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Speaker 1: How is that culture? Yes? Goodness ding dong less culture

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Speaker 1: talk about Sunday. Sunday is one of the most iconic days,

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Speaker 1: so commonly one of the things you think of when

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Speaker 1: you think Sunday is, of course brunch, which we did

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Speaker 1: do today. Did that with Joe Kim and his boyfriend

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Speaker 1: John Michael, the iconic John Michael with an iconic class name,

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Speaker 1: and then we did so so our our our server

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Speaker 1: Then you start to second guess yourself when someone gives

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Speaker 1: And wasn't just to say about slay and go off.

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Speaker 1: We saw Mutu Juhari yesterday and checked them with her

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Speaker 1: we have documented before In the song Mutu Juhari did

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Speaker 1: an incredible update of the song Brave by Sarah Barrellis.

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Speaker 1: believe this is way back in so this is someone

424
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Speaker 1: who's been around for an extremely long time and I

425
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 1: was cheerleader. It's crazy, yes, like such a vast array

426
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: of projects and now gets this great role in yellow

427
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: jackets and like wins this big award and it's just

428
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: cool because you have to imagine that everyone that's ever

429
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 1: worked with her is happy for her. And when she

430
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: said that thing about thanks for asking you not to

431
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 1: change or do anything different, you have to imagine like

432
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,719
Speaker 1: she someone to sit with that for her her whole career,

433
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: someone who maybe hasn't fit into the box of what

434
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: like you know, people want from like a leading type.

435
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: I also read an interview with her one time and

436
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: she said, you know, sometimes she will get scripts and

437
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 1: be offered the lead, and she always gravitates towards like

438
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: the freak supporting character, like you know, something else, and

439
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I just really really respect

440
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: her as a performer, as an actor, and it's just

441
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: nice to see a person like that get a lot

442
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: of credit like that. We were saying this earlier off Mike,

443
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 1: but like there's something really cool about critics choice, having

444
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: it be shaped by the critics and having nominees be

445
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 1: really interesting, not like myself notwithstanding, it's like do get

446
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: like in my let's just go with my category, um,

447
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 1: just because this is the one I can name off

448
00:23:53,200 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: the top exactly. Harvey Harvey be in um fucking Raybord motto,

449
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: like we had a had a fun, wacky category all

450
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: kind of like kind of just covered all the bases,

451
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: ran the gamut, and like it felt like very like

452
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,479
Speaker 1: much like a snapshot of like what these performances were

453
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: this season, because you want to know what the critics

454
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: actually do watch everything, and so you got a sense

455
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 1: like looking around seeing everyone that was there. It was like,

456
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: you know what's funny. It's like Kristin Chenowith was nominated

457
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: for Who Was? She was so great in that and

458
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: such a such a highlight of that show and then

459
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 1: recognized for it, even though the show doesn't necessarily have

460
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 1: like buzz right now in terms of awards like right now,

461
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: for me, it's like I would so much rather a

462
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Speaker 1: a group like the critics or organization or whatever whoever,

463
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: Critics Choice Association all getting together to vote on this

464
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 1: instead of like, you know, eighty four foreign journalists who

465
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Speaker 1: can throw a good party. This actually is a good

466
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: party that was thrown in. It's a fun show, but

467
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: also at the same time it it's like a cultivated

468
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: list of performers, like for example, fucking Josie Tote deserves

469
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: to be nominated, and I think, I mean, I remember

470
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,239
Speaker 1: the first season I Saved by the Bell I I

471
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 1: was on the nominating committee for Sagen. I wrote her name.

472
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 1: She just deserves if you're going to talk about supporting

473
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Speaker 1: actress in a comedy series, like, she's one of the

474
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Speaker 1: funniest ones. She's like, she's giving you like young Jenner

475
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: Morone on that Tracy Wigfield show, like with the thirty

476
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: rock DNA in it. Yes, like and also I will

477
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: say this is just like whatever, like a little a

478
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: little esoteric, a little whatever. Um, I'm so tired, but

479
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,479
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm gonna keep saying it, which is one

480
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 1: of the most interesting things people can say. It's u

481
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Speaker 1: of culture number forty. One of the most interesting things

482
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: people can say is I'm tired. I'm so tired, so tired.

483
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: But the thing about the lovely thing about critics choice

484
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 1: being a nominee was having a lot of critics come

485
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: up to me and say, it's so nice to meet you,

486
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: like saying all these nice things, and I'm like, oh,

487
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: this is like a thing that I take for granted.

488
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 1: You don't get that the other rewards shows where you're

489
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: talking to like if it was the Golden Globes. It

490
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: was like just some hfp A fucking freaks, and you're like, oh, okay, hi,

491
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 1: it also matters what they think. That's the thing is,

492
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: it's like, you know the projects that I've been in,

493
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: because I've been in projects and I don't know how

494
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: you feel, but like, I've been in projects that were

495
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 1: both really well received and then really badly received, at

496
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: least initially by critics. Which is so funny because Q

497
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: Force was nominated for Animated Series and it was not

498
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: well received by the critics at first, but I genuinely

499
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: think that when more people sat with it and watched it,

500
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,959
Speaker 1: they liked it more. But it actually really matters because

501
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 1: nowadays there's so much ship you can watch, and so

502
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: when something gets like panned, you know, it moves down

503
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: your list, like and then you're not motivated to watch it.

504
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: Exactly as a viewer, I'm like, well, I guess I'm

505
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: not going to check that out because it seems like

506
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: the critics say they don't like this, which is helpful,

507
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: and also whatever, it's like it's complicated. But it's like

508
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: I was about to say, much like alphabez, being a

509
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: critic is like going to war. Being a critic is

510
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,719
Speaker 1: going to have to watch a million but they enjoy it.

511
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: They enjoy it, but to form to like really like

512
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: scope out and like be like this is what I

513
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: think the journalistic take on the show is is hard.

514
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: It's like very difficult. I also wonder how easy it

515
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: is to take personal taste out of it, Like I

516
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: think that some people who review things like you get

517
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: a sense that they feel maybe because they've been doing

518
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: it for a while, or their personal taste does inform

519
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: their critical I that they feel very comfortable bringing like

520
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,719
Speaker 1: their personal taste to it. Like for example, someone like

521
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 1: I don't know what he doesn't do it anymore, but

522
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 1: like Ben Brantley, it's like he was kind of the

523
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: only critic in theater that really matters, which is kind

524
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: of crazy because then you have to really cater to

525
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: And I'm sure he's great at what he does, and

526
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 1: he is great at what he does, but really one

527
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 1: person who by being a human being, is subjective, whereas

528
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: like it is shaping like the way that people consume

529
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: like a whole sector in a major way. I mean,

530
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: he could he could open our closed shows like he

531
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: could he could close a show with a bad review,

532
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: and um, it's really interesting and also to to know

533
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: what types of this is another thing that people don't

534
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: really think about, is you know, back in the day,

535
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: like anyway, when the critics as a as a whole,

536
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: we're really mostly older and white and men. It's like

537
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: that informs the consensus on a project. So that's why,

538
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: you know, romantic comedies were taken less seriously and by

539
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: and large, and female driven things were taken less seriously

540
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: by and large, or like you know, why certain people

541
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: were anointed by critics and others were not, Like it

542
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: really has to do with the critical body. And so

543
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: that is another thing that we have to be talking

544
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: about in terms of diversity and representation. Oh it's the

545
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: reason why we say things on this show like L

546
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: O L like Clueless would have been nominated or Mean

547
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: Girls would have been nominated, Like you know, you would

548
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: have had Rachel like Adams be nominated where if it

549
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: came out now or things like that, because sensibilities back

550
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: then we're largely defined and shaped by the critical voices.

551
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes when like queer reviewers look at a

552
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: queer project, I wonder if they're harder on that project

553
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: because they're looking at it through the lens of a

554
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: queer eye. Not to say that that's that shouldn't happen,

555
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: but but just you know, it's interesting the way certain

556
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: things get funneled through this landscape that is the critical process. Um,

557
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: and it's just interesting and so and something I really

558
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: enjoyed about the night the other night. And I think

559
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: it might speak to the fact that like maybe now

560
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: and only now are the Critics Organization, Is that Critics

561
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: Choice Organization, our association ready to have a big show

562
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: like this is because there was so much diversity in

563
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: the nominees, because there really was there really was there

564
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: truly was. And yeah, I don't know, I just um,

565
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: I felt really lucky to be there. Truly was an

566
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: honor just to be nominated. It was a really cool

567
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: show to go. Yeah, it was great. It was fun.

568
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: And also so I mean, we were there, and so

569
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: half the show was happening in London and half the

570
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: show was happening there, and so we we were we

571
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: was was Troy Cutzer at that show? Troy Cutzer, who

572
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: was he is the supporting actor who's winning everything for Koda. Oh,

573
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: he was in. I think he wasn't no, he was

574
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: in London because he had won the Bathta So the

575
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: Bathtus were the same day as the Critics Choice Awards,

576
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: so they were truly doing like six to eight hours

577
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: of awards shows over there, which is insane knowing that

578
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: we did not eat the whole time. I hope they

579
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,479
Speaker 1: fed them. But like, um, it's also really nice, like

580
00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: lately to see the the diversity conversation now of um

581
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: accompany deaf people, Like that's something I've been really enjoying about,

582
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: like codas And I don't think for me personally, I

583
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: I hope that Power of the Dog wins Best Picture.

584
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: I think it's the best film of the year. But

585
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: it's something that's nice, is like at least people's eyes

586
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: are being opened, and now to the fact that this

587
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: is a very underserved community in media. Very um. We

588
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: talked about this and we still haven't seen it. Um,

589
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: I will before before Sunday. Yeah, I mean I remember

590
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 1: I turned around and saw Marley Mallin at the awards

591
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: we got. I mean, she's an absolutely beautiful person, but

592
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: then she was talking to Molly Shannon and I was like,

593
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: there's a similar vibe here these two, these two women

594
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: with like similar faces, similar stature, you know what it

595
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: is like Marley obviously communicates with her the whole body,

596
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: and Molly No, but I think they look alike, Like, yeah,

597
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: I got to introduce Bowen and Molly Shannon and that

598
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: was like a moment of my larious. I fucking love

599
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: that woman, and I am obsessed for everyone to see

600
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: the show. I can't wait. Oh, let's talk about the

601
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: trailer for I love that for you the Star. No, honestly, Vanessa,

602
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: I just Molly and Matt Rodgers well and say, say

603
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: it's Jennifer Lewis, Jennifer will I will say it was

604
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: the first time I had seen sort of what the

605
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: show is gonna look like, because it's so funny, because

606
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: I think with almost everything I've done, I've been in

607
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: some way creatively involved or at least, like, you know,

608
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,959
Speaker 1: gotten to peek behind the curtain a little bit. With this,

609
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm kind of just like going out there, hitting my

610
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: mark and getting the funk out. So this is my

611
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,239
Speaker 1: first time I've seen what the show is gonna look like,

612
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: and it made me excited, really feeling. Boe goes to me,

613
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: You're like in the trailer, I'm like, yeah, girl. I'm

614
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: like in the show she's miss Button. You are serving

615
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: the button button on a platter. I think everyone's gonna

616
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: like the show. You guys, April twenty nine, it's streaming,

617
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: it's streaming. I can't wait. By then you will have

618
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: to be a network sister with the Yellow Jackets cru

619
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Speaker 1: see see. And this is the thing. It's like on

620
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: on a on a basis of entertainment, Like I would

621
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: love yellow Jackets, but people have, people who love gore

622
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 1: and love horror have told me like this is not

623
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: for you, mama, like turn away. It was making me queasy.

624
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: So I want to watch it desperately, but like I

625
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: have to be in their headspace. This is so boring.

626
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: Do the thing where you just close your eyes literally, Queen,

627
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: I know. And we were just talking about this on

628
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: the way here. Well, first of all, let'st's keep talking

629
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: about I love that for you, but I just we

630
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: were we were all said, we were staying in the

631
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: car and me and Joel got brunched today with jmum

632
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: really talking about how like Showtime is going to be

633
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: that girl popping off. It's gonna pop off. Um. The

634
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: first Lady's Show looks awesome. I just found out about

635
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: this today. Yes, so it's Viola Davis has Michelle Obama,

636
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: Michelle Peiffer as Betty Ford, and Gillian Anderson as Eleanor Roosevelt.

637
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: And I don't exactly know how they're going to roll

638
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: it out, but it's a limited series and it's about

639
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: the three of them, and obviously they don't interact, but um,

640
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: it's going to I guess it's like a nonlinear type thing,

641
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: but um, it looks great. And when I heard Viola

642
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: Davis Michelle Obama, I think some part of me was

643
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: just like, oh, like is that like a little first thought?

644
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: And then I saw the photo of her and I

645
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I'm so freaking excited. It

646
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: was so impastiful. Joel showed me that that promo image

647
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,959
Speaker 1: and I was like, wow, you should see the trailer. Yeah,

648
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 1: I haven't even Yeah, it's great. And the thing someone said, like, well,

649
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: what about Michelle Obama is like dramatically someone said someone

650
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: did toss this off and it's I'm not dragging that person,

651
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: but they were like, what about Michelle Obama? It is

652
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: like dramatically compelling, Like what what was the controversy during

653
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: the Obama years, and I'm saying, like the fact that

654
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: there was no controversy really during the Obama years, and

655
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: the fact that she kept so composed and had to

656
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: be an image of perfection that we had never seen

657
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,479
Speaker 1: before from a first lady simply because of her race

658
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: and because she was now a prototype and a role

659
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: model for the rest of time. That is the dramatically

660
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: compelling element, because you know, she had ups and downs emotionally.

661
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: You know, that presidency ended in a harrowing So that's

662
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: where it is. That's where it lies. And I mean

663
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: you could do a whole fucking season of a show

664
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: based on like that, like a moment where like the

665
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: Trump's show up to the White House, it's like that's

666
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: it's just yeah, I mean there's plenty there. There's plenty there.

667
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 1: And then I guess, you know, I'm I'm a flop,

668
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: but I never read Becoming, but I feel like, um,

669
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: you know, just pull from that. There's plenty of stuff.

670
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I saw the Netflix series. And also she's

671
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: been pretty open about the fact that that was health

672
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: for her, like absolute health for her and Lady No,

673
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: like the transition, transition that they had to go through

674
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: with that in a dignified way, despite the fact that

675
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: they were, you know, handing it over to clown dot

676
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: com and um, I think that that had she acted

677
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: any differently, people would have been all over it. And

678
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: people still found a way. I remember getting into like

679
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: a Facebook argument with like a high school teacher I

680
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: had about how, you know, she was wrong for calling

681
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: out Trump or that she was like making it quote

682
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: unquote about race about something, and I was just like,

683
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: you gotta be fucking kidding me, I was like, and

684
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: that just goes to show how people were primed to

685
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: try to destroy her. So she had to be everything

686
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: and more and there is a lot to play there

687
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: dramatically one percent one um and Viola will be She'll

688
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 1: be amazing. And also because Viola is that power, that stoicism,

689
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: but there is that passion. And the thing that I

690
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: think about Viola Davis is acting, is there is such

691
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: a there's always yes, it's at August Wilson thing of

692
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: like it's just it's just like it's so it vibrates

693
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: in her. It's like we we remember doubt, you know,

694
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: which was really her first big emergence onto the scene

695
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: in her first Oscar nomination, and she's got that scene

696
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: with Meryl Streep where Meryl Streep is confronting her because

697
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: she well, she's informing her that her son is in

698
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: a relationship with Philip semour Hoffmann, the priest that may

699
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: be inappropriate, and Viola's job in the scene is too

700
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: basically try to tell Meryl Streep it's not a big deal,

701
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: and she's not interested in making a thing of it

702
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: because you know, if her husband were to find out,

703
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: he would kill her his son. And you know what's

704
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: so bad about this, you know, man taking care of

705
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: her son and Meryl Streep is not able to understand it.

706
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: And Viola is so genius in that scene because she

707
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: is maintaining a composure when inside it is so complicated

708
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: and she does know her son is being taken advantage of,

709
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: and she does have a deep understanding that this is wrong,

710
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: and she is confused about her son's nature, and you know,

711
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: there's just so much there and when she sort of

712
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: blows and gets emotional, it's it's it's really sort of

713
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: a special moment in acting because she's been holding it

714
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: back and there's that tension and that repression that is

715
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: not easy to do. No. Um, I'm excited. I can't wait.

716
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled between First Ladies, First Lady, Fir First Lady,

717
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: the First Ladies, that Yellow Jackets, I love that for you, Amazing, amazing.

718
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,479
Speaker 1: All I can tell you is that I sometimes find

719
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 1: myself in a room with Vanessa Bayer, Molly Shannon, and

720
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: Jennifer Lewis fucking firing off, and I'm like, I think

721
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm the luckiest person in that's so nice, man. I

722
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: am like, I just like, I couldn't be more excited

723
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: for everyone to see it. But I know the headline

724
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: will be that, like, come on, it's like Matt Rogers,

725
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 1: Like everyone's gonna be like, oh, oh my god, well

726
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: you're nice. Well we'll wait to see it first. I

727
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: have no fears, I have no doubts. I'm like, like

728
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: everyone internally is saying how great you are in it.

729
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I'm over here just like on the

730
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: edge of my seat. I can't wait to watch. And um,

731
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: even from the trailer, just like seeing you act opposite

732
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: Jennifer is incredible. And then Jennifer is giving you something

733
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: that you we haven't really seen as an audience either.

734
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's amazing about Jennifer Is she vibe wise

735
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: is exactly what you think, Like she is that larger

736
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,479
Speaker 1: than life personality. She is incredible. Like if you don't

737
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: if you haven't read her book The Mother of Black Hollywood,

738
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: you definitely have to or better yet, listen to it

739
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: on audiobooks. And she's made of stories. I am so

740
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: like enriched by my interactions with her in terms of

741
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: like the stories that she tells, but also like you know,

742
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: when she tosses it away, she has such power. It's

743
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: really interesting too, even just from the trailer, just being like, oh,

744
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: she's really kind of playing it at a different frequency

745
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: than what I've seen her do. And it's really it's

746
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: like it's like, oh, this is so great. This is

747
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 1: a new novel thing that we're getting from someone who's

748
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: been working in the industry for decades. It's an amazing

749
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: role for her, and um, I'm really excited for people

750
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: to see what they gave her and how it all unfold.

751
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 1: But you know, so many things are coming out in April,

752
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: like Barry is coming back, like Hacks is coming back,

753
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: or April and May. Yeah, but are you watching Atlanta?

754
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: I can't wait for Atlanta? Is coming back, like I mean, yes,

755
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: I mean everything. It's almost like everything is coming out

756
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: again because I feel like we're seeing what happened when

757
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: everyone got comfortable with COVID again. You know what it's

758
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: like last year there was not that much. This year,

759
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: it's like a fleet of shows that are coming out.

760
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: Let's just be real towards the end of the Emmy

761
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: deadline and um, it's like all happening at once, And like,

762
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: I think that we're going to be hashtag eating in

763
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: April and May in terms of new shows, new content,

764
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: things coming out. I'm really interested to watch this. We

765
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: work We crashed with Jared Letto and Anne Hathaway. Yes, yes,

766
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: although I guess and uh we we love Anne. It's

767
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 1: funny that one of her I think she only said

768
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: it once interpressed and in the press that she's done.

769
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: But she's like, I still haven't technically met Jared Letto

770
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: because he was encountering I don't know how I would

771
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: be able to handle if I guess you'd have to.

772
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: I don't foresee myself ever working with him, so I

773
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 1: will never know, but you never know. But I'm also

774
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: I'm always like I'm not going to be like, I

775
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: just want to be like, can we I would talk

776
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: to a publicist, a literal publicist, and be like, maybe

777
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: we don't talk about Jared in this because I don't

778
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: know how to talk about him in a way that

779
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: is not like deeply uncomfortable to everybody. To me as

780
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: as a person, being like, oh, yeah, Jared was Jared

781
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: was was peculiar. And then to have people be like, oh,

782
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: what did Jared do? Like how is Jared on this set?

783
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: You know, maybe we cut this out? Well, he was there.

784
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's so funny too, because like we

785
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: were sitting You're sitting there at the table, and I

786
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: was looking around and I was like bowing. I just

787
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: literally like saw like three people that we've dragged on

788
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: this podcast. Shut up? Um god, what else? Crash fucking

789
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: bops on bops? She has said in interviews or she's

790
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: tweeted like I want to have my big pop girl moment,

791
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: And I think this is this is kind of the

792
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 1: first genuine attempt at that since Sucker, since her second album.

793
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: So okay, So this is so in terms of the chronology,

794
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: this is this. This is what I find remarkable as

795
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: as the sort of last album in her contract with Atlantic.

796
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: I feel like it's just a beautiful retrospective and it's

797
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: also very forward thinking in terms of like pop music

798
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: in general and her career. Like I I just think

799
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 1: she's she's a genius. Yeah, I mean, she's unbelievable, unbelievable.

800
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: I guess my thing is just like it's not that

801
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: she's finally now making because I noticed a big article

802
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 1: where she was just like she was the pull quote

803
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: was I love selling out. And I'm like, oh, when

804
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 1: I listen to this album, it must be like super

805
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: bubble gummy or whatever. And it really just sounds like

806
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: I understand where those references are, but it sounds like

807
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: Charlie xc X, Like it feels like just another great

808
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: Charlie xc X album. And my thing is like, if

809
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: people think, like all of a sudden, she's quote unquote

810
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: selling out or this is like now now a pop record,

811
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: maybe they just weren't listening close enough before because she's

812
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 1: incredible music for years. I think this is a newer okay,

813
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: so true romances, Like it's her first album. She was

814
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: like a zygote um super ethereal kind of ambient pop

815
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: sucker is like, you know, boom clap, like gold coins

816
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: like that, like you know that that is true bubblegum

817
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: all the way through, right, Okay, So that's like then

818
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: Charlie and then Charlie, which is like the first popped

819
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: two into Charlie, which was like her full like hyper pop,

820
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: like working with Sophie, working with a G. Cook, like

821
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: we're like like PC music, like you know, like that's

822
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: like super experimental. Charlie was super experimental into How I'm

823
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: Feeling Now, which was like extremely extremely or yeah, I

824
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: mean or just like kind of super introspective, the most

825
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 1: introspective thing. And then I think she wanted to break.

826
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: I think it's really great genius play, holistic play to go,

827
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna end this contract that she's kind of you know,

828
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: gone on record and saying that it's been very tough

829
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: for her, tumultuous, tumultuous. They've delayed her releases, they've like

830
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: prolonged the sort of window of the contract by pushing

831
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: her album. And I think there's someone they're leaking her ship. Yeah,

832
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: there's someone there. Someone call is coming from inside the

833
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: house there, because it's just ridiculous what happens to her. No,

834
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: it's it's awful, and like, I think she's had a

835
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: lot to say sort of in a very um diplomatic

836
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: way or not so diplomatic, it doesn't really matter, But

837
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 1: I think she sees from all sides how the industry

838
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: treats women like she's in terms of her being a

839
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: songwriter for other pop stars, in terms of in terms

840
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: of her crafting her own career, like she's seen the darkness,

841
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: and I think this album crashes her trying to like right,

842
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: some draw some huge middle finger to like the label

843
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: while still sort of like I don't know, tipping her

844
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: hat to like what they've done for her her whole

845
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: career so far with them, and so like, um, you

846
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: know crash like that that that the first track. It's like, um,

847
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm about to end it also legendary, like there's something

848
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: like really something really dangerous about this, And I think

849
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: she's like talked about how this album is very like

850
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: eighties inspired, like there's a lot of Janet influences. There's

851
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: why her in the nineties house. Um, it's not like

852
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying, which is that it's not

853
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: this like revolutionary record necessarily not not. I didn't say that.

854
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: I said, it's not this new. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. Um,

855
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: I just think it's a very I truly think we'll

856
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: look back on this album ten years from now and

857
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: be like god, wow crash in a moment. I feel

858
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: like she this is her first album. I think her

859
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: first album. I'm gonna say her first album on the label,

860
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: her first album so far in her career where everyone's

861
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: been able to like talk about it. At the same time,

862
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: it's somewhat in the monoculture. Also, the first time she's

863
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: doing like super mainstream press, like she was on the

864
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: Tonight Show, she was on SNL, like she never did that.

865
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: She did, Yeah, she did SNL once. I think it

866
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: was for Sucker. I think it was for but um she.

867
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: I think she just like really wanted to go all

868
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: out before she moves on and and I think I

869
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: really love it. I've been listening to Yuck and Every Rule,

870
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: Every Rule is the Ballot Is. I was gonna say,

871
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: I love the ballad on this album. Yeah, like and

872
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: one of my favorite songs she's ever done as about,

873
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: which is I don't want to know. Yes, I love

874
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: I don't want to know. When I saw her on tour,

875
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: like for the Charlie album she did I don't know,

876
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, and the lighting design was just like amazing.

877
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: She's a great live performance. And we also saw her

878
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 1: with Taylor. Oh my god, what she opened for Taylor

879
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: for reputation. I wasn't there. Oh you weren't there. So

880
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: she was on. She Camila and Taylor and then y'all

881
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: did shake it off together. It was really great. When

882
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: we saw a night it was Haim, which was also

883
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 1: very cool. Great. Um but yeah, Crash is wonderful. Moto

884
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: Mommy Rosalia perfect. Hailey Winter has released her album too.

885
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: It's called what's called hold On New Music by Muna Muna.

886
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't wait for that one. That

887
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: album coming out in June. Um wait, what is this

888
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: Haley them hold On? Let me see Haley Winters. It's

889
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: called Raised Raised, you would love it. It's Maren and

890
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 1: Casey Early, Casey Musgraves. By the way, Marion Morris has

891
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 1: new music out too, and it's this song called background Music,

892
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: which I think is the best fucking things she's ever done.

893
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: What background Music? You gotta check it out. I think

894
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: it's really hard for people to do throwne, for her

895
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: to do throwne eighties Mercedes. That is the that is

896
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: one of the best that that's going in the songbook.

897
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: It's going in the songbook, which is on its way,

898
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: you guys, but no, fucking you gotta listen to the

899
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: song background music, like it's it's like she's ascended to

900
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: another level as a as a songwriter. Like it's so

901
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: it's so specifically about her husband, um and basically it's

902
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: a song about how they they get to be so

903
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: lucky because they get to be creating the music that

904
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: people dance to what in the background, And it's just

905
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: it's a narrative. It's she has one lyric. It's like

906
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: not every and he gets to something but I don't know,

907
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 1: it's it's she's just so fucking good and she's such

908
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: a good sing like it's just crazy. She's so evocative

909
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: sometimes I'll just like, if you want to hear how

910
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: to sing a pop song, listen to the middle, bitch.

911
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: The middle is how you execute pop vocals and you're

912
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: talking about a country singer, and she does, but she

913
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: gives you the full range of like just at the

914
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 1: end of the second verse when she goes, oh no,

915
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: we got all an intention she throws it away. I'm

916
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: just like, girl, you're absolutely it and like just her

917
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: riffs at the end of the song, just like why

918
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: don't you just be me in the middle baby, like

919
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: where she finds that like like lying, I'm like, oh

920
00:49:52,800 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: my god, her ear ear, she's got it. We Marion

921
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: in this house. Maren, You're welcome to consciously no. But

922
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: here's the thing. You talk. We don't talk. We have

923
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: we have corresponded into a couple of times talking, and

924
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: I always like I literally will get my phone out

925
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: and I'll get my instant messages out and I literally

926
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: will will like half type in like hey, I have

927
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: a podcast with a Bowen Yang and we would love

928
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: to have you. And I always deleted because I get scared.

929
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: But what do I have to lose? I don't saying no,

930
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 1: like Matt. I don't want your nerves to get in

931
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: the way of like having Maren on the plot or

932
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 1: just anything. I don't want your nerves to really deprive you.

933
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: You deprive you of opportunities that should I do it

934
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: right now like I did for Wendy right now, so

935
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: right literal now, I'm gonna d m No, I can't

936
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: do this. What what the fund is happening. I just said,

937
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: you cannot let your fear get in the way. I'm

938
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: gonna DM Aaron Morris, do it now. Okay. How do

939
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 1: I say this? Well, Internet, Internet up girl, you can Okay, Okay, okay,

940
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying these excuses, Aaron. I'm saying, Maren, absolutely obsessed, Maren.

941
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: This is Maren. This is the darkest shot that's ever

942
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: been shot in the dark. But if you have any time,

943
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 1: this is a shot in the damn dark. But if

944
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: you have any time, let's say an hour and a

945
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: half to spare at any point, say ninety minutes to

946
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:38,720
Speaker 1: spare at any point. I have a podcast with Critics

947
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 1: Choice Awardang from SNL. Oh my god, do I not

948
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: say that whatever we want? Okay with Boon Yang Um,

949
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say it with bow and Yang and

950
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: called lost Culture is thus okay, Oh my god, I'm sorry.

951
00:51:55,280 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 1: We've just surpassed one million. I'm not gonna um have

952
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: a post. And since we're both obsessed with you, we

953
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: promised we would. We promised we would have a very

954
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: fun but in depth conversation with you about the album

955
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: and your prior work or whatever you want. To talk about. Um,

956
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: we strike just the right balance. Okay, no, no, no, okay,

957
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Maren, this is a shot in the damn dark.

958
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: But if you have any time, let's say ninety minutes

959
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: of spirit any point. I have a podcast with boy

960
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: and called Lost, And since we're both obsessed with you,

961
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: we'd feel dumb if we didn't ask you to be

962
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: a guest. Um, we promised we would, we can and um,

963
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: it would be so fun. I don't know, is it Housewives?

964
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: Maybe this is the way to get it. Okay, and

965
00:52:54,000 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: we can talk about the album Housewine, so much things

966
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 1: about the album every Housewives. I'm gonna say l o

967
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: l um, everything and anything. Um. If this is not

968
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 1: of interest or you have no time, no hard feelings,

969
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: we will be front row at the show, no hard feelings.

970
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: Can't wait to see you live when you roll through. Um,

971
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: oh my god, you'd better be hitting sun bitch. Um,

972
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: I'm saying, get back to me anytime. Okay, I'm gonna

973
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: send this. I'm nodding. Did you hit it? I hit it?

974
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: I said that? Oh my god. Okay, okay her. In

975
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 1: the words of Maddie from Euphoria, this is just the beginning.

976
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: I can't wait if it happens, I would love for

977
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: it to happen. I would love for it to happen.

978
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 1: Publicists make it happen. Tag tag marin um. And by

979
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: the way, speaking of music, guess who's on the show

980
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: next week? Everybody? Oh my god, Betty, Betty absolute who?

981
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: And we did say that we were going to have

982
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: more musicians on and this is the thing I think

983
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: we might be delivering on that going forward in a

984
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: very fun way. Do we reveal the other person who's coming? No,

985
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: let's wait, Okay, let's wait, let's wait. Um, Well, you

986
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: know in two weeks it's also going to be miss Garcel.

987
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we have Garcel Bove. So next week

988
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 1: is Betty who in the week after that is sucking

989
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: guard fucking sell and okay, and then I would love

990
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: to reveal this go ahead, we have Katie Crutchfield coming.

991
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: Wax A Hatchie self just the best person, the best person,

992
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 1: the best vibe she believe it or not. As as

993
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 1: a reader, I'm obsessed. And yeah, and then there's gonna

994
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: be lots to talk about much tour. So she's if

995
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: she's swinging by your your gotta go such a good

996
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: live performer, what a what a what a great musical

997
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: landscape we have out there. It's really fun right now.

998
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: You were on Charlie's podcast. Yes, how is that? You know?

999
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 1: It's I think I received the biggest compliment I've ever

1000
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 1: the best. One of the best compliments I've ever gotten

1001
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: was from her was from Charlie, because it's just that

1002
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: the premises best song ever, and she gives you a

1003
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: bunch of prompts ahead of time, and you're supposed to

1004
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 1: like basically make a playlist based on each of her songs,

1005
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: Which is the best song ever? To like, um, you know,

1006
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: sing in the shower something generic like that? Uh, ranging

1007
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: from that to one of my problems was the best

1008
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: song that would have been on the Icebergs album. You know,

1009
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: Like she's like, she's asking me like fun specific and

1010
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: so I gave her a bunch of you know, I

1011
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: wanted to say, I wanted to give like a broad

1012
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: range of stuff. And then what she said to me,

1013
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: and you can listen to this on the air on

1014
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: the podcast, she goes, bhen you have a really eclectic

1015
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: musical taste. She was like, um, you know, like my

1016
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: friends and I were taught. Were like looking over the

1017
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: list and like, we're really impressed, and I was like, damn,

1018
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: I did it. I really I impressed Charlie x X

1019
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: on a musical level. It was really fun episode and

1020
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: she's so great. She's a great host, great to talk

1021
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 1: to in my episode. I think on DOA's podcast is

1022
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: coming out soon, which is at your Service, and she

1023
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: is a phenomenal podcast host. Really knows how to guide

1024
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: the conversation, ask you questions at the right time. Obsession

1025
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: she's got, I have obsession. I'm obsession. I guess. I

1026
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: guess I'm obsession. I guess. Oh wait, I didn't. I

1027
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: didn't talk about Do's concert on this podcast. Oh my gosh,

1028
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't so fun. So great she does like the

1029
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: do A dance like the mean Katie Perry, Okay, talk

1030
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: about it. I mean do it was phenomenal, Like I really,

1031
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: you really It has convinced me even more and as

1032
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 1: time goes on, I think I'll I'll believe this more

1033
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: more and more strongly. That album will never leave us.

1034
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: That album will always be like so emotional for us

1035
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: because it was it came out like it came out

1036
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: around that time late in March and like it was

1037
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: all we had and we hung onto it for dear life.

1038
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: It's the same. I told Katie this, Like, you know,

1039
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: her album um St Cloud came out mid March or

1040
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: late March two and I was like, that was like

1041
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: the first moment of joy I felt in Lockdown, which

1042
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: was like cracking open my window feeling the breeze coming

1043
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: because at that point I was not even going outside

1044
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: cracking open my window putting on her album and be

1045
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: like wow, I feel like I'm truly transported, and like

1046
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: do A's album was that, but like we will, it

1047
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: will not get old for me. That album will never

1048
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: get old for me. Well, I was saying to Bow

1049
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: and like my my thought on Future Nostalgia that it

1050
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: is actually a formative pop album for theies. I think

1051
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: that Nostalgia will be to what Teenage Dream was to

1052
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: what like Love Angel Music Baby was to the Auts.

1053
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: Like I think that Future Nostalgia, if you listen to

1054
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: it again, it's actually there's there are classics all the

1055
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: way through the album. Like I was thinking about the

1056
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: song Hallucinate and I'm like, Haucinate is a fucking bop

1057
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: and a half, Like obviously levitating which now is like

1058
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: a record holder for like the longest song on the

1059
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: Hot One by a female artist I believe obviously don't

1060
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: start now um uh fucking physical, which did not get

1061
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: it to do I think because, as we famously believe,

1062
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: the mainstream audience could smell the Academy in on it.

1063
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: It was too gay for America in the world. Break

1064
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: my Heart, I break my Heart did great. Break my

1065
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: Heart is also amazing, even pretty please, Like just like

1066
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: over and over and over and over and over again,

1067
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: this the album delivers. And you know, as much as

1068
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: I fucking stand folklore and I appreciate it, I looking

1069
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: back in retros would probably say the album of that

1070
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: year was Nostalgia. Agree, and I think deserving of the Grammy.

1071
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: And it did win the Pop Vocal Album I mean,

1072
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: and it beat Folklore in that category, so it did.

1073
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: It didn't go home empty handed. But like I just

1074
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: think in terms of how it's already feeling like it's

1075
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: going to hold up like future nostalgia is what I'm saying.

1076
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: Nostalgia is a fucking moment. It's a moment. It was

1077
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: a solidifier. It was it was like it was like

1078
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: pop stars dream of delivering a sophomore album like that,

1079
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,439
Speaker 1: and I think the last time it like solidified someone

1080
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: in lexicon in this way was probably teenage Dreams. Like

1081
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: the last time a sophomore album off a pop star

1082
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: of a promising pop star's debut album came out and

1083
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: was like that, that's awesome, UM, and do a we

1084
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: fucking love you. UM. Talk about Katy Perry now, well,

1085
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: another time I blacked out. The Katy Perry show in

1086
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: Vegas is one you want to go see. It's a

1087
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 1: visual treat. She's on it, you guys. Her comedy was hitting,

1088
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: her vocals were heading. She covers I'm not kidding You.

1089
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: She covers the Greatest Love of All by Whitney fucking Houston.

1090
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: It was a swing and a home run. I am

1091
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 1: telling you, like every song delivered, I've now ever since

1092
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: her concert, I've listened to like, there's like a playlist

1093
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: on Spotify which is like Katy Perry Vegas play Residency,

1094
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 1: and I just listened to it and you're back there.

1095
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: She starts with ET and goes into dark Horse or

1096
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: ET chained to the rhythm dark Horse, and it's like

1097
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: eat hits so hard, And when dark Horse started, I'm

1098
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: like this is about to fucking slap, And then it

1099
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: absolutely did, because it's just so loud and everyone's raging,

1100
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: and everyone's it's Vegas, and everyone's drinking like incredible, like

1101
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: teenage dream, like you're so in it, like California Girls.

1102
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: She doesn't. She does do a duet to California Girls

1103
01:00:58,320 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: with a piece of poop and a big red toilet,

1104
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 1: and it's iconic. The piece of poop comes out of

1105
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: the toilet on the second verse and belts and riffed

1106
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: the word sex sick. Oh must say it must a lettle.

1107
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: It's the poop belting and riffing, and it's just it's

1108
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: so aggressively stupid, but so knowledgeable of how stupid it is.

1109
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: Also not for nothing but bon appetite. We forgot about

1110
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: bon appetite. We did not give bond appetite this moment.

1111
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: Swish swish absolutely slapped. Are you're You're about to be

1112
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: a witness apologist. I think I'm about to be a

1113
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: witness apologist. I think I might even be a witness apologist.

1114
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: I think those were the only two songs she did

1115
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: from Witness which felt right because she's just got you

1116
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 1: forget so many fucking hit songs. Change the rhythm, change

1117
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: the rhythm es yes, yes, yes, yes that she did

1118
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 1: perform three, but like just waking Up in Vegas, she

1119
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: did this like different take on it. It was really fun.

1120
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: Um last Friday Night was incredible, which is not one

1121
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: of my e's but like it was amazing. You don't

1122
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: think class fighting, you know what, Like it's just not

1123
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: what I think about. It's so perfect. Wide Awake. I

1124
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: absolutely loved. That's a great one while you're drunk or

1125
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: you're on something. I was feeling every emotion in the

1126
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: song Wide Awake, to the point where at the end

1127
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 1: of the concert I was in full tears holding a

1128
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: woman from Anchorage, Alaska, weeping crying to firework oh yeah,

1129
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: which was the final of course, of course, and I was,

1130
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm telling you, and I said I would be,

1131
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 1: but I could not have been more fucked up. And

1132
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: I was crying holding this stranger who was also crying,

1133
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: and she had gone through a personal tragedy, which I

1134
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: feel weird sharing, but she shared that with me and

1135
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: we broke down, and then we went to fucking what's

1136
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 1: the gay bar in Vegas? We had something likeonic gay

1137
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 1: bar in Vegas and Jasmine Kennedy was before. Oh my god,

1138
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: it was amazing. Um, and then I cried again. True

1139
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: or false? Okay, my favorite type of question. Teenage Dream

1140
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: is Max Martin's best song. I'm about to I think

1141
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:11,439
Speaker 1: I'm about to take that stand stands I'm not ready

1142
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 1: to just throw since you've been gone under the bus, like, oh,

1143
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to realize. But this is that. This

1144
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: is the thing about Max Martin is that the breadth

1145
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: is so large. I'm just not ready to since you've

1146
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: been gone under the bus in that way. And also,

1147
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I don't care if you have a

1148
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: show or not. When Kelly Clarkston goes to Vegas, we

1149
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 1: are going, Um, I will I will say that I

1150
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: think Teenage Dream is his best song of that decade.

1151
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 1: That's fair close. Second is like a blank space. First, God,

1152
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: you forget that he's those songs. Jesus Christ, what a

1153
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 1: fucking legend, Swedish legend, Stockholm birthdom, the world had him.

1154
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: But wow, what a moment, What Wow, What a moment,

1155
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: moment I will never forget. Well, God, how long have

1156
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: we been going? I think long enough, long enough, I

1157
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 1: think long enough to say it's time for I don't

1158
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: think so honey. This is I don't think so honey.

1159
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 1: This is where we take one minute to go off

1160
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: on something in culture. Um it is you said I might,

1161
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 1: I might take a rest. You're gonna take a risk.

1162
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 1: I have something too, and I don't think it'll be

1163
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 1: a risk, but I think people will identify great, this

1164
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so honey, And it's

1165
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: time starts now. I don't think so honey. Allergy season

1166
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 1: during the COVID pandemic, because Mama, I'm spinning out. I

1167
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: have symptoms down, but I also don't have COVID like fully,

1168
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 1: but but but the way the way I'm like, stuff

1169
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 1: the hell up having a sore throat, and I'm like

1170
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: needing to not have COVID for work. And yet it's

1171
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 1: allergy season here in l A. The damn Santa and

1172
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: the winds are blowing around the pollen. I suppose the

1173
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: group chat are all a titter about how we all

1174
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: feel sick. Readers. Do you feeling sick? I do, and

1175
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey about it. I do know,

1176
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: so honey, the way I feel, I don't think so

1177
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: honey that allergies have to keep allergy even during the

1178
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 1: COVID pandemic, and now they're talking about miss Batu b

1179
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: A two. But to get the funk out, I don't

1180
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: think so, honey you. I don't think honey, these allergies.

1181
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: I have what is? What? What the what? And that's

1182
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: one minute, bat girl, that's a Star Wars name, and

1183
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: we better keep it that way. You're either a Droid

1184
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: b A two or you're a dam alien and you

1185
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: better not be the new variant because the way, the

1186
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: way that we've all decided that COVID is done and

1187
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 1: now we're now everyone when you google it, it's like,

1188
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 1: but but two though version is I can't with. And

1189
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: they're saying like, hey, this one's not a big deal,

1190
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: but everyone will get it. And I'm like, well, fuck,

1191
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 1: I hate that stupid ship. Like everyone's getting a harsh

1192
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: cold again and it's going to stop the world. But

1193
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 1: then Founci's now saying he doesn't think it's going to

1194
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 1: stop the world. Jesus Christ, girl, girl, I'm with you.

1195
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: I know a lot of some people in New York

1196
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 1: going I gotta sore through and I'm like, okay, take

1197
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 1: the muse the next, take the Clareton, not the muse. Next,

1198
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 1: what is it to take the flow? Yeah, there you go, Mama, Mama,

1199
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 1: thank you. I found it. Also, I don't know about you,

1200
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: but like during Pisces season, maybe you're a Scorpio so

1201
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: you feel this. Yeah, well, it's been Pisces season and

1202
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: so it's been one of the most emotional months of

1203
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:40,439
Speaker 1: my life. And I've also been partying so much more

1204
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 1: than usual that it's like, I don't know if my

1205
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: immunes are just down or like what, but the allergy

1206
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 1: season is really throwing me. And I don't have COVID

1207
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: like officially confirmed, but it's just it's it's it makes

1208
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 1: me anxious. Well, this is always. Literally, allergy season for

1209
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 1: me is always this is the worst suffering I've ever endured.

1210
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: And when will it stop? And then I literally it's

1211
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: over and then I forget about it for the rest

1212
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 1: of the year. Have you been bad recently? Weirdly, as

1213
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 1: of late this year, it's been fine. But I'm sure

1214
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 1: once I go back to New York and now that

1215
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 1: things are warming up again, it's going to destroy me.

1216
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 1: Oh god, it's fine, listen, um, that will be really frustrating.

1217
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 1: It's so right now in retrospect, I want to let

1218
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 1: you vent some frustrations, thank you by allowing you the

1219
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 1: time one minute exactly to do. And I don't think

1220
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: so honey, and you do have something and it will

1221
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: be risky, Yeah, not risky. It's just like something that's

1222
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: on the brain. And I think a lot of people

1223
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 1: share this. All right, well this is I don't think

1224
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 1: so honey, his time starts now. I don't think so

1225
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 1: honey et asking me about motherfucking Pete. It's or anybody

1226
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: asking me about fucking Pete. I love the guy, but

1227
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get me to be in every fucking

1228
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 1: stupid regurgitated headline talking about how I'm I wish him

1229
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: the best, because obviously I do, obviously we all do.

1230
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 1: But this is something that like none of us want

1231
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: to talk about. We just want to make sure everyone

1232
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: involved is okay, okay. I don't want to talk about

1233
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: this anymore. I don't want this to overshadow literally me

1234
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 1: being nominated for an award. I don't get to like

1235
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 1: feel this way about stuff about my career. And then

1236
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: you have this like fully irrelevant thing kind of hijacking

1237
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 1: the conversation when I'm literally like so fucking tired off

1238
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: of this cross country flight. Well when I while I

1239
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: had to five second form the night before, stop it

1240
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: each See you're better than this, Okay. Mary Hart would

1241
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 1: never but she's a trumper now trumper. I would say,

1242
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 1: if it seems at all like it was coming from

1243
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 1: a place of genuine concern, that would be one thing.

1244
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 1: But it's not. It's a question being asked on a

1245
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 1: red carpet, and therefore it's like also all of it

1246
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 1: is being played out in a very public way. I'm

1247
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: not involved whatsoever. Stop asking the Prince of all princes

1248
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: Chris read about it so that she gets fun like

1249
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: brought into the mask because I saw that he was

1250
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 1: like saying some stuff. And it's like, but Chris is

1251
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: already like fucking like promoting his own ship, and you're

1252
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 1: asking about Pete watch bus down. Don't ever, ever, ever

1253
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 1: ever ask us about Pete. I mean I I when

1254
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 1: I saw that they asked you about it, I was like,

1255
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,719
Speaker 1: I wonder, like, isn't that a thing that they tell

1256
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: them not to ask in advance? Like but I guess not, huh,

1257
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 1: it's like or they yeah, or they just don't care,

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01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 1: and it's like, God, it's just like the whole thing

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01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: is said, He's being stalked and harassed and abused. How

1260
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 1: the fund do you think everyone feels about it? Like

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01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 1: for him, it's like the father of her children is

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01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 1: acting this way. For Connie, it's like he's still like

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01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 1: he's going through some episodes of something and he's still grieving,

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01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 1: and it's like there's just so much going on here

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01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 1: that like none of us are equipped to talk about

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01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 1: on a fucking and a fucking sound bite. Yeah, red

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01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 1: carpet when they're not feeding you when you're drunk from

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Speaker 1: the hotel. Yes. And by the way, this is this,

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01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 1: this is fully mean, going going after red carpet culture.

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01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: It's like it's so fucking stupid the way it's set up.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you know what I said. Asked her more,

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01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: I say, asked her more than pete. This is this

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01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 1: is just to clarify, Like truly, it only has to

1274
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 1: do with like the way that these like fucking things

1275
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: are structured, and it's and it's and it's very smart.

1276
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 1: It's very like they know how to get you and

1277
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: they know how to like fucking amplify the stupidest, most

1278
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: innocuous thing that anyone said, and they ask it like

1279
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 1: and you know, we're all thinking of and it's just

1280
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: like no, you're all waiting to see what happens next.

1281
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 1: And it's like the fact is like I think that

1282
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: because the person involved who's aggravating the situation, knows how

1283
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 1: he can inflame the situation. Like it's like sort of

1284
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 1: all playing into the hands. So if you actually had

1285
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 1: genuine concern, you probably would just do it. But the

1286
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 1: media doesn't have genuine concern about the situation. The media

1287
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 1: has interests in the situation, which one very different. And

1288
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, I wish they wouldn't put you guys

1289
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,560
Speaker 1: in situations because it also seem to me like the

1290
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 1: media seems to think that the SNL cast is like

1291
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 1: and somehow closer than any other cast, Like he's a

1292
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 1: colleague of yours. He's not like your best friends. Like

1293
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: the only person who should be on the red carpet

1294
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: asking questions is Mark mel Yes, who's not the editor

1295
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 1: in chief of Variety, he's the senior culture and events editor.

1296
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 1: But he's like he's he's like Mr. Variety. Yeah, okay,

1297
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 1: so I I correct myself, No, but now I I

1298
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 1: correct you. Oh well, now I as a result of

1299
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 1: you correcting me, I would have to correct myself. Um yeah,

1300
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 1: I hope everything calms down with that situation. It's just sad.

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01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 1: It's it's it's dark, and I it's not good for

1302
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 1: the kids. God, I'm like talking myself into a fucking hole. Now.

1303
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,600
Speaker 1: I mean now they don't have to ask you about it.

1304
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 1: Well now they know. But it's just like the whole

1305
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 1: situation is tough, and like I just I don't know,

1306
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: Like I the only the only amount of in touch

1307
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: I've been with Pete is to text him like, hey, hope,

1308
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: everything's hope, everything's okay, I'm here if you need to

1309
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: talk to you, that's two yeah, And he doesn't, right,

1310
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 1: and so I'm not involved, just like your sign of support.

1311
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:08,719
Speaker 1: And it's just like, I don't know. It's just because

1312
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 1: you know, they would have loved for you to say

1313
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 1: like even a little bit of the wrong thing so

1314
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,560
Speaker 1: they could put it in that fucking This is what

1315
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. Matt and I have been on

1316
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 1: that side of things weirdly, and the thing that they

1317
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: literally tell you to do is to be like get

1318
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 1: something news making. The word is literally newsmaking, and so

1319
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just sucks. And also it would

1320
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 1: also be shitty if you were asked that question and

1321
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 1: you would be like, come on, you know what I mean,

1322
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 1: because then I'm just this close to fucking doing it.

1323
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 1: I swear to God, next time it happens, I'm like,

1324
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 1: don't ask me that, And no one's gonna care if

1325
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 1: that If that clip makes the rounds or whatever, I'm like, yeah, great,

1326
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 1: be honest, that's the the fucking t period. Anyway. The

1327
01:12:55,400 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 1: culture is so broken well being in a broken culture,

1328
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 1: and we're the only people who can save it. We

1329
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 1: are the only people who can say it because we've

1330
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 1: seen the culture from both sides. Now from what still

1331
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 1: the iconic song from Koda, a film we've yet to see,

1332
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 1: you know, she sings that at the end and she

1333
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 1: signs beautifully. That's amazing, Miss Amelia Jones herself. Yeah, the child,

1334
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: the child, Um, oh my god. Can we just say

1335
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 1: Juda Hill was so adorable winning the Award for Belfast

1336
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 1: That was really cute and Alan Kim handing him, Oh,

1337
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 1: oh my goodness. Well two little stars, two little stars,

1338
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 1: and we absolutely titilated. We made news. We shook it up,

1339
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: were shocked, were thrilled, We exposed. Let me press the buttons, honey,

1340
01:13:55,600 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: and we will not stop bet bots. We finished every

1341
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 1: episode with a song, I delive from both sides now,

1342
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 1: from my weban down and still somehow it's a life's delusions.

1343
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 1: Every call, I really don't know life. There's a loud

1344
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 1: out out to listen to that you gotta listen to,

1345
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 1: Joni Mitchell, Both Sides Now, The joe Very boot scoots

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01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 1: fine