WEBVTT - RHOBH: Dorit and Garcelle Race Wars 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:05.080 Hey rain Drops. Yes, so I finally got merch. That's right. 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:07.920 You can buy your Allegedly and. 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:13.360 My Boys mugs, T shirts, rain Drops, hoodies and T 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:17.639 shirts all on Carlos Kingshop dot com. 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:18.560 That's right. 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:22.760 Get your hoodies, your T shirts, and your mugs all 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:26.200 on Carlos Kingshop dot com. 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:29.800 Welcome to Reality with the King. 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:33.879 It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:37.680 one of the most sought after executive producers in reality 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:42.280 television with over ten years of production experience. Twice a 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:44.960 week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:49.919 my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows, 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:53.880 and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking and 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:56.000 tweeting about. 0:00:58.040 --> 0:00:59.080 Hey rain Drops. 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:02.240 On today's episod A Reality for the King, I am 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:05.480 reunited with my favorite Haitian Galahadi. 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:09.880 Yes, you know I love her. She's so gorgeous. She's 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:10.560 my girl. 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:16.200 She's a comedian, she's a host, she is a journalist. 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:17.840 Honey, yes, and we live for her. 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:21.520 Please give it up baby, for the one and the 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:24.120 only Jesse Wooo. 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:30.640 Yes, yes, yes, yes, so we have to get into 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:33.199 this episode. Girl, we got to go back a little 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:37.759 bit to this party that Crystal had at her home, 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:41.520 and all the girls were doing what they do, which 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:46.960 is get into each other's business, right, doing a sort 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:51.440 of heated conversation. Darik was trying to, you know, ask 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:55.960 questions about Sutton and just getting information, and all of 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:58.040 a sudden, her and Garcel got into this sort of 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:06.520 like interesting change. Durit use the word attack and garcells 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:15.120 mood change instantly, and in that moment, Garcel said to her, 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:17.880 I did not attack you, and don't use that word 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:18.040 to me. 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:19.959 And then Dereise said, why can I use that word? 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.639 And Erica Jane said, because that's a woman to color 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:27.640 your white woe might so explain to me, Jesse Will, 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:31.800 as you were watching all of that unfold, what was 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:32.680 going through your mind? 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:34.920 First of all, I shout out to Erica Jane. A 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:37.320 lot of people don't like Erica. I happen to love Erica. 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:39.799 She's my fellow cancer, and I feel like cancers a 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:43.800 lot of times are very misunderstood. I think at her course, 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:48.120 she's actually really a really fun person. I just think, 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:50.440 you know, a lot of things have happened to her, 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:54.240 and so we've seen another side of her that is 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:57.480 sometimes unpleasant, but I think that comes with when you're 0:02:57.520 --> 0:02:59.280 just not in a good place, you know what I mean. 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:01.440 So but I really I'm rooting for Erica. 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:05.120 But shout out to her because before garselves could even 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:07.560 explain it, which she wasn't gonna explain it, she said, 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:11.200 I'm not here to educate you and Mary pery, Okay, 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:13.200 you got minded about it on African lives. You should 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:15.799 have money go educate yourself on why you cannot use 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:19.640 the word attack for black women's But before garself could 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:28.440 even explain herself, Erica said, you're white. You're a white woman, right, 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:31.800 and there are just certain connotations when you use certain 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:35.600 words for a non white person, for a black person. 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:39.320 You're a white she's black, and she's still sitting there 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.320 like and it's like. 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:46.200 Girl, girl, let's be for real. And I do think that. 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:50.800 A little bit to her credit, I do think white 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:53.080 women like to throw that word around with each other. 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:58.200 But we all know that there's a different connotation between 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:01.200 white women. Oh my god, but she's a you attacked 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:04.880 me to Oh but you attacked me to. 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.840 A black woman. Let's just be for real. 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:11.360 It's weaponized in a way that it's not weaponized to 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:13.600 your fellow Caucasian sister. 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:16.840 Okay, it's just not the same thing. So shout out 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:17.960 to Erica for saying that. 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:18.680 Yeah. 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:24.119 No, I really was pleasantly surprised that it wasn't because 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.760 the way reality works, and you know this, being on 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:29.880 reality to yourself is one thing to say things in 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:33.400 the moment, like in the moment, in the scene and 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:37.560 you're filming it, versus saying in your confessionals when you 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:39.920 either had time to think about it or someone said, 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:41.560 girls say this because it makes you look good. 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:44.360 One thing we have to give Erica Jane. 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:49.080 Is that she instantly clocked it and instantly was able 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:54.040 to explain it in a very urgent way, like, no, 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:56.800 this is the reason why you're unable to say it. 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.159 You're white, she's black. It's different for you. It's different 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:02.320 for you, and I agree with you. Kudos to Erica 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:06.040 Jayne for instantly being able to say, no, I recognize it, 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:09.560 and I'm educated within what was happening in the world 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:13.520 for me to tell you, you just can't say it now. 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:15.880 You being a black woman. 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:17.760 As well, can you explain to the audience, because I 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:21.000 really I want to talk to you because you are 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:26.680 so well versed and just being this global international woman. 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:33.200 Because a lot of people did not understand Garcel's point 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:37.680 of view. Okay, there were some people, Jesse, who felt 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:42.200 that what you said earlier, and the producer showed a 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:46.359 montage of flashbacks of this, right, how the other cast 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:49.520 members used the word attacked towards each other, and that 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:55.040 when Dart was saying it to Garsell, she didn't mean 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:59.440 it to be, you know, isolating her as a black 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:04.440 woman's part of her vocabulary, her vernacular, and she wanted. 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:04.640 To use it. 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:06.799 What do you have to say to people who believe 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:11.640 that that THERI had no malicious intent in saying it 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.159 towards Garcell. Being a black woman is the word she 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:16.080 uses in her every day vernacular. 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:20.680 Well, I would have thought that until she gave the pushback. 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:25.559 When she gave the pushback, it's like, lady, you should 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:27.280 have just thought that, Well, you know what, that wasn't 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:29.599 my intent, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, she's like, well, 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.000 I think she asked her, like, well, explain to me 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:35.640 why you feel that I shouldn't use this word or whatever, 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.160 And Garcela was like yo, like I'm not about to 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:38.719 educate you. 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:40.279 Erica just did. 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:44.920 And at this point in twenty twenty four, like we're 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:47.919 literally like on the other end of twenty twenty, Like 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:50.520 what all the things that we seen happened in twenty twenty. 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:53.560 We saw this cast, the Beverly Hills Cast, you know, 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:58.280 talk about some of the issues that were, you know, 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:01.560 prevalent during twenty two only the protests, Like you guys 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:05.440 are well aware, You're aware, you are aware, and so 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.800 I feel like anytime you try to well, I don't understand. No, 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:12.040 you do understand, you don't understand. And not only that, 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:16.040 I feel that Garcell's are not the only person who's 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:18.320 brought up those types of points before, but I even 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:21.920 feel Crystal has kind of kind of touched on that 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:25.920 from time to time, but Garcel has had a specific 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:30.960 experience in this group. We've even seen Erica like it 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:34.080 was good to see Erica. You're not gonna say you're white. 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:37.000 But also Erica owed Garcel that because we saw how 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:39.840 Erica talked to Garcel's black sons. 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:42.880 And Craziest seasons. 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:46.440 Right right, not knowing that he was Garcel's son. So 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.840 we saw how she truly perceived this little black boy, right, 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:56.320 And so y'all are aware. You're aware of what words, 0:07:56.600 --> 0:08:01.240 what certain words do to trigger certain emotions, certain actions, 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:04.560 and certain perceptions. 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:07.920 Of black women in this society. You're aware. 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.520 And so for me, it's like if she didn't push back, 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:13.400 like at all, yeah, okay, yeah, didn't mean it. 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:15.680 But because she pushed back, I was like, oh no, 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.960 she meant it. She meant it. She meant it. 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:22.520 You believe she meant it. You believe she meant it. Yeah, okay, okay. 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:27.720 When when, when all that was unfolding, guar celles mood 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:31.400 instantly changed. And when she said to her, I'm not 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:34.200 here to educate you. That is not and she said, 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:37.840 you live in a bubble and that's not my job. 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:43.400 Like I'm over it, and the read girl got up, 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:45.600 got her chanail back. 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:51.920 She said, oh, you're not going to educate me. Well, 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:56.000 why don't I just roll? Why don't I just roll? 0:08:57.000 --> 0:09:00.000 Because here's the thing too, right, let me tell you, 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:03.240 whenever a black woman says something like that, here's why 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.160 we say that, because we know what you're about to do. 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:09.600 Now, we're gonna do the tit for tat. 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:13.360 It's gonna be Oh but but but ain't no. 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:17.319 But there's no buts. I'm not butting with you. We're 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:18.240 not doing the butt. 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:20.640 We're not doing that. We're not doing that. We're not 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:22.760 playing a tennis match, you know what I mean? Like 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:25.520 you know right from wrong. 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:27.880 You've seen. 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:31.079 What has happened to me in this group and what 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:33.880 I've had to address, and mind you too. Garcela is 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.480 someone who I feel like a couple of episodes before 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:39.440 this was saying how I think she says she doesn't 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.480 feel comfortable talking about her family or something like that. 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:46.880 Earlier this season, they were in Vegas and Garcel told 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:50.000 the girls, I don't feel comfortable talking about my children 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:50.280 to you. 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:54.720 To you ladies, right, we've seen how her children were treated. 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.679 These women are well aware of how Garcel has been 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:03.560 made to feel in this group, and so I feel 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.960 like the whole tell me that's like, that's gaslighting. 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:09.720 You know, you know you're aware. 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:12.760 I really want to explain to my listeners as well. 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:17.680 I'm Jesse about the reason why when a white person 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:21.920 or woman calls another black woman and saying you're attacking me. 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:25.800 Can you explain to the audience why that is a 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:29.800 trigger word for women in the black community because one 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:32.440 thing that I've learned being a black man, right, yeah, 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.360 working on all the shows I work on with black 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:40.360 women and men, is there is a conversation within the 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:43.640 black community about how black women of certain shades. 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:47.839 If you're a lighter shade black woman telling a darker 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:49.560 skinned black woman, you're aggressive. 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:51.000 You know. 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.319 I've learned that on the courtesy of my shows. And 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:57.040 I was like, oh, please tell me. I want to 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:00.720 be educated, and I've learned that lighter skin black women 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:05.960 calling a darker skin black woman aggressed ve is is 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:09.960 not welcomed. To explain to the audience why the word 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:13.440 attack is sort of in that same realm, or is it. 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:15.760 Well, there was an instance where we were having a 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:17.960 conversation and you said something to me one time. I 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.280 was like, I could have taken it that way too, 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:21.880 but I know that wasn't your intention. 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:25.440 I never said anything to you, but tell me, yeah, 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:26.360 when you when you came. 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:28.760 On this Nation one time and you were like, we're 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:32.480 talking about how I can land a husband, yes, and 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:34.319 you were like, you know, you just gotta. 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:38.239 Tone it down. I said it down, ye, remember. 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:42.280 That, And so I felt like I understand what you're saying, 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.679 but I understand what you're saying, and I know that 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.200 you know enough about me, even though we don't hang 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:49.080 out all the time. 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:51.839 It's like, you know enough about me to know that. 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:58.160 I am solf, I am, I am girly, you know 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:02.520 what I mean. But I feel like sometimes my perception, 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:07.360 just because I am outspoken, is that, damn tone it down. 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:09.920 You talk too much, you're. 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:12.520 Aggressive, You're loud, you know, Like it's like sometimes I'm 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:14.360 not even being loud, but you're loud. 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:15.400 It's like, you know what I mean. 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:18.800 And I do feel that sometimes it comes with being 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:22.720 a dark skinned girl. I will see like light skinned 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:25.000 girls doing the same thing, and it's, Ooh, she's fine, 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:29.680 she's spicy, you know what I mean. She lig but 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:32.760 I like, tone it down, you know what I mean. Like, 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:38.960 it's just crazy how colorism, racism, all that different shades 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:42.400 of people, even within the white community. I mean, look 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.120 at Prince Harry, you know, he he ginger. I don't 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:46.880 know if that we could say that, but you know, 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:48.480 the Gingers, I would like to look at them as 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:50.600 they are the negroes of the white community. You know, 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:56.800 reread it a certain way, and I'm saying I actually 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:59.280 briefly dated a Ginger and he told me that too. 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:02.800 People's like, you know, ginger is a derogatory like he was. 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:07.000 Very like it. See, I'm I'm learning stuff every day, okay. 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:08.880 But I think I think for him it was. And 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:11.080 I just talk to other white people and they're like no, 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.079 But the thing was he was treated a certain way 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:15.480 because he was Ginger. 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:17.920 I'm glad you you you you're. 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:20.040 Telling me now about the conversation in real time, because 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:23.680 I apologize for saying tone it down, because, like you said, 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:24.600 I didn't mean it that way. 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:25.080 No. 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:29.280 Yeah, but I like to go through. 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:33.240 Life being called out on things that is in my 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:37.360 every day vernacular to say like no, Carlos, like that's 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:40.960 not something that you should always say, or maybe look 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:44.079 at the person deeper or whatever. Just like I've learned 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:46.280 through my shows about the whole thing with like the 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:48.480 word aggressor when it comes to black woman. 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:49.480 I learned that. 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:51.960 I said, oh, this is the thing, and I didn't 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.280 realize it was one. So thank you for sharing that 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:54.560 with me. 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:55.000 Honestly. 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:58.320 Yeah, but again I felt like with you, what you 0:13:58.360 --> 0:13:59.840 were doing too was. 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:05.120 You were pointing out the way I'm perceived. 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:06.439 You know. 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:09.800 I mean like you might not really perceive me that way, 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:12.240 but you were telling I feel like you were kind 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.960 of like being a brother in that moment, like this 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:18.760 is how the guys are perceiving you. Which yeah, which 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:21.880 is it might not even be true, it's not true, 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:23.880 but that is my reality. 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:26.120 That has been my reality. 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:30.320 When I just put my foot down on something, it's oh, I. 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:30.920 Can't do it with her. 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:33.000 I can't, you know what I mean, she do too 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.200 much because I won't let you just come by and 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:36.040 just do anything. 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:39.240 That doesn't mean I'm not soft. I'm on the soft 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:43.120 as bitch as you'll meet. If you treat me right, literally, 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:44.720 if you treat me right. 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:47.600 I will wait on you hand and foot. But you 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:52.320 have to treat me like I'm soft. You have to 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:56.200 treat me delicately. And I feel like with black women, 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:58.800 black women are not seen as delicate. Black women are 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:01.760 not seen as soft. Black women are not you know, 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:04.080 like you got black women out. 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:06.880 Here being told not to cry. That is office, you 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:07.280 know what I mean. 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:07.640 We came. 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:09.880 It's like nothing we. 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:15.720 Do paints us in a light that is soft and delicate, 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:18.880 the way our white counterparts are perceived. 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:24.360 So after that they did meet up for lunch and 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:28.080 the tension was so thick they could have cut with 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.600 the butter knife at the table, because you could tell 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:32.680 none of them wanted to be there. Garcelle was like, 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:36.000 my cars parked the meter outside for thirty minutes, Like 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.360 I don't want to eat, I barely want to be here. Girl, 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:40.080 let's get this thing out. I know what I gotta do, 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:44.240 and I'm out of here. So it was very awkward, 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:52.360 very uncomfortable. Garsel did say that she did not sleep 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.720 for two nights and she was crying for two nights, 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:57.680 and there were some people on Twitter who thought she 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:04.400 was being she was exaggerating that that here's garcel being 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:08.560 an actress. And some people who were saying this Jesse 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:09.440 were black people. 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:11.160 Again, this is social media. 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:18.280 There's TikTok videos recorded with black content creators saying that 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:25.680 garcel exaggerating, saying she cried for two nights, she couldn't sleep. 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:29.120 They felt she was race baiting. 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:32.680 Let me tell you something, Carlos, you ever been in 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:36.520 a situation where somebody said some wild shit to you, 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:40.960 Like somebody said something real wild to you, and you 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:47.240 know you held your composure so well. But then when 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:52.520 you got home, you just exploded and you ran the 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:56.600 conversation back a million times like should I should have? 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:57.320 And I should have? 0:16:57.440 --> 0:17:02.160 And when she that's what Garcel was going through. That's 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.600 what Garcel was going through. We've all been there. 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:07.720 I never looked at it that way. 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:09.520 I'm want to do something like that right now. That 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:12.480 was somebody out worked with. That's what she was getting into. 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:16.560 That's what was happening to her. Garcel went home, she 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:19.840 thought about it. She held her composure because here's the thing, too, 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:23.399 Garcell's not just having a conversation with this white woman 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:27.520 about this white woman using a trigger word that is 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:34.639 known to literally put black people behind bars, right, to 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:38.679 put black people in positions that are very disparaging. 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:38.960 Right. 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:42.480 But she had this conversation with that white woman on camera. 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:48.000 So she had to restrain herself a lot. And you 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:51.440 could tell she was restraining herself a lot. It took 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:53.320 everything in her for her to just be calm in 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:56.080 that moment. I feel like she wanted to be like, girl, 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:59.359 you know good, and like you know good and damn 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:03.199 well what you meant by saying that word? And I'm 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:07.720 gonna need you to swallow that word and never regurgitated 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:11.560 in my presence ever. Again, Like I really feel like 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:15.120 that's like I feel like she really wanted to explode 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:19.199 in that moment and she couldn't because again, even that 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:21.720 will be seen as race baiting. Even that will be 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:24.640 seen at all. But see, but that's her being aggressive. 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:26.760 Is she gonna be an angry black woman? And she's like, 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:29.560 you know what I mean, it's gonna be like aha, 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:31.200 a lot of people look at your reaction. 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:32.639 They don't look at what happened to you. 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:38.959 And so Garsell had to go home and live with 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:42.560 that and then come. 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:48.320 Back outside and sit across from this same white woman. 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:54.959 Who wanted to be educated again on how that word 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:57.800 you know, it's triggering and everything. 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:03.639 And for that woman to turn around and say, but 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:13.840 you didn't know I was Jewish? I'm sorry since one 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:18.480 was being Jewish and races? What are we talking about here? 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:22.040 So we're gonna use Judaism as a as a reason 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:23.199 to back up being racist. 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:26.080 I'm not understanding, Like what is the correlation? What are 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.160 we doing? Like, you know, white people ain't the only 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:29.080 ones who are Jewish? 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:32.960 Why you know there are Jewish people across different races 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:40.400 and cultures and here you are using that and then saying, well, 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:45.520 but I'm marginalized too, You're marginal I'm marginalized too. 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:54.800 What are we talking about? Seriously? And that's why Garcela 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:56.080 didn't want to educate her. 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:08.480 I hate you interrupt, but stay tuned for more. Baby. 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:11.760 It is the new year, and yes we all have 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:16.320 a resolution. 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Do black women expect me to do that? 0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:44.480 What is interesting about Garcil's presence on Beverly Hills Housewives, 0:22:44.480 --> 0:22:46.080 and you and I talked about this last year on 0:22:46.080 --> 0:22:49.520 this very podcast. I said this from the beginning when 0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:54.520 Garsel told the ladies this may be her first season 0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:57.280