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And Ron Woolfley, it doesn't 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:57.200 get any better than that. 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:00.080 Leash the Fire. 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:08.360 By low Sell High words to live by twenty years ago. 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:15.280 If only we'd all bought Stock and Apple, Amazon and 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:20.440 the NFL Combine I did pull two thousand and four. 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.919 Ron Wolfley, Snarky Guy, was the first year the NFL 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.800 Combine was actually on TV. And you remember the reaction, 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:33.080 Oh you can't televise the combine the underwear Olympics. That's 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:39.120 never gonna work. Ridiculous. Hello, this year, more than fifty 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:45.640 hours of NFL network combine coverage on multiple platforms, Oh 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.880 my goodness, and all next weekend, fact Wolf, just go 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:52.960 ahead and schedule your next weekend Thursday through Sunday. Okay, 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:56.080 right there in the NFL network and streaming wherever you 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:56.440 want it. 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:57.040 You'll get it. 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:59.960 NonStop coverage of the NFL Combine after the first year 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:03.480 where it lasted one hour, one grand total of an hour, 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:06.480 and now boom, here we go with the combine El grande. 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:09.040 Paulie. You do know that I went to the very 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.639 first combine. No, yes, I did I know? You went 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:16.079 to the combine. We're in Tempee, the very first combine, 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:17.400 the very first combine. 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:18.040 Was your year? 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:21.160 Was my year coming out? It was, faul I did 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.400 not know it was nineteen eighty five, Yes, it was 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:28.000 coming out, Yes, nineteen eighty five. Yes, if memory serves, yes, 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.919 it was because it was the fall. It was the 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:33.320 spring of that year right there, and then the draft, 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:36.640 of course happened. So yes, nineteen eighty five, Pauli, I 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:39.960 was at the very first combine in Tempe, Arizona. 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:44.000 Well, it's the Big Red Rage. Our feature. Guests will 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:47.680 join us momentarily. Drew Terrell, the Cardinals passing game coordinator, 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.840 wide receivers coach, fresh off being the offensive coordinator in 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:53.120 the East West Shrine Game for the East team. We've 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.359 got plenty of questions to ask Drew. Therell coming up, 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:58.520 but first let's get into this combine. 0:02:58.120 --> 0:02:58.520 A little bit. 0:02:58.560 --> 0:02:59.840 So Well, if you've been there and done that, this 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.280 your three hundred and twenty one players. By the way, 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:05.080 do you know the school sending the most prospects to 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.079 the combine as a matter of fact, Paul, I don't 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:08.720 Michigan with eighteen? 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:13.400 Okay, there eighteen guys Michigan. What about Bama? 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:16.680 They have like ten or eleven. You dub a second 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:21.359 with thirteen. The local schools you have as four, ASU 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:25.440 and West Virginia and col all have a single play. 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:29.760 By the way, you had to throw that in West Virginia. 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:31.079 You had to throw that in. 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:33.320 Just to rub it in. Holy Cross is sending two. 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:36.440 Just to let you know, Cardinals have eleven picks in 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:38.880 this year's draft. They have six in the first ninety 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:42.880 and earlier. This week on the Red Seaver Report, Rob Frederckson, 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:45.600 former first round pick of the Raiders and former NFL 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:50.240 Combine attendee. Here he was talking just about what's at 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:51.920 stake for all the players. 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:54.000 It's the biggest job interview of your life. 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:56.080 And for these guys that are. 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:59.360 Lucky enough to be invited to the combine, this is 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.520 their chance a shine, and it's it's not just on 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:06.120 the field, but more of it is done in the 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:08.880 hotel lobby, conference rooms and in the meeting rooms with 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:13.480 the coaches and the general managers. Players, you know, going 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:16.720 in there for one on one, you know. So there's 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:19.680 a lot that goes into it from the mental aspect. 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:22.520 So it's the known versus the unknown, right you can see, 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:24.320 you can you can go ahead and you can have 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:26.640 all the data on all the measurables. Yes, but they 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:28.840 want to know about the person beyond the player. I 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:29.960 would surmise. 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:33.800 PAULI, it's so important that you go into the combine 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.360 with your eyes on the tape, if you know what 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:39.960 I mean. These guys, these scouts that go to the combine, 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:42.960 of course there's so many of them. They have watched 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:46.599 reel upon reel, well not reels. They've they've watched a 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.039 lot of tape. Let's put it that way. Maybe eighty 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:51.320 five was reel A ton of a ton of tape 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:55.160 on these guys going in, they've watched, they've seen it all. 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:59.200 You can never forget about the tape as a scout, 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:03.119 as a general manager, as a coach, you can never 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:06.880 forget about the tape. I think the approach you should 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:10.880 have going to the combine is, let it confirm what 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:15.120 you see on tape. Let it confirm that there's a 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.800 lot of guys that to go to the combine and 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:21.640 suddenly they look, Oh my goodness, they run grade forty times, 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:25.520 their vertical is incredible, they bench thirty reps, whatever it 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:28.560 may be. They do everything that is great. If it 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:32.240 doesn't add up to what you see on tape, you 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:37.000 gotta pass. And I think there's a lot of scouts 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:38.599 and a lot of jams who forget to do that. 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:41.000 All right, here's many Austin for it last year because 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:42.840 he's yet to address the media this year about the 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.200 upcoming combine in the draft, but here's what he had 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:49.320 to say. The Cardinals GM just about what's most important 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:52.920 from the talent evaluation and the player personnel aspect. 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:56.119 The most important thing is the medical evaluations and having 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:58.279 our doctors and having our trainers getting a chance to 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:01.200 examine the players and just find out where they are physically. 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.400 And really the second most important thing that I get 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:06.280 out of this is to face to FaceTime when we 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:09.560 interview with the players, both in the formal settings and 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:12.080 the informal meetings that our coaches are doing. And then 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:14.400 we'll get into the workouts as well. Those are important, 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:17.120 but I'd put the medical in the interviews up above 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:18.800 the on field workouts. 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:21.120 Very interesting because I think you can take the Cardinals 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:24.120 two third round selections last year as a case study 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:27.520 as an example of each instance. Number one, Michael Wilson 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:32.479 the Medicals three straight years at Stanford. This season was 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:35.960 ended by injury season end injuries each of three years. 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:38.560 And then you had Garrett Williams. He also was coming 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:41.800 off an ACL injury. But for Garrett Williams, remember what 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:43.400 he said at the Big Red Rage and our jim 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.760 O Mahunterro found the bite where the phone call that 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:49.600 was made from the Cardinals war room in round three 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:52.920 last year to Garrett Williams and they cited the meeting 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:56.680 that the combine the fifteen minute player interview and just 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:59.640 how they vibed, how they syncd up, how they were so. 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:02.039 In fact, I had a chance recently in an event 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:04.719 to ask Mani Aspboard and Jonathan Gannett about that, and 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.200 they said, he was the very last interview on a 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:10.880 day in Indianapolis and they were dragging they had done 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:14.119 one hundred interviews. Oh my goodness, ten twelve hours. Who's 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:17.640 the last guy. Oh, it's Garret Williams. And he comes 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:20.320 in and blew them away. They went from slumped in 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:22.120 their seat done the edge of their seat and they 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:23.840 said wow. And when he left the room after his 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.240 fifteen minutes, they looked at each other said move him 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:28.840 up the board. Yeah, And once again, poully, I'll say 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:31.040 this right now, they had the tape in their back 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:34.320 of their head too, is there interviewing this kid. They 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:37.240 didn't just move them up the board because you know, wow, 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:40.200 what a nice kid, what a great kid, what great answers? 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.400 He was good. They moved him up the board because 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:44.760 they already had the tape in their head. And I 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:47.560 think that is really what I'm talking about right here. 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:50.280 The medicals, no doubt, about it. MONI that, of course, 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:53.640 and the interviews that's great, but so much of the time, 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:57.760 and I think I think the last few years, maybe 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:02.320 the last three to five years, the NFL, this new 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:05.040 age football was coming into the National Football League, where 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:07.320 it was the spread and it was the spread, and 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.480 all of a sudden, man, you know, it's not nearly 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:13.200 as important that these guys be as physical as they 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:16.280 once were. Now it's important that they all can run. 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:20.640 And that really took over, not just not just here locally, 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:24.040 but also across the National Football League. A lot of 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:28.880 GMS forgot because the game was changing. Now the pendulum 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:32.400 is swinging back again to where you've got to blend 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:34.720 the old and the new. And you better be physical. 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:38.679 You better be physical, you better be strong, you better 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:40.840 be able to tackle, you better be able to block. 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:44.480 The line of scrimmage once again is back in vogue. 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:48.200 And because of that, Paul, I really do believe again 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:52.400 the combine. Yeah, it's important, but not as important as 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:53.040 the tape. 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:55.960 Look, the big question in the NFL right here, right 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:59.120 now is what's the future of Justin Fields. Is he 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:01.640 staying in Chicago? Are the Bears trading Moway, Are they 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:04.960 taking Caleb Williams. Even justin Fields today came and said, man, 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:08.000 I'd just like to know, you know, my future is 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:10.320 blown in the wind right now. It's tough are they 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:12.880 gonna trade me or not? And he's probably not gonna 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:14.800 know for a little while. For the Cardinals, I think 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:17.360 the big question right now is are they really going 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:20.520 to go receiver at number four? Because we have yet 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:24.800 another mock draft Daniel Jeremiah NFL dot Com two point zero, 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:27.920 and he has a Cardinals going receiver and it's not 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:29.480 even Marvin Harrison Junior. 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:30.080 That's right. 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.920 Caleb Williams number one, Drake May number two New England 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:36.199 and his mock draft is going veteran at quarterback. They 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:39.760 take Marvin Harrison Junior and Moleak Neighbors goes to the 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:40.920 Cardinals at number four. 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:43.199 Do you buy it? Ron Wilheon, Well, first of all, 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:47.719 Marvin Harrison Junior, you're telling me he's gone at number three? Right? Yes? Yes? Yes? 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.280 So you know what, Yeah, I would tend to say, 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.880 Okayleak Neighbors maybe a bit of a scratch. Some people 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:56.680 think he's a top ten talent for the most part, 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:59.559 and I certainly haven't watched all this tape on him 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:01.800 at all that I've seen some highlights of them. That's 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:04.880 what I've seen. I know he's wildly talented right now, Yeah, 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:08.080 I could possibly see that because the Arizona Cardinals, they 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:11.080 do have a need for a wide receiver. Man, that 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:13.559 the thing, the best thing you can do to help 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:16.920 Trey McBride as a tight end is get a wide 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:19.800 receiver that is a number one wide receiver, a true 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:22.920 number one wide receiver, and bring him in. So okay, 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:26.880 Mylake Neighbors explosive, no doubt about that. I love the kid. 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.959 But having said that, I certainly hope Marvin Harrison Junior 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:30.400 is there. 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:32.120 And there are plenty of mock drafts they have the 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:35.320 Cardinals taking Marvin Harrison Junior at number four overall, but 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:39.040 like Lance Zerline has Marvin Harrison Junior going number three, 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:42.679 and then the Cardinals selecting Roma Doonzay. Yeah, number four, Yes, 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:46.440 another receiver. I just don't see that happening. I just don't. 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:47.080 You don't. 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:50.920 I do not. If Marvin Irrison Junior goes three, then 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:54.520 a quarterback falls to four, and I think the Cardinals. 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:54.680 Cash that in. 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:56.679 I think you're right on that Pauli and. 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:58.640 They continue to build from the inside. 0:10:58.240 --> 0:10:59.920 Out, and I'd love to see that too. 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:03.079 Once again by low Sell High. We're talking about the 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:05.880 NFL Draft the combine. Last year at Kansas City, there 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:08.920 were over three hundred and twelve thousand fans who attended 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:11.680 the draft and the TV ratings who were up twelve 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:15.760 percent versus twenty twenty two. It just keeps growing and expanding. 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:19.000 Joined the Cardinals season ticket priority list at accardinals dot 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:22.679 com slash priority list, all right passing game coordinator, Wide 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:25.760 receivers coach Drew Urrell joining us next on the Big 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:28.760 Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:34.120 Snap to Murray, Let's coming urry backing up close into 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:36.640 the end zone, middle of the end zone, pulled in 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:38.319 by Wilson for a touchdown. 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:40.000 I told you all from day one, you know, I 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:42.160 watched his Senior Bowl and I was like, yeah, the 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:43.800 kid knows, you know, he knows what he's doing. I 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:46.000 can tell you know. And then just obviously he had 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.760 zero catches two weeks in a row, and that's not 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:50.880 you know again, they're not a real representation of you 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:52.800 know what I think we could beat. Now we'll get 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:54.920 a full off season on our bilt. You know, I 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.680 think next year, you know, Michael have a big year. 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:01.760 Of course, Michael's gonna the big year. He wore the 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:05.040 same number at Stanford as our guest tonight on the 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:08.640 Big Red Rage presented by Santanford in Gilbert. You didn't 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:11.800 think I remember that, did you? Drew Terrell, Cardinals passing 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:14.840 game coordinator, wide receivers coach brush off being the offensive 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:16.600 coordinator in the East West Shrine Game. 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.280 Drew, welcome, thanks for having me. Good to be back on. 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:22.240 And the old old Michael Wilson thing. So you wore 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:25.280 number four and then he wore number four at Stanford 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:27.640 and uh okay, all right, so there you go. 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:28.640 He wore it better than me. 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:31.520 And we never asked you though quickly why did you 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:33.480 wear number four? Did you pick that or did they 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:34.320 just give it to you? 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:38.040 So originally I wanted a single digit. I was a 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:40.240 smaller body guy I needed I couldn't be out there 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:44.000 in eighty seven when I first got to Stanford, I 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:47.600 was number nine, which I shared with Richard Sherman. And 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.600 then there was a game where Sherm and I were 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:53.040 both on the on the same special teams unit, and 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:55.200 they had to change my number mid game to four, 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:57.760 and so I was just like, why don't I mean, 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.319 I'll just keep four, Like it's a single digit. It's 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:01.959 closer to my high school number. I was two in 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.280 high school. So I was like, I might as well 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:06.080 just keep four. And they're like, yeah, good idea, you 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:06.600 can have four. 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:07.160 Cool. 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:10.439 So that is a that is a collection of personalities. 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:15.240 Richard Sherman, Yeah, Jim Harbaugh, Andrew Luck true or false? 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:17.080 Andrew Luck had a photographic memory or not? 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:17.440 Come on? 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:18.079 Did he really? 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:18.480 Man? 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:25.720 Yeah, that dude's lights out, top notch athlete, human being, person, guy, teammate, 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:27.440 He's top notched. 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:29.240 Okay, So Drew, we got a lot of things we 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:31.080 want to talk to you about and ask you about, 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:33.280 of course, but we got to get some things out 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:35.680 of the way as well. The PAC twelve, what is 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:38.840 going on? I mean, here, you are a Stanford boy. 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.160 The PAC twelve is no more. 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:43.120 Hurts my soul. 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:44.240 It does, right. 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.000 I grew up a die hard Pack twelve fan. I 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:50.240 grew up a diehard Arizona State fan. To this day, 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:54.160 I have Rose Bull nineteen ninety six PAC ten Championship 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:57.400 in Rose bull photos in my house to this day. 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:01.000 Pat Tillman fan, Jake Plummer fan, you know, knew all 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:04.240 the players, knew where they were from, die Hard and 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:06.400 then to see what it's I mean, what it to 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:09.840 become is is unfortunate. You know, it's sucks. 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:11.480 Yeah, bums me out too. 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:16.200 Chandler Hamilton alum. Drew Trell is our guest. Okay, And 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:18.440 we might get to the Jim Harbaughs stories a little 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.400 bit later, but let's let's get to the East West 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:22.920 Shrine game. You're fresh off that you spent the whole 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:25.720 week out there. Just tell us about the experience and 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:27.560 what was it luck to be the offensive coordinator? 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.160 Man, it was awesome, you know, selfishly for me it was. 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:34.000 It was a great opportunity, you know, development opportunity for 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:37.000 me to you know, call plays, you know, have to 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:40.480 coordinate an entire offense, you know, lead an entire unit. 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:43.320 You know, coach some things I haven't you know, I 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:45.240 don't normally coach on a day to day basis. Talk 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:48.040 the old line about combinations and you know, tight ends 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:50.600 about combinations and you know, backs track in the running 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:52.720 game and kind of do all those things in front 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:55.440 of the group. Which was awesome. You know, they're not 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:56.880 things like I said that I do in my day 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:59.960 to day, but it was good, you know, script and practice, 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:03.840 you know, coaching the rest of the coaches on what 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:05.520 I wanted to look like. You know, all those things 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:08.000 are you know, great practice for me because you know, 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:10.000 I have aspirations in this league to be a coordinator 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:11.840 and be a head coach. And you know, the more 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:13.360 you can get out of your comfort zone and kind 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.680 of do things that you haven't done, prepare you for 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.640 those opportunities. So you know, it was a great opportunity 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.520 for me. You know, I thought it was outstanding and 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:22.680 I took a lot of things from it. 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:25.040 Drew of all those things you just mentioned right there 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:27.920 that go into being an offensive coordinator, what was the 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:30.920 most difficult for you? What did you like doing the most? 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.240 And what was the most the more difficult? 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.000 Man, that's a great question. I think the thing I 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:40.080 liked the most, well, two things. I liked speaking in 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:44.560 front of the entire unit about run game pass game protection. 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:47.320 So you liked dress offensive year. 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:49.920 Yeah, it was just to be honest, it was something 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.440 that I was, you know, nervous about going into it 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:54.200 because again, It's not something I do in the day 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:55.760 to day. You know, I talked to the past game guys, 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:57.280 talk to the quarterback every now and then. You know, 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:00.280 those are things that have come natural. But you know, 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:03.560 in front of the entire unit where you're addressing, you know, 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.440 certain things. At first, I was like, man, I you know, 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:08.920 I hope this goes well. And then it was literally 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:11.400 I told my wife, it was literally like ten seconds 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:14.200 before the meeting started. I went in this like zone 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:16.880 of like, this is what I do, Like I'm I'm 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.359 a coach, like I and. 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:22.520 The confidence started going, I know what I'm talking about. 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:24.240 I'm going to get up there and tell these guys 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:25.080 what I'm talking about. 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:28.320 Yeah, it was that was, you know, a good experience. 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:29.040 I really enjoyed that. 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:33.920 I really enjoyed the process of calling the game, and 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:35.880 you know, all the all the things that go into that. 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:38.360 It's you know, it's tough. It's not an easy task. 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:40.560 You know. People it's easy to sit on your couch 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:42.000 and be like, oh I did call that player. They 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:42.760 should have done this. 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:46.120 Every fan I'm taking call place every fan does. 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:49.120 But there's there's truly so many things that go into it. 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:52.320 I'm not going to get into all those things right now, 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.200 But there's before each call comes out of your mouth, 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:58.200 there's a million things in your mind about you know, 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.440 what you need to do. What effect is this play 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:02.760 call going to have on the next one? You know, 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:05.720 I am I getting the right guy involved? Oh I 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:07.640 shouldn't have called this with this guy in there, or 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:09.320 I should have got somebody else in there, or I 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:11.760 hope our quarterback is comfortable with this. It's you know, 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.399 it's literally you know a plethora of things that just 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:16.080 hit your brain all at once that you've got to 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:19.600 kind of calm your mind down and make, you know, 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:23.320 educated decisions in the moment. So I would say that was, 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:25.639 you know, probably one of the more difficult things but 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:29.639 also more difficult, but also something I enjoyed a lot. 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.919 Right, we got Drew Terrell, Cardin's passing game coordinator and 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.560 wide receivers coach on So now you move on to 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:37.320 the draft. Well, first off, you got to see these 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:39.400 guys not only in the game, but more importantly during 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:40.200 the practice week. 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:41.360 How valuable is. 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:44.240 That, you know, I, you know, I think it's extremely valuable, 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:47.119 especially uh, you know, throughout the week of practice you 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:49.800 could to interact with these guys in meetings and see 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:51.600 what the day to day with them would be like. 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:55.640 You know, there's a million more practice and meeting opportunities 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:57.760 throughout the course of a year than games. So you know, 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.879 just being in those situations with them and you know, 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.119 coaching them and see how they respond to certain coaching 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:05.520 styles and you know, if they can go implement things 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:08.520 you're teaching throughout the week onto the field, and then 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:10.400 just see how competitive they are. You know, you get 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:13.520 the practice periods, the competitive one on one period, the 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:16.840 seven on seven's, the team drills, watch guys go compete 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:19.720 and see how they respond to all these situations. So 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:21.680 I think it's you know, to have an up close 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:23.760 and personal look. I think it's very valuable. 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:26.240 So did you have to write any reports for Monty 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:29.760 asin Ford in the scouting department? Yeah? All these guys. 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:32.480 Yeah, so are actually our head coach that was on 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.480 my team, Richard high Tower at the Bears. He he 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:38.119 did a great job of compiling. So basically all the 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:41.919 position coaches on either side went through and crafted notes 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:45.919 on everybody in their position and then HT collected it 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:48.760 from both sides. So I sent that to those guys 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:52.520 that just emailed the PDFs or whatever of everybody's notes. 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:55.760 That's how the Cardinals stumbled on Michael Wilson to a 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:58.400 large degree last year at the Senior Bowl. So Drew 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:01.760 Durral is our guests, when you film of college receivers, 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:04.600 what do you look at first? Or what's most valuable 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:06.560 to you? What do you what are you looking for 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:08.920 when you watch film? Because there's all these names of 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:11.480 all these big time prospects associated with the Cardinals at 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:13.320 number four, I don't want to get into specific names, 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:15.639 So I'm curious what you look for and evaluating a 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:16.399 college receiver. 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:18.879 Yeah, I think you know something that I that I 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.520 look for is play speed? Does a guy play fast? 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:25.200 And that there's there's such a difference between play speed 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:28.919 and time speed. You can see guys that play with 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:32.040 confidence and they're trying to get to a spot as 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.920 fast as they can without any wasted movement. They've got 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:37.880 no fear of what the defense is doing. They're trying 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:39.840 to get on edges and go fast and get from 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.280 a to be as fast as possible. I think that 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:44.439 really shows up on tape and with Mike that was 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:47.000 something that showed up on tape. You know, when he's impressed, 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:48.680 he's getting on an edge and he's getting to where 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:51.520 he's supposed to get too fast, because I think that 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:55.320 that trait always translates to this level. Ball skills, I 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:57.520 think is a huge thing. Does Does a guy have 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:00.120 the ability to pluck the ball away from his body 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:02.719 with other bodies around them? I think that's another thing 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:04.679 that translates to this level. These guys are used to, 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:07.040 you know, especially if they're top players, They're used to 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:09.960 having a great deal of separation in college, and when 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:12.000 they get to the NFL, guys are gonna be that 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:15.719 much closer, closer, and you know, it's it's not often 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:18.320 that you've got three yards of space on a coral 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:20.240 route or a comeback like, there's gonna be somebody there, 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:23.000 So can you extend and make plays away from your body? 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:25.040 If a guy shows that he can do that on 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:28.480 his college tape, that's a skill that transfers to this level. 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:31.960 Does a wide receiver in the year twenty twenty four 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:34.080 of our lord need to be a tough guy to 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:35.080 play in the NFL? 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:37.639 Yes, I think they do. I think you've got to have, 0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:41.160 you know, a great deal of mental toughness, probably more 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:45.120 so than physical toughness. And I think, like if you're 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:48.200 looking at a guy playing inside the numbers, I think 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:50.280 if he can pluck the ball away from his body 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:53.960 with people caving in on him, he's mentally tough as 0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:55.879 well as physically tough because he knows what's going on 0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:58.640 around him. But he's making the conscious decision if I'm 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:03.320 cackling this ball. But I do think toughness is, you know, 0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:06.200 both physical and mental. And you know obviously the mental 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:09.280 you don't there's elements of it, like I said, you 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:10.960 can see on tape, but you've got to dig a 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:13.480 little deeper to yeah, and press guy's buttons a certain 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:16.600 way over the process to see exactly where their mental 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:17.199 toughness is. 0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:20.040 And Michael Wilson made a lot of contested catches in 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:22.320 his rookie year that definitely stood out. You know, it 0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:25.040 all stood out when Kyler Murray returned to the offense. 0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:27.240 And we can go through all the numbers, but I mean, 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:29.480 you know, points per game Cardinals went from twenty eighth 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:33.159 to thirteenth, net yards per game, twenty six to ninth, 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:36.840 big plays in the passing game from thirtieth to fourteenth 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:39.800 in the league. So what did you see, especially those 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:42.520 last three games when it seemed like Kyler Rees started 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.720 to get in sync with the receivers and just the 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:49.720 entire offense. Are you what are your thoughts based on 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:51.359 the end of last year going into this season. 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:53.520 Yeah, I think you see a kid. You know, when 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:56.040 Kyler came back, you see a kid that's extremely talented. 0:21:56.720 --> 0:21:59.600 His confidence grew and grew every week. He's a guy 0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:02.280 that you can feel his energy on the field. A 0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:05.119 great reference that I heard a coach I can't I 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:08.280 can't even remember who said it, but it actually came 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:10.359 when I was in Carolina when we had Cam Newton, 0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:12.119 and they said, that's the type of guy that tilts 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:15.200 the field, like you can feel the energy going towards 0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:17.320 him whenever he's on the field. And Kyler has that 0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:19.480 type of charisma about him where you know, you look 0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:20.840 out there at times and he has a look in 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:23.200 his eye like he you trust that we're gonna go 0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:25.879 score points in that like that last drive against Philly, 0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:27.280 you knew we were going down and scoring to win 0:22:27.320 --> 0:22:30.240 the game. Because he just has that type of energy. 0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:33.959 He tilts the field. Everybody feels it everybody gravitates towards him. 0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:36.800 Guys want to play well for him. He has that 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:38.600 type of war about him. And I think, you know, 0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:40.920 the more confidence he got in what he was being 0:22:40.960 --> 0:22:43.520 asked to do, you know, and the guys he had 0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:46.200 around him, I think you saw some of those things 0:22:46.240 --> 0:22:48.920 take off, and you know, hopefully that that that transcends 0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:51.200 into the offseason into next year, and I think it will. 0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:53.439 I think there's no doubt about it. This offense was 0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:56.439 evolving and getting so much better at the end of 0:22:56.440 --> 0:22:59.760 the season, in particular the last four or five games 0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:01.600 of the season. I thought you could really see that. 0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:04.879 What do you think is the next step for the 0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:08.000 Arizona Cardinals offense? What do you think that might look like? 0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:08.400 Drew? 0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:14.120 I think you know it's gonna you mean, the next 0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:15.280 step in terms. 0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:19.679 Of what developing an offense and where it might grow 0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:20.440 and evolve. 0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:22.639 Yeah, I think we've just got to get you know, 0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:26.840 the continuity of Kyler being out there. You know, you 0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:28.160 get a guy back in the middle of the season 0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:29.800 and guys are kind of in a groove, and then 0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:32.200 there's a quarterback change and you've all there. There's kind 0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:34.720 of a you know, a reacclimation and an adjustment phase 0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:37.680 that has to take place. I think we can we're 0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:42.440 able now to not get started from the foundation level, 0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:44.400 but kind of get into some graduate work in terms 0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:46.840 of the nuances of the offense. And you know, you're 0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:49.120 not talking so much about day one problems, but you're 0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:52.800 talking about week ten problems. You know, maybe different defenses 0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:56.520 you face. And I think there'll be a natural evolution 0:23:56.760 --> 0:24:00.920 to the plays that you know he's comfortable with and 0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:03.760 plays that we've got time on task of. I think 0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:07.960 all that will be, you know, ever evolving and ever growing. 0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:10.040 But you know, to answer your question, I think just 0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:14.280 the continuity of him being under center and the guys 0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:17.960 around him knowing what he expects and you know, what 0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:20.840 his thought process is on certain concepts and things like that. 0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:24.400 Cardinals pass game coordinator Wide receivers coach Drew Terrell here 0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:26.960 on the Big Red Rage Rondel Moore. Would you learn 0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:29.880 about Rondel Moore last year and how big is this 0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:32.160 upcoming season for Rondelle Moore. 0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:35.120 Yeah, it's you know, like like all our guys, it's 0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:36.960 gonna be you know, a huge year of growth for 0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:40.679 Rondell just because again he he's getting used to our 0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:43.040 coaching styles, he's getting used to his style of offense. 0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:46.159 He's getting used to, you know, the things we're asking 0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:49.840 him to do, and I expect, you know, him to 0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:53.320 make a big jump. You know, there's there's elements of 0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:56.240 the passing game and things like that, you know, we 0:24:56.280 --> 0:24:58.159 would like him to improve on. And he's worked his, 0:24:58.520 --> 0:24:59.760 you know, his butt off over the course of the 0:24:59.840 --> 0:25:02.440 year to improve certain aspects of his game. And you know, 0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:05.040 I only anticipate he'll continue to grow. You know, he's 0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:07.840 a young player who's Uh, the one thing about Royn 0:25:07.880 --> 0:25:09.520 Dall is he wants to be good. You know, he 0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:11.679 wants to be, you know, a top notch player in 0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:13.960 this league. And you know he's he's not afraid to 0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:15.600 put the work in. You know, if Ron Delle you 0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:17.560 go down there in the weight room, Uh, he's in 0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:19.480 there almost every day, you know, even this time of 0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:22.639 year in February. So he's willing to put the work in. 0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:26.920 And you know he'll he'll continue to grow and evolved. 0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:28.960 We only got a few seconds he a coach. But 0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:31.399 the best drill at the combine for a wide receiver, 0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:33.080 what is it? Man? 0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:35.480 I don't know if I can answer that. 0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:38.639 Think about that. It's okay, Yeah, the best. It's something 0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:41.280 that you like to watch for a wide receiver. 0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:43.320 I like to watch the gauntlet drill because I think 0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:45.720 you can see how guys tracking, how effortlessly they plucked 0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:48.040 the football. I think that's a that's a good one. 0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:49.280 All right. I like that. 0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:53.000 And you were recruit at Stanford, and Jim Harbaugh, who 0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:55.000 had already offered you, turn to you and said, what 0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:57.680 when you're a high school player while you're watching them practice, 0:25:59.240 --> 0:25:59.639 you think. 0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:01.119 You got what it takes to make this team. I 0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:04.040 think you can play here. I think so, coach. 0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:06.560 I think so worked out pretty well. 0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:09.199 Yeah, Andrew really enjoyed it. 0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:12.280 Yeah, thanks, really, you buddy, and we really look forward 0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:14.560 to this season. By the way, Trey McBride anointed Wolf 0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:18.640 the run game blocking quality control coordinator or something like that, 0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:21.439 because Wolf's so into forget it. We were talking passing 0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:24.240 here in this edition, so that's good. And we continue 0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:27.520 with a big red rage resented by Santan forward in Gilbert. 0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:34.200 Second down and ten on the twenty six of Arizona, 0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:37.159 Strout takes the shot gun stack dropped straight back minus 0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:40.400 fire side picked off had the eighteen yard line by 0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:44.119 Antonio Hamilton. He jumped the round, jumped in front of 0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:47.440 the wide receiver and CJ. Stroud has thrown four picks 0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:50.919 today than he had through the first nine games of 0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:53.439 the season. And the Cardinals have the ball back on 0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:54.760 their eighteen yard line. 0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:59.960 Oh, they dialed it up as well. You gotta be 0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:06.000 kidding me. They came after CJ. Stroud, Antonio Hamilton, man 0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:10.160 on man on the outside against Tank Dell have undercut 0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:12.520 the out run and may the PI. 0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:16.000 Three picks by the Cardinals in that game. 0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:16.359 C J. 0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:21.560 Stroud threw a total of five all season. Remarkable, not 0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:25.280 just the Cardinals defensive takeaways in that game, but the 0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:28.800 entire rookie season. For your NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year, 0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:33.480 see J. Stroud, Antonio Hamilton one of many free agents 0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:37.120 for the Cardinals as they continue to pave the way 0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:40.040 into the future. Monty Assin fort with his first full 0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:42.560 off season and now he knows what he needs, knows 0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:44.800 what he has and we'll see what that means going forward. 0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:47.440 It is a big Red Rage presented by santan Ford 0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:50.600 and Gilbert. Thanks again to Drew Terrell. Cardinals passing game 0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:55.240 coordinator wide receivers coach and we'll see Hollywood Brown obviously 0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:58.280 a big name on this list. Ron Wolfley and I 0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:00.480 think we'd all agree he was much better on film 0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:04.800 than he was in the box score. Maybe, just maybe 0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:07.680 that actually works through the Cardinal's advantage in the off 0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:10.800 season to some degree. Do you think maybe he's a sleeper, 0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:13.040 he's a bit of an unknown, or do you think 0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:15.120 these gems are going to watch the film and maybe 0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:17.400 he gets a bigger offer than the Cardinals are willing. 0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:20.199 To matche Yeah, that's the question right now, PAULI. I 0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:23.199 think he was making fourteen point two million somewhere in 0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:27.080 that regard. You know. For me right now, I don't 0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:30.200 think this is just me. Nobody has given me any 0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:33.439 type of indication. But I don't think that there's going 0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:36.359 to be a massive market for Hollywood Brown. I don't 0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:40.600 think so. Because he didn't have great numbers last year. 0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:42.960 He asked, you got to watch the tape, but still 0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:47.520 he didn't have great numbers. And because of that, I 0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:50.680 think the market's not going to be on fire for 0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:54.480 Hollywood Brown. And that gives me hope, PAULI, Yes, somehow, 0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:58.600 some way, Manti Ausen Fortney, Arizona Cardinals and Kyler Murray 0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:02.720 can actually talk to Hollywood Brown and get him back here, 0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:05.360 maybe if it's a one year contract on a one 0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:08.960 year deal, right, because I love the thought of having 0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:13.440 Hollywood Brown over the top of Trey McBride and maybe 0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:16.000 whoever they take at number four, if it happens to 0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:19.960 be a wide receiver named Marvin Harrison Junior, I'd love 0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:22.840 to see Hollywood Brown over the top of those two guys. 0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:24.840 In particular, just saying. 0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:27.520 Look, we host Jonathan Gannon's TV show, and wol if 0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:29.480 you can agree or disagree, and I know you will, 0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:31.400 But every time he brought up Hollywood Brown or we 0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:34.760 asked him about it, his respect for Hollywood Brown's skill 0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:38.680 set was genuine. Yeah, and he reverts into his defensive 0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:40.960 coordinator mode and said, those are the kind of guys 0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:44.480 who scare me because they can get loose beyond a secondary. 0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:47.080 We have to account for that sort of speed, and 0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:50.480 right now is currently constructed. He's the one guy who's 0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:52.880 a true burner that can keep a secondary. 0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:57.720 Honest, Yes, he is that guy. And once again, this 0:29:57.800 --> 0:29:59.640 is a guy that runs as fast as he needs 0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:01.960 to run to catch the ball. For the most part, right, 0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:05.280 and yet Kyler Murray still has had a couple of 0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:08.120 balls that I know he wanted back because he overthrew 0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:10.440 him a couple of times that should have been a touchdown. 0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:14.360 Actually more than that all season long for Hollywood Brown. 0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:18.920 I had four, I had four five. I mean, it 0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:22.520 was remarkable. It could have looked much different between Josh 0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:26.200 Dobbs and Kyler Murray knocking off the rust, you know, 0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:27.760 and he wasn't available at the end of the year 0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:30.160 when Kyler was finally in sync and the accuracy and 0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:33.560 the anticipation was finally back in full and that Hollywood 0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:36.280 Brown wasn't available because of injuries. So once again, maybe 0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:39.200 just maybe the off season that plays the Cardinals advantage. 0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:41.880 And PAULI, maybe it takes a frontship. Yeah, bring him back. 0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:43.840 Maybe that's what it is. We'll see. 0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:46.320 Okay, beyond Hollywood Brown, where do you go next? The 0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:49.800 list of Cardinals free agents. We look, Antonio Hamilton by 0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:52.200 the end of the year, was your best corner. He 0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:54.760 was your number one corner. Now in an ideal scenario, 0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:57.200 he's your number three or number four corner. 0:30:57.360 --> 0:31:00.760 Yeah, I know, Paully. Look, these guys are a bunch 0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:03.600 of glue guys for the most part. And I was 0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:06.400 a glue guy, so I can actually say that a 0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:08.160 lot of the names that are on here guys who 0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:10.560 are pros, Guys who are gonna go out there and 0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:12.760 do their job. They might not be going to the 0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:14.680 Pro Bowl, but they're gonna go out there and they're 0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:19.840 gonna give you an opportunity. I like Lacky Foto. I do. Now, 0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.800 once again, the injury situation, You've got to bring that 0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:26.840 into consideration as well. What I saw from Carlos Watkins 0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:30.880 last year, I really like that Zeke Turner is a pro. 0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:33.800 This is a guy that plays so well in transition 0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:36.760 on special teams, and he's a pro. He can go 0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:38.880 in and get you out of a game. If he's 0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:41.280 got to come in and be the weak side inside, 0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:43.640 he can do that and get you out of a 0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:47.120 game right there. But for the most part, those guys 0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:50.040 I really really like and would like to see back. 0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:53.080 Do you put Carlos Watkins in LJ. Collier in the 0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:56.560 same category in that two veteran defensive linemen, neither one 0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:59.520 guy out of September, But you and Pash called both 0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:01.760 their names quite a bit when they did play. 0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:07.080 Yeah, you know, LJ. Collier played really really well when 0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:09.400 he was given the opportunity to do it. I was 0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:14.160 pretty jacked up about that combination. But Carlos Watkins I 0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:18.760 thought was more productive, actually more productive when he was 0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:22.480 given the opportunity to play, which really surprised me. I 0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:24.800 don't know about you, Paully, but it surprised me. 0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:27.880 He was buried. He was buried in Dallas. They're deep 0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:30.320 on the defensive line. He really coveted a chance to 0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:32.240 shine and get some reps and then he got hurt. 0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:34.880 Ljkyllier a former first round pick we had on the 0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:37.480 Big Red Rage. You heard how motivated he was the 0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:40.040 last offseason going into the year. So if you can 0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:42.280 come back with one year, prove it deals again. 0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:46.000 Yes, And there's one other deal, one other guy that 0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:50.280 I would like to see out there for the Arizona Cardinals. 0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:51.920 It's got a lot to do with his health. And 0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:54.400 I think you probably know where I'm going on that. 0:32:54.480 --> 0:33:00.239 But Jeff Swain, yep, Jeff swam the mentality. We were 0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:03.560 talking to Ben Steele, the tight ends coach, right here, 0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:07.680 and he was talking about Jeff Swain and the impact 0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:10.800 that Jeff Swain had on that tight end's room just 0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:13.640 because of the pro that he is, because of how 0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:17.880 physical he is when he would play, and the insight 0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:21.600 that he was able to give a young Trey McBride 0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:28.040 was so valuable. So, you know, Jeff, if he's recovered 0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:30.760 from that ACL, I'd love to see him get the 0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:33.200 opportunity to go out and be resigning. 0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:35.760 And look, the punter, Blake Gillikin had a great year, 0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:38.800 ended up number three in punting in the NFL and 0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:42.440 for gross punting average set a team record. So I'm 0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:44.320 guessing they're going to do what they can to try 0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:47.719 and make something happen there. We'll see about that. You 0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.560 talked to many assin for it every single week. Do 0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:52.479 you get the sense that he's the kind of guy 0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:55.600 who's going to make a big splash signing in free agency? 0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:58.040 No? I do not, as a matter of fact, and 0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:01.720 I stand in a PLoud. I really do. Now, there 0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:04.600 are some guys that are gonna be game changers, but 0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:07.680 I think you got to really really look hard and 0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:11.440 long as to who those guys are and to what 0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:15.000 degree they're going to change your game. How much money 0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:17.080 are you really going to give somebody? I don't know. 0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:21.120 I can guarantee Monty Assenford isn't a believer in building 0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:24.920 teams via free agency. It's through the draft. 0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:27.239 So even if there's an edge rusher out there, even 0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:29.800 if there's a wrecking ball de tackle. 0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:34.239 Chris Jones by way of example right now, is a possibility. No, 0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:37.000 no way. 0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:39.400 Okay, you're pretty definitive on that one. 0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:39.640 Hey. 0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:42.799 Join the Cardinal season ticket priority list today twenty twenty four. 0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:47.320 Home opponents include that Bears, the Chargers, the Patriots, the Jets, 0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:49.920 the Lions, the Commanders, and of course the NFC West. 0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:53.480 Just go to asycardinals dot com slash priority list. All right, 0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:55.799 let's talk about the Cardinals second round pick last year. 0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:58.520 Next and the big red rage presented by santan Ford 0:34:58.560 --> 0:34:59.480 in Gilbert. 0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:02.680 And up up the middle. 0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:06.200 B j o Jalari is there to grab Rodriguez at 0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:09.000 the line of scrimmage, snapped the Jackson he's gonna throw 0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:11.640 from the pocket looking in trouble, wrapped up. 0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:13.000 And thrown down for a sack. 0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:17.440 Pj Ojalari gets his first sack. The rookie out of 0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:21.000 LSU gets a big sack here on Lamar Jackson. 0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:25.160 Closed down Lamar Jackson quickly and got the sack. That 0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:27.080 is big time by bj. 0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:31.680 Heinecke playfake in trouble hits hand sacked by bj Ojalari 0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:34.200 back at the ten yard line, a loss. 0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:36.760 Of about ten oh. That is a big sack. 0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:40.000 Back to pass goes Heinikey with time now the pocket 0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:42.600 collapses hed Heinicky sack back at the. 0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:43.600 Nine yard line. 0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:48.360 Bjo Jalari having a breakout game with his second sack 0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:49.920 forcing a punt. 0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:54.640 All the rookie once again would up be denied. 0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:56.600 Back in the locker room, they were calling him two 0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:59.680 sack o Jealari that whole next week as he had 0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:03.279 that breakout game. I think the question now is good 0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:07.120 he following the footsteps of Trey McBride and be your 0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:11.520 breakout player twenty twenty four. It is a big red 0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:14.719 rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. We are Santane Ford, 0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:17.359 Paul calvc Ron Wolf Lean Wolf. We don't agree on much, 0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:19.880 but we do agree that the twenty twenty three breakout 0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:23.600 player for the Cardinals was most definitely Trey McBride. Yes, 0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:25.040 that's not even close. 0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:25.560 Not even close. 0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:29.960 What about bgo Jalari as a candidate for next season 0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:32.640 based on what you saw in half a season from 0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:33.480 the second round run. 0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:36.520 Yeah, you know, Pauli, I would agree with you. Right now. 0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:40.480 I think he's the leader in the clubhouse in terms 0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:45.280 of my expectation for his improvement this year. I really 0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:48.080 do believe he's got everything you need to be an 0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:51.120 effective edge player, A very good edge player for a 0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:54.880 long time in the National Football League. How good, I 0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:57.399 don't know. There's so many things have to come into 0:36:57.400 --> 0:37:00.800 play right now, but I'll guarantee you what beach glare 0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:06.120 experience last season is going to build confidence in him. 0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:11.279 He didn't have a fourteen sacks season, as we all know. 0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:14.120 He had four sacks on the season, but I really 0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:18.080 thought at the end of the season Bjogelaari really came 0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:22.279 around and because of that, I expect him to have 0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:26.880 a very solid year number two. What that means, Pauli 0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:29.000 and what that looks like, I do not know, But 0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:33.160 I do know this. The kid loves football and cares 0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:36.239 about getting better. And because of that, once you mix 0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:38.840 that with the fact that he's got the physical skills 0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:42.120 to do the job, my expectation is he's going to 0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:43.400 be a starter on the edge. 0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:46.279 Yeah, those four sacks in the last ten games. He 0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:48.640 had six quarterback hits, he had a pass defense, he 0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:51.160 had five tackles for loss. He had thirty five tackles. 0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:53.719 What'd you think about him against the run, because if 0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:57.640 there was one knock that supposedly allegedly knocked him out 0:37:57.680 --> 0:37:59.520 of the first round into the top of the second 0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:02.640 with a Cardinals snagged him last year, was that Okay, 0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:07.120 maybe the run defense wasn't quite NFL caliber, but would 0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:08.160 you think in watching him? 0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:11.200 Yeah, for me, for the most part, I thought bj 0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:14.640 got better at that as well, in terms of setting 0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:18.359 the edge, and that's something you've absolutely got to have 0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:20.800 out of that edge player. He's got to be somebody 0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:24.000 that is physical, and I thought he got better at that. 0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:28.200 Once again, Paul, it's very similar to Trey McBride. Trey 0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:30.560 McBride his rookie year. You know what he looked. He 0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:34.719 looked a little unsure, looked a little unsure of what 0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:36.759 it was that he was doing. I think you could 0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:40.600 say the exact same thing for Bjojealari looked a little 0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:43.160 unsure as to what he was doing. I think year 0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:45.800 number two, he's going to be a lot more sure 0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:48.920 of what he's doing, and I think you could see 0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:52.600 how that helped Trey McBride, and I think that's gonna 0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:54.239 help bj Ojelari as well. 0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:56.200 Now that's a great observation because towards the end of 0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:58.880 the year, Trey McBride did admit to the media that 0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:01.040 it was a confidence thing for him, and then once 0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:04.920 he started making plays, he proved it to himself so important. 0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:08.120 And then Kyler started trusting him and their chemistry developed. So, okay, 0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:10.400 maybe you have the inburse of that with bjo Jalari. 0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:13.920 Here's this position coach Rob Rodriguez the end of this season, 0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:16.560 when he was asked about the progress of the second round. 0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:19.399 Rookie, that kid has had to work so hard, and 0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:21.799 people don't realize that's why rookies who come into this 0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:24.200 league don't just jump in here and start rushing the passers, 0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:26.480 because they need to learn how to rush with the 0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:29.200 proper angles. You can't just run around people in this league. 0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:32.239 You're not gonna play a Division one double a team 0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:34.480 every four weeks and get a couple of Success's not 0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:35.160 how it works. 0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:36.160 You have to fight. 0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:39.080 You're playing against the best every week. That kid has 0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:41.920 had to get healthy. He's had to mature in this 0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:43.880 league and he's had to learn those things. 0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:45.600 And it is a child by fire. 0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:48.040 It's an uncomfortability for such a long period of time, 0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:48.719 some guys can. 0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:49.719 Start to doubt themselves. 0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:52.160 This guy's had such a great head on his shoulders 0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:53.680 and he's just worked his butt off. 0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:55.759 There you go, there it is, Paul. You know what 0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:58.759 that he's got a great head on his shoulders right there, 0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:00.920 and he's gotta work his butt off. You know what, 0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:03.880 You need to be trial by fire, isn't that right, Coach? 0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:08.480 You need to go ahead and actually be set on fire. 0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:10.680 And now all of a sudden, you need to be 0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:14.080 melted a little bit. And now you need to become malleable. 0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:16.239 And then we're going to pour you into this and 0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:18.759 you're going to take the shape of the culture of 0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:22.839 this football team. It is. It is so obvious to 0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:26.839 me because everything that I experienced as a rookie, this 0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:30.280 is what I think bjo Jelai is experiencing as well. 0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:33.719 And it all comes back to the confidence question. And 0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:36.319 I think his confidence will grow significantly. 0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:38.279 And when he looks at will Anderson Junior, who is 0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:40.600 your NFL defensive rookie of the year. Guess what, b 0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:43.880 Joe Jilari was a notch behind Will Anderson in every 0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:47.680 single collegiate category over his three year career. Those two 0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:51.600 guys in the SEC wreaked havoc. So maybe b Joe 0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:55.160 Gilauri after have a short and offseason last year, right, 0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:58.120 even some of his Combine and Pro Day workouts were 0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:01.640 hampered by injury, couldn't participate in a lot of camp. 0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:04.520 Because my biggest question I think going forward Pauly is 0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:06.080 can he stay healthy. 0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:09.040 And do they get him some help? Where do they 0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:10.920 go in the draft. Maybe they got to me if 0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:13.040 they go somewhere in free agency, it's either going to 0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:15.720 be edge or it's going to be corner. Maybe defense, 0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:19.680 because there's two things in the NFL quarterback get to 0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:22.200 the quarterback. Cardinals had one sack in the last six 0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:24.480 games and it was when Justin Field stepped out of bounds. 0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:28.160 So they obviously need to ramp that up. And I 0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:31.399 think that Jonathan Gannon knows that very well. He came 0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:34.000 from a defense where they led the NFL in sacks 0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:35.960 and it wasn't even close. They had seventy sacks. So 0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:38.200 it makes me wonder, is Jonathan Gannon even running the 0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:40.880 defense he wants to run. Does he even have the 0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:43.000 personnel to run what he wants to run? 0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:43.960 Question? 0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:47.000 With eleven picks and forty to fifty million to spend 0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:51.440 in free agency, I think they have to improve outside linebacker, 0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:53.120 edge rusher, and defensive line. 0:41:53.200 --> 0:41:55.799 I'm just wondering, is Manti asin fort ready to do 0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:57.680 that right now? Is ready to say, you know what, 0:41:57.880 --> 0:42:01.680 who we are there, we're there, this this draft class 0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:05.359 coming in right now, and the free agents that we're 0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:07.839 going to go out there and acquire and sign, we're there, 0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:09.560 and that means we need to go out and we 0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:13.960 need to spend this money going forward. I wonder if 0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:18.040 he feels like that is a situation where he's going 0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:21.040 to push all his chips and at the center of 0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:22.400 the table right now. 0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:24.600 I wonder when the Cardinals went into Soldier Field and 0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:27.400 you saw what Montes Sweat did for the Bears defense, 0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:31.319 It's what Chandler Jones did for the Cardinals years ago. 0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:34.520 You bring in that premiere marquee pass rusher. It's sort 0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:36.359 of like, and I made this analogy and I'll share 0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:38.400 this with you. It's when the Dbacks finally got that 0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:41.799 closer and everyone else in the bullpen took their role. Yep, 0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:44.080 if you can get that marquee edge rusher, you bring 0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:46.080 that guy in. And the Bears gave him a high 0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:48.920 second round pick and paid Montes what a boatload of money. 0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:51.200 But he's in his prime and he ended up being 0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:53.480 a twelve and a half sack guy. And guess what 0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:56.520 the entire it was the rising tide that lifted that 0:42:56.680 --> 0:42:58.520 entire Bears defense the rest of the season. 0:42:58.719 --> 0:43:02.399 Well, there are certain guys from the Eagles and heat. 0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:05.080 They shall go unmentioned, of course on this show. 0:43:05.200 --> 0:43:07.239 I mean a former Cardinal first round pick. 0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:08.880 I'm just saying, who are unhappy? 0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:12.800 I believe, yes, or at least uneppy with his deal. 0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:16.439 So look, whether it's that, whether it's the Cardinals trade 0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:18.480 out of four and they go back to ten, eight 0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:20.120 or ten or twelve and then all of a sudden, 0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:23.839 Alabama edge rusher Dallas Turner is there. I could see 0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:27.440 something like that. Look, there's no edge rusher at least 0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:29.840 based on the current mock drafts that is worthy of 0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:33.080 the number four pick overall, right, same with cornerback, right 0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:35.040 or I think the Cardinals will definitely be a candidate 0:43:35.040 --> 0:43:36.880 for one or the other at number four. That's just 0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:40.400 not the case, which might, in my opinion, increase the 0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:43.240 odds the trade out and go for that defensive lineman 0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:45.440 or edge rusher more in the middle of the first round. 0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:48.800 Right, I would agree with that as long as Marvin 0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:51.600 Harrison Junior isn't sitting there, Paul. I mean, why in 0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:54.320 the world would you take a tree that is running 0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:57.720 in the secondary? Take a tree and try to chop 0:43:57.800 --> 0:44:00.640 him down, Paul? Why would you do that when Kyler 0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:04.160 would appreciate that tree running across the secondary. 0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:07.200 All right, here's a tree who can run. Zavian Collins. 0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:09.480 Give me your thoughts on Zavion Collins and what you 0:44:09.520 --> 0:44:11.560 think his future is with the Ears on the Cardinals 0:44:11.560 --> 0:44:14.120 because his contract situation hangs in the house. 0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:17.239 Yeah, I know. First of all, listen, you know how 0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:20.399 he loves Abon. I mean, we all do. The guy 0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:26.480 is an excellent, excellent dude and a guy that I 0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:30.680 think needs to be returned to Mike Linebacker. I don't 0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:34.439 think the edge is where he belongs, and I don't 0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:38.040 think that is his future right now, and honestly, I 0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:41.640 don't expect him to have that fifth year here. 0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:45.480 Interesting, and you know what if you put him back 0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:49.440 there with Kaizier White. That would be intriguing. 0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:49.840 Perhaps. 0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:52.520 Who knows what the future of Josh Woods Chris Barnes 0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:56.279 is exactly. 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