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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, March Night, twenty twenty two, Season seventeen,
Speaker 1: episode number one oh seven. Welcome to the latest edition
Speaker 1: of The Break. We're live from the SWBC Mortgage studios
Speaker 1: at the Star and Day. We're talking franchise tags, we're
Speaker 1: talking free agency. We're talking about all the things that
Speaker 1: go into creating an NFL football team, and the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are sitting at the cusp of it. Next week it
Speaker 1: begins in earnest, and we'll talk about all that. We're
Speaker 1: gonna go to the fullest of free agents and get
Speaker 1: everybody's opinions on what they think is going to happen,
Speaker 1: what they think should happen, because those two things don't
Speaker 1: always match up? Does it? Does it begin in earnest
Speaker 1: because we cover the Cowboys. I'm just saying, you're good,
Speaker 1: Poy I'm just saying, it's a long it's a long
Speaker 1: month of doing deals and signing guys. Yeah, and and
Speaker 1: and by the way, if you're expecting the Cowboys to
Speaker 1: jump in next week and be signing guys that don't
Speaker 1: already haven't already won a star, you probably might want
Speaker 1: to kind of kind of just get some good perspectives.
Speaker 1: Seeing a lot of Bobby Wagner questions and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: do you guys follow this team? What are we doing here?
Speaker 1: It's funny. Right before the show, Nick, Nick and I
Speaker 1: were talking and I was kind of like, man, kind
Speaker 1: of we'd like, kind of like to see Bobby Wagner
Speaker 1: in a cowboy uniform. That would be real good. But
Speaker 1: it was Dan Quinn. He's doing that too. He's like,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe Dan, maybe Dan can make it happen. We
Speaker 1: can sit here and complain till our faces turned blue.
Speaker 1: But if the DC wants him, yeah maybe maybe maybe big,
Speaker 1: maybe big maybe. All right, let's let's jump in. I
Speaker 1: do want to talk first about the franchise tag Dalton
Speaker 1: Schultz gets franchised. First of all, you guys tell me why,
Speaker 1: why why did they end up having the franchise, Because
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of people out there,
Speaker 1: if you listen to sports talk radio, you watch the
Speaker 1: sports shows, you watch even the fans talking about it
Speaker 1: on Twitter. I think a lot of people are like,
Speaker 1: why would the Cowboys use the franchise tag on Dalton Schultz.
Speaker 1: I don't have answers. I got an answer they I
Speaker 1: think they thought that they were over a barrel, to
Speaker 1: be honest with you, I mean, it's ironic. You asked
Speaker 1: me about Blake Jarwin last week, and I think they've
Speaker 1: known this for a little while. It escaped media attention
Speaker 1: for a minute. Blake Jarwin is not a guarantee to
Speaker 1: be ready to play next year. Like, this is a
Speaker 1: really awful injury that he's going to be dealing with.
Speaker 1: I don't think they can count on him. I think
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to write his career off, but I
Speaker 1: think he's going to be up against it to like
Speaker 1: come back and play football at like a professional level. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: this is a big injury. It's a big deal. So
Speaker 1: you lose him and the guys behind him, or Sean
Speaker 1: mccun and Ian Bunting, and maybe they bring back Jeremy Sprinkle.
Speaker 1: But again, that's not something you can count on, and
Speaker 1: tight end has been an important part of this offense.
Speaker 1: Stack has a great relationship with Dalton Schultz. Call him
Speaker 1: a safety net, calm, whatever you want. But I think
Speaker 1: they were like, we can't afford to have nothing. Say
Speaker 1: what you will about whatever they might do with Amari Cooper,
Speaker 1: but they can find other options there. They've got Ceedee Lamb,
Speaker 1: They're trying to bring back Michael Gallup. They don't have
Speaker 1: anything if they don't have Dalton Schultz, and so I
Speaker 1: think that kind of forced their hand a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's the cheapest option to get a quality tight end,
Speaker 1: I mean, other than really, because you don't know about
Speaker 1: the draft, you don't know who you're going to get
Speaker 1: and win. I mean, Jason Witten was the best time
Speaker 1: idea the Cowboys have ever had. It took him, you know,
Speaker 1: for his rookie yeary wasn't much of you know, he
Speaker 1: was a pretty good player, but he still was a backup.
Speaker 1: So my point is that, you know, he's probably going
Speaker 1: to make more than that on the open market, Like
Speaker 1: I think he would have made more than I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'll go as far as to say, yeah, definitely, thirteen
Speaker 1: fourteen was being discussed. Who knows if he gets that
Speaker 1: now the cap number would have been less. Let's Beau
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys are going to try to do something
Speaker 1: like that, but um, you know, to try to probably
Speaker 1: sign him to a longer term deal. I would think.
Speaker 1: I don't think this is a prove it year for him.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think they can carry that eleven
Speaker 1: million dollar number for that long, so I think they
Speaker 1: would like to get a different deal. But you know,
Speaker 1: my only question about Schultz is do we know that
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz is really a good tight end without the
Speaker 1: double teams that Amari Cooper and Seedee Lamb have commanded
Speaker 1: on the outside. Do we know that? Because if he's
Speaker 1: like the main guy, the main focus, I mean, this
Speaker 1: isn't Travis Kelcey running a round that you have the
Speaker 1: game plan for. I don't believe. Yeah, no, that's that's
Speaker 1: gonna be the tricky part. I've seen all the stuff
Speaker 1: on Twitter, and I don't know if I disagree. Well,
Speaker 1: he doesn't block, well, he doesn't get any you know,
Speaker 1: yards after kits. I mean, what does he do? He's
Speaker 1: just guys that catches the ball and takes advantage of
Speaker 1: the scheme. True. Is that worth eleven million? We're gonna
Speaker 1: find out. Well, I think so. And again, well, I
Speaker 1: think their hand was forced a little bit here, like
Speaker 1: I said, and I think their logic not saying I
Speaker 1: completely agree with it. I think I've said as many
Speaker 1: times as I can that I think it would be
Speaker 1: lunacy to cut Amari Cooper. But to Nick's point, I mean,
Speaker 1: something's got to give at some point. They just added
Speaker 1: an eleven million dollar charge on top of already being
Speaker 1: over the salary cap. They did restructure Dak and Zach
Speaker 1: to create twenty two million, they're still over as far
Speaker 1: as I know, because I thought how much were they
Speaker 1: over before? They were seventeen to twenty over? And you
Speaker 1: add eleven on top of the head. Oh you're saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: with eleven in the twenty two you still they still
Speaker 1: have work to do. Yeah. Um. But so what I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, so, I think that would be dumb.
Speaker 1: I don't think they should cut Amari Cooper. If anything,
Speaker 1: I think they should restructure him and push some of
Speaker 1: his money into the future. But I can see a
Speaker 1: logic in their minds where they're like, well, we can
Speaker 1: we can recreate our receiver corps that is more doable.
Speaker 1: We can sign Michael Gallop to a team friendly deal.
Speaker 1: We've got Ceedee Lamb. There's freak receivers in the draft
Speaker 1: every year. We can find a guy in the top
Speaker 1: three rounds that can step in and play right away,
Speaker 1: and maybe sign a cheap veteran to go on top
Speaker 1: of that, kind of like what they did with Alan
Speaker 1: Hearns or somebody like a Brown. Is it No, Noah
Speaker 1: Brown is not that? No offense to him. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: proud of that guy. Man. He's he's about to start.
Speaker 1: He's he's gonna get his NFL pension out of being
Speaker 1: a seventh round draft pick. Good for him. But I
Speaker 1: think that they think it's by four years he said
Speaker 1: four words, I mean like, but it's worked. They can
Speaker 1: never not Kaman's hustle, you know. I think that they
Speaker 1: think that they can recreate their receiver corps a little
Speaker 1: bit more easily than they can find a serviceable tight end.
Speaker 1: Because you think about Dalton Schultz, it took him two
Speaker 1: years to be a useful player. And unless you're drafting
Speaker 1: a Kyle Pitts or a t J. Hockinson, who are
Speaker 1: top ten picks you're not getting that guy in the draft.
Speaker 1: It's very rare to find a tight end who can
Speaker 1: step in and be useful right away unless you're using
Speaker 1: a big, big pick on him. So that's what I
Speaker 1: was going to ask you about the draft, because I
Speaker 1: know tight end is not a position that I've really
Speaker 1: heard people talk about in just in general and also
Speaker 1: tying it back to the Cowboys, and I haven't looked
Speaker 1: at the free agency list of around the NFL, but
Speaker 1: there are no really is there not a name tight
Speaker 1: ends have been franchise at this point like that? That
Speaker 1: was the interesting thing to me. There's the third besides
Speaker 1: in Joku and Dalton. Sorry, I'm putting you on the
Speaker 1: spot trying to remember who it was hold on let
Speaker 1: me think, yeah, but I mean and then and a
Speaker 1: lot of that goes to the fact that it's it's
Speaker 1: not a huge number. I know, it sounds like it
Speaker 1: is eleven million, but for the franchise tag, not by
Speaker 1: NFL standardly not. Yeah, so that that it kind of
Speaker 1: makes more sense. And that's probably what Travis Kelsey and
Speaker 1: George Kittle and those guys would like to see happening.
Speaker 1: Is just sure right that room which Mike. Mike Gasecki
Speaker 1: is the third, which and I bet he feels some
Speaker 1: type of way about it because he's barely a tight end.
Speaker 1: He's I mean, he's one of the he's a you know,
Speaker 1: he's the Jimmy Graham split off the line way more
Speaker 1: often than he's in line doing stuff. The I mean,
Speaker 1: the list is of an Ingram, not Jimmy Graham. I mean,
Speaker 1: let's don't put Gasecki into Jimmy Graham. He's more Evan Engram.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not comparing their skill set. I know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, but yeah, Jimmy, he had a
Speaker 1: pretty good year this time did Yeah, Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: he hasn't. I mean Jimmy Graham like, yeah, yeah, changing,
Speaker 1: he was changing, trying to change rules and stuff. You
Speaker 1: got Zach Ertz, who at this point is more player,
Speaker 1: more name than player. Jimmy Graham is definitely more name
Speaker 1: than player. Rob Gronkowski lives in his own world, Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know that he wants to play,
Speaker 1: you know, That's what I'm saying. You don't know if
Speaker 1: he wants to play, And even if he does, he's
Speaker 1: like he's just gonna sign where he wants to. He
Speaker 1: doesn't need the money, He doesn't any of that stuff.
Speaker 1: Eric Ebron, who's more name than player C j Ozoma,
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati guy who got hurt, right he did get hurt.
Speaker 1: Ebron does interest me, and I also think he'll command
Speaker 1: a pretty big deal if I had to guess as well,
Speaker 1: because things I've heard suggest that Ebron is a much
Speaker 1: better block than any guy they got on this roster,
Speaker 1: which I think that's the part they've been missing in
Speaker 1: their in their tight end room for a long time,
Speaker 1: like they have not had a good block or maybe
Speaker 1: since martellis Um And I think they really should invest
Speaker 1: in one of those. So if Ebron could be that
Speaker 1: for them, that's a nice guy to kind of literally doing.
Speaker 1: Here it's over, I mean, if they're still gonna need
Speaker 1: another tight end, right yeah, but not eric Ron. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: is Hebron at the point where he's just like going
Speaker 1: to break the bank? I don't think so he'll be
Speaker 1: worth enough money that I doubt that they really Yeah, see,
Speaker 1: I look at Hebron as one of those guys kind
Speaker 1: of like the kinds guys they bring in, like a
Speaker 1: Carlos Watkins kind of towards the end of his career,
Speaker 1: you could probably get him for or actually, let's talk
Speaker 1: about this in two weeks when that's when they're gonna start.
Speaker 1: You see who's left. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: they like who they like. They like Noah Brown. We
Speaker 1: just talked about Noah Brown. They like Sean McEwen. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you shouldn't because everything we've ever seen
Speaker 1: out of him seems like, oh, okay, they like guys
Speaker 1: they don't have to spend money on. We can say it.
Speaker 1: It's fine, Well everybody does that. I mean like they've spent,
Speaker 1: they spend They spend enough money over the cape, spending money,
Speaker 1: Like right, yeah, they're spending money. I don't think the
Speaker 1: money is the issue. I don't think the spending money
Speaker 1: is the issue. They got they got high profile guys
Speaker 1: and right now, like I heard some some people talking
Speaker 1: about this is like did the window close on the
Speaker 1: Cowboys because they didn't win with Dak contract the way
Speaker 1: it was. But I mean, your two best defensive players
Speaker 1: are sitting there probably making a combine two million dollars.
Speaker 1: So get it done, because I promise you next year,
Speaker 1: Well no, not next year. I was thinking this two years.
Speaker 1: Digs will Yeah, that'll be interesting. We'll see what As
Speaker 1: long as Trayvon doesn't fall off a cliff, he's probably
Speaker 1: gonna have something to say about that gets in the
Speaker 1: range of you know, even six, seven, you know, interceptions
Speaker 1: or something like, they don't have to do that. Eleven
Speaker 1: is crazy. That ain't gonna happen again. I say that
Speaker 1: even he could finish with four. And then he'll say,
Speaker 1: I have eighteen interceptions in my first three years. Give
Speaker 1: me money now, Yeah, let's go and and I this
Speaker 1: one's gonna happen next year. This is my prediction on
Speaker 1: Mica right now. Mike is like, right, I'll do this,
Speaker 1: I'll play this, I'll play linebacker, I'll play edge, whatever
Speaker 1: you want to do, you know, And then he'll get
Speaker 1: another twelve thirteen sacks and a lot of them will
Speaker 1: be coming from the outside, and his agent'll be talking,
Speaker 1: all right, your third year, let's be a defensive end,
Speaker 1: because the franchise tag for defensive ends and linebackers is different. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't be surprised if that conversation happens. That is,
Speaker 1: it's a wonderful point. Going back to Mike Kasecki. He's like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm basically a receiver and y'all are tagging me as
Speaker 1: an end. Cowboys are gonna be like, yeah, well, you're
Speaker 1: getting the fifth year option as a linebacker, sir, not
Speaker 1: as a pass rusher, but doing that. But then my
Speaker 1: thought would be, well, then go beat Treyvon Diggs. Then
Speaker 1: go beat Treyvon Diggs every single play, because I bet
Speaker 1: you you're not doing that. I bet you you're You're
Speaker 1: beating that hybrid role and you're beating some corners, but
Speaker 1: you're also beating tight ends as well. You know. I
Speaker 1: just that's that's part of That's something they're probably gonna
Speaker 1: have to at some point address because there are lots
Speaker 1: of roles in the NFL that are now becoming hybrids,
Speaker 1: and so it's not as simple as just saying, well,
Speaker 1: you get to tag at this position, because there are
Speaker 1: players that play multiple positions based upon kind of how
Speaker 1: the team utilizes them. All Right, real quick, what happens
Speaker 1: with with I guess Blake at this point? Are they
Speaker 1: gonna are they on the hook for his contract? Are
Speaker 1: they gonna maybe would would you look at the option
Speaker 1: of maybe cutting him? Is at even a possibility. What
Speaker 1: do they do at this point with Blake Jarwin for
Speaker 1: the money that they have sunk man, You have heard
Speaker 1: some of this. I did, and I probably had a
Speaker 1: ten minute conversation about Blake Jarwin and still don't understand it.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit different. But he's got options. He No,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a lot of options. Um, cowboys have options. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have options. It's probably going to be a
Speaker 1: reduction or a cut, I think, But because he's injured
Speaker 1: and needs to rehab, it's one of those things he
Speaker 1: kind of has to bet on himself. That's way I
Speaker 1: took it. If there's an injury protection program, if he's released,
Speaker 1: he can make I think two million dollars. But if
Speaker 1: he bets on himself to say, hey, I'm gonna play
Speaker 1: and try to work this thing back at and it
Speaker 1: doesn't ever happen, then he screws himself out of that money.
Speaker 1: So I think what will happen is is they may
Speaker 1: rework his deal or maybe even release him and then
Speaker 1: resign him, keep him back, keep much reduced and so
Speaker 1: he can rehab here. We all know what they think
Speaker 1: of the rehab guys here, and that will probably be
Speaker 1: what happens, but they're going to have to get some
Speaker 1: of that money. But at this point, why not just
Speaker 1: cut him? Because and I and I lie, I've always
Speaker 1: been a fan of Blake Jarwin and I've seen his potential,
Speaker 1: but it's been unfortunate. I feel like, what this would
Speaker 1: be the third year where he's like affective but some
Speaker 1: kind of injury that has left him out of the field.
Speaker 1: So at this point, it's like it just feels that
Speaker 1: you're simply and it's sad to say, but you're simply
Speaker 1: not gonna get much out of him even if he
Speaker 1: recovers from this, right. I think it's it's a thing
Speaker 1: teams do with players they have relationships that they like
Speaker 1: they're going to get some of his money back by
Speaker 1: hook or by crook, Like they're just they're not just
Speaker 1: gonna let that sit there. But you know, say, hey,
Speaker 1: absolutely give this a go, try to rehab this injury.
Speaker 1: We'll keep you here, we'll take care of you. We
Speaker 1: don't just want to throw you out on the street.
Speaker 1: Kind of the right thing to do, Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and that tends to happen with guys that they've built
Speaker 1: relations with. I mean, Blake and his wife live here
Speaker 1: in the area. I mean, that's very common with players,
Speaker 1: so they'll they'll find a way to get some of
Speaker 1: that money back. But you're not just like, oh, sorry,
Speaker 1: go do something else. You're out of here. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess all right, We're gonna take our first break and
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Speaker 1: got a whole list of guys that Cowboys have our
Speaker 1: hat on their roster last year that will become free
Speaker 1: agents next week, and we'll have you guys answer the
Speaker 1: question what do you want to happen and what do
Speaker 1: you think actually happens. We'll do that when we come
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna break some news that you guys probably have
Speaker 1: not heard. Wrestle and he is coming to a T
Speaker 1: ANDC stadium No way, Yes, yes, two days, two day events,
Speaker 1: shocking April second, April third. Do you guys know where
Speaker 1: you could get tickets? No? Oh, there we go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so no one does listen to these reads. All right,
Speaker 1: so maybe I really should read all rights coming to Wrestle. Sure,
Speaker 1: Dave's going, you going, I don't know thinking about it.
Speaker 1: Those are pretty yeah, but but you know it's gonna
Speaker 1: be stupidous. It's gonna be stupidous. I heard stone Colds
Speaker 1: coming back Stone Colts supposed to Stone Colds wrestling at
Speaker 1: this wrestle wrestling or just drinking a bees wrestling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he accepted somebody's offer to fight. I don't remember the
Speaker 1: guy's name. Oh yeah, it was all over heard by
Speaker 1: today and I've never heard of the guy. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean I saw that. It was like, I've
Speaker 1: never heard of this guy before, but I heard we're
Speaker 1: old Fogies Rock. Is he coming back the Rock? Think so?
Speaker 1: Think he's busy with football. Can I like get in
Speaker 1: advance so I can buy the tickets? I don't know
Speaker 1: what if I give you tickets, n let's go. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'll be there if I don't have to pay for it,
Speaker 1: for sure. Well, but if you did have to pay
Speaker 1: for it, I'm sure geek dot com would be very
Speaker 1: good and helping you get that if you'd not Yeah
Speaker 1: to the point where your boss are just gonna hand
Speaker 1: you tickets. Because the biggest question is Roman Reins, not
Speaker 1: even not even is Bad Bunny gonna be there? Do
Speaker 1: you even know who Bad Bunny? Of course I know
Speaker 1: who Bad Bunny, but he just he just played at
Speaker 1: the AAC like two weeks ago. Once he coming back,
Speaker 1: he played at American Airlines like within the last month.
Speaker 1: He said, yes, he well, he has a concert that's
Speaker 1: gonna be at AT and T Stadium other than that one,
Speaker 1: so he's coming back to the Dallas again. It's a
Speaker 1: big end, a big jump to play eight American Airlines
Speaker 1: and then go and play it eight. I mean AT
Speaker 1: and T. If what I'm standing he can pack both. Clearly.
Speaker 1: If if you can pack the AT and T, you
Speaker 1: could probably pay. But I'm saying like he'd do like
Speaker 1: a he got that kind of following where he just like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sign up as many shows that sell out.
Speaker 1: That's I think that's what Garth Brooks does. He's like
Speaker 1: one night, two nights, three nights. The fourth night didn't
Speaker 1: sell out, so okay, I do four nights and that's
Speaker 1: it rilla until they don't sell out anymore. That's but
Speaker 1: smaller venues like that, they'll just do the one. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for them to use for him to be
Speaker 1: on Wrestle. He does wrestle too, so please do well.
Speaker 1: It's a two night event. I mean, I gaed they
Speaker 1: could squeeze him in. It's one of the one of
Speaker 1: the Yeah, he fought the miss and WrestleMania thirty seven.
Speaker 1: You mean from road Rules or something, Yeah, the mis
Speaker 1: he was the Real World, actually real World, the World
Speaker 1: ten New York. Um, I know that said ten. I
Speaker 1: think it was okay. I think I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna lick that out. Oh crap, don't I hope I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: I really hope I'm wrong. I'm not about to say
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't necessarily want to be Yeah,
Speaker 1: the guy that knows everything. That's one of those shows.
Speaker 1: Everyone's got their show that they're not proud of watching.
Speaker 1: I I would watch the road Rules and Real World
Speaker 1: Challenge and stuff like that. When wants that that's one
Speaker 1: what okay? Big Brother? Like seriously, I'm not a shade
Speaker 1: of Big Brother. I got Dave booked on Big Brother
Speaker 1: because it's a good show. All right, let's talk about
Speaker 1: that Cowboys Nation and we're talking about real World Mike.
Speaker 1: His name was Mike, Mike. All right, let's talk free agency.
Speaker 1: Let's talk for Are we gonna talk about Amari quick? Yeah? Sure,
Speaker 1: what do you want to talk? I mean, and before
Speaker 1: we jumped into into the whole list of free agent
Speaker 1: guys and all that. I mean, I just get so
Speaker 1: I'm giving the problem is I'm coming off our Spanish
Speaker 1: show on so almost and everybody on there this agrees
Speaker 1: with me. So I'm just like, oh uh no, you
Speaker 1: guys are wrong. No, it's just like they're gonna be
Speaker 1: fine with Amari Cooper and sure they're gonna survive. But
Speaker 1: my thing is without without sorry sorry sorry, yeah, without
Speaker 1: And this week I've been hearing it from so many
Speaker 1: other people just kind of voicing their opinion and how
Speaker 1: screwed Basically the Cowboys are gonna be with how if
Speaker 1: they do, in fact decide to cut Amari Cooper and
Speaker 1: what you are left with a wide receiver and what
Speaker 1: you're gonna do with your offense, that's gonna be a
Speaker 1: complete change. So I just want I want one of
Speaker 1: you to make it make sense and see, like, what
Speaker 1: what is this team gonna look like really without a
Speaker 1: guy like a Mark Cooper on the team. And even
Speaker 1: if you're like drafting a wide receiver, which I know
Speaker 1: you guys have been mentioning on the Draft show and
Speaker 1: all that, they're multiple guys, but what what like somebody's
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna be better with that. I
Speaker 1: really don't. They believe that they can, but they also believe,
Speaker 1: you know, it'll be cheaper, and then that's what they'd
Speaker 1: rather put those resources on. The tight end. Like David mentioned,
Speaker 1: it's easier to fix that safety and all that. I
Speaker 1: just I think Amari Cooper is one of the top
Speaker 1: receivers in the NFL. He doesn't play to the level
Speaker 1: of his contract, and that's the issue. But you know,
Speaker 1: if he's willing to work on the deal and restructure,
Speaker 1: which it sounds like he is, then I just don't
Speaker 1: understand this. I really can't see why they would do this.
Speaker 1: Here's my thing. I think you look across the NFL,
Speaker 1: look at all the teams that were in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: If the Cowboys have ceedee lamb, if they can get
Speaker 1: Gallop resigned, which it sounds like that's on track, and
Speaker 1: they probably will end up doing that. And in a
Speaker 1: and Dave can speak to this. This seems to be
Speaker 1: a draft where you've got plenty of wide receivers that
Speaker 1: you could select first round, second round, maybe even third round,
Speaker 1: that can jump in and play for you Day one.
Speaker 1: That wide receiver corps is good enough for you to
Speaker 1: be competitive next year. That won't be the reason why
Speaker 1: you're not successful in my opinion. So are they gonna
Speaker 1: be better when you lose a guy like Amari Cooper?
Speaker 1: Probably not. And you are betting on the fact that
Speaker 1: this draft pick is all of a sudden gonna be
Speaker 1: able to play in the NFL. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: ifs in there. All I'm saying is I don't think
Speaker 1: that that becomes a situation if those three things play
Speaker 1: out where you got CD Gallop and you've got this
Speaker 1: draft pick that's a first or second round pick, maybe
Speaker 1: third round pick, that you won't be able to compete,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be looking at like, man, these receivers
Speaker 1: just suck. I can't do anything. You've got what you
Speaker 1: consider to be a star wide receiver that was a
Speaker 1: first round draft pick. That's the Green Bay Packers. They
Speaker 1: got one receiver. He's really really good. Now I'm not
Speaker 1: saying CD's that, but you kind of want to find
Speaker 1: out if he can be that. So all I'm saying
Speaker 1: is Ohl is with the Packers. Yeah, that's not my point.
Speaker 1: My point is still you look at the wide receiver corps.
Speaker 1: This is not a wide receiver Cord at that point
Speaker 1: that you look like look at and say they don't
Speaker 1: have any talent at wide receiver. They got they will
Speaker 1: have talent at wide receiver. The question still becomes, can
Speaker 1: this offensive line block can Da do what he's supposed
Speaker 1: to do? Can tell him more call the right plays
Speaker 1: like That's more the issue in my opinion than the
Speaker 1: wide receivers will be if you don't have a Mariy
Speaker 1: on this team. I guess, I just. I mean, you
Speaker 1: talk about all the teams that went deep in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: they all have pretty badass groups of pass catchers. I
Speaker 1: mean the Bengals, Yes, the Bengals, Yes, the Bengals. The
Speaker 1: Rams had Woods and Cup at the start of the season,
Speaker 1: went and got Beckham. It's a pretty nice little group.
Speaker 1: The Niners have. The Niners have deebo Iyuk and George Kittle,
Speaker 1: who's like the best pass catching tight end other than Kelsey.
Speaker 1: Let's let's slow down the receivers. But I Yuk is
Speaker 1: not a great wide receiver. He is a good wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Gallop Yeah, I think. So let's see, you need like
Speaker 1: a great of you need car three of these guys,
Speaker 1: And that's my way Mike McCarthy should should sign off
Speaker 1: on this the like he has to maybe sign off
Speaker 1: on it, But I bet you he's not happy about
Speaker 1: it because we all know that if if this doesn't
Speaker 1: go well for the Cowboys, if they don't, if they
Speaker 1: don't if they do the exact same thing that this year,
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll be the coach next year. Everyone
Speaker 1: knows that, Okay, So how can he be excited about this?
Speaker 1: He's got Ceedee Lamb has never proven he could be
Speaker 1: really a number one, but he's gonna have to be
Speaker 1: because that's his role. Michael Gallup's gonna probably start the
Speaker 1: year on pup. I can't imagine him being ready. I don't.
Speaker 1: I hope that's not true, but he got You have
Speaker 1: to at least consider it as a possibility. So then
Speaker 1: now you got to draft a receiver, even if you
Speaker 1: draft twenty four, even if you draft in the first round,
Speaker 1: that there's no guarantee that that guy's going to be
Speaker 1: ready to go. So you're you're hoping that all this
Speaker 1: is better this year, and if it doesn't, you're out.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, that all being said,
Speaker 1: and seeing how all you guys feel about this, why
Speaker 1: do you think the Cowboys, if reports are accurate, why
Speaker 1: do you think they are so hell bent on He's
Speaker 1: not going to be here then? Because they want to
Speaker 1: do it their way. They want to, they want to,
Speaker 1: I mean, they don't want to pay that number, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm so sick of hearing about it.
Speaker 1: I'm so oh, is he playing worth twenty million? Mike
Speaker 1: Williams just got twenty million a year yesterday, twenty eight
Speaker 1: guaranteed upfront. He's a much better receiver. The cap is
Speaker 1: exploding and players are getting more expensive. I'm sick of
Speaker 1: hearing about it. So you pay for it or you don't.
Speaker 1: I don't give a damn if it's twenty million dollars,
Speaker 1: like that's what it costs to have a good receiver.
Speaker 1: But just then, is the money even really the issue,
Speaker 1: because it's because it goes hand in hand. They probably,
Speaker 1: But my point is they probably. I would guess, And
Speaker 1: this is a guess. This is not something I'm basing
Speaker 1: on something else. This is a guess I would guess
Speaker 1: if they went to a Mari and said, hey, we'd
Speaker 1: really like to restructure your contract and we'd like to
Speaker 1: give you a little less money. Maybe get it down
Speaker 1: to sixteen fourteen. I'm guessing there's a conversation to be
Speaker 1: had there. Maybe they don't come to a conclusion that
Speaker 1: actually works, but I'm guessing there's a conversation. So is
Speaker 1: money really the issue here? Is what I'm asking. I
Speaker 1: think it goes hand in hand, and I absolutely think
Speaker 1: which is ironic. Like all of the things that make
Speaker 1: Amari amar, he's a reserved guy. He's a worldly guy.
Speaker 1: He reads all the time, he plays chess, he's got
Speaker 1: interests outside of football. He's not this alpha personality. It's
Speaker 1: really refreshing when you get rid of Dez Bryan and
Speaker 1: bring that in one. But what's what go ahead? Wait, no,
Speaker 1: you're right, but you also skipped another thing that maybe
Speaker 1: as a factor. Maybe it isn't the vaccination. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: worth ment. No, I mean we I say, like, okay,
Speaker 1: I hope it's not. But I mean it doesn't. It
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. It doesn't make any sense. And that's
Speaker 1: that's that's that point, David. But no, I don't think
Speaker 1: they're like, this guy's not vaccinated, we can't he can't
Speaker 1: stay here. Because also, by the way, the league just
Speaker 1: got rid of all those rules anyway, it's a non factor. Now.
Speaker 1: I don't think that helped, and I don't have to guess.
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones called him out publicly in the middle of
Speaker 1: the season. He said, this is a wee thing. It's
Speaker 1: not a me thing. You check me at the door.
Speaker 1: He said that on the radio. So it's clearly something
Speaker 1: that frustrated them. He missed two games because of it,
Speaker 1: and during a time of the year when they were struggling.
Speaker 1: And then add that onto the fact of like you know,
Speaker 1: he was, he was Amari was fresh in the home
Speaker 1: stretch of the year. He said it himself, he was like,
Speaker 1: I wish I had more opportunities to get the ball.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think I think the elements of his
Speaker 1: personality that, like I said, it's ironic. We found it
Speaker 1: so refreshing three or four years ago. I think it
Speaker 1: wears on people. I think it wears on football people.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a coincidence. John Gruden was desperate
Speaker 1: to get him out of there, because that is like
Speaker 1: the antithesis of John Gruden. Like John Gruden wants you
Speaker 1: to guzzle motor oil and just eat nails and talk
Speaker 1: about football twenty four hours a day, and there are
Speaker 1: a lot of people in this league where if that's
Speaker 1: not what you're about, like, get the hell out of here.
Speaker 1: I don't have time for that. And that also brings
Speaker 1: me back to what I was trying to get to
Speaker 1: is do you think that maybe I personally don't think
Speaker 1: he would be released because he didn't get vaccinated. I
Speaker 1: do think that maybe him not getting vaccinated is just
Speaker 1: another example if maybe this is the case where maybe
Speaker 1: there's a feeling that he's not as much a team
Speaker 1: guy as they want him to be, right, you think
Speaker 1: that maybe that's more and maybe the money isn't like
Speaker 1: the money is the red herring, but really it's it's
Speaker 1: really more to this story than just the money and
Speaker 1: the guys over there were poke holes in some of
Speaker 1: this game on the field, but I think it's more
Speaker 1: nitpicking from the first part of it. But I mean,
Speaker 1: we can argue this all day, but I'm actually tired
Speaker 1: of hearing the part about I'm already missed two games
Speaker 1: because he wasn't vaccinated. I don't believe that that isn't
Speaker 1: that's not accurate because people are forgetting the read Okay,
Speaker 1: he got COVID, that happened people get COVID, You get COVID. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe you wouldn't have missed the first game against the
Speaker 1: Chiefs because you wouldn't have been tested every day. But
Speaker 1: he still had COVID and he had symptoms. So if
Speaker 1: you have sitting the hold on me finish, if you
Speaker 1: have symptoms, then you have to get tested for it.
Speaker 1: And then it just so happened that they played a
Speaker 1: game four days later, So he got COVID before the
Speaker 1: Chiefs game. Doesn't matter if he's vaccinated, he's not playing
Speaker 1: the Raiders. Yes, but that also ignores the fact the
Speaker 1: science that the percentage chance of getting COVID when you're
Speaker 1: vaccinated is less. So not that that's fact, that is science, Nick,
Speaker 1: That is that is suck. They have statistics set back
Speaker 1: and say that people who have been vaccinated have a
Speaker 1: lower percentage chance of getting of getting COVID. Like that was,
Speaker 1: that was something that was tested and verified. Okay, a
Speaker 1: lot of vaccinated people got sick. Absolutely chance, But either way,
Speaker 1: whatever I think that's like looking at it now, regardless
Speaker 1: of it, it sounds very ridiculous from my perspective that
Speaker 1: that would be the reason as to making a big
Speaker 1: change like this when you're trying to get to the
Speaker 1: super Bowl, do this and that there's no way that's
Speaker 1: just it. So in my opinion, there has to be
Speaker 1: something more. And if he was to get caught and
Speaker 1: it happens, I feel like maybe we'll start hearing something
Speaker 1: else kind of popping out, like this was actually going
Speaker 1: on behind But the I'm saying, I think that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm not saying it was the vaccination. I'm
Speaker 1: saying that was the vaccination, just one more sign of
Speaker 1: other things that make that make maybe make them say
Speaker 1: he's not as much of a team guy. So we've seen,
Speaker 1: we've played hurt. Does he play hurt? Yes, plays hurt
Speaker 1: a lot. He there was a time he didn't. Wasn't
Speaker 1: that I say, I'm I'm pretty sure thing about the
Speaker 1: right guy. But let's speak. But this guy plays, he does, he'll,
Speaker 1: he'll he'll get the little gun and he'll put it
Speaker 1: on this and go out there and run. When you're
Speaker 1: it's never one thing, it's that's part of it. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think that it creates questions about buying.
Speaker 1: But I always I think that stuff is always in
Speaker 1: a convenient excuse when you're already frustrated, like he missed
Speaker 1: two games and and he only had seventy eight catches
Speaker 1: this year, And I look at it, is he finishing
Speaker 1: this block as well as he could be? What was
Speaker 1: he doing on? And like you're just coming up with
Speaker 1: reasons and knocking yourself into it. Yeah, And that's and
Speaker 1: that's just where we are. And all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it's like infallible logic that this is what you should
Speaker 1: do it on. I mean, for opposite reasons. It happened
Speaker 1: with Dez too, if you go back, if you think
Speaker 1: about it, it's like, well he's been hurt. Is he
Speaker 1: as explosive as he used to be. That's when the
Speaker 1: reports started leaking, like Dez doesn't come to meetings. That
Speaker 1: was never a problem when he was catching sixteen touchdowns.
Speaker 1: We had heard some of the things. It was. It
Speaker 1: just doesn't but you put up with it when you
Speaker 1: feel like you're getting your investment. And then you know,
Speaker 1: he calls out Lenahan and Garrett and says they're not
Speaker 1: doing their jobs the right way. And now here we
Speaker 1: are three months later, cutting him Like it's always a
Speaker 1: snowball effect in these situations. Well, that was after that
Speaker 1: was after he got I'll let you know. I'll let
Speaker 1: you know what he what he thinks, Omori, I will
Speaker 1: you send me to the Pro Bowl next year because
Speaker 1: I'll go to the Pro Bowl. Oh yeah, he'll be there.
Speaker 1: He'll be like, tell me what team he's on. Then
Speaker 1: I'll tell you he'll be twelve hundred yard eighty eight
Speaker 1: catch guy and he'll be at the Pro Bowl and
Speaker 1: he'll be like, I don't really care what it is.
Speaker 1: I would I would have liked to be in Dallas,
Speaker 1: but it just didn't work out. Well, Hey, that was
Speaker 1: cute though, those you know, CD had a nice seventy
Speaker 1: five catches and and Gallup had forty five coming back
Speaker 1: from my inn's dreams. And so do you put anything
Speaker 1: on the fact that, like his production this year I
Speaker 1: don't think was as good as most of us would
Speaker 1: have expected. There was a year was that it not
Speaker 1: last year or a year before when he had all
Speaker 1: the struggles on the road, Like there have been times
Speaker 1: in his career where he hasn't been as consistent as
Speaker 1: you'd want him to be in That can create the
Speaker 1: sort of situation where you're like, is he really a
Speaker 1: twenty million dollar wide receiver? Do you guys put any
Speaker 1: stock in that in justice production. Let's forget about the
Speaker 1: money for a second, or or at least talk about
Speaker 1: the money in the context of amount of production that
Speaker 1: you get from him. Since what second time in his
Speaker 1: career that he hasn't had a thousand yards? Second time?
Speaker 1: The first time he was still with the Raiders. Um. No,
Speaker 1: he had had a ninety two catch eleven hundred yards
Speaker 1: season in a year when he only played with Dak
Speaker 1: for like four and a half games or whatever it
Speaker 1: was five games. No, I still think he's a great receiver.
Speaker 1: He was thirty eighth in the league in targets, and again,
Speaker 1: like I don't care about the number, like it just
Speaker 1: it is what it is. Like, is he a top
Speaker 1: five receiver? No? Is that the way the market works,
Speaker 1: where like the guy is next and it just is
Speaker 1: what it is. Yes, Mike Williams Absolutely, I absolutely think
Speaker 1: he's like one of the ten to twelve best receivers
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and and and his resume stacks up
Speaker 1: with that, and find a better way to use him.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's what I was gonna say. That's
Speaker 1: another thing. It's like you have to take into consideration
Speaker 1: some of the things that you guys have mentioned about,
Speaker 1: like maybe Kellen Moore and then the game plan of
Speaker 1: not and he wouldn't be complaining in the middle of
Speaker 1: the season that he's not getting the ball if he
Speaker 1: himself hasn't been seen how things are going down. So
Speaker 1: he knows very well and we've seen it. And also
Speaker 1: there were times where even CD Lamb wasn't getting the ball.
Speaker 1: So it's just Kellen Moore, what are you doing with them?
Speaker 1: Try to get your best players. I can't I can't believe.
Speaker 1: I can't believe. We're in a world where it's like Amari,
Speaker 1: like you gotta go, it's too much, instead of being
Speaker 1: like hey, Kellen, yeah fix it. So many of these
Speaker 1: offensive problems, we end up talking back to Kellen what's
Speaker 1: going on. So glad Ag brought up CD because again,
Speaker 1: this is a team where you had Amar and CD
Speaker 1: out there at the same time. CD caught one ball
Speaker 1: for twenty one yards in the playoff game. He was
Speaker 1: targeted five times. I guarantee you the first one didn't
Speaker 1: come until close to halftime or maybe even after halftime.
Speaker 1: He disappeared from a game that Amari was also playing,
Speaker 1: and so that doesn't do wonders for my confidence that
Speaker 1: he's just gonna ball the hell out when he's the
Speaker 1: focal point of the defensive game plan, which he will be,
Speaker 1: by the way, because Michael Gallup is hurt. And also
Speaker 1: his career high for catches is sixty six in a
Speaker 1: year we're mad about Amari catching seventy eight. Michael's is
Speaker 1: sixty six. That's his best ever. Talk about adding a
Speaker 1: rookie who maybe, you know, maybe you find a justin Jefferson,
Speaker 1: just maybe maybe you find a guy that can ball
Speaker 1: out from day one. Michael Gallup's first year, he caught
Speaker 1: thirty three passes for five hundred yards. Like that is
Speaker 1: a realistic idea of what you're getting from a rookie,
Speaker 1: unless it's like the best guy in the class. So
Speaker 1: just don't don't sell me that this is an improvement.
Speaker 1: If you insist on doing it, that's fine, But I
Speaker 1: don't have to believe it. I don't think anybody thinks.
Speaker 1: I honestly don't even think they believe it's an improved
Speaker 1: thing necessary. I think they feel like it's the way
Speaker 1: to move their team forward, because sometimes you got to
Speaker 1: make those kind of decisions when it comes to a
Speaker 1: salary cap like I don't. I honestly don't think anybody
Speaker 1: believes this is making you better. I just I don't
Speaker 1: know how you couldn't. The problem, that is the problem.
Speaker 1: That's why fans should be mad, because right now, every
Speaker 1: year that goes by, there's a number that gets attached
Speaker 1: to it. Now, that's the way. It didn't start this
Speaker 1: way when I was here. But now it's twenty six
Speaker 1: and next year it's twenty seven and twenty eight, since
Speaker 1: you've done anything, and that they don't have that sense
Speaker 1: of urgency that the fans have. Because the fans are
Speaker 1: mad because it's will so much past due and they're
Speaker 1: talking about doing things. Let's just kind of redo the
Speaker 1: receiver room. When to me, this team is close. It's
Speaker 1: right here. You're one of the top two or three
Speaker 1: teams in the NFC going into the season. You should
Speaker 1: be in the mix. Are you still without Amari Cooper?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. That's what I'm saying. You're close,
Speaker 1: You're there, You've got your quarterback, you've got your offense,
Speaker 1: you've got all the coordinators came back, put your chips in,
Speaker 1: push it to the middle. Let's do it. Let's go
Speaker 1: get the von Miller the trade, next year's trade, next
Speaker 1: year's two trade, next year's one. If you think you
Speaker 1: can go do it. This band base deserves that opportunity
Speaker 1: because they have been loyal for so long and they're
Speaker 1: pissed off, you know what, quit thinking to the future
Speaker 1: when now damn it wins, and they they're not doing it.
Speaker 1: Not only that, I don't even know if you have
Speaker 1: to push your chips all the way in. That's the
Speaker 1: frustrating thing. And I'm sorry, I don't know the number
Speaker 1: you can reach structure MARI. They've done it to everybody
Speaker 1: else in the world, but they're just like, oh, the
Speaker 1: guy that's actually lived up to his deal and I
Speaker 1: don't want to touch that money and and and the irony.
Speaker 1: And yeah, last season was disappointing by his standards, but
Speaker 1: like a, MARI is the one major deal that they've
Speaker 1: done that looks good right now, not counting Dak that's fine,
Speaker 1: but like I mean, from the moment you got to here,
Speaker 1: the offense has been clicking for the most part. Jalen disaster,
Speaker 1: Zeke borderline disaster or very much. It's not happy, it's
Speaker 1: not good right and on top on top of the
Speaker 1: diminishing returns. The way it's structured, they can't touch him
Speaker 1: and that sucks for like, they can't do anything with him,
Speaker 1: and if they restructure him, then you just push this
Speaker 1: into the future. They're up s Creek in that regard,
Speaker 1: and that's why it's gonna hurt a guy that's doing
Speaker 1: more to help the team. Lyle Collins not a disaster,
Speaker 1: but like, has not that plan panned out the way
Speaker 1: that they wanted it to. It just hasn't, and that sucks.
Speaker 1: I love Lyle as a person. It's not about our
Speaker 1: own expect yeah, that about our own expectations, though, Like
Speaker 1: we see the money and then immediately our expectations go
Speaker 1: way up. And really when the money is not necessarily
Speaker 1: an indication they're gonna be better, it just is an
Speaker 1: indication that's where the market is. I don't think so here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the money, it's just how you keep them here. Also,
Speaker 1: Lyle's no, Lyle was that was a bargain deal. That
Speaker 1: was and again like I'm not, I don't want to
Speaker 1: call that a bust just yet. It's just been disappointing
Speaker 1: relative to the expectation. But like he signed for ten
Speaker 1: million a year. That's a bargain. That was a Hey,
Speaker 1: we think you're ascending into the top flight of right tackles,
Speaker 1: and we're just gonna pay you. Now. You didn't get
Speaker 1: a big deal when you got drafted. Let's just take
Speaker 1: care of everybody. And he's sort of plateaued instead of
Speaker 1: continuing to move up. That's just it is. Essentially what
Speaker 1: you're saying is they've drafted pretty good, and free agency,
Speaker 1: even free agency when it comes to their own players,
Speaker 1: that's where they haven't been as good. They have not
Speaker 1: Zach Martin, Amari, and I'll throw Dack in there. I'm
Speaker 1: sure plenty of people disagree, but like, those are the
Speaker 1: three big deals that they've given out in the last
Speaker 1: few years that don't look bad right now, Yeah, Tying
Speaker 1: whatever whatever restructure that I mean, Tyrone was almost a
Speaker 1: decade ago at this point. Yeah, Tyron, that tells you
Speaker 1: how great that deal was. Yeah, Like it was a
Speaker 1: really great Tyron sign that extension in fourteen. It's twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two, and and that'll never happen again. Where a
Speaker 1: guy is just like, yeah, underpay me, it's fine with me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's fair. That's what he says. It's fair. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean basically, so it doesn't He doesn't like talking
Speaker 1: to the media, probably don't even like talking to the
Speaker 1: Jones family, like whatever, Yeah, what will keep me from
Speaker 1: having to come up here and sign something? Ever? Again, cool,
Speaker 1: let's do it. I just done. I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: it's it's the consequences of their own actions that have
Speaker 1: put in put them in this position, and it's very
Speaker 1: frustrating to think that. I believe they are going to
Speaker 1: weaken their team as a result of it, and I
Speaker 1: don't want to speak too soon because they will add
Speaker 1: guys in free agency. Things will happen. They For the record,
Speaker 1: they haven't cut Amar yet, yeah, Worth pointing out, I
Speaker 1: mean maybe a trade could still materialize. Who knows. And
Speaker 1: then don't expect the trade. Don't expect this Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: type of like three first rounders. No, don't expect any
Speaker 1: first rounder. Second. I think a third. I think a
Speaker 1: third round pick would probably be the best thing. But honestly,
Speaker 1: you get what you get at this point. Again, they'll
Speaker 1: they'll take a fourth. If all everybody's talking about the fag,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be releasing him. He's all the other teams
Speaker 1: out there saying, y'all probably got released and there's no
Speaker 1: compensatory pick if you kind of guys. Not only that,
Speaker 1: I hope I would trade him for like a fourth
Speaker 1: just I just I've been joking with Nick for the
Speaker 1: last week, like he'll he'll be in Philly thirty six
Speaker 1: hours after he gets cut, silent. Just that's what happens
Speaker 1: when notable Cowboys get cut, they go to the East. Always.
Speaker 1: Philly needs a receiver, Philly has money, Philly probably wants
Speaker 1: to make life easier on their young quarterback. Dolphins would
Speaker 1: scare that, but Jesus out of me, I would love
Speaker 1: and then he'll kill it wherever he's doin. I would
Speaker 1: love for him to go anywhere else, Go to the AFC. Yeahhere,
Speaker 1: But that's my point is, even if you only get
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick back for him, if you can
Speaker 1: control where he goes, I mean, if you're hell bent
Speaker 1: on him not being part of your team, at least
Speaker 1: get him away from you. Yeah. Gold play for the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: where I only have to see you once every four years.
Speaker 1: I'm sure the Eagles would be happy to try to
Speaker 1: pull him over there, as much as he's hurt them
Speaker 1: every every time. The notable cowboy parts ways, DeMarcus Ware
Speaker 1: being maybe the one exception, and he's a you know,
Speaker 1: he's a lifetime cowboy. He wasn't going to do that.
Speaker 1: He wasn't going to do He might have done it.
Speaker 1: I guarantee you somebody offered him a deal in the
Speaker 1: he could actually felt that. He said he wouldn't he
Speaker 1: that was one thing. I can't do it. I'm not
Speaker 1: doing it cut him. Not everybody has that type of
Speaker 1: loyalty organizations. Another guys. I'm trying to think some other guys,
Speaker 1: Jason Hatcher, Orlando Scandrick Um. I know, I'm scared somewhere
Speaker 1: else he went. Before he went, he went. He played
Speaker 1: for Washington, the Chiefs, and the Eagles. I don't know
Speaker 1: there's more. I know there's more. I can't think of
Speaker 1: them all right. Chris Canny went on to win a
Speaker 1: Super Chris Canny went to the Joans. Canny thinks of
Speaker 1: himself more as a Giants guy than a Cowboys. He
Speaker 1: won Super Bowls with the Giants. No, but there have
Speaker 1: even there have been others just in the time that
Speaker 1: I've worked here. I'll try I'll do some digging during
Speaker 1: the break all right, we' gonna take our final break
Speaker 1: and we're just killed that segment. But uh, probably Albright
Speaker 1: something we needed to talk and talk about. But we're
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Speaker 1: gonna talk about free agents. We'll zip through a little
Speaker 1: bit of this list. We'll save some of it for
Speaker 1: next week. We'll do that when we come right back.
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Speaker 1: segments of Break Life from the s WBC Mortgage studios
Speaker 1: at the Star. Let's talk about free agents. I got
Speaker 1: a whole list here. There's no way we're going to
Speaker 1: finish this list in the thirteen minutes we have left
Speaker 1: in this show. So let's let's try to focus in
Speaker 1: on some Actually, let's focus in on the wide somebody
Speaker 1: Jordan is listening live. DeMarco Murray obviously was a huge one.
Speaker 1: He went to Philly and we said it there. I
Speaker 1: know for a fact Washington tried to sign a Mari
Speaker 1: when he hit free agency two years ago. I'm just
Speaker 1: NFC's teams love to scoop these guys up. They just do.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it'll happen with Mars one. I don't
Speaker 1: want to see an the NF season. I do still
Speaker 1: think Giants, Garrett. The one thing I will say, though,
Speaker 1: sure thing I will say though, is if he goes
Speaker 1: to Yeah, i'll say it any other NFC East team
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm a little less concerned because he just
Speaker 1: doesn't have the trigger man to necessarily get the ball
Speaker 1: to him in a consistent way. So I just I'm
Speaker 1: okay with that. I don't like it, but yeah, go ahead, Sorry,
Speaker 1: go ahead. We don't need to derail your side. I
Speaker 1: tell you. I tell you what has been a win though,
Speaker 1: real quick is that Aaron Rodgers is going back to
Speaker 1: Green Bay and Russell Wilson went to the Broncos, I
Speaker 1: mean Washington, even the Giants, the Eagles, all with these
Speaker 1: chances of getting this that was good. Supposedly, Russell that
Speaker 1: there were two options on the table. It was Washington
Speaker 1: and Denver, and he opted for Denver, which I was
Speaker 1: very happy for. The Washington becomes a very legitimate team
Speaker 1: if they get a quarterback. Denver was Denver is a
Speaker 1: very legitimate roster that was only missing a QB. Yeah. Also,
Speaker 1: until Washington has shows any proof that they are running
Speaker 1: more competently, I don't know why you would go there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, alright, all right, let's talk about free agent.
Speaker 1: Let's actually talk about the wide receiver position, because they
Speaker 1: got a little bit of everything. You got Michael Gallup,
Speaker 1: who it sounds like maybe the Cowboys are gonna get
Speaker 1: a deal done with. You got Noah Brown who already
Speaker 1: has gotten signed back, he's gonna be here. You've got
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson, who you don't know what's gonna happen with him.
Speaker 1: You got even a younger guy like Malik Turner, who's
Speaker 1: I thought flash last year, but maybe they don't even
Speaker 1: consider him. What do you think happens in free agency
Speaker 1: with the wide receiver position? First from the standpoint of
Speaker 1: what do you want to happen? And then second from
Speaker 1: the standpoint of what do you think will happen? What
Speaker 1: do I want to happen? Well, I wanted to start
Speaker 1: with the Mari staying, yeah, we got you um in
Speaker 1: the path that I think that they're going down. It
Speaker 1: sounds like the I would imagine that the Gallop deal
Speaker 1: needs to be done before anything happens to Cooper, because
Speaker 1: if you don't get that done and release a Mari,
Speaker 1: and then if you allow Michael to hit free agency
Speaker 1: and somebody blows him out of the water. Now you
Speaker 1: now you're really screwed with just CD and not a
Speaker 1: whole lot else. So I I don't even no offense
Speaker 1: to know, I just no offense. Noah, no offense, Noah.
Speaker 1: Is he's the utility guys, the bottom of the depth.
Speaker 1: Chaverything about that bad. He's a special teamer, I think so.
Speaker 1: I think the Gallop deal will be done in a week.
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson's out of here, not because they don't want him,
Speaker 1: but because he'll cost too much money, money, too much money.
Speaker 1: Seven million, right, yeah, so much money, yep, I think Cedric,
Speaker 1: I think eleven is yeah. I mean, I think the
Speaker 1: size of that deal is going to surprise some people
Speaker 1: when it is. But it's also the Gallup deal is
Speaker 1: one of those win for everyone. He's gonna get a
Speaker 1: deal that's probably let's just say like five year, fifty million,
Speaker 1: fifty five million, something like that. It'll be a lot
Speaker 1: of it'll be frontloaded, yeah, I bet it'll. It'll probably
Speaker 1: be like a two year, twenty four million dollars deal
Speaker 1: in reality, but it'll say he'll get he'll get his money.
Speaker 1: But actually I say frontloader. It'll be more backloaded, and
Speaker 1: then they'll have a decision to make two or three years,
Speaker 1: you know, but because they get spread it out, the
Speaker 1: cap costs might be right eight seven. And that's why
Speaker 1: you add years to a deal. That's why all this
Speaker 1: stuff happens to give people flexibility and all that time.
Speaker 1: Say it's five year fifty I mean that's you know
Speaker 1: what depends what the signing bonus is. It could be
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars signing bonus, which is spread it out
Speaker 1: over five years, that's a four million charge. Is base
Speaker 1: could only be a million or two, you know, for
Speaker 1: the first couple of years, and then it balloons out.
Speaker 1: So and thus that gives him time to rehab and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But but that gets the point I'll
Speaker 1: make because I know people probably heard what Dave say,
Speaker 1: two years twenty four millions maybe what it nets out
Speaker 1: to be, and they are like, well, just keep you know,
Speaker 1: just keep your guy. But I don't think it's the
Speaker 1: same thing. Like the cap cost is gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot less, yeah, than it would be with him? Are
Speaker 1: so Turner, I don't go ahead, the league Turner probably
Speaker 1: not coming back. Do you think they have an interest
Speaker 1: in him more that you think maybe for some reason
Speaker 1: he's you don't think they have no I think they
Speaker 1: don't want to get better from that. That's what I
Speaker 1: was told. I like him. I think he's good boy.
Speaker 1: If you're down twenty, i'd put him in the game.
Speaker 1: But that's fourth quarter guy. I hopefully you're not down twenty.
Speaker 1: I thought he had a nice season. He blocked one
Speaker 1: or two punts on top of that. But like, and
Speaker 1: I you know, it's I hate to be mean, but
Speaker 1: like you find those guys. I mean, he was like
Speaker 1: the seventh receiver in training camp. There will be another
Speaker 1: guy like him. There's there's five guys on the practice
Speaker 1: squad that signed futures contracts that can vie for that role.
Speaker 1: You don't need to give him a veteran deal to
Speaker 1: keep that production. I bet you they sign. And I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't want to throw a name out there because
Speaker 1: who knows, but like, they'll sign a veteran receiver for
Speaker 1: very cheap where we do the thing we always do
Speaker 1: when we're like who Okay, Like I guess he did that,
Speaker 1: and he did this and that, and they'll the classic
Speaker 1: Cowboys maneuver. They're like, Okay, this guy can be our
Speaker 1: slot if something doesn't come along, and we'll target a
Speaker 1: receiver in the first three rounds of the draft, and
Speaker 1: on we go. What a SIMI fit here at this point? Well,
Speaker 1: where let me win? Maybe because training camp he fits
Speaker 1: right into the probably the first team offense. Well, I
Speaker 1: guess let me. Let me let me preface a little bit,
Speaker 1: because Gallop won't be ready. I see what you're doing,
Speaker 1: glb over here. Ced will have a little something. Ye
Speaker 1: CD will have a nagging hammy. It's like it's precautionary.
Speaker 1: But he's not gonna practice for four days and we
Speaker 1: run the first team. Is because Simmy's a big body,
Speaker 1: and I was thinking maybe they were grooming him to
Speaker 1: be the Noah Brown, if you want to put it
Speaker 1: like that, the guy that's the bigger body, the guy
Speaker 1: that can kind of dip into a little blocking that
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Do you see him in a similar
Speaker 1: kind of role or do you think there's a different
Speaker 1: kind for him. No Brown shouldn't just go and buy
Speaker 1: another house. I mean, like, because if somebody can be
Speaker 1: better than that him, then he's he's a guy that
Speaker 1: could get cut to a one year deal. He could
Speaker 1: get cut if it's for a cheaper option. This is
Speaker 1: because they need depth. They knew receivers on the roster,
Speaker 1: right right, right, Yeah, So I think I think Simmy
Speaker 1: could fit in. I mean, he got a lot of
Speaker 1: time last year at least, you know, practice, and didn't
Speaker 1: do a lot with it. But you know, we say
Speaker 1: it all the time for first second year of jump,
Speaker 1: let's see how big how much commitment he puts in
Speaker 1: the off season. I'm over, I'd go to Dax House. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Cedric's not there. He needs to be in the backyard. Yeah, Which,
Speaker 1: so I don't like assigning expectations to guys drafted that late, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we hope you take a jump and you can be
Speaker 1: a useful player. Cedric Wilson is a great example. He
Speaker 1: even he got hurt as a rookie, he spent his
Speaker 1: rookie year on IR because he'd separated his shoulder and
Speaker 1: still was able to just keep developing and got built
Speaker 1: up a rapport with Dak and Turn and now he's
Speaker 1: gonna have a nice payday because of it. I don't
Speaker 1: expect that from a fifth round pick. You hope for it.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, yeah, hopefully he makes a jump and
Speaker 1: becomes a useful piece of the rotation. But if not,
Speaker 1: he's a fifth round pick. All right, we don't have
Speaker 1: an I'm I wrong for feeling that I would rather
Speaker 1: try to get a deal done with Cedric Wilson than
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup. No, you're not wrong with that. Seven million
Speaker 1: for Cedric Wilson, eleven million for Gallup and Gallops coming
Speaker 1: off a knee injury. No, you're not wrong with that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's a fair given, like a
Speaker 1: skill wise, and I know these are, But like Cedric
Speaker 1: Wilson after some of the things that I've seen, especially
Speaker 1: last year, I mean, he he's shown me things that
Speaker 1: I feel like, okay with Dak he has a very
Speaker 1: very good connection with him and all that, and he
Speaker 1: seems to be effective putting the right position. So I
Speaker 1: just I don't know if it's like I don't feel
Speaker 1: like Michael Gallup gives me a whole a lot more
Speaker 1: than what I could get from a cheaper Cedric Wilson.
Speaker 1: I see your logic there. I don't not with that.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go as far as to say
Speaker 1: I disagree. I actually I talk to people in Indianapolis, like,
Speaker 1: assuming this deal gets done, they have they want more
Speaker 1: from Michael Gallop, like I mean, he's been he's been there,
Speaker 1: ex he's their deep ball. Go get a guy that's
Speaker 1: kind of been him his emo. If he is back
Speaker 1: here as one of the top two pieces of this
Speaker 1: receiver corps, I think they want him to be more versatile.
Speaker 1: They want him in the slot more often. They want
Speaker 1: to be able to just have him be an interchangeable receiver,
Speaker 1: which he can do, but that just really hasn't been
Speaker 1: his thing in a larger role. I'd be interested to
Speaker 1: see what else he's capable of, because I mean, I
Speaker 1: beat the drum for Gallop for years that I think
Speaker 1: he's a highly underrated player. I'm still scared of the
Speaker 1: idea of like him not having the safety net of
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper being across from him. But I think I
Speaker 1: think I'll take I'll take Gallop. I'm ok I'm okay
Speaker 1: with that. I think his upside is better than Cedric's
Speaker 1: if that, I think he still has more that he
Speaker 1: can show you. I think we've seen kind of the
Speaker 1: peak of what Cedric is going to be. I don't
Speaker 1: know that I feel the same way about Gallup. I
Speaker 1: think Gallup has some more now I will say this,
Speaker 1: I'll ask this question. Do you guys, let's let's assume
Speaker 1: right now he's not injured. Does that change your opinion?
Speaker 1: Amber and Nick like, would you then say, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: Gallops the guy you go off is really the injury.
Speaker 1: What's coloring this injury is part of it. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's part of it, even if he was healthy. I
Speaker 1: mean think about, like we're talking about a four million
Speaker 1: a year difference, and what if that's the difference of
Speaker 1: not signing Jayron curseback because you can't You mean, would
Speaker 1: you rather have Jayron Curse and Cedric Wilson or just
Speaker 1: Michael Gallop and then the safety that you don't draft
Speaker 1: or so I don't know how what they're gonna do
Speaker 1: with safety. It kind of like it makes me think
Speaker 1: of like those dolls that nestle inside of each other,
Speaker 1: because that's just a different version of the same conversation.
Speaker 1: Would you rather have a Marii Cooper or Dalton Schultz
Speaker 1: and Michael Gallup? Well, would you rather have Michael Gallup
Speaker 1: or Cedric Wilson and jar how far down the rabbit
Speaker 1: hole can we go? Here? And that's yeah, but I
Speaker 1: said it at one point last year, I thought, man,
Speaker 1: I think Cedric Wilson may be better than Michael Gallop.
Speaker 1: He's definitely more versatile, it could do more things. Um
Speaker 1: but I don't feel like we've seen the peak. I
Speaker 1: don't off Cedric Wilson. I think he can still show
Speaker 1: you some worth it or maybe given the time, I
Speaker 1: think there is possibility and to really find out if
Speaker 1: that is really his peak or not. But I think
Speaker 1: it's too soon to say he's reached his peak. I
Speaker 1: will throw this in there though, I don't think there's
Speaker 1: another receiver. You go back to last season, I don't
Speaker 1: think there was a receiver on this team other than
Speaker 1: Gallop that really gave you a consistent threat downfield, like
Speaker 1: he was their best downfield threat. I don't think Cedric's
Speaker 1: gonna give you that. So he brings that to the
Speaker 1: table that I think is you games. I know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like that's his game, Like he's a guy
Speaker 1: that's a deep threat option. Who else who else is
Speaker 1: going to give you that? I mean, does that if
Speaker 1: if this is all he's gone, we think he might
Speaker 1: be gone. So if this is what we're doing, he
Speaker 1: needs to be CD And I honestly feel like that
Speaker 1: the argument is so toxic about what to do with
Speaker 1: a Mari, Like the CD's got a step up, like honestly,
Speaker 1: and I think he's a really good player, but like
Speaker 1: in relation to the hype and they like, my god,
Speaker 1: I can't believe the league let him fall to seventeen.
Speaker 1: He hasn't lived up to that in my opinion, and
Speaker 1: especially with Jordan Jefferson drafted behind him, just setting the
Speaker 1: league on fire. And he's got a good receiver, a
Speaker 1: good route running veteran receiver across from him too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Adam feeling so absolutely so, you know, I just
Speaker 1: this is this is about CD. For me, it should
Speaker 1: be CD. And again Kellen Moore find a way, find
Speaker 1: a way to do it, man. I mean, like he
Speaker 1: is a very talented receiver. He's your number one in
Speaker 1: a world where a Mari's not here, I'm not worried
Speaker 1: about Gallup and Cedric Wilson. So that's where I look.
Speaker 1: He and he had a he caught a down on
Speaker 1: a go ball against the Giants in like week whatever,
Speaker 1: it was like week six, and it was like one
Speaker 1: of the only like long downfield touchdowns I can remember
Speaker 1: him ever scoring. And that like that needs to be
Speaker 1: an element of his game. There's so much stuff he
Speaker 1: needs to be able to do. I just think about
Speaker 1: that play that he got hurt on Patriots, the crossing
Speaker 1: round here, deep cross here. I think about that play
Speaker 1: that he got hurt on, and I'm just like, man,
Speaker 1: that little level of athleticism, Cyldric doesn't have that. He
Speaker 1: just doesn't have that that. I think this guy has
Speaker 1: a little more. Sinning touchdown against Carolina was pretty awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah that you think it was better than that catch
Speaker 1: he got hurt. That that the catch and by the
Speaker 1: way he does that on the sideline pretty he makes them,
Speaker 1: makes the catches on the sideline is just like, how
Speaker 1: did he make that catch? Level of athleticism I think
Speaker 1: is just Mike has nowhere near the frame of Dez,
Speaker 1: but is like his ability to go get the ball
Speaker 1: is comparable, in my opinion, which is crazy to say
Speaker 1: his touchdown against the Saints, his touchdown against the Cardinals
Speaker 1: while tearing his acl, I mean, Michael Gallup's best play
Speaker 1: like that, ninety five percent of the world didn't see.
Speaker 1: We saw the fence, the fence out the world saw
Speaker 1: that's true video. We didn't get a good video. Remember
Speaker 1: they flipped over the fence and then the best part
Speaker 1: was the next day there was no fence, right, get
Speaker 1: rid of that. Probably there's no fans like like, what
Speaker 1: do we got the fence for? He doesn't he doesn't
Speaker 1: get credit for how athletic he really is and that shot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and also acls are easier to come back from than
Speaker 1: they ever have been. But it's still it gives you
Speaker 1: pause when you're like, okay, we're rolling with a guy
Speaker 1: that's probably gonna miss training camp and letting go of,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, one of the ten or twelve best
Speaker 1: receivers in the league to do it scary. All right,
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Speaker 1: of your guys do we get to? Like two four?
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Speaker 1: didn't talk. We didn't talk. I mean, I'm about to
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