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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Greece. The name Chanquila Robinson is

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Speaker 1: not at the hands of some unknown assailant, not some

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Speaker 1: Still no justice with a video Joining me is shankquil

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Speaker 1: wrong on so many levels. I mean, and see, Grace,

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Speaker 1: XM one eleven. First of all, take a listen to

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Speaker 1: our friends at WC and C. The attorneys representing Shanquella

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Speaker 1: seeking for Robinson's death. The Charlotte Observer reports those attorneys

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Speaker 1: letter includes findings from a trip a family attorney took

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Speaker 1: to Mexico recently. Robin Signor remember, died while in vacation

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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. Doctor Kennel Crowns joining me, the chief medical

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Speaker 1: Examiner Tarrant County. That's fort Worth. He is a lecturer

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Speaker 1: Doctor Crowns, that story stinks to high heaven And what

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Speaker 1: now that would be correct yet, miss Sellimandra Robinson. I

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Speaker 1: Or can we overcome that? Nancy, It happens, but it

427
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Speaker 1: happens very rarely. I have only worked a few cases,

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Speaker 1: and it wasn't cases where they wanted to try the

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Speaker 1: case in the United States. They wanted to try the

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Speaker 1: case in another country. You mean US officials want to

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00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: try the case in another country, because Sue Anne Robinson,

432
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: no no, no, no, keeps pointing out the recent Mexico

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00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: reportedly cartail murder of Americans that were there for a

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Speaker 1: tummy tuck. According to them, yes we got results, Yes

435
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: the White House reportedly intervened. But those killers, I believe

436
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: are being tried in Mexico. What I'm understanding or brand

437
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: is that our best shot is to get Mexico to

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00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: re and die with homicide, which is a really They've

439
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: already gotten one indictment off femicide, same grand jury, given

440
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: the same evidence, and indict for homicide. Don't you think

441
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: that's the easiest, simplest way to get just as Earth Nancy,

442
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: I think that's the only way. The alternatives are just

443
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: the complexity of the alternatives, I don't think or makes

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00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: it possible. The only way that these people are going

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00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: to be prosecuted as if they're charged with an extraditable

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00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: crime then taken back to Mexico and prosecuted there. It

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00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: doesn't It doesn't take one hundred and thirty six days

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00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: for the United States States Department to say, hey, guys,

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00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: we don't agree with this charge. Can you go back

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00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: and reindict or exactly what is right under the treaty.

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00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: It doesn't take one hundred and thirty six days for that,

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00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: and somebody actually has to do that. Someone has to

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00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: say other than us, has to say, hey, we can't

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Speaker 1: extradate based on this charge. So the issue is why

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00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: isn't it being done? Crime stories with Nancy Grace? Isn't

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00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: it true? Brandon Hamilton joining me from wb TV? Isn't

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00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: it true? We know who the perps are. They're in

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00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: the video. We not only know where they did live

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00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: before they immediately moved and got rid of their cell phones.

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00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's not hard to track down people just

461
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: because you get rid of your cell phone and move,

462
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: because you're still trackable through your bank records, your ATM movements,

463
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: what you do with your job. You're not working anymore.

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00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: Go to their family, their mom, their dad, their cousins,

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00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: their brothers, their sisters and find them. That's not the

466
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: hard part. We know who these people are. For Pete,

467
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: say what is named in a letter to the White

468
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: House and answer that is Greg and you meet. When

469
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,239
Speaker 1: you said tracking people down, I actually tracked down one

470
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: of those friends back in December. I traveled to her job.

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00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: She got off work. I met her in the parking lot.

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00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: You know, went up to her and you know, asked

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Speaker 1: her what happosition cool Robinson. Now, she had the look

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00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: of a ghost, like like she saw a ghost when

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00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: she realized that I was with a TV station. So

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00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: if you know, through sources, I found this address, It's

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00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: not hard for the federal government to do the same. Guys,

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00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: listen to our cut nine from w SC. Salamandra Robinson

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00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: describes her daughter Chanquila as a hard working business owner.

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00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: She remembers the last moment she saw her daughter happy

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00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: on a trip with friends in Cabo, Mexico. That's the

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Speaker 1: best some of her posts that she had put up.

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00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: She was really having a nice time and I don't

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00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: know where it went wrong from there. Salomandra hold me

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00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: over zoom. She last spoke with her daughter on the

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Speaker 1: phone on Friday, October twenty eighth. The next day, Salamandra

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00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,239
Speaker 1: says she received a friendic call from Shanquila's friends. They

488
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: say she wasn't billing ware that it was alcohol boys

489
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: and we was going along with this story even though

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00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: we'd never believe anything. It was turnless, Salamandra says she

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00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: came across this video. Salamandra identified the people in the

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00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: video as Shan Quila and her Cabo travel partners. You

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00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: can hear someone in the video ask if Quela could

494
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: at least fight back. There wasn't no fight. They attacked her.

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00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: It was never fight. She didn't fight, They attacked her. Now,

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00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: Salamandra says she has more questions than answers. She wants

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Speaker 1: justice for her daughter. She was a good chat and

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00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: had a great heart and she did not deserve to

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Speaker 1: be treat like that. Doctor Bethany Marshall joining us renowned

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00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: psychoanalysts joining us out of Beverly Hills at doctor Bethany

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00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: Marshall dot So the mom Miss Robinson, she ain't even great.

502
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: So she's all torn up about losing her daughter, and

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00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: in the midst of that, she's trying to force two

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00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: governments to reconcile to seek justice. And also in the

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00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 1: middle of all of this, Nancy, she has these crazy

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00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: homicidal friends of her daughter contacting her at large, texting

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00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: each other. All this communication going on, it could be

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00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: possible evidence, you know, the missing peace in all of this.

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00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: I look at this from a group psychology perspective. In

510
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: every group, one person gets cast out and devalued valued.

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00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 1: And if we think of the group at this group

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00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: psychology is consisting of the Mexican government, the US government,

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00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: the White House, that Schenquila is the one in this

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00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: group who has been cast out and devalued as if

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00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: her life is worthless. And evidence of that is that

516
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: there is so much going on that could convict these friends.

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00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: And there's this also, this this missing piece of psychology.

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00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm trying to wrap my mind around. Nancy, have you

519
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 1: guys planned a girl's trip? I know you've been married

520
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: forever and you have your kids, but you ever planned

521
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: just to go out of town with friends, not twins?

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00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: So you tell me, okay, I'm well, all the friends

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00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,439
Speaker 1: start texting each other, what are you going to wear?

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00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: Or you know, are you going to tuck a suitcase?

525
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: Are you just going to do a carry on? You know?

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00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: How long are we going to take it? You know what?

527
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: At the restaurants we're going to go to, there is

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00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: so much communication, and to think that during that communication

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00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: that these friends actually had homicidal intent towards chan Quila.

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00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: This was not just an attack that happened spontaneously. These

531
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: friends wanted her. So called friends wanted her out of

532
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: the way so that the plotting, the planning, the motivation

533
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: happened weeks before the homicide. Where is all that evidence?

534
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: Why don't we know much about that? And why is

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00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: this lovely family attorney or lovely attorney who is there

536
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: for the family. Why did she have to go down

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00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: and do the investigation herself. I just don't see how

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00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: she can heal at all until she gets justice. I mean,

539
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: I remember after my fiance was murdered. There was of

540
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: course the shot in the grieving, but you can I

541
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 1: can't even start to get one step further until after

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00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: the trial, which was a whole nightmare within itself. Missus Robinson,

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00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: Chicquola's mother, what was the argument about? Why were they

544
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: picking on her? I have no idea, m book. I

545
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: don't know everything was normal. I didn't know that they

546
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: had a you know, a beef with each other. I

547
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: didn't know anything about that. Missus Robinson. When you how

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00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: want that it take you before? You would look at

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00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: that video, well, I look to see the people in

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00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: the video. And I still have a hard time looking

551
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: at the way that she actually done my child. But

552
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: I did it. It took me a good I know,

553
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: probably a good month before I could actually look at it.

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00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: Sue Anne Robinson joining us the lawyer for Chanquola's family.

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00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: You can find her frontline firm dot com. Sue Anne,

556
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: I mean you've had to now go to Mexico and investigate.

557
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 1: I guess now you'll have to go back to Mexico

558
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: to pressure the Attorney General to reindict the case as

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00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: opposed to femicide as a homicide. Is that what it's

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00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: going to take. I certainly hope that I don't have

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00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: to continue to do the job that the Department of

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00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,959
Speaker 1: Justice in the State Department is supposed to do. I'm

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00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: hoping that the deep, the level of detail, including suggested

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00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: charges pursuance to their own investigation, that we included in

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00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: the letter, you know, would be enough assistance. The issue, honestly,

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00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: isn't that there's precedent. Isn't that the Department of Justice

567
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: doesn't know what to do, that the State Department does

568
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: not know what to do. It's not prioritize and this

569
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: just happens to be a case where justice delayed will

570
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: absolutely be justice denied because every single day that goes by,

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00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: evidence is being dissipated. Eyewitness testimony is being dissipated, their

572
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: memories are fading, physical evidence is not present. And so

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00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: every single day that passes an hour in one hundred

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00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: and thirty seventh day that passes from this heinous act

575
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: can lead to this case met possibly never getting justice.

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00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 1: And that's not an option for the family, and that's

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00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: not right and it's not fair. I've had cases that

578
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: lingered until the point where I've actually had witnesses die

579
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: before I could get the case to trial. Her brand.

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00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: Could you please speak in a nutshell and tell me

581
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: what's the answer. The answer is just what Attorney Robertson

582
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: just set the Mexican authorities. US authorities obviously have to

583
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: communicate better with each other. If Mexican authorities haven't been

584
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: told that the extradition request has been denied because the

585
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: charge is wrong, then they should be informed of that,

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00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: and then Mexican authorities should reindict the case with the

587
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 1: correct charge that these people can be extradited under the tree.

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00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 1: It's not harder a mistrial and an opening statement once

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00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: on a Monday, where I call the child sex traffickers

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00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: a pimp. They weren't charged with pimp, so there was

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00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: a mistrial because I said that an opening statement. I

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00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: went back to the granjury on Tuesday and had it

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00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: reindited it include a misdemeanor charge of pymptom and started

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00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: with a new jury on Wednesday. It's not hard to

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00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: re indict. If you want your voice to be heard,

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00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: if you want justice for shan Quila Robinson, please go

597
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: to crime online dot com and sign our online petition.

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00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: We are sending it to Mexico authorities. We are sending

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00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: it to Carolina authorities, to the attorney general in both jurisdictions,

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00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: and to the White House. Taking a page out of

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00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: the book of Sue Anne Robinson, I want justice for

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00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: shan Quila and her mother. We wait as justice unfolds.

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Speaker 1: Goodbye friend,