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Speaker 1: Wall with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and
Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Friday, September first, twenty seventeen, Season thirteen,
Speaker 1: episode number thirty one. Welcome to another edition of The Break.
Speaker 1: It is a first edition in a long time. It
Speaker 1: seems like it's been forever since we've been on the
Speaker 1: on the on the air, But we got a lot
Speaker 1: to talk about today. We're gonna talk a lot about
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott and his situation, his situation that's going on.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a little bit about the fifty three
Speaker 1: man roster. I have a few questions for you guys
Speaker 1: around the bubble. Guys, actually gonna be a pretty cool
Speaker 1: piece of content that you two will be involved in
Speaker 1: later today that we're gonna put out. Just so you
Speaker 1: guys know, it's going to be a video where we're
Speaker 1: gonna put all the riders together. Brian, Nick Dave rob
Speaker 1: and you guys are gonna basically you're going to figure
Speaker 1: out a fifty three million roster, and from what I understand,
Speaker 1: you have to come to consensus on it. Good luck
Speaker 1: will be interesting. Good luck. I don't think I've ever
Speaker 1: seen Dave and Brian come to consensus on pretty much anything.
Speaker 1: LSU football. LSU football, that is one thing. You guys
Speaker 1: come and I don't even know if you've everything with
Speaker 1: l football. And as I said that, I was like,
Speaker 1: that's not true, that's not really true. But we got
Speaker 1: a lot to get into. How's everybody doing this one?
Speaker 1: We're good, good, great, awesome, and I'm sure everybody's still
Speaker 1: kind of riding to hire. From last night, I thought
Speaker 1: that was a really cool event. Cowboys put on an
Speaker 1: event to raise some money for needy people down in Houston,
Speaker 1: South Texas for Harvey relief. Raised two point three million
Speaker 1: dollars last night. So a really cool event. Um, you
Speaker 1: guys covered it. Did you guys hear anything from the players?
Speaker 1: I was interesting. I know you talked a few players afterwards.
Speaker 1: Just anything that stood out to you about how they
Speaker 1: felt about doing the event or anything like that. Well,
Speaker 1: I think that the fact that, you know, when you
Speaker 1: look at what was going to happen on Thursday night,
Speaker 1: and it was going to be a game. It was
Speaker 1: going to be these guys on the sideline and these
Speaker 1: guys that are going to be on the field, and
Speaker 1: that's exactly the way it was. It was just a
Speaker 1: little bit different than what how it turned out. I mean,
Speaker 1: with a being a big bank of phones and they're
Speaker 1: they're all answering it. I thought that, you know, the
Speaker 1: obviously they were happy to do that and not practice,
Speaker 1: But as far as the cause, it was great. I mean,
Speaker 1: and the fact that the fans got the call players
Speaker 1: and talk to them. I mean, yeah, they were they
Speaker 1: were donating, but they were also getting a chance to
Speaker 1: talk with their favorite players. So I think it was
Speaker 1: kind of win win for everybody there. And I don't
Speaker 1: want to go as far as to say that they
Speaker 1: didn't want to do it. Obviously it's a good cause.
Speaker 1: It's a great cause, but I can see, you know,
Speaker 1: football players, especially you know, not Jason Witten, but guys
Speaker 1: that aren't in the spotlight so much. Maybe you're a
Speaker 1: little bit apprehensive about that, you know, taking phone calls
Speaker 1: from strangers. How am I going to work the phone,
Speaker 1: this is on TV, Like what exactly am I doing?
Speaker 1: But it seemed like whatever apprehensive this they might have had,
Speaker 1: I think it went away really quickly, and you could
Speaker 1: tell how excited all those guys were to be a
Speaker 1: part of that. And I think, you know, once they
Speaker 1: kind of got the feel for the flow of it,
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, all the feedback I heard from
Speaker 1: those guys was really really positive. Yeah, and again they
Speaker 1: raised two point three million dollars, So that's always a
Speaker 1: good thing when you're raising money to help people that
Speaker 1: are that are really in need. And some cool moments too.
Speaker 1: The last night, I know that there was the moment
Speaker 1: when Jerry and he calls in and gets days on
Speaker 1: the line and he makes his donation of a million dollars.
Speaker 1: That was a fun little moment. So there's a lot
Speaker 1: of the moments like that that made it really cool
Speaker 1: and interesting and fun as well. Yeah, and a lot
Speaker 1: of them just kind of repeated over and over. This
Speaker 1: whole situation went beyond football, so a lot of fans
Speaker 1: were wandering whether they should have canceled the game or
Speaker 1: not maybe use that as a good cost to donate
Speaker 1: money or race money. But they handled it in a
Speaker 1: really good way to turn it around, in a way
Speaker 1: that the Texans were able to get back home to
Speaker 1: their families and their community, yet they were able to
Speaker 1: keep raising money for a good cost. Yep, exactly. All right,
Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about this Zeke Elliott case.
Speaker 1: I know it's a big flip from talking about raising
Speaker 1: money for people who need it to now talking about
Speaker 1: a court case, but that's kind of where we are.
Speaker 1: Gf some the unsay it's no, well, it's just it's
Speaker 1: the perfect description of this job and this team and
Speaker 1: this beat. Because like I left the stadium, I was
Speaker 1: walking out of the stadium. I didn't take the buses,
Speaker 1: so I drove myself, so I was a little bit
Speaker 1: behind everybody else and I'm walking out. I was kind
Speaker 1: of on like a high, like man, like we did
Speaker 1: a cool thing. This is you know, players did this,
Speaker 1: and Jerry gave that and we're helping out and this
Speaker 1: is important. And I didn't even get to my car
Speaker 1: before like the first trickles of news started to come
Speaker 1: about Kia Roberts and you know, she recommended no suspension.
Speaker 1: So I'm reading that and I'm like, oh god, what
Speaker 1: does this mean? Where are we going from here? And
Speaker 1: I went and got dinner and by the time I
Speaker 1: got home, that's when you know, that's when you're seeing
Speaker 1: about you know, Zeke's lawyers filing in East Texas court
Speaker 1: for a restraining oar. I'm just like, my good feeling
Speaker 1: from the telethon lasted for about fifteen minutes before it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, shift gears here and get back into the
Speaker 1: nitty griddy and whatever this whole thing is. So that's
Speaker 1: exactly right. I know, Nick and I were on the
Speaker 1: bus together and Hammer was on there as well, and
Speaker 1: I remember I gave Nick my phonus it read this
Speaker 1: and it was the article where they were talking about
Speaker 1: some of the allegations that we'll get into a little
Speaker 1: bit here, just to kind of lay it out. Yesterday
Speaker 1: they completed the appeal process. They had the Zeke and
Speaker 1: his representatives appealed the suspension, the six game suspension that
Speaker 1: completed yesterday, and then after that last night, the nfl
Speaker 1: PA filed a petition in federal court in Plano, Texas,
Speaker 1: um to prevent the suspension and or expected to file
Speaker 1: a temporary restraining order. And they did it based upon
Speaker 1: some language that they use where they said that he
Speaker 1: was deprived of fundamental fairness. Um. Basically, I guess the
Speaker 1: question for you guys is what was the What was
Speaker 1: the NFL really alleging here was was fundamentally unfair? Because
Speaker 1: obviously the NFL went through its process, it took thirteen months,
Speaker 1: they handed down a six six game suspension. What did
Speaker 1: they say was fundamentally unfair? Well, I honestly, like I'm
Speaker 1: always hesitant on these things to talk about when because
Speaker 1: when we haven't really been digging deep and looking at
Speaker 1: both sides of it. But I think what what they
Speaker 1: were saying is is that if you're going to allow
Speaker 1: Zeke to and you're going to basically put him there
Speaker 1: to testify, but then not not say that the witness
Speaker 1: could testify, not put Roger Dell on there um as
Speaker 1: well as Basically what they're saying is is we we're
Speaker 1: okay with hearing one side, but we don't want to
Speaker 1: put that argument up against any others because that's a
Speaker 1: good way to compare you know, you know, black white
Speaker 1: right wrong. I mean you you can look at these
Speaker 1: two things and go, you know what, Uh, that doesn't
Speaker 1: really hold up next to what Zeke is saying, but
Speaker 1: if you don't put her over there, then it's hard
Speaker 1: it's harder to do that. And on top of that,
Speaker 1: and you know, that's it's two separate stories. One is
Speaker 1: that they're you know, filing for a restraining order, and
Speaker 1: then the other one is the one that came out
Speaker 1: ESPN and to be four star Telegram our friend Clarence Hill,
Speaker 1: Kia Roberts, who's yeah, go Q cool um, Kia Roberts,
Speaker 1: who's a a big just going we're going here, a
Speaker 1: big part of this whole investigation. Uh, the only person
Speaker 1: who spoke to Tiffany Thompson in person and examine you know, directly,
Speaker 1: you know, cross examined her and checked her story out.
Speaker 1: She came back from all of that with a recommendation
Speaker 1: of no suspension. And then when you know, if you
Speaker 1: remember back to August eleventh, when we were on that
Speaker 1: conference call with the NFL's panel, which she was a
Speaker 1: part of, but she was not allowed or not invited
Speaker 1: to the meeting with Roger Goodell where discipline was settled on.
Speaker 1: And so more so than anything, the way I interpreted
Speaker 1: is that that specifically that big red flag, you know,
Speaker 1: on top of the fact that you know, Tiffany Thompson
Speaker 1: wasn't allowed at the appeal, which that standard operating procedure,
Speaker 1: but still in a case where personal testimony is basically
Speaker 1: the main evidence, Zeke's camp was obviously peeved that she
Speaker 1: couldn't be part of that, and then to later find
Speaker 1: out that the only person that has directly spoken with
Speaker 1: her wasn't a part of deciding on this, they're basically
Speaker 1: saying this is bull and not only that her recommendation
Speaker 1: of no suspension was obviously completely disregarded when they came
Speaker 1: up with a six games right exactly, and so we
Speaker 1: were talking about that right before we came on. Is
Speaker 1: you could argue that it is. And so much of
Speaker 1: this is about strategy and posturing. You know, obviously stuff
Speaker 1: like this gets leaked to the press for a reason
Speaker 1: because you're trying to put pressure on to get the
Speaker 1: result that you want. You want the public to know
Speaker 1: about these things so that you can hear this conversation
Speaker 1: and generate this buzz. That's certainly part of it. On
Speaker 1: top of that, you're sitting here, so you're trying to
Speaker 1: put pressure on them to get the decision you want.
Speaker 1: But also, as I said, I mean when you see
Speaker 1: when you see this stack of and their own language
Speaker 1: says that unfair factors working against you. They're gonna do
Speaker 1: what they can to challenge any ruling that they get
Speaker 1: that isn't a vacation of the suspension in my opinion,
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I'll be wrong, but the way that
Speaker 1: I perceive this whole thing is they're throwing the gauntlet
Speaker 1: down and saying, we're fighting this as long and as
Speaker 1: hard we have to fight it. We're not going to
Speaker 1: take anything less than zero games. See, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know if I agree completely with that. I kind
Speaker 1: of think I agree with you from the standpoint. I
Speaker 1: do believe that that filing this petition was a preemptive
Speaker 1: strike number one, because they wanted to already get it
Speaker 1: out there before. Because if you remember, in the Brady case,
Speaker 1: the NFL sued Brady back, that Brady suited the NFL,
Speaker 1: the NFL suit him back. So I think this was
Speaker 1: kind of a preemptive strike in the same kind of way.
Speaker 1: But I also think it was as you said, it's
Speaker 1: trying to put some public pressure on the NFL to say, hey,
Speaker 1: we want the public to know all these things. That
Speaker 1: kind of stack up that suggest that this was an
Speaker 1: unfair situation and an unfair ruling, So that hopefully as
Speaker 1: knowing that the NFL has a responsibility to its constituents,
Speaker 1: which are as fans, knowing that those people understand all
Speaker 1: these other factors, that now when you make your appeal ruling,
Speaker 1: it should factor that in because the people know now, right,
Speaker 1: And so I think that's more of what it is.
Speaker 1: And I would suspect and I'm interested hear what you
Speaker 1: guys think. It sounds like, Dave, you've already kind of
Speaker 1: said what you think on that. But I think that
Speaker 1: if you get if it came back to a game
Speaker 1: or two games, I wonder at least if Zeke is
Speaker 1: willing to say, Okay, I'll step back, I'll take that
Speaker 1: game or two games, get this thing over with, even
Speaker 1: though he may still maintain he did nothing wrong. Okay.
Speaker 1: And see now we've flipped from where we were a
Speaker 1: month ago, right. I was the one that was saying that,
Speaker 1: and you were saying, if you're accused of something as
Speaker 1: heinous as this and you know you didn't do it,
Speaker 1: fight it, fight it, fight it. I was saying. I
Speaker 1: was saying. We were also talking about should versus would.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, well, I think he would. Personally, if it
Speaker 1: were me, I would fight it just because I would
Speaker 1: want to regain my name. But I get what I'm
Speaker 1: thinking now is and sure, I mean, strategy is definitely
Speaker 1: part of it. But if you feel strongly enough about
Speaker 1: it to preemptively put stuff in court that and we
Speaker 1: have this on paper, I mean, I'm taking them at
Speaker 1: their word. Let's just assume this is true that the
Speaker 1: only person that inventor, that spoke to the accuser in
Speaker 1: person recommended no discipline if you have that as your
Speaker 1: trump card, and I assume. And Clarence wrote that was
Speaker 1: a big part of Jerry's confidence in this whole thing
Speaker 1: in the first place, was that this high ranking NFL
Speaker 1: official he felt confident, was going to recommend no discipline.
Speaker 1: If you've got that in your back pocket, maybe you
Speaker 1: fight it anyway because you're like, you got nothing to
Speaker 1: stand on other than what the CBA allows you to do,
Speaker 1: which obviously that is problematic, Right, that is problematic. But
Speaker 1: I guess it just depends on how strongly you feel
Speaker 1: that this whole thing isn't worth it. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: can't imagine the NFL handling this any worse than they
Speaker 1: have because when you think about how long they drew
Speaker 1: this out and then they made the decision when they did,
Speaker 1: kind of and then now trying to put some pressure
Speaker 1: that he's got to hurry up and make this decision
Speaker 1: on this appeal. I mean, you knew that Zeke was
Speaker 1: going to appeal this. They knew that for them to
Speaker 1: now kind of put pressure because the season's about to start,
Speaker 1: and this whole time that they investigated, they when they
Speaker 1: finally gave that letter to say why we suspended him,
Speaker 1: and then let left out key parts of the investigation,
Speaker 1: of the investigation that of their own investigator, They left
Speaker 1: her out, they left her recommendations out, and then now
Speaker 1: kind of want to want to force the issue because
Speaker 1: the season's about to start. We got to get this
Speaker 1: appeal process done. I mean, I give credit to Zeke's
Speaker 1: lawyers for moving quickly on this and getting a lot
Speaker 1: of information, but I mean, I just think the NFL
Speaker 1: drugged this out and then tried to kind of hope
Speaker 1: for a quick resolution. And now it's going to be
Speaker 1: a real mess because the seasons starting and he's now
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to He's probably gonna get to play
Speaker 1: this first game, because then I don't think they're anywhere
Speaker 1: close to having a decision being made that unless unless,
Speaker 1: I mean unless what you just described happens and they
Speaker 1: give him two and he decides to just take it
Speaker 1: and call it a draw, then I'm yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: he's gonna play. Yeah, I play the whole season, and
Speaker 1: we'll be talking about this in February. That's honestly where
Speaker 1: I think this is going. Yeah, because I honestly I
Speaker 1: don't think the NFL. I don't. It's hard for the
Speaker 1: NFL to make a to now make a ruling that
Speaker 1: decreases it significantly. They knew all They've said, they knew
Speaker 1: all this information. Like that's what came out this morning.
Speaker 1: There was a report that said and the NFL said
Speaker 1: in response to all this that they knew this information.
Speaker 1: It was in a situation where the recommendations of the
Speaker 1: investigator were held from the commissioner. The commissioner was well
Speaker 1: aware of what the investigator recommended, So without any new
Speaker 1: information to go from six to two games or six
Speaker 1: to one games, like, how does that make sense? I
Speaker 1: think the NFL, in the same way they did with
Speaker 1: the Brady case. I think they look at it probably
Speaker 1: and say, hey, if we got to go to court,
Speaker 1: we gotta go to court. And what they're still going
Speaker 1: to use as their trump card is we collectively bargain this, guys.
Speaker 1: And because we collectively bargain it, the Commissioner has full
Speaker 1: right and authority to be able to come to whatever
Speaker 1: conclusion he wants to come to and dole out whatever
Speaker 1: punishment he suits he seems he deems is necessary. And
Speaker 1: I don't know that the court it is necessarily going
Speaker 1: to go against that. I'm not super confident in most
Speaker 1: of what I'm saying because I'm not a lawyer. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of writing and legal jargon, and I'm a
Speaker 1: dumb sportswriter. But if there's one thing I'm really confident
Speaker 1: in is that you can't underestimate the league's desire to
Speaker 1: protect itself, protect its image to an unalarmingly stubborn degree
Speaker 1: in my opinion to where yeah, I think they'll they'll
Speaker 1: fight this as long as they have to avoid the
Speaker 1: inference that they're wrong, incompetent, whatever other charge you want
Speaker 1: to lay at their feet. They're not going to let
Speaker 1: that slide. And they're not going to be intimidated by
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones or Zeke or Tom Brady or whoever. We
Speaker 1: saw that with tom Brady. Yeah, Like, there's not a
Speaker 1: bigger name in the NFL than Tom Brady. And for
Speaker 1: them to drag that out as far as they did
Speaker 1: and to go the full length of it with it
Speaker 1: suggests to me that they're not going to be They're
Speaker 1: not going to be less prone to do that with
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott and my personal opinion, and they care more
Speaker 1: about what they look like and how they're seen than
Speaker 1: really any of the actual mechanics of this or the
Speaker 1: morality of it. That's what I think, and they so
Speaker 1: I expect them to fight it as hard and as
Speaker 1: long as they have to avoid looking stupid. Basically, this
Speaker 1: looks like the Mayweather fight to me, Mayweather and McGregor,
Speaker 1: because at first Mayweather's just kind of sitting there, he
Speaker 1: was taking the shots and he were kind of like, Hm, Wow,
Speaker 1: how's this going to go? Just kind of and then
Speaker 1: he kind of started coming back. And then about the
Speaker 1: ninth or tenth round and you kind of started to
Speaker 1: see But if it would have gone longer, you never know,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe it would have gone the other way, So
Speaker 1: right now, Zeke's coming back here, Zeke's now got some
Speaker 1: some shots. He looks like he's in sort of control
Speaker 1: of this a little bit. But the end of like
Speaker 1: you just said, the NFL's not done. No one's waving
Speaker 1: the towel quickly on this one and saying, you know,
Speaker 1: was what would have happened later? So I think that that, yeah,
Speaker 1: they he's got leverage right now and he's got a
Speaker 1: little bit of momentum, but this is back and forth
Speaker 1: in the NFL's got something in their backpack. And then
Speaker 1: you go back to the whole case about Josh Brown
Speaker 1: and what happened to him and with him admitting what
Speaker 1: he did and he only gets a one game suspension,
Speaker 1: and you compare it to a sequel this whole deal,
Speaker 1: Like you guys have been saying, they can't not fight
Speaker 1: this because then again they look like they really messed
Speaker 1: up and all that. But regardless of everything is whether
Speaker 1: can play the first week or not, it's still going
Speaker 1: to affect the team somehow because they're having to make
Speaker 1: cuts this Saturday tomorrow, so their cuts are gonna be
Speaker 1: based on you know, they still don't know what the
Speaker 1: outcome is gonna be and they still have to be
Speaker 1: able to cover that whole and depth. It's a totally
Speaker 1: valid point. This is just my opinion, and there's I
Speaker 1: think you're right, and this isn't over by a long shot.
Speaker 1: But I'm more confident than I ever have been that
Speaker 1: he's he's playing. I agree with and so I don't
Speaker 1: even think there's this gray area where you got it like, well,
Speaker 1: how long is it going to be on the team,
Speaker 1: how long do we have to suspend him? Who do
Speaker 1: we keep? Who we cut? That's I don't even consider
Speaker 1: that an issue because I don't think the league is
Speaker 1: going to give them a satisfactory answer to the point
Speaker 1: where they won't push this thing through to court. And
Speaker 1: therefore I expect him to be on the fifty three
Speaker 1: at this point in time, and so whoever you're getting
Speaker 1: rid of to make that work do it. But I
Speaker 1: don't even think of it as being that ambiggest because
Speaker 1: that's how strongly that I view that restraint, that everything
Speaker 1: Zeke's camp has done in the last twenty four hours,
Speaker 1: I view it as a very strong statement that they're
Speaker 1: intent on him playing. This is a huge story in
Speaker 1: all of sports, and you think about what drives the
Speaker 1: NFL the most when it comes to money, Like, what's
Speaker 1: the biggest thing they've got financially that puts money in
Speaker 1: their pockets? TV? Okay, why do people watch? Why do
Speaker 1: you think people watched the games as much as they do?
Speaker 1: I mean there's interest in the league, fantasy football, fantasy football?
Speaker 1: Who's the number one player that that could be? Seventy
Speaker 1: five percent of the interactions that I get on a
Speaker 1: daily basis about Zeke are more so from fantasy is
Speaker 1: easily a top three pick. Yeah, without the suspension, he
Speaker 1: is easily top three pick. And you're one and two
Speaker 1: picks are not doing anything? Right? Are not your top three?
Speaker 1: Two of the top because it can vary, I think
Speaker 1: those three y but yeah, two of your top three
Speaker 1: guys depending on your league, are there's a big clouds
Speaker 1: a big cloud, right? Yeah? So is there a cloud
Speaker 1: around Bell? Didn't he He hasn't reported yet? Hasn't he
Speaker 1: apos report today? He reported reports? So he's supposed to
Speaker 1: have if he has reported. Your theory on that, if
Speaker 1: you missed all the camps. I don't mess with guys
Speaker 1: that missed all the camp just my thing because I've
Speaker 1: seen too many of them end up with hamstring or whatever.
Speaker 1: Don't make me talk about fantasy football, all right. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying I sa away from those guys. But you're right,
Speaker 1: there's a big cloud. So yeah, just saying that this
Speaker 1: isn't a Dallas thing and the Giants. It's not just
Speaker 1: Giants and Cowboys looking at this. There's there's a guy
Speaker 1: in Sacramento, California, right now who's got a fantasy league
Speaker 1: and he's got the number one pick. You know, unless
Speaker 1: they're unless some people have already done it seventy seventy
Speaker 1: five to ninety five percent, and fantasy football players have
Speaker 1: already drafted. And that's why I think one of the
Speaker 1: first three responses to Schefter's tweet about the I keep
Speaker 1: wanting to call it a suit. It's not a suit,
Speaker 1: but the restraining order. You know, he posted the PDF
Speaker 1: of this thing that they sent into the court. The
Speaker 1: third guy to respond is like, fantasy bargain, baby, I
Speaker 1: got him in the third round. And there we go that.
Speaker 1: I was just about to say that there are a
Speaker 1: ton of people out there that took a flyer and
Speaker 1: said in the second in the third round, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take a gamble that he's ready to play, or that
Speaker 1: he doesn't play and doesn't miss six games. I'm one
Speaker 1: of those people that are now sitting there looking like, man,
Speaker 1: take this thing the court, take it to court. I
Speaker 1: wanted him playing a nerve. I'm just saying, like, there
Speaker 1: are a bunch of people out there like that. You're right, Nick,
Speaker 1: that drives a lot of the interest around the NFL
Speaker 1: is fantasy football, and so there are a bunch of
Speaker 1: people who are sitting with interest, right, you know, the
Speaker 1: not only fantasy football, but betting them. Right, you can
Speaker 1: bind those two audiences. Yeah, buddy, what do you say
Speaker 1: is that? Is that sixty five seventy What do you
Speaker 1: think that sixty five seventy percent of your of your
Speaker 1: watching fan base is either betting or playing fantasy football?
Speaker 1: Would you guess the amount of people who are like
Speaker 1: seriously more invested in the NFL and like live and
Speaker 1: die with it with having no money on the line,
Speaker 1: is like fewer than fifteen percent? Yeah, like getting which
Speaker 1: I would argue though, like that fifteen percent are the
Speaker 1: people that listen to our shows and go to our website.
Speaker 1: I mean, like we they're just hardcore diehards. We deal
Speaker 1: in diehards, but seventy five to ninety percent of just
Speaker 1: the average league fan base, the three hundred million people
Speaker 1: that watch the NFL every year, the investment pority of
Speaker 1: those people have money invested Monday Monday night football games.
Speaker 1: The at ups have really been horrible lately. I mean
Speaker 1: the last couple of years that they don't really have
Speaker 1: great matchups. But you've probably got a fantasy player on
Speaker 1: their receiver and you're down by twelve points and you
Speaker 1: you want him, just just throw the ball to Julio Jones.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's all I care. But I don't care
Speaker 1: who wins or whatever. Ye people, people, a lot of
Speaker 1: the betters put their money on that last game just
Speaker 1: because it's something to watch. Let's go ahead and take
Speaker 1: our first break. When we come back, we will have
Speaker 1: more talk. We'll have a little bit more well and
Speaker 1: get to maybe on this topic, but we'll definitely move
Speaker 1: on to talk a little bit about even though the
Speaker 1: Cowboys didn't play the Texans last night, we want to
Speaker 1: throw out some names and some guys that could have
Speaker 1: used that game, players that might be on the bubble
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Speaker 1: Back to the Break, Welcome back. It's the second segment
Speaker 1: of the Break. We were locking the st WBC mortgage
Speaker 1: studios at the Star. We're heading into week one of
Speaker 1: the NFL season, and I'm so excited that we're done
Speaker 1: with preseason and done with training camp and it's about
Speaker 1: time to are You're about to have an expletive in
Speaker 1: there somewhere. You kind of made like a it's okay, No,
Speaker 1: I didn't kind of made like a no, not at all. No, sorry,
Speaker 1: I was just saying that I was saying, I'm happy
Speaker 1: that we're done with preseason and training camp already. This
Speaker 1: has been the longest, seemingly longest preseason in training camp.
Speaker 1: Forty days. Yeah, it just seemed very long. Forty days
Speaker 1: from that from the time we landed in California until
Speaker 1: the last practice, which we'll call last night, forty days. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got Lucky, you got Zeke, you got Demontre, Moore, Canton.
Speaker 1: I had forgotten about Lucky, you got the Tyrone and
Speaker 1: Hitchins injuries. Like, I feel like we've played a season
Speaker 1: and this season hasn't started. It's unbelievable. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: you had this last week, which was again mother Nature.
Speaker 1: But yeah, oh and I forgot. Yeah, the Texans come
Speaker 1: in practice here and kind of figuring out whether we're
Speaker 1: going to actually have a game here, and it's just,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Just the whole thing was kind of
Speaker 1: a fitting wrap up to what has been an extremely
Speaker 1: crazy and unpredictable preseason and training camp for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: But now we get into some football and we'll head
Speaker 1: into Week one next week. Let's go ahead and move
Speaker 1: on and talk a little bit about that non game
Speaker 1: last night. The Cowboys instead of having the game because
Speaker 1: the Texans obviously had an opportunity to go home, and
Speaker 1: rightfully so, they should have gone home. At that point,
Speaker 1: they canceled the game and instead we had the telethon.
Speaker 1: But as a part of the telethon, there was also
Speaker 1: a practice for the younger guys, the guys that probably
Speaker 1: would have played, definitely would have played in that final
Speaker 1: preseason game. Talk to me, and I'll let each you
Speaker 1: guys kind of talk, but talk to me about a
Speaker 1: guy or two that you think really could have used
Speaker 1: that game, or that's sitting on the bubble that really
Speaker 1: is going to need that's gonna can garner some serious
Speaker 1: consideration as to whether he's on this team or not
Speaker 1: on this team come tomorrow. How about Selfishly, I'm really
Speaker 1: happy that they that Noah Brown didn't have to play
Speaker 1: another game because, like, because all he could do is
Speaker 1: hurt himself in my opinion, and litter either literally or figuratively.
Speaker 1: Because I think he's on the team right now, I
Speaker 1: think he played well, He's played well throughout the preseason.
Speaker 1: They put him in with the starters against the Raiders.
Speaker 1: He I think he's the sixth receiver on this team.
Speaker 1: But if he goes out and just stinks up the
Speaker 1: joint against the Texans. I don't maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe they changed the conversation. So I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you just you just stay over here and don't do
Speaker 1: anything else, don't put any There's a young player on
Speaker 1: this team that is reading these stories or listening to
Speaker 1: it in the locker room and says, you mean Zeke
Speaker 1: may not get it's suspended, like yeah, like that's awesome.
Speaker 1: And it could be Noah Brown, who would be like
Speaker 1: that's great, Buckeye. Well someone's getting cut because of this.
Speaker 1: Some player is gonna get released because Zeke is now
Speaker 1: could be on the roster because I don't think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a running back. I don't think they would
Speaker 1: do that because of all these things that are up
Speaker 1: in the air. So it's just somebody down the roster.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go lighter at linebacker. Maybe it's a Nazache,
Speaker 1: maybe it's Noah Brown, maybe it's a Marquez White. But
Speaker 1: there's somebody out there that's gonna feel the ramifications of this,
Speaker 1: and I think it could be Noah Brown. You gotta
Speaker 1: go along at running back. Maybe you're not going as
Speaker 1: long as a receiver. I don't know. You know, one
Speaker 1: of the things that's interesting to me about just a
Speaker 1: guy like Noah Brown. I wonder, I know, we're around
Speaker 1: here and so we see practice every day. I wonder
Speaker 1: if they're you know, I don't know fifteen of the
Speaker 1: thirty two teams have a Noah Brown. Yes? Or is
Speaker 1: it very common? Is Noah Brown a very common guy?
Speaker 1: A really good guy from the standpoint of a rookie,
Speaker 1: a guy that comes in his first camp and can
Speaker 1: make it, you know, make you say, wow, that was
Speaker 1: a prey the nice thing that he just did. But
Speaker 1: I'm looking at a team like the Seahawks, and they
Speaker 1: got their reports out there that that Curse who's been
Speaker 1: with them now I guess probably four years or so.
Speaker 1: I would yes, more than that, I think he's a
Speaker 1: guy that they got kind of they're waving out for
Speaker 1: from trades, and it's like, that's a Noah Brown type guy, right.
Speaker 1: Are those guys pretty plentiful so that maybe you could
Speaker 1: get a guy like Noah Brown onto your practice squad.
Speaker 1: You're saying a good player like I don't think Jermaine
Speaker 1: Curse and Noah Brown are like similar actual no no, no, no, no, no, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm saying from the standpoint of their quality of players. Right.
Speaker 1: I said that back earlier in training camp. Is you
Speaker 1: spend so much time around these guys you kind of
Speaker 1: can't see the forest for the trees, Like you really
Speaker 1: can't get them to the practice squad. You just think
Speaker 1: there's no way you can get him. Sure, but when
Speaker 1: you the day you think that's gonna happen is the
Speaker 1: day he gets snatched up when you cut him. I mean,
Speaker 1: you have to be open to that possibility. If you're
Speaker 1: gonna cut him, only one team wants has to want him, right, right,
Speaker 1: if you're absolutely if you're absolutely just dead set like
Speaker 1: we can't risk it, then the only the only thing
Speaker 1: you can do is keep him, Which you're right. I
Speaker 1: think pretty much every team has a guy like that.
Speaker 1: But I've just been not just by what I've seen,
Speaker 1: but the skill not to the point I was trying
Speaker 1: to make. He's not Jermaine Curse because Jermaine Curse isn't
Speaker 1: six two and a half two hundred and thirty pounds.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got measurables that don't come along all
Speaker 1: that often. But Jermaine Curse has actually made some plays
Speaker 1: in this like he's made some plays. Your main curse
Speaker 1: would be the hero of Super Bowl forty whatever it
Speaker 1: was forty nine. Run the ball? Had they run the
Speaker 1: ball at the one? I mean that nobody remembers that catch. Yes,
Speaker 1: no it was a it was a heck like nobody
Speaker 1: remembers that pitch. So yeah, he's great. Whatever. I just
Speaker 1: I like Noah Brown. I think he's gonna make the team. Whatever,
Speaker 1: get off my back. I think the guy that I
Speaker 1: think the guy that could have used the game. Oh
Speaker 1: and he might be okay anyways, but I think Lewis
Speaker 1: Neil a game like that where he's gonna play a lot,
Speaker 1: and he could have made a few tackles there. He
Speaker 1: could have made some sacks. Tackle behind the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: You know, there are two spots opening for the defensive line,
Speaker 1: and Taffer just doesn't feel like he wants to take
Speaker 1: one of them. So, you know, I think that there's
Speaker 1: you got to get somebody in there, Joey Ivey, Lewis Neil,
Speaker 1: because he's got position flex. I think that that, you know,
Speaker 1: he has a shot. But every guy that gets cut,
Speaker 1: I guarantee they're gonna go the you know Microsoft Excel
Speaker 1: and sort by defensive end defensive tackle, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: look at all of them, and I have a feeling
Speaker 1: that some of them are going to be better than
Speaker 1: Joey Ivy and Lewis Neil, And I think that that's
Speaker 1: a classic case where the fifty three will come out
Speaker 1: on Saturday and it'll be final for less than twenty
Speaker 1: four hours. And maybe Lewis Neil makes the team on
Speaker 1: Saturday and he's not on it by Monday morning, and
Speaker 1: every single year it will it will happen one to
Speaker 1: three guys who are not on this team now will
Speaker 1: be on the final fifty three. Sunday is a very
Speaker 1: underrated day about it's, you know things, guys that are
Speaker 1: getting claimed. Him to defensive Defensive line is a space
Speaker 1: that I'm looking at. We always say final roster, right,
Speaker 1: it's the farthest thing from it. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: want to get real meta, it's never final because how
Speaker 1: many transactions do they do during the course of the year.
Speaker 1: But back in I mean back into the D line,
Speaker 1: back into the linebacker depth chart is a place that
Speaker 1: I'm looking maybe offensive line, but I kind of doubt it.
Speaker 1: I know, I think we've had that argument before. Noah
Speaker 1: Brown Emmit Cleary, Mark Nasacha, Marquez White, Robert Blanton, Robert
Speaker 1: Blanton and uh, you know, not Tapper, He's gonna make it.
Speaker 1: But but uh, you know, Louis Neil, Joey, Iby. I
Speaker 1: mean this it's is More. Does More have something? Well,
Speaker 1: I guess no. No is Demontre Moore, guy that you
Speaker 1: think is on that bubble. You think he's clearly on
Speaker 1: the team. Well, he won't be on the team because
Speaker 1: he's suspended. Obviously, we I think we talked about this
Speaker 1: last anything with him. He is he if he was
Speaker 1: not suspended, he is a stone cold lock for me, Like,
Speaker 1: I agree with that, not even up for debate. And
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be counting the minutes until he
Speaker 1: gets back. That's how good he's been during the preseason.
Speaker 1: So he goes straight to reserve suspended. And yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I'm not one of the two Irving and More.
Speaker 1: One of them is allowed at the facility during his
Speaker 1: suspension and one of them's not, I think, But I
Speaker 1: don't remember which is which. Probably I would think More, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think too. I don't know, but either way, you'll
Speaker 1: get him back in time for week three. And I
Speaker 1: think whoever. You know they claim somebody or maybe you
Speaker 1: keep maybe you don't bother getting somebody on the defensive
Speaker 1: line because you know you're cutting Lewis Neil. When de
Speaker 1: Montremore comes back in two weeks, I mean, it's all
Speaker 1: it's all up in the air. What is the deal
Speaker 1: with Duke Thomas. He sustained the injury. He was having
Speaker 1: a great camp, having a great preseason, and then the
Speaker 1: injury comes, which is what you hate to see for
Speaker 1: young guy who's trying to make a team. This is
Speaker 1: going to be a tricky one for the cowboy because
Speaker 1: you could do an injury settlement and just let him
Speaker 1: kind of go. You pay him for however many weeks
Speaker 1: he's going to be hurt, which he's got a high
Speaker 1: ankle sprain and a sprain himcl so, but the problem
Speaker 1: about that is you do injury settlement, you're the last
Speaker 1: team that can get him back. He's got to clear
Speaker 1: through waivers and then like I think, there's like a
Speaker 1: four to six week period and then you can get
Speaker 1: him back. So that's not the route. If you like him,
Speaker 1: you could put him on injured reserve and probably just
Speaker 1: keep him there. He's not one of my guys, I'd
Speaker 1: bring back after eight weeks. You know, you can only
Speaker 1: do that twice Rico. That might happen with Rico, so
Speaker 1: I could see him going to injured reserve and just
Speaker 1: probably clearing waivers, you know, and then you've just reverts
Speaker 1: to your back to your IR and he stays there
Speaker 1: and there's no harm in that, right to me, I
Speaker 1: think that's the best cases he doesn't play full for him.
Speaker 1: I'm saying from the standpoint of the team, if you
Speaker 1: want to be if you think he's a young guy
Speaker 1: that can develop into something, then you and you want
Speaker 1: to keep him. This is your way to keep him
Speaker 1: on the roster without how to affect your roster. Right, absolutely,
Speaker 1: but I it sucks being a not great player in
Speaker 1: the NFL, like if you're expendable, and honestly, if if
Speaker 1: you know and I don't know the severe severity of
Speaker 1: Rico's concussion, maybe he does need the extra time. But again,
Speaker 1: if he's a guy that winds up on IR mainly
Speaker 1: as roster management, then he's not practicing for six to
Speaker 1: eight weeks. It's the same thing and it's effective from
Speaker 1: a team standpoint. But Duke Thomas won't be able to
Speaker 1: get better for a year and he won't be able
Speaker 1: to go somewhere else and get better, and that sucks
Speaker 1: for him, and I get why the Cowboys do it,
Speaker 1: But it also depends on how long he's gonna be injured. Yea,
Speaker 1: if this injury is gonna be I don't know how
Speaker 1: long it's gonna be up throwing out a number, so
Speaker 1: don't quote me on this, but if it's a six
Speaker 1: week injury, if you're gonna go six weeks into the
Speaker 1: season with this, then you know, maybe it is worth it,
Speaker 1: just because you know it's going to take up half
Speaker 1: to almost half, right, and high ankle sprain is one thing,
Speaker 1: but mcl sprain, I mean he might he might actually
Speaker 1: need some time with that, which in that case it's
Speaker 1: not that big of a deal. But I tend to
Speaker 1: have a more or sympathy for the struggling player who's
Speaker 1: trying to make it over the multi billion dollar corporation
Speaker 1: that's just managing its roster. Yeah, I get that, but
Speaker 1: it also I would say this though, it is a
Speaker 1: good advantage for him because I don't know that teams
Speaker 1: would be rushing out to pull him up to put
Speaker 1: him on their team. He's got, you know, an injury
Speaker 1: that's that's serious. You know, So if he stays here,
Speaker 1: he gets the rehab that he needs here, he still
Speaker 1: can be working out and getting stronger. Right, and then
Speaker 1: once you know, once you get to the offseason and
Speaker 1: he starts back into the offseason program and works toward
Speaker 1: possibly making the team next year. So it's not all
Speaker 1: bad for the player in that kind of situation, if
Speaker 1: that's what they deem true, right situation or the right
Speaker 1: way to go on this. And then in January or February,
Speaker 1: whenever the season ends whatever, not trying to say anything,
Speaker 1: but whenever the season ends, then we're like, yeah, they
Speaker 1: got Duke Thomas. He'll be back with an aber, he'll
Speaker 1: be better, he's expisode excited. And then the off season
Speaker 1: hype train continues again, and we started all over next year.
Speaker 1: There we go just something you're about to say, it
Speaker 1: might just be on the team. It's just depending on
Speaker 1: how they do it, and he might just be on
Speaker 1: their ire. And then he's just he's yeah. And that's
Speaker 1: also the question I was going to ask too, is
Speaker 1: let's assume that that they do decide that this injury
Speaker 1: is not a long term win and because of what
Speaker 1: he's done so far that they wanted just making a
Speaker 1: part of the team. Does that mean Mark was White
Speaker 1: is now out of the picture or do they keep
Speaker 1: Can they have do that room for Mark Quez? White
Speaker 1: makes the team? Okay? I mean, but I think he
Speaker 1: makes the team because Duke is in. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: I thought Duke's spend better. But I think Mark Quez
Speaker 1: is gonna make it. M The only reason he wouldn't
Speaker 1: is if they decide that Robert Blanton needs to be
Speaker 1: on the team right now for special teams purposes and
Speaker 1: all that. But I I always forget about him. I
Speaker 1: think seven cornerbacks, they would go seven cornerbacks. That would
Speaker 1: only be six. I think it's just six? Am I
Speaker 1: counting wrong? Yeah? Ten guys Anthony Brown, three, Rick carrolwn
Speaker 1: Lewis Scandrick, Duke Thomas and Mark was White. We're talking
Speaker 1: about a situation where Duke Thomas Thomas is not. But
Speaker 1: that's why I was just asking that. My first question was,
Speaker 1: I thought you were saying that what if they decided
Speaker 1: they just wanted to go ahead and put him on
Speaker 1: the roster. No, no, no, that's not what I say.
Speaker 1: You wave him injured he reverts to your ir he
Speaker 1: stays here, he rehabs, he does things. When the season's over,
Speaker 1: he's on your team, just like if another guy gets
Speaker 1: hurt and he's on injured reserve for the year. Right,
Speaker 1: I got he's on your team. I thought you were saying,
Speaker 1: or the other option, just make him put him on
Speaker 1: the roster. No, okay, I got you. You don't think this,
Speaker 1: and you think this injury is enough to where they
Speaker 1: can't just put him on the roster. Yeah. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: he's not good enough to just do that. If he
Speaker 1: was Patrick Peterson, maybe you do that. Yeah. Not. So
Speaker 1: have we heard anything about a timetable on how long
Speaker 1: he's gonna be out? Sprain MCL and I'm frain MCL
Speaker 1: has always been four to six. High ankle sprain can
Speaker 1: be anywhere between one week and a year, So I
Speaker 1: don't I don't really know. And that's that seems to
Speaker 1: be the going thing that comes to high ankle sprains.
Speaker 1: He's just never know. I've seen Patrick Crayton get a
Speaker 1: high ankle sprain on Sunday, play on the Thanksgiving Day
Speaker 1: game on Thursday. I've seen a guy get high ankle
Speaker 1: sprain Week two and it bothered him. Next year camp,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Randy Gregory, you got a high
Speaker 1: ankle sprain in his first ever game and he missed
Speaker 1: like seven weeks. So you just never know. Depends on
Speaker 1: the position and all that. But I would think I've
Speaker 1: never covered an NFL receiver, But I would think if
Speaker 1: you're a cornerback in this league and you probably would
Speaker 1: need to healthy ankles to go cover these guys, maybe
Speaker 1: I would think maybe, right, he went to Texas, so
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Speaker 1: Black in SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star and we've
Speaker 1: been talking about the fifty three man roster we had.
Speaker 1: Dave was saying how much he really believes Noah Brown
Speaker 1: makes his team, And I assume Jerry was listening to
Speaker 1: the show because Jerry just commented on our station, or
Speaker 1: may be station one to five dout three. Maybe I
Speaker 1: think Noah Brown makes the team because I go looking
Speaker 1: for information and get informed opinions. First, I kind of
Speaker 1: think the other way. I think Jary just heard Jones
Speaker 1: like that would be awesome. That would be I'm giving
Speaker 1: you a lot of credit here, that would be so cool.
Speaker 1: But Jared just basically said he thinks Noah Brown makes
Speaker 1: the fifty three. He said, yes, he thinks he's gonna
Speaker 1: make the fifty three. So your guy sounds like he's in.
Speaker 1: If that is the case, it would be the first
Speaker 1: time since twenty eleven that they bothered to carry six receivers.
Speaker 1: So make sure what you guys do your fifty three man, Hey,
Speaker 1: pump the brakes, because I mean, i'd have to imagine
Speaker 1: he's a game day and active at least to start
Speaker 1: the season out. But most of the time, I'm just
Speaker 1: really intrigued by his skill set and I think it's
Speaker 1: a smart idea to keep him around because I think
Speaker 1: he's better than Andy Jones. Yes, better than Andy Jones
Speaker 1: was at this time last year. I think he yes,
Speaker 1: because Andy Jones hit a brick wall and disappeared about
Speaker 1: halfway through camp, which no offense to him, but he
Speaker 1: kind of did the same thing again this year. And
Speaker 1: that's it's an interesting juxtaposition because the first two weeks
Speaker 1: camp it was like neck and neck, like highlight catch here,
Speaker 1: Brown here, Andy here, and like it was like, man,
Speaker 1: how are they going to decide between these two guys?
Speaker 1: And then like right around the Rams game, it started
Speaker 1: just being Noah Brown, Noah Brown, Noah Brown. Where's Andy?
Speaker 1: He's hurt? Is he still hurt? Is he back from
Speaker 1: being hurt? He's back, but now he's not making plays.
Speaker 1: And actually I meant to say, you know, I felt
Speaker 1: like we were so wrapped up in the telethon last night,
Speaker 1: and for good cause, but the practice was still pretty enlightening.
Speaker 1: Brian wrote a great notebook about it. It's on our
Speaker 1: site right now, and he was even you know, Andy
Speaker 1: dropped a wide open slant during eleven v eleven yesterday,
Speaker 1: and it's just kinda that's been a problem for him,
Speaker 1: whereas I mean, I think Noah Brown's gotten better as
Speaker 1: camp has gone on, which is impressive for a rookie.
Speaker 1: Lance Lenore there any shot. I mean, obviously he's an
Speaker 1: Ambers guy. Last night he makes another like he's made
Speaker 1: several catches, and I I said this back, you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks of maybe a week ago, that yeah,
Speaker 1: we we pound on him, and rightfully so about the
Speaker 1: you know, not catching punts like he just for some reason,
Speaker 1: she's having problems with that sometimes. But their day. I
Speaker 1: saw him a practice and he literally just stripped over himself, right.
Speaker 1: But at the wide receiver position, when he's running routes
Speaker 1: and catching passes, he's made quite a few plays, and
Speaker 1: I think quite a few plays not only in preseason games,
Speaker 1: but even down to last night. They had a really
Speaker 1: nice play there. I don't know how long the pass,
Speaker 1: it's hard to tell when you're on the field sometimes,
Speaker 1: but it was down the sideline and he caught it
Speaker 1: in the end zone over double coverage. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was a pretty remarkable throw, pretty more remarkable catch. And
Speaker 1: he's done that kind of thing throughout training camp in
Speaker 1: the preseason. Obviously, he's not gonna make this team. But
Speaker 1: I would think he's a guy that you definitely want
Speaker 1: to get onto practice squad. Right, there's awesome little hints
Speaker 1: that you can pick up if you pay attention. And
Speaker 1: last week when they were finishing well, Wow, Tuesday feels
Speaker 1: like it was a week ago, but or maybe it
Speaker 1: was Monday. Either way, when they were practicing in the Star,
Speaker 1: they were doing scout team prep work for the Giants
Speaker 1: sports centers where they're really I'm sorry, you're right, Ford Center,
Speaker 1: excuse me. And they they gave out and they do
Speaker 1: this for opponents. They gave out jerseys with thirteen on him.
Speaker 1: They're simulating Odell Beckham and what he does in the
Speaker 1: Giants offense. They gave one of those jerseys to Lance
Speaker 1: Lenore and that to me signify of all the guys
Speaker 1: they have, he most among non starters. He most represents
Speaker 1: what Beckham can do and his skill set and his
Speaker 1: speed and blah blah blah. And when you factor that
Speaker 1: in with the he's made plays, he can, he can
Speaker 1: return punts, do the imaginary quotes he is capable of
Speaker 1: apparently doing that maybe whatever. He's a versatile guy and
Speaker 1: they like his talent. I think he's a good bet
Speaker 1: to be on the practice squad if they can make him,
Speaker 1: get him there. If they can get him, he can
Speaker 1: which I'm not worried. I'm worried about not worried about it.
Speaker 1: I'm worried about Noah Brown getting to the practice squad.
Speaker 1: I'm not not worried about Lance. All right, all right, good,
Speaker 1: let's get some questions. You guys can call us numbers
Speaker 1: two one four eight seven two twenty one oh two.
Speaker 1: Again it's two one four eight seven two twenty one
Speaker 1: zero two. And we can also get questions on Twitter
Speaker 1: at Cowboys break Amber. What do we have over there?
Speaker 1: And we were talking, well, you guys were talking earlier
Speaker 1: about Louis Neil. Do you guys think that he could
Speaker 1: possibly turn into a younger version of Jack Crawford on
Speaker 1: this defensive line if he makes the roster. Jack Crawford
Speaker 1: is so big, I mean and versatile. Yeah, he's versatile.
Speaker 1: But this guy could be versatile. But he's so much size. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well no, because he doesn't he can't probably play like
Speaker 1: the one technique he can't, you know, I mean, anybody
Speaker 1: that can. This guy could go from one to three
Speaker 1: to the outside. So and he was as big as
Speaker 1: a house. So I don't Jack Crawford is I don't
Speaker 1: think he's a great comparison to Lewis Neil because of
Speaker 1: he can do more things and he can hold up
Speaker 1: a little bit more. We don't really know if Lewis
Speaker 1: Neil can kind of hold up. I don't know who
Speaker 1: I would compare Lewis Neil too, because you don't see
Speaker 1: very mean an NFL d lineman who are as short
Speaker 1: as him, and the ones that are are much bulkier.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's five eleven, two hundred and there have
Speaker 1: been seven have been bigger linebackers in the league than him.
Speaker 1: I mean you walk around, you walk around here, and
Speaker 1: you were around NFL players, and I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, you're like this dude, is he's a football player,
Speaker 1: like and this is I'm not trying to knock Lewis Neil,
Speaker 1: but and if he's playing linebacker, you'd probably say, Okay,
Speaker 1: he's a nice sized linebacker. He's just he's playing defensive line.
Speaker 1: He is not physically awe inspiring the way that you know,
Speaker 1: like a DeMarcus Lawrence or you know who Dez Bryant.
Speaker 1: You're just like, whoa Lewis Neil, You're like, yeah, he
Speaker 1: looks like a fairly normal looking person all things considered.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I think he's got a good bet
Speaker 1: to make the team, but I don't Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: But he's also that guy that that's getting a spot,
Speaker 1: and when these other guys that are on suspension are
Speaker 1: coming back, he's probably going to be one of the
Speaker 1: guys that's on the bubble. I think. Luckily for them,
Speaker 1: I think that plays in their favor because he's a
Speaker 1: guy that I think might clear waivers because again he's
Speaker 1: he's not too too impressive. I mean, his tape's good,
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't be surprised if they could get him
Speaker 1: onto their practice squad. Because you've got two guys that
Speaker 1: are suspended at that position, I think that you only
Speaker 1: really keep eight. I mean, I think whoever makes the
Speaker 1: team will probably be active. I can't imagine going nine
Speaker 1: right now and having one of those guys inactive. So
Speaker 1: you need to keep eight players that are going to
Speaker 1: play for you. So I think that that being said,
Speaker 1: there's probably a better defensive end slash tackle that as
Speaker 1: on the waiver wire than Lewis Neil. I agree with that,
Speaker 1: so there's a chance he might be one of those
Speaker 1: guys that makes it to the initial cut. But yeah,
Speaker 1: and if I remember correctly, Jack Crawford was a guy
Speaker 1: that they may be brought in the day after the cuts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got him from Oakland. I think what was that
Speaker 1: have been twenty fifteen or fourteen? I think yeah, because
Speaker 1: he went to London. Yes, yeah, yeah, I think it
Speaker 1: was right then I could Lewis and I could see
Speaker 1: a scenario where Lewis Neal makes the fifty three on Saturday,
Speaker 1: gets cut on Sunday, and is still here on Monday
Speaker 1: as part of the practice squad. And that happens every
Speaker 1: year the week That's how this weekend goes, right, he
Speaker 1: got it would be much better for him if it's
Speaker 1: Tuesday speaking be on the monster by Tuesday he makes
Speaker 1: a game check. Yeah, could have a great Wednesday. Point.
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's take a phone call from Gerald
Speaker 1: and Baton Rouge? Gerald, what up Aaton Rouge? What up?
Speaker 1: Hey was going on? How you doing? No? Pretty good?
Speaker 1: I'm going to first of all say blessing to everybody
Speaker 1: in South Houston. Hope they can get back together and
Speaker 1: get get things in order. Thank you. My question is,
Speaker 1: you know, being that Cooper Rush Dunn a lot, but
Speaker 1: over the preseason and Kevin he probably done a little
Speaker 1: more than killing more. Would it be too much to,
Speaker 1: you know, bring him to the practice squad instead of
Speaker 1: putting him on a regular fifty three and save that
Speaker 1: roster spot for something that we really need, like like
Speaker 1: you said, another defensive vironment or another linebacker. What's another cornerback?
Speaker 1: And that's my real question. I ain't up and listen
Speaker 1: to you guys, all right, thanks, just I don't know
Speaker 1: if he has a full understanding of how that works.
Speaker 1: And then I think ideally if you could guarantee the
Speaker 1: Cowboys that Cooper Rush makes it to the practice quad,
Speaker 1: they would do it. Explain that for other people because
Speaker 1: I've I've gotten a couple of questions on Twitter that
Speaker 1: made me think that people don't understand he was talking
Speaker 1: about he was talking about Cooper Rush. I thought he
Speaker 1: was talking about Kellen mar I thought he was talking
Speaker 1: about Cooper. It sounded I thought he meant Callen Mark.
Speaker 1: But let's talk about we can talk about both scenarios.
Speaker 1: Talk about it first, kind of what you release a player?
Speaker 1: You release all of these players thirty seven guys are
Speaker 1: going to get released or they're going to get removed
Speaker 1: from the roster one way or another. They either they
Speaker 1: go to suspension, they go to they injured, reserve, waived, injured,
Speaker 1: you know what other kind of lists, retirement, who knows,
Speaker 1: or just outright cut, just cut. Thirty seven guys are
Speaker 1: going to remove from getting removed from the roster. They're
Speaker 1: going to clear waivers. They go through the waiver process.
Speaker 1: It takes twenty four hours. That's why other teams start
Speaker 1: taking these players. If you don't know, that means it's
Speaker 1: literally just an order. It's the same draft order. It's
Speaker 1: the same order as the draft all thirty two teams.
Speaker 1: If you have not accrued four NFL seasons, you have
Speaker 1: to go through this waiver and a team can just
Speaker 1: claim you. So if the Jets want you and they're
Speaker 1: the first team to put in a claim, that's where
Speaker 1: you go. You don't have a say in it. You're
Speaker 1: a Jet. If the Cowboys are the first team to
Speaker 1: put an acclaim on you all the way back at
Speaker 1: twenty eight, you're a Cowboy and you don't have any
Speaker 1: say in it, and that's where you go. Only veterans
Speaker 1: become pure free agency. So Cooper Rushes, if he gets released,
Speaker 1: then teams are going to look at it and go,
Speaker 1: is he better than our quarterback? He's done some good
Speaker 1: things than our backup, so you know, they could probably
Speaker 1: sign him to the roster and so he doesn't clear
Speaker 1: the waivers. Kellen Moore same thing now. He I don't
Speaker 1: think he's got four crude seasons there. He's been around,
Speaker 1: still practice squad eligs, still eligible for the practice squad.
Speaker 1: He'd have to clear through waivers. I think you have
Speaker 1: a better chance for him to clear waivers. So if
Speaker 1: you're going to cut one of your quarterbacks and put
Speaker 1: him on the practice squad, I think Kellen Moore is
Speaker 1: a better candidate for that because Scott Lenahant has been
Speaker 1: the biggest cheerleader for him, and I don't know who
Speaker 1: else has been. You know, he's been on the practice
Speaker 1: squad for years in Detroit and no one got him,
Speaker 1: no one poached him. So I don't know if anyone
Speaker 1: really has any interest. I have to believe at least
Speaker 1: a handful of teams would put an acclaim on Cooper
Speaker 1: rush if not, if not half to think about all
Speaker 1: the teams that are strap for I mean for Kellen Moore,
Speaker 1: though none I don't think I like that idea. Put
Speaker 1: him Kellen Moore. Yeah, I think I think I can
Speaker 1: speak for all four of us that we all like
Speaker 1: that idea and can help. You can still help Dak,
Speaker 1: You can help any of these young guys here on
Speaker 1: game day and do the things you need to do
Speaker 1: run scout team. So let me bring that around, because
Speaker 1: it's the thing I always say is I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to tell you what I would do. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: tell you what I think they're going to do. I
Speaker 1: would still at this point, whether you agree with it
Speaker 1: or not, be fairly surprised if Kellen Moore's cut. I
Speaker 1: agree with you. I think they're going to roll with
Speaker 1: three whatever, whatever reasoning, whatever you want to say, however
Speaker 1: much it might aggravate you, That's what I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna do. And if they don't, and maybe this whole
Speaker 1: thing with Zeke where we it looks like he's gonna
Speaker 1: be on the fifty three, maybe that kind of forces
Speaker 1: their hand. If they don't keep Kellen Moore, I think
Speaker 1: it's because they had a long, hard conversation about it
Speaker 1: today and tomorrow. Like I that'll be the last spot
Speaker 1: that they make a move if they decide to. I
Speaker 1: really think that it would. It would be a tough
Speaker 1: conversation for them to just know this. When we do this,
Speaker 1: the thing in the studio with Brian's gonna be up
Speaker 1: at the board and we're gonna be talking about it.
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore is gonna get that little dot whatever that
Speaker 1: they're gonna push, and he will make the team. But
Speaker 1: that's only because you know, that's just because of what
Speaker 1: we think is going to happen. I know I'll fight
Speaker 1: as long as we have time for it that he
Speaker 1: shouldn't be He should not be on this roster, should
Speaker 1: be And that's gonna be a big distinction. Are you
Speaker 1: guys doing this based upon what you think they're gonna do,
Speaker 1: or are you doing this basis on this is your
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster. I think we have to do
Speaker 1: it based on what we think they're going to do,
Speaker 1: because that's I mean, it would have different you know,
Speaker 1: who care? Who cares about what I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: bring or what I think they should do, because I
Speaker 1: don't make that call right but I would be he
Speaker 1: would kill him. Moore would be a surprise cut for me,
Speaker 1: even though I personally would cut him if it were
Speaker 1: up to me. I don't think they will all right.
Speaker 1: Let's second of the question from Twitter, any timetable for
Speaker 1: Cheeto and Jordan Lewis returns. What are your y'alls estimate?
Speaker 1: Asked to where when we will be seeing them playing
Speaker 1: another thing lost in the shuffle. They did practice last night.
Speaker 1: They had a full I mean it was padded and everything.
Speaker 1: It wasn't Did they practice fully well? I meant the team,
Speaker 1: but oh, Cheto Bay and Xavier Woods both and Ryan
Speaker 1: Switzer for that matter, all did real deal practice, which
Speaker 1: is a great sign for them. Jordan Lewis suited up
Speaker 1: and did a few things, but he's still not doing
Speaker 1: the competitive He didn't do one on ones, he didn't
Speaker 1: do full team, so he I mean, I gotta consider
Speaker 1: him a week one inactive. I would see. I would
Speaker 1: consider him to be inactive until somebody gets hurt or
Speaker 1: somebody's forced into Yeah. I just don't see unless he's
Speaker 1: gonna go on in prag when he finally does return
Speaker 1: to practice, I don't think him's just gonna be lighting
Speaker 1: it up where he's just gonna all of a sudden
Speaker 1: be you know, active over the guys that have been
Speaker 1: on the fifty three or on the forty six. Can
Speaker 1: he can a guy like him that's a rookie work
Speaker 1: his way on to special teams once you get to
Speaker 1: that point, like let's assume that he's not really healthy
Speaker 1: to do a lot until to do all of that
Speaker 1: until next week. Let's say if he's just able to
Speaker 1: do it at that point, kind of already know what
Speaker 1: they want on special teams. I don't think he can
Speaker 1: show the coaches yet what he can do on special teams.
Speaker 1: So is it tough for him to be it because
Speaker 1: that's the way that he could get active, is if
Speaker 1: he can play special teams. But I don't know if
Speaker 1: he has the time to show them then at this
Speaker 1: point of the season. You're right, I mean, now, as
Speaker 1: a cornerback, you can be one of those guys that
Speaker 1: that that you know, blocks the gunner. But I think
Speaker 1: that he's gonna need and they happen, that happens. Injuries
Speaker 1: will definitely happen here at cornerback, and so he'll get
Speaker 1: an opportunity. It's just that I don't I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: see him just whenever he's healthy, he's ready to go
Speaker 1: because he hasn't proven special teams wise, and that he
Speaker 1: can play this league. Get yeah, well sorry, well but
Speaker 1: it is a really I mean the other three Woods, Cheeto,
Speaker 1: and Switzer. I think it's a fantastic sign that they're
Speaker 1: practicing a full ten days before the opener, which they'll
Speaker 1: have every I don't know if you can get him
Speaker 1: on the forty six, but they'll have every opportunity to
Speaker 1: at least show something before and for Cheeto and Xavier,
Speaker 1: both of them they practice for right good amount of
Speaker 1: training and that works in their favorite They're not starting
Speaker 1: from scratch like Jordan is. I can't see Woods making
Speaker 1: the forty six man roster the active game day active.
Speaker 1: I could see him being inactive for the first game.
Speaker 1: But Jock me Cheto, I think could you know, he
Speaker 1: gives you a little bit more. It's good for all
Speaker 1: three of them that they're able to work with this
Speaker 1: much time until the game. All right, that's a rap, guys.
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