WEBVTT - AJ CRIMSON - Broke but Boujee Spaghetti

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<v Speaker 1>This is my ghetto celebrity O, my ghetto spaghetti. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Colleen with and we are on another episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Eating wall Broke. Today, I have the lovely AJ Crimson

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<v Speaker 1>from a J Crimson Beauty and he is whipping us.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh lovely. It looks like a gore Mate eating Wall

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<v Speaker 1>Broke dish. So tell us what you're making for us.

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<v Speaker 1>So today I'm gonna make an amazing spaghetti that I

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<v Speaker 1>just absolutely love. And yeah, you're gonna love it, ya excited? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well this doesn't look like a traditional Eating Wall Broke dish,

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<v Speaker 1>so um, one feed me. I'm definitely going to. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely going to. So it's gonna be great. So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, and I guess when what I heard

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<v Speaker 1>about it and you're like, hey, like, what's the dish

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<v Speaker 1>that you were that you ate while you were broke?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, Okay, I had to think about

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<v Speaker 1>it for a little while because it was either going

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<v Speaker 1>to be like rice, you know, because I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>getting like eggs and rice. But then also too, I

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<v Speaker 1>eat a lot of noodles and need a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>spaghetti noodles. So um, so this is gonna be my

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<v Speaker 1>version of that. So yeah, night, I mean we have

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<v Speaker 1>we have the water boiling over here, which is really great.

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<v Speaker 1>You just rest that right over there. We'll do that

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<v Speaker 1>right here. So take something, should just do the whole thing,

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<v Speaker 1>do the whole thing. Let's just do it. Why not

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<v Speaker 1>live a large exactly and actually can eat all of

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<v Speaker 1>these but myself like in one sitting, So I really

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<v Speaker 1>love spaghetti. I do. Actually I did a little switch

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<v Speaker 1>up that A J does not know about today. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I just found out that they have protein noodles. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>what is that what we're about to eat today? Protein noodles?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I wanted to watch the carbs. What that's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of salt. It's for the water, so it's really

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<v Speaker 1>for the water. You really won't taste it than the noodles.

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<v Speaker 1>But also this is Himalayan sea salt, so you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to use too much because Himalayan sea salt tends

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<v Speaker 1>to be a lot saltier than regular table salt, and

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<v Speaker 1>but it's also healthier too. So oh was that one?

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<v Speaker 1>I was? I was actually wondering what the difference between

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<v Speaker 1>the Himalayan and that's when I start did a question

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<v Speaker 1>your brokeness right there? So I'm definitely a little bougie.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm bougie broke for sure. Um, I think that. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad used to tell me, I can tell this

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<v Speaker 1>that was a great story. Actually. So I had to

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<v Speaker 1>be about maybe twelve or thirteen, and we were picking

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<v Speaker 1>out um silverware for the house and I just was

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<v Speaker 1>thumbing through. It's like, oh, what do you think? And

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<v Speaker 1>whatever I picked, I guess it was like super expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, boy, you've got rich taste in poor pockets.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just I've always remembered that, but I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>like I have to I love that I have rich taste,

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<v Speaker 1>but now I can't have poor pockets, you know, so

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<v Speaker 1>I have to I have to catch up to myself.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's just kind of always been in

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<v Speaker 1>me too, like nice things. Yeah, and you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I like about. My mom used to always say, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna sit because because you're doing all the cookie,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to help. Uh uh, I'll help with

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<v Speaker 1>the party. This is good. This is just how you

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<v Speaker 1>do it at home too, like when everything is like

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<v Speaker 1>bubbling over, messing up the stove. Um. But but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my mom used to always say that, uh, poor is

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<v Speaker 1>more long term and broke is temporary. So even when

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<v Speaker 1>we were doing Eating Well Broke, It's awesome to have

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<v Speaker 1>entrepreneurs like yourself, self made individuals like yourself on the show, because, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I think sometimes when you're in the situation of being

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<v Speaker 1>brokeer you don't have enough money to get whatever project

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<v Speaker 1>off the ground. It's like you can sometimes think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a forever plan, but you and other self made individuals

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<v Speaker 1>are living proof that it's possible. So with that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious, how did you get a J. Crimson Beauty

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<v Speaker 1>off the ground. So Crimson Beauty was actually founded in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and thirteen. This is my second brand. My

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<v Speaker 1>first brand was called Kisspical Tour, which I launched in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and seven. But I learned a lot when

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<v Speaker 1>I was building that brand, so that by the time

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<v Speaker 1>Agan Crimson Beauty came along. Um I knew that I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't gonna spend as much money, you know, as I

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<v Speaker 1>did with the first brand. I knew that I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna utilize social media a little bit more. Um So

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<v Speaker 1>I started this brand with about five thousand dollars and

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<v Speaker 1>it was but to basically level that out, I had

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<v Speaker 1>already started some of the formulation in the old brand.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, while doing the old brand, I was just

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<v Speaker 1>like I knew what I wanted to do. So by

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<v Speaker 1>the time this idea and this concept had come along,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just more of a about implementation and I

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<v Speaker 1>started really small. I started really small. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>people often think that they have to go big and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, have forty five colors. I started with eight

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<v Speaker 1>shades that I had already kind of developed, and I

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<v Speaker 1>needed to get a concept around. I took it to

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<v Speaker 1>a trade show. People seem to resonate with it, and

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<v Speaker 1>uh and I sold out that first day, which was

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<v Speaker 1>really amaz zing. I'll use this And you said, two thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand twelve is kind of when I started like

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<v Speaker 1>actually developing. But two it came out in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and thirteen year, so this is all before the fancies

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<v Speaker 1>of the world all that came out. So we've been inclusive.

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<v Speaker 1>We were inclusive before inclusive became like a buzzword. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>can you for the people like myself, what does that mean? Inclusive?

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<v Speaker 1>So right now you know, everybody's like, oh, diversity, and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody wants to get in diversity training and making sure

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody is included in their voice matters. When I

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<v Speaker 1>started Age of Crimson Beauty, it was really I've been

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<v Speaker 1>traveling and touring with like Hillary Duff and Fergie and

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<v Speaker 1>Estelle and the Stell for like three years. So Christina, Million,

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<v Speaker 1>Faith Evans, all these girls. I have been working with

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<v Speaker 1>Amory and there are a myriad of shades, and I

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<v Speaker 1>always had to kind of come to the table and

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<v Speaker 1>figure out like how I was going to match their

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<v Speaker 1>foundation or matt do the things that I needed to

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<v Speaker 1>do for them, you know, so they look and feel

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<v Speaker 1>their best as a compartist, right And there weren't a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of colors on the market. There weren't a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of It just wasn't a lot of everything, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in a in a way that spoke black women or

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<v Speaker 1>women of color directly. And I think that's what we're

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with now. That's what we're seeing more of. Now

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<v Speaker 1>Black women are standing up and saying, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a voice. I would like to see myself

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<v Speaker 1>in the ad campaigns that kind of thing. So Adrian

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<v Speaker 1>comes in beauty from the start was always about not

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<v Speaker 1>leaving that girl out. You know. We started with the

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<v Speaker 1>darkest color first and worked our way, worked our way backwards,

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<v Speaker 1>um to make sure that you know she was seeing Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And it sounds like you had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of experience because you were working with it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>you were working with white girls and black girls. Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was a kid, and I joke about this,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not really a jokematic, but I came from a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of child abuse. And I remember when you

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<v Speaker 1>try to cover up bruises and I'm mixed. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't find a palette that would cover And this

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<v Speaker 1>sounds completely ridiculous, but you couldn't find a color to

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<v Speaker 1>cover my face because at that time, there was no like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the sixth grades in between of shades. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just either white or black. And it was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so many things are like that. You're right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that was that was what I was

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<v Speaker 1>up against, you know, it really was again, like I

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<v Speaker 1>started with, I felt like the lighter shades were easier

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<v Speaker 1>to make. Um. It was the deeper colors that you

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't see. Like I started with a girl who's

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<v Speaker 1>South Sudanese, and I was like, hey, if I can

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<v Speaker 1>match her on my first round was terrible. It was horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I literally I thought I had the darkest color.

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<v Speaker 1>I was testing it a trade show. I put it on.

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<v Speaker 1>This girl was like, hey, I got the perfect color

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<v Speaker 1>for you. She came up. I was like, give me

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<v Speaker 1>your hand and I went to swatch it and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>We literally looked at it. All I can see was

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<v Speaker 1>green in it. She looked at it, she looked at me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just like, okay, it was no way

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<v Speaker 1>to spin it, spin it to make it feel better work.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, all right, I gotta go back

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<v Speaker 1>to the drawing board. But that's how it happens, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. I didn't stress out about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I knew it had to happen there first because

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<v Speaker 1>no one talks to her, you know. And once we

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<v Speaker 1>got it right, then I was able to really mix

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<v Speaker 1>and blend all the other colors backwards nice. So that

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<v Speaker 1>was cool. So now you do have a shade that

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<v Speaker 1>can work for you in my brand, so I would

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<v Speaker 1>definitely make sure you get that. Thank you. And I

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<v Speaker 1>love this of color. By the way, I'm superde so

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<v Speaker 1>good this col um actually made that for Cassie. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really okay, Well, I'm wearing Okay, okay, I feel even

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<v Speaker 1>more special. Custom how does someone from Detroit and I

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<v Speaker 1>and I say that with endearment? Detroit? I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>is uh has been the underdog for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>When I hear you say names like Hillary Duff or

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<v Speaker 1>or a Stell, I'm just like, how do you how?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you make your way from Detroit to Hollywood? UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I was very ambitious. I've always been very ambitious. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that, UM, since I was a little kid, I've

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<v Speaker 1>never I didn't know how it was going to be successful.

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<v Speaker 1>I just knew I was going to be successful. And

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<v Speaker 1>there weren't a lot of people that necessarily believed in

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<v Speaker 1>that dream or maybe even I wouldn't say but didn't

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<v Speaker 1>believe in it. They just didn't know how to believe

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<v Speaker 1>in it. And UM, but I knew I had to Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to figure that out. And uh, I just

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<v Speaker 1>had made connections. So I used to work at a

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<v Speaker 1>radio station called w j LB. UM. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>number one station in the city, and I produced the

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<v Speaker 1>music the six to ten show from with Bushman at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. And UM, I end up meeting a woman

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<v Speaker 1>named Peggy Body, who was the arts development coordinator for

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<v Speaker 1>Bilten Records and Michael Bivns decided to do an album

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<v Speaker 1>project with a couple of kids in Detroit. So I

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<v Speaker 1>helped to kind of find those groups. I went to

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<v Speaker 1>intern for her. Then it turned into me actually styling

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<v Speaker 1>one of the groups. And I was like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>is dope, and you know, like, okay, so I'm starting

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<v Speaker 1>to put the words together for the things that I

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<v Speaker 1>had interest in, but I didn't know what they were,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so find like, oh, fashion stylist, okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>like makeup artist, how you like maybe seventeen or eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>around this time, and uh, and it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>just a good It was just a good time, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, like just figuring all of that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff out. So um, having worked on that, I styled

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<v Speaker 1>my first video and all that stuff, and fast forward.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a friend who was a director, a local director.

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<v Speaker 1>She ended up getting a job as an art department

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator on UM on eight Mile, a movie eight Mile

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<v Speaker 1>with eminem and Brittany Murphy. And she was an age

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<v Speaker 1>you don't even need to show and you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>a mile? Then what are you doing? I don't know?

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so so she was like a j like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm working on this movie. You need to give me

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<v Speaker 1>your resume. And at that time I had got a

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<v Speaker 1>job at a max store to just kind of learn

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<v Speaker 1>makeup and everything. I was just trying to learn everything

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<v Speaker 1>I could, you know, And um, I gave him my

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<v Speaker 1>resume for a wardrobe and for makeup, and the wardrobe

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<v Speaker 1>department actually got back to me first. Um. So with

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<v Speaker 1>eight Mile, I was actually walking into my job, my

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<v Speaker 1>part time job at mac and uh. And I only

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<v Speaker 1>took this job because I really wanted to just learn

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<v Speaker 1>skin and foundation, because I, you know, I worked with

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<v Speaker 1>an artist prior to that, and the makeup partis that

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<v Speaker 1>we had hired could not get the references. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really big on reference, Like I just you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I was taught, you know. So when the makeup

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<v Speaker 1>artists did her own thing outside of the book of

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<v Speaker 1>reference that we had created, I was like what. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, can you show me this in the book?

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<v Speaker 1>And she was like, oh, I just decided to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I was like, no, I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>literal about my references. I wish I had your stuff

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<v Speaker 1>because I would do it myself, you know. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think it sounded kind of rude when it came out,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's a lot of money on the line, right

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<v Speaker 1>and we're doing an album cover shoot, so um, I

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<v Speaker 1>took the girl to a Mac, to that Mac store

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, hey, like, can you guys recreate

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<v Speaker 1>one of these looks? And because I thought about what

0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I said, I was I'm gonna learn how to do

0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:03.360
<v Speaker 1>the makeup that I want to see, um, just to

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<v Speaker 1>see if I could do it. They end up hiring

0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:08.719
<v Speaker 1>me because I went back for a job on this

0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:13.640
<v Speaker 1>particular day that that's costume supervisor called. I was walking

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<v Speaker 1>into that job and they're like, hey, like, we'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to interview you. We have your resume, like what can

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<v Speaker 1>you know? Can you come down and meet us? And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, like, you know, I'm getting ready

0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:23.640
<v Speaker 1>to walk into work, like can we you know, can

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<v Speaker 1>we do it like another day? And uh, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm talking. We have a I've never been on

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<v Speaker 1>this side of the table. Feel sure. I'm sure I'm

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<v Speaker 1>piste off all the video guys in the room, but

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, I'm so sorry. It looks great, So go

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<v Speaker 1>on continue with this. You and I can talk for days,

0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:56.200
<v Speaker 1>just so you know, I feel like we can future.

0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Let's do it, let's do that, let's let's not stop this.

0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.400
<v Speaker 1>So um so John Casey called me. He was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>like can you come down for an interview? And I

0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:07.199
<v Speaker 1>was just like uh. I was like, I'm walking into

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<v Speaker 1>work right now. Can we do it like another day?

0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.240
<v Speaker 1>Like no, Like we're actually trying to look for this

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<v Speaker 1>right now, so you know, if something else comes up,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll give you a call back. And in that moment,

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<v Speaker 1>like I was devastated, like my heart literally dropped because

0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:23.320
<v Speaker 1>it was just like hold on, like what just happened here?

0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm walking into a job that is not my

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<v Speaker 1>career at all, to not go an interview for the

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<v Speaker 1>job that absolutely my career go you know what I mean?

0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:40.280
<v Speaker 1>And I was like no. I just couldn't believe it

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<v Speaker 1>was happening to me. And I was heartbroken, you know,

0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:45.520
<v Speaker 1>to be honest, So you you actually showed up to work, Well,

0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:46.839
<v Speaker 1>I was right there. I was in front of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in front of the door. I couldn't I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't have. I didn't, you know. But I'm very loyal

0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.200
<v Speaker 1>and I'm also committed. Like when I make commitments like

0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I you know, it's like you keep your commitments, right,

0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:57.679
<v Speaker 1>You don't just you don't just bail on people like

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<v Speaker 1>they were depending. Um, I don't think I did, Like

0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:04.240
<v Speaker 1>I literally thought. That's when I was like, I'll never

0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:07.520
<v Speaker 1>let I'll never let something like that happened to me again,

0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, like this is my this is my life

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<v Speaker 1>on the line. You know. So I was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>eight Mile with a photographer looking at the photographs that

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<v Speaker 1>we had worked on and I'm gonna turn this up

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit. And what was he doing here?

0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:23.440
<v Speaker 1>We were looking at the pictures and I got another

0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:24.760
<v Speaker 1>phone call and I was like, yeah, like where are

0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:26.120
<v Speaker 1>you guys at, Like I'll come and meet you. I'm

0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:28.040
<v Speaker 1>actually on eight Mile, like right now. And they were

0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:29.920
<v Speaker 1>like okay, cool, like come down and meet us. I

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<v Speaker 1>did have to work that day at the Max door um,

0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:35.680
<v Speaker 1>and when I got down there, they were like hey,

0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:37.600
<v Speaker 1>like you know, so this is the job. It is

0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.600
<v Speaker 1>doing laundry overnight. And I was like okay, sounds good

0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and they were like are you concerned? I was like no,

0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Like can you do laundry? Was like yeah, like I can.

0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I can figure it out. If you show me what

0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:48.080
<v Speaker 1>you need, I'll do. And it's like it was like, well,

0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:49.600
<v Speaker 1>you're probably thinking like why do we need you to

0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.160
<v Speaker 1>do laundry? And I was like, yeah, like why do

0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:53.680
<v Speaker 1>you need me to do laundry? And they're like, well

0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:57.640
<v Speaker 1>because in Hollywood, like we have you know, overnight laundry

0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.600
<v Speaker 1>services that send the costumes out and they come back

0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:02.920
<v Speaker 1>the next morning fresh for the actors. Are cool like,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously we're in Detroit, we don't have that cleaners, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be the twenty four cleaner. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, sounds good. Like this job doesn't pay very well,

0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:12.600
<v Speaker 1>it's not. I was hoping you're going to stay it

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<v Speaker 1>paid well. They're like, it doesn't pay a lot, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>pay a lot, Like, well, how much does it pay?

0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.360
<v Speaker 1>It's like, well it pays. Um it pays a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a day. Is it's the right one? Yeah? Um,

0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:23.680
<v Speaker 1>since it pays a hundred dollars a day. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, well that sounds good. I'll take that

0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:29.800
<v Speaker 1>and um like you're sure? I was like yeah, And

0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:31.200
<v Speaker 1>then I was like when do you need me to start?

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<v Speaker 1>Like can you start right now? I was like I sure, can.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me make a phone call. So it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>you went from you were doing makeup. You temporarily was

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<v Speaker 1>the laundry man, which is amazing because I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people, well some people probably would have taken it,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of people maybe what a half. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that was a good judgment call on your part,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. I mean it's not always about the money,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's where a lot of people out

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<v Speaker 1>on opportunities these days, because they're thinking about the money,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when you don't have experience. Now, yes I had

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<v Speaker 1>some experience, but I had never worked on a movie,

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<v Speaker 1>like a major motion picture before, not not enough to

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<v Speaker 1>where I could demand anything. And you and again, there

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<v Speaker 1>was a bigger picture, and the bigger picture was for

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<v Speaker 1>someone to want to take me out of Detroit, to

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<v Speaker 1>like take me out of their wing and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you're coming with us, Like when this when this movie

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<v Speaker 1>leaves here, I want to go with it. So that

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<v Speaker 1>week that I ended up in the hospital and not

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<v Speaker 1>being able to go, I told the doctor I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>like when do we start, Like how do we get

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<v Speaker 1>this going? He's like, what are you? Like? Where are

0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:36.120
<v Speaker 1>you in such a rush? I was like, I said,

0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I have a flight on Friday. I said, He's like,

0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:39.320
<v Speaker 1>where are you going? So I'm going to l A.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to start a new life, Like I literally

0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:43.040
<v Speaker 1>those are my words. I was like, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>start my new life on Friday, I'll be I'm moving

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<v Speaker 1>to l A. My dad end up telling me that

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't gonna happen that way, And it took about

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<v Speaker 1>two months from my face to go back down. But

0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I started watching behind the music, and I want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>on the last day of my appointment, where everything was

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<v Speaker 1>clear and I was good to go, my car blew

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<v Speaker 1>up up, Like the engine in my car had blown up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like car like one of my my home girls

0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:08.760
<v Speaker 1>like given me, you know. So um, I was just

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<v Speaker 1>like I just started laughing because I was like, what

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<v Speaker 1>am I gonna do? Like what like I don't have

0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't have ship else, you know what I mean?

0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:18.159
<v Speaker 1>Like my I had burnt my hand. I had a

0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:20.439
<v Speaker 1>third degree burn on my hand, you know, which had

0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:23.040
<v Speaker 1>happened like a couple of weeks before that. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, what is happening with this city? Like why

0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.359
<v Speaker 1>is it trying to hold me back like this? And

0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:29.480
<v Speaker 1>did you feel like it was holding you back or

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel like and I and I sometimes feel

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<v Speaker 1>this way, like sometimes when you're so focused, I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>for lack of better words, I'm not trying to object

0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:41.480
<v Speaker 1>to anyone spiritually, but I always feel like the devil

0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:43.800
<v Speaker 1>comes to mess with you right when you're either like

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<v Speaker 1>so close to the goal. It's like I'm gonna distract

0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:47.680
<v Speaker 1>you with a whole bunch of drift. Brath, do you

0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:49.399
<v Speaker 1>feel like it was that or do you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it was just Detroit was like I'm determined to keep

0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:52.600
<v Speaker 1>you here. I don't think it was. I think it

0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:53.960
<v Speaker 1>was the people, Like I mean, you know, I felt

0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:56.280
<v Speaker 1>like my brother was like, really, you know, sad that

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna leave because he felt like maybe I

0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:00.720
<v Speaker 1>was leaving him behind. Um. And I think that it

0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:02.119
<v Speaker 1>was just a lot of I think it was a

0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:08.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of sad energy more than anything. UM. Moreover, I

0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:10.720
<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't want us to go out of

0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:13.719
<v Speaker 1>business over here. Um. I think it was a lot

0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:15.960
<v Speaker 1>of that. So this next round, it was really just

0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:18.560
<v Speaker 1>more or less keeping it to myself and like keeping

0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:22.879
<v Speaker 1>it locked inside, but also not allowing whatever that energy

0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:27.240
<v Speaker 1>was too overpower my dream. You know, like I knew

0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.879
<v Speaker 1>I still had to accomplish the stream and um, and

0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:33.040
<v Speaker 1>I just found myself like watching behind the music, and

0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:35.359
<v Speaker 1>and uh I watched one on Ditty and he was

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<v Speaker 1>going back and forth from like d C to UH,

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<v Speaker 1>from DC to UH New York and is this one

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<v Speaker 1>for this one? Yes? And he use our sauce. This

0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:50.159
<v Speaker 1>is our sauce. So this is this is store bought sauce.

0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Just so you know, stot sauce progress with the meat,

0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:59.080
<v Speaker 1>well the meat flavor flavor. Yeah, there's an interesting meat flavor,

0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:05.160
<v Speaker 1>but it's really good. So uh, I was watching behind

0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:07.399
<v Speaker 1>the music. So I watched Jlo, I watched Diddy, and

0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:09.280
<v Speaker 1>I watched Left Eye and each of them had like

0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:11.320
<v Speaker 1>seven hundred and fifty bucks or like one was on

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<v Speaker 1>the bus, like Diddy was on the bus back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth from DC to New York. J Loo had got

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<v Speaker 1>kicked out of her house. You know, I was living

0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:19.359
<v Speaker 1>in the basement of our dance studio, and uh, you know,

0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:22.359
<v Speaker 1>she basically caught the bus uh to l A to

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<v Speaker 1>be a fly girl and you know, ended up dance

0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:27.160
<v Speaker 1>for Janet Jackson and became Jennifer Lopez. And then Left

0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:29.959
<v Speaker 1>Eye she took a bus to Philly with seven hundred

0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:32.359
<v Speaker 1>bucks and got into TLC and became one of the

0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:35.240
<v Speaker 1>biggest selling groups of all time. So it's like, all right, cool,

0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:36.920
<v Speaker 1>So how much money you got left? I got about

0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:41.040
<v Speaker 1>seven hundred bucks left for my savings and uh, and

0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm just gonna get on the bus.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what it is. And I got on

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<v Speaker 1>the bus. I don't let that heat up a little

0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:51.200
<v Speaker 1>bit more. Um. I bought a bus ticket on a Greyhound.

0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:54.119
<v Speaker 1>I packed one bag of makeup like a carry on,

0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:56.840
<v Speaker 1>and one bag of clothes and I didn't tell anybody.

0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:59.600
<v Speaker 1>My brother was actually supposed to drop me off, and

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<v Speaker 1>he out there late and the day I planned to leave,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was already in a cab and when he

0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:09.080
<v Speaker 1>finally showed up, and I just threw my keys out

0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:10.560
<v Speaker 1>the window and I was like, hey, I'll call you

0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:14.800
<v Speaker 1>when I get there. And and because I just couldn't

0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:16.199
<v Speaker 1>be I couldn't miss it, you know what I mean, Like,

0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:17.800
<v Speaker 1>And that was like another one of those things where

0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:19.520
<v Speaker 1>the universe was just gonna try to step in and

0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:21.680
<v Speaker 1>stop me because I would if I had been waiting

0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:23.520
<v Speaker 1>on him, then I would have gotten there late and

0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I would have missed my bus. So I got down there.

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<v Speaker 1>I called my mother as the bus was backing out,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, and I was like, Hey, I think I'm

0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:34.119
<v Speaker 1>gonna try to go to l A again. And she

0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:35.639
<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, like when do you think you're gonna go?

0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:38.760
<v Speaker 1>And I was like actually right now. She's like where

0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:41.639
<v Speaker 1>are you? I was like, I am on a Greyhound

0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:45.920
<v Speaker 1>and she was like okay, uh, when you come back?

0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:48.320
<v Speaker 1>And I was like I don't know. And she's like

0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:49.479
<v Speaker 1>how long is it gonna take you to get there?

0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:51.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like three days. And she was like, when

0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:53.240
<v Speaker 1>you call me when you get there. And I was like, yeah,

0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:55.240
<v Speaker 1>I'll call you when I get there. And I got

0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:58.240
<v Speaker 1>off the phone and I actually I just started to

0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:00.160
<v Speaker 1>cry a little bit, you know what I mean. Think

0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:01.359
<v Speaker 1>it was like I'm even feeling like I want to

0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:06.520
<v Speaker 1>cry now, but like because at that moment just always

0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:08.560
<v Speaker 1>like that's the first time that I ever was like

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<v Speaker 1>getting ready to like just do something as big on

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<v Speaker 1>my own, you know, and uh, and I've been I

0:21:13.840 --> 0:21:15.679
<v Speaker 1>felt like I've been fighting hard for that moment and

0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:21.080
<v Speaker 1>it was finally here. So backed out. Now halfway through

0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:23.280
<v Speaker 1>the trip, maybe I got to Vegas, so I called

0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:27.159
<v Speaker 1>Mark Bridges and this reminds you this two months later. No,

0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:29.800
<v Speaker 1>so we backed out. We backed out of the out

0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:32.040
<v Speaker 1>of the depot. But we're like two days in the

0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:34.840
<v Speaker 1>trip now and I'm in Vegas. And this is also

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<v Speaker 1>two months later from when I had originally spoke to

0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Mark about staying at his place when he offered, and Uh,

0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I was like, hey, Marcus AJ like. He was like, hey,

0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:44.639
<v Speaker 1>what's up? A J Like, how you doing? I was like,

0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing good. He said, you're feeling better. I was like, yeah,

0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:47.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling much better. Like how are you? He's like

0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:50.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing great. Um, I know how I want to

0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:54.280
<v Speaker 1>do this. So then I said, hey, is it still

0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:58.080
<v Speaker 1>okay if I come and stay at your place? And

0:21:58.280 --> 0:21:59.920
<v Speaker 1>he was like yeah, Like when do you think you

0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:03.119
<v Speaker 1>want to come? I was like, I'll be there tomorrow.

0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:06.600
<v Speaker 1>It was like where are you? I was like, I'm

0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:09.240
<v Speaker 1>on a greyhound. I said, I know it's like short notice,

0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:11.600
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't. I didn't have a I just couldn't

0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:14.880
<v Speaker 1>think about it. I had a window of opportunity. It Oh,

0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:16.639
<v Speaker 1>the door opened and I had to go with it.

0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:18.760
<v Speaker 1>And uh, he was like, you know what, just tell

0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:20.359
<v Speaker 1>me where to pick you up and I'll be there

0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:24.520
<v Speaker 1>and like, can you turn it down for me? And uh,

0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:25.879
<v Speaker 1>and he was there and to pick me up and

0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:27.720
<v Speaker 1>literally that was that was the first day to the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of my life, like you know, like it just

0:22:30.440 --> 0:22:33.760
<v Speaker 1>it just went from there, Like I mean, the awesomeness

0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:35.920
<v Speaker 1>that was that I got to experience just even living

0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:38.000
<v Speaker 1>with him, you know, like at least a Silverstone was

0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:41.400
<v Speaker 1>like in our kitchen like one morning and I walked out.

0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:45.120
<v Speaker 1>It was crazy. I have to ask now, and only

0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:49.800
<v Speaker 1>because we're cutting short and it sucks because I have

0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:53.320
<v Speaker 1>so many questions. But I talked to when it comes

0:22:53.320 --> 0:22:55.639
<v Speaker 1>to know you don't um, when it comes to A J.

0:22:55.800 --> 0:22:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Crimson Beauty, Yeah, what was like some of the biggest

0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:02.359
<v Speaker 1>hurdles getting the brand off the ground. And I have

0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:07.840
<v Speaker 1>to know, like insider SCOOPO wearing too many hats too, Okay,

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I can see that. So I actually, luckily, like at

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:10.920
<v Speaker 1>the time I did Agan terms of you, I was

0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:15.280
<v Speaker 1>also running another business, so um, I didn't have to uh,

0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:18.200
<v Speaker 1>So I wasn't struggling. I wasn't on my knuckles, you

0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:19.400
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, like I was when I first

0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:23.199
<v Speaker 1>got to l A. But um, I think the biggest

0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:24.240
<v Speaker 1>thing I think. I want to say that one of

0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:27.040
<v Speaker 1>the biggest challenges was, like in our growth process was

0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:32.879
<v Speaker 1>dealing with um would be would be investors think or

0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:35.440
<v Speaker 1>even thinking that I needed an investor, you know what

0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:38.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, because everybody will have you thinking like, oh,

0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:40.160
<v Speaker 1>you you know, you should be doing this, you should

0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:41.960
<v Speaker 1>be selling this much product. You could do this, Like

0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:45.080
<v Speaker 1>when I when I first launched it, I did UM

0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:50.639
<v Speaker 1>I did about sixty thousand in in two months, like

0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:52.320
<v Speaker 1>and that was at launch, you know what I mean.

0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:54.040
<v Speaker 1>And that was just no funding, that was no fundy,

0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:56.640
<v Speaker 1>that was me funding it and uh and we're still

0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:58.800
<v Speaker 1>so funded. Actually, I was like, I'm gonna build this

0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:01.720
<v Speaker 1>business and it's gonna fund itself, you know. And uh

0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:03.760
<v Speaker 1>and we'll just grow that way. And so I did

0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:05.919
<v Speaker 1>that sixty thousand just offer Instagram, you know. And that

0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:08.320
<v Speaker 1>was when when you really could do it off Instagram.

0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:14.240
<v Speaker 1>And I love our meal. This meal looks so good.

0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:17.199
<v Speaker 1>I wants to go home and make it for my

0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 1>mate so he can think I'm a gourmet chef because

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 1>this is the best looking eating want broken you don't

0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:26.240
<v Speaker 1>I've ever seen Listen, you know, Like I said in

0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:28.959
<v Speaker 1>the beginning, I think broke as a mind broke as

0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:30.800
<v Speaker 1>a mindset, you know what I mean? And I've never

0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:33.360
<v Speaker 1>my god dad said I had rich taste but poor pockets.

0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:35.520
<v Speaker 1>But so's it's about taste, you know what I mean.

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I think you just have to kind of go into

0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:38.639
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to just because you don't have a

0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:42.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of money doesn't mean it looks so lovely. Everyone

0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:44.960
<v Speaker 1>to live like it today. We don't have overhead cameras,

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:47.280
<v Speaker 1>so well I wouln't have over and I don't hopefully

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:48.920
<v Speaker 1>can see it. But okay, I want you to look

0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:51.960
<v Speaker 1>so good, so hopefully if you need salt, I don't

0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:55.040
<v Speaker 1>think I'll need salt or pepper. Good sit down with you,

0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 1>yes please, you slaved in the kitchen for me and

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I got my burners. Yeah, we have the Verdi classic

0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:09.199
<v Speaker 1>Verness gingerrele mm hmm delicious, so you can't taste the difference.

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I haven't had that so long. So good, So I'm

0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:15.879
<v Speaker 1>gonna try and take a bite. Well, I'm gonna let

0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:19.120
<v Speaker 1>you take a bite, hopefully, because I didn't taste any

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:22.159
<v Speaker 1>of this, but I think it's this looks so delicious.

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:28.639
<v Speaker 1>So this is green onions? Um, no, no onions, green pepper,

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:38.200
<v Speaker 1>vegan butter meat, spaghetti sauce, spaghetti, and polish sausage. And

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:41.000
<v Speaker 1>it looks amazing. I was surprised you didn't add cheese

0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:45.679
<v Speaker 1>to this dish. No, no day. M hmm. This is

0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 1>so good. Totally finishing this. I'm definitely gonna put it.

0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:54.159
<v Speaker 1>But I'm surprised that you're not taking fun because I

0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:56.879
<v Speaker 1>see a lot of venture capitalists now all of a sudden,

0:25:57.240 --> 0:25:59.160
<v Speaker 1>to say all of a sudden, but it's true, all

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden's stepping up, and you see brands also

0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:04.920
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, not only you know, taking in brands,

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:08.359
<v Speaker 1>but they're also giving decent shelving space, which is yeah,

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:11.480
<v Speaker 1>a big deal. I felt like for me, the conversations

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 1>I was having they weren't lining up with my values.

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 1>They didn't. They said they saw the vision, but I

0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:19.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't feel like they were there. They were really there

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:22.119
<v Speaker 1>to try to take over the business. And for me,

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:24.600
<v Speaker 1>it was never. I didn't put my name on this

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:27.359
<v Speaker 1>company to be an employee of my own company, you

0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:28.959
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like, I didn't do that. And

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I even called Bobby Brown, like, you know, twenty five

0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:36.399
<v Speaker 1>years in the business, you know, billion dollar brand, sold

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:38.359
<v Speaker 1>it to Estate Lauder. I looked at her in the

0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:40.639
<v Speaker 1>d M because I was I was like, who can

0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I talk to that has been where I've where I'm

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 1>trying to go, that can offer me some guidance because

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 1>when I looked to the people to my left and

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:52.200
<v Speaker 1>to my right, people weren't really actively looking to share,

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 1>you know. And it was also like, who can you

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:57.160
<v Speaker 1>who can you be vulnerable with, you know, without people

0:26:57.200 --> 0:26:59.280
<v Speaker 1>looking down on you, you know, or feeling like or

0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 1>making you feel you're not successful or at what you're

0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:03.520
<v Speaker 1>trying to do. And you know, so I just took

0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:06.520
<v Speaker 1>a chance on contacting her and uh and we had

0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:08.560
<v Speaker 1>a really great conversation and you know, and one of

0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:10.040
<v Speaker 1>the things I said, Hey, I need like two million

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 1>dollars like one will you give it to me? Because

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, because you got it? She did. She responded.

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:16.959
<v Speaker 1>She was like, I was like, hey, can we can

0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:18.199
<v Speaker 1>we jump on a call? You know, I don't know

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 1>if you remember me. I met you backstage and a

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 1>fashion show like with a Stelle like years ago. It

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 1>would be you know, I have some questions about my

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:25.919
<v Speaker 1>beauty business. I don't even know if you know about it,

0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:27.879
<v Speaker 1>but you know, here's my page. Check it out. Let

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 1>me know. I was literally sleeping. And I have been

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 1>going through one of the hardest times of my business.

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 1>You know. I was trying to open I had a

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 1>l a location. I was trying to open a New

0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 1>York location. I had hired these people to like paint,

0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:41.160
<v Speaker 1>They painted it all wrong, so I had to fly

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:43.920
<v Speaker 1>to you know, New York to paint it myself because

0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't gonna pay to do it again. I had

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:47.960
<v Speaker 1>a girl who would quit on me, you know, just abruptly,

0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:50.200
<v Speaker 1>like during a holiday weekend. It was just so many things,

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 1>and I had one employee that was often We're a

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 1>very small team, so it's just like this is too much.

0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 1>And I literally found myself in Times Square like what

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 1>am I doing? And I was like what am I doing?

0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:04.199
<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is not how it's supposed to be, Like,

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:06.560
<v Speaker 1>this is not how it's supposed to feel like, you know,

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I can't go back to my friend's house because it's

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:10.159
<v Speaker 1>four o'clock in the morning because I just got I

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 1>don't want to wake them up, you know what I mean.

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:14.920
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like I don't I can't go but

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:17.320
<v Speaker 1>check into a hotel, right now because the timing is

0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:19.640
<v Speaker 1>all I was like, this is this is not how

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:22.200
<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to work, you know. So when I hit

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 1>her up, it was really out of It was a

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:30.480
<v Speaker 1>bit of iolt say, desperation. I was just needed the

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:35.080
<v Speaker 1>right guidance. I needed somebody to care and somebody just

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:36.960
<v Speaker 1>to tell me like that I'm on the right path.

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 1>I needed a sign that I was on the right path.

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 1>So when I asked, I was like, hey, like, you know,

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 1>this is what I'm trying to do. This is the

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 1>conversations that I'm having. Uh, you know, this is the

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of money I need, you know. She said, why

0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 1>did you get you open the Stars? Because every every

0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 1>retailer that I went to told me that black women

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 1>don't shop here and they didn't want to take my brand.

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't that my brand wasn't good or good

0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 1>enough because it rivals. My brand is the blue blue

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:01.560
<v Speaker 1>for a lot of brands that are out there now,

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's the benchmark. So it's just like I

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 1>was like, I had to open I had to make

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 1>my own way. I've always had to make my own way,

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 1>so I was not not accustomed to doing that. But

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 1>in this particular case, I was like, hey, like, you know,

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 1>you're getting all this these mixed messages of like what

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>business is supposed to be and what your business is

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be like and um, and I was just

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.960
<v Speaker 1>trying to weigh my options. So I was like, I

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 1>think I need two million dollars to really take this

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 1>to the next level. Uh. You know, these are the

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 1>conversations I've been having. I was like, do you have

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:31.040
<v Speaker 1>two million dollars? You want to invest or a million?

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 1>She was like, well, I can't do it because you know,

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 1>like my deal with that State Louder upon her departure,

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 1>but it's very cool, and she said, don't take anybody's money.

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 1>She's like, don't take anybody. She said, you're not gonna

0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 1>want to hear this, but don't take anybody's money. And

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like why and she said, because do you

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 1>do that, then the brand is no longer yours. It's

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 1>no longer yours, it belongs it belongs to the person

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 1>that gave you the money. And that you know, because

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I have seen that happen more times than not. People

0:29:57.560 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>have gone into these deals prematurely and thinking like, oh,

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I need this investor, I need to do this as

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 1>opposed to It wasn't that I need an investor. I

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 1>just needed more sales. I needed more sales. I needed

0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 1>to hit the ground running and more impact and and

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 1>that was what we did. So after having that conversation,

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 1>I had turned down those bad deals because they really

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 1>were bad deals, Like somebody was trying to get in

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 1>my company for zero dollars and I was like, do

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:22.920
<v Speaker 1>you I do you realize I can make this in

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 1>like the short amount of time I would shut the

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 1>store down. I'll do I'll liquidate before I do you know,

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 1>before I do this kind of deal. And um, and

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>that was what I did. And you know, I'm proud

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>of my journey. I'm I'm proud of the way that

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 1>I stepped my guns and yeah, a hundred percent of it.

0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>But I fought from a hundred percent of my business

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 1>before we close out. Uh, you own a j Crems

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 1>and Beauty's. When the time comes, If the time comes,

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:53.560
<v Speaker 1>then yes, I will be open to have a bigger

0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:59.240
<v Speaker 1>conversation about you know, investment partners, but only when, only

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 1>when I'm ready and when when the brand is ready

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:04.040
<v Speaker 1>for that and let them beat down your door. I'm

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>just curious now, um, where are you? Where can people

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 1>pick up your products? I'm glad you asked, so you

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 1>can always get it from aj Crimson dot com. But

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 1>then also we're launching a North Droom. So I think

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>that probably by the time, definitely by the time this

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 1>comes out, Nordrom everybody. So I guess the black women

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 1>do go in North Drom, they do, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think this time everything is shifted, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>after coming off of you know, the Black Lives Movement, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, protests and people really doubling down on accountability

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<v Speaker 1>on the diversity that they say that they have, especially

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<v Speaker 1>and we have to give our hats off to Sharon

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<v Speaker 1>Shooter of Oma Beauty because she really kind of kicked

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<v Speaker 1>that conversation off and really all people down to the carpet.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think there was that conversation where it got

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<v Speaker 1>everybody on board. And this quarantine like really isolated us

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<v Speaker 1>to a point where we almost kind of when we're

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<v Speaker 1>going crazy, and we got to see the injustice that

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<v Speaker 1>was happening around us as opposed to like living in

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<v Speaker 1>our own little bubbles, right and uh, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the retailers, uh, you know, we had conversations with

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<v Speaker 1>but nors From felt the best. They actually as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to meet like pitching to them, they were pitching to us,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were saying, hey, like, we understand what you

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<v Speaker 1>what you're doing. We understand that we have this customer here.

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<v Speaker 1>We love what you've been doing. And what I'm creating

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<v Speaker 1>is something so different. You know, it's pro luxury, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, there isn't a black, black owned brand

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<v Speaker 1>that is a luxury brand, you know, And that was

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<v Speaker 1>what I set out to do and and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have a professional edge. It's pro solutions for

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<v Speaker 1>everyday women. So um, I love seeing that translate through.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that I'm with a retail partner that understands

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<v Speaker 1>like my goal and are willing to grow with me.

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<v Speaker 1>They represent that luxury so they're perfect. It's a perfect

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<v Speaker 1>sweet spot like for my brand for sure. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that was something too we had always been thinking about,

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<v Speaker 1>like where does Ajan Crimson get to live? Where does

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<v Speaker 1>Ajia Crimson Beauty get to live? Because we're not drug store,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and you know, we're not middle we're not massige,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like that middle ground. We really are, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a higher end brand. You know, we just happened to

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<v Speaker 1>speak to black women first and and it's an exciting time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited for you, and now it makes all

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<v Speaker 1>the sense in the world why we're eating a luxury

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<v Speaker 1>Eating all Broke meal. Thank you so much for coming

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<v Speaker 1>on an episode of Eating All Broke. I secretly want

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<v Speaker 1>you to come back, so hopefully, yes, come back and

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<v Speaker 1>share more stories, because I don't think there's enough time

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<v Speaker 1>in the world too. Even you have so much, like

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<v Speaker 1>even behind the scenes, and just I feel like there's

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<v Speaker 1>so much knowledge and stuff we could talk about, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to building a brand and taking it

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<v Speaker 1>to other levels. So I hope you come back with

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<v Speaker 1>a even cooler dish. I'm sure I can think of

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<v Speaker 1>okay for sure. So thank you everyone for tuning in too,

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<v Speaker 1>Eating Wall Broke. I'm here with A J. Crimson from

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<v Speaker 1>A J. Crimson Beauty The Luxury of Beauty. Thank you

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