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Speaker 2: Let's jump right into it. Oho.
Speaker 1: The Bills hang on and beat the Giants fourteen to nine.
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones without ty Rod Taylor came in and acquitted
Speaker 1: himself very well tonight.
Speaker 2: What was the takeaway from this game?
Speaker 4: My takeaway from the game was, obviously the Giants did
Speaker 4: what they needed to do offensively and defensively, not enough
Speaker 4: to get the w having a chance at the end. Obviously,
Speaker 4: clock management when they had to kick a field before
Speaker 4: before they half the clock.
Speaker 5: Manager was very bad before the half, right, they should
Speaker 5: have had.
Speaker 1: Because I want to know, I'm thinking the same thing
Speaker 1: you're thinking. I'm thinking, what was the call? Because we
Speaker 1: saw a similar call earlier this year with Baltimore right
Speaker 1: where they didn't want to snap the ball, they ended
Speaker 1: up snaw and they turned the ball over and they
Speaker 1: don't get a chance at the field goal. Right, because
Speaker 1: now instead of trying to for a touchdown to win
Speaker 1: the game, you.
Speaker 2: Kick a field goal and you win the game.
Speaker 1: So I would like to hear Brian a Ball talk
Speaker 1: talk about that, what transpired, what Tyrod, what was he thinking.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure what they were thinking, but that that
Speaker 4: one play one play in in a football game, there's
Speaker 4: sixty five to seventy plays. There are about two or
Speaker 4: three plays in a game that determine the outcome. And
Speaker 4: the mess up before the half and not being able
Speaker 4: to kick a field goal or at least score a
Speaker 4: touchdown is the reason why it went down to the
Speaker 4: wire the way it did. Obviously, they weren't they weren't.
Speaker 4: They weren't able to convert and get a touchdown at
Speaker 4: the end. But it was a good game. It was
Speaker 4: a good game and the fact that Daniel Jones wasn't playing,
Speaker 4: Sae Kwon was back. Say Kwan ran the ball extremely
Speaker 4: extremely well. I don't have a stat line because the
Speaker 4: game this said, I don't have a stat line. But
Speaker 4: Tyrod did what he could do and gave the Giants
Speaker 4: a chance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, these coaches got to get out of their own
Speaker 1: way because all of a sudden, now everybody wants to
Speaker 1: prove the how smart they are and go for it
Speaker 1: on fourth down, right and making it about themselves. We
Speaker 1: saw this in the Oregon game. He made it about himself.
Speaker 1: Punt that football. Do not give that ball back to
Speaker 1: Washington in that situation. And we keep seeing Pete Carroll,
Speaker 1: what the hell are you thinking? Take the field goal?
Speaker 1: Your defense is playing really well. You could after those
Speaker 1: first two drives. You guys did a number on the
Speaker 1: Bengals defense, on the Bengals offense. Take the points there,
Speaker 1: and now you're going down to kick a field goal
Speaker 1: to win the game instead of getting the ball, instead
Speaker 1: of trying to get a touchdown to win the game.
Speaker 1: Considering how bad you were in the red zone all
Speaker 1: day long. These coaches, everybody, well, I'm trying to run
Speaker 1: time off the clock.
Speaker 2: And you know, I don't want to give them the
Speaker 2: ball back. Bro.
Speaker 1: If you give them the ball back and they go
Speaker 1: get a touchdown or field goal getting field goal range
Speaker 1: with five six seconds, well you need to put that
Speaker 1: on your DC. You need to put that on your
Speaker 1: defensive players to do a better job. But I need
Speaker 1: to know what I need to hear Brian dave Ball
Speaker 1: and I need to hear Tyrod Taylor explain to me
Speaker 1: what the throat process was and what the call that
Speaker 1: came in, because there's no way in hell I run
Speaker 1: in that football because I already know, O Joe, there's
Speaker 1: only nine seconds you're not going to get an first
Speaker 1: of all down there. If they tackle you, you're not
Speaker 1: going to get another playoff if there's fifteen.
Speaker 4: Seconds, right they and actually before the half, they wouldn't
Speaker 4: let Tyrod Taylor up anyway, They wouldn't let them know.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't even.
Speaker 4: Let them let anybody up. And then I also would
Speaker 4: like the question I want to ask you. I want
Speaker 4: to double back to you and ask you. In that situation,
Speaker 4: it reminded me of the Seahawks game. Obviously with Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4: You have Marshawn Lynch in the back. But the Super Bowl,
Speaker 4: with the Super Bowl on the line, what would you
Speaker 4: have done in that situation if you were the ball,
Speaker 4: would you have actually thrown that or would you handed off?
Speaker 1: No? But here's the difference in the Seattle situation. In
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, they let they let the Patriots dictate.
Speaker 1: What they did is they brought their goal line personnel.
Speaker 1: They brought I think, if I'm not mistaken, they brought
Speaker 1: in six down line.
Speaker 2: They brought it.
Speaker 1: I think they jumped into a fifty three front right
Speaker 1: five down linemen. I don't care because guess what, it's
Speaker 1: only second.
Speaker 2: Down and I still got a time out. Go to
Speaker 2: let me go.
Speaker 1: So if I don't get it, I can call time
Speaker 1: if I need to.
Speaker 2: I probably won't. I'm gonna let the time tick.
Speaker 1: And now on third down, hey see what happened on
Speaker 1: FOURD down? If I need that. In these situations, coaches
Speaker 1: are overthinking it. Analytics department has ruined the has ruined
Speaker 1: sports because they say, well, if you do this, you
Speaker 1: got a fifty.
Speaker 2: Percent chance of losing.
Speaker 1: If you but it doesn't take into account momentum and
Speaker 1: what if all it gives you is like, if you
Speaker 1: go for here, this is what happens. If you score here,
Speaker 1: this is what happens. But what about the tide turning?
Speaker 1: What about the momentum in the ball game? It doesn't
Speaker 1: factor in that, And so these coaches are getting into
Speaker 1: the getting in their own way. I will say this,
Speaker 1: Darren Waller was interfered with on both of those plays, right,
Speaker 1: But you can you call you can't.
Speaker 4: You can't call that twice. Now come on, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: make a call. I can't call that twice though not
Speaker 4: nots not necessarily.
Speaker 2: As a deep as a but let me ask you
Speaker 2: a question, sir, did he get did he get? Hell? Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 4: But this is the thing about it, Shan, this is
Speaker 4: the thing about it. Listen, the refs could be picky.
Speaker 4: They could be picky.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: You know, you can call a holding play on every plate,
Speaker 4: but every plate, whether it's the lineman, whether it's the
Speaker 4: DB's there's always something going on on every play. So
Speaker 4: there's certain times, in certain situations you just can't throw
Speaker 4: that flag back to back like that allowed the Giant.
Speaker 4: The Giants already got there, they got there, they got
Speaker 4: they won. You got you when you got your first
Speaker 4: pass another way?
Speaker 2: Did but did he hope?
Speaker 1: But see heard the thing. Here's what my push back.
Speaker 1: It's only a one man route. It's right there at
Speaker 1: the back.
Speaker 2: Joe. You you you holding the guy right there from
Speaker 2: the back. O Joe, listen.
Speaker 4: As much as I want the Giants to win, that
Speaker 4: you can't throw. You can't give him that call twice
Speaker 4: in the brow. You can't you you can't oo.
Speaker 1: What is giving a call is the calling. We're going
Speaker 1: to discuss this a little later. Is that what Gibson
Speaker 1: Junior got Gibson's senior got in the Cleveland forty nine
Speaker 1: ers game.
Speaker 2: That was a gifted call because it didn't hit him
Speaker 2: in the neck. He didn't He didn't hit him in
Speaker 2: his head.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't hit anything, and they call unnecessary roughness
Speaker 1: in this situation. The only thing I will say about Waller,
Speaker 1: they're coming in. You're exposed to sell the run. You
Speaker 1: got more time than you think. In television, if you
Speaker 1: read the prompter, they always tell you. I remember when
Speaker 1: I started when I tell classes, even though I didn't
Speaker 1: think I was gonna have to read the prompter, but
Speaker 1: sometimes I do. They say, Shannon, you have more time
Speaker 1: than you think. When he came with that crack motion
Speaker 1: with Dariel slate. Now, anything like oh this is about
Speaker 1: to be a run, I'll block down because I know,
Speaker 1: I know it's a past. They don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: Two thousand and one, thousand and two. All I need
Speaker 1: him to do is to put his eyes on the
Speaker 1: back or put his out somewhere.
Speaker 5: Second.
Speaker 2: Now I'm behind it.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. All I needed to do is hesitate.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go to him. I'm a block down
Speaker 1: to make him think it's gonna be trying to cross
Speaker 1: crack the ball to Saquon. All he had to do
Speaker 1: was faked take time. I thought he went too quick
Speaker 1: right and he didn't sell.
Speaker 4: It, but he still he ran out a little bit
Speaker 4: of real estate too. So again, I mean, I think.
Speaker 1: That's why you slow that, because think about, Oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: that's why you slow.
Speaker 2: That out right right right where you're gonna go.
Speaker 1: It's not a play like you're in the middle of
Speaker 1: the field and you run that play because now you
Speaker 1: got room to run.
Speaker 2: You only got ten yards.
Speaker 5: So again, I don't know. You might have answered it,
Speaker 5: but I didn't hear you.
Speaker 4: So if you were the ball in that situation, would
Speaker 4: you have gone with that same play with the pass
Speaker 4: play the waller? Would you have run it with Saquan
Speaker 4: since he was he was successful running the ball all night.
Speaker 1: I really don't have a problem with the call. The
Speaker 1: only problem that I have is that is it. And
Speaker 1: I know I'm saying the extra because I thought it
Speaker 1: was a great play call. We see this player, we
Speaker 1: see this play a lot where you try to leak
Speaker 1: the tight end out. But the only thing is I
Speaker 1: thought Waller went too quick. And you get that sometimes
Speaker 1: because you know it's only two seconds. We only got
Speaker 1: one cracket. But take your time. Take your time. And
Speaker 1: that's the one thing that John and I would we
Speaker 1: would always discuss in meetings. He's like, they would say, okay, Shannon,
Speaker 1: we want you to go twelve to fourteen, and I
Speaker 1: would ask John, what are you thinking on this route?
Speaker 1: He said, give me twelve, give me twelve in practice,
Speaker 1: because I know you're gonna speed it up in the game.
Speaker 1: So now I'm telling I'm telling Darren Waller, hey a
Speaker 1: one count, give me a two count, because I know
Speaker 1: you're gonna speed it up.
Speaker 2: In the games.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing if I could give him any advice.
Speaker 1: You got more time than you think. But I thought
Speaker 1: I thought the Giants played well. I thought wing Martin
Speaker 1: Deade did a great job of confusing, Josh Allen doing
Speaker 1: a great job of disguising things. I thought they played well.
Speaker 1: They played well enough to win that game. Todd rod
Speaker 1: Taylor did not embarrass himself. Having sat Kwan back obviously
Speaker 1: helped the offense. Darius Slayton made some big time catchers.
Speaker 1: A lot of guys made big time catchers. Jaylen Hyatt
Speaker 1: made a big time catch. But I think sometimes we
Speaker 1: sell this today we saw the bill struggle. We're talking
Speaker 1: about the Eagles, they the forty nine ers. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: look at an opponent, especially when you're five and zero
Speaker 1: right and they're struggling. You look at them and they're
Speaker 1: without their best player, they without Deshaun on offense, or
Speaker 1: they're without the best all pro running back Nick Chubb,
Speaker 1: and you look at them, or you look at the
Speaker 1: jest and that well they don't have Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 1: there was without some there, without Assauce. I don't think
Speaker 1: Safs played today. So and you look at that old
Speaker 1: shoe and you're like, we got them in the bag.
Speaker 2: But I'll get it. I'll give Mike Shanahan a lot
Speaker 2: of credit.
Speaker 1: Because he and Gary Kubiak, who's the off asive coordinator,
Speaker 1: they would show us even if a team was bad,
Speaker 1: he says, see, and they would show us great plays
Speaker 1: that the defense had made.
Speaker 2: He said.
Speaker 1: The only problem is they're just not consistent. He said,
Speaker 1: don't let them get consistent against us today. And so
Speaker 1: that's what you have to reinforce is that, hey, this
Speaker 1: is a good telly.
Speaker 2: I understand they they've lost the game, they're two and
Speaker 2: two or they were.
Speaker 1: Just BA, but don't let them put that consistency together
Speaker 1: against us and plug The Giants finished all five in
Speaker 1: the red zone.
Speaker 2: You see, you lose game by kicking field goals.
Speaker 1: You win in games impossible championships by scoring touchdown.
Speaker 5: I'm glad you just said that.
Speaker 4: So, now that you see the way the Giants have
Speaker 4: played opposed opposed to how they looked against everybody else,
Speaker 4: do you think a quarterback change necessary? Being that they
Speaker 4: had such a such a great opportunity to win today's game,
Speaker 4: and they played well and ty Tyrod Taylor did things
Speaker 4: that he needed to do to make sure he didn't
Speaker 4: lose lose the game for the team, but gave them
Speaker 4: a chance to then, who would you make a quarterback
Speaker 4: change at this point?
Speaker 2: I would not. Let me tell you why.
Speaker 1: It's easy for the guy to come in for one
Speaker 1: game because there's not a whole lot of film on it.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get some game tape on it. Now we
Speaker 1: got a game to see what they like to do
Speaker 1: with Tyrod. Tyrod did a great job of getting the
Speaker 1: ball out of his hands. He did a great job
Speaker 1: if it's not there taking off a run. He did
Speaker 1: a great job of getting of getting the ball out
Speaker 1: of his hands. I wouldn't make the quarterback change just yet.
Speaker 1: Let's see how it plays out. But he did look good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought the offensive line blocked a little better than
Speaker 1: what they normally have normally do get Daniel Jones Dave
Speaker 1: Jones like, hey, bro, can I get some of that guys?
Speaker 1: I mean, just to look, they got two guys tied
Speaker 1: for giving up the second most sacks and another guy
Speaker 1: the right tackle that's tied for giving up the second
Speaker 1: most pressures.
Speaker 2: It's hard to win. It's hard to play that position.
Speaker 1: When you got two offensive three of your offensive lineman
Speaker 1: are shooting bad right three office of lineman shooting.
Speaker 2: Real band Onshow it's hard to win games like that? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I got it. Let's go.
Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers lose to the Browns nineteen seventeen.
Speaker 1: My take went viral because I said I did not
Speaker 1: believe brock Purty.
Speaker 2: Was it elite?
Speaker 1: And oh Joe, we've got to stop this notion a
Speaker 1: quarterbacks on a team they win, he's elite. We've got
Speaker 1: to stop We normally guys had to put the string
Speaker 1: together some years consistently. Guy had to scring together MVP season. Oh,
Speaker 1: God had to go to Pro Bowl. God had to
Speaker 1: be all Pro. Now, guy have a good two three
Speaker 1: game stretch.
Speaker 2: Oh, he's the elite. It's okay. Look there's thirty two quarterbacks. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's okay.
Speaker 1: You got elite, and you got the middle of the pack,
Speaker 1: and you got guys that are just guys.
Speaker 2: Right, just because you're guy, Just because your guy.
Speaker 1: Is an elite, that doesn't mean he's a bum.
Speaker 2: People were saying, oh, you're trying to say block. I
Speaker 2: didn't say that.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I haven't seen enough to declare him elite.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, you know what's hard to do.
Speaker 4: It's hard to declare him elite based on the supporting
Speaker 4: cast he has around him. He has a superior supporting
Speaker 4: cast around him, your offensive line, your receivers, the running
Speaker 4: back you have. Now, let's say if you were to
Speaker 4: take Rock Perdy and put him in a different position
Speaker 4: and put him in a different, different team where he
Speaker 4: didn't have the repertoire, you know, the arsenal that he
Speaker 4: has over there with the forty nine, will he still
Speaker 4: be to be consistent with his play weekend and week out.
Speaker 4: That lets you know whether your leader or not. I
Speaker 4: think that's that's the way I judge some of the
Speaker 4: top tier quarterbacks. You can take Patrick Mahomes and put
Speaker 4: him anywhere on any of the other thirty one teams,
Speaker 4: and you know what you're gonna get the same thing
Speaker 4: with Josh Allen. They are playmakers that make the players
Speaker 4: around them much better. Now, I'm not sure what brock
Speaker 4: Purty does with the forty nine ers offense, because the
Speaker 4: players that he has surrounding him are just that great.
Speaker 4: These aren't your average dudes. Their top tier dudes at
Speaker 4: every position over there.
Speaker 1: Right, I agree with your party with twelve of twenty seven,
Speaker 1: and he completed forty four percent of his passes one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five yards, one touchdown one of the exceptions.
Speaker 2: And that's all that I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: We saw how he looked when Christian McCaffrey exited the game,
Speaker 1: when Deebo exited the game.
Speaker 2: That's your opportunity, right when, guys.
Speaker 1: Because we saw Patrick Mahomes go win the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: and they took the most dangerous man and put ball
Speaker 1: away from him Tyreek Hill. He went to and under
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. That's what elite in this seels. Tom
Speaker 1: Brady is elite because we see him. No matter who's
Speaker 1: out there on the field, he's gonna be great. He's
Speaker 1: not gonna win every game. But you look at Tom
Speaker 1: Brady and you're like, okay, he's leaked Peyton Manning.
Speaker 2: Is he lead? Right? Rob?
Speaker 1: I mean, look, he's great because he made a play
Speaker 1: or they won a few games.
Speaker 2: It doesn't work.
Speaker 4: Like that, people, But he is very good. In the
Speaker 4: fact that he had to go down to a Jim
Speaker 4: Schwartz defense. That is the real deal. The boys are
Speaker 4: really obviously, Listen, the Browns ain't no pushover regardless of
Speaker 4: what that what Johnson, what the record may show.
Speaker 2: Let mess your quest.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, when we ever said it win a elite
Speaker 1: quarterback ever worried about the defense he was going up against.
Speaker 2: Oh you see what you just did? That that told
Speaker 2: you right now what you're doing.
Speaker 1: You never said that about Tom Brady, that about Peyton Man.
Speaker 1: You never said that a back Patrick Mahone. It doesn't
Speaker 1: matter because elite, Hey, you the best. If I'm the
Speaker 1: best picture of the Major League, I want to face
Speaker 1: the best hitters. I don't say, well, he got some
Speaker 1: good stuff, but he definitely don't want to play. Don't
Speaker 1: want to face show Heatani. You don't want to face
Speaker 1: Aaron Judge or Mike Trout. No, And so look, I thought, uh,
Speaker 1: that unnecessarily roughness penalty on the receipt. I don't know
Speaker 1: about that on Joe now unless they said he launched himself.
Speaker 1: And I don't think he launched himself because it was
Speaker 1: just I mean, he turned, he got it.
Speaker 2: He got it.
Speaker 1: He didn't hit him in his head, he didn't hit
Speaker 1: him in his neck area. He just and I know
Speaker 1: it's a bang bang play, but every big hit is
Speaker 1: not unnecessary roughness.
Speaker 2: Damn, it's football.
Speaker 4: I think I understand that the call itself unnecessary roughness,
Speaker 4: pass interference, every other call. It's just too much inconsistency
Speaker 4: in it. It's too much inconsistency in it, and it's costing.
Speaker 4: It's costing people games, it's costing people money. Obviously on
Speaker 4: the back end. I understand what the NFL is trying
Speaker 4: to do, trying to protect the players, but it's getting
Speaker 4: to a point where it's so inconsistent at times where
Speaker 4: the call isn't even a call, where the game of
Speaker 4: football is not even the game of football.
Speaker 5: To this point, and it's it's it's it's ruining games.
Speaker 4: It's costing teams games, and it could hurt you on
Speaker 4: the back end, you know, when you lose a game
Speaker 4: that you that that you need, they don't because of
Speaker 4: a call that really shouldn't have been called.
Speaker 5: And it's happening too much in today's game.
Speaker 1: What it's allowed people to do, what has allowed u
Speaker 1: things to happen, is is that guys who with a
Speaker 1: lot less courage is able to play this game because
Speaker 1: they've taken the physicality out of it, because they've taken
Speaker 1: the intimidation out of it.
Speaker 2: Way.
Speaker 1: Because all these until I started leaving the game. I
Speaker 1: ain't never heard of. No three steps, no three step
Speaker 1: slant round, a free step slant route. And you got
Speaker 1: Ray Lewis, or you have Singletary, or you had like
Speaker 1: John Offer Dog. They don't want to split your domes man,
Speaker 1: Hey you got that? No, No, it's like a different hits.
Speaker 1: The receiver I never heard of. I never heard the
Speaker 1: fenseless thing like bro, you got to help and the
Speaker 1: shoulder pass. How yousics they see you out there naked.
Speaker 5: Listen.
Speaker 4: It's a different ball game. Today's game. It is a
Speaker 4: shi today game is extremely different. I don't think how
Speaker 4: I don't think they understand how good they have it.
Speaker 4: I think about the two thousands. I think about the
Speaker 4: two thousands with your Ray Lewis, is your air reach,
Speaker 4: Detroy Polamalo's Steve Atwater, Donovan Darius Off that, Bob Saander's,
Speaker 4: Sean Taylor, the people where it made you think twice.
Speaker 4: You know you got to across the middle, but you're
Speaker 4: thinking twice before you got to as soon as you
Speaker 4: when you're coming off the line and you trying to
Speaker 4: see where they are before you make your cut, so
Speaker 4: you know when to brace h you know when to
Speaker 4: get down and make that business decision.
Speaker 5: Yo, it was different.
Speaker 2: It was different.
Speaker 5: It wasn't no pretty one hand catches one, no pretty
Speaker 5: one the middle.
Speaker 1: You oh, you want a profile, you might do it.
Speaker 1: You might do I'll tell you what you might do it.
Speaker 1: You might do it in the first quarter, but I
Speaker 1: guarantee you would never do it again. I mean in
Speaker 1: the nineties, think about we had Mark Carrier, we had
Speaker 1: Rodney Harrison, we had Ronnie Lott, we had Steve Adwater,
Speaker 1: we had Eddie Anderson, we had Joy Browner. Eddie Anderson
Speaker 1: hit a dude so hard and then he w w
Speaker 1: E he counted him out one, two, three. That's what
Speaker 1: guys would do with Yeah. We I mean those safeties
Speaker 1: back there, they were big safety. They're not these moves safety.
Speaker 1: They wasn't a worried about no coverage. They were coming
Speaker 1: down hill, they were playing tell how safety and they
Speaker 1: dare you.
Speaker 2: They dare your runner over. Yeah, they dare your runner.
Speaker 4: Fark what listen, if you don't catch the ball, they're
Speaker 4: gonna leave you with something to take back to the huddle.
Speaker 2: Because that's all you wanted to do.
Speaker 1: Because football in it's it's it's in, it's true in
Speaker 1: its first form was about intimidation. Yeah, it's about intimidation.
Speaker 1: Oh you caught that one the first one. But come
Speaker 1: third quarter, like, oh oh you got gay. Now nobody
Speaker 1: got gate arm. Everybody extended. Everybody want to chant you
Speaker 1: with one hand. Oh, everybody want to do a selfie.
Speaker 1: Everybody do a selfie? Catches Now, yeah, it's different. I
Speaker 1: mean across the middle in the quarterback they put it
Speaker 1: in your number.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I ain't won't that one. I ain't won't that one.
Speaker 2: Were getting the next one.
Speaker 4: But listen like like like they did say, man is
Speaker 4: to protect, it's to protect the players.
Speaker 5: It is for safety.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 5: But the game, the game has changed. It's not the
Speaker 5: same anymore.
Speaker 1: It is. But let's not take away from the fact
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers got beat by PJ.
Speaker 2: Walker.
Speaker 1: Now we can dress all this up, we can say this,
Speaker 1: We can say that that wasn't Patrick Mahomes on the
Speaker 1: other side, right, that wasn't one of these these these
Speaker 1: top flight quarterbacks on That was a journeyman quarterback. That's
Speaker 1: been on how many teams seven, eight, nine, ten, thirteen
Speaker 1: he's been on He's he's been on a host of
Speaker 1: different teams. Right, Oh my bad. That's Josh Johnson's been
Speaker 1: on all those teams. But he's been on teams, he's played,
Speaker 1: he's played in a lot of different league.
Speaker 2: Bro, that's who beat you. Yeah.
Speaker 5: But also you can't you can't discredit the defense. What
Speaker 5: the defense is able to do.
Speaker 4: You gotta understand now, the Brown defense they ring, they
Speaker 4: bring fourth in the league. They don't allow nothing but
Speaker 4: fifteen points. Fifteen points a game, right, fifteen points a game.
Speaker 4: I don't know what Jim Schorts is over there feeding
Speaker 4: them young fellas man, especially the secondary that god damn
Speaker 4: Denzel ward Man.
Speaker 1: Man, We'll see what they can do. When you can pressure,
Speaker 1: you can do a lot of things in the secondary.
Speaker 1: You can ask a lot of things. And Jim Schwartz
Speaker 1: is a pressure guy. He's gonna come now. He has
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett on one side, so they can bring They
Speaker 1: can generate pressure with a four. But Schwartz likes to
Speaker 1: bring pressure. He has no problem bringing pressure. And so
Speaker 1: in a situation like that, when you got a defense
Speaker 1: like like what the forty nine ers are, the last
Speaker 1: thing your quarterback can do is.
Speaker 2: Turn the ball all over. Yeah.
Speaker 1: See, that's what got him in trouble is that when
Speaker 1: he turned the ball over and he gave him life. Right,
Speaker 1: So you now, all of a sudden you put that
Speaker 1: defen Hey, punt the ball. Hey, let's say, as long
Speaker 1: as we don't turn it over, they can't beat them.
Speaker 1: We make them make the mistakes, not us. Because here's
Speaker 1: the thing, oh Joe, and you know this very well.
Speaker 1: When you are a better team and you turn the
Speaker 1: ball over, one or two things happen. Either you go
Speaker 1: down to the level of the competition you play it,
Speaker 1: or you bring them up to your level. One of
Speaker 1: the two is gonna happen when you turn the ball over.
Speaker 1: And that's what we saw today.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, I got another question for you real quick,
Speaker 4: because you understand the landscape a little better than me.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure the casual fan will understand what I'm asking,
Speaker 4: but I'm gonna ask you anyway, because you had the expertise.
Speaker 4: Do you think the Browns personnel, even with Debo and
Speaker 4: CMC going out, do you think the Browns personnel is
Speaker 4: fared much better than other teams to play against the
Speaker 4: forty nine ers as just like the Bills versus the Dolphins,
Speaker 4: the defense the personnel is better suited to play against
Speaker 4: the Dolphins, the same way the Browns were against the Eagles.
Speaker 4: See you think that comes into play a little bit.
Speaker 2: Just it. It does, But he didn't have it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Right, get I get you
Speaker 1: got a person that can, that can, that can, that
Speaker 1: can pressure your quarterback.
Speaker 2: First of all, they neutralize the run.
Speaker 1: They shut Christian McCaffrey off before he went out of
Speaker 1: the ball game.
Speaker 2: So now we shut the run off.
Speaker 1: Now we know you got to throw the football and
Speaker 1: we can pressure you. And so now what I debo?
Speaker 1: Now what I Christian McCaffrey. Now we've taken two of
Speaker 1: your most dangerous threats away. So now, really, who am
Speaker 1: I worried about worried about Kittle? I'm worried about you.
Speaker 1: I take I take, I take densel Ward.
Speaker 2: You got you.
Speaker 1: And now if I need to, I can roll. I
Speaker 1: can bracket kit vice or vice versus or vice versus.
Speaker 1: So that's that's what they were able to do because
Speaker 1: they they can away a lot.
Speaker 2: Uh uh.
Speaker 1: You take away see Matt, and you're taking away debo.
Speaker 1: Eagles go to the lose to the Jets, and Ojo,
Speaker 1: I've been telling you a lot of times. People are
Speaker 1: just concerned about the destination and they don't look think
Speaker 1: about the journey. I'm something like a meteorologist because I'm
Speaker 1: trying to predict because I'm seeing things now. I told y'all,
Speaker 1: I said, the whole year, I said, Jalen Hurts hasn't
Speaker 1: played well. They're winning.
Speaker 2: They're winning. They're winning.
Speaker 1: They're winning, I said, but winning masks a lot of things.
Speaker 1: I said, the worst, the worst thing you can do
Speaker 1: is win because of you. But we won, and I
Speaker 1: had to get out of that mindset. And again thanks
Speaker 1: to Mike Shanahan, because I remember I have one hundred
Speaker 1: first game nineteen ninety five Oho, we played the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 2: I had ten for one eighty open tonight.
Speaker 1: At the time, it was like the fourth or field
Speaker 1: best opening eight receiving game in history. And Steve Antonopolis,
Speaker 1: who the athletic trainer, came and tapped me on the
Speaker 1: shower the meeting and said, might want to see me
Speaker 1: so I fight. You know, hey, Mike, you know because
Speaker 1: I've had missed I had offseason surgery. I didn't get
Speaker 1: a chance to really do a whole lot in training camp.
Speaker 1: I like Mike was going it might go praise me
Speaker 1: because he had been riding me pretty hard because I
Speaker 1: wasn't in OTA's.
Speaker 2: I couldn't practice because I had surgery. He said, what's up?
Speaker 2: Eighty four? I said, hey, by how you doing you?
Speaker 2: I got somebody said, yeah, you know back, but give
Speaker 2: me some love.
Speaker 1: Hey, I was offensive play of the game, So you
Speaker 1: know I will get that love, right, I sit down,
Speaker 1: he said. He cut the tape on miss block O. Lord,
Speaker 1: not not a not getting in and out of my break?
Speaker 1: Say for He said, for it. That's not good enough,
Speaker 1: he said. He said, I'll never accept.
Speaker 2: Anything in a win. I wouldn't have a lost.
Speaker 1: Think about what I just said, Oh yoll he said,
Speaker 1: I will never accept anything in a win. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have a lost. Had we lost that game, that effort
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been good enough. And if it's not good
Speaker 1: enough in a loss, it's not.
Speaker 2: Good enough in a win like that.
Speaker 1: That was nineteen ninety five, and I never forgot those words.
Speaker 1: I told y'all Jalen Hurst wasn't playing well, but because
Speaker 1: if he was winning, y'all let it skape. The man
Speaker 1: has more interceptions this year in six games than he
Speaker 1: had all of last year in seventeen. But now every
Speaker 1: time I try to tell you something, O Jo, we
Speaker 1: when you and I talk, you have.
Speaker 2: A level of expertise. I have a level of expertise.
Speaker 1: Yes, I try. I try to the viewer, the listener.
Speaker 1: What I try to do is says, look, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: Through fourteen years and a lot of meetings and being
Speaker 1: around a lot of great minds, these are some mind
Speaker 1: fields that I see with my eye because when I
Speaker 1: watch the game, Oh Joe, I'm not seeing that. I
Speaker 1: don't care that they scored. I don't get excited when
Speaker 1: a team scored. I don't I need to know why. Okay,
Speaker 1: what did you do? What was the formation? Okay, what
Speaker 1: was the defense in? And so now I can analyze. Okay,
Speaker 1: this guy made a mistake. No, he made a mistake.
Speaker 1: He was supposed to be here. He was supposed to
Speaker 1: be there. And I've been trying to tell people. I say, guys,
Speaker 1: the record, I understand winning, winning, winning, but there are
Speaker 1: some mind fields that you're gonna get, You're gonna get
Speaker 1: blown up on on if you're not careful. And lo
Speaker 1: and behold it happened today twenty eight to forty five,
Speaker 1: two eighty one touchdown, three interceptions just for defense force
Speaker 1: four turnovers, had a couple of other interceptions that they dropped.
Speaker 2: Right, what did you see? What was? What was? What
Speaker 2: was one of the main takeaways that you took from
Speaker 2: this game?
Speaker 4: Well, what I took away from the game was obviously
Speaker 4: the defense Jalen Hurst didn't play well. At some point
Speaker 4: you're going to get a game like this and you
Speaker 4: say he hasn't been playing well. To your saying that,
Speaker 4: the standard that we hold of Jalen Hurst that went
Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl and just not not long ago,
Speaker 4: we hold him to a higher standard with him being
Speaker 4: one of the best. Obviously him getting a big, big deal,
Speaker 4: big big contract, all this, so a lot comes with that,
Speaker 4: a lot comes out. So, yes, they they've been able
Speaker 4: to mask some of the things that haven't been going
Speaker 4: well with him because they are winning, because you know,
Speaker 4: winn he cures everything. But yes, on the inside, some
Speaker 4: of the things that we can see as former players
Speaker 4: that have played the game, we can see the small
Speaker 4: holes or the small discrepant sees that will creep up
Speaker 4: on you and bite you and you know what, it happens.
Speaker 5: It happened tonight.
Speaker 4: The turnovers, obviously, if you were the betman, if he
Speaker 4: was a gambling man, anybody's gambling or betman.
Speaker 5: I'm sure they probably had the Eagles to win because
Speaker 5: they were playing the Jets.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm sure everybody lost some money.
Speaker 5: Everybody probably lost some money. Yes, But again, you know
Speaker 5: it needs to be fixed.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't need to go into in the
Speaker 4: detail on what it is, but you know it needs
Speaker 4: needs to be done.
Speaker 1: What the thing is is that when you play a
Speaker 1: team like the Jets, the little challenge offensively defensively is
Speaker 1: very very good. They pride themselves on taking the ball away.
Speaker 1: So in that mindset, don't turn it over, don't give
Speaker 1: them short feels, don't allow their crowd to get into
Speaker 1: the game, make them beat us, make them drive the football.
Speaker 1: Everything that I'm sure they talked about, they did the opposite.
Speaker 1: What did they do turned the ball up? What else
Speaker 1: did they do? Allow the team to get into it?
Speaker 1: And so you that now all of Zach Wilson has
Speaker 1: to do is now I don't have to. As long
Speaker 1: as I don't turn the ball over a give you
Speaker 1: scooping scores, we're gonna be fine.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what's his name?
Speaker 2: What's his name again, Zach Wilson.
Speaker 4: Yeah, make sure you say a loud and proud to baby,
Speaker 4: Zach Wilson.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. If they look.
Speaker 5: Nothing, you can say nothing.
Speaker 2: They won the game. They they won the game. Defense
Speaker 2: was no, no, no.
Speaker 4: We're not We're not gonna do that. Zach Wilson. Beat
Speaker 4: the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 5: That's what we're gonna say. Say it with me, say
Speaker 5: with me, say please with me.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 1: Beat the Philadelphias in Buffalo game, the defense created four turnovers.
Speaker 1: In today's game, the defense created four turnovers and hold
Speaker 1: On against hold On against the Broncos, they created three turnovers.
Speaker 2: Is that what we're doing? So I just heard you.
Speaker 5: I just heard you say. Not long ago.
Speaker 4: P Walker beat the Savrancisco forty nine ers. Yes, okay, yes,
Speaker 4: So I need you to say it. I said with me. Please,
Speaker 4: don't say it with me. Don't fight me, just said
Speaker 4: Zach Wilson. Just say it with you, please, Zach Jack Wilson.
Speaker 4: Zack Wilson played well, he did put the ball. But
Speaker 4: what did I tell you?
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this now, this is the
Speaker 1: same argument I've been using against the Cowboys. What happens
Speaker 1: when they don't get four turnovers? What happens when they
Speaker 1: don't create short fields? Now, what have we seen? That's
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. Zach Wilson played well today. And when
Speaker 1: you're a better team, I think, from top to bottom,
Speaker 1: I think the Eagles are better team than the Jets.
Speaker 1: But when you turn it over, either you go down
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Speaker 4: I like what Zach Wilson is doing. I hear what
Speaker 4: you're saying. But Zach Wilson is getting more and more
Speaker 4: comfortable week in and week out. What is being asked
Speaker 4: of Zach?
Speaker 2: Zach?
Speaker 4: We don't need you to be. We don't need you
Speaker 4: to be Aaron Rodgers to be. We don't need you
Speaker 4: to be Patrick Mahomes. We just need do to be
Speaker 4: efficient and dourn't turn the ball over today. Correct, It
Speaker 4: wasn't a huge game for him, nineteen to thirty three
Speaker 4: eighty six yards, but he's outplayed two of the best
Speaker 4: in the game. He's outplayed Hurts and they hadn't beat
Speaker 4: the Eagles what they were owing they were twelve.
Speaker 2: He's beat my homes and he be he didn't be home.
Speaker 2: What No, he didn't beat my homes. They lost, but
Speaker 2: he got played.
Speaker 4: You said I played I'll played okay, My bad, my bad, BD.
Speaker 4: That's that's that's why I was trying to go, I'm sorry, sorry,
Speaker 4: I sorry for mixed up.
Speaker 5: My bad, my bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And because because because he didn't, because the Eagles turned
Speaker 1: the ball over so many times, it neutralized them stopping
Speaker 1: the Jets in the red zone.
Speaker 2: The Jets went one for four in the red zone.
Speaker 1: And I'm not so sure that last touchdown Bill allowed
Speaker 1: him to score because they needed the ball back back
Speaker 1: with more time on the clock, right, But I'm not
Speaker 1: so sure because they didn't want to want them to
Speaker 1: bleed the clock and then kick a field goal and
Speaker 1: leave minimum time.
Speaker 2: Consentering.
Speaker 1: See, the thing is anything can happen, Anything can happen.
Speaker 2: We Seattle Seahawks have taught us nothing.
Speaker 1: You don't conceived that you don't see touchdownsand situations like that.
Speaker 2: But I thought the Jets, I thought the Jets played well.
Speaker 1: I thought the game was about to get away from them,
Speaker 1: and they make they created a big turnover, and so
Speaker 1: kudos to the Jets. Uh that defense is a Jet
Speaker 1: and they did that without Sauce and some of the
Speaker 1: other key contributed on the deferent side of the football.
Speaker 1: So right now, if you had to rank, give me
Speaker 1: your top three teams in the.
Speaker 5: NFC, top three teams in the NFC.
Speaker 1: Yes, Stilly, No no no, no, no, no, no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: San Francis.
Speaker 5: San Francisco.
Speaker 2: Still I still got de nighted of me.
Speaker 5: Let me, let me stop playing around now, because San Francisco, Philly.
Speaker 2: Is it is it?
Speaker 5: Can I put the Cowboys third? Should I put the Cowboy?
Speaker 1: But I'm a surprise you with my second team.
Speaker 2: I got the Lions. Oh, I got the Lion.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I got the Lions third. Then the Cowboys. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: got the third in the Cowboys, I got forty nine Ers, Lions, Eagles. Whoa,
Speaker 4: that's my top three?
Speaker 5: Whoa, whoa? You got the Lion second.
Speaker 1: I got the Lion second. They've been impressing the very
Speaker 1: very impressive. I mean they went on the road and
Speaker 1: beat a and beat a hot team in Tampa. And
Speaker 1: Temple is playing well. I'm not saying TAMPAA world beaters,
Speaker 1: but they have been playing well very early in the season.
Speaker 1: So that's you know what, oh Joe, Really, that's all
Speaker 1: we can base it on.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Look, now, it might be a situation that we look
Speaker 1: down the road and this game don't mean anything because
Speaker 1: one team is four and thirteen and the other team
Speaker 1: is five and five and twelve, and we say, hell,
Speaker 1: that win didn't mean nothing because they were terrible anyway.
Speaker 1: But at this junk sure Temple had been playing well,
Speaker 1: and they went on the road and held them the
Speaker 1: two and held them the two field goal. Uh, they
Speaker 1: went on the road Kansas City in the job. Jared
Speaker 1: Goff is playing extremely, extremely well. At some point in time,
Speaker 1: we might have to get Jered Goff from Love for
Speaker 1: the m v P. Yeah, you know, if I'm gonna
Speaker 1: sleep on it, and if I wake up in the
Speaker 1: morning and God spare he I'm in my right mind,
Speaker 1: God and say go on and put him in the
Speaker 1: m v P discussion, I'm gonna have to do that.
Speaker 2: Definitely. Yeah. Did you see Tyreek celebration? I love it,
Speaker 2: I love it, I love it. That was.
Speaker 5: That was legendary. Yes, that was that was legendary.
Speaker 4: That's that's that's up there with one of the one
Speaker 4: of the best ever.
Speaker 1: Easy the man, hold on, check this out. Now, you
Speaker 1: know the NFL is gonna.
Speaker 2: Find it, right.
Speaker 5: I paid, I don't care.
Speaker 2: I paid. Oh yo.
Speaker 1: But you know the guy, you know, the guy that
Speaker 1: phoned that he used, Yeah, he works for the NFL.
Speaker 2: That's fine, the NF NFL. Hold on, check this out.
Speaker 1: The NFL had put it up on all of their
Speaker 1: platform right, and then they deleted it because how you
Speaker 1: gonna find How you gonna find a man that y'all
Speaker 1: promoting and y'all talk about YadA YadA YadA, but you
Speaker 1: turn it right and find it.
Speaker 2: So they deleted it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, this is an entertainment business. This is what
Speaker 4: the NFL needs to have a better understand. Obviously, during
Speaker 4: my day, myself too, Steve Smith and some others, we
Speaker 4: were having.
Speaker 5: A little too much fun.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 4: All of a sudden, then the NFL realized, wait a minute,
Speaker 4: this is good for the game, the entertainment value of
Speaker 4: the game, drawing more eyes, making.
Speaker 5: It more valuable for those that are watching.
Speaker 4: Allowing people to want to see and come and see
Speaker 4: the game, to see certain players like Tyreek Hill do
Speaker 4: stuff like this. What's gonna happen when he scores? You
Speaker 4: never know, you never know what's gonna happen. And the
Speaker 4: funny thing, this is the one thing I want to
Speaker 4: say about fines This is one thing I want to
Speaker 4: say about finding Tyreek made a comment said, I don't
Speaker 4: play this game for the money. I play it for fun.
Speaker 4: And this is what the beauty of that is. And
Speaker 4: I need people to understand this. They find you obviously
Speaker 4: because they feel, well, there's only one way to keep
Speaker 4: these NFL players in line, and that is take what
Speaker 4: they think we value most, and that's your money for
Speaker 4: a game that were supposed to play and have fun
Speaker 4: and entertained. When they when taking the money doesn't work,
Speaker 4: that means they have no control over you and the
Speaker 4: way you play. That is so beautiful, so beautiful that
Speaker 4: Tybreek said what he said today, and I hope he
Speaker 4: keeps on doing it.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, oh Joe, when they want you
Speaker 1: to stop at what they do that make it so
Speaker 1: cost prohibitive, you have no choice but to stop because
Speaker 1: what they do, they'll find your seventy five hundred and
Speaker 1: they say every fine that comes after that, we're going
Speaker 1: to double it. So now it goes to fifteen, then
Speaker 1: it goes to thirty, then it goes to sixty, and
Speaker 1: now you're doing a celebration. They cost you five hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, your agent and your management team will say,
Speaker 1: don't do that.
Speaker 4: You know, I think I think the Dolphins, the Dolphins
Speaker 4: front office just step in at that point. I think
Speaker 4: the Dolphins on front office step in at that point.
Speaker 4: Matter of fact, get to the point where tyrk we
Speaker 4: know what he should do. By the time I got
Speaker 4: to year seven. This is why Roger Godella and I
Speaker 4: have such a good relationship now, because I wasn't following
Speaker 4: no rules. I was finna have me some fun. We
Speaker 4: got about year seven and and I knew I had
Speaker 4: something coming up for that game. I was mailing a
Speaker 4: check in to the league office on Wednesday ahead of
Speaker 4: time before the game. And I know that really pissed
Speaker 4: him off. I know that pissed him off. Man, enjoy
Speaker 4: the game. Have fun, man. There's a very small win
Speaker 4: of opportunity to do what you do, and that's playing
Speaker 4: the game that you love that you worked your ass
Speaker 4: off to get to, obviously, to play at the pinnacle
Speaker 4: of your childhood dream.
Speaker 5: Do it just like this and have fun. Man.
Speaker 4: That that right there would never ever ever be forgotten.
Speaker 5: That is cemented.
Speaker 2: That was dope. Man.
Speaker 1: If you remember Joe Horn when he went and pulled
Speaker 1: out the cell phone.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: He First of all, I did it. I did a
Speaker 1: celebration the week before, but I didn't actually have a phone. Right,
Speaker 1: I caught a three. I had a three touchdown game
Speaker 1: against the Chargers. Yes, and I went to the I
Speaker 1: went to the gold post and picked the phone, pretend
Speaker 1: like I was calling my granny right right, I got it, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: gret I got another one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all got that three up all the day. And
Speaker 2: I hung the phone up.
Speaker 1: Don't went and got an actual phone and putting out
Speaker 1: in the gold post. He's like, I know, amal scoring
Speaker 1: this here? Just just for safe, keep it and pull
Speaker 1: the phone out. The problem is, Oho, you know what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Somebody go order us door dash. Somebody order
Speaker 1: That's fine, and listen who order Uber? When I was
Speaker 1: playing right now, I order to be an uber. I said, look,
Speaker 1: come through the stadium, Hey, go through, go through the
Speaker 1: barriers and.
Speaker 2: Come pick me up on the field. Listen, I want
Speaker 2: a black car.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm extremely creative. I'm just thinking about it.
Speaker 4: If I would have scored. You know how they have
Speaker 4: the team celebrations, you know the team you know everybody
Speaker 4: be doing stuff together. I would probably pull a fan.
Speaker 4: It would have to be fast. I would have probably
Speaker 4: have a fan come down and we do something together. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that would that would be That would be something that
Speaker 4: I would that dog the celebrations or did you see
Speaker 4: to remember the Titans from the Bengals, Yes, the Bengals
Speaker 4: did that?
Speaker 2: Remember the Titans?
Speaker 1: Things?
Speaker 4: Thought that, It's like, it's beautiful for the game. I
Speaker 4: just hope the NFL doesn't mess it up and realize it,
Speaker 4: realize what it does for the fans and people like myself.
Speaker 4: Like I played the game and I'm excited. Look how
Speaker 4: I'm talking. I'm hyped up.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm thinking on you. I wish I
Speaker 1: could just I wish my legs like when I was young.
Speaker 1: It was thinking about it. Had you know, I could
Speaker 1: have jumped up there and pulled myself up on the
Speaker 1: gold posts and I'd have been sitting up on the
Speaker 1: gold post.
Speaker 5: You ain't got that kind of strength.
Speaker 2: Post with the peace side.
Speaker 5: Hey, listen, you know how that gold post high as hell? Man?
Speaker 1: He it is high with the pants on to you. Hey,
Speaker 1: that got to be early. That got to be early. Now,
Speaker 1: Paul was cool. He wouldn't snap them fines on your
Speaker 1: cap quite like Roger would.
Speaker 5: Now, see, Roger had to come in with an iron fist.
Speaker 4: He had to come set the tone when he first
Speaker 4: came in, and he did just that, and I said,
Speaker 4: we know what, we're finna go at it.
Speaker 5: We're gonna go I'm not.
Speaker 1: Starting Paul and gen I had Jean Paul and Jean Washing.
Speaker 1: It was a little bit more. They were like they
Speaker 1: were like, okay, okay, okay, right right, and listen.
Speaker 2: When y'all came along with Roger, I don't know who
Speaker 2: Rogers and Murton Hanks.
Speaker 5: That's fine.
Speaker 2: That would iron fists.
Speaker 5: That's fine.
Speaker 1: Look the Dolphins, Uh, Tyreek eight hundred and fourteen yards
Speaker 1: and what five and six games?
Speaker 2: Crazy?
Speaker 1: I'm crazy, dude plays for like twenty five dred receiver yards.
Speaker 1: I just don't know. Why would you bring why would
Speaker 1: you bring pressure? Played Tyreek in a bump position, you know,
Speaker 1: the ball.
Speaker 2: Going up to Tyreek.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what that was Dante, not Dante Dante. Ah,
Speaker 4: I got right right right, slipping my mind. It wasn't
Speaker 4: wasn't it wasn't quarters on that play, wasn't it was
Speaker 4: it pressure? So they had no choice. The safety had
Speaker 4: to come down and you need to get the tight end.
Speaker 2: I would play off.
Speaker 5: You would, Yes, you can't. That's not the way the
Speaker 5: defense works.
Speaker 2: You can't. You can't.
Speaker 4: You can't change up. If you're bringing pressure, you got it.
Speaker 4: You gotta play up. And if you don't play up,
Speaker 4: they're gonna throw it to him quick and then what
Speaker 4: he gonna shake you?
Speaker 1: Hey? I was hey, I try to shout it, but oh,
Speaker 1: your hair is the thing. If you come up, if
Speaker 1: you open the door, flies to come in your house.
Speaker 1: He opened the door for tyree.
Speaker 2: Now what's that? Now, what's the likelihood?
Speaker 1: Okay, you three yards in front of him, you don't
Speaker 1: get the jam on him and you open the door.
Speaker 2: In two steps he's in front of you.
Speaker 1: Not what it's erect and literally in two steps. But
Speaker 1: there's really nothing you can do and nothing you can do.
Speaker 4: And obviously, if you're gonna play press, you got to
Speaker 4: at least try to get an.
Speaker 2: You got to.
Speaker 5: You got to.
Speaker 4: And if you if you're gonna strike up the band,
Speaker 4: you know what you just do. Pick a side and
Speaker 4: just be aggressive. Pick a side, pick aside and be aggressive.
Speaker 4: Most of the time, he releases outside anyway. So just listen,
Speaker 4: play a half a man outside, do something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't let if anything on Joe because I
Speaker 1: understand because the general rule of thumb is that in
Speaker 1: in the if you go, if you come with the
Speaker 1: blitz anything any kind of pressure, you don't want to
Speaker 1: let him inside because that's the easy that's the easier throw.
Speaker 4: But that's not fair. You gotta change the rule based
Speaker 4: on him. Tyreek is special. He's in the category of
Speaker 4: his own. He's in the category of his own, especially
Speaker 4: when it comes to man the man or anything of
Speaker 4: that nature. And if you play off, it's a picky
Speaker 4: poison situation because if you bring a pressure and you
Speaker 4: play off, he gonna catch some short listen, take one
Speaker 4: move it, take one move, any going and then here, Yeah,
Speaker 4: if you press, it's the same thing.
Speaker 5: It's the same thing.
Speaker 1: When I remember earlier this year they said, I said
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill is the most dangerous player.
Speaker 2: Regardless of position.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about offensive player, I'm talking about line back
Speaker 1: on talk about nobody strikes fear like this man, because
Speaker 1: like you said, he can take a five yard route.
Speaker 2: They're very few wide receivers that.
Speaker 1: Can take a five yard route and turn into an
Speaker 1: eighty yard spectacular or as we say, hit his head
Speaker 1: on the goal. Yeah he can do it. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: can do it from.
Speaker 4: Any anywhere on the field, anywhere the most dangerous. And
Speaker 4: that's including Aaron Donald, That's including Patrick Mahomes, that.
Speaker 1: Warner, Bobby who you name somebody.
Speaker 2: Nobody strikes more fear than this guy.
Speaker 4: This is one of the reasons when they always ask me, well,
Speaker 4: name your top five receivers.
Speaker 5: He's in a He's in the category of his own
Speaker 5: He's his own entity. Is he's his own special player?
Speaker 4: Yes, he just something else like when you know when
Speaker 4: they talk about me, you know how they talk about Messi.
Speaker 4: All right, I'm not trying to say he's messy. You know,
Speaker 4: for those that are watching, I'm just giving an analogy.
Speaker 4: Messi is as God given, like there's nothing that will
Speaker 4: never be anything like that. When I talk about Tyreek Hill,
Speaker 4: I put him in the conversation with Messi as in,
Speaker 4: you see some of the stuff he does on the field, Ye,
Speaker 4: it's like that's that's God given. Obviously with the work
Speaker 4: that he's also put in, it's he's crazy.
Speaker 1: He's when he first got into the league. Oh Joe
Speaker 1: he was a gadget guy. He was mainly a punk
Speaker 1: kick returner. They bring him in on third down, they
Speaker 1: flip it to him, but he put time in. He
Speaker 1: taught himself how to run the route treat. He's extremely
Speaker 1: dangerous because he can run every route on the tree.
Speaker 2: Everything if and with that kind of speed, We've never
Speaker 2: seen a guy.
Speaker 1: He's a he has track speed, but he's built like
Speaker 1: a football ball player. Most guys that have track speeds
Speaker 1: all they built like track guys.
Speaker 2: They frail.
Speaker 1: If you I don't know how many people have actually
Speaker 1: seen Tyreek in person, but if you see him, he's
Speaker 1: he's he's compact, he's one five and he's solid. He's
Speaker 1: solid as f So he's not like a typical like
Speaker 1: James Jed and Willie gall all the guy and Sam
Speaker 1: Graddy and I know, I'm going back to guys. But
Speaker 1: guys that normally that can run like he can run,
Speaker 1: they were freely built.
Speaker 2: He's exploded.
Speaker 1: Any guy that can turn that can stand flat for
Speaker 1: in turn of black flip black backflip is explosive. That
Speaker 1: lets you know, O, Joe, see that's what that's you
Speaker 1: see guy's vertical jump and broad jump that's explosive power.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you see the way he moves, he's I've never
Speaker 2: seen a guy eat up percushion like he can.
Speaker 4: And you know, the funny thing about it is not
Speaker 4: only is he explosive, not only is he fast, but
Speaker 4: he's right now fast.
Speaker 5: It's a difference.
Speaker 4: There are people that fast, but they get go, they
Speaker 4: get going like he right now.
Speaker 1: He instant, I mean right, Some guys have to build
Speaker 1: up exactly what you're talking about, yea, And he right
Speaker 1: that fast out the gate. And you see, he's that
Speaker 1: that type of guy. Most people run as fast as
Speaker 1: they can. He runs fast as you want to to
Speaker 1: see he got that kind of speed. I run faster,
Speaker 1: I want to you. You can't do anything with right
Speaker 1: right right? But he hey, if I mean to watch
Speaker 1: him and to see what he's become is just unbelievable.
Speaker 1: And he from the crib from Georgia Coffee County. I
Speaker 1: got to throw that in there.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I always support the guys from the crib. So big takeaway.
Speaker 1: Let's get to your Bengals. I don't know Pete Carroll,
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, just keep Pee Carroll like you know what.
Speaker 2: I don't want y'all.
Speaker 1: I want y'all to He's like, I don't want y'all
Speaker 1: to forget that I made the biggest bone head, dumbest
Speaker 1: play in the one hundred and four hundred and five
Speaker 1: year history. He said, what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a couple of other ones. Oh ya,
Speaker 1: Why would you not take the field goal? Your defense
Speaker 1: had basically stemy the Bengals for the entire second half.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about shut him down. Why not take the
Speaker 1: field goal? You got the two many warnings and two timeouts.
Speaker 1: They go for it on fourth down, they don't get it.
Speaker 1: They three and out of them. They punt the ball
Speaker 1: now instead of needing needing a field goal to go
Speaker 1: down and win the game, need a touchdown.
Speaker 2: I just want to I just want to know. I
Speaker 2: just want to know.
Speaker 1: What Pete Carroll was thinking and Gino, Bro, can you
Speaker 1: stop retreating? I mean, every time Persson come you run
Speaker 1: back up. Bro, can you stop that? Sometimes just throw
Speaker 1: them all away? It's okay, yeah, Well you.
Speaker 4: Know you got you got you gotta get outside outside of.
Speaker 5: The tackle box.
Speaker 4: So you can't just throw it away now because you're
Speaker 4: gonna get intentional grounding. But again, I'm not a coach,
Speaker 4: I'm not Pete Carroll. I'm not sure what the logic
Speaker 4: is in those situations like that. Obviously it's clear for
Speaker 4: us to see sitting at home watching from TV as
Speaker 4: opposed as to it is for them. I think I'm
Speaker 4: sure Pete Carroll has adviseds especially on the situation and
Speaker 4: understanding what's going on and knowing that you know it
Speaker 4: will if I kick a field goal now I want
Speaker 4: need to touch down on the back end when we
Speaker 4: get them to three and out.
Speaker 5: And I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 4: I don't know where the thought puss say is and
Speaker 4: why he did what he did.
Speaker 1: Where the analytics guys? Where the analyst guy when they
Speaker 1: need him? Were the nerdy guy that couldn't? Where the
Speaker 1: nerdy the nerdy people because I don't want to leave
Speaker 1: anybody out people because they might be some women, they
Speaker 1: might be guys. So where are the nerdy people when
Speaker 1: you need them that couldn't play the sport? They say,
Speaker 1: you know what, I want to be involved in the sport.
Speaker 2: So let me tell you.
Speaker 1: If you go forward on fourth and three, there's a
Speaker 1: forty six percent chance that you win the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's one hundred percent chance you're gonna lose.
Speaker 2: You don't get right.
Speaker 1: So I just want to know where are the people
Speaker 1: that are in his ear that's tend to peak. We
Speaker 1: kicked the field goal, we're still two minutes, there's still
Speaker 1: two we're outside of two minutes and we have two timeouts.
Speaker 2: Where are those people?
Speaker 4: I have no idea head coaches have.
Speaker 5: They have advisors, right, they have they have to have
Speaker 5: the eye and the start up there.
Speaker 2: Yes, telling you what what the challenge to challenge you
Speaker 2: should challenge? That is right right.
Speaker 4: Yes, at the end of the day, the call, it
Speaker 4: all comes down to the head coach making the call
Speaker 4: on what he on what he wants his offense to do.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I mean it's the Seahawks played tremendous football.
Speaker 4: I I I tweeted out earlier that they played extremely well.
Speaker 4: That god damn secondary. Devin Witherspoon.
Speaker 2: Lost over that and you lost them twenty five units.
Speaker 2: Hey do you remember that? And you had that bat?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had a bat And you know, I don't
Speaker 4: I don't mind losing it. I don't mind it. I
Speaker 4: took my glasses off for a reason. Because I know
Speaker 4: them boys gonna see this man. Y'all, y'all young young
Speaker 4: bulls out there, man Seattle man, Man, I take my
Speaker 4: glass off, Man, I salute you.
Speaker 5: They played a hell of a game, like for real.
Speaker 2: I don't even mind.
Speaker 5: I don't even mind losing.
Speaker 2: What I told you about spoo. What do they tell
Speaker 2: you about spoon?
Speaker 4: Hey, hey, them boys played the hell of a game,
Speaker 4: like like real, real ship. And I'm cursing too, and
Speaker 4: I'm saved. They played the hell of a game.
Speaker 5: Man, God what.
Speaker 2: They did.
Speaker 1: And and the coach and the coach trying to be
Speaker 1: a hero, try to say because you guess what they say.
Speaker 2: I got.
Speaker 1: I got confidence in my defense, confidence in my office.
Speaker 1: That's what they always give you. I know this team.
Speaker 1: I looked them in the eye. I know how we practice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they looking at you like, coach, tell your ass out
Speaker 1: the way and let us win this ball game. That's
Speaker 1: why they looking at you when you start it up
Speaker 1: there and you squat did the Prince conference and you
Speaker 1: try to impress the media members. I look those guys
Speaker 1: in the eye every single day. I know what they're
Speaker 1: made of. They say, yeah, we know you made up
Speaker 1: to some bullge.
Speaker 4: Eye now and you should say he's look at me
Speaker 4: the what and I.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he go out there.
Speaker 1: I look those guys in the eye every single day
Speaker 1: and they would tell you I do it again.
Speaker 2: Know you wouldn't.
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Speaker 2: Colorado Stamford.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Colorado jumps out to a big lead, twenty nine zero.
Speaker 2: And what happened.
Speaker 4: Second half? Obviously it was up twenty nine zip. Second half.
Speaker 4: You got to keep your foot on the gas. Not
Speaker 4: only do you have to keep your foot on the gas,
Speaker 4: the penalties, the penalties, the penalties, the penalties, or we're
Speaker 4: a killer. There was also a killer obviously not being
Speaker 4: able to stop the offense in the second half as well.
Speaker 4: Thirteen thirteen what who Elick elic Ayana Moore wait a
Speaker 4: a Maynor?
Speaker 2: Did I say it right? I don't know what you said.
Speaker 1: All I know is he had a pot and he
Speaker 1: was cooking everybody else. He had a pot out there
Speaker 1: on the field and he was cooking everybody a leak.
Speaker 2: Are you a man?
Speaker 1: Or that he had thirteen? You give some, you get some.
Speaker 1: He's that will stir fry you. I'm all grill you.
Speaker 1: Other rolls you, I will fry you. I mean he
Speaker 1: would getting everybody at work.
Speaker 5: Listen.
Speaker 4: I didn't know anything about him until I was able
Speaker 4: to watch that game. He had thirteen catches for two
Speaker 4: and ninety five yards and three tds. If if we
Speaker 4: didn't know about him, then we know about him now.
Speaker 4: And we know about him now. He put himself on
Speaker 4: the map. Put yourself on the map that.
Speaker 1: Night, oh Joe, And I'm probably gonna catch him flag
Speaker 1: from there.
Speaker 2: Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it.
Speaker 4: Think about it first, Think about it first. For you
Speaker 4: said it, I am think about it first. Disciplined penalty
Speaker 4: is a discipline.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not saying.
Speaker 1: I know what coach says publicly and I know what
Speaker 1: he says privately because I've had this conversation with him.
Speaker 1: We went to the hall together in twenty eleven. Yes,
Speaker 1: me and that man talk up until probably he got
Speaker 1: to Colorado. We would talk sometimes two three times a week,
Speaker 1: so I know what he's trying to get done. But
Speaker 1: right now Colorado is a very undisciplined football team, and
Speaker 1: it's hard to overcome those type of mistakes. Is you've
Speaker 1: got to get out of your own way, and right
Speaker 1: now they're not getting out of their own way. And
Speaker 1: that's that's frustrating. Points forget the defense. I don't care
Speaker 1: but the defense because guess what when they score seven,
Speaker 1: guess what they.
Speaker 2: Kick the ball off to you.
Speaker 1: You can go back down the field and score also,
Speaker 1: but this, they've got to do a better job.
Speaker 2: They've got to fix that.
Speaker 1: And and coach and coach coach Prime get up after
Speaker 1: every press conference and he say penalties, penalties, penalties. Now
Speaker 1: something is getting lost in translation. Either the message that
Speaker 1: you're getting is not is not being received or how
Speaker 1: you how you're delivering the message isn't being received. But
Speaker 1: something there's a disconnect somewhere because you can't keep having
Speaker 1: double digital penalties and expect to win these games.
Speaker 2: Right, don't. I don't think that.
Speaker 5: I don't think there's a disconnect.
Speaker 4: I think the moments like this are new for these kids,
Speaker 4: the situations that they're in, the lights, the program that
Speaker 4: the new the new found stardom, or whatever it may be.
Speaker 4: At times you have to find a happy medium of
Speaker 4: calmness and relax and I call it what I call
Speaker 4: it be in a situation like this when when you're
Speaker 4: in a game of that magnitude, I call it being
Speaker 4: quick but not in a hurry. When you when you
Speaker 4: quick and not in a hurry, you don't make mistakes.
Speaker 4: You don't you don't make those kind of mistakes that
Speaker 4: they're making. And I'm talking about from an individual position.
Speaker 4: For me playing receiver, I really can't speak for anybody else.
Speaker 4: I think about shador had A had a very very
Speaker 4: good game.
Speaker 2: Had make two mistakes he made. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1: If he makes that throw, he has Travis wide open
Speaker 1: on thirty six. He makes that throw, that's the first
Speaker 1: down they killed the clock. And then he has to
Speaker 1: realize in sudden death, you can't throw the ball up
Speaker 1: because now you prevent your team from getting an opportunity
Speaker 1: that at three.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make them kick it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make them score touchdown to beat me and
Speaker 1: not kick a field goal.
Speaker 2: So that's the.
Speaker 1: One thing, Like I said, the one throw he played
Speaker 1: phenomenal up until that third down throw missed him. He
Speaker 1: just missed him. And then the the heed you have
Speaker 1: to you have to understand. Okay, this is sudden death.
Speaker 1: This is different than the third quarter. This is different
Speaker 1: than the fourth quarter. Now because sudden depth. We've already
Speaker 1: this is our possession. We don't get points out of this.
Speaker 1: They get points, they win. So that's something I'm sure
Speaker 1: Coach would talk to him about, not just as a coach,
Speaker 1: but as as a father and a son, because you know,
Speaker 1: on the field, I'm talking to you as a father,
Speaker 1: as a son, I mean, as a player.
Speaker 2: But at home, Hey, this is what I want you
Speaker 2: to understand.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure he'll probably call Tom and Tom Brady
Speaker 1: will tell him the same thing because they text, they
Speaker 1: speak frequently, and those are some of the things that
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to know, have to know. Also, this
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter playing too many snaps. He thinks, so the
Speaker 1: guy was out, Oh Joe, the guy was out for
Speaker 1: a month. You're gonna have him out for a month
Speaker 1: and bring it back and play them over one hundred
Speaker 1: snaps did you see? And it impacted him on both
Speaker 1: sides of the football.
Speaker 4: I mean, let me see, he was out a month.
Speaker 4: That's that's hard to say. That's hard to.
Speaker 2: Say, is oo? Think about it? Oo's let me ask
Speaker 2: you a question.
Speaker 1: I could I understand he's talented, but if you if,
Speaker 1: if you, if you burn him too much.
Speaker 2: He hasn't been in game competition in LAMA.
Speaker 4: Is easy for us to say on the outside. It's
Speaker 4: easy for us to say on the outside that he's
Speaker 4: playing too many snaps. I mean, I think he knows.
Speaker 2: You haven't played in the mart.
Speaker 4: I mean what was he doing before before that? He
Speaker 4: was still he would play. He had a high vallua
Speaker 4: the game. Think about now you playing in the game,
Speaker 4: so you play it every week? You know, I don't
Speaker 4: know have you have you ever missed it? Have you
Speaker 4: missed any game during the season? No, no, sir, Let
Speaker 4: me ask your question.
Speaker 1: When you come out of the preseason that first game
Speaker 1: was the Dickens, wasn't it? Even though you have been practicing.
Speaker 1: You have been doing all that. So imagine now think
Speaker 1: about it. You've been practicing, So imagine taking a month
Speaker 1: off and you say, how many players are they in
Speaker 1: the game?
Speaker 5: Sixty seventy sixty seventy.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna add forty five to fifty to that workload.
Speaker 2: Now tell me how you gonna feel.
Speaker 4: Damn it's oh man, that's a that's a tough one.
Speaker 4: That's a tough one because I think playing.
Speaker 1: Too many snaps Washington, O Joe, they was hunting. They
Speaker 1: was hunting him on the defensive side, O Joe. He's
Speaker 1: your best cover guy and they're hunting him. Why because
Speaker 1: the legs you played hold on, Ojo, and this this one,
Speaker 1: you're gonna say, Okay, you're right, you're right. They're playing
Speaker 1: him one hundred plus snap at altitude. That's not Miami,
Speaker 1: that's Denver, Colorado. Where they send you to go train.
Speaker 1: The Olympic training facility is in Colorado. They send you
Speaker 1: to go there because the blood, because the oxygen.
Speaker 4: I have a question, are we are? We are we
Speaker 4: panicking a little bit too fast? A little bit because listen,
Speaker 4: he lived with stay with say with me. He was
Speaker 4: playing a high volume a stap before and were playing
Speaker 4: well on both sides of the ball. When he picked
Speaker 4: off the ball, when he picked off the ball against
Speaker 4: you see, you would pick up the ballgainst TCU, he
Speaker 4: was playing the same number of snaps. So how about
Speaker 4: just this game, the person playing in front of him
Speaker 4: just got the better of him this one time. Just
Speaker 4: that What if he comes back next week and it's
Speaker 4: right back and putting those same situations and picks the
Speaker 4: ball off or scrolls and all.
Speaker 1: If you come back when next week, that means he
Speaker 1: has he had a week up under his belt.
Speaker 2: But let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1: When you picked that ball for TCU, was he coming
Speaker 1: off of injury and missing the month of the season.
Speaker 5: You're right, you're right, you're right, You're right, You're right, right.
Speaker 4: But I'm just thinking, like when I was a shorty,
Speaker 4: when I was that age, about you know how we
Speaker 4: run all day? You talk about where we run all
Speaker 4: day in his football. It's still fun. So we don't
Speaker 4: even see it as a workload.
Speaker 2: We see this.
Speaker 5: This is what we do. This is what I do
Speaker 5: both sides.
Speaker 1: Of a think about even Charles Woodson that won the
Speaker 1: Heisman didn't play this many snaps, right, and he won
Speaker 1: the Heisman doing it.
Speaker 4: Remember, this is this is a different dynamic, different team.
Speaker 4: This is this is this is different.
Speaker 5: That's Michigan.
Speaker 2: Like I said, champ champion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Colorado has seventeen penalties for one hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: seven yards. Several of those penalties kept drives alive. And
Speaker 1: they had four one two three four illegal substitutions. You
Speaker 1: can't play with twelve. I've tried to figured the sport
Speaker 1: that you can have twelve men on the field. I
Speaker 1: think soccer, you could have baseball you can have nine?
Speaker 1: How many of them? How many on soccer?
Speaker 2: Eleven? Eleven?
Speaker 1: Football level? So what sport can you have twelve men?
Speaker 1: Volleyball you can't have twelve. So I've tried to figure
Speaker 1: the sport. So why the hell y'all keep trotting out
Speaker 1: of extra main?
Speaker 5: Then small small, small eras small eras small area.
Speaker 1: Jo, if you rear in somebody four times, you can't drive,
Speaker 1: damn it one time. I understand when you running the
Speaker 1: back of somebody for them for a different occasion, you
Speaker 1: can't drive.
Speaker 2: Bro Right, You're right, You're right. Listen.
Speaker 5: First year, that's all I can say.
Speaker 4: First year, what we expected out of Colorado with everybody
Speaker 4: doubting them and where they are and what they're doing. Man, listen,
Speaker 4: I got nothing but high praise and proper but not
Speaker 4: just Prime, but for everything they're doing right now, base
Speaker 4: I want oh.
Speaker 1: Cho I want him to win that game because I
Speaker 1: want him to get the six wins so they can
Speaker 1: go bowling.
Speaker 2: Right, Oh, I want him to go bowling. Okay, you're right,
Speaker 2: You're right, You're right. That's what that's that's that's what
Speaker 2: I want him to win.
Speaker 1: You got to cut like you said, you've got to
Speaker 1: cut down on the mistakes. You can't have that. Yes,
Speaker 1: Coach Prime, he he said it before he's came. He
Speaker 1: came on first take and said that. He said, I
Speaker 1: need seven eight more dogs. He probably need three. He
Speaker 1: probably need three or four of those dogs on the
Speaker 1: D line. He probably needs three, three on them offense,
Speaker 1: three or four on the offensive. And then he'll get
Speaker 1: a rap because he got the skill players. The skill players,
Speaker 1: especially on the offensive side, can make plays. Now, there's
Speaker 1: some guys gonna have to understand situation and angles to play, because.
Speaker 2: Look, you can't give up a ninety seven yard touchdown.
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 1: You can't give up a sixty yard touchdown with a
Speaker 1: guy catched the ball on one side and breaks it
Speaker 1: all the way back across the other side, score touchdown.
Speaker 1: You can't have that. But the penal is seventeen pinals
Speaker 1: to get your beat. Yeah, they'll get your beat. And
Speaker 1: but it was, it was. It was a great game.
Speaker 1: Forty six forty three, double overtime.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it.
Speaker 5: I enjoyed it.
Speaker 4: Like if every game, if every game was like that,
Speaker 4: every collegiate game was like that, it'd be that much better,
Speaker 4: that much better as opposed to the team just blowing
Speaker 4: everybody out each week, especially the top dogs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, even even we saw what happened with SC and
Speaker 1: they're terrible defense. Yeah you know what, Oh Joe, I
Speaker 1: know you. You saw the game DK, And I've talked
Speaker 1: to DK publicly and I've talked to him privately. Bro,
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta stop the you gotta stop the
Speaker 1: unnecessary stuff.
Speaker 2: Brobby want you okay, by shoving the guy in his
Speaker 2: face mask.
Speaker 5: Trying to intimidate him, trying to intimidate him, that's all
Speaker 5: trying to fifteen you cut yourself fifteen yards, I want,
Speaker 5: I want. Maybe you thought the ref wasn't looking you
Speaker 5: think so?
Speaker 1: Oh yo, Remember I tell you how you in the
Speaker 1: wide open you can't do you gotta do stuff in
Speaker 1: a pile. You got to do stuff in a combined
Speaker 1: or congested area. Now you can get away. But if
Speaker 1: you right there, he the dB right there, and you
Speaker 1: shoved the man with both hands or.
Speaker 2: One hand in his face, they're gonna throw flag. Every time.
Speaker 4: I wonder Britt said something to him to get him
Speaker 4: getting riled up like that.
Speaker 1: Hey, all that talking, see they used to But you
Speaker 1: do know old show in the course of a game,
Speaker 1: I can get your ass back and make it look
Speaker 1: like a play.
Speaker 2: Get your back, but make it look like a play. Yeah.
Speaker 4: The funny thing about it, if if if Britt really
Speaker 4: got in his head to once again in your head
Speaker 4: like that mentally, and it causes you to react like that,
Speaker 4: you're not gonna do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you lost the war. You lost. Guess what.
Speaker 1: Guess what everybody said, Hey man, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say something because that's like the second or third
Speaker 1: time that that's happened, So clearly that's a problem.
Speaker 2: Bro, you too good.
Speaker 1: Just hey, go score on it, Go score on it,
Speaker 1: and say Nazi every time you keep running your mind.
Speaker 2: This is what I'm gonna do to you, right right,
Speaker 2: right right right, oh man?
Speaker 1: But uh D can't sit after the game he didn't
Speaker 1: hear the whistleblower the play there, so he countinue to
Speaker 1: block the guy.
Speaker 2: Hey, I love.
Speaker 1: D Hey you don't want kind of lie out there,
Speaker 1: so that.
Speaker 2: When he hit the whistle, Yeah, he said, he hit
Speaker 2: the whistle, Say you don't he I like it, I
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