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Speaker 3: Oh that is us.

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Speaker 4: Good evening, everybody, Happy fourth of July. Aaron Torres, Arnie

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Speaker 4: Spanier in for the guys, Jason Smith and his best

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Speaker 4: friend Mike Harmon right here on Fox Sports Radio we

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Speaker 4: are live at the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 3: Let me welcome.

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Speaker 4: My co host did and his anniversary today won the

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Speaker 4: only Aaron Torres.

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Speaker 3: How you doing tonight? Torres? Busy weekend of anniversaries for me, Uh,

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Speaker 3: look at you?

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Speaker 5: Wow, tonight is let's do some quick mental math here.

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Speaker 5: It is my eighth anniversary of Fox Sports Radio. It's

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Speaker 5: my work versus years eight years July fourth, twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 3: And I bet the under eight days.

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Speaker 3: Can you believe that good thing that you have no

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Speaker 3: say with the boss at all? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I was supposed to go to Summer League for Lonzo

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Speaker 5: Ball's day be you and Scott Shapiro car Old. Yes,

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Speaker 5: Scott Shapiro called me in and said, would you like

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Speaker 5: to do a show with Mike Harmon? So I sat

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Speaker 5: in for Jason Smith. The hot topic that night was

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Speaker 5: Gordon Hayward going to the Celtics.

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Speaker 4: Baby, When did you get promoted and start working with me?

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Speaker 3: Was that? It was like February of twenty eighteen. By

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Speaker 3: the way, by the way, what's that demotion?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was more of a demotion. Also, tomorrow's my

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Speaker 5: wedding anniversary, but nobody cares about that.

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Speaker 4: Which is a bigger anniversary, your Fox Sports or your

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Speaker 3: So Gordon, you've been married. How long you've been married?

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Speaker 5: July fifth, twenty nineteen. And I've told that story many

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Speaker 4: So we went ahead and we worked together. How many

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Speaker 5: You know well, I mean you did ask Ian less

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Speaker 3: So that not today, but on Sunday when we threw

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Speaker 4: Right, Well, of course they didn't even look. I'm sure

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Speaker 7: Arnie called me last week, like I think it was

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Speaker 7: He's like, all right, we need we need to do this.

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Speaker 7: I look on YouTube. I go back to his Twitter.

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Speaker 6: I went to the podcast.

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Speaker 7: Oh I spent I spent a good maybe like forty

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 6: So I just want to say I tried.

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Speaker 3: You try not. I want a whole hour tour, right,

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Speaker 5: It was like the only national interview that Bill Belichick

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Speaker 3: So I remember that.

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Speaker 4: But uh, happy Anniverse three for your wedding and for

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Speaker 5: So I mean that's kind of your job, but it's okay, no, yeah,

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Speaker 5: But yeah, you're old Arnie, Arnie, real quick, this is

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Speaker 3: I hate you, man, I mean I hate you.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's you know, I mean it must have

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Speaker 5: Oh he was a great guy.

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Speaker 3: I mean he did have a ponytail at one time.

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Speaker 3: So I did fit right in. I absolutely fit right in.

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Speaker 3: Do you still have the white wig used? Of course?

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Speaker 4: I mean, what did you think I was gonna throw

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Speaker 4: we keep it clean, all right. Look, we got a

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Speaker 4: lot to get to it. It's fourth of July. Happy

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Speaker 4: keep you busy, keep your company on this holiday. Of course,

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Speaker 4: Real simple, Twitter is the best way, Aaron underscore Torres,

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Speaker 4: I'm mistinking genius one.

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: We could try to take calls. A little nervous about that.

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Speaker 4: I used to be the king calls.

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Speaker 5: I know, you say, Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington say

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Speaker 3: Did you say that? Did our producers say that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, okay, Well I'm I used to take calls.

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Speaker 4: I used to take like over sixteen an hour. How

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Speaker 4: Wanted as many phone calls as possible, and I would just.

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Speaker 4: We didn't we didn't have as many commercials as we

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Speaker 4: If you want to get in, we could maybe try

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Speaker 4: to take calls eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox

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Speaker 4: Did you watch the Nathan's Hot Doggie. I'm always into

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Speaker 5: This is the most anti July fourth thing ever. But

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Speaker 5: I've said this on air. I find the hot dog

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Speaker 4: Thing, you know, like like it was an NFL game,

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Speaker 4: We're going down to Coney Island to cover this thing.

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Speaker 5: If Fox Sports Radio sent me to the hot dog

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Speaker 5: It's like, you know, listen, but uh but yeah, no,

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Speaker 5: Joe Chestnut is insane, Like, you know, independent of how

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Speaker 5: forty one years old. Okay, Like you said, close to

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Speaker 5: seventy one hot dogs, he fell just short of his

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Speaker 5: it's just like, I don't know. I don't have you

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Speaker 5: ever watched stuff on him, because he really does quote

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Speaker 4: And but you know, I wanted to give you a

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Speaker 3: I think I've got twenty one in six minutes. I

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think honestly, I have.

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Speaker 3: One hundred and sixty five parogis in a minute.

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Speaker 4: That's a lot. Forty five pulled pork sandwiches in ten minutes,

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Speaker 4: fifty three soft beef tacos in ten minutes, and it

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Speaker 3: I'll listen to this.

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Speaker 4: One hundred and twenty six three inch tacos in eight minutes,

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Speaker 4: fifty two small cheeseburgers in ten minutes.

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Speaker 3: This guy's an eating machine.

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Speaker 4: I mean seriously, to be able to go in and

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Speaker 6: I think of your.

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Speaker 4: Interns, you know what I mean, think of your insides.

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Speaker 4: It's horrible. It's got to be destroyed. It's crazy, you know.

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 5: It's not like he just shows up on July first

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Speaker 3: I don't think he does that anymore.

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Speaker 4: I actually heard somebody talking about this. I think like

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Speaker 4: something like that. There go, you eat Robin, right, you've

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Speaker 4: I have ten cups of Robin noodles in an under

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Speaker 4: two minutes. Wow, that's got.

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Speaker 5: A lot of sodium. I mean, you're telling me that

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Speaker 5: I have too much salt in my diet. It's a

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Speaker 5: lot of sodium from a man.

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Speaker 4: I'll give you one more eighty one waffles in eight minutes.

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Speaker 3: In eight minutes. He really he could.

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Speaker 4: He seriously, and he's got about almost fifty records here.

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Speaker 4: So it's not just hot dogs that this guy will eat.

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Speaker 4: He'll put down a lot of things out there. So

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Speaker 4: congratulations to Joey chessed up at to Mickey Soto who

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Speaker 4: so it wasn't really much of a event. By by

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Speaker 4: the way, Joey chested at the over under was seventy

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Speaker 4: were real tough on.

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Speaker 3: Him, all right.

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Speaker 4: So if you want to come on, Aaron underscore Torres,

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Speaker 4: I'm in sticking genius one.

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Speaker 3: Are you like Aaron? And you can't stomach the Nathan's

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Speaker 3: Hotdog Contest? Are you like me? And not only did

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Speaker 4: After that airon, I went upstairs and I had two

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Speaker 3: Twist Star group. What how many twinkies? I didn't have

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my wife wouldn't if she saw me eating a twinkie.

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Speaker 4: She'd rather catch me in bed with like two blods

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Speaker 3: I promise you that. Oh my god, the twinkies? What

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Speaker 3: do you hate it? You want to kill yourself? Oh?

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Speaker 3: It would it would be pure hell. I want to

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Speaker 3: get to Lebron. He's the big news today.

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Speaker 4: I really don't even know where to start about the

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Speaker 4: picture about him in the Cleveland facility, or the hat

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Speaker 4: that said welcome home, or him going to social media

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Speaker 4: saying everybody chill out. You know g D I come

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Speaker 3: So let's start at the beginning.

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Speaker 4: We know now with the new owners, Lebron's going to

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Speaker 4: Do you think he's going to be back with the Lakers.

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Speaker 4: Do you think the Lakers make a move and trade him?

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Speaker 4: There's still value out there. How many team you want

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Speaker 4: this guy? Is it just Cleveland that wants this guy?

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Speaker 4: Do you have to only trade him to Cleveland because

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Speaker 4: that's where you'd want to go. Does Lebron even want

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Speaker 4: to come back? What do you think, Aaron?

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Speaker 3: Are we doing the Lebron segment now? Yeah, we'll get

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Speaker 3: rub get right into it.

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Speaker 6: Maybe we should break.

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Speaker 3: Oh look, you guys calling the shots today.

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Speaker 6: Huh you know no, you're driving, you're driving, you're driving.

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Speaker 3: I just that's fine.

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Speaker 4: If you guys want to want to take a quick break,

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Speaker 4: come back and get into it, Aaron, we'll do that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think the boss is kind of required.

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Speaker 5: I'm not really totally sure how it works, but I

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Speaker 5: mean he did say there were less breaks back in

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Speaker 5: the day when you were hosting with Ben Franklin.

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Speaker 6: They did take sixty Yes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's in a sixty collar in an hour kind

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Speaker 3: of show. Tonight already spends.

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Speaker 4: Torres wants to probably go eat some pizza or something,

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Speaker 4: so Twinkie bro, Yes, we'll come back.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to Lebron. I do have a lot of questions.

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Speaker 4: You want to jump in, Aaron underscore, Toris, I'm stinking

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Speaker 9: your podcast.

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Speaker 3: Oh that is us, That is us. Good evening, everybody.

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Speaker 4: Hope you had a great Friday, Fourth of July aerin

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Speaker 4: Taurres Arnie Span You're in for the guys tonight Jason

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Speaker 4: Smith and his best fred Mike Harmon right here on

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Speaker 4: Fox Radio. Nobody wished you happy anniversary today it is

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Speaker 4: Aaron torres Is eight year anniversary with Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure when I started to be honest with you.

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Speaker 4: I think I started like in September of.

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Speaker 3: Like twelve or thirteen years ago. Yeah, eighteen eighteen, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: okay me. Black socks. You black socks were a big

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Speaker 3: topic your first shutting. How could they throw the World Series?

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Speaker 3: What's wrong with that? What is happen?

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Speaker 5: We've come full circle with all these guys. You know,

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Speaker 5: oh yeah, we saw whatever his faces? You know that's

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Speaker 5: a what are they?

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Speaker 3: Rtistis?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, life is a flat circle the earth. Life is

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Speaker 5: a flat Did you see the pitch he threw?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: You have to throw the pitch to make sure that

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Speaker 4: the batter doesn't offer at it, otherwise it's not going

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Speaker 4: to be considered a ball. We're talking about the investigation

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Speaker 4: going around with Luis Ortiz. We'll get to that later on.

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Speaker 4: We do have a bunch to get to though this hour.

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Speaker 4: If you want to jump in, Aaron underscore Torres, I'm its.

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Speaker 3: Stinking genius one.

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Speaker 4: So Twitter is the best way to get a hold

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Speaker 4: of us. I do want to get to the MJ

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Speaker 4: situation where he's gonna be working for NBC, And if

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Speaker 4: you still think he's got clout where people are like, well,

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Speaker 4: I've got to tune in to the pregame show.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna hear what Michael Jordan's got to say kind

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Speaker 3: of you know, kind of like what Shack and.

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Speaker 4: Kenny and those guys and Ernie have to say. Are

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Speaker 4: people gonna say, got to hear what mj has to say,

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Speaker 4: got to tune into the pregame. Does he still have cloud?

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Speaker 4: Is he gonna say anything of value to Aaron? Is

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Speaker 4: he gonna be controversial? Is he gonna let everything spill out?

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Speaker 4: I'm not so sure, but sure about that?

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Speaker 3: What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I think that's gonna be. The interesting part of it

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Speaker 5: is what is the role gonna be? Obviously he's not

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Speaker 5: gonna be announcing game, So is he gonna do like

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Speaker 5: the big sit down before the game? What does it mean?

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Speaker 5: You know, like, is he gonna be in an analyst role?

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Speaker 5: Because I think that's obviously Like why we were so

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Speaker 5: intrigued by Tom Brady was you know, is he gonna

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Speaker 5: be And I think he was. I thought Tom Brady

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Speaker 5: was fine. I didn't think he was as bad as

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Speaker 5: everybody made it out to be. But that's gonna be the.

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Speaker 3: Thing with MJ.

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Speaker 5: Is he gonna be critical? Is he even gonna be

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Speaker 5: in a role where he gives opinions? Is he just

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Speaker 5: gonna give uh? Is he just gonna do interviews? I

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Speaker 5: just think it's gonna be fascinating to see what actual

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Speaker 5: role he's put into.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm curious about his demeanor also, and I will

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Speaker 4: get into that later on because there's a lot of

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Speaker 4: different avenues to take on that.

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Speaker 3: Plus also we're gonna have a guest coming up now.

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Speaker 4: Felix Ojoe is the offensive tackle, the kid from high

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Speaker 4: school that just signed a three year guarantee to play

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Speaker 4: for Texas Tech at five point one million dollars in

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Speaker 4: nil money. That is a lot of de narrow for

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Speaker 4: a seventeen year old, right, my friend, that is that

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Speaker 4: breaks the.

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Speaker 3: Bank right now on the nil deals, right though.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a crazy story. Basically number one high school

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Speaker 5: senior going into his senior year this year. So he

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Speaker 5: just finished his junior year.

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Speaker 3: Wow, by the way.

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Speaker 5: His seventeenth birthday today, So he just committed on his

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Speaker 5: seventeenth birthday a birthday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah.

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Speaker 5: Nice little birthday for him, and so yeah, his agent,

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Speaker 5: Derek Shelby, is somebody that I've known for a while,

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Speaker 5: and I think we're gonna get Derek on here pretty

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Speaker 5: soon to kind of break down. Listen, I would have

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Speaker 5: to look into it a little bit, but I believe

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Speaker 5: let's see here accordingly, I was gonna.

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Speaker 3: Say, say go ahead, guy, well, I was gonna say,

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Speaker 3: let's go to him.

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Speaker 8: Then.

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Speaker 4: Let's a matter of fact, he's on the line from

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Speaker 4: Prestige Management. He is the agent for a Field Joe

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Speaker 4: joining us. Now it's Derek Shelby. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate you coming on the show, and how you guys

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Speaker 4: doing good?

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Speaker 7: Good?

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Speaker 3: No, thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 4: First things first, how long does it take to get

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Speaker 4: a deal like this done? A three year, five point

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Speaker 4: one million dollar deal? How long have you been working

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Speaker 4: on this?

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Speaker 8: We've been working on this bill for probably about say,

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Speaker 8: thirty thirty days, maybe forty days total. Once he done

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Speaker 8: his visit, thanks ramped up pretty quickly. I thought it

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Speaker 8: would be a major contender as long as he liked

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Speaker 8: the school. Because he had. Of course, everybody was after

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Speaker 8: him from Texas to Ohio State, Florida, Michigan. I think

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Speaker 8: he ended up with probably seventy high major offers seventy

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Speaker 8: nine wow, scholarship offers.

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Speaker 3: So, by the way, today is his seventeenth birthday, right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, just turned seventeen. Imagine being sixteen sixteen yesterday. He

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Speaker 8: turned seventeen. Today, you're six foot seven about two ninety

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Speaker 8: and you just signed the biggest guaranteed contract and college

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Speaker 8: football history.

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Speaker 6: Incredible.

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Speaker 8: Wow.

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Speaker 4: You know, I got to ask you, Derek, if you

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Speaker 4: said that he had over seventy schools after him, do

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Speaker 4: you take offers from all seventy schools?

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Speaker 3: And was Texas Tech the high this offer?

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Speaker 8: You know, good question, though you don't take offers from

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Speaker 8: seventy I told him when he got to like sixty

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Speaker 8: five or whatever it was, hey, man, you need to

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Speaker 8: cut this down, you know. So I honestly waited him

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Speaker 8: to cut it down to like five to seven schools,

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Speaker 8: and and honestly, when you cut it down to five

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Speaker 8: to seven schools, Texas Tech. But he's on that list, right,

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Speaker 8: you know, so there, I mean, Notre Dame. Everybody was

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Speaker 8: on the list, right, but Texas Tech was not on

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Speaker 8: that list. And I had seen, you know that he

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Speaker 8: went on a couple of other visits that were not

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Speaker 8: on that list. You know, he went to Colorado, he

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Speaker 8: went to another school, but hey, man, you need to

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Speaker 8: go to Love Can we see it? Because love ITCK

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Speaker 8: had been calling me, text has been calling me like, man,

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Speaker 8: we would love to have a shot at Ojo. You know,

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Speaker 8: And a lot of people realize, you know, I represent

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Speaker 8: Nigerie Kennedy, the All American softball the picture at Texas

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Speaker 8: Tech right R right, of course, you know, so I

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Speaker 8: had a relationship there and then maybe so they were

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Speaker 8: like calling me and say, can the kid come out

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Speaker 8: at least see what we have? And we've done that.

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Speaker 8: A lot of people don't realize. I mean, Techne's invested

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Speaker 8: about two hundred and fifty million in their football facility.

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Speaker 8: It's top three in America. It's unbelievable. And I think

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Speaker 8: once the kid gets there and sees what they had it,

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Speaker 8: they was really, you know, very impressed. Now keep it

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Speaker 8: not mine for sixty five to seventy scholarship offers. His

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Speaker 8: second officer he ever got was Texas Tech. They were

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Speaker 8: to offer number two. So they've been they had been

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Speaker 8: there early, you know, and they just stuck with it

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Speaker 8: and he just kept winning. You can get a shot

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Speaker 8: at the kid.

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Speaker 4: What was it that did Texas Tech give you the

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Speaker 4: most money and did you have to say, hey, this

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Speaker 4: is what it is going to take to get it done.

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Speaker 8: Well, you know what, the biggest offer ended up being

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Speaker 8: Texas Tech. And you know we didn't start at the

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Speaker 8: number we finished with. You know, but going into this thing,

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Speaker 8: my number one plan for four Feet Lift was to

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Speaker 8: find the best place where we can get to play early.

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Speaker 8: He wants to play early, and at his position, it's

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Speaker 8: hard to get that left tackle positions. I mean, that's

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Speaker 8: that's the crown jewel, right, you know. So he wanted

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Speaker 8: to play early but also be able to maximize the

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Speaker 8: most earning potential at the same time. So I knew

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Speaker 8: it'd be hard to get both, but that's what we

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Speaker 8: shot for. So when I met with Texas Tech and

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Speaker 8: met with their gms and their staff, you know, they've

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Speaker 8: mentioned what they could do it for one year. I

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Speaker 8: don't want. I want three, and I knew that would

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Speaker 8: be hard to get because no one does that in

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Speaker 8: college football because it's too risky, right, But I knew

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Speaker 8: with this family that I had, I wanted to get

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Speaker 8: this kid a secure future for him and his family.

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Speaker 8: So I want to do something that's unprecedented. So I

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Speaker 8: wanted a three year deal, give me your number for

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Speaker 8: three years, And that's kind of how it got started.

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Speaker 5: So let me ask you that, Derek, because that that

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Speaker 5: was something that jumped out to me right away. One

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Speaker 5: as much as you can share in any sport, not

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Speaker 5: just football, I mean, how often are these agreements beyond

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Speaker 5: one year but then two? I would have to assume

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Speaker 5: there has to be some sort of language because you know,

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Speaker 5: God forbid, the coach gets fired, God forbid the coach

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Speaker 5: you know, has to take a medical retirement. I mean,

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Speaker 5: how does that work? Because obviously, you know, we know,

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Speaker 5: like Arnie and I ten minutes ago, we're talking about

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Speaker 5: Lebron having a player option going into this year. So

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Speaker 5: how does that deal work? Because I would have to

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Speaker 5: assume there has to be outs God forbid, something bad happens.

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Speaker 8: Well, a good question for one very bark in between

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Speaker 8: to get any type of multi year deal said, no

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Speaker 8: one wants to do that in football. You know, they

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Speaker 8: want one year called it protects found and what the

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Speaker 8: football people will say, it also protects the kid. So

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Speaker 8: let's say you bringing a kid and you give them

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Speaker 8: you know, three hundred thousand dollars and he has a

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Speaker 8: fantastic year, he can ask for more of the following year,

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Speaker 8: you know. But also in the same token, you give

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Speaker 8: them three undred thousand dollars and he gets hurt that

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Speaker 8: he gets nothing the following year. Right, So there's risk.

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Speaker 8: There's risk on both sides in my opinion. And when

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Speaker 8: you signed with a school, you're not signing with the coach.

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Speaker 8: You're signing with the school. So the coach leaves, what

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Speaker 8: have you, It didn't really matter, you know. So of

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Speaker 8: course you want to play with the coach you signed for.

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Speaker 8: But the way we've done this deal was we're signing

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Speaker 8: for Texas Tech, and we love coach maguire anyway. He's

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Speaker 8: just a great guy and great staff and and all

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Speaker 8: these staffs were good. Texas people were fantastic, Ohio State

651
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Speaker 8: was fantastic. You know. It's just Tech is an aggressive

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Speaker 8: attail and they wanted to show the world that they

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Speaker 8: mean business.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm interested about this, and I'm not talking

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Speaker 4: about Texas Tech, and I don't want you to bring

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Speaker 4: up any school, but was anybody, for lack of better words,

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Speaker 4: extra creative with the money, anything crazy or something that

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Speaker 4: was offered to you or no, not really well, I

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Speaker 4: mean by point one, is reavy enough right, you know?

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Speaker 8: I mean that was a substantial offer. Utah came at

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Speaker 8: the last minute with a very very good offer. You know,

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Speaker 8: so every school put their best foot forward and in

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Speaker 8: the last week leading up to be you know, I

664
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Speaker 8: knew what we already had, but I still would talk

665
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Speaker 8: to all the school things, is this your best offer?

666
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 8: This is your best offer? And even throughout the process,

667
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 8: I would ask the maybe can you do two years?

668
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 8: Can you do three years? Right? And you know a

669
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 8: lot of them did not want to do that, and

670
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 8: I understand that, right, you know, so remember lots of

671
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 8: good offers. The tech offer was was really really amazing,

672
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 8: and I really wanted to have this kid have an

673
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 8: opportunity to be the biggest in history. This kid has

674
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 8: bright shoulders and you can handle it.

675
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Speaker 3: Is this the future?

676
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 8: Now?

677
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 3: Is this going to be the future? Three year deals?

678
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 8: You know what? This is the first one I think done,

679
00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 8: you know, so definitely such President Now I don't know

680
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,479
Speaker 8: if he canna bet a teacher or not. I mean

681
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 8: I think still for school they may see at a

682
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 8: little bit too risky because football is just so hard. Now.

683
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 8: You may see three year deals in other sports, right

684
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 8: maybe you know, basketball possibly and some other sports, but football,

685
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 8: I mean, you can get hurt on every play, right,

686
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 8: you know, so a lot of that can be seen

687
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 8: as a lot of risk, you know. But look at

688
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 8: my job to do as best for my client, you know.

689
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 8: So I felt like hill to get him the best

690
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 8: deal in history of the game.

691
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 3: And explain to cause I find this part fascinating.

692
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 5: You were talking about the benefit and drawback for both sides,

693
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 5: and you talked about the opportunity to play early.

694
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 3: Because I think about it, and it's kind of fascinating.

695
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 5: Right, is that if he goes to a place where

696
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 5: maybe he can't play early, then it not only hurts

697
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 5: his earning potential for his freshman year, but then also

698
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 5: his sophomore year because he didn't play. So it's basically

699
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 5: like you kind of had to find that sweet spot

700
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 5: of like you said, a spot where he can go

701
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 5: compete for the starting job right away if he's good

702
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 5: enough obviously earn it.

703
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even know where I'm going with I

704
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 3: just think it's an intro dance.

705
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 8: I know exactly where you're going and what you're saying,

706
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 8: makes sense. We keep in mind all these schools have

707
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 8: starting left.

708
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: Tackles already, sure, right, and in a lot.

709
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Speaker 8: Of cases, you know, you know, let's say, for example,

710
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Speaker 8: of a school like Texas coming off of a national

711
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 8: championship runner up, you know season, you know, they have

712
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 8: a starting left tackle. You know, if that's starting left

713
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 8: tackle is making ten dollars, I can't go in there

714
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 8: and ask them to get Phelix twelve dollars, right, because

715
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 8: he's a starting tackle. He than All American, right, and

716
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 8: he's already been there two years, you know, So the

717
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 8: roster had to match up perfectly as well to where

718
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 8: it just so happened that I believe the left tackle

719
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Speaker 8: at techn be a senior this year, this would be

720
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Speaker 8: then he'll be drafted. He's the probably first SECD around

721
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 8: draftick anyway, So that spot's going to be open now.

722
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 8: So that's why we're going to go there and get

723
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 8: a chance to compete early for that for that for

724
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Speaker 8: that position. So that everything has to line up, and

725
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 8: it's just a perfect situation, a perfect storm. And you know,

726
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 8: and when you when you deal them with those Red

727
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 8: Raiders out there, it's all about pounds this is this

728
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 8: is their professional team. You know.

729
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Derek, Right, where does all this money come from?

730
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 3: Where's all this money coming from?

731
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Speaker 8: Well, this is part of the rep share, right. So

732
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 8: with the new House settlement, the rep share, each school

733
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 8: gets about twenty pointy five million that they can spend,

734
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 8: and they they spend that money percentage wise based on sports,

735
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 8: and football always is the most Every single rule for

736
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 8: n Cuba's gonna be based about football. Period. That's what

737
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 8: carries everybody, right, you know. So this is a rep

738
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 8: share deal now pree House settlement, the numbers are coming

739
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 8: from you know, the donors and the different sponsors and

740
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 8: all that. Now you can still you will still get that, right.

741
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 8: But but the new House settlement rule, anything over six

742
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 8: hundred dollars has to be reported and approved by Deloitte,

743
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 8: which I don't know how they're gonna do that with

744
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 8: thousands and thousands of kids playing sports. How they get

745
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 8: got the time to approve a six hundred dollars deal.

746
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 8: But this is a rep share deal, so this comes

747
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 8: out of that. So that just even speaks more highly

748
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 8: because this is basically thirteen to fifteen percent of that

749
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 8: whole rapture that they're getting on one kid, right, so

750
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 8: they have to make sure it's the right type of kid,

751
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 8: you know. And when we met with them and went

752
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 8: over these numbers, you know, they asked phenomenal questions. You know,

753
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 8: James Blanchard the GMS, he's unbelievable, He's good at what

754
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 8: he does, and he's like, I need to know the

755
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 8: kid that can he handle this? If we do this,

756
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 8: can he handle it? You know? Can you handle being

757
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 8: in that locker room? But just on your shoulders? You know.

758
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 8: So for them to make this this gesture, they had

759
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 8: to fill it with the right fit too.

760
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 5: Let me ask you, though, Yeah, let me ask you this, Derek,

761
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 5: in your experiences and I know this whole nil stuff

762
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 5: is early, and I think this is what you're getting

763
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 5: to is like, you know, in the pros, it's just

764
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 5: you know, all salaries are public and it's just, hey,

765
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 5: Lebron's the best player, so he's going to make the

766
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 5: most money. But you know, you hear about locker room whatever,

767
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 5: what is it like, Like, what have your experience has

768
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 5: been like in a college locker room? Because obviously everyone's

769
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 5: gonna know what this kid's quote unquote salary is or

770
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 5: number is or whatever is it like the pros where

771
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 5: it's just hey, he's you know, he's the building block

772
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 5: that the whole team's built around, and you know he's

773
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 5: our top NFL draft you know prospects.

774
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 3: So of course he's gonna make the most way. You

775
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 3: understand the point I'm trying to get to, I'll stop that.

776
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, So in the college locker room like this, right,

777
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 8: the older guys who are also making some pretty good money,

778
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 8: they're going to test them early. You know, you got

779
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 8: a high school kid coming and making all this money,

780
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 8: who want to get tested early? You know, you know,

781
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 8: are you tough enough? Are you ready? Because they want

782
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 8: to They want him to be good. They want to

783
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 8: win the national champion. They need him to be good. Right.

784
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 8: But the good thing about Tech that he's not the

785
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 8: only millionaire in that locker room. There is multiple in

786
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 8: that locker room that already there, right, you know. So yeah,

787
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 8: even though he had the big ticket, right, you know,

788
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 8: there's other guys that that or they're making good money,

789
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 8: they're going to take them under their wings like any

790
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 8: supper classim Wood and make sure he's ready to prepare.

791
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 8: You know, so iron sharpers iron you know you know. So,

792
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 8: but when he gets in there, they're gonna try to

793
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 8: bust them up. It's like they do everybody else. Make

794
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 8: sure he's ready to come out and compete.

795
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 4: You mentioned you got Kennedy your soft softball, right, Texas

796
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 4: Tech is a softball power.

797
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 3: She got a million dollars that's got to be the

798
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 3: highest for softball. Is a mat or what?

799
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, what I have been able to do. You know,

800
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 8: when she first left Stamford and we got her to

801
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 8: Texas Tech, we we we we we've done that deal.

802
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 8: That's something I negotiated, and that's the biggest deal in

803
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 8: the sports history, you know. And now we've just done

804
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 8: it again for football, you know. So it's pretty pretty

805
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 8: awesome that. You know, me and my partner were Shot Phillips,

806
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 8: who owned Prestige Management. We own the company. We've we've

807
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 8: been able to negotiate the two biggest deals in those

808
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 8: two sports and the history of the game. So I

809
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 8: mean and and but keep in mind though we're not done.

810
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 8: I mean, we were Darius Acuff Junior, who would be

811
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 8: a top five lottery take out of Arkansas. Wow. You know,

812
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 8: we represent we represent the number one volleyball player in

813
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 8: the Country Brooklyn to lay out of Kentucky, who would

814
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 8: be the national unner Player of the Year of the

815
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 8: sophomore You know, we represent Nate Marshall, one of the

816
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 8: best adventures in football Frenshton and Michigan. We represent Dylan Bett,

817
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 8: a seven foot two, fourteen year old pena I'm out

818
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 8: of Colorado, who maybe the American whimby Wow.

819
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 3: Right wow.

820
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 8: You know, we represent Cooper Hackett, the number one off

821
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 8: at a tackle in the twenty seven class, right, you know,

822
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 8: and thought that being said, you know, you know, we

823
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 8: we're covering our races the best we can. We have softball, volleyball,

824
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 8: you know, football, basketball. You know, we kind of spread

825
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 8: it a little bit, and we want the right type

826
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 8: of kids and right type of families. We don't take.

827
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 3: Everybody, do you do weekend radio hosts. I'm just just.

828
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you guys are.

829
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 3: I actually have one last question about Felix.

830
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 5: Obviously, you know, record setting congrats to you and him,

831
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 5: but obviously, look, let's have it honest conversation here. Is

832
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 5: that I think the outside world thinks, hey, he's quote

833
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 5: unquote just taking money just because it's the best offer.

834
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 5: Do you believe that in his three years at Texas Tech,

835
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 5: they will field a team that's good enough to compete

836
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 5: at the top of college football outside of him.

837
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 8: I'll tell you this right now, Texas Tech will make

838
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 8: the College Football Playoff this year.

839
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 3: Oh wow, and they.

840
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 8: Will be a top four seed.

841
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 3: Wow. Good.

842
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 8: Yes, Texas Tech has brought in some of the Their

843
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 8: portal class coming in is off the charts. Texas Tech

844
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 8: is building a dynasty right in front of our eyes,

845
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 8: and people are starting to pay attention to it. When

846
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 8: you got when you got guys like John Sellers and

847
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 8: Cody Campbell, you know, two guys that you know. The

848
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 8: founders of Texas have legal oil, guys who are multi billionaires,

849
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 8: who are in their forties, who played football. They're coming

850
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 8: to win, and unlike some schools, they're about to put

851
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 8: the money where their mouth is. They have to. They

852
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 8: have to spend and compete. It's hard to beat Texas

853
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 8: and Ohio State and Alabama and Georgia Notre Dame in Michigan.

854
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 8: It's hard. Those guys have been winning for forty fifty years,

855
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 8: you know. But Texas committed to doing that. I mean,

856
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 8: they have a big Twulf championship for softball this year,

857
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 8: the track team won the Big Twelve Championship, the national championship.

858
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 8: I think you know they're winning all of the place.

859
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,479
Speaker 8: They're foot basketball team within the Leadiate eight this year, right,

860
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 8: you know, so they're they're they're doing this right.

861
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 3: Before we go. Could they ever overtake the popularity of

862
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 3: a Texas.

863
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 8: It's going to be always gonna be hard to beat

864
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 8: Texas because of Texas. But they're going to compete every

865
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 8: in every single sport but the best in the country.

866
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 8: And I'm telling right now Texas text will be in

867
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 8: the college football playoffs this year.

868
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 5: I'll add this too, is you know everybody talks about

869
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 5: the money.

870
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 3: I can't speak to Felix. I'm not gonna lie and

871
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 3: say I've watched him a ton.

872
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 5: I enjoyed the hell out of watching Naja Kennedy this year,

873
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 5: and that was such a fun run.

874
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 3: She was great.

875
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's like, you know, everybody the story is

876
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 5: about nil and then you're just like, oh, she's awesome

877
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 5: and really fun to watch. And I think, you know,

878
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Speaker 5: I think Arnie, you and I will probably talk about

879
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 5: this after Derek gets off. But there's all this perception

880
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 5: of well, these guys get paid now. It's like the

881
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 5: sports are still awesome. I was at the Final four.

882
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 5: It was incredible. Watching Nija Kennedy lead that team to

883
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 5: the brink of a national championship was awesome. I don't

884
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Speaker 5: want to speak for you, Arnie, but I can't wait

885
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Speaker 5: to see Felix and see what he can do with

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Speaker 5: Texas Texas.

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Speaker 8: I will tell you this. You know, a kid like Nijah,

888
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Speaker 8: for example, I swear to you that decision was not

889
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 8: based on money. Felix Ojo same thing. When the number

890
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 8: was starts offered this me or you, I'm saying hell yes.

891
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 8: When they confinished the.

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Speaker 3: Sentence, I know Arnie would say yes, right, yes.

893
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Speaker 8: You know it took Niga over a month to make

894
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 8: her decision, wow, because it wasn't about the money. Okay.

895
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Speaker 8: It took Felix over a month to get to this decision,

896
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 8: you know. And that's the credit to their parents. And

897
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 8: these kids have fantastic parents. So when we're all recruiting kids,

898
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Speaker 8: we look for that we want a certain type of

899
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 8: kid with a certain type of parent. Right, they have

900
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Speaker 8: the right expectations. These kids parents are fantastic. They're all Americans,

901
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 8: just like their kids are you know. So they were patient,

902
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 8: they research, you know, they both they make good livings,

903
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 8: and you know they wanted to do something special, but

904
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Speaker 8: they also want to make sure it was the right

905
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 8: fit for their child. And in both of these situations,

906
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 8: the child made the decision. Yep, you know, and that's

907
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 8: how it should be.

908
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 4: All Right, we love it he of course, Derek Shelby

909
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 4: agents who field. So shall we certainly appreciate each coming on.

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Speaker 3: You've been very candid. We'll have to do it again.

911
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 4: Best of luck with your other clients, and we'll certainly

912
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Speaker 4: have you on again.

913
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Speaker 8: Thank you, you have a wonderful night. Happy for it.

914
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Speaker 3: Thank you for Derek.

915
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Speaker 4: Derek shall be interesting stuff. We'll come back. Aaron, we'll

916
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Speaker 4: talk about that. Aaron Torres, Arnie Spanier and for Jason

917
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 4: Smith and Mike Harmon right here on Fox Sports Radio.

918
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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

919
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

920
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Speaker 2: pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 4: All Right, good evening, everyone, Aaron Torres, Arnie spani'er in

922
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Speaker 4: for the guys, Jason Smith and Mike Harmon here on

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Speaker 4: Fox Sports radio. Well, we're moving right along here. I

924
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Speaker 4: do want to get to Luis or Tease. Well, we

925
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 4: have time. He's the pitcher for the Washington Nationals. They

926
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Speaker 4: are going to investigate him. We'll leave it an investigation

927
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 4: right now. To gambling allegations. I guess back on June fifteenth,

928
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Speaker 4: or Teas his first pitch of the second inning, terran

929
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Speaker 4: the arose arena was not even close to.

930
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Speaker 3: The strike zone, aaron that set off.

931
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Speaker 4: An alert that was reportedly triggered by that action on

932
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Speaker 4: Ortiza's first pitch of the inning, being bet that it

933
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Speaker 4: was either going to be a ball or a hits batsman.

934
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Speaker 4: The next incident on similar action was another bad miss,

935
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Speaker 4: and that was on June twenty seventh, in the top

936
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Speaker 4: of the third inning, and he had another bad miss

937
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 4: out there. You know what they say, where there's smoke,

938
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Speaker 4: there's fire. This is not good for the gambling industry.

939
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 4: You gotta wonder here, we're investigating a couple people, how

940
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Speaker 4: many people are getting away with it that were not

941
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 4: investigating or is this just like a one or two

942
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Speaker 4: time thing?

943
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Speaker 3: What do you think? Well, it's funny, you know.

944
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Speaker 5: I was filling in with Dan Byer yesterday for Cavino

945
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 5: and Rich and we talked about this, and what I'd

946
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Speaker 5: be curious about is, obviously there was a disproportional amount

947
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 5: of money on this specific result, that a ball to

948
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Speaker 5: lead to third inning of this specific game.

949
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Speaker 3: What I'd be.

950
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Speaker 5: Curious about is how much is regularly bet right on

951
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 5: that type of hypothetical and then how much was bet

952
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 5: on this? You know, because I was telling Dan, I

953
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Speaker 5: was like, you know, that's the kind of fun bet

954
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Speaker 5: that you're sitting in a sports book, you're with your buddies,

955
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 5: a let's put ten dollars on, you know, a ball

956
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 5: to lead the inning or strike to lead the inning.

957
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Speaker 5: It's not something that you're like, oh, I'm gonna put

958
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 5: fifty grand down on, you know. And so I'm just curious,

959
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 5: and you know, like this is a great question for

960
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Speaker 5: a Bernie Fratto or a Todd Furman, like how much

961
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 5: money and how many spots would have to be wagered,

962
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 5: and how different it is than the normal wager on

963
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 5: that specific situation, Cause it's just, you know, one pitch

964
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Speaker 5: in one of one hundred and sixty two Major League

965
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Speaker 5: Baseball games doesn't raise a red flag. It's the amount

966
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Speaker 5: of money that was bet on it. So I find

967
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Speaker 5: it fascinating and it's crazy. But I'll also say this,

968
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Speaker 5: those integrity firms, they know what the heck they're doing.

969
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, you're right about that. What set

970
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Speaker 4: the alarm off, the alert off was the amount of

971
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Speaker 4: money that was bet on it. But that pitch was

972
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Speaker 4: way out of the strike zone. You got to put

973
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Speaker 4: it way out there so the batter doesn't swing at

974
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Speaker 4: it or attempt to swing at it. Yep, it's got

975
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Speaker 4: to be something so just egregious that nobody's gonna go

976
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Speaker 4: ahead and offer it that pitch. That's exactly what happened.

977
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Speaker 4: You think this goes on a lot. You think this

978
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 4: is kind of going under the radar or we're catching

979
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Speaker 4: everybody out there.

980
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Speaker 5: I really believe, and maybe it's maybe I'm dumb for

981
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 5: saying this. I think these integrity firms are so good

982
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Speaker 5: and you know, like I know, you have Todd Furman

983
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Speaker 5: on your show every Sunday, right he says that actually,

984
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 5: like legal sports betting is actually you know, like like

985
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Speaker 5: there's less sketchy stuff going on now that it's legalized,

986
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Speaker 5: because you have all these integrity firms that are following it.

987
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 5: You know, as opposed to if it's underground, if it's this,

988
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Speaker 5: if it's that, I actually don't think that a lot

989
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 5: of stuff is happening and going unnoticed, because I mean, listen, Arnie,

990
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 5: how many I mean, Malik Beasley, Johntay Porter, Luis Ortie.

991
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Speaker 5: I mean we've had you know, seven eight of these

992
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Speaker 5: situations already, Calvin Ridley, on and on, and it's just like,

993
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Speaker 5: I actually don't think because I think that they're so

994
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Speaker 5: good at catching it and red flagging anything that's suspicious

995
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Speaker 5: that I actually don't think it's happening much more than

996
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Speaker 5: it's probably being caught.

997
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Speaker 3: Do we have too many prop bets?

998
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 4: I didn't even know you could bet on what the

999
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 4: first pitch of an inning is gonna be.

1000
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Speaker 3: In't that a little too much? I mean, let's be honest.

1001
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 4: Okay, it used to be you bet the game, the line,

1002
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 4: and you bet the over under.

1003
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Speaker 3: Then we started breaking it down in.

1004
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 4: The quarters, first quarter of halftime, halftimeline, second half line.

1005
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 4: Then we started putting passing yards, rushing yards, receiving yards.

1006
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 4: Now it's out of hand, I mean, betting first pitch and.

1007
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Speaker 3: All kinds of prop bets. Has it gotten too out

1008
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Speaker 3: of hand.

1009
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Speaker 8: What.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard a few people reference that. I don't

1011
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Speaker 3: think so.

1012
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Speaker 5: I think you're a professional athlete making a lot of money,

1013
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 5: be responsible, you know.

1014
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Speaker 3: It's it's it's like anything else.

1015
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 5: It's like, are there too many liquors because somebody you

1016
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 5: know got sick and puked all over themselves.

1017
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Speaker 3: It's like, not just be responsible and don't be a jerk,

1018
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 3: you know.

1019
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Speaker 5: And I think that to me, I don't think it's

1020
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Speaker 5: on the gaming industry to say we have too much

1021
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 5: because a couple athletes are getting selfish. And by the way,

1022
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Speaker 5: and I know you know this, and I know the

1023
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 5: audience knows this, but these guys get so much training

1024
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 5: on what they can and cannot do. If these guys,

1025
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Speaker 5: whether it's a John Tay Porter, whatever, gets suspended for

1026
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Speaker 5: the rest of their careers, whatever, I have zero sympathy

1027
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 5: because you know what you're signing up for. You know

1028
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 5: the ramifications of getting caught and how do they get

1029
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 5: in that situation?

1030
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Speaker 8: Though?

1031
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Speaker 3: Did they gamble and lose money? Did they take a bribe?

1032
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Speaker 4: If it's true, I mean, how much money can they

1033
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Speaker 4: take a bribe for? After the salary in Major League Bass?

1034
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Speaker 5: Actually, well, really quick apparently Malik Beasley reportedly had some

1035
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 5: pretty major money problems and that was what led to it.

1036
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Speaker 5: I can't speak to this the we SORTI situation, although

1037
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Speaker 5: I know we'll get more information in the coming days.

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Speaker 4: All right, Wow, we're just flying by flying two hours

1039
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Speaker 4: or in the books, we're halfway through the Power hours

1040
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Speaker 4: coming up next. Remember we got a bonus hour too,

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Speaker 4: So if you want to get in Aaron underscore Torres,

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Speaker 4: I'm its thinking genius one. Aaron Torres already Spaniard for

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