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Speaker 3: This min tepa crazy world podcast makes some And when
Speaker 3: I tell you we started this show, we wanted to,
Speaker 3: you know, pay love and pay homage to legends and icons,
Speaker 3: people that came before us and people that's holding it down.
Speaker 3: This man right here, I want to say this out front,
Speaker 3: and I want people to try to challenge me. This
Speaker 3: man might be the greatest performer.
Speaker 1: On Earth. Notice I didn't say greatest reggae.
Speaker 3: Performer or dancehole performer or Jamaican performer. I said one
Speaker 3: of the greatest performer on Earth. No man wants to
Speaker 3: go on stage after him. We researched his music and
Speaker 3: when I tell you, Roster, the man dim right there.
Speaker 3: We since we've been doing this for eight years, well
Speaker 3: race one day on someone's music and go research it.
Speaker 3: Me and Roster Man listen to this man for five
Speaker 3: days traits. We couldn't stop listening. We couldn't stop because
Speaker 3: the man, when I listened to the to the that
Speaker 3: phrase the mandem, he's the mandim.
Speaker 1: I know that people call him the king.
Speaker 3: He doesn't like being called the king because he's a
Speaker 3: humble servant. But I tell you, like this from the people,
Speaker 3: you are a king to us. You just sold out
Speaker 3: New York City thirty six thousand two shows, first reggae
Speaker 3: artist to ever do.
Speaker 1: That by himself.
Speaker 3: He also in one year sold more singles than Bob Marley.
Speaker 3: He is a legend, legend, an icon of an icon.
Speaker 3: In case you don't know who were talking about, were
Speaker 3: talking about the one and only. I'm gonna be honest
Speaker 3: with you.
Speaker 1: I was so honored. You know what I mean when they.
Speaker 3: Said that, you know, Bouju is coming here because are are.
Speaker 3: Our show is about giving people flowers when they're alive,
Speaker 3: giving people there you know their praises, and you are
Speaker 3: somebody that you know you deserve this man like you
Speaker 3: deserve like what you're doing and continue to inspire. But
Speaker 3: let's talk about when you first came home from jail, right,
Speaker 3: it was a it was a moment in the airport
Speaker 3: right where the people rust you, right, and I can
Speaker 3: tell you you're a man of the.
Speaker 1: People, but you also was a man of privacy.
Speaker 4: I can tell Yeah, that was a very very very painful, dramatic.
Speaker 4: So read the moment, you know what, touching the side
Speaker 4: of JAMAICANFTA, so many tribulations and seeing the massis coordinate
Speaker 4: the airport.
Speaker 5: You don't want they want to feed like you're doing.
Speaker 4: You don't appreciate your efforts, you know, giving you a
Speaker 4: warm welcome home.
Speaker 5: But we still wanting a man they come of this process.
Speaker 5: All that was happening a.
Speaker 4: Lot to impact the Yeah, I came home, Diesel too. Well,
Speaker 4: I'm under the work, you know. You know I record
Speaker 4: three times I did wow in those days. I'm around
Speaker 4: our school, I'm going around the yard and I'm gonna
Speaker 4: around the chapel, so I have a fit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So it's a difference. Right.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this is this is a question
Speaker 3: I've been wanting to ask somebody for years as a Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna call myself it as a Yankee.
Speaker 1: Yeah right. What is the difference between dancehall and reggae? Answer?
Speaker 4: I was really younger people express themselves. Where will get
Speaker 4: more sexualized, we get more slangy. Reggae music is where
Speaker 4: we speak to the soul. Reggae music is what our
Speaker 4: ancestors and our forefathers left with us to keep us
Speaker 4: close to the connection to God.
Speaker 5: Because this music wasn't given to us by a man.
Speaker 4: This is music was a divine music sent to an
Speaker 4: island of an hundred and father for a square miles.
Speaker 4: With our population at that time, I've nearly won pint
Speaker 4: four or five million people. But their struggles and their
Speaker 4: tenacity to withstand these struggles was so much so that
Speaker 4: the fire themselves side fitting for them to be blessed
Speaker 4: with their music of their own, to express their ideas
Speaker 4: and ideology and their pin and their praises. And so
Speaker 4: Reggae music was borned by the great Starlos. First we
Speaker 4: had to count Machuke, and then we have Kings Titch.
Speaker 1: Big, You you Ride, I Ride.
Speaker 4: We have Bob Miley, we have the bit attached to
Speaker 4: have the burning spears, and we have countless a group
Speaker 4: of catalyzes, the heptunes, the techniques. We had many great
Speaker 4: style warts who came along who understood the assignment, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, And that's why reggae music is
Speaker 4: here now because they understood the assignment. Now, we came
Speaker 4: along as a later generation of musicians who knew that
Speaker 4: our predecessors unders put the assignment and we needed to
Speaker 4: understand the assignment.
Speaker 5: So I see myself as a last last.
Speaker 4: Of the more econs, you know, reggae music spear who
Speaker 4: come with that old school knowledge, who knows that this
Speaker 4: music must feed my people, educate them, uplift them, eradicate negativity.
Speaker 5: From their minds, and allow them to whine at the
Speaker 5: same time.
Speaker 1: It's a great.
Speaker 3: So let me just tell you, you know, I live
Speaker 3: a bunch of white neighbors, a bunch of white people,
Speaker 3: and it's two things I like to do.
Speaker 1: I like to bump reggae music around. They don't get
Speaker 1: playing for some reason. You can pump reggae music at
Speaker 1: the highest lack level and it's okay. It's only two
Speaker 1: music you can do that with. It's reggae and South sad.
Speaker 6: That's it's like they won't but it's it's, it's it's
Speaker 6: I see the difference, like and I'm I'm bouncing all
Speaker 6: over the place, like when you first entered the game.
Speaker 3: And then he became raster and it seems like the
Speaker 3: music became more conscious.
Speaker 5: Was that like like I wouldn't say I became. I
Speaker 5: would say I show you who were supposed to be.
Speaker 4: It was always you can't became Okay, you can't become
Speaker 4: some of your aunt because you're going to go back
Speaker 4: to what it was. However, we are supposed to be
Speaker 4: is what we're supposed to be, and we can't change that. However,
Speaker 4: we enter the door, it's just a precursor to get
Speaker 4: to her foot into the door, because I see myself
Speaker 4: as servant, you know, no, you know, one day my
Speaker 4: mom said to me, I think you need to go
Speaker 4: live with your father. And after living with my father
Speaker 4: for six months, my step mom, out of the blue
Speaker 4: decide my school time was twelve o'clock and about I
Speaker 4: think it was ten thirty eleven o'class in de side.
Speaker 4: She wants to send me to the shop. I didn't
Speaker 4: know why, but anyway, I took the bag and I
Speaker 4: took the money and I went to the door. And
Speaker 4: I was walking to the shop and there was a
Speaker 4: mango tree in the car park and from Afar I
Speaker 4: spoked this mango. It was so red. I kept looking
Speaker 4: at it, and the spirit came to me. I said,
Speaker 4: climb this tree, sit in it, eat this mango. Don't
Speaker 4: come out until you are finished.
Speaker 5: Yes, you know. I put the bag in my pocket
Speaker 5: and I climbed the tree and I ate the mango.
Speaker 5: When I dropped the seed on the ground, a car
Speaker 5: pulled up under the mango tree and the door opened
Speaker 5: and a.
Speaker 1: Voice said, juvenile into a clement tiree.
Speaker 5: And I looked down. I said, clod, yeah, clement Ty,
Speaker 5: slide over the tree.
Speaker 4: It wasn't three days later until I realized how much cut,
Speaker 4: how much bruise I am on my legs. This was
Speaker 4: Chavaron scarlet a tree to one called Clementine. So I
Speaker 4: run to Clementary and I said, you know, Chabar. They
Speaker 4: they call me Buck because it was you know, should
Speaker 4: maka so to speak. He said, buck bringing wrong from
Speaker 4: the back car park. So Marne go back to the
Speaker 4: top car park and sad chavs. I'm saying it was
Speaker 4: drive go on there so we see a big water tongue,
Speaker 4: you turn right, not gonna meet your own there, mm hmm.
Speaker 4: So I sat there and watched these two enterty and
Speaker 4: as megastars, Chabarroks Clementine talking, you know, and they getting
Speaker 4: ready to go to this this fat and I said
Speaker 4: to me, Clementary said to me buck later, and Chabarrange said, no,
Speaker 4: bring the soldier. So I sat in a car now
Speaker 4: with the driver Chabarras up front, Clementarry there and I
Speaker 4: was over here. Before I went into the car, he
Speaker 4: pulled a bottle of honey and he walked over to
Speaker 4: me and he said, hold this, and I was holding
Speaker 4: the cock, and he poured the honey into the cock
Speaker 4: and he put his finger into it and put it
Speaker 4: around his joint and started smoking.
Speaker 5: I said to him, why you do that? He said,
Speaker 5: to keep the vice moode.
Speaker 4: I knew right there and then it was a spiritual
Speaker 4: thing because my love for danceland, for Chabarrange super seed.
Speaker 5: So much things.
Speaker 4: Because back in the days we had a song system
Speaker 4: called road Star, and Roadstar used to play in our community.
Speaker 5: And when he played chabarrags.
Speaker 4: It's crazy because you know, when I was growing up,
Speaker 4: they were few entertainers who were worthy of my time.
Speaker 4: One was Major Worries. To me, Major Worries was a
Speaker 4: teacher of all of us. He was so advanced in
Speaker 4: his disposition and his lyrical delivery. And ironically, Liqual Twitch
Speaker 4: was a produce of Major Worries. Admiral Bailey was a
Speaker 4: prodigy at Major Worries. SHABAANX was a prodigy of Major Worries.
Speaker 4: And I became a product ye of Melior Worries to
Speaker 4: listening to Major Worries as a real road boy, because
Speaker 4: in Jamaica, in order to do this music, you have
Speaker 4: to be firm.
Speaker 1: I got to be about that life basically.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, it's not about anything else.
Speaker 4: But you have to leave your experience and people see
Speaker 4: you know that your experience is not far fetched.
Speaker 5: You didn't create this thing to gain and support.
Speaker 1: But you you are really, this is you. So we
Speaker 1: had those real Bretherns.
Speaker 4: Tie on ranking tie on, you know, you name them.
Speaker 4: So these are men who they didn't just have this
Speaker 4: these names Louis lepk, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 4: we're really boys in the thing because my experience was
Speaker 4: basically police brutality, gang warfare.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, people trying to kill.
Speaker 4: You're trying to defend yourself against that, people trying to hustle,
Speaker 4: people trying to make.
Speaker 5: It so we dive it.
Speaker 4: Struggles with life so wrong, so wrong, that struggle of
Speaker 4: life to make it into somebody. So when the ranking
Speaker 4: Carli from the tree, that's with a turning point in
Speaker 4: my life, the show that.
Speaker 5: I am truly a servant to come to serve the masses.
Speaker 4: And even to this day when you see each other,
Speaker 4: I would always remind him of the moment that you
Speaker 4: call ing this little boy out of a mango tree.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and he never forgot. He never forgot. No
Speaker 1: shout out to the mango too. So is it true
Speaker 1: that you had an album released Party s Obs and
Speaker 1: a Man. Then come knock on the door the mandem
Speaker 1: I always come for with diamond, but it was Biggie Small. Yeah. Man.
Speaker 5: So I'm on sit on in a.
Speaker 4: Ing so ob Virgin come knock and my mo doing
Speaker 4: a cool swea. When I want to knowing that, I said,
Speaker 4: what's up? Brotherhim saying my name is Biggie Smalls can
Speaker 4: I come in side, I said, my biggest smart coming,
Speaker 4: I'll did. We brought him inside those days I was
Speaker 4: running with Lisa Cortest from a PolyGram.
Speaker 1: He was already Biggie Small he was, No, it was
Speaker 1: on the.
Speaker 5: Up and coming. No, I didn't know that song.
Speaker 4: I didn't know any song of his, but I was,
Speaker 4: you know, my eyes first when I come to music,
Speaker 4: because someone inspired me, so I must inspire someone else.
Speaker 4: So I wasn't going to be the song of the
Speaker 4: person's going to say, no, I'm not this asshole.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So I didn't know who he was when he wasn't
Speaker 4: until when Lisa Cortest came to SOB. She said, oh,
Speaker 4: you met Biggie Smalls. I said, oh yeah, he just
Speaker 4: just brought him inside and we just chilling all the time.
Speaker 4: Never seen him again from that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, goddamn, the word is like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at least at least you got to see him,
Speaker 3: and he got to see him humble, because I mean,
Speaker 3: you're a legend, man like, and you know he's Jamaican,
Speaker 3: so he was probably.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, when bigg came to Jamaica, he came
Speaker 5: up in a wheel chair.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's why he had an accident.
Speaker 5: And it's the most gun shot he has ever heard
Speaker 5: in that.
Speaker 4: Because when he's performing, they was like a shot, Well on,
Speaker 4: the person will get more respect than Biggie smiled at Jamaica.
Speaker 4: Are two persons we love a d MX DMX and
Speaker 4: the last person went our lord foreign Jamaica, our island
Speaker 4: are out was fifty cent.
Speaker 5: You know many men?
Speaker 4: Okay they down himself sent fifty cent on the stage
Speaker 4: and Zeke's yes, sent him and tell him go on
Speaker 4: the stage.
Speaker 5: Now we're ready for many men. You know he went
Speaker 5: up there and sing it and was allowed.
Speaker 1: You know, was Buster Rams your first feature?
Speaker 4: Yeah, because Boster Rhymes used to hang on to them,
Speaker 4: lose can on them and the boot us to get
Speaker 4: up to do our song.
Speaker 5: To get on we used to drive god Mother beat island.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So this is where we do a wiki doc.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean? But you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: I really yeah the bust I really would read bad man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I heard that y'all kept going back in
Speaker 1: the sessions.
Speaker 5: Like yeah, because we forget this right.
Speaker 1: To get it sounds like a session.
Speaker 3: In the basement and his malls in Long Island and
Speaker 3: then you were staying to the city.
Speaker 4: So we drive from seeing a wish fine tonight on Broadway,
Speaker 4: so we used to drive all the way over to
Speaker 4: the Long Island and no matter.
Speaker 1: What, get back to the hood.
Speaker 3: Okay, So let me ask you, because I I've been
Speaker 3: watching and watching and watching.
Speaker 1: You said something that was very interesting.
Speaker 3: You said, apple beats gives gives props back to to reggae,
Speaker 3: to dance hall.
Speaker 1: Do they I heard you say that.
Speaker 5: I don't think that. I never said that.
Speaker 4: I said, I think you fucking perhaps back to dan
Speaker 4: salad and reggae.
Speaker 1: I heard it, bro, Now you really just like I
Speaker 1: thought I heard it, heard it the other way around.
Speaker 3: But then then I heard you say because I heard
Speaker 3: you say apple beast, I thought I heard you say
Speaker 3: that the apple beast.
Speaker 1: Like you know, paint just music.
Speaker 4: Shan out of Africa was fella cute, Yeah, fella cute.
Speaker 4: Uh lucky do bee from South Africa. We had Sally Kita,
Speaker 4: we have used to endor, we have Baba bah No.
Speaker 4: No one wanted to go beyond the pale of what
Speaker 4: those brothers was doing. I went to Africa in nineteen
Speaker 4: ninety when and I spent like three weeks concern at
Speaker 4: the universities can trees educating people from Ghana all over
Speaker 4: the continent about reggae music and dance.
Speaker 1: Sad.
Speaker 4: But I was happy when they came to Their sense
Speaker 4: is to realize that music is the the bridge that's
Speaker 4: going to connect us. But what I was disappointed in
Speaker 4: they didn't try to connect with Jamaica the rules. They
Speaker 4: connect with everyone else except us and you.
Speaker 1: Talking about affle beats. Yes, okay, okay, you sorry.
Speaker 4: So they connected with everyone else except us. But when
Speaker 4: you look at what they're doing, their music is not
Speaker 4: free in Africa. It's fun great need a free Africa.
Speaker 4: If I am in Germanic and my and my country
Speaker 4: and my paper five for free. You're a continent with words,
Speaker 4: son and power, and you have the ability to know
Speaker 4: and now you're singing is fun?
Speaker 1: Cret You don't sing a song to free Africa? Are
Speaker 1: now we need? I'm bringing this to the forefront of
Speaker 1: your mind, but we desire more from them. You want
Speaker 1: the money, go get it.
Speaker 4: But what's going to be said about you later on
Speaker 4: and your posterity. You didn't make any impact. So reggae
Speaker 4: music still stands predominant. It is still the King's music.
Speaker 3: I can say I wasn't ready. I might have heard
Speaker 3: it wrong, but then I also heard you say. This
Speaker 3: is something that I've really, really really listened to you. Yes,
Speaker 3: please tell me.
Speaker 1: One afrobe son.
Speaker 5: I can believe us.
Speaker 4: Bly for us, take us from Kenny. I is suffering,
Speaker 4: people of young men of Kenny are revolting. So Africa
Speaker 4: is on Sudan, so Sudan, you name it. But which
Speaker 4: one of these songs can I relate to for a
Speaker 4: piece of mind to tell me that I'm in the
Speaker 4: struggle and we are going to be better in the struggle,
Speaker 4: and even though the struggle is hard, we're going to overcome.
Speaker 1: Tell me you know what. I don't think I can
Speaker 1: reggae music right.
Speaker 4: Listen, A lot of culture vultures over there. We have
Speaker 4: sat and we have watched reggae time taken.
Speaker 1: I was going there music so hard and stolen our culture.
Speaker 1: I'm knocking nobody.
Speaker 4: But you don't give us no respect, motherfuckers, And you
Speaker 4: still expect us to act like we take something from you.
Speaker 4: This is the King's music. Your music shall come and
Speaker 4: it shall go because has nothing to do with soul,
Speaker 4: It does nothing to do with building energy. Our music
Speaker 4: is time marker. You can remember when you went to
Speaker 4: your first date, when you are their first sex, when
Speaker 4: you marry your wife, when you go to the first dance.
Speaker 4: It's time marker because it's the King's music. You can't
Speaker 4: remember when you're happy, you can't remember when you're sad.
Speaker 4: You can remember all the things because there's a music
Speaker 4: to mark that time period. But everyone wants to take
Speaker 4: from reggae. You want to extracize us on the pay us.
Speaker 1: Let's just stay on alphabe for a second. That is
Speaker 1: direct from REGGAEO.
Speaker 4: No real aphrobetis from Africa, but the influence.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And I'm sure all the alphabid adds will say to you,
Speaker 4: oh aphabid is Aphrobidians are going to do with Jamaica,
Speaker 4: And we will say to them, our music has everything
Speaker 4: to do with Africa. We don't diecatomize, we don't separate
Speaker 4: to ourselves from Africa, no kind, no time, no day,
Speaker 4: because the drum in our music is what speaks to
Speaker 4: our soul. I think the drumming your music speaks to
Speaker 4: your soul. But what are you saying? It's important for
Speaker 4: you to It's easy for you to have anybody to
Speaker 4: listen to you just don't get that wrong.
Speaker 5: But what do you have to say to them? There's
Speaker 5: a hard part.
Speaker 3: I was thinking about Joe and I was like, that's
Speaker 3: not that's like that maybe I close my mouth here.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's easy for you to have the masters to
Speaker 5: listen to you, But what when you say to them?
Speaker 4: You know, we've gone from a people singing singing about
Speaker 4: the freedom that they desire, a people singing about the
Speaker 4: hope of their nation rising to the apex the hope
Speaker 4: of their people and the young men and realizing that
Speaker 4: this is a great nation and they need to take
Speaker 4: the bull by the horn to someone who's what people
Speaker 4: want to plung Just back five five years, fifty five
Speaker 4: years to wear words peans. Now, if you look in
Speaker 4: sub Saharan Africa, we see Africa rising up. The brain
Speaker 4: of Africa has become awakened from Nijera right through. So
Speaker 4: we cannot continue an a trajectory like we don't know
Speaker 4: who we are and our music cannot continue to be uninspiring, right, simple?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: I mean they say that all music comes from Africa, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: but then so so you think that we got music
Speaker 3: come from Africa.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the drum is that we get that your friend,
Speaker 4: we have speaking and our idioms and the way our
Speaker 4: cadence come across it's much different because we're able to
Speaker 4: bandwards and we don't need it English, we need the Oldish.
Speaker 5: Yeah, English, you speaking and I speak out.
Speaker 3: But that's the beauty about listening to you to your
Speaker 3: music is sorry, it's not just you know you could
Speaker 3: dance to like you actually school and people like, what's
Speaker 3: what's the name of the record that it reminds me
Speaker 3: of a NAS record?
Speaker 1: We talk about guns? Oh I got to.
Speaker 3: So you ever heard the record that's had call I
Speaker 3: Gave You Power where he's talking about a gun? Was
Speaker 3: that record inspired by Mister nine?
Speaker 4: I grew up in a culture where those with the gun,
Speaker 4: I think they have the power gun man. No, you
Speaker 4: can't be policed, it can't be sold. Those generally with
Speaker 4: the gun, I think they're so powerful and they don't
Speaker 4: have They don't realize that. What they have done is
Speaker 4: show the younger generation a type cast or a kind
Speaker 4: of mindset that if you do have, you're not powerful.
Speaker 4: There's some consciously broadcast this that if you don't have
Speaker 4: a gone you're not powerful, but that sound telling you
Speaker 4: that whether you have a nine to sixty doesn't matter
Speaker 4: what you have, it doesn't matter. You're not living right
Speaker 4: because the gun can't hurt anybody. It's the individual and
Speaker 4: the mindset that perpetrator. I can committed end result.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: You put a fucking drink right here, it's harmless. The
Speaker 4: person consume it, then it becomes a dud. Same thing
Speaker 4: with a gun.
Speaker 1: Don't kill people, peopleeople, you know, bunch of one of
Speaker 1: my songs.
Speaker 4: So the premise exists. Yeah, don't kill people. People kill people,
Speaker 4: mister nine said to mister five five. So it's like
Speaker 4: the guns are talking to themselves. We're not leaving right, you.
Speaker 3: Know, So it doesn't attend to That's why actually, because
Speaker 3: it reminds me of the Navs song where nas is
Speaker 3: actually talking to a gun and he makes it so
Speaker 3: so there is no correlation. You know, I've never heard
Speaker 3: nothing song before. Okay, okay, okay, this is great. You know,
Speaker 3: so we spoke about some of it earlier. We said, uh,
Speaker 3: when you came home the airport incident where people will
Speaker 3: you know, rushing you and you you kind of like
Speaker 3: needed your time.
Speaker 1: But then this car say comes right after this. I
Speaker 1: read the reviews.
Speaker 3: They said that this might have been one of the
Speaker 3: greatest cars serious on earth.
Speaker 4: I think Jamaica outsideis fried with Jamaica. I've seen larger concerts.
Speaker 4: It's a monumental occasion for Iman. Still being home bland still,
Speaker 4: you know, given appreciation for the love of cause I
Speaker 4: grew up in a simple home.
Speaker 5: The love of God was always there.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: My enemies try to destroy me because you don't know
Speaker 4: who I am. But trust me, they know.
Speaker 5: And they dwell.
Speaker 4: And I think credibility and if it destroyed, credibility is
Speaker 4: easy for you to destroy the man.
Speaker 5: Any man.
Speaker 4: Once you destroy any man's credibility, it's always easier for
Speaker 4: you to go at them. But my father, he stood
Speaker 4: in the bridge and showed them that this is my
Speaker 4: servant and I'm un easier to serve me, not you.
Speaker 4: So yes, they thought they put me away, but what
Speaker 4: they did was raised me up. Because you have to
Speaker 4: realize what man plan to hurt you with, your father
Speaker 4: plan to help you with. Okay, we're living in a world.
Speaker 4: We know that this world, especially the United Stans of Americas,
Speaker 4: is domain. We don't come to contesting we'll come to
Speaker 4: walk like job and we'll not get a robe signal,
Speaker 4: a champion, even more champion dan job because music has
Speaker 4: been used against the people now as a weapon. I
Speaker 4: was here in the early nineteen nineties when I was
Speaker 4: a young man. You had no dreads, and I saw
Speaker 4: the trajectory, and I saw what they were trying to do.
Speaker 4: And they've accomplished it. They are accomplished killing the ki
Speaker 4: arrest one. They've accomplished killing everything positive that comes to
Speaker 4: the music. And it went on a spiral of we'd
Speaker 4: to become the batchery and everything the furious and every
Speaker 4: so after the people gain their consciousness and they hit
Speaker 4: them when someone or something else and they would drive
Speaker 4: the message room so hard that they have no escape.
Speaker 4: We are fortunate enough to be on an island where
Speaker 4: we can educate to ourselves from these circumstances and cultivate
Speaker 4: an identity for our own and a spiritual awareness of
Speaker 4: our own and a firmness to take us through this struggle.
Speaker 5: We don't hear to convert people because we're at a cult.
Speaker 4: Yes, we aim to open the eyes of the ones
Speaker 4: who are hearing the earth so they can partic of
Speaker 4: the goodness of God, not of the goodness of the devil.
Speaker 4: Becaus want to last for a minute, But the goodness
Speaker 4: of God is ever lasting. Now they might say, You
Speaker 4: might say, well, what does reggae music our hold? Does
Speaker 4: reggae music play a part in this? And I will
Speaker 4: say to you, music is here to teach us one lesson.
Speaker 4: If music is the only thing that shall never die,
Speaker 4: Ask yourself, why do you get tired of some music
Speaker 4: in two months?
Speaker 5: Something is wrong?
Speaker 4: Oh tis, I should be timeless, right, it's not anymore?
Speaker 5: So what's happening?
Speaker 1: Disposable music?
Speaker 4: Yes, music is never disposable. The artists are disposable. See
Speaker 4: our profession. Our profession was divinely given to us. It
Speaker 4: is written in the Basic Instruction before leaving Earth that
Speaker 4: you are called the Bible, that a singer and a
Speaker 4: player of instruments shall go before the Lad's coming. So
Speaker 4: what shall we go and do? We shall proclaim it's
Speaker 4: coming forward. You shall bring the people together, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But if we're not doing that, then
Speaker 4: we shall be thrown into the fire heap. Yeah, so
Speaker 4: are my Muslim brothers. They notice, and my author's as brothers.
Speaker 4: They notice my Christian brothers who are standing up. They
Speaker 4: notice this Barkley is not against flesh and blood. It's
Speaker 4: not against none of you guys. It's a spiritual wickedness
Speaker 4: and principalities and darkness in high and low places.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So you can continue, I can head towards the light.
Speaker 5: Your choice, you all do.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about did your your mother give you the
Speaker 1: nickname Buju? Actually I are actually yes? How did this?
Speaker 1: I wasn't there. I wasn't aware I was there, but
Speaker 1: I wasn't aware, you know.
Speaker 4: But I grew up here in Caliman, Bojo. You know,
Speaker 4: BuJo is a Maroon world. Maro Maroon are some of
Speaker 4: the indigenous warriors on my island. We fought the British relentlessly.
Speaker 1: Those are the Moors.
Speaker 4: Maroons are from Blackmores. But my generation originated from Nigeria.
Speaker 4: I'm an Ebu man coming to my bloodline, and we
Speaker 4: fought the British relentle We fared King Charles for farty
Speaker 4: years and I come to the British treaty anybody sustain
Speaker 4: our over eight years automaticala window sovereignty. So we fared
Speaker 4: in for five years and glasses fire and when he
Speaker 4: bardon you to fighting the five years after that, So
Speaker 4: we tricked them into fighting for eight years without sensation.
Speaker 5: And we want our sovereignty from the British.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And we ruled from the Cockpit country down to
Speaker 4: the Clarendian But now our indigenous life and our indigenous
Speaker 4: way of life and our lands are being threatened by
Speaker 4: the current government administries and of Jamnica who seek to
Speaker 4: bring Chinese and the nationalities into the Cockpit region, which
Speaker 4: is an indigenous secret region.
Speaker 5: Do you serve us the Maroons as the warrior as
Speaker 5: so it's.
Speaker 1: Crazy that's happening right now.
Speaker 4: Yes, Well, there's indigenous people all across the world around.
Speaker 4: Actually went from Peru because the multi national seats. People
Speaker 4: have phones, they have, but the multi national seat the
Speaker 4: national resources of the land. Like in the capital country
Speaker 4: of Jamaica. We're rich in backside right now. There's certain
Speaker 4: companies like Nrandom and certain Russian companies who have been
Speaker 4: taking this backside for over seventeen years. And they would
Speaker 4: destroy your school just to take the backside under the school.
Speaker 4: But there's no payment given to the community, not the chief,
Speaker 4: not the council of the indigenous community. It's done to
Speaker 4: the government's structure where these people are just totally and
Speaker 4: your land is being pilfered, like you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 4: So it's a new generation of young men rising up.
Speaker 1: What's the two political parties that you make.
Speaker 5: I don't give a fuck about political.
Speaker 1: That should be one of the political.
Speaker 4: Parties, you know, because they say it's two sides of
Speaker 4: the same kind for change and we who upset.
Speaker 5: But you have to understand that.
Speaker 4: A country is basically a corporation which are elected official
Speaker 4: as a CEO.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 4: A lot of people think a prime minister run a country,
Speaker 4: but you have to understand that these motherfuckers are ceo
Speaker 4: the company called the country, and.
Speaker 5: My board members have the answer. Sometimes these board members
Speaker 5: are so powerful that these.
Speaker 4: Assole ship in your pants when they get a phone
Speaker 4: call from these motherfuckers. You can't tell me that in
Speaker 4: the Caribbean we can improve our standard up living for
Speaker 4: our people. And as a disaster, I'm run going begging left,
Speaker 4: right and center. And these are to say, motherfuckers who
Speaker 4: came into politics with three thousand dollars in their bank
Speaker 4: account us and leaving politices with six hundred thousand million million,
Speaker 4: So where this Where does millions come from? But the
Speaker 4: Caribban people are so passive. I think they put something
Speaker 4: into our water over the years. We'ren't fighting anymore, we're accepting.
Speaker 4: We're not standing up anymore.
Speaker 1: We're laying down.
Speaker 4: And these motherfuckers we call a politician, the real criminals
Speaker 4: and the real crooks. They're having a blast because there's
Speaker 4: no checking balance. Chickan balance don't come from your cronies.
Speaker 4: Checkan balands come from people who feel the pin. And
Speaker 4: that's why you see what like even in Kenya, they
Speaker 4: were taking aback. They didn't know that the young men
Speaker 4: and the young women of Kenya had their dogs so
Speaker 4: much in a way that they could tell each politician.
Speaker 1: What they owned and where they live and where the
Speaker 1: investments were. That shook them.
Speaker 4: So we realized that you know, in the region, ever,
Speaker 4: the better as the leaders we stopped. We need to
Speaker 4: stop elect people based on your skin color and then
Speaker 4: being charming. It should be on your mandate and we
Speaker 4: have to hold your feet to the fire to accomplish
Speaker 4: what you promised.
Speaker 1: Simple and coming from the islands that historically were the
Speaker 1: ones fighting.
Speaker 4: Listen the islands far listen The first island far to
Speaker 4: Freus was eighty and where's heated today? In as Caribbean
Speaker 4: conjures who look at eighty in disgust because they don't
Speaker 4: see themselves us standing with them, brother, the first nation
Speaker 4: to fight for free us. And you ask yourself, why
Speaker 4: is eighty suffering so much? And why are my Haitians
Speaker 4: brothers on so much pressure?
Speaker 1: You know why?
Speaker 4: Because they stand up against the giant who they should
Speaker 4: have bowed, and they refuse, and everyone wants them to bow.
Speaker 1: Hate it.
Speaker 5: Do not bow, Keep standing up. We stand with you.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 5: M hm.
Speaker 1: So I oh, let's talk about Pehouse Records for a second.
Speaker 1: How do you get down with Pinhouse records? I'm on.
Speaker 4: Well, Pandos records is a story where I used to
Speaker 4: leave Chancellly and down't town kings. Oh my gun jade,
Speaker 4: everybody smoking scept give me my blood, clap.
Speaker 1: Giant. That's the first time we got to drink chance.
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Speaker 1: So you about pans?
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 4: So in nineteen eighty six August is seventeenth, I went
Speaker 4: to Blue Mounting Records. Right, I was in a car,
Speaker 4: a taxi with Henry and it's a taxi driver. We
Speaker 4: claim I claiment. I was my protege. It's like it
Speaker 4: was in those days. I used to DJ and sound
Speaker 4: systems and I used to jump on the sound system
Speaker 4: truck like Friday and I wouldn't come back home until Sunday.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I would DJ Friday night, Saturday night, and I come
Speaker 4: back home Sunday and Monday morning.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I used to work on a sound system called Rambo International,
Speaker 4: and then I started working on Sweet Love.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: Sweet Love song system was owned by Flowa Gun, a
Speaker 4: very popular DJ. We run things, things, don't runway anything
Speaker 4: we do Red Dragon, Flowa Gun's brother was Red Dragon.
Speaker 4: So Red Dragon saying, look, every person your feel why
Speaker 4: now come home? Look every person you ever. So Red
Speaker 4: Dragon to me was the beddest motherfuckers at DJ.
Speaker 1: So what my role was to warm the dance up?
Speaker 1: He man?
Speaker 3: So, by the way, the whole time, I was like,
Speaker 3: I gotta watch how.
Speaker 7: He wrote a Smith today. So I've been waiting for
Speaker 7: this this whole moment, I was like, what's the warm
Speaker 7: the dance? I used to as a young entertainer.
Speaker 4: I used to be entertainer called Terry Ganzy, so it
Speaker 4: just be Butcher Mount and Terry Ganzy, Daddy Lizad Clement
Speaker 4: I flower Gun, a red Dragon, Sanchez, red Rose, you know,
Speaker 4: and you know. So one day the rain was falling
Speaker 4: and Clement said, no problem, he's going to Blue Mountain
Speaker 4: Records and he wants me to come now. The guy
Speaker 4: at Blue Mountain Record was a true revolutionary.
Speaker 5: His name is Omar Harris.
Speaker 1: He was very.
Speaker 4: Instrumental in the Brickistan Riots revolutionary and I loved him.
Speaker 1: So brisit in London.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I used to go to school, right, So
Speaker 4: every time I leave school or before I go to school,
Speaker 4: I go by the studio I seen in my car
Speaker 4: key and my bag used to be in front of me.
Speaker 4: But this guy will call me come here, let me
Speaker 4: see a book and take my book back and go
Speaker 4: to my book back, and.
Speaker 5: Shit, I'm like, fuck this guy up.
Speaker 1: He was shaking you down.
Speaker 5: But he liked my he liked my style. I didn't
Speaker 5: know that anyway.
Speaker 4: When there, I went there and the rain was falling,
Speaker 4: and Clementine was in the studio and he was saying
Speaker 4: he was going to paint Hors records, and Omaharris looked
Speaker 4: at Clementary and said, take Bojo with you so we
Speaker 4: can have an experience of what a studio looked like.
Speaker 4: I was sixteen years old. I didn't see what I
Speaker 4: didn't see what a studio looked like yet. But I
Speaker 4: was DJing in the dancer and the microphone, and you
Speaker 4: would never tell. So they took me to the studio.
Speaker 4: When they went to the studio, you know, I saw
Speaker 4: all these guys inside was big fucking chains and ship.
Speaker 4: I became nervous, you know, and I said, hey, who's that?
Speaker 4: That's Little Lenny. Then those days, Little Lennie had the
Speaker 4: biggest song in Jamaica. Gone in a buggy.
Speaker 1: She she she has the gun in a giggy.
Speaker 5: I said, fuck Lenny right there, and who's that?
Speaker 1: That's little curve before a little way. You had little
Speaker 1: Lennie and little Kirk. Okay, he wasn't born anyway. Clementary
Speaker 1: set of Robert French.
Speaker 4: Robert French was a big singer in Jamaica, and he
Speaker 4: invited Clementine to this Clementary set to Robert Frendship, this
Speaker 4: is a DJENR bojo.
Speaker 5: I want you to hear him, and they laughed.
Speaker 1: At my name.
Speaker 5: I can't remember.
Speaker 4: Tony Keyler was the engineer and they said to me, oh,
Speaker 4: this guy finished recording and they said, clement said, you
Speaker 4: want to hear what the sounds like? And Robert Friend
Speaker 4: said yes. So Tony Kelly said to me, go around there.
Speaker 4: You put the headphones on, and when you see that
Speaker 4: red light come on, that's your cue. And I went
Speaker 4: around there and put the headphones on and they turned
Speaker 4: on this red light and that was my cue. And
Speaker 4: I closed my eyes, immerse myself deliver one of the
Speaker 4: best lyrics I know. I had Steward in my cranium.
Speaker 4: When I opened my eyes, the old studio was in
Speaker 4: fucking it was like I'm like they.
Speaker 2: Like it.
Speaker 4: Was it over beat, over a fucking beat. It was
Speaker 4: my first time I ever did one take. I sung
Speaker 4: for three four minutes forty five seconds straight, no stop.
Speaker 4: But in those days, also we are doub plates and
Speaker 4: them plates were live, so you go to the studio
Speaker 4: and the record will be cutting right while you're singing it,
Speaker 4: so you came in no mistake. Is the dop plate
Speaker 4: is three minutes, you got to be singing for three
Speaker 4: minutes with no mistake as you don't get paid. So
Speaker 4: with that mindset, I was able to go inside the
Speaker 4: studio and do the song. It's called Rouleaut for my
Speaker 4: very first song. It was released in Toronto on All Stars. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so that was my first exposure to Pentos. Now, trying
Speaker 4: trying to get back to pentals was difficult. So I
Speaker 4: would leave school every day and I would go by
Speaker 4: sty six slipe en road. No, I would go by
Speaker 4: Technique Record downtown Kingston because my school was downtown and
Speaker 4: were spangled.
Speaker 5: So we'll go up on the Avenue a.
Speaker 4: Week, you know, our year at that and I would
Speaker 4: go to Techniques and mister Winston Riley had two sons,
Speaker 4: Kurt Riley Dana U and a couple of friends like
Speaker 4: Mitch Aansworth.
Speaker 5: We came we're young men.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: And one day I was there and I met this
Speaker 1: guy called Cabletan Wow.
Speaker 4: I was leaning up on the Salvation Army wall and
Speaker 4: I said, this guy coming and went into the record
Speaker 4: shop and he came over and stand up beside me.
Speaker 1: Look cream up and where you come from?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Tell where I'm coming from.
Speaker 4: I was a start rollanti anyway, I saw himself. Yes
Speaker 4: barshat check it out in those they don't pay a
Speaker 4: boss fear and I was jump on the boss and
Speaker 4: beat the boss up. Yeah, you can't charge me at work.
Speaker 4: So I went to Penthos and this guy would not
Speaker 4: let us in, this guy the gate man anyway, you know,
Speaker 4: we keep going back and keep going back, and it
Speaker 4: was a tassel. But then I record a song on
Speaker 4: by by from mister Winston Rally who technique records through
Speaker 4: the downtown car stamming a Daddy, and this song take off.
Speaker 4: Import More was a different province, and there was this
Speaker 4: engineer who worked at Pentos by the name of Stumpy
Speaker 4: who knew about this song and what he was.
Speaker 5: Doing in that part of the island. And he heard
Speaker 5: the house at the gate and he told him to
Speaker 5: let me in.
Speaker 4: But Donovan Dreman wasn't there, and they weren't really having
Speaker 4: it because the gate Man was there. I used to
Speaker 4: spa with some John Glass and one named Jo and
Speaker 4: the Vibe and looked down the gate Man cars, it
Speaker 4: would letter. So I'm looking down with a big stone.
Speaker 1: Oh god, I wasn't very.
Speaker 5: So when the boss, he said, I looked on him
Speaker 5: gate Man.
Speaker 1: They go on to do that.
Speaker 4: Anyway, stompy plee my cars and I go inside there
Speaker 4: and I sing a song for them, man for Dead.
Speaker 4: Met them knowing now seeing the let gun shaft bo's
Speaker 4: up in the infirm my head, and I seen an
Speaker 4: excellent for them named Jackie and Jackson the gun from
Speaker 4: Price big up on the self.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So they gave a year and then they killed like
Speaker 5: my writing style, and.
Speaker 4: I started picking up in the ghetto, coming the ghetto,
Speaker 4: Come pick I up, bring you to the studio. Yeah,
Speaker 4: we're the when I started coming to getto come pick
Speaker 4: I up and take a the various dances and various
Speaker 4: barbecues and various concerts at the MATTERFA, so I could
Speaker 4: warn my skills, you know.
Speaker 5: So that was my first introduction on the printers.
Speaker 4: I still never meet done a Van Germany until about
Speaker 4: six eight months later when you come and near my
Speaker 4: music and the first thing he said was this can
Speaker 4: they put out on his label?
Speaker 1: Look? It was too rough, So we asked him for
Speaker 1: a lable and he gave us a labled boy Kelly.
Speaker 3: And that was it and I was underd Wow, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you have a business with what is it?
Speaker 1: VP? No.
Speaker 5: VP Records is a star.
Speaker 4: Wart in the Germanican community because they're able not only
Speaker 4: to understand the music, but to market it to a
Speaker 4: demographics that.
Speaker 5: Need it and make it reach the masses.
Speaker 4: Now, they've been here for quiet some time and they've
Speaker 4: been doing tremendous work. We had VP, we had super power,
Speaker 4: we have Shelley.
Speaker 1: VP was Chinese people already we VP.
Speaker 5: We had super power, we had Shelley.
Speaker 4: Those are style war distribute as from the you know,
Speaker 4: the music prominent steeple in the United State of America
Speaker 4: with Clinton Lindsey and various Arab David Levy's and various
Speaker 4: other individuals who were able to use their platform to
Speaker 4: move this marginalized music forward.
Speaker 3: Yes, Is that the ultimate goal when you are a
Speaker 3: reggae artist coming from Jamaica? Is Is it not only
Speaker 3: have it a hit record in Jamaica. But what is
Speaker 3: the ultimate goal is get the ultimate market?
Speaker 4: Ultimate goals different, Okay, everyone ultimate goal different.
Speaker 5: If you want to know what is my ultimate I
Speaker 5: can't tell her. What's the next guy? Ultimately, you know
Speaker 5: I can't tell us said my ultimate goal is this music?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love even by my ancestors who are fast
Speaker 4: and gone to be in the grave and turn and
Speaker 4: smile and said, yes, there's someone out there carrying on
Speaker 4: the message.
Speaker 1: No matter.
Speaker 4: You can't sing a bunch of create, but to sing
Speaker 4: something positive for the people at least once Manie Angels smile. Look,
Speaker 4: this is godly music, you know. You know I go
Speaker 4: through some tribulation and it's reggae music. Could identify with it.
Speaker 4: I have played some artword music will have got related
Speaker 4: to my situation at the present moment, and oblifty and
Speaker 4: give me clarity something that speaks to my soul. Now
Speaker 4: everyone different. Someone will find it in soundscape, but no vice.
Speaker 4: But does music and orange drops?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 5: But I take sally and reggae a lot of people.
Speaker 4: Do you know it has not been not the same
Speaker 4: for from because you must admit the fact that we
Speaker 4: are trying to you know what I mean, not similar
Speaker 4: to what is hip hop? And the new generation is
Speaker 4: someone aching leaning to us that you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: We can't we can't knock them because it's what they're
Speaker 4: exposed to. The current generation, Yeah, it's what they're exposed to.
Speaker 4: And if you understand, each generation see things different. We
Speaker 4: have those that in time at least one or two
Speaker 4: of them will come around to the reality that you
Speaker 4: are similating and not originated and created and keeping your
Speaker 4: your original consistency abundant. Because if someone wants to invest
Speaker 4: in our culture and you're going to spend your money
Speaker 4: with a wrap artist and say you want something different,
Speaker 4: why would I send to Jamaica to get someone to
Speaker 4: wrap on my truck. I want someone to speak on
Speaker 4: my truck from Jamaica, or not wrap on my ship.
Speaker 4: I cancerer the Memphish anywhere Los Angeles have someone.
Speaker 1: To wrap on my ship.
Speaker 4: But I said my ship to Dreamanic or someone for
Speaker 4: a difference, because I want an ardcore.
Speaker 5: Feeling, know what I mean?
Speaker 1: This guy in those so I don't know if you
Speaker 1: remember doing being a part of this compilation. I lie
Speaker 1: about that. So you're on this complete. I got this
Speaker 1: when I was in high school. Let me see it
Speaker 1: how it is? And it was introducing dance artists over
Speaker 1: hip hop.
Speaker 4: Yeah, why everything? I get the DM So that's the
Speaker 4: only I have one Nam Boom mod Is and that
Speaker 4: they're my fight. Remember I under my Red Fox, not
Speaker 4: the Runks, Crazy Captain Remo, Remo, I was on Scurve remod.
Speaker 1: This is, this is what it is.
Speaker 4: When you know, I used to perform and build more
Speaker 4: bar room program I used to come to America when
Speaker 4: I have a concert like two, three, four weeks before
Speaker 4: I'm performed with a band called eighteen with Nasty, the greatest.
Speaker 1: Drummer from New York City.
Speaker 2: And you were hearing you were obviously hearing early hip
Speaker 2: hop at that time. Yeah, what was your first impression
Speaker 2: of hip hop and what you thought how you would
Speaker 2: collaborate with it? Now?
Speaker 4: It was fourteen years old. I get my friend upstairs,
Speaker 4: but his mom bought him a boombox.
Speaker 5: And we got exposed to hip hop.
Speaker 4: We're listening to Slick Creck Dogget Fresh the show six minutes,
Speaker 4: six minutes.
Speaker 1: Douget Fresh show on mell My.
Speaker 4: So we grew up on slick. We grew up on
Speaker 4: Doggy Run DMC, you know what I mean, So hip
Speaker 4: always been influential. But then when I start dilving to
Speaker 4: the history of hippa and realized that cool work was
Speaker 4: as a drumming used to make the fusion more palatable,
Speaker 4: that said, Okay, the dynamics makes sense, understand, so we
Speaker 4: embraced it and focus too much rapper.
Speaker 5: I have a couple of rapper friends, you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean, like Fat Jewel, yes, my brother, yeah,
Speaker 1: but no more. I tell you this. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: this on your release.
Speaker 3: Now, remember looking at social media and everyone being so
Speaker 3: happy that you that that you came home like like
Speaker 3: it was a universal love.
Speaker 4: Was paying full moment not only for me, but for
Speaker 4: the entire music fraternity and to all my fans for
Speaker 4: the paying want to apologize to them because I never
Speaker 4: want to see.
Speaker 5: Their cry over me.
Speaker 3: I remember seeing footage of that carcert and I remember
Speaker 3: seeing ladies just saying, man, I just love Boojoo like
Speaker 3: like and I'm just seeing it and then you know,
Speaker 3: you know, how did they do behind the scenes thing
Speaker 3: of you, like the concerts something like that, And I
Speaker 3: just remember the camera's going and people just just expressing
Speaker 3: their love for you. This is the first concert I'm
Speaker 3: talking about. When you came home and I was just like, damn,
Speaker 3: I wondered, did you see that?
Speaker 4: I do chance to see a lot of things, but
Speaker 4: love is just separated, and it's just seprecated because I
Speaker 4: love my people. I love how people, black, white, no matter,
Speaker 4: just as long as you understand the love is love,
Speaker 4: love the color. You know, we've been separated along so
Speaker 4: many lines racial, political right. We've been separated along so
Speaker 4: many lines.
Speaker 5: Everyone knows.
Speaker 4: Don't focused from where them, don't fuck with you know
Speaker 4: what I mean? So I just want the people who
Speaker 4: understand said when I'm on coming found when I don't
Speaker 4: come for Georgia, I come for love your eye. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna come to love your dreadlock with this music. Yeah
Speaker 4: you know I won't say yeah sunk up. Oh they
Speaker 4: stop the fuck and get it right.
Speaker 1: We want you to know.
Speaker 3: Our show is about giving people they flowers while they're around.
Speaker 3: We want to tell you how dope you are. I
Speaker 3: want to tell you how iconic you are. We want
Speaker 3: to give you your flowers face to face.
Speaker 4: Real Listen on next thing, I get some flowers and
Speaker 4: I'm planning so you know, flow flourish them off the growing. Yes,
Speaker 4: but I thank you guys very much.
Speaker 1: Love that's great. So yes, we're gonna play a game
Speaker 1: real quick. Let's Chris tim slam now. If you want
Speaker 1: anybody or any of your friends the standing in as
Speaker 1: a drink drinking game. It's a drinking game.
Speaker 5: I'm on give me, but I'll know you with the water.
Speaker 1: I'll take wan. So he's hold up, we're going to
Speaker 1: look got Yeah, that's from the car for the next
Speaker 1: twenty four hours on Roster. You pull over, so let
Speaker 1: me ask you. Let me ask you. Are you vegan
Speaker 1: or you eat fish and money?
Speaker 5: I'm a fish.
Speaker 1: I kill a fish. Okay, you kill fish?
Speaker 4: I mean likely by fish in our career, Sean. Right now,
Speaker 4: I say ease food fish.
Speaker 3: Because I want to ask you a question. It's my
Speaker 3: friend Roster. He's vegan.
Speaker 5: He's vegan about work for you're still fun?
Speaker 1: Instide I went and kill the fish. Then no, we can't.
Speaker 8: We can't teary trip every now and then. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 8: don't give very much. It is wide all right.
Speaker 1: I don't got don't get no, no, no, you you're
Speaker 1: drinking for all of us. I'm drinking with him, he's
Speaker 1: drinking from me. So did you explain him the rules
Speaker 1: deigned to drive off? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you explained to
Speaker 1: him the rules.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna two choices. You pick one, we don't drink.
Speaker 2: If you say both are neither of the two, you drink,
Speaker 2: we drink. We all come on, let's go and any
Speaker 2: stories anything we mentioned it's about just anything, Jay.
Speaker 1: Z or nas that's our bad mind.
Speaker 3: No, No, it's okay, that's fire Tupac, Bob Marley, Bob times.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't asked that. Questions on our list.
Speaker 3: Yellow Man or Ninja Man, Yeah, love the King okay,
Speaker 3: Biggie or d m X bote Jesus okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: Spot right there.
Speaker 5: Peace to both, that's a good one.
Speaker 1: Shop Ranks or cudding rsh Caros want to rock him?
Speaker 4: Carris Wine can Okay, I'm going Carross Wine and put
Speaker 4: some powerful world Callde his work speak for himself being
Speaker 4: a man or bounty killer, No, no, mercy, no, no,
Speaker 4: get me going thirsty on a medium Percy.
Speaker 1: You know I just answered, what did I say? Bounty killer?
Speaker 1: It's the voice. Any stories though, you got, you got
Speaker 1: bounty stories for.
Speaker 4: Then no, Radley, Priceless is the best, you know real.
Speaker 4: I call him priceless because he's riding the rice. But
Speaker 4: there's no price on such an individual. He's priceless, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. That's my story, and it's the best.
Speaker 4: Red Dragon or Sanchez, No Sanchez and Red Dragon is
Speaker 4: two different personalities.
Speaker 5: One is a single, one is a DJ.
Speaker 4: So the dichotomy, you have to choose Sanchez in a
Speaker 4: singer category and Red Dragon a DJ category.
Speaker 5: So in this particular stage, I choose both.
Speaker 2: Take it, take a drink that made it up, Burning
Speaker 2: spears of the techniques, Burning.
Speaker 4: Spear, he's still active. Techniques have retired. M hmm, you're
Speaker 4: still doing the work a labor of love.
Speaker 1: Public Enemy or dead press both Public enemy Malcolm X
Speaker 1: or Marcus Goffy, Marcus.
Speaker 5: Giavi Marcaus Govey, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: The refuse to come to get a with Malcolm with
Speaker 4: Marcus ga sharing the same idea that gender.
Speaker 1: I tried to reilroad him in this Blood Marks Jamaican. Correct, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the last railroad him.
Speaker 5: One of them tried from the na A CP.
Speaker 4: Come right, we know what it is street and I
Speaker 4: can't fool I don't know what about black people? They
Speaker 4: all what about black people in America? The other one
Speaker 4: of the main reason why we did not come together
Speaker 4: to be bigger than me, It was because they were
Speaker 4: parties and and infiltrated by old side forces with outside
Speaker 4: agenda to fight against the swap back doctrine as they
Speaker 4: call the Marcus swap back doctor. Yeah, but this philosophy
Speaker 4: and opinion shines true even to this day.
Speaker 1: Yeah theirs, Yes, Wow, what is that? It's secret message?
Speaker 2: Gregory Isaac or Peter Tosh both, Oh my god, brothers.
Speaker 2: You know Greg, we share the same birthday, right, same birthday.
Speaker 2: Super Cat or shine Head, super card.
Speaker 1: Man. Shoutout super cat Man, regg or Dance both a fan.
Speaker 5: You know it's too great. It's too great. Medium of expression.
Speaker 3: Lady Saw or Patra both okay because they both represent
Speaker 3: two different era and the both different nomenal stuff for
Speaker 3: their generations.
Speaker 4: Patra was the breaking point to show the world our
Speaker 4: female ars were capable, and Ladies Saw is a persion
Speaker 4: the representation of what they can represent themselves.
Speaker 1: As both dope too and both spectaculating their own way.
Speaker 1: Yea or Lauren Hill, both drink. He's making this drink.
Speaker 1: I think you're drinking bitters though you're tricking the crowd.
Speaker 1: Welcome to wait. But by the way, bitteress is very strong.
Speaker 1: You get drink, drink Champion and water. That's fact. Okay.
Speaker 1: Shutters or Third World Cup. Two different dynamics.
Speaker 4: One depict an era which I don't to forget, and
Speaker 4: the other depicer.
Speaker 5: Era, which I embrace.
Speaker 4: Okay, So turn a cop I mean, dance all queen, right,
Speaker 4: dance all queen picks an era where it's just fun
Speaker 4: show you and Shutters right, dance a queen the quicker
Speaker 4: era when the music is growing, budding and it shows
Speaker 4: you what any results of what it comes out to be.
Speaker 4: In Shutters, we see a culture, a Breman gun culture
Speaker 4: which is on the horizon and we all know where
Speaker 4: that end up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now I am on.
Speaker 5: When it come to Jamican movie, I like moving Mecca. Laugh.
Speaker 4: Come my people, funny and dramatic, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: If I get them serious, they will be. But if
Speaker 4: I asked something on the big screen, I want to
Speaker 4: stare a blood laugh where I know this is Johnny.
Speaker 5: I can't I can do that. I cannot say that
Speaker 5: you know, so we would do something I want.
Speaker 4: I don't want brutalities everywhere and people have been fed
Speaker 4: too much trauma.
Speaker 5: I don't like it.
Speaker 1: And you don't like those phones neither. You said you
Speaker 1: don't trust.
Speaker 4: No, I'm un used it in our room and because
Speaker 4: we're not come to the room. If you don't have
Speaker 4: a phone, it's I guess and alone.
Speaker 1: I thought that was crazy. Trust trust.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll come back to that, okay. Sean Paul or
Speaker 4: Shaggy both to different even to different representations. I'm Shaggy.
Speaker 4: This is something that we are paying homage because it broke, Yes,
Speaker 4: and it wasn't whole, and it wasn't him.
Speaker 5: It wasn't And Sean, you know, he's still continued doing stuff.
Speaker 4: And I mean Sean has people, and they're both great
Speaker 4: and both talented, and that would means for its.
Speaker 1: No cap Yes, yes, they both go to the like
Speaker 1: you're making karate class. Give it up, Shaggy the drink
Speaker 1: champces at.
Speaker 5: I do not disrespect my lass. No do I speak.
Speaker 4: Don't speakable anyone back behind back, you know, as a principle, man, guy,
Speaker 4: I tried that they will get funk up. No, no, no,
Speaker 4: so I tried that I want know, I want him
Speaker 4: that I'm on You know I speak truth. Whatever I
Speaker 4: say is I'm an opinion. You are a stand It's
Speaker 4: not a general consensus. You know it's not the agent opinion.
Speaker 4: And choose who to buy.
Speaker 2: So leave me with mine, Chris, Okay, you in the
Speaker 2: next one, sister Nancy or Papa Son?
Speaker 5: Oh, two different presentation, two different era.
Speaker 1: Tchoose both? Okay, he wants to dream. No, Rod, you're
Speaker 1: going too fast.
Speaker 4: My Steve Maley know you're talking about run doesn't sing
Speaker 4: as opposed to Stephen will sing.
Speaker 1: So please, I can't compare the father with the son. Okay.
Speaker 4: And Stephen is like Damian's daddy, his brother musically speaking,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. We watch him grow, we
Speaker 4: help him grow and help him mooning skill. So I
Speaker 4: would choose both because you know one is it?
Speaker 2: One?
Speaker 1: Is it? One is the process? After there that I
Speaker 1: got one that's not on, Go ahead, go for it. Bro.
Speaker 1: Would you then mention either one of these guys? I
Speaker 1: just want to know Garnet Silk or Tennis saw Well
Speaker 1: now to.
Speaker 4: The French genres of music, because ghan is Silk is
Speaker 4: more spiritually aligned and spiritually you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Santa and Tennis sing songs that we can relate to.
Speaker 4: However, we didn't get enough of Tennasa to make a
Speaker 4: fear comparison, so I choose both.
Speaker 1: Of course, he's about he answered everything genius. It's like
Speaker 1: a genius.
Speaker 4: You think he's gonna say one of them, Well, you
Speaker 4: know our fearness and honesty if we've gotten more of Tennis.
Speaker 5: His life was cut short in Texas.
Speaker 4: Yes, but what we saw we love and in stated
Speaker 4: just like nitty Gritty, Nitty Gritty gave us somewhere. You
Speaker 4: guys know, if a guy called nitty gritty right, let.
Speaker 1: Them come corby the she boomed.
Speaker 4: So those guys they sung some songs that we wanted more,
Speaker 4: but we just didn't get enough. So it's unfear for
Speaker 4: me to make a correlation between him and dry an
Speaker 4: inference with Ghan and Silk, who has done so much records,
Speaker 4: and it's present even this to this moment in a
Speaker 4: psychic weigh in Wonder or Garnet Silk. No, I have
Speaker 4: a choose boat because we want to No, No, we
Speaker 4: know we know that different kind of single. We know
Speaker 4: you just said that, but we want we can still
Speaker 4: address it. We want that is a girls I'm singer.
Speaker 4: Singer ye Ghana says battle line really just girls, and
Speaker 4: so it's to different singer rasta reality and reality of them.
Speaker 3: I choose I got a song away in one of
Speaker 3: the and lexus and we shouted in Tavoy gardens, are
Speaker 3: you serious?
Speaker 1: One of the most scariust days about life. But you
Speaker 1: know it was crazy. You know, my island is so nice.
Speaker 1: We name me twice Jamaica, Jamaica. That's just okay, bears
Speaker 1: hermon or Junior read.
Speaker 4: No comparison to the French genre of music, and I
Speaker 4: chose both because both I've done exemplary, will work, Junior reed.
Speaker 4: We grew up on from the Black You Black You
Speaker 4: huru Hera after Michael Rose Docky Simpson and uh what's
Speaker 4: the name? You know, so we remember that and they
Speaker 4: remember the impact of the One Blood to unify us
Speaker 4: all black people all across America, Jamaica and the diaspora.
Speaker 4: And you know it's two different comparisons. Also, remember mister
Speaker 4: mister b samon Od the Boss as you call him
Speaker 4: and refer to him as someone who has not only
Speaker 4: been a mentor to me, but a mentor to anyone
Speaker 4: who desired to enter the field of music. And it's
Speaker 4: still consistent, still making music and still able to be
Speaker 4: a guide rail to us because he's still alive. Is
Speaker 4: respect to me. I can't put me in no category.
Speaker 4: So this is one of the categories. We are going
Speaker 4: to just say that Juniery is a great artist, tremendous,
Speaker 4: super whatever, but please put mister Almond in a different category.
Speaker 5: Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you who do you like more,
Speaker 3: performing the record or making the making the record?
Speaker 1: Make I would have you perform.
Speaker 5: Making record is where I enjoy it before you do.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, I'm trying to take okay.
Speaker 4: So that's where I really have my phone, so then
Speaker 4: I can have an idea of what you're going to enjoy,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So like before I really
Speaker 4: record a song and someone said, what's your favorite song,
Speaker 4: I can't tell you because I have recorded it yet,
Speaker 4: So until the is gone, it's no longer my favorite.
Speaker 4: But I have to live with my music for a
Speaker 4: little bit, and I love my music. So when you
Speaker 4: get it, you I mean, sometimes I watch to see
Speaker 4: the lines that people react to because those are the
Speaker 4: lines that really get me cracking up. So really and
Speaker 4: truly recording to me, and then recording is also where
Speaker 4: I spend a lot of time because I believe in
Speaker 4: perfection and I like to make my mistakes there because
Speaker 4: I can fix it right there.
Speaker 1: That's the next one. Nicodemus or Tennis saw a boat.
Speaker 4: Two different But Tennis is a singer and Nicode must
Speaker 4: It's like the Godfather. He was the first one to
Speaker 4: tell us or to settle in the middle after reading
Speaker 4: I mean not peop don't understand that, but those.
Speaker 1: Who do do right.
Speaker 3: It's the last one of great time of slam Nuga.
Speaker 3: Get back to the interview. Loyalty or respect?
Speaker 4: Hmm, loyalty you know, respect wings and people. People drift
Speaker 4: in terms of food, their respect. Respect sometimes come because
Speaker 4: of what your own, where you live, what you value.
Speaker 4: But if someone is a lawyer, their lawyer forever. And
Speaker 4: if you should take up your phone and you can't
Speaker 4: call none of those numbers after three a m. And
Speaker 4: the answer you have a problem.
Speaker 1: I have a serious problem. Both big ship never stops
Speaker 1: saying put my bottom away.
Speaker 4: Big ship never stops saying two differential to ask for
Speaker 4: two influential individuals who met tremendous music. You know what
Speaker 4: I mean in the world love and review of their work.
Speaker 4: You know, I hope this questionnaire is not aimed to pit.
Speaker 5: Us at each other.
Speaker 4: No, it will never work in that sense, because you're
Speaker 4: asking me about people of metrementdous contributions. I mean, we
Speaker 4: are created equal equally, but we're not equally appointed, thank you.
Speaker 2: No, we bring up these names out of respect for
Speaker 2: everybody involved, just to bring equally.
Speaker 4: But an equally appointed and for each one's appointment that
Speaker 4: you respect.
Speaker 1: That's hard, that's hard. I brought I have. I have
Speaker 1: a bunch of records.
Speaker 2: Today I can only find one out of my steps
Speaker 2: the place untold Stories.
Speaker 1: Operational Willy no operational? Will now tell me I got
Speaker 1: the boot leg man, No, no, no, no.
Speaker 4: So if you look at this label, you will see
Speaker 4: like this is like someone we're in a condom, right,
Speaker 4: you look at it properly?
Speaker 1: Oh ship? Yeah? For all these years, so operational WILLI.
Speaker 4: I was sitting on a plane going to trainer and
Speaker 4: I was inspired to write a song called Ragamuffin. Don't
Speaker 4: be silly put a robot anial?
Speaker 1: WILLI?
Speaker 4: In those days was on the horizon in Jamaica, but
Speaker 4: there was a stigma attached to it, and there were
Speaker 4: kids bound with a's and they will be abandoned, and
Speaker 4: there was this aspect that was taking care of them.
Speaker 4: And we became instrumental in making sure these kids got everything.
Speaker 4: Their live span is very short and we make it
Speaker 4: sure that they have everything that they needed in that time.
Speaker 5: And this was the Operation Willi Foundation.
Speaker 1: Wow, So the record's raising money for that, Yes, the label.
Speaker 4: I created the label and Operation will was on this
Speaker 4: label and also place other songs on this label and
Speaker 4: the process go directly. I had to put money from
Speaker 4: my pocket into it because you know records, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. So seeing that you just brought me
Speaker 4: back to some of the works that we have done
Speaker 4: in the past.
Speaker 9: So Operation really put a condom on you. Willly operation
Speaker 9: with Roga Mophy. Don't be silly, mayby Roe Pan Willi.
Speaker 9: He is on go Ron and we don't want to
Speaker 9: catch it. Rude boy, don't be silly. Roll by Pania Willi.
Speaker 9: He is on Goran and we're.
Speaker 1: Doing what you got seventeen kids.
Speaker 5: Of course, of course I.
Speaker 1: Listen. I've got sixteen sisters. I was listening them no
Speaker 1: Operation will Friend.
Speaker 5: Mission.
Speaker 1: So you got one of the.
Speaker 3: Most interesting nicknames besides Bouje. Well yeah, now that's from
Speaker 3: the Smurfs.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was given to me by weighing one down. Frank
Speaker 4: is like, because growing up I was I was a
Speaker 4: trouble maker. I was a rude boy and I take
Speaker 4: talk from me and and I just do it.
Speaker 1: And Doc was a the foul dude in the smirk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they said they have to eat the Smurs.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I'm cocar spurs look blue people and so
Speaker 4: so when they named you that, did you like it?
Speaker 5: You know, Jamaica, if you don't want a name to
Speaker 5: be stick on you in Jamaica, like it.
Speaker 4: You gotta like it because if they resented it's yours.
Speaker 1: That's a mistake. I mean.
Speaker 5: But over time, over time they keep.
Speaker 3: Calling me, it doesn't and especially for people who didn't
Speaker 3: see the Spurs, who.
Speaker 1: Doesn't know that that's an evil character. That just sounds
Speaker 1: like a very unique name, like you ain't gonna hear
Speaker 1: nobody else say that.
Speaker 10: Yeah, well listen smith Brook Okay, sorry, no, no, it's
Speaker 10: all good, so good.
Speaker 1: It's a revolution different.
Speaker 3: And I come from but in one year, you broke
Speaker 3: Bob Marley's record for the most number one.
Speaker 4: Don't hear them say all the time, but act like
Speaker 4: and I supposed to be prod that's something.
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Listen, let's be realistic. I am coming from an era.
Speaker 4: We're a record. What's that record?
Speaker 5: M hm?
Speaker 1: And this said record?
Speaker 5: What's so my record?
Speaker 1: Five?
Speaker 4: I'm in the mile a seven dollars six dollars, five dollars,
Speaker 4: four dollar, three dollars.
Speaker 1: Two that's all it grows and come fum.
Speaker 4: Then I mana come to a time where I have
Speaker 4: no more bumba cloud record. I can find myself for
Speaker 4: a city. I'manna accept it. I'm still hear my music.
Speaker 5: And I'm self all sting to represent my ownership after music.
Speaker 5: When I listen to.
Speaker 1: Then, I man go sleep and wake up yourselmon.
Speaker 4: Now, no record, no CD, but music not a blood
Speaker 4: cloud cloud.
Speaker 1: This is a cloud.
Speaker 4: I got from stage of owning my music. I can
Speaker 4: play every time I blood cloud want. If I have
Speaker 4: my full non blood cloud subscribe.
Speaker 1: Yeah my music when it is something to me and
Speaker 1: we all sit and laugh, and I think it's a
Speaker 1: blood cloud. Go back with musical and I take my music.
Speaker 4: I'm putting out a cloud and I can't get my
Speaker 4: music physical player of my music. When I want your
Speaker 4: my music, get your pay and nothing pay music please, right,
Speaker 4: and then a class pennies to make this blood clot
Speaker 4: right your trick, Quill, and the major players who supposed
Speaker 4: to speak of about this trick with and marry your
Speaker 4: blood cloud robbery and still intellectual property are silent.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: I want to carry a box some blood cloud record
Speaker 4: of the stairs when don't carry a phone full of
Speaker 4: blood if I don't pay my formula the music enough.
Speaker 1: This bout it. Don't pay a four but don't get
Speaker 1: no music. But I do want to preserve this record.
Speaker 1: One person, one person who stepped up, and I love
Speaker 1: what you just said.
Speaker 3: One person stepped up and started talking about the robbery
Speaker 3: of the streaming. Was a person you got a record
Speaker 3: with Snoop Dogg. Snoop Dogg stepped up and said, this
Speaker 3: is highway robbery. How the hell can you download you know,
Speaker 3: a billion streams and then give me ten thousand dollars
Speaker 3: meanwhile the record label.
Speaker 1: So you think more people should step up like that?
Speaker 1: Absolutely something that's happened to us. We'll moved from in Parao.
Speaker 4: Okay, our distribution where we got a physical product. You know,
Speaker 4: I understand you think it's too bulky in the world
Speaker 4: is moving, and but there are people like us. I
Speaker 4: want my music, I want my record, I want to
Speaker 4: put my record. I want to hear the nigga go s.
Speaker 4: It means something to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The other day I was in my recording studio and
Speaker 4: this young lady was doing a final papers at the
Speaker 4: Universe of the West Indies and she wanted to do
Speaker 4: something on me, and I said, okay, I welcome, welcomed
Speaker 4: her and she came in the studio and was talking
Speaker 4: along the line of music and she has never seen
Speaker 4: a phone before, crazy and I had to take up
Speaker 4: a phono that I'm sure. So you realize that there's
Speaker 4: a generation that doesn't know what a.
Speaker 1: Vinyl looks like?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: Are some aspects of that generation and doesn't know what
Speaker 4: I'm vinyl and how it is played and how or
Speaker 4: you received sown to a piece of plastic. So are
Speaker 4: we moving so far ahead that we're taking the things
Speaker 4: that make us real humans away from us?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: And what DJ Quick said that that the analog recording,
Speaker 2: which I think transfers onto vinyl and tape. There's an
Speaker 2: energy transfer there that's there. You can't get that from
Speaker 2: the digital world, right Never.
Speaker 3: No, I like what you said earlier. It is like
Speaker 3: people wanted that physical, the physical thing. They wanted to
Speaker 3: look at the producers, they wanted to be proud of
Speaker 3: them product.
Speaker 4: Remember those days when you hit a record in your
Speaker 4: robit on your pants, did the plastic You rub the
Speaker 4: front and the plastics open like this, and you go
Speaker 4: to your record.
Speaker 1: You want to put your ship back in the sleeve
Speaker 1: so good and put them out down the jackets so good,
Speaker 1: and you read the credits.
Speaker 4: Oh and when the music is plaining, can take all
Speaker 4: your sleeve and read around.
Speaker 1: Those days. Then you know who the an R was.
Speaker 1: You know who the label was given from from.
Speaker 4: From from From a financial standpoint, I don't think the
Speaker 4: young cats today will be able to get their life
Speaker 4: in order based on what they're being paid from the
Speaker 4: current mode of income.
Speaker 5: It's not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen. So we're
Speaker 5: being robbed.
Speaker 4: And when industry is being raped, somebody's getting that cash.
Speaker 4: But nobody don't want to have about it. You come
Speaker 4: from the island. You see the industry go mature, yet
Speaker 4: the artists who made the industries are sideline.
Speaker 1: You can't be like that. We need to see her play, right,
Speaker 1: let me change the subject for a second. M hm.
Speaker 3: Back in the days, it was a group called Born Jamerican, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: and it was it set off this whole thing Jamaicans.
Speaker 3: That's Jamaican, but they're from America, and like like for us,
Speaker 3: I'm half Puerto Rican and Puerto Ricans from the island
Speaker 3: don't really fuck with Puerto Ricans from New York, Is
Speaker 3: it is?
Speaker 4: It?
Speaker 1: Is it like that with Jamaicans and and boring Americans?
Speaker 1: I'm asking?
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, you know, we Jamiaicans, we're port of our
Speaker 4: heritage and we're proud of all over black bearers. You know,
Speaker 4: once you have a Jamaican blood, no matter what, you're
Speaker 4: a jamia Gan.
Speaker 1: But no matter where in the world, the gold Jamakan
Speaker 1: and you know you're born in Japan and you Jamaica.
Speaker 4: Jamaican father, Japanese money Jamaican of course. But you find
Speaker 4: that we're very protective for our culture. You can't blame us.
Speaker 4: So when people or burst, you know, you must realize
Speaker 4: that this is one of the most abuse cultures Jamaican artists,
Speaker 4: and you know this story the powers that we don't
Speaker 4: respect us many underpay us.
Speaker 5: She's just like, you know what I mean, you know this.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that till you said it.
Speaker 4: Though, when we step out, if you don't step out
Speaker 4: and search yourself so this motherfuckers can know who you're
Speaker 4: dealing with, you're going to subject yourself to that. So
Speaker 4: we have to always know what we're dealing with and
Speaker 4: let them know what they are dealing with. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: it's just that I'm sure my rapper brothers face the
Speaker 4: same thing. They have to step up and they even
Speaker 4: know that they know what they work and know their value.
Speaker 4: So you don't respect It's up to you. But if
Speaker 4: you want to do business with us, you've got to
Speaker 4: respect it.
Speaker 3: You know something That's that's was interesting when I heard you.
Speaker 3: He was doing another interview, and you was like, I
Speaker 3: believe you called reggaeto culture votes.
Speaker 1: I believe you said that. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't want to misquoat you. I don't want to
Speaker 3: miss calling right, But then you said you said, I
Speaker 3: believe it's what you said. You can correct me, and
Speaker 3: you said, it's like they only work with each other,
Speaker 3: like they don't work with outside in the team.
Speaker 4: When I was nineteen years old, right, no matter sixteen
Speaker 4: years old, I remember I remember a son called Boom
Speaker 4: Boom Boom Ele from Panamanian. This show us love because
Speaker 4: I went there and I met Kafu Bantan who was
Speaker 4: the next four runner who you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: But then the music went to Puerto Rico.
Speaker 4: Then the music went in all boat and all of
Speaker 4: a sudden, it's like you created this ship, then you
Speaker 4: want to take the white. I think there's so many
Speaker 4: last suits currently from Jamaican producers with reggaeton. There's a
Speaker 4: major lawsuits right now Stelli and Clevie Stelli and Cleviey's
Speaker 4: one of our biggest producers, you understand.
Speaker 5: And these guys have been because.
Speaker 1: It's the same taken. They're taken right the same.
Speaker 4: Ship because they think we're from the Caribbean and there's
Speaker 4: no intellectual property controler.
Speaker 1: We have no idea what we're doing.
Speaker 5: But it's a new Dane gotam the Batman's st alive.
Speaker 3: And then Afrobs does doesn't raise no laws, touit like that.
Speaker 3: But you're saying that they just it wasn't the love
Speaker 3: is not there, like.
Speaker 5: We should have a more tighter relationship with even Listen.
Speaker 1: I agree with everything.
Speaker 4: When Nelson Mandela was locked up in South Africa, it
Speaker 4: was a vice Africaco free. In terms of the music,
Speaker 4: it was weii weii Mandyla free soon Africa. Jamia cansin
Speaker 4: consistently making the world a weird about African flight.
Speaker 5: Ethiopia, you name it Angola. We name our readying the
Speaker 5: mp l A.
Speaker 4: The MPLA movement was from Angola, the liberation struggle in Angola. Okay,
Speaker 4: we named Riadim Shankai shek based upon Shanki Sheeck fleeing
Speaker 4: from mainland China to what is now called Taiwan, which
Speaker 4: is family farm Mosta.
Speaker 5: We understand. So we are integral and world affairs and
Speaker 5: our music speak to the demographics of the globe.
Speaker 4: Well, so when we you know African brothers and sisters
Speaker 4: doing music that they can identify with, but do not
Speaker 4: hear nothing to free Africa, the free the minds of
Speaker 4: African we are concerned, all right, because if we're in
Speaker 4: Jamaica and we are singing about sexuality, and violence, and
Speaker 4: they can say to us, my brothers in Jamaica, we
Speaker 4: remember when you use to speak to us.
Speaker 5: From your heart.
Speaker 4: No, you're speaking to us on your lips, and we
Speaker 4: have to pull ourselves up by the bootstop. Then we
Speaker 4: must be able to speak to our brothers across the
Speaker 4: pond and say, my brothers, if we're lacking, pull us up.
Speaker 1: You know that's blood club. That's deep because you know.
Speaker 3: Says like you said, handles boom boom boom, mommy, mommy, mommy,
Speaker 3: And then I've seen this.
Speaker 1: It's the same rhythm.
Speaker 3: I always heard this is me, this is this is me,
Speaker 3: me being a little bit in that section. Always heard
Speaker 3: them show love to shop. I heard them show show
Speaker 3: love to you and show love to other people's soul.
Speaker 3: But when you said I think you said this, it's like,
Speaker 3: but it didn't work with us, and I was just like, damn,
Speaker 3: I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that didn't. So did you have some
Speaker 1: heeral no? No, you heeral no, and you go along
Speaker 1: the list.
Speaker 5: The answer is no, No. I take the equation.
Speaker 1: What about.
Speaker 5: Name somebody else?
Speaker 4: Well, you know they went into the same charate school, right,
Speaker 4: But so but the reality exists, that's not present. There's
Speaker 4: nothing archives and I'm talking something frivolous. I'm not capping
Speaker 4: your research.
Speaker 1: You're right, you're right.
Speaker 5: So I mean if if someone come from Africa and
Speaker 5: they said Bojo.
Speaker 1: Like I don't.
Speaker 4: I've done some with Sally Kit, I've done some with uh,
Speaker 4: several African collaborations.
Speaker 5: It's good because I want to speak to my people.
Speaker 5: I want to faster that bridge.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: We want to create this simple at the relationship where
Speaker 4: we both understand each other and can relate to each other.
Speaker 4: And the music is the common language of people. It's
Speaker 4: a universal language of all nations.
Speaker 1: Absolutely is That's real, man, that's real. I'm glad, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know what.
Speaker 3: I'm glad to hear you say that because I want
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a lot of people that's gonna watch this,
Speaker 3: and I feel like the situation will be fixed from
Speaker 3: from from your powerful voice, from the voice to Jamaica,
Speaker 3: you know, because because you're the only one I ever
Speaker 3: heard step up and say something. I mean maybe others has,
Speaker 3: but I haven't seen it.
Speaker 4: But that's why I mean it did it mm hmm.
Speaker 4: And I'm not I appreciated in many aspects. But that
Speaker 4: doesn't matter because, like I said, I'm a serve ONTI
Speaker 4: that Ye're not here to serve me.
Speaker 5: I am here to serve you.
Speaker 4: You are the people who make a sacrifice and make
Speaker 4: a decision between buying our bread, buying our shoes, paying
Speaker 4: your rent. I'm coming to see me, and the end
Speaker 4: you put all those things aside and you come to
Speaker 4: see me. I'm here to serve you. I'm here to
Speaker 4: serve your truth. I'm here to serve your music. I'm
Speaker 4: here to serve you in my life. I'm just serving hopefulness.
Speaker 4: Am I perfect? No? Because if your fuck I'll take
Speaker 4: your head off. Okay, but I'm here for you. I'm
Speaker 4: here as your servant. Good I'm not how good servant
Speaker 4: must be serious.
Speaker 1: I'm ready to serve you. What's your favorite place to
Speaker 1: perform besides your makeup? I say Africa. No part of Africa.
Speaker 1: Every part of Africa is a trill.
Speaker 4: Do I bear my soul to the continent from the
Speaker 4: north to the The Nazis on the west, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean?
Speaker 5: Because they don't see a a lot.
Speaker 4: It's far all right. So when I go there after
Speaker 4: traw and give them a good show and sing out
Speaker 4: for them, you know.
Speaker 1: And stay awhile because if you're going to do the
Speaker 1: whole continent. Yeah, well in time.
Speaker 4: But the last time I was there was in Stansted
Speaker 4: Stadium with my good friend mister Lucky Dubaby God bless
Speaker 4: his spirit down. We had a beautiful time. It was
Speaker 4: an amazing moment. I want to see enough love to
Speaker 4: South African and all South Africans.
Speaker 1: Yes, I have been there.
Speaker 4: Great people, man, beautiful place, beautiful people, our people.
Speaker 3: Right now, you just sold out two shows thirty six
Speaker 3: thousand in New York City.
Speaker 1: Got that? I mean? I know you don't call yourself king,
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of people who do call you king.
Speaker 5: That I am a servant of the people and a
Speaker 5: servanti the music.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: You see, let't me break it down to you.
Speaker 4: Yes, I know where in the United States of America
Speaker 4: a lot of people get it twisted. You know, who
Speaker 4: is a not to get caught up in all of that.
Speaker 4: We're just to continue being humble, being touchable, accessible, reachable,
Speaker 4: communicate to the people. And you know, because my people
Speaker 4: are used to people they can identify with and resonate with,
Speaker 4: not people who are alienated from them and people who
Speaker 4: are you know what I mean, there's a buffer between
Speaker 4: them and twenty people pushing them, boxing them, shoving them.
Speaker 5: I don't de do that kind of fuckreak, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean?
Speaker 4: Because the same people at my security and push away
Speaker 4: with the same people that make sure I can't pay right.
Speaker 4: So you know, the moment you realize that, humble yourself
Speaker 4: that I told you our profession was directed directly Carlo
Speaker 4: by the Fiums as singers and players of instruments, and
Speaker 4: then it's a bartender and then it's a bar tough.
Speaker 5: And didn't see all the part of these things. So
Speaker 5: you know that you're doing something.
Speaker 4: It's easy to have people listening to you know, like
Speaker 4: I said earlier, what it's important to figure out what.
Speaker 5: You have to say to them.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question. Bob Marley movie,
Speaker 1: I love it right.
Speaker 3: There was one part of the movie where he uh,
Speaker 3: he sent to his manager and he was like, yo,
Speaker 3: whenever there's an Africa play, it's not a money play,
Speaker 3: like meaning like he just wants to go to Africa
Speaker 3: whenever they ask for him.
Speaker 1: Is that how you feel about Africa as well?
Speaker 4: Africa is a beautiful place where I have made many
Speaker 4: sacrifices over the years, many many many soccer. The first
Speaker 4: time I go to Africa, I come up to Jamaica
Speaker 4: and have to pay my entire band out of my
Speaker 4: personal pocket. You know, several times it happens to us
Speaker 4: because you know, you give people the benefit of the
Speaker 4: door that they're going to do business, but it never
Speaker 4: materialized that way. But it can't be a money tinkerse
Speaker 4: want someone to go on, the show must go on.
Speaker 4: But nevertheless, we pride ourselves in doing good business, and
Speaker 4: as black people have a bad stigma attached to us
Speaker 4: that we don't do good businesiness. So it's important for
Speaker 4: us to have good agreements and stick to our agreements
Speaker 4: and execute the agreements accordingly. You know, you need good
Speaker 4: for the next brother who comes into the territory to
Speaker 4: do business, who calls me on the phone and say,
Speaker 4: how was your experience? All right, very good, So all
Speaker 4: things are relative.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about bona fide love.
Speaker 4: Bonafi Bonafi Love was originally done by Erald Dunkley and
Speaker 4: then it was done by den Right. It was remade
Speaker 4: Byway No Wonder for the Pintos label. I think it's
Speaker 4: one of the most pivotal recordings memos Away Wonder has
Speaker 4: ever done. But it's a remake from the original.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, Now when we may highlighte for Snoop Dogg,
Speaker 1: who smoked more weed? I don't know. Actually, it seems
Speaker 1: like it was a fun ritter. I was.
Speaker 4: I was in I was in my student Carla Avenue
Speaker 4: and we were speaking on the phone. So I said,
Speaker 4: we were He said, this is in the spaceship you
Speaker 4: call his recording students spaceship. I said, I'm sitting there
Speaker 4: under the tree. So he said, is that a mango tree?
Speaker 4: I said yeah, And we were both smoking. So I
Speaker 4: was on the tree smoking in the spaceship smoking. I
Speaker 4: started So I started singing.
Speaker 1: Highlight and I said, good weed all day and night.
Speaker 1: I said, hey.
Speaker 4: So I went into notes and I started writing it,
Speaker 4: and I said, hey, I'm going to write your partners, well,
Speaker 4: I'm going to write in part to us.
Speaker 5: I wrote, and I sent it to you.
Speaker 1: That's why he did it so much in patful. We
Speaker 1: stayed on the phone and suck it right up. It
Speaker 1: was good man. It was a good day, good vibe.
Speaker 4: And it shows me that it's a true artist because
Speaker 4: it's not many people can do that and dialve into
Speaker 4: their creativity just like that.
Speaker 5: And I mean it's our chemistry as well. Yeah, just
Speaker 5: good good kid, good brethren.
Speaker 1: You know. You know what I love about you? Is
Speaker 1: you a man?
Speaker 3: Can't put you in a box. You can't say you're
Speaker 3: just one way? Like you make feel good music, you
Speaker 3: make you know, club music, you make you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean? You make conscious music? Like how do
Speaker 1: you do that and not be whack? Like?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, because certain people can you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like certain people can go to
Speaker 3: another genre. I don't know, okay answers, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm a free spirited person. You have to be happy.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: My children, my guys think come the funniest father in
Speaker 4: the world, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: I love to laugh. People don't know that side of me.
Speaker 5: I don't show them as side of me. They don't
Speaker 5: need to. But music should come from a happy place.
Speaker 4: So if you're a person who's constantly angry, you're going
Speaker 4: to make angry music. If you're constantly bitter, your music
Speaker 4: will reflect that, you know, I mean, I never go
Speaker 4: to my bed with an argument. I tell you how
Speaker 4: I feel.
Speaker 5: And that's it.
Speaker 4: Tomorrow I'm going to say, no, what's up? Oh this
Speaker 4: is so great the music I would come for a
Speaker 4: pure place. So when when that is intact, you know,
Speaker 4: the inspiration flows, you know.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about I'm saying it wrong because I'm
Speaker 1: I'm dyslexic. Don't be conqueror.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: With Steven Marley when you both performed and you're both
Speaker 3: shed a tear.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, why did you go there? I know
Speaker 1: my ship. I know at first he said you shall
Speaker 1: a tear and then you said he and you're both like.
Speaker 5: You know, I say that was an emotional movement because.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: That relationship and friendship with that birdren coming like a job.
Speaker 4: It's ever in sand.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: The irony is.
Speaker 4: I used to the murders to give mine in the
Speaker 4: morning four o'clock game, used to pick me up on
Speaker 4: my house. I used to go running on the beach
Speaker 4: the first moning Ziggy brat and burta I never owned
Speaker 4: Ziggy again.
Speaker 1: Used to used to run with Ziggy. Then he brung
Speaker 1: Damien you never seen again.
Speaker 4: The first morning Ziggy brings Steve Maley and my a
Speaker 4: pick figure by the beach.
Speaker 1: J Yeah, I never run with Ziggy again.
Speaker 4: And Steve McKey, my best friend at that time until
Speaker 4: this day, we make music together. When the demon wanted
Speaker 4: to enter music, was there making sure that get the
Speaker 4: rudiments of his right. You know, you know that's a
Speaker 4: good friend. That's Bob Madley in this time for all
Speaker 4: of you. But if you do advice, you won't.
Speaker 5: See what.
Speaker 1: Did you have a meat pop? I know you got.
Speaker 4: Once my mother used to sell in the square raft
Speaker 4: Barbecome Square and once a blue Mitsubishi Tony pull up
Speaker 4: and this rasta man was driving and pushing mad and said, mother,
Speaker 4: give me a pack of craving in. And my mother
Speaker 4: gave me the pack of craving in, which is cigarettes.
Speaker 4: And I run across the road and give it to him.
Speaker 4: And by the time I should put it in his
Speaker 4: hand like this, there's a guy in the car, ask
Speaker 4: my mom. And by the time I gave them the
Speaker 4: cigarette like this, the poor community was doing on the car.
Speaker 5: And I says, my first encounter with them, that's a
Speaker 5: little little kid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Bob Marley. Me and your shop about me.
Speaker 2: These are like ordained means.
Speaker 3: You know, My God is good and don't make no mistake,
Speaker 3: God damn it. That's a helly selassie Ethiopia. This is
Speaker 3: what the Rasta cultures correct. So how how did this start?
Speaker 3: He came to Jamaica, Well before.
Speaker 4: We were coming to Jimmy, as the rat is we
Speaker 4: we really it's a construction before leaving Earth, which the
Speaker 4: I don't know as the Bible. And there have been
Speaker 4: many a prophecy, and we know that Ethiopia, the all
Speaker 4: Africa was called eat Euopia before Cyrus African or went
Speaker 4: and conquered. We are carded Carthage and drive Annibal them
Speaker 4: south and then name the continent after himself.
Speaker 5: The content was.
Speaker 4: Called Ethiopia, the world continent, the whole African continent. See,
Speaker 4: and then colonization common and die set the continent and
Speaker 4: put invisible bads her name this shad congo, this that
Speaker 4: that that that. But to the uncolonization of Egypt, assure
Speaker 4: me and touch and her name and me and you
Speaker 4: see him she found that piece. But the dynasty goes
Speaker 4: back as far as Salomon and Sheba and too many
Speaker 4: lake and to Rasmo Konen, you overstand, And then they
Speaker 4: say was from Marasmo Konen. Then all I see and
Speaker 4: then and he's a family with Jesus. Well, I can't
Speaker 4: do religion. The blood line come from the line of Christ.
Speaker 4: The blood line come from the line of Christ.
Speaker 5: So I can't do.
Speaker 1: Lilling age and genealogy.
Speaker 5: That was true. I can't do rast the man ideology.
Speaker 5: So in this time we knew that God don't go
Speaker 5: all outside of us.
Speaker 4: Well inside of us, I have good tarts, I have
Speaker 4: bad tots, right the are the evil tarts and the
Speaker 4: good tots are the godly tarts.
Speaker 5: Yeside, So we see the Christ come any more on
Speaker 5: the earth.
Speaker 4: And I'm sure say, if you have fear, that's because
Speaker 4: the monster see they can move a mountain. We said
Speaker 4: Christ come anymore. I can sure say, just humble yourself.
Speaker 4: I love the lad by God, I love your neighbor,
Speaker 4: and certain things and teach us which you know I
Speaker 4: don't think it's only rested on two pages. So if
Speaker 4: you want to realize and realize what you really taught
Speaker 4: to us, you have to go and do some research.
Speaker 4: But are these things rastafar to realize that a game
Speaker 4: has been played on us.
Speaker 5: We haven't been taught the truth. Something is a miss
Speaker 5: and why everything by.
Speaker 4: This black black male, black road, blackyard, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, black book, black list, and everything that's supposed
Speaker 4: to be blackboard. So we realize that there's a campaign
Speaker 4: against not only a particular collab, which is stupidity, but
Speaker 4: against our people as a nation. Can no matter how
Speaker 4: much success you achieve in this country, you will always
Speaker 4: be norried unless you go play dear ball.
Speaker 5: So I join the karate club.
Speaker 4: So we have to will forward this that brought us
Speaker 4: into a different reality than the one we thought we knew.
Speaker 4: And we said a lot of people coming on putting
Speaker 4: on dress do nothing to understand the premise, the foundation,
Speaker 4: what it means, what represents You've commercialized something that is
Speaker 4: near and dear to others.
Speaker 1: Right, But so let me ask you.
Speaker 3: I just want to reiterate that how did this, this,
Speaker 3: this matter party and culture come up? Did Hell It's
Speaker 3: lasting physically go to Jamaica.
Speaker 4: Yes, he went to Jamaica, of course, Alice last visits
Speaker 4: in Jamaica, visits Jamaica, visited many places in Jamaica. Men
Speaker 4: and Rastaman who many people taught were frivolous in they're
Speaker 4: taught were venerated because the Emperor indeed came to the island.
Speaker 1: Wow Ah and Marcus Garvey.
Speaker 4: Marcus Garvey is from Jamaica, and he traveled to the
Speaker 4: America's and traveled to England to spread the message of
Speaker 4: unification from the u n I A you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, the United Namin Association. Yes, and I have
Speaker 4: had many charters across many continents, even from South America
Speaker 4: to the Americas and expound upon the liberation of the
Speaker 4: black man and woman.
Speaker 3: If you was to say, people like you know leave Jamaica,
Speaker 3: who do you think they go to? More London or US.
Speaker 4: There's an existence, there's an existing training to gravity towards
Speaker 4: United States of America and the migration stream. Much shoulders
Speaker 4: that are are indication, and indicators are showed as is
Speaker 4: a major place for migration.
Speaker 1: How happy was you when they told you you could
Speaker 1: come back to America?
Speaker 4: Well, I was elated because initially I wasn't told I
Speaker 4: we could come back. I was told that I was
Speaker 4: permanently banned. And I said to the person who said that,
Speaker 4: let's see what God will do.
Speaker 1: And you said, let's see what God would do? That
Speaker 1: that's all, yes, And so.
Speaker 3: What happens someone gives you a call and say you
Speaker 3: can come back to it because I heard you was
Speaker 3: torn in Africa and I heard you was torn in
Speaker 3: the Caribbee.
Speaker 4: But actually in all you finished on honesty. I don't
Speaker 4: want to chew anybody on the buss because I'm very tactful.
Speaker 4: But this is my issuance of my visa to travel
Speaker 4: to America. Was was sent to me in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4: And when I went to the embasses the ticket up,
Speaker 4: the lady told me you're permanently band, and I looked
Speaker 4: at her and I said, let's see what God will do.
Speaker 4: And it until twenty twenty three last year, this year
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four that it was really given to me,
Speaker 4: not from that office, but it was given to.
Speaker 1: Me from the higher ups. Come on, you connect the
Speaker 1: goddamn it. I mean, how was that feeling?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: Like the God did it? Was?
Speaker 5: See you know, I'm here to serve my people.
Speaker 4: You see how happy people in New Yorker was not
Speaker 4: only because they saw me, but because they were able
Speaker 4: to receive something that they're longing for.
Speaker 1: You know, what is that?
Speaker 5: A concert?
Speaker 4: To hear music, to feel uplifted, to feel like there
Speaker 4: was no car stolen, No one got robbed. No one
Speaker 4: was mistreated. It was just a night of two nights
Speaker 4: of pure fun, love and entertainment because of good energy,
Speaker 4: good vibe. And you know, they try, like I told you,
Speaker 4: you know, you to destroy. Somebody goes off going, they
Speaker 4: go after the credibility out and then they go for
Speaker 4: the jugular.
Speaker 5: My people did not bite. Many bought in.
Speaker 1: Well. Listen, the vice of the people is the voice
Speaker 1: of God.
Speaker 5: What's his man?
Speaker 1: Yes, after me, let's talk about hills and valleys.
Speaker 4: Oh, free the people to well liberated or truly well liberated.
Speaker 5: That fine spirit you know over hills and valleys.
Speaker 1: How did you? How did you make that? W was
Speaker 1: you inhales and mountain and the valleys?
Speaker 5: Actually I was on tour going through this the Swiss
Speaker 5: Alps and my tour bus.
Speaker 1: Oh that's the just the joint where the snow was
Speaker 1: on top.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was going through some tons. Yeah, on tour
Speaker 5: through the Swiss Alps.
Speaker 4: Because I used to spend three months here tour in
Speaker 4: the Americans, three months touring the European countries are four
Speaker 4: then two in the Caribbean. And that's why I used
Speaker 4: to spend my time and I was an inspiration. I
Speaker 4: received while I was traversed in the earth. How does
Speaker 4: it feel performed for the white people like that? Europe
Speaker 4: very performing. You have to understand that reggae music is
Speaker 4: an international music and you speak a universal language that connected.
Speaker 5: I told you it's the King's music.
Speaker 1: Like my white friend over there, I had to tell
Speaker 1: him stop.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and King music need like this.
Speaker 1: I said, you can't do that.
Speaker 4: It was a need for the people. It doesn't matter
Speaker 4: you're grown and what you gone. Other days when we
Speaker 4: can separate people along their racial adam color lines when
Speaker 4: it come to music, you know much people love Kendrick
Speaker 4: Lamardy and not like us.
Speaker 1: I don't know how we got here.
Speaker 4: And I'm trying to tell you is diverse, So don't
Speaker 4: believe that you I'm under reggae music. There's a demographics
Speaker 4: who's not. And the more people in Europe love reggae
Speaker 4: music than America.
Speaker 5: Full Okay.
Speaker 4: When I when I play a concert in the Haague,
Speaker 4: fore hundred thousand people in Holland Behague, one hundred thousand people.
Speaker 3: Don't get it twisted. Whenever I'm more vacation like there's
Speaker 3: but white people. That's what they playing reggae?
Speaker 4: You know, reggae music. You have to understand also, my
Speaker 4: forefather's cultivated Europe more than America in terms of making
Speaker 4: the music heard and bringing the music to the masses.
Speaker 4: That cultivated Europe a lot more so. Europeans are very
Speaker 4: much deep into reggae music much so.
Speaker 3: And then let's just talk about your relationship with college.
Speaker 3: He was also a person that I've seen campaign you
Speaker 3: so much, like when you when you when you came home.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying the US's home. US is your home too,
Speaker 3: you know, your second home whatever, but he was campaigning
Speaker 3: for you so much.
Speaker 1: How did you develop the relationship. I know your work
Speaker 1: together Back in the days in there was an hurricane
Speaker 1: this shime Miami card.
Speaker 4: And in those days we used to have a whirrows
Speaker 4: and one hundred and seventeenth streets.
Speaker 5: On the courstyard.
Speaker 1: I was walking down the road no after I trying to.
Speaker 4: Find a wish bat and wish by wish bad. So
Speaker 4: we're finding a ready sea Sean. That's how we met
Speaker 4: up with Daddy's enjoy aboard Fox ninety six.
Speaker 5: That's Miss nine.
Speaker 1: Was Lady Terror DJ for a game and.
Speaker 4: A couple of ones and ones well Karli it was
Speaker 4: a part of that, but we eased to have right away.
Speaker 5: Look a vibe. I'm talking skinnical.
Speaker 4: So he used to come to Jerminica but in love
Speaker 4: the music so much that you know, bechwing me beats,
Speaker 4: try this and that, and I'm riding the car with
Speaker 4: him and I'm open. But I realized that you had
Speaker 4: a vision. I said, let's record it, let's make it
Speaker 4: into a dog plate, and we started doing the ship.
Speaker 4: So he used to go to Jamaica to play for
Speaker 4: Fully Loaded. And when he came and saw the reaction
Speaker 4: because in those days, when you do go and get
Speaker 4: a gun salute, it's all gone saloon one. And when
Speaker 4: he saw that, realize that this kid could and then
Speaker 4: he's playing skills. How he did this thing and his
Speaker 4: love for the music not the money, because in this game,
Speaker 4: if you love the music, it loves you back. If
Speaker 4: you love the music, it loves you back. I'm telling you, brother,
Speaker 4: And he loved the music and it loves him. He
Speaker 4: loves him back, as simple as that. So our friendship
Speaker 4: is not based on who the world say he is
Speaker 4: now and who he truly is. And he'll always be
Speaker 4: my brother, always be my friend. It was good heart,
Speaker 4: good spirit, love him family, good kid, and he loves music.
Speaker 4: Most importantly.
Speaker 3: Is there a real place called Holy Mountain? Yeah, in Jamaica,
Speaker 3: wherever you find it, wherever you find it. Brother, Yes,
Speaker 3: well that's real, that's real.
Speaker 1: Oh, Driver, I don't stop at.
Speaker 3: That record had New York City on the motherfucking when
Speaker 3: that ship came on. Driver, that's my part, Like, I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: I said, I heard it.
Speaker 5: It was not so aggressive.
Speaker 11: Drive, don't stop my towel. Have a fantasy, you won't
Speaker 11: get a driver, right, I have.
Speaker 1: A life respected. So but how did you come up
Speaker 1: with that formula? Oh? I had a driver one night
Speaker 1: I have to get to a studio. Was trying to
Speaker 1: down here in Miami. I was leaving from my.
Speaker 4: House in to get to the studio, and I had
Speaker 4: a driver. I'm telling him push its let's go by
Speaker 4: till I got after the studio, I was sinking, Driver.
Speaker 4: So I put my program I was going to do
Speaker 4: on hold and sent to Jamaica on the phone to
Speaker 4: get the rodding from the taxi to make the demo
Speaker 4: and fly home the next day because I knew it
Speaker 4: was a smash.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Do you want to mothers write about anything. Yo, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: I would have never thought that at all. It makes
Speaker 3: a noise for that. That's a holy ship. Okay we
Speaker 3: speak about this yet, Walk like a champion. You know,
Speaker 3: that's the girl's favorite. Such a classic.
Speaker 5: Man, that's the girls. That's the girl's joint right there. Okay,
Speaker 5: that's the girls joint right there.
Speaker 1: Because Finn is gonna do the record over, You're gonna
Speaker 1: do Drink like a champion. Oh yeah, just want to drink. Okay,
Speaker 1: but how you talk about it? But how did you
Speaker 1: make champion?
Speaker 5: So that was a Penthos production.
Speaker 4: I came to the studio one day and there was
Speaker 4: this guy sitting down with a bass on a stool.
Speaker 4: So his name is His name is Leroy Simbly. It's
Speaker 4: a very famous singer from the group called Heptones. But
Speaker 4: he's also a bass player, and he was singing a song.
Speaker 4: I can't remember the song, excuse me, but it really
Speaker 4: was so groovy. And you know, normally, because Pentos was
Speaker 4: my Pentos became my home base. So when you come
Speaker 4: here to work and I came, I wouldn't come out,
Speaker 4: you know, I would just stay here and ulla vibe
Speaker 4: with you to make sure whatever you're doing because in
Speaker 4: those days, Donovan Jerman was like the boss, but it
Speaker 4: was it was so cool. His girl, his man have
Speaker 4: a recording studient is low period to run it. He'll
Speaker 4: come to America and come back like once someone put
Speaker 4: this on at the side and said, let me want
Speaker 4: to make They would have to play what we did
Speaker 4: for everybody, and then he just jump on the plane
Speaker 4: and gone again. So we had the studio, so anybody
Speaker 4: come there and said, Nana McLean from Canada and all
Speaker 4: these people come to the studio and.
Speaker 1: You know, you guys have free rein.
Speaker 5: So yeah, so we were just making music. So I
Speaker 5: was still checking it out and I'm like, so I'm good.
Speaker 1: I like to beat.
Speaker 5: And that's where the inspiration came with just recording.
Speaker 1: So it was nothing but no championship.
Speaker 4: No, there was no championships, more like an inspiration. And
Speaker 4: the music was talking to me and I was just
Speaker 4: talking back to it with a great conversation.
Speaker 3: Yes, you know this, this story is fucking amazing. Man,
Speaker 3: Hold up, i'menormous pronouncing this wrong.
Speaker 1: So what.
Speaker 5: Rider?
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, no bat to rider, don't get it twisted.
Speaker 4: But to rider is a shot a very short shot
Speaker 4: that the lady wears the ladies wears their cheeks.
Speaker 5: Yeah, their ass cheeks are exposed.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So this was a trend back in the time, in
Speaker 4: the early nineties, and it was the coming out for
Speaker 4: the lady back in the time because we're coming from
Speaker 4: an era we're almost fear the cloud. Okay, I mean
Speaker 4: boderline Prutige, fear the cloud, conservative conservative.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So this was also a coming on era where fashion
Speaker 4: and embracing a fashion and trends was becoming more social nouns.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, so so up closer personal even though that's
Speaker 1: a rhythm.
Speaker 4: Right close and personal. Yes, it's a song, yeah, the
Speaker 4: title of a song. Yeah, is that something that's common in.
Speaker 3: The culture is like pretty much everyone rhyming on the
Speaker 3: same beat and making their own version.
Speaker 1: Of a song. Know what what happened was.
Speaker 4: First for for DJ playing the music in the dance,
Speaker 4: all right, the producer now has to put his mind
Speaker 4: think about them. He has to think about them. So
Speaker 4: you put this hot song on this beat, but there's
Speaker 4: only one song. The letter and the guy who's playing
Speaker 4: the music have four songs to keep the juggling going
Speaker 4: as such a dynamic, so we try to give them
Speaker 4: more play.
Speaker 1: So that's particularly four the club.
Speaker 4: Yes, so the guys, because even though when I make music,
Speaker 4: I try to make music that I have three and
Speaker 4: four songs on the beat, so the selector can get
Speaker 4: a grace because when you do, when you go one song,
Speaker 4: sometimes it's difficult for them just play this once and
Speaker 4: then move on to something else. But is this what
Speaker 4: you call a juggling. He can play this, he's play that,
Speaker 4: mix that in and then go you know what I mean, so.
Speaker 1: You make it more.
Speaker 4: But I don't think no one is doing that anymore either.
Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on with that.
Speaker 1: Do you think that like died in in the late nineties.
Speaker 4: No, I mean there's a new trend happening now when
Speaker 4: new innovations are taking place. I mean, let's face it,
Speaker 4: we're not We're not nineteen anymore, we're not twenty anymore.
Speaker 5: Those were nineteen and twenty. Now they're seeing the music
Speaker 5: through different lens.
Speaker 4: So there's a paradigm shift, obviously, So we have to
Speaker 4: hope and pray that they catch the bull by the
Speaker 4: hands and integrate some of the good things that and.
Speaker 2: Literally seeing it through a new lens. Everybody's their phone
Speaker 2: lens absolutely literally.
Speaker 1: So you know when you said you dj' earlier, you
Speaker 1: talking about yeah J no.
Speaker 4: No, the word DJ is always miss come school in America.
Speaker 4: But the guy who played the music is called this
Speaker 4: jock in Jamaica. Say a selector right now, the guy
Speaker 4: who owns allD mic and rap like I do, it's
Speaker 4: called a DJ.
Speaker 1: That's right, and that's the A C T. Can you
Speaker 1: DJ right now?
Speaker 4: I'm on, I'm on dji man you can yeah, man,
Speaker 4: Racca party right now. Y.
Speaker 5: I wonder too. I want the tooth slim. I want
Speaker 5: the kind of over weird. I want the two yo.
Speaker 4: So I've time and put that pone up your nails
Speaker 4: and you up your lap the way you on your movie.
Speaker 4: I told you how many forever and we never quit
Speaker 4: on the minister you forbis. I love it when you
Speaker 4: do it like this in a downsid you're making turn.
Speaker 4: I make it twists with the gym. When I drink
Speaker 4: and ship water them, I drink of water, sip for you,
Speaker 4: give them, get me music nice like this. So the
Speaker 4: next album coming off from Babandannis Carr, I'm not telling
Speaker 4: the titles. Ye can't do that, but it's one hundred
Speaker 4: percent down side. Why I haven't given the massive in
Speaker 4: the dance a music since I came home and you
Speaker 4: know me, then if you know, Gagamel is still the Gagamel.
Speaker 1: I got a bake on the talk yourself happen together
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 3: So if there's anything that you could do in this game,
Speaker 3: do over, if you had one thing to do over,
Speaker 3: what would you do?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 4: If I had wanting to do over out the smart
Speaker 4: that mother, I'm sorry, I wasn't ready.
Speaker 1: No, you know, if I had wanting to do over
Speaker 1: in this game, bro, I'm.
Speaker 4: Serious, I would to make it my earnest, earnest, earnest
Speaker 4: duty to make sure these motherfuckers know their dance all
Speaker 4: this year to stay forever and Reggodness is going to
Speaker 4: leave forever because I didn't think they get the message.
Speaker 4: They didn't get the memo. I put some leaf lifts
Speaker 4: under their door. They didn't read it. And that's one
Speaker 4: of my biggest regrets because I know a lot of
Speaker 4: people right they see this music, they love it, they
Speaker 4: want to get close to it.
Speaker 5: We've never been given the mainstream.
Speaker 1: Hm.
Speaker 4: You never hear us in every rotation unless we're selling
Speaker 4: out singing like we're some guys from Disney.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean. This is gonna come when
Speaker 5: we're gonna have pirate stations.
Speaker 4: And my only regret is that I didn't get another
Speaker 4: first person to get one in America.
Speaker 5: You guys need a pirate station.
Speaker 1: That's that's what you guys started. I was lost started off.
Speaker 5: So talk about regrets, that's what we regret.
Speaker 4: We should have pirate station all among this motherfucker at
Speaker 4: one pirate station, and we knew we could have done
Speaker 4: it because guess what, it's difficult for them to climb
Speaker 4: all these tall buildings to find those antennas.
Speaker 5: Bro, what do you what do you antenna every day?
Speaker 1: That's what DJ RO did on the bus. What do
Speaker 1: you enjoy better? Independent or major label?
Speaker 5: Independent?
Speaker 4: Mone It means I take too long term shit our
Speaker 4: own independent now Also the most money I ever making
Speaker 4: other music business, those when I was independent to gogle
Speaker 4: in music, Yeah, because I didn't have any I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm at one, boss, You understanding those days we have
Speaker 4: mechanical loses where the real des we want selling real records,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, not what we dealing with now,
Speaker 4: but independent there is always good to have more creative control.
Speaker 1: But you can see where your budget is going.
Speaker 4: You have more financial control. Yeah, man, independent records, right,
Speaker 4: goglelel music.
Speaker 3: Music God comes down, It says, Bojo, you got one
Speaker 3: record to save the whole humanity.
Speaker 4: You I am you.
Speaker 3: You gotta make this record, Bojo, and you get one
Speaker 3: feature and one producer. Who is your one feature and
Speaker 3: the one producer.
Speaker 5: For some fun was doing blastphere.
Speaker 1: On the.
Speaker 4: Uh. But when she was my feature in creation, you
Speaker 4: know it's better named Steve who and do a thing
Speaker 4: back in that time?
Speaker 5: Yes, seem fool men.
Speaker 1: That's what we say here do a thing with saying
Speaker 1: that we have stories.
Speaker 5: Do a thing, Carl to be wonderful thing to do?
Speaker 1: Do do? Did you? Uh? What's that song called? You
Speaker 1: guys do not into music. I'm not telling you I'm
Speaker 1: trying to damaging everything you do. Do j teens.
Speaker 4: Don't get it yet, sound like Stevie Bright, You guys
Speaker 4: are so slow. Master blaster guys. So the master Blaster right,
Speaker 4: that's the master Blaster. It's called the Master Blaster right
Speaker 4: by Steve Wanda. It's one of my favorite So you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, no matter what mood I mean, I can
Speaker 4: listen to the master Blaster and there's also this song
Speaker 4: called by this guy from India called Japa Man called
Speaker 4: so it's like a meditation song. And you know Japanman
Speaker 4: uh decided You don't don't You guys don't even know
Speaker 4: from But that's a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful vocal right here. Producer,
Speaker 4: one of my greatest producers have passed away, Bobbie Digital Dixon.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: Is that Donovan Germany is a good producer. You're talking
Speaker 4: local right are you're talking internationally?
Speaker 1: Whatever you want?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Donovan Germany produce and Stephen and Stevie Wan. Now
Speaker 4: that should be something classic, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Crazy? I love that.
Speaker 3: How you picked an artist that's here, but you picked
Speaker 3: the producer that's passed away.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 4: You wanted the producers were wanted to do it with
Speaker 4: has passed away, which is Bobbi Bobbi Digital. So the
Speaker 4: next best producer I know is Donavan Germany who's still alive.
Speaker 4: And we're able to make such a vision materializes. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, I could see.
Speaker 1: This record happened.
Speaker 4: That could happen, definitely, that's gonna happen so because reggae music.
Speaker 4: Stevie One is an ardent love of reggae music. And
Speaker 4: I showed it because they performed with Bob Marley before.
Speaker 5: So we know that he knows.
Speaker 1: Genius and he's a musical, a musical meca. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Roy Eisley on here from the eyes of brother, and
Speaker 3: he said that he saw Stevie One the course in the.
Speaker 1: Street, busy street, and I bet Stevie saw him too,
Speaker 1: said something for that. Jack said he got in the
Speaker 1: elevator with him.
Speaker 4: I was watching TikTok and someone waved on some one
Speaker 4: show and the brother did this, So I'm like, you're winning, bro.
Speaker 3: He said, you got an elevator with no one else, Like,
Speaker 3: first of how you get in the elevator you're blind
Speaker 3: with no one else.
Speaker 1: And then he pressed the thing and he said, I
Speaker 1: see you later on. Man. No, he's photographic memor Man,
Speaker 1: photographic memory, true, is very true. That's what we Let's
Speaker 1: talk about. Ringing along? Why why what's going on that record?
Speaker 1: For that? Forla of a better term, I don't want
Speaker 1: to use the Jamaican accent, but I got to use
Speaker 1: him for this.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, man, ring the alarms.
Speaker 4: Now that rhythm is a phenomenal and that was produced
Speaker 4: by Techniques mister Winston Riley, and that was on the
Speaker 4: Technique label. And the readym is called Stalaga twenty twenty one,
Speaker 4: nineteen twenty No. Starag is like the prison in Russia,
Speaker 4: stalinra Yes, Stalag right. So if you don't understand we
Speaker 4: name rhythms, we call our beats names, right, yeah, we
Speaker 4: call it. We gave her ridyims names. So that beat
Speaker 4: is called a staladder and the start is one of
Speaker 4: the most powerful.
Speaker 5: Do Do Do Do Do Do Do? It's crazy, yeah,
Speaker 5: And that was Tennessa.
Speaker 1: I Records, Yes bring the so.
Speaker 4: So the irony of that song is like I grew
Speaker 4: up listening to Tennessa because it was just such a
Speaker 4: road whar I roll up his pants foot always and
Speaker 4: it's Gyanzi and when he's on stage of the Flashy
Speaker 4: Man and hey, you.
Speaker 5: Know, you know, and then he passed away in Texas.
Speaker 4: And to find myself years later with this track in
Speaker 4: a studio working on it was I couldn't action, I
Speaker 4: couldn't accent on the more than now. It's an amazing
Speaker 4: feat and I'm happy I was able to accomplish that fire.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about Estinay.
Speaker 4: Oh mama, look when you call me now listening. Come
Speaker 4: at a painfull point in my life, when a turning
Speaker 4: point where you know, every ten years a man got
Speaker 4: two changes in I'm life. Yeah, and that was one
Speaker 4: of my ten year changes. We are you know, two
Speaker 4: roles before you pick ach ie kind of thing, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. And the spirit came to me.
Speaker 4: I say, yourself, your servant, this is your role. And
Speaker 4: I was in California. I matter of fact, I was
Speaker 4: staying at the Nikkey Hotel on Las Snega Nico Hotel.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Nikki and Nicole. It was a Japanese street.
Speaker 1: It was a fat burger. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I found two fucking ondred dollars downstairs that place one day, hotel.
Speaker 5: I was walking.
Speaker 1: I don't trust those no, no, no, no no, I
Speaker 1: don't trust those days. But I was eating burgers. I
Speaker 1: was just walking.
Speaker 4: I found two fucking ondred dollars. Roll up first, I
Speaker 4: phone that I'm one in America.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And I came back to the hotel and I was
Speaker 4: inspired the rich man because I was looking through the
Speaker 4: window seeing all this editis in front of the man,
Speaker 4: I was inspired, but that's all I came about.
Speaker 5: Basically, I got tell them more, but.
Speaker 2: I still want to hear the making of this record
Speaker 2: and told stories and told stories.
Speaker 4: Now I was I was working on the project card
Speaker 4: to Shiloh, and we wanted something different.
Speaker 5: So in those days, I used to go to the
Speaker 5: studio in the night. No, I go to the studio
Speaker 5: in the day.
Speaker 4: I used to go to a studio like six o'clock
Speaker 4: and until eight o'clock the next morning, sometime twelve o'clock
Speaker 4: the next day.
Speaker 5: And one night I came.
Speaker 4: I came about eleven o'clock and there was this version
Speaker 4: inside the studio sits't known with his guitar or dread
Speaker 4: locks arrassed them on in some white Beard and I
Speaker 4: said the dnavan was going on. He said, that's Glenn Brownie.
Speaker 4: Won't make a song tonight. Say you want to make
Speaker 4: a song whatever, I said, we're there's some music shots,
Speaker 4: so we're going to make us sound only guitar, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, sound good.
Speaker 5: So he started playing. But I love music and I
Speaker 5: love the guitar, you know.
Speaker 4: So once he started playing with us, it was deer
Speaker 4: until about two o'clock in the night that's what we got.
Speaker 1: Was that the first time that you made a record
Speaker 1: like that?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 1: And did it change anything from that point? Because it
Speaker 1: was different for us? You know?
Speaker 4: That was also my first Beyond that music, I delve
Speaker 4: into production myself, where I produce Easier Road and I
Speaker 4: produce Mighty Dread and I produced Small Acts and I
Speaker 4: produce Rampage.
Speaker 5: And I just start producing.
Speaker 4: But Lantern, right, because I found that there's a direction
Speaker 4: that I have dalving and making this song and working
Speaker 4: with Glenn Browne opened me up to all the possibilities
Speaker 4: that was latent inside of me musically, right, And I
Speaker 4: you know, because I was primarily.
Speaker 1: Dance all it's stripped down, it's so full, so.
Speaker 5: And then you know, yeah, I became more musical, so
Speaker 5: to speak.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you. That's my friend right there
Speaker 1: from Peru, Oh yeah, in Jamaica. Oh yeah. So if
Speaker 1: he goes to Jamaica, where where do you should sell
Speaker 1: him to go?
Speaker 5: What do you what do you interest? What are you interests?
Speaker 5: What is his interest?
Speaker 1: He likes to wrestle, wrestle, he likes if you like
Speaker 1: to wrestle, you're gonna fly past from me. I go
Speaker 1: to a place on Memphis.
Speaker 3: For anybody who never came to Jamaica, what is what
Speaker 3: is some spots that they need Jamaica's experience.
Speaker 4: You got one hundred and five four square miles to traverse,
Speaker 4: you got beaches, you got mountains, you got rainforests, you
Speaker 4: got good cuisine, the best food you can think of,
Speaker 4: lovely hospitality.
Speaker 5: So you got from Kingston to Negro to Alcherio's Montago Bay.
Speaker 5: Those are prime spots.
Speaker 4: Then you have an claps like Portland that you can
Speaker 4: still find a beautiful place and have a great Jamaican experience.
Speaker 5: So I mean I can sell my island all day,
Speaker 5: go and experience that ship for yourself.
Speaker 1: Is it nice part to Kingston? Beautiful? Nice part? It's
Speaker 1: not all gunting? Right?
Speaker 4: Oh no, No, that's a misnomal like yes, please look,
Speaker 4: I'm sure you know when you look at the television
Speaker 4: and show Haiti all the show use young violence. Right
Speaker 4: you have you've been to eighty. You see that eighty
Speaker 4: beautiful part, just like what it did to us with Africa.
Speaker 4: It shows only the represent the dirt road knows beautiful country.
Speaker 5: Just like Jamaica.
Speaker 4: You're going to see a lot of zin fence and
Speaker 4: you're going to hear about the crime. But it's a
Speaker 4: beautiful country. No, you have to understand these things exist everywhere,
Speaker 4: and there's a particular demographic who make profit from selling
Speaker 4: you trauma. Okay, but if you haven't been, excuse me
Speaker 4: to these places. I have the experience for yourself. I'm
Speaker 4: not saying that's our kulture.
Speaker 5: Everywhere.
Speaker 4: There is good and bad everywhere. But you're not going
Speaker 4: for a bad experience. You do not plant to see
Speaker 4: that having a bad experience. You're going for a great experience.
Speaker 4: So your mind is already geared towards having a good time,
Speaker 4: so nothing will interfere with that. You understand that you
Speaker 4: are a sum total of your thoughts. Okay, So that
Speaker 4: being said, Jamaica is entirely beautiful. Now is it totally safe?
Speaker 4: One hundred percent? Nowhere in the world is okay, So
Speaker 4: you'd be mindfully to stay on your six what anywhere
Speaker 4: you go? Yeah, a soldier right gone on the days?
Speaker 4: No man not mana anymore. They want to traveler's guide,
Speaker 4: and I'm up on their phone.
Speaker 1: Last time I went to Jamaica, nowhere had good weed.
Speaker 1: But then they said.
Speaker 3: He just respected Did they say they say, go to
Speaker 3: the case they got the H grade.
Speaker 1: Where did you go on? You baby? Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: like something like that. Did we went to? We went to?
Speaker 1: We went?
Speaker 3: No, well, well Capone went the typically gods at Mountain View.
Speaker 1: Was it I'm saying it right, they found the high grade.
Speaker 4: Listen to me and see that this stigma somehow died
Speaker 4: thoughn as a concerned marijuana in my country, I would
Speaker 4: like to tell myself, and with the advent of the
Speaker 4: marijuana shop popping up, I still think there's an abundance
Speaker 4: of adult depends on when did you go?
Speaker 5: Because what I've seen I've gotten.
Speaker 4: Is the abundance of herb dispenseries that that that sells
Speaker 4: good quality. But I'm an I still don't do commercial
Speaker 4: or by one from the field. To my hand, I
Speaker 4: don't want that nigger guy, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Because a profit doo inspire, all.
Speaker 3: Right, because remember back in the days to have used
Speaker 3: to have black weed, brown weed.
Speaker 5: No, I don't know what a black weed used to
Speaker 5: have in Decca in in in Deca.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, and purple skunk and
Speaker 4: properly he is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that was from the earth.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, screw up from the sun and your grottal
Speaker 4: and this Saniel. Remember those days used to smoke one
Speaker 4: giant all day?
Speaker 1: Yes, I saw smo you know, yeah, yes, bucking doors
Speaker 1: is a smoke one giant for one being and it
Speaker 1: just keeps olden.
Speaker 5: They keep lighting it and it's just feel nice.
Speaker 4: They have commercialized the herbs so much, even the poor
Speaker 4: tendency has been reduced.
Speaker 3: Let me let me tell you, man, I've seen an
Speaker 3: interview with you, and I believe the brother was from Jamaica,
Speaker 3: and he kept saying how you preserved yourself? Meaning like
Speaker 3: you didn't come home looking crazy? You came home looking
Speaker 3: like like you said you was working out three times
Speaker 3: a day. But not only that, it was your style.
Speaker 3: Most people are about, you know, spitting. Most people go
Speaker 3: to jail and then they lose their style, like so
Speaker 3: many people lose it because they're not writing it, not practicing, Like,
Speaker 3: how did you come home and you still sound just
Speaker 3: as good as you used to sound in several cases
Speaker 3: even better.
Speaker 5: You know that place has stopped me.
Speaker 4: One particular thing that when someone does something to you
Speaker 4: that he's deciding to hurt you. And then you know
Speaker 4: in your heart. They're around you. Don't fight with them
Speaker 4: because no one on earth will ever believe you. It's
Speaker 4: all a god came to your innocency. But you can
Speaker 4: give a choice. You can stand that trajectory and steal
Speaker 4: this bitter motherfucker, or you can forgive them and live
Speaker 4: your life. The greatest weapon we have against all our
Speaker 4: adversaries are forgiveness. They don't understand it. They can't see why. Yes,
Speaker 4: they don't know why you're not hungry. They don't know
Speaker 4: why you're not bitter. They don't know why you're not
Speaker 4: traveling that grind, and that drives them mad. So the
Speaker 4: ability to forgive enable us to continue our life and
Speaker 4: the path that our father wants us to continue on.
Speaker 4: The ability to project ourselves outside of the bad circumstances.
Speaker 5: Into good light is what we have. We're in control
Speaker 5: of that, Hm, You are in control of that.
Speaker 4: If you allow them to make you into a monster,
Speaker 4: they willie my chiefs, dear dear desire right, they would
Speaker 4: have won.
Speaker 1: Most people in your position would have got broke down.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm telling you, brother, that's the intent. That's the
Speaker 4: aim of the enemy. Okay, And the only way you
Speaker 4: circumvent that you have to forgive him. We said, father,
Speaker 4: forgive him, not because he know what he did, not
Speaker 4: a bullshit, But you forgiveause they don't know what they did.
Speaker 1: They know what they did, so you did it there.
Speaker 1: I would do my work simple. You forgot to meet
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. No I ah, no, no, Drid. How about Prince?
Speaker 4: No I meet the King Bob No I of course
Speaker 4: I of course, I mean Bobby. I give him my
Speaker 4: cigarette and them care and I don't need to meet
Speaker 4: the Prince.
Speaker 1: I just want to thank you, man. I really want
Speaker 1: to take brother. I want to thank you for all
Speaker 1: these roles that I can plan.
Speaker 2: The tour.
Speaker 1: You say speaking yees so no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I want to drop this thin man.
Speaker 4: So my tour kicks off. My tour is called overcome
Speaker 4: a tour. Why the overcome out. Guys have been through
Speaker 4: a lot, a whole lot, And it was a love
Speaker 4: of the people, love the Almighty God that brought me
Speaker 4: to it for me to be here, sitsing't done right
Speaker 4: now in ninetive America and drink champs.
Speaker 5: You love the people, nor come upon all those days.
Speaker 4: So I would say that we have overcome a lot,
Speaker 4: and this tour exemplifies that spirit of overcoming a lot
Speaker 4: of people. You're going to adversus in your life, and
Speaker 4: if you're an overcomer, come out, come celebrate with me,
Speaker 4: because this is the overcome a.
Speaker 5: Tour coming you away. One show only to miss is
Speaker 5: to this.
Speaker 4: I don't know when you're going to say a next one,
Speaker 4: but right now we're overcoming and I'm coming over, so
Speaker 4: be there.
Speaker 1: No, this is bunch of.
Speaker 4: Bands and alongside Friday, this is a school singer called Friday.
Speaker 5: And I love Friday's music, you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean?
Speaker 4: And I like his presentation and God did project and
Speaker 4: we invited him out and he accepted my invitation to
Speaker 4: be on toward me.
Speaker 5: So Friday is going to be on the road. The
Speaker 5: Bucherband and lngside reach.
Speaker 4: You feeling from Jamaica, giving you some hardcore danceoun music
Speaker 4: and your soul and let's go.
Speaker 5: Let's overcome because I'm coming.
Speaker 3: Like, I just want to say this one more time.
Speaker 3: I said this on your intro, but I truly believe
Speaker 3: you're one of the greatest performers on the planet.
Speaker 5: I try, I might try, like like.
Speaker 1: Listen, I enjoy doing research when I when.
Speaker 3: I do this, Like so I was watching your interviews,
Speaker 3: listening to your music, but when I got start looking
Speaker 3: at your car service, I could not stop. Like I
Speaker 3: just kept looking at how you bring the people and
Speaker 3: like you make people cry, you make people like it's
Speaker 3: just like it's something I've never seen before, Like you
Speaker 3: know what I.
Speaker 4: Mean, how I feel it and from I feel it,
Speaker 4: I want the masters to feel it. Every night is
Speaker 4: not to see. Sometimes you go there. Your spirit is high,
Speaker 4: high high, and sometimes you go there like I was
Speaker 4: in Liman, Costa Rica, and the spirit came to me.
Speaker 4: I said get up and go to the beach. And
Speaker 4: I get up and I went to go to the beach,
Speaker 4: and the security stopped me and said I cannot go
Speaker 4: to the beach right now because they're doing a loading
Speaker 4: and they don't want the people on the beach walking
Speaker 4: into the loading. So I went back to the room
Speaker 4: and then the promoter came to me and said, you
Speaker 4: want to go to the beach. I said yeah. The
Speaker 4: security said they're doing a loading. Let them angling business.
Speaker 4: He said no, I'm gonna come. I'll take you because
Speaker 4: the spirit came to me. I said, you need to
Speaker 4: go to the beach, but this guy stopped me, so
Speaker 4: he come someone or to fulfill that.
Speaker 5: So we went to the beach. While I was standing
Speaker 5: on the beach, I just felt sad. I don't know why,
Speaker 5: so sad. I started walking down the beach and the
Speaker 5: sun came to me saying, I love you, Lord, cous.
Speaker 1: You mercy, never feace.
Speaker 4: I said to the guy was in security, I said,
Speaker 4: you know the song? Let me say yeah, I said,
Speaker 4: I love this song?
Speaker 1: Who sing it?
Speaker 4: So pull it upstart listening to it on the beach
Speaker 4: and I went back to the hotel room. I spoke
Speaker 4: to one of my sons about four o'clock and I
Speaker 4: went on the stage about eight o'clock. While I'm on
Speaker 4: the stage, I just felt, agreed. Feeling came over me
Speaker 4: so much that I was at a crying on the stage.
Speaker 4: Only the coming of the stage. I'm coming to Jamaica.
Speaker 4: I heard that my son died the same night here
Speaker 4: in America. I felt that I felt a piece of
Speaker 4: me left me. I was on the stage, So people
Speaker 4: feel things. And if I can feel that, what can
Speaker 4: the masses in front of me feel? If I am
Speaker 4: being true to myself and my art?
Speaker 5: Mhm.
Speaker 4: So It's like the music shan It is a vessel.
Speaker 4: That embody is something that when I go out there
Speaker 4: and impoort the wine. If wine is coming from a
Speaker 4: dirty vessel, the wine is dirty fullid sediments. But the
Speaker 4: wine is coming from a vessel that's clean or palatable
Speaker 4: one when drink and people go and feed up, lift.
Speaker 5: Inspired filled. Thank you guys for having me here.
Speaker 1: You all right, yeah, holy shit.
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