1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Dearest John, It's been a fortnight since I felt your 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: warm embrace. Dear Sam, such it has since we started 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: the Okay storytem podcast. Yes, and I have a message 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: for you, a delicious story that I think your love. 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 2: Sincerely Sam. 6 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: But before that, thine divine two minute outbreak must happen, 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: I bid thee farewell. 8 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: See you in two minutes. 9 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 3: My in law's destroyed my reputation and my wife protected them. 10 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 2: The law is not on your side here. 11 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 3: My twenty seven male marriage is in a really bad 12 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 3: spot after a deep breach of trust. I don't know 13 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 3: how to recover or how to trust my wife. Thirty 14 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 3: female again. We've been together seven years, married for five 15 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 3: with a two year old son. We met at a 16 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: convention where I was blown away by her cosplay. 17 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: That's nice, aw. 18 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 3: I struck up a conversation and the rest is history. 19 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: She's the most loving, unselfish and decent person I've ever met, 20 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 3: or at least I thought she was. By the way, 21 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 3: this comes from throw a draft set and if you do. 22 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 3: You want to smit your own stories, go to the 23 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 3: r slash Okay Storytime. Separate it. 24 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: I'm Sophia, I'm Matt and I am Riley, and this 25 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: is Matt. He's a good friend of ours. 26 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: Howdie and o P says. 27 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 3: Our relationship was never without challenges, but our biggest obstacle 28 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 3: was always her family. My presence was unwelcome from day one. 29 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 3: They're incredibly close knit, operating like a pack where if 30 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 3: one member doesn't accept you, you're shut out entirely. Yikes. 31 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 3: There are a few family members who broke away from 32 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 3: this toxic dynamic, but they're treated as black sheep, completely 33 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 3: cut off and barely acknowledged. I didn't fully understand the 34 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: extent of her family's control, but I knew family meant 35 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,279 Speaker 3: everything to my wife. Her entire upbringing centered around family 36 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 3: loyalty above all else. So I tried everything in my 37 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: power to make it work with them, bending over backward 38 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: to gain their acceptance. They barely tolerated me until our 39 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 3: son was born. Oh dang, I'm like, they only care 40 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: about the grandson. 41 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: I mean, at least they care about it, you know, yeah, 42 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: at least somewhere. 43 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: But it's like you have to earn your keep in 44 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: the most of like permanent ways. 45 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you've secured your your your line and so now, okay, 46 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: between our wedding planning, and shortly before the ceremony, I 47 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 3: became the target of relentless, vicious cyber bullying. 48 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh he's a. 49 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 3: Thirty year old. Oh actually, no, that would have been 50 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 3: at twenty five. They're bullying a twenty five year old. 51 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 3: That's so weird. I mean, don't bully. 52 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: Anyone, Yeah, especially when you get older. 53 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: Don't bully anyone. But like, those are adults bullying an adult. 54 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: That's weird. I feel like if you're if you start 55 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: out as a bully, you never kind of outgrow that, 56 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: You just find different avenues. 57 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 58 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, this whole family seems I wonder if. 59 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: It's it's less of a they accepted ope after the 60 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 2: kid was born, or is it ah man, we can't 61 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: get rid of them now. Yeah. 62 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 3: It was deeply personal and coordinated. Fake negative reviews flooded 63 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 3: my business profile, costing me potential clients and threatening my livelihood. 64 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 3: I had no idea where it was coming from or 65 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: why someone would target me so systematically. Every time I 66 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: reported accounts, it would take forever for anything to be done, 67 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 3: and then a new account would pop up for another 68 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 3: round of attacks. Oh my gosh, this is I mean like, 69 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 3: how do you eve ensue these? 70 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: Like? You don't? 71 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, can you arrest someone for 72 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: making fake accounts? 73 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 2: Like this? 74 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: Is that possible? 75 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: I mean you could. You could potentially sue for like 76 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: bibel however lost wages? 77 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, false, I don't know. False, that's biblical false witness. 78 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he would have to like find. 79 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: You could probably do it if you hired like a PI. 80 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: But that's a lot of money and effort. 81 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: The whole nightmare impacted every aspect of my life and 82 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: destroyed my mental health. My wife was incredibly supportive throughout 83 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 3: this ordeal. She became my rock, my anchor in the storm. 84 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 3: She held me when I broke down, encouraged me when 85 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 3: I wanted to give up, and reminded me of my 86 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: worth when the attacks made me question everything about myself. 87 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: I loved her even more for how she stood by 88 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 3: me during the darkest period of my life. Then, as 89 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: suddenly as it began, the trolling stopped. I wanted nothing 90 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 3: more than to move on and put it all behind me. 91 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 3: For years, I thought I had until the other day 92 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: when my wife confessed that her family was behind the 93 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 3: entire pestument campaign. 94 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: What wait time? Out, so you knew? How long did 95 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: you know? 96 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: That's my I'm worrying, And why did you let it 97 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 2: go on? 98 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 3: Because if she knew while they were doing it, why 99 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 3: did you let it go on? 100 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? 101 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 3: If she just found out, why have we not cut 102 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 3: off your entire family? 103 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: Yes? 104 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: I didn't believe her at first. It seemed too cruel, 105 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 3: too calculated, but she was serious and showed me proof 106 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 3: in their family group chat. 107 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: Oh this is gone to group chat level. Oh so 108 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: if they're. 109 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 3: Okay posting it on the group chat, then she knew. 110 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, Yeah, you got it. And it's like, why 111 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: why are you? Why did you wait until now? What 112 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 2: makes this the opportune time? And like what did you 113 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: do to fun? Did she make them stop finally or 114 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: did they just like okay onboard? 115 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 3: But she was so and showed me proof. Reading those 116 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: messages felt like being transported right back to that dark time. 117 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 3: They were gloating about their success, justifying their actions with 118 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: comments like some people got to learn the hard way, 119 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: got to learn what And if he wants to join 120 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 3: the fold, here's his initiation. So they're hazing you. 121 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, is this a frat? 122 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 3: Her family frat hazed you, who do you know here? 123 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 3: That's crazy. I knew I wasn't their favorite person, but 124 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 3: I never realized they hated me enough to orchestrate such 125 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 3: a systematic campaign of destruction. The casual cruelty and their 126 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 3: messages was breathtaking. I asked my wife when she found 127 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 3: out and whether she participated. She swore she wasn't involved 128 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 3: and would never do that to me. According to her, 129 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 3: she didn't initially know her family was behind it until 130 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: a few months before our wedding when one of my 131 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 3: sisters in law twenty eight female, accidentally left a fake 132 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: profile open on her phone. My wife saw it, confronted 133 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 3: the family and made them stop. 134 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 2: Oh what. 135 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 4: I don't know if I would. 136 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 3: Care, I'd be like, yeah, you made them stop, but 137 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 3: they're still in our lives. 138 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: At this point. Now that you're admitting to it, and 139 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 2: now that you know, there has to be a barrier 140 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 2: of like if you have to stop the same interaction 141 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 2: that you would. 142 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 3: Have absolutely yeause now you know. 143 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 2: Like, okay, you're not you don't just actively dislike my 144 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: partner he's in You despise them and are willing to 145 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: ruin our entire livelihood because. 146 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: His finances affect her. 147 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, they are a unit now, and if he's not 148 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: doing well financially, she's not doing well financially. Plus whatever 149 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 2: kids they have. Yeah, and it's like, Okay, you're collateral, 150 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 2: but we don't care. It's part of the hazing. 151 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 3: But here is what broke me. I asked why she 152 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 3: was telling me now years later. So it's been five years, 153 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: five years since that because they're thirty and they got 154 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 3: married when they were twenty five. 155 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, and two years will be finally divorced. 156 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: Yep. 157 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 3: She said the secret had been weighing on her. She 158 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 3: confided in her eldest sister, thirty five female, one of 159 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: the family's black sheep. The sister threatened to tell me 160 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 3: the truth. If my wife didn't come clean herself. 161 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: Let's go. 162 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 3: She was just never gonna tell Yeah, yeah, she was 163 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 3: never gonna tell. 164 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: Opeople take the secret to her grave. Why don't she? 165 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 3: If you're a black sheep in this family, it's good. 166 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: It's like, oh, you're normal, cool, you're not a fact. 167 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: That Opie is not a black sheep says a lot 168 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: about her. 169 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: And then I glanced into the sister's eyes and kind 170 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: of saw something I've never seen before. 171 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, go get her sister. 172 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: It's like a Hallmark romantic comedy. Yeah, Halloween edition. Because 173 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: of what she was a busy businessman and she was 174 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: the black sheep. 175 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: She was the black sheep of her family. He was 176 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 3: set to marry her sister, but. 177 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: She decided she'd had enough. 178 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 3: So that's great, someone write that. So she didn't tell 179 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: me out of guilt or love or respect for our marriage. 180 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: She told me because she was backed into a corner. 181 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 3: She was blackmailed. 182 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 2: My question is at this point, like, if it was 183 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: someone else that they were doing this too, would the 184 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: sister have joined in? I feel like she would have 185 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: sheep sister's spouse, Yeah, would she have been part of this? 186 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 3: Nothing my wife said made any of this better. She 187 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: had known for years what her family did to me 188 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: and chose to hide it. She watched me suffer, held 189 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: me while I cried. Boy the pestrumnt, and never once 190 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: considered that I deserve to know the truth. It hurts 191 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: more coming from her because she witnessed my pain firsthand 192 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 3: and still chose to protect them over me. I went numb. 193 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 3: My wife grew anxious and kept pushing for me to 194 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: respond to say something anything. Finally, I told her there 195 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 3: wasn't anything she could say right now that would make 196 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 3: this okay. What she did was no better than her 197 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: family's actions. They made my life heck, and her first 198 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: instinct was to cover for them, just like she'd been 199 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 3: trained to do her entire life. She started crying and 200 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 3: begged me to understand. She insisted it wasn't like that, 201 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 3: claiming she was trying to make things right with as 202 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 3: little damage as possible while mending relationships. But whose relationships 203 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 3: was she protecting? Certainly not ours. I told her I 204 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: needed space to process everything. She fought me on this, 205 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: insisting we could work through this together, but I held 206 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 3: her I needed time to think without her trying to 207 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 3: manage my emotions or steer my reactions. 208 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really smart, because I don't know. I feel 209 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: like if you do try to process with someone that 210 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: has been manipulating you in some way, shape or form, she's. 211 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 3: Going to keep doing that. 212 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly where. 213 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: You don't know when she's being genuine at that point 214 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: and when she's actually like trying to continue the manipulation 215 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: try to save herself and everybody else, Like, you can't 216 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: always stay on the fence. 217 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 3: Also, how would you even like continue in this relationship 218 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 3: if she has a relationship with her family, Just like, 219 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 3: not even from the betrayal of her having that relationship 220 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 3: with the family and not cutting them off, but just like, 221 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 3: are you expected to go to family events? 222 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? 223 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 3: With these people? 224 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: What your Thanksgiving looking like? 225 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: You know? 226 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: Like or would you never go? Because I would feel 227 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 3: like it's totally reasonable for you to never see them again? 228 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 3: But you know, know, is she gonna be able to 229 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 3: how is she going to navigate that? Are they gonna 230 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 3: start harassing you more because you're not coming to anything. 231 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: I'm wondering if there's an aspect of like just cultural 232 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: or familial pressure in this. Yeah, like you have to 233 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: stick with the family no matter what. Everyone else is 234 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: an outsider, even if like they're by marriage, they're not 235 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: by blood. I wonder if there's an aspect of that 236 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 2: playing into wife's psyche. 237 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 3: Here could be space isn't a request she's respected. She 238 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 3: keeps trying to force conversations to push past my boundaries 239 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: the same way her family taught her to do. I'm 240 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 3: really trying to understand her perspective and move past this betrayal, 241 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 3: But I feel completely shattered. I trusted her more than 242 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 3: anyone in my life. I was most vulnerable with her, 243 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 3: sharing my deepest fears and insecurities. Even after she knew 244 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: the truth about who was tormenting me, I continued opening 245 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 3: up to her about the lasting impact of that pesterment. 246 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: Looking back, I realized she encouraged me to let it 247 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 3: go and not allow it to have any claim on me. 248 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 3: At this time, I thought she had my best interests 249 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 3: at heart. Now I see it as another attempt to 250 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 3: protect her family by minimizing the damage they caused. I 251 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 3: hadn't confronted anyone from her family directly. Honestly, I don't 252 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: think they're worth my energy, but I've made it clear 253 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 3: they're no longer allowed to see our son until further notice. 254 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 3: Now I'm getting texts about how I'm depriving my child 255 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 3: of grandparents and aunts over past family spats. Past family spats. 256 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 3: That's what they're calling a coordinated pestment campaign that nearly 257 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 3: destroyed my business and my mental health. I would I 258 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 3: go to the wife and be like, Hey, like, let's 259 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 3: talk about this. I want to, you know, show me 260 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 3: the proof and stuff, show me all this download it 261 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 3: all sue them. Yeah, sue them because now you have proof. 262 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've lost to them, You've lost business for it 263 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 2: potentially ruined your business and your your mental health and anguish. 264 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 2: I struggle to see how the family doesn't see how 265 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: Ope knowing it is causing them distress and causes them 266 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 2: to distrust him. It's like it was just a prank. 267 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 2: Bro No no, no, no no, because like this ruins 268 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: people's lives. Yeah, you never know how stable or unstable 269 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 2: a person is. 270 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 3: One of the most difficult aspects of this whole situation 271 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 3: is the distance from my wife. She's been my best 272 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: friend and partner in every way for seven years. Now 273 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 3: we're mostly communicating only about our son and household necessities 274 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 3: like roommates managing logistics, rather than lovers sharing a life. 275 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 3: She's hurt by what she sees is my rejection, and 276 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 3: she's been crying often. I don't get over it. It's 277 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 3: your fault. Part of me wonders if I'm being unfair 278 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 3: to her, But then I remember that she had years 279 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 3: to tell me the truth and chose not to. She 280 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 3: chose them over me, over us, over our marriage. I 281 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: hate all of this. I want to make our marriage work, 282 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: but I'm questioning everything about our relationship now. How many 283 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 3: other times has she chosen her family's comfort over my 284 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 3: well being? What else has she hidden to keep the 285 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: peace with people who actively trying to destroy me? I'm 286 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 3: lost and need an outside perspective. How do I navigate 287 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 3: this situation and move forward for my marriage, for myself 288 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 3: and for our son? Is it possible to rebuild trust 289 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 3: after such a fundamental betrayal? Can a marriage survive when 290 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 3: you discover your partner will sacrifice your well being to 291 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 3: protect people who hate you? And how do I co 292 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 3: parent with someone whose family considers psychological warfare and acceptable initiation? 293 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 3: I love my wife, but I don't know if love 294 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 3: is enough to overcome the fact that when push came 295 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 3: to shove, she chose her family secrets over our marriage's 296 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 3: foundation of trust and honesty. I'm really lost right now 297 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 3: and could use any advice on how to move forward? 298 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 3: And there is there are some comments. Do you have 299 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 3: any thoughts though? Before we get into those. 300 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: I think it's possible to repair the trust repecial, especially 301 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 2: after years of this. Okay, it's it's gonna be a 302 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: long shot. Okay, it's gonna be a long shot, it is. 303 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: But wife's got to do work. The wife, he's got 304 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: to do the work. She has to cut off contact 305 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: from like all this entire. 306 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 3: Family, massive amounts of therapy. 307 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: Massive amounts of therapy receipts, and help process possibly the 308 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: lawsuit idea consistently prove that OP is more important than 309 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 2: the family now and like put the work in. Okay, 310 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: it's possible, but it's extraordinarily unlikely that wife he's gonna 311 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: want to do it if she tries to go through 312 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: with it. 313 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: Divorce, yeah, I think they won She needs to got 314 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: off her family and then also divorce OP. Because if 315 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: she is now on the path of Okay, I'm going 316 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: to try and prove myself and gain back your trust, 317 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: She's going from doing that with her family and you know, 318 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: slandering you to you know, now worshiping you and now 319 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: trying to earn that all back just for you. And 320 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: that's not healthy either unless it's as me very amicable 321 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: couples counseling that in a way, I just don't see 322 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: it really working out because now she's trying to prove 323 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: to you that she's a good job, good guy, you know. 324 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: I mean, in the long run. There's gonna be issues. 325 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 2: If they do decide they want to try to save it. 326 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: There is a possibility. It's like a one in a 327 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 2: million shot. But if they really really wanted to, they could, 328 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: It's it's gonna be tough. I do think that the 329 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: best option for them is divorce. I agree because I 330 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: don't think that wife is gonna wanna do the work. 331 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: I don't think what she's. 332 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 3: Done in five years he didn't even tell him. 333 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 2: I feel like she's not gonna want She's not gonna 334 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: be want to cut off from her family. So it's 335 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 2: the option is there. Will she take it? Highly unlikely? 336 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 3: I feel like divorce sue Yeah, Gino Flowers says, I 337 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 3: think what is bothering me most is that your wife 338 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 3: is still not getting it. She doesn't understand how vile 339 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 3: her family is. And if they did it once, they 340 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 3: could do it again. They took your money, your peace 341 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 3: of mind, your confidence. Even though she stopped it, she 342 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 3: never told you, leaving you to wonder why and who 343 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 3: and past family spats. It's not like this was a 344 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: little tiff and they apologized and you won't let it go. 345 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 3: I'd suggest therapy for you both, and I don't even 346 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 3: know how. At the very least, you'll learn how to 347 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 3: co parent together if you can't save the marriage. 348 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 349 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 3: I think that's why, regardless of what you do, therapy 350 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 3: is important because I forgot they have a son. Yeah, 351 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 3: so like therapy, Yes. 352 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely, therapy and counseling. 353 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 3: Maybe a therapist can get her to see how huge 354 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 3: this is, Opie says, I don't know. It's like my 355 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 3: wife's not getting where I'm coming from, or just doesn't 356 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 3: want to go there. Her family never even apologized. They're 357 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 3: making it out like I'm holding brudges. Bisdo says also 358 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 3: realized she didn't tell you because she wanted to. She 359 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 3: only told you because someone else threatened to tell you, 360 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 3: and she wanted to control exactly what was said. If 361 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 3: I were you, I'd want to speak to the other 362 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 3: person who knew the black sheep. It's such a huge 363 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 3: breach of trust. She aided her relatives in trying to 364 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 3: destroy your livelihood and self worth. I can't see any 365 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 3: reason why you'd want to remain married someone who clearly 366 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 3: doesn't value you or really love you. Anne has demonstrated 367 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 3: she loves and places her family above you. Madeline Ashton says, 368 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 3: is she going to cut off her family now? Op 369 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 3: says she hasn't said anything about that. She's been too 370 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 3: flustered with me asking for some space. No solutions have 371 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: been offered. My small self says, I couldn't imagine trying 372 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 3: to rebuild after that level of betrayal as anyone tried 373 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 3: to make amends, take ownership of their actions. She can 374 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 3: make excuses all she wants, but it doesn't sound like 375 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 3: she's taking accountability. I don't know if I would even 376 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 3: be open to continuing. I'd be having a heart to 377 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 3: heart with my lawyer to see what custody arrangements would 378 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 3: look like. Op says there's been no apology of any 379 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 3: kind what or acknowledging what they did. Yeah, the family 380 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 3: continues to say that Opie's just holding a grudge. 381 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: Okay, this is cooked, this is done for Okay. 382 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 2: No, Yeah, there's no sympathy or not sympathy, but there's 383 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: no accountability or regret or anything. Yeah. No, okay, I 384 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: rescind my previous. 385 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 3: That's the family. 386 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 2: But still it's like she's she's not apologized for her 387 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 2: whatever part she had. 388 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 3: I mean, she's just denying that she had a parton 389 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 3: in it, which like she did, she did, she kept 390 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 3: it from Ope, that's a part. They're making it out 391 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 3: like I'm depriving them from my son over a minor dispute. 392 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 3: And there is an update seven days later. Oh gosh, 393 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 3: thank you everyone who reached out after my last post 394 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 3: I twenty seven mail. Wasn't able to reply to everyone, 395 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 3: but your support was deeply appreciated. It solidified my wake 396 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 3: up call and helped me realize I wasn't overthinking this situation. 397 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 3: If anything, you were underthinking it. 398 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 2: Yeah. 399 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've been taking two lax my guy. 400 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. 401 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 3: I wanted to give you an update Earlier this week, 402 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 3: my wife thirty female, and I were finally able to 403 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 3: sit down and hash everything out. I'm glad I held 404 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 3: firm on needing space because even though this situation still 405 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 3: feels like a massive betrayal, I was in a much 406 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 3: better position to have a productive conversation my wife. I 407 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 3: was preparing to call it quits on her marriage, but 408 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 3: I told her we were at of crossroads and needed 409 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 3: to talk things through. 410 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, okay, you can't if you got a kid. 411 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 3: You've been together for years, but you better do everything 412 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 3: that Matt said or else, and then some and then some. 413 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, back rubs every night, out every night. Yeah, working 414 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: working at the cash rip. 415 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 3: I'm allowed to cry in your lap about your parents 416 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 3: bullying me. 417 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 2: A cyber bullying me every I get a remote every 418 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: night when we watch TV. 419 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, a steak and blows every Tuesday. Oh Sam's quote, 420 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: this comes right from Sam. 421 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 3: Well, I didn't need to hear it. 422 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: I'm not saying rejected. 423 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 2: Big brain play though here. So clearly the family wanted 424 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: to ruin Op's business so that wife would see, oh, 425 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 2: he's a failure, then leave him because there's no reason 426 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: to stay if he's like, got no money and can't 427 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 2: take care of their kid. Of course, just spite, pure 428 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: spite response. Just stay with her, just as just as 429 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: your own get out. 430 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 3: She apologized for what her family did and for her 431 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 3: role in covering it up. She admitted she never intended 432 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 3: to hurt me. She had convinced herself she was protecting 433 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 3: me from more pain, but she realizes now that she 434 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 3: was largely protecting herself. She was brutally honest about her motivations. 435 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 3: She was terrified at telling me the truth wouldn't just 436 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 3: end our wedding, but that I'd end our entire relationship. 437 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 3: I also just want to go back and say that Op, 438 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 3: he said that they didn't really treat him well until, 439 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,719 Speaker 3: uh like around their baby slash relationships. 440 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 2: So baby came, right. 441 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 3: It wasn't when did the baby come? 442 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: The baby came the wedding, Well, they just treat him 443 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: horribly and then they stopped trolling on. I don't know 444 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: when the baby came, but. 445 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 3: I'm just wondering if that was around the same time. 446 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 3: How old is the sun? 447 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: I guess when did the parents stop treating Ope horribly? 448 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 3: No, No, I know when they did. I'm just asking 449 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 3: how old the sun is because they they stopped treating 450 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 3: him horribly around the sun. But I'm just wondering if 451 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 3: those are around the same time. 452 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: In law stought treating horribly after someone was worn. When 453 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: was the sun born? Dinghis bought the sun and the 454 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: story was born two years ago. 455 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 3: Okay, so never mind. I was gonna say, oh, maybe 456 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 3: they stopped because she told them off, but no, mm separate, 457 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 3: so they didn't even stop treating him badly. 458 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: They stopped the targeted harassment of the business. Yeah, but 459 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 2: they still treated Op terribly. 460 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, which is kind of crazy to me because after 461 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,719 Speaker 3: she finds out that they've been harassing him online and 462 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 3: tells them to put a stop to it, she doesn't 463 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 3: stop the hurt like the in person harassment. That's crazy. 464 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 3: That goes on for three more years. 465 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 2: It's part of the ritual, the initiation wild gotta do 466 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 2: the time. 467 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 3: She'd already lost our relationship and friendships because of her 468 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 3: family's behavior, and she couldn't bear the thought of losing me. 469 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 3: Over the years since our wedding, she wanted to tell 470 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: me the truth multiple times, but kept talking herself out 471 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 3: of it. As time passed, the cover up grew bigger 472 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 3: and more complex, making confession feel impossible. The longer she waited, 473 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 3: the harder it became to find the words. I told her. 474 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 3: I didn't agree with her choices and wish she'd had 475 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 3: more faith than me and our relationship. I meant it. 476 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,959 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have just abandoned her. If she'd been honest 477 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 3: from the start, we could have faced this together instead 478 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 3: of carrying this burden alone while I remained in. 479 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 2: The dark carrying this burden, what is that verbiage? Because 480 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 2: it's not a burden you chose to actively not tell op. 481 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like the burden of the lie, but. 482 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: I think, ohp, he's giving her too much credity. 483 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 3: I agree, I agree. I feel like he's like, you 484 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 3: should have trusted me, Like as if she didn't actively 485 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 3: hide this horrible secret. Yeah, she was complicit in this 486 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: horrible secret. And again again, she didn't do anything to 487 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 3: stop them harassing you in person. So like I would 488 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 3: have been like, yeah, you have just found you didn't 489 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 3: know about this, but you knew that they were treating 490 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 3: me terribly in person and you did nothing. 491 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 2: Thing is is that according to the update this this 492 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: isn't the first time that Wifey's family has ruined a relationship. 493 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, yeah, yeah, and. 494 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 3: She can't stand up to them. She asked to where 495 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 3: we go from here? And I promised that no matter 496 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 3: what happened, there would be no more secrets between us. 497 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 3: I told her I wanted to work on her marriage, 498 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 3: but fundamental changes were necessary. We couldn't survive with her 499 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 3: toxic family's influence hanging over us, and I refuse to 500 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 3: expose our son to this manipulation and cruelty. When she 501 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 3: asked what I needed from her, I laid it out clearly. 502 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 3: I've never been one for ultimatums, and I don't really 503 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 3: consider this one. But I was adamant any path forward 504 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 3: for us would require radical boundaries with her family. I've 505 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 3: cut them. 506 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: Off, yeah, literally cut them off. 507 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 3: The boundaries that you never see them. 508 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 509 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 3: She was honest that the thought of such a dramatic 510 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 3: break from her family was terrifying, but ultimately said, if 511 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 3: it's between them and us, between them and our son, 512 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 3: then I choose us. Her agreement was huge for me 513 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 3: because I genuinely didn't know which way she'd go if 514 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 3: forced to choose. I never wanted to put her in 515 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 3: that position, but after everything her family did, I felt 516 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 3: there was no other option. What gave me real hope 517 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 3: that she was serious was what happened next. Without me asking. 518 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 3: She sent a text to their family group chat telling 519 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 3: them to stop blowing up my phone and stating that 520 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 3: the decision to cut off their access to her son 521 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 3: was joint and that she fully supported it. I didn't 522 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 3: expect that level of public support from her, and it 523 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 3: meant everything. Oh wow, take her so long to do that. 524 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 2: I wonder if she'd discussed this with them previously. It's 525 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: like Okay, I'm gonna do this, But now everything she 526 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 2: does is it has to be like, Okay, what's the 527 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: grand conspiracy here? What is she telling them? What else 528 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 2: is she in the group chat? 529 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: And also how did these other people have this kind 530 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: of hold and power over O people? What were they 531 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: saying and doing? 532 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 3: The family members? Yeah, they were they were messing with 533 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 3: his business. 534 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: I know, I know that, but like what were they 535 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: doing not over op sorry Opie's wife, just their family. 536 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 2: It's just a family thing. Yeah, okay, it was just 537 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 2: pressure from the family to well are they going. 538 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: To keep doing that? Is she gonna well? 539 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 3: I think this is that, this. 540 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 2: Is the ultimately, this is her being I know, but I. 541 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: Just don't think it's gonna stick. 542 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: I'm trying to say that's no, no, no, She's going to 543 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 2: crawl back to them. It might take six months, might 544 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: take three years, but she is eventually going to break 545 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 2: and go back to her family. 546 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 3: I hope not, but it does seem likely. Of course, 547 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 3: they didn't take it well. Now she's been labeled disrespectful 548 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 3: and ungrateful. They're claiming that the black sheep, eldest sister, 549 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 3: thirty five female and I are poisoning her against them. 550 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 3: One particularly telling message read what kind of man takes 551 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 3: a woman away from her family over a spat? This 552 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 3: isn't a spat, and I have nothing to prove about 553 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 3: my manhood. They orchestrated a systematic campaign designed to destroy 554 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 3: my livelihood and mental health. Their actions are genuinely chilling 555 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 3: when I think about it. These are the same people 556 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 3: who looked me in the eye with straight faces while 557 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 3: actively sabotaging my life behind the scenes. This is about 558 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 3: protecting my family period. My wife has gone low contact 559 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 3: with them. 560 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 2: Which is a major set no contact. 561 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 3: I literally think she needs to go no contact. I 562 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 3: don't think low contact is enough. 563 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 2: Low contact's just gonna open up the floodgates even more. 564 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 3: Her family operates with this twisted mindset that romantic partners 565 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 3: and friends are temporary while family is permanent and deserves 566 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 3: absolute loyalty regardless of their behavior. 567 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 2: That but, but the mom and dad are married, and 568 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: is this just something unless they are a little targarian 569 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 2: going on in there? 570 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well that's what I was gonna say, you know. 571 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 2: I mean, lanisters send their regards as well. 572 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 3: They can't seem to grasp that my wife our son 573 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 3: and I are the core family now their extended family, 574 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 3: and their involvement with our son is a privilege, not 575 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 3: a right. A privilege they've thoroughly mistreated. I still don't 576 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 3: fully understand their exact issue with me. They only tolerated 577 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 3: my presence because of our son. When I first met them, 578 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 3: one of my wife's siblings, twenty eight female, bluntly said 579 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 3: they thought my wife was settling for me because of 580 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 3: age and that she could do better. They're an incredibly 581 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 3: insular group, where if one member rejects you, you're permanently 582 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 3: shut up by the rest. Once their minds were made 583 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 3: up about me, nothing I did mattered. I've long since 584 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 3: stopped trying to decode the reasoning. It's a rabbit hole 585 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 3: that leads nowhere productive. We're planning to relocate to create 586 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 3: healthier distance, cement our boundaries, and get a fresh start. 587 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 3: We're also starting therapy soon, which we've been discussing for 588 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 3: a while now. Moving away will be beneficial for us. Interestingly, 589 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 3: it was actually my eldest sister in law, the family 590 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 3: black Sheep, who first suggested this during our wedding planning. 591 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 3: She knew five years ago that you needed to get away. 592 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 3: She encouraged my wife to create our own space away 593 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 3: from the family's suffocating influence. I know my wife is 594 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 3: so much more than her family's dysfunction. I've witnessed it firsthand. 595 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 3: She absolutely shines when she's away from their toxic influence. 596 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 3: That's what I meant in my original post when I 597 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 3: said she was the most loving, unselfish, and decent person 598 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 3: I'd ever met. Her family's manipulation doesn't define who she 599 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 3: really is. If I'm being completely honest, I don't know 600 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 3: how things will ultimately turn out. I'm still hurt, still 601 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 3: processing feelings of betrayal, and my wife is facing her 602 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 3: own challenges with establishing low contact with her family. But 603 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 3: I want to be hopeful. I don't want to close 604 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 3: the door on us. There is a little bit left 605 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 3: to this story. Do you have any final thoughts? 606 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: See u lt get away from that family tree. 607 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like the just the fact that it's 608 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 3: anyone who disagrees with them just becomes the black sheep. 609 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 610 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 3: I really think that any contact at all with this 611 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 3: family is too much. 612 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, she should have demanded, like, when you're gonna cut 613 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 2: off contact, it's no contact, not low contact. Yeah, because 614 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 2: she's struggling. Now, Yeah, she's behind Opie's back unless he's 615 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 2: like actively watching her phone. Twenty four to seven. She's 616 00:28:58,920 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: absolutely texting them. 617 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 3: Well, they're probably they're absolutely texting her. 618 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: If she's responding, she might just be deleting her responses 619 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 2: m M and stuff just to hide it. But she's 620 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: clearly not able to get away from their influence as 621 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: long as they have. Yeah, even the smallest inlet into 622 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 2: her life. The distance is a good start, but if 623 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 2: they can still reach you through a family group chatter, texting, 624 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 2: you're not out of the woods. 625 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 3: It's like when Cora has that like mercury in her 626 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 3: and uh huh, and then for like three years she's like, 627 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 3: why am I feelings? I'm not healing, I'm not healing, 628 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 3: And then finally she gets like she gets all of 629 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,719 Speaker 3: it out of her. You need to get all of 630 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 3: that mercury. 631 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: Need detox, detox. 632 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: But there is a little bit left. I'm hoping we 633 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 3: can heal together, build something stronger from this painful foundation 634 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 3: of truth, and create the kind of family environment for 635 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 3: our son that neither of us had growing up. Thank 636 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 3: you again to everyone for the overwhelming support after years 637 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 3: of feeling isolated by my in law's hostility. Discovering that 638 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 3: most people find their behavior as unaccepted doable as I do, 639 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 3: means more than you know. Your perspectives helped me trust 640 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 3: my instincts and gave me courage to demand the changes 641 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 3: our marriage needed. We have a long road ahead, but 642 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 3: for the first time in years, I feel like we're 643 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 3: walking it together, instead of her walking alongside her family 644 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 3: while I struggle to keep up. And Cursed Cactus says 645 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 3: her family crossed an unforgivable line. Cut them out of 646 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 3: your life completely. You must forge your own path and 647 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 3: toxic people have no place in it. Wish you the 648 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 3: best of luck, and another comment says this family is 649 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 3: acting like a cult. I mean it, their whole attitude 650 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 3: of family over everything, keeping outsiders away, punishing members for 651 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,479 Speaker 3: daring to step out of line, and banishing them from 652 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 3: the family. Your wife had to go through years of brainwashing. 653 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 3: I would believe her when she says she was afraid 654 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 3: to go against her family. Not to make any excuses 655 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 3: for her because not telling you the truth was wrong, 656 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 3: but that she's now willing to set boundaries with her. 657 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 2: Family is huge. 658 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 3: She has years and year years of therapy ahead of 659 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 3: her to fix what these people broke. And I'm wishing 660 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 3: both of you is the best of luck. And that 661 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 3: is the end of that story. 662 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: Man, oh man, this woman, there's so much she has 663 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: to do. I don't know if she's gonna have the 664 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: willpower to do it, because like the sister blackmailed her 665 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: to talk to the husband, and now she's like doing 666 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: this marriage because it's what the husband wants. I don't 667 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: even I have no glimpse of what this woman actually wants. 668 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, my wonder and worry is like, what were they 669 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 2: gonna do with this poor child? 670 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 671 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,959 Speaker 2: How far down were they going to try to brainwash 672 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 2: this kid against their dad? 673 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, absolutely, anytime the kid came over. Mm hmm 674 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 3: would have been brainwashed. Your dad sucks your dad's week, 675 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 3: Your dad's not a man. 676 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: Brainwash? What kind of brainwashing would they do? I just 677 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: said it, I know. But like, what cartoons are they 678 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: showing him? Like today, we're gonna show you a cartoon about. 679 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 2: It's like, I'll give you a cookie if you call 680 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 2: your dad an idiot. 681 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna watch how parents are the worst things ever, 682 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: especially dads. 683 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 3: But I'm hoping. I'm hoping it works out. I'm hoping 684 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 3: that she follows through with all of that good luck. 685 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 2: Op gave her so much grace and it's literally on 686 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 2: her now. 687 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's on her. 688 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 2: It's on her to break contact, repair the damage, make 689 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 2: sure the therapy's working. Like Op already made a huge 690 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 2: gesture of goodwill and faith by saying, Okay, we'll work 691 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 2: through it together. 692 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 3: A lot more than she deserves. But it's very kind 693 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 3: and like huge, huge deal that he gave that second chance. 694 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 2: Yeap. Otherwise, divorce is the right course. 695 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 3: That's the end of that story. We've got another one 696 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 3: coming right up. 697 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 2: Hey, it's Sam. We'll get back to the stories. But 698 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors. 699 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: I want my sister in law out of my house. 700 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 2: She's not paying the rent. 701 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: I twenty five female, have been with my boyfriend twenty 702 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: seven Mal for three years. He moved in with me 703 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: last year. Everything was going great until last Christmas when 704 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: his parents it's announced they were selling the family home 705 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: and downsizing. But they wanted to go on one of 706 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: those six month long cruises around the world. Fine, whatever, 707 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: they can do, whatever they want. By the way, this 708 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: comes from Dramatic Sandwich seventeen and if you want to 709 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: see your own stories, go to the ard slash Okay 710 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: story t I'm suburate, so Op says, except they have 711 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: a younger daughter, Emma, who's eighteen, completely unbeknoast to me. 712 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: My boyfriend had agreed to let Emma live with us 713 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: until she moved away to university. This led to a 714 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,239 Speaker 1: lot of fies between me and my boyfriend because I 715 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: didn't want Emma living with us. By all this, she 716 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,719 Speaker 1: moved in after the household in February. It has been 717 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: heck number one. I would like to know why you're 718 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: not about this. I mean, I get some siblings can't. 719 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 2: Some people just want to go. 720 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 1: You know, Kean, how is it living with your sibling 721 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: that's Dakota. No, I'm asking you. 722 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 4: I love her, but I could live without her. 723 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: Okay, do you live with any siblings? 724 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 2: Oh? My siblings are gone? Like it was all right. 725 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: It'd be like, what do you mean gone? 726 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 2: Like my brother moved out and then my sister had 727 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 2: her kid and then she moved out. 728 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: Oh got it? 729 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 4: I thought gone gone? 730 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 2: Oh oh no, just the. 731 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: Way you said that. 732 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, not that morbid. 733 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,959 Speaker 1: No, I would like to know a little context between 734 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 1: the relationship. I don't. Yeah, She's like, no, I can't 735 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 1: do it. 736 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 2: Some people just like their their private space, you know. Sure, Yeah, 737 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 2: I mean it's it's not Ope's siblings, so they don't 738 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 2: have that kind of bond or that familiarity. 739 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 740 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: And the age gap is Emma's eighteen and Op's like 741 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:31,919 Speaker 1: twenty nine. I think twenty seven. 742 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 4: She's twenty seven, twenty seven, boyfriend's twenty seven. 743 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 2: That's a ten year gap. 744 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: Ye. 745 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 2: That's like you're in very different stages of your life. 746 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: For starters, or house might have three bedrooms, but only 747 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: one was used as a bedroom, one is my home office, 748 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: and the other was a gym for me and my boyfriend. 749 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: Emma turned the gym into her room. I don't like 750 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: the way she's put them, and now a lot of 751 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: our equipment is in storage. I hate having Emma here 752 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: as she's a total brat and doesn't contribute to anything 753 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: to the house. Okay, there were. 754 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 2: She ain't paying the mortgage. 755 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: The second Imma turned eighteen, she was out with friends, 756 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: coming back wasted at three am and waking up my 757 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: dogs as she clattered into the house. Normally with an 758 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 1: equally wasted friend. For the first month of her living 759 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: with us, she would steal my stuff constantly, skincare, hair care, perfume, clothes, anything. 760 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: I now have a lockuple box for tuler trees so 761 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: she can't get to them. 762 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 2: She'll find a way. If she wants those toilet trees, 763 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 2: she will absolutely break that box. 764 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: She has lost six different sets of house keys since 765 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: moving in, and I've had to have the lot changed 766 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: twice due to various issues. She refuses to do anything 767 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 1: I ask her to do because she's busy. She doesn't 768 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: have a job, so how is she busy. She also 769 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 1: refuses to eat anything I cook and will demand we 770 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: order takeout instead. I have asked her repeatedly for mill ideas, 771 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 1: and even if I make that exact meal, she refuses 772 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: to eat it, claiming it tastes stry. Uh there's something 773 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: missing here, do you see it? 774 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 2: I'm just shocked at like everything that this is going, Like, oh, 775 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 2: OPI doesn't want to live with sister, was not consultant, 776 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 2: and sisters going out getting trashed and wasted stealing stuff 777 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 2: like Okay, I think the thing that's missing is where 778 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 2: is Opie's husband and the older brother in all. 779 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 1: Of this yeah, or OPI's boyfriend, Yeah. 780 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 2: Boyfriend, Yeah, where is where is said boyfriend? And all 781 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 2: of this controlling said sister. 782 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: His boyfriend's like, Oh, your sister can move in? 783 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 2: Why not? 784 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: It's weird, Kean, do you see what's missing here? 785 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 4: It's very odd because the sister is just all about 786 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 4: her her her. 787 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: Well, she's a total brat. That's always been the case. 788 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 4: So there's what's missing is communication. 789 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: Thank you, there, it is communication. There is not once 790 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: have I ever seen we talked I she probably the 791 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: only thing she's probably ever done was throw mill idea 792 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: ideas around her, like, hey, if you don't like warm cook, 793 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: can you can tell me what you want to eat 794 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: and I'll make it for you. That's probably the only 795 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: thing she's done. 796 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 2: Also, losing six house keys, Yeah, that's a safety issue 797 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 2: right there. Like if someone knows that you live there 798 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 2: and they want to get in the house and they 799 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,479 Speaker 2: just steal a key from sister, you're in baby, change 800 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 2: them locks, yikes. 801 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: And they have they changed them twa. 802 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 2: Six six keys, two locks. That's not safe. 803 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,439 Speaker 4: That's literally one too many. 804 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: Oh you lost your keys? You can't come back in? 805 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 806 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: Til you find them. The breaking point came last weekend 807 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 1: when my boyfriend, the dogs, and I went away for 808 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: the weekend. I was reluctant to leave Emma in the 809 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: house by herself, but my boyfriend said it would be 810 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: a great way for her to gain some independence before 811 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: going back to university. 812 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 4: You say the joke, just don't let the house burn down, 813 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 4: and that's literally She's gonna take that and be like 814 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 4: it's a challenge. Yeah, I didn't burn down the house. 815 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 2: I know. I didn't burn down the house. The other 816 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 2: person did. It wasn't me. 817 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, big mistake. We came back on Sunday evening to 818 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: a trash house and a hungover Emma's sleep in her room. 819 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,720 Speaker 1: I had to get a professional cleaner in on Monday 820 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 1: to tackle the worst of the mess. After I spent 821 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: half the night cleaning, I'm done. I want her out 822 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 1: of the house. I thought I could deal with this 823 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 1: until she moved away in September, but I can't, especially 824 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: now that she's talking about putting her place on hold 825 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: for a year so she can go traveling and use 826 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: our house as a base. Oh no, you can't do 827 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: what the parents are doing. Come on, also, Amy, Dean 828 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: is boyfriend stupid party. Yeah, I would like to talk 829 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: to the boyfriend here. Why why is he super nice 830 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,919 Speaker 1: guy and not actually seeing what's going on. 831 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 4: I would be very mad at her, but at the 832 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 4: end of the day, boyfriend was like, Nah, like this 833 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 4: will be fine, right. I would just turn to him 834 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 4: and be like, you're cleaning this up. 835 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 2: No, boyfriend has confrontation and boundary issues. Ah, boyfriend just 836 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 2: doesn't want to have a fight about it, I guess, 837 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 2: and doesn't want to be the bad guy. 838 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 4: No. 839 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: I want her gone out and as soon as possible. True, 840 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 1: she has nowhere else to go as her parents aren't 841 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 1: back from their cruise until the end of August. But 842 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: I don't care. I want her gone. I've talked to 843 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 1: my boyfriend out this and he won't budge because Emma 844 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: is family and he can't punt her out. So would 845 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: it be the a hole if I punt her out? Okay, 846 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 1: I think I'm a little unclear here. Emma is the 847 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: boyfriend's sister or op's sister. You can you can go 848 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: to dinga spot and hit the. 849 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 2: Voice it's the boyfriend's sister. 850 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, yeah, yeah, that's why. Okay, yeah, so this 851 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: is boyfriend's issue. 852 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 2: It'd be very weird if it was ops sister. 853 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: I don't know why I thought that. 854 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,879 Speaker 2: I mean, if it was, then there's a whole nother 855 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 2: issue that we have to investigate there. Yeah, but that 856 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 2: is we don't have that right now. 857 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: That's weird. So if this girl, your boyfriend's sister's causing 858 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,240 Speaker 1: all this trouble, so that must mean that the boyfriend 859 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: gets to clean up after all this and gets to 860 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: clean up the mess. 861 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, You're sister supposed to be her mess, your problem. 862 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 2: I mean, do we really think the boyfriends are doing 863 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 2: anything except sitting around all day? 864 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: Dude? In this situation, I'm bringing. 865 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 2: Up the fact that Op had to pay to get 866 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 2: the place cleaned, and sister's not paying rent, not helping 867 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 2: for food, not contributing towards literally doing nothing, not even 868 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 2: in school yet. She's not even in school yet, She 869 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 2: just turned eighteen, waiting to leave for school, and she's 870 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 2: doing this. 871 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: This is crazy, dude. 872 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 2: This is worse than like a lot of the people 873 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,240 Speaker 2: I knew who like partied every gone and did France, 874 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 2: Like I partied a bit in college, but like we 875 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 2: always talked about it we always cleaned up after it. 876 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 2: We took care of it ourselves. 877 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 1: Like, well, you're a pretty responsible guy. 878 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 2: Yeah that's true. 879 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: But like, and your parents are raised you. 880 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if if this is how. 881 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,280 Speaker 1: These parents said, oh we're going to cruises, other house, 882 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: good luck finding somewhere to lift. 883 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 2: If this is how Sis is behaving before she's even 884 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 2: in college, oh this is this is a bad sign. Yeah. 885 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 4: Firstly, this is what happened to me. If this is 886 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 4: what you know with my parents, if they saw this, 887 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 4: they wouldn't clean it up. You're like, you're cleaning this up. 888 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 4: Yeah that's that, or you're or you're out. But in 889 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 4: this case, clean this up and then get out. 890 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 1: Forgot to mention that it's my house. I own it 891 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,359 Speaker 1: outright with no mortgage, and my boyfriend is not on 892 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 1: any official documents gotch. Only thing in his name is 893 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,919 Speaker 1: our sky TV payments. Everything else is in my name 894 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: as I live here before he moved in. He does 895 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,240 Speaker 1: pay half towards bills, but he just sends the money 896 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: to me each month. I'm going to try and talk 897 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 1: to Emma and my boyfriend's parents. I sent them a 898 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: text message asking them to call me as soon as possible. 899 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm also reaching out to Emma and my boyfriend's older 900 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 1: sister to see if she will take Emma in for 901 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,359 Speaker 1: a while. I doubt she will, as they don't get 902 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: along and she has a two year old, but it's 903 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: worth shot. 904 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 2: Those parents are not picking up throwing a cruise. They 905 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 2: pieced out they don't want to deal with sister anymore. 906 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 2: That's your problem now. Well she's eighteen, she can Yeah, 907 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 2: she's her own problem now. And then brother decided, oh no, 908 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 2: she's our problem now at it too. 909 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: I'm such a gosh darn idiot. Firstly, thanks to all 910 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: the comments, I've realized that my boyfriend is not the 911 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: person I want to spend the rest of my life with. 912 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 2: WHOA okay? 913 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: Oh Secondly, I managed to have a video call with 914 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: my boyfriend parents and wow, just wow. First of all, 915 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 1: they have been sending Emma seven hundred pounds a month 916 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: to cover her living with us, and I haven't seen 917 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:10,399 Speaker 1: a penny of it. 918 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 2: So she was supposed to be paying rent at least 919 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 2: a little bit. That's where the alcohol money's coming from. 920 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: Their mom mentioned that I could take the cleaner fee 921 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 1: out of Emma's money, and I asked what money she 922 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: meant because Emma doesn't have a job. She left and said, oh, 923 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: this is seven hundred pounds we sent Emma each month 924 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: to cover all her expenses while she lives with you. 925 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 1: They've been sending Emma money and she was supposed to 926 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: be giving this money to us to cover everything. Either 927 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 1: Emma has been keeping it or she's given it to 928 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: my boyfriend and he has a said a word. How 929 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: do you think the boyfriend knows about this? Unless he does, 930 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 1: Oh gosh. 931 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 2: Maybe he's he Probably he might. No, maybe I don't 932 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 2: think he does. But if he does, he's he sees 933 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 2: sister as like a meal ticket and he's taking the money. 934 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 2: Or maybe they're splitting it. 935 00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, they. 936 00:42:59,040 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 2: Might be splitting the money. 937 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: Surprisingly, her parents are furious that I haven't seen any 938 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,879 Speaker 1: of this money, and they are sending me a bank 939 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: transfer of forty two hundred pounds to cover the money 940 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: Emma should have been giving us since February. 941 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 4: Good on the parents. 942 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 2: How much is that in dollars? 943 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 4: I can look it up. 944 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say six thousand. I don't know what euros, sorry, 945 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 1: I was thinking of euros to pounds. Probably I would 946 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:22,280 Speaker 1: say six thousand. 947 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 4: That's around five thousand, okay, okay, about. 948 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 1: Six thousand, okay, roughly they are sending it to my 949 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 1: personal account, then I can do with it what I 950 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 1: see fit. I was brutally honest on the call and 951 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 1: said that I can't have Emma staying here with us 952 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,359 Speaker 1: any longer. Yes, she might leave in September, but what 953 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,839 Speaker 1: if she doesn't get the results she needs for university 954 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 1: and it has to defer, or if she takes a 955 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 1: gap year. I'm not putting up with this for another year. 956 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 1: Their mom is going to talk to her sister see 957 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 1: if Emma can stay there until they get back at 958 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: the end of August. For those wondering, yes, they have 959 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 1: a house all lined up for when they return, and 960 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: they will not be living with us when they get back. 961 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to have a serious talk with my boyfriend 962 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 1: this evening, and now I'm rethinking our whole relationship. If 963 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 1: he tries to fight over Emma staying, then it's over. 964 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 1: A lot of the comments in this post have made 965 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 1: me realize that I have been a doormat to this 966 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 1: man since Emma moved in. Also that I should have 967 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: been charging him rent, and I'm not standing for it anymore, 968 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 1: so wish me luck. People are read it, wish me luck, 969 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: and we have some comments. Okay, so about the house, 970 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 1: it's my house. I inherited it from my grandparents when 971 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: they passed away a few years ago, so it's mine outright. 972 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 1: My boyfriend contributes half towards the bill and stuff, but 973 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 1: I haven't got around to putting him on any official 974 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 1: documents yet. I doubt i'll bother now. I would not 975 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 1: put anyone on official documents until we got a ring involved. 976 00:44:54,760 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 2: Even then, if you're married, it's Op's house though, from 977 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 2: the grandparents. Putting putting him on the title or any 978 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,879 Speaker 2: deeds to the property complicates it because then, like he 979 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 2: didn't help buy the house, if you break up, then 980 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 2: he is entitled to half of that house, which he 981 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,799 Speaker 2: did nothing for in this instant. If you're buying the 982 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 2: house too, I'm. 983 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: Just saying if they ever were talking. 984 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 2: About But if they are buying the house together, fine 985 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 2: put your name on it. But if even if they 986 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 2: get married, if it's Op's house that they got from family, 987 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 2: don't put his name on it. Just just make it, 988 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 2: don't that's gonna set you up for trouble. Later mm hmm, 989 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 2: Like even if it was me and like someone else 990 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 2: and I was marrying someone else, they had a house, like, 991 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 2: it's not my house, it's your house. God, I'm living there, 992 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 2: we're married, but this is yours. Yeah, if you want 993 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 2: to put me in the will eventually, fine, but I'm 994 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 2: not pressuring you to put me on your title for 995 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 2: this house because I did nothing to earn it. 996 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 1: He was furious when he came home last weekend, but 997 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 1: also chalked it up to Emma just being a teenager 998 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: and having fun. I'm swiftly realizing he's not the person 999 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 1: I want to be spending the rest of my life with. 1000 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,400 Speaker 1: Commenter info, who pays for all her stuff? The locks, 1001 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: the cleaner is, the takeouts? Why do you clean up 1002 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: whole night? And what did your boyfriend and the culprit do? 1003 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 1: Were there any other consequences for her? What does your 1004 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 1: boyfriend say about the situation? Opie says, my boyfriend paid 1005 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: for the locks to be changed, as I refused, I 1006 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 1: paid for the cleaner, and I assume my boyfriend pays 1007 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: for her food as I don't. Commenter, I'm laughing only 1008 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,839 Speaker 1: because I don't understand how you dealt with this for 1009 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 1: so long. Not the a hill. Respectfully, you can't seriously 1010 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: want to be living with someone that's controlling what you 1011 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 1: want done in your home. What you say goes into discussion. 1012 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 1: Opie says, Honestly, I don't know how I haven't gone 1013 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: crazy yet. I think I assumed it would get better 1014 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 1: since she's be gone by September. Also didn't think she'd 1015 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 1: be this much of a brat. And to a downvoted commenter, 1016 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 1: Opie says, at the same time, put yourself in Emma's place. 1017 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,839 Speaker 1: Her parents took off for six months and left her. 1018 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: She's been abandoned by her own parents, apparently a little 1019 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,760 Speaker 1: before she turned eighteen. That sucks, and she's likely acting 1020 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: out due to that. There is nothing like feeling unwanted 1021 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,760 Speaker 1: by your own parents. The parents don't seem to want Emma, 1022 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 1: and she knows that. That's why she's talking about staying 1023 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 1: with you for the next year. I'd feel sympathy for her, 1024 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: but they have spoiled her for years. Believe me, they 1025 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,800 Speaker 1: have never made that girl feel unwanted. And another commenter 1026 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 1: says both can go, and why didn't he clean up 1027 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,800 Speaker 1: himself and have him pay for the professional cleaning services 1028 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: smells of Ai, not the a hole. Obi says he 1029 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 1: was talking to Emma and watching the dogs while I 1030 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 1: was cleaning. He apparently asked Hima to apologize to me, 1031 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,280 Speaker 1: but it fell on deaf ears as I still haven't 1032 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 1: had an apology for nearly over a week. I pay 1033 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 1: for the cleaner. He paid for the locks to be changed. 1034 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 2: He should still pay for the cleaner. Yeah, yeah, it's 1035 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,800 Speaker 2: your sister crazy again. 1036 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 4: But just back to what I said with my parents, 1037 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 4: if I didn't clean it up, they would just get 1038 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 4: the trash and put in my room. I'm not kidding. 1039 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 1: I had a friend. Anytime a roommate would leave dishes 1040 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 1: in the sink, he would get all the dishes and 1041 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: put him on his bed. 1042 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:15,919 Speaker 4: I used to death. 1043 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,320 Speaker 1: He said he has to do with this before he 1044 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 1: goes to sleep. 1045 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 4: I did that in college with one of my roommates. 1046 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 4: I was like, all right, I'm not washing these. I 1047 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 4: put him in front of his room. 1048 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 2: There was a one time when I first moved in 1049 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 2: my apartment, there was a bowl I had. I was 1050 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 2: gone for a little bit because I was doing camp stuff. 1051 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 2: But there's a bowl that was in the sink, a 1052 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 2: blue bowl. That was not cleaned. I came back weeks 1053 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 2: later that bowl was still there in the same spot. 1054 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 4: Ooh, with mold on it. 1055 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 2: Probably no, thankfully not. But I dumped it out and 1056 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 2: I just the worst smell of my life, just waffed 1057 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 2: it up, and it's like, no one's gonna clean this. 1058 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 2: Good God, Okay, I'm going to clean it. And every 1059 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 2: second of it was pure torture for my nostrils. 1060 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 1: Yeah loud, your mom did this to you? 1061 00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,320 Speaker 2: I feel like for for cis though. It's like you're 1062 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 2: in your you were a guest. Did their parents not 1063 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 2: teach you how to be respectful? Like, oh, you have 1064 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:05,360 Speaker 2: nowhere else to go? 1065 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: Gosh? 1066 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,759 Speaker 2: No, Like, do you not realize that you gotta be 1067 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,440 Speaker 2: on your best behapvior because people can kick you out. 1068 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:11,840 Speaker 2: You don't live there, you're a guest. 1069 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 1: There's a So there's a little comment about the party. 1070 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 1: So how much of a mess did she make? It 1071 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 1: sounds like she had a bunch of people over without 1072 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 1: telling you guys about it. It also wouldn't surprise me 1073 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 1: if the missing keys go to her friends. Since she 1074 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,759 Speaker 1: feels like brothers things are her things. Opie says she 1075 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 1: had some of her old school friends over and friends 1076 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 1: from her college course. I'm guestling roughly thirty to thirty 1077 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,319 Speaker 1: five teenagers. The mess was a lot. My kitchen and 1078 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: living room were full of empty bottles, cans and snacks. 1079 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 1: All the rugs downstairs had to be clean, staircase carpet 1080 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 1: had to be clean, and both bathrooms. Luckily, there was 1081 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,840 Speaker 1: no permanent day image underage drinking. We're in the UK, 1082 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 1: so the legal drinking age is eighteen. Dog's okay. The 1083 00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 1: dogs were with us. I never go away without them. 1084 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,359 Speaker 1: We have an update. Can we get a poll real quick? Uh? 1085 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 1: Does Opie break up or stay with the boyfriend? 1086 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:07,240 Speaker 2: Breakup? 1087 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:08,480 Speaker 1: She can definitely gonna break up. 1088 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 2: I say breakup. She should if she doesn't, because he's enabling, 1089 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 2: he has no spine, he does not care. Oh he's well. 1090 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 2: Imagine that man trying to parent. Oh gosh, imagine that 1091 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 2: man trying to parent. Oh oh those kids are gonna 1092 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 2: run rough shot over over that he's playing good cop. 1093 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 2: He's forcing OPI to play bad cop. That never works. 1094 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,759 Speaker 2: There's no united front between them. The man's cooked. Get 1095 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,760 Speaker 2: rid of them. Yeah, this man is. This man is trash. 1096 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,840 Speaker 2: I agree, should have been thrown out with all this 1097 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 2: stuff in the party? 1098 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think they're going to break up? 1099 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,879 Speaker 4: As long as he keeps doing the same pattern of 1100 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 4: letting the sister take control of him, he's not doing 1101 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 4: anything about the problem. 1102 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1103 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 4: I've seen no reason why not to true. 1104 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,680 Speaker 1: And we have one hundred fourteen fifteen vote sixteen votes 1105 00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 1: of breakups, counting and counting. Keep voting, guys. 1106 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 2: On og host. 1107 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,279 Speaker 1: We don't get back to the stories, but a quick 1108 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 1: three minute break of ads from our sponsors. Next day, 1109 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,240 Speaker 1: I sat down with both my boyfriend for this update 1110 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,319 Speaker 1: we're calling him Tom and Emma last night and laid 1111 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 1: down the law. I said that Emma needed to go 1112 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 1: and I couldn't put up with her attitude and her 1113 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 1: disrespect any longer. For those wondering if Tom knew about 1114 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,400 Speaker 1: the money, he did. 1115 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 2: They were splitting. That's my prediction. They were splitting the cash. 1116 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. He wasn't keeping it, but he knew 1117 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,880 Speaker 1: about it. He thought it would be a great chance 1118 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 1: for Emma to learn about budgeting and responsibilities. Doesn't she 1119 00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:35,959 Speaker 1: have a great role model to look after? 1120 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 2: Excuse me, sir, but are you stupid? 1121 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,760 Speaker 1: I said that the evidence has proved that she hasn't 1122 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 1: learned crap. And if you give an eighteen year old 1123 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: seven hundred pounds a month that she hasn't worked for it, 1124 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,439 Speaker 1: she's going to go nuts with it. If Tom thought 1125 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 1: that that would teach her any kind of responsibility, then 1126 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 1: he's dumber than I was for putting with either one 1127 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 1: of them. Any last prediction before he finish this. 1128 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 2: I think I think brother flips out trust to call 1129 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 2: on the bluff and then she breaks it off. 1130 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,719 Speaker 4: Okay, I think Opie just breaks up, breaks up with him. 1131 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 4: There's no like if this is what my boyfriend said, 1132 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,440 Speaker 4: I'd be like, you are so dumb. I'm done with you. 1133 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 4: I'm done. 1134 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like Tom and sister are gonna find 1135 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 1: an apartment together. 1136 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1137 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 4: I think Opie's gonna have a crash out to be 1138 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 4: like this is my house. 1139 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,960 Speaker 1: Get out, Yeah, like literally get out, get out right now, please, 1140 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 1: right now? Get out. Emma tried to defend herself because 1141 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 1: saying that she thought living with me would be a 1142 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 1: chance to bond and how I could become another sister 1143 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,560 Speaker 1: for her. Here is it going down? I fired back 1144 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 1: with if this is how she treats her sibling, then 1145 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 1: it's no wonder that her actual sister doesn't even like her. 1146 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,879 Speaker 1: Oh that's a burn, mean but fair. As far as 1147 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 1: my relationship goes, I think I'm done. I've told Tom 1148 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 1: that it needs some space and to seriously think about 1149 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,800 Speaker 1: this relationship as this whole ordeal has shaken me. Emma 1150 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,399 Speaker 1: is going to stay with her aunt and Tom too. 1151 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,880 Speaker 1: Darn is driving over tomorrow to get Emma in her stuff. 1152 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,759 Speaker 1: Tom is going with them and staying there for a 1153 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,400 Speaker 1: week or so. When he's back, we'll have a proper 1154 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,480 Speaker 1: sit down and talk through everything. My boy key on 1155 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,759 Speaker 1: did they talk through everything? Could we see? 1156 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 4: I'm gonna check. 1157 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,439 Speaker 1: I think that they broke up. 1158 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 2: I hope they broke up me too, dude. 1159 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,480 Speaker 1: Imagine having seven, like I would say, about eight hundred 1160 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 1: bucks a month, Imagine having eight fifty, eight hundred and 1161 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 1: fifty dollars a month in eighteen. 1162 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 2: Oh if that was like me when we had pandemic, 1163 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 2: I was getting because I got laid off because you 1164 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 2: don't need an events reporter at a newspaper if there's 1165 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 2: no events to go to. So I got laid off. 1166 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 2: And then when my stimulus check, you out what I 1167 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,160 Speaker 2: did with it? What stacks of comic books got a 1168 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,719 Speaker 2: boy although that did help me get my current job 1169 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 2: because I was reading a lot of DC and so 1170 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,320 Speaker 2: I knew DC. So oh actually it got me hired 1171 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 2: at my current job because I was doing social media 1172 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:56,320 Speaker 2: for DC comics. 1173 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, I got a small update in thee oh 1174 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,279 Speaker 4: sorry tiny wo Okay. 1175 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,920 Speaker 1: So hope, he says, Hi everyone, I meant to post 1176 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 1: this on Monday, but I've been busy, so here it 1177 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 1: is now. And then my boyfriend Tom for this update. 1178 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 1: Both left last week and went to stay with her aunt. 1179 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,360 Speaker 1: Emma's staying there until her parents are back. Tom was 1180 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 1: staying there for a week to give me space. Tom 1181 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,319 Speaker 1: came around Saturday evening so we could talk about a 1182 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:25,960 Speaker 1: relationship and everything. Long story short, I broke up with him. 1183 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,360 Speaker 1: Let's go. Reading all the comments have made me realize 1184 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 1: that I'd been walked all over by him and his 1185 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 1: sister for far too long. Enough was enough. He's been 1186 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 1: back and forth over the last few days to get 1187 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 1: his stuff, and I think he's staying at a friend's 1188 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,400 Speaker 1: house while he looks for a place to rent. Obviously, 1189 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,520 Speaker 1: I'm sad about the breakup because I did think i'd 1190 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 1: spend the rest of my life with Tom. But this 1191 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,160 Speaker 1: whole situation has made me realize that I need to 1192 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,360 Speaker 1: be selfish and put myself first for once in my life. 1193 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,880 Speaker 1: That's not selfish. You're totally fine, Okay, self care is 1194 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:03,840 Speaker 1: care exactly. As for Emma, she's on a strict curfew 1195 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 1: and money will be sent to her aunt to cover 1196 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,120 Speaker 1: for her expenses. Her aunt has said she's on a 1197 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,920 Speaker 1: three strike policy. Let's to be honest, I don't care anymore. 1198 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:18,399 Speaker 1: Emma's not my responsibility and never should have actually been one. 1199 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,799 Speaker 1: The money Tom and his parents sent me to has 1200 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,280 Speaker 1: been used in two parts, covering all the expenses Emma 1201 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 1: racked up like cleaning bill, etc. And a very nice 1202 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 1: spa trip for me. Some friends are coming with me 1203 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,880 Speaker 1: and we all can't wait. My parents are going to 1204 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 1: look over the dogs for us. I booked myself a 1205 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,520 Speaker 1: full body massage and a Champagne afternoon tea. So yeah, 1206 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,240 Speaker 1: that's my update. I'm single and have my house back. Honestly, 1207 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,520 Speaker 1: I couldn't be happier despite the breakup. Thanks for everyone 1208 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 1: who left comments and helped me find my backbone. Honestly, 1209 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:53,799 Speaker 1: this is a happy end day. This is the best 1210 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:54,839 Speaker 1: update you could have got. 1211 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:55,800 Speaker 4: Girl. Good for you. 1212 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,319 Speaker 1: You got your house back, you got your gym home back, 1213 00:55:58,360 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 1: you got your office space. 1214 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 2: Get to go on a spat trip with your buds 1215 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 2: and your parents are watching the dog. 1216 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:08,280 Speaker 1: Yes, you get to do butt workouts and pilates whatever. 1217 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 1: Girls in yoga in your house again. She's gonna live 1218 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,240 Speaker 1: her best life. Imagine flex and I have my own house. 1219 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, you got your sanity back. 1220 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:21,360 Speaker 1: Yes, Oh my gosh. Guys, that's the end of that story. 1221 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,759 Speaker 1: If you love us, make sure to subscribe. We love 1222 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,719 Speaker 1: you and see you tomorrow.