1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg Business Week with Carol Messer and 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Quick Takes. Tim Stinovic on Bloomberg Radio Bloomberg Intelligence 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: Reporter earlier this year about e s G, saying it 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: may surpass forty one trillion assets this year fifty trillion 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: by five, making it one third of the projected total 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: assets under management globally. Tim, It's a lot. It's what 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: investors want, and we often talk with heads and leaders 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: within companies about their growing E s G initiatives. One 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: of those companies is CVS Health. Joe and Wier is 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: Vice president of Corporate Social Responsibility and Sustainability at CVS Health. 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: She joins us on Zoom from Rhode Island. Joeanne, good 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: to have you with us. How are you? I'm doing well? 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: Thank you? Tim? Hi, Carrol Hi well. Earlier this month, 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: CVS Health published its first h s G report. Why 15 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: was this the year to do this? Why now? So? 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: This is actually our fifteenth annual report. Um. We used 17 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: to call it our Corporate Social Responsibility Report, but as 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: you just mentioned, uh, environmental and the social commitments that 19 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: companies make in the way that companies govern them has 20 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: really taken center stage in terms of the business community, 21 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: and so when it comes to reporting into transparency, we 22 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: felt it was important to change the nomenclature and really 23 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: position it as an E s G report, highlighting those 24 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: commitments that our company makes, what's top of line, and 25 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: where do you see that you guys have made the 26 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: most progress. We talked about E s G joan so much, 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: and there's certain parts of E s G that are 28 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: much easier for the world for investors to measure, but 29 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: not all of it because it's not apples to apples 30 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: from company to company. So talk to us about your 31 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: initiatives and where you feel like you're making the most 32 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: progress because you can measure it the best. Yeah, I mean, 33 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: I think a really a few critical points to think 34 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: about is, as you just said, you can't be all 35 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: things to all people, and so it's important to do 36 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: what's either called a materiality assessment or a topic prioritization, 37 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: and we did that this year. So as a healthcare company, 38 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: it won't surprise you that when you think about the 39 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: issues we care about, their really centered on the health 40 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: of people, the health of our communities, and the health 41 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: of our planet. And so we set a ten year roadmap. 42 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: I think the second really important thing to think about 43 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: is you have to have near term goals, but you 44 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: also have to have to be thinking about this in 45 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 1: the long term to be able to have meaningful impact 46 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: in the long range. And so we focus our strategy 47 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: and four key areas. We have four pillars. It's our 48 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: healthy strategy looking a decade out, and we're focused on 49 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: healthy people, healthy business, healthy community, and healthy planet. I 50 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: want to start with just talking about reducing waste, and 51 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: can you give us some figures on how much you've 52 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: reduced waste. So our commitment, I will say, to the 53 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: environment really starts with our commitment to climate. So hopefully 54 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: we'll get to that um. But our company is working 55 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: on reducing our waste, starting with our paper and plastic, 56 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: and so we've diverted about fifty of all of our 57 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: waste to recycling or reuse. You are listening to Bloomberg Business. 58 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: We Carl the US along with Tim Stanivik. We are 59 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: talking about CVS Health annual e s G report, the 60 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: latest one just out about e s G initiatives. More broadly, 61 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: with Joe and Dwyer. She's VP of Corporate Social Responsibility 62 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: and sustainability at CVS Health still with us via zoom 63 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: from Rhode Island. Hey, you know, Joean, I do want 64 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: to get back to what are the things that you 65 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: can really measure so well so that you can say, hey, 66 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: we are really making a constructive impact. So I think 67 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: in our case, when you think about being a healthcare 68 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: innovation company, we within our healthy People People pillar, we're 69 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: really thinking about by now, from now to impacting sixty 70 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: five billion healthcare interactions. And so that's you know, through 71 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: our CDs pharmacy locations, are minute clinic locations, through our 72 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: Ethna plans, through our care mark plans, and really making 73 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: sure that healthcare is accessible and changing the way we 74 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: think about healthcare. So it's on your corner, but it's 75 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: also in the palm of your hand. And if you 76 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: think about our commitments to community, we really want to 77 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: fill the gaps of our commercial business. So ensuring that 78 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: underserved and at risk populations have that same access to healthcare, 79 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: advancing health equity and reducing disparities is really top of 80 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: mind for us. So we're committing one point five billion 81 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: dollars over the next ten years to ensure that we 82 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: can reduce those disparities that we're seeing. How do you 83 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: you know, because I always find right that we've had 84 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: so many conversations Tim and I and our whole Bloomberg 85 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: News team over the last couple of years because of COVID. 86 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure you have had it as well as uh, 87 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: George Floyd in terms of inclusivity. Um, but how what 88 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: are the specific moves that really move the needle in 89 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: terms of making sure that healthcare and your services get 90 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: out to parts of our population that have been really 91 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: left behind. I think two things are critical. I think 92 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: it's important to recognize that even though there are people 93 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: who may be under uninsured, there's also going to be 94 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: people who have hesitancy in terms of the health care system. 95 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: So we work really closely with community partners at the 96 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: really local level, and so you know, we're not going 97 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: to assume that everybody can get to a CBS to 98 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: get vaccinated. We've put up pop up clinics and free 99 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: clinics and community health centers and y m c a 100 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: s around the country specifically referring to COVID. We also 101 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: launched earlier this year an initiative called health Zones, and 102 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: health Zones is really focused on addressing the key social 103 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: determinants of health. So in addition to ensuring that people 104 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: have actual access to healthcare, we want to make sure 105 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: that they have transportation that gets them to those doctors appointments. 106 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: We want to make sure that they have education that 107 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: advances their health literacy and helps them to, you know, 108 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: better understand how to achieve their best health. Affordable housing 109 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: because as you can imagine, if you don't have housing, 110 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: it's extremely difficult to care about your your and your 111 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: family's health. And so we're really looking at housing, education, 112 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: access to food UM, transportation UM, and so our health 113 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: zones are really focused at the zip code level, so 114 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: that we're not trying to boil the ocean. We're really 115 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: trying to be really local and helping people find these services. Joan, 116 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: I don't mean to be cynical here, but this is 117 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: a publicly traded company. You're responsible to shareholders. You think 118 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: about top line in the bottom line, and the company 119 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: c suite certainly does too. And I'm wondering how you 120 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: can draw some sort of line from the initiatives that 121 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: you take on an E. S G basis to the 122 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: health of the business and helping the business grow I mean, 123 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: I think if you think about it from a healthcare standpoint, 124 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: reducing overall healthcare costs in the in the communities that 125 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: we serve, reducing emergency room visits, that helps everybody, That 126 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: helps our business, and that helps UM, you know obviously 127 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: the communities that we serve. And if you think about it, 128 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: from our commitments to the environment and specifically our goals 129 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and eliminate our reliance on 130 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: greenhouse gas emissions by the year, there is real risk 131 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: related to climate um and weather related events that impact 132 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: our business, you know, hurricanes, flood fires, those impact our 133 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: business and cost us money. So the investments that we're 134 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: making in those places are helping us UM, and I 135 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: think our shareholders are asking us to be mindful of 136 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: these things more and more. Well, and it's interesting too, 137 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: and I think about you know, one of the things 138 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: that we've been kind of obsessing over, and maybe rightfully so, 139 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: is you know, the SEC putting out rules that would 140 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: require publicly traded companies, you know, to talk about climate 141 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: related risks and metrics, you know, And so we are 142 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: increasingly seeing regulators you know, step up to the plate 143 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: and want to know more on this, how how does 144 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: that impact what you are doing? And basically and basically 145 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: it speaks to write transparency and investors increasingly, you are 146 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: committing so much money, they really want to know if 147 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm making any s G investment, Am I really getting 148 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: what I'm investing in? Yeah? And we're fortunate because we've been, 149 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: you know, reporting our data, especially around climate for such 150 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: a long time. But when you think about it, this 151 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: doesn't just impact our company, It in impacts our broad 152 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: supply chain also. And if you and if you think 153 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: about what I was just talking about in terms of 154 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: climate related events, there is substantive risk or can be 155 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: substantive risk to your business. And so the SEC is saying, 156 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: we really want you to think about that risk, and 157 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: we want you to audit that risk the way you 158 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: would either you know, the way you would audit other 159 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: financial risks to your business. And so you know, just 160 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: as you know at home, we want to wash our 161 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: clothes in cold water, and we want to turn our 162 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: lights off when we leave a room. At our size 163 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: and scale, we're thinking about the things that impact us 164 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: and that can help us save money but also can 165 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: help us protect the planet in the long term. So 166 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: when it comes to you say ten years, is it 167 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: possibly you will do it all quicker because you know, 168 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: when it comes to so many E. S. G metrics, 169 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: I think about what you talk about in terms of housing. 170 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: The sooner we can do all of this, the better 171 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: it is for so many members of our society. Is 172 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: it likely that it's going to take ten years or 173 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: can you do it quicker? So I think that we 174 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: have Like I said earlier, it's really important to have 175 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: near term goals and then also longer term goals. So 176 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: if I think about our commitments in the energy space, yes, 177 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: we want to you know, be we want to be complete. 178 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: We have zero greenhouse gas emissions or net zero greenhouse 179 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: gas emissions by the year twenty fifty. But that means 180 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: we need to stop relying on carbon emissions by the 181 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: year twenty and we need to dramatically invest in renewable 182 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: energies between now and and So I think that there's 183 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: going to be some quick wins. And if you think 184 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: about it from the social side of things, the s 185 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: side of things, we've invested somewhere, um, you know, in 186 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: the range of two and forty million dollars in philanthropic 187 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: investments in the year one to do just what you've referenced. 188 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: So if you think about food security, that our investments 189 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: in the area of food security provided a hundred and 190 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: fifty nine million meals for people who are food and secure, 191 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: and of the meals are supporting those people who are 192 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: racially diversed in food and secure, so that we're making 193 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: sure that help is getting to people today. Well, we 194 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: appreciate your time and just checking in with us and 195 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: and getting an update on all the efforts you guys 196 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: are doing. Joe and Dwyer, she's VP of Corporate Social 197 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: Responsibility and Sustainability at CVS Health. Via zoom from Rhode Island,