1 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: Hey there, everybody. Welcome back to the Betting Pros NFL Podcast, 2 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: brought to you by Bett MGM. I'm your host, Dan Harris. 3 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Dan Harris eighty. 4 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: It was a wild divisional round weekend and we have 5 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: a ton to talk about. With me to break things 6 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: down this week is Ian McMillan, a writer over at 7 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: oddshark dot com. You can find them on Twitter at 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: Ian macOS Ian. Thanks for coming back on how you doing. 9 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 2: I'm doing fantastic. It was an absolute whirlwind of a 10 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 2: weekend of games, some wild games. So yeah, let's get 11 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 2: into it. 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: You knew one of the big favorites was gonna lose, right, 13 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: I mean, the books aren't going to take a bath 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: on all these moneyline parlays. You knew that somewhere one 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: of these teams, either the Chiefs or the Ravens, probably 16 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: something was gonna go crazy. I mean I didn't expect it, 17 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: but I mean this is the way it works, right, 18 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: This is how gambling works. The unexpected happens, and somehow, 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure the books made a total killing on that game. 20 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. And I mean like something I was looking 21 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 2: at all week was I was tempted. I looked at 22 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 2: it almost every day. I was tempted just to take 23 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: a three team money line parlay of the forty nine Ers, Ravens, 24 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: and Chiefs. But something kept telling me, now, one of 25 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: those teams are gonna lose, and sure enough they did. 26 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: So I'm glad I held off on that. Now. 27 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: You've been on quite a run actually lately. I mean 28 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: I follow you on Twitter. You've been doing very well 29 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: with your picks to that hold for the divisional round 30 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Or did you take a bath like 31 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: a lot of betters. 32 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I've Yeah, I've done pretty well this year. 33 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: That held in the divisional round. It went three to 34 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: one and one in the divisional round that I lost 35 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: in the last game the my Packers Seahawks pick so 36 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: six one and one total in the NFL playoffs so far. 37 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: So I'm doing well. 38 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: All right, let's keep it going then into next week. 39 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: So we are doing things a little bit differently this week. 40 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: We usually record and publish on Monday night, but we 41 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: figured why wait, football's fresh on everyone's mind, let's just 42 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: jump into it. So we are recording this on Sunday night, 43 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: like right after the Seahawks Packers game ended. Because there 44 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: are only two games next week, we're going to change 45 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: it up a little bit for this early show. Were 46 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: to break down each of the divisional weekends games first 47 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: before looking ahead to next week. And if you are 48 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: at all familiar with my work, you know that this 49 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: is my happy place because I host the Sunday night 50 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: recap show for the Fantasy Pros Football podcast. So I 51 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: am all about breaking things down with zero time to 52 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: think about them. So let's just jump in right here 53 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: with the forty nine Ers twenty seven Vikings ten. This 54 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: was a seven point spread and it wasn't something I 55 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: personally really wanted to get involved with at that number, 56 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: the key number. It honestly felt like a little bit 57 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: of value on the Vikes to me, but nothing I 58 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: really wanted to trust. But as I mentioned on Thursday, 59 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: I felt extremely confident that the forty nine Ers were 60 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: gonna win this one. I talked about on Thursday show 61 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: Kwan Alexander d Ford coming back with Tart. I mean, 62 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: the key defenders on defense returning. I thought they'd be 63 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: able to get pressure on Cousins without blitzing, which they 64 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: did six sacks, the passing offense for the Vikings cannot 65 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: get anything going. The defense is completely The defense completely 66 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: shuts down Dalvin Cook just nine rushes for eighteen yards. 67 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: The offense. Meanwhile, after the Garoppolo interception, they got conservative 68 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: a bit. Garoppolo attempts only nineteen passes there was for 69 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty one yards and a touchdown with 70 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: the one pick. The running backs tally forty two carries, 71 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: twenty two for Tevin Coleman of course, for one hundred 72 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: and five yards and two scores, where he mostered twelve 73 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: for fifty eight Mattbrita eight for seventeen. He does lose 74 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: a fumble at the end. I believe Mostart hurt his 75 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: calf at some point in the second half. Doesn't sound 76 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: too severe, and there's rumors that Coleman banged up his elbow, 77 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: So it doesn't sound like either one's availability for next 78 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: week's game against the Packers is in doubt. But we'll 79 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: break down that specific matchup with the Packers in a bit. 80 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: But I mean, after seeing this game, you have to 81 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,839 Speaker 1: be pretty impressed with the forty nine ers, right, Oh. 82 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean they look like a complete team offense, defense. 83 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I thought the forty nine Ers in this game. 84 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: I thought this was was this was the pick I 85 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: was the most confident in this weekend. I think there 86 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: was a lot of recency bias from the Vikings beating 87 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: the Saints last weekend, but Kirk Cousins on the road 88 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: West Coast. This time. They were playing on a grass field. 89 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: It wasn't a dome like they were playing against the Saints, 90 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: So I think it was a little bit of recency 91 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: bias went into that line. So I like the forty 92 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: nine Ers. That's why I took them the minus seven. 93 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: I wasn't too afraid of that big spread. The big 94 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: thing is the forty nine Ers defense, and in throughout 95 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: the whole season they've been like a top two, top 96 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 2: three defensive unit the entire season, and not too many 97 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: people are talking about that, especially the pass defense as well. 98 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 2: Outside of that long pass, I believe that was to 99 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 2: Digs right early in the game to make it seven 100 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: to seven. Other than that long pass, they completely contained 101 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: the passing game with at least one interception. I know 102 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 2: Richard Sherman got an interception, was one interception or two? 103 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,799 Speaker 2: Such a whirlwind the games because that was the first 104 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: one but at least one interception there. I mean that 105 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: forty nine ers pass defenses might be the best pass 106 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: defense in the league right now, definitely the best pass 107 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 2: defense left over to the teams that are left. So 108 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: forty nine Ers they are looking good. Yeah. 109 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: I mean, for me again, part of the reason why 110 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: I didn't feel comfortable at the seven is just, I mean, 111 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: as good as the forty nine ers are, they just 112 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: they've played a ton of close games, right, I mean 113 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: basically the last five or six weeks, they're within one 114 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: score when they were winning. So they just didn't strike 115 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: me as the type of team that's going to be 116 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: able to necessarily blow out the Vikings, who I kind 117 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: of feel like we're a little underrated, you know. I 118 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: get that everybody was jumping on them because of the 119 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: fact that they went into New Orleans and beat the Saints, 120 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: but you know, part of the thing with them is 121 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: they were dealing without a healthy Adam Feelin for a 122 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: long time, without a healthy Dalvin Cook. So with both 123 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: of those guys back, and of course you have this 124 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: weird injury where theelan apparently gets spiked, you know, during 125 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: practice and kind of almost messes up his Achilles or 126 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: something like that. So there were all these weird things 127 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: that went into it, but you made the key point, 128 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: which is the defense. It was one interception, by the way, 129 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: I just confirmed that. But it's Kwan Alexander coming back, 130 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: which I did not expect to necessarily see him at 131 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: all for the remainder of the season. D Ford, who 132 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 1: didn't play a full complement of snaps, but he's able 133 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: to get pressure so easily when you combine him with 134 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,119 Speaker 1: Bosa in particular, you know, in Armstead and then Tart 135 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: out there just kind of helps the entire defense. And 136 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: again it's got an elite pass defense coming in, of course, 137 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: but Tart coming back really also kind of made everything 138 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: just whole. And you see, especially playing at home. We'll 139 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: get into that game against the Packers, but it's right now, 140 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: they just look really scary. Does it worry you at all? 141 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: I mean, look, they had the game. It wasn't though, 142 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: like they were way ahead the entire time. I mean 143 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,559 Speaker 1: they wound up winning twenty seven to ten. But again 144 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: after Garoppolo threw that pick, which was you know, not 145 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: a great pick, I mean he just didn't he just 146 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: didn't view the defender coming in they went really really 147 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: conservative on offense, and they just ran the ball. You know, 148 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: they obviously had that driver. They ran it eight times 149 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: straight to get in. Does it worry you at all 150 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: coming in as to whether you know Garoppolo is up 151 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: for the task. You know, he's got at least one 152 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: more game, possibly too if he makes to the Super Bowl. 153 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: Considering I mean he attempted only nineteen passes one hundred 154 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: and thirty one yards. I don't know if that's necessarily 155 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: going to be able to get it done, or do 156 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: you just think that they said, you know, we've got 157 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: this game where just gonna rely on our run game 158 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: because we think our defense can hold the four. 159 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 2: I mean, for most cases, if you can just run 160 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 2: the ball, and if you're as successful out of it 161 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: as the forty nine ers are, why even why do 162 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: you need to pass the ball? So, I mean, running 163 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: the ball is a little bit less risky Grapplo. I mean, 164 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: I see where you're coming from, because I'm kind of 165 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: slightly questioned the ball season, but he's played very solid 166 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: throughout the entire season. He didn't he hasn't really had 167 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: any games where like, oh geez, that was a stinker, 168 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: and I think a huge advantage the forty nine ers 169 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: have and I think this was actually showed pretty clearly 170 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: in this game against the Vikings as the coaching advantage. 171 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: I think Kyle Shanahan is a fantastic coach. I love 172 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: how much he uses motion on offense. It's something like 173 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: seventy eight percent of his plays they do a motion 174 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: pre snap, which is really interesting when you watch that. 175 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: And of course, me being a former Falcons fan, I 176 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: try a little bit every time I see Kyle Shanahan 177 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: having success him in tivin Coleman because of course he 178 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 2: was the Falcons offensive coordinator when they went to the 179 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: Super Bowl, they let him go. So I'm a big KYLEE. 180 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: Shanahan fan. I think he is one of the best 181 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: coaches in the NFL right now, and I think that 182 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: showed a lot in that Vikings game. And we're gonna 183 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: see I mean, we're gonna talk about the game against 184 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: the Packers here shortly, but I think we're gonna we 185 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: might see that a battle a couple of New Wish 186 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: head coaches there next weekend. And I think Kyle Shanahan's 187 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: gonna keep shining. 188 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he is too. And speaking of winning 189 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: games when your quarterback doesn't have to do much. Let's 190 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: move on to the Titans twenty eight Ravens twelve. As 191 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: we said, you know, this was the one game. I 192 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: gotta imagine that whatever else happened this weekend for the books, 193 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: the fact that this blew up all the money line 194 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: parlays just completely made their weekend. The Titans, they controlled 195 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: this game pretty much the entire way through. Ryan Tannehill 196 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: does almost nothing again, seven completions, eighty eight yards. He 197 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 1: does throw the two touchdowns, it's all Derreck Henry again 198 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: thirty carries one hundred and ninety five yards, despite the 199 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: fact that I mean he was you watch that game. 200 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: He's facing eight man fronts constantly in that game, and 201 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,599 Speaker 1: he's just plowing right through him. He also throws for 202 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: a touchdown crying out loud. I mean, I I think 203 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: that really leads just to the one big question that 204 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: most people have coming out of that game. How much 205 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: would someone have to offer you to attempt to tackle 206 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: Derek Henry coming at you with a bullhead of steam? 207 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: And what's the number. 208 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: I'd do for free? Just see if I could do it. 209 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 2: I used to play football back in the day. I 210 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: played a little bit of college football up here in 211 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: Canada as well. I was a running back, so I 212 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: was the one getting hit like Derek Henry's. I mean, 213 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: he's a beast, no doubt about it. I'd like to 214 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: see if I could die. I mean, I'm sure I couldn't, 215 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: but it'd be fun. I wouldn't mind being run over. 216 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 2: I've been run over a couple of times in my career. 217 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, right, I just want to know that that's 218 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: a terrible answer. The correct answer is sixteen thousand, four 219 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty dollars. All right. But meanwhile, the Ravens 220 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: in this game, they're just off. They dropped a ton 221 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,359 Speaker 1: of passes, Lamar Jackson, turned the ball over three times. 222 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: Mark Ing was banged up at first. Let me just ask, 223 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: is this a game you feel like the Titans, you know, 224 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: really won and they took it, or is this a 225 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: game that the Ravens just kind of gave it to them? 226 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: Oh? I think the Titans won. I think they took it. 227 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: I think I think they they did what they had 228 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: to do. And just to stay on the topic of 229 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: Derrick Henry there and what I find most impressive about 230 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: Derek Henry and it showed quite a bit in this game, 231 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: and I think they briefly mentioned it during the broadcast 232 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 2: as well. It's not necessarily the big runs that he 233 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: keeps busting off. It's when guys get in the backfield 234 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: and then he still ends up getting like a four 235 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 2: or five yard game. It's insane. It's like he almost 236 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: doesn't even need an offensive line. He's gonna get four 237 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: yards every single time that he touches the ball. It's 238 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 2: absolutely insane. Titans did exactly what they had to do 239 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: with their game plan was fantastic. I was impressed with 240 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 2: what Mike Frabele brought to the table that game. I 241 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: love how he's doing like workouts with some of the 242 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 2: other guys on the team right before kickoff. I think 243 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: that's hilarious. He's passionate, and I think the whole team 244 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: after that Patriots whin. They came into this game with 245 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: a lot of confidence and that's just gonna keep rolling. 246 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: I like the Titans right now. I think they're kind 247 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 2: of one of those surprise teams, like we kind of 248 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 2: saw the Giants there a handful of years ago, like 249 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 2: a nine and seven team going to the playoffs. They're 250 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 2: just hitting their stride at the perfect time, and I'm 251 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 2: interested see what they're gonna do next week. But yeah, 252 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: the Titans won that game. The other thing, I'm kind 253 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: of Baltimore they were rusty. I think that was very 254 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: clear that they're rusty. I don't know if I agree 255 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 2: with their decision of sitting all their important starters in 256 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: week seventeen when they had the bye week the next week. 257 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 2: I mean that's two full weeks they completely took off. 258 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: I think that kind of showed this weekend. 259 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, although to be fair, again, you know, the Chiefs 260 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: came out completely flat and they played everybody right in 261 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: Week seventeen, so you never really know what it was. 262 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: And again, you know with the Ravens, the only thing 263 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: I'll say is, as much as you know the Titans, 264 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: really they were the better team on that day. In 265 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: my opinion, I agree with you there. You know, the 266 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: Ravens never get stopped on fourth down, and you know 267 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: they went forward a couple of times and they didn't 268 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: get it. They make it both those times, the game 269 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: might be completely different, right, I mean, it's those little 270 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: things that sort of happened in that game. But I 271 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: agree with you the Titans right now. Look, they're extremely 272 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: strong defensively. Ryan Tannehill, you know, he's not being asked 273 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: to do all that much, but he's playing smart football, 274 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: right He's you know, you can see him when he 275 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: knows it's not there. He's not going to take usually 276 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: the killer sack, and he's not going to try to 277 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: force it into coverage. He's going to throw it away. 278 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: He's going to protect them. And Derek Henry is a 279 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: beast running the ball. I mean you said it. The 280 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: number of times where he runs into the line and 281 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: it's like, all right, there is nothing there and he 282 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: just sort of plows forward for five yards. I mean, 283 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: there is a huge difference when you're looking at second 284 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: and five as opposed to second and eight. As much 285 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: as the NFL has changed, if you play lockdown defense, 286 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: if you can run the ball, you've got a chance 287 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: to do something in the playoffs, right, So, I mean, 288 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: I'm in agreement with you. I'm really interested to see 289 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: where they go forward. Do you think, to be honest, 290 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: that this team has a chance. I mean there's only 291 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: four teams left, so yeah, they've got a chance, but 292 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 1: a realistic chance to win the Super Bowl. 293 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: Yes, I think they do. And the point that you 294 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: mentioned about Tannahill is dead on. He's been very efficient. 295 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 2: I think that's the word I've been kind of using 296 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: for Ryan Tannehill. He's making the throzy ass to make, 297 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 2: he's not making too many mistakes. He's only had one 298 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 2: interception the last four games that he started in. He's 299 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: doing exactly what what he needs to do. He's managing 300 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: the game and he's just letting Derek Henry take over. 301 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, if they can get through the 302 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: Patriots and the Ravens, that they can beat anyone, So 303 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 2: why not? Why not Super Bowl? 304 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 1: And you keep waiting for their efficiency in the red 305 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 1: zone to die out, but it's just not. I mean 306 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 1: every time they get in the Renzo, they're basically scoring 307 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: a touchdown. So yeah, it's going to be interesting. 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And 358 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: if you've got a gambling problem, call one eight hundred gambler. 359 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: All right, Ian, let's get to the real wild one 360 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: that Chiefs fifty one, Texans thirty one. All I can 361 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: say is thank goodness for in game wagering. Okay, I 362 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: mean I felt relatively confident even when the Chiefs saw 363 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: way behind, that they were going to find a way 364 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: to win that game. It's Bill O'Brien to Patrick Mahomes, 365 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: but it's fourteen nothing. The Textans are about to come 366 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: in for another score, and you know that team from Braveheart, 367 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: the first big battle where the cavalry's charging and Mel 368 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: Gibson the screaming hold hold, and of course right then, 369 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: only the cavalry gets just close enough and he screams no, 370 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: and they all pick up the long sticks as a defense. 371 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: That's legit how I felt as I'm watching the in 372 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: game odds. It's fourteen to nothing. The Chiefs are still 373 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: in game two point favorites. It's twenty one nothing, and 374 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: the money line is still just like plus one point 375 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: thirty on the Chiefs. I'm like, hold, hold, And finally 376 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: it's twenty four to nothing. The in game money line 377 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: on the Chiefs is like plus two ten and they're 378 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: getting seven, and I'm like no. And that made up 379 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: for a long weekend. But that is really one of 380 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: the reasons why if you are gambling, make sure you're 381 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: paying attention to in game wagers, because there's certainly a 382 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: way to maximize your winning. Anyway, the Chiefs went crazy, 383 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: fourth biggest comeback and playoff history. Travis Kelcey and Damian 384 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: Williams score three touchdowns each. The homes throws for five touchdowns. 385 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: The offense looks borderline unstoppable. The defense, however, obviously struggled 386 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: for at least the first half. Deshaun Watson threw for 387 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: three hundred eighty eight yards two touchdowns. DeAndre Hopkins, Kenny Stills, 388 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: Wolfeler they each had at least eighty yeards receiving. So 389 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: you've got a game where the Chiefs were down twenty 390 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: four to nothing at home against a mediocre team, but 391 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: they ultimately win in a blowout. Do you feel better 392 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: about the Chiefs worse about the Chiefs or the same 393 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: that you felt coming in about the Chiefs. 394 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 2: I think through all of that, I think I feel 395 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 2: the same about the Chiefs, to be completely honest. I mean, 396 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: I just have to say that was probably one of 397 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: the most wild football games I've ever watched. I mean, 398 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: I even though last year wasn't a huge comeback, I 399 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 2: was thinking of last year's Chiefs and Rams Monday night 400 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,719 Speaker 2: game just with how many points were scored. Just an 401 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 2: insane game to watch. I was just laughing out loud 402 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 2: watching the game. It was nuts to see that twenty 403 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 2: four and then they not only did they make the 404 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 2: comeback from twenty four to nothing, they did it all 405 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 2: in one quarter. They were winning at halftime. It was insane. 406 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 2: But that's I mean, that is the Chiefs. They are extreme. 407 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 2: They have an extremely explosive offense that can do that 408 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 2: to any team. And don't forget Tech. The Texans were 409 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: one of the worst defenses all year as well, so 410 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: it wasn't totally surprising to see an explosive offense like 411 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 2: that put up one points against that bad of a defense. 412 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 2: So I mean, it's kind of what I expected. Also, 413 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: I think Bill O'Brien kind of shot himself in the 414 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: foot there a couple times when they did have the 415 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: lead as well, so it wasn't totally surprising. But man, 416 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 2: that was a fun game to watch. 417 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, man, I feel a little worse 418 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: about them, And that sounds insane, right, because they just 419 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: had this incredible comeback. They wound up winning by twenty points. 420 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: But you said it that Texans do not have an 421 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: imposing defense, right, I mean, you should be able to 422 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: basically do what you want to do. After they're coming 423 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: off a very hard fought game against the Bills. You've had, 424 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: you know, a week to rest, and again, you're not 425 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: supposed to really be rusty. You had the game against 426 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: the Charters in week seventeen where you should be ready 427 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 1: to go, And the fact that they fall behind like 428 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: that initially is kind of scary, especially because one of 429 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: the reasons I really like the Chiefs is how well 430 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: the defense had been playing, right. I mean, realistically, they 431 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: had just started to put it all together over the 432 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: last I don't know, five or six weeks. They were 433 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: holding opponents way down. I don't know whether or not 434 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: it was the injury to Thornhill or whatever that kind 435 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: of messed them up a little bit. But it makes 436 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: me a little worried about them because you know, they're 437 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: going to go up against the Titans, and again, we'll 438 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,239 Speaker 1: talk about that game specifically in a minute, but I 439 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: don't think they're going to be able to just do 440 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: whatever they want offensively. I mean, the Titans are in 441 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: a completely different class off defensively than the Texans. And 442 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: I realized that the Texans beat the Titans a couple 443 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, so you know, but that's just kind 444 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: of what football in right now. You don't really feel 445 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: confident that, you know, the Texans would be able to 446 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: hang with the Titans if they played with them. The 447 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: Titans defense is very strong, they're playing well, you know, 448 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: given the struggles of the Chiefs defense. This actually makes 449 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: me a little more worried about them than I was 450 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: coming in. Is that crazy? 451 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: No, I mean, no, that's not crazy at all. And 452 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: to be honest, like you said, I mean, we're going 453 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 2: to talk about with this AFC Championship game here soon, 454 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 2: but I'm I'm just from a betting percent for a perspective. 455 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: I'm kind of glad that they had that's such a 456 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: huge offensive burst there because the public is. I guarantee 457 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: you the public's gonna love them next week because of 458 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 2: that recency bias, and I think just because that offensive explained, 459 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 2: I mean fifty one points, the public's gonna see that, 460 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: and I think they're gonna they're gonna bet on them. 461 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, from the eye like that, and we're gonna 462 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 2: get in that game here soon. But yeah, I mean 463 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 2: I wasn't too sold on the Chiefs going into the 464 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 2: game to begin with, though, so that's why I kind 465 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 2: of still feel the same. It's kind of what I expected. 466 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 2: Their defenses is decent, They're not great, They're not bad. 467 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 2: I mean, Deshaun Watson is a winner, so I think 468 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 2: you have to kind of put you have to take 469 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 2: that into consideration as well. He was gonna have a 470 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: good game today regardless. I think it's Deshaun Watson. He 471 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 2: can bring it when the pressure's on. So I think 472 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 2: part of that was just kind of Deshaun Watson doing 473 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson things as well, So I think you have 474 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 2: to kind of take that in consideration. 475 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: I think that's certainly a fair spin. So we'll talk 476 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: about that Titans Chiefs game in the second, but first 477 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: let's get to the last game of this past weekend 478 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: Packers twenty eight, Seahawks twenty three. This ended right before 479 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: we started recording, so it's real fresh in our minds. 480 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: I don't think it's rocket science to say that the 481 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: Seahawks should probably just le Russell Wilson do his thing 482 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: right from the start instead of trying to run the 483 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 1: ball with you know, old and backup running backs. That's 484 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: a story for another time, though. I'm interested to hear 485 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: your thoughts here because this feels like another game in 486 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: a long list of games for the Packers where you 487 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: leave and you think they're not that good of a team. 488 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: I mean, Aaron Rodgers sixteen to twenty seven for two 489 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: hundred and forty three yards and two touchdowns, both to 490 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: Devontae Adams, who had a huge game with one hundred 491 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: and six yards. I'll admit that Rogers made a couple 492 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: of incredible throws, especially right at the end there to 493 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: Devontae Adams, where he just dropped it in. Aaron Jones 494 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: rushes twenty one times only sixty two yards. He does 495 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 1: score two touchdowns. I mean, the Seahawks are not a 496 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: particularly imposing defense, so they didn't look great offensively. Here 497 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: the defense for the Packers. They do sack Russell Wilson 498 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: five times, but it certainly didn't have this dominant defensive 499 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: effort feel to the whole thing. So I asked it 500 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: with the Chiefs. How about the Packers after this game? Better, worse? 501 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: The same? How are you feeling this idea? 502 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? The same. I'm not a huge believer in the Packers. 503 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 2: I think, to be completely frank and blunt, I think 504 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: they're one of the worst thirteen to three teams ever. 505 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,719 Speaker 2: And actually, if you look at the stats, they do 506 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 2: have the worst point differential, like the plus minus point 507 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: differential of any thirteen to three team. Ever, they barely 508 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 2: held on to that against the Seahawks. And I read 509 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: something earlier today about the Seahawks. If you took every 510 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 2: single score game that was decided by a single score 511 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 2: in the NFL season this year and flipped the result, 512 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 2: the Seahawks would have been the worst team in the NFC. 513 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 2: They would have been three and thirteen if you flipped 514 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: all those singles score games. So the Seahawks really worn't 515 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 2: that great of a team, and the Packers barely held 516 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: on to that win. I mean a big reason of that, 517 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: but just because, like you said, Russell Wilson can just 518 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 2: completely take over the game. And that's why the Seahawks 519 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: got into the playoffs just because of Russell Wilson. So 520 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 2: but I mean for the Packers to have impressed me, 521 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 2: they would have had to really have handled the Seahawks, 522 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,239 Speaker 2: and they did at the start, but then they let 523 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: them completely climb back in and the Seahawks could have 524 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 2: won that game. If Russell Wilson didn't take that there 525 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: on third down, the Seahawks could have went down and 526 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 2: scored a touchdown and won the game. So I'm not 527 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 2: sold on the Packers whatsoever. And that's that's how I 528 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: felt going into it. I didn't bet on a side 529 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: in this game. I ended up taking the under, so 530 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 2: I that was my first loss in the NFL playoffs. 531 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 2: But I didn't really trust either offense. But that's why 532 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 2: I didn't bet on the side, because I think both 533 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 2: the Seahawks and the Packers aren't as good as the 534 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 2: records have shown. So I didn't believe in the Packers 535 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 2: before the game. I don't believe in the Packers moving forward. 536 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I completely agree. And the thing is it's probably 537 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: not going to be an issue next week. But they 538 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: have to learn how to essentially put their foot on 539 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: the throat of their opponents, right because the second half 540 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: they barely score. They just they just ease up and 541 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: they sort of play keep away. And it really could 542 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: have and probably should have cost them in this game, 543 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: because you're right, I mean that last drive Wilson got 544 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: the ball back with you know, four or five minutes left, 545 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: and you thought, okay, you can drive them right down 546 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: and square the touchdown. So yeah, I have a feeling 547 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: Ian that you and I are probably both going to 548 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: be looking at the games next week similarly. But I agree, 549 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: I was not impressed with this performance. And again, the 550 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: Seahawks aren't that good a team. I mean, it's really Wilson. 551 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: So the fact that the Packers wound up victorious in 552 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: their home field by five points not like a huge 553 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: sign that, Wow, this team really has what it takes. 554 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: I'm certainly worried about them going into San Francisco next week, 555 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that in a second, but before 556 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: we do, I want to mind everyone about our giveaway. 557 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: It's a sign Michael Thomas Saint's helmet running through the 558 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: end of January. 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But 576 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: the consensus line I've got right now is the Chiefs 577 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 1: laying seven and a half with the total at fifty 578 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: one and a half. So again, I've seen this at 579 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: nine and a half at some places when they open. 580 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: I don't know where their gunment, but it's gonna move around. 581 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: So bear that in mind. But for our purposes, we'll 582 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: take it at the Chiefs laying seven and a half 583 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: with the total at fifty one and a half, it's 584 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: a really interesting game to me. I mean, they've obviously 585 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: they've met before the Titans one thirty five, thirty two, 586 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: although they probably did not deserve to win that game. 587 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: But forget that for a second. Go back to the 588 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: middle of the year. There became this formula for trying 589 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: to beat the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes right, run the 590 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: ball a ton, control the clock, keep Mahomes off the field. 591 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: That's how the Colts did it when they won. That's 592 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: how the Texans did it when they won. And that's 593 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: really the exact forma that the Titans look to use 594 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: in pretty much every game. And you look at this 595 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: game with the Chiefs putting up fifty one, and you think, 596 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: how is any defense supposed to stop Mahomes at this point? 597 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: But the Titans just legitimately shut down what looked to 598 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: be the most unstoppable offense in the NFL. So look, 599 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: you've had a couple of minutes to digest this entire weekend. 600 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: How do you feel here with the consensus line just 601 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: over a touchdown and the big total at fifty one 602 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: and a half. 603 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 2: I absolutely love the Titans. I mean I touched on 604 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 2: this earlier. I think it's the recency bias of seeing 605 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: the Chiefs put up that many points is why the 606 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 2: line is where it's at right now. The big thing 607 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: I'm looking at, I mean, we have it. Like you mentioned, 608 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: these two teams played earlier in the season, so we can. 609 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 2: I mean it's gonna be different. They're gonna make coaching 610 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 2: changes or strategy changes, i should say, heading into this game. 611 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 2: But the big thing that I'm looking at when I 612 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 2: look at the box score of their thirty five thirty 613 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 2: two win over the Chiefs earlier in the season, Dereck 614 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 2: Henry in that game twenty three carries one hundred and 615 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 2: eighty eight yards two touchdowns. That's an average of eight 616 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 2: point two yards per carrying that game. So you're given 617 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 2: a team more than a touchdown worth of points in 618 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 2: a game where they beat them earlier in the year, 619 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 2: and their star player who they're leaning on now in 620 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 2: the playoffs, just absolutely torch them. That doesn't make any 621 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 2: sense to me, especially with I mean, the Titans have 622 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 2: to be riding high right now, the amount of confidence 623 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 2: they have to be feeling going into this game, after 624 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: beating the Patriots, after beating the top team in the league, 625 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: the Ravens. I mean, they are going to be a 626 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: very confident team heading into this year. Now. When they 627 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: did play early in the season, it was in Tennessee, 628 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 2: so this time it is obviously going to be in 629 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: Kansas City, so that might make a little bit of 630 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 2: a difference. But I absolutely love the Titans at that number. 631 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: I think I should lock that in soon because I 632 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 2: think money might start to come in on the Titans 633 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 2: once people get over the recency bias of seeing the 634 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 2: Chiefs put up fifty one points there today. So I 635 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 2: think it might be good to get in on the 636 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 2: Titans early. As far as the total, I think I 637 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 2: would have to lean. I would have to lean the over. 638 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,479 Speaker 2: I mean, Patrick mahomes with put up fifty fifty one 639 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 2: points today and then Derek Henry is gonna get them 640 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of yards and points there 641 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: when they play as well, So I'd have to lean 642 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 2: the over a little bit. It makes me a little 643 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 2: bit nervous because anytime there's there's a team that runs 644 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 2: the ball a lot, I think you want to look 645 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 2: more at the under because the more you run the ball, obviously, 646 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: the more clock you eat up, which is less time 647 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 2: for points. But at that number where it's at right now, 648 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 2: I would lean the over in that. So I like 649 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 2: the Titans in the over. 650 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the Titans too, as long as it's 651 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: above a touchdown. I do do you have any interest? 652 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: By the way, I mean, the Titans are plus two 653 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: eighty five on the money line. That doesn't really entice 654 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: me there. I feel like the points, but I'm just 655 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: wondering about you. 656 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't take No. I mean 657 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 2: I was on Titans plus ten against the Ravens and 658 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 2: then hindsight, obviously I wish I took that huge is 659 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: like a plus three fifty money line. So maybe I 660 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: should learn from that mistake and sprinkle the money line 661 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 2: a little bit this weekend. But no, I think I 662 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 2: think I'll just stick with the with with with the 663 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 2: points and you and you mentioned that briefly there too, 664 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 2: as long as it stays at seven or above, that's 665 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 2: where like the Titans. If it dips, blow that magic 666 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 2: number of seven, and that's where I would be a 667 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 2: little bit more cautious. 668 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I completely agree. I above seven, I like the Titans. 669 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: It's interesting because you mentioned it, so you think that this, 670 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: as the week goes on, is probably going to come 671 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: down then, right? 672 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean maybe because I just think 673 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 2: it opened up such a big line because of the 674 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 2: game today. We saw the Chiefs put up fifty one 675 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 2: points in three quarters, So I would think maybe people 676 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 2: are going to start thinking about a little bit more too. 677 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 2: Logically as the week goes on, and sharp money was 678 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 2: probably going to come in on the Titans, I would think, so, yes, yes, yeah, 679 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,239 Speaker 2: I would think it's going to get closer closer, it's 680 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,239 Speaker 2: going to go lower as the week goes on. 681 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,719 Speaker 1: I don't know why. I guess I feel that this 682 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: is the way it's going to go because you've got 683 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: the Titans who have just knocked off the Patriots and 684 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: the Ravens, so you feel like that the public would 685 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: be on them. But I feel like the public is 686 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: the Titan. You know, the public's going to just be 687 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: enamored of the fifty one points right and Patrick Mahomes 688 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: and just going to want to go all over the Chiefs. 689 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: And I agree that the Sharps are probably going to 690 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: be hitting the Titans and that's going to at least 691 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: keep it in check. But yeah, I don't have a 692 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: good feeling for but I agree with you that I'm 693 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: gonna get a planet now while it's seven and a 694 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: half because I do like that number, and it could 695 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's not gonna rise anywhere crazy. It's not 696 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: gonna go up to like ten or anything like that. 697 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: So you know, as long as you're above seven, you know, 698 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: the difference between seven and a half eight eight and 699 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: a half, it's not that big a deal. So I 700 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: feel like locking in it now. And with the total 701 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: look I to say it. I mean I went with 702 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: the under this week, which was over by halftime, so 703 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: it's certainly not something that I feel great about. I 704 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: would still lean the under here, man, I mean I 705 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: get it. I just I see this as more of 706 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: you know, the Titans putting up a pretty big defensive 707 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: effort going into this game, and you know, I could 708 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: see it being close. It's probably not one the I'm 709 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: going to pull the trigger on but at the opening number, 710 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: despite what you know, the fact that the Chiefs basically 711 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: just went over this number by themselves, I think I 712 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: would still probably lean towards the under, but not enough 713 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: to make a play on it. Forty nine Ers hosting 714 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: the Packers, so their early consensus lines again the forty 715 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: nine Ers laying seven with the total at forty five. 716 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: Another rematch here. The previous game in Week twelve was 717 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: a dominant performance by the Niners thirty seven to eight. 718 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was sacked five times. George Kittle had one 719 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty nine yards. Look, it's a significant spread. 720 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: Both these spreads are pretty significant for a conference. You know, 721 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: seven points in a playoff game, it's no joke. I 722 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: think I know how you feel here. I think I 723 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: probably feel the same. But what are your thoughts here 724 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: on the spread of seven with the total at forty five. 725 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, just just quickly mentioned two pretty big spreads for 726 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 2: championship games. I'm gonna look into it tomorrow, but I 727 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: wonder if this is the first time that both championship 728 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 2: games have been lines of a touchdown or more. That's 729 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 2: kind of interesting. But yes, I am definitely going with 730 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers here. I just think they're underrated 731 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: and the Packers are overrated. I mean, I've said my 732 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 2: piece about the Packers. I think they're the worst thirteen 733 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 2: to three team ever. And now they're going on the road. 734 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 2: They've got to go to San Francisco, where where they 735 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 2: just they got walloped in San Francisco earlier in the season. 736 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 2: I love the forty nine Ers. I love their coaching. 737 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 2: I think this is another game where there's gonna be 738 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 2: coaching advantage. I'm not a huge fan of Matt Lafleur, 739 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 2: and I think that was part of the reason why 740 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 2: they barely squeaked by the Seahawks today. I didn't love 741 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 2: the game plan by Matt Lafleur, so in a coaching 742 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 2: matchup between him and Kyle Shanahan as well. I love 743 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan and that coaching matchup. I just I don't 744 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 2: see how the Packers are gonna be able to slow 745 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 2: down the forty nine Ers, and then I don't see 746 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 2: how the Packers are gonna score points either. So I 747 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 2: mean the spreads at seven, I would even take the 748 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 2: forty nine Ers close to at like nine, and a half. 749 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 2: I would probably still take the forty nine ers. I 750 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 2: might even take the forty nine ers if it was ten. 751 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 2: So at seven, yes, give me that all day. 752 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna I don't see this dropping under a touchdown. 753 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: If it does, I'm pushing all my chips into the 754 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: middle on the forty nine ers for sure, if you 755 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: get at six and a half or something like that. 756 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: But I agree with you, I like it at seven. 757 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: I think this is finally gonna be the game. I mean, 758 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: we look, I mean you go back to the game 759 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: they played against the nine Ers earlier and you were like, 760 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: oh boy, this is not These two teams are not 761 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: in the same class. Nothing has changed at all. And 762 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: you know with the forty nine ers just being healthy. 763 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: I mean the one thing people forget. They hadn't had 764 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: a buy since week four. I mean, they were exhausted, 765 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: they were banged up, they had that buy. They got healthy. 766 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: Bosa is a maniac, and he's just you know, they 767 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: don't have a second receiver the Packers. It's really really 768 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: difficult to see the Packers winning this game, certainly, but 769 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: keeping this game close. Man. So I agree with you 770 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: at this point. I don't have a real good feel 771 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: for the total. By the way, at forty five. I mean, 772 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: you know, the first game was exactly forty five thirty 773 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: seven eight, So I don't personally have any play on that. 774 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: But in terms of the spread, yeah, I mean, and 775 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: I'm not too worried by the way about where this 776 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: is going. Like you said, it's not going to go 777 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: to ten or anything like that, so I don't feel 778 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: the big rush to get in if the public somehow 779 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: becomes you know, Packers are a very public team. If 780 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: the public somehow pushes this to six and a half, 781 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: then I'd be all over it. So for me, I 782 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: don't feel all that crazy about going after it. I'll 783 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: probably put some on it at seven for now, but 784 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: I don't feel crazy about going that because if it 785 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: goes to seven and a half, it goes to eight whatever, 786 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: not the big deal for me. But do you have 787 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: any feeling on the total whatsoever? 788 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: No, I'm with you. I won't be betting on the 789 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 2: total at that number because I think, I honestly think, 790 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 2: I mean, it sounds like an easy answer, but I 791 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 2: honestly think it's gonna be a very similar score to 792 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 2: what the regular season game was just because I think 793 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 2: there are forty nine Ers offense is just a lot 794 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 2: better than the Packers defense and their defense forty nine 795 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 2: Ers defense a lot better than the Packers' offense thirty 796 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 2: seven to eight in the regular season. I think it's 797 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 2: gonna be similar. I just don't see the Packers. I 798 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 2: mean the Packers. I think what they'll have to do 799 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 2: on offense is they need to get Aaron Jones going, 800 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 2: and they need to get him going early, and they 801 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 2: need to get him going in more than just the 802 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 2: running game as well. If they can get him in 803 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 2: the past involved in the passing game a little bit, 804 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 2: then that will take a little bit of the pressure 805 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 2: off Davante Adams and not in them not having a 806 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 2: second receiver that they can go too. So I mean, 807 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 2: and it's always hard to discount Aaron Rodgers, one of 808 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 2: the greatest quarterbacks of all time, obviously, but no, I 809 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 2: would stay away from the total just because I think 810 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 2: it's gonna be I think it's gonna be a similar 811 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 2: to what it was last last game. So I think 812 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers are gonna win by I don't 813 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 2: think I think forty nine is gonna win by a lot. 814 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 2: And I don't think the Packers are gonna score a 815 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 2: lot of points, so yeah, I'll stay away from the total. 816 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, we we view this game very similarly. And again, 817 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: I really think that if the Saints had managed to 818 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: beat the Vikings, that the Saints would have come into 819 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: Lambo and beat them, and you know, pretty you know, 820 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: I think this was really the best that you know, God, 821 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to say it like this, but it 822 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,399 Speaker 1: just feels like a like a fraudulent season a little 823 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: bit for the Packers. 824 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 2: Right. 825 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: Again, they're not a thirteen to three team. They wind 826 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: up drawing another team that's not all that good, you know, 827 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: the Seahawks, as well as Russell Wilson gets them to play, 828 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: they wind up getting a very favorable draw there. You know, 829 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: they're a decent team, they're a solid team. They're a 830 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: playoff team, but they're not a team that deserved really 831 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: a BIGE, you know, obviously for the reasons that we discussed. 832 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: And they're not a team that I feel like is 833 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,919 Speaker 1: a super Bowl caliber team. So I grew you go ahead. 834 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 2: Yes, sorry, Well I was just gonna say I will 835 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 2: say something about about the Packers positive. There is something 836 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 2: to say about just being able to squeak out these 837 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 2: just dirty, grimy close games. I mean, they do have 838 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 2: a thirteen and three record. There is something you have 839 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,720 Speaker 2: to say for that. They didn't lose the close games. 840 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 2: They they managed to win these dirty, grimy close games. 841 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 2: So there is something to say for that. So if 842 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 2: they can turn this into a slugfest with the forty 843 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 2: nine ers, maybe Aaron Rodgers can pull it out. Yeah, 844 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 2: but yeah, there's something to say for that. 845 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want to hate mail from 846 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: Packers that I picked them early on in our preseason 847 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 1: episodes to win the division and everything like that. I 848 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: love Aaron Rodgers. He's one of my favorite players of 849 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: all time. They're a very very solid team. But I 850 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,439 Speaker 1: really do think that there's a class difference right now 851 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 1: with the forty nine Ers and the Packers. So I 852 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: do see this line creeping up sort of sounds like 853 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: you do, and I'm not afraid to go after it 854 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: because I don't think if they beat the forty nine ers, 855 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 1: kudos to them, and I you know, I'll eat crow 856 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: because you know, I really really it's it's very difficul 857 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: well to see it happening. I could much to me 858 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: I could so much easier to see the Titans beating 859 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: the Chiefs than I could the Packers beating the forty 860 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: nine ers A a way. I see right. Yeah, so 861 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: that's how I say, Well, it should be fun. But 862 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: that is it for today's show. Thanks a lot for 863 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: joining me, Ian, especially on a Sunday night with very 864 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: little time to think about the games. Did a great job. 865 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: Remind everybody where they can find more of you in 866 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 1: your work. 867 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. The main area where you can find me 868 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 2: is on Twitter at Ian mac Os, I A I 869 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 2: N m ac Os. Also, obviously I worked for odd Shark. 870 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 2: We also have a Monday to Friday live stream on YouTube, 871 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 2: so just search odd Shark on YouTube. It's called Guys 872 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 2: and Bets. I'm on that from Monday to Thursday as well, 873 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 2: so check that out. 874 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: Awesome, thanks again for coming on. I want to remind 875 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: everyone about bet MGM, where you can get a risk 876 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: free five hundred dollars bet if you sign up for 877 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: the bet MGM Sports app using our promo code Harris, 878 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: and don't forget to leave this review on Apple Podcasts 879 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: or Stitcher. Send a screenshot of that review to contest 880 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: at Betting Pros doc to be entered into our Michael 881 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: Thomas signed helmet giveaway. 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