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Speaker 1: It Positive, Sweety. I'm Christophinee and Hazlet and today I

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much as thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: I know you're busy and you got a lot going on,

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I grew up in Galveston, Texas, in

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I appreciate that. So you talk

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Speaker 2: and some things just go too far. Yes, So I'm

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Speaker 1: Yes, I love that, And I feel like salons are

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Speaker 2: It's therapy. It's spiritual, it's camaraderie, it's just woman power.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Now fast forward, you have your own hair care,

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Speaker 2: Actually they're Beyonce's product.

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Speaker 1: It's not just yeah, it seems like you're working with it.

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Speaker 1: Because it seems like it's a collective project.

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Speaker 2: It absolutely is, from on down to testing on blue

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Speaker 2: dance class. We can't afford all the things that I

432
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,360
Speaker 2: wanted to do. And and you know, but my mom

433
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 2: would put that money in church. And I'll be like,

434
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 2: you know what I could do with that money. And

435
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 2: you're always saying we don't have money, but you always

436
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 2: put money in church. We're poor, we can't afford to

437
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 2: put the money in church. And she said, Teenie, that

438
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 2: is yeah, they called me teeny. She said, that is

439
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: how we make it. That's how we eat, that's how

440
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,439
Speaker 2: we live. And you got to understand that, you know,

441
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 2: that's how we're making it. And you know, when I

442
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 2: think back on it, my dad was sort of disabled

443
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 2: because he had no hearing in his left ear, and

444
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 2: he couldn't see in his right ear right eye because

445
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 2: he was in the mind exposure. So he could only

446
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 2: work certain jobs at his job. And there were times

447
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 2: when we got forty five dollars a week, which is

448
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 2: what they called the pennies, but it's unemployment because if

449
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,239
Speaker 2: it wasn't work, you could apply for unemployment forty five

450
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 2: dollars a week with a family of seven people, and

451
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 2: we made it all the time because and so I

452
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 2: didn't understand it when I was young, I was still pissed.

453
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 2: But when I got older, I understood that that's what

454
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: she was talking about, because how did we manage to

455
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 2: live and to be very fashionable even though we didn't

456
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 2: have any money. We were sharp all the time, but

457
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 2: we never went hungry. And I really didn't even realize

458
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,719
Speaker 2: how poor I was till I got older. Yeah, so

459
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 2: that's how we made it.

460
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: Wow, I love it. That is beautiful. That's beautiful. There's

461
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: other things that you've done besides hair, having your own

462
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: hair salon, but you were also big in fashion. Yes,

463
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: you had the Hauseidarion and Miss Tina by Tina Knowles.

464
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 1: How exciting was that to take everything that you learned

465
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: from your mom and create your own line.

466
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: Oh, it was so much fun, you know, haw Sadirion was.

467
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 2: It was amazing because it was really kind of was

468
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,479
Speaker 2: born because of the fans asking where can we get this?

469
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 2: And we want the clothes, and it was such a

470
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 2: fun time for us. And you know, it's defunct now

471
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 2: because we you know, we decided to give it up

472
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: because we just could didn't have the right partners and

473
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 2: they just had a whole different direction for the brand

474
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 2: than we did. Wow, they wanted to be very junior.

475
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 2: They wanted to be fast fast, like fast fashion when

476
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 2: logos that big everywhere, and you know, it just got

477
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,719
Speaker 2: to the point where we didn't enjoy it, right, But

478
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 2: it was a very successful brand.

479
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: I have. I definitely you had. I did, that's right,

480
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: because the jeans were started.

481
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 2: They first started jeans, and I took all those tricks

482
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 2: of tailoring from my mom and put them in the jeans.

483
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 2: And I don't think it's any They were some of

484
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 2: the top genes to fit behind.

485
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 1: They were they give.

486
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: You a nice shape, you know. But yeah, it's passion.

487
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: I've always had a passion for fashion. My nephew, Johnny

488
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 2: and I used to design our own clothes. We were

489
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: always voted the best dress. We were, you know, just

490
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 2: always sharp. And that's what that's the funny thing. Being

491
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 2: that poor made me more creative. Yes, you know. So

492
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 2: my mom's excuse was always, well, you can't have the

493
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 2: whatever the jeans were. Jeans weren't the big thing, but

494
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 2: like certain styles that I wanted, and she was like,

495
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 2: yours is much better because it's more creative. And I'll

496
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 2: be like, that's she just telling me that because she

497
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 2: don't want to spend the money to buy it for me.

498
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 2: But it turned out to childjust to really not just

499
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 2: go to the stores and buy stuff, but to look

500
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 2: in Vogue magazine, you know, the top magazine and trying

501
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 2: to copy those things. And so it gave me a

502
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: really great knowledge of fashion and I appreciate that.

503
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, now, do you have any plans to create another line?

504
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 2: You're don She's like, no, fashion is you know, it's

505
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 2: really really hard. I love these products because the products

506
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 2: are transforming people's hair. Like I just can't wait till

507
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 2: you use it. You'll see the difference.

508
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: And no, I already have it. I've seen the difference

509
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: if you have a deep conditioning between my projective styles.

510
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: The rice water the correct word. It's rice, rice and rose. Yeah,

511
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: and it makes my hair feel so good. No, I

512
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 1: love it.

513
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 2: It's it's I mean, but the products are I'm very,

514
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 2: very excited about that, and I just want to expand

515
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 2: it to styling products and all of that. So that's

516
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 2: what I'm most passionate about right now in terms of,

517
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: you know, of product, our projects. Yeah.

518
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: I love that your grandson, Jules, we actually share the

519
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: same birthday. Yeah. Yeah, that's how Andrew remembers my birthday

520
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: because the same birthday.

521
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you got a very sweet demeanor, like he's

522
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: a sweetheart.

523
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: Y'all met him at one of the shows Angie introduced.

524
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: She's like, it's your birthday. But yeah, I see that

525
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: he is now modeling. How does that make you feel

526
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: to see your grandson just like he's in Paris like

527
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: doing ye did shut back?

528
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: He I mean, he loves it, and I'm just so

529
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: happy that he has found his thing. You know, he

530
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: loves fashion and he's working on a fashion line that

531
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: was really good. It's a streetwhear line and he's been

532
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 2: working on it for the last couple of years, and

533
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 2: so I think that's a natural progression for him to

534
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: go into modeling. Yeah.

535
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, he's killing it. And when I saw that

536
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: Fashion Week last fall, I was like, Okay, I see

537
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: what we're doing here. Yeah, that's amazing. And then Blue

538
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: Ivy took the world by storm doing during the Renaissance tour.

539
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: I think I went to like five shows oh wow.

540
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,959
Speaker 1: We went to the first two in Sweden in Stockholm,

541
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: and then I went again in Amsterdam. Wow. And then

542
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: I went to like three shows in Atlanta.

543
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: He was keeping you from us because he came to

544
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 2: He came to the very first show him.

545
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in the Prairie Circle for the very

546
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: first show, Like I literally landed because I wasn't coming

547
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: because I had to do I was prepping the film

548
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: Going Back for Sisters and because that was in May,

549
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: like and yeah, during the going into summer, and he's

550
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: like Christie was like no, so they the crew who

551
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: over there? And was like, I think Eve or somebody.

552
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: He's like, see, even just went to my bathroom. He's like,

553
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: if you were here, this would have never happened because

554
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: they rode his jet And I was like okay, and

555
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: then he was like can you please come? And I

556
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: was like all right. So his Jody booked me a

557
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: flight to go and I landed and there were welcome

558
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: head was like they're about to pray if you want

559
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: to make the circle, So I was like running into the.

560
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: I know that. Yeah, that was that first show. I

561
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: was still in that wardrobe room till the last second

562
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 2: trying to get those clothes out.

563
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: So you still do that, like you still?

564
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? What I what I do is on the last tour,

565
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 2: Beyonce said, well I think that you know, she had

566
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: a short period of time and she said I want

567
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: two stylists and I said, you know, we're gonna.

568
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: Get four because we have such.

569
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 2: So I actually found the stylus, put them together, managed

570
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 2: and gave them the budgets, and you know, oversaw the

571
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: whole project. So yeah, but I still got to get

572
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: in there and saw something somebody to make it fit

573
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 2: him some pans or do whatever. Yeah, I love it though,

574
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: it's fun.

575
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: I love that now. I remember you made a comment

576
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: about I think it was you that you were kind

577
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: of hesitant when they say that Blue is going to perform.

578
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well I wasn't hesitant Beyonce was happy, yeah,

579
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: and she she was like Blue because she want the

580
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: pressure on her because she knows what that brings, you know,

581
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: and people are you know, they can be very cruel.

582
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: And she was like, I just don't want her to

583
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: get caught up in this. I want her to decide

584
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: on her own what she wants to do. And so

585
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: Blue kept asking because every day Blue rehearsed with all

586
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 2: the dancers and I was like, she can do it.

587
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 2: She is killing it. And then Beyonce said, okay, I'm

588
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 2: gonna let you do one city. I'll let you do Paris.

589
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: And once she did it, that was supposed to be

590
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,479
Speaker 2: a one time thing. You know, people were so evil

591
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: at me and saying all these comments. And so one

592
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 2: of her friends told her about the comments and it

593
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 2: was such a life lesson for her because she was

594
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: very upset about it. And her mom said, well, you know,

595
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 2: you can let them win and you can just give

596
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: up and say you'll never do it again. But if

597
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: I were you, I'll go work harder and I would

598
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,959
Speaker 2: get out there and kill it and shut them up.

599
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: She did, and she did.

600
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: That just that you can see her progression every single show.

601
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: I was like Oh. Yeah.

602
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: She worked hard though, Yeah, because I mean Blue at

603
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: the time was eleven, and you know, most of the

604
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: dancers are at least twenty twenty five, some of them thirty.

605
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: They've been doing this forever. And they were amazed that

606
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: she could keep up and learn the choreography and have

607
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: her own little swag in her own style. She reminded

608
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: me of Cluge because Solange did the same thing.

609
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 1: Really she started.

610
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, she started dancing with Destiny's Child when she was

611
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 2: thirteen because Kelly broke her toe.

612
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: Wow.

613
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: And when Kelly broke her toe, we were like, we

614
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 2: can't stop the show. So I studied Kelly's whole boots

615
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 2: and she sat on the studied stool and sung, and

616
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: Solange danced for her in the same costumes. So, yeah,

617
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: when she was thirteen, and I was so worried about

618
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,959
Speaker 2: her because I was like, she's only thirteen and everybody's grown.

619
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: And she got out there and kept up with them.

620
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: Sometimes she'll cry, you know, she would be in high

621
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: altitudes and say I can't do this, and I'm like, yes,

622
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: you can. You signed up. You gotta finish it. Yeah,

623
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 2: because that is my philosophy. You don't have to do anything.

624
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: But if you sign up for it, you got to finish.

625
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: Can I sweat?

626
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: My Daddy's always like that bad food, just like I.

627
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: You're gonna sign up for it, you have to go.

628
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: One proud and you gotta keep it going.

629
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: Wow. And speaking of salone, Solane has found her own voice. Yes,

630
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: I love that because I've seen her evolution as well.

631
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: And how does how proud does it make you to

632
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: see like both of your daughters thriving.

633
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: I've always been proud of them, not only for you know,

634
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: show business, but just as being good human beings and

635
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: that's most important. But their success has been great to

636
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: watch too because they work. They work so hard. My

637
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: girls work hard, they do Yeah, nothing is given to them,

638
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,479
Speaker 2: So I'm proud of that.

639
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Do you ever like wake up some mornings

640
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: and be like, well, my kids are amazing, you know,

641
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: like because you're Beyonce is like one of the biggest

642
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: supersions in the world. Like, do you ever wake up

643
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: and be like that came out of me?

644
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: Not really, The people say it to me all the time,

645
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: and I have thought about it, but you know again,

646
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I just feel so blessed to have the

647
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: kids that I have, and Kelly too, because Kelly, because

648
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 2: you know she Kelly is the same. I mean this

649
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: just the best work ethic and the best person. She

650
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: still remains the sweetest, kindest, you know, generous person. And

651
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: that's that's not easy. You know, it's not easy in

652
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,719
Speaker 2: this business. That's why again I was so impressed that

653
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: you want to do something called positive, you know, because

654
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: this business can chew you up and spit.

655
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: You out again, and it makes it really hard. Yes,

656
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: you really can. I was talking to a friend of

657
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: mine yesterday just about how certain circumstances can really cause

658
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: you to be guarded and almost make you cold.

659
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, to protect yourself, because you have to protect yourself

660
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: because you know, it's a lot of beasts out there,

661
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 2: you know, in this business. I was really scared, you know,

662
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 2: when the girls got in and I became so involved

663
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 2: in their careers. And people think it's because I'm a

664
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 2: stage mother, but it was because I wanted to earn

665
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: my keep and I wanted to watch them and protect

666
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: them because you know, it's a scary thing, you know,

667
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: to try to keep them grounded, saying oh no, no, no,

668
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: they can pick up their bags, they not their hands

669
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: not broken. Look people in the eye when you walk

670
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 2: into a hotel, I don't care if it's two o'clock

671
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 2: in the morning, that is that person. Treat them kind.

672
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: So I was around to do those things, you know,

673
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: and I know that that's why they have been able

674
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: to stay. I'm not the only reason, but part of

675
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: it is just staying grounded. You know. It's somebody to

676
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: pop you upside your head, not fl you know. Let

677
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 2: you know when you when you're getting a little divadup

678
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 2: going on, you.

679
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: Know, that's good. Everybody needs a mama te Yeah. I

680
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: have good people around me that say, all right, you know.

681
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 1: And that's one thing Tyler did instill in me because

682
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: when I was styling him, I didn't understand because I've

683
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 1: been I wanted to be an actor, I wanted to sing,

684
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: and then he offers me this job, and I'm like,

685
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: this is not what I was trying to do.

686
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: Lord, that is amazing.

687
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: Yes, But then I prayed about it and I was like, Okay,

688
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this.

689
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 2: Oh you're saying a styling. He offered you the job

690
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 2: to stotyle, But I was way into it exactly.

691
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: But I didn't know that at first, I'm just like

692
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: I just said, God just ordered my steps, Like, if

693
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: this is what you want me to do, I'm gonna

694
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: do it, and you will make room for whatever I

695
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 1: really want to do if that's in your will. And

696
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: everything that I learned in those five years of being

697
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: that close to Tyler have helped me God like literally

698
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: step into the shoes I'm in today. That's right. Yeah,

699
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: the same with Angie.

700
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 2: I feel like all that time of being around show

701
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 2: business and it was just tools that she can pull

702
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: out and it comes out, you know, and so it

703
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: was an easy transition.

704
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: It was. It's very evident when she's on set she

705
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: knows even from hair and the hair it's so funny.

706
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: There's the whole thing that the hairstyle says not putting

707
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: no conciler on Angie's part.

708
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: She said, I don't want that. Oh I know.

709
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: Angie heavy cracking, but she knows because she's been around

710
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: it for so long. Even on set, she knows the camera,

711
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 1: she knows how things supposed to look. So trans transitions

712
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: on this set and you can tell that she's been

713
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: around it all her Yes, yeah, but she's still kind,

714
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: still sweet and grounded, like you say, she doesn't come

715
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: in acting like a diva. And I feel like every

716
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: one that I've met I have met Solange, but b

717
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: Kelly and Angie all who all came under you. You

718
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: can see this, So that's also a reflection of you

719
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: and the things that you taught them, because even when

720
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: you're not around, they are as sweet as can be. Yeah, everybody, Yeah,

721
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: that's yeah, No, for sure, let's see to thank you

722
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: so much.

723
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 2: This was wonderful.

724
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: Yes, I appreciate you making time and stopping by. We

725
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: do something at the end of our show called positive Outcome,

726
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: So if you can hang out with me just for

727
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,479
Speaker 1: a little bit longer. This is where our listeners write

728
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: in and we just give them a little advice. Okay,

729
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: So this one says, Hi, Crystal. I'm a fifty two

730
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: year old mother of a thirty one year old son.

731
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: I have two grandchildren who are six and eleven. Our

732
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: family loves hard and enjoys creating memories with one another.

733
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: Long story short. I was a single mother raising my

734
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: son while also taking care of my sickly parents for

735
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: nineteen years. In two thousand and two, my father had

736
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,959
Speaker 1: a massive stroke and I had a stroke one month later. Wow,

737
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 1: we rerecuperated together. In two thousand and eight, I lost

738
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: my father, but my mom remained with me and we

739
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: have some great years together, nurturing her to health emotionally

740
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: and mentally because she loved and missed my dad. My

741
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: mom battled with Parkinson's disease and did not walk for

742
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: the last eleven years. God restored me by taking the

743
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: best care of her until her death last November. Unfortunately,

744
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: the last three years of my health declined because of

745
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: the stress of working forty to fifty hours a week,

746
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: coming home to care for my mom, which sometimes had

747
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: me up all night, and having to repeat it the

748
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: next day. Heart failure in my recovery plan has given

749
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: me a fresh start, and I'm ready to start dating again.

750
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: Do you have any dating tips that you can share? Well, girl,

751
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: you asking the wrong person because she's that part of

752
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: my life is non existent. Okay, I'll still the people

753
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: it out. Yeah, no, it is. It's really hard, and

754
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: I think to just knowing who the right people are

755
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: and why they're in your life makes it harder for me.

756
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, very good?

757
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but if I feel like I didn't get

758
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,479
Speaker 1: your name, But if you are ready for a fresh

759
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: start and you feel like you're ready to get back

760
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 1: out there. I would one just pray that God opens

761
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: your heart for the right person. Lot of times when

762
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: we haven't data for a long time, we can be

763
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: open to just anything. So I always say, like you said, discernment,

764
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: use your discernment and make sure the person is right

765
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 1: for you. Spend time with people and dates. I feel

766
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: like a lot of times we meet one person and

767
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it's my husband. Like no date people,

768
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: to really kind of filter out the ones that are

769
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: not for you and then decide, Okay, I really like

770
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: this person. What would you say with Tina?

771
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 2: I agree with everything you said, and I think one

772
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 2: of the things is that, you know, we talked about

773
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 2: manif the station, and I think you gotta manifest what

774
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: you want and be very very picky about it and

775
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 2: pray for what you want, but also get out there, yeah,

776
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 2: and open your heart. You know, my best friend decided

777
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: she was gonna get her a man. She hadn't had

778
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 2: a man in fifteen years because she got divorced, and

779
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 2: she told me, within six months, I'm gonna have a man.

780
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, right. She absolutely did because she

781
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: started opening herself up to it. She started going to

782
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 2: social events, you know, after church. She didn't rush out.

783
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: I had to meet people. So she was just determined,

784
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 2: and within six months she had a really good man.

785
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: Probably four months she had a really good man. Had

786
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: been married for now eight years. What and yeah, so

787
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: you can't manifest, but you got to get out there

788
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 2: because if you're just going to work and coming home,

789
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 2: probably ain't gonna.

790
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: Happen, like it's gonna break into your house. Yeah right,

791
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but like that's that's how I'm going. Chris, Like,

792
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,919
Speaker 1: you don't leave the house, right, I'm like, you can't,

793
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: you can't, Like, hey, are you here for me? Yeah?

794
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 2: Well, you know, social events. Volunteer. Now that she's free,

795
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: she can volunteer for some organizations. And what better way

796
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 2: to make somebody who cares about people than in an

797
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 2: organization is charitable. So that's I think that's where I'm going.

798
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 1: I love that.

799
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:49,959
Speaker 2: So, okay, I know that's right.

800
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: We can go to some charity events together. I told him.

801
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 1: It's probably like a month ago. I was in Miami

802
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: and I was talking to a friend of mine and

803
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: I was like, I have not spent another high by

804
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: myself and I was like Lily, I said, God, you

805
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 1: gotta told July fourth.

806
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: In a week. So you met somebody this week?

807
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: You mean somebody this week. We pray for it.

808
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: Well, you a beautiful, spiritual, talented young woman, and that's coming.

809
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: I feel it's coming. It is. Thank you so much.

810
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: Two of the last things we do is we ask

811
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: our guests what I'm going through and what I'm growing through.

812
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: Okay, can you.

813
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: Share with us something that you may be going through

814
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: just to inspire people in this season.

815
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: I think what I'm going through is I've been going

816
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 2: through losing my siblings. And that's a tough one because

817
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: it started off with seven of us and now it's

818
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 2: only three. And I lost my brother a couple of

819
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: months ago, and all of a sudden, it just hit me.

820
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: I'm seventy years old. I can't believe it, and well,

821
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: thank you, but you know it comes that time. It's

822
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 2: that time of life life and that I'm going through

823
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 2: it and I'm growing through it because what I decided

824
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 2: is that the two that I have left, I'm gonna

825
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: make a lot of time and I'm gonna spend the

826
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 2: time with them and not let so much time pass

827
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: because I've been negligent with trying to see my my family,

828
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: and now I'm sad because my brother's gone and I

829
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: haven't spent as much time. But that's what I'm growing through,

830
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 2: you know. It's just trying to pray and not be

831
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: sad about it.

832
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: Yes, tough, It is tough. Angie has shared with me

833
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: about your brother, Yeah, said, I was at her house

834
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: one day and I don't know what, maybe I was

835
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: about to start up here to something, but she would

836
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: show me how on the video, like on the camera

837
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 1: that she can see him, and I literally started crying. Yeah,

838
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: and she's like, I was like, oh, I was like,

839
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm sorry, but like, just know, even

840
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: my dad is seventy seventy one now seventy one, and

841
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: knowing that life is fleeting, and like I want to

842
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: spend as much time with him as I can, you know. Yeah,

843
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 1: And that even that and what she's going through has

844
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: showed me I've got to make the most of these years.

845
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: You got to make the most of those years. And

846
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: like her dad is, you know, I want to say

847
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 2: he's like seventy seven, but he's blind and you know,

848
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: there's a lot of health issues. So he was just

849
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: at my house yesterday. That's that's how I'm growing, is

850
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: to have him over Sunday, Jacuzzie in the pool and

851
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 2: we have barbecue and you know, and I'm gonna make

852
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 2: the best of the time that i have left with it.

853
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 2: I love that.

854
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: Love That's amazing. Thank you so much.

855
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: This was wonderful. Yes.

856
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: So we do a thing called keep it Blank, sweety,

857
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: keep it blank, where we keep filling the blank. Right,

858
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: So I'm going to say, keep it pushing, sweetie, because

859
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: no matter what life throws that, you just got to

860
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: keep going. Right. How would you feel in the bank?

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Speaker 2: I think I would say keep it moving, which is

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Speaker 2: kind of the same thing, you know, like, keep moving

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Speaker 2: no matter what's going on in your life. It's too

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Speaker 2: shall pass.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I love that. Thank you so much, Tina. Th Guys,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for tuning in to this episode

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Speaker 1: Yes, all right, make sure you guys tap in with

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Speaker 1: miss Tina. Guys, thank you so much for tuning into

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Speaker 1: this episode. In the meantime in between time you know

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Speaker 1: what to do. Keep it positive, sweetie,