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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to step Mom Never Told You?

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Speaker 1: From House top Works dot Com. Hey there, and welcome

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Speaker 1: to the podcast. I'm Kristen and I'm Molly. Molly. Whenever

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Speaker 1: I think of diamonds, I think of Marilyn Monroe. Yes, logical,

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Speaker 1: She's wearing a hot paint dress singing a certain song

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Speaker 1: called Diamonds Are a Girl's Best Friend. And when I

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Speaker 1: first watched the movie Gentlemen Prefer Blonds, which is when

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Speaker 1: you know, Marilyn Monroe sings the big Diamonds number, I

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Speaker 1: was maybe I don't know, ten or eleven years old,

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Speaker 1: and the song really got on my nerves because I

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Speaker 1: was like how I was like, that's stupid, Marilyn Monroe.

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Speaker 1: Diamonds cannot be your best friend. They can't talk to you,

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Speaker 1: they can't play games with you. So, Molly, what do

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Speaker 1: you think um our diamonds girl's best friend was Marilyn Monro? Right,

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Speaker 1: you know, Kristen, I think to answer that question, we're

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Speaker 1: going to have to look a little bit at the

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Speaker 1: history of diamonds and what you should probably know, what

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Speaker 1: you probably did not know when you were ten, was

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Speaker 1: that gentlemen preferred blonds. That movie came out in nineteen

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Speaker 1: fifty three, and you know what was going on at

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Speaker 1: the height of that time, what promotion of diamonds. Basically,

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Speaker 1: all the diamonds in the world are owned and sold

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Speaker 1: by one company called the Beers, who may sue us

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Speaker 1: after this podcast, but basically to make money, obviously they

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Speaker 1: had to sell the diamonds. And this all started um

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Speaker 1: in the early nineteen hundreds when they're like, oh man,

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Speaker 1: we got all these diamonds, we got to sell them.

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Speaker 1: And one of the big things seven was a copywriter

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Speaker 1: wrote the famous line diamond is Forever. And this was

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Speaker 1: sort of the lynch pin of just the most brilliant

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Speaker 1: marketing campaign of all time. I think Advertising Age actually

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Speaker 1: named the Diamonds is Forever slogan, like the number one

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Speaker 1: slogan of the male and because it was so successful,

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Speaker 1: because really, before de Beers came around and started hawking

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Speaker 1: their diamonds to uh two women everywhere, Um it dononds

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Speaker 1: really weren't that huge of a deal. Oh no, you

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Speaker 1: did not get a diamond engagement ring the way we

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Speaker 1: think of getting diamond engagement rings now, um, my favorite

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Speaker 1: old engagement ring was some women I think in the

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Speaker 1: Victorian era used to get symbols engagement that was the

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Speaker 1: token of appreciation. And before the diamond campaign came along,

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Speaker 1: it was much more likely again, opal ring and ruby ring, sapphires, turquoise,

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Speaker 1: these were the more exotic jewels because really diamonds are

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Speaker 1: very common right there. They're no more uncommon than any

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Speaker 1: of the other, you know, precious gems. But because of

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Speaker 1: the way de beers marketed them to us, we think

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Speaker 1: of them as these very exotic gems and they really

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Speaker 1: symbolize a lifetime together um as as emphasized by a

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Speaker 1: diamonds forever. And you know, part of their campaign was

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Speaker 1: getting diamonds on celebrities like Marlon Monroe, offering them to

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Speaker 1: the queen. So wherever you turned as a young woman

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Speaker 1: in that time, you saw your idols wearing diamonds, right,

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Speaker 1: And the campaign worked so well. But I think it

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Speaker 1: was by nineteen sixty five percent of American women were

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Speaker 1: wearing diamond engagement rings. Yeah. And you know what I

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Speaker 1: think really the brilliant part of this was is they

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Speaker 1: appeal to women because they're like, oh, look at this

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Speaker 1: very wonderful jewel, you must have it. But it also

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Speaker 1: said to men, if you really love your lady, you

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Speaker 1: gotta get our diamond. Yeah, there's this whole thing around. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, an engagement rings should you know, typically cost

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Speaker 1: average cost of a diamond engagement ring these days is

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Speaker 1: thirty two dollars, right, And do you know what the

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Speaker 1: markup on that is? What as soon as you put

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Speaker 1: mean diamonds, to be fairly honest, not to hate on

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Speaker 1: diamonds not that special. You're right, Molly, Diamonds really are

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Speaker 1: not are not that's special because what they're made of,

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Speaker 1: carbon is not exactly uncommon. I mean, eighteen percent of

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Speaker 1: our bodies are made up of carbon. It's everywhere. It's

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Speaker 1: just a very particular kind of carbon. It's you know,

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Speaker 1: basically just gonna not become a diamond, but probably becomes

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Speaker 1: something like graphite or full. Right, It's not like you

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Speaker 1: So why do we so? Why do we have these

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, Molly. You know, as a

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Speaker 1: rings in the first place. Well, rings give and on

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Speaker 1: the occasion of an engagement are sort of an old

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Speaker 1: by the Archduke Maximilian of Austrian fourteen seventy seven. Clearly

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Speaker 1: a romantic million be still my heart. Um, And it

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Speaker 1: to do a diamond engagement ring. Now, mollly, I think

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Speaker 1: is starting to develop. By that point, virginity was really

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Speaker 1: leave them high and dry exactly so wants the girl

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Speaker 1: to do put a down payment on that with an

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Speaker 1: something I mean, it's basically like a no trespassing sign like,

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Speaker 1: two months of your salary on me, so that's an investment. Well, also, Molly,

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Speaker 1: until the nineteen thirties, a woman could sue her fiance

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Speaker 1: So once again, this reinforces the whole idea of you know,

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Speaker 1: this right. The guy's name is to Toshi Kanazawa, and

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Speaker 1: he wrote a book called Why Beautiful People Have More Daughters.

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Speaker 1: He did this little excerpt of it um a psychology today,

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Speaker 1: according to this guy, the more useless a gift the better,

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Speaker 1: while at the same time being very expensive. That's how

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Speaker 1: that's not exactly Uh, diamond engagement ring isn't a guarantee

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Speaker 1: do catch on? Kristen, have you ever seen a right

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Speaker 1: diamond ring. Right, But that's still I don't know. It

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Speaker 1: So does that mean that you don't think that diamonds

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Speaker 1: precious gems. There's also been a lot of controversy about UM,

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Speaker 1: those you know, those groups. Then you know inflict suffering, Yes,

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Speaker 1: massive suffering, UM. But you know, people know it's a problem.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to hear it? Yes? I do. Hormones. Hormones.

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Speaker 1: They're mentioned in all of our podcasts, So hormones must

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Speaker 1: It's always hormones, you know. Female hormones definitely make us

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Speaker 1: it's behind some yearning for a diamond, Molly. It is marketing. Wow,

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