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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, it's Jefferson White coming back at you with

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Speaker 1: the Official Yellowstone Podcast, presented by Win Las Vegas. I

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Speaker 1: honestly can't even begin to tell you how much fun

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Speaker 1: I'm having doing this podcast. I'm so grateful for the

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Speaker 1: reviews you're leaving, the comments, and the overwhelming feedback. It

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Speaker 1: really it means the world us. We feel so lucky

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Speaker 1: to be a part of this conversation with you, and

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Speaker 1: I'm just so grateful for your time and your generosity

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Speaker 1: and your energy. So thank you so much for listening.

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Speaker 1: Let me start off by saying that I love the

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Speaker 1: show too. I'm a huge fan of the show, and

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Speaker 1: I'm learning so much more about the show, about the

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Speaker 1: people that make it through the process of doing this podcast.

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Speaker 1: So i just can't thank you enough, and I'm excited

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Speaker 1: to jump back in. Yes, i am still recording at

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Speaker 1: the Win Las Vegas. I had a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a chance to wander around today and it's nuts. It's incredible.

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Speaker 1: This place is amazing, and the people here, the staff,

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Speaker 1: are so friendly, so kind, so generous. I really can't

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Speaker 1: thank him enough. I could go on and on and on,

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Speaker 1: but everyone's pretty sick of hearing my voice already. Today

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Speaker 1: I get to hang out with my bunk House boys,

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Speaker 1: my dear friends. Unfortunately they couldn't make the trip out here,

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Speaker 1: but we dialed them in. We're gonna take a quick

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Speaker 1: break when we come back. I'm gonna chat with my

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Speaker 1: dear friends, fellow bunk house boys, Ian Bowen, Denham Richards,

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Speaker 1: and Jake Cream. We are joined today by my dear

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Speaker 1: friend Ian Bowen. Ian plays Ryan on the show, one

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Speaker 1: of the bunk house Boys, a branded man. Ian, thank

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Speaker 1: you so so much for being here.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's my pleasure.

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Speaker 3: I'm so I'm so happy to be with you guys

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Speaker 3: and doing more Yellowstone stuff.

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Speaker 1: So we've been doing this, we've been doing this for

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Speaker 1: four years now. Will you talk a little bit about

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Speaker 1: the experience of working on a show over time, how

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Speaker 1: you feel about it now versus when we started. We

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Speaker 1: just talk about what it's like to work on a

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Speaker 3: Being lucky enough to to to be on something that

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Speaker 3: lasts as long as is akin to I like to say,

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Speaker 3: going to you know, college, you start in a new place,

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Speaker 3: you have new people that dorm, you don't know anybody,

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Speaker 3: you don't know how to eat and where you go

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Speaker 3: and you kind of learn as you go, and then

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Speaker 3: you build a family and then by the time you know,

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Speaker 3: you could not ask for a better scenario for a

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Speaker 2: It's it's literally a dream comes come two times, you know.

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Speaker 1: Ten you mentioned family there. Will you talk a little

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Speaker 1: bit about it because we've we've we've been a part

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Speaker 1: We've shot so many scenes together. We've returned to the

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Speaker 1: little bit about what it means to you to to

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Speaker 3: The bunk House is a wonderful part of the show

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Speaker 3: that is separate from the regular day to day the

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Speaker 3: typically Yellowstone, The Bunk House Boys is like a break

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Speaker 3: when you when you get that into that arena, and

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Speaker 3: so you and me and Denim, Uh, you know, getting

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Speaker 3: It feels new and refreshed that that set, and it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a very authentic experience. Like not only have

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Speaker 3: Lived, you lived with Denim, Right, that's exactly right. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: Those relationships have like a really story of asking me, yes,

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Speaker 1: So there's something sort of it's kind of a back

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Speaker 3: So in the background of the of the piece right

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Speaker 2: We don't know how long they've known each other, We

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Speaker 2: You grow fuller with them.

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Speaker 3: So of course that flavors everything that you do, and

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Speaker 3: jokes and nuances because you've spent time that you can't

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Speaker 3: I don't know. But the stuff that just is there

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Speaker 3: You're like, we were just talking because you know, and

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Speaker 2: That it's different than just being you know, being employees together.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to fake a friendship. And it's also

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Speaker 3: then on this show. The emphasis on being particularly skilled

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Speaker 2: It's it's important. So we get taught.

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Speaker 3: And there's so many professional people on set to help

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Speaker 1: I think something that Taylor's brilliant at is he's brilliant

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Speaker 3: Well it's a it's a tribute to Taylor because he

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Speaker 3: He would probably sacrifice himself just so that things can

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Speaker 1: Thank you so so so much.

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Speaker 3: For taking this. Of course, let's do it again this here.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I can't wait, and I'll see.

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Speaker 3: You there season four. It's gonna knock everyone out and

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Speaker 3: we'll come back and talk more than I love you.

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Speaker 3: I miss you, and I can already see again soon.

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Speaker 1: Brother, I'll see you very soon.

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Speaker 3: I help, Okay, I'll look forward to it.

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Speaker 1: Man. I love talking to that guy.

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Speaker 3: Ian.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we started out as coworkers, but at this

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Speaker 1: Today we're talking to Denim Richards. Denim Richards place Colby

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 6: It's always a pleasure, as you said, to be with

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Speaker 4: We haven't thrived, but we have survived for four.

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Speaker 6: Seasons of a parent amount of networks and everyone show Yellowstone, Bro.

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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking of every time that we've showed up

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Speaker 6: It's like, you know, you show up and you're like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 6: And then nine and a half hours later you literally

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Speaker 6: You know, in this last season we didn't get to

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Speaker 1: Bro talk to me. Okay, so we've we've and we've

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Speaker 6: in you know, television or film usually never goes as

434
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Speaker 6: they tell you that it's going to go.

435
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Speaker 4: That doesn't necessarily mean it's gonna be a bad thing.

436
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Speaker 6: It just means you have to be malleable, you know,

437
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 6: you have to kind of go and be in a

438
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 6: space where you're like, look, I know that I'm gonna

439
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 6: be here, and I have to be present. And so

440
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 6: as you're reading these things, you think, okay, cool, maybe

441
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Speaker 6: it'll be you know, it'll be a fun, you know.

442
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Speaker 4: Brawl to do.

443
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Speaker 6: But you don't, even in myself, I don't know about you,

444
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 6: but sometimes when you're doing these physical things, you kind

445
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 6: of forget the fact that you're gonna do it more

446
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,360
Speaker 6: than one time. So you you read it and you're like, okay, cool,

447
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 6: you gonna show up on the day and they'll be

448
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 6: like a little brawl and then he turned to the

449
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Speaker 6: next page and then that's done, and it's like a

450
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Speaker 6: quarter of a page. But that quarter of a page

451
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Speaker 6: is like a thirteen hour day and it's you know,

452
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Speaker 6: twelve thirteen different setups and five different takes of taking

453
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Speaker 6: the same punishing. Oh, if we can just get a

454
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Speaker 6: little bit of dirt in your nose and maybe this

455
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 6: time instead of trying not to breathe in the dust,

456
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Speaker 6: if you could just pick up the dirt and just

457
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Speaker 6: lick it, that.

458
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Speaker 4: Would be great.

459
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Speaker 6: And you're just like all right, cool, but whenever you

460
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 6: have to do and then of course when they edit it,

461
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 6: you're like, okay, what looks amazing. But you know, on

462
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 6: those types of days you just kind of forget, you know,

463
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 6: and you know the days that will be hot, and

464
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 6: know lot of things. But the great thing and you know,

465
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 6: this life as an actor, in my opinion, becomes so

466
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 6: much more enjoyable when you're doing it with group of

467
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 6: people you know, and a group of people that actually

468
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 6: speak to and hanging out with, you know, outside of set.

469
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 6: Because at least bringing the takes, you can still be

470
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Speaker 6: conversing about something as opposed to oftentimes sometimes there'll be

471
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Speaker 6: a one on one kind of dialogue with somebody that

472
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Speaker 6: you don't really have any real kind.

473
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Speaker 4: Of close relationship with.

474
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Speaker 6: So on a day like that with a Teeter and

475
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Speaker 6: you know, and h and Ryan or Egan, you know,

476
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 6: and Cole and Ford who we've all hung out and

477
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 6: gone bullying and played cards with, you know, outside of set,

478
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 6: So it kind of becomes more of an enjoyable thing

479
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 6: that kind of gets you through those kind of ruling

480
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Speaker 6: pun is the constistency hitting the ground because we're all

481
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 6: kind of in the same world, going to do the

482
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 6: same punches and getting the same hit, so it becomes

483
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 6: a little bit more easier, which is why my favorite

484
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 6: days are always like the bunk house, because we kind

485
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 6: of all get to feed off of each other's ergy

486
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 6: and get to kind of celebrate and have fun with

487
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 6: each other when the numbers not rolling.

488
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that that's one of the brilliant

489
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 1: things about Taylor as a writer and about the filmmakers

490
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: is that a lot of that unspoken stuff, a lot

491
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: of those relationships that have been building behind the scenes

492
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: while we're bowling, while we're fucking playing poker, you know,

493
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: while everybody's talking shit. That stuff can't help but seep

494
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: into those scenes, you know. And something the Taylor's so

495
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: good at is he's so good at identifying those dynamics

496
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: that are developing and building on them. So from season one,

497
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: you know, one of the one of my favorite things

498
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: on the show is we always return to that table

499
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: in the bunk house. We're returning to that table in

500
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: the bunk house, and from season one to season four,

501
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: every relationship at that table is so much You're so

502
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: much more informed by history, both on the show and

503
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: outside the show, informed by experiences that me and you had,

504
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 1: you know, like shit that we did on our own days.

505
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: You know, a competition, you know, me you and Ian

506
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: going bowling, or me, you and I and playing tennis. Yeah,

507
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: shit can't help but trickle into the day like that

508
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: competitive atmosphere. So the show spends so much time with

509
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: the Dutton family, It spends so much time delving into

510
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 1: the like intricacies and history of their relationships. But from

511
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: the very beginning, Taylor has been so good, and I

512
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: think we've taken it ourselves to make it try to

513
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: make it feel like the bunk house boys have just

514
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: as much history, have just as many stories. I think

515
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: there's a real authenticity that we're seeking to bring to

516
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: these people. Because nobody just works a job. Everybody out

517
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 1: in the world, people you bump into, you see, nobody

518
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: is only one thing, you know what I mean, Like,

519
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: nobody is just their job. And so we've really taken

520
00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 1: it on ourselves from the beginning to try to make

521
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: it so these guys aren't just their job, you know.

522
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: They have whole lives outside the bunk house. They have

523
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: whole lives outside their responsibilities on their ranch. They have

524
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: all these different relationships and opinions and attitudes regarding all

525
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: the different characters we spend a little more time with.

526
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, But I think it adds to add to

527
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 4: what you're saying.

528
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 6: I think that's what adds to our own creativities as artists, right,

529
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 6: because you have to find this kind of this way

530
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 6: to show that there's much more richness, you know, because

531
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 6: I think it's very easy to just come across as

532
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 6: though the characters started with the camera on them, instead

533
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 6: of feeling and creating a feeling as though these characters

534
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 6: were existing before the camera given on them, and the

535
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 6: camera just happened to drop itself down into their lives

536
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 6: that were already going on, and as the camera goes

537
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 6: away from them to another world or another part of

538
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 6: the ranch, those characters' lives are still incuation.

539
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. Yeah, it really fleshes it all out and

540
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: makes it so much richer and deeper than just what

541
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: appears on camera. Will you talk to me really quick?

542
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: You've taught me a lot. You've taught me a lot

543
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 1: about a lot of things. You taught me a lot

544
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: about basketball. I've taught you a lot about Halo Reach.

545
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: You know, we've really we've talked into a lot of

546
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: stuff together. Something you've taught me a lot about is history.

547
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: Because you're someone who takes history very seriously. You carry

548
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: a sort of important legacy with you. Will you talk

549
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 1: to me about your relationship and any the responsibility that

550
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: you feel as Colby to sort of to bring a

551
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: very rich history to the Dutton Ranch. We talk about

552
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: that just a little bit.

553
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, it was the great thing about the fact

554
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 6: you've taught me about hal Reach, I've talked to you

555
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 6: about basketball. Both neither of us are making any money

556
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 6: and so we've really poured into each other. But you know,

557
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 6: I honestly having the oppera tunity to be, you know,

558
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 6: on this show in a capacity of you know, of

559
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 6: Kolbe on this show being you know, a black man,

560
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 6: a mellenated man or in Kee Congo you would call.

561
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 4: It Molindu, which is the people of the Sun.

562
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 6: Being that you carry so much of of a history

563
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 6: because our ancestors, that was what they were doing beforehand,

564
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 6: that was how they made their their living. They were

565
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 6: doing that actually on continent before they even ended up

566
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 6: in Americas. They were doing agriculture and dealing with cows,

567
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 6: you know, and doing cattles in all of those things.

568
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 6: So as I had started getting more and more into

569
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 6: just my own personal history, my family's history, even things

570
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 6: that are still coming out today, being able to be

571
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 6: on the show and seeing and dealing the response of

572
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 6: seeing that representation of you know, when we have like

573
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 6: forty five million African Americans in the West, and at

574
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 6: least half of them have all come from families that

575
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 6: actually started in the agricultural you know, only just added

576
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 6: culture of a ranching because that was part of livelihood

577
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 6: as for many people that were there and so getting the.

578
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 4: Opportunity to kind of.

579
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 6: Share that not not only with them, but like with

580
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 6: the ancestors that came before you. And then also understanding that,

581
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 6: you know, the rodeos that were created are actually created

582
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 6: and launched by this guy named Bill Pickett. And Bill

583
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 6: Pickett he used to take he used to ride up

584
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 6: or whatever on his horse would go after a bull,

585
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 6: and then you would ride up and then you would

586
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 6: jump from his horse onto a bowl, grab the horse,

587
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 6: the bull, and bite the lip of the buck and

588
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 6: drag it down to the ground and then rope it.

589
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 6: And this is why even in today where they still

590
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 6: have still picket rodeo, that is an annual event.

591
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 4: And you know, so being able to kind of.

592
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 6: Learn this and as my dad has taught me more

593
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 6: about the history, you know, it really is just a

594
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 6: different responsibility. But it's a beautiful responsibility because it's a

595
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 6: responsibility that's not given to everyone. You know, and so

596
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 6: as much as you you you realize how fortunate, how

597
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 6: blessed you, you also there is this extra out of

598
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 6: the layer of responsibility of just representation and representation and

599
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 6: a different light. And I think how we would usually see,

600
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 6: you know, our people represented Uh. So, I think that

601
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 6: that's what makes it interesting because we also were living

602
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 6: full lives and we're doing other things, you know, other

603
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 6: than just being these like one dimensional people. We also

604
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 6: were you know, cowboys and ranchers and you know, in

605
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 6: farmers and all these other things. So just being able

606
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 6: to wear that cat and wear that coat, and I

607
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 6: didn't honestly, you''ll wrap it up with with this. My

608
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 6: answer with this is that I didn't realize that responsibility

609
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,479
Speaker 6: until I actually went to the Bill Pickett rodeo and

610
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 6: I walk in and there was a family and there

611
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 6: was a three year old, a little year old young

612
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 6: prince with the cowboy hat on, a cowboy boots on,

613
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 6: and he was just so excited because this is the

614
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 6: guy that he had seen on Yellowstone. And his family

615
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 6: was like, they were so excited because this is something

616
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 6: that this kid wants to be a cowboy when he

617
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 6: grows up. So he's somebody that looks like him at

618
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 6: his age. It gives him the thing that like, oh,

619
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 6: I could do that as well, you know. So it

620
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 6: just becomes like those little things like that to us,

621
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 6: So we're like, what is it? But you know, we

622
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 6: all remember being young and wanted to have little things

623
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 6: to aspire to. Uh, it's those things that really make

624
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 6: you feel very fortunate and blessed to be able to

625
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 6: be in the.

626
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 4: Position and to do you know what we're doing with

627
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 4: this show.

628
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it's been I've been so so grateful to

629
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: you for your patience and your like grace in teaching

630
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 1: me about this stuff, Like I've looked to you to

631
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: learn about this stuff, about this rich history, but also

632
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: just horsemanship, because from day one, listen, let's be really honest,

633
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: we compete in a lot of ways, you know, we

634
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: trade back and forth these certain things. But from day one,

635
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: I've been learning from you how to ride. You've been

636
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: an amazing rider from basically when we started, and everybody

637
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: like they ask you to do stuff that they don't

638
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: ask the rest of us to do because they effectively

639
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: they know you can handle it. I've seen you do

640
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: and what you were saying earlier about you know, you

641
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: show up to work, you don't know what to expect,

642
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: and all you can really do is go in there

643
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: with an open mind, ready to do your job. You know,

644
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: like as an actor or as a rancher, it's impossible

645
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: to know what the new day is gonna bring. It's

646
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: impossible to know when we're when we're sort of riding

647
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: up on a herd of cattle, we don't know if

648
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: a calf is gonna split and run off. You don't

649
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen. The equivalent of that is you

650
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: don't know if Jeff's gonna be in a bad mood

651
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: because he stayed up way too late. There's a lot

652
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: of variables on set, and it's you. You are someone

653
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: who've always been so impressed by your ability to roll

654
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: with the punches and sort of figure out how to

655
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: do whatever is asked of you. That's something that I

656
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: am trying to learn from you as an actor because

657
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: I go in with a certain expectation and then if

658
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: if it changes, if it's not what I expected, that

659
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 1: shakes me. And I've seen you over and over again

660
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: identify what needs to be done and get it done.

661
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: And I think that's an incredible gift that you have.

662
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I appreciate that, you know, but I've

663
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 6: also you know, I think we we've learned a lot

664
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 6: from each other because you you bring a different a

665
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 6: different level of professionalism. And yes, we can all do

666
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 6: we all have different works, right, Like I have my corks,

667
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 6: you have yours. All that's what makes us unique or human,

668
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 6: So that's what makes us so But it's you know,

669
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 6: I think for us, one of the exciting things about

670
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 6: being on the show show is the fact of you

671
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 6: can't it's not predictable. So it feels as, oh, this

672
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 6: is just my personal opinion. It feels like this is

673
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 6: a show that if you try to anticipate the next day,

674
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 6: you're almost like doing yourself a great disservice because it's like,

675
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 6: it's just not going to be like that.

676
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: Venim, thank you so much for taking the time to

677
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: do this. Man, you're a busy man. You've got a

678
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: lot of incredible stuff going on. So thank you, so

679
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: so so much for taking the time to do this.

680
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: I so appreciate it, man.

681
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 6: No problem, Jeff. It's always a pleasure, and hopefully I'll

682
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 6: be seeing you soon.

683
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: Very soon. Thank you so much Denham for being here.

684
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: Denham is obviously incredibly busy. He's got a lot going

685
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: on and his time is valuable, so I feel so

686
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: lucky we got to chat with him. We're gonna take

687
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: a breath and then we're gonna be right back with

688
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: Jake Ream. So we are here today with Jake Ream.

689
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: Jake is a horse trainer, horse breeder, He's a rancher,

690
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: he's a business man. He's also, as of a few

691
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: years ago, an actor. So Jake appears on Yellowstone as

692
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 1: the character Jake. Jake does about thirty jobs on Yellowstone

693
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: in every department owes him a tremendous debt of gratitude.

694
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: So I'm really excited to talk to Jake. Jake, for

695
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: the folks that don't know you yet, who haven't had

696
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: the pleasure of being your friend for the last four years,

697
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: will you just tell him a little bit about yourself,

698
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: where you're from, how you came to wind up working

699
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 1: on Yellowstone.

700
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 5: Sure. So, my name's Jake Raim. I grew up in

701
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 5: a small town in Utah, Mapleton, Utah. I live in

702
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 5: Palmyra now, which is not too far from where I

703
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 5: grew up. My grandfather was in the sheep business pretty

704
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 5: heavily for a lot of years, so that's kind of

705
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 5: my foundation. We had just a tremendous time on horses

706
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 5: when we were younger, which paid off in the long

707
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 5: When I graduated to high school, kind of got a

708
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 5: job opportunity to move to Texas. I ended up going

709
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 5: to a town called Pilot Point, Texas and working for

710
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 5: a pretty big ranch down there. So that was that

711
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 5: was really cool. Got to meet a lot of great

712
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 5: people down there. I moved from Texas to California, worked

713
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 5: out there for a little while. I went from California

714
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 5: to at ten called called Gardnerville, Nevada, worked there for

715
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 5: a while, worked on the ranches, worked in northern California,

716
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 5: all kind of all over, and ended up moving back

717
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 5: to Utah. Uh, you know, ended up meeting Taylor, and

718
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 5: that's kind of kind of how the horse deals started.

719
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 5: And you know, it's a kind of many street from there.

720
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 5: It's uh something that something that I, you know, got

721
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 5: lucky to and I guess met the right people at

722
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 5: the right time, and now you and I are friends

723
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 5: and we're all friends.

724
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: So one of the one of the big themes of

725
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 1: Yellowstone is that the economics of ranching, how a ranch

726
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: the size of the Dutton ranch stays around as as

727
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: long as it does, how it pays its bills. And

728
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: from your own history, it sounds like you've sort of

729
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: worked on ranches in a lot of different ways and

730
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: seen the way they work from a lot of different perspectives.

731
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: So will you talk a little bit just about how

732
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: a ranch like the Dutton Ranch functions economically, what's the

733
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: business model? How does it work?

734
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 5: Well? I you know, I think I think nowadays, you know,

735
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 5: like the story says, a lot of it is is

736
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 5: is a real estate business sometimes. You know, a lot

737
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 5: of these ranches that are that are big when when

738
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 5: things get tough, they do sell sell parcels of ground

739
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 5: to pay for their you know, to pay for the

740
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 5: things that that they're needing. It seems to me like

741
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 5: in this day and age, that's kind of what's keeping

742
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 5: them alive. Obviously, the the Dutton ranch would be you know,

743
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 5: their cattle they're going to sell. They're now they're in

744
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 5: the horse business, you know, which a lot of the

745
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 5: big ranches are now in the horse business. The cattle

746
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 5: ranches they're raising and doing the breeding all that kind

747
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 5: of stuff. The I think the goal with the big

748
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 5: ranches is keeping that ranching livelihood alive, which is super

749
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 5: hard to do nowadays. You know, there's developments coming in,

750
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 5: you know, I mean, it's the Yellowstone story, you know,

751
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 5: hits home to a lot of people and you know,

752
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 5: it's something that they try to do anything you can

753
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 5: to keep it alive. I believe.

754
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a really authentic story. So ranches that size,

755
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: ranches that big are going through are asking themselves exactly

756
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: the same questions that John Dutton is asking. How do

757
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: I keep this land that's been in my family for generations?

758
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: How do I keep it going? How do I avoid

759
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: selling to these big developers. So the antagonists the Yellowstone,

760
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: the bad guys in Yellowstone, real ranches are facing this

761
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: all the time. So I talk to me a little bit.

762
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: You've worked on a lot of ranches. Talk to me

763
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: about raising cattle, the economics of raising cattle. Talk to

764
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 1: me about how that works.

765
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 5: Well, you know, the cattle, the cattle part of the

766
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 5: big cattle ranches. I haven't had the opportunity to be

767
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 5: on the big cattle ranches. A lot of big horse

768
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 5: ranches I've been on obviously. You know, obviously, they they're

769
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 5: raising what they what they need. Number wise, they try

770
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 5: to keep their replacement heifers, they try to breed them.

771
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 5: They try to breed the the better cattle. They're fats.

772
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 5: They sell their steers at the right time. They sell

773
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 5: some of their replacement heifers, the older cows that aren't breeding. Obviously,

774
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 5: they they go to sell barns. A lot of those

775
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 5: big ranches sell straight to the feed lots, uh, you know,

776
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 5: in in Texas and and there's a lot of the

777
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 5: big feed lots back there. So most of the ranchers

778
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 5: right when they wean those calves, they'll already have a

779
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 5: set price on them of what they are going to

780
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 5: sell for. And so those ranchers can already plumb x

781
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 5: amount of dollars coming in and it's just a year

782
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 5: after year type of thing, and that's you know, that's

783
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 5: their main income right there.

784
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: And then you also talked about horse ranching. So the

785
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: Yellowstone obviously in an effort John Dutton in an effort

786
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 1: to keep his ranch, in an effort to avoid having

787
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: to sell off parcels of land. In season four, Yellowstone

788
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: starts kind of diversifying his income stream. And one of

789
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: the things he gets into is competition horses, right, is

790
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: training and raising and sort of And that's something that

791
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: you have a lot of experience with yourself, right You've trained,

792
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: raining horses, cutting horses. We talk about bad aspect of

793
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: it a little bit.

794
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 5: You know, everyvery every every guy's dream is to have

795
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 5: an amazing stud horse. You know, if you get a

796
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 5: if you get a really good cutting stud horse, nowadays,

797
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 5: you can breed them, you know, ten to fifteen thousand

798
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 5: dollars per mare. There's a stud horse, Metallic Cat obviously

799
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 5: that we have heard the name of that Taylor has

800
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 5: brought into the show for season four. And that horse,

801
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 5: I want to say, he's right around fifteen thousand dollars

802
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 5: her mare to breed to. That's life ould get. And

803
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 5: I want to say, bread three hundred and fifty marors

804
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 5: last year. So you do the math on that, and

805
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 5: you get one of those, and you've hit yourself a

806
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 5: big home run. That's every guy. The ranching brood mares

807
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 5: that I'm going to call more of your working horses.

808
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 5: You know, you're your ranches will have, you'll tend to

809
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 5: twenty mares. They're going to bring you two different ds.

810
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 5: You know, those those good cowboy ranch horses are going

811
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 5: to bring seventy five hundred to twenty thousand dollars. You're

812
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 5: really good cutting horses are going to bring five thousand

813
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 5: to one hundred and fifty thousand. So if if one

814
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 5: of those colts gets trained up in the cutting horse

815
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 5: deal and it does really well in competition, and it's special.

816
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 5: You can price those cold at fifty to one hundred

817
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 5: and fifty thousand really easy, and they do sell and

818
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 5: they you know, the ranch horses, the cowboy horses with

819
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 5: yellowstones charted with you know, just your just your average

820
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 5: broke horses. You know they're there were there were some

821
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 5: good money, but you know they're not performance horses. And

822
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 5: that's what people are as the is the performance horses,

823
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 5: which obviously the Dutton ranch is trying to get into,

824
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 5: you know, they're trying to buy some rain and horses,

825
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 5: trying to buy some cutting horses, getting into all that

826
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,919
Speaker 5: come into these next seasons. So there is a there's

827
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 5: a big profit in there, and you can lose a

828
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 5: lot of money in it too if you don't do

829
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 5: it properly.

830
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: And you you first met Taylor because you were working

831
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: with him on this exact thing, right, you were selling

832
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: him a horse basically, So you're somebody who trains these

833
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: horses and then sort of pairs them up with people

834
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: who are interested in those performance horses, right, is that right?

835
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 5: Absolutely? Absolutely? Yep. I uh. I also take horses in

836
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 5: training and a lot of people and me young horses

837
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 5: two and three year olds, and you know that's my

838
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 5: job to train them, and I'll go perform on them

839
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 5: and do the best I can. This year, I've got

840
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 5: two horses that we've trained up that I'm showing at

841
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 5: the fort Worth deal here in about three weeks. I

842
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 5: had I had the fort Worth which is the three

843
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 5: year old for Churity, which is the big of the

844
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 5: big so hope and get a little luck there. And

845
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 5: I've trained those horses and you know, try to get

846
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 5: them showed for my comers. I also, you know, ride

847
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 5: a lot of lance horses, you know, and try to

848
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 5: make them better. Uh you know, any anybody that's got

849
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 5: issues or you know, horses up or run away with

850
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 5: them or have all those bad habits. That's kind of been,

851
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 5: you know, something that I've done in the past to

852
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 5: try to help people out and better better those animals

853
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 5: and make them better and help them fit each other.

854
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 5: And you're right, you know, you have to place that rider,

855
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 5: you know, a new rider. You got to place them

856
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 5: on the right horse. You know. No different than when

857
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 5: we went to Cowboy Camp. You know, we had ten

858
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 5: new actors and ten new horse. And for two weeks,

859
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 5: everybody rode every other horse and we all tried to,

860
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 5: you know, see what fit what, and I think we

861
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 5: found a real good fit for them for for Yellowstone.

862
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny that you talk about, you know, training

863
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: young clueless horses because Cowboy Camp four years ago, Season

864
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: one Yellowstone you got ten variously clueless actors. Will you

865
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about what it's like to kind

866
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: of connect those two worlds, the actors and the horses.

867
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Speaker 5: What was it like to connect actors and horses. It

868
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 5: was very scary. Now, it was a great experience, you know,

869
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 5: it was. It was it was fun to you know,

870
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 5: thank good for good horses. All the horses were really good.

871
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 5: But you know, it's it's like teaching somebody to ride

872
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 5: a bike. And and you know, the better that Philly have,

873
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 5: the the you know, the better they're going to communicate

874
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 5: with the horses. And it was nice for Taylor to

875
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 5: put me in the position. You know. At first, I thought, oh,

876
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 5: these actors, these famous people are coming. I'm not going

877
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 5: to be able to tell them what to do or

878
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 5: how to do it. And I remember Taylor said, hey,

879
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 5: you're you're their boss, you know, you tell them how

880
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 5: to go, what to do and where. And you know,

881
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 5: when I had that, okay, that I was able to

882
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 5: do that, and it made me feel a lot more

883
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 5: comfortable that I didn't have to, you know, be downd

884
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 5: the bush. And you know, I could say, damn you, Jefferson,

885
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 5: pull your head out of you know, the clouds, and

886
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 5: do what you're supposed to do, and you would say, oh,

887
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 5: what do you mean, and we'd talk about it and

888
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 5: then it did all work and we'd all have a

889
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 5: good time. So it was a great experience and it

890
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 5: actually it actually helped my horsemanship a lot too, knowing

891
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 5: the horses prior to putting actors on them. And it's

892
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 5: kind of funny how those horses molded with the uh,

893
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 5: with the you know, with the different attitudes of the

894
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 5: actors and the different attitudes of the horses, and it's

895
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 5: kind of funny how they all kind of came together.

896
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 5: You know. You know, you wrote you rode my daughter's horse,

897
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 5: old Blue Jeans, the gray horse first for a long time,

898
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 5: and when you got comfortable on him. You know, once

899
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 5: you got comfortable, boy, you you went up the ladder

900
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 5: really quick. And I'm just telling me that that because

901
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 5: you're my friend. But you did, you know, you got

902
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 5: super comfortable really quick because it was a gorse. You know,

903
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 5: it was a good horse, and you listened. And I

904
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 5: remember just you know, out here in the arena the

905
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 5: first time I let you work the mechanical cow and

906
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 5: you were chasing it back and forth, you know, the

907
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 5: fake cow. I thought, man, this guy's gonna fall off,

908
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 5: and I thought, here he goes. Nope, never did. I

909
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 5: couldn't even get you to fall off. I wish I

910
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 5: had that chance. Again.

911
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: We're very lucky to have, you know, a bunch of

912
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: actors who are trying very hard to learn, who are

913
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: very committed to learning. But we're also really lucky to

914
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: have real riders, real horse trainers, real experts, not just

915
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: behind the scenes but also on camera. You know. So,

916
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 1: what's it been like for you sort of appearing on

917
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 1: camera for the first time and acting for the first

918
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: time it sort of participating really in an increasingly crucial

919
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 1: role in the show.

920
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 5: Shared the hell out of me the first few times,

921
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 5: There's no doubt about that, you know. The first couple,

922
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 5: you know, I was always on camera in the background

923
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 5: and hanging out. I think the first clip. He let me.

924
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 5: I think I said a few words. In episode ten,

925
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 5: season one, he let me do a roping deal with

926
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 5: Rip and I almost can't even remember the lines. And

927
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 5: I remember going out there and roping and I turned

928
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 5: around and I set them and hit it and we

929
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 5: did it. And I didn't even bother me when I

930
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 5: was on the horse, kind of second nature. But when

931
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 5: we're sitting in the bunk house or somewhere else. We

932
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 5: did an episode start where I was sitting on a

933
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 5: fence and that's all I had to think about was

934
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 5: my lines. And I'm pretty sure Taylor was awfully mad

935
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 5: at me come the editing time. It was, well, it was,

936
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 5: it was. It was a cup couple of times. And

937
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 5: you know, it's okay. If I feel like if I

938
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 5: can just kind of be myself and get the general

939
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 5: drift of the conversation and maybe make some different stuff

940
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 5: up or ad lip a little bit, it makes me

941
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 5: a little more comfortable. But it's kind of funny. When

942
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 5: I'm sitting on a horse, it's not hard for me

943
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 5: to think about it, and I just do it. But

944
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 5: you know, sitting around the bunk house table or out

945
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 5: on the fence, or you know, some of the other

946
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 5: stuff that we've done. It if it's the only thing

947
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 5: I have to think about, it's I think I overthink

948
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 5: it a little bit, but I think we're getting a

949
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 5: little bit better at Hope. So I know you guys

950
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 5: always giggle at me and Teeter we did we did

951
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 5: a scene on season four and I really messed it

952
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 5: up really bad, and she turned and looked at me

953
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 5: and she says, come again. And I thought to myself,

954
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 5: was that in the script? And so I was teasing her.

955
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 5: I said, just remember who saddles your horse in the morning,

956
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 5: beautiful woman. So you know I can always get you

957
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 5: guys back. And yeah, you guys have teased me a

958
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 5: little bit. I've teased you guys, and it's been fun.

959
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 5: It's been awesome.

960
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's totally true what you said. It's easy

961
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: when you can just be yourself. And I think that

962
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: the tailor and the you know, production designers and the

963
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: whole crew have created a world that is so immersive

964
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: that sometimes you can't help but just be yourself. Like

965
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: they've really built this world to feel so authentic, and

966
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: especially for guys like you who grew up working on

967
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 1: a ranch when you go to work in the morning.

968
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: You're working on a ranch, you know. So I think

969
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: one of the big successes of the show is how

970
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: sort of immersive and authentic that the world that they've

971
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: built is.

972
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, you know, I think, man, I don't

973
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 5: I don't know that you could. I don't know. I've

974
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 5: seen if I've seen a Western that has better horses

975
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 5: and you know, authentic saddles and ropes. I think he's

976
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 5: put together a great crew. I mean, I look at

977
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 5: the I don't know if we've ever had an argument.

978
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, there's tough times in that, but it's

979
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 5: it's it's a great crew to with and everybody helps

980
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 5: each other. And I mean I've helped props, I've helped locations,

981
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 5: I've helped the helicopter pilot. I mean, you know, and

982
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 5: I think I think if you're in it to be

983
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 5: in the game, you better you better be in the

984
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 5: game and be on the team.

985
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: We're getting through it. Man, it's a it's a real

986
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: All of us on the show pretending to do this

987
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: are watching you guys constantly, you know, so we're taking

988
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: little lessons where we can get them. Jake, thank you

989
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: so so so much. For taking the time and for

990
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: taking care of us for going on five years now.

991
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 1: So thank you, brother. I can't wait to see you soon. Man,

992
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thank you so much for taking

993
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: the time.

994
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 4: Jake.

995
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: Jake has been absolutely instrumental in teaching me not only

996
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: how to ride a horse, but about this whole world,

997
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: the ranching world, the horse training world. And I feel

998
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: so lucky Jake is. Jake's amazing at a lot of things.

999
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: He does about ten on Yellowstone, and he's also just

1000
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: an incredible teacher who's taken such good care of me

1001
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: for the last four years. So thank you, Jake, and

1002
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: thank all of you out there for tuning in. I

1003
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: obviously wouldn't be able to do this without you the

1004
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: Yellowstone family. We get these opportunities, We get to do

1005
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: this fun stuff. I get to chat with my friends

1006
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: like this in beautiful Las Vegas because of you, so

1007
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: thank you, so so much. We drop new episodes every Thursday,

1008
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: so make sure to subscribe and tune in to the

1009
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: Official Yellowstone Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you get

1010
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: your podcasts. The Official Yellowstone Podcast is hosted by me

1011
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: Jefferson White and produced by One on One podcast studios

1012
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: in paramount network