations that chron Gracy had to deal with,

522
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 6: and you know what, he pretty much lived.

523
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 3: Up to them. That's how good Cron Gracy is.

524
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 6: And he was a guy who really had to deal

525
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 6: with that and competed against many of the best Brazilian

526
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 6: jujitsu competitors in the world.

527
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 3: He proved himself to be that without a doubt.

528
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 6: And now trying his hand at mixed martial arts, and

529
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 6: I thought it was a pretty solid debut for him.

530
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 3: Man. I think the.

531
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 6: Biggest mistake for Casarras was throwing that long, wild hook

532
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 6: that gave Chrome Gracie the ability to get around to

533
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 6: the back immediately, and from there the fight was essentially over.

534
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 6: When we were watching here, we knew basically Chrome was

535
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,959
Speaker 6: going to get to his back and he was going

536
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 6: to finish. And that's the difference between a Brazilian jutsu

537
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 6: black belt, because Brazilian just to black belts.

538
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 3: You see him everywhere. There's a lot of them.

539
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 6: Now that's not really such a big deal, but there's

540
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 6: a difference between a Brazilian jujitsu black belt, a very

541
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 6: good Brazilian jujitsu black belt, and a world class, world

542
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 6: champion level Brazilian jujitsu black belt, and Chrome Gracie is

543
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 6: just that he made it look easy.

544
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 3: Once he gets to your back, it was over. Man.

545
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 3: There was nothing Cassara's could do. There was some high

546
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 3: level stuff.

547
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 6: Going on, beautiful control, and that's what Chrome Gracie is

548
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 6: going to bring to that division.

549
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 3: One of the best Brazilian jiu jitsu guys in the world.

550
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 6: And I would, you know, put him obviously right there

551
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 6: at the level of a Damian Maya, a Jacka Ray Sosa,

552
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 6: a Ryan Hall.

553
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about it.

554
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 5: Guy was training with Ronnie Yaya extensively when he was

555
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 5: sixteen years old. He doesn't remember his life without jiu jitsu,

556
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 5: and yep, there's been pressure applied to him in the

557
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 5: Hickson shadow, obviously his father. It's amazing how much I

558
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 5: learned about Hickson and Aliol Gracie just getting ready for

559
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 5: this show.

560
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 3: It's fascinating stuff.

561
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 5: I think what's interesting for cron is that every time

562
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 5: he sits down in an interview setting, it's all about

563
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 5: the Gracie family, and you're gonna be the first fighter

564
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 5: potentially to win a fight since Hoyst way way back

565
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 5: in the day, right because Holes and Hawser were unable

566
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 5: to win in their loan appearances. Same could be said

567
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 5: for Henzoh Right. So I think for Cron there's part

568
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 5: of it, part of him that wants to sort of

569
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 5: break out and forge his own identity, and I think

570
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 5: if anyone's capable of doing that, it really is him.

571
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 5: I mean, he certainly has a lot of respect for

572
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 5: his lineage and it's certainly a powerful influencer for him,

573
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 5: as is the death of his brother Hawson of course,

574
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 5: but man, I just got a special feeling from this guy.

575
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 5: So in terms of immediate challenges, I think the one

576
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 5: thing for Cron that I like is that I feel

577
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 5: like he's a big game player. I don't think pressure's

578
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 5: gonna bother him. He wants the big fights, and he

579
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 5: wants them ideally by March or April.

580
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 3: What would you like to see.

581
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 5: I know we talked off air you think maybe Ryan Hall,

582
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 5: which was suggested by Dan Hardy, maybe a little bit

583
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 5: too soon right now?

584
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 3: Would you like to see him fight a wrestler.

585
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 5: B JJ guy, what do you think Sean Shelby will

586
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 5: do with cron Gracy after what we saw Saturday night.

587
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 6: That's a good question, you know. I think there's a

588
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 6: lot of possibilities for cron Gracy. You know, I think

589
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 6: we saw him in there technically against another striker. I

590
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 6: would like to see him against either another like like

591
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 6: another grappler. I think that would be interesting to see

592
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 6: how he does in those five minute rounds against another grappler,

593
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 6: like a wrestler, a grinder. I think Crone is good

594
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 6: enough to be able to submit anyone in that division.

595
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 3: It's tough, right because that's only his fifth fight.

596
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 6: That's the other thing, it's only his fifth fight at

597
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 6: the end of the day, overall, his first fight in

598
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 6: the UFC.

599
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 3: It sounds like he wants to stay pretty active this year.

600
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean, I'd like to see kind of

601
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 6: maybe a wrestler striker type guy. Even Crone kind of said,

602
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 6: I wish they gave me someone tougher than Alex Casaras.

603
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 6: And because Sara's has a ton of experience in the UFC,

604
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 6: maybe not maybe not the best guy out there in

605
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 6: the division obviously, but you know, I thought that it

606
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 6: was pretty well matched for his first UFC debut, and

607
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 6: I don't know. I'm curious to see what direction the

608
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 6: UFC goes, and I do think that chron could absolutely

609
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 6: be a star in that division.

610
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna rifle down from seven down the rankings

611
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 5: at featherweight, Cub Swanson, Mersad Bechnik, Josh Emmett, Ricardo Lamas,

612
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 5: Yayi Rodriguez, the Korean Zombies, I beat Mago Metcharipop, Darren Elkins,

613
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 5: Calvin Cater. Hopefully that didn't mess with the audio, as

614
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 5: I just looked that up. But a lot of those

615
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 5: guys are matched up already, but I think they're going

616
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 5: to expedite the process with Cron Gracie. We'll see. But

617
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 5: you're right, it's fifth pro fight. But I'm all in vicente, Luke,

618
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 5: Brian Barberina. I mean, this one is just this is

619
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 5: the type of fight. When you finished calling it, and

620
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 5: you can speak to this when you have four fights thereafter,

621
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 5: part of you is like, man, right, because that takes

622
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 5: a lot out of you to call a fight like

623
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 5: that and just a great showcase. I'm so glad our

624
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 5: first man card on ESPN Kenny that we had a

625
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 5: fight like that, right, a fight of the year type,

626
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 5: just next level toughness from these two guys, and Vizente

627
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 5: Luke absolutely leaves.

628
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 3: For me a bona fide welterweight contender.

629
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 6: It was ridiculous, dude, as far as the kind of

630
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 6: toughness and power that they showed in that fight, I

631
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 6: would say that probably eighty percent of those punches were

632
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 6: knockout blows and the fact that they were able to

633
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 6: absorb that many shots. Like those many shots, it's crazy

634
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 6: that they were going upstairs downstairs leg kicks. Brian Barberina

635
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 6: it seemed like he was his head was on a

636
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 6: swivel with some of the shots he was eating from Luke,

637
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 6: and then he would just turn around and throw a

638
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,239
Speaker 6: combination of his own. These guys basically stood in the

639
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 6: center of the octagon and just traded blows. I would

640
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 6: never recommend any fighter to do that. It was essentially

641
00:30:55,320 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 6: a hockey that but I would never be to do that.

642
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 6: I would never even if I wanted to do that, John,

643
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 6: even if I was like, screw it, I'm gonna just

644
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 6: sit there and trade, but I would last maybe three seconds.

645
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 6: I'm just I would I do not have that kind

646
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 6: of ability to absorb that me. I don't think I

647
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 6: do anyway, Like those guys are just straight savages.

648
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 3: And the fact that they were able to throw.

649
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 6: That amount of strikes and eat them until there was

650
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 6: no way I thought that that fight was gonna go

651
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 6: past the first round, let alone go into the third round.

652
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 6: It was just ridiculous. Those guys are savages.

653
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Speaker 5: So and neither guy was all that hurt. I mean,

654
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Speaker 5: there were little moments there, but even when Luke got

655
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Speaker 5: knocked down, he recovered very quickly.

656
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Speaker 3: Right.

657
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Speaker 5: Yeah, When we talk about the long term effects of

658
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 5: a fight like that for those fighters, sometimes it's hard

659
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 5: to quantify because Barberina is just this goddamn it, hard

660
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 5: headed American farmer who eats it as if I'm the

661
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 5: one throwing the punch, you know what I mean, Like

662
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Speaker 5: as if it's his ten year old son throwing the punch. So,

663
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Speaker 5: I mean, I know, obviously, in terms of longevity, right

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Speaker 5: as Luke is two years, as he said, away from

665
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Speaker 5: his fighting prime, he's won eight of nine, finished almost everyone.

666
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Speaker 5: But how do you quantify what type of price there

667
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 5: is to pay when the guy didn't seem to get

668
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Speaker 5: hurt by these power shots.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, from what we've seen. From what

670
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Speaker 3: we've seen.

671
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Speaker 6: There was nothing that looked like they were hurt too badly.

672
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Speaker 3: But man, that ending sequence.

673
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Speaker 6: First of all, there's no doubt that Brian Barbarreta was

674
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Speaker 6: hurt from that. It actually kind of turned his head around.

675
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 6: He looked kind of straight down to the mat at

676
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Speaker 6: one point. And then the way that he got finished

677
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 6: was pretty brutal as well. But that shot that he

678
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 6: ran into, I don't think what is going to do

679
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 6: do him any favors. And luk A ate a lot

680
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Speaker 6: of shots as well, so from what we could tell,

681
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Speaker 6: it seemed like they're fine. But man, again, as far

682
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Speaker 6: as the brain damage and those things, we could potentially

683
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Speaker 6: not see those.

684
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Speaker 3: Things for a little while.

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Speaker 6: So I hope that they don't go right into sparring

686
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Speaker 6: for a long time. If I'm their coach, if I'm

687
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Speaker 6: their friend, if I'm their family member, I tell them

688
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 6: to stay away from the gym for a long time,

689
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Speaker 6: don't do anything. Relax, even if you know you feel fine,

690
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 6: or wherever you could feel dizzy spells later on, you

691
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 6: could actually have a concussion.

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Speaker 3: You never know. But man, that was a classic fight.

693
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Speaker 3: But my goodness.

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Speaker 6: I hope those guys are okay and don't suffer any

695
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 6: damage from that fight. But the crowd seemed like they

696
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 6: were going nuts. I couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 5: Oh crazy, crazy fight and good for those guys, And

698
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 5: you're right, I think if Luk, I know he's wanting

699
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Speaker 5: to expedite the process a little bit and try to

700
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Speaker 5: get a rank name. But I do think for both

701
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 5: of those guys some time off would serve them well

702
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 5: and certainly an easy pick for Fighter the night. Big

703
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Speaker 5: win for Andre Peeley obviously by Animus decision over Miles Jerry.

704
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Speaker 5: That's a much improved fighter there, Al Jamain Sterling. We

705
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 5: will get to next week with Ray Longo, but Al

706
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Speaker 5: Joe is absolutely abandonm weight contender.

707
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Speaker 3: I couldn't be happier for him.

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Speaker 5: I just want to get your thoughts on Manny Bermudez

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Speaker 5: real quickly before we get to the Prague selections. So

710
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Speaker 5: South Shore Sport Fighting by the way, Rockland, Massachusetts, Bill Mahoney,

711
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Speaker 5: I believe the head coach there, Yes, so Manny Bermudez

712
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 5: thirteen and oh fourteen and oh whatever, he is now

713
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 5: outstanding submission guy, BJJ application and mixed martial arts absolutely

714
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 5: love it. Right, But he weighed in four pounds over

715
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 5: the bantamweight limit, and that is a huge part of

716
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 5: the narrative of this fight. And I'm probably gonna ask

717
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Speaker 5: you another unanswerable question in terms of the advantage or

718
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 5: you know, if there's something like the extent to which

719
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Speaker 5: he suffered or didn't when he weighs in, you know,

720
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Speaker 5: an hour and fifteen minutes or so before he has

721
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Speaker 5: to write. I have a real problem with this, right

722
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Speaker 5: because we've seen instances where guys way in early and

723
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 5: they don't suffer up until eleven o'clock and they don't

724
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Speaker 5: suffer down to the weight class limit like their opponent

725
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 5: has to, and then they still compete at the weight class.

726
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 5: There's a small financial penalty, but when you're a small

727
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 5: purse fighter a couple fights into the UFC, it's not

728
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 5: a big financial penalty and you get match made moving

729
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Speaker 5: forward as if you have a bandam weight win.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 5: I'm you know, born and raised in Massachusetts, right, I

732
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 5: like I like Manny Bermudez. I think he's a special fighter,

733
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Speaker 5: but this has a huge stain for me to miss

734
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 5: that badly to weigh in early you know, I know

735
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 5: he obviously learned some hard lessons and maybe he'll make

736
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Speaker 5: a statement by weighing in on championship wait next time around,

737
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 5: but if he gets a big, big fight, now I

738
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 5: have a competitive philosophical issue with them.

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Speaker 6: And you should again, you're you're never going to see

740
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Speaker 6: me make excuses for a guy not making weight. And uh,

741
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 6: it wasn't again like you said, it wasn't just like

742
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 6: one pound, It was a few pounds. It was four

743
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Speaker 6: pounds or four pounds or three pounds yeah, four yeah,

744
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 6: so it's four pounds. So there's no excuse for that.

745
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Speaker 6: There's no good excuse for that. And the fact that

746
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Speaker 6: he's going to get a win against a guy who

747
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Speaker 6: did make weight.

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Speaker 3: Something needs to be done.

749
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Speaker 6: I think a little bit more than just taking away

750
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Speaker 6: a percentage of his purse. You know, I think this

751
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 6: is the point where the UFC needs to start to

752
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 6: ask themselves should we allow these guys to even compete

753
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 6: or if they do fight, maybe they fight, but it's always.

754
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Speaker 3: Rendered a no contest.

755
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 6: That person can never get themselves a win because again,

756
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Speaker 6: you know how it goes.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 6: You're you're a sports guy way more than I am.

759
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 6: Uh we forget about these little details. At the end

760
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 6: of the day, you're gonna see a W on his name,

761
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 6: and and the guy who fought him is gonna have

762
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 6: that L and and then that's a shame. And I

763
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 6: did not see that fight. I believe I was in

764
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 6: the air when that when that fight transpired. But it's

765
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 6: an awful situation, man. I hate seeing guys not make weight,

766
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 6: and seeing the other guy make weight and suffer through

767
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 6: that is awful. So I think the UFC should do

768
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 6: something about or the commissions should do something about it

769
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Speaker 6: where they give that person a no contest or something.

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Speaker 6: But it shouldn't be a W. And I'm not sure

771
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Speaker 6: it should be an L for the other guy.

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Speaker 3: Too, right, right, there are a lot of layers to it. Right.

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Speaker 5: You feel for Benito Lopez. I'm not sure if the

774
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 5: result would have been any different. I really think manner

775
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 5: Bermude as a submission game is gonna be very problematic

776
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 5: for a lot of people. But the issue Kenny is

777
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 5: is right and you know this as well as anybody,

778
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 5: But there are a lot of contracts to satisfy. So

779
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 5: when these fights are booked, the UFC wants these fights

780
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 5: to go on, right, to give these guys as many

781
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,719
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782
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 5: there's so many fighters on the roster. Right, So if

783
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 5: you tell many bermude Is that you're going to compete tonight,

784
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 5: but you can only get a no contest or a loss, right,

785
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 5: he's not incentivized to fight, And that I think is

786
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 5: the only hold up because you're absolutely right, at least

787
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 5: in terms of the bantamweight division, it's got to be

788
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,960
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789
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,600
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790
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,319
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00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 5: It's just a really unfortunate thing. And you know, for

792
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,520
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00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,440
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Speaker 3: But nice lead. Now for Team Annak.

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Speaker 3: Kid?

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Speaker 5: join us from today.

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Speaker 7: I'm from ok West Virginia. I'm big fan. Thanks for

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Speaker 7: having me.

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Speaker 5: On West Virginia represented today on the Ennek and Flooring podcast.

873
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Speaker 5: I love it so I hate to break the news

874
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,439
Speaker 5: you guys, there are no main card odds as of

875
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Speaker 5: this taping. So soon at MyBookie dot ag and everywhere

876
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 5: else you'll be able to bet on these fights. Maybe

877
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 5: by the end of the show we can update, but

878
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 5: we just got to pick the fights. I will adjust

879
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Speaker 5: the odds accordingly. Not ideal, but we trudge onwards. So

880
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Speaker 5: first fight at bantam wait. I like this fight, twenty

881
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 5: six year old Russian Puore. Tryon, this dude looks like

882
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 5: the man ken flow three to zero in the UFC.

883
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 5: Huge finish of a very tough Douglas Silver Deondrage back

884
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 5: in December, puts a seven fight win streak on the

885
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 5: line against the UFC tested John Dotson Wes.

886
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 3: I don't know.

887
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 5: I'd expect Yan to be a slight favorite here or

888
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 5: maybe close to a pick him. Who do you like here,

889
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 5: Pere Treon or John Dotson?

890
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 7: I had the same doing. I like John Lott. I

891
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 7: think he's an up and cover here. I don't think

892
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 7: that we've seen the best John Dodson in the last

893
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 7: couple of fights. I think that he is slowing down

894
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 7: just a little bit of well of fighting. I think

895
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 7: that's I don't think that's good news for him. He's

896
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 7: kind of a blitz fighter. He's one of those that

897
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 7: he kind of gets you to fall asleep and he

898
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 7: bluts his right forward on you. And that jam Rivera

899
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 7: fight assumed like he jin of got rolled to sleep

900
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 7: a little bit by Rivera. He just kind of backing

901
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 7: up the whole time. Definitely not his best performance. I

902
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 7: see this one going Jean's way. I think he's gonna

903
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 7: kind of do exactly what jim Rivera did, just kind

904
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 7: of slowly pick him apart. Johnson is always dangerous, He's

905
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 7: always got that left hand ready to go. But I

906
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 7: think jan is going to get gay decisions here.

907
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 5: Pio Trian the pick for wes Ken Flow fifteenth UFC

908
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 5: appearance for John Dotson, He's alternated wins and losses over

909
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 5: his last eight. Hasn't fought since a decision loss to

910
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 5: Jimmy Rivera that was back in September. I just think

911
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 5: we need to see more offense out of John Dotson

912
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 5: and maybe Pio Trian who's an animals the guy to

913
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 5: bring it out of him.

914
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 3: What do you think about this one at one hundred

915
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 3: and thirty five pounds.

916
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's hard to tell what's going on

917
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 6: with John Dotson. Is it the fact that he's slowing

918
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Speaker 6: down or is he losing motivation now that he's not

919
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 6: really fighting towards trying to become a champion in that

920
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 6: division anymore.

921
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 3: So he has been fighting a while.

922
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 6: I think maybe his motivation has gone away a little bit.

923
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 6: Maybe this guy Piotr Yan is the guy to kind

924
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 6: of bring it out of him.

925
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 3: I don't think so, though.

926
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Speaker 6: I was really impressed with Yan in his last fight

927
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Speaker 6: against Douglas Silva Denraj, who is a very tough fighter

928
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 6: in his own right, but Yan just beat him up

929
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 6: like it wasn't even a fight. He literally beat that

930
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 6: dude up, and I was so glad that they stopped

931
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 6: the fight. You don't see that very often, and I

932
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 6: was glad that they stopped it. It was a brutal beating.

933
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna go with Yan. I think Jan gets

934
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 6: it done. You know, I don't know if he can

935
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 6: finish Dotson Dotson tends to not engage as.

936
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Speaker 5: Much, but I think Jan does get it done, and

937
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Speaker 5: maybe he'll be closer to minus one eighty or so.

938
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Speaker 5: It's always fun to try to predict what the line

939
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 5: are gonna be, and maybe we'll be way off, but

940
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Speaker 5: we will proceed as if Piotrian will be the betting

941
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 5: favorite there. All right, light heavyweight, also making his fifteenth.

942
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 5: You have the appearance John Volante coming off a win.

943
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 5: He draws me, kyl oleja Wes. What does your research

944
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 5: tell you here about this one at two o five?

945
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 7: All so, I had a decent digging on this here.

946
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 7: I remember this fight against Rountree. He shared a lot

947
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 7: of heart in that one got a little rock and

948
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 7: that cap early on. The fought through. It ended up

949
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 7: the other pretty dominant victory. That one was overturned with

950
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Speaker 7: the Van substance test the positive test.

951
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 3: There.

952
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 7: He's coming off the big layoffs. I think that Belonte's pressure,

953
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 7: his conseling to face, which thinks let him open to

954
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 7: being knocked out. Obviously that a couple of times. But

955
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 7: I think his pressure I'm gonna give uh. It's all

956
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,439
Speaker 7: a little bit of issue. I say, Belancee is gonna

957
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 7: end up goodness on it later.

958
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 3: On the fight, all right, John Belante.

959
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 5: There so Kenny, four straight split decisions for Volante, and

960
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 5: you know he's rolling his eyes after all these fights,

961
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 5: he's won two of them, including the last one. Uh

962
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 5: and you heard Wes mentioned for olex age A the

963
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 5: win by decision over Khalil Rowntree Junior back in twenty

964
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 5: seventeen overturned to a no contest popped for clonmaphine.

965
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 3: You know what, I could use some clonaphine right now.

966
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 5: Actually, give me a winner here, John Volonte, mihal Olek, Seijuk.

967
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 3: Olex say Chuk, Wow, all right, well.

968
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 5: I'm gonna pull up the adilile while we are talking and.

969
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 3: See Sechuk listen, man. I think Volante.

970
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 6: Has a tendency obviously, of fighting in these kind of

971
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 6: fights where they're always close, and he always puts himself

972
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 6: on the precipice of getting knocked out in a lot

973
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Speaker 6: of these fights. Oh look, say choke. I think is

974
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 6: a very good striker when he starts to trade. I

975
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 6: think that he probably doesn't have the same kind of

976
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 6: power as a Volante, especially early on, but I think

977
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 6: he's going to be a little bit faster. I think

978
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 6: he throws straight or punches. I think he comes in

979
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 6: pretty well conditioned, and I think Alex Say Chuck will

980
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,240
Speaker 6: get the win against Valante by decision.

981
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 5: All right, comine event guys at heavyweight. Stephan Struve actually

982
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 5: once told me he wanted to be the first UFC

983
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 5: fighter to fifty UFC appearances, and at that point in

984
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 5: time as a heavyweight, he looked, you know, maybe like

985
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 5: he could get to thirty five or so. But of

986
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 5: course he's had some health issues, some of them scary ones.

987
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 5: Makes his twenty second UFC start here, Wes. He's lost

988
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 5: the last three of them, taken on Marcos Jjerio paz

989
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 5: Ou Delima. He returned to heavyweight last year, won a

990
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 5: unanimous decision over Adam Vitchorik.

991
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 3: Who do you like here? In the komine event, West.

992
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 7: Gets a tough one for me. I mean, you look

993
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 7: at Stephan's three n roches at one point look like

994
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 7: the world beater couldn't be tall. But boys, my mind,

995
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 7: it seems like he still struggles to use that range.

996
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 7: Just the few jabs here and there. I keep people

997
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 7: at difference, But has you got that down yet? I

998
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 7: he he has a clear advantage of this fight. It

999
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 7: is to the ground. Stepan truths submissions are next level.

1000
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 7: I think that's a clear positive. They trek for him,

1001
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 7: Kim who did it there? That's gonna be the issue.

1002
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 7: His chanting a little questionable in his last couple of fights.

1003
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 7: But I see despite going to the ground, and I

1004
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 7: see Stephanie Street putting on a check and get the finished.

1005
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 5: Wes has done his homework. I like that West Virginia

1006
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 5: drawl as well. You beat ken Flow, you're getting a

1007
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 5: return invite. I mean that's a slammed down, all right,

1008
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 5: Ken Flow? True or false? Marcos hi Jerio pays out

1009
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 5: Delima fought at middleweight in Peru into thirteen dang.

1010
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 6: I mean that's kind of a random fact. I would say,

1011
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 6: why true?

1012
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 3: Right? And why would you make that up? Right?

1013
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1014
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 3: All the Peruvian that that happened? If it didn't.

1015
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 6: Except did he? He fought is a middleway. He's a

1016
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 6: big dude.

1017
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 5: He very much is a big dude. He loves missing

1018
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 5: two oh five. So now he's a heavyweight. No denying

1019
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 5: the pop. You know, we'll see if stephan Struve can

1020
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 5: you know use that jab. Joe Silva is gonna be

1021
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 5: sitting somewhere in West Virginia just pulling his hair out

1022
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 5: when when Struve's not using that length, what do you

1023
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 5: think here about peiz ou uh trying to go to

1024
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 5: two and oh since moving back up to heavyweight.

1025
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 6: Listen, I'll be pulling out my hair with him. You know,

1026
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 6: Stephan has been one of the more frustrating guys to

1027
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 6: watch throughout his career because he got into the UFC

1028
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 6: so early. He had all this, you know, all these

1029
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 6: gifts as far as his size, and but I don't

1030
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 6: know if he really just put in the work. And

1031
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 6: that's what that's what I struggle with anytime he fights.

1032
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 6: I mean, it's like throwing the dice. And Marcus Rogiera

1033
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 6: Delima is another guy that kind of when he fights,

1034
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 6: he kind of throws caution to the wind, and I

1035
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 6: don't think he always has the smartest approach when he

1036
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 6: fights as well.

1037
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 3: This is a tough one for me. I'll guess I'm

1038
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 3: gonna go with Stefan Struve.

1039
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 6: I imagine that this fight will probably go to the

1040
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 6: to the mat at some point, I think, so I'll

1041
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 6: go with Strove.

1042
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 5: And I will tell you, guys, I always tweet out

1043
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 5: the odds for every UFC main card fight, so you

1044
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 5: both reserve the right to change your predictions based upon

1045
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 5: the odds. If you see something really pronounced and it

1046
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 5: makes sense under our scoring system, by all means, text

1047
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 5: me and let me know. All right, main event, This

1048
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 5: is a bigger fight than people realize. If John Jones

1049
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 5: beats Anthony Smith, the winner of this fight between Yambohovich

1050
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 5: and Tiago Santos is gonna get a light heavyweight championship opportunity.

1051
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 5: And the way John Jones is treating his twenty nineteen

1052
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 5: these guys might fight for the light heavyweight title before July.

1053
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 5: So huge steam on this main event in Prague, West.

1054
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 5: We will need the round and the method of victory

1055
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 5: Belahovich or Santos for you.

1056
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 7: I am really excited for this fight. I think Jan

1057
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 7: Behovich is underappreciated in that light heavyweight division. He has

1058
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 7: been on quite a tear four fight win streak. He's

1059
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 7: looked good in all of them. His last fight against Akita,

1060
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 7: he whether rules dooring early, ended up getting that finish.

1061
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 7: I think that his best path to victory would definitely

1062
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 7: be taking the fight to the ground, looking first a

1063
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 7: mission missions to high quality Taga Santaos. He is one

1064
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 7: of the most dangerous strikers in the whole UFC, in

1065
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 7: my opinion, a scary guy to stand in front of.

1066
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 7: I think Santo's needs to say taking range. If he

1067
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 7: can do that, I think he has potential to really

1068
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 7: pick uh Hovich apart. I think that Behovich or Santees

1069
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 7: need to come in with that same game playing he

1070
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 7: came in with against Jimmy Vndila, where there were new

1071
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 7: holds bogs. He came out young's blazed and loved to go,

1072
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 7: getting his face early, put you back against the cage

1073
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 7: and just start swinging. I think that's Santes's best past

1074
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 7: the victory here Wehovich. He's got power, but I wouldn't

1075
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 7: say he has did one touch, one punch knockout power

1076
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 7: that Manola does and Santees just threw causing her win

1077
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 7: against him. I see him doing the same thing against Lahovich,

1078
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 7: and I thought he's going to get a second round.

1079
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 5: He ko ken Fula loves that round too, so he

1080
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 5: might be upset about that. All right, Westurs, thank you

1081
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 5: for listening, man, thank you for playing. And as I said, man,

1082
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 5: you beat ken Flow, you're right back in the Q

1083
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 5: later in twenty nineteen. Thanks for stepping up. Have a

1084
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 5: good day at work, man, and we'll talk to you soon.

1085
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 7: I really appreciate days a little sister's birthday, so I

1086
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 7: just want to say happy birthday, Maddie. Thanks for having

1087
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 7: me on. I hope they will be on against it.

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00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 5: Thank you, Wes, Happy birthday, Maddie. All right, good stuff

1089
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 5: there from the great state of West Virginia. So kevi fall,

1090
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 5: I'm excited about this main event. I think I'm excited

1091
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 5: to just shut my fat mouth and watch it for

1092
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 5: a change. Right, it's been a busy schedule, obviously, we're

1093
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 5: in a stretch of nine consecutive weekends with live UFC action.

1094
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 5: But Tiago Santos man right. Go to his Wikipedia page,

1095
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,919
Speaker 5: go to sr dog Right. He's won seven of eight,

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00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 5: six of those by knockout or TKO. Right, we sit

1097
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 5: here feb eighteen, twenty nineteen. February third, twenty eighteen.

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00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 3: Right.

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00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 5: A year and a few days ago, he knocked out

1100
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 5: Anthony Smith, who's fighting for the championship in a couple

1101
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 5: of weeks. Unanimous decision went over Kevin Holland. That's a

1102
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 5: quality win, finished, Eric Anders, quality win. Destroyed Jimmy Manuwa

1103
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 5: recently dudes on an absolute taire Loohovich has won four

1104
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 5: in a row. I think Santos will probably be the favorite,

1105
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:00,720
Speaker 5: but Bohovich is no picnic.

1106
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 3: Obviously.

1107
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 5: This is a great main event, and I want to

1108
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 5: know on which side of it you fall.

1109
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 6: Oh Man, Yeah, So Bohovich I feel like is the

1110
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 6: more well rounded fighter as far as consistency, being a

1111
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 6: little bit more conservative, maybe not conservative, but safer.

1112
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 3: You know, I would typically lean towards someone like that.

1113
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 6: I think he has the advantage on the ground as well,

1114
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,479
Speaker 6: and I think that the fact that he hasn't been

1115
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 6: in a lot of these crazy fights like Thiago Santos

1116
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 6: has had can give him the advantage as well.

1117
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 3: So this is a tough one for me.

1118
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 6: Thiago Santos is a guy who basically ignores all the

1119
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 6: small weapons. He says like, you know what, I'm just

1120
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 6: gonna blow out the cannon every single time. I want

1121
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 6: to destroy your face as much as possible.

1122
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 3: And I love it.

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00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 6: But here's the thing, how how how long can he

1124
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 6: keep this kind of peace for and how is his

1125
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 6: body going from fight to fight in training camp to

1126
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 6: training camp. He has kept very busy. I hope that

1127
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 6: he's fine, and if he is, I think he gets

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00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 6: the win here. I don't know if Thiago Sidos is

1129
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 6: the best striker in the UFC or one of the

1130
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 6: better strikers in news, but he's probably one of the

1131
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 6: most dangerous strikers in the UFC, and I think there's

1132
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 6: a difference. And I think if he catches Bohovich, I

1133
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 6: think he's in trouble Bohovich, and I agree with Wes

1134
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 6: that Bohovich doesn't have the same kind of striking ability.

1135
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 3: Does have a good chin, though.

1136
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 6: And you know, if they get caught trading, Santos is

1137
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 6: probably gonna get the win.

1138
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 3: So I'll go with Santos.

1139
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 6: I think that he has this energy and ability to

1140
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 6: really draw guys into his type of fight, and I

1141
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 6: gotta go with Santos.

1142
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 3: I think the train's gonna keep running here.

1143
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 5: All right, give me a round and a method. You

1144
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 5: going knockout or TKOI.

1145
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 3: So let's go knockout round two. That's exactly what West

1146
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 3: with the round?

1147
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 6: Okay, Well, let's do right, Okay, let's do round one now, yeah,

1148
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 6: make it interesting.

1149
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 3: So the busy schedule, righte.

1150
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:11,720
Speaker 5: So five fights in twenty eight eighteen for Maheta February, April, August,

1151
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 5: September and then December and Toronto against Jimmy Manuwa.

1152
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 3: So you're right about the busy schedule for sure.

1153
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 5: Obviously he's at two to zho five now, right, so

1154
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 5: he's not cutting the weight anymore. And what's crazy about

1155
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 5: his twenty eighteen right those five fights Kenny and then

1156
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 5: a weight cut in July to back up for Atisania Tavares.

1157
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 3: Do you remember that, right?

1158
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 5: Yes, five fights, but then a sixth essentially just for

1159
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 5: show money he cut as a backup. So, uh, this

1160
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 5: is a motivated man. And yeah, man, he you know

1161
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 5: you talk about jiu jitsu application in MMA, the striking

1162
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 5: application for Thiago Santos is going quite well and big

1163
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 5: spot for him obviously against Yan Bohova. All right, that's

1164
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 5: it for the main event challenge. So Ken Flow is

1165
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 5: a renaissance man of sorts. He's got a lot of

1166
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 5: irons in the fire. May Rocky be Jj is a

1167
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 5: fucking monster, by the way, thank you. I mean I

1168
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 5: would say standing room only, like need not apply, but

1169
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 5: you know, we want you know, I don't want to

1170
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 5: hurt the business. But man, I mean, it's just a

1171
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 5: beautiful facility. It actually makes me want to do Brazilian

1172
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 5: jiu jitsu.

1173
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 3: See that that's the goal. Thank you man.

1174
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 6: And we're gonna get you over there next time you're

1175
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 6: in LA We're going to put you in a gee

1176
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 6: over there and run you through a class.

1177
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 5: Pohopa uh Marcos Deamata. He was in Phoenix. Is that

1178
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 5: where I was about six hours ago?

1179
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 3: Phi? Yeah, yeah, right there. Yeah.

1180
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 5: Well so he was in Phoenix, the corner Henon Burrow

1181
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 5: and he's like, hey, you got you got the mats

1182
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 5: in the garage.

1183
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 3: Yet It's like, no, bro, I don't have the mats

1184
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 3: and the.

1185
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 6: I keep cars in the garage. Okay, I'm not like

1186
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 6: that sneaking jiu jitsu guys.

1187
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got a fucking treadmill in the garage. So anyway,

1188
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 5: So Ken Flow, a lot of different things going on,

1189
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 5: h entrepreneur in spirit and in action. So you got

1190
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 5: a new app called Closer Sports, and I think the

1191
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 5: anti comploring podcast listeners would would really like to hear

1192
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 5: about it right now.

1193
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:05,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, thank you man.

1194
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 6: You know last week actually we launched a new live

1195
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 6: streaming show on Closer Sports and basically you can live

1196
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 6: chat with me and and hopefully hoping to get a

1197
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 6: ton of the MMA analysts and and fighters and coaches

1198
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 6: to come over. I know Michael Bisby's going to be

1199
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 6: on there, Daniel Cormier and Tylan Woodley and all those

1200
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 6: guys hope to be on there soon.

1201
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 3: And we've been testing it out and it's pretty slick.

1202
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 6: You could chat just like you can on Instagram Live,

1203
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 6: and you can also suggest topics.

1204
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 3: To discuss and vote on.

1205
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 6: And for those of you guys who have iPhones, the

1206
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 6: app is in the app store right now and you

1207
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 6: can go to Closersports dot com or go straight to

1208
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 6: the app store and search for Closer Sports.

1209
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 3: And for those on Android, the app should hit this week.

1210
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 6: I can keep you guys posted on that, and to

1211
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 6: kick things off, we'll be offering a special price of

1212
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 6: ninety nine cents per month and so less than a dollar.

1213
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 6: You could follow you know, your favorite fighters and stuff

1214
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 6: like that. And I'll actually be streaming another show this

1215
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 6: week and I kind of, you know, basically answer questions

1216
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 6: that that the fans have and and anything you want

1217
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 6: to talk about we can break down. I'm also hoping

1218
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 6: to do some some MMA breakdowns on there at Moroki

1219
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 6: and do some jiu jitsu breakdowns and techniques as well,

1220
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 6: which is always fun to do, and you know, encourage

1221
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 6: everyone to check it out. And also we populate all

1222
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 6: the news articles to just that one app, so everything

1223
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 6: related to mixed martial arts. You can see all of

1224
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 6: your articles, all the latest articles right.

1225
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 3: There to that app.

1226
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 6: So it's kind of like a becoming a mixed martial

1227
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 6: arts hub. And yeah, I hope, hope, hope the fans

1228
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 6: love it, and we'd love to hear your feedback as

1229
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 6: well and how we can make it better.

1230
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 5: So if you're on the Gray Mats at May Rocky

1231
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 5: BJJ and you're showing people a Kimorris sweep, that content

1232
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 5: is exclusive to Closer Sports right exactly.

1233
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 6: And then even you guys, let's say, as I'm doing it,

1234
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 6: you could ask me a detail or a question, say, hey,

1235
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 6: how do you like to do this?

1236
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 3: Or what what's the grip like? And you know, what

1237
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 3: do you do if they do this?

1238
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 6: And we can go through all the different scenarios of

1239
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 6: the breakdowns and and and.

1240
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 3: Have some fun that way, man.

1241
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 6: So it's it's a cool way to interact and basically

1242
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 6: you know, it's it's kind of Instagram live on steroids,

1243
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 6: if you will.

1244
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 3: I like that, man, Yeah, I like that.

1245
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not gonna watch the video of you

1246
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 5: doing a Kimora sweet, but I know a lot of

1247
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 5: people out there.

1248
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 3: You gotta learn, John dam gonna watch that shit.

1249
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 5: Hey yeah, No, I mean I I hey, I know

1250
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 5: what that is, right, I mean I trained to do

1251
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 5: that six or seven times.

1252
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 6: Uh. I just want to see. I just want to

1253
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 6: see in those white pajamas for Pete's sake.

1254
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,439
Speaker 5: Come on, Oh, man, I think maybe, uh the gee

1255
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 5: wasn't necessarily my problem, you know, I just think, uh,

1256
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 5: I'm just not tough enough physically, mentally or otherwise.

1257
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 6: You have a ridiculous schedule, dude. You got three kids

1258
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 6: for Petez oh, I mean, oh yeah, and you work too.

1259
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. I do lead the league and excuses, right.

1260
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 5: Best thing about having kids you got an excuse any

1261
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 5: time you don't want to do anything.

1262
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 3: Probably I got fucking kids, three three of them.

1263
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, but like you tell me, you haven't in the

1264
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 5: first year of True's life, been able to use that

1265
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 5: as an excuse for something you didn't want to do

1266
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 5: at one point in time. I mean, if that's not

1267
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 5: the truth, you know, so it's great though it is

1268
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 5: well you don't want to do something socially or you

1269
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 5: can't pick up the phone, dude, I got it's plural.

1270
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 5: All right, We got to get out of here. Thanks

1271
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 5: for putting up with me today. It's been a crazy

1272
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 5: stretch for the UFC and continues of course this weekend

1273
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 5: in Prague, Czech Republic. Prelims are on ESPN two Main

1274
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 5: Card on ESPN plus The Flow and I will be

1275
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 5: back in less than a week to recap that with you.

1276
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 5: And I don't even have to look at the UFC calendar,

1277
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 5: but I'm sure there's a show the next weekend.

1278
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 3: There is.

1279
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 5: It is UFC two thirty five, and we'll get you

1280
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 5: ready for that monster Ken Flow. Enjoyed the rest of

1281
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 5: your time on the East Coast.

1282
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 3: Man, welcome back, thanks my dude.

1283
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm here in Virginia training with the Wizard Ryan Hall,

1284
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 6: and yeah, I'm looking forward to having some fun out

1285
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 6: here doing some seminars and yeah.

1286
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 5: Ire with that for the Flow and our fine producer

1287
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 5: TJ says John Ana, staying so long for now until

1288
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 5: next week. Enjoy the fights, don't text and drive Yo

1289
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 5: fucking Later.

1290
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,800
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1291
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