1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody. Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis En 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show kicks off right now. Guilty, Guilty, guilty, 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: all three counts. This is Buck. By the way, Clay 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: is having a day of a tour in colleges with 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: one of his boys, so hopefully having a great time 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: seeing some good schools. He'll be back with us tomorrow. 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: So it is me at the helm. I have the calm, 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: and boy, oh boy, is it quite a day. Hunter Biden, 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: all three counts found guilty. I did call this one, 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: as you know, because you listen and you hear what 11 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: I say on the air. I knew there was no 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: way around this the moment. That and there's other news 13 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: stories we'll get to as well, which I'll line up 14 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: in a second. But I want to dive right into 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden situation, just because this has been a 16 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: long time coming and meaning any semblance of justice in 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden fiasco, although I will tell you this 18 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: is a tinylation of justice. Really it should be much 19 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: much more. I'll get into that. But I knew that 20 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: they were in trouble here. I knew they were in 21 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: trouble when the defense was essentially maybe Hunter, you know, 22 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: wasn't high when he checked the form or something. That's 23 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: that's not a thing. As I said on the on 24 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: the error, I think it was yesterday. If that was 25 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: a if that was a reasonable defense for Hunter, it 26 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: would nullify the entire law. Now, as a quick aside, 27 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: I actually don't like this law. And i'm because I 28 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: believe in principle and honesty. I don't like this law. 29 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: I don't think that people in states where, for example, 30 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: they have a medical marijuana and they have legalized it 31 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: at the state level, you're still in violation of federal law. 32 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: And there's it's a mess. Okay, the law is a mess. 33 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: It needs to be cleaned up. Put that aside, though, 34 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: why am I telling you that this is just a 35 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: little bit, a little bit of justice for the situation here. 36 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: The most egregious crime that Hunter Biden has committed as 37 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: a matter of statute, but more importantly, the one that 38 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: matters to all of us, isn't checking some form about 39 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: his buying of a handgun years ago. I frankly don't care. 40 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: The law is the law they tell us. They certainly 41 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: told us that about Trump. So this is what the 42 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: system is supposed to produce under this circumstance a guilty verdict. 43 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: The facts were not in dispute. This is very obvious, 44 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: but the most the most egregious thing that Hunter Biden 45 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: has done is money laundering to hide the selling out 46 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: of his country to foreign interests through the promise of 47 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: access to his father than the vice president and now 48 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: the president. That's what really should upset the American people 49 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: the most, and that is why the media won't touch it. 50 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: There won't be any prosecution under that. The tax case, 51 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: which I believe is set to start September fifth in 52 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: Los Angeles or Los Angeles County, that's just a personal 53 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: matter for Hunter Biden not paying taxes. Again, a very 54 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: straightforward case. The facts are not in dispute. Did he file? 55 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: Did he pay? No? No illegal can't do that, So 56 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: what really remains in dispute? I know they are allegations, 57 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: but when the facts aren't in dispute, they're just going 58 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: to try to plead. I think, well, I don't know 59 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: if they'll take a plea bargain, but they're going to 60 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: try to plead. If they take it all the way 61 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: to trial, that Hunter is a mess. That Hunter is 62 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: a sad individual and they want to play the sympathy card. 63 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: So many thoughts come up during this, But first I 64 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: don't want us to lose sight of the fact that 65 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: this is still in incredibly lenient. Overall, Hunter Biden's treatment 66 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: is incredibly lenient because a decision was made to sit 67 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: on the most serious charges such that the statute of 68 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: limitations would run, and they tried to make this whole 69 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: thing go away. But the way in which they did 70 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: it would have so made a mockery of the court. 71 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: And we discussed this at length here, Clay and I 72 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: did on air. They tried to plead to one thing 73 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,119 Speaker 1: and then throw the gun charge into that plea without 74 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: really addressing it on an addendum page. I mean, it 75 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: was so slimy with all of this. Though Hunter Biden 76 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: is still has still been treated with kid gloves. He 77 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: has been able to get away with breaking laws and 78 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: honestly selling out his country for years. Right, you don't 79 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: just take money from Chinese communist backed business interests, millions 80 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: of dollars of it, you know, because because what? Because why? 81 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: We also know that Joe Biden had a very bizarre 82 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: habit of keeping classified information that he knew was classified 83 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: on HND. Who does that? What's the motivation for that? 84 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: I know he thinks he's above the law, and Joe 85 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: Biden has been above the law up to this point, 86 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: and that may continue. Unfortunately, Why would he risk violations 87 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: of the Espionage Act? Class by information? I used to 88 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: read it eight hours a day basically, or you know, 89 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: all day long when I was in the CIA. Usually 90 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: not that interesting. And it also erodes over time, meaning 91 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: it's far less interesting and sensitive as years go by. 92 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: So why is it that Joe Biden would keep that? 93 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: I don't have the answer, but I just would note. 94 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: You have a son who is taking millions of dollars 95 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: from our primary adversary, and you have the dad taking 96 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: classified home and being reckless with it. And the only 97 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: defense for him is my brain doesn't work so good 98 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: because I'm too old. And the defense for a hunter 99 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: Biden is my brain doesn't work so good because I'm 100 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: an addict. And we're seeing a pattern here right, We're 101 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: seeing that there isn't actually any accountability. There isn't justice 102 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: being done. This is at a bare minimum what the 103 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: system would have to turn out this guilty verdict or else. 104 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: The whole thing is a joke or else. We're at 105 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: a point where nothing, you know, nothing matters in the 106 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: justice system, like you know, it's just all pure politics. Now, 107 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: there's no This couldn't have been a more obvious, open 108 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: and shut case. The fact that Hunter even took it 109 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: to trial is indicative, I think of what the political 110 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: necessities are for the Democrat Party. I'm sure he talked 111 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: to his dad about this, or there was discussions with 112 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: some of Joe's handlers. Has to be a sympathy call, 113 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: has to be a sympathy case, and that's what they've 114 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: been saying. And I've even seen some commentators who are 115 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: Democrats or left of center types are saying, Oh, but 116 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,239 Speaker 1: I'm just so sad for Hunter. I'm so sad for 117 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: you know, what he's going through here in the whole case. 118 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: And I sit here and I say, where was all 119 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: this sympathy from any of these commentators, from any of 120 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: these Democrat reporters or anchors or politicians for nonviolent January 121 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: sixth offenders whose lives were ruined, who were put in 122 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: solitary confinement, who had federal judges while they were in 123 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: solitary confinement in one case claim that the reason they 124 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: had to be held in solitary was that they were 125 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: still a threat of insurrection against the Republic. Some middle 126 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: aged woman with a fanny pack on who took a 127 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: selfie inside the Capitol because things got a little too 128 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: rowdy that day was a threat to overthrow the government 129 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: by herself if she was let out, or a guy 130 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: under the same situation, same circumstances. Where was the sympathy 131 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: for them? You know, this is where I have to 132 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: say it becomes a more difficult proposition sometimes as an American, 133 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: as a Conservative, as a Christian, as a human being, 134 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: of course, I want to have sympathy for people who 135 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: are in difficult situations. I try to always bring a 136 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: sympathetic mind to this show. But the other side of 137 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: the political spectrum has decided that this is the ground 138 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: upon which the fight will be waged. Law fair. They 139 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: are using the law as a weapon against their political adversaries. 140 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: So if we don't insist that the same is done 141 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: in response to even the most leading, ephemeral minor violation 142 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: of statute, how are we ever going to be able 143 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: to bring this country back to sanity in the justice system. 144 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: If they can continue to get away with everything and 145 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: we are full to defend everything. How are we able 146 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: to reach any kind of truce? If you will, a 147 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: legal truce going forward? Now the only way that this 148 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: can get better, and it is going to get worse, 149 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: I will have you note before it gets better, I 150 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: will take I'll take calls on this today. I think 151 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: this is going to be part of the rationale very 152 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: possibly for more severely punishing Trump. Don't think that this 153 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: just passes unnoticed. Now it's going to be see Hunter 154 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: Biden is convicted and he faces judgment. I made the 155 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: prediction on the show that he would be convicted. I 156 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: also made the prediction on the show that he will 157 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: be subject to home confinement and drug treatment. I don't 158 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: think Hunter Biden spends one single day in a prison cell. 159 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: Not one. And of course we'll discuss this too. But 160 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: the notion that Joe Biden's not going to pardon his 161 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,599 Speaker 1: son is laughable, right, I mean it's laughable. Everyone knows that, 162 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 1: even the Democrats, no one in the commentariat who has 163 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,479 Speaker 1: an IQ that is, you know, well above room temperature 164 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: thinks that Joe Biden isn't going to pardon his son. 165 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: Of course, he's going to pardon his son. But they're 166 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 1: hoping that it'll be after the election, and who will care? Right, 167 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: whether Joe wins or loses is going to pardon him? 168 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: Who will care won't make any difference. It'll be like 169 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: so many other things Democrats tell you that will never happen. 170 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: I swear, how could you that'll never yet happen? That 171 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: it was a good thing that had happened. It's one 172 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 1: of their favorite games to play. It's one of the 173 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: things unfortunately they do so well. So will I can 174 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: tell you that the right verdict was reached here. This 175 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: is part of a much larger battle. Let's be honest. 176 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: We still have the sentencing of Donald Trump coming up. 177 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: We still do not have Hunter Biden receiving any kind 178 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: of real punishment yet, we don't know. I think it 179 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: will be quite light. I could be wrong. We don't 180 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: have Hunter Biden facing the music though, for what is 181 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: as I said, most damaging and most serious and most 182 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: politically volatile, which is the selling of access to his 183 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: dad to foreign nations. Now, I know they'll say, well, 184 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: access pedaling, that's not illegal. Actually, Foreign Agent Registration Act 185 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: is illegal, and it used to be not a big deal. 186 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: But going back to law fair, going back to fighting 187 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: fire with fire, they decided that when it came to 188 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: Paul Manifort and others, that Pharaoh was a very serious crime. 189 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: Well those are the rules now, right, that's what's going on. 190 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: We can't all of a sudden have a unilateral enforcement 191 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: of a law or a one sided enforcement of that law. 192 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden certainly violated Pharaoh. They've let the statute limitations 193 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: run out on that. And he was certainly selling access. 194 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: Remember he wasn't selling access to Switzerland, and he wasn't 195 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: selling access to Costa Rica. It's not like this is 196 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: some country that just wanted to get a photo op 197 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: with Biden, maybe for one of their ministers or something. 198 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: He was selling access to our biggest adversary, to the 199 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: one who's trying to push our policies and directions that 200 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: weaken us and that make them more able to compete 201 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: with us economically and yes, eventually militarily. And he did 202 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: it to the tune of millions and millions of dollars, 203 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: and his dad knew about it. And this is why 204 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: when we talk about the Biden crime family now a 205 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: matter of records, there is crime in that family convicted. 206 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: When we talk about the Biden crime family, it is 207 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: important to remember the full scope of what they have done, 208 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: the depth of the betrayal of the American people, and 209 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: the way this is playing out in the court is 210 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: important to follow closely, and we should be prepared. We 211 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: are going to take more hits on our side from 212 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: this too. The Democrats are ferociously insane when it comes 213 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: to Trump, as you are well aware, and they can 214 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: justify anything in their minds if it means that Trump 215 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: won't win and Republicans will suffer. But the full scale 216 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: of Biden's betrayal of this country is something that will 217 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: become easier for us to talk about now that we 218 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: see their lies. But Hunter did nothing wrong. Joe Biden 219 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: said that, of course that was a lie. Hunter Biden 220 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: committed no crimes. Of course that was a lie. 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I got a lot to 272 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: talk to you about the huge breaking news from just 273 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: about an hour before the show started today, Hunter Biden 274 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: guilty on all three counts. A lot of in depth 275 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: analysis on that in the first hour. If you missed 276 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: that Clay end Buck podcast, great place to go listen 277 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: on demand. A few things I want to add to it, 278 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: and we'll return in the third hour, probably to more 279 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: of the political implications and if the White House has 280 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: some kind of statement on it or other things. A 281 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: few things that I just wanted to note. One is 282 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: what is the establishment response to this in the media. 283 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: What does the Lib media do when the Hunter Biden 284 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: indictment comes down and guilty Verick rather comes down in 285 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: this way. Well, NBC's Chuck Todd has said that it 286 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: is a quote really good day for the American system. Hmm. 287 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: This is an indicator of what I've been saying for 288 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: a while now, which is that they have in their minds, 289 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: the Democrats, this is all about power and the Democrat 290 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: agenda maintaining the power that it has in the White 291 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: House and to the degree that it has in Congress 292 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: as well. This is all about that. Nothing else really matters. 293 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: In fact, no individual matters them. The Democrats do not 294 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: care about Joe Biden. They care about a Democrat being 295 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: in the White House. They care about the machine being 296 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: able to operate, to crush opposition and to continue with 297 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: its honestly increasingly insane policy directives and authoritarian impulses. Right, 298 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: that's what the goal is. And to that end, I 299 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: don't know how many of you play chess. I gotta 300 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: say I've got a nice chess set here. I've actually 301 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: taught carry how to play, and I used to. I 302 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,959 Speaker 1: played chess a bit growing up. I took chess lessons. 303 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: I know, it sounds like I was getting wedgies in 304 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: the locker room all the time. That actually wasn't true. 305 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: I was a pretty normal kid, but I did take 306 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: chess lessons. But in chess, as you know, pawns sometimes 307 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: have to be sacrificed to take the king from from 308 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: the other side of the of the board, or to 309 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: protect your own king. Right, pawns will be sacrificed in this. 310 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: There is no love lost. I think there is no 311 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: loyalty to Hunter Biden that comes up with any of this. 312 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: It's really just about what the implications are for Joe 313 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: and his election and the Democrat apparatus. And so as 314 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: long as they think they have successfully walled off damage 315 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: to Joe, they're willing. They're willing to just let the 316 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: chips fall where they may with Hunter until he gets 317 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: part in, which is going to happen after the election. Okay, 318 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: that's the short version of it. I wanted to dive 319 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: into the This ties into Biden, obviously, but what Mayorcas 320 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: recently said, he's a Secretary of Homeland Security, as you know, 321 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 1: an entity that is so big now I can't even 322 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:14,959 Speaker 1: name off the top of my head all the different 323 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 1: agencies and things that are in DHS. But here's the 324 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: way that it's shared to you by the media generally speaking, 325 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: there's a problem at the border, and we all say, 326 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, they admit it. There's a problem at 327 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: the border. The problem, as Democrats understand it, is twofold one. 328 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: You see, there's a problem, meaning the American people recognize 329 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: eight to ten million illegals in four years seems like 330 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: a lot, and there's an election coming up, So for them, 331 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: there's the political liability. The political risk factor of this 332 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: is important. But then if you're looking at the real 333 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: mechanics of what's going on at the border, what are 334 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: they troubled by, it's harder to pro says these illegals faster. 335 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: They don't want the scam to end. They want to 336 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: hide the illegal immigration scam from you and make it 337 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: easier to bring more illegals into the country under the 338 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: pretense that they're legal. This is where a bit of 339 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: the complexity comes in, and this is where you have 340 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: to really be attuned to the issue to see it. 341 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: But let's just remember the people who are coming into 342 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: the country the way they are getting around the basic 343 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: need to come into a legal port of entry and 344 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: have a legal reason to be in the country or 345 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: you know, a legal invitation of some kind if you will, 346 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: a visa or something. Is they claim to be asylum seekers. 347 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: They say that I need asylum in your country. They're lying. 348 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: Overwhelmingly ninety percent plus of them don't qualify for asylum, 349 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:01,479 Speaker 1: but they know that the system is so flooded that 350 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: it will take years before their asylum claims are hurt. 351 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: They will at that point have had the opportunity to 352 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: get married and have a kid and start you know, 353 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: you know, working or collecting you know, checks from the 354 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: government or whatever. But they'll already be deeply entrenched enough 355 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: that it will be almost impossible at that point to 356 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: say no, you actually have to go back. Remember, I'm 357 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: not suggesting that people who are illegal should be treated poorly. 358 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting that they should be incarcerated or I mean, 359 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: it's illegal, but you know that they should serve long 360 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: prison sentences or anything like that at all. But they 361 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: do need to go back to their home countries or else. 362 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: We need to change the laws that say that, because 363 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: the law currently says they're not allowed to stay, and 364 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: we can't have federal laws that are pick and choose 365 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: as you go, and that is what Democrats want. They 366 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: are perpetuating the foundational fraud of this, effectively, this fake 367 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: asylum crisis. And one of the ways that they're doing 368 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: this now is this is Secretary of Homeland Security may 369 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: work Us, who's telling everybody that they are building. They 370 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: don't want them to just show up anymore. They're saying, 371 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: so they're going to have mobility offices in a bunch 372 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: of countries to our south that tell people or that 373 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: allow people to start trying to apply to come into 374 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: the country. This is cut five play it. 375 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 3: We have increased the number of refugees that we will 376 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 3: accept from the western hemisphere. We have built safe mobility 377 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 3: offices in Colombia, Ecuador, Guatemala, Costa Rica to reach people 378 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 3: where they are so they don't have to take the 379 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 3: perilous journey. 380 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: The perilous journey he talks about. They are setting up 381 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: what they're calling lawful pathways. Effectively, this is like the 382 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: refugee KIOSK program. Now you might if you're familiar with this, 383 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: and again if you claim you need to be in 384 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: America for reasons of persecution on US soil you have entered. 385 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: And this comes back to when people would you know, 386 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: jump off a boat if they were in the coastline 387 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: sight of the US and they would get on land, 388 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: they'd say I need asylum. Asylum and refugee status are 389 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: two sides of the same coin. Refugee means somewhere you've 390 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: applied from somewhere else, Asylum as you're here and you're 391 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: saying you need the same status, but it is an 392 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 1: end run on the normal immigration system because of exigent, 393 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: extreme circumstances. We have these historically, we have these programs 394 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: in place so that someone who says I speak out 395 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: on you know, on behalf of human rights in Uganda 396 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: or Pakistan or wherever, and if you guys don't take me, 397 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get tortured and killed and probably my whole 398 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: family too. We say we're America, We're the good guys. Okay, 399 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: under those circumstances, you don't have to wait ten years 400 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,479 Speaker 1: and go through all the things the legal migrant dude, 401 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: you get to just come to America because it's an emergency. 402 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: It's almost like think about like emergency room care. You 403 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: go into the hospital, you got a gunshot wound in 404 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: your shoulder, that they treat you. They're not sitting there like, oh, 405 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: but what's your insurance card? Or maybe they do, but 406 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: they shouldn't. But you know, if you go in and 407 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: you say, look, you know, my knee kind of aches, 408 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: you know, well, there's a lot of people that want 409 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: to do an orthoscopic knee surgery. You're going to wait 410 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: six months, right, that's in Canada. But you get what 411 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So we have this system in place already. 412 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: The reason we have the problem is so many people 413 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: are abusing the system and lying. They are lying. They 414 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: are not fleeing persecution directed at them for an immutable 415 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: characteristic or political leaders or anything else. They just want 416 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: to come to America because we are the rich place 417 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: where we're giving away free stuff. And as I said, 418 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: this is massively different from the previous way wave of migration, 419 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: which were a fraction of what has occurred. You know, 420 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: we think about all the people flooding into America, and 421 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: you know, and the pioneers and Ellis Island. Do you 422 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: think about all that stuff, the amount that we've taken 423 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: in the last twenty years, No country of this size 424 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: in the history of the world has ever changed its 425 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: population as rapidly as we have. We this whole thing 426 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: is entirely on prepped with foreigners, entirely unprecedented. So anyone 427 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: tells you all, but this is We're a nation of immigrants, 428 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: and no, no, this is completely different in scale, in intent, 429 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: in economic reality. It's a wholly different moment in time 430 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: and our history. So then why am I pointing out 431 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: the majorcas, what are the mobility centers. Well, here's what's 432 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: going to happen. One of two things. They're either going 433 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: to process a whole lot of people as refugees. Right, 434 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna say, Okay, well, you know you showed up 435 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: at our mobility center, so now and then, by the way, 436 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: is game over. They get to stay in the country forever. 437 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: Or if they are serious about refugee status vetting and 438 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: you know, we used to take it. I have to 439 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: check the numbers, but it's very It's actually used to 440 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: be very hard to come into the country as a refugee. 441 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: You had to really prove it, and there were asylum 442 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: officers that you would have to meet with and you'd 443 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: have to show up, you know. Now it's the whole thing. 444 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: They've just they've lowered the bar so much. Then that's 445 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: what's caused the flood. But if they do what they're 446 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: supposed to do, if majorcas DHS and I have very 447 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: little faith that this will happen, but let's just say 448 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: that they do. It's an election year, maybe they try 449 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: this for a little while, which is they demand there 450 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:52,239 Speaker 1: to be actual proof of this asylum or refugee claim. Well, 451 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: the refugee claim for the mobility centers right foreign or 452 00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: external refugee, internal asylum. If they do that, you know 453 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: what happens. The word's gonna get out and they're all 454 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: just gonna keep showing up at the southern border. How 455 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: do you stop it? Then you might be asking me 456 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: a buck, how do you stop it? Well? Ah, yes, 457 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: you have to take people who have abused the system 458 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: and come into the country illegally and calmly, in the 459 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: most humanitarian fashion possible, take them back to their country 460 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: of origin and nationality and say we wish you the 461 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: best of luck. If you don't do that, all this 462 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: other stuff is just for show. Mobility centers, Oh, we 463 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: hope they don't make the periless journey. If they don't 464 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: win at the mobility center, they're gonna make the perilous journey. 465 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying here. This doesn't stop anything. 466 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: And I think what Biden's gonna do is as soon 467 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: as let's say he wins I know, Evan forbid, Let's 468 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: say he wins reelection or Kamala wins or whatever, then 469 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: the Democrats will say, oh, these mobility centers, this is great, 470 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: They're good, he said, at the beginning of that sound 471 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: by you heard him, we're taking more refugees. They're gonna 472 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: take even more refugees, and now they'll have external foreign 473 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: processing centers to rubb or stant them. And so border 474 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: patrol isn't even gonna be a component of this. They're 475 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: gonna fly directly into the United States. Here, I am 476 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: your government mobility office said, I get to stay. What 477 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: they show you over and over again is that the 478 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: Democrat elites, the Democrat apparatus, does not want to stop 479 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: tens of millions of illegal aliens from flooding the United States, 480 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: it now and in the years ahead. They don't want 481 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: this to stop. Joe Biden, the Democrats, the Pelosi Schumer 482 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: AOC Democrats, however you want to describe who's in charge now, 483 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: they don't actually seek to make this process end. They 484 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: do not want to do deportations in a number, in 485 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: the numbers that would turn the tide around, would say, 486 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: I have a very low chance of being able to 487 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: gain the system and stay. They think that we owe 488 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: the world this. They think that they're changing the electorates 489 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: so they'll stay in power forever. With this. Every incentive 490 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: in their minds in the Democrat mind right now, at 491 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: least the Democrats system. There are some Democrats who are like, wait, 492 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: this maybe is not in the middle toward the middle. 493 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: This might not be a great idea. The Democrats view 494 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: the flooding of the American American polity with illegals, with 495 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: foreigners who have no allegiance to this country other than hey, 496 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: I get to be in this safe, secure place. Do 497 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: we ever get to talk about why America is so 498 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: rich and secure and safe, like, what have we done 499 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: so well? 500 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 4: No? 501 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: In fact, the Democrats want everyone who comes here to think, oh, 502 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: we owe this to that because we made all the 503 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: other places, you know, poor and corrupt. Then it's all 504 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: our fault, so we owe them this. It's one thing 505 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: you sit there and say, if everyone who's arriving illegally 506 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: is being hold they're owed this and their home country 507 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: because of you know, US policy in the in the 508 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: fifties or sixties or whatever. Is the reason that their 509 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: countries are, you know, not so good. Does that mean 510 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: that they're really going to want to assimilate and be 511 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: a part of the American family in a way that 512 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: we have continuity, rule of law, shared history, shared ideology, 513 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: shared culture. I don't think so. You're creating, effectively a 514 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: fifth column of people who come into the country who 515 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: won't be able to compete economically, who don't have any 516 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: ties to the nation ideologically, spiritually, legally, and who are 517 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: going to start saying themselves, you know, I just want 518 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: to get mine. I just want to get whatever I can. 519 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: You know, just milk this cow and just don't worry 520 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: about anything else that's not good. We can't afford it. 521 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: We can't afford the people say, oh, they pay taxes. 522 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: I whatever, I hear this, I want to jump through 523 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: the roof. Half of Americans don't pay federal income taxes. 524 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: You think the illegals are going to be a net a. 525 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: This is like the Cato libertarian line, Oh makes the 526 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: economy bigger. Who's going to pay for all this stuff? 527 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: The free housing, the free food, the free medical care, 528 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: The English is a second language training in school that 529 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: could go down the list you are. That's the part 530 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: of this they don't tell you about. We'll take your 531 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: calls on this. Eight hundred two A two two eight 532 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: A two. I think it might be the most important 533 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: thing going on in the country right now that in 534 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: the debt we'll discuss it. But another thing that's really important, 535 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: actually just as important, the fight for life. Just two 536 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: years ago that the Supreme Court overturned the Row v. 537 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: Way decision and return that to states, to the individual states, right, 538 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: But tragically this didn't lower the abortion rate. In fact, 539 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, it increased. What can we do? Yeah, 540 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: there's of course the battle in the courts, there's the 541 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: legal fight ahead, there's the political fight ahead. But how 542 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: do you save as many lives as you can right now? Today? 543 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: That's where Preborn comes in. Preborn provides women with free 544 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: ultrasounds so they can meet their unborn children before making 545 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: that critical decision life or abortion. Because when a mother 546 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: meets her baby on ultrasound, here's their heartbeat, she is 547 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: twice as likely to choose life. I know so many 548 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: of you are ardent members of the pro life community, 549 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: and voting for life is of course important, But can 550 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: you donate for life as well? Do you have anything 551 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: to spare? Some of you might be ten dollars, some 552 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: of you might be ten thousand dollars, and I know 553 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: that that might sound insane, but it's not, because we've 554 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,239 Speaker 1: gotten donations of that size and thank you for that. 555 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,479 Speaker 1: Think of how many lives, how many lives you are 556 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: helping to save. It's one hundred percent tax deductible, and 557 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: it goes to this incredibly worthy cause. Donate right now 558 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: from your phone dial pound two five zero, say the 559 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: keyword baby. That's pound two five zero, say baby. Or 560 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: you can donate securely at preborn dot com slash buck 561 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: that's preborn dot com, slash b u c K sponsored 562 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: by Preborn. 563 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 2: Clay Travis and Buck Sextons. 564 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: That never sounded so good. 565 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 2: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 566 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 2: get your podcasts. 567 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: All Right, So, I sometimes hesitate to give more attention 568 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: to the antics and underhanded tactics of the left because 569 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to bring more attention to it. But 570 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: on the other hand, they're doing things and we need 571 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: to know about it, right, So I can kind of 572 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: get caught between two minds on it. I'm in this 573 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: case going to spend a little bit of time on 574 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: this effort to embarrass Justice, Alito's wife Martha and Alito, 575 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: and I think it's, first of all, it's a reminder 576 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: of the left tactics. We'll start with that, and then 577 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: it's also a reminder of what they think of the 578 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: Supreme Court and what their plans are. But let me 579 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: just start with this. They will do extreme things to 580 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: try to humiliate people, even people who aren't public figures, 581 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: if they think that somehow it scores points for their team. 582 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,959 Speaker 1: I remember back in the twenty eighteen twenty nineteen period 583 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: of the Trump administration, when I was actually living in 584 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: DC at that time, that there was this movement of 585 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: lunatic Biden voters who would shout at and harass Republicans 586 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 1: in different restaurants. Right, So, if it was Sarah, Sarah Sanders, 587 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: for example, was at a restaurant I think in Virginia 588 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,919 Speaker 1: near DC, and you know, I think actually the owner 589 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: of that restaurant might have told her she wasn't welcome, 590 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: but she was harassed there. Then there was a Ted 591 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:46,240 Speaker 1: Cruz incident, but these maniacs would show up and showed 592 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: at them. The Kirsten Nielsen I think it was, who 593 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: was the ICE director? Happened to her? Do you do? 594 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: I don't even remember Kirsten Nielsen. I think she was 595 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: she Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, maybe she was even acting 596 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: DHS for all. Anyway, it doesn't matter. I've said before 597 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 1: our friend Steven Miller, who we have on the show, 598 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: I found out there were these protests under my window 599 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: that happened a couple of times of just people, just lunatics. 600 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: I mean you look outside and it's it's like you're like, wait, 601 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: it's like, am I like him at a Grateful Dead concert? 602 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,439 Speaker 1: But everybody's angry? You know, there's just people like yay Man, 603 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 1: like he's kind of a vague smell of weed and 604 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: they're kind of dancing around but they're shouting too, and 605 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 1: they're you know, they're banging drums but not in rhythm, 606 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: and well what is Oh, it's a it's a Biden voter, 607 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 1: like a left wing lunatic protest. And they one time, 608 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: I mean it was a little disappointing. I thought they 609 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: were there for me, They were there for Steven Miller. 610 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: They I want to be like, you're not even at 611 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,240 Speaker 1: the right house. You're not even the right house, Libs. 612 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: But isn't that perfect? But they do this because it 613 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: sends a message, the same reason why they deface statues 614 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: and they will mob historical sites and trash them and 615 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: do all these things. Not because they're trying to intimidate, 616 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: and unfortunately that is effective. I mean, Democrats are the 617 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: party of the street mob. That's just who they are there, 618 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 1: the collectivists, right, they're they're the Commis. And so they 619 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 1: went after Justice Alito's wife. If you remember we talked 620 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: about the flag, the controversy. You can't see the scare quotes, 621 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 1: but I'm making big scare quotes there, the controversy of 622 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: a Supreme Court justice's wife flying an appeal to Heaven 623 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: flag on her private property at her own behest and 624 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: the New York Times, you know, I think it was 625 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: like fifteen hundred words, big piece. Oh my gosh, you know, 626 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: she's flying. And they tried what they always do that 627 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: the Commis will do this thing where they'll try to 628 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: change the virtual reality to affect reality, meaning that they'll 629 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: go on Wikipedia. They love to doctor Wikipedia to serve 630 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: the needs of the political moment, right the just like 631 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: the Soviets would doctor their records, and they would I 632 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: think I've mentioned this before. The Soviets even had a 633 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,720 Speaker 1: habit of they would use a razor to remove names 634 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: from things when they had like liquidated people like oh 635 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 1: was that guy part of this Central Committee? I don't 636 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 1: know his name's gone. 637 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 4: Uh. 638 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: So they they like to change things bureaucratically to try 639 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: to change the mindset of the public, and so they 640 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 1: did that with the appeal to have a flag, right. 641 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,919 Speaker 5: It's all it's a right wing symbol as a nationalist, 642 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 5: right right wing, bad people, racist, neo nazi whatever. 643 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 1: The problem with that is that it is a revolutionary 644 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: era flag that George Washington commissioned that was flown on 645 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:47,280 Speaker 1: American ships fighting against the British. Was the British marriage 646 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: I mean sorry, the American maritime flag in Massachusetts. And 647 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: then the real, the real kind of end of that 648 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: whole thing was when we found out I forget who 649 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: was the actually I think it might have been the 650 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 1: San Francisco Chronicle that was like, guys, sorry, but we 651 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 1: got to tell you about this one that they had 652 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: an appeal to have a flag for thirty years at 653 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 1: the City Hall of San Francisco flying. So the racist, 654 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 1: white nationalist, you know, right wing scary flag was. Now 655 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: you remember that we talked with this in the show, 656 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: So it sort of died down a bit. They still 657 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: hate Alito and they hate anyone tied to Alito, and 658 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: that includes his wife, and they did this undercover audio. 659 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: You know, in some states, this is not legal in 660 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,240 Speaker 1: this state. I believe, I think this happened in Virginia. 661 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: I think it's a one party can sen state to recording. 662 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: I have to check, but so I believe that this is, 663 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: you know, legal, but it's there's legal and there's dishonorable, right, 664 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 1: I mean, something can be technically legal, but also like 665 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: truly grotesque. And I think that going up to the 666 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: spout of somebody in public life under false pretenses, pretending 667 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,439 Speaker 1: to be a conservative who agrees them and likes them, 668 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: and then trying to get them to say something you 669 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: can embarrass them with. You know, I don't agree with that. 670 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: And look, I've said before, don't I don't like the 671 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: James O'Keefe thing of having people pretend to be on 672 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: dates and record some low level staffer at CNN and 673 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: get him fired. Like I think it's I think it's dishonorable. 674 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 1: I don't like it's one thing if it's somebody who's 675 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,280 Speaker 1: running you know, abortion mills and the doctors are lying, 676 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: and remember that was the whole thing with the Center 677 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: for Medical Progress. Like if there's a true journalistic reason 678 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: for it. But you know it has to it has 679 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,280 Speaker 1: to reach a standard. It can't just be to embarrass 680 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: somebody because you know you don't like their politics. That's 681 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: my opinion. People can agree or disagree, but you know, 682 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm kind of always right. And here is Martha and Alito. 683 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: This is what they recorded or saying. This was the 684 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: Rolling Stone, which I didn't even know still existed. It 685 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: still exists, apparently. Here is Rolling Stone Magazines, big expose 686 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: on Justice, Alito's wife, the audio, the big moment that 687 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: reveal play sex. 688 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 4: You know what I want. I want a sacred Heart 689 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 4: of Jesus' flag because I had to look across the 690 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 4: lagoon at the Pride flag for the next month exactly. 691 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 3: And he's like, oh, please, don't put up a flag. 692 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 4: I said, I won't do it because I'm deferring to you. 693 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 1: But when you were free of. 694 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 4: This nonsense, I'm putting it up. And I'm going to 695 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 4: send them a message every day, maybe every week. 696 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 1: I'll be changing the flags. 697 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 4: There'll be all kinds of I made a flag in 698 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:30,959 Speaker 4: my head. 699 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: This is how I satisfy myself. 700 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 4: I made a flag. It's white and it's yellow and 701 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 4: orange flames around it and in the middle is the 702 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 4: word vigonia. Virgonia in Italian means shame, virgonia v e 703 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 4: rg o g na vergonia, shame, shame, shame on you. 704 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,720 Speaker 5: I just want to say, what's the problem with Martha 705 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 5: and Alito here? Justice Alito's wife, so that I just 706 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,399 Speaker 5: want to let you know that was the thing though, Oh, 707 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 5: they've exposed Alito's wife in this. 708 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: I don't know. I listened to the whole thing just 709 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: to be clear. I think it's about eight minutes of audio. 710 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: I'm like Martha, Martha and Alito sounds like somebody you'd 711 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 1: want to be your neighbor on your school board, you know, 712 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: maybe teaching your kids in Sunday school. She wants to 713 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: build a Sacred Heart of Jesus flag, and you know, 714 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 1: she thinks that she should be able to put that 715 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: flag up because this month there's a lot of other 716 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 1: flags going up, and you know, we're all supposed to 717 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:29,399 Speaker 1: kind of worship them. I don't know, it depends who 718 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: you ask, But nothing that she says here is worthy 719 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: of the Oh, the outrage that they but it's not 720 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: about what she says. They hate her. Why do they 721 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: hate her? Because she's married to Alito, and because she 722 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 1: clearly share some of the constitutional and pro American values 723 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: and Christian values that she and Alito share. And this 724 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: is a moment where you have to do I remember 725 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: I said, that's the tactics. The tactics is try to undermine, 726 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: try to harm, get close to some relative of a 727 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: you know, famous jurist or an important jurist. I should say, 728 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: he's famous too, but on the Supreme Court, and just 729 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: try to humiliate her in some way. It's funny too 730 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: to me, because anybody, you know, if you talk to 731 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: somebody long enough and you're recording them, I mean, everyone's 732 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 1: gonna say something once in a while that like, maybe 733 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 1: he's a little a little controversial. You know, it's just 734 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 1: the truth. But you know, there's what we say in 735 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: public when we know we're in public, and there's what 736 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 1: we share with family members, and there are limits. I 737 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 1: understand that. But the the situation here is that the 738 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: Left hates the Supreme Court. Right now, you have to 739 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: remember that they hate the Supreme Court because they don't 740 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: control the outcomes from the Supreme Court. So this is 741 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: all part of an overall plan to delegitimize it. To 742 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: put pressure on Roberts, who is a wimp, to put 743 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 1: pressure on any other jurists who start to worry, oh, 744 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 1: how will this reflect on my family or you know, 745 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: and then also eventually to push for the court packing scheme. 746 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,399 Speaker 1: Now they don't talk about it right now because we're 747 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:08,959 Speaker 1: in an election year and they don't have the votes, 748 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 1: but to get a court packing scheme down the line 749 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,720 Speaker 1: to change the Court as it is. They they only 750 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: believe that the Supreme Court. This is important to remember, 751 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,240 Speaker 1: as this is really all Democrats. I've never come across 752 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: a Democrat for whom really this wasn't the case. They 753 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: only believe in the legitimacy of the Supreme Court when 754 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: it gives them what they want. The moment that they 755 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: think it's not giving them what they want, oh it's 756 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: the you know, the right wing majority on the Court 757 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 1: has destroyed it as an institution and we need to 758 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 1: change it. 759 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 4: You know. 760 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 1: It's like children who don't get the toys that they want, 761 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they just pout because for 762 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 1: a long time they were getting the policies that they 763 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: couldn't get through the elector they were getting it delivered 764 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: to them via the Supreme Court that became really one 765 00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: of their favorite tools of policymaking. It has finally, thank 766 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 1: you Donald Trump for the nominees he put on the 767 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: court for defeating Hillary Clinton, finally put a stop to that. 768 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: But the things that the Court has had to undo. 769 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 1: Abortion as a federal right, that's insane. That's insane. The 770 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,280 Speaker 1: people who are defending that as a matter of lawge jokes, 771 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: either intellectually dishonest or just not very smart. That's insane. 772 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 1: The regime of college affirmative action, which we still have 773 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,879 Speaker 1: a lot of work to do on that, by the way, 774 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: it's just flatly racial discrimination. Doesn't matter that you're discriminating 775 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 1: for people that you think have historically been discriminated against 776 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,399 Speaker 1: or whatever. It's wrong, it's racist. You can't do it. 777 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 1: Supreme Court's finally stepped in and said that there's a 778 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: lot more that's coming. But really the ultimate one is 779 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 1: I think that there is a fear that is growing 780 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 1: right now on the left that the Supreme Court will 781 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: deliver Trump from the ultimate legal trap that the traps 782 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 1: really that they are setting for him, and so to 783 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,800 Speaker 1: set the stage for the dealge unimizing of the Court 784 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: to help the emotionally unstable Democrats somehow believe that even 785 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: if the court strikes down their efforts to destroy Donald 786 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 1: Trump in an election year, it's not real, it's not fair, 787 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: all that stuff. That's why this is happening. And they're 788 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 1: going to continue to do this. They're going to put 789 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 1: pressure on spouses probably you know, adult children or I 790 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: don't know, whoever they can to try to leverage this 791 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: moment or try to leverage whatever power they have against 792 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. So it just shows you how dirty 793 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 1: they're willing to play and the lengths the extremes that 794 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: they are willing to go to. And we need to 795 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: be prepared for this and then understand what we are 796 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 1: up against here. There is they operate when it comes 797 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 1: to a legal system that democrates. Democrats operate with the 798 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: bare minimum of good faith or faith at all necessary 799 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 1: to continue to use the system as a club against 800 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 1: their opponents. The only reason they don't throw the whole 801 00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: thing out is they don't have the power to throw 802 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: the whole thing but they will use it and abuse 803 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 1: it to the greatest extent possible and feel entirely justified 804 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 1: in doing so. And anything that stands in the way 805 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 1: of that. In this case, the Supreme Court is to 806 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,799 Speaker 1: them something to be changed or destroyed. All right, let's 807 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 1: talk about sports fans for a second. 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Find 837 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 2: it on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get 838 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 2: your podcasts. 839 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back in everybody, very please to have joining us. 840 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 1: A dear friend of mine for twenty years from my 841 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 1: time back in the government. Nathan Kinnastero is with this. 842 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,760 Speaker 1: He is currently on assignment to the National Intelligence Council. 843 00:47:54,880 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 1: Twenty five years experience writing about military operations for policymakers 844 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 1: in the US government. His book is The Mighty Move, 845 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 1: which I have for you who can see it on 846 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 1: the video live stream here, The Mighty Move. Nate my 847 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,439 Speaker 1: man great to have you on and congratulations of the book. 848 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 1: I read it. It's fantastic. 849 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,319 Speaker 6: Well, Fanks, fuck, I really do you appreciate the opportunity 850 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,320 Speaker 6: to be here. I'm glad you glad you enjoyed the book. 851 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 1: Tell me about what led you to write about the mood, 852 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,320 Speaker 1: you know, cause it's funny. My grandfather. We actually have 853 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:28,839 Speaker 1: some calls just so you know, Nate, we're not going 854 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 1: to get you right now. We already have people who 855 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: have relatives who served on the Move who are calling 856 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 1: in just so you know. So that's fantastic. Yeah, they're 857 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 1: excited about this book. My grandfather served on the Batan, 858 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,839 Speaker 1: one of these LVC carriers write these converted carriers tell 859 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,799 Speaker 1: people about the origins of the Mighty Moo. 860 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:48,240 Speaker 3: Sure. 861 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 6: Well, I mean I got started looking into the Mighty 862 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 6: Move because my grandfather served aboard, and you know, he was, 863 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,879 Speaker 6: like a lot of men of his generation, he just 864 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 6: he didn't want to talk about the war, but he 865 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 6: would just sort of hints at some of the things 866 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,399 Speaker 6: that had happened to him. Obviously, you know, he'd seen 867 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 6: some action and there'd been some trauma there. 868 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 1: But for a guy like me. 869 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 6: Who's interested in military history, and he grew up with 870 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 6: band of brothers and you know, saving Private Ryan. The 871 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 6: idea that there was a story here that you know, 872 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,480 Speaker 6: he wasn't telling me was kind of catnip, and I 873 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 6: really wanted to look into it. So when he died 874 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,320 Speaker 6: in twenty ten, I started, you know, sort of pulling 875 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 6: on that thread. And the story that I found was 876 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 6: I just kind of blew my mind, you know. It 877 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 6: It was a ship that the Navy didn't want you, 878 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 6: with a captain who was nearly scapegoaded for loss of 879 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 6: his last command. The crew had been in uniform barely 880 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,919 Speaker 6: longer than the ship had been afloat, The pilots self 881 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 6: trained on the planes they'd fly into battle, and you know, 882 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,720 Speaker 6: her first few months in service, she had this terrible jinx, 883 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 6: this awful streak of bad luck. And yet despite that, 884 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 6: this ship that nobody expected that much from went on 885 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 6: to sort of earn a tremendous combat record, survived a 886 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 6: terrible typhoon, and ended up the own the US aircraft 887 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 6: carrier in Tokyo Bay to see the Japanese surrender. So 888 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 6: it's it's it's quite an underdog story. 889 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,760 Speaker 1: You know. I remember my grandfather toward the end he passed. 890 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,760 Speaker 1: Uh passed away about a decade ago, but I remember 891 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,760 Speaker 1: one of the only he spoke about being in a typhoon. 892 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 1: Once again, this was on the Batan, not the move, 893 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,879 Speaker 1: but also the only time I ever talked I ever 894 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,440 Speaker 1: heard him really talk about combat and Nate. It just 895 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 1: he was he was in a wheelchair. He had a 896 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 1: blanket and you'll know this blanket that I got from Afghanistan, 897 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,319 Speaker 1: which he always kind of treasured across his knees, you know. 898 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 1: And he he started talking about combat in Lati Gulf 899 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 1: and I know that, and and the Japanese swooping in 900 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 1: and trying to take out the carriers cowpens or the 901 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,880 Speaker 1: move rather mighty moo. Was that was that laty? Yes? 902 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 6: Yes, and the same typhoon. You know, that was what 903 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,880 Speaker 6: my grandfather spoke about. He wouldn't talk about the combat. 904 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,440 Speaker 6: But you know, actually all the veterans I've talked to, 905 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 6: they were remaining from the move, they all said the 906 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,919 Speaker 6: same thing. The typhoon just was the most terrifying bit 907 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,400 Speaker 6: of their time aboard. You know, the ships were narrow, 908 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 6: they're tall, They've got a high center of gravity, so 909 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 6: they're tippy, you know, they didn't do well in high seas. 910 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,839 Speaker 6: And you're going into a storm with seventy to ninety 911 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 6: foot waves and winds of one hundred to one hundred 912 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 6: and twenty knots, and the ship is rolling forty five 913 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 6: degrees to either side. You know, the edge of the 914 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,400 Speaker 6: flight deck is going into the ocean. 915 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:32,440 Speaker 1: You know, this is the. 916 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 6: Flight deck is seventy feet above the water and normal seas, 917 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 6: the guys in the bridge could actually reach out and 918 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 6: touch the waves they were rolling so badly. And then 919 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 6: down in the magazine, you know, they were stocked with 920 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 6: bombs to support the you know, the do air support 921 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 6: for the fighting in Leisa, and the bombs broke loose, 922 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,720 Speaker 6: so you've got five hundred thousand, two thousand pound bumps 923 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 6: rolling back and forth across the floor and the crew 924 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 6: had to rush into the magazine with rope and try 925 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 6: and lash these things into place. So absolutely terrifying experience. 926 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 6: And the closest of close calls and three destroyers capsized 927 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,839 Speaker 6: in that storm. Killed it was eight hundred guys. I mean, 928 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,840 Speaker 6: this is we taught. We think about the combat, you know, 929 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,240 Speaker 6: layte golf, but the storm was really something. 930 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's interesting you know, I was thinking about 931 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,880 Speaker 1: how how you could pitch this Nate for the eventual series, 932 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, Kerrie and I you know, you know, carry 933 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,919 Speaker 1: my Wife where We've decided we're going to go back 934 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 1: and give Masters of the Air another chance after having 935 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 1: a couple of week episodes. But you know, the aerial 936 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 1: combat stuff I think is very well done in it. 937 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 1: But if we if we were pitching Mighty Mood to 938 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,279 Speaker 1: a studio, I would say you could take it a 939 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 1: couple directions. One, it's you know, it's a little bit 940 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 1: like Band of Brothers, but you know on an aircraft 941 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 1: carry in the Pacific, that's one way to go. Or 942 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 1: it's like Moneyball. But US Navy World War Two, because 943 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,480 Speaker 1: this ship wasn't supposed to be much of anything, there 944 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 1: were questions about it even seeing any action, right, Yeah, you. 945 00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 6: Know, these to be perfectly blood. These guys were second straight. 946 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,319 Speaker 6: You know, if you were a Naval Academy grad, if 947 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 6: you were you know, a professional sailor, you're going to say, 948 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,279 Speaker 6: you know, one of the best of the best, you're 949 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 6: gonna be on one of the big carriers. So, you know, 950 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 6: Captain McConnell, the first the ship's first captain seventy percent 951 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 6: of the guys who went aboard his boat in ship 952 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 6: in forty three had never been to sea at all. 953 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,400 Speaker 6: So he had this green mob of people who, you know, 954 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 6: most of these guys were. The crew was seventeen or 955 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,959 Speaker 6: eighteen years old, the pilots were twenty one to twenty three. 956 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,359 Speaker 6: They did total newbies to the Navy, and he had 957 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 6: to make an effective wartime team out of it and 958 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 6: did a really good job in a remarkably short period 959 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 6: of time. So, and I think that's one of the 960 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,279 Speaker 6: things that I found neatest about this story was, you 961 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,360 Speaker 6: know how it's almost a coming of age. You know, 962 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,239 Speaker 6: You've got these guys that never never, not much as 963 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,400 Speaker 6: expected of them, and yet they sort of grew into 964 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 6: this role and had this tremendous opportunity to make a 965 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:57,319 Speaker 6: difference there in the Pacific War. 966 00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know, when I was reading it, just 967 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,000 Speaker 1: the detail you go into everything from you know, how 968 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,160 Speaker 1: they entertain themselves on ship to the food. You know, 969 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 1: where was the food good, where was the food bad? 970 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you really feel like you get a deep 971 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 1: dive into what it would be like to have been 972 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 1: on a carrier in the Pacific in the Second World War. So, Nate, congratulations, 973 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 1: My friend Nathan kind of starrow your great book here. 974 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,720 Speaker 1: The Mighty Move is the title. It's a fun title, 975 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,759 Speaker 1: story of the USS cowpens in the Pacific Theater. Where 976 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 1: should people just go? Is there a website specifically you 977 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,319 Speaker 1: want them to go to, or you know Amazon? You 978 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 1: just want people to get the book anywhere? What do 979 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 1: you want to tell the folks? 980 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's widely available. You can get on Amazon, Barnes 981 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,239 Speaker 6: and Noble, Walmart, Target, wherever. Wherever books are sold, it 982 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,440 Speaker 6: should be there. So I really appreciate your support. And 983 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 6: you know, with Father's Day coming up, I mean, my 984 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,359 Speaker 6: dad likes World War two history, but it was an 985 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,359 Speaker 6: you know, it's a great opportunity for me to sort 986 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 6: of on this Father's Day pay tribute to my granddad 987 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,600 Speaker 6: and a lot of other men like him who did 988 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,959 Speaker 6: their bit, you know, when their country needed them the most. 989 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 1: Well, you know, carry his granddad, who's a vice admiral. 990 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna need you to get a signed copy to him. Okay, 991 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,759 Speaker 1: so we'll take care of that absolutely. All right, Mighty Move, 992 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,440 Speaker 1: everybody get your copy. Nate, congrats man, great to talk 993 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:10,359 Speaker 1: to you. Thanks, so much. 994 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:12,399 Speaker 6: Thanks Buck, take care. 995 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and honestly really really good book. You see it 996 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 1: here on the stream, you'll really enjoy it. I will 997 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 1: take some of your calls here momentarily to close us out. 998 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,720 Speaker 1: The CEO of very successful company recently chose to reduce 999 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 1: his salary to a dollar a year in favor of 1000 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,040 Speaker 1: receiving a new and better way to be paid. He's 1001 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 1: the same CEO that I've known for a long time personally, 1002 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 1: Porter Stansbury. 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