WEBVTT - "FEELING THORNY" w/ PAGET BREWSTER 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:06.560 Hi you guys, it's art. Oh my goodness. We saved 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:10.440 one of the best ones for a little bit later 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:14.040 in our Feeling Thorny Uh episodes because we knew that 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:16.440 this is when I say this is a fan favorite, 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:20.720 I do not underestimate Dr Tanna Banana. Would you agree 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:23.120 like that this is somebody that when we do live 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:28.040 shows people are clamoring to see. Yes, she is a 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:33.040 super star. I'm gonna actually quote our Patreon there the 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:37.280 Bachelor at New Zealand guys and say she's legend. She's 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:41.640 a full legend. Before we get too far into it, 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:43.440 I'm just gonna do a little bit of just a 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:46.559 little will you accept this Rose housekeeping up top. We 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:49.479 just so appreciate all of you that have gone on 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:52.760 the ride with us. Um you have. I asked for 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:55.240 some more likes on iTunes. We're trying to get to 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:58.000 a thousand. We're not now up to seven fifty four, 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:00.240 and that is a bunch more than we had a 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:02.200 couple of days ago. So again, if you haven't liked 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:05.120 to see out on iTunes, we really appreciate it. So 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:08.840 we're gonna keep putting up our Feeling Thorny episodes. We 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:13.080 have a few more, which is super fun and they've 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:17.319 been inspired. And honestly, if I stand a chance of 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:19.319 getting on the New York Times bestseller list with my 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:23.440 upcoming memoir, Little Miss Little Compton, uh, it's because of 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:27.399 you guys. You've all really risen to the challenge and 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:31.480 we appreciate that. And as such, you are all invited 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:35.119 and tell your family and friends. Everybody's invited. We are 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:42.680 doing a virtual book release party slash variety show. Um, 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:46.120 it's five dollars to come. It's live and you can 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:48.520 email us. You can sort of message us as we're going. 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:52.919 We can like respond and interact with you. It is Saturday, 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:58.760 September at five pm Pacific time. And the good thing 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:01.600 about it is with Dynasty Typewriter, which is this really 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:04.920 cool theater in Los Angeles that we did our draft 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:08.120 picks last winter for those of you who came or listen. 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:13.400 But they're they're so great and they they actually it 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:15.519 feels like even though it's it's not doesn't feel like 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.120 a zoom link. It's literally like you get a full 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:22.320 show experience. And right now we have lined up Lauren Lobkis, 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.480 who's a fan of the Bachelor and a friend of 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:28.560 the show. You might know her as the Wrong Missy 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:30.560 in the movie The Wrong Missy, Isn't She's so great 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:33.959 in that Anna she killed. She's so hilarious. That's the 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:36.920 David Spade movie that Adam Standler produced. That's on Netflix. 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:40.200 She's also on Orange, This New Black, she was in 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:44.720 Jurassic World. She was on the show Crashing. She was 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.880 on Big Bang Theory. So she is um. She and 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:50.680 I are sort of hosting it together. And then we 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:55.040 have a couple of very special guests. So far lined up, 0:02:55.080 --> 0:03:00.520 we have Mr Brian Sophie will be appearing and he 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:04.160 you might know him from our podcast, but he's also 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:07.560 the host of Throwing Shade and he's the co host 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.160 of Asked Rona with Ronna and Brian, which is a 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:13.079 brilliant podcast that I just love so much that I've 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:16.880 been on. It's hilarious. He's so freaking funny, isn't he 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.200 hand one of the funniest, truly one of the funniest. 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:25.240 He's also on One on Fox with Jennifer Jennifer. I 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:28.680 was about to say Jennifer Lawrence Jenner, Jay, Jennifer Love, 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:32.320 Jennifer Love, Hughitt, The Jennifer Lawrence of Fox Shows. But 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:36.080 another thing that we want to tell you, so we're 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:38.800 not going to We're gonna take a break so I 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:41.440 can launch my book. We're not going to be watching 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:43.720 a new show right now before Claire season. So we 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:46.920 are putting up new episodes with the feeling thorny episodes. 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:49.760 But if you're jones ing and you're like Arden, it's 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:53.880 a pandemic, I'm in trouble. The good news is any episode, 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.680 any season that we watched, it would have already aired. 0:03:56.920 --> 0:04:00.480 It would have already happened. So if you want more 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:05.360 on our Patreon, we are currently doing Bachelorette New Zealand. 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:13.080 We also have past seasons of Bachelor Australia, Bachelorette Australia, Bachelor, 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:16.520 we did Love Is Blind, We're doing Real Housewives of 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:20.560 New York and UM Bachelor in Paradise, season one and 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:25.640 two of Bachelor Australia. And what's so fun about that 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:29.880 is HBO Max actually now finally is starting to air 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.080 some of these seasons so it's easier for you to watch, 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:33.960 like on your couch. You can also watch them on 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:38.080 Bachelor archive dot com. But um, HBO Max is putting 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.200 up with Anna, and I think is the best season 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:44.000 I've ever seen of the franchise Bachelor in Paradise, Australia. 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:47.479 Season one. There's like three couples that are like Carly 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:51.280 and Evan, and we break it down every episode with 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:55.200 Brian Sofie, who's going to be at our live show 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:58.160 the book released party and it's gonna be a real party. 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.560 And if you want to listen along, you go back 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:04.919 to and the first episode is called Riding the Bipolar High. 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:10.359 What can you tell our fans about that Patreon experience, Anna, Well, one, 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.200 we were oh man, we were so young. Then when 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:16.760 we recorded, we were, yeah, like we were really truly 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:19.080 having fun. It was our first experience with like an 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:23.240 Australian series and it was truly blowing us away, Like 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:26.320 we loved it and I wish I wish to get 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:28.480 that kind of joy back in life. You know, us 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:32.160 trying to do all the accents, Brian switching his eyes closed, 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:36.480 trying to the accents. I mean, so fucking joyful. If 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:38.560 you guys are in need, this is the this is 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:42.440 the podcast equivalent of like a cocktail or a prozac 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:45.080 or a good meditation. I don't know where your sobriety 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:49.240 issues are. I'm not trying to push anything on anyone UM. 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:52.159 And in conclusion, I will say it was very fun 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:56.240 and cool about the Dynasty Typewriter book party. So we 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.440 also have another person. So we've got me Lauren Lobkiz, 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:05.080 we have uh Brian Sofie and Bachelor of the Year 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:10.080 Rob Benedict is going to come on. He's going to 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:13.440 like chat with us, tell a story, and he's going 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:18.159 to I've requested UM a specific song and I'm not 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:20.400 going to tell you what it is, but it might 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.520 be a Katy Perry cover because J J. Marine loved 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:27.120 Katy Perry and he's agreed to learn. I asked between 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:29.480 Katy Perry, my mom loved Katy Perry and she loved 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:33.080 Britney Spears. He picked Katy Perry and he is going 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:36.080 to close out the show with a Katy Perry cover. 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:38.640 There's also going to be some special surprise guests, so 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:41.840 get your tickets now is five dollars. It's on our 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:45.800 Facebook page. Literally It's a fun at five pm Pacific 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:48.599 on September twenty six. The link will be up for 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:50.600 a week, so even if you can't join live you 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.320 can enjoy it afterwards and if you they have a 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:57.320 bundle going that if you get your book through there. Um, 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:00.960 we've partnered with Skylight Books and loose Field. It's California, 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:05.279 and they're doing a thing where you can get a 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:08.240 custom signed book plate. So if you're like I want 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:11.280 to get my friend Mary a book plate for her birthday, 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:14.720 I can sign out dear Mary, happy birthday. So you 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:16.480 can order and you can tell me who to make 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:17.960 it out to. I will sign a book to you 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:20.080 or a loved one. Or if you're like art and 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:21.560 I don't want to come to your show, I just 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.960 want to book plate and I want a bag for 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:26.600 I don't even know if they have the bags left, 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:28.480 but the website we tell you for the first two 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:31.280 people who got for the price of the book, you 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.560 get a little miss Little Compton tope bag and a 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:36.520 sign book plate. Um. And then the second to fifties 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:38.440 just to sign book plate, you can go to Art 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:41.840 and Marine book dot com. It's also on our Facebook page. 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.880 But A R D E N M Y R I 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:50.000 N book dot com and uh get that there without 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:53.960 further ado. This person that we're breaking down in this 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:59.480 episode of filling Thorny is our Secretary of State. Paget Brewster. Anna, 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:03.400 this episode is fascinating. It was fascinating to hear from 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:06.120 Paget and get to know her more. We went to 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:09.320 the same high school and we tell a crazy story 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:14.960 about our art teacher that allowed nude models. And I've 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.200 never met somebody in Los Angeles. I've done this a 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.480 long time. I've never met somebody that actually almost like 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:24.600 a nineteen fifties old fashioned movie star where they're like, 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:27.120 we're gonna make you a star kid, Like she literally 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:30.040 is the only person I know that Hollywood just decided 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:33.200 they went out of their way to make her a star. 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:36.040 And it was fascinating to talk to her. Tanna, what 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:39.079 did you think that's I mean, it makes sense because 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:43.240 Paget is a star and everything about her like I 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:46.280 I mean, I was somewhat not surprised. I was like, yes, 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:48.840 makes sense. She was this beautiful young woman. She was 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:54.320 Hollywood was dying for a Paget Brewster. Yes, and Hollywood 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:56.280 was like, we know there's not gonna be another one, 0:08:56.360 --> 0:09:00.120 like this is it? And um, you know, We've got 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:02.480 in some really great responses. I love that people are 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:07.000 enjoying the feeling thorny episodes. Um, they're a little more look, 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.640 I feel like in these times like this, we have 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:12.080 our fun, crazy parties, but it's also nice just to 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:14.120 get a little bit grounded and get to know who 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:17.920 you're listening to. And we hope it makes you, guys 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:21.400 feel connected and and that you enjoy it. And we 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:25.120 can't wait to be back breaking down. Some people fall 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.880 in love in a hundred and ninety degree heat quarantined 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:31.080 in a bubble somewhere deep deep in the desert. But 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.120 we really appreciate all of your support and we hope 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:37.480 you come to our party, our book release party, um, 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:40.280 and you can message us as we're going, so like 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:42.800 we want to feel like we're at a live show 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:47.040 because we have the best live shows with you guys. Yeah, sorry, 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:49.640 coming out until please come hing out and tell your friends. 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:53.319 It doesn't matter what time zone you're in, anytime zone, okay, 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:57.000 by welcome to Will you accept this Rose a production 0:09:57.040 --> 0:10:01.240 of I Heart Radio. Oh my God, our back. We're 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:04.760 back in our safe place. 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Welcome to a very special episode of Will 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:33.640 You Expect This Rose Bonus offshoot Feeling Thorny. My name 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:36.160 is Arte Marine, and I am so happy to be 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:39.880 doing a Feeling Thorny with a very special person. She's 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:43.840 in the clubhouse today. She's looking so cute in her 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:46.960 winter where she's showing up looking so cute in her 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:50.000 jeans that cannot possibly be right? A jeans? There they are? 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:55.439 They can not? No, awesomely they right. Ladies and gentlemen. 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.599 You may know her from the will You Accept This 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:03.280 It's franchise. You may know her from Criminal Minds. You 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:06.079 may know her from another period. You may know her 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.720 from Thrilling Adventure Hour. I know her as my friends 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:16.880 Secretary of State Pageant Proston. Are you now? For those 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:18.560 of you out there who are like, wait, what is this? 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:20.880 For those of you who don't know, I have a 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:24.839 book coming out this fall and there is a link 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:29.000 up right now so you can preorder your book. And 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:32.960 the reason I'm doing this this podcast is the process 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:35.640 of writing it. It was about my my childhood and 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:38.000 growing up in my life now. But I felt like 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:40.199 it forced me to take a look at myself and 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:43.000 my adolescence and whatnot, and I it was an interesting 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:46.959 process and I wanted to get to know the people 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:50.960 that are on our podcast and here like what made 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:53.800 you you? That's why we're doing that, I see. So 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:56.280 if you're out there, you know what, please just go 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:59.040 preorder preorder the book right just go on Amazon. Can 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:02.600 I preorder Kindle Candle, A Little Miss, a Little Compton, 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:06.800 um So Paget Brewster, Hello, welcome you, and I first 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.280 of all, you're you. Are you wearing adorable jeans? You 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:12.439 say they're always from these are right age Jaggings? How 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:15.480 much do they cause? I think there are sevent Can 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:17.040 you stand up for one? Can I look at these? 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:20.760 Do you only wear right A jeans? They're so I 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.520 get the nice ones now look fake pocket, fake pocket, 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:28.199 fake fly, real pocket pocket, and they are so cute 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:32.079 they're just comfy. How many pairs do you on? Um? 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:34.559 I have three of these? Because I did? I did? 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.000 You know, sometimes I stay in them and now I'm 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.880 old and wealthy enough to donate those and get a 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.080 new pair. Do they come in like a box on 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.080 a hanger, so it's like a plastic hanger and a 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:49.040 piece of cardboard around it. Like tights are called right 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:52.120 age jagging their right A brand. Well, no, they're not 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:54.240 right A brand. They might be no nonsense. I want 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.360 to say, okay, by no non that's what I only 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:59.160 wear no nonsense socks. They're the best, so they're great. 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:02.319 I also got to tell you, staring at your beautiful lashes, 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:07.640 that you told me to get um and I had 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.840 to have it shipped to New York to my brothers, 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:12.800 and I did, and I went and got my hands 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:16.079 on it, and my I've I've got lots of compliments 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:19.360 my lashes. Now, I'm I'm a little worse for the 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:22.360 where today, but they've got they they have gotten longer. 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:29.000 You're gotten longer, got longer. I mean, how long do 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.640 you do it? Every day? I do it every day. 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:33.960 I haven't done it every day. Well, they say you 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:35.680 can do it every other day, and there are days 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:37.800 when I forget, so it probably equals out to every 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:39.320 other I gotta start doing it every day. But but 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.520 here's the thing. I've been noticing that they're curling because 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:45.040 I'm falling asleep on there so long that I'm falling 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:48.440 asleep on them, and then they're curling. So some of 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:50.160 them are straight, and then some of them are curling. 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:52.680 So it is definitely a process. How sure were they 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:56.360 to begin with? I don't remember. Honestly, I've been doing 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:58.440 this ten years. I'm gonna do it. I don't remember. 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:00.280 Did it happen right away or did to take a 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.040 couple of weeks? For me, it took nothing, happened for 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:03.800 two weeks, and then I woke up and they were long. 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:07.680 I haven't. I'm prone to getting sties, so I when 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:10.720 I've noticed my I keep threatening to grow a sty. 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:13.080 So I haven't been doing it every day. No, no no, no, no, 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:15.720 you should be careful. Yes, So I'm prone to my 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.080 Eyelid loves to grow a sty So I'm sort of 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.800 would say I've been inconsistent with it, but but it's 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:23.600 then do it, then don't then do exactly what you're doing. 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:26.600 Been in consistent, but it's been working, okay, Paget, First 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:28.840 of all, such a treat, such a joy to get 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:30.560 to know you on the podcast. Can I say, because 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:32.280 I've known you for a long time, but actually so 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.600 nice to get to know you. And here's what's interesting. 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:39.320 Paget grew up so we talked about in the eron 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:43.320 fully episode will air Pagett's after like I got shipped 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:45.280 away to boarding school because my town didn't have a 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:50.080 high school. And Paget grew up on the campus and 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:52.760 went to the school. What building did you grow up in? 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:56.040 I grew up in clay House, So this was in 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:59.240 Conquered Restachusetts. It's a school of three people in the woods. 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:01.960 My mother to out a mortgage, like a third mortgage 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:03.640 to send us. She said she was going to run 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:05.640 out of money for college, which she did. She was like, 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:07.440 you need to get a good education. I didn't get 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:10.520 a good education. I'm sending you to boarding school. Um, 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.320 you grew up in Clayhouse. That was a boys dorm. 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.440 It was a boy's nerdy person. It was at the 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:18.880 science boys dorm, I think so, yeah, because the science 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:22.120 teacher was the other apartment in the dorm. What was 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:25.160 it like growing up on the campus of a New 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:29.480 England boardings H Well, I mean it was fantastic, yeah, 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:33.760 because it was my brother and I and all of 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.160 the other faculty kids. There were a bunch of kids, 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:40.200 our ages. We were in a completely safe environment. Truly, 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:46.680 the prettiest that movie School Tie, It's so beautiful. It's 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:49.520 like a perfect campus. Around the circle in the woods 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:53.440 near Walden there's a church and a big circular the 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:56.320 dining hall, and then there's near Little Women like picture 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:58.960 Little Women, but like in this was the town where 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:02.520 little Women. Yeah, where Louise may Alcott lived. So would 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:04.800 you just go out and play with all the other kids. 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:08.000 And we had an ice skating rank, and we had 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:11.879 a library and a pond, and we had playing fields 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:14.800 in tennis courts, we had dining where you got brought 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.080 home from the hospital. That's where you know, I think. 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:20.720 Actually my dad was working for my my mother's father 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:24.959 in banking and he hated it and so once I 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:27.600 was born, my dad said to my mom, I just 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:32.560 want to teach, and my mom did too, so uh, 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:36.520 he got a job at Middlesex as an English teacher, 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.480 and then he started coaching. He was the coach for 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:45.120 hockey and soccer and crew. That mean, those are big sports. 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:52.000 And my mom, uh was the ceramics teacher. Okay, did 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:55.080 you have so many questions? Did you eat at the 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:57.760 dining hall? Yes? We did every night. No, not every 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:02.560 night because my mom started becoming a really experimental cook around. 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:05.640 I would say when I was in ten or eleven 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.360 and my brother was seven or right, was it fun 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:10.480 to eat at the dining hall? Oh? It was the best? Yeah? 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:13.959 And what way? Well, first of all, it felt like 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:16.679 if you're a little kid and you're in a uh, 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:19.800 you know, a cafeteria. It's all students. Some of them 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.280 are your babysitters, and you know all the teachers, and 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.399 you know all the other kids who are growing up 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:26.600 on the campus. So it felt like a party and 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:28.679 you get in line and you get I mean, to 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:32.920 this day, a cafeteria is so satisfying. If I love 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:35.680 a buffet, I love it like a cheap buffet. I 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:39.200 like that, like a supe plantation. I love it. I 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:41.879 want to get a bunch of little things that I 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:45.840 can I loved being able to go to the cafeteria, 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:48.600 but when we went with our parents, if we had 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:50.880 to sit with our parents, and our parents made us get, 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:52.640 you know, a bunch of vegetables that we didn't want. 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:55.760 There was actually in the dining hall at Middlesex. The 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:59.800 walls are lined with what is the senior project. But 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:02.719 when a senior graduates from Middlesex, they have to carve 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:07.119 a little um wooden plaque eight by eight inch wooden 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:09.600 plaque with a depiction of something or you know, something 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:13.159 that represents them. And those are the entire you know, 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:17.680 floor to ceiling of this very very large Hogwarts. Yeah, exactly, 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:19.280 And that is kind of what it looks like. It 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:24.520 looks like Hogwarts. There was one carved. The senior had 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:27.080 carved a brick wall with a hole in it right 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:30.239 as if the brick wall had had crumbled through, and 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:33.280 all of the faculty kids, we would throw all the 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:37.320 vegetables we didn't want into that hole. After a few 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:40.639 years they had to tear out that part of the 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:43.040 wall and dig out all the day it was discussed 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:46.320 I remember when I went to school there, and I 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:48.919 will not say her name, but there was a girl 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:51.239 who got kicked out. She was like a rich New 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:54.639 Yorker and she she went, she went nuts. She like 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:57.720 a feel like a mental break. One night and she 0:19:57.920 --> 0:19:59.720 broke out of her dorm. She was a senior and 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:05.080 I was a sophomore, and she um, she broke into 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:08.440 the main like academic building. I heardget the name of it. 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:10.600 What was that building? Whatever? The whatever, the big the 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:14.080 big main building, main administration building. And she went downstairs 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:16.879 and in all the plaques she shoved like killed bossa 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:19.760 sausage like in the holes of the plaques. We like 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:22.240 shoved all the sausages and all the holes. And then 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:26.040 she went into the girl's room and she shoved sausages 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:29.040 in all of the toilets like like like like like 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:31.760 f fulls of sausages and all the toilets and flushed 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:35.320 all the toilets, so it flooded with sausages. And the 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:38.040 holes are the plaques. And she got said she got 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:40.840 expelled m and she like wrote all the ship but 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:43.080 it was like she was I just remember her jamming 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:45.320 sausages and all the holes. If that's not the most 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:49.679 sexually repressed. I mean the Anna shocked. Ana. What are 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:55.600 your thoughts why? I think it's such an uptight place 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:58.560 and if like your she wasn't super cool, she wasn't 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:01.240 like like I'd fully fit in there. I mean, it's 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:04.639 a very preppy school, and I think I think she 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:07.680 just maybe was acting out like funk this place, but 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:12.000 she acted alonely, she did that alone. Well, that's I mean, 0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:15.520 here's the thing. I was asked to leave you in 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:18.560 my sophomore year. I was failing because I was trying 0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:21.239 to fit in. But a lot of the students and 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:23.640 I went there before you did because I'm a couple 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:26.320 of years older than you. A lot of the kids 0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:33.639 there were very, very wealthy, so South American. There were 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:38.480 kids from China and England, and it was a lot 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:43.720 of New Yorkers and their parents just their parents almost 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:45.879 had kids because they were supposed to as what I 0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:49.160 felt like, and so these kids were so they were 0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:52.640 acting out, and they were lonely and rich, and there 0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:55.480 were a lot of drugs, a lot of drinking, and 0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:58.959 sometimes these kids would a helicopter would land right in 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:00.719 the middle in front of the church, had to pick 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:02.879 up the New York kids one by one flight to 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:05.120 New York and they'd be dropped off on Sunday night. 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:08.000 We didn't know that that girl might have been just 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:11.720 that was just a desperate cry for attention from her 0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:17.359 parents for we didn't have helicopters. That's crazy. Wow, it 0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:22.080 was wild. There were the heirs of everything. I mean, 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:25.879 we huge corporations. These kids were going to school at Middlesex. 0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:29.040 I remember there were you know, because we didn't have 0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:32.760 that money. And I remember the beauty and the beauty 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:36.479 of a boarding school is like nobody knows what your 0:22:36.480 --> 0:22:39.000 house looks like, and nobody like like we all knew 0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:41.479 who all the rich people were because they only hung 0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:44.480