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Speaker 1: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and
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Speaker 1: my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows,
Speaker 1: and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking and
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Speaker 2: Hey rain Drops.
Speaker 1: On today's episod A Reality for the King, I am
Speaker 1: reunited with my favorite Haitian Galahadi.
Speaker 2: Yes, you know I love her. She's so gorgeous. She's
Speaker 2: my girl.
Speaker 1: She's a comedian, she's a host, she is a journalist.
Speaker 2: Honey, yes, and we live for her.
Speaker 1: Please give it up baby, for the one and the
Speaker 1: only Jesse Wooo.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, so we have to get into
Speaker 3: this episode. Girl, we got to go back a little
Speaker 3: bit to this party that Crystal had at her home,
Speaker 3: and all the girls were doing what they do, which
Speaker 3: is get into each other's business, right, doing a sort
Speaker 3: of heated conversation. Darik was trying to, you know, ask
Speaker 3: questions about Sutton and just getting information, and all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, her and Garcel got into this sort of
Speaker 3: like interesting change. Durit use the word attack and garcells
Speaker 3: mood change instantly, and in that moment, Garcel said to her,
Speaker 3: I did not attack you, and don't use that word
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 1: And then Dereise said, why can I use that word?
Speaker 1: And Erica Jane said, because that's a woman to color
Speaker 1: your white woe might so explain to me, Jesse Will,
Speaker 1: as you were watching all of that unfold, what was
Speaker 1: going through your mind?
Speaker 4: First of all, I shout out to Erica Jane. A
Speaker 4: lot of people don't like Erica. I happen to love Erica.
Speaker 4: She's my fellow cancer, and I feel like cancers a
Speaker 4: lot of times are very misunderstood. I think at her course,
Speaker 4: she's actually really a really fun person. I just think,
Speaker 4: you know, a lot of things have happened to her,
Speaker 4: and so we've seen another side of her that is
Speaker 4: sometimes unpleasant, but I think that comes with when you're
Speaker 4: just not in a good place, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So but I really I'm rooting for Erica.
Speaker 4: But shout out to her because before garselves could even
Speaker 4: explain it, which she wasn't gonna explain it, she said,
Speaker 4: I'm not here to educate you and Mary pery, Okay,
Speaker 4: you got minded about it on African lives. You should
Speaker 4: have money go educate yourself on why you cannot use
Speaker 4: the word attack for black women's But before garself could
Speaker 4: even explain herself, Erica said, you're white. You're a white woman, right,
Speaker 4: and there are just certain connotations when you use certain
Speaker 4: words for a non white person, for a black person.
Speaker 4: You're a white she's black, and she's still sitting there
Speaker 4: like and it's like.
Speaker 5: Girl, girl, let's be for real. And I do think that.
Speaker 4: A little bit to her credit, I do think white
Speaker 4: women like to throw that word around with each other.
Speaker 4: But we all know that there's a different connotation between
Speaker 4: white women. Oh my god, but she's a you attacked
Speaker 4: me to Oh but you attacked me to.
Speaker 5: A black woman. Let's just be for real.
Speaker 4: It's weaponized in a way that it's not weaponized to
Speaker 4: your fellow Caucasian sister.
Speaker 5: Okay, it's just not the same thing. So shout out
Speaker 5: to Erica for saying that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I really was pleasantly surprised that it wasn't because
Speaker 1: the way reality works, and you know this, being on
Speaker 1: reality to yourself is one thing to say things in
Speaker 1: the moment, like in the moment, in the scene and
Speaker 1: you're filming it, versus saying in your confessionals when you
Speaker 1: either had time to think about it or someone said,
Speaker 1: girls say this because it makes you look good.
Speaker 2: One thing we have to give Erica Jane.
Speaker 1: Is that she instantly clocked it and instantly was able
Speaker 1: to explain it in a very urgent way, like, no,
Speaker 1: this is the reason why you're unable to say it.
Speaker 1: You're white, she's black. It's different for you. It's different
Speaker 1: for you, and I agree with you. Kudos to Erica
Speaker 1: Jayne for instantly being able to say, no, I recognize it,
Speaker 1: and I'm educated within what was happening in the world
Speaker 1: for me to tell you, you just can't say it now.
Speaker 2: You being a black woman.
Speaker 1: As well, can you explain to the audience, because I
Speaker 1: really I want to talk to you because you are
Speaker 1: so well versed and just being this global international woman.
Speaker 1: Because a lot of people did not understand Garcel's point
Speaker 1: of view. Okay, there were some people, Jesse, who felt
Speaker 1: that what you said earlier, and the producer showed a
Speaker 1: montage of flashbacks of this, right, how the other cast
Speaker 1: members used the word attacked towards each other, and that
Speaker 1: when Dart was saying it to Garsell, she didn't mean
Speaker 1: it to be, you know, isolating her as a black
Speaker 1: woman's part of her vocabulary, her vernacular, and she wanted.
Speaker 2: To use it.
Speaker 1: What do you have to say to people who believe
Speaker 1: that that THERI had no malicious intent in saying it
Speaker 1: towards Garcell. Being a black woman is the word she
Speaker 1: uses in her every day vernacular.
Speaker 4: Well, I would have thought that until she gave the pushback.
Speaker 4: When she gave the pushback, it's like, lady, you should
Speaker 4: have just thought that, Well, you know what, that wasn't
Speaker 4: my intent, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, she's like, well,
Speaker 4: I think she asked her, like, well, explain to me
Speaker 4: why you feel that I shouldn't use this word or whatever,
Speaker 4: And Garcela was like yo, like I'm not about to
Speaker 4: educate you.
Speaker 5: Erica just did.
Speaker 4: And at this point in twenty twenty four, like we're
Speaker 4: literally like on the other end of twenty twenty, Like
Speaker 4: what all the things that we seen happened in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: We saw this cast, the Beverly Hills Cast, you know,
Speaker 4: talk about some of the issues that were, you know,
Speaker 4: prevalent during twenty two only the protests, Like you guys
Speaker 4: are well aware, You're aware, you are aware, and so
Speaker 4: I feel like anytime you try to well, I don't understand. No,
Speaker 4: you do understand, you don't understand. And not only that,
Speaker 4: I feel that Garcell's are not the only person who's
Speaker 4: brought up those types of points before, but I even
Speaker 4: feel Crystal has kind of kind of touched on that
Speaker 4: from time to time, but Garcel has had a specific
Speaker 4: experience in this group. We've even seen Erica like it
Speaker 4: was good to see Erica. You're not gonna say you're white.
Speaker 4: But also Erica owed Garcel that because we saw how
Speaker 4: Erica talked to Garcel's black sons.
Speaker 5: And Craziest seasons.
Speaker 4: Right right, not knowing that he was Garcel's son. So
Speaker 4: we saw how she truly perceived this little black boy, right,
Speaker 4: And so y'all are aware. You're aware of what words,
Speaker 4: what certain words do to trigger certain emotions, certain actions,
Speaker 4: and certain perceptions.
Speaker 5: Of black women in this society. You're aware.
Speaker 4: And so for me, it's like if she didn't push back,
Speaker 4: like at all, yeah, okay, yeah, didn't mean it.
Speaker 5: But because she pushed back, I was like, oh no,
Speaker 5: she meant it. She meant it. She meant it.
Speaker 2: You believe she meant it. You believe she meant it. Yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: When when, when all that was unfolding, guar celles mood
Speaker 1: instantly changed. And when she said to her, I'm not
Speaker 1: here to educate you. That is not and she said,
Speaker 1: you live in a bubble and that's not my job.
Speaker 1: Like I'm over it, and the read girl got up,
Speaker 1: got her chanail back.
Speaker 5: She said, oh, you're not going to educate me. Well,
Speaker 5: why don't I just roll? Why don't I just roll?
Speaker 4: Because here's the thing too, right, let me tell you,
Speaker 4: whenever a black woman says something like that, here's why
Speaker 4: we say that, because we know what you're about to do.
Speaker 5: Now, we're gonna do the tit for tat.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be Oh but but but ain't no.
Speaker 5: But there's no buts. I'm not butting with you. We're
Speaker 5: not doing the butt.
Speaker 4: We're not doing that. We're not doing that. We're not
Speaker 4: playing a tennis match, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 4: you know right from wrong.
Speaker 5: You've seen.
Speaker 4: What has happened to me in this group and what
Speaker 4: I've had to address, and mind you too. Garcela is
Speaker 4: someone who I feel like a couple of episodes before
Speaker 4: this was saying how I think she says she doesn't
Speaker 4: feel comfortable talking about her family or something like that.
Speaker 1: Earlier this season, they were in Vegas and Garcel told
Speaker 1: the girls, I don't feel comfortable talking about my children
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 4: To you ladies, right, we've seen how her children were treated.
Speaker 4: These women are well aware of how Garcel has been
Speaker 4: made to feel in this group, and so I feel
Speaker 4: like the whole tell me that's like, that's gaslighting.
Speaker 5: You know, you know you're aware.
Speaker 1: I really want to explain to my listeners as well.
Speaker 1: I'm Jesse about the reason why when a white person
Speaker 1: or woman calls another black woman and saying you're attacking me.
Speaker 1: Can you explain to the audience why that is a
Speaker 1: trigger word for women in the black community because one
Speaker 1: thing that I've learned being a black man, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: working on all the shows I work on with black
Speaker 1: women and men, is there is a conversation within the
Speaker 1: black community about how black women of certain shades.
Speaker 2: If you're a lighter shade black woman telling a darker
Speaker 2: skinned black woman, you're aggressive.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: I've learned that on the courtesy of my shows. And
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, please tell me. I want to
Speaker 1: be educated, and I've learned that lighter skin black women
Speaker 1: calling a darker skin black woman aggressed ve is is
Speaker 1: not welcomed. To explain to the audience why the word
Speaker 1: attack is sort of in that same realm, or is it.
Speaker 4: Well, there was an instance where we were having a
Speaker 4: conversation and you said something to me one time. I
Speaker 4: was like, I could have taken it that way too,
Speaker 4: but I know that wasn't your intention.
Speaker 5: I never said anything to you, but tell me, yeah,
Speaker 5: when you when you came.
Speaker 4: On this Nation one time and you were like, we're
Speaker 4: talking about how I can land a husband, yes, and
Speaker 4: you were like, you know, you just gotta.
Speaker 2: Tone it down. I said it down, ye, remember.
Speaker 4: That, And so I felt like I understand what you're saying,
Speaker 4: but I understand what you're saying, and I know that
Speaker 4: you know enough about me, even though we don't hang
Speaker 4: out all the time.
Speaker 5: It's like, you know enough about me to know that.
Speaker 4: I am solf, I am, I am girly, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. But I feel like sometimes my perception,
Speaker 4: just because I am outspoken, is that, damn tone it down.
Speaker 5: You talk too much, you're.
Speaker 4: Aggressive, You're loud, you know, Like it's like sometimes I'm
Speaker 4: not even being loud, but you're loud.
Speaker 5: It's like, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And I do feel that sometimes it comes with being
Speaker 4: a dark skinned girl. I will see like light skinned
Speaker 4: girls doing the same thing, and it's, Ooh, she's fine,
Speaker 4: she's spicy, you know what I mean. She lig but
Speaker 4: I like, tone it down, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 4: it's just crazy how colorism, racism, all that different shades
Speaker 4: of people, even within the white community. I mean, look
Speaker 4: at Prince Harry, you know, he he ginger. I don't
Speaker 4: know if that we could say that, but you know,
Speaker 4: the Gingers, I would like to look at them as
Speaker 4: they are the negroes of the white community. You know,
Speaker 4: reread it a certain way, and I'm saying I actually
Speaker 4: briefly dated a Ginger and he told me that too.
Speaker 5: People's like, you know, ginger is a derogatory like he was.
Speaker 2: Very like it. See, I'm I'm learning stuff every day, okay.
Speaker 4: But I think I think for him it was. And
Speaker 4: I just talk to other white people and they're like no,
Speaker 4: But the thing was he was treated a certain way
Speaker 4: because he was Ginger.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you you you you're.
Speaker 1: Telling me now about the conversation in real time, because
Speaker 1: I apologize for saying tone it down, because, like you said,
Speaker 1: I didn't mean it that way.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I like to go through.
Speaker 1: Life being called out on things that is in my
Speaker 1: every day vernacular to say like no, Carlos, like that's
Speaker 1: not something that you should always say, or maybe look
Speaker 1: at the person deeper or whatever. Just like I've learned
Speaker 1: through my shows about the whole thing with like the
Speaker 1: word aggressor when it comes to black woman.
Speaker 2: I learned that.
Speaker 1: I said, oh, this is the thing, and I didn't
Speaker 1: realize it was one. So thank you for sharing that
Speaker 1: with me.
Speaker 2: Honestly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but again I felt like with you, what you
Speaker 4: were doing too was.
Speaker 5: You were pointing out the way I'm perceived.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: I mean like you might not really perceive me that way,
Speaker 4: but you were telling I feel like you were kind
Speaker 4: of like being a brother in that moment, like this
Speaker 4: is how the guys are perceiving you. Which yeah, which
Speaker 4: is it might not even be true, it's not true,
Speaker 4: but that is my reality.
Speaker 5: That has been my reality.
Speaker 4: When I just put my foot down on something, it's oh, I.
Speaker 5: Can't do it with her.
Speaker 4: I can't, you know what I mean, she do too
Speaker 4: much because I won't let you just come by and
Speaker 4: just do anything.
Speaker 5: That doesn't mean I'm not soft. I'm on the soft
Speaker 5: as bitch as you'll meet. If you treat me right, literally,
Speaker 5: if you treat me right.
Speaker 4: I will wait on you hand and foot. But you
Speaker 4: have to treat me like I'm soft. You have to
Speaker 4: treat me delicately. And I feel like with black women,
Speaker 4: black women are not seen as delicate. Black women are
Speaker 4: not seen as soft. Black women are not you know,
Speaker 4: like you got black women out.
Speaker 5: Here being told not to cry. That is office, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: We came.
Speaker 5: It's like nothing we.
Speaker 4: Do paints us in a light that is soft and delicate,
Speaker 4: the way our white counterparts are perceived.
Speaker 1: So after that they did meet up for lunch and
Speaker 1: the tension was so thick they could have cut with
Speaker 1: the butter knife at the table, because you could tell
Speaker 1: none of them wanted to be there. Garcelle was like,
Speaker 1: my cars parked the meter outside for thirty minutes, Like
Speaker 1: I don't want to eat, I barely want to be here. Girl,
Speaker 1: let's get this thing out. I know what I gotta do,
Speaker 1: and I'm out of here. So it was very awkward,
Speaker 1: very uncomfortable. Garsel did say that she did not sleep
Speaker 1: for two nights and she was crying for two nights,
Speaker 1: and there were some people on Twitter who thought she
Speaker 1: was being she was exaggerating that that here's garcel being
Speaker 1: an actress. And some people who were saying this Jesse
Speaker 1: were black people.
Speaker 2: Again, this is social media.
Speaker 1: There's TikTok videos recorded with black content creators saying that
Speaker 1: garcel exaggerating, saying she cried for two nights, she couldn't sleep.
Speaker 2: They felt she was race baiting.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you something, Carlos, you ever been in
Speaker 4: a situation where somebody said some wild shit to you,
Speaker 4: Like somebody said something real wild to you, and you
Speaker 4: know you held your composure so well. But then when
Speaker 4: you got home, you just exploded and you ran the
Speaker 4: conversation back a million times like should I should have?
Speaker 5: And I should have?
Speaker 4: And when she that's what Garcel was going through. That's
Speaker 4: what Garcel was going through. We've all been there.
Speaker 2: I never looked at it that way.
Speaker 4: I'm want to do something like that right now. That
Speaker 4: was somebody out worked with. That's what she was getting into.
Speaker 4: That's what was happening to her. Garcel went home, she
Speaker 4: thought about it. She held her composure because here's the thing, too,
Speaker 4: Garcell's not just having a conversation with this white woman
Speaker 4: about this white woman using a trigger word that is
Speaker 4: known to literally put black people behind bars, right, to
Speaker 4: put black people in positions that are very disparaging.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: But she had this conversation with that white woman on camera.
Speaker 4: So she had to restrain herself a lot. And you
Speaker 4: could tell she was restraining herself a lot. It took
Speaker 4: everything in her for her to just be calm in
Speaker 4: that moment. I feel like she wanted to be like, girl,
Speaker 4: you know good, and like you know good and damn
Speaker 4: well what you meant by saying that word? And I'm
Speaker 4: gonna need you to swallow that word and never regurgitated
Speaker 4: in my presence ever. Again, Like I really feel like
Speaker 4: that's like I feel like she really wanted to explode
Speaker 4: in that moment and she couldn't because again, even that
Speaker 4: will be seen as race baiting. Even that will be
Speaker 4: seen at all. But see, but that's her being aggressive.
Speaker 4: Is she gonna be an angry black woman? And she's like,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, it's gonna be like aha,
Speaker 4: a lot of people look at your reaction.
Speaker 5: They don't look at what happened to you.
Speaker 4: And so Garsell had to go home and live with
Speaker 4: that and then come.
Speaker 5: Back outside and sit across from this same white woman.
Speaker 4: Who wanted to be educated again on how that word
Speaker 4: you know, it's triggering and everything.
Speaker 5: And for that woman to turn around and say, but
Speaker 5: you didn't know I was Jewish? I'm sorry since one
Speaker 5: was being Jewish and races? What are we talking about here?
Speaker 4: So we're gonna use Judaism as a as a reason
Speaker 4: to back up being racist.
Speaker 5: I'm not understanding, Like what is the correlation? What are
Speaker 5: we doing? Like, you know, white people ain't the only
Speaker 5: ones who are Jewish?
Speaker 4: Why you know there are Jewish people across different races
Speaker 4: and cultures and here you are using that and then saying, well,
Speaker 4: but I'm marginalized too, You're marginal I'm marginalized too.
Speaker 5: What are we talking about? Seriously? And that's why Garcela
Speaker 5: didn't want to educate her.
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Speaker 1: When Garcel said she cried for two nights, I never
Speaker 1: thought like, oh, to your point, possibly what that means
Speaker 1: is she replayed the mom in her head and she
Speaker 1: was probably disappointed about you should have said that. You
Speaker 1: should have said that, And I'm gonna add on to that,
Speaker 1: you know, possibly too.
Speaker 2: She also thought about.
Speaker 1: The viewers and the black community, what are black women
Speaker 1: going to say? Do black women expect me to do that?
Speaker 1: What is interesting about Garcil's presence on Beverly Hills Housewives,
Speaker 1: and you and I talked about this last year on
Speaker 1: this very podcast. I said this from the beginning when
Speaker 1: Garsel told the ladies this may be her first season
Speaker 1: or second, I don't remember, but I would never forget
Speaker 1: this scene when she told them, you guys have no
Speaker 1: idea what it feels like to be the only black
Speaker 1: person in the room.
Speaker 2: You guys just don't know what that feels like.
Speaker 1: And I praise her on my podcast, I said, I
Speaker 1: felt seen, and I don't think people really understand that
Speaker 1: when you are the only black person in the room,
Speaker 1: you feel uncomfortable. Let's be real, Jesse, oftentimes not everybody,
Speaker 1: we don't represent everybody.
Speaker 2: You oftentimes feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: You oftentimes feel like I don't belong you kind of
Speaker 1: get insecure, Like do I sound right?
Speaker 2: Am I acting right? Do I sound as educated?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: A lot of these things play into your head because
Speaker 1: just about the systemic race system that we dealt with
Speaker 1: in our childhood, and it is trauma. And when you
Speaker 1: are a person of color, no matter how much money
Speaker 1: you have for a large amount of people, you still
Speaker 1: feel that trauma because it shows up in your life
Speaker 1: when you have to deal with social media trolls, or
Speaker 1: when you get pulled up about the cops, or when
Speaker 1: you're trying to get a loan from a bank, or
Speaker 1: when you're trying to buy a house, like you're reminded
Speaker 1: no matter where you are, that you're checking the other box.
Speaker 1: So when Garsell brought the conversation to this show, I
Speaker 1: appreciated this cause I said, oh my gosh, like we
Speaker 1: all feel that way, and garcel is a national treasure
Speaker 1: in the black community. She's fancy from getting Box Sun
Speaker 1: and we love her. So I appreciated that. However, there
Speaker 1: are people, though, who believe that this ain't the show
Speaker 1: for it.
Speaker 4: There was a moment where dol Rito brought up the
Speaker 4: word privilege because remember an initial argument, Garca's like, listen,
Speaker 4: I'm not here to educate you and your privilege.
Speaker 5: Like I'm not right.
Speaker 4: Yes, when they have the lunch date, Durita was like,
Speaker 4: when it comes to privilege, we're all privileged in this group.
Speaker 4: All of us are privileged in this group. And it's like,
Speaker 4: I'm just like, she doesn't want to get it. She
Speaker 4: really just does not want I get it. She doesn't
Speaker 4: want to own what Garcela is saying, I'm so happy
Speaker 4: that Garcella kept telling her, well, you know what, it's
Speaker 4: on you. But when she kept dealing with the word privilege.
Speaker 4: Garcel has like thirty jobs. Garcela does not live the
Speaker 4: same life that these other girls are living. Garcel. I've
Speaker 4: seen Garcel last year do so many things. She was Survival,
Speaker 4: the tickets Netflix, she is narrating a true con show
Speaker 4: I believe on Oxygen. Every now and then, you're gonna
Speaker 4: see Garcel in a Lifetime movie. She's producing, she's doing podcasts,
Speaker 4: she's hosting. Like, Garcel has more jobs than a Jamaican
Speaker 4: in order to live in Beverly Hills.
Speaker 5: It's not the same privilege.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're seeing that now with Taraji p Henson
Speaker 1: talking about the paid disparities amongst black actress in Hollywood
Speaker 1: and how she, along with other black actresses were saying
Speaker 1: how they want to quit the business because it's so hard,
Speaker 1: and how you have to constantly.
Speaker 2: Work, not because you want to, because you have to.
Speaker 5: You have to. So Garcia has to keep up all
Speaker 5: these jobs.
Speaker 4: She doesn't have a you know, even when she did
Speaker 4: have a rich white husband, Garcela was still working.
Speaker 5: She was a working actress.
Speaker 4: Garca has been a working actress for four decades, and
Speaker 4: despite all of her accolades, she still has to work
Speaker 4: like a dog in order to share the same platform
Speaker 4: with these women.
Speaker 2: I e.
Speaker 5: Erica Jane, how'd you get here?
Speaker 2: You had Tom Gerald?
Speaker 5: Yes, you had him. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 5: Christal got The Lion King Man.
Speaker 4: That's my favorite movie of all time, by the way,
Speaker 4: and my favorite Broadway shown. But Garcel has to work
Speaker 4: ten times harder for her privilege. She has to work
Speaker 4: for her privilege and work her privilege. Y'all are just
Speaker 4: born with it. It's just get form with it, they.
Speaker 2: Believe, which which breaks me.
Speaker 1: To Lisa Brenna's tweet, So she said this back in
Speaker 1: like twenty twenty two. She tweeted, and I quote, we
Speaker 1: fight on our show. If we fight with Garsell, we
Speaker 1: are all of a sudden called the racist.
Speaker 2: That's bullshit. I will not accept that.
Speaker 1: I will express myself when and how I want, And
Speaker 1: I am not afraid of you hoes.
Speaker 4: You know what's crazy, It's crazy watching white people type
Speaker 4: in an aave in African American vernacular.
Speaker 5: It's really crazy. What is going on? You hose really.
Speaker 1: I didn't the whole part and listen, the wholest part
Speaker 1: threw me off.
Speaker 6: But I can see her like slinging her phone off after.
Speaker 6: I'm not scared of you hoes, because I just.
Speaker 1: Don't think Lisa Renda when she's at the Shottamar Mott
Speaker 1: Hoddy with Eileen Davidson, I just listen, Ray drops tell
Speaker 1: me bro wrong. I just don't think that Lisa Renna
Speaker 1: is having lunch with Eileen Davidson and Kathy Hilton, she said,
Speaker 1: fuck these hoes.
Speaker 2: I just don't believe that.
Speaker 5: Okay, go ahead, no, absolutely not.
Speaker 4: But see, but that's privilege again, because it's like again,
Speaker 4: it's the way of her, as a white woman woman
Speaker 4: not having to acknowledge that certain speech is very hurtful
Speaker 4: to certain groups of people, to black people. It's kind
Speaker 4: of like when Garcel. I think it was like last
Speaker 4: season or the season before where.
Speaker 5: They were talking about race.
Speaker 4: Or something like that, and Garcel was like, I think
Speaker 4: she asked, Dorrid, well, how many black people do.
Speaker 5: You have a run? Oh? I mean I have like
Speaker 5: people around the house that work around the house.
Speaker 6: Oh my mom's best friend is black.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you about that. Let me tell you.
Speaker 1: Stout that look. I think Garsel being on this show.
Speaker 1: And I've said this since day one. Listen, she's a
Speaker 1: national treasure. I think Garcela is great for the show.
Speaker 1: I think she brings a much needed presence to that show.
Speaker 2: And I think she's a great housewife.
Speaker 1: The only thing I ever said about Garsell was I
Speaker 1: just don't believe her and Sutton are like the best
Speaker 1: of friends.
Speaker 2: And that's that's just my opinion.
Speaker 1: I just think they have I think they're both like, listen,
Speaker 1: we're new kids on the block.
Speaker 2: Let's form an alliance and let's be the new girl. Baby.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry the girls this season.
Speaker 1: This is let me tell you something. I am team
Speaker 1: Sutting this season. This is Sutton's best season.
Speaker 5: Name name them, name them.
Speaker 2: She's getting the girls together. She's getting the girls.
Speaker 1: Together, baby, And I'm here for and I am here
Speaker 1: for Garsel shedding light. Listen for me to be a
Speaker 1: black man in this business and to watch that show
Speaker 1: and see that.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you that scene made me love her even
Speaker 2: more when she.
Speaker 1: Was able to just say her toop like, y'all don't
Speaker 1: know what it feels like to be the only one.
Speaker 1: Y'all just don't know. I know what that feels like.
Speaker 1: You know what that feels like. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's worthy talking about that, but it doesn't feel good.
Speaker 1: So I love that she's bringing this on the show. Look,
Speaker 1: do we love the mess and the cattiness and the
Speaker 1: shade and all that. Yes, But I think the other
Speaker 1: thing that at least I'm trying to do in my
Speaker 1: reality shows, and I think this is what Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: is trying to do, is you have to at least
Speaker 1: have conversations that are relatable because at some point you
Speaker 1: need some sustainability on these shows, and I think Garcel
Speaker 1: being cast brings that. Before I wrap you, where does
Speaker 1: Garsel and Dery golfing here? Do you think they will
Speaker 1: never be friends? Do you think there's room for some growth?
Speaker 5: Some people you just work with.
Speaker 4: You just work with they like they're in the office
Speaker 4: with you. You come in there, you do your job. I
Speaker 4: ain't got a problem with you. I'm not gonna dwell
Speaker 4: on well. I do have a problem with you, but
Speaker 4: it's not resolvable. So there's nothing else for me to
Speaker 4: do or say here, hey, hiy pleasant trees, keep it moving.
Speaker 4: I would love for you know, I would love to
Speaker 4: see in Beverly Hills. There's a Haitian girl on Housewives
Speaker 4: of Miyam.
Speaker 5: She used she was miss hated.
Speaker 2: Key Bart's and she's funny.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 4: I recently just sat down and watched the show. I
Speaker 4: was like, oh my, it was like I was watching myself.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, this lady is perfect,
Speaker 4: Like she is hilarious, gorgeous, witty. I feel like Garcella
Speaker 4: needs something like that. Because one thing I will say,
Speaker 4: I just the fun moments with Garcela and the.
Speaker 5: Show are very far and between. Yeah, yeah, they're very
Speaker 5: spread out.
Speaker 4: It was nice to see her and Erica go out
Speaker 4: and have a good time and like that looked genuinely.
Speaker 5: Like a good time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think Sutton showed up initially feeling like oh shit,
Speaker 5: but then she realized, oh these picures don't have a
Speaker 5: good time. Okay, goo, let's have a good time.
Speaker 4: Like yeah, you know, But I just feel like garcel
Speaker 4: needs I've said this before.
Speaker 5: I think like she needs somebody.
Speaker 1: I know, and I was hoping that was charae Oh
Speaker 1: and what happened with her?
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 1: I always said this as a producer, you can't show everything,
Speaker 1: meaning you got forty two minutes to show something.
Speaker 2: She was not vocal based on what we were we
Speaker 2: were shown.
Speaker 1: I was really rooting for her because on Hollywood Excess
Speaker 1: she was fantastic and she was funny and and look
Speaker 1: all this stuff going on with Jada and Will like
Speaker 1: y'all fired her way too soon, Like I would have
Speaker 1: loved to get some of that Hollywood.
Speaker 5: Like she could have been.
Speaker 4: I thought she could have been candid like Jada, Jada
Speaker 4: and Will like there and and her their family they
Speaker 4: don't give a fuck about it. They wouldn't care about her.
Speaker 5: They wouldn't care.
Speaker 4: They really would genuinely not care because she they know
Speaker 4: that she wouldn't pass certain boundaries. Yeah, so she could
Speaker 4: have spilled her little tea and whatever and kept it
Speaker 4: moving like yeah, I just I feel I feel like
Speaker 4: Garcel does need she does need a friend. Garcel has
Speaker 4: no friends on that show. Crystal has no friends on
Speaker 4: that show. Sudden no friends on.
Speaker 2: That show, No no now.
Speaker 5: But but Garcela is the black one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And because when I seen a lot of a Marie,
Speaker 1: we don't know what their relationship is going to be.
Speaker 1: But just because listen not all black people have to
Speaker 1: be frenzy either, right, so right, but based on their personalities,
Speaker 1: I just don't see tell Emery being friends.
Speaker 2: They're so there's there. I don't know. We'll see what
Speaker 2: happens again.
Speaker 4: Based on what I'm saying, doctor, she's she's, she belongs
Speaker 4: on Maria the medicine.
Speaker 5: The way she came for Sundon's throat, it was.
Speaker 2: Like girl literally her throat, literally her throat.
Speaker 5: Like you know when you swallow, you're supposed to take
Speaker 5: two gulfs. That's science. No, girl, no, this is not
Speaker 5: Marria's medicine.
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Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 5: Yes, So d Jesse will on all social media platforms.
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Speaker 4: I have a movie I'm shooting this next month for
Speaker 4: Peacock is gonna be a holiday movie.
Speaker 5: I'm really excited about that.
Speaker 4: Great, Yeah, I'm really excited about that. Perfectly this year too,
Speaker 4: I get to sell a show and sell a movie.
Speaker 4: That would be like a dream come true.
Speaker 1: So yes, that's what I look forward to Well, You're
Speaker 1: gonna do all things through Christ, who strengthens you, baby,
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