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Speaker 1: With technology with text stuff from Hey there and welcome

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Speaker 1: to text stuff. I'm Jonathan Strickland and joining me today

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Speaker 1: in the hot seat, I as actar from c NE NET,

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Speaker 1: I as my good friend, how are you? I'm good

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Speaker 1: to see that I'm in is not too hot yet.

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Speaker 1: Maybe by the end it might be because it might

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Speaker 1: be panicking. Yeah, we're um, We're going to do the

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Speaker 1: episode I look forward to all year long, which is

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Speaker 1: the episode where I stick my neck out and usually

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Speaker 1: have a guest also sticking his or her neck out

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Speaker 1: to make predictions about what will happen in the following

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Speaker 1: twelve months. And we're recording this episode on December two

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Speaker 1: thousand fifteen, although it's airing in January two thousand and sixteen.

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Speaker 1: So I just want to throw the regular caveat out there.

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Speaker 1: Some of the stuff we predict might already be the

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Speaker 1: path by the time you hear it. Yeah, if some

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Speaker 1: of these things come true, we can just say we

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Speaker 1: knew it. We knew this was going to happen, and

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Speaker 1: we didn't have any insider information whatsoever. These are guesses. Yeah, yeah, Now,

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Speaker 1: these are all wild stabs in the dark. And I

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Speaker 1: also told I as this before we started recording, I

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Speaker 1: decided that I'm going to make bigger predictions than I

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Speaker 1: have in the past, because, for one, uh, playing it

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Speaker 1: safe hasn't helped me. I I do not have a

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Speaker 1: great record. If you're gonna go go big, that's right,

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Speaker 1: we go bigger, go home, right? And I can't go home.

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Speaker 1: They won't let me, so I have to go big.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk about some predictions and then maybe,

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Speaker 1: you know, question those predictions, justify them, maybe even change

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Speaker 1: our minds based upon the conversation we have. And I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go first. And my first prediction is probably if

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Speaker 1: it's in, might not be the craziest one I have.

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Speaker 1: It might be the second craziest one I have. But

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Speaker 1: my prediction is that in Microsoft will buy Yahoo's core business. Now,

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Speaker 1: for people who have been paying attention to the news,

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Speaker 1: you've heard the rumors that the board of directors have

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Speaker 1: been thinking of selling off yah Who's core business, which

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Speaker 1: hasn't really been profitable and quite some time, and holding

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Speaker 1: on to its stake in ali Baba instead of being

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Speaker 1: this kind of content slash search engine thing that Yahoo

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Speaker 1: has blossomed into or exploded into. However, you want to

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Speaker 1: think about it. So they're talking about the possibility of

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Speaker 1: selling off that core business. But who would be in

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Speaker 1: the market for that. It can't be Google, or at

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Speaker 1: least I don't think it could be because Google already

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Speaker 1: has such a dominant hold in search. I don't think

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Speaker 1: anyone would allow that to happen. It would become a

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Speaker 1: more more of a monopoly than it already is. So

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Speaker 1: could it possible possibly be Microsoft? I mean, Microsoft and

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Speaker 1: Yahoo have teamed up in the past. Being was the

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Speaker 1: search engine powering Yah who searched for a while. It's

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Speaker 1: not like they had the best relationship ever, but I

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Speaker 1: could see that being a possibility Now, I asked, what

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Speaker 1: about you? Do you think I'm completely off base here?

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Speaker 1: Do you think there's some other entity that's way more likely? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Or is it just that Microsoft would never even touch

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Speaker 1: Yahoo with a tin foot poll? You know? I think

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Speaker 1: I think Microsoft might be the wrong suitor for this

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Speaker 1: because they do have Bing and Bing this year actually

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Speaker 1: been for years. It actually did something good and being

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Speaker 1: is so we're baked into Windows ten that I don't

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Speaker 1: think they need to muck with that too much. Also, yeah,

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Speaker 1: who's got a lot of email kind of situations. They've

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Speaker 1: got Tumbler, they've got Flicker, and Microsoft has a lot

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Speaker 1: of those things already. So to buy those core assets,

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Speaker 1: I think it would be duplicative. I'm thinking who might

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Speaker 1: Google right now stale, even though it's a lot better

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Speaker 1: why not tack it on. That's those are great points.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you make a very strong case for for

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Speaker 1: other very realistic entities that could come into play here,

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Speaker 1: and purchase up those those that core business if in fact, yeah,

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Speaker 1: At least the ball could be rolling by the time

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Speaker 1: this episode goes live. Uh. Those those are excellent points.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick by my Microsoft prediction because that way,

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Speaker 1: when it becomes true and I review this episode. Uh

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Speaker 1: and at the end of twenty sixteen, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: sound like a genius. Well, the other thing is, yeah,

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Speaker 1: who's board mentioned that this whole potential plan with a

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Speaker 1: spin off, yah, whose core business? It could take up

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Speaker 1: to a year to make that happen, So maybe even

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Speaker 1: more so if it does happen, let's say January, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna give you that one. Okay, that's fair. Yeah, that's nice.

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Speaker 1: That's very very a generous of you to allow me

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Speaker 1: an extra month, particular least it's we're recording this one

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Speaker 1: a month early exactly. Maybe we should be doing this

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Speaker 1: in like a fiscal years and might maybe even tell

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Speaker 1: April who knows, because there's no rules unless we make

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Speaker 1: the rules right now, that's true. Uh, Well, I will

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Speaker 1: say this that that if an entity purchases Yahoo's core

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Speaker 1: businesses before the end of that entity will most definitely

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Speaker 1: be Microsoft that way. That way, I've planted my flag.

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Speaker 1: And if it's not, and it's one of the other

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Speaker 1: entities that I has mentioned, that's gonna be great content

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Speaker 1: for my wrap up show at the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: All right, so what is your first prediction? Okay, unlike you,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start off small but a little crazy. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go three D printers are gonna become way more

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Speaker 1: mainstream next year. And this is tied into this big

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Speaker 1: push that I've seen in camera technology. Intel has this

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Speaker 1: real sense camera and what it allows people to do

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Speaker 1: is or allows computers to do, is to sense things

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Speaker 1: in three D space, and like, well, people are like,

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Speaker 1: being able to see three D space with I don't know,

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Speaker 1: So you can literally hold up an object and it's

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Speaker 1: almost acting like a three D scanner, and so why

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Speaker 1: D printing? That's what I'm saying. And a company like Amazon,

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Speaker 1: so this is all very very three D printing. Amazon

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Speaker 1: D printers aren't super fast. Do you think three D

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Speaker 1: let me let me justify that instead of just saying

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Speaker 1: no and then moving on my next prediction. No. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The reason why I say no, it's it's not because

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Speaker 1: I don't see the potential there. I absolutely do see

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Speaker 1: the potential. I've also had experience with three D printers,

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Speaker 1: like we have one in the office. I have worked

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Speaker 1: You have to have the extruder at the right temperature

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of different things that it's it's

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Speaker 1: So my prediction would be my counter proposal to your

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Speaker 1: prediction would be, We'll see a lot more three D

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Speaker 1: and the prices are gonna come down because the actual

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Speaker 1: UH group. It might not even be like a big company.

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Speaker 1: are who go to a local technology school for example.

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Speaker 1: back to my weasel language. It will become more mainstream.

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Speaker 1: You're you're totally right by the way. Three D printers

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Speaker 1: play like an ink jet, which has you pulling out

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Speaker 1: your hair for different reasons. But when it comes to

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Speaker 1: believe Staples has some services where you can do this.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure those will be the faster, more ornate, or

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Speaker 1: still think the next year we're gonna have not the

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Speaker 1: dot matrix style printers where we're like, this is kind

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Speaker 1: of chanky, it doesn't really work, but it's the beginning days.

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Speaker 1: We already had the beginning days of these three D

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Speaker 1: more consumer friendly versions. Now they might be for prosumers,

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Speaker 1: think the idea of people could have Wait a second,

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Speaker 1: I can print a case from my phone, or I

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Speaker 1: a demand. But as it's more mainstream, not like it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be like the laser printer you have, So you

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Speaker 1: could you could argue the market will double, but the

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Speaker 1: markets like five thousand units units, that's not the big

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Speaker 1: a deal. If these statistics continue, disco will be the best.

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Speaker 1: It will be the only music of past I know.

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Speaker 1: But Anyway, we're on another We're on another show where

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Speaker 1: we constantly are striving to be the best podcast of

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Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen. So we're all about living in the past.

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Speaker 1: We'll get there. Yeah, yep, one of these days. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: basically can assume it and they become new Apple instead

431
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: of it being Beats by Dre and Tim Cook. You know.

432
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: So the thing about buying Tesla, to me, what what

433
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: I find problematic with this idea is Tesla already has

434
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: the name. So with Apple's purchase, if they bought this company,

435
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 1: the rebranding aspect would be so difficult that they wouldn't

436
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: do it. Maybe that's the Unapple like move you're talking about,

437
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 1: where they're like, you know what, we just we owned Tesla,

438
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,199
Speaker 1: and that's that's just the way it is now. We're

439
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: just gonna we're gonna continue to call it Tesla and

440
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 1: not call it the I Car the Tesla. It's a

441
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: Tesla and Apple company. I just can't see that kind

442
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: of styling when it comes to Apple, because they're very

443
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 1: They're the top dog. They're not gonna be like the

444
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 1: secondary little logo somewhere else. Although what I the second

445
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: or third thought I had with this thing was, you know,

446
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 1: I could see Apple, either either Tim Cook or any

447
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: of the board members of Apple becoming a board member

448
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 1: of Tesla and having some kind of influence on how

449
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: they do things and or a significant investment in the company,

450
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: whereas they don't buy the company, but they do have

451
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: a stake in it, so that way there is a

452
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: future with them, a kind of partnership that Disney and

453
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: Apple kind of had with Steve Jobs being at the

454
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: time a shareholder, a major shareholder of each company. Or

455
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: you had this idea where you had Eric Schmidt, who

456
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: used to be on the board of Apple. There was

457
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 1: a lot of friendly information being passed along to the

458
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: to the point where Schmidt ended up recusing himself and

459
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: leaving the board because of concerns about a conflict of

460
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: interest exactly, And I think that would be Maybe that's

461
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: the kind of way Apple gets really into the car business,

462
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 1: is not necessarily by being in the car business, but

463
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: influencing a major company that is the most Apple like

464
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: of car manufacturers. Interesting that that that sounds more realistic.

465
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with line. Apple is gonna try and

466
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: buy Tesla. I don't. I didn't say they will buy Tesla.

467
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,239
Speaker 1: And so they're gonna try to buy Tesla? You mean

468
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: you mean the motor company, right, not just buy a

469
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: Tesla exactly? Like all right, who's whose turn is it

470
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: to drive the Tesla this week? I get employee of

471
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 1: the month gets to drive the Tesla. Uh? No, I

472
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: mean that they buy the company Tesla uh or try

473
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: to Yeah, because I think that that's a pretty crazy

474
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: prediction myself. But in in another sense, it makes perfect,

475
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: It makes it makes it's logical because why would you

476
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: try and go into would you just hope for your

477
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: your company's uh the perception of your company to to

478
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: push you to a successful competition with an already established

479
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: some might are you equally iconic company? Um? I don't know.

480
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: But I do know that Apple's getting close to being

481
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: a one trillion dollar company and they got some cash

482
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: to burn, So so why not go into a business

483
00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: that's dominated by a few companies. Well, especially as we

484
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: get more and more towards people leaning to electric and

485
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: alternative fuel vehicles. I mean it, it's it's gonna be.

486
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: That's a market that's just gonna grow. You know, there

487
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 1: is there is some information to support this. Tesla did

488
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 1: introduce its own iPhone cases made of leather that is

489
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: that is normally used for the car seats, and Tesla's

490
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: right there, that's where this this always. I've gotta say,

491
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: I was really shocked when Apple didn't move to acquire

492
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: ed Hardy, which also made Apple cases. You never know

493
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: that rumor that did happen. Pretty sure that will happen

494
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: in Alright, your your turn, I as okay, my turn

495
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: maybe equally crazy. Okay, Google is gonna go wireless for

496
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: real this time right now. They do have Project five,

497
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 1: which is this kind of envy and Oh where they

498
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: are using some T Mobile and Sprint networks combined with

499
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: these devices and WiFi. So it's it's kind of like

500
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: soft entry into the wireless world. They already have Google Fiber.

501
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: I'm saying next year is the year Google either builds

502
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: its own wireless infrastructure or just purchases a wireless carrier

503
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: flat out so they have the infrastructure, none of this

504
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 1: leasing nonsense, actually owning a wireless network that is fast

505
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: enough to do what they want to do, because they

506
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: want to cover basically everywhere and Internet so that you

507
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 1: could use their services and they can learn information about you.

508
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: That's that's one side. But I think we're going to

509
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: see Google actually becoming a wireless carrier. What do you think.

510
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: I think it's a distinct possibility. I mean, you already

511
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: mentioned Project five, which uh I was invited to be

512
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: an early tester of that, and I ultimately decided not to,

513
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: the only reason being that it would have required me

514
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: to use my Google Voice number, and almost everyone knows

515
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,239
Speaker 1: my actual phone number, and very few people outside of

516
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: my mom ever call me on my Google Voice number,

517
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: and just training the humans in my life to call

518
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: a different number was going to be a problem. Um,

519
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: But I agree that the that's a distinct possibility. I

520
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: wonder if it's the right move. I also wonder what

521
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: that would do in the overall wireless marketplace, particularly the

522
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: cellular marketplace, because I can imagine other carriers saying, well,

523
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna put a real restriction on which

524
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: Android phones we offer on our systems now, But that

525
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: seems like that would almost be shooting themselves in the foot.

526
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: I mean, where else are you gonna go besides Apple

527
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: to get really compelling handsets? Um this, I think this

528
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: could be an incredibly disruptive move, and it's certainly makes

529
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: sense from the standpoint of where Google's moving right now,

530
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: especially now that they've got you know, their Alphabet company,

531
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: so Google can can make these kind of potentially risky

532
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: moves without affecting other branches of its business. I guess

533
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: technically I should have said Alphabet is going to do this,

534
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: Because I don't know Google. I guess Google fibers. Google

535
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: Fiber is still part of Google. I don't I don't

536
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: have the exact I don't have the Org charts out

537
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: the breakdown. I know Google X is outside of Google now.

538
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: It's research and development is a separate arm, and a

539
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: couple of the companies that acquired are in separate arms

540
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: as well. Uh, they might just create a new subsidiary

541
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: for this sort of thing. I think it could work.

542
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: I think the thing with Google, they they are very

543
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: aggressive with the rollout of fiber, but there's areas that

544
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: is hard. They're very difficult to get into. And with

545
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: wireless there is this barrier decreases. So this idea of

546
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: like Google will will be giving WiFi or they'll be

547
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: giving some kind of cellular connection is physically easier, so

548
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: they don't have to worry about, Okay, we're gonna get permits.

549
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: Do we have to shut this part down to make

550
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: this happen, especially if they buy a pre existing carrier,

551
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: like either a T mobile or Sprints just sitting around,

552
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: you know, Sprints just sitting in the corner, just wondering

553
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: is one day somebody gonna make something of them. They're

554
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: just just waiting to be asked to the dance. Well

555
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: they're at the dance. They're just in the corner by

556
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: the punch bowl. Well, they'll be waiting to be asked

557
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: to dance at the dance. How about T mobiles out

558
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: on the floor like basically throwing down T mobile slam dance.

559
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: I guess what T mobile is doing. It's got it's

560
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: it's it's like a one man mosh pit and you're like, why,

561
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: it's like John, just it's it's a polka. You don't

562
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: have to go thrashing. Okay, so there's a chance of that.

563
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: What's what's your next one? So the next one? This

564
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: one is one where I as and I both have

565
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: predictions about the same general type of technology, but we

566
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: have slightly different takes on it. And this is all

567
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: about virtual reality and to a lesser extent, augmented reality.

568
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: My prediction, and I actually really hope I'm wrong about this.

569
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: This is one of those where I'm like, I'm making

570
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: the prediction, but I would love to be wrong. But

571
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: my prediction is that VR is ultimately going to fizzle

572
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: out in twenty six team in the consumer market. And

573
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: the reason I say that is that I think it

574
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: may have taken too long for the consumer models of

575
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: really compelling VR headsets to actually make it to the shelves.

576
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: We don't even have them yet, like the not the

577
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: really big names, not We don't have an oculus, like

578
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: a branded oculus system beyond something that turns your phone

579
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: into a VR headset. We don't have the Morpheus, you know,

580
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: we don't have these things apart from some early builds,

581
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: developer builds where you can you can get something, but

582
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: you already know it's it's essentially a prototype. It's not

583
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: the final form of whatever the consumer model will be.

584
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: And my fear is that by the time it comes out,

585
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: all the excitement that they built up from the crowd

586
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: funding and the marketing that happened over the last three

587
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,959
Speaker 1: years will have completely died out, so that VR becomes

588
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: a non starter. Either stuff never makes it to market

589
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: because analysts decide, hey, we're gonna lose money on this,

590
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense for us to do it,

591
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: or it will make it to market, but it will

592
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: have very low adoption due to the high cost of entry.

593
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: We expect most of these devices are gonna cost in

594
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: the hundreds of dollars, so some of them may be

595
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: just as expensive as the hardware they are paired with

596
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: in the case of consoles, for example. UM I think

597
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: augmented reality has a better chance because as a wider

598
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: application than virtual reality does. And honestly, I think there's

599
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: more excitement about augmented reality UH and the potential for

600
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: it than there is for virtual reality. Although it should

601
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: be said augmented reality could follow the same path as

602
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: VR and ultimately fizzle out too. So that's my prediction

603
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: that VR is not gonna make it in TwixT. Even

604
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: if the device has actually come out, there's not gonna

605
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: be widespread adoption. There won't be enough support from developers

606
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: to create content for them, and it'll be just like

607
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: we saw on the nineties where there was a lot

608
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: of hype but not a lot of payoff. Okay, so

609
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: I maybe agree with maybe about SI what you said there.

610
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: I don't think next year is the year for VR.

611
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: I think it needs a year or two before it's

612
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 1: really really ready. And the thing why I think it

613
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: won't die next year than anytime soon is because there's

614
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: Facebook behind Oculus, so there's a lot of money there,

615
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,959
Speaker 1: and they have a partnership with Samsung, and we both

616
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: know the Samsung No. They love to throw stuff against

617
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: the wall until it sticks, and I don't think they're

618
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: going to stop. I don't think any of those companies

619
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: are gonna stop until there's an actual working device out there.

620
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: Because in the interim, Samsung has their Gear VR that

621
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: allows you to take your select Samsung phones. So I'm

622
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: not gonna add you put it in in this like

623
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: helmet so you can see these VR experiences, and I've

624
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: gotten to try those out a couple of times, and

625
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: they're very good. Stuff like Google Cardboard, which makes it

626
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: way cheaper and allows you to use pretty much any

627
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: Android phone or pretty much any phone, so you can

628
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: see these VR experiences. And I think right now, the experiences,

629
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 1: it's what's holding it back because you're like, oh, wow,

630
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: I'm in this virtual theater watching a movie that's not

631
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: really interesting. I can do that in my living room,

632
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: so why am I bothering with this. It's to have

633
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 1: the compelling content for that. So I just don't see

634
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: a ton of products coming to market next year, even

635
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: though they're supposed to. I just don't see it being gigantic.

636
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: But I think it's not going to die off, and

637
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 1: because of the rapid technology cycle when it comes to phones,

638
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: I think it's really this combination of VR helmets as

639
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 1: an accessory to your phone that's really where this is.

640
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: This idea that it will work with video games, Yeah,

641
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: that's that's gonna be a nice little uh niche for

642
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: a while, but I think the mainstream adoption won't be

643
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: for another like two years, where people can just swap

644
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: a phone in with really high red screens, because this

645
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: is actually when it becomes important when that phone is

646
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: right against your eyes and you're seeing this this of

647
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: the image. If it's low res, you're seeing like a

648
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: screen door effect, and it takes you out of it.

649
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: And if you want to be in VR, you really

650
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: have to be immersed, and that actually takes it out.

651
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: And maybe one to two years you'll have even the

652
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 1: low end phones with really high rise screens such that

653
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: you won't have that problem. Yeah, to me, it's not

654
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: so much the resolution of the screens that's the big issue.

655
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: It's making sure that there's no latency between your movements

656
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: and what you see on those screens. Because I I've

657
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: I've been in virtual I've done virtual environment stuff where

658
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: the graphics were pretty low quality. You know, it wasn't

659
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: like photo realistic graphics or anything, but it's still a

660
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: very compelling experience because of the the response of the system.

661
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: So to me, that's the most important part is that

662
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: the processor is able to handle the input of you

663
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: moving your head around and seamlessly incorporate that into what

664
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: you are looking at within the context of the view.

665
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: I don't know I'm still very skeptical that I almost

666
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: see VR following the same kind of path, oh sadness

667
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: as the Microsoft Connect sensor, which had a lot of

668
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: potential but never got Like you were saying, it didn't

669
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: have a lot of support, like there weren't there weren't

670
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: a lot of really compelling reasons to use it. You

671
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: can see what the potential was for it, but because

672
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 1: those those potentials never became reality, ultimately it's not even

673
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: included in most bundles of Xbox hardware now. It's it's

674
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: a peripheral that hardly anyone purchases or uses, and in

675
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: fact often updates to the Xbox users uh experience the

676
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: user interface will remove functionality from existing connect hardware. So

677
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: that makes me think, well, I think the R may

678
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: follow that same path, where unless there are really compelling

679
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: reasons to use the technology, it doesn't matter how good

680
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: the hardware is. Uh So, I don't think the hardware

681
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: is gonna necessarily all come out in and I don't

682
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 1: think that there's gonna be enough content to even support

683
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: the really good stuff. And again I hope I'm wrong.

684
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: If I'm wrong, that's awesome because I would love to

685
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: have really great vr UM. I don't think I could

686
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: go so far as to outfit one of my rooms

687
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: in my house with the valve approach, where you've got

688
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: the cameras that are mounted up and you can actually

689
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: wander around your room and it creates uh dynamic barriers

690
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: so that you don't bump into stuff like your walls.

691
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: But you need a big room, empty room to do

692
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: that in. I don't have that, so I don't I

693
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 1: don't think I'll go that far. But if they could

694
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: come up with something that really does UH, that's priced well,

695
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: that works well with the the devices, that actually works

696
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: as a peripheral H, then I would be satisfied. I

697
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: just don't think it's gonna happen. Know it's sad. A

698
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: lot of the technologies we're talking about are really cool.

699
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: They're extremely cool. It kind of reminds me of when

700
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: the first tablets came out. The first tablet PCAs like,

701
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: this is a really cool idea, but there was a

702
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: lot of problems with it. With the ultramobile PCs, there

703
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: were tiny little computers they can carry with you. Really

704
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: cool idea execution not there. And I don't want to

705
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 1: say this because if people will label me a fan boy.

706
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm very curious if if an Apple approach would make

707
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: it different because a lot of these products have been

708
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: out there and they've been iterated upon. But what will

709
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: it take for to go Oh that's amazing, because Apple

710
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: tried to watch thing and people aren't like blown away.

711
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: So the question is what is it going to finally

712
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: take it. I don't know if Apple can do it

713
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: and make the headset look like a daft punk helmet

714
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 1: they got it made. Well. That also helps you when

715
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: you're walking around you're not but when you bump your

716
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: head into a telephone pole, you got protection, right, and

717
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: and then raves just break out around you and it's,

718
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: you know, kind of awesome. I like this idea, Yeah

719
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: I do too. All right, well it's my turn for

720
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: the next one. So my next prediction is that the

721
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: cable industry will see shrink subscriber numbers again. So this

722
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: year we saw some some the cable companies, cable television

723
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: is what I'm talking about here. Cable television subscriptions were

724
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: starting to go down. Uh, they were not able to

725
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: add more consumers than they were losing. And there's a

726
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: growing population of people who are never getting cable in

727
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: the first place. So the people who are leaving cable, those,

728
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: of course, are called the cord cutters. And there have

729
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: been predictions for years that that population was going to explode.

730
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: It hasn't grown at the speed that a lot of

731
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: people had predicted, but there are more and more people

732
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: who are going that route. And then there are the

733
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: cord never's. These are the younger people mostly who are

734
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: who just never bothered to sign up to cable in

735
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,959
Speaker 1: the first place. They get all their contents some other way.

736
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: Now they might have a cable company as their internet

737
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: service provider, but they're not they're not subscribing to cable television.

738
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see that trend continue. I don't

739
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 1: think this is gonna be like the tipping point where

740
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:08,959
Speaker 1: we suddenly, uh see cable subscriptions just drop off at

741
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: a really sharp cliff. I don't think that's gonna happen

742
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: in But we are going to see the trend continue

743
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: as it has already started. I think we've already experienced

744
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: peak cable television, in other words, and now we're on

745
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: the decline. And this decline, you know, it's it's gonna

746
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: be significant, but it's not going to be a huge

747
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: percentage of the overall population of cable subscribers. It's just

748
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: not gonna be a good story for cable companies to

749
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: tell their shareholders. It's an interesting idea. I think you

750
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: might be onto something, but I'm going to argue with

751
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: you for the sake of arguing with you. Well, you are.

752
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: You do have training as a lawyer, so yeah, there

753
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: was a time. I'm retired lawyer. There's a there's a

754
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 1: as an actual piece of mail that sets. So anyway,

755
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: let let me let me run this, this this scenario.

756
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: There are so many different over the top solutions you

757
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: can get. When it comes to video. You can pay

758
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: fifteen dollars a month for HBO. You can pay nine

759
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 1: bucks for Stars uh, ten bucks for Showtime or whatever.

760
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: All of these things you can keep adding on. Okay,

761
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: and you're still paying your cable, sorry, your internet bill.

762
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: When you start putting all the math together, at some

763
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: point these cable in the cable industry needs to realize something.

764
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: There is a tipping point where it is cheaper to

765
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 1: just get that streaming pipe of garbage where you're getting

766
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: every single network and you have a DVR and potentially

767
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: cloud DBR storage with certain certain cable companies that it

768
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: just makes more sense to have cable There's no, there's

769
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: not necessarily a network issue when it comes to oh,

770
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: we seem to have some congestion. Are you playing a

771
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: video game? Is that why we're getting crappy streaming? Is

772
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: that what's happening? No? No, No No, that doesn't happen with

773
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: cable I really think if they brand this properly, because

774
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: we have so many options, it's actually cheaper at some

775
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: point to just get cable TV, And people who record

776
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: members might go, wait a second, that's cheaper, and I

777
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: get all this other stuff, and I get so why

778
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: would I ever bother with all of these apps when

779
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: I know I just have to change my input to

780
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: H d M I two it only it only really

781
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: works if the consumer really wants all that that content

782
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: that can only be available on different services. Right, if

783
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: they are satisfied with one or two services, then that's

784
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: not gonna they won't they won't find a compelling case

785
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 1: to adopt cable television. Uh. If they're into live sports,

786
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: that's the strongest cell that cable TV has. I would say,

787
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: like that's the that's the biggest Uh, attractive thing that

788
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: that cable TV can put hold out in front of

789
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: potential consumers. But if they think, well, there's this small

790
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: group of programming that I'm really interested in, and if

791
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: I get HBO Go and if I get is a Goer, now,

792
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 1: I guess its Hbo now. Um. But if I get

793
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: the Hbo app and if I get the uh, you know,

794
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime subscription, that's everything I need. And if I

795
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: look at the basic cable service I'm getting and I

796
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: add all that up and it's still gonna be the

797
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: same or less than what cable TV is, I'm just

798
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: gonna go with that. Um. But yeah, I mean that

799
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,439
Speaker 1: there is definitely a tipping point because if you're talking

800
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: about more than that, especially when you factor in the

801
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: cost of a Internet service provider, which maybe if if

802
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: the I s P is the same as the cable company.

803
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: You and I both know this, there will be that

804
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: will come up with bundles where it's cheaper to get

805
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: the bundle than it would be just to get a

806
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 1: single service, and that at that point you're like, well,

807
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: from a financial standpoint, it just makes sense for me

808
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: to have cable TV, and even if I never hook

809
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: up the cable box. That's exactly how I lived. I

810
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: did that, I got my faster speed, it was cheaper.

811
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: I just had this basics that top box, which I've

812
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: never bothered to hook up. It just made more sense monetarily.

813
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: So if the argument can be made by the cable

814
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 1: companies and this will require them to actually be trying

815
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: to get consumers on board, that's the crazy thing. There

816
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: are cable companies right now, at least even in New York,

817
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: Time Owner Cable will give you a ten dollar option

818
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: where you can get a limited bunch of channels through

819
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: a Roku that they provide you, and if you have

820
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: any of the rokus around the house, you can watch

821
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: it that way. It's not the same functionality as a

822
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: cable box. You're not getting all the same on demand stuff.

823
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: You're not getting maybe all the channels. But if they're

824
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: willing to do that, I don't see why they can't

825
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: figure out, Oh, by the way, it's cheaper if we

826
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: do it this other way. Yeah, I mean, I can

827
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: see where your argument is. But however, the whole bundle

828
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: thing and approach has been around for a while and

829
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: we're still seeing the trend of people getting away from cable.

830
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: Some of that may just be due to customers who

831
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: are fed up with cable companies. You know, and and

832
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: because not to name name, but one of the guys

833
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: on this podcast is certainly fed up with his I

834
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: s P. And and and also and and would not

835
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: blink an eye about going away from cable and just

836
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: going straight to a different I s P and just

837
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: getting internet service. Uh that guy is not I s

838
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: By the way, Well, I'm not happy with my sp here,

839
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: but that as I'm more pleased with it now than

840
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: I used to be. That's a whole other story for

841
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: a whole other time. Yeah, and a different podcast. So

842
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: at any rate, Uh, I think we're still going to

843
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: see the trend continue. I I do agree that cable

844
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: companies have an opportunity to position themselves in such a

845
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: way where they can make the argument that it makes

846
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: more financial sense to be a cable subscriber than to

847
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: go all a cart But I don't think it's going

848
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: to be enough to reverse the trend. It may slow it,

849
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's going to reverse it. What's

850
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: wrong with the buffet? That's that's that's the tagline. You get,

851
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: what's wrong with the buffet dim some charge. It gets

852
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: really really expensive, but you can get a FAE. That's

853
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: it's a hard sell. You know, I don't know either.

854
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: The few buffets and you start to realize what could

855
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: be wrong with the buffet? Why you don't eat at

856
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 1: a buffet? Like the quality isn't very good? Right that

857
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: that food has been sitting out there too long? What's

858
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: your next? Okay, bold acquisition prediction. The more I look

859
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: at it, the more I think it's wrong. So I'm

860
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: gonna stick to it. Anyway, Facebook's going to buy HTC alright,

861
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 1: So HTC for folks who have forgotten they exist. They

862
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: make electronics used I believe that the HTC s to

863
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: stand for high Tech Computer or something like that, and

864
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: they've had trouble really regaining the dominance they used to

865
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: have in the Android space. They were, I believe, the

866
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: launch partner with Google when he came to the first

867
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: h first Android phone. It's a little banana shaped looking phone.

868
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: It was. It was the first Android phone in the

869
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 1: United States. I owned one, the G one right the

870
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: slider keyboard, so it was a It was a really

871
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: interesting idea and they did a great job skinning Android

872
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: where it was an usable product because at the time,

873
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: Android was a little bit less than polished. These days,

874
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: we've got Samsung, We've got LERG trying to nip at

875
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: the heels of Samsung, but Samsung is really the big

876
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: dog and Android when it comes to just dominance and

877
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: and Google itself has gotten better at skinning Android so

878
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: that it is more user friendly and attractive. So even

879
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: if you're going with the flagship Android phones that haven't

880
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: had a lot of additional stuff put on them by

881
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: other carriers, it's still a lot better than what it

882
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: used to be. Yes, So Facebook has been trying to

883
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: make some kind of headway into the phone space. They

884
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: tried to have a couple of different phones that had

885
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: like a Facebook dedicated button. I believe a CC might

886
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: have made both of them in another phone that had

887
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: Facebook Home, which I think was their launcher replacement when

888
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 1: it came to using an Android phone. But Facebook has

889
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: not had a lot of success when it comes to

890
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: this kind of this kind of entry into the phone market,

891
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: so I think they're not just gonna bother to make

892
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: their own phone kind of like Apple did. What they

893
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: would do is go out purchase atc and the reason

894
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: why I started hedging at the very beginnings, like well,

895
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: ATC has a VR side to it with the HTC vibe,

896
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: not realizing wait a second, they could use that type

897
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: of those people and put them with the Oculus team,

898
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: or they could just spend them off from sell them

899
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: off anyway. But there's a lot of money on Facebook.

900
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: There's a CC sitting around kind of floundering. Why not

901
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: Facebook is not doing anything anyway. I have no argument

902
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: one way or the other for this one. It is Uh,

903
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: I can certainly see it happening. I mean not if

904
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: Facebook's also gonna buy Yahoo. That's just too busy for

905
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: two thou sixt so, but that's okay because I've already

906
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: stated Microsoft the one buying out who. So I don't

907
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: have any argument here. I think you might be onto something.

908
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: So with that, I'm just gonna segue into the next

909
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: one so that this episode doesn't go four hours. My

910
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: next one is that this is another gimme. This. I

911
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: think this is probably the biggest gimme, just that we're

912
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 1: gonna see some a lot more growth in online media. Uh,

913
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: we're already seeing it. I mean, we're seeing lots more

914
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: interest in web series We're seeing a lot more original

915
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: programming from Amazon and from Hulu and Netflix. I think

916
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: that's going to continue. We already know that these companies

917
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: are going to be offering even more original content, but

918
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: I think we're going to see that also from a

919
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: lot more independent uh creators. I think the real challenge

920
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: of twenty sixteen is going to be something that's already

921
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: been tough in the past, but now it's going to

922
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: be the defining challenge. It's going to be discovery. How

923
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: do you get the thing that you pour your heart

924
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: and soul into discovered by your audience. You know, it's

925
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: not even necessarily for the independent creators. It may not

926
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: even be a question of how can I get paid

927
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: to do this? It may just be how can I

928
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: make sure people see what I do so that I'm

929
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: not just creating something and shoving it into the void

930
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: and no one ever notices it. But I really do

931
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: think we're gonna see a lot more experimentation in the

932
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: space because the fact that the Internet allows us to

933
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,959
Speaker 1: create content that does not have to conform to any

934
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: particular length the way television shows do. We don't have

935
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: to stick to the twenty two or forty four minute format.

936
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: We can make whatever links we want. I think we're

937
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: going to see more content creators experiment with longer form content.

938
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: But for the longest time, the message has been keep

939
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: it short because people will drop off and stop watching

940
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: your stuff after a minute or two minutes, you know,

941
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: whatever the length happens to be. But I think that

942
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: there are some properties out there that are proven if

943
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: you make good stuff, people will stay and watch the

944
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: whole thing. Yeah, you're gonna have people drop off. That's

945
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: always gonna happen. Partly, it will happen because people will

946
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: be like, well, I've I've watched the beginning of this,

947
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: but I need to pause it now because I have

948
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: to go do something else. But I'll come back and

949
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: pick up where I left off later. So I think

950
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna see a lot more experimentation and just a

951
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: lot more volume of online media, uh, from all sorts

952
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: of different parties. What do you think? I think I

953
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: think you're pretty much right, because the thing is making

954
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: video content or making audio content, making content available or

955
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: just creating it that is and making it available. Both

956
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 1: of those things are really really easy. Nowadays. You can

957
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: describ a phone, you can do a recording, you can

958
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: put it up on YouTube. You could periscope that's available

959
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: for a little bit. You can do a live stream

960
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: of video games. You can do pretty much anything at

961
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 1: any time with a phone or your console. I mean,

962
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: this stuff is that this this the sharing stuff is right.

963
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: I feel like an old man. The sharing stuff is

964
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: built into the consoles, you see what I'm saying. But yes,

965
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: there this stuff is so simple to upload. And it

966
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 1: used to be there was this larger barrier when it

967
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: came to hosting space. Where am I gonna put this

968
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: three d megabyte file for this this six forty by

969
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: three sixty video, where I'm gonna put this right? And

970
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: there's all kinds of places that are are just given

971
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: away all this space for free because there's all kinds

972
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: of perhaps dastardly kind of things. Oh we own all

973
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 1: this stuff you made or whatever. We can earn money

974
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: in some other way through the fact that you are

975
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: providing content to our service. Exactly you do the content,

976
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: we can put ads on it. That's the way that's

977
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: gonna work. So it's it's so much easier than it's

978
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: ever been. And the thing is with online media in general,

979
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: this this world of online video in particular, I'm thinking

980
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: about that's changed entirely. Like when when you think of

981
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: originally about Netflix, or when they started streaming a lot,

982
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: there was just this catalog of of just lots of

983
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 1: old video. Then there's this it's actually essentially a network

984
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: where they're having their own content being what's the word

985
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: I'm looking for here, commissioned, So they're getting they're comissioning

986
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: their own stuff. Same thing with all these other services,

987
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: Amazon and even I think Sony's Crackle hasn't its new service,

988
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: it's got a new series. All of these different companies

989
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: are looking for this. So I think it's only a

990
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: matter of time before companies like that start commissioning even

991
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: smaller people. They don't need to keep following the television model.

992
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: There's nothing saying that something on Netflix has to be

993
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: forty four minutes or twenty two minutes. We're just kind

994
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: of conditioned for that right now. And I think what's happening,

995
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: like you were talking about with cord Never's or cord cutters,

996
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: this idea that there's no reason why you have to

997
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: sit through certain parts of a video. You can just

998
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: jump to where you want to go or you want

999
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: to say this is three minutes, it better be a

1000
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: damn good three minutes. But I still think there's this

1001
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: learning curve that's going on right now of what is

1002
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: the optimal length of video because there's there's no such thing.

1003
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: You go to a movie theater, you see a classic,

1004
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be over two hours. Nobody's saying, well, god

1005
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: Father part two, you know there's gonna be a lot

1006
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: of viewer drop off. People just gonna walk out the

1007
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: theater at it. It's like, you know what, if you

1008
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: have a compelling story, the timing isn't the problem. It's

1009
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 1: about coming up with the proper way to keep people

1010
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 1: engage the whole time. So just a lot more experimentation

1011
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 1: because there's so many more creators who can get their

1012
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 1: voice out. But like you said, discover ability that is

1013
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: very difficult. It takes more sense for a company like

1014
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: here you go, Netflix goes and buy Yahoo because they're like, okay, fine,

1015
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: we have a search engine. It's better now happy. I

1016
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: don't know, yeah, it's I mean, it's it's truly tough.

1017
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: Like larger companies have more more options obviously, like if

1018
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: you want to utilize social media and purchase advertising on

1019
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: social media to get your your stuff out in front

1020
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: of more eyeballs. Then that's great. But if you're a small,

1021
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: independent creator, you might not have the budget to put

1022
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: towards that kind of marketing effort, And in that case,

1023
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: it just does become this challenge of how do I

1024
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: get this thing that I'm really proud of that I

1025
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: think is high quality, that I think people will like

1026
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: if they see it. How do I get it so

1027
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: that people can actually find it? That's just gonna be

1028
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,760
Speaker 1: a continuing challenge. And anyone who figures out really cool

1029
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:04,720
Speaker 1: ways to aggregate various content or point customers at stuff

1030
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: that they would already like, uh, they stand to make

1031
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: a killing like that could be a huge business if

1032
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: you can figure out a way of doing that and

1033
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: in a way that's transparent and not underhanded, right, Not like, Okay,

1034
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: I made deals with these ten content creators and I'm

1035
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 1: gonna keep pushing them to all of my customers and

1036
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: nobody else gets seen. That's probably not gonna work. But

1037
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: if you can create a service where you really can

1038
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: aggregate stuff, sort of similar to like YouTube, the way

1039
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: they the YouTube presents videos that you might also like

1040
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: based upon your past viewing experience something along that, but

1041
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: better because I think YouTube, I keep seeing the same

1042
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,479
Speaker 1: videos pop up under suggestion and I'm like, I haven't

1043
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: clicked on it yet. YouTube today is not the day either. Well,

1044
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: I mean the thing is it used to be YouTube

1045
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: was horrible at that. Now it's a little bit better.

1046
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: And then eventually figure out, Yeah, we get the hint

1047
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: that there should be a button like take a hint. Well,

1048
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 1: I think we've reached the point of the podcast where

1049
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: we go into kind of the quick fire mode. I

1050
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: know you've got a couple of quick fire things you

1051
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: wanted to mention, So why don't you go ahead and start?

1052
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: And then I've got some questions for both of us

1053
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: to kind of mull over, and also for people out

1054
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: there listening for you guys to mull over. Maybe you

1055
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: come up with an answer that is different from ours

1056
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: and you want to share it. I welcome that kind

1057
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: of opportunity. So shoot I as a rapid fire predictions

1058
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: for the Nintendo n X. It's next system will be good.

1059
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: Greed disagreed. Uh, it has to be good. If it

1060
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: If it's not good, that's really not good for Nintendo.

1061
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: Apple will finally let you set default apps on iOS.

1062
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: No Apple will create default iOS apps and tell you

1063
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: that you like them. That's that's what they do. Which

1064
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: we're thinking, and we are going to see a battery

1065
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: tech breakthrough next year. Either it's gonna be fuel cells

1066
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: in phones and that's gonna be like gonna happen, or

1067
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna have something that has like twenty million powers.

1068
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: I would love to see this. This is one of

1069
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: those where you're starting to run up against the challenge

1070
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: of physics. You know, there's only so much you can

1071
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: do with electrochemical batteries. Fuel cells are an interesting idea,

1072
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: but you have to keep refueling them. I I hope

1073
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: that this is the case. I know there's been a

1074
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: lot of work with various nano materials that have really

1075
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: increased the the time that a battery will hold a charge,

1076
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,959
Speaker 1: as well as decrease the amount of time it takes

1077
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: to charge it up to full. Like we keep hearing

1078
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: stories about this battery can recharge and in thirty seconds

1079
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: to power downside is after ten cycles it's dead. So

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00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm hope. I'm hoping that it does happen. That's what

1081
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: I've got. Okay, Well, here's some rapid fire questions. Okay,

1082
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: this one, I think, I think I know what your

1083
00:58:58,360 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: answer is gonna because I think it's gonna be the

1084
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: same as mine. But maybe you'll surprise me. Will we

1085
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: see a truly autonomous car debut in two thousand sixteen

1086
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: for the code consumer? No? I also think that's no

1087
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: in the US anyway. I agree. I think if we

1088
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: do see any autonomous cars, we're gonna continue to see

1089
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: them pun intended, rolled out in a uh in a

1090
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: in a way where it's going to be used for

1091
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: a very specific use case, but not for general transportation,

1092
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: not yet, not in two thousand sixteen. Okay, do you

1093
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: think there are any companies that are poised to have

1094
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: a big shakedown at the executive level something where maybe

1095
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: we see a CEO Alsted or some other massive restructuring

1096
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: major companies or just saying asking for companies, Well, major

1097
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: companies would probably be the one I would look at.

1098
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, if there's any like, yeah, you know there's

1099
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: this uh pizza place I go to, I think I

1100
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: think Peppers and Johnny's is just fine. But I think

1101
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,479
Speaker 1: a STC. I keep saying a CC because they're they're

1102
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: in the muck and otherwise, why not BlackBerry shuffle. That's

1103
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: a yeah, that's a pretty good bet. Yeah, um yeah,

1104
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: I agree with those. Okay, So how about do you

1105
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: think there are any tech bubbles that are ready to

1106
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: pop something that's been overhyped to the point where in

1107
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen it's going to deflate entirely. I think

1108
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: maybe terminology like the uber of X. Yeah, We'll go

1109
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: away because I'm tired of the It's the uber of

1110
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: dog Walkers. It's like, okay, it's like how all action

1111
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: movies became. It's die hard on a blank, on a

1112
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: boat or on a train. I agree with that. I

1113
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: also think things like the food delivery services, it's gotten

1114
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: really kind of crowded in that space. That's that's related

1115
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: to tech. Obviously, it's not exactly tech. It's in that

1116
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: weird like usually use an app to interact with it.

1117
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: So that's kind of why I lumped it in here.

1118
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 1: I do think that those are, at least some of

1119
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: those are going to go away. It's really hard to

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01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: do that in a profitable way because you're spending so

1121
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: much time just going out and getting the food, not

1122
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: even including the time it takes to take the food

1123
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: from the location to the destination. The cut the consumer

1124
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: that finding a way to charge for that service that

1125
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: isn't prohibitively expensive and still pay the people who work

1126
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: for you is really hard. Now in robots, when not

1127
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: top of his cars do roll out, it will be easy,

1128
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: but right now not so much. Um, do you think

1129
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: any technology is going to officially become dead in something that?

1130
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: All right, no one is is seriously pushing this technology anymore.

1131
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: We're walking away. You know, you might still see it

1132
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: on store shelves somewhere, but no one's no one's advertising it. No,

1133
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: because everything I think they should be dead is not dead.

1134
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: Like MP three players are not dead. Smart TV apps

1135
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: and are not dead. They are getting better smart TV

1136
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: app but they don't die. They just kind of become

1137
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: a bullet point on a list a smaller just just

1138
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: an item for a smaller niche market. I guess I

1139
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: would love to see three D television just not even

1140
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 1: be mentioned anymore, maybe like have it on as a

1141
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: bullet list on a television box just says it's three

1142
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: D capable. But uh, three D television was one of

1143
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 1: those products that the industry really pushed really hard, and

1144
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: it never really got anywhere because for multiple reasons. I

1145
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: think a big one being that the the content wasn't

1146
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: really there. There wasn't enough yet when they started pushing

1147
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: three D TVs, and also the old saying that everyone

1148
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: who who winces at the thought three D television brings up.

1149
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 1: No one wants to have to wear glasses to watch television,

1150
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: or an additional pair of glasses in the case of

1151
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: some of us. I think the only successful wearable in

1152
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: the history other than wearing glasses, weable technology that we

1153
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: actually wear. And nobody seems that blink and eyat is,

1154
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 1: earbuds and earphones were okay with that. Yeah, that's it. Yeah,

1155
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: I agree. All right. So do you think the Facebook

1156
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: Professional Services platform will be a success? I had to

1157
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: look this up because I didn't know that was a thing.

1158
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 1: But what what I found out it was it's kind

1159
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 1: of like YELP, and I think it'll be a sneaky

1160
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 1: success maybe in a year or two. I don't know

1161
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 1: if it'll be a success next year right away, but

1162
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: Facebook needs to be able to explain what it is

1163
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: because sometimes that search fields like do you want to

1164
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 1: see pictures of Jonathan or do you want to find

1165
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 1: a pizza place. It's like, yeah, what am I? What

1166
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: am I doing on Facebook? Exactly? Yeah? Well, and Facebook

1167
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: Professional Services. The idea is to like, Facebook has reached

1168
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: such penetration that it's going to be really hard for

1169
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: them to grow from that perspective, right, I mean, once

1170
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: you hit a billion users, it really does start to

1171
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: get hard to make that number get noticeably bigger. Meanwhile,

1172
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 1: you've got stakeholders who expect the company to grow so

1173
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 1: expanding by creating a platform that businesses might be able

1174
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: to use. And uh, there we've seen some components already launched.

1175
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 1: There's a Facebook Professional Message app that launched on Android

1176
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: earlier this year. I haven't used it. I have no

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01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: idea if it's good or not. I don't know if

1178
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: this is going to become the new tool for businesses,

1179
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: so that you know, this becomes like a new productivity

1180
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: communications tool, kind of like something like Slack is. But

1181
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: then I'm also at the age where I don't really

1182
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 1: understand the value of Slack, So maybe I'm the wrong

1183
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: person to answer this question in the first place. I

1184
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: do know that whenever I open up Slack, I question

1185
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: why I'm on it. I'm like this I remember when

1186
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: this was Google Wave and nobody wanted it back then. Um,

1187
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: it's got a better it's got a better branding. It's okay,

1188
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: I guess Google. Yeah, alright, So this next question, I'm

1189
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 1: going to to accuse i As for answering it, because uh,

1190
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: he's not as big into the computer games as I am.

1191
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 1: But the question I wrote was will the Star Citizen

1192
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: game actually come out in six Now? First of all,

1193
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: I As, have you heard of the game Star Citizen?

1194
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: Just now? Okay? So Star Star Citizen was a crowdfunded

1195
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: or is a crowdfunded game that raised a ludicrous amount

1196
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: of money, like seventy or eighty million dollars, a crazy

1197
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: amount of money for a crowdsourced game. And part of

1198
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: the game, a large part of the game involves flying

1199
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: spaceships around in this enormous space environment within the game,

1200
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: and you purchase with real money your spaceships like you

1201
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: can you can use. I think there's some that are

1202
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 1: just standard with the game, but they're very limited in

1203
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 1: their capabilities. But you can spend real money, and I'm

1204
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: talking in the hundreds of dollars in some cases to

1205
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 1: buy a little virtual spaceship that has different capabilities, and

1206
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: then you you own that it's like in your hangar

1207
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 1: and you get this one of the ships you can use.

1208
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: And that's one of the ways that they've raised so

1209
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: much money is by selling this virtual spacecraft stuff. And

1210
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: there are some limited uh programs that let you fly

1211
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 1: your spaceship around. But the actual game hasn't come out yet,

1212
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: and it's been delayed and delayed and delayed, and the

1213
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: official announcement is that it will come out sometime in

1214
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen. Most people are expecting in the

1215
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, So at the end of two thousand sixteen,

1216
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 1: I am skeptical that it will come out. My fear

1217
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: not that I'm invested in this game. I haven't purchased it.

1218
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: I don't own a spacecraft in this game. But my

1219
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,959
Speaker 1: fear is that it will become sort of like Duke

1220
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: Newcombe Forever, where you have a game that's been in

1221
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: development for quite some time, and as they're working out

1222
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 1: the bugs and making the game just work, stuff changes

1223
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: enough where they want to update what they've already done

1224
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: in order to take advantage of new capabilities that are computers,

1225
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 1: which then pushes the actual debut back even further and

1226
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: this continues until ultimately you just have to throw your

1227
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: arms up the air and say, we just have to

1228
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: put something out. And I fear will not be that

1229
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: year that it will slip to tw if it comes

1230
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 1: out at all. Um, based on what you said and

1231
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 1: what I've learned, No, it will not come. And if

1232
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: it does, that's awesome, especially for the people who have

1233
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 1: spent so much money. There's another podcaster that I listened

1234
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: to who has spent I think close to nine dollars

1235
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 1: on a computer game that isn't out yet. Nine on

1236
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 1: a computer game. I as you could have a gaming

1237
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 1: rig for that. Yeah, you could buy an arcade machine

1238
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 1: for that. Not one of the good ones, but you could. Um.

1239
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 1: And then final question, I think this is the most

1240
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 1: important one out of all the ones. Do you think

1241
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 1: Star Wars Rogue one, the first Star Wars spinoff film,

1242
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: will be any good? Any good? Sure? Will you go

1243
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: see it? Probably? Yeah, I'll go see it. I'm seeing

1244
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 1: Star Wars the tonight, the day we record this on

1245
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: December seventeenth, I'm seeing it tonight. So finally going to

1246
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: see the fourth unleashed or awakened, rather awakened. It might

1247
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 1: be unleashed it could be if they put up, if

1248
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: they put the Force on a leash, it's gonna break free.

1249
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 1: It'll be unleashed again. It's got to be woken up first,

1250
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 1: that's true. It doesn't have to wake up first. It's

1251
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 1: been asleep for like, you know. I guess that's how

1252
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 1: you get a leash on it. I guess that's true.

1253
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: Is you can sneak up on the Force while sleeping,

1254
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 1: leash it. It wakes up unleashed Force awakens, is what

1255
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: I meant. Um, Yeah, so that I'm going to see

1256
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 1: that tonight, I expect. I actually don't know how I

1257
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:56,679
Speaker 1: feel about the idea of Star Wars spinoff movies because

1258
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 1: part of me is less interested because it does not

1259
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 1: relate to the overall story arc of episodes one through

1260
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: nine and maybe beyond if they decided to continue, which

1261
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 1: it's Disney they're gonna continue. Um, but you know, and

1262
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 1: it also makes me worried that's going to turn into

1263
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 1: something like the Marvel franchises, which have gotten a little

1264
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 1: too crowded. I think I think we're getting a few

1265
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 1: too many Marvel movies per year. Now, that's impossible. I

1266
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 1: can't wait for Disney to finally have a crossover between

1267
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 1: Star Wars and Spider Man. It's actually they do have

1268
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,759
Speaker 1: rights to Spider Man. But they could do a crossover

1269
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: at some point and it could happen, and we will

1270
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 1: be horrified when it happens. When when when Iron Fist

1271
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 1: shows up at the Cantina, and yeah, that would be

1272
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 1: he Wait, well, that's that's crazy. You need a time

1273
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: traveler or somebody who's been around forever, hasn't been like Apocalypse. Actually,

1274
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 1: Apocalypse is not usable because he's in Fox. You're gonna

1275
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 1: have to use Doctor Strange. He can't use Silver Surfer.

1276
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:58,759
Speaker 1: He's with Fantastic four. Oh my gosh, he's stuck. Oh no,

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