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Speaker 2: sure you heard this because it's making the rounds everywhere,

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Speaker 2: but it is so apropos. But PK suband talking about

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Speaker 2: the NBA, the NHL, and to me, this is everything.

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Speaker 2: This is this is all about sports. And look, we

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Speaker 2: miss foot ball. It's already over and we all miss

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Speaker 2: it because of what PK soup band is talking about. Man,

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Speaker 2: when it comes to all sports, this is the NBA's

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Speaker 2: biggest problem.

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Speaker 1: I love PK. I thought he was so.

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Speaker 2: True about what he talked about and that we'll play

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Speaker 2: it for a minute. But he basically talked about the

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Speaker 2: lack and used the NBA as a lack of honor

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Speaker 2: and a lack of pride. I thought it was a

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Speaker 2: fascinating dietrap that he went on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, it's interesting to me because there

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Speaker 3: is an element of what we just saw from the

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Speaker 3: NHL and from the Four Nations tournament that I don't

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Speaker 3: know can be replicated. Like it it was such a

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Speaker 3: special and specific moment. And there are certain times that

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Speaker 3: it feels like everybody comes together, and usually it's the Olympics, right,

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Speaker 3: But I mean, I think I can say pretty safely

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Speaker 3: without getting political, that we're completely divided right now as

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Speaker 3: a country. It's very aggressive, it's very angry, and all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden, yeah nobody was for a week. Everybody's

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Speaker 3: back together and it's like, oh, they boot our anthema,

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Speaker 3: let's know what we're gonna do there, Like it just

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Speaker 3: became this big galvanizing Oh, you know, we can argue

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Speaker 3: with our family, but you can't argue with us sort

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Speaker 1: And there's power to that.

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Speaker 3: And there is something different to the way I think

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Speaker 3: NHL players and hockey players in general are wired. There

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Speaker 3: is something different to national pride in hockey. I think

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Speaker 3: those are all real things, but it is hard, and

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Speaker 3: I know Wendy has said, why does one success have

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Speaker 3: to be another's failure. Essentially, why does this have to

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Speaker 3: have anything to do with other sports. I think it's

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Speaker 3: just hard to watch that at the same time that

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Speaker 3: we're watching the NBA All Star and then just going

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Speaker 3: back into the NBA action and not sit there and say, man,

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Speaker 3: this just makes it even tougher to stomach the effort

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a little bit even more pronounced.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm with you that it's the Four Nations and

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Speaker 2: we talked about on the show. I told you how

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Speaker 2: much fun it was. We both agreed how much we

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Speaker 2: loved it. And that was before USA Canada, right and

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Speaker 2: before the whole thing. There is still this lack of

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Speaker 2: like the NBA is broken right now, and I know

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Speaker 2: it's not fiscally broken, but the product is broken. And

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Speaker 2: it has to do with load management, and it has

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Speaker 2: cutting through injuries. Like the All Star Game is one thing,

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Speaker 2: but in my town, Paul George missed three games with

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Speaker 2: a pinky, Like that's just you.

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Speaker 1: You can't do that.

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Speaker 2: You can't miss three games because of a freaking pinky

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Speaker 1: God, I'm sorry, go ahead, No.

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Speaker 3: I hear that. And I think that's the important part

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Speaker 3: of moving this conversation forward, because look, I've argued continually

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Speaker 3: that All Star games are broken, and that you know,

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Speaker 3: as I've told you before, the way we consume basketball

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Speaker 3: Like the All Star Game was going to feel All

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Speaker 3: Star Weekend was going to feel more important twenty years

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Speaker 3: ago because you just couldn't see Michael and MJ and

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Speaker 3: And so I'm saying that because I think that those

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Speaker 3: may be broken, but I don't think that's a big deal.

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Speaker 3: The bigger deal is what you just mentioned, Like we

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Speaker 3: the court for much different reasons. Wemby obviously this is terrible.

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Speaker 3: I just when when is the When is the NBA

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Speaker 3: is like the game on the court never seems to matter.

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Speaker 3: It's always just drama off the court or what who's

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's fixable, but I think we do

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Speaker 3: have to sit here and look at it and say, man,

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Speaker 3: the the equation here for me is why do NHL

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Speaker 3: All Stars players care so much about four nations when

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Speaker 3: the NBA doesn't even care about the regular season games

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Speaker 3: that came after the All Star break. If that makes.

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Speaker 2: Sense, Yeah, it does. I think we're saying, you know,

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Speaker 2: similar things. They're all kind of intermingled or co mingled

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Speaker 1: I think it's a fun game.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a there should there should be a

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Speaker 2: little bit more pride.

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Speaker 2: I certainly from the European side there would be because

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Speaker 2: I do think that, first of all, the NBA is old,

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Speaker 2: and he's like, no, I want to beat him. What

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Speaker 2: are you talking about? You know, there was this incredible

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Speaker 2: pride to go out and win. And that's what's missing

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Speaker 2: in that league, which is the the the Kobe Bryant

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Speaker 2: to beat you, like you're not my friend. This isn't all.

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Speaker 2: This isn't all you know, kumbaya. We're like we're the

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Speaker 2: all that stuff, Like I'll never forget Iverson, right, Alan

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Speaker 2: Iverson was a flawed player, right in the sense that,

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Speaker 2: we talk about Luca being traded and because he's not

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Speaker 1: I mean that's true, right, Like, hey, hey, hey, I

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Speaker 2: He was just an amazing character, right, but man, when

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Speaker 1: He played. He used to.

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Speaker 2: He would play forty seven minutes a night and be

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Speaker 2: Like he wanted the ball, he loved it, he cared

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Speaker 1: Every night was a chance to play.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's what's missing through the competitiveness, the

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Speaker 2: coming up. But PK said, hey, guys, like what are

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Speaker 2: you playing for? You got all the money, so you're

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Speaker 2: not playing for money. Who are you playing for? Like,

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Speaker 2: there's gotta be a spirit of competition. And yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: it's a little unfair to compare four nations because it

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Speaker 2: does become there, there is that thing. But the other

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Speaker 2: point of hockey is those guys play every night. You know,

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Speaker 1: They grind it, you know.

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Speaker 3: Whereas But I'll take the counter to some of this

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Speaker 3: That's why we started playing the national anthem o show.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't because of America, honestly, it was because we

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Speaker 3: Canada is something that is I don't I don't know

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Speaker 3: we're being honest. And so you've got this hockey pride,

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Speaker 3: Like if that had been USA versus Finland, I don't

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Speaker 1: But that's my point. My point is not about that.

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Speaker 2: My points is given night, every given night, you could

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Speaker 2: say what you want, but Nathan McKinnon is playing, yeah

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess, but my guess my point, I guess.

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Speaker 3: I mean the cares like. But the point is who

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Speaker 2: About because basketball is more. It's not about the popularity.

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Speaker 2: And so what if the parent put out three hundred

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Speaker 3: Because how many people watch the NBA Finals versus how

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Speaker 3: It can't have meaning because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: The second that's gone. If you can't see that, you've

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Speaker 3: In hockey, it matters to a very small sect of people.

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Speaker 1: Get their popularity. Forget that.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think the majority of NBA fans feel

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not being cheated all day.

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Speaker 3: And if somebody goes out has the single greatest regular

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Speaker 3: Doesn't matter, It doesn't in February, doesn't matter matters.

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Speaker 2: The fact that you go out and compete, and you

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Speaker 2: to me. It's just it's not in the spirit of competition.

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Speaker 2: It's disgusting to me. With a fellas, Jason Fitz Anthony

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Speaker 2: what triggered me. Triggered me the get off my lawn

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Speaker 1: No, kids kids watch more than ever, kids are consuming. No,

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Speaker 2: The only person I can tell you that, since I

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Speaker 1: They don't watch. They consume My kids don't. My kids

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Speaker 3: Course they don't watch a game like that's that's it.

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Speaker 3: That's it again.

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Speaker 1: That's what are you talking about.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about the fact that the NBA still to them. Yes,

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Speaker 3: So you're telling me you never hold on your toe

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Speaker 2: First all they say it, So stop with your first

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Speaker 2: take argument. I don't even say that. You just said

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Speaker 3: I watched differently, Anthony, they watched differently due watch.

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Speaker 1: You're telling me again, you're telling me I'm the one

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Speaker 1: sit here and tell me how they consume smarts.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I built my whole, really, deally, my whole because

439
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Speaker 2: you have children, and you could speak of knowledge.

440
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Speaker 3: So because I don't have kids, that means I'm not

441
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Speaker 3: involved in any and and so am I in the middle.

442
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Speaker 1: Build my whole career on this, Anthony.

443
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 3: I built my whole.

444
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 1: Career assumption of highlights around the NBA.

445
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 3: You know that they are watching on whatever their app is,

446
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 3: whatever their favorite way is. They're watching. We see this

447
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 3: from podcast numbers that are deep dip is.

448
00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 2: They're watching highlights and you're playing two k I'm not

449
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 2: saying they have no where. You to misconstrue that that

450
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 2: I say that they have no concept of the NBA

451
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 2: is That's not what I'm saying. Oh my God, it's

452
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 2: no different than the movement. God, your are the way

453
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 2: you argue. I swear to God, I want to come

454
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 2: through the phone. It's unbelievable. You're picking little things out.

455
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 2: That's not the issue that I'm even talking about.

456
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Speaker 3: You're talking about this, You're talking about this effort issue

457
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 3: on a Tuesday night NBA game. The history won't remember.

458
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Speaker 3: And that's just so like, if I'm an NBA player.

459
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Speaker 2: I mean, don't play the freaking game, dude. Be fine,

460
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 2: You're right. I can't even discuss this with you. For

461
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 2: if it doesn't matter to play, if none of that matters,

462
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 2: why you're playing.

463
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Speaker 1: It matters, but it doesn't matter the way that it

464
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Speaker 1: used to, Like, it just doesn't. Either it does or

465
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Speaker 1: it doesn't. So you tell me right now that you.

466
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Speaker 3: Want that first take argument. Either it does or it doesn't.

467
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 3: There's variable as to how much things matter. If you're

468
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 3: looking around and you're like, man, man, my pinky's my

469
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 3: pinky doesn't feel right, the doctors are looking at and saying, well,

470
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 3: you know what, we need you for these games now.

471
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 3: It's no different than the analytics conversation we've had about baseball.

472
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Speaker 3: There are certain times that you look at it and

473
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Speaker 3: it's like, hey, man, I don't know this, this leg

474
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Speaker 3: doesn't feel good? All right, Well shut it down because

475
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 3: we need you more at the end of the season

476
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Speaker 3: or shut it down because you know, we're looking at

477
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Speaker 3: your career as a whole, because we have more.

478
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Speaker 1: Information that God forbid that Pinky flares up.

479
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Speaker 3: I mean, Paul George goes out there and plays on

480
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Speaker 3: a Tuesday night with the bum Pinky, then that's a

481
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 3: great valiant effort. But if they get beaten the first

482
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Speaker 3: round of the playoffs, ain't nobody gonna care.

483
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Speaker 1: So it's not about this.

484
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Speaker 2: Here's where I completely disagree with you that you're saying

485
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Speaker 2: what happens in January happens, it matters in June. In

486
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Speaker 2: that what I'm trying to point to you is, and

487
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Speaker 2: forgive me, where is so many things at Dori Yark's

488
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Speaker 2: last forty minutes that I want I want to go

489
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Speaker 2: back to because I don't think we're nowhere near on

490
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Speaker 2: the same page of anything, even in our arguments are

491
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 2: way wildly, uh just off kilter, because I guess it's

492
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Speaker 2: such a big subject, but one night matters just to

493
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Speaker 2: watch a game. It's just sometimes it's like, if you

494
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Speaker 2: if you don't have the basis of going to a

495
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Speaker 2: game or having a game, why play it? Why play

496
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Speaker 2: the game? If if you're telling me that it really

497
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Speaker 2: has no bearing on anything. That a picky, which is

498
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Speaker 2: not a knee. If that doesn't matter, then why even play?

499
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Speaker 1: Then? Like so why buy ticket? Why watch it on TV?

500
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Speaker 5: It?

501
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Speaker 3: There has to be scales to how much this stuff matters,

502
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 3: Like there there has the picky.

503
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Speaker 2: Is if they're like you say, the knee, I go,

504
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Speaker 2: I get it right, you know something long term that

505
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 2: can impact you during a playoff front. I get where

506
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 2: you're I get your point right, But an ancillary pinky

507
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: that will never affect anything in the future. Then you know,

508
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 2: millions of players throughout the time have taped their fingers

509
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 2: together because it's uncomfortable to you. You don't want to

510
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: play like, I don't know how to react to that.

511
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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't. Here's what I'm gonna presume. And

512
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Speaker 3: this is one of the core parts what we're different about,

513
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 3: you know, because we're talking about Paul George pinky here.

514
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna look at Paul George and I'm gonna presume

515
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Speaker 3: you know what you know your body better than I do.

516
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna presume when Paul George looks at that pinky

517
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 3: that it's not just oh man, my pinky's a little sore.

518
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna presume that he looks at it and says,

519
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 3: I just can't go, you know, And there are certainly,

520
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Speaker 3: I mean, we all seen the number of times in

521
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Speaker 3: the last two weeks that people have put up images

522
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Speaker 3: of Kobe after the game with everything iceed, or Michael

523
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 3: after the game with everything iced, and like, hey, that

524
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Speaker 3: that worked for each of them, and that worked in

525
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Speaker 3: each of their errors, respectively. I don't I mean, Paul

526
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Speaker 3: George thinks he's pinky can't go, then he thinks his

527
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Speaker 3: pinky can't go, Like I just I have a hard

528
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Speaker 3: time looking at any of these professional athletes and thinking, well,

529
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Speaker 3: you know, you're just soft, like I just at some

530
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Speaker 3: point I think you just you have to look around

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Speaker 3: in my mind and say, Okay, if he's not playing,

532
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 3: there's a reason he's not playing. Now. Does the regular

533
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Speaker 3: season have some of course, when when you roll the

534
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Speaker 3: ball out, you want everybody to go out and play

535
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Speaker 3: like they give a damn within games. And I think

536
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Speaker 3: part of this, the reason that it's perceived that players

537
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Speaker 3: don't give a damn is because basketball has become inherently

538
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 3: less physical over the last however many years so you

539
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 3: see guys get hurt, and you also see guys chucking

540
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 3: up threes everywhere, and it's just a different game. That

541
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Speaker 3: The reason that I started earlier with the Get off

542
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Speaker 3: My Lawn is because it is just a it's it's

543
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 3: such a different game at this point. The physicality that

544
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 3: we talk about from previous areas.

545
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Speaker 2: Is even a part of the physicality. But I mean,

546
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's an aspect of it. But

547
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Speaker 2: I think that's what I went to, the aspect of it.

548
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Speaker 2: I don't think it's about I don't. I don't view

549
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Speaker 2: it that way.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I just a lot of people think players

551
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Speaker 3: are soft.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't think George visicality.

553
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 3: Paul George thinks his pinky can't go, then it's pinky

554
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 3: can't go and like it at some point.

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Speaker 1: So I gotta ask you. That's because in Charlotte there was.

556
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Speaker 2: LaMelo ball mistake the load management for three games, right,

557
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: and I'm going, when you're six and seventeen, maybe one game,

558
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: But is that right?

559
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Speaker 3: I mean, who who is the creator of load management?

560
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 3: It's my I mean pop, right. Papavich's was the first

561
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Speaker 3: coach that really looked at everything and said load management

562
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Speaker 3: is going to be bet how part of how we

563
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 3: do Who's arguably one of the greatest coaches of all

564
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Speaker 3: time pop Right, So, like the whole load management argument,

565
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 3: like this all came from one of the greatest basketball

566
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Speaker 3: minds in history that looked around and said, we got

567
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 3: to start restingized because this doesn't work. And they all

568
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 3: respected him and they said, Okay, if that's what we're

569
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 3: going to do, then that's what we're going to do.

570
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Speaker 3: Like there is some level like I think we've taken

571
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Speaker 3: load management as like the person in the office that

572
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 3: we all know that barely shows up some days, and

573
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, that's Johnny over there, and he's

574
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 3: on the phone with his girlfriend the whole day at

575
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Speaker 3: work and then barely shows up and now he's not

576
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Speaker 3: even coming in load management, Like that's how we perceive it.

577
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 3: Like the entire concept of load management, as much as

578
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 3: fans continue to yell about it, the concept of load

579
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Speaker 3: management came from a basketball savant that looked around and said, hey,

580
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 3: we got to start managing some of this. So I

581
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Speaker 3: mean three gates to the league.

582
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Speaker 2: The league has has adapted some since that, and they've

583
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: scheduled way less back to backs, right right, Yeah, I mean,

584
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: I mean they've tried. They've extended the schedule to make

585
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 2: sure that the back to backs were limited.

586
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think the league has tried to do that.

587
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean, I give the NBA credit for trying

588
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 3: to evolve through a load management era. I just the

589
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 3: load management concept.

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Speaker 2: I just watch the subject. Ask you a question about sports.

591
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Speaker 2: Is there such a thing? And this is what PK said.

592
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Speaker 2: PK talked about the mentality, the culture of sports, and

593
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: he brought up hockey and versus basketball. And I'm not

594
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 2: telling you one is best. It's all about Obviously, the

595
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 2: NBA is much bigger than the NHL. Obviously in this country,

596
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: we love basketball, and around the world it's huge basketball

597
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: and the ANBA has a big, big part in that.

598
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Speaker 2: But he brought up the idea of pride and competitive spirit.

599
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: Do you believe in those court tenants?

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Speaker 1: Of course? Do you see it in the endless League

601
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: on a night in, night out? Basis? Yeah?

602
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 2: You do?

603
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, that's the basis of it. That's where agreed.

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Speaker 3: I covered PK for the Nashville Predators. I stood in

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Speaker 3: the locker room and talked to PK there are nights

606
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 3: that on a predator's team that I covered and it

607
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 3: was in the locker room every night. There were nights

608
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Speaker 3: that they didn't have it. There were nights they weren't great.

609
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Speaker 3: There was nights that PK didn't have.

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Speaker 1: It, Like there's a difference being great every night and

611
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Speaker 1: not no, no, no, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, and he didn't have that competitive five. There were

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00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 3: nights that you you could walk out of that locker

614
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: room and you knew, man that was the Stanley Cup

615
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 3: final team that I covered. And there were nights that

616
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Speaker 3: they they that it didn't feel like hockey was their

617
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 3: number one priority. There were nights that you know, and

618
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 3: and and we would what you do in those situations

619
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Speaker 3: when you're getting benefit of the doubt is you step

620
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 3: back and you say, oh man, you know what, just

621
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 3: just hard to focus in, hard to lock in. But

622
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Speaker 3: there were there were certainly nights that that you know,

623
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Speaker 3: there were certainly nights that I saw PK and his

624
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Speaker 3: teammates on and out and about at nash on Lower

625
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 3: Broadway before and after hockey.

626
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Speaker 2: So like I mean, when it comes to going out,

627
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Speaker 2: I got no I mean Dorty ever, the error where

628
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Speaker 2: I covered God blessed the training today and the dedication

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Speaker 2: of guys aren't.

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Speaker 1: Going out right.

631
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Speaker 2: They will go out like they like I remember guys

632
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Speaker 2: being out all night, like Mike right like you know A,

633
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: I I remember those nights, those good Those dudes will

634
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: be out and about all the time, but there are

635
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: still died on the floor to the next night.

636
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Speaker 1: I can bring up offers and why today I do that.

637
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Speaker 2: We're gonna take quick to Yo well cover right bat

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Speaker 2: Fellas hanging out right here, Fox Sports Radio.

639
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Speaker 5: I'm sick and tired of making athletes greats, all time

640
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 5: greats that aren't the best examples.

641
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Speaker 1: Stephen A.

642
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 5: You want athletes to be educated on this and understand this.

643
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 5: They got to understand the importance of showing up to

644
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 5: the All Star Game and.

645
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: Being on the court.

646
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 5: Because you're making one hundred two hundredree hundred million, you

647
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 5: should be out there banged up.

648
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: You should be.

649
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Speaker 6: That's why we pay you is to max out. I

650
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 6: don't care if you play fifty years. I want your

651
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 6: best ten. I want you on the court dominating. I

652
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 6: want you to go all out.

653
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Speaker 5: I want Michael Jordan, I want Kobe That's what I

654
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 5: want in every sport that's the guy that I follow.

655
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Speaker 1: You're a different version than that. You don't get my respect.

656
00:34:55,040 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: There's Peak Fizzy. I love him, oh man, I've always

657
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: loved him.

658
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: But he's the one clip that goes that goes viral.

659
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 2: WI is a different one, which is like he's on.

660
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 2: It's like a two minute die dribe. And I'm just

661
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 2: yelling Pete, preach, preach because I mean, listen, I am older,

662
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: all right, I'm gonna make no bones about it. I

663
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 2: come from it. I come from the Kobe generation. I do,

664
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 2: all right, I'm sorry, And so I have differential eyes.

665
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 2: I'm differentiating eyes. I'm not, you know, eleven like my

666
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 2: son Masimo. And I do know what's better, and I

667
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: do know what I like, I knew, and I care

668
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 2: about this stuff, all right. I care way too much

669
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 2: about sports, all right. I care way too much. I

670
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 2: love it, all right, I absolutely love it. I care

671
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: way too much about it. So when pe K sits

672
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: and that, I go, yeah, So that's where I'm coming from,

673
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 2: all right, Because I heard Rick Patino the of them, like,

674
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 2: did you see the documentary?

675
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

676
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that? That get off my

677
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: lawn too?

678
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 3: I mean no, I look a coach, a coach standing

679
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 3: up in front of his team and you know, approaching

680
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 3: where's your where's your competitive fire?

681
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 5: Like?

682
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 3: I think I think that's a fair question to ask.

683
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 3: Like I'm not saying it's unfair to ask some of

684
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 3: these questions about, you know, what everybody cares about. And

685
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 3: certainly I want to stress I think, you know, just

686
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 3: because we all we all look at each of our

687
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 3: opportunities in life and say how do I maximize those?

688
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 3: And if anyone's ever listened to the Fellas for two seconds,

689
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 3: you know that more than yo, we usually have nuanced conversations.

690
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 3: I will say this, there were plenty of nights music

691
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 3: much different than sports, plenty of knights though, when you're

692
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: on your two hundredth show that I didn't want to

693
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 3: go out and play. I was exhausted, and I for

694
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: me personally, I always thought about my first concert. Thought, man,

695
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 3: there's some ten year old out here and it's their

696
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 3: first concert, and I'm never going to be as cool

697
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 3: as bon Jovi was. I was my first concert, but

698
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make damn sure that for the next ninety

699
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 3: minutes that you know, if I can make a memory

700
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 3: for a kid I'm going to I think there's a

701
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 3: responsibility you have when you have the opportunity to get

702
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 3: paid doing what most people would kill to do. I

703
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 3: personally think there's a responsibility to go out and hammer

704
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 3: it and do it with absolutely everything that you possibly can.

705
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 3: And so you know, in my mind, I've certainly I've

706
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 3: been one of those guys that is, you know, as

707
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 3: puked on stage more times than I can count, and

708
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 3: you know, you just keep going on with the show

709
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 3: like that's just again different world music and sports. But

710
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 3: I certainly I think that when you take money from somebody,

711
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 3: you have a responsibility to give them everything that you

712
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 3: have back. So that that is part of a core

713
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: tenet of how I live. I can't change the fact

714
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 3: in my mind that that's not And I think most

715
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 3: of these athletes when they step out on the court,

716
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 3: they are like they are getting out there and given

717
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 3: what they got. I think there's a fine line, Like

718
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 3: I just now more than ever, especially with NBA players,

719
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 3: I think you end up with got a nick and

720
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 3: PK said loudly, you know, are you hurt or are

721
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 3: you injured? And I thought that was a you know,

722
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 3: obviously a poignant moment from him. He's like, if you're

723
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 3: if you're hurt, then get out there and play. If

724
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 3: you're injured, then you know how injured are you? And

725
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: I understand his point. I also look at all of

726
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 3: these guys playing in the NBA and in the NBA,

727
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 3: in the NHL, in Major League Baseball, and the marathons

728
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 3: of those seasons, and I just I think at some

729
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 3: point you have to look at at the change in

730
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 3: the world, and the change in the world is that

731
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 3: that's not necessarily the part of the mentality for everybody

732
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: playing eighty two games. Like you know, as I said

733
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 3: somebody on Twitter that said, you know, I talking about

734
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 3: load management for champions Do we remember how many games

735
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 3: Giannis didn't play the year the Bucks won?

736
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 5: No?

737
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 3: We do we remember the games that Jokich Mitch missed

738
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 3: during the the Nuggets championships. No, we certainly remember that

739
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 3: they won their champion.

740
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 2: You brought something up really interesting. You brought something that

741
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 2: if you're going to take money from someone, that you

742
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 2: want to give them the best possible show. And whether

743
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 2: you're right, and so therein lies the league issue, right

744
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 2: because they're charging and they're taking money from people and

745
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 2: they're not delivering. And you can talk about pop and

746
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 2: you can talk about the players themselves, but in reality,

747
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: it's it's a league issue, right because the league has

748
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 2: got no problem taking money from NBC coming up or

749
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: now ESPN, T and T and air games that aren't

750
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 2: their best, or take money from fans to go see

751
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 2: players that aren't their best, and that's an issue in

752
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: my eyes, and that's where the league has to figure

753
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: it out. Fellas, Fox Sports Radio, Sports Radio, Well, good morning,

754
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 2: good good morning, good morning, buddy, happy happy happy, Fox

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00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: Sports Saturday. Fellas, Jason Fitz, Anthony Gargana, We come you

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Speaker 1: Should be.

761
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: So a fun first hour, spirited debate over basketball the

762
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 2: NBA and uh, you definitely woke me up, brav Let's go.

763
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 3: And by the way, allow for anybody that just listening

764
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 3: to us and they're like, we're not usually the odd couple,

765
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 3: not a lot of arguing here. We're usually kumbaya. Sometimes

766
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 3: two buddies in the sports bar, you know, like they

767
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 3: disagree on something, it gets firey. But that's that's what's

768
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 3: family is all.

769
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: About, exactly exactly.

770
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 2: And it's funny because the this time time period, right,

771
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: like you know, I mean, let's face it, we're up

772
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 2: at we started five on the East coast, so it's

773
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's a little rough sometimes, so I

774
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: appreciate waking up. I had a basketball game last night

775
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: with the kids, right because we're we're approaching our playoffs

776
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 2: beginning in about a week and March first is our playoffs,

777
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: so we're winding down the season. So we had a

778
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 2: game last night, and uh, you know, after a game,

779
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 2: I always ye, I don't care if it's because I

780
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 2: coached sixth grade basketball, I don't care what it is. Like,

781
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 2: I came up and I watched Legler and uh and

782
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 2: uh last night on ESPN because Legs is a is

783
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: a good friend, and uh, I saw I was up

784
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: late last night. So this morning I'm like half loggie

785
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 2: and it was fun to be able to wake up

786
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: like that. I didn't even need my coffee, so it

787
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: was good.

788
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 3: Say hey, the Legs, by the way, Uh, you know,

789
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 3: I'll take Legs on in the King of Halloween category

790
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 3: any day. But the Legs also just a great human being.

791
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: I love. Yeah, he's the best.

792
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: I had him on yesterday on my local you know,

793
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 2: on my local show, and well it was funny because

794
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: we got into this whole conversation yesterday. So I had

795
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 2: him on. There's a great uh former coach Phil Martelli.

796
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 2: He was at Michigan and Saint Jose and he now

797
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: is a terrific broadcaster. So I'd fill on and you know,

798
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 2: we're talking about all this stuff and it's you know,

799
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 2: it's fun and like.

800
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: There is a degree.

801
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: And you're not wrong when you talk about you know

802
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: what today is, you know, versus expectations of you know, yesterday.

803
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 2: And I always try to keep it contemporary. I watch

804
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: and consume as much sports as I always have.

805
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: I love it.

806
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: I love it too much. It's it's really my life, right,

807
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 2: you know, from youth sports to pro sports. I mean,

808
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 2: my wife is like, this is all it is. She said,

809
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 2: Dick sporting goods, you know, three times a week. You know,

810
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: my big one football he played basketball now he's doing

811
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 2: now he's rows, but he's a big football player. My

812
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: little one plays football, basketball and travel baseball.

813
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: So like my whole world, it just revolves.

814
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 2: Around this stuff. It's my job every day and I

815
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 2: love it. I love every second of it. And I

816
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: guess because of that, sometimes I do have a critical

817
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 2: view of Sometimes I see effort.

818
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: It's why like I look at, you know, the league.

819
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: When we ended the last.

820
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: Hour, we talked about the league's responsibility, you said something

821
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: I thought was spot on that if you're taking money

822
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: from people, you got to get the best effort and

823
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: you got to put forth the best product.

824
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: And that's a league issue. The league still charges.

825
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 3: That's the hardest part of all because I do Again,

826
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 3: that's my core belief is. You know, I used to

827
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 3: always say to people in Nashville, if you took the gig,

828
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: if you took the money, then do the gig to

829
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 3: the best of your ability. And by that I mean

830
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 3: a lot of times. You know, if you're a musician,

831
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 3: you might decide you're going to play a wedding one day, right,

832
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 3: and you're like, yeah, I'll take that wedding, And then

833
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 3: the wedding day comes up and you don't really feel

834
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 3: like playing that wedding, and it's not a lot of money,

835
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 3: and you're like, this is putting eeath me. You go

836
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 3: through all of these emotions and then you realize that

837
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 3: you know, in my mind the minute you say yes

838
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 3: to a gig. So like if somebody asks, you know,

839
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 3: you and I to come in and do a radio

840
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 3: show for him, and we say yes to do it

841
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 3: for five bucks, well I'm still going to go in

842
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 3: and say I took your five bucks. And if I

843
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 3: said yes to it, then that means I got to

844
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 3: give my all. You know that I'm wired that way.

845
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 3: That's how I've always been wired. Like there's respect me.

846
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 3: That's that's an important part of how I've I've run

847
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 3: my entire life for the guys, like I think. The

848
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 3: reason I don't want to say that I have sympathy for,

849
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 3: but the reason I feel like sometimes I have an understanding,

850
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 3: like I understand sometimes where the guys are coming from.

851
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 3: I don't understand making millions of dollars and not playing

852
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 3: my ass off I don't like, but I do think

853
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 3: that there are so many things that have led us

854
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 3: to where we are. Whether it's as I mentioned earlier,

855
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: you know, load management coming in, or whether it's the

856
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 3: fact that you know the way the sport is covered

857
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 3: so often by by even by NBA heads, the only

858
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 3: thing that anybody's ever remembered for is championships. And then

859
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 3: we normalize greatness. And I use the Russ example all

860
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 3: the time of the first season that he averaged a

861
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 3: triple double, the world stopped and it was like, Oh

862
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 3: my god, I can't believe it. He did it again

863
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: the next year, it's like, ah, we've seen that before,

864
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 3: you know. So it's just it's such a weird spot

865
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 3: to be in if you're an NBA player in my

866
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 3: mind from the outside looking in, because you can be

867
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 3: the biggest, you know, fighter in the world that comes

868
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 3: in and gives the best effort every single day, but

869
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 3: it feels like unless your team is hoisting Hilario b

870
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 3: at the end of the year, nobody gives a damn

871
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 3: about any of that. And so now like when you

872
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 3: when you just look at the way that the conversation

873
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 3: runs and the way that we judge everything, in the

874
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 3: way that the understanding around it, I don't even know, like,

875
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 3: if you were the biggest Kobe of this generation, and

876
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 3: you were the biggest effort guy anyone had ever seen

877
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 3: of this generation, but you didn't win championships and and

878
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 3: you don't you know, you're not that that person. Will

879
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 3: we even remember you anymore? So, like, if I'm an NBA.

880
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: Stop you real quick? You should want one thing? Does it?

881
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: Why does it matter if we recognize it or remember it,

882
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 2: because he'll have known that he'll have given the best effort.

883
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably fair. That's probably fair, I think for me.

884
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 2: I mean that's the if I teach, you know, the

885
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 2: kids I coach and everything else about you know, just

886
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: giving it, your your effort, be into it, be present,

887
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:15,439
Speaker 2: you know, work at things. You know, if the whole

888
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: league did that. So you mentioned one guy, right, So

889
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: imagine if the entire league had that mentality, or the

890
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 2: majority of the league had that mentality, then don't you

891
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 2: think that it would be a much more entertaining product

892
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: night in, night out? And they still may not matter

893
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 2: at the end when we talk about the NBA Finals,

894
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: and we may never remember what happened in Game forty seven,

895
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 2: But as you were going through it, don't you think

896
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 2: the league would be a little better?

897
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 3: Maybe? Yes, I mean from an effort standpoint, yeah, it would.

898
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 3: It would make I think it would make for probably

899
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 3: a better product every single day. Yeah, I don't think

900
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 3: that that's wrong. I think at some point the two

901
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 3: things that are inevitable is that when you get to

902
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 3: that level, and you know this better than anybody covering

903
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 3: all sports, when you get to a certain level, everything

904
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 3: like it's your business, you know. And so there are

905
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 3: levels of I don't want to say protect myself, but

906
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 3: there are levels of all right, I'm gonna do what's

907
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 3: best for my business throughout the course of everything, which

908
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 3: is how long do you play? You know, how long

909
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 3: can I And then the other side of it is like, yes,

910
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 3: I hear you that putting your best foot forward is everything,

911
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 3: but man like as somebody that did that in everything

912
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 3: that I've ever done in my life. Like I again,

913
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: I'll go go back to the busiest year with the band.

914
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 3: We were gone three hundred days, you know at this

915
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 3: point all of that work. And then I got to ESPN,

916
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 3: and as I told people, for over a year of

917
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 3: my life, I was sleeping on a couch in the

918
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,720
Speaker 3: studio because I was working sixteen eighteen hour days hosting

919
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 3: all these different things, and I was like, oh my god,

920
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 3: this is gonna make me the next thing today, and

921
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 3: none of it did, and so like there's a part

922
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 3: of me that looks back and says, I don't know.

923
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 3: I've always been a worker bee, and that worker b

924
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 3: is why I have pride in what I do for sure.

925
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 3: But you know, every time I open Twitter with an opinion,

926
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 3: somebody that doesn't like I get the same thing. Who

927
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 3: is this guy? Why the hell do we care about

928
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 3: a fiddle player's opinion? All of these things, there are

929
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 3: points where how you are judged does just get exhausting.

930
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: Like you know, without a doubt.

931
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 3: I mean that's if I'm player, Like if I'm an

932
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 3: NBA player and I'm looking around, I'm like, son of

933
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 3: a biscuit, Like y'all want me to do this, this, this, this,

934
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 3: and this, but you're still gonna trash these things because

935
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 3: it's not the like.

936
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: I do think.

937
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, that's a whole other conversation, right

938
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 2: like how we react, well, how the masses react publicly,

939
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 2: I mean, human nature to complain and to try to

940
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,959
Speaker 2: put down it sucks, it's awful, right Like, I feel

941
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 2: you and I get it. You know, it doesn't matter

942
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 2: in the long run. In your eyes, you can give

943
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: the effort to the nth degree every night, and somebody

944
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 2: will still attack you.

945
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: But that's not really what I'm talking about.

946
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 3: And I and no get I get that, and I

947
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 3: get that, and it feels like that's an aside. But

948
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 3: I also I'm just trying to put myself in the

949
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 3: shoes of an NBA player, which is difficult to do

950
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 3: because I can't imagine what it's like to have that

951
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 3: level of money anyway, But you just put yourself in

952
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 3: the shoes of an NBA player, And like, so you're

953
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 3: talking about personal pride, and I think at some point

954
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 3: in almost everything that's a dream job, there's a there's

955
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 3: a fine line between for ninety percent, like there's always

956
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 3: gonna be the Kobe's, there's the one percent that is

957
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 3: like they're just wired different. Yeah. I just think for

958
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 3: so many people, when they get to that level, it's

959
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 3: no longer about personal pride. It's about protecting your business.

960
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 3: It's about making your business into bigger business, and it's

961
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 3: about maximizing who you know, your monetization, which is why,

962
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 3: like I feel like, you know, the NBA has become

963
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 3: such a weird situation where you know, the minute you

964
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 3: draft a star, that star you're starting a clock before

965
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 3: that star is either going to be traded or want

966
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 3: to be traded, and like everybody's worried about their personal business.

967
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 3: I just I think that's become a bigger and maybe

968
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 3: that's part of the problem, but it just, you know,

969
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 3: I I feel like from some of these players standpoints,

970
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 3: they're stuck in a no win situation.

971
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 2: So here's something interesting because PK talked about this, and

972
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: he talked about you got all the money. He said,

973
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 2: what is it you're playing for? He said, if I'm

974
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 2: want to pay you this kind of money, then I

975
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 2: want your best ten years. So this is an interesting

976
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 2: piece of it because I don't like to you know,

977
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 2: I don't ever begrudge players money. I think they deserve it.

978
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 2: Sport blew up right one of the reasons why they

979
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 2: get paid what they do. And in this league, I mean,

980
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 2: you're talking contract super Max's and maxes and you know,

981
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 2: ridiculous sums of money, you know, quarter of a billion,

982
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 2: you know, three hundred million, crazy money, But they get

983
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 2: paid that because the owners can afford it. And without

984
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: the players. I'm always big believer that without the labor,

985
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 2: you got nothing, you got no product, because from my

986
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 2: eleven year old to me. I tune in every night

987
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 2: because I want to see Anthony Edwards, right, like I

988
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 2: want to watch Anthony Edwards play basketball. So those players

989
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 2: deserve the share of the pot, whatever how big the

990
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: pot is. However, once you get that piece of the pot,

991
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 2: I think, I think you know you need, like you

992
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: got to give me your best ten years. I think

993
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 2: PK's right, Like, I know you can hang around and

994
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 2: steal your last kind because players called all the time.

995
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 2: You ask any player and they'll tell you about the

996
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 2: last couple of years of their kind, of their career,

997
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: and that's their steal mode where they talking and they

998
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: laugh about it.

999
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I stole Jacksonville, I stole here. I did.

1000
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 2: That was always a part of it. I want your

1001
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 2: best ten years. That means that I want you to play,

1002
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 2: like the minute I guarantee you two hundred million dollars,

1003
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 2: I think it's fair to ask that to you to

1004
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 2: play every night as long as you're not seriously injured.

1005
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't again, in in theory and principle, I

1006
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 3: don't disagree with that, Like it's just everything changes when

1007
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 3: you assign massive Like look from the team standpoint too,

1008
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 3: how often are we seeing teams sit here and say, well,

1009
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna invest four hundred million dollars in

1010
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,479
Speaker 3: you over the course of the next X amount of years.

1011
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 3: Then you know, I'm I'm gonna worry about the future.

1012
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 3: We're gonna we're gonna shut this down and shut that

1013
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 3: down because we're you know, this NBA culture in general

1014
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 3: of not just load management but also tanking and everything

1015
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 3: else that we know goes on like it's all it's

1016
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 3: all placed to a long game. So I like, if

1017
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 3: I'm the NBA again, this is where I come back to, Like,

1018
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 3: where am I suffering. I'm suffering from people yelling. I'm

1019
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 3: certainly suffering from people yelling. I understand that at some

1020
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 3: point the perception is just becoming so loud that the

1021
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 3: perception will become reality and the NBA will have to

1022
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 3: deal with that, and I don't know the best way

1023
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 3: for them to deal with that. But also, like, if

1024
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 3: I sat here and I ran a franchise, I'm like, well,

1025
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 3: we stink, let's tank. You know, if I sat here

1026
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:54,959
Speaker 3: and ran a franchise and I'm looking around saying, okay,

1027
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 3: I I'm not sure I can trust Lucas. So I'm

1028
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 3: gonna trade him, Like it's just the entire the entire

1029
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 3: thing is broken, Like from players to teams to all

1030
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 3: of it. Is it broken? So at some point you

1031
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 3: just look at it and say, I don't know that

1032
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 3: you can ever put the toothpaste back in the tube.

1033
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 3: It's like, so, how do you move forward from where

1034
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 3: we are right now? Because load management it's just never

1035
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:21,720
Speaker 3: going to go anywhere, and players protecting their their business

1036
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 3: is never going to go anywhere. And by the time

1037
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 3: they get to this spot, like they again go back

1038
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 3: to the core difference between the NBA and the NHL,

1039
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 3: Like so many of these guys grow up together play

1040
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 3: an aau ball right by the time they get to

1041
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 3: this spot, Like it's just I feel like it's it's

1042
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 3: business for We've talked about it from football. It's business for.

1043
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: Middle schoolers in some states now nil exists in high

1044
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: school for.

1045
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 3: People, so like we just, well, how can tell you

1046
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 3: athletes is business?

1047
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: Businessmen?

1048
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 3: Their their businessmen? You know, boys and girls are businessmen

1049
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 3: at sixteen years old, and so like, I think this

1050
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 3: is only going to get worse, Like I think it's

1051
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 3: only going to become more about business and less about

1052
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 3: the passion of the game.

1053
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I mean you're right once

1054
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 2: it trickles down, because it's already in youth sports in

1055
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 2: high school, like you know, I mean there was a

1056
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 2: high school. I was just talking to a friend of

1057
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: mine who's an ad at a pretty prestigious high school

1058
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 2: the really good sports programs. He was telling me about

1059
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 2: a school in Baltimore that pays the best talent around

1060
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 2: the country high school and brings them in football program.

1061
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,240
Speaker 2: And we'll bring kids in and you know, they're getting paid,

1062
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 2: parents are getting paid, they're flying them all around like

1063
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 2: it's you know, I mean, this is high school we're

1064
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 2: talking about. This isn't a college nil and everything else,

1065
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 2: right that kind of pay pay for play. This is

1066
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 2: at that age. And look, I mean, you know that's

1067
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 2: all part of it. We're obsessed with sports. I'm obsessed

1068
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 2: with It's like I get it, I understand it.

1069
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 3: And where's the where's the line between for a lot

1070
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 3: of these people that are growing up, where's the line

1071
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 3: between being you know, I do this because I love

1072
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 3: it and because I played football, because I'm competitive and

1073
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 3: all these things like I won't you know, I don't

1074
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 3: want to throw the kid under the bus. Or anything.

1075
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 3: But like when I was at the Rivals event last

1076
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 3: year for Jacksonville in Jacksonville for the best high school

1077
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 3: football players in the country. I mean, there was a

1078
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 3: top quarterback recruit that you know, according to everybody that

1079
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 3: was sitting there talking was between nil and paid visits,

1080
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 3: was already worth three or four million dollars. And oh yeah,

1081
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 3: you know he's in high school. Like, it's not it's

1082
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 3: not about the competitiveness for him at this point is

1083
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 3: about I mean in part, but it's about business. It's about,

1084
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,479
Speaker 3: all right, how do I get to the biggest college

1085
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 3: football program to get to the NFL. And once I

1086
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 3: get to the NFL, how do I get to my

1087
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 3: second deal? Like I just so you know, it's when

1088
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 3: you start talking about load management and things like that.

1089
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I just I think a lot more to

1090
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 3: day than ever, kids are coming in and with an

1091
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 3: understanding of how long they want to play and how

1092
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 3: to play as long as they can and what's best

1093
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 3: for their body above Like, I think, we live in

1094
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 3: a society very often where it's about what's best for

1095
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,919
Speaker 3: the individual more than it's about what's best for the team.

1096
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 3: And that's just a different It's a different mindset, and

1097
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 3: you know, I think at some point I just maybe

1098
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 3: this is just me not being you know, positive enough.

1099
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 3: But I look at all of it, I'm like, well,

1100
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 3: that ain't changing. So now instead of trying to change it,

1101
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 3: how do we just deal with it? That's more in

1102
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 3: my mindset. How do we just deal with it?

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00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, although sometimes I don't think it can be sometimes

1104
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 2: I don't know that it's a bad thing.

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00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: No, Like, here's the thing, kids getting paid in college.

1106
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 2: And again, I was having this conversation yesterday with Phil Martelli, right,

1107
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 2: who coached college basketball, and I go, dude, you know,

1108
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 2: kids get paid in college may lead them to stay

1109
00:58:55,840 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 2: in school because they're getting compensated, you know well, and

1110
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 2: allow their skills to mature, their bodies to mature, and

1111
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: their games to become more polished. So you're getting a

1112
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 2: better basketball player. The tournament's better, right, Like the college

1113
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 2: basketball season is better.

1114
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: The tournament's better.

1115
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 2: Kids are staying longer, their games are maturing, which then

1116
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 2: would help the league because then the NBA comes better

1117
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 2: because better players are you know, are more mature players

1118
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 2: are coming into the league.

1119
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: I mean that that's a possibility.

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Speaker 2: And as an offshoot, I still think when you're talking

1121
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 2: about something as competitive as sports, that it takes driven people.

1122
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 2: You know, some kids are just you know, either big,

1123
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 2: you know, abnormally big and strong gifted. But a lot

1124
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 2: of those kids, it's hard. There's a there's a high

1125
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 2: school quarterback, same guy, same conversation. So the school is

1126
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 2: a very good school, so the academics are legit. The

1127
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 2: kid gets dropped off at five thirty in the morning.

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Speaker 2: He's a quarterback, same as Charlie Fulk for a Saint

1129
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 2: Jose Prep. He's at he's at school at five thirty.

1130
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 2: He does they have a lift session in the morning.

1131
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 2: This is a new off season, this is not even

1132
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 2: during the season. He then goes to the school his classes.

1133
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 2: He then has a football workout, he will throw, do

1134
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 2: whatever right then they'll watch film. Then he does homework

1135
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 2: and he's home at nine, like little lift nine o'clock.

1136
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 2: So that's his day. And that's not even during the season.

1137
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 2: Now that's some that's a kid who's dedicated, right like

1138
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 2: you got that sort of dedication in February. That's a

1139
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 2: kid who's driven. And most of those players that do

1140
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 2: this are driven people. And I don't know, I mean

1141
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 2: I think there's hope there were a Fellas Jason Fitz

1142
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 2: Anthony Gargana right here Fox Sports Radio.

1143
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,840
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1144
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:34,280
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1146
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:39,480
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1147
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:53,840
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1148
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,680
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1149
01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:02,200
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1150
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,480
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1151
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1152
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1153
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,000
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1154
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,440
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1155
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:15,080
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1156
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:19,280
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1157
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,120
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1158
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. So, just to kind of put a bull

1159
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 2: on this, when you're driven and I end the last

1160
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 2: segment on the story of the quarterback for a high

1161
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 2: school program, when your day starts at five point thirty

1162
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 2: and you're home at nine, I mean, you got to

1163
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 2: be a pretty driven kid to do that at sixteen

1164
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 2: years old, right.

1165
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 3: I mean, like Anthey, you know my background, But talking

1166
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 3: about that, I laughed because by the time I was eight,

1167
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 3: I practiced eight hours a day as a class musician

1168
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,919
Speaker 3: growing up, so I used to and then in sixth

1169
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 3: grade when I wanted a Nintendo, I was like, hey, ma,

1170
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 3: I want a Nintendo. My mom was like, well, we

1171
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 3: don't have any money, so if you want a Nintendo,

1172
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 3: make money. So I got a paper route so I

1173
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 3: would get up at three thirty in the morning so

1174
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 3: that when the papers got delivered, I could, like papers

1175
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 3: hit the door, I could go deliver the papers. But

1176
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 3: I still had to do at least two or three

1177
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 3: hours of practice before school, because then I had to

1178
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 3: go to school all day. And then I came home,

1179
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 3: I watched Transformers for thirty minutes, and then I practiced

1180
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 3: until I got to my eight hours, and then I

1181
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 3: did my homework. So I spent every which I mentioned earlier.

1182
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 3: I'm a worker bee. I'm a worker bee because I

1183
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 3: grew up a worker bee man, Like that's just it

1184
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 3: is instilled in me. Like I I live a luxurious

1185
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 3: life now that I'm very lucky in the sense that

1186
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 3: you know. Yahoo Sports only asked me to talk about

1187
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:51,919
Speaker 3: college sports in the NFL. So after the NFL Draft,

1188
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 3: the whole summer, I work an hour a week other

1189
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 3: than this show. And you know, the funny thing is

1190
01:03:58,400 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 3: the boss has always come to me and they're like,

1191
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 3: I enjoy the summer. You get the summer off. I

1192
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 3: hate it is my least favorite. Like, I don't know

1193
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 3: how to stop. So when you were talking about that routine,

1194
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 3: I looked at like part of one of the reasons

1195
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 3: I didn't have kids in my life was because I

1196
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 3: know the standard that I was held to, and I

1197
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 3: would hold a kid to that same standard. And like

1198
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,919
Speaker 3: it it's been grueling. I'm I'm forty seven years old

1199
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 3: and I've been working since. Like I've been earning money

1200
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 3: and working since I was roughly eight. Like, so it's

1201
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 3: just who I am, you know. So I think some

1202
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 3: people are built to just want to do, Like I

1203
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 3: want to be the best at whatever. Like the reason

1204
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 3: I don't like do I don't do things I'm not

1205
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 3: good at and that I can't get good at. Like

1206
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 3: the reason I never took up golf is because if I.

1207
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Speaker 1: Take it, dude, it's funny said that I'm the same way.

1208
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: I don't. I love it.

1209
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 2: I would love to be good at it, but I'm not.

1210
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,919
Speaker 2: And because I'm not good at it, I hate going out.

1211
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 2: I want it a blue blue moon. I'll go, I'll

1212
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 2: try and and I'll go. All right, I'm gonna try

1213
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 2: to get lessons and try to get but nobody's got

1214
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 2: the time to do that, and it's just not good

1215
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 2: if I'm not. If I can't compete in it a

1216
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 2: little bit, then I just don't want to do it.

1217
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean one hundred percent, Like I'm not. I

1218
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 3: tell people all the time if we're doing something for fun,

1219
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 3: I'm not a super competitive Like if I'm sitting there,

1220
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 3: you know, I used to play a lot of pickup basketball,

1221
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 3: and when if you were playing with guys that were

1222
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 3: just drastically better than you or drastically worse than you,

1223
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 3: I'll just go. I have a good time, no worries

1224
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 3: about it. If we're all in like skill, I am

1225
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 3: the most competitive person you'll ever meet, because it's it's

1226
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 3: built into me. Like I'm the sort of person that

1227
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 3: if you still, if you like, if you ask me

1228
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 3: to stand on stage, you have me a fiddle today

1229
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 3: and you're like, all right, go go in your money,

1230
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 3: Like we're let's go. You know, so, I'm not competitive

1231
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 3: until I'm super competitive, and I think most of the

1232
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 3: people that get to the level that we're talking about

1233
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 3: are so wildly competitive at one moment because you have

1234
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 3: to be like you have to have something different in

1235
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 3: your genes to do what it takes to make it

1236
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 3: to the one percent of the one percent of the

1237
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 3: one percent. You think about how many kids play middle

1238
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 3: school basketball versus high school basketball versus college basketball, and

1239
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 3: then to get to the NBA. I just think that

1240
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 3: the other part of what happens in this process is

1241
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 3: you become a CEO. And the weirdest part of having

1242
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 3: success in the music business was that you woke up

1243
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 3: one day and you realized you went from suddenly like, Hey,

1244
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 3: I write songs or I play on songs and this

1245
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 3: is great, this is fun, to oh my god, I'm

1246
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 3: part of a band that employs two hundred people, and

1247
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 3: I have no idea how to employ two hundred people,

1248
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 3: Like I don't know how to be a c right,

1249
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 3: it's something I want to do. I think for a

1250
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 3: lot of these NBA players and NFL players, professional athletes

1251
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 3: in general, and may be part of the question we

1252
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 3: got to ask is why do NHL players So how

1253
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 3: are they able to come up and not lose this?

1254
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 3: Because I think a lot of people at some point

1255
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 3: make a business decision to run a business that is

1256
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 3: more about running the business of their athletics career than

1257
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:02,959
Speaker 3: it is about particularly competitive result. I hope I'm saying

1258
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 3: that in a way that isn't disrespectful. I Like, I

1259
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 3: don't think Joel and B doesn't care. I just I

1260
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 3: have a hard time thinking Joel and B doesn't care.

1261
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 3: But I do think that most players at some point

1262
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 3: get to a fork in the road where it's like, Okay,

1263
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 3: what am I investing in here? What's my you know,

1264
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 3: the future? And that's why we talk about Lebron and

1265
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 3: is you know, a million dollars a year he spends

1266
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 3: on his body because like everything for him is about

1267
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 3: still trying to compete, you know. And so I think

1268
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 3: it's it's hard where I don't know where that line

1269
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 3: in the sand is. But I do think a lot

1270
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 3: of athletes, as they get to the one percent of

1271
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 3: the one percent, have become less athletes and more CEOs.

1272
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I think with the the sum of money

1273
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 2: changes that, right, you know, it just it has to

1274
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 2: and the fact that you're going to be getting paid earlier.

1275
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 2: Look at the kid from the Niners who quit during

1276
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 2: the middle of the game.

1277
01:07:58,080 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah yeah.

1278
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 2: He came out on social media the other day and

1279
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 2: was talking about. What he said was I don't need this.

1280
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 2: I'm rich, so I don't need to play. I don't

1281
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 2: need to be spoken like this.

1282
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 1: I don't need to do this.

1283
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 2: I'm rich, And he walked off the field. Now I

1284
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 2: think his earnings were close to forty million dollars.

1285
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 1: He is rich.

1286
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 2: Like you know, if you earned forty and take home

1287
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 2: you know, twenty, assuming you invested wisely, I mean, you're good, right,

1288
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 2: Like you know, it all depends on what level you want.

1289
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 2: But you know, I think you know you and I

1290
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 2: would would take tomorrow. It all depends on what you want.

1291
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Speaker 2: How you're wired, right, I mean, what are your goals

1292
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 2: in life? It comes down to that sort of thing.

1293
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 2: We as fans who consume it all. You know, you

1294
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 2: still can divorce yourself from the individual and those many

1295
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 2: businesses and you still look at it like it's a team.

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Speaker 1: It's so interesting.

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01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 2: But there's nothing like the NBA because each of those

1298
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 2: guys individually are compensated the way they are because even football,

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01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 2: you know, you got fifty three guys, right, you got

1300
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 2: a full roster, you know, only the quarterbacks, making you know,

1301
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 2: that ridiculous amount of money, I mean comparatively speaking to

1302
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 2: the NBA.

1303
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 3: Well, and I like, I'll also, as you know, we

1304
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 3: have more nuanced in the conversation. I'll also look at

1305
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 3: this and say, hey, you want to talk about ridiculous money,

1306
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 3: like baseball players, the guys you've never heard of, pulling

1307
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 3: just ridiculous cash once they make it to the majors. Right,

1308
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 3: So you know, I and frankly we we complain more

1309
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 3: in baseball about the control that analytics have on the

1310
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 3: style of management of the game than the players themselves.

1311
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 3: Makes sense, you know, It's like we're not sitting here

1312
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 3: more often than not saying baseball players don't care. We

1313
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 3: are sitting here saying I hate the fact that, you know,

1314
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 3: managers let analytics take a moment away from sports history,

1315
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 3: Like we do have that conversation. But I do think

1316
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 3: it's funny.

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01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 2: It's that version of load management, right, Like, you're right,

1318
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 2: it's that you know, baseball's version of load management is, Hey,

1319
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 2: we'ren't a penan race, but I'm going to shut my

1320
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 2: top prospect pitching prospect now. Yeah, And I think maybe

1321
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 2: because it drives you not like the point the whole

1322
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 2: points try to win, Like what do you do it?

1323
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 3: I think because we can blame someone other than the

1324
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 3: players for that. Like that's where you know, what's interesting

1325
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 3: in baseball is that we we do as a society

1326
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 3: tend to scream analytics, analytics, analytics, because you and I

1327
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:55,560
Speaker 3: have talked a lot about it, Like I think that

1328
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,640
Speaker 3: there's a place for analytics to argue with information. And

1329
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 3: then I think, you know, the reason that a coach

1330
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 3: or a manager, depending on the sport, is paid to

1331
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 3: be a coach or a manager is to have an

1332
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 3: actual feel for what they're seeing in front of them.

1333
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 3: Analytics can't factor in the way the rest of the

1334
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 3: game has gone the same way, you know. So, but

1335
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 3: for Major League Baseball so often it becomes easy, like

1336
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 3: we don't have to blame the player, you know what

1337
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 3: I mean, Like we were more often than not, we

1338
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,600
Speaker 3: blame the system for what was what's been created and

1339
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 3: become the norm. I do think it's interesting again going

1340
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 3: back to the fact that pop is pop was the

1341
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 3: one like one of the most pull up coaches of

1342
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 3: all time was the one that turned around and said,

1343
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 3: now we're gonna load manage and it helped them.

1344
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 1: Right, So it's it's interesting to me that.

1345
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 3: We don't blame like we blame players so much for

1346
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 3: load management in the NBA, but we don't necessarily blame

1347
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 3: players in Major League Baseball, like for the same thing

1348
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 3: that's happening. It's just happening in a slightly different way.

1349
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean to some extent, I agree with you.

1350
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,719
Speaker 2: You know, it's a little different because we're talking about

1351
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 2: specifically pitched.

1352
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:07,520
Speaker 1: Like, you know, so you know, normally.

1353
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:12,719
Speaker 2: You're going to get your everyday players, like, oh, Tony's playing,

1354
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 2: you know, he may get a day off here and there.

1355
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's in one series, right, you know what.

1356
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,799
Speaker 2: It's not like he's going to miss an entire series

1357
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 2: off of load management. So you know, you still get

1358
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 2: a chance to watch him play if you're if he's

1359
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 2: on the road type of thing.

1360
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 3: And I think you're right about that, Like you can

1361
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 3: better anticipate even like there are times certainly the guys

1362
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 3: sit and it's you know, it's unfortunate Major League Baseball.

1363
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 3: It's not an epidemic, and you can plan for it better.

1364
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:46,879
Speaker 1: The hardest games is why, you know well and more often.

1365
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 3: Than not too like, you know, because of the way

1366
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 3: pitching works, there's already an expectation like you're not exactly sure.

1367
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 3: You can try and anticipate, but you're not exactly sure

1368
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 3: who you're going to see. Uh. The hardest part with

1369
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 3: the load management conversation, and this is something that you

1370
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 3: know I had yelled at me a few years ago

1371
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 3: that I didn't agree with at the time, but I

1372
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 3: understand it and understand it more and more, is like,

1373
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 3: there are the number of fans that are actually impacted

1374
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 3: by load management is it's unfortunate, but it isn't any

1375
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 3: given night in the NBA. How many fans, if you

1376
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 3: how many fans are actually going to the building from

1377
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 3: someplace they've never been to go see John Morant play

1378
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 3: in a Memphis game on a given night versus how

1379
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 3: many people are watching these games all the time. That's

1380
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 3: the argument that people, when I was in some of

1381
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 3: these conversations at ESPN would constantly say, is like as

1382
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 3: bad as load management feels for people, when you sit

1383
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 3: here and say, yeah, but that family went to go

1384
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 3: see John. He's not playing. Okay, Well, the number of

1385
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 3: people that impacts is a fraction compared to the number

1386
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:52,640
Speaker 3: of people that are impacted by watching these games. And

1387
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 3: you know who's available a.

1388
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 1: Part of it. You know, if you have a subscription,

1389
01:13:58,360 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's.

1390
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 2: Cable, you cut the cord and something else and some

1391
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 2: kind of bundle, some kind of streaming package. You're paying

1392
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 2: for it, right, So if if I'm paying for it

1393
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 2: because I want to watch him play and he doesn't play,

1394
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 2: I'm still affected.

1395
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you are, but but not to the degree. You know,

1396
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 3: if you're paying for the NBA League Pass and John

1397
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 3: misses a couple of games, it's not the best, but

1398
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 3: it's not this catastrophic waste of money. You know, if

1399
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 3: if you're a family of four that's coming from Archdea.

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01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you're right.

1401
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 2: I mean obviously it's not you know, I mean, that's

1402
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 2: that's big dollars because they charge a ridiculous amount of money.

1403
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 1: So I know, I mean, without a doubt, I agein,

1404
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 1: I just go.

1405
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 2: You know, there is an impact if you don't play,

1406
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 2: and in my eyes, it's more on the league to

1407
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 2: figure out a system that everybody abides to I mean,

1408
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 2: I mean, the truth of the matter is I hate

1409
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 2: the fact that we're all about to chip. We'll talk

1410
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 2: about that. On the other side, fella is hagging right here.

1411
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Welcome bag fellas, Jason Fitz, Anthony Gargano

1412
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 2: as we hang out right here.

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01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 1: Dude, I'm jealous, man, you got the whole summer off?

1414
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: Can I be?

1415
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 3: This is the most like y'all gonna be so real

1416
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 3: with you? Like my agent, I know sounds humble brag

1417
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 3: when you say have an agent, It's really not that

1418
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 3: big a deal. I'm not that big. I just I

1419
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 3: just have an agent. And my agent last summer when

1420
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 3: he found out that they were, YEAHO was taking me

1421
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 3: down to an hour a week during the summer, like

1422
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 3: we're really close friends, my agent and I. And he

1423
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 3: actually called me and he's like, hey, are you gonna

1424
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 3: be okay? Like going down to are you gonna be able?

1425
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 3: And and it was like, I'm glad I have my

1426
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:03,639
Speaker 3: fitness journeys started.

1427
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 1: It just started.

1428
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 3: I'm glad I have that stuff. But I like, I

1429
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 3: legit have thought about like if I end up with

1430
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,600
Speaker 3: the whole summer off like that again, I think I

1431
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:14,680
Speaker 3: might just get a job at like a Starbucks, or

1432
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 3: like I just I need to be around people. Like

1433
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 3: for me, it's not like I don't know I could

1434
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 3: volunteer in an animal shelter or something, but like just

1435
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 3: I like the energy of being around people, Like the

1436
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 3: thing is you mentioned earlier, Like I wake up every

1437
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 3: every Saturday morning at four fifteen in the morning, and

1438
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 3: I wake up so damn happy because I know that

1439
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 3: we're gonna hang out for four hours, and like it

1440
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 3: just makes my Saturday better. Like I love what I do.

1441
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 3: I for all this talk we've had about the NBA

1442
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 3: and guys not loving it, and like all of these things,

1443
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 3: I freaking love what I do. And like the thought

1444
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 3: of just when you do this stuff digitally, like when

1445
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 3: when I connect for Yahoo, you know it's it's a

1446
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 3: one hour taping, so you got one hour and then

1447
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 3: you shut your laptop down and you're like, all right,

1448
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 3: what am I doing with the rest of my week?

1449
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 3: I can't handle that stuff, man, I can I head

1450
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 3: you know me well enough, Like I cannot handle that.

1451
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 3: Like my jo is going to go to a weird

1452
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 3: level this summer. If that's where we are, Like maybe

1453
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,600
Speaker 3: I'll start like training for a competition or sort of

1454
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 3: start greasing myself up like a stuck pig or something.

1455
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 3: I don't know, Like I just I got to figure

1456
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 3: out something. Go down to an hour a week. I

1457
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:23,680
Speaker 3: can't handle that.

1458
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild. That's I can't imagine. I couldn't imagine

1459
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 2: what you would do with all the time.

1460
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 3: I mean, call me, that's our boss, Evos, Hey, Scott,

1461
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 3: call us all right, buddy. I get bored during the summer.

1462
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 3: Let's go.

1463
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 1: That's that's crazy.

1464
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 3: That's why I sat in with so many friends last summer,

1465
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 3: like you know, a concerts come through, like and that's

1466
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 3: what I'm doing. You know, I'm sitting like I've already

1467
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 3: looking at the calendar this summer and hitting buddies up

1468
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 3: and being like, hey, uh, you're playing in New England.

1469
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 3: Do you mind if I come up to the sho

1470
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 3: in Foxborough like like that's that's I'm just gonna do

1471
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 3: a punch of that, like have fiddle, will travel. I'm

1472
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:07,600
Speaker 3: just you know, and maybe go to a bunch of

1473
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to a bunch of baseball games, baseball

1474
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 3: baseball and for all of the grief that I get

1475
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 3: for not being a seam head.

1476
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 1: I don't know that.

1477
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 3: There's like playoff hockey is the number one sports experience

1478
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 3: you can ever have in your life. Playoff hockey absolutely wins.

1479
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 3: But I think like top top three or four sports

1480
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:29,600
Speaker 3: experiences is a I don't care about the outcome of this.

1481
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 3: I'm just sitting in a baseball stadium like that is

1482
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 3: that is like a top five moment in the summer.

1483
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 3: You just you know, grab a grab a hot dog,

1484
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,560
Speaker 3: grab a beer, sit back and watch baseball and not

1485
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 3: be emotionally invested. Oh it's a beautiful thing.

1486
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's funny that my biggest problem is

1487
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 2: I need to be invested like I I. It's it's

1488
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 2: why we're such football freaks, because you know that idea

1489
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 2: of things that matter. It's so interesting, you know when

1490
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 2: we talk about like we're talking about these leagues and

1491
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:12,719
Speaker 2: what to do, Like if the regular season really doesn't matter,

1492
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 2: then why not pair it down and extend playoffs like

1493
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 2: I think baseball should too. I think the best part

1494
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 2: of baseball playoff baseball and playoff hockey. You're very similar

1495
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 2: because it's now like every shift is white knuckle, or

1496
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 2: every pitch is white knuckle.

1497
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you are right about that. As a lifelong die hard,

1498
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 3: like three month Dodgers fan, I feel this.

1499
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 2: It is I will continue that fella is hanging out

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01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 2: right here. Fox Sports Radio Sports Radio Radio, Good.

1501
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 1: Morning, good morning, good morning, go moreing.

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Speaker 1: So this is always the dead time post Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: We got Combine coming up, we got we're waiting for

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Speaker 2: Kyle's basketball March madness. And you know, this is this

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Speaker 2: little period of time before the draft and everything else

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Speaker 2: where in the playoffs begin where it's a little dead,

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Speaker 2: and it's that this is where the football doldrums set in.

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Speaker 2: They certainly set it for me, because especially last weekend

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Speaker 2: was tough. There was nothing. There was nothing on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: There was nothing on Sunday. The four nations weren't even

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Speaker 2: all on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is our I think Sunday is the day

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Speaker 3: that we can all agree hits the hardest too when

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Speaker 3: there's nothing on because we're so programmed, we're so used

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Speaker 3: to which is why I've talked about for a long time. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: if I was the czar of the sports world, I

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Speaker 3: would have Fox and CBS that on college basketball rights.

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Speaker 3: I would have put to both of them. I would

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Speaker 3: have put college basketball on you know, ESPN on Sunday

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Speaker 3: at one pm, four pm Eastern. I would have made

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Speaker 3: sure that I had you know, Duke North Carolina on

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Speaker 3: one Sunday, and you know they got lucky with Auburn

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Speaker 3: Alabama last weekend being a one B two matchup, but

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Speaker 3: that was on Saturday. I would have put that stuff

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Speaker 3: on Sunday, just because we're creatures a habit.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 3: The fact is, if I ask most of you right

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Speaker 3: now to tell me what network, you know, certain channels are,

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Speaker 3: like everybody knows how to to just type in the

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Speaker 3: number for certain networks, like you become habitual and everything.

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Speaker 3: So to me, habitually, I would have put I would

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Speaker 3: have loaded college basketball on Sunday at usual times. That's

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Speaker 3: just that's just me, dude, exactly.

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Speaker 1: You want to see it.

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Speaker 2: Man, you want to see the best matchups, and you

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01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 2: got to put them in a prime spot. That's the

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Speaker 2: that's the biggest thing. That's what I missed the most.

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Speaker 2: Like during the weekend. You know, we all have our

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Speaker 2: things and we're all doing other stuff and our lives.

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Speaker 2: But man, I like, I'd like to sneak in like

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Speaker 2: a game, you know, something that just gives me my

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Speaker 2: my fix, my my, I missed my NFL. I'm not

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Speaker 2: I'm not asking to do, you know, sixteen hour days

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Speaker 2: like you know, college football all day, NFL all day. Right,

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Speaker 2: I'm just give me a couple hours of entertainment touring

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Speaker 2: the course of the day, give me a block of

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Speaker 2: good games.

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Speaker 3: Well, and that's again where I think the UFL and

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Speaker 3: spring football missed the book completely also, and I understand

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Speaker 3: they're trying to get some NFL players, so there's some

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Speaker 3: complications with some of that. But man, again, if I

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Speaker 3: ran a secondary spring football league, it'd be the week

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Speaker 3: after the Super Bowl that it would start. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's just, hey, you guys are used to watching it.

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Speaker 3: Let's see if we can get a few million people

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Speaker 3: that don't even care about it to just stick in

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Speaker 3: because they're used to it on Sundays, because I think

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Speaker 3: you can feel the difference. I think about the camaraderie

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Speaker 3: that comes with the way we all watch on Saturdays

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Speaker 3: and Sundays through the entire fall. I think that's the

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Speaker 3: most special thing about football season, is that, whether it's

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Speaker 3: college or the NFL, everybody seems to just gravitate together.

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Speaker 3: So your group text is blowing up, and your fantasy

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Speaker 3: chat's blowing up, the guys that you bet with are

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Speaker 3: blowing up, and like all day Saturday Sunday, you feel

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Speaker 3: connected to your friends and your world and sports and

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Speaker 3: all of these things. And then last weekend and this

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Speaker 3: weekend happens, and all of a sudden, you're just like,

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Speaker 3: all right, well, what do you guys, what's everybody doing

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Speaker 3: this weekend?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, It's just such a different vibe, dude,

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Speaker 2: I now it drives me, not bad, it's weird. The

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Speaker 2: obsession that you will, like I go, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: I'm really obsessed by this, Like I truly miss football.

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Speaker 2: And it's like to the point where I go, I

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Speaker 2: got to give a life, Like I shouldn't miss football

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Speaker 2: that much, man.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and I just I love talking about it.

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Speaker 1: You know, I love and I like all levels of it.

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Speaker 2: So you know, obviously I'm into the youth thing, so

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm all about that, and then I love

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Speaker 2: college College football to me is the most interesting thing

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Speaker 2: in the world. And how all this stuff is going

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Speaker 2: to play out, you know, you know the shame of

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Speaker 2: it is. I worry about the kids coming out of

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Speaker 2: high school because most of your big programs are just

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Speaker 2: going to be constructed through the portal.

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Speaker 1: And now what's gonna happen is and this is gonna

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Speaker 1: be interesting.

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Speaker 2: JUCO will become a huge thing because it's not going

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Speaker 2: to count towards your years. That that.

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Speaker 3: Say that, like for the world, brother, say that again,

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Speaker 3: because like, if y'all haven't heard this, this is massive

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Speaker 3: news to the age of college football players.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're gonna limit it. So what do you

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Speaker 1: tell me? Five?

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Speaker 2: So I told to somebody who knows what's what's going

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Speaker 2: what's happening, right, He said that they're gonna limit You're

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Speaker 2: gonna get five five years.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 2: No six year petition. This You're gonna get five years.

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Speaker 2: But you're gonna the JUCO years that you go to

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Speaker 2: will not count So what will happen is you'll go

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Speaker 2: to JUCO for a year or two, then good to

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Speaker 2: one another program, so you could be a twenty year

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Speaker 2: old freshman. So that's that's how they're gonna skirt this. Now.

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Speaker 2: The next thing you'll see is these these elite JUCO

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Speaker 2: teams that all that will happen because because JUCO won't count,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna need way more really good programs and to

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Speaker 2: play each other.

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Speaker 1: Because they still need to develop.

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Speaker 2: So you'll have your high school development, your junior college development,

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Speaker 2: then your college development, and then the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's what I love about this is we

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Speaker 3: talked earlier about the sacrifice, and what I love is

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Speaker 3: anytime somebody can play the sport that they love longer,

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Speaker 3: I think that's that's a beautiful thing. I do think

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Speaker 3: it gets interesting, like we're almost gonna have to separate

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Speaker 3: any of this conversation from what it means for the NFL,

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Speaker 3: because as you get older and older. We're seeing it

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Speaker 3: right now, like as free agency is about to hit,

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Speaker 3: there are guys hitting free agency on their second contract

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Speaker 3: that are twenty five, and there's guys hitting set free

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Speaker 3: agency on their second contract that are twenty nine. Like right,

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Speaker 3: the difference from a from a draft standpoint, you know,

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Speaker 3: we've got I saw Greg Cosel, who does really good

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Speaker 3: work breaking down quarterbacks, talking about the kid out of

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Speaker 3: Louisville the other day that's twenty four, almost twenty five

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Speaker 3: and played seven years because of medical COVID. You know,

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Speaker 3: so seven years in college, he's twenty four, going to

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Speaker 3: be twenty five when the season starts. And you look

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Speaker 3: at that and think, man, I just how do we

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Speaker 3: judge quarterbacks that are twenty four versus quarterbacks that are

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Speaker 3: twenty And if you're an NFL team, how do you

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Speaker 3: figure out? You know, it's easier for quarterbacks because they

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Speaker 3: can play till they're in their late thirties, But what

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Speaker 3: do you do with the edge rusher for example, that

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Speaker 3: comes out? It's like, man, you are one deal, one

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Speaker 3: contract in, and you're gonna be right on that edge

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Speaker 3: of thirty years old. Like this gets So it's interesting

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Speaker 3: because I love the kids being able to play longer,

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Speaker 3: but I wonder if we're just gonna have to sort

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Speaker 3: of separate some of that and say, hey, this is

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Speaker 3: gonna make college football a lot of fun, but it

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Speaker 3: is going to be even clearer that college football ends

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Speaker 3: up having a whole lot of kids playing that do

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Speaker 3: not have a shot at the NFL at all.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you a question to go back

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Speaker 2: to what we talked about with Juco. Why it's so weird, right,

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Speaker 2: because you know what happens is right, kids will repeat grades.

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Speaker 2: This whole thing starts. So we're talking about age at NFL.

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Speaker 2: So now you have your elite players, right, So the

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Speaker 2: ely players, you know, the for every kid, the receiver

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Speaker 2: from Hive of State right or Alabama?

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Speaker 1: Right, those amazing.

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Speaker 2: Talents that are true freshmen, you know, eighteen years old

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Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith, right, Williams, Like you're coming out, you're like

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Speaker 2: eighteen years old.

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Speaker 1: You're to get the you're amazing.

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Speaker 2: That's rare. Most kids, and I see it on my level,

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Speaker 2: are repeat. They'll either start late or they repeat eighth

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Speaker 2: grade or one of the grades leading up during elementary school.

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Speaker 2: So they're already nineteen because they're trying to get him

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Speaker 2: bigger for high school, right, more mature, So.

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Speaker 1: They're already a year older.

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Speaker 2: Now you're a year older at nineteen graduating high school.

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Speaker 2: Now you're going to go play junior college. Right, So

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Speaker 2: now you're twenty twenty one. Well, I've be the freshman

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Speaker 2: and you could play five years.

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Speaker 3: Maybe this is just me in this moment, prisoner of

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Speaker 3: the moment. But when you just said that, and look,

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Speaker 3: I've covered college and now some high school long enough

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Speaker 3: to realize how often this happens. But I don't really

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Speaker 3: think about it until you say it. The concept of

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Speaker 3: either enrolling late or repeating a grade so that it

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Speaker 3: helps your kid be bigger when they get into high

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Speaker 3: school football like this happens, but think about the real

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Speaker 3: life consequence for that for kids that don't make it

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Speaker 3: in football, Like I understand that, you know, in eighth grade,

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Speaker 3: every every parent is convinced that their kid's going to

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Speaker 3: be great. And I've often joked that the most important

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Speaker 3: coach that a kick can hire is an honest or

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Speaker 3: a family can hire is an honesty coach. I think

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Speaker 3: that we need more people that will frankly look at

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Speaker 3: somebody in the eyes and say, hey, you're probably probably

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Speaker 3: not going to make it with this, like you know,

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Speaker 3: just just understand and great if they're wrong, the kid

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Speaker 3: will work through it, the family will work through it.

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Speaker 3: But so often we see this where you're letting your kid.

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Speaker 3: You're forcing your kid to repeat eighth grade so that

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Speaker 3: they have a competitive edge or so that they're better

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Speaker 3: suited to handle high school football. What if that kid

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Speaker 3: never ends up like doing anything, then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: they went to eighth grade twice. Like that's just kind

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Speaker 3: of why when we take our sports fan about and

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Speaker 3: you just look at the actions of a thirty year

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Speaker 3: old that you know, repeated eighth grade, that just feels

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Speaker 3: really weird to me. You know, I know what happens

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Speaker 3: all the time. It just feels what feels gross when

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Speaker 3: we talk about it.

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Speaker 1: But it could help you.

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Speaker 2: It could help you though in that I mean we

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Speaker 2: know that maturity levels, right, yeah, yeah, and I think

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Speaker 2: it's through time, Like people live longer, they mature later. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean I know I wasn't at eighteen years old.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't mature like my father was.

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01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 1: No, that's right.

1715
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:12,519
Speaker 2: I mean, you know the way the world goes, So

1716
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:16,639
Speaker 2: I don't know that it's necessarily a bad thing. Even

1717
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 2: if the kid doesn't play college football. He's just nineteen

1718
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:25,679
Speaker 2: instead of eighteen or twenty instead of whatever, and going

1719
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 2: to college and he's you know, like I had a

1720
01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 2: conversation with a parent who did that, right, a friend

1721
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:37,320
Speaker 2: of mine who was a coach, and he's like, listen,

1722
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 2: he goes, I don't know if my kid's going to

1723
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 2: play college football, but I'm doing it. And the worst

1724
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 2: thing that happens is I get him at home for

1725
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:48,720
Speaker 2: another extra year. What's the big deal.

1726
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 3: I just remember what it was like when I was

1727
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 3: in school as a kid. And again I'm an old man,

1728
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:56,840
Speaker 3: but right, I remember what I was like for a

1729
01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:00,240
Speaker 3: kid in school that repeated a grade, and it was ruthless, Like.

1730
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's a stigma that You're right, there was

1731
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 2: a stigma that was there we were growing up.

1732
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:09,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like if I don't think it's there anymore, Oh man,

1733
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:11,680
Speaker 3: you really you would know better than me. Like, I

1734
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:14,720
Speaker 3: don't have kids anywhere near middle school. I just I don't.

1735
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:17,560
Speaker 3: It doesn't feel like middle school is kinder. So like

1736
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 3: the concept of repeating eighth grade just feels like, if

1737
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 3: you're an eighth grade guy that's repeating eighth grade, eighth

1738
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 3: grade girls are going to be which is brutal to you.

1739
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 2: Okay, so here's what happens, right, They're like, so my

1740
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 2: kids go to Catholic school, so they go through eighth grade,

1741
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:42,320
Speaker 2: right kindergarten through eighth grade. There is then another school,

1742
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 2: high school that has in eighth grade. They go eighth

1743
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:52,760
Speaker 2: through senior year. They have five classes. There's an eighth

1744
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 2: grade plus the high school. And so you would do that,

1745
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 2: So you would go do eighth grade at the elementary

1746
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:05,080
Speaker 2: school and then go to this high school that offers

1747
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:05,719
Speaker 2: an eighth grade.

1748
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:09,160
Speaker 3: Oh that makes sense. So now you're totally different group

1749
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:09,599
Speaker 3: of kids.

1750
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1751
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:15,599
Speaker 2: Right, And it's specifically done for that. The reason why

1752
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 2: the high school has the eighth grade. It's a sports

1753
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:22,400
Speaker 2: high school. I mean, it's a very good academic high.

1754
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 3: School, gotcha.

1755
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 2: But they have the eighth grade for that. So if

1756
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:29,760
Speaker 2: you want to go that option, you can go that

1757
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 2: option and there's no stigma. It's pretty easy. And what

1758
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:37,599
Speaker 2: happens is a lot of kids, a lot of kids

1759
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:40,400
Speaker 2: in public school will do that. They just go to

1760
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 2: a different school.

1761
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 3: Okay, that makes like changing schools makes sense to make

1762
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:47,160
Speaker 3: that feel a little bit easier.

1763
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 2: Like that is. There's a lot of that that happens

1764
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 2: in this world. Listen, it's it can be grizzly. I mean,

1765
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:58,080
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's all you know, roses and I

1766
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 2: get you know, you know, it's not for everybody, but

1767
01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:04,760
Speaker 2: if you just strip it away, and the way my

1768
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:07,720
Speaker 2: buddy put it to me, I kind of appreciate it.

1769
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 2: He's like, what's the big deal? I get him at

1770
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:13,040
Speaker 2: home for another year.

1771
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:15,080
Speaker 1: Now.

1772
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:19,600
Speaker 2: He was switching school, so you know, but and the

1773
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 2: and the way it was set up, he was going

1774
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 2: to go to a different high school, so it wasn't

1775
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:27,280
Speaker 2: like it's detrimental. Actually he was being homeschooled for a year.

1776
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:30,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. And if you're that's a total different, you know,

1777
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:33,040
Speaker 3: if you're a homeschool God love anybody that has the

1778
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:36,479
Speaker 3: confidence to do that. I don't know enough about it

1779
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 3: to speak on the homeschooling process. I just know that

1780
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:41,479
Speaker 3: I was terrible at science and math, so like the

1781
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:44,759
Speaker 3: thought of trying to actually like teach my kids science

1782
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 3: and maths is intimidating as hell. But you know that

1783
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 3: the homeschooling element of it would actually make And I

1784
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 3: have several friends, you know, when when I was on tour,

1785
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:55,640
Speaker 3: half the people I toured with were homeschool growing up.

1786
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 3: So certainly, you know, I've been around it a lot.

1787
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:02,680
Speaker 3: I can't image the concept of like, look, I was

1788
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 3: about a week into calculus when the calculus teacher walked

1789
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:06,640
Speaker 3: up to me. He was like, hey man, this might

1790
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:08,639
Speaker 3: not be your bag, like you might not be really

1791
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:09,879
Speaker 3: suited for calculus.

1792
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 7: And he was right.

1793
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:13,160
Speaker 3: He was very very right. So I can't imagine trying

1794
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 3: to teach my kid, like I don't understand it. I

1795
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 3: don't know.

1796
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:18,840
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I'm with you.

1797
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 2: I don't know that I want that responsibility because I

1798
01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 2: would fear that I'm not a professional and i'd be

1799
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 2: hurting them, right, So I'm with you, like, I don't

1800
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:32,560
Speaker 2: I don't think that that's you know, I'm with you.

1801
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 1: Now, there's all kinds of.

1802
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:40,680
Speaker 2: You know, tools and things that you use, and outside

1803
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:46,960
Speaker 2: sources and and curriculums that are there, and all kinds

1804
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 2: of online stuff that you could do. I would be

1805
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:54,639
Speaker 2: more concerned from the social standpoint of keeping them down

1806
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 2: for a year, right, Yeah, Like you're not around kids.

1807
01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:00,839
Speaker 2: You're not around like there's still they still play sports

1808
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:06,280
Speaker 2: for the town teams, but they're not you know, they're

1809
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:08,960
Speaker 2: not you know, I think a kid needs to be

1810
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 2: in school every day.

1811
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:13,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's the one thing I've heard several

1812
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:16,599
Speaker 3: of my friends continually tell me that there are lots

1813
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 3: of ways now to socialize your kids. If you, if you,

1814
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:23,160
Speaker 3: if you do that, if you if you want to homeschool,

1815
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:25,479
Speaker 3: but I'm with you, I think that would be a

1816
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 3: wild Like, all of these are concerns I just but again,

1817
01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:32,360
Speaker 3: this comes back to so much of what we've been

1818
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 3: talking about about. By the time they get to the

1819
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:37,160
Speaker 3: professional level, the number of kids and I'm not saying

1820
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:38,760
Speaker 3: this is every kid, but the number of kids that

1821
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:42,519
Speaker 3: have become a commodity to their family and the development

1822
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:45,760
Speaker 3: of that kid is really about Okay, well you know this,

1823
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:49,480
Speaker 3: and I don't blame them. Like certainly, my parents realized

1824
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:51,519
Speaker 3: at a very young age that I was very good

1825
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:53,720
Speaker 3: at one thing, and so it became, hey, how do

1826
01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:55,760
Speaker 3: we help you focus on this thing and make you

1827
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:57,800
Speaker 3: as good it as we possibly can. It takes a

1828
01:37:57,840 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 3: lot of sacrifice from a lot of people, but it's

1829
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:02,479
Speaker 3: just a tough it's tough way to grow up. It

1830
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:05,639
Speaker 3: really is. So like the commodity aspect of it isn't.

1831
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is.

1832
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:10,760
Speaker 2: You're right now, It's interesting because I look at it,

1833
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:13,160
Speaker 2: and you know, I got two boys that play right

1834
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 2: and quite frankly, you know, I kind of wanted my

1835
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:23,560
Speaker 2: I wanted to do that with my like, you know,

1836
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:27,560
Speaker 2: like he's big and I'm thinking, all right, well, you

1837
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 2: know he don't have a big of a huge leg

1838
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:35,600
Speaker 2: up if he does eighth grade twice. No, he was

1839
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:38,760
Speaker 2: stoned against it, and I'm like whatever and say now, Mike,

1840
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:43,600
Speaker 2: he was also November baby. Now my little one is

1841
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:46,720
Speaker 2: in March, so it's a little different, right Like, so

1842
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:51,640
Speaker 2: you know, I we talk, we talk about it. The

1843
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:55,639
Speaker 2: whole goal is if you can get them to play

1844
01:38:55,800 --> 01:39:00,720
Speaker 2: sports in college. So you're going to focus on the academia.

1845
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:03,760
Speaker 2: Like we're not talking about you know, I'm not there's

1846
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:09,519
Speaker 2: no delusions that you're NFL, right, but or MLBING in

1847
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 2: my little ones case. But if you can go to

1848
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:19,479
Speaker 2: college and make a few bucks, right, like, you're set

1849
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:22,480
Speaker 2: up for life. It's not about you as a commodity

1850
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:25,439
Speaker 2: to feed the family, but it's you know, imagine what

1851
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:28,800
Speaker 2: kind of head start in life that if you're not

1852
01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:31,760
Speaker 2: walking out of college with debt, but you're able to

1853
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:34,559
Speaker 2: walk with with real money to invest.

1854
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

1855
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:41,480
Speaker 2: Like there's a kid at Cincinnati who is a quarterback.

1856
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:45,080
Speaker 2: Now we're not talking about Ohio State, right, We're talking

1857
01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:49,120
Speaker 2: about Cincinnati. He got his deal, he got three hundred

1858
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 2: thousand to go there. If he becomes a starter, he

1859
01:39:54,280 --> 01:39:56,320
Speaker 2: automatically gets a million dollar kicker.

1860
01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:00,479
Speaker 1: That's Cincinnati, Fincy.

1861
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:03,400
Speaker 3: That's real member, No, that's real, real money.

1862
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:06,679
Speaker 1: Right right, So imagine God blessed that kid.

1863
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 2: Then even if he doesn't become the starter and he's

1864
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:13,519
Speaker 2: back in three hundred, he's gonna wind up making close

1865
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:16,479
Speaker 2: to a million, over a million bucks. Let's just say

1866
01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:20,599
Speaker 2: stage four years, say he fulfills the obligation, you're gonna

1867
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:25,000
Speaker 2: make over a million dollars. You're walking out with some

1868
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 2: a chunk of chains to invest.

1869
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:28,720
Speaker 1: You're not.

1870
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 2: You have to work, but you've got a great head

1871
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:36,000
Speaker 2: start and that can fund you in whatever business you

1872
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:37,879
Speaker 2: want to do. You want to open up a business,

1873
01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:41,360
Speaker 2: do you whatever career you want? More of an art

1874
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 2: career right where the year you need to You're not

1875
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 2: gonna make a lot of money right away. You want

1876
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 2: to go to law school, you could pay for it, Like,

1877
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:52,600
Speaker 2: there's a million things you can do when you're that,

1878
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:58,000
Speaker 2: So why not funnel then to sports in the event

1879
01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:00,760
Speaker 2: that it clicks for you?

1880
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:02,839
Speaker 1: Know, you're set. You got a headstart.

1881
01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:07,360
Speaker 2: You know, if I think if parents look at it

1882
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 2: in that rational thing, not going oh my god, I

1883
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:12,400
Speaker 2: want my kid to play in the NBA. Yeah, we

1884
01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:17,439
Speaker 2: all do, right, but it ain't going to happen except

1885
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:20,519
Speaker 2: for very few cases. If you get but if you

1886
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 2: go play college, yeah, you know, make a few dollars,

1887
01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:29,479
Speaker 2: good head start in life. Fellas Jason Fitz, Anthony Garganta

1888
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:31,320
Speaker 2: right here Fox Sports Radio.

1889
01:41:33,439 --> 01:41:36,320
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1890
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1891
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:43,960
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1892
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:44,719
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1894
01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:52,439
Speaker 2: I'm Anthony Gargana where the fellas hanging out from the

1895
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 2: Tirerack dot com studios.

1896
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Speaker 1: All right, so you're on Are you going to the

1897
01:41:58,960 --> 01:41:59,479
Speaker 1: final four?

1898
01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:03,920
Speaker 3: I think so I should know the answer to that.

1899
01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:05,600
Speaker 3: I don't know the answer. I know I'm covering the

1900
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:07,599
Speaker 3: final four in the championship game for Yahoo. I think

1901
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:09,759
Speaker 3: we're gonna do it in person, so down in San Antono.

1902
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:10,760
Speaker 3: Will be down there, I think.

1903
01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:10,840
Speaker 5: So.

1904
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 1: I love San Antonio. Yeah, that k Riverwalk is cool,

1905
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:19,360
Speaker 1: It's I love I love it there. It's a great

1906
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 1: It's got a great, great vibe to it.

1907
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 2: It's unique. I like unique cities. It's like it's got

1908
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:32,280
Speaker 2: such a cool, unique vibe to it. And I like

1909
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:34,920
Speaker 2: that Riverwalk a lot. It's a great I loved when

1910
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:38,640
Speaker 2: the when the events, obviously final four, there's always a

1911
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:41,760
Speaker 2: big thing there. I still love going to that. I

1912
01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:49,520
Speaker 2: gotta tell you, I don't know who's who in college basketball.

1913
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:51,960
Speaker 2: It's so wide open.

1914
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:53,880
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1915
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 2: We gotta go one today Tennessee, Texas A and M

1916
01:42:57,040 --> 01:43:04,479
Speaker 2: six versus seven. It's so wide open. It's amazing. Like

1917
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:09,720
Speaker 2: you know, obviously, you know Florida is terrific in Alabama, right,

1918
01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:13,360
Speaker 2: and you know, I mean Duke is Duke, And if

1919
01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:16,479
Speaker 2: I had to pick somebody as good as Auburn is,

1920
01:43:17,240 --> 01:43:19,320
Speaker 2: I would I would pick Duke.

1921
01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:22,880
Speaker 1: But I mean, I just think it's so wide open.

1922
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:26,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, And part of that is the SEC. You know

1923
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:30,639
Speaker 3: the fact that I think in Lonardi's rankings this week,

1924
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:33,439
Speaker 3: thirteen of the sixteen teams in the SEC make the

1925
01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:34,280
Speaker 3: NCAA turn.

1926
01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you do with that?

1927
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:39,160
Speaker 3: Like, I know that we always talk about what conference

1928
01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:41,880
Speaker 3: is the best in depth versus high quality at the top.

1929
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:45,040
Speaker 3: I like, well, I hear all these things, but like legitimately,

1930
01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:48,559
Speaker 3: take conference bias or conversations out and just look at

1931
01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:51,560
Speaker 3: it and say, man, how do you figure out exactly

1932
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:54,360
Speaker 3: who's great when they're all just they are going to

1933
01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:56,120
Speaker 3: beat up on each other night in and night out.

1934
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:58,800
Speaker 3: I don't know how to take what we saw. You know,

1935
01:43:58,880 --> 01:44:02,240
Speaker 3: Auburn Alabama last week is a great example of you know, frankly,

1936
01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:06,200
Speaker 3: Auburn played some great defense in that and Alabama couldn't shoot.

1937
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:08,120
Speaker 3: So what do we take out of that? Does that

1938
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:10,960
Speaker 3: mean that Alabama can't shoot moving forward in the tournament

1939
01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:13,400
Speaker 3: or does that mean that Alabama's battle tested? I'm moving

1940
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:16,760
Speaker 3: the ball around against a good defense. You know, It's like, hell,

1941
01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:20,599
Speaker 3: if I know to your point, we're sitting here right

1942
01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:25,840
Speaker 3: now as we are just careeming towards the selection Sunday

1943
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:28,200
Speaker 3: in just a few weeks, and I know all of

1944
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:31,519
Speaker 3: those teams are good, I don't know. I would I

1945
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:33,240
Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised at all to see a bunch of

1946
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 3: SEC teams absolutely hammer everybody. But also, who knows, is

1947
01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:40,960
Speaker 3: one of those moments we gets in the tournament, We're

1948
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:43,160
Speaker 3: gonna find out that they're all just pretty good teams

1949
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:45,280
Speaker 3: that are evenly matched, and we perceive that to mean

1950
01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 3: they were great teams.

1951
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:46,560
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1952
01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:52,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great I mean it's funny because I'm

1953
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:55,800
Speaker 2: looking at it and I think the only I look

1954
01:44:55,880 --> 01:45:01,760
Speaker 2: at Duke and I watched them, and they look the part.

1955
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:05,480
Speaker 2: I mean they really, I mean they they have periods

1956
01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:11,840
Speaker 2: of just other dominance where you you know, those flurries,

1957
01:45:12,640 --> 01:45:17,120
Speaker 2: knockout punches that I would pick them over.

1958
01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:20,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I have to be my pick right now.

1959
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:24,759
Speaker 3: Well, I mean there's also power to having Cooper flag.

1960
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:29,680
Speaker 3: And there are times that I think guys become sensations

1961
01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:33,439
Speaker 3: and it's all a little overhyped. It's all a little overdone.

1962
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:37,680
Speaker 3: But Cooper is just the fact that he's come out

1963
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:39,720
Speaker 3: and said he'd like to come back to Duke next year. Hell,

1964
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:41,559
Speaker 3: I don't know, y'all. I don't know if that's real.

1965
01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:43,880
Speaker 3: I just know that if that happens, that's one of

1966
01:45:43,880 --> 01:45:46,320
Speaker 3: the biggest wins for college basketball in a long time.

1967
01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

1968
01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:51,840
Speaker 3: The way the kid plays is just like it immediately translates.

1969
01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:54,599
Speaker 3: And by the way, you know, we watched the ascent

1970
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:57,320
Speaker 3: a few years ago of John the in the tournament

1971
01:45:57,360 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 3: where it felt like everybody fell in love with Ja

1972
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:02,439
Speaker 3: Morant during the NCAA tournament. Whatever the love affair is

1973
01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 3: with Cooper Flag is gonna blow up ten times more

1974
01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:07,360
Speaker 3: because he's just he's built for tournament basketball. I just

1975
01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:09,599
Speaker 3: gonna games.

1976
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:15,760
Speaker 2: He's ridiculous now, He's ridiculous now that team they just

1977
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:20,040
Speaker 2: play so well together. He's absurd because he just does

1978
01:46:20,120 --> 01:46:25,439
Speaker 2: everything right. Like he reboards, he sees the floor, his

1979
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:31,080
Speaker 2: vision is sick. He he's got everything. He shoots the

1980
01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:34,639
Speaker 2: ball well, He's just a beautiful player.

1981
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:34,920
Speaker 1: Man.

1982
01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:38,679
Speaker 2: He just decreases the great grape. I love, I love

1983
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:44,120
Speaker 2: what I'm I'm not. I'm kind of ambivalent to toward Duke.

1984
01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:46,960
Speaker 2: I know it's weird, but you either love him or

1985
01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:49,599
Speaker 2: hate him when it comes to duke basketball. But I'm

1986
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:54,400
Speaker 2: kind of like, you know, but I love watching this team.

1987
01:46:55,200 --> 01:46:58,879
Speaker 2: I love watching him, but they play so well around

1988
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:04,360
Speaker 2: him too. It's a good team like that. That's why

1989
01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:08,599
Speaker 2: I would play. And again, I like Haulburn, I like Houston.

1990
01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:11,880
Speaker 2: I think there's you know, there's a you know, like

1991
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:14,040
Speaker 2: you metch Up. The rest of all those that ct

1992
01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:18,840
Speaker 2: T Florida. Florida great ball right now, Florida's hot and

1993
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:22,200
Speaker 2: they're playing great ball and they just they'll dagger you

1994
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:24,800
Speaker 2: with those threes, They'll just bury you all day long.

1995
01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:27,920
Speaker 2: So and they're moving the ball, they get great open looks,

1996
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:31,280
Speaker 2: great great shots, and they're an avalanche type of team too.

1997
01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:35,640
Speaker 3: But also Florida's defense, like Florida's, Florida is one of

1998
01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:38,000
Speaker 3: I think two teams in the country that have top

1999
01:47:38,080 --> 01:47:42,000
Speaker 3: ten efficiency in offense and defense. You know, you talk

2000
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:44,439
Speaker 3: about what you know. I heard Jay Billis say this

2001
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:46,160
Speaker 3: the other day. But when you're trying to go from

2002
01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:49,400
Speaker 3: what works for an entire season to what works for

2003
01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:52,040
Speaker 3: one game, because of the tournament is so isolated in

2004
01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:55,400
Speaker 3: one game, looking at complimentary basketball is more important than ever.

2005
01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:58,280
Speaker 3: And when you want to talk complimentary basketball, Florida certainly

2006
01:47:58,360 --> 01:48:01,680
Speaker 3: is is in that conversation. Hell I found myself last night.

2007
01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:05,280
Speaker 3: I was watching the Michigan State Michigan game, and Michigan

2008
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:07,200
Speaker 3: State is a team that, you know, I laugh about

2009
01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:09,000
Speaker 3: because they've been so up and down, Like they didn't

2010
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:11,600
Speaker 3: lose in December and January, and then they lose a

2011
01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:14,519
Speaker 3: little bit at the beginning of February, Sky's falling. And

2012
01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:17,560
Speaker 3: I found myself when they beat Michigan last night a

2013
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:20,320
Speaker 3: little bit stunned looking at the fact that Michigan State

2014
01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:22,800
Speaker 3: is twenty and five, and that just speaks to how

2015
01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 3: many good Like look at the records of right now,

2016
01:48:25,880 --> 01:48:28,640
Speaker 3: the top ten teams, and even though a bunch of

2017
01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:31,599
Speaker 3: them are playing gauntlets, you got a bunch of teams

2018
01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:34,040
Speaker 3: right now that are twenty and five, twenty one and five,

2019
01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:37,280
Speaker 3: twenty one and four, Like Houston has lost four games

2020
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:39,920
Speaker 3: all year, and they're the number five team in the country.

2021
01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:42,719
Speaker 3: Like Alabama has played through this gauntlet of the SEC

2022
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:45,000
Speaker 3: and only lost four games all year.

2023
01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:49,760
Speaker 1: Like that means I know Auburn, right, Auburn's twenty four

2024
01:48:50,040 --> 01:48:52,960
Speaker 1: and two. They're twenty four and two.

2025
01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:57,719
Speaker 2: You mentioned Houston twenty two and four, I would state

2026
01:48:57,960 --> 01:49:02,439
Speaker 2: twenty one and five. Where we're at Texas Tech is

2027
01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:03,519
Speaker 2: twenty and six.

2028
01:49:04,160 --> 01:49:06,840
Speaker 3: Hell, Missouri beat Alabama, and we all made it sound

2029
01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:08,920
Speaker 3: like not we all, but a ton of people made

2030
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:11,400
Speaker 3: it sound like, oh my god, what a staggering upset.

2031
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:13,720
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, Missouri's a twenty win team and they're

2032
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 3: like twenty wins fifty team.

2033
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:19,360
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it's crazy.

2034
01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:23,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, they're they're good, and it's I'm hoping this

2035
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:27,160
Speaker 2: is going to be a really interesting tournament because it's

2036
01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:32,160
Speaker 2: got someone's depth of quality. So I'm hoping that basketball

2037
01:49:32,240 --> 01:49:33,680
Speaker 2: is going to be really good. I think it's got

2038
01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:40,960
Speaker 2: a chance to be a great tournament. I go through it, right, like,

2039
01:49:41,080 --> 01:49:44,240
Speaker 2: go go through the teams and play this at real quick.

2040
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:47,120
Speaker 2: So if you just go by their rankings, right, Oh,

2041
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:49,479
Speaker 2: you got all you said, you mentioned all burn you

2042
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:52,880
Speaker 2: look at their Look at the top ten, Tennessee at six,

2043
01:49:53,560 --> 01:49:59,280
Speaker 2: a m at seven, Wisconstant Texas Tech at nine, Wisconsin

2044
01:49:59,320 --> 01:50:04,160
Speaker 2: at eleven. They're all interesting, good teams, right. Mississippi State

2045
01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:06,800
Speaker 2: is another SCC team. Now again we can find out

2046
01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:10,640
Speaker 2: the Anstey seeds of fraud. I don't think it is. Louisville,

2047
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:14,639
Speaker 2: the twenty fifth team in the country is a good team.

2048
01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:15,920
Speaker 2: You're twenty and six?

2049
01:50:17,240 --> 01:50:21,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, well like Saint John's. Saint John's is

2050
01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:23,439
Speaker 3: the number ten team. I think right on nine, right,

2051
01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:27,360
Speaker 3: Saint John's could easily win the national championship. Yeah, so

2052
01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 3: I think to your point, what's gonna be wild now?

2053
01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:32,760
Speaker 2: And they can lose to Marta Yukon. But they can

2054
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:35,120
Speaker 2: lose to Marty Yukon and still go on a run.

2055
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:41,759
Speaker 3: I interviewed Alex Caravan from Yukon yesterday for Yahoo Sports.

2056
01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:44,920
Speaker 1: Oh get out. I'm curious, what's he talking about with

2057
01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:46,200
Speaker 1: their struggles?

2058
01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:49,600
Speaker 3: So I think this is what interesting because talking to

2059
01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:52,320
Speaker 3: him a lot, he is repeated over and over and

2060
01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:55,479
Speaker 3: over again himself included that the team has not come

2061
01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:59,439
Speaker 3: out with the same level of desperation every day, and

2062
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:02,479
Speaker 3: he said, he's you know, for him, he's got to

2063
01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:05,320
Speaker 3: find a fine line between leading everybody and also figuring

2064
01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:07,960
Speaker 3: his own way to Like he has shot poorly over

2065
01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:10,800
Speaker 3: the course of the last month, really poorly. How do

2066
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:14,080
Speaker 3: you not press but also fix that and then how

2067
01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:17,000
Speaker 3: do you keep your confidence? And you know, he said

2068
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:20,559
Speaker 3: over and over again that this year's team doesn't seem

2069
01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:24,840
Speaker 3: to have the same level of desperation every single night,

2070
01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:27,439
Speaker 3: And I think that's you know, in part, they graduate

2071
01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:29,680
Speaker 3: some players that move on, and so now you've got

2072
01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 3: a different leadership structure, you've got young guys coming into it.

2073
01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:35,120
Speaker 3: But also you've won back to back, and you know,

2074
01:51:35,320 --> 01:51:37,479
Speaker 3: I tried to pin him down on is their pressure

2075
01:51:37,600 --> 01:51:40,120
Speaker 3: for a three time championship and he kept saying, no,

2076
01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:42,479
Speaker 3: that you know, it's it's every day is a new day,

2077
01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:44,439
Speaker 3: Every game is a new game. But I don't know, man,

2078
01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:46,840
Speaker 3: I think what you've got for Yukon. You've got a

2079
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:50,280
Speaker 3: wildly inconsistent team that one night looks like they could

2080
01:51:50,320 --> 01:51:52,400
Speaker 3: threepete and the next night looks like they don't even

2081
01:51:52,439 --> 01:51:55,599
Speaker 3: belong in the tournament. I don't know if they lock

2082
01:51:55,720 --> 01:51:58,200
Speaker 3: that in going into we're gonna do this that we

2083
01:51:58,320 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 3: do in every sport. Oh, I don't want to take

2084
01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:02,240
Speaker 3: go on. I genuinely don't want to take on Yukon.

2085
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:04,920
Speaker 3: They got the best coach in the country, just ask him,

2086
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:08,160
Speaker 3: and they've got guys that have been there before. If

2087
01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:10,880
Speaker 3: they lock in, this is the same team that you know,

2088
01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:12,960
Speaker 3: finally figured out a way to beat Crayton. If they

2089
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:15,320
Speaker 3: don't lock in, then man, they're out in the first round.

2090
01:52:15,400 --> 01:52:16,360
Speaker 1: That's wild to.

2091
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:18,240
Speaker 3: Me on a two time defending national champion.

2092
01:52:19,400 --> 01:52:24,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. I'm actually I'm looking forward to tomorrow

2093
01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:29,000
Speaker 2: and seeing what they got against Saint John's. Yeah, that's

2094
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:34,160
Speaker 2: a good get because that'll tell me something. Patino is

2095
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:38,320
Speaker 2: interesting that a friend of mine produced that doc. It's

2096
01:52:38,439 --> 01:52:42,840
Speaker 2: the Workshop or production company, and that there's a docuseriies

2097
01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:47,120
Speaker 2: with Patino. We've referenced it earlier, and you know he's

2098
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:50,679
Speaker 2: he was ripping his players like, you guys are paying

2099
01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:53,000
Speaker 2: well and you're soft.

2100
01:52:53,479 --> 01:52:56,200
Speaker 1: Where are you coming from? Where you were you raised?

2101
01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:57,120
Speaker 1: That you're in this soft?

2102
01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:02,720
Speaker 3: And I love that portion. Lane Kiffin did the same

2103
01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:06,840
Speaker 3: thing talking about kids in college football. If we are

2104
01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:09,080
Speaker 3: going to and this show has been I think very

2105
01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:13,719
Speaker 3: welcoming and embracing of NIL overall. I think our tone

2106
01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:17,240
Speaker 3: has been very player empowerment ANDIL based more often than not.

2107
01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:20,559
Speaker 3: If we are going to as a general rule as

2108
01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:24,439
Speaker 3: a society, except that NIL is part of the college

2109
01:53:24,439 --> 01:53:27,559
Speaker 3: sports landscape and I do and I like it. Then

2110
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:29,519
Speaker 3: I think the other part that we have to accept

2111
01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:32,640
Speaker 3: is that now, more than ever, every one of these

2112
01:53:32,760 --> 01:53:35,240
Speaker 3: kids is going to be treated like a professional. So

2113
01:53:36,160 --> 01:53:38,519
Speaker 3: whereas three or four or five years ago, you could

2114
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:40,040
Speaker 3: go to coach and say, hey, I'm just having some

2115
01:53:40,160 --> 01:53:42,800
Speaker 3: mental health struggles and I need a couple of nights off,

2116
01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:44,640
Speaker 3: and you know, coach, find a way to do that

2117
01:53:44,760 --> 01:53:48,000
Speaker 3: for you. Now, people have talked to behind the scenes

2118
01:53:48,040 --> 01:53:50,560
Speaker 3: in college basketball and college football will tell you you

2119
01:53:50,720 --> 01:53:52,760
Speaker 3: go to coach with that same messaging now and he's

2120
01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:54,719
Speaker 3: going to say figure it out, suck it up, Buttercup.

2121
01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:58,559
Speaker 3: Like you can see some of that tone of hey,

2122
01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:02,439
Speaker 3: you are paid. Well, this is no longer a you know, hey,

2123
01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:05,920
Speaker 3: I'll rip away your scholarship. This is This is hundreds

2124
01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:08,000
Speaker 3: of thousands of dollars, if not millions of dollars for

2125
01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:10,599
Speaker 3: some of these players on the line. Coaches are changing

2126
01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:11,320
Speaker 3: their tone for sure.

2127
01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:16,200
Speaker 2: Hey listen, I mean you know, like you said, I

2128
01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:20,400
Speaker 2: mean it's fair yep, like you know, it's all right,

2129
01:54:20,920 --> 01:54:23,639
Speaker 2: you know, all right, we gotta take quick TL We'll

2130
01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:27,560
Speaker 2: come right back. Fellas hanging out right here on a

2131
01:54:27,680 --> 01:54:39,040
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday. Fellas from the tairaq dot com studios.

2132
01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:44,600
Speaker 2: Jason Fitz'm, Anthony Gargano, the great production team that we have,

2133
01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:52,200
Speaker 2: Brianna and Mighty Mighty Mark. We say, brie hright, good morning.

2134
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Speaker 1: You're quiet?

2135
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:54,800
Speaker 3: Oh am?

2136
01:54:54,840 --> 01:55:00,280
Speaker 1: I yeah, I haven't say you'll be quiet today? Oh well,

2137
01:55:01,000 --> 01:55:01,400
Speaker 1: what's up?

2138
01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 3: Guys? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I was yeah, do sourprisos so during the break, Mighty

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01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:16,080
Speaker 2: Mark and Brianna actually mightey Mark makes Brianna do uh?

2141
01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:21,160
Speaker 2: Gangster movie lines and TV shows? Do you know this,

2142
01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:23,280
Speaker 2: FITZI because I don't know if you hear this stuff.

2143
01:55:23,960 --> 01:55:25,840
Speaker 3: No, I don't. I don't hear the I don't hear

2144
01:55:25,880 --> 01:55:28,040
Speaker 3: the movie quotes. I can't. I hear the commercials, and

2145
01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:30,200
Speaker 3: the commercials are a delight, by the way, everybody should

2146
01:55:30,240 --> 01:55:32,200
Speaker 3: listen to them. Thank you to all of our wonderful sponsors.

2147
01:55:32,240 --> 01:55:33,680
Speaker 3: But I don't hear the movie quotes. I just get

2148
01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:34,520
Speaker 3: I get commercials.

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01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:36,680
Speaker 1: We'll do some stand up for do a little two

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01:55:36,720 --> 01:55:42,480
Speaker 1: steps for for FITZI Brianna. Okay, leave the leave the

2151
01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:43,640
Speaker 1: gun and take the cannoli.

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01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 3: Okay, there's Anthony, do me a favor.

2153
01:55:52,120 --> 01:56:00,640
Speaker 1: Will you say the same phrase she just said, take

2154
01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:01,680
Speaker 1: the gun, leave the canoli.

2155
01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:09,520
Speaker 3: I ain't that it feels right coming. Okay. There's a

2156
01:56:09,640 --> 01:56:12,200
Speaker 3: there's a trivia night that I go to all the time,

2157
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:16,600
Speaker 3: this Connecticut place, New Park Trivia, and they every once

2158
01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:18,440
Speaker 3: in a wile the category is lyrics, and the guy,

2159
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:21,920
Speaker 3: when he gets to song lyrics will literally just read

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01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:25,520
Speaker 3: a song lyric as dry as possible, and you have

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01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:28,680
Speaker 3: no idea what the hell he's talking about, because if

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01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:30,280
Speaker 3: it's just tell me the name of the song, and

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01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:33,440
Speaker 3: you're reading me some you know, random lyric from the

2164
01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:36,360
Speaker 3: middle of a verse with no I don't know panache,

2165
01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:37,760
Speaker 3: how am I supposed to know what it is?

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01:56:37,960 --> 01:56:39,120
Speaker 1: All right, so's awesome.

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01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:43,640
Speaker 3: Breez say leave the gun, take the canoli. It doesn't

2168
01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:45,760
Speaker 3: that doesn't feel right. And then he says that it

2169
01:56:45,800 --> 01:56:47,280
Speaker 3: feels right for obvious reasons.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because I'm doing it like with a white

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01:56:49,160 --> 01:56:50,880
Speaker 2: girl accent, because that's my accent.

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01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:51,160
Speaker 5: Right.

2173
01:56:52,400 --> 01:56:56,480
Speaker 1: Well, it makes me laugh every morning She'll do the

2174
01:56:56,600 --> 01:57:01,000
Speaker 1: quotes what was the Good Fellas? Because you am what?

2175
01:57:01,120 --> 01:57:01,920
Speaker 3: Am I a clown? Like?

2176
01:57:01,960 --> 01:57:03,080
Speaker 1: I'm here to like amuse you?

2177
01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:04,880
Speaker 3: Okay?

2178
01:57:07,080 --> 01:57:10,360
Speaker 2: It makes me, he makes me like because it's in

2179
01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:13,000
Speaker 2: the morning, right, Well, you know we're sitting there and

2180
01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:17,760
Speaker 2: you know, just waking up and and our beautiful crew,

2181
01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:22,280
Speaker 2: Mark and Brie have you know, they're all night right,

2182
01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:24,600
Speaker 2: so we're just part of their night and they're they're

2183
01:57:24,680 --> 01:57:28,000
Speaker 2: up all day and so when they're finishing their shift

2184
01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:31,040
Speaker 2: and so they're old kiddy and then uh, I'll get

2185
01:57:31,200 --> 01:57:34,839
Speaker 2: you know, even Mark, Mark hits me with rocky quotes

2186
01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:39,520
Speaker 2: to start the day. So Mark's first text to make

2187
01:57:39,560 --> 01:57:45,280
Speaker 2: sure I'm connected to the show was this fits he said,

2188
01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:46,360
Speaker 2: where's Mark at?

2189
01:57:46,480 --> 01:57:47,880
Speaker 1: This one was eat?

2190
01:57:48,080 --> 01:57:52,560
Speaker 2: Like all I got was this eat Lightning poop thunder.

2191
01:57:58,680 --> 01:58:03,000
Speaker 2: Because he and I talking movie quotes, we won't say hello, anything,

2192
01:58:03,080 --> 01:58:04,800
Speaker 2: We'll just start talking movie quotes.

2193
01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:09,840
Speaker 3: I just take deliver like like, look, I'm just saying

2194
01:58:10,360 --> 01:58:14,800
Speaker 3: I pulled up some famous uh some famous quotes from

2195
01:58:15,120 --> 01:58:17,800
Speaker 3: mob movies, and I just I just want to tell

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01:58:17,800 --> 01:58:19,800
Speaker 3: you that if I come to you and say as

2197
01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:22,200
Speaker 3: far back as I can remember, I always wanted to

2198
01:58:22,240 --> 01:58:26,000
Speaker 3: be a gangster like that doesn't feel you know, dude,

2199
01:58:26,120 --> 01:58:29,080
Speaker 3: You're gonna make you I'm gonna make him an offer

2200
01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:33,520
Speaker 3: he can't refuse Like that just doesn't feel doesn't feel right,

2201
01:58:33,640 --> 01:58:34,360
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying.

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01:58:35,800 --> 01:58:37,640
Speaker 1: So could you put your shoes back on and take

2203
01:58:37,680 --> 01:58:38,400
Speaker 1: them off the table?

2204
01:58:39,600 --> 01:58:40,160
Speaker 3: Oh my god?

2205
01:58:41,240 --> 01:58:44,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, nah, I look how they massacred my boy. Like

2206
01:58:44,640 --> 01:58:51,080
Speaker 1: see look how they master could my boy? Now that's

2207
01:58:51,120 --> 01:58:56,000
Speaker 1: how you're supposed to say it. God, that is it's

2208
01:58:56,120 --> 01:58:59,400
Speaker 1: far back I always. I mean, that's like no different

2209
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Speaker 1: than you just up in it. Say hello to my

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01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:06,640
Speaker 1: little friend. Like it just that sounds like I'm introducing

2211
01:59:06,720 --> 01:59:10,360
Speaker 1: my dog. Say hello everybody to my little friend.

2212
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Speaker 3: Like just doesn't we got a streets me laugh?

2213
01:59:14,640 --> 01:59:17,720
Speaker 1: So I hear from you guy, you know, and b

2214
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Speaker 1: hit me in the morning. It's the best, oh ri

2215
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Speaker 1: ip my fake acting career.

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Speaker 2: That will never happen. You're gonna get discovered. Man, We're

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Speaker 2: the fellas right here. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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2234
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Speaker 2: So yeah, in case you missed, it was fun. We

2235
02:00:32,720 --> 02:00:38,040
Speaker 2: had a fun to fiery debate about the NBA, the NHL,

2236
02:00:38,520 --> 02:00:42,160
Speaker 2: the you know, the load management, everything that's you know

2237
02:00:42,280 --> 02:00:46,080
Speaker 2: you've heard all week long but my hero PK Suband

2238
02:00:46,400 --> 02:00:51,560
Speaker 2: just was making the rounds and I just loved his messaging.

2239
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Speaker 1: So I was I was all about it, and.

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Speaker 2: Quite frankly, I thought you would agree. Ah what It's

2241
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Speaker 2: made for a fun first hour, FITZI.

2242
02:01:05,160 --> 02:01:07,560
Speaker 3: Look like I said earlier too, I just got to

2243
02:01:07,640 --> 02:01:10,800
Speaker 3: understand that, you know, brothers can get into a sports

2244
02:01:10,840 --> 02:01:12,760
Speaker 3: bar and have a heated argument. That's what we always

2245
02:01:12,800 --> 02:01:14,960
Speaker 3: love to do, you know. So I think at some

2246
02:01:15,080 --> 02:01:17,920
Speaker 3: point looking at it, and I want to be clear

2247
02:01:18,000 --> 02:01:20,160
Speaker 3: because you know, you can go back and listen to

2248
02:01:20,560 --> 02:01:23,880
Speaker 3: some of our debate. There is no doubt about the

2249
02:01:24,040 --> 02:01:28,600
Speaker 3: fact that I want, like personally altruistically, I don't want

2250
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Speaker 3: I don't want it to get twisted here. I would

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02:01:30,520 --> 02:01:34,640
Speaker 3: love to see any any sport give me the level

2252
02:01:34,680 --> 02:01:37,320
Speaker 3: of effort I think the NFL gives me every single Sunday,

2253
02:01:37,640 --> 02:01:40,600
Speaker 3: or college football gives me every single Saturday. Because teams

2254
02:01:40,640 --> 02:01:43,880
Speaker 3: certainly come out flat. Sometimes that's gonna happen. But when

2255
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Speaker 3: you want to talk about part of the reason that

2256
02:01:45,520 --> 02:01:48,080
Speaker 3: we love you know, Fox Sports Saturdays that were usually

2257
02:01:48,120 --> 02:01:50,960
Speaker 3: Fox Football Saturdays, that were used forund on Saturday mornings,

2258
02:01:51,600 --> 02:01:54,120
Speaker 3: is I would make the argument that you can go

2259
02:01:54,320 --> 02:01:56,960
Speaker 3: to a Vandy game when they stuck. You can go

2260
02:01:57,000 --> 02:01:59,880
Speaker 3: to a Yukon game when they're no good. I'm talking

2261
02:02:00,120 --> 02:02:03,280
Speaker 3: college football, and you're still gonna see maximum effort. Like

2262
02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:05,600
Speaker 3: they may not be talented enough, but you're still gonna

2263
02:02:05,600 --> 02:02:08,040
Speaker 3: see maximum effort. One of the things I love more

2264
02:02:08,120 --> 02:02:10,360
Speaker 3: often than not about college football in the NFL is

2265
02:02:10,400 --> 02:02:13,560
Speaker 3: because of the limited inventory. Everybody gets up for every

2266
02:02:13,880 --> 02:02:16,480
Speaker 3: single game and it just it means more and you

2267
02:02:16,520 --> 02:02:17,600
Speaker 3: can feel that to your core.

2268
02:02:19,240 --> 02:02:23,640
Speaker 1: You know, the thing that rankles me, I guess the most.

2269
02:02:25,280 --> 02:02:31,320
Speaker 2: Is football inherently the sport, so it's hard to compare

2270
02:02:31,320 --> 02:02:34,880
Speaker 2: it to anything else, and it's you know, even PK

2271
02:02:35,080 --> 02:02:37,680
Speaker 2: su Bad admitted this about the culture of hockey, like

2272
02:02:37,760 --> 02:02:43,680
Speaker 2: it's impossible to compare. Forget about the popularity of the sport,

2273
02:02:44,080 --> 02:02:47,960
Speaker 2: but the competitive spirit of the sport, because there is

2274
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Speaker 2: a different.

2275
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Speaker 1: Culture in the NFL.

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02:02:49,720 --> 02:02:56,920
Speaker 2: Obviously, football is such the physicality, the weekly nature of it,

2277
02:02:57,200 --> 02:03:01,960
Speaker 2: it just makes for every game heightened, It makes for

2278
02:03:02,040 --> 02:03:06,960
Speaker 2: the highly just so competitive, and I do think that

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02:03:07,880 --> 02:03:13,080
Speaker 2: that's one aspect that's not up to part where it

2280
02:03:13,320 --> 02:03:15,920
Speaker 2: was in the past. Not to be get off my lawn,

2281
02:03:17,040 --> 02:03:22,200
Speaker 2: but the competitive aspect. Now there's factors right to all

2282
02:03:22,240 --> 02:03:24,880
Speaker 2: the other things that the load management devaluing of the

2283
02:03:24,920 --> 02:03:30,400
Speaker 2: regular season ANAAU. I think AAU and I've had this

2284
02:03:30,480 --> 02:03:33,680
Speaker 2: conversation with Tim Legler. We were talking about legs earlier,

2285
02:03:34,440 --> 02:03:38,480
Speaker 2: but there's an AAU mentality when you're playing AAU games,

2286
02:03:38,720 --> 02:03:44,480
Speaker 2: you're just there to showcase your game, and not winning

2287
02:03:44,640 --> 02:03:49,760
Speaker 2: it devalues winning. It's not about team, it's about AAU

2288
02:03:50,080 --> 02:03:56,160
Speaker 2: and showcasing your own skills. That I think erodes competitive spirit.

2289
02:03:57,880 --> 02:04:00,640
Speaker 3: That I don't disagreet with to any other that I

2290
02:04:00,800 --> 02:04:06,120
Speaker 3: also think if we're being honest and the friendships created,

2291
02:04:06,200 --> 02:04:11,120
Speaker 3: relationships created in AAU are real and they mean so much,

2292
02:04:12,280 --> 02:04:14,720
Speaker 3: but it takes away some of that edge too. Like

2293
02:04:14,920 --> 02:04:18,440
Speaker 3: I I don't believe and I'm not I'm not saying

2294
02:04:18,480 --> 02:04:20,240
Speaker 3: this is right or wrong. I just think if we

2295
02:04:20,320 --> 02:04:22,280
Speaker 3: went back to the eighties and you were in a

2296
02:04:22,360 --> 02:04:25,080
Speaker 3: sports bar and Isaiah Thomas and Michael Jordan walked in,

2297
02:04:25,480 --> 02:04:27,320
Speaker 3: I don't think that they're having a beer together at

2298
02:04:27,360 --> 02:04:29,839
Speaker 3: that moment, and those Celtics players weren't happy.

2299
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Speaker 2: Together, right And like now, Barkley and Jordan would be

2300
02:04:35,440 --> 02:04:37,600
Speaker 2: down of beers, but on the floor man, they hate

2301
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Speaker 2: each other.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean we've got and that's going all

2303
02:04:42,080 --> 02:04:43,440
Speaker 3: the way back if you if you want to go

2304
02:04:43,480 --> 02:04:46,040
Speaker 3: to how many times we've seen sort of the competitive

2305
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Speaker 3: edge of guys like Kobe certainly you know iverson Yeah,

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02:04:50,320 --> 02:04:53,600
Speaker 3: Like the fact is they genuinely I think there were

2307
02:04:53,600 --> 02:04:56,600
Speaker 3: a lot of players in different eras that genuinely didn't

2308
02:04:56,760 --> 02:04:58,720
Speaker 3: like each other and there's just less of that now

2309
02:04:59,120 --> 02:05:02,200
Speaker 3: and we see that across all sports. I don't think

2310
02:05:02,240 --> 02:05:05,880
Speaker 3: that that necessarily means that it's the death of competitiveness.

2311
02:05:05,960 --> 02:05:09,320
Speaker 3: Like I've flat out talked to Max Crosby a couple

2312
02:05:09,360 --> 02:05:11,800
Speaker 3: of times about the pass Rush Summit and asked, like,

2313
02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:15,040
Speaker 3: why are you so willing to help your opponent? Like

2314
02:05:15,160 --> 02:05:17,440
Speaker 3: why are you, as a pass rusher willing to sit

2315
02:05:17,520 --> 02:05:20,000
Speaker 3: there and help a Denver Broncos pass rusher when the

2316
02:05:20,840 --> 02:05:24,480
Speaker 3: concept is, you know, we don't we want to win

2317
02:05:24,560 --> 02:05:26,200
Speaker 3: at all costs. And his answer was, I want to

2318
02:05:26,240 --> 02:05:29,120
Speaker 3: beat everybody at their best, and as a result, there's

2319
02:05:29,160 --> 02:05:30,920
Speaker 3: a brotherhood to making it to the NFL, and we

2320
02:05:30,960 --> 02:05:32,480
Speaker 3: all want to help each other be our best and

2321
02:05:32,520 --> 02:05:34,360
Speaker 3: then beat each other at our best. So I do

2322
02:05:34,520 --> 02:05:37,760
Speaker 3: believe you can have camaraderie, brotherhood off the field and

2323
02:05:37,920 --> 02:05:40,600
Speaker 3: still put that aside and see what it results on

2324
02:05:40,680 --> 02:05:42,480
Speaker 3: the field. Like I want to be clear about that,

2325
02:05:43,040 --> 02:05:47,080
Speaker 3: there seems to be some lack of that at times

2326
02:05:47,240 --> 02:05:49,280
Speaker 3: in the NBA right now, and that is that is

2327
02:05:49,360 --> 02:05:51,400
Speaker 3: the difference. I mean, if you want to go down

2328
02:05:51,440 --> 02:05:54,240
Speaker 3: to the core of four Nations versus the NBA, we

2329
02:05:54,320 --> 02:05:56,240
Speaker 3: saw the gloves drop three times in the first what

2330
02:05:56,440 --> 02:06:00,720
Speaker 3: fifteen seconds of that Saturday night matchup because there was

2331
02:06:00,800 --> 02:06:02,840
Speaker 3: a fire in the belly, Like there's a fire in

2332
02:06:02,880 --> 02:06:05,240
Speaker 3: the belly. And I don't know that that fire in

2333
02:06:05,280 --> 02:06:08,120
Speaker 3: the belly always exists from guy to guy, from from

2334
02:06:08,160 --> 02:06:10,640
Speaker 3: player to player, that competitive edge. I don't know that

2335
02:06:10,800 --> 02:06:13,520
Speaker 3: it still exists when you watch basketball on any given night.

2336
02:06:14,720 --> 02:06:19,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, and that's something that Kobe mentality.

2337
02:06:20,480 --> 02:06:23,960
Speaker 2: It's kind of what I miss, man, Like, that's what

2338
02:06:24,320 --> 02:06:28,040
Speaker 2: miss is missing from the regular season. Now it'll be

2339
02:06:28,120 --> 02:06:32,920
Speaker 2: there in the playoffs, but there was, you know, it's

2340
02:06:33,040 --> 02:06:37,800
Speaker 2: it's what made it made the regular season interesting, Like

2341
02:06:38,080 --> 02:06:41,280
Speaker 2: you know what I miss And and this isn't ancient history,

2342
02:06:41,400 --> 02:06:43,800
Speaker 2: like this is not you know, oh my god, when

2343
02:06:43,880 --> 02:06:48,280
Speaker 2: I was growing up, I just missed like Sunday afternoons

2344
02:06:48,320 --> 02:06:54,160
Speaker 2: that mattered games, you know, Sunday afternoon national games in

2345
02:06:54,360 --> 02:06:57,840
Speaker 2: February March, like as soon as football was over, they

2346
02:06:57,920 --> 02:07:00,120
Speaker 2: had the you know, at the one o'clock game, the

2347
02:07:00,160 --> 02:07:03,800
Speaker 2: three thirty game, and those games matter like they.

2348
02:07:03,480 --> 02:07:04,040
Speaker 1: Wanted to win.

2349
02:07:04,800 --> 02:07:09,720
Speaker 2: There was like that that really like highly competitive that

2350
02:07:09,920 --> 02:07:15,240
Speaker 2: you're on national TV, you know, and again this isn't

2351
02:07:16,880 --> 02:07:21,360
Speaker 2: this is f post Kobe. Those games would be riveting

2352
02:07:21,440 --> 02:07:26,160
Speaker 2: and interesting. I mean, young k Dan is prime Lebron?

2353
02:07:27,480 --> 02:07:31,520
Speaker 3: What is because I think there are players right now,

2354
02:07:32,280 --> 02:07:37,120
Speaker 3: you know, I'll go back to Jason Tatum, you know, Gas,

2355
02:07:37,160 --> 02:07:39,880
Speaker 3: there's plenty of players that are resonating.

2356
02:07:40,760 --> 02:07:44,440
Speaker 2: But I can't believe I'm saying this because he's a

2357
02:07:44,520 --> 02:07:49,360
Speaker 2: Celtic and being from Philadelphia, I hate the Celtics and

2358
02:07:49,480 --> 02:07:53,640
Speaker 2: I always won't hate the Celtics like I hate the Cowboys, right.

2359
02:07:55,320 --> 02:07:56,480
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum's demand.

2360
02:07:57,360 --> 02:08:03,680
Speaker 2: The other night, we had the Philadelphia Catholic League semifinals,

2361
02:08:03,880 --> 02:08:10,360
Speaker 2: high school semifinals at the Polestra, which is an incredible

2362
02:08:10,800 --> 02:08:16,120
Speaker 2: storied building right of basketball, and who shows up.

2363
02:08:17,640 --> 02:08:19,000
Speaker 1: But Jason Tatum.

2364
02:08:19,920 --> 02:08:24,959
Speaker 2: And there's no boxes, like there's no sweets in the Palaestra.

2365
02:08:25,960 --> 02:08:30,120
Speaker 2: So when somebody called for him to get tickets, they

2366
02:08:30,160 --> 02:08:32,920
Speaker 2: were told, hey, listen, there's no you know, there's no boxes.

2367
02:08:32,960 --> 02:08:35,320
Speaker 2: He's gonna have to sit with the people. And he's like,

2368
02:08:35,440 --> 02:08:37,880
Speaker 2: no problem, Like, you know, we have a team dinner.

2369
02:08:37,920 --> 02:08:40,040
Speaker 2: I heard about this. I want to go come see it.

2370
02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:43,920
Speaker 2: And he stayed for the first game of the semifinals.

2371
02:08:44,000 --> 02:08:47,000
Speaker 2: Then he had a team dinner. I thought it was awesome.

2372
02:08:47,520 --> 02:08:51,400
Speaker 9: I mean I loved it, Like that's what's cool that

2373
02:08:51,600 --> 02:08:55,200
Speaker 9: there's Tatum coming to the polester to watch high school

2374
02:08:55,280 --> 02:08:58,200
Speaker 9: kids on the road, Like, God bless you.

2375
02:09:00,440 --> 02:09:04,160
Speaker 3: That's that again. That speaks to not everybody loses the

2376
02:09:04,200 --> 02:09:07,400
Speaker 3: love of the game, you know, right. And I also

2377
02:09:07,520 --> 02:09:12,720
Speaker 3: think that there are plenty of players in the NBA that,

2378
02:09:13,240 --> 02:09:15,640
Speaker 3: you know, it does become such a business. Sometimes it's

2379
02:09:15,720 --> 02:09:18,680
Speaker 3: just fun to go back and watch when it didn't

2380
02:09:18,680 --> 02:09:20,640
Speaker 3: feel that way. You know, sometimes it's fun to be

2381
02:09:20,720 --> 02:09:23,000
Speaker 3: around the game just for what the game is and

2382
02:09:23,080 --> 02:09:25,040
Speaker 3: for the hope that it's you know, that it means

2383
02:09:25,120 --> 02:09:27,040
Speaker 3: to so many people's lives and all those different things.

2384
02:09:27,680 --> 02:09:31,440
Speaker 3: I think there are certainly players that have that level.

2385
02:09:31,560 --> 02:09:35,760
Speaker 3: Now my question to use because like, okay, if we

2386
02:09:35,840 --> 02:09:39,040
Speaker 3: go back ten twenty thirty years, there were certain TV

2387
02:09:39,560 --> 02:09:43,320
Speaker 3: moments that were so significant, like for for us as kids,

2388
02:09:43,760 --> 02:09:46,760
Speaker 3: like the NBA on NBC right, like, you knew it

2389
02:09:46,880 --> 02:09:49,360
Speaker 3: was a special game when you heard the music, you knew,

2390
02:09:49,840 --> 02:09:53,120
Speaker 3: you knew it was different. What is that window now?

2391
02:09:53,280 --> 02:09:55,680
Speaker 3: Like is that Thursday night T and T basketball? Like

2392
02:09:55,960 --> 02:09:57,920
Speaker 3: if you were a play because if you're in the NFL,

2393
02:09:58,440 --> 02:10:00,840
Speaker 3: you want you're on Sunday Night football. And I would

2394
02:10:00,880 --> 02:10:03,160
Speaker 3: make the argument all day that Sunday Night Football means

2395
02:10:03,200 --> 02:10:04,920
Speaker 3: more than Monday Night football to a lot of players

2396
02:10:04,960 --> 02:10:06,960
Speaker 3: at this point. But if you're on either of those,

2397
02:10:07,280 --> 02:10:09,960
Speaker 3: you understand, man, the world is watching like this feels

2398
02:10:10,000 --> 02:10:13,000
Speaker 3: like a bigger time college football. Certainly, we hear college

2399
02:10:13,040 --> 02:10:15,960
Speaker 3: football fans rail all the time about time slots and

2400
02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:18,000
Speaker 3: why is this game at noon? Because there's something about

2401
02:10:18,560 --> 02:10:21,840
Speaker 3: a Saturday night game, you know, yeah, Like there's something

2402
02:10:21,840 --> 02:10:24,200
Speaker 3: about a wide out at night that means something from

2403
02:10:24,240 --> 02:10:27,520
Speaker 3: Happy Valley. If you're an NBA player in the regular season,

2404
02:10:28,080 --> 02:10:30,440
Speaker 3: what is the window that you sit back and say,

2405
02:10:30,520 --> 02:10:33,280
Speaker 3: oh wait, man, tonight's different. We got to bring it

2406
02:10:33,600 --> 02:10:36,600
Speaker 3: because I would argue that the way TV packages work

2407
02:10:36,640 --> 02:10:39,720
Speaker 3: and streaming works, and the way that everything's spread out

2408
02:10:39,720 --> 02:10:42,280
Speaker 3: everywhere and the way we consume I don't even know

2409
02:10:42,400 --> 02:10:45,120
Speaker 3: if there is that special. Got to get up for

2410
02:10:45,240 --> 02:10:48,280
Speaker 3: it for this game every single week, and I think

2411
02:10:48,320 --> 02:10:51,520
Speaker 3: that's a problem. You've got to have landmark moments that

2412
02:10:51,640 --> 02:10:54,000
Speaker 3: even the players feel it, the fans feel it, the

2413
02:10:54,040 --> 02:10:57,240
Speaker 3: building feels that, the TV feels it, everybody flocks to it.

2414
02:10:57,320 --> 02:10:59,600
Speaker 3: That's what Fox is trying to create on Friday nights

2415
02:10:59,600 --> 02:11:02,440
Speaker 3: with colle basketball. That's why they put Michigan State Michigan

2416
02:11:02,520 --> 02:11:03,960
Speaker 3: last night. Like I love that.

2417
02:11:04,160 --> 02:11:06,400
Speaker 1: I love that special window, special feelings.

2418
02:11:06,480 --> 02:11:07,560
Speaker 3: I don't know where that exists.

2419
02:11:07,720 --> 02:11:10,680
Speaker 2: Gus on the call, I'm a big guys, Johnson fand

2420
02:11:10,720 --> 02:11:15,760
Speaker 2: I guess it's the best. They doesn't exist, you know,

2421
02:11:16,040 --> 02:11:19,880
Speaker 2: to some extent, and it's very it's it's nowhere near

2422
02:11:20,000 --> 02:11:20,760
Speaker 2: the other sports.

2423
02:11:21,440 --> 02:11:25,240
Speaker 1: It is the it's the TNT only because and you

2424
02:11:25,320 --> 02:11:27,839
Speaker 1: know who made that, Shack and Charles.

2425
02:11:29,000 --> 02:11:34,200
Speaker 2: Because Shack and Charles would rip guys, and those guys

2426
02:11:34,920 --> 02:11:38,360
Speaker 2: there were players that would want to play to shut up,

2427
02:11:38,640 --> 02:11:41,840
Speaker 2: to shut Charles and Shack up, right like that, that

2428
02:11:42,120 --> 02:11:44,160
Speaker 2: was it. They didn't do it of course with each other.

2429
02:11:44,800 --> 02:11:47,760
Speaker 2: They did it because Chuck and and Shack would be

2430
02:11:48,080 --> 02:11:50,120
Speaker 2: you know, would be busted on them.

2431
02:11:50,280 --> 02:11:54,200
Speaker 3: You're right, they're like when I think of Landmark must

2432
02:11:54,280 --> 02:11:57,600
Speaker 3: watch TV around the NBA, I think of the pregame show.

2433
02:11:58,040 --> 02:12:01,080
Speaker 3: I think I think of Shack and Charles more than

2434
02:12:01,080 --> 02:12:03,240
Speaker 3: I think if anything that's actually happening at a window

2435
02:12:03,920 --> 02:12:05,480
Speaker 3: and that that's that's weird.

2436
02:12:05,720 --> 02:12:08,520
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like, that's that's not good. Yeah,

2437
02:12:09,560 --> 02:12:11,000
Speaker 1: because you want the games.

2438
02:12:11,480 --> 02:12:14,720
Speaker 2: That's that's my only Like what pains me about the

2439
02:12:14,960 --> 02:12:20,800
Speaker 2: NBA is the games aren't special, like we were debating,

2440
02:12:21,000 --> 02:12:27,440
Speaker 2: and I actually think we agree on this. Kids, kids

2441
02:12:27,480 --> 02:12:31,040
Speaker 2: who watch games, kids who watch the NBA, they watching

2442
02:12:31,160 --> 02:12:34,080
Speaker 2: in highlights and snippets, right, yep.

2443
02:12:34,640 --> 02:12:37,960
Speaker 1: And you know two K is a big part of it.

2444
02:12:38,360 --> 02:12:41,200
Speaker 2: But they when they watch games like they don't they're

2445
02:12:41,240 --> 02:12:46,840
Speaker 2: not sitting down and watching games. They're watching highlights. And

2446
02:12:47,080 --> 02:12:51,680
Speaker 2: that's not good, like they you gotta be able to

2447
02:12:51,840 --> 02:12:54,160
Speaker 2: hold people's attention for a game.

2448
02:12:55,520 --> 02:12:58,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I think what's interesting is everything you just

2449
02:12:58,480 --> 02:13:01,640
Speaker 3: said is so true and I don't know how you

2450
02:13:01,800 --> 02:13:03,520
Speaker 3: change it. And this is something you know, you and

2451
02:13:03,560 --> 02:13:06,360
Speaker 3: I talked about a few months ago, but it was interesting.

2452
02:13:06,400 --> 02:13:10,800
Speaker 3: I was watching an interview with studio executives talking about

2453
02:13:10,920 --> 02:13:14,480
Speaker 3: making content for Netflix, and they had turned in a

2454
02:13:14,640 --> 02:13:19,000
Speaker 3: movie from the studio to Netflix, and Netflix brought it

2455
02:13:19,080 --> 02:13:20,320
Speaker 3: back to him and said, hey, you got to re

2456
02:13:20,480 --> 02:13:23,320
Speaker 3: edit it because it's not second screen friendly. And the

2457
02:13:23,360 --> 02:13:25,920
Speaker 3: studio said, what do you mean? And Netflix came in

2458
02:13:26,000 --> 02:13:28,800
Speaker 3: and said, it's too complicated. You can't watch it while

2459
02:13:28,880 --> 02:13:30,640
Speaker 3: you're on your phone, and we need this to be

2460
02:13:30,720 --> 02:13:32,680
Speaker 3: something that people can watch while they're on their phone.

2461
02:13:33,200 --> 02:13:36,560
Speaker 3: And that speaks to the degrading attention spans at this point,

2462
02:13:36,960 --> 02:13:39,960
Speaker 3: and it speaks to the fact that people like you

2463
02:13:40,080 --> 02:13:42,840
Speaker 3: can't even get someone now. And how often does this

2464
02:13:42,920 --> 02:13:45,000
Speaker 3: happen in all of our lives? Think about how often

2465
02:13:45,080 --> 02:13:47,400
Speaker 3: you sit down to watch a TV show and you

2466
02:13:47,520 --> 02:13:48,920
Speaker 3: look at the living room and all of a sudden

2467
02:13:48,920 --> 02:13:50,880
Speaker 3: you're like, man, everybody that's here is on their phone.

2468
02:13:50,920 --> 02:13:52,640
Speaker 3: We're not even watching this. And then all of a sudden,

2469
02:13:52,840 --> 02:13:54,560
Speaker 3: my head pops up and it's like, wait, who's that guy?

2470
02:13:54,640 --> 02:13:57,480
Speaker 3: And what's going on here again. It's why when I

2471
02:13:57,720 --> 02:14:00,600
Speaker 3: invest in a new show, like if I'm going to

2472
02:14:00,640 --> 02:14:03,160
Speaker 3: go in and watch Succession, you know, like I had

2473
02:14:03,240 --> 02:14:05,600
Speaker 3: to like stop everything and say Okay, how am I

2474
02:14:05,680 --> 02:14:08,280
Speaker 3: watching this? You know? And I got to pay attention,

2475
02:14:08,480 --> 02:14:12,280
Speaker 3: And unfortunately, I don't know how we reverse this one

2476
02:14:12,360 --> 02:14:15,560
Speaker 3: hundred percent. I don't know how we reverse this trend

2477
02:14:15,760 --> 02:14:20,000
Speaker 3: because more and more, whether it's music, whether it's TV,

2478
02:14:20,200 --> 02:14:24,200
Speaker 3: whether it's sports, more and more, everything's being programmed for

2479
02:14:24,800 --> 02:14:28,120
Speaker 3: people that need you know, you need something to hold

2480
02:14:28,120 --> 02:14:30,880
Speaker 3: your attention, So how do you hold like that? Those

2481
02:14:30,960 --> 02:14:32,880
Speaker 3: are the reasons that I do think there's meaning to

2482
02:14:32,920 --> 02:14:35,280
Speaker 3: the conversation of how to speed up the game presentation

2483
02:14:35,400 --> 02:14:37,720
Speaker 3: and how to make it feel more frantic, because if

2484
02:14:37,760 --> 02:14:41,000
Speaker 3: you want people to continue to watch a full product

2485
02:14:41,320 --> 02:14:44,040
Speaker 3: college basketball, for example, you can't make the last three

2486
02:14:44,080 --> 02:14:46,600
Speaker 3: minutes of your game take forty like you just get like.

2487
02:14:47,000 --> 02:14:50,200
Speaker 3: You will lose an audience over time if everything gets

2488
02:14:50,280 --> 02:14:53,760
Speaker 3: delayed more and more and more. You have to be proactive,

2489
02:14:53,840 --> 02:14:56,880
Speaker 3: not reactive to the fact that people are watching things

2490
02:14:56,920 --> 02:14:58,600
Speaker 3: in clips. You got to find a way to make

2491
02:14:58,640 --> 02:15:01,400
Speaker 3: your game interesting enough for people to want to sit

2492
02:15:01,480 --> 02:15:03,000
Speaker 3: there and watch. The whole thing. Is the reason the

2493
02:15:03,040 --> 02:15:05,880
Speaker 3: baseball struggles with the modern generation is because it's just

2494
02:15:05,960 --> 02:15:08,960
Speaker 3: not a good TV product. It's just we no longer

2495
02:15:09,120 --> 02:15:11,280
Speaker 3: as a society want to pop our feet up on

2496
02:15:11,320 --> 02:15:13,880
Speaker 3: the couch and watch a casual baseball game for two

2497
02:15:14,000 --> 02:15:17,440
Speaker 3: three hours, like we want. Everybody wants an action movie

2498
02:15:17,520 --> 02:15:18,440
Speaker 3: blasted in their face.

2499
02:15:19,600 --> 02:15:23,200
Speaker 2: Well, to your point off of that, it's why the

2500
02:15:23,320 --> 02:15:30,240
Speaker 2: Four Nations was so successful because you had an urgency, right,

2501
02:15:31,000 --> 02:15:34,440
Speaker 2: you had nationalism at stake.

2502
02:15:35,800 --> 02:15:37,800
Speaker 1: So you have these countries.

2503
02:15:37,960 --> 02:15:41,600
Speaker 2: The players bought in, right, and because the players buy in,

2504
02:15:42,600 --> 02:15:46,040
Speaker 2: there is a sense of urgency beyond the fights. There

2505
02:15:46,280 --> 02:15:51,280
Speaker 2: was a passion to win the game like there was

2506
02:15:51,640 --> 02:15:55,480
Speaker 2: and that was it was the nationalism. I mean britty

2507
02:15:55,560 --> 02:15:58,400
Speaker 2: k chuck, you know, flying up and down the ice.

2508
02:15:58,680 --> 02:16:02,839
Speaker 2: You went wow, right, and then the game's riveting because

2509
02:16:02,920 --> 02:16:06,080
Speaker 2: it's hockey and it's played when when you're when the

2510
02:16:06,240 --> 02:16:08,520
Speaker 2: two sports, when they're.

2511
02:16:08,440 --> 02:16:11,080
Speaker 1: Played at their elite is unbelievable.

2512
02:16:11,120 --> 02:16:15,480
Speaker 2: Like when you see Champions League soccer or World Cup soccer,

2513
02:16:16,240 --> 02:16:19,760
Speaker 2: you go, wow, this is this is unbelievable, right, Like

2514
02:16:20,320 --> 02:16:23,360
Speaker 2: this is impressive when you see that kind of like

2515
02:16:23,480 --> 02:16:27,680
Speaker 2: those teams of the roster put together in the NHL,

2516
02:16:28,640 --> 02:16:32,560
Speaker 2: you go, oh, man, that's the that's Connor McDavid up

2517
02:16:32,600 --> 02:16:35,440
Speaker 2: and down the same line as Nathan McKinnon. Right, Like

2518
02:16:35,840 --> 02:16:39,680
Speaker 2: you're like whoa, this is this is different, and so

2519
02:16:40,320 --> 02:16:44,200
Speaker 2: you watch that intently and that minute that's unique. It's

2520
02:16:44,240 --> 02:16:45,600
Speaker 2: hard to recreate that.

2521
02:16:46,520 --> 02:16:49,480
Speaker 3: The minute Canada boot our national anthem, everything changed too

2522
02:16:49,920 --> 02:16:52,960
Speaker 3: like that just yeah again, I like, I'm not I'm

2523
02:16:53,000 --> 02:16:54,840
Speaker 3: not here to get into politics. We don't do that

2524
02:16:54,959 --> 02:16:57,680
Speaker 3: on this show at all. I'm not making a political statement.

2525
02:16:57,760 --> 02:17:00,200
Speaker 3: I think we can all agree that right now now

2526
02:17:00,600 --> 02:17:03,520
Speaker 3: America is very divided, and there are people on both

2527
02:17:03,560 --> 02:17:05,280
Speaker 3: sides yelling at the people on the other side, and

2528
02:17:05,320 --> 02:17:07,840
Speaker 3: nobody's listening to each other anymore. Everybody thinks that the

2529
02:17:07,879 --> 02:17:09,800
Speaker 3: people on the other side are idiots, all right, So

2530
02:17:11,640 --> 02:17:14,520
Speaker 3: I'm ending my political discourse there with this conversation. I

2531
02:17:14,680 --> 02:17:17,840
Speaker 3: say that though, to say, when you have that information

2532
02:17:18,320 --> 02:17:21,600
Speaker 3: and you also then turn around and say, oh my god,

2533
02:17:21,879 --> 02:17:25,120
Speaker 3: look at the way we galvanize together the minute Canada

2534
02:17:25,160 --> 02:17:28,600
Speaker 3: boot our Anthem, And like, it doesn't matter what people

2535
02:17:28,680 --> 02:17:30,960
Speaker 3: think about different candidates, It doesn't matter what people think

2536
02:17:31,000 --> 02:17:33,480
Speaker 3: about different policies. All of a sudden, it's like whoa, whoa, whoa,

2537
02:17:33,520 --> 02:17:37,360
Speaker 3: whoa whoa, y'all are booing us like that ain't gonna happen,

2538
02:17:37,360 --> 02:17:39,000
Speaker 3: And so all of a sudden, it just took a

2539
02:17:39,080 --> 02:17:43,200
Speaker 3: different It took a different vibe, the entire thing take

2540
02:17:43,240 --> 02:17:46,080
Speaker 3: a different feel. And you know, this is a proud

2541
02:17:46,200 --> 02:17:49,800
Speaker 3: Italian Like how often do we hear people say, you know,

2542
02:17:50,120 --> 02:17:52,320
Speaker 3: my family can argue with each other all day long,

2543
02:17:52,600 --> 02:17:54,680
Speaker 3: but you don't get to argue with my family. And

2544
02:17:54,840 --> 02:17:57,959
Speaker 3: I felt like that was the moment where it was like, Okay,

2545
02:17:58,000 --> 02:18:00,280
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, this four Nations became bigger than

2546
02:18:00,480 --> 02:18:04,640
Speaker 3: just hockey. This four Nations was about politely screw you, Canada.

2547
02:18:04,720 --> 02:18:06,840
Speaker 3: You want to boo us, We'll come at you, you

2548
02:18:06,920 --> 02:18:10,080
Speaker 3: know what I mean. And so there was a galvanizing

2549
02:18:10,160 --> 02:18:13,280
Speaker 3: moment there that I found truly inspiring. I mean, I

2550
02:18:13,440 --> 02:18:15,600
Speaker 3: loved that for a few hours, we forgot about all

2551
02:18:15,640 --> 02:18:17,880
Speaker 3: of our differences and we all came together and said,

2552
02:18:17,920 --> 02:18:19,640
Speaker 3: there's one thing we can agree on here. We want

2553
02:18:19,680 --> 02:18:21,720
Speaker 3: to kick the snot out of Canada, which didn't happen,

2554
02:18:22,120 --> 02:18:25,440
Speaker 3: but the numbers were, you know, historic. I think in

2555
02:18:25,600 --> 02:18:28,640
Speaker 3: part because of that, we actually came together. That's what

2556
02:18:28,680 --> 02:18:30,560
Speaker 3: happens at the World Cup, people that don't even care

2557
02:18:30,600 --> 02:18:32,760
Speaker 3: about soccer, That's what happens at the Olympics every time,

2558
02:18:32,879 --> 02:18:35,320
Speaker 3: Like you don't know what a triple sukow Is or

2559
02:18:35,400 --> 02:18:38,080
Speaker 3: who any figure skater is. But we get to the

2560
02:18:38,160 --> 02:18:41,080
Speaker 3: dang Olympics and all of a sudden, we're experts on us.

2561
02:18:41,120 --> 02:18:43,279
Speaker 3: You shouldn't have gone for that one. That triple soukhow

2562
02:18:43,360 --> 02:18:45,800
Speaker 3: is never going to work. We become experts on it

2563
02:18:46,080 --> 02:18:48,720
Speaker 3: because we care about our country in those moments, and

2564
02:18:48,800 --> 02:18:50,959
Speaker 3: so I think that's part of the And I don't

2565
02:18:51,040 --> 02:18:54,440
Speaker 3: know if us versus the world in the NBA All Star,

2566
02:18:54,640 --> 02:18:57,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if it has that same impact. I don't,

2567
02:18:57,760 --> 02:19:00,320
Speaker 3: but I do know that it worked for hockey, worked

2568
02:19:00,320 --> 02:19:01,240
Speaker 3: in It was a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it really was. All I want to take a

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Speaker 1: quick t o the brain's going to join us, go

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Speaker 1: through uh the.

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Speaker 2: Betting weekend and then speaking of new shows, I got

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Speaker 2: a great new show that I gotta I can't wait

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Speaker 3: All right, listening? Wait, what are listening? To this game.

2584
02:19:49,520 --> 02:19:50,160
Speaker 3: It's well done.

2585
02:19:51,320 --> 02:19:52,039
Speaker 1: That's awesome.

2586
02:19:53,480 --> 02:19:57,920
Speaker 2: I wonder if cobrainnew this Good Morning Brain the newlywed.

2587
02:19:58,440 --> 02:20:01,680
Speaker 1: He is a newlywed. He was married last weekend.

2588
02:20:01,800 --> 02:20:05,959
Speaker 3: Well, congratulations, I appreciate that, buddy, thank you so much.

2589
02:20:07,440 --> 02:20:10,400
Speaker 1: Like, how's it going, man, how was the big night?

2590
02:20:11,120 --> 02:20:13,400
Speaker 1: I mean, audience worlds, I.

2591
02:20:13,480 --> 02:20:19,800
Speaker 7: Gotta tell you it was Listen, it was really amazing. Look,

2592
02:20:19,840 --> 02:20:23,040
Speaker 7: everyone has like a theoretically I get it, like a

2593
02:20:23,160 --> 02:20:26,720
Speaker 7: bias towards certain events in their life, and you know,

2594
02:20:27,160 --> 02:20:30,360
Speaker 7: but that you know, I can honestly say objectisig was

2595
02:20:30,400 --> 02:20:33,440
Speaker 7: probably you know, right, if there is the nicest wedding

2596
02:20:33,480 --> 02:20:35,040
Speaker 7: I've been doing, it happened to be mine. So it

2597
02:20:35,160 --> 02:20:38,039
Speaker 7: was very nice. It was beautiful, It was a really

2598
02:20:38,160 --> 02:20:40,720
Speaker 7: it was a great night. Uh so, yeah, I mean

2599
02:20:41,120 --> 02:20:43,480
Speaker 7: it was, it was. It was great, you know, very few.

2600
02:20:44,240 --> 02:20:46,200
Speaker 7: It's funny, I said, this guy's not trying to get

2601
02:20:46,240 --> 02:20:47,960
Speaker 7: too serious and everyone, but if you think about it,

2602
02:20:48,440 --> 02:20:52,960
Speaker 7: there's only two days in the world where theoretically, theoretically

2603
02:20:52,959 --> 02:20:54,920
Speaker 7: because obviously, you know, not everyone could be there that

2604
02:20:55,000 --> 02:20:57,879
Speaker 7: you want, obviously, but where the people who are closest

2605
02:20:57,879 --> 02:20:59,840
Speaker 7: to you, like your dream team, is under one roof

2606
02:21:00,280 --> 02:21:02,760
Speaker 7: is your funeral that's not helping you, and the other

2607
02:21:03,480 --> 02:21:05,840
Speaker 7: is your wedding. And you know, you get to see

2608
02:21:05,840 --> 02:21:07,520
Speaker 7: all the people that love you and that you care

2609
02:21:07,560 --> 02:21:11,160
Speaker 7: about all under one roof. And so to me, the

2610
02:21:11,320 --> 02:21:14,160
Speaker 7: order I get in this world, those days definitely mean

2611
02:21:14,280 --> 02:21:16,000
Speaker 7: way more to me than probably would have met like

2612
02:21:16,120 --> 02:21:19,920
Speaker 7: thirty years ago, twenty years ago. So it's definitely you know,

2613
02:21:20,160 --> 02:21:24,400
Speaker 7: important stuff and you know, anyway telling me to get

2614
02:21:24,400 --> 02:21:27,400
Speaker 7: too serious on you guys, but it was it was

2615
02:21:27,400 --> 02:21:28,320
Speaker 7: a good it was a good night.

2616
02:21:29,240 --> 02:21:32,840
Speaker 1: Good man, good man. I like, I think that's great. Uh.

2617
02:21:33,280 --> 02:21:38,680
Speaker 1: I to the uh to the games? Well, how it's

2618
02:21:38,760 --> 02:21:40,640
Speaker 1: basketball winding down?

2619
02:21:40,879 --> 02:21:42,760
Speaker 7: This is day Yep, we're getting there, man.

2620
02:21:43,160 --> 02:21:44,199
Speaker 1: Right pretty soon.

2621
02:21:45,080 --> 02:21:47,360
Speaker 2: The tournament's a week late this year? Is it March

2622
02:21:47,480 --> 02:21:50,840
Speaker 2: twenty first? I think I saw, So it's the it's

2623
02:21:50,959 --> 02:21:52,000
Speaker 2: the third week.

2624
02:21:52,720 --> 02:21:55,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh yeah, exactly. I used to man, I it

2625
02:21:56,080 --> 02:21:58,960
Speaker 7: used to be that way forever since I was I

2626
02:21:59,000 --> 02:22:04,199
Speaker 7: can't remember. Yeah, always was a week earlier. But you know, again,

2627
02:22:04,480 --> 02:22:07,280
Speaker 7: as much as I love the NFL, I do, I

2628
02:22:07,400 --> 02:22:10,440
Speaker 7: definitely like the college tournament, especially off myself in the NBA,

2629
02:22:10,680 --> 02:22:14,240
Speaker 7: I right out there is probably my second most enjoyable thing.

2630
02:22:14,280 --> 02:22:17,840
Speaker 7: I love watching the college basketball tournament, especially the early

2631
02:22:18,000 --> 02:22:21,160
Speaker 7: rounds to me are still incredibly exciting. Uh and just

2632
02:22:21,240 --> 02:22:24,960
Speaker 7: the pure emotion of seeing, like you know, the upsets

2633
02:22:25,000 --> 02:22:27,440
Speaker 7: and whatnot. So it should be a great tournament to year.

2634
02:22:27,440 --> 02:22:29,440
Speaker 7: I think it's a be a good college basketball year, anthy,

2635
02:22:29,520 --> 02:22:31,800
Speaker 7: I really do. I think there's a lot of teams

2636
02:22:31,800 --> 02:22:34,120
Speaker 7: I respect about this.

2637
02:22:34,560 --> 02:22:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were talking about it, how wide opening is.

2638
02:22:39,120 --> 02:22:40,160
Speaker 1: It's pretty interesting?

2639
02:22:41,080 --> 02:22:43,920
Speaker 3: Does that make a tougher to bet Brandon? Like for

2640
02:22:43,959 --> 02:22:45,600
Speaker 3: all of us that are going to start figuring out

2641
02:22:45,680 --> 02:22:46,800
Speaker 3: like but.

2642
02:22:47,040 --> 02:22:48,600
Speaker 7: Not not say but I gets funny. There's a couple

2643
02:22:48,600 --> 02:22:52,600
Speaker 7: of teams like in the past, right, guys, you almost

2644
02:22:52,640 --> 02:22:55,680
Speaker 7: could have said, like, let's take a team like Wisconsin. Okay,

2645
02:22:56,520 --> 02:22:59,680
Speaker 7: Wisconsin for I mean, god, I guess ever since getting

2646
02:22:59,680 --> 02:23:02,040
Speaker 7: that one year when they got there with uh with

2647
02:23:02,200 --> 02:23:04,480
Speaker 7: Bill Ryan and who's the guy, Oh my god, who's

2648
02:23:04,480 --> 02:23:06,119
Speaker 7: the big guy they had? They got to the finals,

2649
02:23:06,120 --> 02:23:08,760
Speaker 7: they lost the Duke by in a close game. Kaminski

2650
02:23:08,800 --> 02:23:13,280
Speaker 7: Frank Leminsky like Frank the Tank. But but that's the team.

2651
02:23:13,320 --> 02:23:15,520
Speaker 7: For example, you knew that Wisconsin whenever they got in

2652
02:23:15,560 --> 02:23:18,600
Speaker 7: the torn and they just had no you know they

2653
02:23:18,720 --> 02:23:21,160
Speaker 7: they were just they were always going to be outclassed

2654
02:23:21,160 --> 02:23:23,840
Speaker 7: and they played a quote unquote real opponent no matter

2655
02:23:24,000 --> 02:23:26,400
Speaker 7: you know, how they did in the Big Ten this year. Actually,

2656
02:23:26,480 --> 02:23:29,040
Speaker 7: Wisconsin's good. They've actually impressed me. I actually feel like

2657
02:23:29,120 --> 02:23:33,480
Speaker 7: it's like this is the best I think Wisconsin team

2658
02:23:33,520 --> 02:23:35,640
Speaker 7: we've seen in years. And I don't think they're sartainly

2659
02:23:35,640 --> 02:23:39,279
Speaker 7: team like part of respect in terms of people looking.

2660
02:23:39,040 --> 02:23:41,600
Speaker 1: At them, but respect.

2661
02:23:45,520 --> 02:23:48,520
Speaker 7: It did good. And again look yesterday, Michigan State has

2662
02:23:48,520 --> 02:23:50,720
Speaker 7: also been a good team. They wanted Michigan, thought Michigan

2663
02:23:50,800 --> 02:23:53,760
Speaker 7: was gonna win that one, but Michigan State has also

2664
02:23:53,879 --> 02:23:57,280
Speaker 7: been solid. Uh and I think Wisconsin is also another,

2665
02:23:57,280 --> 02:23:58,800
Speaker 7: as I said, another good team in the Big Ten.

2666
02:23:59,520 --> 02:24:03,600
Speaker 7: Again compared to listen, compared to the SEC, every conference

2667
02:24:03,720 --> 02:24:06,120
Speaker 7: is kind of going to look like, right, not good.

2668
02:24:06,680 --> 02:24:10,320
Speaker 7: But I mean, look when you have Alabama, Tennessee, Auburn,

2669
02:24:10,480 --> 02:24:13,880
Speaker 7: you know, Florida, Missouri, Texa A and m Kentucky, you know,

2670
02:24:14,000 --> 02:24:17,960
Speaker 7: it's ridiculous. But I do think the Big Ten is solid,

2671
02:24:18,120 --> 02:24:21,000
Speaker 7: and you know, I think you know, one of those

2672
02:24:21,040 --> 02:24:23,879
Speaker 7: teams could actually make a run, you know, produce even

2673
02:24:23,920 --> 02:24:25,680
Speaker 7: been Barren, I thought, although I don't think they're quite

2674
02:24:25,680 --> 02:24:28,959
Speaker 7: as good as some of these other teams. But Wisconsin

2675
02:24:29,080 --> 02:24:32,000
Speaker 7: team everyone's listening to looking for a longer shot team

2676
02:24:32,400 --> 02:24:34,520
Speaker 7: that no one in the nation would be talking about

2677
02:24:36,320 --> 02:24:38,680
Speaker 7: that you can get crazy big odds on in Wisconsin.

2678
02:24:38,760 --> 02:24:41,000
Speaker 7: For me, where I actually think in my ratings actually

2679
02:24:41,000 --> 02:24:42,360
Speaker 7: have as a top ten team. Believe it or not.

2680
02:24:43,840 --> 02:24:49,040
Speaker 2: Interesting game today because they got Oregon at noon on

2681
02:24:49,920 --> 02:24:50,560
Speaker 2: on Fox.

2682
02:24:51,280 --> 02:24:55,960
Speaker 7: Anything you like them, it's they're getting it's funny. I

2683
02:24:56,040 --> 02:24:58,920
Speaker 7: mean it was kind of getting real respect. They're laying

2684
02:24:59,200 --> 02:25:02,360
Speaker 7: eight and a half. Okay, so it's not like this

2685
02:25:02,560 --> 02:25:05,280
Speaker 7: is like they're getting like it's not you're getting them

2686
02:25:05,360 --> 02:25:07,440
Speaker 7: laying like five and a half here, we'd say, okay,

2687
02:25:07,920 --> 02:25:09,680
Speaker 7: this is just gonna be something I really like there.

2688
02:25:09,680 --> 02:25:10,880
Speaker 7: I mean eight and a half points. Think it's a

2689
02:25:10,959 --> 02:25:14,040
Speaker 7: decent Oregon's not great, but they're you know, they're a

2690
02:25:14,120 --> 02:25:17,480
Speaker 7: top forty team. They're a legitimate team. My numbers made

2691
02:25:17,520 --> 02:25:19,960
Speaker 7: this right around eight and a half. So I personally

2692
02:25:20,000 --> 02:25:21,720
Speaker 7: see any value in this game. I'll tell you a

2693
02:25:21,760 --> 02:25:24,760
Speaker 7: couple of things, Anthony that I did. It had value

2694
02:25:24,800 --> 02:25:27,440
Speaker 7: in college and again and I got pinched for it

2695
02:25:27,520 --> 02:25:31,200
Speaker 7: last by Anthony. I told you I and I tell

2696
02:25:31,280 --> 02:25:32,640
Speaker 7: myself not to do it, and I'm doing it again

2697
02:25:32,640 --> 02:25:36,240
Speaker 7: and pulling my hands on the hot fire. Like yesterday Villanova,

2698
02:25:36,480 --> 02:25:41,160
Speaker 7: I thought that line was a little too against Marquette.

2699
02:25:41,200 --> 02:25:42,720
Speaker 7: I thought Marquet should have been a little bit of

2700
02:25:42,760 --> 02:25:46,119
Speaker 7: a bigger favorite. Wisconsin absolutely got I'm sorry in Wisconsin,

2701
02:25:46,240 --> 02:25:49,880
Speaker 7: Villanova absolutely destroyed them. College basketball home teams to me

2702
02:25:50,040 --> 02:25:53,480
Speaker 7: have still like huge advantage in these games. Huge. That

2703
02:25:53,640 --> 02:25:56,959
Speaker 7: is one thing in the NBA whatever, even the NFL whatever,

2704
02:25:57,040 --> 02:25:59,320
Speaker 7: But in college basketball it is still extremely difficult for

2705
02:25:59,360 --> 02:26:01,240
Speaker 7: the road teams to And so what am I doing

2706
02:26:01,280 --> 02:26:04,000
Speaker 7: today with me? I'm still two games. I couldn't help myself.

2707
02:26:04,040 --> 02:26:07,760
Speaker 7: I just think the lines a little off. Kentucky Alabama. Look,

2708
02:26:07,800 --> 02:26:10,440
Speaker 7: I love Alabama. I think they're terrific team. You can

2709
02:26:10,480 --> 02:26:12,680
Speaker 7: get ten and a half with Kentucky. I just think

2710
02:26:12,760 --> 02:26:15,720
Speaker 7: that line's too high. Is good as Alabama is, as

2711
02:26:15,760 --> 02:26:19,600
Speaker 7: great as they are offensively, I think Kentucky can play.

2712
02:26:19,800 --> 02:26:22,520
Speaker 7: I think Kentucky is one of those teams that on

2713
02:26:22,600 --> 02:26:24,720
Speaker 7: any you know, that's setting any even Sunday, to me,

2714
02:26:24,760 --> 02:26:26,880
Speaker 7: as a team that any given steel Saturday. In this

2715
02:26:27,000 --> 02:26:29,760
Speaker 7: case with Kentucky, I think Kentucky in any given day

2716
02:26:29,800 --> 02:26:33,280
Speaker 7: can beat anyone. I really do. And ten and a half, man,

2717
02:26:33,360 --> 02:26:36,000
Speaker 7: I just take it's too high. I thought this should

2718
02:26:36,000 --> 02:26:38,160
Speaker 7: have been closer to nine. You want to give me

2719
02:26:38,200 --> 02:26:39,760
Speaker 7: an extra point in a half with the Kentucky team

2720
02:26:39,760 --> 02:26:43,440
Speaker 7: that I think is is good solid, I did bite

2721
02:26:43,480 --> 02:26:46,880
Speaker 7: on Kentucky and then by use playing in Arizona, l

2722
02:26:46,920 --> 02:26:50,000
Speaker 7: BYU is coming off like a fifty point win against Kansas.

2723
02:26:50,959 --> 02:26:54,480
Speaker 7: Obviously a big win for them. Arizona has been solid

2724
02:26:54,520 --> 02:26:57,039
Speaker 7: all year at Arizona usually does not get much margin

2725
02:26:57,160 --> 02:26:59,960
Speaker 7: in their games. A line seven and a half for Aras.

2726
02:27:00,840 --> 02:27:02,480
Speaker 7: I just thought this should be closer to a five

2727
02:27:02,560 --> 02:27:05,000
Speaker 7: and a half six, So, I you know, I bit

2728
02:27:05,120 --> 02:27:07,160
Speaker 7: with BYU. I think it's the solid team. I don't

2729
02:27:07,160 --> 02:27:10,240
Speaker 7: think I think they're that far apart. But again, do

2730
02:27:10,400 --> 02:27:12,560
Speaker 7: hate going against these teams in the road, but I

2731
02:27:12,600 --> 02:27:14,360
Speaker 7: did it twice. But because I think both numbers are

2732
02:27:14,440 --> 02:27:16,360
Speaker 7: just off, even factoring in the home court advantage.

2733
02:27:17,600 --> 02:27:20,680
Speaker 3: What about Duke, I mean we talked about Cooper flag earlier.

2734
02:27:20,760 --> 02:27:23,039
Speaker 3: Duke taken on them. Yeah, maybe there's not much there

2735
02:27:23,080 --> 02:27:25,040
Speaker 3: from the team standpoint, but is there anything with Cooper

2736
02:27:25,160 --> 02:27:26,760
Speaker 3: or anything that you do like out of that game.

2737
02:27:28,120 --> 02:27:31,160
Speaker 7: I mean, look, Illinois is a team that in my

2738
02:27:31,320 --> 02:27:33,480
Speaker 7: opinion is I don't love the trends of this team

2739
02:27:33,560 --> 02:27:36,160
Speaker 7: right now. They just I just did take Wisconsin against

2740
02:27:36,200 --> 02:27:39,520
Speaker 7: them against Illinois training was like earlier this week. I

2741
02:27:39,840 --> 02:27:44,080
Speaker 7: was last week and they got absolutely smoked the Lions

2742
02:27:44,240 --> 02:27:47,600
Speaker 7: eight and a half. So you know, and that game

2743
02:27:47,680 --> 02:27:49,320
Speaker 7: was only three and a half. And like, for example,

2744
02:27:49,360 --> 02:27:51,280
Speaker 7: I would much other laid three and a half with

2745
02:27:51,400 --> 02:27:54,960
Speaker 7: Wisconsin to me eight and a half with Duke. I

2746
02:27:55,040 --> 02:27:58,320
Speaker 7: think the fines again pretty close. Slightest of leans to Duke,

2747
02:27:59,120 --> 02:28:02,320
Speaker 7: slightest of leans year to Duke at home. Duke is

2748
02:28:02,440 --> 02:28:04,840
Speaker 7: not in my opinion though, guys. I mean well, I

2749
02:28:04,879 --> 02:28:07,119
Speaker 7: do have them ranked very high in my power ratings.

2750
02:28:07,640 --> 02:28:10,760
Speaker 7: They don't think they're they played like a hundred great teams.

2751
02:28:11,080 --> 02:28:15,279
Speaker 7: Just in my opinion, I'm not as high on the ACC.

2752
02:28:15,520 --> 02:28:17,640
Speaker 7: And you know, I like Clemson and I lost that

2753
02:28:17,760 --> 02:28:20,039
Speaker 7: game for example, and that was one of the teams

2754
02:28:20,040 --> 02:28:24,280
Speaker 7: I actually do respect in the ACC. But I just

2755
02:28:24,360 --> 02:28:26,480
Speaker 7: haven't loved the schedule that Duke's played. If they did

2756
02:28:26,560 --> 02:28:27,039
Speaker 7: beat all no.

2757
02:28:27,480 --> 02:28:31,240
Speaker 2: I will you're you're that's fair. The thing with Duke

2758
02:28:31,360 --> 02:28:34,360
Speaker 2: that scares me, I brought this up earlier, is that

2759
02:28:34,520 --> 02:28:35,600
Speaker 2: they come at you in.

2760
02:28:35,680 --> 02:28:44,520
Speaker 8: These waves, yess, and the waves scare me, man, because

2761
02:28:44,600 --> 02:28:46,240
Speaker 8: they can take over a game.

2762
02:28:47,800 --> 02:28:50,520
Speaker 7: They're certainly one of the top teams that can win

2763
02:28:50,600 --> 02:28:53,040
Speaker 7: this year in college basketball. And looks you actually have

2764
02:28:53,160 --> 02:28:57,760
Speaker 7: the mega teams like Auburn, Duke, you know, actually they're

2765
02:28:57,760 --> 02:29:00,240
Speaker 7: probably you know, I mean obviously Florida, I have super

2766
02:29:00,280 --> 02:29:02,600
Speaker 7: Fart in there too, uh. And then you have teams,

2767
02:29:02,760 --> 02:29:06,840
Speaker 7: you know, like Alabama that are right there. Houston potentially.

2768
02:29:06,959 --> 02:29:09,800
Speaker 7: I still think Youson is quite as good as their ranking,

2769
02:29:09,879 --> 02:29:12,680
Speaker 7: but they're obviously always well coached and at least better

2770
02:29:12,760 --> 02:29:15,120
Speaker 7: offensively this year in my opinion than they've been in

2771
02:29:15,240 --> 02:29:17,680
Speaker 7: years past. But Duke is obviously right there. They're going

2772
02:29:17,720 --> 02:29:19,240
Speaker 7: to get a number one seed and they're going to

2773
02:29:19,240 --> 02:29:21,080
Speaker 7: be very very tough to beat and flag to me

2774
02:29:21,120 --> 02:29:22,920
Speaker 7: as all that in the bag of chips, he's incredible.

2775
02:29:25,000 --> 02:29:28,240
Speaker 3: So where are you on the SEC overall? Is there

2776
02:29:28,280 --> 02:29:30,160
Speaker 3: a play on the SEC that we should be paying

2777
02:29:30,160 --> 02:29:32,320
Speaker 3: attention to that maybe we're not considering how deep that

2778
02:29:32,400 --> 02:29:32,880
Speaker 3: conference is?

2779
02:29:34,120 --> 02:29:37,000
Speaker 7: Well again, and it's funny, I had I think it's time. Well,

2780
02:29:37,040 --> 02:29:38,880
Speaker 7: but they're I mean, they're they have a tough game

2781
02:29:38,920 --> 02:29:41,280
Speaker 7: to day they play at Arkansas. But Missouri is a

2782
02:29:41,320 --> 02:29:43,600
Speaker 7: team that I love the way they've been playing. I

2783
02:29:43,680 --> 02:29:46,000
Speaker 7: took them into Alabama the other night and they beat

2784
02:29:46,040 --> 02:29:51,000
Speaker 7: them pretty easily. I think Missouri is is like really good.

2785
02:29:51,360 --> 02:29:52,840
Speaker 7: I mean, I think again, I think all these se

2786
02:29:52,959 --> 02:29:55,080
Speaker 7: tem teams are really good though, but that's the team

2787
02:29:55,120 --> 02:29:59,680
Speaker 7: that I think potentially could make a run come March.

2788
02:30:00,280 --> 02:30:00,360
Speaker 3: Uh.

2789
02:30:00,680 --> 02:30:02,520
Speaker 7: And then another team again a whato of the a SEC.

2790
02:30:02,680 --> 02:30:06,080
Speaker 7: I think Clemson. You know, I talked about Wisconsin two

2791
02:30:06,120 --> 02:30:08,080
Speaker 7: teams that the two teams I think I have their

2792
02:30:08,160 --> 02:30:10,240
Speaker 7: most according to where I think they are versus what

2793
02:30:10,360 --> 02:30:13,359
Speaker 7: I think the public trading of the mom would be Clemson,

2794
02:30:13,959 --> 02:30:17,400
Speaker 7: uh in Wisconsin. I think Clemson legitimately is good. I

2795
02:30:17,440 --> 02:30:19,560
Speaker 7: think this is the best Clemson basketball team we've had

2796
02:30:19,640 --> 02:30:23,360
Speaker 7: in Man. I don't even know Anthony since the Elden

2797
02:30:23,400 --> 02:30:24,640
Speaker 7: campbellty is if you remember him.

2798
02:30:25,040 --> 02:30:27,800
Speaker 1: I don't remember Albert Campbell played for the Lake a while.

2799
02:30:28,000 --> 02:30:31,959
Speaker 7: And I think Clemson is a team that I think

2800
02:30:32,000 --> 02:30:33,600
Speaker 7: has a chance to make a run. Two those are

2801
02:30:33,760 --> 02:30:36,240
Speaker 7: again looking for teams that maybe, like anyone can tell you,

2802
02:30:36,280 --> 02:30:38,879
Speaker 7: you think you know, Duke's good or all Burns good. Okay,

2803
02:30:38,920 --> 02:30:40,640
Speaker 7: you don't need to be a Rhodes scholar to know that.

2804
02:30:41,280 --> 02:30:43,520
Speaker 7: But a team like Clemson and me, if you're looking again,

2805
02:30:43,600 --> 02:30:46,320
Speaker 7: maybe teams is a long shot. You have some fun

2806
02:30:46,360 --> 02:30:49,200
Speaker 7: with pizza bets with I like Clemson. I think they're

2807
02:30:49,200 --> 02:30:50,560
Speaker 7: they're good this year, and I think that when I've

2808
02:30:50,560 --> 02:30:52,560
Speaker 7: watched them this year, they've impressed me. It virtually ever

2809
02:30:52,600 --> 02:30:53,400
Speaker 7: sold them they played.

2810
02:30:55,360 --> 02:30:58,760
Speaker 2: So let me ask you about today. Any plays you

2811
02:30:58,800 --> 02:31:01,080
Speaker 2: have circles? You know what do you got?

2812
02:31:01,240 --> 02:31:02,959
Speaker 1: Yeahs? Yeah?

2813
02:31:03,040 --> 02:31:05,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, again, I told I told you. I like the

2814
02:31:05,360 --> 02:31:08,320
Speaker 7: YU getting the seven and a half against Arizona fan.

2815
02:31:08,320 --> 02:31:09,960
Speaker 7: I do like Kentucky getting the ten and a half

2816
02:31:10,240 --> 02:31:13,480
Speaker 7: against Alabama. Again, I think both those lines are just.

2817
02:31:13,720 --> 02:31:15,760
Speaker 7: And again, I know it's hard to pick these road

2818
02:31:15,800 --> 02:31:18,160
Speaker 7: teams in college basketball, trust me, I get it. But

2819
02:31:18,280 --> 02:31:20,280
Speaker 7: I still think both those lines are little bit too high.

2820
02:31:20,680 --> 02:31:23,039
Speaker 7: And then Anthony real quick in the NBA a couple

2821
02:31:23,080 --> 02:31:29,520
Speaker 7: of games. Look, Rockets last night came up a really tough, good,

2822
02:31:29,840 --> 02:31:33,880
Speaker 7: hard fought earned win against Minnesota. Now they play it's interesting.

2823
02:31:34,200 --> 02:31:38,320
Speaker 7: You talk pretty interesting guys, but they've been scattering who

2824
02:31:38,360 --> 02:31:40,280
Speaker 7: they play. They got like they've been trying to quote

2825
02:31:40,320 --> 02:31:44,920
Speaker 7: unquote tank so to speak. But it's usually on back

2826
02:31:44,959 --> 02:31:47,600
Speaker 7: to back games, which is not for them. They've actually

2827
02:31:47,959 --> 02:31:50,680
Speaker 7: when they play their guys, they're really not a god

2828
02:31:50,720 --> 02:31:53,520
Speaker 7: awful team. They're really not. It's a painted seven and

2829
02:31:53,520 --> 02:31:56,480
Speaker 7: a half across the board right now at home against Houston,

2830
02:31:57,760 --> 02:31:59,480
Speaker 7: this is the game I'm gonna say right now, not

2831
02:31:59,600 --> 02:32:02,600
Speaker 7: only don't Cover would not be surprised if they went

2832
02:32:02,640 --> 02:32:05,080
Speaker 7: out right, Uh, they played well this year at home.

2833
02:32:05,400 --> 02:32:09,879
Speaker 7: They've been very respectable against top opponents like Houston. Off

2834
02:32:09,959 --> 02:32:13,080
Speaker 7: the back to back I think Utaw Covers won pretty

2835
02:32:13,080 --> 02:32:15,280
Speaker 7: easily in Axinggan. Would not be surprised if you win it.

2836
02:32:15,720 --> 02:32:16,879
Speaker 7: I don't need to explain this one.

2837
02:32:17,879 --> 02:32:21,400
Speaker 1: Too, because they lost to ok last night.

2838
02:32:21,920 --> 02:32:24,680
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, you're right, they did. My bad, They absolutely did. Yes,

2839
02:32:24,760 --> 02:32:27,600
Speaker 7: you're right, they did play but but but but but

2840
02:32:28,920 --> 02:32:33,400
Speaker 7: at home this year at Utah against now again against

2841
02:32:34,080 --> 02:32:38,119
Speaker 7: to me like Cleveland, Boston, Okay, see or the three

2842
02:32:38,160 --> 02:32:40,720
Speaker 7: teams that were putting that in this year's category, they've

2843
02:32:40,800 --> 02:32:43,240
Speaker 7: just dominated run roughs on of everyone. Utah for the

2844
02:32:43,280 --> 02:32:46,440
Speaker 7: most part, has played very well and consistent against and

2845
02:32:46,480 --> 02:32:51,160
Speaker 7: when I saw the projected lineups tonight, against Houston. They

2846
02:32:51,200 --> 02:32:56,280
Speaker 7: were still going to have Kefsler market in Collins and

2847
02:32:56,440 --> 02:32:59,320
Speaker 7: Collier from what I see right now. Again, I'll monitor it.

2848
02:32:59,480 --> 02:33:01,800
Speaker 7: If that ship just you know, I'll be sure to

2849
02:33:01,840 --> 02:33:03,920
Speaker 7: guard that. But still don't got lone was too high

2850
02:33:03,920 --> 02:33:07,360
Speaker 7: And then listen, Anthony, I don't understand how the Sixers.

2851
02:33:08,879 --> 02:33:12,680
Speaker 7: I know that the Nets are missing russelled night, and

2852
02:33:12,800 --> 02:33:15,720
Speaker 7: I know that you know they have Clason's questionable, But

2853
02:33:15,840 --> 02:33:17,440
Speaker 7: I don't know how the Sixers are laying eleven and

2854
02:33:17,440 --> 02:33:19,840
Speaker 7: a half points. I don't. This is a team that

2855
02:33:21,040 --> 02:33:26,879
Speaker 7: if anyone who has watched them torture, absolute torture watching

2856
02:33:26,920 --> 02:33:28,800
Speaker 7: this team. I mean, I wouldn't wish it on my worst.

2857
02:33:28,840 --> 02:33:30,480
Speaker 7: Maybe I would watch it on my worst. That's about

2858
02:33:30,480 --> 02:33:32,720
Speaker 7: who I would wish it on this But they are

2859
02:33:33,160 --> 02:33:34,920
Speaker 7: just and again do I think they'll win? Of course

2860
02:33:35,120 --> 02:33:37,440
Speaker 7: because they blow them out. Yes, Nets have kind of

2861
02:33:37,480 --> 02:33:39,920
Speaker 7: been a pesky team all year. Just think again, a

2862
02:33:39,959 --> 02:33:42,520
Speaker 7: lot of times Anthony would say, you bet numbers, not teams.

2863
02:33:42,760 --> 02:33:44,800
Speaker 7: I don't think the Nets are good, but just think

2864
02:33:44,840 --> 02:33:45,760
Speaker 7: it's a little bit too high.

2865
02:33:46,320 --> 02:33:52,840
Speaker 2: Hey, real quick tomorrow, yukon Saint John's. I like yukon

2866
02:33:52,959 --> 02:33:53,520
Speaker 2: that game.

2867
02:33:55,200 --> 02:33:59,160
Speaker 7: Well, you know, it's funny. I think Johnston really really,

2868
02:33:59,600 --> 02:34:03,160
Speaker 7: really consistently year Anthony, theyve been. This has been got

2869
02:34:03,200 --> 02:34:05,400
Speaker 7: you gotta give, Yeah, I mean you got you gotta

2870
02:34:05,480 --> 02:34:07,680
Speaker 7: you gotta give Patino like a lot of credit they've been.

2871
02:34:08,400 --> 02:34:12,000
Speaker 7: I mean they've been terrific. Now, Yukon after a slow start, Okay,

2872
02:34:12,360 --> 02:34:16,080
Speaker 7: early they lost those like first uh what three three

2873
02:34:16,120 --> 02:34:19,119
Speaker 7: games in a row at one point. Uh, But now

2874
02:34:19,400 --> 02:34:22,320
Speaker 7: look it's gonna be at Saint John's. They're gonna be

2875
02:34:22,360 --> 02:34:24,960
Speaker 7: catching a real number, Anthony, They're gonna be catching a

2876
02:34:25,040 --> 02:34:29,400
Speaker 7: real number. I again, depending what the number is, and

2877
02:34:29,600 --> 02:34:33,160
Speaker 7: I think me personally, I would make Saint John's six

2878
02:34:33,240 --> 02:34:35,320
Speaker 7: and a half. We'll see what it comes in at

2879
02:34:37,000 --> 02:34:38,920
Speaker 7: and I you know, I'm gonna base it off the number.

2880
02:34:38,959 --> 02:34:40,959
Speaker 7: But if this game comes into date, I'll lean Yukon.

2881
02:34:41,000 --> 02:34:43,520
Speaker 7: If it comes in at five, I'll lean Saint John's.

2882
02:34:43,600 --> 02:34:47,160
Speaker 7: But Yukon certainly is playing better. Uh for sure, lost

2883
02:34:47,200 --> 02:34:50,080
Speaker 7: the tough one seaton haul on the road by a point.

2884
02:34:50,160 --> 02:34:52,080
Speaker 7: But outside of that, you know, but this is a

2885
02:34:52,160 --> 02:34:54,560
Speaker 7: rematch too. You do get revenge because St. John's beat

2886
02:34:54,600 --> 02:34:58,560
Speaker 7: them in stores about three weeks ago. But uh, this

2887
02:34:58,760 --> 02:35:00,520
Speaker 7: is a dew Con team that certainly playing better than

2888
02:35:00,520 --> 02:35:01,400
Speaker 7: it was at the beginning.

2889
02:35:01,120 --> 02:35:01,440
Speaker 4: Of the year.

2890
02:35:01,920 --> 02:35:07,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh great stuff. Brain as always at brad Bets.

2891
02:35:07,360 --> 02:35:10,720
Speaker 7: Give you too quick prop I the sumer Chicago Bulls

2892
02:35:10,959 --> 02:35:13,560
Speaker 7: over three emphasis the average four point six thirty two

2893
02:35:13,600 --> 02:35:16,280
Speaker 7: and thirteen on the over. I'm like Luke over six mphasis.

2894
02:35:16,400 --> 02:35:18,600
Speaker 7: I know he changed teams, but I think it should

2895
02:35:18,600 --> 02:35:19,160
Speaker 7: be seven and a half.

2896
02:35:19,959 --> 02:35:25,560
Speaker 1: Sounds good, my man, the brain. Enjoy you guys.

2897
02:35:26,760 --> 02:35:28,520
Speaker 7: Thank you, mister. It was a pop new heart.

2898
02:35:31,120 --> 02:35:35,400
Speaker 2: We'll come back, fella, and uh wrap it up right

2899
02:35:35,480 --> 02:35:37,760
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio.

2900
02:35:40,280 --> 02:35:42,200
Speaker 1: Go ahead, FITZI, I.

2901
02:35:42,280 --> 02:35:45,039
Speaker 3: Got nothing to say for Frank. I mean, Frank says

2902
02:35:45,040 --> 02:35:45,440
Speaker 3: it all.

2903
02:35:49,240 --> 02:35:55,000
Speaker 2: Fellas wrapping one up on this uh Saturday in February,

2904
02:35:56,040 --> 02:35:57,840
Speaker 2: the twenty second, the last one.

2905
02:35:59,080 --> 02:35:59,200
Speaker 3: Uh.

2906
02:36:00,280 --> 02:36:02,560
Speaker 2: Hey, we're you know, we're looking for something to watch,

2907
02:36:02,640 --> 02:36:06,120
Speaker 2: right We're talking about you know, with sports, kind of football,

2908
02:36:06,200 --> 02:36:10,199
Speaker 2: really with without football. It's this is usually the time

2909
02:36:10,240 --> 02:36:15,320
Speaker 2: I'll watch shows, right Like, so I reintroduced myself to

2910
02:36:15,400 --> 02:36:18,800
Speaker 2: my wife and we do all of our shows together.

2911
02:36:19,760 --> 02:36:22,080
Speaker 2: And there's a new one out that I want to

2912
02:36:22,080 --> 02:36:26,720
Speaker 2: see if you're interested in. It's called A Thousand Blows.

2913
02:36:28,120 --> 02:36:34,160
Speaker 2: So it's created by Stephen Knight, who I love. Stephen

2914
02:36:34,240 --> 02:36:36,000
Speaker 2: Knight did Peaky Blinders.

2915
02:36:36,920 --> 02:36:37,760
Speaker 3: Oh, I love that show.

2916
02:36:38,320 --> 02:36:40,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of my favorites.

2917
02:36:41,280 --> 02:36:46,760
Speaker 2: So this one is about the Forty Elephants, which was

2918
02:36:46,879 --> 02:36:52,480
Speaker 2: an all female crime syndicate all right in the eighteen

2919
02:36:52,640 --> 02:36:56,680
Speaker 2: eighties of London in East London, and they clash with

2920
02:36:56,879 --> 02:37:02,640
Speaker 2: the bare knuckle boxing world. So it's got bare knuckle

2921
02:37:02,760 --> 02:37:10,360
Speaker 2: boxing gangsters and it's eighteen eighty London. Like, I love

2922
02:37:10,480 --> 02:37:12,120
Speaker 2: that stuff, So I can't wait for it.

2923
02:37:12,440 --> 02:37:14,720
Speaker 3: Okay, that sounds incredible. What what platform is that on?

2924
02:37:15,720 --> 02:37:16,520
Speaker 1: That's on Hulu?

2925
02:37:18,000 --> 02:37:20,800
Speaker 3: That sounds amazing. I'm all in for that, Like every answer.

2926
02:37:20,879 --> 02:37:23,880
Speaker 3: That sounds amazing. Period piece too, Like that's just yeah,

2927
02:37:24,000 --> 02:37:26,440
Speaker 3: it feels like exactly right right down right right down

2928
02:37:26,520 --> 02:37:27,920
Speaker 3: the aisle. I love that.

2929
02:37:28,480 --> 02:37:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm actually I can't. I'm really looking forward to that.

2930
02:37:32,800 --> 02:37:35,760
Speaker 2: There's also Everybody Loves White Lotus.

2931
02:37:37,720 --> 02:37:38,280
Speaker 3: You in on that?

2932
02:37:39,000 --> 02:37:39,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Thailand.

2933
02:37:39,879 --> 02:37:42,200
Speaker 3: I watched the first I watched the first episode of it,

2934
02:37:42,360 --> 02:37:45,880
Speaker 3: and like I loved the first season of White Lotus.

2935
02:37:46,040 --> 02:37:47,920
Speaker 3: I don't know that this was a show meant to

2936
02:37:48,000 --> 02:37:50,160
Speaker 3: go a bunch of years. Like one of the things

2937
02:37:50,760 --> 02:37:53,920
Speaker 3: I'll always respect about a show like Succession. Is that

2938
02:37:54,400 --> 02:37:56,640
Speaker 3: Succession knew like, hey, this is the right spot to

2939
02:37:56,760 --> 02:37:59,840
Speaker 3: end it, you know, So I think I don't know.

2940
02:38:00,040 --> 02:38:02,160
Speaker 3: I watched I watched episode one of White Lotus and

2941
02:38:02,160 --> 02:38:04,320
Speaker 3: I was like, let's see where it goes, you know.

2942
02:38:04,440 --> 02:38:07,040
Speaker 3: But that's kind of how I felt about the end

2943
02:38:07,080 --> 02:38:08,039
Speaker 3: of the last season too.

2944
02:38:08,160 --> 02:38:15,240
Speaker 2: So and then there's another one on Netflix and this

2945
02:38:15,440 --> 02:38:22,840
Speaker 2: is called Zero Day. Thrilling and terrifying limited series follows

2946
02:38:23,080 --> 02:38:27,840
Speaker 2: a highly respected former US president, Robert Demiro, as he

2947
02:38:28,040 --> 02:38:33,800
Speaker 2: leads the investigation into a nationwide cyber attack while battling.

2948
02:38:33,480 --> 02:38:34,400
Speaker 1: His own demons.

2949
02:38:35,520 --> 02:38:37,360
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that sounds amazing.

2950
02:38:38,240 --> 02:38:41,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Zero Day. Really good cast.

2951
02:38:41,640 --> 02:38:43,520
Speaker 3: And again, what is this? This is the other great

2952
02:38:43,560 --> 02:38:45,080
Speaker 3: part of the world. Now we got to ask it

2953
02:38:45,200 --> 02:38:46,120
Speaker 3: and what's it going to be on?

2954
02:38:47,680 --> 02:38:48,959
Speaker 1: Right? So this is Netflix?

2955
02:38:49,200 --> 02:38:51,800
Speaker 3: Netflix? Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm in on I'm in on that.

2956
02:38:51,959 --> 02:38:53,920
Speaker 3: Like I don't. I don't watch as much Netflix as

2957
02:38:53,959 --> 02:38:56,280
Speaker 3: most people, but I will. I will search that and

2958
02:38:56,360 --> 02:38:58,120
Speaker 3: add it to my to my watch list.

2959
02:38:58,640 --> 02:38:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2960
02:38:58,920 --> 02:39:00,560
Speaker 2: So there you go, a couple of couple of things

2961
02:39:00,600 --> 02:39:04,320
Speaker 2: that get us through the dark days until the tournament.

2962
02:39:06,920 --> 02:39:09,880
Speaker 2: That's where we're at well. That'll do it for us.

2963
02:39:10,360 --> 02:39:13,320
Speaker 2: Thanks to Money, Mark and Brie. We appreciate love you

2964
02:39:13,400 --> 02:39:14,280
Speaker 2: guys have a great week.