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Speaker 1: He is drink Champs Motherfucky podcast man. He's a legendary

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Speaker 1: queens rapper. He's agreed as your boy in O r E.

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Speaker 1: He's a Miami hip hop yon there p up as

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Speaker 2: Together they drink it up with some of the biggest players,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: And the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one

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Speaker 3: source for drunk chans mother every day is do ye

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Speaker 3: see listen, It's time for drink Champions, drink up Mother Mother.

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Speaker 1: What a good boy in O R E? What up

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Speaker 1: is d j E f N?

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Speaker 3: This min tepa crazy world podcast makes some And when

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Speaker 3: I tell you we started this show, we wanted to,

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Speaker 3: you know, pay love and pay homage to legends and icons,

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Speaker 3: people that came before us and people that's holding it down.

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Speaker 3: This man right here, I want to say this out front,

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Speaker 3: and I want people to try to challenge me. This

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Speaker 3: man might be the greatest performer.

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Speaker 1: On Earth. Notice I didn't say greatest reggae.

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Speaker 3: Performer or dancehole performer or Jamaican performer. I said one

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Speaker 3: of the greatest performer on Earth. No man wants to

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Speaker 3: go on stage after him. We researched his music and

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Speaker 3: when I tell you, Roster, the man dim right there.

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Speaker 3: We since we've been doing this for eight years, well

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Speaker 3: race one day on someone's music and go research it.

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Speaker 3: Me and Roster Man listen to this man for five

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Speaker 3: days traits. We couldn't stop listening. We couldn't stop because

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Speaker 3: the man, when I listened to the to the that

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Speaker 3: phrase the mandem, he's the mandim.

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Speaker 1: I know that people call him the king.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't like being called the king because he's a

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Speaker 3: humble servant. But I tell you, like this from the people,

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Speaker 3: you are a king to us. You just sold out

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Speaker 3: New York City thirty six thousand two shows, first reggae

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Speaker 3: artist to ever do.

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Speaker 1: That by himself.

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Speaker 3: He also in one year sold more singles than Bob Marley.

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Speaker 3: He is a legend, legend, an icon of an icon.

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Speaker 3: In case you don't know who were talking about, were

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Speaker 3: talking about the one and only. I'm gonna be honest

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Speaker 3: with you.

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Speaker 1: I was so honored. You know what I mean when they.

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Speaker 3: Said that, you know, Bouju is coming here because are are.

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Speaker 3: Our show is about giving people flowers when they're alive,

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Speaker 3: giving people there you know their praises, and you are

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Speaker 3: somebody that you know you deserve this man like you

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Speaker 3: deserve like what you're doing and continue to inspire. But

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Speaker 3: let's talk about when you first came home from jail, right,

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Speaker 3: it was a it was a moment in the airport

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Speaker 3: right where the people rust you, right, and I can

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Speaker 1: People, but you also was a man of privacy.

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Speaker 4: I can tell Yeah, that was a very very very painful, dramatic.

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Speaker 4: So read the moment, you know what, touching the side

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Speaker 4: of JAMAICANFTA, so many tribulations and seeing the massis coordinate

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Speaker 5: You don't want they want to feed like you're doing.

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Speaker 4: You don't appreciate your efforts, you know, giving you a

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Speaker 4: warm welcome home.

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Speaker 5: But we still wanting a man they come of this process.

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Speaker 5: All that was happening a.

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Speaker 4: Lot to impact the Yeah, I came home, Diesel too. Well,

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Speaker 4: I'm under the work, you know. You know I record

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Speaker 4: three times I did wow in those days. I'm around

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So it's a difference. Right.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this is this is a question

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Speaker 3: I've been wanting to ask somebody for years as a Okay,

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Speaker 1: Yeah right. What is the difference between dancehall and reggae? Answer?

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Speaker 4: I was really younger people express themselves. Where will get

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Speaker 4: more sexualized, we get more slangy. Reggae music is where

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Speaker 4: we speak to the soul. Reggae music is what our

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Speaker 4: ancestors and our forefathers left with us to keep us

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Speaker 5: Because this music wasn't given to us by a man.

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Speaker 4: This is music was a divine music sent to an

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Speaker 4: Reggae music was borned by the great Starlos. First we

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Speaker 5: So I see myself as a last last.

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Speaker 4: Of the more econs, you know, reggae music spear who

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Speaker 5: From their minds, and allow them to whine at the

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Speaker 1: It's a great.

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Speaker 3: So let me just tell you, you know, I live

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Speaker 3: and it's two things I like to do.

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Speaker 1: I like to bump reggae music around. They don't get

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Speaker 6: That's it's like they won't but it's it's, it's it's

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Speaker 5: Was that like like I wouldn't say I became. I

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Speaker 4: It was always you can't became Okay, you can't become

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Speaker 4: is what we're supposed to be, and we can't change that. However,

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Speaker 5: Yes, you know. I put the bag in my pocket

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Speaker 5: And I looked down. I said, clod, yeah, clement Ty,

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Speaker 4: It wasn't three days later until I realized how much cut,

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Speaker 4: I knew right there and then it was a spiritual

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Speaker 4: Because back in the days we had a song system

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Speaker 5: And when he played chabarrags.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy because you know, when I was growing up,

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Speaker 4: One was Major Worries. To me, Major Worries was a

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Speaker 1: I got to be about that life basically.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, it's not about anything else.

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Speaker 4: But you have to leave your experience and people see

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Speaker 4: you know that your experience is not far fetched.

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Speaker 5: You didn't create this thing to gain and support.

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Speaker 1: But you you are really, this is you. So we

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Speaker 4: Tie on ranking tie on, you know, you name them.

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Speaker 4: these names Louis lepk, you know what I mean. So

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Speaker 4: basically police brutality, gang warfare.

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean, people trying to kill.

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Speaker 4: You're trying to defend yourself against that, people trying to hustle,

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Speaker 5: It so we dive it.

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Speaker 4: Struggles with life so wrong, so wrong, that struggle of

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Speaker 4: life to make it into somebody. So when the ranking

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Speaker 4: Carli from the tree, that's with a turning point in

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Speaker 4: my life, the show that.

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Speaker 5: I am truly a servant to come to serve the masses.

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Speaker 4: And even to this day when you see each other,

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Speaker 4: I would always remind him of the moment that you

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Speaker 4: call ing this little boy out of a mango tree.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and he never forgot. He never forgot. No

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Speaker 1: shout out to the mango too. So is it true

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Speaker 1: that you had an album released Party s Obs and

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Speaker 1: a Man. Then come knock on the door the mandem

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Speaker 1: I always come for with diamond, but it was Biggie Small. Yeah. Man.

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Speaker 5: So I'm on sit on in a.

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Speaker 4: Ing so ob Virgin come knock and my mo doing

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Speaker 1: He was already Biggie Small he was, No, it was

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Speaker 5: Up and coming. No, I didn't know that song.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know any song of his, but I was,

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Speaker 4: So I wasn't going to be the song of the

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: So I didn't know who he was when he wasn't

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Speaker 4: Never seen him again from that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, goddamn, the word is like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, at least at least you got to see him,

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, when bigg came to Jamaica, he came

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's why he had an accident.

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Speaker 5: And it's the most gun shot he has ever heard

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Speaker 4: Because when he's performing, they was like a shot, Well on,

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Speaker 4: Are two persons we love a d MX DMX and

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Speaker 4: the last person went our lord foreign Jamaica, our island

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Speaker 4: are out was fifty cent.

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Speaker 5: You know many men?

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Speaker 4: Okay they down himself sent fifty cent on the stage

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Speaker 4: and Zeke's yes, sent him and tell him go on

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Speaker 5: Now we're ready for many men. You know he went

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Speaker 1: You know, was Buster Rams your first feature?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because Boster Rhymes used to hang on to them,

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Speaker 4: lose can on them and the boot us to get

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Speaker 5: To get on we used to drive god Mother beat island.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So this is where we do a wiki doc.

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean? But you know what I mean,

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Speaker 5: I really yeah the bust I really would read bad man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I heard that y'all kept going back in

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Speaker 5: Like yeah, because we forget this right.

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Speaker 1: To get it sounds like a session.

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Speaker 3: In the basement and his malls in Long Island and

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Speaker 4: So we drive from seeing a wish fine tonight on Broadway,

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Speaker 1: What, get back to the hood.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So let me ask you, because I I've been

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Speaker 1: You said something that was very interesting.

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Speaker 3: You said, apple beats gives gives props back to to reggae,

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Speaker 1: Do they I heard you say that.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that. I never said that.

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Speaker 4: I said, I think you fucking perhaps back to dan

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Speaker 1: I heard it, bro, Now you really just like I

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Speaker 3: But then then I heard you say because I heard

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Speaker 3: you say apple beast, I thought I heard you say

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Speaker 3: that the apple beast.

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Speaker 1: Like you know, paint just music.

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Speaker 4: Shan out of Africa was fella cute, Yeah, fella cute.

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Speaker 4: Uh lucky do bee from South Africa. We had Sally Kita,

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Speaker 4: we have used to endor, we have Baba bah No.

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Speaker 4: No one wanted to go beyond the pale of what

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Speaker 4: those brothers was doing. I went to Africa in nineteen

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Speaker 4: ninety when and I spent like three weeks concern at

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Speaker 4: the universities can trees educating people from Ghana all over

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Speaker 4: the continent about reggae music and dance.

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Speaker 1: Sad.

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Speaker 4: But I was happy when they came to Their sense

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Speaker 4: is to realize that music is the the bridge that's

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Speaker 4: going to connect us. But what I was disappointed in

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Speaker 4: they didn't try to connect with Jamaica the rules. They

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Speaker 4: connect with everyone else except us and you.

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Speaker 1: Talking about affle beats. Yes, okay, okay, you sorry.

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Speaker 4: So they connected with everyone else except us. But when

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Speaker 4: you look at what they're doing, their music is not

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Speaker 4: free in Africa. It's fun great need a free Africa.

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Speaker 4: If I am in Germanic and my and my country

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Speaker 4: and my paper five for free. You're a continent with words,

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Speaker 4: son and power, and you have the ability to know

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Speaker 4: and now you're singing is fun?

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Speaker 1: Cret You don't sing a song to free Africa? Are

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Speaker 1: now we need? I'm bringing this to the forefront of

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Speaker 1: your mind, but we desire more from them. You want

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Speaker 1: the money, go get it.

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Speaker 4: But what's going to be said about you later on

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Speaker 4: and your posterity. You didn't make any impact. So reggae

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Speaker 4: music still stands predominant. It is still the King's music.

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Speaker 3: I can say I wasn't ready. I might have heard

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Speaker 3: it wrong, but then I also heard you say. This

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Speaker 3: is something that I've really, really really listened to you. Yes,

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Speaker 3: please tell me.

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Speaker 1: One afrobe son.

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Speaker 5: I can believe us.

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Speaker 4: Bly for us, take us from Kenny. I is suffering,

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Speaker 4: people of young men of Kenny are revolting. So Africa

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Speaker 4: is on Sudan, so Sudan, you name it. But which

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Speaker 4: one of these songs can I relate to for a

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Speaker 4: piece of mind to tell me that I'm in the

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Speaker 4: struggle and we are going to be better in the struggle,

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Speaker 4: and even though the struggle is hard, we're going to overcome.

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Speaker 1: Tell me you know what. I don't think I can

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Speaker 1: reggae music right.

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Speaker 4: Listen, A lot of culture vultures over there. We have

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Speaker 4: sat and we have watched reggae time taken.

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Speaker 1: I was going there music so hard and stolen our culture.

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Speaker 1: I'm knocking nobody.

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Speaker 4: But you don't give us no respect, motherfuckers, And you

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Speaker 4: still expect us to act like we take something from you.

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Speaker 4: This is the King's music. Your music shall come and

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Speaker 4: it shall go because has nothing to do with soul,

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Speaker 4: It does nothing to do with building energy. Our music

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Speaker 4: is time marker. You can remember when you went to

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Speaker 4: your first date, when you are their first sex, when

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Speaker 4: you marry your wife, when you go to the first dance.

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Speaker 4: It's time marker because it's the King's music. You can't

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Speaker 4: remember when you're happy, you can't remember when you're sad.

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Speaker 4: You can remember all the things because there's a music

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Speaker 4: to mark that time period. But everyone wants to take

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Speaker 4: from reggae. You want to extracize us on the pay us.

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Speaker 1: Let's just stay on alphabe for a second. That is

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Speaker 1: direct from REGGAEO.

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Speaker 4: No real aphrobetis from Africa, but the influence.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: And I'm sure all the alphabid adds will say to you,

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Speaker 4: oh aphabid is Aphrobidians are going to do with Jamaica,

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Speaker 4: And we will say to them, our music has everything

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Speaker 4: to do with Africa. We don't diecatomize, we don't separate

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Speaker 4: to ourselves from Africa, no kind, no time, no day,

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Speaker 4: because the drum in our music is what speaks to

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Speaker 4: our soul. I think the drumming your music speaks to

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Speaker 4: your soul. But what are you saying? It's important for

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Speaker 4: you to It's easy for you to have anybody to

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Speaker 4: listen to you just don't get that wrong.

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Speaker 5: But what do you have to say to them? There's

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Speaker 5: a hard part.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking about Joe and I was like, that's

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Speaker 3: not that's like that maybe I close my mouth here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's easy for you to have the masters to

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Speaker 5: listen to you, But what when you say to them?

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Speaker 4: You know, we've gone from a people singing singing about

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Speaker 4: the freedom that they desire, a people singing about the

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Speaker 4: hope of their nation rising to the apex the hope

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Speaker 4: of their people and the young men and realizing that

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Speaker 4: this is a great nation and they need to take

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Speaker 4: the bull by the horn to someone who's what people

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Speaker 4: want to plung Just back five five years, fifty five

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Speaker 4: years to wear words peans. Now, if you look in

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Speaker 4: sub Saharan Africa, we see Africa rising up. The brain

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Speaker 4: of Africa has become awakened from Nijera right through. So

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Speaker 4: we cannot continue an a trajectory like we don't know

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Speaker 4: who we are and our music cannot continue to be uninspiring, right, simple?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: I mean they say that all music comes from Africa, Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 3: but then so so you think that we got music

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Speaker 3: come from Africa.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the drum is that we get that your friend,

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Speaker 4: we have speaking and our idioms and the way our

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Speaker 4: bandwards and we don't need it English, we need the Oldish.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, English, you speaking and I speak out.

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Speaker 3: But that's the beauty about listening to you to your

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Speaker 3: music is sorry, it's not just you know you could

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Speaker 3: dance to like you actually school and people like, what's

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Speaker 3: what's the name of the record that it reminds me

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Speaker 3: of a NAS record?

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Speaker 1: We talk about guns? Oh I got to.

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Speaker 3: So you ever heard the record that's had call I

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Speaker 3: Gave You Power where he's talking about a gun? Was

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Speaker 3: that record inspired by Mister nine?

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Speaker 4: I grew up in a culture where those with the gun,

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Speaker 4: I think they have the power gun man. No, you

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Speaker 4: can't be policed, it can't be sold. Those generally with

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Speaker 4: have They don't realize that. What they have done is

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Speaker 4: of mindset that if you do have, you're not powerful.

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Speaker 4: There's some consciously broadcast this that if you don't have

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Speaker 4: a gone you're not powerful, but that sound telling you

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Speaker 4: that whether you have a nine to sixty doesn't matter

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Speaker 4: what you have, it doesn't matter. You're not living right

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Speaker 4: because the gun can't hurt anybody. It's the individual and

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Speaker 4: the mindset that perpetrator. I can committed end result.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: You put a fucking drink right here, it's harmless. The

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Speaker 4: person consume it, then it becomes a dud. Same thing

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Speaker 1: Don't kill people, peopleeople, you know, bunch of one of

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Speaker 1: my songs.

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Speaker 4: So the premise exists. Yeah, don't kill people. People kill people,

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Speaker 4: mister nine said to mister five five. So it's like

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Speaker 4: the guns are talking to themselves. We're not leaving right, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, So it doesn't attend to That's why actually, because

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Speaker 3: it reminds me of the Navs song where nas is

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Speaker 3: actually talking to a gun and he makes it so

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Speaker 3: so there is no correlation. You know, I've never heard

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Speaker 3: so we spoke about some of it earlier. We said, uh,

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Speaker 3: needed your time.

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Speaker 1: But then this car say comes right after this. I

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Speaker 1: read the reviews.

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Speaker 3: They said that this might have been one of the

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Speaker 3: greatest cars serious on earth.

440
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 4: I think Jamaica outsideis fried with Jamaica. I've seen larger concerts.

441
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 4: It's a monumental occasion for Iman. Still being home bland still,

442
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 4: you know, given appreciation for the love of cause I

443
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 4: grew up in a simple home.

444
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 5: The love of God was always there.

445
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: You know.

446
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 4: My enemies try to destroy me because you don't know

447
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 4: who I am. But trust me, they know.

448
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 5: And they dwell.

449
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 4: And I think credibility and if it destroyed, credibility is

450
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 4: easy for you to destroy the man.

451
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 5: Any man.

452
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 4: Once you destroy any man's credibility, it's always easier for

453
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 4: you to go at them. But my father, he stood

454
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 4: in the bridge and showed them that this is my

455
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 4: servant and I'm un easier to serve me, not you.

456
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 4: So yes, they thought they put me away, but what

457
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 4: they did was raised me up. Because you have to

458
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 4: realize what man plan to hurt you with, your father

459
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 4: plan to help you with. Okay, we're living in a world.

460
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 4: We know that this world, especially the United Stans of Americas,

461
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 4: is domain. We don't come to contesting we'll come to

462
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 4: walk like job and we'll not get a robe signal,

463
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 4: a champion, even more champion dan job because music has

464
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 4: been used against the people now as a weapon. I

465
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 4: was here in the early nineteen nineties when I was

466
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 4: a young man. You had no dreads, and I saw

467
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 4: the trajectory, and I saw what they were trying to do.

468
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 4: And they've accomplished it. They are accomplished killing the ki

469
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 4: arrest one. They've accomplished killing everything positive that comes to

470
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 4: the music. And it went on a spiral of we'd

471
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 4: to become the batchery and everything the furious and every

472
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 4: so after the people gain their consciousness and they hit

473
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 4: them when someone or something else and they would drive

474
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 4: the message room so hard that they have no escape.

475
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 4: We are fortunate enough to be on an island where

476
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 4: we can educate to ourselves from these circumstances and cultivate

477
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 4: an identity for our own and a spiritual awareness of

478
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 4: our own and a firmness to take us through this struggle.

479
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 5: We don't hear to convert people because we're at a cult.

480
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 4: Yes, we aim to open the eyes of the ones

481
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 4: who are hearing the earth so they can partic of

482
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 4: the goodness of God, not of the goodness of the devil.

483
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 4: Becaus want to last for a minute, But the goodness

484
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 4: of God is ever lasting. Now they might say, You

485
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 4: might say, well, what does reggae music our hold? Does

486
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 4: reggae music play a part in this? And I will

487
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 4: say to you, music is here to teach us one lesson.

488
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 4: If music is the only thing that shall never die,

489
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 4: Ask yourself, why do you get tired of some music

490
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 4: in two months?

491
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 5: Something is wrong?

492
00:26:53,359 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 4: Oh tis, I should be timeless, right, it's not anymore?

493
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 5: So what's happening?

494
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: Disposable music?

495
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 4: Yes, music is never disposable. The artists are disposable. See

496
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 4: our profession. Our profession was divinely given to us. It

497
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 4: is written in the Basic Instruction before leaving Earth that

498
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 4: you are called the Bible, that a singer and a

499
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 4: player of instruments shall go before the Lad's coming. So

500
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 4: what shall we go and do? We shall proclaim it's

501
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 4: coming forward. You shall bring the people together, you know

502
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But if we're not doing that, then

503
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 4: we shall be thrown into the fire heap. Yeah, so

504
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 4: are my Muslim brothers. They notice, and my author's as brothers.

505
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 4: They notice my Christian brothers who are standing up. They

506
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 4: notice this Barkley is not against flesh and blood. It's

507
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 4: not against none of you guys. It's a spiritual wickedness

508
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 4: and principalities and darkness in high and low places.

509
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

510
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 5: So you can continue, I can head towards the light.

511
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 5: Your choice, you all do.

512
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: Let's talk about did your your mother give you the

513
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: nickname Buju? Actually I are actually yes? How did this?

514
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: I wasn't there. I wasn't aware I was there, but

515
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't aware, you know.

516
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 4: But I grew up here in Caliman, Bojo. You know,

517
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 4: BuJo is a Maroon world. Maro Maroon are some of

518
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 4: the indigenous warriors on my island. We fought the British relentlessly.

519
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: Those are the Moors.

520
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 4: Maroons are from Blackmores. But my generation originated from Nigeria.

521
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 4: I'm an Ebu man coming to my bloodline, and we

522
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 4: fought the British relentle We fared King Charles for farty

523
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 4: years and I come to the British treaty anybody sustain

524
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 4: our over eight years automaticala window sovereignty. So we fared

525
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 4: in for five years and glasses fire and when he

526
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 4: bardon you to fighting the five years after that, So

527
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 4: we tricked them into fighting for eight years without sensation.

528
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 5: And we want our sovereignty from the British.

529
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: Wow.

530
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, And we ruled from the Cockpit country down to

531
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 4: the Clarendian But now our indigenous life and our indigenous

532
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 4: way of life and our lands are being threatened by

533
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 4: the current government administries and of Jamnica who seek to

534
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 4: bring Chinese and the nationalities into the Cockpit region, which

535
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 4: is an indigenous secret region.

536
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 5: Do you serve us the Maroons as the warrior as

537
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 5: so it's.

538
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: Crazy that's happening right now.

539
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 4: Yes, Well, there's indigenous people all across the world around.

540
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 4: Actually went from Peru because the multi national seats. People

541
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 4: have phones, they have, but the multi national seat the

542
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 4: national resources of the land. Like in the capital country

543
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 4: of Jamaica. We're rich in backside right now. There's certain

544
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 4: companies like Nrandom and certain Russian companies who have been

545
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 4: taking this backside for over seventeen years. And they would

546
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 4: destroy your school just to take the backside under the school.

547
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 4: But there's no payment given to the community, not the chief,

548
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 4: not the council of the indigenous community. It's done to

549
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 4: the government's structure where these people are just totally and

550
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 4: your land is being pilfered, like you know, it's crazy.

551
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 4: So it's a new generation of young men rising up.

552
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: What's the two political parties that you make.

553
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 5: I don't give a fuck about political.

554
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: That should be one of the political.

555
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 4: Parties, you know, because they say it's two sides of

556
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 4: the same kind for change and we who upset.

557
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 5: But you have to understand that.

558
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 4: A country is basically a corporation which are elected official

559
00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 4: as a CEO.

560
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah.

561
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 4: A lot of people think a prime minister run a country,

562
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 4: but you have to understand that these motherfuckers are ceo

563
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 4: the company called the country, and.

564
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 5: My board members have the answer. Sometimes these board members

565
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 5: are so powerful that these.

566
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 4: Assole ship in your pants when they get a phone

567
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 4: call from these motherfuckers. You can't tell me that in

568
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 4: the Caribbean we can improve our standard up living for

569
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 4: our people. And as a disaster, I'm run going begging left,

570
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 4: right and center. And these are to say, motherfuckers who

571
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 4: came into politics with three thousand dollars in their bank

572
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 4: account us and leaving politices with six hundred thousand million million,

573
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 4: So where this Where does millions come from? But the

574
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 4: Caribban people are so passive. I think they put something

575
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 4: into our water over the years. We'ren't fighting anymore, we're accepting.

576
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 4: We're not standing up anymore.

577
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: We're laying down.

578
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 4: And these motherfuckers we call a politician, the real criminals

579
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 4: and the real crooks. They're having a blast because there's

580
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 4: no checking balance. Chickan balance don't come from your cronies.

581
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 4: Checkan balands come from people who feel the pin. And

582
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 4: that's why you see what like even in Kenya, they

583
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 4: were taking aback. They didn't know that the young men

584
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 4: and the young women of Kenya had their dogs so

585
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 4: much in a way that they could tell each politician.

586
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: What they owned and where they live and where the

587
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: investments were. That shook them.

588
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 4: So we realized that you know, in the region, ever,

589
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 4: the better as the leaders we stopped. We need to

590
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 4: stop elect people based on your skin color and then

591
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 4: being charming. It should be on your mandate and we

592
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 4: have to hold your feet to the fire to accomplish

593
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 4: what you promised.

594
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: Simple and coming from the islands that historically were the

595
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: ones fighting.

596
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 4: Listen the islands far listen The first island far to

597
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 4: Freus was eighty and where's heated today? In as Caribbean

598
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 4: conjures who look at eighty in disgust because they don't

599
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 4: see themselves us standing with them, brother, the first nation

600
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 4: to fight for free us. And you ask yourself, why

601
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 4: is eighty suffering so much? And why are my Haitians

602
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 4: brothers on so much pressure?

603
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: You know why?

604
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 4: Because they stand up against the giant who they should

605
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 4: have bowed, and they refuse, and everyone wants them to bow.

606
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: Hate it.

607
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 5: Do not bow, Keep standing up. We stand with you.

608
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: Yep.

609
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:23,239
Speaker 5: M hm.

610
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: So I oh, let's talk about Pehouse Records for a second.

611
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: How do you get down with Pinhouse records? I'm on.

612
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 4: Well, Pandos records is a story where I used to

613
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 4: leave Chancellly and down't town kings. Oh my gun jade,

614
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 4: everybody smoking scept give me my blood, clap.

615
00:33:53,440 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: Giant. That's the first time we got to drink chance.

616
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 2: As many of y'all know, drink Chaps wants to give

617
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 2: flowers that people are here to receive them, giving flowers

618
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 2: and celebrating our legends while they can still smell us.

619
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: We have partnered with what the flowers to create this

620
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: movement where everyone can give flowers to the legends in

621
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 2: their lives. You can now order a custom flower box

622
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 2: for to someone you want to show appreciation to you

623
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 2: by visiting www dot wt flower dot com.

624
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 1: Your orders artist. What were we talking about? Let's yes, yes,

625
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: So you about pans?

626
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: Yes.

627
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 4: So in nineteen eighty six August is seventeenth, I went

628
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 4: to Blue Mounting Records. Right, I was in a car,

629
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 4: a taxi with Henry and it's a taxi driver. We

630
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 4: claim I claiment. I was my protege. It's like it

631
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 4: was in those days. I used to DJ and sound

632
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 4: systems and I used to jump on the sound system

633
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 4: truck like Friday and I wouldn't come back home until Sunday.

634
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

635
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 4: I would DJ Friday night, Saturday night, and I come

636
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 4: back home Sunday and Monday morning.

637
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

638
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 4: I used to work on a sound system called Rambo International,

639
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 4: and then I started working on Sweet Love.

640
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: No.

641
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 4: Sweet Love song system was owned by Flowa Gun, a

642
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 4: very popular DJ. We run things, things, don't runway anything

643
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 4: we do Red Dragon, Flowa Gun's brother was Red Dragon.

644
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 4: So Red Dragon saying, look, every person your feel why

645
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 4: now come home? Look every person you ever. So Red

646
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 4: Dragon to me was the beddest motherfuckers at DJ.

647
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: So what my role was to warm the dance up?

648
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: He man?

649
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 3: So, by the way, the whole time, I was like,

650
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 3: I gotta watch how.

651
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 7: He wrote a Smith today. So I've been waiting for

652
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 7: this this whole moment, I was like, what's the warm

653
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 7: the dance? I used to as a young entertainer.

654
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 4: I used to be entertainer called Terry Ganzy, so it

655
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 4: just be Butcher Mount and Terry Ganzy, Daddy Lizad Clement

656
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 4: I flower Gun, a red Dragon, Sanchez, red Rose, you know,

657
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 4: and you know. So one day the rain was falling

658
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 4: and Clement said, no problem, he's going to Blue Mountain

659
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 4: Records and he wants me to come now. The guy

660
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 4: at Blue Mountain Record was a true revolutionary.

661
00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 5: His name is Omar Harris.

662
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: He was very.

663
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 4: Instrumental in the Brickistan Riots revolutionary and I loved him.

664
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: So brisit in London.

665
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I used to go to school, right, So

666
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 4: every time I leave school or before I go to school,

667
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 4: I go by the studio I seen in my car

668
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 4: key and my bag used to be in front of me.

669
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 4: But this guy will call me come here, let me

670
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 4: see a book and take my book back and go

671
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 4: to my book back, and.

672
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 5: Shit, I'm like, fuck this guy up.

673
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: He was shaking you down.

674
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 5: But he liked my he liked my style. I didn't

675
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 5: know that anyway.

676
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 4: When there, I went there and the rain was falling,

677
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 4: and Clementine was in the studio and he was saying

678
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 4: he was going to paint Hors records, and Omaharris looked

679
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 4: at Clementary and said, take Bojo with you so we

680
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 4: can have an experience of what a studio looked like.

681
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 4: I was sixteen years old. I didn't see what I

682
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 4: didn't see what a studio looked like yet. But I

683
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 4: was DJing in the dancer and the microphone, and you

684
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 4: would never tell. So they took me to the studio.

685
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 4: When they went to the studio, you know, I saw

686
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 4: all these guys inside was big fucking chains and ship.

687
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 4: I became nervous, you know, and I said, hey, who's that?

688
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 4: That's Little Lenny. Then those days, Little Lennie had the

689
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 4: biggest song in Jamaica. Gone in a buggy.

690
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 1: She she she has the gun in a giggy.

691
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 5: I said, fuck Lenny right there, and who's that?

692
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: That's little curve before a little way. You had little

693
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: Lennie and little Kirk. Okay, he wasn't born anyway. Clementary

694
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: set of Robert French.

695
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 4: Robert French was a big singer in Jamaica, and he

696
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 4: invited Clementine to this Clementary set to Robert Frendship, this

697
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 4: is a DJENR bojo.

698
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 5: I want you to hear him, and they laughed.

699
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: At my name.

700
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 5: I can't remember.

701
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 4: Tony Keyler was the engineer and they said to me, oh,

702
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 4: this guy finished recording and they said, clement said, you

703
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 4: want to hear what the sounds like? And Robert Friend

704
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 4: said yes. So Tony Kelly said to me, go around there.

705
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 4: You put the headphones on, and when you see that

706
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 4: red light come on, that's your cue. And I went

707
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 4: around there and put the headphones on and they turned

708
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 4: on this red light and that was my cue. And

709
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 4: I closed my eyes, immerse myself deliver one of the

710
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 4: best lyrics I know. I had Steward in my cranium.

711
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 4: When I opened my eyes, the old studio was in

712
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 4: fucking it was like I'm like they.

713
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 2: Like it.

714
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 4: Was it over beat, over a fucking beat. It was

715
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 4: my first time I ever did one take. I sung

716
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 4: for three four minutes forty five seconds straight, no stop.

717
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 4: But in those days, also we are doub plates and

718
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 4: them plates were live, so you go to the studio

719
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 4: and the record will be cutting right while you're singing it,

720
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 4: so you came in no mistake. Is the dop plate

721
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 4: is three minutes, you got to be singing for three

722
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 4: minutes with no mistake as you don't get paid. So

723
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 4: with that mindset, I was able to go inside the

724
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 4: studio and do the song. It's called Rouleaut for my

725
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 4: very first song. It was released in Toronto on All Stars. Yeah,

726
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 4: so that was my first exposure to Pentos. Now, trying

727
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 4: trying to get back to pentals was difficult. So I

728
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 4: would leave school every day and I would go by

729
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 4: sty six slipe en road. No, I would go by

730
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 4: Technique Record downtown Kingston because my school was downtown and

731
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 4: were spangled.

732
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 5: So we'll go up on the Avenue a.

733
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 4: Week, you know, our year at that and I would

734
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 4: go to Techniques and mister Winston Riley had two sons,

735
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 4: Kurt Riley Dana U and a couple of friends like

736
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 4: Mitch Aansworth.

737
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 5: We came we're young men.

738
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 4: You know.

739
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: And one day I was there and I met this

740
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: guy called Cabletan Wow.

741
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 4: I was leaning up on the Salvation Army wall and

742
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 4: I said, this guy coming and went into the record

743
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 4: shop and he came over and stand up beside me.

744
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: Look cream up and where you come from?

745
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Tell where I'm coming from.

746
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 4: I was a start rollanti anyway, I saw himself. Yes

747
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 4: barshat check it out in those they don't pay a

748
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 4: boss fear and I was jump on the boss and

749
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 4: beat the boss up. Yeah, you can't charge me at work.

750
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 4: So I went to Penthos and this guy would not

751
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 4: let us in, this guy the gate man anyway, you know,

752
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 4: we keep going back and keep going back, and it

753
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 4: was a tassel. But then I record a song on

754
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 4: by by from mister Winston Rally who technique records through

755
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 4: the downtown car stamming a Daddy, and this song take off.

756
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 4: Import More was a different province, and there was this

757
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 4: engineer who worked at Pentos by the name of Stumpy

758
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 4: who knew about this song and what he was.

759
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 5: Doing in that part of the island. And he heard

760
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 5: the house at the gate and he told him to

761
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 5: let me in.

762
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 4: But Donovan Dreman wasn't there, and they weren't really having

763
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 4: it because the gate Man was there. I used to

764
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 4: spa with some John Glass and one named Jo and

765
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 4: the Vibe and looked down the gate Man cars, it

766
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 4: would letter. So I'm looking down with a big stone.

767
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: Oh god, I wasn't very.

768
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 5: So when the boss, he said, I looked on him

769
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 5: gate Man.

770
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: They go on to do that.

771
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 4: Anyway, stompy plee my cars and I go inside there

772
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 4: and I sing a song for them, man for Dead.

773
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 4: Met them knowing now seeing the let gun shaft bo's

774
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 4: up in the infirm my head, and I seen an

775
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 4: excellent for them named Jackie and Jackson the gun from

776
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 4: Price big up on the self.

777
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

778
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 5: So they gave a year and then they killed like

779
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 5: my writing style, and.

780
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 4: I started picking up in the ghetto, coming the ghetto,

781
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 4: Come pick I up, bring you to the studio. Yeah,

782
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 4: we're the when I started coming to getto come pick

783
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 4: I up and take a the various dances and various

784
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 4: barbecues and various concerts at the MATTERFA, so I could

785
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 4: warn my skills, you know.

786
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 5: So that was my first introduction on the printers.

787
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 4: I still never meet done a Van Germany until about

788
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 4: six eight months later when you come and near my

789
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 4: music and the first thing he said was this can

790
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 4: they put out on his label?

791
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: Look? It was too rough, So we asked him for

792
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: a lable and he gave us a labled boy Kelly.

793
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 3: And that was it and I was underd Wow, Yeah,

794
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 3: you have a business with what is it?

795
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: VP? No.

796
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 5: VP Records is a star.

797
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 4: Wart in the Germanican community because they're able not only

798
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 4: to understand the music, but to market it to a

799
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 4: demographics that.

800
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 5: Need it and make it reach the masses.

801
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 4: Now, they've been here for quiet some time and they've

802
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 4: been doing tremendous work. We had VP, we had super power,

803
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 4: we have Shelley.

804
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: VP was Chinese people already we VP.

805
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 5: We had super power, we had Shelley.

806
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 4: Those are style war distribute as from the you know,

807
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 4: the music prominent steeple in the United State of America

808
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 4: with Clinton Lindsey and various Arab David Levy's and various

809
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 4: other individuals who were able to use their platform to

810
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 4: move this marginalized music forward.

811
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 3: Yes, Is that the ultimate goal when you are a

812
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: reggae artist coming from Jamaica? Is Is it not only

813
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 3: have it a hit record in Jamaica. But what is

814
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 3: the ultimate goal is get the ultimate market?

815
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 4: Ultimate goals different, Okay, everyone ultimate goal different.

816
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 5: If you want to know what is my ultimate I

817
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 5: can't tell her. What's the next guy? Ultimately, you know

818
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 5: I can't tell us said my ultimate goal is this music?

819
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love even by my ancestors who are fast

820
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 4: and gone to be in the grave and turn and

821
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 4: smile and said, yes, there's someone out there carrying on

822
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 4: the message.

823
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: No matter.

824
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 4: You can't sing a bunch of create, but to sing

825
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 4: something positive for the people at least once Manie Angels smile. Look,

826
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 4: this is godly music, you know. You know I go

827
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 4: through some tribulation and it's reggae music. Could identify with it.

828
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 4: I have played some artword music will have got related

829
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 4: to my situation at the present moment, and oblifty and

830
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 4: give me clarity something that speaks to my soul. Now

831
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 4: everyone different. Someone will find it in soundscape, but no vice.

832
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 4: But does music and orange drops?

833
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

834
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 5: But I take sally and reggae a lot of people.

835
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 4: Do you know it has not been not the same

836
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 4: for from because you must admit the fact that we

837
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 4: are trying to you know what I mean, not similar

838
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 4: to what is hip hop? And the new generation is

839
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 4: someone aching leaning to us that you know what I mean,

840
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 4: We can't we can't knock them because it's what they're

841
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 4: exposed to. The current generation, Yeah, it's what they're exposed to.

842
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 4: And if you understand, each generation see things different. We

843
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 4: have those that in time at least one or two

844
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 4: of them will come around to the reality that you

845
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 4: are similating and not originated and created and keeping your

846
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 4: your original consistency abundant. Because if someone wants to invest

847
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 4: in our culture and you're going to spend your money

848
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 4: with a wrap artist and say you want something different,

849
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 4: why would I send to Jamaica to get someone to

850
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 4: wrap on my truck. I want someone to speak on

851
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 4: my truck from Jamaica, or not wrap on my ship.

852
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 4: I cancerer the Memphish anywhere Los Angeles have someone.

853
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 1: To wrap on my ship.

854
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 4: But I said my ship to Dreamanic or someone for

855
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 4: a difference, because I want an ardcore.

856
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 5: Feeling, know what I mean?

857
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: This guy in those so I don't know if you

858
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: remember doing being a part of this compilation. I lie

859
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: about that. So you're on this complete. I got this

860
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: when I was in high school. Let me see it

861
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: how it is? And it was introducing dance artists over

862
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: hip hop.

863
00:46:55,640 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, why everything? I get the DM So that's the

864
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 4: only I have one Nam Boom mod Is and that

865
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 4: they're my fight. Remember I under my Red Fox, not

866
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 4: the Runks, Crazy Captain Remo, Remo, I was on Scurve remod.

867
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: This is, this is what it is.

868
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 4: When you know, I used to perform and build more

869
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 4: bar room program I used to come to America when

870
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 4: I have a concert like two, three, four weeks before

871
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 4: I'm performed with a band called eighteen with Nasty, the greatest.

872
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: Drummer from New York City.

873
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: And you were hearing you were obviously hearing early hip

874
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 2: hop at that time. Yeah, what was your first impression

875
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 2: of hip hop and what you thought how you would

876
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 2: collaborate with it? Now?

877
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 4: It was fourteen years old. I get my friend upstairs,

878
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 4: but his mom bought him a boombox.

879
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 5: And we got exposed to hip hop.

880
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 4: We're listening to Slick Creck Dogget Fresh the show six minutes,

881
00:47:58,400 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 4: six minutes.

882
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: Douget Fresh show on mell My.

883
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 4: So we grew up on slick. We grew up on

884
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 4: Doggy Run DMC, you know what I mean, So hip

885
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 4: always been influential. But then when I start dilving to

886
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 4: the history of hippa and realized that cool work was

887
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 4: as a drumming used to make the fusion more palatable,

888
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 4: that said, Okay, the dynamics makes sense, understand, so we

889
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 4: embraced it and focus too much rapper.

890
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 5: I have a couple of rapper friends, you know.

891
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: What I mean, like Fat Jewel, yes, my brother, yeah,

892
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: but no more. I tell you this. I'll tell you

893
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: this on your release.

894
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 3: Now, remember looking at social media and everyone being so

895
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 3: happy that you that that you came home like like

896
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 3: it was a universal love.

897
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 4: Was paying full moment not only for me, but for

898
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 4: the entire music fraternity and to all my fans for

899
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 4: the paying want to apologize to them because I never

900
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 4: want to see.

901
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 5: Their cry over me.

902
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 3: I remember seeing footage of that carcert and I remember

903
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 3: seeing ladies just saying, man, I just love Boojoo like

904
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 3: like and I'm just seeing it and then you know,

905
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 3: you know, how did they do behind the scenes thing

906
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 3: of you, like the concerts something like that, And I

907
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 3: just remember the camera's going and people just just expressing

908
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 3: their love for you. This is the first concert I'm

909
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 3: talking about. When you came home and I was just like, damn,

910
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 3: I wondered, did you see that?

911
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 4: I do chance to see a lot of things, but

912
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 4: love is just separated, and it's just seprecated because I

913
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 4: love my people. I love how people, black, white, no matter,

914
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 4: just as long as you understand the love is love,

915
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 4: love the color. You know, we've been separated along so

916
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 4: many lines racial, political right. We've been separated along so

917
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 4: many lines.

918
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 5: Everyone knows.

919
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 4: Don't focused from where them, don't fuck with you know

920
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 4: what I mean? So I just want the people who

921
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 4: understand said when I'm on coming found when I don't

922
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 4: come for Georgia, I come for love your eye. I'm

923
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 4: gonna come to love your dreadlock with this music. Yeah

924
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 4: you know I won't say yeah sunk up. Oh they

925
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 4: stop the fuck and get it right.

926
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: We want you to know.

927
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 3: Our show is about giving people they flowers while they're around.

928
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 3: We want to tell you how dope you are. I

929
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 3: want to tell you how iconic you are. We want

930
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 3: to give you your flowers face to face.

931
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 4: Real Listen on next thing, I get some flowers and

932
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 4: I'm planning so you know, flow flourish them off the growing. Yes,

933
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 4: but I thank you guys very much.

934
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: Love that's great. So yes, we're gonna play a game

935
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: real quick. Let's Chris tim slam now. If you want

936
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 1: anybody or any of your friends the standing in as

937
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: a drink drinking game. It's a drinking game.

938
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 5: I'm on give me, but I'll know you with the water.

939
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: I'll take wan. So he's hold up, we're going to

940
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: look got Yeah, that's from the car for the next

941
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: twenty four hours on Roster. You pull over, so let

942
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 1: me ask you. Let me ask you. Are you vegan

943
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 1: or you eat fish and money?

944
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 5: I'm a fish.

945
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: I kill a fish. Okay, you kill fish?

946
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 4: I mean likely by fish in our career, Sean. Right now,

947
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 4: I say ease food fish.

948
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 3: Because I want to ask you a question. It's my

949
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 3: friend Roster. He's vegan.

950
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 5: He's vegan about work for you're still fun?

951
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 1: Instide I went and kill the fish. Then no, we can't.

952
00:51:51,280 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 8: We can't teary trip every now and then. Yeah, okay,

953
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 8: don't give very much. It is wide all right.

954
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 1: I don't got don't get no, no, no, you you're

955
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: drinking for all of us. I'm drinking with him, he's

956
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,959
Speaker 1: drinking from me. So did you explain him the rules

957
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: deigned to drive off? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you explained to

958
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:22,479
Speaker 1: him the rules.

959
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna two choices. You pick one, we don't drink.

960
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 2: If you say both are neither of the two, you drink,

961
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 2: we drink. We all come on, let's go and any

962
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 2: stories anything we mentioned it's about just anything, Jay.

963
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:44,439
Speaker 1: Z or nas that's our bad mind.

964
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 3: No, No, it's okay, that's fire Tupac, Bob Marley, Bob times.

965
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: I wouldn't asked that. Questions on our list.

966
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 3: Yellow Man or Ninja Man, Yeah, love the King okay,

967
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 3: Biggie or d m X bote Jesus okay, yeah.

968
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: Spot right there.

969
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 5: Peace to both, that's a good one.

970
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: Shop Ranks or cudding rsh Caros want to rock him?

971
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 4: Carris Wine can Okay, I'm going Carross Wine and put

972
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 4: some powerful world Callde his work speak for himself being

973
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 4: a man or bounty killer, No, no, mercy, no, no,

974
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 4: get me going thirsty on a medium Percy.

975
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 1: You know I just answered, what did I say? Bounty killer?

976
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: It's the voice. Any stories though, you got, you got

977
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: bounty stories for.

978
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 4: Then no, Radley, Priceless is the best, you know real.

979
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 4: I call him priceless because he's riding the rice. But

980
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 4: there's no price on such an individual. He's priceless, you

981
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 4: know what I mean. That's my story, and it's the best.

982
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 4: Red Dragon or Sanchez, No Sanchez and Red Dragon is

983
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 4: two different personalities.

984
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 5: One is a single, one is a DJ.

985
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 4: So the dichotomy, you have to choose Sanchez in a

986
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 4: singer category and Red Dragon a DJ category.

987
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,439
Speaker 5: So in this particular stage, I choose both.

988
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: Take it, take a drink that made it up, Burning

989
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 2: spears of the techniques, Burning.

990
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 4: Spear, he's still active. Techniques have retired. M hmm, you're

991
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 4: still doing the work a labor of love.

992
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: Public Enemy or dead press both Public enemy Malcolm X

993
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: or Marcus Goffy, Marcus.

994
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 5: Giavi Marcaus Govey, you know what I mean.

995
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 4: The refuse to come to get a with Malcolm with

996
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 4: Marcus ga sharing the same idea that gender.

997
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: I tried to reilroad him in this Blood Marks Jamaican. Correct, Yeah,

998
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: that's the last railroad him.

999
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 5: One of them tried from the na A CP.

1000
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 4: Come right, we know what it is street and I

1001
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 4: can't fool I don't know what about black people? They

1002
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 4: all what about black people in America? The other one

1003
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 4: of the main reason why we did not come together

1004
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 4: to be bigger than me, It was because they were

1005
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 4: parties and and infiltrated by old side forces with outside

1006
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 4: agenda to fight against the swap back doctrine as they

1007
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 4: call the Marcus swap back doctor. Yeah, but this philosophy

1008
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 4: and opinion shines true even to this day.

1009
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 1: Yeah theirs, Yes, Wow, what is that? It's secret message?

1010
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 2: Gregory Isaac or Peter Tosh both, Oh my god, brothers.

1011
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 2: You know Greg, we share the same birthday, right, same birthday.

1012
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 2: Super Cat or shine Head, super card.

1013
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: Man. Shoutout super cat Man, regg or Dance both a fan.

1014
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 5: You know it's too great. It's too great. Medium of expression.

1015
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 3: Lady Saw or Patra both okay because they both represent

1016
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 3: two different era and the both different nomenal stuff for

1017
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 3: their generations.

1018
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 4: Patra was the breaking point to show the world our

1019
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 4: female ars were capable, and Ladies Saw is a persion

1020
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,240
Speaker 4: the representation of what they can represent themselves.

1021
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 1: As both dope too and both spectaculating their own way.

1022
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: Yea or Lauren Hill, both drink. He's making this drink.

1023
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: I think you're drinking bitters though you're tricking the crowd.

1024
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 1: Welcome to wait. But by the way, bitteress is very strong.

1025
00:56:55,360 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: You get drink, drink Champion and water. That's fact. Okay.

1026
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: Shutters or Third World Cup. Two different dynamics.

1027
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 4: One depict an era which I don't to forget, and

1028
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 4: the other depicer.

1029
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:15,280
Speaker 5: Era, which I embrace.

1030
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 4: Okay, So turn a cop I mean, dance all queen, right,

1031
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 4: dance all queen picks an era where it's just fun

1032
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 4: show you and Shutters right, dance a queen the quicker

1033
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 4: era when the music is growing, budding and it shows

1034
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 4: you what any results of what it comes out to be.

1035
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 4: In Shutters, we see a culture, a Breman gun culture

1036
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 4: which is on the horizon and we all know where

1037
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 4: that end up.

1038
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, now I am on.

1039
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 5: When it come to Jamican movie, I like moving Mecca. Laugh.

1040
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 4: Come my people, funny and dramatic, you know what I mean.

1041
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 4: If I get them serious, they will be. But if

1042
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 4: I asked something on the big screen, I want to

1043
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 4: stare a blood laugh where I know this is Johnny.

1044
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 5: I can't I can do that. I cannot say that

1045
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 5: you know, so we would do something I want.

1046
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 4: I don't want brutalities everywhere and people have been fed

1047
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 4: too much trauma.

1048
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 5: I don't like it.

1049
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: And you don't like those phones neither. You said you

1050
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: don't trust.

1051
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 4: No, I'm un used it in our room and because

1052
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 4: we're not come to the room. If you don't have

1053
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 4: a phone, it's I guess and alone.

1054
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: I thought that was crazy. Trust trust.

1055
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll come back to that, okay. Sean Paul or

1056
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 4: Shaggy both to different even to different representations. I'm Shaggy.

1057
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 4: This is something that we are paying homage because it broke, Yes,

1058
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 4: and it wasn't whole, and it wasn't him.

1059
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 5: It wasn't And Sean, you know, he's still continued doing stuff.

1060
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 4: And I mean Sean has people, and they're both great

1061
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,479
Speaker 4: and both talented, and that would means for its.

1062
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: No cap Yes, yes, they both go to the like

1063
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: you're making karate class. Give it up, Shaggy the drink

1064
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: champces at.

1065
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 5: I do not disrespect my lass. No do I speak.

1066
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 4: Don't speakable anyone back behind back, you know, as a principle, man, guy,

1067
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 4: I tried that they will get funk up. No, no, no,

1068
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 4: so I tried that I want know, I want him

1069
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 4: that I'm on You know I speak truth. Whatever I

1070
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 4: say is I'm an opinion. You are a stand It's

1071
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 4: not a general consensus. You know it's not the agent opinion.

1072
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 4: And choose who to buy.

1073
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 2: So leave me with mine, Chris, Okay, you in the

1074
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 2: next one, sister Nancy or Papa Son?

1075
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 5: Oh, two different presentation, two different era.

1076
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 1: Tchoose both? Okay, he wants to dream. No, Rod, you're

1077
00:59:58,920 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: going too fast.

1078
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 4: My Steve Maley know you're talking about run doesn't sing

1079
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 4: as opposed to Stephen will sing.

1080
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: So please, I can't compare the father with the son. Okay.

1081
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 4: And Stephen is like Damian's daddy, his brother musically speaking,

1082
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. We watch him grow, we

1083
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 4: help him grow and help him mooning skill. So I

1084
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 4: would choose both because you know one is it?

1085
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 2: One?

1086
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: Is it? One is the process? After there that I

1087
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: got one that's not on, Go ahead, go for it. Bro.

1088
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: Would you then mention either one of these guys? I

1089
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: just want to know Garnet Silk or Tennis saw Well

1090
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: now to.

1091
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 4: The French genres of music, because ghan is Silk is

1092
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 4: more spiritually aligned and spiritually you know what I mean.

1093
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 5: Santa and Tennis sing songs that we can relate to.

1094
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 4: However, we didn't get enough of Tennasa to make a

1095
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 4: fear comparison, so I choose both.

1096
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: Of course, he's about he answered everything genius. It's like

1097
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: a genius.

1098
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 4: You think he's gonna say one of them, Well, you

1099
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 4: know our fearness and honesty if we've gotten more of Tennis.

1100
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 5: His life was cut short in Texas.

1101
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 4: Yes, but what we saw we love and in stated

1102
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 4: just like nitty Gritty, Nitty Gritty gave us somewhere. You

1103
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 4: guys know, if a guy called nitty gritty right, let.

1104
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: Them come corby the she boomed.

1105
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 4: So those guys they sung some songs that we wanted more,

1106
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 4: but we just didn't get enough. So it's unfear for

1107
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 4: me to make a correlation between him and dry an

1108
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 4: inference with Ghan and Silk, who has done so much records,

1109
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 4: and it's present even this to this moment in a

1110
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 4: psychic weigh in Wonder or Garnet Silk. No, I have

1111
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 4: a choose boat because we want to No, No, we

1112
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 4: know we know that different kind of single. We know

1113
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 4: you just said that, but we want we can still

1114
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 4: address it. We want that is a girls I'm singer.

1115
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 4: Singer ye Ghana says battle line really just girls, and

1116
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 4: so it's to different singer rasta reality and reality of them.

1117
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 3: I choose I got a song away in one of

1118
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 3: the and lexus and we shouted in Tavoy gardens, are

1119
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 3: you serious?

1120
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: One of the most scariust days about life. But you

1121
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 1: know it was crazy. You know, my island is so nice.

1122
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 1: We name me twice Jamaica, Jamaica. That's just okay, bears

1123
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 1: hermon or Junior read.

1124
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 4: No comparison to the French genre of music, and I

1125
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:53,439
Speaker 4: chose both because both I've done exemplary, will work, Junior reed.

1126
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 4: We grew up on from the Black You Black You

1127
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 4: huru Hera after Michael Rose Docky Simpson and uh what's

1128
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 4: the name? You know, so we remember that and they

1129
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 4: remember the impact of the One Blood to unify us

1130
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 4: all black people all across America, Jamaica and the diaspora.

1131
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:16,479
Speaker 4: And you know it's two different comparisons. Also, remember mister

1132
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 4: mister b samon Od the Boss as you call him

1133
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 4: and refer to him as someone who has not only

1134
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 4: been a mentor to me, but a mentor to anyone

1135
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 4: who desired to enter the field of music. And it's

1136
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 4: still consistent, still making music and still able to be

1137
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 4: a guide rail to us because he's still alive. Is

1138
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 4: respect to me. I can't put me in no category.

1139
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 4: So this is one of the categories. We are going

1140
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 4: to just say that Juniery is a great artist, tremendous,

1141
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 4: super whatever, but please put mister Almond in a different category.

1142
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 5: Okay, thank you.

1143
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: I like that.

1144
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:54,919
Speaker 3: So let me ask you who do you like more,

1145
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 3: performing the record or making the making the record?

1146
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: Make I would have you perform.

1147
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 5: Making record is where I enjoy it before you do.

1148
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, I'm trying to take okay.

1149
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 4: So that's where I really have my phone, so then

1150
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 4: I can have an idea of what you're going to enjoy,

1151
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So like before I really

1152
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 4: record a song and someone said, what's your favorite song,

1153
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 4: I can't tell you because I have recorded it yet,

1154
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 4: So until the is gone, it's no longer my favorite.

1155
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 4: But I have to live with my music for a

1156
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 4: little bit, and I love my music. So when you

1157
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 4: get it, you I mean, sometimes I watch to see

1158
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 4: the lines that people react to because those are the

1159
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 4: lines that really get me cracking up. So really and

1160
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:41,479
Speaker 4: truly recording to me, and then recording is also where

1161
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 4: I spend a lot of time because I believe in

1162
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 4: perfection and I like to make my mistakes there because

1163
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 4: I can fix it right there.

1164
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 1: That's the next one. Nicodemus or Tennis saw a boat.

1165
01:04:56,280 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 4: Two different But Tennis is a singer and Nicode must

1166
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 4: It's like the Godfather. He was the first one to

1167
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 4: tell us or to settle in the middle after reading

1168
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 4: I mean not peop don't understand that, but those.

1169
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: Who do do right.

1170
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:12,479
Speaker 3: It's the last one of great time of slam Nuga.

1171
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 3: Get back to the interview. Loyalty or respect?

1172
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 4: Hmm, loyalty you know, respect wings and people. People drift

1173
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 4: in terms of food, their respect. Respect sometimes come because

1174
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 4: of what your own, where you live, what you value.

1175
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 4: But if someone is a lawyer, their lawyer forever. And

1176
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 4: if you should take up your phone and you can't

1177
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 4: call none of those numbers after three a m. And

1178
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 4: the answer you have a problem.

1179
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: I have a serious problem. Both big ship never stops

1180
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 1: saying put my bottom away.

1181
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 4: Big ship never stops saying two differential to ask for

1182
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 4: two influential individuals who met tremendous music. You know what

1183
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 4: I mean in the world love and review of their work.

1184
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 4: You know, I hope this questionnaire is not aimed to pit.

1185
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 5: Us at each other.

1186
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 4: No, it will never work in that sense, because you're

1187
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 4: asking me about people of metrementdous contributions. I mean, we

1188
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 4: are created equal equally, but we're not equally appointed, thank you.

1189
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 2: No, we bring up these names out of respect for

1190
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 2: everybody involved, just to bring equally.

1191
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 4: But an equally appointed and for each one's appointment that

1192
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 4: you respect.

1193
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 1: That's hard, that's hard. I brought I have. I have

1194
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: a bunch of records.

1195
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 2: Today I can only find one out of my steps

1196
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 2: the place untold Stories.

1197
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 1: Operational Willy no operational? Will now tell me I got

1198
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: the boot leg man, No, no, no, no.

1199
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 4: So if you look at this label, you will see

1200
01:06:58,000 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 4: like this is like someone we're in a condom, right,

1201
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 4: you look at it properly?

1202
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: Oh ship? Yeah? For all these years, so operational WILLI.

1203
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 4: I was sitting on a plane going to trainer and

1204
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 4: I was inspired to write a song called Ragamuffin. Don't

1205
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 4: be silly put a robot anial?

1206
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:13,919
Speaker 1: WILLI?

1207
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 4: In those days was on the horizon in Jamaica, but

1208
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 4: there was a stigma attached to it, and there were

1209
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 4: kids bound with a's and they will be abandoned, and

1210
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 4: there was this aspect that was taking care of them.

1211
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 4: And we became instrumental in making sure these kids got everything.

1212
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 4: Their live span is very short and we make it

1213
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 4: sure that they have everything that they needed in that time.

1214
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 5: And this was the Operation Willi Foundation.

1215
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 1: Wow, So the record's raising money for that, Yes, the label.

1216
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 4: I created the label and Operation will was on this

1217
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 4: label and also place other songs on this label and

1218
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 4: the process go directly. I had to put money from

1219
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 4: my pocket into it because you know records, you know

1220
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 4: what I mean. So seeing that you just brought me

1221
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 4: back to some of the works that we have done

1222
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 4: in the past.

1223
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 9: So Operation really put a condom on you. Willly operation

1224
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 9: with Roga Mophy. Don't be silly, mayby Roe Pan Willi.

1225
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 9: He is on go Ron and we don't want to

1226
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 9: catch it. Rude boy, don't be silly. Roll by Pania Willi.

1227
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 9: He is on Goran and we're.

1228
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 1: Doing what you got seventeen kids.

1229
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 5: Of course, of course I.

1230
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 1: Listen. I've got sixteen sisters. I was listening them no

1231
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 1: Operation will Friend.

1232
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 5: Mission.

1233
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 1: So you got one of the.

1234
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 3: Most interesting nicknames besides Bouje. Well yeah, now that's from

1235
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 3: the Smurfs.

1236
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1237
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 4: I was given to me by weighing one down. Frank

1238
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 4: is like, because growing up I was I was a

1239
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 4: trouble maker. I was a rude boy and I take

1240
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 4: talk from me and and I just do it.

1241
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 1: And Doc was a the foul dude in the smirk.

1242
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they said they have to eat the Smurs.

1243
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I'm cocar spurs look blue people and so

1244
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 4: so when they named you that, did you like it?

1245
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 5: You know, Jamaica, if you don't want a name to

1246
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 5: be stick on you in Jamaica, like it.

1247
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 4: You gotta like it because if they resented it's yours.

1248
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 1: That's a mistake. I mean.

1249
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 5: But over time, over time they keep.

1250
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 3: Calling me, it doesn't and especially for people who didn't

1251
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:46,799
Speaker 3: see the Spurs, who.

1252
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 1: Doesn't know that that's an evil character. That just sounds

1253
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 1: like a very unique name, like you ain't gonna hear

1254
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: nobody else say that.

1255
01:09:53,360 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 10: Yeah, well listen smith Brook Okay, sorry, no, no, it's

1256
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 10: all good, so good.

1257
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: It's a revolution different.

1258
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 3: And I come from but in one year, you broke

1259
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 3: Bob Marley's record for the most number one.

1260
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 4: Don't hear them say all the time, but act like

1261
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 4: and I supposed to be prod that's something.

1262
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean.

1263
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 4: Listen, let's be realistic. I am coming from an era.

1264
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 4: We're a record. What's that record?

1265
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 5: M hm?

1266
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 1: And this said record?

1267
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 5: What's so my record?

1268
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: Five?

1269
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 4: I'm in the mile a seven dollars six dollars, five dollars,

1270
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 4: four dollar, three dollars.

1271
01:10:58,280 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: Two that's all it grows and come fum.

1272
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 4: Then I mana come to a time where I have

1273
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 4: no more bumba cloud record. I can find myself for

1274
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 4: a city. I'manna accept it. I'm still hear my music.

1275
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 5: And I'm self all sting to represent my ownership after music.

1276
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 5: When I listen to.

1277
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: Then, I man go sleep and wake up yourselmon.

1278
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 4: Now, no record, no CD, but music not a blood

1279
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 4: cloud cloud.

1280
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:43,600
Speaker 1: This is a cloud.

1281
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 4: I got from stage of owning my music. I can

1282
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 4: play every time I blood cloud want. If I have

1283
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 4: my full non blood cloud subscribe.

1284
01:11:55,120 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: Yeah my music when it is something to me and

1285
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 1: we all sit and laugh, and I think it's a

1286
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 1: blood cloud. Go back with musical and I take my music.

1287
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 4: I'm putting out a cloud and I can't get my

1288
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 4: music physical player of my music. When I want your

1289
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 4: my music, get your pay and nothing pay music please, right,

1290
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 4: and then a class pennies to make this blood clot

1291
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 4: right your trick, Quill, and the major players who supposed

1292
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 4: to speak of about this trick with and marry your

1293
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 4: blood cloud robbery and still intellectual property are silent.

1294
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1295
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 4: I want to carry a box some blood cloud record

1296
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:44,600
Speaker 4: of the stairs when don't carry a phone full of

1297
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 4: blood if I don't pay my formula the music enough.

1298
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: This bout it. Don't pay a four but don't get

1299
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:56,719
Speaker 1: no music. But I do want to preserve this record.

1300
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 1: One person, one person who stepped up, and I love

1301
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 1: what you just said.

1302
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 3: One person stepped up and started talking about the robbery

1303
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:14,719
Speaker 3: of the streaming. Was a person you got a record

1304
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 3: with Snoop Dogg. Snoop Dogg stepped up and said, this

1305
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 3: is highway robbery. How the hell can you download you know,

1306
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 3: a billion streams and then give me ten thousand dollars

1307
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 3: meanwhile the record label.

1308
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 1: So you think more people should step up like that?

1309
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: Absolutely something that's happened to us. We'll moved from in Parao.

1310
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 4: Okay, our distribution where we got a physical product. You know,

1311
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 4: I understand you think it's too bulky in the world

1312
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 4: is moving, and but there are people like us. I

1313
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 4: want my music, I want my record, I want to

1314
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 4: put my record. I want to hear the nigga go s.

1315
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 4: It means something to me.

1316
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1317
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 4: The other day I was in my recording studio and

1318
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 4: this young lady was doing a final papers at the

1319
01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:00,600
Speaker 4: Universe of the West Indies and she wanted to do

1320
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 4: something on me, and I said, okay, I welcome, welcomed

1321
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 4: her and she came in the studio and was talking

1322
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 4: along the line of music and she has never seen

1323
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 4: a phone before, crazy and I had to take up

1324
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 4: a phono that I'm sure. So you realize that there's

1325
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 4: a generation that doesn't know what a.

1326
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 1: Vinyl looks like?

1327
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 4: Right?

1328
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 1: Right?

1329
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 4: Are some aspects of that generation and doesn't know what

1330
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 4: I'm vinyl and how it is played and how or

1331
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 4: you received sown to a piece of plastic. So are

1332
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 4: we moving so far ahead that we're taking the things

1333
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 4: that make us real humans away from us?

1334
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 1: Right?

1335
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 2: And what DJ Quick said that that the analog recording,

1336
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 2: which I think transfers onto vinyl and tape. There's an

1337
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 2: energy transfer there that's there. You can't get that from

1338
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 2: the digital world, right Never.

1339
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 3: No, I like what you said earlier. It is like

1340
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 3: people wanted that physical, the physical thing. They wanted to

1341
01:14:58,360 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 3: look at the producers, they wanted to be proud of

1342
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 3: them product.

1343
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 4: Remember those days when you hit a record in your

1344
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 4: robit on your pants, did the plastic You rub the

1345
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 4: front and the plastics open like this, and you go

1346
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:09,759
Speaker 4: to your record.

1347
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 1: You want to put your ship back in the sleeve

1348
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 1: so good and put them out down the jackets so good,

1349
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 1: and you read the credits.

1350
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,599
Speaker 4: Oh and when the music is plaining, can take all

1351
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 4: your sleeve and read around.

1352
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 1: Those days. Then you know who the an R was.

1353
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 1: You know who the label was given from from.

1354
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 4: From from From a financial standpoint, I don't think the

1355
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 4: young cats today will be able to get their life

1356
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 4: in order based on what they're being paid from the

1357
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 4: current mode of income.

1358
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 5: It's not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen. So we're

1359
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 5: being robbed.

1360
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 4: And when industry is being raped, somebody's getting that cash.

1361
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 4: But nobody don't want to have about it. You come

1362
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 4: from the island. You see the industry go mature, yet

1363
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 4: the artists who made the industries are sideline.

1364
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 1: You can't be like that. We need to see her play, right,

1365
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 1: let me change the subject for a second. M hm.

1366
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 3: Back in the days, it was a group called Born Jamerican, right, yeah,

1367
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 3: and it was it set off this whole thing Jamaicans.

1368
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 3: That's Jamaican, but they're from America, and like like for us,

1369
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:29,719
Speaker 3: I'm half Puerto Rican and Puerto Ricans from the island

1370
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 3: don't really fuck with Puerto Ricans from New York, Is

1371
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 3: it is?

1372
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 4: It?

1373
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 1: Is it like that with Jamaicans and and boring Americans?

1374
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 1: I'm asking?

1375
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, you know, we Jamiaicans, we're port of our

1376
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 4: heritage and we're proud of all over black bearers. You know,

1377
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 4: once you have a Jamaican blood, no matter what, you're

1378
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 4: a jamia Gan.

1379
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 1: But no matter where in the world, the gold Jamakan

1380
01:16:56,760 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 1: and you know you're born in Japan and you Jamaica.

1381
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 4: Jamaican father, Japanese money Jamaican of course. But you find

1382
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 4: that we're very protective for our culture. You can't blame us.

1383
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 4: So when people or burst, you know, you must realize

1384
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 4: that this is one of the most abuse cultures Jamaican artists,

1385
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 4: and you know this story the powers that we don't

1386
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 4: respect us many underpay us.

1387
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 5: She's just like, you know what I mean, you know this.

1388
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 1: I didn't know that till you said it.

1389
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 4: Though, when we step out, if you don't step out

1390
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 4: and search yourself so this motherfuckers can know who you're

1391
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 4: dealing with, you're going to subject yourself to that. So

1392
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,640
Speaker 4: we have to always know what we're dealing with and

1393
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 4: let them know what they are dealing with. Yeah, and

1394
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:50,560
Speaker 4: it's just that I'm sure my rapper brothers face the

1395
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 4: same thing. They have to step up and they even

1396
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 4: know that they know what they work and know their value.

1397
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 4: So you don't respect It's up to you. But if

1398
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 4: you want to do business with us, you've got to

1399
01:17:58,520 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 4: respect it.

1400
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 3: You know something That's that's was interesting when I heard you.

1401
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 3: He was doing another interview, and you was like, I

1402
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 3: believe you called reggaeto culture votes.

1403
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 1: I believe you said that. I don't know.

1404
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 3: I don't want to misquoat you. I don't want to

1405
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:18,640
Speaker 3: miss calling right, But then you said you said, I

1406
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 3: believe it's what you said. You can correct me, and

1407
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 3: you said, it's like they only work with each other,

1408
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 3: like they don't work with outside in the team.

1409
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 4: When I was nineteen years old, right, no matter sixteen

1410
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,679
Speaker 4: years old, I remember I remember a son called Boom

1411
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 4: Boom Boom Ele from Panamanian. This show us love because

1412
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 4: I went there and I met Kafu Bantan who was

1413
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 4: the next four runner who you know what I mean.

1414
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 5: But then the music went to Puerto Rico.

1415
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 4: Then the music went in all boat and all of

1416
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 4: a sudden, it's like you created this ship, then you

1417
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 4: want to take the white. I think there's so many

1418
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 4: last suits currently from Jamaican producers with reggaeton. There's a

1419
01:18:56,439 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 4: major lawsuits right now Stelli and Clevie Stelli and Cleviey's

1420
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,719
Speaker 4: one of our biggest producers, you understand.

1421
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 5: And these guys have been because.

1422
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: It's the same taken. They're taken right the same.

1423
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:13,679
Speaker 4: Ship because they think we're from the Caribbean and there's

1424
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 4: no intellectual property controler.

1425
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 1: We have no idea what we're doing.

1426
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 5: But it's a new Dane gotam the Batman's st alive.

1427
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 3: And then Afrobs does doesn't raise no laws, touit like that.

1428
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 3: But you're saying that they just it wasn't the love

1429
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 3: is not there, like.

1430
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 5: We should have a more tighter relationship with even Listen.

1431
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 1: I agree with everything.

1432
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 4: When Nelson Mandela was locked up in South Africa, it

1433
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 4: was a vice Africaco free. In terms of the music,

1434
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 4: it was weii weii Mandyla free soon Africa. Jamia cansin

1435
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 4: consistently making the world a weird about African flight.

1436
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 5: Ethiopia, you name it Angola. We name our readying the

1437
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 5: mp l A.

1438
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:13,799
Speaker 4: The MPLA movement was from Angola, the liberation struggle in Angola. Okay,

1439
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 4: we named Riadim Shankai shek based upon Shanki Sheeck fleeing

1440
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 4: from mainland China to what is now called Taiwan, which

1441
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 4: is family farm Mosta.

1442
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 5: We understand. So we are integral and world affairs and

1443
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 5: our music speak to the demographics of the globe.

1444
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:37,759
Speaker 4: Well, so when we you know African brothers and sisters

1445
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 4: doing music that they can identify with, but do not

1446
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 4: hear nothing to free Africa, the free the minds of

1447
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 4: African we are concerned, all right, because if we're in

1448
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 4: Jamaica and we are singing about sexuality, and violence, and

1449
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 4: they can say to us, my brothers in Jamaica, we

1450
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:53,680
Speaker 4: remember when you use to speak to us.

1451
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 5: From your heart.

1452
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 4: No, you're speaking to us on your lips, and we

1453
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 4: have to pull ourselves up by the bootstop. Then we

1454
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 4: must be able to speak to our brothers across the

1455
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 4: pond and say, my brothers, if we're lacking, pull us up.

1456
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 1: You know that's blood club. That's deep because you know.

1457
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 3: Says like you said, handles boom boom boom, mommy, mommy, mommy,

1458
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 3: And then I've seen this.

1459
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 1: It's the same rhythm.

1460
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 3: I always heard this is me, this is this is me,

1461
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 3: me being a little bit in that section. Always heard

1462
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 3: them show love to shop. I heard them show show

1463
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 3: love to you and show love to other people's soul.

1464
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 3: But when you said I think you said this, it's like,

1465
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 3: but it didn't work with us, and I was just like, damn,

1466
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 3: I didn't.

1467
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that didn't. So did you have some

1468
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 1: heeral no? No, you heeral no, and you go along

1469
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 1: the list.

1470
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 5: The answer is no, No. I take the equation.

1471
01:21:59,240 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 1: What about.

1472
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 5: Name somebody else?

1473
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 4: Well, you know they went into the same charate school, right,

1474
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 4: But so but the reality exists, that's not present. There's

1475
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:31,719
Speaker 4: nothing archives and I'm talking something frivolous. I'm not capping

1476
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 4: your research.

1477
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 1: You're right, you're right.

1478
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 5: So I mean if if someone come from Africa and

1479
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 5: they said Bojo.

1480
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 1: Like I don't.

1481
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:46,200
Speaker 4: I've done some with Sally Kit, I've done some with uh,

1482
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 4: several African collaborations.

1483
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:54,759
Speaker 5: It's good because I want to speak to my people.

1484
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 5: I want to faster that bridge.

1485
01:22:58,160 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 1: Right.

1486
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 4: We want to create this simple at the relationship where

1487
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 4: we both understand each other and can relate to each other.

1488
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 4: And the music is the common language of people. It's

1489
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 4: a universal language of all nations.

1490
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 1: Absolutely is That's real, man, that's real. I'm glad, I mean,

1491
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 1: you know what.

1492
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 3: I'm glad to hear you say that because I want

1493
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:20,600
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a lot of people that's gonna watch this,

1494
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 3: and I feel like the situation will be fixed from

1495
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:27,879
Speaker 3: from from your powerful voice, from the voice to Jamaica,

1496
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 3: you know, because because you're the only one I ever

1497
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 3: heard step up and say something. I mean maybe others has,

1498
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 3: but I haven't seen it.

1499
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 4: But that's why I mean it did it mm hmm.

1500
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:48,560
Speaker 4: And I'm not I appreciated in many aspects. But that

1501
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 4: doesn't matter because, like I said, I'm a serve ONTI

1502
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 4: that Ye're not here to serve me.

1503
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 5: I am here to serve you.

1504
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 4: You are the people who make a sacrifice and make

1505
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 4: a decision between buying our bread, buying our shoes, paying

1506
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 4: your rent. I'm coming to see me, and the end

1507
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 4: you put all those things aside and you come to

1508
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 4: see me. I'm here to serve you. I'm here to

1509
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 4: serve your truth. I'm here to serve your music. I'm

1510
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 4: here to serve you in my life. I'm just serving hopefulness.

1511
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 4: Am I perfect? No? Because if your fuck I'll take

1512
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 4: your head off. Okay, but I'm here for you. I'm

1513
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 4: here as your servant. Good I'm not how good servant

1514
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 4: must be serious.

1515
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 1: I'm ready to serve you. What's your favorite place to

1516
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 1: perform besides your makeup? I say Africa. No part of Africa.

1517
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 1: Every part of Africa is a trill.

1518
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 4: Do I bear my soul to the continent from the

1519
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 4: north to the The Nazis on the west, you know

1520
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:47,640
Speaker 4: what I mean?

1521
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 5: Because they don't see a a lot.

1522
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 4: It's far all right. So when I go there after

1523
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 4: traw and give them a good show and sing out

1524
01:24:59,400 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 4: for them, you know.

1525
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 1: And stay awhile because if you're going to do the

1526
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 1: whole continent. Yeah, well in time.

1527
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 4: But the last time I was there was in Stansted

1528
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 4: Stadium with my good friend mister Lucky Dubaby God bless

1529
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 4: his spirit down. We had a beautiful time. It was

1530
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 4: an amazing moment. I want to see enough love to

1531
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:16,640
Speaker 4: South African and all South Africans.

1532
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 1: Yes, I have been there.

1533
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 4: Great people, man, beautiful place, beautiful people, our people.

1534
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 3: Right now, you just sold out two shows thirty six

1535
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:26,639
Speaker 3: thousand in New York City.

1536
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 1: Got that? I mean? I know you don't call yourself king,

1537
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:35,639
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of people who do call you king.

1538
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 5: That I am a servant of the people and a

1539
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 5: servanti the music.

1540
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 1: You know.

1541
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 5: You see, let't me break it down to you.

1542
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 4: Yes, I know where in the United States of America

1543
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 4: a lot of people get it twisted. You know, who

1544
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 4: is a not to get caught up in all of that.

1545
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 4: We're just to continue being humble, being touchable, accessible, reachable,

1546
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 4: communicate to the people. And you know, because my people

1547
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 4: are used to people they can identify with and resonate with,

1548
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:20,640
Speaker 4: not people who are alienated from them and people who

1549
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 4: are you know what I mean, there's a buffer between

1550
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 4: them and twenty people pushing them, boxing them, shoving them.

1551
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:29,640
Speaker 5: I don't de do that kind of fuckreak, you know

1552
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 5: what I mean?

1553
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 4: Because the same people at my security and push away

1554
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 4: with the same people that make sure I can't pay right.

1555
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 4: So you know, the moment you realize that, humble yourself

1556
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:45,719
Speaker 4: that I told you our profession was directed directly Carlo

1557
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 4: by the Fiums as singers and players of instruments, and

1558
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:51,679
Speaker 4: then it's a bartender and then it's a bar tough.

1559
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 5: And didn't see all the part of these things. So

1560
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 5: you know that you're doing something.

1561
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 4: It's easy to have people listening to you know, like

1562
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 4: I said earlier, what it's important to figure out what.

1563
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 5: You have to say to them.

1564
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question. Bob Marley movie,

1565
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 1: I love it right.

1566
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 3: There was one part of the movie where he uh,

1567
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 3: he sent to his manager and he was like, yo,

1568
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 3: whenever there's an Africa play, it's not a money play,

1569
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 3: like meaning like he just wants to go to Africa

1570
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 3: whenever they ask for him.

1571
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 1: Is that how you feel about Africa as well?

1572
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 4: Africa is a beautiful place where I have made many

1573
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 4: sacrifices over the years, many many many soccer. The first

1574
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 4: time I go to Africa, I come up to Jamaica

1575
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 4: and have to pay my entire band out of my

1576
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:40,720
Speaker 4: personal pocket. You know, several times it happens to us

1577
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 4: because you know, you give people the benefit of the

1578
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 4: door that they're going to do business, but it never

1579
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 4: materialized that way. But it can't be a money tinkerse

1580
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:49,920
Speaker 4: want someone to go on, the show must go on.

1581
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 4: But nevertheless, we pride ourselves in doing good business, and

1582
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:58,680
Speaker 4: as black people have a bad stigma attached to us

1583
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:01,680
Speaker 4: that we don't do good businesiness. So it's important for

1584
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 4: us to have good agreements and stick to our agreements

1585
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 4: and execute the agreements accordingly. You know, you need good

1586
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 4: for the next brother who comes into the territory to

1587
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 4: do business, who calls me on the phone and say,

1588
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 4: how was your experience? All right, very good, So all

1589
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 4: things are relative.

1590
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 1: Let's talk about bona fide love.

1591
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 4: Bonafi Bonafi Love was originally done by Erald Dunkley and

1592
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 4: then it was done by den Right. It was remade

1593
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:41,840
Speaker 4: Byway No Wonder for the Pintos label. I think it's

1594
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 4: one of the most pivotal recordings memos Away Wonder has

1595
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:49,919
Speaker 4: ever done. But it's a remake from the original.

1596
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, Now when we may highlighte for Snoop Dogg,

1597
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 1: who smoked more weed? I don't know. Actually, it seems

1598
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 1: like it was a fun ritter. I was.

1599
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:03,639
Speaker 4: I was in I was in my student Carla Avenue

1600
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 4: and we were speaking on the phone. So I said,

1601
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 4: we were He said, this is in the spaceship you

1602
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:15,640
Speaker 4: call his recording students spaceship. I said, I'm sitting there

1603
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 4: under the tree. So he said, is that a mango tree?

1604
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 4: I said yeah, And we were both smoking. So I

1605
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 4: was on the tree smoking in the spaceship smoking. I

1606
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 4: started So I started singing.

1607
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:36,639
Speaker 1: Highlight and I said, good weed all day and night.

1608
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 1: I said, hey.

1609
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 4: So I went into notes and I started writing it,

1610
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 4: and I said, hey, I'm going to write your partners, well,

1611
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:45,320
Speaker 4: I'm going to write in part to us.

1612
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 5: I wrote, and I sent it to you.

1613
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 1: That's why he did it so much in patful. We

1614
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 1: stayed on the phone and suck it right up. It

1615
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 1: was good man. It was a good day, good vibe.

1616
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 4: And it shows me that it's a true artist because

1617
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:58,559
Speaker 4: it's not many people can do that and dialve into

1618
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:00,560
Speaker 4: their creativity just like that.

1619
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 5: And I mean it's our chemistry as well. Yeah, just

1620
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 5: good good kid, good brethren.

1621
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 1: You know. You know what I love about you? Is

1622
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 1: you a man?

1623
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 3: Can't put you in a box. You can't say you're

1624
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 3: just one way? Like you make feel good music, you

1625
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 3: make you know, club music, you make you know.

1626
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:22,400
Speaker 1: What I mean? You make conscious music? Like how do

1627
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:24,680
Speaker 1: you do that and not be whack? Like?

1628
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, because certain people can you

1629
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like certain people can go to

1630
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 3: another genre. I don't know, okay answers, I don't know.

1631
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:37,719
Speaker 5: I'm a free spirited person. You have to be happy.

1632
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 1: You know.

1633
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 4: My children, my guys think come the funniest father in

1634
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 4: the world, right, you know what I mean?

1635
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:45,280
Speaker 5: I love to laugh. People don't know that side of me.

1636
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:46,760
Speaker 5: I don't show them as side of me. They don't

1637
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 5: need to. But music should come from a happy place.

1638
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 4: So if you're a person who's constantly angry, you're going

1639
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 4: to make angry music. If you're constantly bitter, your music

1640
01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:00,160
Speaker 4: will reflect that, you know, I mean, I never go

1641
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 4: to my bed with an argument. I tell you how

1642
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:03,559
Speaker 4: I feel.

1643
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 5: And that's it.

1644
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 4: Tomorrow I'm going to say, no, what's up? Oh this

1645
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 4: is so great the music I would come for a

1646
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 4: pure place. So when when that is intact, you know,

1647
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 4: the inspiration flows, you know.

1648
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 1: So let's talk about I'm saying it wrong because I'm

1649
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 1: I'm dyslexic. Don't be conqueror.

1650
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1651
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:27,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1652
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 3: With Steven Marley when you both performed and you're both

1653
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:31,799
Speaker 3: shed a tear.

1654
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:33,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, why did you go there? I know

1655
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 1: my ship. I know at first he said you shall

1656
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:41,559
Speaker 1: a tear and then you said he and you're both like.

1657
01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 5: You know, I say that was an emotional movement because.

1658
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:46,519
Speaker 1: You know.

1659
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 4: That relationship and friendship with that birdren coming like a job.

1660
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 4: It's ever in sand.

1661
01:31:56,120 --> 01:31:56,280
Speaker 1: You know.

1662
01:31:57,320 --> 01:31:58,200
Speaker 5: The irony is.

1663
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:00,320
Speaker 4: I used to the murders to give mine in the

1664
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 4: morning four o'clock game, used to pick me up on

1665
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 4: my house. I used to go running on the beach

1666
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 4: the first moning Ziggy brat and burta I never owned

1667
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 4: Ziggy again.

1668
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:12,960
Speaker 1: Used to used to run with Ziggy. Then he brung

1669
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:14,599
Speaker 1: Damien you never seen again.

1670
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 4: The first morning Ziggy brings Steve Maley and my a

1671
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 4: pick figure by the beach.

1672
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:22,639
Speaker 1: J Yeah, I never run with Ziggy again.

1673
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:28,200
Speaker 4: And Steve McKey, my best friend at that time until

1674
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 4: this day, we make music together. When the demon wanted

1675
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 4: to enter music, was there making sure that get the

1676
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:39,680
Speaker 4: rudiments of his right. You know, you know that's a

1677
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:42,720
Speaker 4: good friend. That's Bob Madley in this time for all

1678
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 4: of you. But if you do advice, you won't.

1679
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 5: See what.

1680
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 1: Did you have a meat pop? I know you got.

1681
01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 4: Once my mother used to sell in the square raft

1682
01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:57,599
Speaker 4: Barbecome Square and once a blue Mitsubishi Tony pull up

1683
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:02,559
Speaker 4: and this rasta man was driving and pushing mad and said, mother,

1684
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 4: give me a pack of craving in. And my mother

1685
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 4: gave me the pack of craving in, which is cigarettes.

1686
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 4: And I run across the road and give it to him.

1687
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 4: And by the time I should put it in his

1688
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:15,080
Speaker 4: hand like this, there's a guy in the car, ask

1689
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 4: my mom. And by the time I gave them the

1690
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:19,920
Speaker 4: cigarette like this, the poor community was doing on the car.

1691
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:25,600
Speaker 5: And I says, my first encounter with them, that's a

1692
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 5: little little kid.

1693
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Bob Marley. Me and your shop about me.

1694
01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 2: These are like ordained means.

1695
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:43,360
Speaker 3: You know, My God is good and don't make no mistake,

1696
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 3: God damn it. That's a helly selassie Ethiopia. This is

1697
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 3: what the Rasta cultures correct. So how how did this start?

1698
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 3: He came to Jamaica, Well before.

1699
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 4: We were coming to Jimmy, as the rat is we

1700
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:05,080
Speaker 4: we really it's a construction before leaving Earth, which the

1701
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:08,360
Speaker 4: I don't know as the Bible. And there have been

1702
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 4: many a prophecy, and we know that Ethiopia, the all

1703
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 4: Africa was called eat Euopia before Cyrus African or went

1704
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:21,320
Speaker 4: and conquered. We are carded Carthage and drive Annibal them

1705
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:24,719
Speaker 4: south and then name the continent after himself.

1706
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:26,680
Speaker 5: The content was.

1707
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 4: Called Ethiopia, the world continent, the whole African continent. See,

1708
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:35,800
Speaker 4: and then colonization common and die set the continent and

1709
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:39,360
Speaker 4: put invisible bads her name this shad congo, this that

1710
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:42,880
Speaker 4: that that that. But to the uncolonization of Egypt, assure

1711
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 4: me and touch and her name and me and you

1712
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:48,559
Speaker 4: see him she found that piece. But the dynasty goes

1713
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 4: back as far as Salomon and Sheba and too many

1714
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:57,280
Speaker 4: lake and to Rasmo Konen, you overstand, And then they

1715
01:34:57,320 --> 01:35:01,519
Speaker 4: say was from Marasmo Konen. Then all I see and

1716
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 4: then and he's a family with Jesus. Well, I can't

1717
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 4: do religion. The blood line come from the line of Christ.

1718
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 4: The blood line come from the line of Christ.

1719
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 5: So I can't do.

1720
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:17,680
Speaker 1: Lilling age and genealogy.

1721
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 5: That was true. I can't do rast the man ideology.

1722
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:26,680
Speaker 5: So in this time we knew that God don't go

1723
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 5: all outside of us.

1724
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:31,640
Speaker 4: Well inside of us, I have good tarts, I have

1725
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 4: bad tots, right the are the evil tarts and the

1726
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:35,679
Speaker 4: good tots are the godly tarts.

1727
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:40,800
Speaker 5: Yeside, So we see the Christ come any more on

1728
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 5: the earth.

1729
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:43,559
Speaker 4: And I'm sure say, if you have fear, that's because

1730
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 4: the monster see they can move a mountain. We said

1731
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:50,839
Speaker 4: Christ come anymore. I can sure say, just humble yourself.

1732
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:53,719
Speaker 4: I love the lad by God, I love your neighbor,

1733
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 4: and certain things and teach us which you know I

1734
01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 4: don't think it's only rested on two pages. So if

1735
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 4: you want to realize and realize what you really taught

1736
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:04,360
Speaker 4: to us, you have to go and do some research.

1737
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 4: But are these things rastafar to realize that a game

1738
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 4: has been played on us.

1739
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 5: We haven't been taught the truth. Something is a miss

1740
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:15,840
Speaker 5: and why everything by.

1741
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 4: This black black male, black road, blackyard, you know what

1742
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:24,519
Speaker 4: I mean, black book, black list, and everything that's supposed

1743
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:28,280
Speaker 4: to be blackboard. So we realize that there's a campaign

1744
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:36,560
Speaker 4: against not only a particular collab, which is stupidity, but

1745
01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:41,360
Speaker 4: against our people as a nation. Can no matter how

1746
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:43,719
Speaker 4: much success you achieve in this country, you will always

1747
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 4: be norried unless you go play dear ball.

1748
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:50,160
Speaker 5: So I join the karate club.

1749
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:56,400
Speaker 4: So we have to will forward this that brought us

1750
01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:59,559
Speaker 4: into a different reality than the one we thought we knew.

1751
01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 4: And we said a lot of people coming on putting

1752
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:06,320
Speaker 4: on dress do nothing to understand the premise, the foundation,

1753
01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 4: what it means, what represents You've commercialized something that is

1754
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:14,599
Speaker 4: near and dear to others.

1755
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:20,280
Speaker 1: Right, But so let me ask you.

1756
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:23,080
Speaker 3: I just want to reiterate that how did this, this,

1757
01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:25,320
Speaker 3: this matter party and culture come up? Did Hell It's

1758
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:26,679
Speaker 3: lasting physically go to Jamaica.

1759
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 4: Yes, he went to Jamaica, of course, Alice last visits

1760
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:33,960
Speaker 4: in Jamaica, visits Jamaica, visited many places in Jamaica. Men

1761
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 4: and Rastaman who many people taught were frivolous in they're

1762
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 4: taught were venerated because the Emperor indeed came to the island.

1763
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 1: Wow Ah and Marcus Garvey.

1764
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:53,840
Speaker 4: Marcus Garvey is from Jamaica, and he traveled to the

1765
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 4: America's and traveled to England to spread the message of

1766
01:37:56,560 --> 01:38:00,880
Speaker 4: unification from the u n I A you know what

1767
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:05,720
Speaker 4: I mean, the United Namin Association. Yes, and I have

1768
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 4: had many charters across many continents, even from South America

1769
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 4: to the Americas and expound upon the liberation of the

1770
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 4: black man and woman.

1771
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 3: If you was to say, people like you know leave Jamaica,

1772
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:25,559
Speaker 3: who do you think they go to? More London or US.

1773
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 4: There's an existence, there's an existing training to gravity towards

1774
01:38:31,320 --> 01:38:34,599
Speaker 4: United States of America and the migration stream. Much shoulders

1775
01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:37,680
Speaker 4: that are are indication, and indicators are showed as is

1776
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:38,879
Speaker 4: a major place for migration.

1777
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 1: How happy was you when they told you you could

1778
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:43,639
Speaker 1: come back to America?

1779
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:48,720
Speaker 4: Well, I was elated because initially I wasn't told I

1780
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 4: we could come back. I was told that I was

1781
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 4: permanently banned. And I said to the person who said that,

1782
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 4: let's see what God will do.

1783
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 1: And you said, let's see what God would do? That

1784
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 1: that's all, yes, And so.

1785
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:06,880
Speaker 3: What happens someone gives you a call and say you

1786
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:08,479
Speaker 3: can come back to it because I heard you was

1787
01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:10,400
Speaker 3: torn in Africa and I heard you was torn in

1788
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 3: the Caribbee.

1789
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:14,160
Speaker 4: But actually in all you finished on honesty. I don't

1790
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:16,759
Speaker 4: want to chew anybody on the buss because I'm very tactful.

1791
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:19,400
Speaker 4: But this is my issuance of my visa to travel

1792
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 4: to America. Was was sent to me in twenty twenty two.

1793
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 4: And when I went to the embasses the ticket up,

1794
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:27,920
Speaker 4: the lady told me you're permanently band, and I looked

1795
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 4: at her and I said, let's see what God will do.

1796
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:34,599
Speaker 4: And it until twenty twenty three last year, this year

1797
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:37,479
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four that it was really given to me,

1798
01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:40,760
Speaker 4: not from that office, but it was given to.

1799
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:43,000
Speaker 1: Me from the higher ups. Come on, you connect the

1800
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:50,120
Speaker 1: goddamn it. I mean, how was that feeling?

1801
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:50,280
Speaker 4: Like?

1802
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 1: Like the God did it? Was?

1803
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:57,479
Speaker 5: See you know, I'm here to serve my people.

1804
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:02,200
Speaker 4: You see how happy people in New Yorker was not

1805
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 4: only because they saw me, but because they were able

1806
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:08,160
Speaker 4: to receive something that they're longing for.

1807
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 1: You know, what is that?

1808
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:10,000
Speaker 5: A concert?

1809
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:14,040
Speaker 4: To hear music, to feel uplifted, to feel like there

1810
01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:17,400
Speaker 4: was no car stolen, No one got robbed. No one

1811
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:21,000
Speaker 4: was mistreated. It was just a night of two nights

1812
01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 4: of pure fun, love and entertainment because of good energy,

1813
01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:30,080
Speaker 4: good vibe. And you know, they try, like I told you,

1814
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:32,760
Speaker 4: you know, you to destroy. Somebody goes off going, they

1815
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:35,120
Speaker 4: go after the credibility out and then they go for

1816
01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:35,759
Speaker 4: the jugular.

1817
01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 5: My people did not bite. Many bought in.

1818
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:42,760
Speaker 1: Well. Listen, the vice of the people is the voice

1819
01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:43,200
Speaker 1: of God.

1820
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:44,320
Speaker 5: What's his man?

1821
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:52,719
Speaker 1: Yes, after me, let's talk about hills and valleys.

1822
01:40:52,960 --> 01:40:59,280
Speaker 4: Oh, free the people to well liberated or truly well liberated.

1823
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 5: That fine spirit you know over hills and valleys.

1824
01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 1: How did you? How did you make that? W was

1825
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:07,559
Speaker 1: you inhales and mountain and the valleys?

1826
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:11,559
Speaker 5: Actually I was on tour going through this the Swiss

1827
01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:13,720
Speaker 5: Alps and my tour bus.

1828
01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:15,720
Speaker 1: Oh that's the just the joint where the snow was

1829
01:41:15,720 --> 01:41:16,080
Speaker 1: on top.

1830
01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:19,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was going through some tons. Yeah, on tour

1831
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:22,080
Speaker 5: through the Swiss Alps.

1832
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:24,519
Speaker 4: Because I used to spend three months here tour in

1833
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 4: the Americans, three months touring the European countries are four

1834
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 4: then two in the Caribbean. And that's why I used

1835
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:33,360
Speaker 4: to spend my time and I was an inspiration. I

1836
01:41:33,439 --> 01:41:36,960
Speaker 4: received while I was traversed in the earth. How does

1837
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:39,719
Speaker 4: it feel performed for the white people like that? Europe

1838
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 4: very performing. You have to understand that reggae music is

1839
01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:46,120
Speaker 4: an international music and you speak a universal language that connected.

1840
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:47,360
Speaker 5: I told you it's the King's music.

1841
01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 1: Like my white friend over there, I had to tell

1842
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:50,559
Speaker 1: him stop.

1843
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:54,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, and King music need like this.

1844
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:55,519
Speaker 1: I said, you can't do that.

1845
01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:58,680
Speaker 4: It was a need for the people. It doesn't matter

1846
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:03,439
Speaker 4: you're grown and what you gone. Other days when we

1847
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:07,320
Speaker 4: can separate people along their racial adam color lines when

1848
01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:10,120
Speaker 4: it come to music, you know much people love Kendrick

1849
01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:11,320
Speaker 4: Lamardy and not like us.

1850
01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:17,000
Speaker 1: I don't know how we got here.

1851
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:25,639
Speaker 4: And I'm trying to tell you is diverse, So don't

1852
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 4: believe that you I'm under reggae music. There's a demographics

1853
01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 4: who's not. And the more people in Europe love reggae

1854
01:42:32,920 --> 01:42:33,759
Speaker 4: music than America.

1855
01:42:34,280 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 5: Full Okay.

1856
01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:39,559
Speaker 4: When I when I play a concert in the Haague,

1857
01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:44,720
Speaker 4: fore hundred thousand people in Holland Behague, one hundred thousand people.

1858
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:51,080
Speaker 3: Don't get it twisted. Whenever I'm more vacation like there's

1859
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 3: but white people. That's what they playing reggae?

1860
01:42:53,160 --> 01:42:57,479
Speaker 4: You know, reggae music. You have to understand also, my

1861
01:42:57,600 --> 01:43:02,840
Speaker 4: forefather's cultivated Europe more than America in terms of making

1862
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:05,040
Speaker 4: the music heard and bringing the music to the masses.

1863
01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:09,720
Speaker 4: That cultivated Europe a lot more so. Europeans are very

1864
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:12,519
Speaker 4: much deep into reggae music much so.

1865
01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 3: And then let's just talk about your relationship with college.

1866
01:43:16,160 --> 01:43:18,920
Speaker 3: He was also a person that I've seen campaign you

1867
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:21,800
Speaker 3: so much, like when you when you when you came home.

1868
01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:26,000
Speaker 3: I'm not saying the US's home. US is your home too,

1869
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:28,640
Speaker 3: you know, your second home whatever, but he was campaigning

1870
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:29,320
Speaker 3: for you so much.

1871
01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:31,439
Speaker 1: How did you develop the relationship. I know your work

1872
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 1: together Back in the days in there was an hurricane

1873
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:38,040
Speaker 1: this shime Miami card.

1874
01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:42,599
Speaker 4: And in those days we used to have a whirrows

1875
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:44,280
Speaker 4: and one hundred and seventeenth streets.

1876
01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:46,640
Speaker 5: On the courstyard.

1877
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:54,559
Speaker 1: I was walking down the road no after I trying to.

1878
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:58,280
Speaker 4: Find a wish bat and wish by wish bad. So

1879
01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:01,800
Speaker 4: we're finding a ready sea Sean. That's how we met

1880
01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:05,479
Speaker 4: up with Daddy's enjoy aboard Fox ninety six.

1881
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:06,559
Speaker 5: That's Miss nine.

1882
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 1: Was Lady Terror DJ for a game and.

1883
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:15,920
Speaker 4: A couple of ones and ones well Karli it was

1884
01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:19,440
Speaker 4: a part of that, but we eased to have right away.

1885
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:24,360
Speaker 5: Look a vibe. I'm talking skinnical.

1886
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:30,280
Speaker 4: So he used to come to Jerminica but in love

1887
01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:34,599
Speaker 4: the music so much that you know, bechwing me beats,

1888
01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:37,600
Speaker 4: try this and that, and I'm riding the car with

1889
01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:41,160
Speaker 4: him and I'm open. But I realized that you had

1890
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:43,560
Speaker 4: a vision. I said, let's record it, let's make it

1891
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:46,040
Speaker 4: into a dog plate, and we started doing the ship.

1892
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:47,840
Speaker 4: So he used to go to Jamaica to play for

1893
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:51,360
Speaker 4: Fully Loaded. And when he came and saw the reaction

1894
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:54,559
Speaker 4: because in those days, when you do go and get

1895
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:59,360
Speaker 4: a gun salute, it's all gone saloon one. And when

1896
01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:04,160
Speaker 4: he saw that, realize that this kid could and then

1897
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 4: he's playing skills. How he did this thing and his

1898
01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:10,599
Speaker 4: love for the music not the money, because in this game,

1899
01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:13,800
Speaker 4: if you love the music, it loves you back. If

1900
01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:16,719
Speaker 4: you love the music, it loves you back. I'm telling you, brother,

1901
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 4: And he loved the music and it loves him. He

1902
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:22,200
Speaker 4: loves him back, as simple as that. So our friendship

1903
01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 4: is not based on who the world say he is

1904
01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:31,479
Speaker 4: now and who he truly is. And he'll always be

1905
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:36,320
Speaker 4: my brother, always be my friend. It was good heart,

1906
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:40,800
Speaker 4: good spirit, love him family, good kid, and he loves music.

1907
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:41,800
Speaker 4: Most importantly.

1908
01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:50,160
Speaker 3: Is there a real place called Holy Mountain? Yeah, in Jamaica,

1909
01:45:50,560 --> 01:46:00,280
Speaker 3: wherever you find it, wherever you find it. Brother, Yes,

1910
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 3: well that's real, that's real.

1911
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:07,160
Speaker 1: Oh, Driver, I don't stop at.

1912
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 3: That record had New York City on the motherfucking when

1913
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:19,760
Speaker 3: that ship came on. Driver, that's my part, Like, I'm sorry,

1914
01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:20,760
Speaker 3: I said, I heard it.

1915
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:23,720
Speaker 5: It was not so aggressive.

1916
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:32,200
Speaker 11: Drive, don't stop my towel. Have a fantasy, you won't

1917
01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:36,680
Speaker 11: get a driver, right, I have.

1918
01:46:36,720 --> 01:46:39,240
Speaker 1: A life respected. So but how did you come up

1919
01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:45,840
Speaker 1: with that formula? Oh? I had a driver one night

1920
01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:47,519
Speaker 1: I have to get to a studio. Was trying to

1921
01:46:47,560 --> 01:46:51,040
Speaker 1: down here in Miami. I was leaving from my.

1922
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:53,880
Speaker 4: House in to get to the studio, and I had

1923
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:59,479
Speaker 4: a driver. I'm telling him push its let's go by

1924
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:01,559
Speaker 4: till I got after the studio, I was sinking, Driver.

1925
01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:05,240
Speaker 4: So I put my program I was going to do

1926
01:47:05,320 --> 01:47:08,519
Speaker 4: on hold and sent to Jamaica on the phone to

1927
01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:10,960
Speaker 4: get the rodding from the taxi to make the demo

1928
01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:13,320
Speaker 4: and fly home the next day because I knew it

1929
01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:14,000
Speaker 4: was a smash.

1930
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:15,120
Speaker 1: Wow.

1931
01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:21,639
Speaker 3: Do you want to mothers write about anything. Yo, that's crazy.

1932
01:47:21,640 --> 01:47:24,200
Speaker 3: I would have never thought that at all. It makes

1933
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:31,120
Speaker 3: a noise for that. That's a holy ship. Okay we

1934
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:35,400
Speaker 3: speak about this yet, Walk like a champion. You know,

1935
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:38,599
Speaker 3: that's the girl's favorite. Such a classic.

1936
01:47:38,680 --> 01:47:42,799
Speaker 5: Man, that's the girls. That's the girl's joint right there. Okay,

1937
01:47:43,120 --> 01:47:44,280
Speaker 5: that's the girls joint right there.

1938
01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:46,160
Speaker 1: Because Finn is gonna do the record over, You're gonna

1939
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:54,759
Speaker 1: do Drink like a champion. Oh yeah, just want to drink. Okay,

1940
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:56,479
Speaker 1: but how you talk about it? But how did you

1941
01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:59,040
Speaker 1: make champion?

1942
01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:01,839
Speaker 5: So that was a Penthos production.

1943
01:48:02,520 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 4: I came to the studio one day and there was

1944
01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:07,400
Speaker 4: this guy sitting down with a bass on a stool.

1945
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:11,120
Speaker 4: So his name is His name is Leroy Simbly. It's

1946
01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:13,240
Speaker 4: a very famous singer from the group called Heptones. But

1947
01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:17,280
Speaker 4: he's also a bass player, and he was singing a song.

1948
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:24,200
Speaker 4: I can't remember the song, excuse me, but it really

1949
01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:27,040
Speaker 4: was so groovy. And you know, normally, because Pentos was

1950
01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:29,920
Speaker 4: my Pentos became my home base. So when you come

1951
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 4: here to work and I came, I wouldn't come out,

1952
01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:33,880
Speaker 4: you know, I would just stay here and ulla vibe

1953
01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:36,080
Speaker 4: with you to make sure whatever you're doing because in

1954
01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:39,479
Speaker 4: those days, Donovan Jerman was like the boss, but it

1955
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:42,280
Speaker 4: was it was so cool. His girl, his man have

1956
01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:45,880
Speaker 4: a recording studient is low period to run it. He'll

1957
01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:47,800
Speaker 4: come to America and come back like once someone put

1958
01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:50,559
Speaker 4: this on at the side and said, let me want

1959
01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:53,559
Speaker 4: to make They would have to play what we did

1960
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:55,679
Speaker 4: for everybody, and then he just jump on the plane

1961
01:48:55,680 --> 01:48:58,200
Speaker 4: and gone again. So we had the studio, so anybody

1962
01:48:58,280 --> 01:49:01,760
Speaker 4: come there and said, Nana McLean from Canada and all

1963
01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:03,280
Speaker 4: these people come to the studio and.

1964
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:04,920
Speaker 1: You know, you guys have free rein.

1965
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:09,280
Speaker 5: So yeah, so we were just making music. So I

1966
01:49:09,439 --> 01:49:12,040
Speaker 5: was still checking it out and I'm like, so I'm good.

1967
01:49:12,040 --> 01:49:12,639
Speaker 1: I like to beat.

1968
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:16,200
Speaker 5: And that's where the inspiration came with just recording.

1969
01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:18,760
Speaker 1: So it was nothing but no championship.

1970
01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:22,360
Speaker 4: No, there was no championships, more like an inspiration. And

1971
01:49:22,439 --> 01:49:24,080
Speaker 4: the music was talking to me and I was just

1972
01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:26,840
Speaker 4: talking back to it with a great conversation.

1973
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:32,920
Speaker 3: Yes, you know this, this story is fucking amazing. Man,

1974
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:36,200
Speaker 3: Hold up, i'menormous pronouncing this wrong.

1975
01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:36,960
Speaker 1: So what.

1976
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:39,599
Speaker 5: Rider?

1977
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:43,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, no bat to rider, don't get it twisted.

1978
01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:46,240
Speaker 4: But to rider is a shot a very short shot

1979
01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:49,759
Speaker 4: that the lady wears the ladies wears their cheeks.

1980
01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:52,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, their ass cheeks are exposed.

1981
01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:53,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1982
01:49:54,160 --> 01:49:56,439
Speaker 4: So this was a trend back in the time, in

1983
01:49:56,479 --> 01:49:59,560
Speaker 4: the early nineties, and it was the coming out for

1984
01:49:59,640 --> 01:50:01,280
Speaker 4: the lady back in the time because we're coming from

1985
01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:04,720
Speaker 4: an era we're almost fear the cloud. Okay, I mean

1986
01:50:05,120 --> 01:50:08,640
Speaker 4: boderline Prutige, fear the cloud, conservative conservative.

1987
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:08,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1988
01:50:09,240 --> 01:50:13,240
Speaker 4: So this was also a coming on era where fashion

1989
01:50:13,479 --> 01:50:17,479
Speaker 4: and embracing a fashion and trends was becoming more social nouns.

1990
01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, so so up closer personal even though that's

1991
01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:22,519
Speaker 1: a rhythm.

1992
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:26,439
Speaker 4: Right close and personal. Yes, it's a song, yeah, the

1993
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:32,240
Speaker 4: title of a song. Yeah, is that something that's common in.

1994
01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:37,479
Speaker 3: The culture is like pretty much everyone rhyming on the

1995
01:50:37,520 --> 01:50:39,280
Speaker 3: same beat and making their own version.

1996
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:41,120
Speaker 1: Of a song. Know what what happened was.

1997
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:47,120
Speaker 4: First for for DJ playing the music in the dance,

1998
01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 4: all right, the producer now has to put his mind

1999
01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:52,680
Speaker 4: think about them. He has to think about them. So

2000
01:50:53,120 --> 01:50:56,400
Speaker 4: you put this hot song on this beat, but there's

2001
01:50:56,439 --> 01:51:01,240
Speaker 4: only one song. The letter and the guy who's playing

2002
01:51:01,280 --> 01:51:03,720
Speaker 4: the music have four songs to keep the juggling going

2003
01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:06,960
Speaker 4: as such a dynamic, so we try to give them

2004
01:51:07,760 --> 01:51:08,280
Speaker 4: more play.

2005
01:51:08,800 --> 01:51:10,160
Speaker 1: So that's particularly four the club.

2006
01:51:10,320 --> 01:51:14,120
Speaker 4: Yes, so the guys, because even though when I make music,

2007
01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:16,920
Speaker 4: I try to make music that I have three and

2008
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:20,080
Speaker 4: four songs on the beat, so the selector can get

2009
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:22,439
Speaker 4: a grace because when you do, when you go one song,

2010
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:25,000
Speaker 4: sometimes it's difficult for them just play this once and

2011
01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 4: then move on to something else. But is this what

2012
01:51:27,200 --> 01:51:30,439
Speaker 4: you call a juggling. He can play this, he's play that,

2013
01:51:30,640 --> 01:51:32,640
Speaker 4: mix that in and then go you know what I mean, so.

2014
01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:33,519
Speaker 1: You make it more.

2015
01:51:34,160 --> 01:51:36,400
Speaker 4: But I don't think no one is doing that anymore either.

2016
01:51:36,439 --> 01:51:37,680
Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on with that.

2017
01:51:38,600 --> 01:51:41,200
Speaker 1: Do you think that like died in in the late nineties.

2018
01:51:41,439 --> 01:51:43,720
Speaker 4: No, I mean there's a new trend happening now when

2019
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:46,960
Speaker 4: new innovations are taking place. I mean, let's face it,

2020
01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:49,799
Speaker 4: we're not We're not nineteen anymore, we're not twenty anymore.

2021
01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:51,960
Speaker 5: Those were nineteen and twenty. Now they're seeing the music

2022
01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:53,120
Speaker 5: through different lens.

2023
01:51:53,479 --> 01:51:55,880
Speaker 4: So there's a paradigm shift, obviously, So we have to

2024
01:51:56,439 --> 01:51:58,400
Speaker 4: hope and pray that they catch the bull by the

2025
01:51:58,520 --> 01:52:02,559
Speaker 4: hands and integrate some of the good things that and.

2026
01:52:02,640 --> 01:52:06,559
Speaker 2: Literally seeing it through a new lens. Everybody's their phone

2027
01:52:06,880 --> 01:52:08,679
Speaker 2: lens absolutely literally.

2028
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:12,240
Speaker 1: So you know when you said you dj' earlier, you

2029
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:13,760
Speaker 1: talking about yeah J no.

2030
01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:16,960
Speaker 4: No, the word DJ is always miss come school in America.

2031
01:52:17,240 --> 01:52:19,000
Speaker 4: But the guy who played the music is called this

2032
01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:23,680
Speaker 4: jock in Jamaica. Say a selector right now, the guy

2033
01:52:23,720 --> 01:52:26,320
Speaker 4: who owns allD mic and rap like I do, it's

2034
01:52:26,360 --> 01:52:26,920
Speaker 4: called a DJ.

2035
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:33,080
Speaker 1: That's right, and that's the A C T. Can you

2036
01:52:33,200 --> 01:52:33,880
Speaker 1: DJ right now?

2037
01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:38,200
Speaker 4: I'm on, I'm on dji man you can yeah, man,

2038
01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:40,200
Speaker 4: Racca party right now. Y.

2039
01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:43,200
Speaker 5: I wonder too. I want the tooth slim. I want

2040
01:52:43,240 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 5: the kind of over weird. I want the two yo.

2041
01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:56,920
Speaker 4: So I've time and put that pone up your nails

2042
01:52:56,920 --> 01:52:59,880
Speaker 4: and you up your lap the way you on your movie.

2043
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:02,599
Speaker 4: I told you how many forever and we never quit

2044
01:53:03,240 --> 01:53:06,360
Speaker 4: on the minister you forbis. I love it when you

2045
01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:09,000
Speaker 4: do it like this in a downsid you're making turn.

2046
01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:11,599
Speaker 4: I make it twists with the gym. When I drink

2047
01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:14,519
Speaker 4: and ship water them, I drink of water, sip for you,

2048
01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:23,080
Speaker 4: give them, get me music nice like this. So the

2049
01:53:23,200 --> 01:53:26,880
Speaker 4: next album coming off from Babandannis Carr, I'm not telling

2050
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:29,240
Speaker 4: the titles. Ye can't do that, but it's one hundred

2051
01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:32,560
Speaker 4: percent down side. Why I haven't given the massive in

2052
01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:36,160
Speaker 4: the dance a music since I came home and you

2053
01:53:36,280 --> 01:53:40,560
Speaker 4: know me, then if you know, Gagamel is still the Gagamel.

2054
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:49,679
Speaker 1: I got a bake on the talk yourself happen together

2055
01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:50,040
Speaker 1: at all.

2056
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:53,800
Speaker 3: So if there's anything that you could do in this game,

2057
01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:56,439
Speaker 3: do over, if you had one thing to do over,

2058
01:53:56,760 --> 01:53:57,320
Speaker 3: what would you do?

2059
01:53:59,000 --> 01:53:59,200
Speaker 1: You know?

2060
01:54:00,600 --> 01:54:02,880
Speaker 4: If I had wanting to do over out the smart

2061
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:10,599
Speaker 4: that mother, I'm sorry, I wasn't ready.

2062
01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:18,479
Speaker 1: No, you know, if I had wanting to do over

2063
01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:21,000
Speaker 1: in this game, bro, I'm.

2064
01:54:20,920 --> 01:54:27,920
Speaker 4: Serious, I would to make it my earnest, earnest, earnest

2065
01:54:30,240 --> 01:54:34,840
Speaker 4: duty to make sure these motherfuckers know their dance all

2066
01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:38,560
Speaker 4: this year to stay forever and Reggodness is going to

2067
01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:41,240
Speaker 4: leave forever because I didn't think they get the message.

2068
01:54:41,240 --> 01:54:43,240
Speaker 4: They didn't get the memo. I put some leaf lifts

2069
01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:47,520
Speaker 4: under their door. They didn't read it. And that's one

2070
01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:51,400
Speaker 4: of my biggest regrets because I know a lot of

2071
01:54:51,440 --> 01:54:57,640
Speaker 4: people right they see this music, they love it, they

2072
01:54:57,720 --> 01:54:58,720
Speaker 4: want to get close to it.

2073
01:55:00,040 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 5: We've never been given the mainstream.

2074
01:55:03,480 --> 01:55:03,560
Speaker 1: Hm.

2075
01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:07,880
Speaker 4: You never hear us in every rotation unless we're selling

2076
01:55:07,960 --> 01:55:10,320
Speaker 4: out singing like we're some guys from Disney.

2077
01:55:11,560 --> 01:55:16,040
Speaker 5: You know what I mean. This is gonna come when

2078
01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:18,320
Speaker 5: we're gonna have pirate stations.

2079
01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:20,680
Speaker 4: And my only regret is that I didn't get another

2080
01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:22,440
Speaker 4: first person to get one in America.

2081
01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 5: You guys need a pirate station.

2082
01:55:25,560 --> 01:55:30,120
Speaker 1: That's that's what you guys started. I was lost started off.

2083
01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:32,600
Speaker 5: So talk about regrets, that's what we regret.

2084
01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:35,400
Speaker 4: We should have pirate station all among this motherfucker at

2085
01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:37,840
Speaker 4: one pirate station, and we knew we could have done

2086
01:55:37,840 --> 01:55:39,800
Speaker 4: it because guess what, it's difficult for them to climb

2087
01:55:39,840 --> 01:55:41,720
Speaker 4: all these tall buildings to find those antennas.

2088
01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:45,360
Speaker 5: Bro, what do you what do you antenna every day?

2089
01:55:46,720 --> 01:55:48,840
Speaker 1: That's what DJ RO did on the bus. What do

2090
01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:51,640
Speaker 1: you enjoy better? Independent or major label?

2091
01:55:51,880 --> 01:55:52,400
Speaker 5: Independent?

2092
01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:54,080
Speaker 4: Mone It means I take too long term shit our

2093
01:55:54,080 --> 01:55:59,240
Speaker 4: own independent now Also the most money I ever making

2094
01:55:59,240 --> 01:56:01,600
Speaker 4: other music business, those when I was independent to gogle

2095
01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:04,560
Speaker 4: in music, Yeah, because I didn't have any I mean,

2096
01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:07,560
Speaker 4: I'm at one, boss, You understanding those days we have

2097
01:56:07,640 --> 01:56:11,280
Speaker 4: mechanical loses where the real des we want selling real records,

2098
01:56:12,280 --> 01:56:14,320
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, not what we dealing with now,

2099
01:56:14,680 --> 01:56:17,480
Speaker 4: but independent there is always good to have more creative control.

2100
01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:20,280
Speaker 1: But you can see where your budget is going.

2101
01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:27,240
Speaker 4: You have more financial control. Yeah, man, independent records, right,

2102
01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:29,640
Speaker 4: goglelel music.

2103
01:56:30,200 --> 01:56:38,880
Speaker 3: Music God comes down, It says, Bojo, you got one

2104
01:56:39,040 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 3: record to save the whole humanity.

2105
01:56:43,080 --> 01:56:44,480
Speaker 4: You I am you.

2106
01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:48,320
Speaker 3: You gotta make this record, Bojo, and you get one

2107
01:56:48,400 --> 01:56:53,080
Speaker 3: feature and one producer. Who is your one feature and

2108
01:56:53,320 --> 01:56:54,560
Speaker 3: the one producer.

2109
01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:58,280
Speaker 5: For some fun was doing blastphere.

2110
01:57:00,040 --> 01:57:00,280
Speaker 1: On the.

2111
01:57:02,200 --> 01:57:06,720
Speaker 4: Uh. But when she was my feature in creation, you

2112
01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:09,760
Speaker 4: know it's better named Steve who and do a thing

2113
01:57:10,640 --> 01:57:11,360
Speaker 4: back in that time?

2114
01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:14,000
Speaker 5: Yes, seem fool men.

2115
01:57:14,160 --> 01:57:18,920
Speaker 1: That's what we say here do a thing with saying

2116
01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:20,040
Speaker 1: that we have stories.

2117
01:57:24,240 --> 01:57:32,880
Speaker 5: Do a thing, Carl to be wonderful thing to do?

2118
01:57:33,080 --> 01:57:47,800
Speaker 1: Do do? Did you? Uh? What's that song called? You

2119
01:57:47,840 --> 01:57:51,040
Speaker 1: guys do not into music. I'm not telling you I'm

2120
01:57:51,080 --> 01:58:02,200
Speaker 1: trying to damaging everything you do. Do j teens.

2121
01:58:04,920 --> 01:58:11,400
Speaker 4: Don't get it yet, sound like Stevie Bright, You guys

2122
01:58:11,440 --> 01:58:20,400
Speaker 4: are so slow. Master blaster guys. So the master Blaster right,

2123
01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:24,360
Speaker 4: that's the master Blaster. It's called the Master Blaster right

2124
01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:29,000
Speaker 4: by Steve Wanda. It's one of my favorite So you know,

2125
01:58:29,240 --> 01:58:30,800
Speaker 4: I mean, no matter what mood I mean, I can

2126
01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:33,200
Speaker 4: listen to the master Blaster and there's also this song

2127
01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:36,920
Speaker 4: called by this guy from India called Japa Man called

2128
01:58:37,520 --> 01:58:41,080
Speaker 4: so it's like a meditation song. And you know Japanman

2129
01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:48,960
Speaker 4: uh decided You don't don't You guys don't even know

2130
01:58:49,400 --> 01:58:54,960
Speaker 4: from But that's a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful vocal right here. Producer,

2131
01:58:57,360 --> 01:59:00,720
Speaker 4: one of my greatest producers have passed away, Bobbie Digital Dixon.

2132
01:59:01,320 --> 01:59:01,560
Speaker 1: You know.

2133
01:59:03,600 --> 01:59:06,520
Speaker 4: Is that Donovan Germany is a good producer. You're talking

2134
01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:08,440
Speaker 4: local right are you're talking internationally?

2135
01:59:08,560 --> 01:59:09,160
Speaker 1: Whatever you want?

2136
01:59:09,560 --> 01:59:14,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, Donovan Germany produce and Stephen and Stevie Wan. Now

2137
01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:16,800
Speaker 4: that should be something classic, you know what I mean?

2138
01:59:18,320 --> 01:59:19,080
Speaker 1: Crazy? I love that.

2139
01:59:19,200 --> 01:59:21,800
Speaker 3: How you picked an artist that's here, but you picked

2140
01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:23,280
Speaker 3: the producer that's passed away.

2141
01:59:24,080 --> 01:59:24,520
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no.

2142
01:59:25,160 --> 01:59:26,840
Speaker 4: You wanted the producers were wanted to do it with

2143
01:59:27,040 --> 01:59:32,560
Speaker 4: has passed away, which is Bobbi Bobbi Digital. So the

2144
01:59:32,680 --> 01:59:36,200
Speaker 4: next best producer I know is Donavan Germany who's still alive.

2145
01:59:36,240 --> 01:59:40,200
Speaker 4: And we're able to make such a vision materializes. You

2146
01:59:40,240 --> 01:59:41,600
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, I could see.

2147
01:59:41,400 --> 01:59:42,080
Speaker 1: This record happened.

2148
01:59:42,080 --> 01:59:46,560
Speaker 4: That could happen, definitely, that's gonna happen so because reggae music.

2149
01:59:46,680 --> 01:59:48,680
Speaker 4: Stevie One is an ardent love of reggae music. And

2150
01:59:48,720 --> 01:59:51,200
Speaker 4: I showed it because they performed with Bob Marley before.

2151
01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:53,080
Speaker 5: So we know that he knows.

2152
01:59:54,840 --> 01:59:59,960
Speaker 1: Genius and he's a musical, a musical meca. Yeah. Yeah.

2153
02:00:00,120 --> 02:00:03,480
Speaker 3: Roy Eisley on here from the eyes of brother, and

2154
02:00:03,600 --> 02:00:05,360
Speaker 3: he said that he saw Stevie One the course in the.

2155
02:00:05,360 --> 02:00:09,760
Speaker 1: Street, busy street, and I bet Stevie saw him too,

2156
02:00:15,720 --> 02:00:17,920
Speaker 1: said something for that. Jack said he got in the

2157
02:00:17,960 --> 02:00:18,760
Speaker 1: elevator with him.

2158
02:00:19,080 --> 02:00:22,520
Speaker 4: I was watching TikTok and someone waved on some one

2159
02:00:22,600 --> 02:00:29,320
Speaker 4: show and the brother did this, So I'm like, you're winning, bro.

2160
02:00:34,320 --> 02:00:36,440
Speaker 3: He said, you got an elevator with no one else, Like,

2161
02:00:36,560 --> 02:00:38,480
Speaker 3: first of how you get in the elevator you're blind

2162
02:00:38,560 --> 02:00:39,160
Speaker 3: with no one else.

2163
02:00:39,480 --> 02:00:41,120
Speaker 1: And then he pressed the thing and he said, I

2164
02:00:41,240 --> 02:00:44,560
Speaker 1: see you later on. Man. No, he's photographic memor Man,

2165
02:00:45,040 --> 02:00:47,600
Speaker 1: photographic memory, true, is very true. That's what we Let's

2166
02:00:47,600 --> 02:00:53,440
Speaker 1: talk about. Ringing along? Why why what's going on that record?

2167
02:00:54,920 --> 02:00:56,560
Speaker 1: For that? Forla of a better term, I don't want

2168
02:00:56,560 --> 02:00:58,680
Speaker 1: to use the Jamaican accent, but I got to use

2169
02:00:58,760 --> 02:00:59,040
Speaker 1: him for this.

2170
02:00:59,200 --> 02:01:02,120
Speaker 5: Go ahead, man, ring the alarms.

2171
02:01:02,560 --> 02:01:06,280
Speaker 4: Now that rhythm is a phenomenal and that was produced

2172
02:01:06,280 --> 02:01:10,160
Speaker 4: by Techniques mister Winston Riley, and that was on the

2173
02:01:10,200 --> 02:01:15,760
Speaker 4: Technique label. And the readym is called Stalaga twenty twenty one,

2174
02:01:15,880 --> 02:01:18,839
Speaker 4: nineteen twenty No. Starag is like the prison in Russia,

2175
02:01:20,120 --> 02:01:25,640
Speaker 4: stalinra Yes, Stalag right. So if you don't understand we

2176
02:01:25,720 --> 02:01:29,840
Speaker 4: name rhythms, we call our beats names, right, yeah, we

2177
02:01:29,960 --> 02:01:32,400
Speaker 4: call it. We gave her ridyims names. So that beat

2178
02:01:32,480 --> 02:01:35,680
Speaker 4: is called a staladder and the start is one of

2179
02:01:35,680 --> 02:01:36,480
Speaker 4: the most powerful.

2180
02:01:38,560 --> 02:01:42,800
Speaker 5: Do Do Do Do Do Do Do? It's crazy, yeah,

2181
02:01:42,840 --> 02:01:45,200
Speaker 5: And that was Tennessa.

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Speaker 1: I Records, Yes bring the so.

2183
02:01:50,080 --> 02:01:52,120
Speaker 4: So the irony of that song is like I grew

2184
02:01:52,200 --> 02:01:55,280
Speaker 4: up listening to Tennessa because it was just such a

2185
02:01:55,400 --> 02:01:58,280
Speaker 4: road whar I roll up his pants foot always and

2186
02:01:58,400 --> 02:02:01,040
Speaker 4: it's Gyanzi and when he's on stage of the Flashy

2187
02:02:01,080 --> 02:02:02,840
Speaker 4: Man and hey, you.

2188
02:02:02,880 --> 02:02:06,280
Speaker 5: Know, you know, and then he passed away in Texas.

2189
02:02:06,640 --> 02:02:10,120
Speaker 4: And to find myself years later with this track in

2190
02:02:10,240 --> 02:02:13,640
Speaker 4: a studio working on it was I couldn't action, I

2191
02:02:13,640 --> 02:02:15,839
Speaker 4: couldn't accent on the more than now. It's an amazing

2192
02:02:15,880 --> 02:02:20,000
Speaker 4: feat and I'm happy I was able to accomplish that fire.

2193
02:02:21,360 --> 02:02:22,480
Speaker 1: So let's talk about Estinay.

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02:02:22,880 --> 02:02:27,680
Speaker 4: Oh mama, look when you call me now listening. Come

2195
02:02:27,760 --> 02:02:30,480
Speaker 4: at a painfull point in my life, when a turning

2196
02:02:30,600 --> 02:02:34,200
Speaker 4: point where you know, every ten years a man got

2197
02:02:34,240 --> 02:02:36,640
Speaker 4: two changes in I'm life. Yeah, and that was one

2198
02:02:36,640 --> 02:02:40,520
Speaker 4: of my ten year changes. We are you know, two

2199
02:02:40,640 --> 02:02:42,360
Speaker 4: roles before you pick ach ie kind of thing, you

2200
02:02:42,400 --> 02:02:44,760
Speaker 4: know what I mean. And the spirit came to me.

2201
02:02:44,840 --> 02:02:51,000
Speaker 4: I say, yourself, your servant, this is your role. And

2202
02:02:52,280 --> 02:02:55,000
Speaker 4: I was in California. I matter of fact, I was

2203
02:02:55,040 --> 02:02:59,280
Speaker 4: staying at the Nikkey Hotel on Las Snega Nico Hotel.

2204
02:02:59,360 --> 02:03:02,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Nikki and Nicole. It was a Japanese street.

2205
02:03:02,160 --> 02:03:04,160
Speaker 1: It was a fat burger. Yeah.

2206
02:03:05,160 --> 02:03:12,280
Speaker 4: I found two fucking ondred dollars downstairs that place one day, hotel.

2207
02:03:14,560 --> 02:03:15,160
Speaker 5: I was walking.

2208
02:03:16,320 --> 02:03:19,640
Speaker 1: I don't trust those no, no, no, no no, I

2209
02:03:19,760 --> 02:03:22,800
Speaker 1: don't trust those days. But I was eating burgers. I

2210
02:03:22,920 --> 02:03:23,440
Speaker 1: was just walking.

2211
02:03:23,480 --> 02:03:25,520
Speaker 4: I found two fucking ondred dollars. Roll up first, I

2212
02:03:25,720 --> 02:03:26,879
Speaker 4: phone that I'm one in America.

2213
02:03:27,760 --> 02:03:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2214
02:03:28,880 --> 02:03:32,760
Speaker 4: And I came back to the hotel and I was

2215
02:03:32,800 --> 02:03:35,520
Speaker 4: inspired the rich man because I was looking through the

2216
02:03:35,560 --> 02:03:38,280
Speaker 4: window seeing all this editis in front of the man,

2217
02:03:38,560 --> 02:03:41,520
Speaker 4: I was inspired, but that's all I came about.

2218
02:03:41,800 --> 02:03:46,280
Speaker 5: Basically, I got tell them more, but.

2219
02:03:48,040 --> 02:03:50,320
Speaker 2: I still want to hear the making of this record

2220
02:03:50,320 --> 02:03:53,160
Speaker 2: and told stories and told stories.

2221
02:03:53,240 --> 02:03:55,680
Speaker 4: Now I was I was working on the project card

2222
02:03:55,720 --> 02:03:58,000
Speaker 4: to Shiloh, and we wanted something different.

2223
02:04:00,240 --> 02:04:01,880
Speaker 5: So in those days, I used to go to the

2224
02:04:01,920 --> 02:04:03,760
Speaker 5: studio in the night. No, I go to the studio

2225
02:04:03,800 --> 02:04:04,160
Speaker 5: in the day.

2226
02:04:05,760 --> 02:04:07,280
Speaker 4: I used to go to a studio like six o'clock

2227
02:04:07,320 --> 02:04:11,240
Speaker 4: and until eight o'clock the next morning, sometime twelve o'clock

2228
02:04:11,280 --> 02:04:11,760
Speaker 4: the next day.

2229
02:04:12,640 --> 02:04:13,720
Speaker 5: And one night I came.

2230
02:04:14,120 --> 02:04:16,720
Speaker 4: I came about eleven o'clock and there was this version

2231
02:04:16,760 --> 02:04:18,840
Speaker 4: inside the studio sits't known with his guitar or dread

2232
02:04:18,880 --> 02:04:22,440
Speaker 4: locks arrassed them on in some white Beard and I

2233
02:04:22,480 --> 02:04:25,040
Speaker 4: said the dnavan was going on. He said, that's Glenn Brownie.

2234
02:04:25,240 --> 02:04:28,680
Speaker 4: Won't make a song tonight. Say you want to make

2235
02:04:28,760 --> 02:04:31,520
Speaker 4: a song whatever, I said, we're there's some music shots,

2236
02:04:34,000 --> 02:04:37,560
Speaker 4: so we're going to make us sound only guitar, and

2237
02:04:37,600 --> 02:04:39,320
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, sound good.

2238
02:04:39,960 --> 02:04:43,360
Speaker 5: So he started playing. But I love music and I

2239
02:04:43,400 --> 02:04:44,240
Speaker 5: love the guitar, you know.

2240
02:04:45,000 --> 02:04:46,960
Speaker 4: So once he started playing with us, it was deer

2241
02:04:47,040 --> 02:04:50,080
Speaker 4: until about two o'clock in the night that's what we got.

2242
02:04:51,600 --> 02:04:53,160
Speaker 1: Was that the first time that you made a record

2243
02:04:53,280 --> 02:04:53,440
Speaker 1: like that?

2244
02:04:53,680 --> 02:04:53,880
Speaker 5: Yes?

2245
02:04:54,600 --> 02:04:56,360
Speaker 1: And did it change anything from that point? Because it

2246
02:04:56,480 --> 02:04:59,440
Speaker 1: was different for us? You know?

2247
02:05:00,200 --> 02:05:03,120
Speaker 4: That was also my first Beyond that music, I delve

2248
02:05:03,160 --> 02:05:05,840
Speaker 4: into production myself, where I produce Easier Road and I

2249
02:05:05,960 --> 02:05:09,600
Speaker 4: produce Mighty Dread and I produced Small Acts and I

2250
02:05:09,760 --> 02:05:11,680
Speaker 4: produce Rampage.

2251
02:05:11,280 --> 02:05:12,360
Speaker 5: And I just start producing.

2252
02:05:12,400 --> 02:05:16,440
Speaker 4: But Lantern, right, because I found that there's a direction

2253
02:05:16,600 --> 02:05:19,840
Speaker 4: that I have dalving and making this song and working

2254
02:05:19,880 --> 02:05:22,120
Speaker 4: with Glenn Browne opened me up to all the possibilities

2255
02:05:22,160 --> 02:05:25,840
Speaker 4: that was latent inside of me musically, right, And I

2256
02:05:26,040 --> 02:05:27,680
Speaker 4: you know, because I was primarily.

2257
02:05:27,320 --> 02:05:31,160
Speaker 1: Dance all it's stripped down, it's so full, so.

2258
02:05:31,360 --> 02:05:34,480
Speaker 5: And then you know, yeah, I became more musical, so

2259
02:05:34,600 --> 02:05:35,000
Speaker 5: to speak.

2260
02:05:36,640 --> 02:05:38,080
Speaker 1: So let me ask you. That's my friend right there

2261
02:05:38,200 --> 02:05:41,440
Speaker 1: from Peru, Oh yeah, in Jamaica. Oh yeah. So if

2262
02:05:41,480 --> 02:05:46,000
Speaker 1: he goes to Jamaica, where where do you should sell

2263
02:05:46,080 --> 02:05:46,440
Speaker 1: him to go?

2264
02:05:47,000 --> 02:05:48,840
Speaker 5: What do you what do you interest? What are you interests?

2265
02:05:48,880 --> 02:05:49,600
Speaker 5: What is his interest?

2266
02:05:49,800 --> 02:05:56,160
Speaker 1: He likes to wrestle, wrestle, he likes if you like

2267
02:05:56,240 --> 02:06:02,120
Speaker 1: to wrestle, you're gonna fly past from me. I go

2268
02:06:02,280 --> 02:06:03,560
Speaker 1: to a place on Memphis.

2269
02:06:09,320 --> 02:06:11,160
Speaker 3: For anybody who never came to Jamaica, what is what

2270
02:06:11,280 --> 02:06:13,400
Speaker 3: is some spots that they need Jamaica's experience.

2271
02:06:13,840 --> 02:06:16,440
Speaker 4: You got one hundred and five four square miles to traverse,

2272
02:06:17,080 --> 02:06:20,240
Speaker 4: you got beaches, you got mountains, you got rainforests, you

2273
02:06:20,360 --> 02:06:22,640
Speaker 4: got good cuisine, the best food you can think of,

2274
02:06:23,120 --> 02:06:24,240
Speaker 4: lovely hospitality.

2275
02:06:24,520 --> 02:06:27,520
Speaker 5: So you got from Kingston to Negro to Alcherio's Montago Bay.

2276
02:06:28,560 --> 02:06:29,800
Speaker 5: Those are prime spots.

2277
02:06:29,880 --> 02:06:33,080
Speaker 4: Then you have an claps like Portland that you can

2278
02:06:33,200 --> 02:06:38,040
Speaker 4: still find a beautiful place and have a great Jamaican experience.

2279
02:06:38,840 --> 02:06:41,920
Speaker 5: So I mean I can sell my island all day,

2280
02:06:42,800 --> 02:06:44,400
Speaker 5: go and experience that ship for yourself.

2281
02:06:44,600 --> 02:06:48,640
Speaker 1: Is it nice part to Kingston? Beautiful? Nice part? It's

2282
02:06:48,680 --> 02:06:49,880
Speaker 1: not all gunting? Right?

2283
02:06:50,160 --> 02:06:53,080
Speaker 4: Oh no, No, that's a misnomal like yes, please look,

2284
02:06:54,680 --> 02:06:56,879
Speaker 4: I'm sure you know when you look at the television

2285
02:06:56,880 --> 02:06:59,920
Speaker 4: and show Haiti all the show use young violence. Right

2286
02:07:00,560 --> 02:07:02,480
Speaker 4: you have you've been to eighty. You see that eighty

2287
02:07:02,680 --> 02:07:05,080
Speaker 4: beautiful part, just like what it did to us with Africa.

2288
02:07:05,840 --> 02:07:10,960
Speaker 4: It shows only the represent the dirt road knows beautiful country.

2289
02:07:12,120 --> 02:07:12,800
Speaker 5: Just like Jamaica.

2290
02:07:12,880 --> 02:07:14,240
Speaker 4: You're going to see a lot of zin fence and

2291
02:07:14,280 --> 02:07:16,480
Speaker 4: you're going to hear about the crime. But it's a

2292
02:07:16,520 --> 02:07:20,000
Speaker 4: beautiful country. No, you have to understand these things exist everywhere,

2293
02:07:20,040 --> 02:07:23,960
Speaker 4: and there's a particular demographic who make profit from selling

2294
02:07:24,000 --> 02:07:29,000
Speaker 4: you trauma. Okay, but if you haven't been, excuse me

2295
02:07:29,160 --> 02:07:33,080
Speaker 4: to these places. I have the experience for yourself. I'm

2296
02:07:33,080 --> 02:07:34,879
Speaker 4: not saying that's our kulture.

2297
02:07:34,960 --> 02:07:35,320
Speaker 5: Everywhere.

2298
02:07:35,320 --> 02:07:37,280
Speaker 4: There is good and bad everywhere. But you're not going

2299
02:07:37,320 --> 02:07:39,480
Speaker 4: for a bad experience. You do not plant to see

2300
02:07:39,520 --> 02:07:42,600
Speaker 4: that having a bad experience. You're going for a great experience.

2301
02:07:42,640 --> 02:07:44,880
Speaker 4: So your mind is already geared towards having a good time,

2302
02:07:45,320 --> 02:07:48,760
Speaker 4: so nothing will interfere with that. You understand that you

2303
02:07:48,800 --> 02:07:53,040
Speaker 4: are a sum total of your thoughts. Okay, So that

2304
02:07:53,240 --> 02:07:58,120
Speaker 4: being said, Jamaica is entirely beautiful. Now is it totally safe?

2305
02:07:58,160 --> 02:08:01,320
Speaker 4: One hundred percent? Nowhere in the world is okay, So

2306
02:08:01,400 --> 02:08:04,440
Speaker 4: you'd be mindfully to stay on your six what anywhere

2307
02:08:04,480 --> 02:08:07,360
Speaker 4: you go? Yeah, a soldier right gone on the days?

2308
02:08:07,440 --> 02:08:11,720
Speaker 4: No man not mana anymore. They want to traveler's guide,

2309
02:08:15,120 --> 02:08:16,240
Speaker 4: and I'm up on their phone.

2310
02:08:23,000 --> 02:08:26,800
Speaker 1: Last time I went to Jamaica, nowhere had good weed.

2311
02:08:26,920 --> 02:08:27,800
Speaker 1: But then they said.

2312
02:08:32,000 --> 02:08:35,880
Speaker 3: He just respected Did they say they say, go to

2313
02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:37,920
Speaker 3: the case they got the H grade.

2314
02:08:38,400 --> 02:08:40,520
Speaker 1: Where did you go on? You baby? Yeah, it was

2315
02:08:40,600 --> 02:08:42,280
Speaker 1: like something like that. Did we went to? We went to?

2316
02:08:42,480 --> 02:08:42,800
Speaker 1: We went?

2317
02:08:42,960 --> 02:08:46,080
Speaker 3: No, well, well Capone went the typically gods at Mountain View.

2318
02:08:46,280 --> 02:08:49,800
Speaker 1: Was it I'm saying it right, they found the high grade.

2319
02:08:51,480 --> 02:08:56,080
Speaker 4: Listen to me and see that this stigma somehow died

2320
02:08:56,160 --> 02:08:59,440
Speaker 4: thoughn as a concerned marijuana in my country, I would

2321
02:08:59,560 --> 02:09:03,640
Speaker 4: like to tell myself, and with the advent of the

2322
02:09:04,440 --> 02:09:08,120
Speaker 4: marijuana shop popping up, I still think there's an abundance

2323
02:09:08,200 --> 02:09:09,640
Speaker 4: of adult depends on when did you go?

2324
02:09:09,800 --> 02:09:11,560
Speaker 5: Because what I've seen I've gotten.

2325
02:09:12,200 --> 02:09:16,400
Speaker 4: Is the abundance of herb dispenseries that that that sells

2326
02:09:16,640 --> 02:09:21,360
Speaker 4: good quality. But I'm an I still don't do commercial

2327
02:09:21,520 --> 02:09:24,240
Speaker 4: or by one from the field. To my hand, I

2328
02:09:24,320 --> 02:09:27,200
Speaker 4: don't want that nigger guy, you know what I mean?

2329
02:09:27,920 --> 02:09:30,240
Speaker 4: Because a profit doo inspire, all.

2330
02:09:30,240 --> 02:09:32,280
Speaker 3: Right, because remember back in the days to have used

2331
02:09:32,280 --> 02:09:33,840
Speaker 3: to have black weed, brown weed.

2332
02:09:34,040 --> 02:09:35,520
Speaker 5: No, I don't know what a black weed used to

2333
02:09:35,560 --> 02:09:38,320
Speaker 5: have in Decca in in in Deca.

2334
02:09:38,280 --> 02:09:44,760
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, and purple skunk and

2335
02:09:44,880 --> 02:09:45,520
Speaker 4: properly he is.

2336
02:09:46,080 --> 02:09:47,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that was from the earth.

2337
02:09:48,080 --> 02:09:50,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, screw up from the sun and your grottal

2338
02:09:51,040 --> 02:09:53,760
Speaker 4: and this Saniel. Remember those days used to smoke one

2339
02:09:53,840 --> 02:09:54,560
Speaker 4: giant all day?

2340
02:09:54,840 --> 02:10:04,640
Speaker 1: Yes, I saw smo you know, yeah, yes, bucking doors

2341
02:10:04,760 --> 02:10:07,080
Speaker 1: is a smoke one giant for one being and it

2342
02:10:07,240 --> 02:10:07,920
Speaker 1: just keeps olden.

2343
02:10:08,040 --> 02:10:09,800
Speaker 5: They keep lighting it and it's just feel nice.

2344
02:10:10,360 --> 02:10:13,000
Speaker 4: They have commercialized the herbs so much, even the poor

2345
02:10:13,120 --> 02:10:14,240
Speaker 4: tendency has been reduced.

2346
02:10:15,400 --> 02:10:18,480
Speaker 3: Let me let me tell you, man, I've seen an

2347
02:10:18,520 --> 02:10:21,280
Speaker 3: interview with you, and I believe the brother was from Jamaica,

2348
02:10:21,720 --> 02:10:24,280
Speaker 3: and he kept saying how you preserved yourself? Meaning like

2349
02:10:24,880 --> 02:10:27,800
Speaker 3: you didn't come home looking crazy? You came home looking

2350
02:10:27,880 --> 02:10:29,880
Speaker 3: like like you said you was working out three times

2351
02:10:29,920 --> 02:10:33,680
Speaker 3: a day. But not only that, it was your style.

2352
02:10:34,040 --> 02:10:37,320
Speaker 3: Most people are about, you know, spitting. Most people go

2353
02:10:37,400 --> 02:10:39,880
Speaker 3: to jail and then they lose their style, like so

2354
02:10:39,960 --> 02:10:44,640
Speaker 3: many people lose it because they're not writing it, not practicing, Like,

2355
02:10:44,760 --> 02:10:47,360
Speaker 3: how did you come home and you still sound just

2356
02:10:47,440 --> 02:10:49,480
Speaker 3: as good as you used to sound in several cases

2357
02:10:49,520 --> 02:10:49,960
Speaker 3: even better.

2358
02:10:50,680 --> 02:10:52,560
Speaker 5: You know that place has stopped me.

2359
02:10:53,560 --> 02:10:57,360
Speaker 4: One particular thing that when someone does something to you

2360
02:10:57,480 --> 02:11:00,880
Speaker 4: that he's deciding to hurt you. And then you know

2361
02:11:01,000 --> 02:11:03,040
Speaker 4: in your heart. They're around you. Don't fight with them

2362
02:11:03,080 --> 02:11:06,200
Speaker 4: because no one on earth will ever believe you. It's

2363
02:11:06,280 --> 02:11:09,160
Speaker 4: all a god came to your innocency. But you can

2364
02:11:09,480 --> 02:11:13,040
Speaker 4: give a choice. You can stand that trajectory and steal

2365
02:11:13,160 --> 02:11:18,720
Speaker 4: this bitter motherfucker, or you can forgive them and live

2366
02:11:18,800 --> 02:11:22,840
Speaker 4: your life. The greatest weapon we have against all our

2367
02:11:22,920 --> 02:11:27,800
Speaker 4: adversaries are forgiveness. They don't understand it. They can't see why. Yes,

2368
02:11:29,320 --> 02:11:31,360
Speaker 4: they don't know why you're not hungry. They don't know

2369
02:11:31,440 --> 02:11:33,120
Speaker 4: why you're not bitter. They don't know why you're not

2370
02:11:33,200 --> 02:11:41,280
Speaker 4: traveling that grind, and that drives them mad. So the

2371
02:11:42,040 --> 02:11:49,560
Speaker 4: ability to forgive enable us to continue our life and

2372
02:11:49,680 --> 02:11:52,000
Speaker 4: the path that our father wants us to continue on.

2373
02:11:52,800 --> 02:11:57,040
Speaker 4: The ability to project ourselves outside of the bad circumstances.

2374
02:11:56,320 --> 02:11:59,120
Speaker 5: Into good light is what we have. We're in control

2375
02:11:59,200 --> 02:12:01,880
Speaker 5: of that, Hm, You are in control of that.

2376
02:12:02,880 --> 02:12:06,040
Speaker 4: If you allow them to make you into a monster,

2377
02:12:06,240 --> 02:12:10,560
Speaker 4: they willie my chiefs, dear dear desire right, they would

2378
02:12:10,600 --> 02:12:10,920
Speaker 4: have won.

2379
02:12:12,680 --> 02:12:14,760
Speaker 1: Most people in your position would have got broke down.

2380
02:12:15,080 --> 02:12:17,840
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm telling you, brother, that's the intent. That's the

2381
02:12:17,960 --> 02:12:21,800
Speaker 4: aim of the enemy. Okay, And the only way you

2382
02:12:21,960 --> 02:12:24,720
Speaker 4: circumvent that you have to forgive him. We said, father,

2383
02:12:24,880 --> 02:12:28,720
Speaker 4: forgive him, not because he know what he did, not

2384
02:12:28,840 --> 02:12:30,920
Speaker 4: a bullshit, But you forgiveause they don't know what they did.

2385
02:12:31,000 --> 02:12:33,880
Speaker 1: They know what they did, so you did it there.

2386
02:12:34,760 --> 02:12:38,640
Speaker 1: I would do my work simple. You forgot to meet

2387
02:12:38,680 --> 02:12:43,480
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. No I ah, no, no, Drid. How about Prince?

2388
02:12:43,560 --> 02:12:47,080
Speaker 4: No I meet the King Bob No I of course

2389
02:12:47,240 --> 02:12:51,560
Speaker 4: I of course, I mean Bobby. I give him my

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Speaker 4: cigarette and them care and I don't need to meet

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Speaker 4: the Prince.

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Speaker 1: I just want to thank you, man. I really want

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Speaker 1: to take brother. I want to thank you for all

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Speaker 1: these roles that I can plan.

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Speaker 2: The tour.

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Speaker 1: You say speaking yees so no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I want to drop this thin man.

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Speaker 4: So my tour kicks off. My tour is called overcome

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Speaker 4: a tour. Why the overcome out. Guys have been through

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Speaker 4: a lot, a whole lot, And it was a love

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Speaker 4: of the people, love the Almighty God that brought me

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Speaker 4: to it for me to be here, sitsing't done right

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Speaker 4: now in ninetive America and drink champs.

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Speaker 5: You love the people, nor come upon all those days.

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Speaker 4: So I would say that we have overcome a lot,

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Speaker 4: and this tour exemplifies that spirit of overcoming a lot

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Speaker 4: of people. You're going to adversus in your life, and

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Speaker 4: if you're an overcomer, come out, come celebrate with me,

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Speaker 4: because this is the overcome a.

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Speaker 5: Tour coming you away. One show only to miss is

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Speaker 5: to this.

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Speaker 4: I don't know when you're going to say a next one,

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Speaker 4: but right now we're overcoming and I'm coming over, so

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Speaker 4: be there.

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Speaker 1: No, this is bunch of.

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Speaker 4: Bands and alongside Friday, this is a school singer called Friday.

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Speaker 5: And I love Friday's music, you know.

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Speaker 1: What I mean?

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Speaker 4: And I like his presentation and God did project and

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Speaker 4: we invited him out and he accepted my invitation to

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Speaker 4: be on toward me.

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Speaker 5: So Friday is going to be on the road. The

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Speaker 5: Bucherband and lngside reach.

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Speaker 4: You feeling from Jamaica, giving you some hardcore danceoun music

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Speaker 4: and your soul and let's go.

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Speaker 5: Let's overcome because I'm coming.

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Speaker 3: Like, I just want to say this one more time.

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Speaker 3: I said this on your intro, but I truly believe

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Speaker 3: you're one of the greatest performers on the planet.

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Speaker 5: I try, I might try, like like.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I enjoy doing research when I when.

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Speaker 3: I do this, Like so I was watching your interviews,

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Speaker 3: listening to your music, but when I got start looking

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Speaker 3: at your car service, I could not stop. Like I

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02:15:00,480 --> 02:15:02,840
Speaker 3: just kept looking at how you bring the people and

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02:15:03,000 --> 02:15:05,960
Speaker 3: like you make people cry, you make people like it's

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Speaker 3: just like it's something I've never seen before, Like you

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Speaker 3: know what I.

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Speaker 4: Mean, how I feel it and from I feel it,

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Speaker 4: I want the masters to feel it. Every night is

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Speaker 4: not to see. Sometimes you go there. Your spirit is high,

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02:15:19,680 --> 02:15:25,520
Speaker 4: high high, and sometimes you go there like I was

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02:15:25,600 --> 02:15:32,240
Speaker 4: in Liman, Costa Rica, and the spirit came to me.

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02:15:32,280 --> 02:15:35,040
Speaker 4: I said get up and go to the beach. And

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Speaker 4: I get up and I went to go to the beach,

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Speaker 4: and the security stopped me and said I cannot go

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Speaker 4: to the beach right now because they're doing a loading

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Speaker 4: and they don't want the people on the beach walking

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Speaker 4: into the loading. So I went back to the room

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Speaker 4: and then the promoter came to me and said, you

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02:15:48,320 --> 02:15:50,320
Speaker 4: want to go to the beach. I said yeah. The

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02:15:50,600 --> 02:15:53,120
Speaker 4: security said they're doing a loading. Let them angling business.

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02:15:53,400 --> 02:15:56,760
Speaker 4: He said no, I'm gonna come. I'll take you because

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02:15:56,760 --> 02:15:58,040
Speaker 4: the spirit came to me. I said, you need to

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Speaker 4: go to the beach, but this guy stopped me, so

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Speaker 4: he come someone or to fulfill that.

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Speaker 5: So we went to the beach. While I was standing

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Speaker 5: on the beach, I just felt sad. I don't know why,

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Speaker 5: so sad. I started walking down the beach and the

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Speaker 5: sun came to me saying, I love you, Lord, cous.

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Speaker 1: You mercy, never feace.

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Speaker 4: I said to the guy was in security, I said,

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Speaker 4: you know the song? Let me say yeah, I said,

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Speaker 4: I love this song?

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Speaker 1: Who sing it?

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Speaker 4: So pull it upstart listening to it on the beach

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Speaker 4: and I went back to the hotel room. I spoke

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Speaker 4: to one of my sons about four o'clock and I

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Speaker 4: went on the stage about eight o'clock. While I'm on

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Speaker 4: the stage, I just felt, agreed. Feeling came over me

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Speaker 4: so much that I was at a crying on the stage.

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Speaker 4: Only the coming of the stage. I'm coming to Jamaica.

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Speaker 4: I heard that my son died the same night here

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Speaker 4: in America. I felt that I felt a piece of

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Speaker 4: me left me. I was on the stage, So people

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Speaker 4: feel things. And if I can feel that, what can

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Speaker 4: the masses in front of me feel? If I am

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Speaker 4: being true to myself and my art?

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Speaker 5: Mhm.

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Speaker 4: So It's like the music shan It is a vessel.

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02:17:39,360 --> 02:17:41,640
Speaker 4: That embody is something that when I go out there

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Speaker 4: and impoort the wine. If wine is coming from a

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02:17:44,000 --> 02:17:51,680
Speaker 4: dirty vessel, the wine is dirty fullid sediments. But the

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Speaker 4: wine is coming from a vessel that's clean or palatable

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Speaker 4: one when drink and people go and feed up, lift.

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Speaker 5: Inspired filled. Thank you guys for having me here.

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Speaker 1: You all right, yeah, holy shit.

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Speaker 2: Drink Champs is a drink Champs LLC production hosts and

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Speaker 2: executive producers n O r E and dj e f

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Speaker 2: for another episode of drink Champs hosted by Yours truly,

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Speaker 1: Hazard is Sounds.

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Speaker 4: Rosing the Machines Castrumentals Volume one available now on all platforms.

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Speaker 1: Download today.

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Speaker 4: ROS of the Machines Song Contest seeking out all artists

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Speaker 4: that want to take their career to the next level.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead and join today by downloading the album, picking

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Speaker 3: out your favorite beat, and making a song versu or

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Speaker 3: hook to it submitted to Hazard Sounds at gmail dot

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Speaker 3: com and.

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Speaker 4: You will be judged by celebrity judges dj EFN, Drink

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Speaker 4: Champs owned SB Killer Plantnum producer, and Scram Jones Multiplantum

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Speaker 4: producer as well.

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Speaker 3: Can also summit via ig by recording a video and

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Speaker 3: performing the song.

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Speaker 5: Simply tag Rising the Machine Song Contest and we will

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Speaker 5: repost your video as well.

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Speaker 1: Winners will be announced September seventh.

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Speaker 5: Joined today and may the best artists win