1 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three 2 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: six y five. We are part of the Volume Podcast Network. 3 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: I am Chad Millman or the Action Network, and I'm 4 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: joined as always by my cost my companion Mike Campadre 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: might befa professional better Sigmon Hunter. 6 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: And also I'm in Chad. How are we doing? 7 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: I think you know because of where we spent the 8 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 1: weekend that I love a few things more than the 9 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: city of Chicago. And today we have a staple of 10 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 1: the Chicago sports scene, who, like so many people from Chicago, 11 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: has gone on to incredible heights higher than the Willits 12 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: Tower in his career because Chicago sports fans are so 13 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: good at turning their fandom him into content and turning 14 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: that content into gold. He has now launched into the 15 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: nationally prominent role at Fox Sports. You can catch his 16 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: beautiful face every morning on Breakfast Ball on FS one, 17 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: one of the Windy City's very finest. Welcome back to 18 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: the program, Danny parkins, my. 19 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: Brother, guys, thank you so much for having me on. 20 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 3: It's the Sears Tower forever. You said beautiful face, so 21 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 3: I know you're lying, but. 22 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: Thrill watches this, so it doesn't matter. 23 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: That's true, thank you. And yeah it is true about 24 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: Chicago sports fans. They're the best and the content, if 25 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: not the winning, they forgot the winning part. But the 26 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: content that the teams generate is world class. And the 27 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: city is of course as well. What's going on? Boys? 28 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: So we had an event, a live event with listeners. 29 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: A few hundred people showed up to Jo's on Weed. Oh, classic, classic, right, 30 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: just the best. Every single person when I would mention 31 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: we're doing an event at Joe's on Weed, if they 32 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: have any connection to Chicago, they'd be like, just the best, 33 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:11,399 Speaker 1: like they've seen. 34 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 3: I got hammered with the old CFO of my company 35 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: at a holiday party at Joe at Joe's on Weed. 36 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: That was a good time. It also is just like 37 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 3: the bar name lends itself to a good time, but 38 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 3: there is really Weed Street. But they they they lean 39 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: into it in every way. Big bar, dive bar, reasonably 40 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: priced drinks, the ability for live entertainment. Yeah, very very 41 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: very good spot. Seeing some some good music. There, had 42 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 3: some nights that you forget there. It's it's a good time, 43 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: very good. 44 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: Simon Simon had a night he forgot there. Simon Simon 45 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: disappeared probably about two hours before I thought he would disappear. 46 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: Do you remember why you disappeared? 47 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: Uh? For a woman, But I told you I'm not 48 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 2: a huge drinker, and I literally woke up, went out 49 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: of clients, drink mimosas, and then we started boozing that 50 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 2: I don't even know if not we I should say 51 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: me like one thirty at this party. Parties start till 52 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: four thirty. By the time it hit eight nine o'clock, 53 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, I'm about to start saying things 54 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 2: that I can't say at a company event. So I 55 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 2: made the right move. I got out there at the 56 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 2: right time. I did the I Love you guys on stage, 57 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: and then I just disappeared into the. 58 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: Crowd, a little irish exit by Simon. I respect that. 59 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: It was an irish so On Friday night, Danny Simon 60 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: wanted to go to the White Sox game, and you 61 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: know you're the one we told him that would be 62 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: a terrible idea. I told you might as well go 63 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: to Northern Indiana on the coldest day of the year. 64 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: Were we too harsh? 65 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: Well, I mean the food is great, That's what I 66 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 3: want to know. 67 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: For exactly thank you. 68 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, the food is great. The craft beer selection is fantastic. 69 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 4: Uh. 70 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 3: You know, my guys out in the one o eight 71 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 3: are really cool. Socks fans are a good time, you know. 72 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 3: So all listen. I could think of worse things to do, 73 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: but let's put it this way. I've got a few 74 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: weekends already booked to go back to Chicago this summer, 75 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 3: and the White Sox are not on my agenda. So 76 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: you know, I could think of other things that I 77 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: would do, but if you know, I'm not gonna yuck 78 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 3: your yum. Some people like chocolate, some people like vanilla. 79 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with it, fair enough, all right. 80 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: As the Flowers, Chad, they're two and two. It was 81 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 2: zero and five. 82 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 3: There they are two and two. They are pacing to 83 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 3: not be the worst team in the history of baseball. 84 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: Again, Yeah, that's good for them. As a reminder of 85 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: the Favorite podcast is presented by Bet three six five 86 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: and new Bet three six five. Customers get one hundred 87 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: and fifty dollars and bonus bets when you bet five dollars, 88 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: sign up using promo code Favorites, deposit ten dollars, place 89 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: a bet for five dollars to get one hundred and 90 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: fifty dollars and bonus bets. Those bonus bets can be 91 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: used on spreads, total player props, futures and more, whatever 92 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: the moment. It's never ordinary. 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You immediately struck me as someone who knew 102 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: the language and it was not doing this because, oh, 103 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: betting was the way to get famous. We had Chris 104 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: Filika on the show the other day and we were 105 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: talking about like how things have changed. And for about 106 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: two or three years it was just full of people 107 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: who want to talk betting to get famous. You come 108 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: by it naturally. Yeah, last year. Last year NFL rules changes. 109 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: They moved the kickoff kickoff if it wasn't if it 110 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: was a touchback, went to the thirty new rule change 111 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: as of this week, it goes to the thirty five, 112 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: hoping to get more kickoff returns into the game. It's 113 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: really a you know, it's quite a penalty there to 114 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: get to the thirty five. I felt like going to 115 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: the thirty had a huge impact on betting. Do you 116 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: feel like a thirty five yard line will have a 117 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: huge impact on betting? 118 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I am in favor just from a 119 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 3: watchability standpoint of figuring out ways to get in more 120 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 3: returns into the game. So I think the thrust of 121 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 3: it is good. But it was you know, with how 122 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 3: hot the kickers started last year in the NFL. You 123 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: could get a touchback to the thirty, get two or 124 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 3: three first downs, and then Brandon Aubrey was banging field 125 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,239 Speaker 3: goals through fifty five fifty seven yards like it was nothing, 126 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 3: and it was you know, like obviously that makes the 127 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 3: totals go up, and that's a place where you can 128 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: see it. You know, you could put more of a 129 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 3: value on teams with strong kickers. I advocated for the 130 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: Arena League actually, and like the narrowing of the uprights 131 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 3: because that was like the unintended consequence that I just 132 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: didn't like about it was that it made it felt 133 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 3: like it made the goal was to make kickers less impactful, 134 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 3: to make for more returns and exciting plays on special teams, 135 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 3: but it made them matter more because we saw more 136 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 3: field goal attempts, and we saw more long field goal attempts, 137 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 3: and I'm just not interested in that at all, both 138 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 3: from a gambling perspective and a watching the game perspective, 139 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 3: Like if I play fantasy football, I want to play 140 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: in leagues that don't have kickers because it just is 141 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 3: just not a part. It's not a fun part of 142 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 3: the game for me. So I do think that anything 143 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 3: that you know is an advantage to the offense, especially 144 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 3: with how kickers are performing nowadays. It's a thing that 145 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 3: will get baked in to the totals probably and it'll 146 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: make the expected points in the game go up. 147 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: Simon, I think this plays to our advantage. 148 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 3: I do. 149 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: I feel like I was already leaning towards regression, meaning 150 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: last year was such a heavy favorite team year, we 151 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: were worried that could this be a sea change. I 152 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: don't think so anymore. As I've been doing some off 153 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: season work, I'm starting to think more and more that 154 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: this will regress back, and this could have been an anomaly. 155 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: And I actually think this plays to our advantage because 156 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: I do think there will be more returns and few 157 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: and fewer teams who are putting themselves in a position 158 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: to have to defend offenses that are starting at the 159 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: thirty five yard line. 160 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: And that's the biggest issue chat is that I'm honestly 161 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: going the other way. I think it might be more talky. 162 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: I just think they did the wrong thing. They should 163 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: have pushed it back five yards. I'm moving up another 164 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: five because it's like we talked about, all right, a 165 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: team gets about the thirty five, right, they get a 166 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 2: first down. Let's say they pick up twelve yards, so 167 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: now they're three yards away, four yards away from the fifty. 168 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 2: It's just gonna it's completely changing the game. If you 169 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: have a quarterback like Jane Daniels, like you know my 170 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: Homes whoever, You're gonna keep going for on the fourth 171 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 2: downs if you're at midfield because it's just worth the risk, right, 172 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 2: And we already talked about it. These teams with these 173 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 2: great quarterbacks, they're happy to trade fourth down failures for 174 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: their team kicking threes right, the other team gets the 175 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: ball the midfield, the kick a field goal. That's a 176 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 2: win for them, Like they're gonna get the ball back 177 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: and they might get it back again at the thirty five. 178 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 2: So to me, I'm gonna be really busy the next 179 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 2: two three days check because a a lot of books 180 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: have already put out there. They're basically divisional odds. I'm 181 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 2: gonna be taking heavy positions on favorites like the Bills, 182 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, the Houston, these teams that you know, we 183 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: already think they're the best in the division. These these 184 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: to me, this kickoff only helps those teams that have 185 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: the great quarterbacks versus the teams that do not like 186 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: the difference to these quarterbacks. Now we've seen it now 187 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 2: like we had the date after last year's season, these 188 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: teams were just so willing to go for I mean, 189 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: I can't tell you how many times teams won for 190 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 2: a chat on their own forty, on their own thirty 191 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 2: eight when they're winning, Like we never seen that in 192 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: the history of football. We saw the multiple times happen 193 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: last year, it's going to be even more extreme to me. 194 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, very very unique time perer living in right now. 195 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: Check because they're just doing these little little rule changes. 196 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,599 Speaker 2: But it's becoming a big deal for someone like me 197 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: and you that we love betting dogs. I fucking hate 198 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 2: betting favorites, and we have to bet favorites. I'm telling you, 199 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: we just we're gonna have to suck it up, brother 200 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 2: and just bet favorites. 201 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 3: I think that's such an old school thought though, Like 202 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 3: I hate betting favorites. Why if they win, just like 203 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 3: you just have to know the trend right Like it 204 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 3: used it used to be that it was fun to 205 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 3: bet dogs because you know, if if your premise holds right, 206 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 3: Like I, I don't care what side I'm on as 207 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 3: long as I think it's the winning side. Like if 208 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 3: the value is in laying six because the spread should 209 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 3: be seven and a half, I have no problem with that. 210 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 3: Like I think, like you know, it used to be 211 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 3: like Scott van Pelt was like fade the public, and like, sure, 212 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 3: that's a good idea in the aggregate, like bet underdog. Sure, 213 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: But I think to your point, maybe that's not gonna 214 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 3: be the case for the next five years. I certainly 215 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 3: wish that I had had more chalky picks in my 216 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 3: NCAA tournament survivor pools and my brackets, you know what 217 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 3: I mean, Like there's something too recognizing where the trend 218 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 3: is going, Like it's an obvious point, Like I know 219 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: this is what you're talking about, but like what's happened 220 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 3: in college basketball right now with the nil money being 221 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: spread out amongst the Power five schools, so the smaller 222 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 3: schools just don't have the money to keep the players. 223 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 3: It makes perfect sense that this would be a year 224 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: where the SEC and the Big ten in conferences like 225 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 3: that would dominate and advance their teams. And so I 226 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 3: wish that I had thought of that and like taking 227 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 3: a harder position on it. But you know, Houston's done 228 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: well for me, and like, you know, I'm doing okay, 229 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 3: but it's I am not as beholden to like the 230 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 3: smart play is backing the underdog. I'm not sure the 231 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: smart play is to know where the trend of the 232 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,599 Speaker 3: sport is going. Because I had a great year in 233 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 3: the NFL last year, like sixty five percent on the show, 234 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: and people would my mentions like gambling Twitter was in 235 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 3: my mentions, Oh, you're laying the wood on three favorites 236 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 3: in week fourteen, And then I'm like, yeah, have you 237 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 3: seen how the season's been going? And then I'd go 238 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 3: three and oh, and then of course it's crickets. Like 239 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 3: I just I think you gotta be nimble with that, 240 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 3: with that sort of thinking, and if you're right and 241 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 3: there's edge here on if favorites being undervalued again, I 242 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 3: wouldn't hate it, I'd cash it. 243 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: But that's that's the problem though, it's not I mean, 244 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 2: you know, Danny, it's not this easy, like that's that's 245 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 2: the show. Like I'm in line at the book. The 246 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: guy in front of me is like, yeah, I got 247 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: the Ravens this week, I got the Eagles, I got 248 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: the Bills, and I got you know, the Chiefs. All right. 249 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: Back in the day, that guy would be lucky to 250 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: go to and two. He was going four and oh 251 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: every other week Like that does not happen on the spread. 252 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: Like usually the books catch up to those guys, so 253 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: they know the public's gonna bet those high teams. But 254 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 2: like the books gonna catch up to it, neither could 255 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: me and Chat. Because Me and Chat have made a 256 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 2: living betting on the Panthers. We made a living betting 257 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: on the Raiders. Like these teams that suck with bad quarterbacks, 258 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 2: But like you just talked about, the game has changed 259 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: so much because these teams now are just like, fuck it, 260 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: we'll go for it on fourth down on our own 261 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 2: forty because if we fail here, we'll stop them. They'll 262 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: kick a three, we'll get back, We'll go get drive 263 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: the field, get another seven. Like it's just totally changed. 264 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: I'm with you, it's just I'm trying to catch up 265 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: to it because I don't mind betting favorites. It's just tough. 266 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: Me and you have to give five picks every week, 267 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: and the weeks we picked four favorites to one dog 268 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: Me and Chad both feels sick to our stomach, even 269 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: if it does win. It just feels unnatural to us 270 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 2: because we've both been doing this for for fifteen years 271 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: and we're just. 272 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 3: Trust me, trust me, I feel you, but go four 273 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 3: and one on your favorites. I don't give them. 274 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: Look historically, historically you want to be on the same 275 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: side as the sports book. That to me, is where 276 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: we ultimately want to end up. It's hard to be 277 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: on the same side as the sports book when the 278 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: sportsbook doesn't want to be on the side of the favorites, 279 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: because that means that everybody is on the same side, right, 280 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: And so how do we reconcile going into a year 281 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: where we want to be ahead of the tend also 282 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: knowing that there's been one or two years in the 283 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: history of sports betting against the spread where like you, 284 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: you haven't won if you were on the same side 285 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: at the sportsbook. I think that's the bigger sort of 286 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: mind meld that we have to get into. 287 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 3: I think that's right. I just you know, you don't 288 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 3: know what the trend is going to be at the 289 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 3: beginning of the year, and trends can change and all 290 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: of that. So you know, put your numbers out and 291 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 3: then if you if you again, if you if you 292 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 3: think it should be seven and a half and it's six, 293 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 3: lay the six. You know, if you if you think 294 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 3: it's it should be four and a half and it's six, 295 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 3: take the plus six like it's it's a It's the 296 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 3: simplest I think that, like going in with a completely 297 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 3: overarching strategies, you know, you want to have positions, you 298 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 3: want to have beliefs. You want to believe in teams, 299 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 3: but you also got to just like watch the games 300 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 3: and trust your eyes, like and like adapt to it quickly, 301 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 3: like if you would if you caught on early last 302 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 3: year with Washington, You're like, oh, yeah, this is real, 303 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 3: Like this isn't flukey, Like you can you can snipe 304 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: some opportunity in that spot. So I don't know what 305 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 3: the story of this year will be. I doubt it 306 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 3: will be favorites again to your point, but there will 307 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 3: be some team out there that covers as a favorite 308 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: a bunch, and there will be some team out there 309 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 3: that covers as a dog a bunch like, so like 310 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: it's not you know what I mean, it's not You 311 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 3: don't have to be like I am on team fade 312 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 3: the public, or I am on team Favorite, or I'm 313 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: on team underdog. Like I think that there are within 314 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 3: the course of a of a season, a team, a 315 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: stretch of time, there are just opportunities out there. But 316 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 3: it's obviously, listen, betting the NFL is the hardest thing 317 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: to do. It's the sharpest thing in the world. So 318 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 3: it's very, very very difficult to just literally, to use 319 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 3: your phrase, make a living like I don't know if 320 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: you're being accurate or not, like, but like, you know what, 321 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 3: I mean, to actually like make a living betting the 322 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 3: NFL exclusively is almost impossible. 323 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: So now you've got a big time TV job. 324 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 3: I do not make it a living betting the NFL. 325 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: That's right, Because you've got a big time TV job. 326 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: You can't give that up. When you were in Chicago 327 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: doing Chicago radio, it was to me the most natural fit, 328 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: like a Chicago guy who loves Chicago, loves Chicago sports. 329 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: How do you go through the process, deciding process of deciding, 330 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: all right, I'm going to take my shot, I'm going 331 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: to move, I'm going to take my family. We're going 332 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: to leave this very comfortable life where you can make 333 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: a very good living for a very long time to 334 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: go on TV and have to talk about everybody. 335 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 3: I wasn't worried about the talking about everybody thing. Like 336 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: I think that that's like way overstated from outside of 337 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 3: the industry. Like obviously I miss some of the subject 338 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 3: matter of the radio show, but I didn't like some 339 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 3: of the subject matter of the radio show too, Like 340 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 3: talking about a bad baseball team in June is not fun. 341 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 3: I'd rather talk NBA playoffs, and I'd rather talk NFL transactions, 342 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 3: and you know what I mean, that sort of thing. 343 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 3: So like the subject matter, Yeah, I wish I could 344 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 3: do more Bears, but I do some Bears, and I 345 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 3: have other outlets for that sort of thing. That that 346 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 3: that piece of it was not even a factor at all. 347 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 3: I like new challenges. This was very unexpected, the TV situation, 348 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 3: Like I thought I was going to do afternoons in 349 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 3: Chicago for forever. To your point, I was making a 350 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,959 Speaker 3: good living and I would have been happy there. But 351 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 3: there's also just man, there's the there's the brass tacks 352 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 3: of I have a five year old and assume to 353 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 3: be three year old, and I like taking nice vacations 354 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: and playing golf at expensive golf courses. Like the radio world, 355 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 3: like all of this stuff is changing and in many 356 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 3: cases shrinking, And so I had to be honest with 357 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 3: myself of like, in five years, am I making more 358 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 3: money and bigger, making the same amount of money and 359 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 3: as relevant or making less money and less relevant if 360 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 3: I stayed at my current spot versus going on national 361 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 3: TV obviously making more money and being less relevant in 362 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 3: one place but more relevant in everywhere else. And it 363 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 3: was a pretty obvious decision when you just put it 364 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,479 Speaker 3: through the calculus of like, my job is to provide 365 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 3: for my family. So it was, you know, there are 366 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 3: things that I miss about radio. I I'll do hits 367 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 3: on the Score. I'm hosting my radio thon on the 368 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 3: Score this summer. I still have great relationships with all 369 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 3: the people there. I filled in for mad Dog on 370 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 3: Mad Dog Sports Radio. When we do that again this summer, 371 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 3: you know, so I still get to scratch the radio itch. 372 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 3: And who knows where my career goes or where the 373 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 3: industry goes. But I mean, just on like the brass 374 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 3: tacks of the bottom line, it was it was not 375 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 3: a difficult decision. 376 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: Do you feel like the relevance has changed? Can you 377 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: Is there a tangible feeling from being on television on 378 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: FS one that you experience on a daily basis? That 379 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 1: is is it social media? Is it people stopping on 380 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: the street? How does it? What does it look like? 381 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, like I'm so new to TV compared 382 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 3: to radio that like, you know, I definitely get like 383 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 3: stopped on the street more in Chicago than I do 384 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 3: in New York City, just based on like years of 385 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 3: time spent and like the consolidation of your audience in 386 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,959 Speaker 3: one place versus now it's in so many different places 387 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 3: and so consumed on digital and all of that. But like, 388 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 3: but Nick Wright gets stopped in one hundred countries, you 389 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like, so like there's a there's 390 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 3: a there's a pathway to that part. But again, I'm 391 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 3: happy to sit at home and play golf and like 392 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 3: that's not that doesn't really do it for me, but 393 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 3: like that you definitely feel listen, radio is super personal. 394 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 3: You're in people's cars. It's like very like one on one. 395 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 3: You know, I can talk about my kids, I can 396 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 3: talk about embarrassing failures around the house. Like they know 397 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 3: you better in radio then they will ever know you 398 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 3: more personal level on television. And so like that connection 399 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 3: is definitely something that I miss. And in radio, we 400 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 3: had a text line, you know, so like a live, 401 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 3: interactive text chat with your audience that is absolutely not 402 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: something that exists on television. So yes, like if you 403 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 3: want to get a thought to me on my sports 404 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 3: take on television, you've got to be watching it live 405 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 3: and then tweet to me. And I have to check 406 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 3: my mentions in a commercial break. It is three and 407 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 3: a half minutes when I'm getting ready for the next segment, 408 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 3: and I'm sitting next to Marshal Earth and Craig Carton, 409 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 3: and I got a producer in my ear, and I 410 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 3: got makeups being touched with you know what I mean, 411 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 3: I am not really interacting with an audience while live 412 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 3: on television. As you can choose how much you want 413 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,239 Speaker 3: to like consume the feedback to TV. It's like they 414 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 3: post clips on Instagram and Twitter and TikTok or wherever, 415 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 3: like and if I if I opt in to the 416 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 3: feedback by reading the comments, then I can get some 417 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 3: of it. But like it's also a lot easier to 418 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: remove yourself from the critique and feedback of your content 419 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 3: on television, which is like pretty healthy, honestly. So I 420 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 3: again to be clear, I'm talking about both sides of 421 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 3: my mouth. Like I miss some of the relevancy and 422 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 3: the live interaction and the live feedback of radio. It's 423 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 3: exhilarating where it's like you're getting live feedback where people 424 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 3: are making jokes, participating with your topics and like participating 425 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 3: in it and building Like that's the beauty of radio. 426 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 3: So that is not something that exists on television, obviously, 427 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 3: but it's a lot healthier to just like, here's the topic, 428 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 3: here's the topic, prepare for the topic, do the best 429 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 3: job you can on the topic, and then keep it 430 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 3: moving Like that is a much healthier way to interact 431 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 3: with feedback because then the majority of the feedback that 432 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 3: you do get in real life is someone coming up 433 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 3: to you on the street and being like, hey, what's up, man? 434 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,719 Speaker 3: I love the show, love your work. Can I get 435 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 3: a picture as opposed to some of the crazy negative 436 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 3: shit that you'll get on social media, which, to be clear, 437 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 3: I still get I get a lot of it, but 438 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 3: you have to. If you get it, you're seeking it out, 439 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 3: and so then it's like, well, you can't let it 440 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 3: bother you. I seeked it out. If I didn't want it, 441 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 3: I could just ignore it. So I hope that answered 442 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 3: your question. But it's very different. 443 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's fascinating, and you're right about the radio stuff. 444 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: There is an intimacy there. 445 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 3: Oh it's the best. 446 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: It's going for so much longer. You've got to fill 447 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: so much time. Your tone is different, it's not as 448 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: performative as television. 449 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's something not as performative, I think is like 450 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 3: a negative connetition. There's definitely a performance to television, no doubt. 451 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 3: I would say that there's a performance to good radio also, 452 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 3: But it's it's just you've got four hours a day, 453 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 3: five days a week local radio, especially Bears, Cubs, Bulls, 454 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 3: White Socks, issues that affect Chicago are your main subject matters. 455 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 3: But some days it's like, all right, it's May nineteenth. 456 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 3: The Cubs are two games over five hundred, the White 457 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 3: Sox are nine games on there, the Bears haven't done anything, 458 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 3: the Bulls and the Blackhawks are eliminated, and it's like, 459 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 3: let's tell a story about parenting, you know what I mean, 460 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 3: and just try to be funny and relatable. Or let's 461 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 3: talk to your producer about his new girlfriend. Or the 462 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 3: way to make a perfect steak and how he taught 463 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 3: me how to use a cast iron and then I 464 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 3: washed it with soap and he took the cast iron 465 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 3: that he gave me back, like because I had, you know, 466 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 3: desecrated the art of the cast iron. Or how I 467 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 3: had my nanny push my car out of the snow 468 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 3: because she was stronger than me, like you know what 469 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 3: I mean, Like I can't get these stories off on TV, 470 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 3: and so that it's the it's the it's the personal 471 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 3: nature of talking about your brother with brain cancer, talking 472 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 3: about your new child, talking about the stupid argument you 473 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 3: got in with your wife, like all of that is 474 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 3: super relevant on radio and in some ways in podcasting, 475 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 3: and there's just no lane for it when we're talking 476 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 3: about where Aaron Rodgers's next team is going to be. 477 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 3: I do I do miss that, to be clear, but 478 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 3: it's I don't miss it enough to like be like 479 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 3: I took the wrong job, like I you know what 480 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm fine. I'm fine with that. The way 481 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 3: is something that is different. 482 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: Do you have an opinion on where Aaron Rodgers should 483 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: go at this point, it's it's basically the Steelers are nothing. 484 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I said the Steelers at the you know, 485 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 3: with like a week to go in the regular season, 486 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 3: because my whole thing on Rogers was he just dominates 487 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 3: the news cycle so much that it's exhausting talking about 488 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 3: him if he's on a bad team. And apparently it's 489 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 3: impossible for the Steelers to be bad, like they can't 490 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 3: win in the playoffs, but at least they will play 491 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 3: games that are on Monday night, Sunday night, Thursday night, 492 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 3: and they will win more than fifty percent of them 493 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 3: because Mike Tomins never had a losing year and so 494 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 3: at least you can like justify talking about Aaron Rodgers 495 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 3: and Mike Tomlin. It will be interesting, like the Jets 496 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 3: stopped being interesting in Week four. And so the Steelers, Okay, 497 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 3: we'll get two games against Burrow, we'll get two games 498 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 3: against Lamar. He'll go to Chicago to play the Bears. 499 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 3: The Packers will go to Pittsburgh. Like Aaron Rodgers and 500 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 3: the Steelers will be worth our collective attention and oxygen 501 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 3: if he's in Pittsburgh. And it was, I mean, it 502 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 3: was just such a waste of time with all the 503 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 3: amount of time we spent talking about the guy with 504 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 3: the injured season and then five wins last year that 505 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 3: I kind of like grew to resent it. So Pittsburgh 506 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 3: is where I want him to go because I know 507 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 3: as long as he's playing, we're gonna be talking about him. 508 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: Have you come to a consensus on the Chicago Bears 509 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: winning the offseason and what that means for the. 510 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 3: Third straight year, by the way, for this was the 511 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 3: you know they talked about the Chiefs not being able 512 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 3: to three peat. There's an active three peat there is. 513 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: It's pretty impressive. 514 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 3: Actually, thank you. 515 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: When we were in Chicago, you know so many Bears fans, 516 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: and every single conversation I had was we won the 517 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: off season. And I'm like, you know what, we won 518 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: the off season When two years ago I bet him 519 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: at fifty to one to win the Super Bowl it 520 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 1: got down to twenty to one. I'm like, I am 521 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: so ahead of the market. This is our year, DJ 522 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: Moore is the exact solution for Justin Fields. Didn't happen 523 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: last year. I didn't get ahead of it. I did 524 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: not bet the Bears over eight and a half wins. 525 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: I was never disappointed because I had very low expectations. 526 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: This year, I'm trying really hard. I am like, really 527 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: trying to be the smart, thoughtful Bears fan who doesn't 528 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: get ahead and believes that all of a sudden we 529 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: fixed everything because we spent money on a coach. 530 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 3: What kind of way is that to live? You know 531 00:27:55,400 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 3: it's out listen for gambling purposes. That's totally fine, and 532 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 3: this is a gambling podcast. So faith fading Bears optimism 533 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 3: is a very profitable strategy historically, so I have So 534 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 3: from that standpoint, I want to be very clear I 535 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 3: support fading Bears optimism, like feel free to take your unders, 536 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 3: but like man, life is too short to not believe 537 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 3: that the next solution could be the one that's dumb. 538 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 3: Like I wanted the Bears to draft to Sean Watson, 539 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 3: they drafted Mitch Trubisky. We ended up both being wrong. 540 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 3: They should have taken Patrick Mahomes. Yes, then I wanted 541 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 3: them to trade up for Justin Fields. I supported that trade. 542 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 3: I had. I threw a QB one party celebrating the 543 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 3: arrival of the Bears having a franchise quarterback after he 544 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 3: had one hundred and seventy five rushing yards against the Dolphins. 545 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 3: That was a very exciting game. In hindsight, I should 546 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 3: have been a little bit more measured because it was 547 00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 3: a rushing performance passing performance. But like what if you 548 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 3: then be like, well, I can't fall for Caleb Williams 549 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 3: because of Mitch Trubisky and Justin Fields. It's like, well 550 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 3: that's boring. That's then you're defeated. Then you may as 551 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 3: well go be a you know, go go be a 552 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 3: Lions fan, Go go go be a commander's fan, Like, 553 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 3: that's that's that's dumb. So from the gambling standpoint, I'm 554 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 3: here for the citizens. When I hear my guy big 555 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 3: Cat being like, oh, I'm not six out of ten excitement, 556 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 3: I'm not going above six out of ten excitement, I'm like, why, Like, 557 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 3: that's that's part of the fun of fandom, Colin was 558 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 3: you know fan is short for fanatic, Like it's you 559 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 3: gotta you gotta fall for it. If you don't fall 560 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 3: for it, you honestly shouldn't watch sports. You should just 561 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 3: stop watching sports. 562 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: Here's what I think we have going for us. I 563 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: think the fact that ownership, and this is terrible to say, 564 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: but the fact that Virginia McCaskey passed away, I think 565 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: changes some of the feelings around the team and how 566 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: this team is managed and who knows what happens next. 567 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: Don't give me that face, because that has been that 568 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: The McCaskey family's ownership of this team has been a 569 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: challenge since nineteen eighty five. 570 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 3: Sure, the Bengals were the Bungles and then they got 571 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, Like they didn't become the ownership did become good. 572 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 3: They just got Joe Burrow. That's it, That's all that happened. 573 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 3: They got Joe Burrow. The Chiefs didn't win a single game, 574 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 3: one regular season game with a quarterback that they drafted 575 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 3: from Todd Blackledge to Patrick Mahomes. That was the Like 576 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 3: now they won, you know, Trent Green Joel Montana out. 577 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 3: But like things change, things change, And so I think, listen, 578 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 3: I think that Kevin Warren and the BIS side paying 579 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 3: Ben Johnson a bunch of money is obviously a departure 580 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 3: from their history with coaches. I think that's totally fair. 581 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 3: But Matt Nagy was a hot coaching candidate. They hired him. 582 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 3: John Fox had won a Super Bowl and was relatively 583 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 3: expensive for the time they had hired him. Like, they 584 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 3: haven't gotten it right at coach and quarterback my entire life. 585 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 3: That's impossible. It's an Now you can say, well, the 586 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 3: common thread there, dummy, is the McCaskey family. And I'm 587 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 3: with you on that, like to a certain extent. But 588 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,719 Speaker 3: I just think that like, if Caleb Williams is awesome 589 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 3: and Ben Johnson is awesome, Virginia McCaskey could have lived 590 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 3: to be one hundred and forty and the Bears would 591 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 3: have been awesome. Like, you know, I really do think that, 592 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 3: like you have to get your quarterback and your coach, 593 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 3: and then everything else you can kind of figure out. 594 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 3: And I'm cautiously optimistic that they have their quarterback coach. 595 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 3: But again, I've felt that way before, cautiously Matt Maggie. 596 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: Higher, cautiously optimistic or rapidly over the top having a 597 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: good time optimistic. 598 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 3: Okay, so here's the other part about it now, Like 599 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 3: I there are some people in our line of work, 600 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 3: we'll say my line of work the opinion space, more local. 601 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: Professional capital j journalist over here. 602 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know you're handicappers. You got 603 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 3: Simon saying that he's made a living batting the Carolina Panthers. 604 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 3: Not positive that's exactly true. But we'll see. Uh. I 605 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 3: some people are not willing to like make a prediction 606 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 3: on the front end and be wrong, Like they're like, well, 607 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 3: I'll just like kind of play it down the middle, 608 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 3: and like there are literally hosts that I have worked 609 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 3: with in Chicago. I don't make predictions. I don't pick games. 610 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 3: It's like, man, I am totally comfortably being wrong because 611 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 3: I've gambled my whole life, Like I, I know that 612 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 3: you could be great at this and be four out 613 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 3: of ten times. So Ryan Poles has done a lot 614 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 3: of the things that I said I wanted him to 615 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 3: do on like the front end. You know, I wanted 616 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 3: them to draft Caleb Williams. I wanted them to draft 617 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 3: Roma doonsay. I said they should have taken Jalen Carter 618 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 3: instead of Darnell Wright. I wanted them to take George 619 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 3: Pickens instead of Jakwan Brisker. I wanted them to hire 620 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 3: Ben Johnson, like so, you know, a couple of picks 621 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 3: he didn't do, but the big ones he did, so, 622 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 3: Like I I feel like they're doing this the right way. 623 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 3: They upgraded their offensive line significantly in the off season. 624 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 3: Kayleb Williams got sacked sixty two times last year, and 625 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 3: he was actually pretty good. Like if you look at 626 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 3: I did it on the show. If you do quarterbacks 627 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 3: who have been sacked sixty or more times like those seasons, 628 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 3: and then you look at their touchdown interception ratio and 629 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 3: passer rating, his is the best by far. Now it's 630 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 3: not good players. It's David Carr's. You know. Randall Conningham 631 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 3: was awesome, but his season where he got sack sixty 632 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 3: times wasn't and a couple of other guys who had 633 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 3: disaster seasons, like I think for the fact that that 634 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 3: happened to him as a rookie. They fired his head coach, 635 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 3: they fired his play caller. They lost ten straight games, 636 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 3: including in some just ridiculous fashion like that Hail Mary. 637 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 3: And he's still at the end of it, started seventeen games, 638 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 3: showed toughness, showed poise, showed improvement, and only threw six picks. 639 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 3: Like I think he's a stud man, I really do. 640 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 3: And Ben Johnson was the best coach they could have hired. 641 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 3: So I'm as optimistic as I am allowed to be. 642 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 3: I'm not picking them to win the Super Bowl, but 643 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 3: in terms of the long term outlook of the Bears, 644 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 3: I think they're clearly still a bye. Like I think 645 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 3: that their next five years are going to be very 646 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 3: good and they're going to win a lot of games. 647 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: Well, now I'm turning it up to eleven. 648 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 3: I was saying, like, what other than the uniform is 649 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 3: cursed and it just never works out, and so I 650 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 3: should just be cynical because that's my nature, Like what 651 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 3: about the Bears do do we not like? 652 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: I feel like that's enough. 653 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 3: See, I disagree. I feel like losing money every day 654 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 3: on the twenty sixteen Cubs. 655 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: I love the twenty sixteen Cubs. 656 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 3: That is a why. I know why they had never 657 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 3: won before. They were cursed. 658 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they got over it. So you're saying 659 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: that the Bears will get over this. I'm saying I'm 660 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: gonna in twenty sixteen. My enthusiasm for the Cubs built 661 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: over the course of a season. My enthusiasm for the 662 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: Bears will build over the course of the season. 663 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 3: But yours. Okay, See this is again where we disagree. 664 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 3: Coming off of twenty the twenty fifteen Cubs, they won 665 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 3: ninety seven games. They're a good team. Yeah, so now 666 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 3: the band say they were not a good team. The 667 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 3: Bears have going for that. 668 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: Let me let me give you some context. And I 669 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: know Simon wants to jump in here because he wants 670 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: to hear about something other than the Bears. But let 671 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: me give you context right now. What you just you 672 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: just talked about your beautiful family and wanting to provide 673 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: for your family. Let me give you a scene. Okay, 674 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 1: it's two thousand and three, my first son is three 675 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: months old. I'm living in Manhattan, Midtown on the East 676 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: Side on fifty seventh Street between Lex and Third. My 677 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: wife is sleeping. It's eleven o'clock at night. I've got 678 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 1: my son sleeping on my chest, and bartment happens like 679 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: I've got the scars over a lifetime where I will 680 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: not be enthusiastic until it's time to be enthusiastic. 681 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 3: Ohhen I was in high school, I almost cried. Okay, 682 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 3: Like I understand I was way too old to be 683 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 3: crying or a verge of tears over a sporting event. 684 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 3: But my point is is if you have given up hope, 685 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 3: then just trade stocks and go to the theater, like 686 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 3: there's no reason to care about sports given up hope. 687 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 3: It's unscripted. We don't know what's going to happen. And 688 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 3: I don't believe in magic or curses or goblins, so 689 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 3: I don't believe that just like inherently the Bears are 690 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 3: cursed because they haven't won a Super Bowl in my lifetime. 691 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 3: That's I've seen too many other teams, including the Cubs, 692 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,439 Speaker 3: overcome it so and change reputations alone. Now listen, would 693 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 3: this be a lot easier to say if Cayleb Williams 694 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 3: just had the season that Jayden Daniels had, Yes it would, 695 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 3: Yes it would. But that's why you need people like 696 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 3: me on that wall to be optimistic in the face 697 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 3: of overwhelming negativity and pessimism from cynics like Chad Millman. 698 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, when I think about happening and I think about optimism, 699 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about Danny Parker's the first right, It's the 700 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: first thing I said. 701 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 3: That's right about. That's right. No, I'm not a cold hearted, 702 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 3: sarcastic son of a bitch. I'm a I'm a I'm 703 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 3: a cock eyde optimist. 704 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: By the way, give it time, your TV star, you're 705 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 1: living You're not living in the Midwest anymore. Give it time, Simon, 706 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 1: those win super Bowls all the time. 707 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 2: Well just still even piggyback off that real quick, Chad, 708 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 2: Like I always wondered people on TV, like, all day 709 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 2: I think about football. Honestly, even at night, I'm thinking 710 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 2: of football. Someone like you, are you always thinking about 711 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 2: hot takes? Or do you just say shit on TV? 712 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 2: And then later someone's like, oh, that was a hot take. 713 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 2: You don't even thinking about you just said it that happened. 714 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 2: Do you pre playing that stuff because sometimes, I mean, 715 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,399 Speaker 2: I've seen it, You've come across my timeline just because 716 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 2: I'm an Eagles fan, I've seen your Jalen Hurt stakes. 717 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 2: We don't need to get into that. There's enough enough 718 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 2: enough time here to get into it. 719 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 5: But do you plan that we got get into it. 720 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 5: Would you trade Jalen Hurts for Josh Allen? Would I 721 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 5: trade Jalen Hurts for Josh Allen? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, Well. 722 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 3: Then we're fine. Then we're on the same argument. Okay, 723 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 3: And your Eagle fan brethren who said that that was ridiculous. 724 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 2: Can you know we're defensive right now about Jalen You 725 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 2: know it is, Yeah, I know, but. 726 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,320 Speaker 3: Like people have gone insane, you guys have gone insane. No, 727 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 3: we've gone into a polarizing thing to say that the 728 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 3: would trade Jalen Hurts for Josh Allen. That was defensive 729 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 3: to Eagles fans. 730 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 2: Most Eagles fans get upset about people still think justin Herbert, 731 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 2: they would take him over Jalen Hurts. And here's a 732 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 2: question for you, what's the point if you if your 733 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 2: if your goal is just to make to the playoffs 734 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 2: and then lose because your quarterback throws fore interceptions. They're 735 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 2: just dog shit like Herbert. That was a bad point. 736 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 3: That was a bad game. It's it's it's it's definitely 737 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 3: tough to make that argument that playoff game. But but 738 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 3: I am. I am genuinely curious you brought up Jalen Hurts. 739 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 3: I'm genuinely curious if you thought if you switched him 740 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 3: and you put Jalen Hurts on the Chargers, do you 741 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 3: think they're in that playoff game? 742 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, with that coaching staff and that defense. 743 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you think the Eagles do not win the 744 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 3: Super Bowl? 745 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 2: No, because he just he's not that guy. Like as 746 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 2: much as I love to think, yes, the Eagles were 747 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 2: an incredibly complete team. 748 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like that's what I don't understand, Like Eagles fan, 749 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 3: It's like I feel like when you say that, you're 750 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 3: actually like undercutting how good your team is. Like you 751 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 3: guys don't even realize it, Like you see it as 752 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 3: defense of your quarterback. And I actually take it as 753 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 3: an insult to Howie Roseman and Jordan Malatta and Landon 754 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,479 Speaker 3: Dickerson and Jalen Carter and Cooper deu Gene and Quinn 755 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 3: Mitchell and Saquon Barkley and DeVante Smith and eight J. Brown, 756 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 3: like on and on and on down the line. It's 757 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 3: it's not an insult to say that your quarterback is 758 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 3: a tough gamer who doesn't lose you guys games and 759 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 3: plays his best in the biggest games, but that fifteen 760 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 3: guys would win a Super Bowl on that team because 761 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,720 Speaker 3: that's how good your team is. That's not an insult 762 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 3: to Jalen Hurts. 763 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 2: It's not by I disagree with it, just because every 764 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 2: year the best team usually doesn't win in football, and 765 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 2: it's because it's tight the playoffs. I mean, we've all 766 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 2: played sports. We know it is like everyone gets tight 767 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 2: and it's really mental when you get to that point 768 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 2: because the level everyone's playing it so high. Listen, we 769 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 2: love Jared Golf on this show. That guy had a 770 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 2: great team in Detroit on paper, just as good as 771 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 2: this Eagles team. I mean, you could say, well, is 772 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 2: defense had a ton of injuries. Okay, this guy threw 773 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 2: three interceptions and a pick six against that Washington defense. 774 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 2: Defense lit up. 775 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 3: So what happened to Mahomes in the Super Bowl? Did 776 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 3: he just like mentally wilt? 777 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 4: He? 778 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,879 Speaker 2: He did in some ways like if you go back 779 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 2: and watch. 780 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 3: It, well, right, okay, fine, but but but it's not 781 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 3: because he's not mentally strong enough to win, right. 782 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 2: Uh No, no, no, like in his career, No, he's 783 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 2: always over his team wasn't good enough. Yeah, but that 784 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 2: was just like his ship. His ship was taking on 785 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 2: so much water. It didn't matter how much he was 786 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 2: thrown out. It was like he couldn't stop it. Right, 787 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,439 Speaker 2: that was just never ending, the amount of the leak. 788 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 2: But I just think that the hurts thing. Like we 789 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 2: talked about as an Eagles fan, I think that's why 790 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 2: we get so defensive. It's like people think it's just 791 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,879 Speaker 2: because of the team, and it's like, no, he makes 792 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 2: these big time throws in these big time moments that 793 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 2: I would say ninety of the quarterbacks playing the league 794 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 2: right now cannot make and have never made. So you know, 795 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 2: I have fun with it because it's never made. Okay, Yeah, 796 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 2: Like people want to push back on it, like like 797 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 2: the the fans I hear the most from just because 798 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 2: how big our show is, our Cowboys fans, and I 799 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 2: have fun with it because it is fun. Like I 800 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 2: love how passionate Cowboy fans are, and because they're just 801 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 2: like Eagles. We're fucking crazy about our teams, and I 802 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,919 Speaker 2: joke with them all the time. Dak go through his career, 803 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 2: he's had some incredibly talented teams down in Dallas. The 804 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 2: man has won two playoff games in his career. Why 805 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 2: because he's not mentally right for the playoffs. Like, it's 806 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 2: just that it's that big of a difference that something 807 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 2: small goes wrong for certain quarterbacks and they can't recover 808 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 2: from We're Jalen Hurts. In my lifetime as an Eagles fan, 809 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 2: it's crazy to say he's the best quarterback we've ever had, man, 810 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 2: And that's why I think Eagles fans are so defensive, 811 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 2: because we've just had shit our whole life. At the 812 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 2: quarterback Nick nick Foles. 813 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, but even you would joke like Nick Foles that, 814 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,240 Speaker 3: I mean, he's got to be just like the mentally 815 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,359 Speaker 3: toughest guy ever, right, because you want to see Super Bowl. 816 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,879 Speaker 2: I believe he is. He's one. He's one of two 817 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 2: quarterbacks in NFL history that beat Tom Brady in the 818 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. 819 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 3: Right, So okay, right, but so okay, But so that 820 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 3: But again, you're not taking any credit for the Eagles 821 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 3: organization in that spot, of course I am. 822 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:22,760 Speaker 2: I say how he's the greatest GM a million times over. Okay, 823 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 2: but that's why I like, like, you guys are talking 824 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 2: about your head coach, I've been dead wrong. I'm over too. 825 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 2: When Eagles head coaches have won Super Bowls. I did 826 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 2: not like the Doug Peterson higher, I did not like 827 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 2: Sirianni both won ring. So it's like, I do think 828 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 2: coaching is important, but like you're we're talking about here, 829 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 2: it's it's top down, right, It starts at the GM, 830 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 2: starts with the ownership of team building, the right quarterback 831 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 2: to write a coach. So that's just, you know, the 832 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 2: the push against the Eagles that you know they're the 833 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 2: best team that any They could put a trash can 834 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 2: back there and they would have won the Super Bowl. 835 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,360 Speaker 2: It's just I think as an Eagles fan, we just 836 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 2: think it's all insane because. 837 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,399 Speaker 3: It's just a straw man. 838 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 2: No one has you think you think Tua two would 839 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:00,879 Speaker 2: come to the fill off fian won a Super Bowl 840 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 2: with this past teams who said that, that's what people 841 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 2: are saying. That's what I mean. Who Nick right? He 842 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 2: did not say that, but he didn't he had jail 843 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 2: Hurts outside his top fifteen, and he had two in 844 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 2: his top fifteen. So that's that's what I mean. 845 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 3: It's like it's I don't know next Knicks gambling in 846 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 3: Vegas right now, but like. 847 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 2: I did not have to go check out him talking 848 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,840 Speaker 2: in August last year he was not a fan of 849 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts. 850 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 3: Okay, well, okay, First of all, God, Eagles fans are 851 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 3: so sensitive. I thought you guys were tough. I thought 852 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 3: Eagles fans. 853 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,240 Speaker 2: Were not sensitive. We just remember the haters like talking. 854 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 3: About just won the Super Bowl. 855 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 4: He he's since August, He's he's won you say since August, 856 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,760 Speaker 4: he's won fourteen. He's won eighteen football games, including Super 857 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 4: Bowl MVP. A lot has changed since August. 858 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 1: Although that's said, if that's said, I would look, I'm 859 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,760 Speaker 1: not a huge Jalen Hurts fan. I think he's amazing, 860 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 1: but like. 861 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,800 Speaker 2: He's him outside his top ten headed into the season. 862 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 2: Just so we're all the same. 863 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 1: What I right now, right now, have Jalen Hurts as 864 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: a guy, as a better I don't want to have 865 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: the ball. If I have bet against his team as 866 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 1: a top five would I rather have Jalen Hurts over 867 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:27,720 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. If I've bet against Matthew Stafford. 868 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 2: Like both you guys have you guys would have Jade 869 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 2: Daniels ever Hurts? Correct, Yes, Okay, Jayden Daniels is one 870 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 2: year younger than Hurts and he's playing in the NFL 871 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 2: for one year. Hurts has played for five years. Yeah, 872 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 2: And that's my issue is people think Jane Daniels is 873 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,359 Speaker 2: a better quarterback now than Hurts because of one good year, 874 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 2: rather than a guy who's played for five years, has 875 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 2: been the two Super Bowls. 876 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:53,320 Speaker 3: Spl Dude, it's a team sport, it is, But the 877 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,799 Speaker 3: quarterback position the worst position the mouse would you say? 878 00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,879 Speaker 2: You say, it's a team sport, but we all agree 879 00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 2: that quarterback is the most important position. 880 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course. Okay, so but okay, in basketball, you're 881 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 3: one of five on the court and you play for 882 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 3: forty of forty eight minutes. So one in basketball has 883 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 3: a huge impact. Obviously, one in football has a huge impact. 884 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 3: But it's not like that slice of the pie is smaller, 885 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,360 Speaker 3: even if it's the biggest slice of the pie. But 886 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 3: it's smaller because coaching matters more, because it's eleven on eleven, 887 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 3: because you're on the field for you don't play offense 888 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 3: and defense, right, Like a quarterback is the most is 889 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 3: the biggest slice of the football impact pie. But it 890 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 3: is smaller than Joker to the Nuggets, right to Jannis 891 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 3: to the Bucks, to Lebron to the Lakers. Right. We 892 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 3: all understand that. So having the best offensive line, the 893 00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 3: best I mean, number one in some defensive categories last year. 894 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 3: But we'll say a top five defense, is that fair 895 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,359 Speaker 3: for the Eagles last year? The top five defense? Yeah, 896 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 3: top five defense, best offensive line, best running back, top 897 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 3: three wide receiver duo, top five wide receiver duo, like 898 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 3: top five weapons, top one offensive line, top five defense. 899 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 3: That's not what Jaden Daniels had. 900 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 2: Okay, if you want to go that way, then what 901 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,359 Speaker 2: about Lamar? Last year? Lamar had the number one team 902 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,879 Speaker 2: in my model, and everyone's a model, it's a professional better. 903 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 2: He lost at home to the Chiefs. Couldn't score more 904 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 2: than seventeen points at home. I mean, that's that's my thing. 905 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 2: You're like, we all. 906 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 3: Agree, were just talking about we were just talking about 907 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,320 Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels v. Jalen Hurts. Yeah, because you want to 908 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 3: talk about Lamar, we can talk about Lamar because you 909 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 3: just talked about how much of a team sport it was. 910 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 2: And my whole pushback to you was, Lamar had a 911 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 2: better team on paper in that Eagles team last year. Brother, 912 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 2: like anyone you talked to as a model, that team 913 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 2: from two years ago, that home Ravens team that lost 914 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,879 Speaker 2: to the Chiefs who were a four seed, that were bad, 915 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,239 Speaker 2: That was not a good team that won that Super 916 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 2: Bowl against that FORIYDN and Iris team, right, Lamar laid 917 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 2: an egg And you could say, well, okay, we'll put 918 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 2: that on Lamar. But Lamar had a better team than 919 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 2: Eagles and he laid an egg at home against that 920 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 2: Chiefs team. 921 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,439 Speaker 3: You're saying, saying the Ravens team of two years ago 922 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 3: was better than the Eagles team of last year? 923 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,280 Speaker 2: Is your plot if you if you as a professional 924 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 2: better than models it out? Yeah, they're high. 925 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 3: Okay, I just want to I just want to be 926 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 3: sure I'm understanding. You're talking about two years ago Ravens 927 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 3: team and last year's Eagles team and then doing two 928 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,880 Speaker 3: years ago Lamar Jackson against last year Jalen hurts no, 929 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 3: because it's it's that's not exactly apples to apples and 930 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 3: so like, and again. 931 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,840 Speaker 2: Using one that just said the best team right, Okay, the. 932 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 3: Best team doesn't always win, but one data point of 933 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:52,400 Speaker 3: single elimination, like that's why, that's why extrapolating out and 934 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 3: being like he wilted in this playoff game, it still 935 00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,399 Speaker 3: is just one game again, difference with basketball the most 936 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 3: important game, yes, the most important game. 937 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's why I think people in media, I 938 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:06,879 Speaker 2: feel like you guys are missing the point here where 939 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 2: it's like Lamar and no one's doubting Lamar is a 940 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 2: better quarterback than Jalen Hurts. Right, me and Chat will 941 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 2: do our top ten, we'll have Lamar above him. But 942 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,399 Speaker 2: my whole issue is like Hurts doesn't give the credit 943 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,719 Speaker 2: for what he does. Is in the playoffs, he makes 944 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 2: it all work. He doesn't will He isn't like. 945 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 3: I just got I got like honestly, like so is 946 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 3: saying Jalen Hurts is the seventh best quarterback in football 947 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,720 Speaker 3: after being the Super Bowl? Is that like disrespectful? 948 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,799 Speaker 2: It depends you have above him. Like if you had 949 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 2: Stafford above him, I have no issue with that. If 950 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 2: you have Justin Herbert above him, I have an issue 951 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:39,239 Speaker 2: with that. 952 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 3: Mahomes Allen Lamar Burrow Stafford. Uh, Like, yeah, I would. 953 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,720 Speaker 3: I would say that Jade and Daniels is better. Again 954 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 3: isolating performances, I mean, because like we've have one. We 955 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 3: have one year and he won what three playoff game 956 00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 3: or two two playoff games? Sure in one year with 957 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 3: a with a worst team. But like so, like he 958 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,880 Speaker 3: he was mentally tough enough to not wilt in the 959 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 3: first two games, but then he was mentally weak in 960 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 3: the NFC Championship game. Like I just don't do my 961 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 3: analysis off of like one game like that, Like Jalen 962 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 3: Hurts is a gamer. 963 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 2: But you that's my issue is you are doing it 964 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 2: off one game. 965 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 3: He was the Super Bowl MVP. That changes things. 966 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:22,719 Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying is you're giving him his 967 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 2: flowers now because of one game that you're missing the 968 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:25,959 Speaker 2: whole point. 969 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,320 Speaker 3: He was No, No, he was also awesome in the 970 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 3: first Super Bowl. Yes, the first thing I said about 971 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,840 Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts was he's a gamer. He plays the he 972 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 3: plays his best in the biggest games. That was the 973 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 3: first thing I said about him. But I don't you 974 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 3: but you just said you still would say Lamar is 975 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 3: better than him, who doesn't play his best in the 976 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 3: biggest games. 977 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:49,239 Speaker 2: Right, because Richard's because because of the sail. What I said, Yeah, 978 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 2: for regular season, we're saying, when you are a top two, 979 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:56,920 Speaker 2: who is the better quarterback? Yeah, this position, Lamar ja 980 00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 2: the quarterback. Of course he's a two time MV, but 981 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:01,440 Speaker 2: he wilts. 982 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,440 Speaker 3: In the biggest games, the most important games. 983 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,799 Speaker 2: So that's the tough part, is like, I wouldn't. I'd 984 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 2: rather have hurts than I will Lamar. 985 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 3: No, you wouldn't. 986 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:09,280 Speaker 2: I would. 987 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 3: No, that's no way, No, you wouldn't. 988 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,719 Speaker 2: You guys don't know about winning. You're talking to a 989 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 2: winner here. 990 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 3: You wouldn't. 991 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,719 Speaker 2: I would because I've seen the moments man. Like again, 992 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,160 Speaker 2: I've made a ton of money fading Lamar in the 993 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 2: playoffs and every year I got to hear from Ravens 994 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,040 Speaker 2: fans saying you're gonna get caught. We're different this year, 995 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,840 Speaker 2: the team is different. Oh we got Derrick Henry. It's different. 996 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 2: It's never different. It's always been the same, and that 997 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 2: someday he'll break through, right, Peyton Mann eventually broke through. 998 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 2: He got over that hump that is Tom Brady, Like 999 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:42,800 Speaker 2: I'm sure josh Alla will go over the hump that 1000 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,320 Speaker 2: is Patrick Mahomes. It's just as an Eagus fans, I 1001 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 2: think that's what we're so annoyed about is just the 1002 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 2: Hurts disrespect was just so insane coming into the season 1003 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,839 Speaker 2: because he had one down year where all these other 1004 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,880 Speaker 2: guys can have just a bunch of nothing years like okay, 1005 00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 2: good regular season, playoffs time come and they fall there. 1006 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 2: So that was just my biggest issue, Danny. 1007 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,360 Speaker 3: I think, yes, sorry, it's very sensitive. 1008 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 1: Here's what I'm hoping for, But I love it. 1009 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 2: That's why I love the jail. It hurts the big 1010 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 2: because it's it's funny because I can see it from 1011 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 2: both sides. 1012 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,879 Speaker 1: Here's what I would like, Danny, for you and I. Yeah, 1013 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 1: I would like for you and I to have the 1014 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 1: opportunity to be a sensitive and defensive about Caleb Williams 1015 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 1: after he's won two Super Bowls, as Eagles fans can 1016 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,239 Speaker 1: be about Jalen Hurts and. 1017 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 3: This way, how what what rules do you think the 1018 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,879 Speaker 3: NFL is going to have to change to counterbalance Caleb 1019 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,840 Speaker 3: Williams's greatness, like like banning the tush push. 1020 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 1: That's right, but I can't even imagine right now because 1021 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,719 Speaker 1: I can't even wrap my head around the idea of 1022 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,400 Speaker 1: the Bears being good enough to need rules changes. 1023 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 3: I ben surely you're only going to be allowed to 1024 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 3: throw from inside the hash marks. 1025 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,879 Speaker 1: After this year you can throw from inside the hash 1026 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,319 Speaker 1: marks and with your opposite hand. 1027 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. 1028 00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,280 Speaker 1: And also your helmet has to be on backwards. 1029 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:05,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, in Chicago, you can do that at home. Yeah, 1030 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 3: I think that's I think. I think that's what's coming. 1031 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 3: I think that's what's coming. But Sam, to answer your 1032 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,399 Speaker 3: point your question, like, yeah, I think about what I'm 1033 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,680 Speaker 3: going to say on TV before I say it. That's how. 1034 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 2: That's how that you know it's gonna be hot. You 1035 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:19,920 Speaker 2: know it's gonna be a hot topic. Though, like you 1036 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,839 Speaker 2: know it's a hot take, no man, Like like I think, 1037 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,279 Speaker 2: I but like, I think what you just said is 1038 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,320 Speaker 2: a hot take. You said that you would rather have 1039 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,480 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts than Lamar Jackson. That's a hot take. Welcome 1040 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 2: to television, Thank you, you know what I mean? 1041 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,799 Speaker 3: Like like you, people say hot take is a pejorative, 1042 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:37,959 Speaker 3: but you really believe it, right. 1043 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 2: I really believe in the sense that I have the 1044 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 2: data to back it up for sure. 1045 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 3: Well, you see me going on TV without data and 1046 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,840 Speaker 3: facts behind me, not you. 1047 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,239 Speaker 2: But okay, we know, uh, we know that a lot 1048 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 2: of people do not definitely not you, But I'm. 1049 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,800 Speaker 3: Just knowing iven just curious like like but like, I 1050 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,400 Speaker 3: just I think that, By the way, there's plenty of 1051 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 3: data that can show that Lamar Jackson is better than 1052 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,719 Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts. You can make any case that you want. 1053 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,400 Speaker 2: Again, if you want to dominate the regular season, dominate it. 1054 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 3: Okay, fine, but that again, that's the art. Again. I 1055 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 3: can show you plenty of data that says Lamar is 1056 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,840 Speaker 3: better than Jalen Hurts, and you can show me playoff 1057 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 3: data that says that Jailen is better than Lamar, And 1058 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 3: then I would come at you and argue sample size, 1059 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,359 Speaker 3: and then you would come at me and argue your 1060 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 3: model for overall team support, and like, that's the beauty 1061 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,680 Speaker 3: of sports man Like it's a you can have that. 1062 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 1: That's the beauty of doing it on television. You can 1063 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,799 Speaker 1: have that argument and that debate NonStop for just about 1064 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,800 Speaker 1: every team in every single sport like we've just been having. Like, 1065 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 1: there are data points that can be used to support 1066 00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 1: your argument no matter what your argument is. The fun 1067 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,600 Speaker 1: part is when you truly go all in and believe it, 1068 00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 1: have to defend it, and then have to live with 1069 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 1: it over the course of an entire season, no doubt. 1070 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,680 Speaker 3: Like and I love planning my flag and taking a 1071 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 3: position and it's it's what makes it fun. And and 1072 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,319 Speaker 3: by the way, I have no problems saying I was wrong. 1073 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 3: I obviously was wrong about the Eagles, you know what 1074 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,880 Speaker 3: I mean, Like I obviously was wrong, and then I 1075 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,920 Speaker 3: just say I was wrong, like it's not it doesn't 1076 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:27,240 Speaker 3: It doesn't bother me at all, like the losing bets 1077 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,839 Speaker 3: bothers me, you know what I mean, Like like being 1078 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,600 Speaker 3: wrong about an opinion, it doesn't mean I don't believe it. 1079 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,840 Speaker 3: It doesn't mean it's fake. And by the way, I 1080 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,719 Speaker 3: have a researcher dedicated to propping up my takes with 1081 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,400 Speaker 3: data and with facts and with information like it's it's 1082 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 3: an amazing amount of resources that we have at our disposal. 1083 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, some people just don't have an ability to 1084 00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 3: admit that they're wrong. And I think that that's like 1085 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,880 Speaker 3: just a bad character trait. And by the way, I 1086 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 3: genuinely feel like being a gambler helps you admit you're wrong. 1087 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,080 Speaker 1: Because I was going to ask you that before to 1088 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 1: get out of here, which is wrong, which is harder 1089 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:09,800 Speaker 1: being wrong for betting and having to defend it versus 1090 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,960 Speaker 1: being wrong for an opinion and knowing that you got 1091 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,839 Speaker 1: to come back with another opinion the next day. 1092 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm often bet I'm often betting based on my opinion, 1093 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 3: and so that you are very interconnected. But again I 1094 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 3: don't really look at either as like being hard like 1095 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,239 Speaker 3: it it's just the job. Like I simon, what were 1096 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,840 Speaker 3: you on picking NFL this year? Like personal or on 1097 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:50,239 Speaker 3: the show, whichever you'd care to share, I'd have. 1098 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 2: To go back and look, but like personally, probably right 1099 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:57,200 Speaker 2: around like it wasn't it wasn't a good year, wasn't 1100 00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 2: a bad year. But luckily, like Chad knows, I get 1101 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,359 Speaker 2: about the Chiefs and Ego super Bowl matchup. So it's 1102 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,440 Speaker 2: like I made six figures on super Bowl Future. So 1103 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,320 Speaker 2: it's like my life. I can't complain. I can't complain 1104 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:08,680 Speaker 2: to the other. 1105 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:13,200 Speaker 3: Great, you crushed it, Yeah that's awesome, But fifty to fifty, 1106 00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,800 Speaker 3: I'm like picks, it's tough. How many shows did you miss? 1107 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 2: Zero? 1108 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 3: Right? So one has no bearing with the other, like 1109 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 3: it's part of it. You talk about the wins, you 1110 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,080 Speaker 3: talk about the losses, you talk about the correct predictions, 1111 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:28,760 Speaker 3: you talk about the wrong predictions, and you still do 1112 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 3: content and you still show up because you're a professional, 1113 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:32,920 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like so like and by 1114 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,960 Speaker 3: the way, that's sick that you made six figures on that. 1115 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 3: That's awesome. It is funny, you know what I mean. 1116 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,480 Speaker 3: It's it's fun. It's no text me that on the side. 1117 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:40,040 Speaker 3: Next time. 1118 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 2: I got you, Chad, listen, thank god it because I 1119 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:44,960 Speaker 2: was almost gonna lose my shit on Chad. But thank 1120 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 2: god Chad made the bet too. 1121 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,080 Speaker 3: Yeah that's excellent. But yeah, it's the type of thing 1122 00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 3: where it's like I just I don't I'm not betting 1123 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,800 Speaker 3: more than I can afford to lose, so the losses 1124 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,320 Speaker 3: don't like really hurt you in that sense. And then 1125 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,680 Speaker 3: the day, the thing that pays the mortgage is the 1126 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,520 Speaker 3: takes and the TV show, And so just show up, 1127 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,720 Speaker 3: win or lose, right or wrong, you know, like, just 1128 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,360 Speaker 3: be a be a professional about it. So like, neither 1129 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,200 Speaker 3: one really bothers me to be honest. 1130 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:18,160 Speaker 1: With you, Davey Parkins breakfast Ball, We're glad you showed 1131 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:19,080 Speaker 1: up for us. 1132 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 3: I'll be it a little late. 1133 00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:23,000 Speaker 2: Right on top. 1134 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 1: Dude, you showed up. 1135 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 3: I apologize, and I have no idea if this is 1136 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:28,600 Speaker 3: what you guys wanted to talk about, if you if 1137 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,920 Speaker 3: you guys wanted to do like NL Central futures. But 1138 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,560 Speaker 3: I hope, I hope this is what you and your 1139 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 3: audience wanted. 1140 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,160 Speaker 1: And uh, I really wanted to go deep on the 1141 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,520 Speaker 1: new bats and see how you felt about those. But 1142 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,480 Speaker 1: we'll do it, you know what, We'll do it next time. 1143 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,320 Speaker 3: What amazing branding. Yeah, it's just that the word torpedo 1144 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 3: is fun to say. 1145 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,720 Speaker 1: It's great. It's phenomenal branding. And there was actually a 1146 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 1: great story in the Wall Street Journal today about the 1147 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 1: physicist who created the bats and he gave up his 1148 00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:01,840 Speaker 1: career in physics to go into coach and created these 1149 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,440 Speaker 1: bats and it is it's brilliant. Kudos to the Wall 1150 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:06,000 Speaker 1: Street Journal. 1151 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, but if they were, If they were, if the 1152 00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 3: guy's last name was was Mitchell and it was just 1153 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 3: like the Mitchell bat, no one would talk about that 1154 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:17,640 Speaker 3: is good. But it's the torpedo bat. 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