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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. This is the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Guest toasting today from the Pacific Northwest Radio

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Speaker 1: and podcast toast and digital media strategist DoD Herman. It

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Speaker 1: is an absolute pleasure. Thank you Clay Travis, Thank you

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton for letting me sit in on your radio program.

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Speaker 1: Such an honor. And I hope that you're getting the

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Speaker 1: rest that you guys want. I also do a radio show,

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Speaker 1: so I won't say this serve. Come on, we talked

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Speaker 1: for a living, We visit with people. Yeah, it's honestly

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Speaker 1: more mentally hard work than than most people think. Truly

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Speaker 1: it is. You know, throughout my career of occasion had

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Speaker 1: people come in and I've seen management want to give

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Speaker 1: people test drive doing talk radio, and there they be

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Speaker 1: people who are politicians and they're very good at the

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Speaker 1: stuff speech, but after the first twenty minutes of material

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Speaker 1: runs out on radio, they get a little bit. We're

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Speaker 1: relieve and afraid. It is eight hundred two two eight

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Speaker 1: eight two. If you want to talk with us, and

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Speaker 1: I'd really like to know what are your top priorities

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Speaker 1: for Republicans. And I got a sneaky reason for asking.

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Speaker 1: It's I'm setting a track from Mitch McConnell, understanding draft

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Speaker 1: from me, Shanny, I'm a draft set draft ship, an expert. Oh,

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Speaker 1: just putting chickens in potch of what we're doing. So

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Speaker 1: McConnell says that there is a priority for Republicans. He

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Speaker 1: says it's unanimous. Every Republican he knows has the same priority.

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Speaker 1: So eight hundred two eighty two to eighty two. In

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Speaker 1: addition to what you want to talk about, we talked

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Speaker 1: in the last the last, the last hour this theme emerged.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes this happens, and it was a theme of entering

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Speaker 1: into a low trust society and the sort of precipice

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Speaker 1: on which that place is the nation. You reach a

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Speaker 1: breaking point where people say, Okay, I get it. Everyone

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Speaker 1: else is cheating, so why do I want to be

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Speaker 1: the sucker at the table. And the way this begins

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Speaker 1: to get into an accelerated mode is people say, well,

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Speaker 1: not only are they cheating, but they're not getting caught,

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Speaker 1: and when they get caught, nothing really happens to them. Now,

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Speaker 1: there is in our country a very observable form of

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Speaker 1: this that if you are helping the party that is,

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Speaker 1: as I refer to it as the McConnell and Pelosi party,

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Speaker 1: and of a longer explanation of that, but this uniparty thing,

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Speaker 1: if you're helping them, you're good. We could we could

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Speaker 1: help you settle things out and smooth things out. But

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Speaker 1: if you're not helpful to us, then we're not going

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Speaker 1: to assist you. And it also happens this way. Imagine

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Speaker 1: that you're in a just try this. Try this at

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Speaker 1: a casino and see if you come out with all

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Speaker 1: your teeth. Like, go to a Las Vegas casino or

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Speaker 1: maybe a Mesquite, Nevada casino and win a bunch of

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Speaker 1: hands and do it's smart? I mean, do its smart.

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Speaker 1: You don't win every hand, but you win a bunch

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Speaker 1: of money and you cash in the chips, and let's

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Speaker 1: say you've got ten twenty grand in your pocket, maybe

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Speaker 1: thirty forty grand of other people's money. And then you

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Speaker 1: turn around, you say, not tell you, guys? Did I

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Speaker 1: not tell you that I'm using software to read the cards? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry? Oh wow? Are they gonna let you keep

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Speaker 1: your teeth? Are they gonna let you gamble? There? Again?

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Speaker 1: Is the casito going to welcome you back. Look, this

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Speaker 1: could get me off a distraction. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: do this. There's sometimes where I can I can read cards,

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Speaker 1: I can read what's next. I don't count cards because

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Speaker 1: I'm not mathematically inclined. But I have experienced this time

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Speaker 1: in my life, and it's happened occasionally where I literally

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Speaker 1: know what the next card is and I've won at

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Speaker 1: blackjack on that. And this was in Mesquite, Nevada, and

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Speaker 1: I actually got kicked off the blackjack tables because he

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Speaker 1: be fun. And you told me, do you want to

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Speaker 1: be banned from all casinos? Get And he was polite.

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Speaker 1: I'll buy your dinner, will comp your room, but you're

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Speaker 1: done with any cards. Why do I bring this up?

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Speaker 1: The Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, it came out with

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Speaker 1: sort of an interesting little correction. There were ten thousand

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Speaker 1: jobs added in March to June of twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: not one point one million. Whoops? Did they get to

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Speaker 1: come back to the casino? Do you see the slip

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Speaker 1: into low trust society is? Wait? What when they when

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Speaker 1: they said it was does anyone get fired? Is? Then

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Speaker 1: maybe it's a stern talking too. Maybe it's a sort

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Speaker 1: your professional career, if you've ever had one. They often

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Speaker 1: begin this way with your boss calling you into your office,

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Speaker 1: into his or her office, sitting down across from you,

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Speaker 1: looking in your eyes, with cold steely eyes, staring at

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Speaker 1: you for an uncomfortable bit of silence, and then doing this,

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Speaker 1: so what do you have to tell me? And you

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Speaker 1: search your memory banks for what you might have done?

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Speaker 1: Did they get that sort of stern talking to? So

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Speaker 1: take that comparison, and let's bring into this now, Donald

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Speaker 1: John Trump, because if we're at tracking low trust societies,

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Speaker 1: and we're tracking this bifurcation where if you're helpful to

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Speaker 1: DC maintaining power and Pelosi and McConnell maintaining power, and

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Speaker 1: maintaining power, you're good. We can help you smooth things out.

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Speaker 1: But they went after President Trump's tax returns and it

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Speaker 1: was a quest like for the Holy Grail and as

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Speaker 1: you'll hear, they got President Trump's tax returns. Does that

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Speaker 1: mean the walls are closing in? Bombshell? Today is a

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Speaker 1: turning point. Today was historically bad for President Trump. Today

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Speaker 1: was a turning point, a turning point. We're at a

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Speaker 1: turning point here, the beginning of the end for the

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Speaker 1: Trump presidency, the beginning of the end. Breaking news we

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Speaker 1: have another bombshell. Mike Pants might have to assume the

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Speaker 1: office of the presidency. The call for impeachment, rumblings of

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Speaker 1: the word impeachment, breaking the news of the bombshell out

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Speaker 1: of the White House. I believe this is the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the end. It's really the beginning of the end,

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the end. Maybe feeling the walls closing

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Speaker 1: the walls closing in on him, breaking news, a new bombshell.

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Speaker 1: One astrologer says, this means the beginning of the end

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Speaker 1: for President Donald Trumps, the beginning of the end of

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Speaker 1: the Trump presidency. Trump will resign. Trump is going to resign.

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Speaker 1: Is this the tipping point? I know, we've said it

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Speaker 1: and over and over this is a tipping point, and

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Speaker 1: over and over breaking news. President Trump off the rail.

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Speaker 1: There's the beginning of the end. Today us the risk

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Speaker 1: that the island of Guam may cap size. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: cap size, the President's right, that's what we're all right.

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Speaker 1: So they get his tax returns and they try their

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Speaker 1: very very best to merchandise this into a scandal. He

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Speaker 1: didn't pay any taxes and it's his fault for playing

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Speaker 1: game scenario. Wait, you check raised, b right, I get

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Speaker 1: a higher you have a bigger chip stack than I do. Right,

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Speaker 1: but I get, I get to check raise. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: what they wanted it to be, but it proved a

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Speaker 1: think it proved. Look, you know what is You know

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Speaker 1: that phrase consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds, which

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Speaker 1: is an incorrect statement. By the way, if it's a

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Speaker 1: fun statement, but it's incorrect. You want to really put

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Speaker 1: this into spotlight. How about this complication? Useless complication is

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Speaker 1: the technique of a scoundrel. Any time people purposely complicate things.

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Speaker 1: It's the handiwork of someone trying to pull one over

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Speaker 1: on you. Go to the simplest, most common human failing

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Speaker 1: from the office, and you were sitting next to each

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Speaker 1: you creshed her shoulder. What did I see? Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: so I have to she's my sister, sees you. We

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Speaker 1: just learned this. See. So we did at the office.

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Speaker 1: We did, we did one of those DNA tests from China,

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Speaker 1: and we got the result. She's my sister. We shut no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: you're lying. You're having an affair. In our tax code

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Speaker 1: exists the ability to install scams and swindles to gift

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Speaker 1: to others. So does it with our regulatory body. You've

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Speaker 1: tracked this. Sam Bakman Freed, guy, Sam Bakman Freed is

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Speaker 1: the greatest con artist, short term con artist. The greatest

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Speaker 1: Steve Jobs had said, a good carn artist gets away

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Speaker 1: he was broke, he was penniless. Where did the two

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Speaker 1: he was seeking? And we find out as this is

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Speaker 1: Bullet Capital Management, and Zach told me this that the

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Speaker 1: How would he accomplish that it is illegal to create

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Speaker 1: laws for a single company. Well, complication, Needless complication is

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Speaker 1: that in addition to honoring a life that was taken

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Speaker 1: too young in a service of keeping other people safe

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Speaker 1: and warm. As an example of the opposite of Washington, DC,

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Speaker 1: it's Todd Herman in for Clay and Buck. It's Todd

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Speaker 1: Herman in for Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton. And if

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Speaker 1: to do that is refund my podcast at the Todd

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Speaker 1: Hermanshow dot com and we'll get to the phones eight

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Speaker 1: two to eight eight two. Really curious about what people's

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Speaker 1: top priority for Republicans are, particularly from Washington, DC. And

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Speaker 1: this is a trap from Mitch McCollough. Mitch, you can

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Speaker 1: midst of this storm. The refusal to allow, in many cases,

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Speaker 1: investments in our infrastructure while they're chasing this purposeful red

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Speaker 1: more than trying to force people to purchase products they

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Speaker 1: It's a bomb acare this time for power. Just a

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Speaker 1: quick note to the family of Blake Rogers, twenty two

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Speaker 1: it means that we sit one out. That's horribly dangerous.

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Speaker 1: It's a horrible thing to say. And I want to

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Speaker 1: it's it Heaven. It's that we've been worried about time

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Speaker 1: such as these. So the tactical effort for me, then,

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Speaker 1: tactically speaking, is we must starve the beast. We must

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Speaker 1: pick candidates, period, not organizations. We must pick candidates with

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Speaker 1: the agreement that we're picking them for the following reasons.

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Speaker 1: And in terms of principles, there is no we can

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Speaker 1: go through this entire show. And I'm quite confident that

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Speaker 1: every Republican we talk to is going to say they

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Speaker 1: have a difference top priority than Mitch McConnell. His priority

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Speaker 1: is Ukraine and that comes through in the funding. But

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Speaker 1: we're going to have to pick individuals period. No RNC,

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Speaker 1: no NRSC, no NRCC. We simply cannot afford to be

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Speaker 1: kind any longer because it's being cruel to ourselves. Also,

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Speaker 1: we have to be harder on our side than the other.

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Speaker 1: We expect the other side to do what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: We expect it. We cannot continue to stomach it from

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Speaker 1: our side. There's some other things that we need to do.

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Speaker 1: We need to get really good at embarrassing them when

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Speaker 1: they ever get around into town halls. Again, we need

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Speaker 1: to on our side lineup and every question is effectively

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Speaker 1: the same. When are you going to tell the truth?

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Speaker 1: What are you going to admit that the FBI is

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Speaker 1: a fraud at the top. What are you going to do?

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Speaker 1: Something as simple as this, Mitch McConnell or Rob Portman,

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Speaker 1: It is something simple as this, demand that we get

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Speaker 1: access to all your emails unless it's national security. Simple stuff.

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Speaker 1: Put it up into the cloud, let us read it.

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Speaker 1: Why do we have to have public document requests or

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Speaker 1: for your request to look at this stuff that you

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Speaker 1: write on our behalf. We're gonna have to hold them

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Speaker 1: to account in that way. We can't hold to account

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Speaker 1: until we see what they're doing. We need to go

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Speaker 1: to every single Congressman and Republican senator and say you'll

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Speaker 1: never have our support, and we mean it not ever,

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Speaker 1: even if it's between you and someone we can't stand.

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Speaker 1: You'll never have our support. If you go around voting

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Speaker 1: for all of US bills like this, you're done. We're

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Speaker 1: never going to support you again. And yeah, that might

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Speaker 1: lose us an election, But what would be the difference,

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Speaker 1: Lisa Makowski? What would be the difference? And those are

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Speaker 1: hard truth as I see them, and sometimes it's scary,

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Speaker 1: but we need to remember that we're not alone in this.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk to Tom in Ohio. Tom, you are on

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Speaker 1: the Clay Travis Buck Section show. It's Todd Herman filling in.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Tom High. Hey, Todd, thank you for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: The reason I called you're talking about the FBI And

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Speaker 1: this hits me. This hits to me personally because first,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you by myself, I'm a carpenter. I

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Speaker 1: work for myself. My wife's a farm d We're responsible, loving,

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Speaker 1: true patriots of America. And last year at this time,

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Speaker 1: I went to a school board meeting, and if you remember,

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Speaker 1: Mark Garland was calling people domestic terrist if they went

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Speaker 1: to a school board meeting. I went to my local

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Speaker 1: I got to knock at my door and the two

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Speaker 1: with the Home in Department of the Security and the FBI,

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Speaker 1: and he handed me his card. He said, before you

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Speaker 1: say anything, you don't have to say anything at all.

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Speaker 1: But I already know everything about you. I said, buddy,

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Speaker 1: I'll talk to you. I have nothing to hide, which

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Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't know, but either way. His first questions

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Speaker 1: out of his mouth Todd was have you ever been

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Speaker 1: to a Trump rally? I said no? He said, have

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Speaker 1: you ever been in Washington, DC? And if you got

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Speaker 1: to remember last time, this time they're looking forward to

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Speaker 1: people that act like idiots in January sixth and uh

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Speaker 1: and he's like, do you have any guns? He just

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Speaker 1: started asking questions. And you know the reason I'm calling

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Speaker 1: telling you this. The FBI it's so corrupt for them

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Speaker 1: to come to a purchase like my house. Who's never

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Speaker 1: been arrest in my life, Codd, I'm I'm like you.

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Speaker 1: I've had speeding tickets, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it's every day when I see everything just happened.

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Speaker 1: And I've tried to get this message out as much

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Speaker 1: as I can because if they come to my house,

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Speaker 1: they can come to your house. And the scary part

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Speaker 1: is I have young kids and I've talked to a

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Speaker 1: lot of people. I've talked to attorneys and different things,

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Speaker 1: and some of them say you should talk to them,

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Speaker 1: some say you shouldn't. But the problem with me is

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Speaker 1: I have young kids in my house. I don't want

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Speaker 1: my door knocked down at three o'clock in the morning.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Todd. And that's the threat

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Speaker 1: that they that's the threat that they transmit. And I'll

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Speaker 1: just pile on to the advice that you get is

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Speaker 1: when they come knocking, don't talk. And that's not to

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Speaker 1: disrespect the cops. It's to say, I know you're doing

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Speaker 1: your job, have you've been in order to do it?

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to speak to you. The reason I'll

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Speaker 1: say that is because it would be very very easy

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Speaker 1: to create a perjury trap. In fact, we've done that

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Speaker 1: experiment filling in on this show for Rush God rested him.

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Speaker 1: We did a perjury trap experiment. I even warned the

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Speaker 1: audience that I was going to do a perjury trap

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Speaker 1: with callers, and they still got caught. It's very easy

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Speaker 1: to do when you speak for a living. I am.

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Speaker 1: I'm tremendously sad that you went through that. I so

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Speaker 1: appreciate you speaking out about it, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: this will help, but I'll let you know that you're

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Speaker 1: not alone. There was this goolboard member in ordering Washington,

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Speaker 1: and there's an article about this as a website called

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Speaker 1: we thegovern dot com. He was in Gin. He was

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Speaker 1: in DC in January sixth, but he never went inside,

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Speaker 1: was never in the capitol, stayed on the lawn. Took

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Speaker 1: his son and the FBI contact well. He found out

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Speaker 1: he was an under investigation by the FBI. So he

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Speaker 1: learned about this. He contacted them, and you know, Tom,

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Speaker 1: he said, look, I'll come by your office, you can

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Speaker 1: interview me, and I'll stay as long as you want.

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Speaker 1: And he made that offer. He never heard back from them,

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Speaker 1: but they showed up at his house with armored personnel

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Speaker 1: carriers from the Sheriff's department. They kicked in the door,

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Speaker 1: as I understand it, and then they said we want

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Speaker 1: your gun safe. He said, here's the combination. Open it.

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Speaker 1: They threw the combination away and instead decided to use

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Speaker 1: a welder or something to tear open his gun safe

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Speaker 1: and to throw his belongings all over the place. And

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Speaker 1: obviously they were sending a message you don't even think

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Speaker 1: of questioning the party. Now, do you see how this

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Speaker 1: is all wound back if you've been with us throughout

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Speaker 1: the show to the first hour where we started to

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Speaker 1: talk about the war on skepticism and logic and truth

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Speaker 1: and discernment. So they're either going to do it by

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Speaker 1: taking away our social media presence, or embarrassing us in

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Speaker 1: school boards or calling us names in domestic terrorists, or

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Speaker 1: they're going to do it with methods like that. Much

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Speaker 1: more to come is Todd Herman filling in for Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton on their Very Radio program.