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Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, Danny Siak joins me.

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Speaker 1: Week three and still no head coach. The question is

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Speaker 1: do we get to a week four championship? Sunday is

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Speaker 1: coming up? What do we think will happen? Plus? Did

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Speaker 1: J J. Watt get snubbed? I think he did. It's

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two, episode six thirty eight and it starts now.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two, Hitting the backfield and Downy

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Speaker 1: goes for a loss. JJ Watt nailed it. Cardinals Cover

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Speaker 1: two is presented by Hun Day, proud partner of the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit acy Cardinals

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Speaker 1: dot com Slash podcasts. He's at the ten half of

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Speaker 1: five peas in again, so for Harry Magic. WHOA. Here's

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Speaker 1: Craig grieloup. For those of us who are counting, and

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Speaker 1: that includes you, Danny. This is day eighteen of the

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Speaker 1: Great Head Coaching Search of twenty twenty three. I usually

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Speaker 1: don't count if I don't have to. I'm not great

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Speaker 1: that update. I was not keeping track. Eighteen sounds like

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Speaker 1: a lot, but when you think about it, none of

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Speaker 1: the other four openings across the league have been filled,

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Speaker 1: so maybe it's not that long. Yeah, it doesn't feel

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Speaker 1: like it's been a long time, to be honest, I

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Speaker 1: kind of like that. It doesn't necessarily feel like there's

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Speaker 1: a rush. There are still some candidates who are coaching

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Speaker 1: still in the playoffs, so that kind of adjust to

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Speaker 1: teams they can talk to at this point, which is

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Speaker 1: probably playing a role for some teams. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: how much that's playing a role for the Cardinals, but

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Speaker 1: it is nice to just kind of take the time

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Speaker 1: and have a little time to breathe in between hiring

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Speaker 1: a new GM and getting a new head coach. So

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Speaker 1: I'll take it. It is the uncertainty, and everyone wants

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Speaker 1: answers yesterday. Everyone wants to know yesterday. We still do

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Speaker 1: not know as we speak here on this Thursday. Now.

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Speaker 1: Is it coming later today, coming Friday, this weekend, next week?

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Speaker 1: My guess is an announcement is coming sooner rather than later,

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Speaker 1: I was going to make a prediction that a Cardinals

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Speaker 1: I also think, based on what we have seen from

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Speaker 1: national media and whatnot, the candidates that have been out

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Speaker 1: here to the facility that also have other interview opportunities

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Speaker 1: with other teams, whether that's for another head coach position

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Speaker 1: or something else. If you're leading candidate is having second

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals have completed some interviews this week, some first time,

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Speaker 1: some second time, you're going to have to pull the trigger,

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Speaker 1: and I think before the Super Bowl comes to Arizona.

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Speaker 1: people from around the league are going to be out here.

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Speaker 1: It's not just networking for you know, media members with

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see a separation. And just because we

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Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals, but former Cowboys are still

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Speaker 1: current Cowboys defensive coordinator one, the question is obviously your

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Speaker 1: connection to the Dallas Cowboys, and I'm going to suggest

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Speaker 1: that the first question you asked the new head coaches one,

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Speaker 1: will he wear the hat backwards on the sideline like

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Speaker 1: he does in the booth? Oh, that would be a

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Speaker 1: good question. He did not do that with the Atlanta

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Speaker 1: fal because the hat was forward. Maybe he's going to

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Speaker 1: change it up and he's done forward and background. Maybe

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Speaker 1: he's gonna go sideways. Maybe he's gonna do the rally

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Speaker 1: cap and he's gonna do inside out or no, no hat.

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Speaker 1: You know. Unfortunately I didn't get a lot of opportunities

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Speaker 1: to really connect with dan Quinn because he was hired

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one, because I through the first week

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Speaker 1: up moving out here and had my first game day

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Speaker 1: Week four here with the Cardinals. So it was still

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Speaker 1: heavy COVID protocols that offseason in terms of everything being virtual,

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Speaker 1: not really being on that side of the building, not

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Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco. So I've only had very minimal

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Speaker 1: interactions with him, but I will say from those interactions,

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Speaker 1: well liked and well respected and is a different type

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Speaker 1: of players coach than what Kingsbury was to me, at

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Speaker 1: least from my perspective. If you're looking at a spectrum,

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Speaker 1: I feel like you've Cliff Kingsbury on one side, and

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Speaker 1: and I would think Dan Quinn fits in the middle,

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Speaker 1: maybe more so towards Dan Campbell, but doesn't seem as intense,

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Speaker 1: also media members as well. So when we're trying to

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Speaker 1: connect between general manager and coaching candidates and figuring out oh,

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Speaker 1: well Montie, Austin Fords, and Brian Flores, they have a history.

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Speaker 1: We can't connect Danny Serek and Dan Quinn too. Maybe coach,

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Speaker 1: you know, Coach Quinn prefers the Cardinals because well Danny

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Speaker 1: works here. Maybe he's just following my trail. Maybe just

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Speaker 1: maybe he wants to get to know me more. We

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Speaker 1: didn't have that opportunity in Dallas, so I wants to

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Speaker 1: come out to Arizona. Trublazer. By the way, if it

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Speaker 1: does break that dan Quinn is the head coach, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna pull this audio right here and we're gonna send

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Speaker 1: it to the new Cardinals head coach again as we

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Speaker 1: speak here on this Thursday, though no head coach announcements

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Speaker 1: as of yet, as we are now at day eighteen.

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Speaker 1: I also think it'll come soon because everyone and their

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Speaker 1: mother is coming out here for the Super Bowl. Maybe

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Speaker 1: waste management, but everyone and their mother will be out

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Speaker 1: here very shortly. And even though the Cardinals are obviously

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Speaker 1: not going to be playing in the super Bowl, it's

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Speaker 1: in your stadium, it's it's your area, so they're still

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Speaker 1: going to be talk about the Cardinals and I would

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Speaker 1: imagine now this wouldn't be a reason why you would

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Speaker 1: make a decision as fast as you would, but I

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Speaker 1: would think that it would be nice to have a

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Speaker 1: set up so that when people do talk about the Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: it's more in that positive light. You can look forward

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Speaker 1: and you can have hope looking into next season. Maybe

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Speaker 1: that's maybe not playing a role. You're not going to

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Speaker 1: hire a coach say oh, well, the Super Bowls coming

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Speaker 1: up in six days, we need to from a pr standpoint, No,

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Speaker 1: that's not what I'm saying, but I do think that

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Speaker 1: will be a nice part of if you have a

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Speaker 1: head coach sooner rather than later, is when people talk

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Speaker 1: about the Cardinals around the Super Bowl happening at State

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Speaker 1: Farm Stadium, you can talk in a more positive light

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Speaker 1: and have hope for the future. It'd be a good

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Speaker 1: jumping off part because you've got radio row, you've got

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Speaker 1: the waste management Phoenix open, and not that your head

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Speaker 1: coach is out there every single day. But again, it's

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Speaker 1: that marketing and it's looking forward and really putting everything

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Speaker 1: else in the rear view mirror. You have several ties

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Speaker 1: to twenty twenty two, and it's now all about twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three, moving forward, new regime. Let's get it going

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Speaker 1: all right before we close up shop here on Cardinals

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Speaker 1: cover two presented by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: I want to bring this topic up, and you brought

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Speaker 1: up the name jj Watt, and I do think and

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Speaker 1: whether or not you agree with me or not, Danny,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you'll let me know. But when we hear

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Speaker 1: the finalists for whether it's MVP Coach Offense Defensive Player

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Speaker 1: of the Year, the AP Comeback Player of the Year Award,

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Speaker 1: three finalists Giants running back Saquon Barkley, forty nine Ers

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Speaker 1: running back Christian McCaffrey and Seahawks quarterback Geno Smith. For me,

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Speaker 1: one name missing. Now, he can't say a name without

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Speaker 1: taking someone else out. It doesn't work that way. But

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Speaker 1: why jj Watt was not among the finalists, Whether or

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Speaker 1: not he was considered, I don't know what the voting was.

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Speaker 1: But jj Watt, who suffered a devastating shoulder injury, played

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Speaker 1: only seven games last season and then this season had

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Speaker 1: his best year in years in five years, leaving the

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Speaker 1: team in sacks, quarterback hits, and tackles for loss. How

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Speaker 1: much consideration was there nationally for JJ Watt despite a

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Speaker 1: four win season for Watt and the Cardinals. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: that played a role in it. We were talking about

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Speaker 1: that with Pro Bowl nominations and selections as well of

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Speaker 1: the team's overall record does play a certain role in

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Speaker 1: that JJ had a great season. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: take that away from him. Our producer Jim and Mahandra

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Speaker 1: ad a good point that the fact that JJ came

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Speaker 1: back for the playoffs last year probably hurt his chances

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Speaker 1: to be Comeback Player of the Year this year. I

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Speaker 1: also think when you look at someone like Christian McCaffrey,

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Speaker 1: who has had the year he's had with multiple teams

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Speaker 1: and to go to San Francisco and middle of the

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Speaker 1: season and just explode the way he has to some

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Speaker 1: degree the exception of Geno Smith in this case, I

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Speaker 1: think the way that MVP has pretty much become like

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Speaker 1: the Heisman A Quarterbacks Award. I think that Comeback Player

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Speaker 1: of the Year has become an ACL MCL that type

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Speaker 1: of comeback award, because that knocks you out for the

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Speaker 1: full season. It really upwards close to a year by

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Speaker 1: the time you rehab, and so I think that's just

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Speaker 1: what a lot of people kind of geared towards are

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Speaker 1: those kinds of injuries. When it comes to comeback Player

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Speaker 1: of the Year, there's also stipulations of the rookie in

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Speaker 1: Washington who was shot and came back is ineligible because

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Speaker 1: he's a rookie. So I get your point about JJ

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Speaker 1: I do I Just realistically, I think for that type

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Speaker 1: of position, you would have to have like a Nick

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Speaker 1: Bosa type year to really be considered. So twelve and

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Speaker 1: a half sacks is not enough. This is not about

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Speaker 1: me personally. Well, that's the thing what these awards have become.

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Speaker 1: How do you define comeback? Like what are you coming

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Speaker 1: probably spent more time on this than I should have,

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Speaker 1: But really, what is Gino Smith coming back from? Not playing? Exactly?

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Speaker 1: So he has not been a starter in this league

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Speaker 1: since his first two years twenty thirteen and twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 1: So is he coming back because he hasn't played and

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Speaker 1: now he's back And that now I understand the story,

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Speaker 1: and it's a great story. Give Seattle would have gone

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Speaker 1: further in the playoffs, that would be different. Okay, but

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Speaker 1: remember this is I do think it's all about regular

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Speaker 1: season success. You can't you can't argue what Gino Smith

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Speaker 1: did and I have no problems, but again, what are

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Speaker 1: you coming back from? He didn't play because he wasn't

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Speaker 1: good enough. Now he gets an opportunity and the other

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Speaker 1: So that would be one name that I would take

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Speaker 1: off because I don't like when people say, why didn't

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Speaker 1: ex player get involved or invited? Well, okay, tell me

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Speaker 1: who gets taken off, And for me, it's Gino Smith

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Speaker 1: And I'm thrown out. Say Quon Barkley because he tore

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Speaker 1: the ACL in twenty twenty. He played last season, yep,

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Speaker 1: so that's so he's coming back from injury two years ago.

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Speaker 1: So it's just that the Giants were playing back. I

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Speaker 1: also think with Gino Smith, a lot of that storyline

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Speaker 1: weren't going to have Russell Wilson. So that's part of

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Speaker 1: the Geno Smith story. If it weren't Russell Wilson, if

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Speaker 1: it had been Drew Locke, and they would have moved

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Speaker 1: on from Drew Locke and gone with Gino Smith. Like

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Speaker 1: that would have been different. So the parallels because you

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Speaker 1: see the struggles of Russell Wilson and the success of

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Speaker 1: Geno Smith all played. I do think Gino Smith will

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Speaker 1: win it because it's more of the story versus the injury.

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Speaker 1: And you made a great point because typically, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: someone who comes back from a devastating injury ankle, knee, arm,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is, where you miss an entire season or

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Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen games and then come back you're a Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl or you're leading the team and rushing or receiver

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Speaker 1: or whatever it is. But I do think that Gino

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Speaker 1: Smith story resonates. But again, how are you defining comeback

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Speaker 1: because he rode the bench and just hey, he won

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Speaker 1: the job. I mean there was a competition between he

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Speaker 1: what is he coming back from? No, I get your point,

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Speaker 1: And I think JJ could have likely been a finalist

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Speaker 1: again had he not came back for a game last

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Speaker 1: year now and just as impressive. But now JJ Watt

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Speaker 1: did and maybe this matters only to us, but he

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Speaker 1: did get the Cardinals Award for Defensive Player of the Year,

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Speaker 1: and the next time you see our colleague Paul CALVISI

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Speaker 1: just make sure you mentioned to him that of the

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Speaker 1: Cardinal Awards and again go toasy Cardinals dot com, of

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Speaker 1: the six categories, none of his selections were winners. What

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Speaker 1: he went over. That's crazy me because for those of

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Speaker 1: you who don't know, at the end of every season

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Speaker 1: our content department, we go when we pick top five

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Speaker 1: plays on offense, defense, special teams, and we have awards.

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Speaker 1: So MVP, Defensive Player of the Year, Offensive Player of

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Speaker 1: the Year, Play of the Year, all that stuff. And

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Speaker 1: year that the Cardinals had, it didn't feel like there

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Speaker 1: were a lot of options for wiggle room. I could

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Speaker 1: see a couple of players if JJ Watt got Defensive

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Speaker 1: along those lines. So the fact that none of Paul's

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Speaker 1: go back and look at who he chose the awards MVP,

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Speaker 1: Buddha Baker, Offensive Player of the Year, James Connor, Defensive

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Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown and Beyond the box Score Kelvin Beecham, those

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Speaker 1: were all of your picks, and the one difference that

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Speaker 1: and that was Kyler's twenty second two points conversion. It

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Speaker 1: I had Play of the Year, I had Bayern Murphy's

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Speaker 1: play I believe second, and I had Kyler Murray's two

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Speaker 1: point conversion. Yeah, so you had you went five or six.

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Speaker 1: Paul went over six. So just next time you see

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Speaker 1: mister calvci that he did not pick just for plays

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Speaker 1: or plays player the Cardinals Awards, Cardinals Awards. Wow, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna havena go look at it. Who he chose because

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Speaker 1: the only ones I could think you could kind of

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Speaker 1: sprinkle in as if you think DeAndre Hopkins when he

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Speaker 1: came back and what he did for the offense, who

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Speaker 1: else could he have chosen? He went with JJ Watt's MVP.

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Speaker 1: He had Buddha Baker as Defensive Player of the Year.

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Speaker 1: our executive producer Jim Molmandro For Danny Serek, I'm Craig

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Speaker 1: a new head coach has been announced. Here on Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Covered two,