Speaker 1: Warning today's episode. Today's spoilers for the first two episodes
Speaker 1: the really fun episodes of Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider Man
Speaker 1: on Disney Pluce. My name is Jason ECCEPSI.
Speaker 2: And I am your Friendly Neighborhood Rosie Knight and.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to x ray Vision, the podcast we dive
Speaker 1: deep an your favorite Joe's movies, comins, and pop culture gobbyras,
Speaker 1: where we're bringing you three episodes every single week.
Speaker 3: In today's episode, Spider Man, Spider Man, Cam marvel Land
Speaker 3: and Animated Spider Man. Yes he swings from a web,
Speaker 3: but he doesn't sound like a kid. He's got a
Speaker 3: mature accent. Look out because we are reviewing Your Friendly
Speaker 3: Neighborhood Spider Man.
Speaker 2: First two episodes are on Disney Pluse. Right now, let's
Speaker 2: go to the air lock.
Speaker 1: Okay, as we step out of the air lock, let's
Speaker 1: first do a spoiler free review of the first two
Speaker 1: episodes of Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider Man, in which we
Speaker 1: get an alternate origin story for Spider Man, as well
Speaker 1: as some reimaginings. If you're a Spider Man, you know,
Speaker 1: a longtime Spider person spider fan, then you're gonna see
Speaker 1: some reimaginings of Spider Man's friend group, the people around him,
Speaker 1: the way he gets his powers, and also reimagining of
Speaker 1: his rogues gallery. Quick top level thoughts, this is fun.
Speaker 1: I think you and I both have concerns like.
Speaker 2: I had it. We didn't know, we didn't know where
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 3: What if did not hit for us in that way,
Speaker 3: And it's obviously hard to top anything or even come
Speaker 3: close to X Men ninety seven. But I was just
Speaker 3: really pleasantly surprised by these first two episodes, which I
Speaker 3: probably shouldn't have been because Trummel, who is the showrunner,
Speaker 3: he is an incredible creator. He's a big hand in
Speaker 3: Craig of the Creek, which just finished, and I.
Speaker 2: Just should have not.
Speaker 3: I probably should have known that this was going to
Speaker 3: be targeted directly at me because I love a show
Speaker 3: with a big group of kids, and all the kids
Speaker 3: are going through it and they're living their life and
Speaker 3: you just want to protect them. And also I was
Speaker 3: kind of blown away by the breadth of characters that
Speaker 3: we meet in the first There's.
Speaker 1: So many, I mean many, so many right away.
Speaker 3: But you know, you know what, it kind of reminded
Speaker 3: me of is like the old Spider Man cartoons that
Speaker 3: some of which are on Disney.
Speaker 1: Plus we still.
Speaker 2: Don't have it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the eighties one, especially when you go back and
Speaker 3: watch those as an adult, you are like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: every famous Marvel character is in these episodes.
Speaker 2: Like you go back and there's.
Speaker 3: Lizards there, and you know some random, like deep cut
Speaker 3: kind of female character they created just for the show
Speaker 3: who went on to be part of the Marble universe.
Speaker 3: Like when you go back and watch them, that eighties
Speaker 3: ninety Spider Man show, you can really watch every single
Speaker 3: major arc happen in it, and it's very direct, and
Speaker 3: it's very much like a sort of adventure of the
Speaker 3: week occasional kind of crossover plot lines. But this reminded
Speaker 3: me of that because family characters, though are but it
Speaker 3: felt more like contemporary animation, where there is a direct
Speaker 3: plot that is going through this show. Every single episode
Speaker 3: is gonna connect.
Speaker 1: Yes, and visa vis animation. I was a little bit.
Speaker 1: It took me a little bit of episode one to
Speaker 1: kind of get used to it. I was I was like, God,
Speaker 1: am I watching Archer?
Speaker 2: But the action is line weight definitely screamed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the action is one reethera line weight is quite
Speaker 1: very bold. A lot of contrasts.
Speaker 2: Very critic say, I.
Speaker 3: Was feeling like, allegedly they were trying to go for
Speaker 3: that Dickco kind of jomre me a senior look, and
Speaker 3: I do feel like that. But for me those it's
Speaker 3: got that samny crispness, that kind of throw back to
Speaker 3: the gold Yeah, I'm the same, you know what, I
Speaker 3: think this most the first episode watching it, the reaction
Speaker 3: I had that I think is most akin to another
Speaker 3: show that we love, is like, you know, the first
Speaker 3: time you watch like Rebels and you were like, this
Speaker 3: animation style is just I don't get it.
Speaker 2: I'm old.
Speaker 3: This is made for kids who are so much younger
Speaker 3: than me. But once you get into the characters, you
Speaker 3: begin to love it. You love the character designs. This
Speaker 3: happened to me very quickly in this show, because Yeah,
Speaker 3: there are just certain choices they make that we'll get
Speaker 3: into in our recaps that I feel like, just scream like,
Speaker 3: we love comic books, we care about comic books, and
Speaker 3: we want to make a great comic book TV show
Speaker 3: for kids, and I think that's so vital and needed,
Speaker 3: and I love you know, I'll talk about this more.
Speaker 3: But I think, you know, all of us come into
Speaker 3: a show like this and we think, oh, well, what
Speaker 3: about the Mars Morales Spider Verse. That's groundbreaking, that's a
Speaker 3: whole different space, like what can Disney do? And I
Speaker 3: think that the biggest impact that Spider Use had on
Speaker 3: this is actually not the animation, but the fact that
Speaker 3: now because of Spider Verse, because of Miles, you have
Speaker 3: to realistically render New York City and what it's actually like.
Speaker 3: And this to me feels like this diverse, melting pot,
Speaker 3: like gorgeous, kind of probably way more close to what
Speaker 3: kids actually at school go through nowadays. And yeah, I
Speaker 3: think Spider Verse is like so impactful on so many levels,
Speaker 3: and it kind of moved me that that was the
Speaker 3: big thing. Also, we do get a funny new reimagining
Speaker 3: of Peter's origin that's definitely in that MCU space of
Speaker 3: always behind Miles, Like whatever happens to Miles when Peter
Speaker 3: starts doing something with Disney, it's probably Miles influenced.
Speaker 1: Well, we will talk about all of that in detail
Speaker 1: as we move into our spoiler filled review.
Speaker 2: Spoiler filed, so the spoiler alarm is going off, guys.
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Speaker 1: Episode one, Your Friendly Neighborhood spider Man, directed by Mels Wire,
Speaker 1: written by showrunner Shift Frommel we meet the teenage Peter Parker,
Speaker 1: and he's everything that you think about when you think
Speaker 1: about Peter Parker. He is very smart, he's late for
Speaker 1: school as he always is.
Speaker 2: Awkward, he's a little awkward. He lives, still have out May.
Speaker 1: We've got hot name makes her animation debut, but I
Speaker 1: love it. Uncle Ben is already dead in an event
Speaker 1: that seems to be not connected to Spider Man's evolution
Speaker 1: in terms of his crime fighting philosophy. One thing I
Speaker 1: want to say about about Hudson Thames. He does the voice.
Speaker 1: He does have a deep, kind of like a scratchy voice.
Speaker 1: We need to normalize Spider Man Peter Parker having a
Speaker 1: very very like thick New York accent. Yes, I don't
Speaker 1: understand why he doesn't sound like a fucking beastie boy
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 2: Exactly from Queen's Let's let him let him.
Speaker 1: Happy, let him the accent, let him sound like one
Speaker 1: of the Ramones.
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm thinking. One of these days we need
Speaker 1: to do a accent correct spider Man.
Speaker 2: I'm very excited for that day. I think it's gonna come.
Speaker 1: So it is Peter's first day of school and he's late.
Speaker 1: He goes to Midtown High which is a renowned school
Speaker 1: for its science program, notably robotics, which Peter really wants
Speaker 1: to get into. As he walks up to school, May
Speaker 1: drives him in a portal, A Strange portal opens up.
Speaker 1: Doctor Strange the school and a venomized like alien that
Speaker 1: looks like a brood maybe alien.
Speaker 3: Yeah, something outrageous, huge kind of collar, but it has
Speaker 3: and it has ant facial.
Speaker 1: Features, ant face.
Speaker 4: Right, it looks.
Speaker 1: Like a Starship Trooper's drone insect that has been venomized.
Speaker 1: Doctor Strange begins fighting this thing, although he realizes that,
Speaker 1: wait a second, I brought it to the wrong He's
Speaker 1: probably meaning to bring it to some like limbo empty
Speaker 1: world where there's nothing, but he accidentally brought it to
Speaker 1: whatever this reality is.
Speaker 3: We do get a great moment here which we've this
Speaker 3: is the kind of thing that nobody else cares about
Speaker 3: apart from people like me and Jason, And we've talked
Speaker 3: about this a lot, and it's one of my main
Speaker 3: issues with Doctor Stranger the MCU. Finally here he gets
Speaker 3: his leper prink gloves, his famous lepper prink gloves, and
Speaker 3: they're right there there in your face.
Speaker 2: And I also have to say, Dick co vibes big.
Speaker 3: I have to say as well, once the action started
Speaker 3: and we saw how they animated Doctor Strange, you saw
Speaker 3: how they animated the cape. I love the sentient cape
Speaker 3: in the mc I think it's so great. Once that happened,
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, this is a show. I was like,
Speaker 3: the way that they bring to life action in this
Speaker 3: show is really really great, especially when there's so much
Speaker 3: emotional teenage kind of school drama to go along with it.
Speaker 2: But this scene really sold me.
Speaker 3: I would love to see more of Doctor Strange in
Speaker 3: this animation style.
Speaker 1: So the school gets like completely wrecked, and it's a
Speaker 1: wonder that there aren't twenty or thirty fatalities.
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: The fight the tea Strange and the and the symbiote, you.
Speaker 2: Know, like smashing every months.
Speaker 1: Peter shows his heroism by distracting the symbioda as it's
Speaker 1: about to attack a student, allowing Strange to come in
Speaker 1: and lasso the thing back through the portal and they're gone,
Speaker 1: but a spider from that dimension powered up on something
Speaker 1: symbio juice who knows though some kind of radiation that
Speaker 1: pervades whatever reality came from we don't know, remains behind
Speaker 1: it drops on this on Peter's collar and it bites
Speaker 1: him as he is introducing himself to the student that
Speaker 1: he saved, who is also a freshman who is named
Speaker 1: Nico Minoru. Who's that Rosie.
Speaker 2: Nicko Minor is? Yeah, she's absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 3: Character first made her debut in Brian Cavaorn and Adrian
Speaker 3: Alphone is smash hit like Cult Classic.
Speaker 2: Loved this.
Speaker 3: It was a game changer when this comment came out Runaways,
Speaker 3: which is about a bunch of kids who had to
Speaker 3: become superheroes off of realizing their parents with the villains.
Speaker 2: She is a cool goth.
Speaker 3: She is the child of two superpowered villains calling themselves
Speaker 3: the Pride. It will be very interesting to see if
Speaker 3: we get any Pride action here. I'm guessing not, but
Speaker 3: her parents are in the comics are very powerful wizards.
Speaker 2: Nico is.
Speaker 3: She has in the comics I think called the Staff
Speaker 3: of One, which allows her to bear magic, and I
Speaker 3: will say as well, this is a very comics accurate reimagining,
Speaker 3: like Nico is the cool goth kid, and just like
Speaker 3: the comics, we do learn here that Nico is a
Speaker 3: is definitely queer like like her comic book character. We
Speaker 3: get a little hint of that. So yeah, very excited
Speaker 3: for this. She's one of my favorite characters. I have
Speaker 3: a Nico figurine. I loved Runaways. I thought it was
Speaker 3: very underrated, and the actress who played Lovely Lovely Nico
Speaker 3: in the in the show was called Lyrica A Carno.
Speaker 3: She was so great, and it's Yeah, I'm very interested
Speaker 3: to see I think they're doing something in this show
Speaker 3: that they're very good at at Marvel Studios, where they're
Speaker 3: basically introducing a bunch of side characters in a main
Speaker 3: character series to see who sticks.
Speaker 2: And who people like, and I'm hoping Nkos is one
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 1: Same Peter passes out from the effects of this spider bite,
Speaker 1: and then we had a flash forward during which months
Speaker 1: have passed, and in those months, Peter has grown comfortable
Speaker 1: using his powers. He's swinging around, he's made in a costume,
Speaker 1: he's made the web slingers all homemade, so it looks.
Speaker 2: You know, what it does have that we've never had
Speaker 2: before though.
Speaker 3: It shows where the propulsion of the webs comes from
Speaker 3: because he has like like a scuba tank. It's like
Speaker 3: a scuba tank on his back. And I thought that
Speaker 3: was really cool because I was like, we never get
Speaker 3: to see that. Also, just before we get the flash forward,
Speaker 3: we see the spider from another universe, like Miles's Spider.
Speaker 3: We see it follow a different character get into their bag.
Speaker 3: It's a burgundy bag. They're wearing white and bred trainers.
Speaker 3: I scoured this episode and to find out who that
Speaker 3: could possibly be, and I think my guess is it's
Speaker 3: probably Richie Gilmore, who goes on to become this character
Speaker 3: called Prodigy, who is part of this group called the Slingers.
Speaker 3: We're getting a lot of characters there, so it's going
Speaker 3: to be interesting how that plays out.
Speaker 2: Other option, of course, is Miles.
Speaker 3: But I don't I've only watched the episodes we're talking about,
Speaker 3: so I don't want to jinx it by wishing for Miles.
Speaker 3: I think that's probably gonna be a live action thing.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I thought that was really interesting, and I
Speaker 3: also I like a flash forward man, Like if you
Speaker 3: can do it well. I actually want to see Peter
Speaker 3: already knowing his powers. We've seen that origin. We don't
Speaker 3: need to see him learning how to be Spider Man.
Speaker 3: I want to see him in those early days. And
Speaker 3: this was originally going to be called Spider Man Freshman Year,
Speaker 3: and I think that it's doing a great job of
Speaker 3: showcasing that part of his journey, Like how do you
Speaker 3: balance high school and being a superhero when nobody knows
Speaker 3: it's tough.
Speaker 1: On the way to school, Peter in full costume ens
Speaker 1: are stopping a mugging from a trio of muggers who
Speaker 1: are live streaming the whole thing, which seems like a
Speaker 1: great way to really get prosecuted, Like no questions.
Speaker 2: Give yourself, don't video yourself, guys.
Speaker 3: Also, I just need to say Jays said, what is
Speaker 3: the likelihood that when he stopped those muggers, one of
Speaker 3: which he's Spider webbed a bridge and like smashed the
Speaker 3: kid into the head.
Speaker 1: He killed him out of like a building and smashed
Speaker 1: into the kid's head, that kid is like dead.
Speaker 2: He's dead.
Speaker 3: And also I do love that they use a lot
Speaker 3: of like social media kind of stuff here that they
Speaker 3: build in like the live streams, you see the comments
Speaker 3: people being like bean here since day one, or this
Speaker 3: is a new loaf for the account. And we also
Speaker 3: get this funny recurring threadhair of people just Dragon Spider Man's.
Speaker 2: Costume like online that always like who is this guy?
Speaker 2: It looks like shit, Like what's going on?
Speaker 1: Well, the kid that Peter saves is Harry osbo boo,
Speaker 1: and Peter doesn't realize that he just Harry's like, I
Speaker 1: don't have any money, but is there anything I can do?
Speaker 1: And Spidery's like, I'm good, but he doesn't realize that
Speaker 1: Harry is like super rich, so he should have taken.
Speaker 3: Super cool, like kind of, He's got a gorgeous, nice
Speaker 3: little styly haircut, he's wearing all green. They're really leaning
Speaker 3: into the possibilities of his future. But I really like
Speaker 3: this interaction. I wanted them to be friends.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Later at school, Peter and Nico run into Pearl, who
Speaker 1: was Peter's babysitter when he was four. She's like three
Speaker 1: years older, so she's a junior while he is a freshman.
Speaker 1: Peter clearly has a crush on her and has for
Speaker 1: a long time, and Nico roasts him about it. And
Speaker 1: it's like you need to ask her out. Who is
Speaker 1: Pearl Gone?
Speaker 3: Okay, So so Paul Panang is an established character within
Speaker 3: the Marvel universe.
Speaker 2: She is her alter ego is called Wave.
Speaker 3: And I really like the way they brought Pearl to
Speaker 3: life Hit because the creator Great Pact the creator of Wave.
Speaker 3: And also I will say, like she is really a
Speaker 3: She was in an age of Atlas, so she was made
Speaker 3: to be a different kind of you know, Asian American
Speaker 3: representation in the show.
Speaker 2: And I just think she's so cool.
Speaker 3: And one of the coolest things about this design is
Speaker 3: they were not afraid to make Pearl big like Waves.
Speaker 3: Hence she's muscles, She's super badass, and I love how
Speaker 3: in the show they were not afraid to do that,
Speaker 3: like she's huge, and yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Think this is great. Is she gonna get her powers?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think what we're seeing here is the setup for
Speaker 3: potential characters that you might see in other projects. I
Speaker 3: don't know whether in ten episodes you're going to get
Speaker 3: to see Pearl get her powers, but it is notable
Speaker 3: to mention that she is here, and I would love
Speaker 3: to see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, who doesn't love Greg Park. He's a genius.
Speaker 3: He's always making fantastic comics and fantastic creations.
Speaker 1: During school, Peter leaves like makes an excuse to go
Speaker 1: leave and apprehend criminals. When he sees a police chase
Speaker 1: go by the school. He is so like drunk on
Speaker 1: victory and the crowd cheering him. After he apprehends these
Speaker 1: guys that he's like, you know what I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do what Nico said. I'm gonna go ask Pearl out.
Speaker 1: Only problem is Lonnie Lincoln, captain of the football team,
Speaker 1: has gotten there first.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Peter and Lannie end up partnering up in science class.
Speaker 1: Peter wanted to I love, but it didn't happen. And
Speaker 1: guess what, Lincoln's a smart guy. He's much to Peter's
Speaker 1: kind of surprise.
Speaker 3: He was making a lot of assumptions about the black
Speaker 3: you know, captain of the football team not being able
Speaker 3: to keep up in science.
Speaker 2: And he was incorrect.
Speaker 1: He's a very smart kid. Lonnie then tells Peter that
Speaker 1: Pearl is often talking about how smart Peter is and
Speaker 1: kind of against his instincts. Peter discovers it, you know what,
Speaker 1: I really like, Lonnie, I think I we're going to
Speaker 1: be friends Lonnie. Yeah, is a character, So Lonnie is
Speaker 1: a comic book character, and Miles, I think this could
Speaker 1: be a spoiler if you want.
Speaker 3: To put if you want to put the spoiler ear
Speaker 3: muffs on, take out your air pods.
Speaker 2: This could be a spoiler.
Speaker 3: But I also think that what they're doing here is
Speaker 3: a really empathetic version of the character. If it is
Speaker 3: him in the comics Lonnie Lincoln, Alonzo Lincoln, spoiler Illa,
Speaker 3: that's the Spider.
Speaker 2: Man villain Tombstone.
Speaker 3: So so it does seem here that they probably are
Speaker 3: going to set up Lonni for that, especially when him
Speaker 3: and Peter have this interaction and it's very clear that
Speaker 3: Lonnie is kind of like, do you want to hang out?
Speaker 2: Like can I come to your house? And Peter is.
Speaker 3: Still a bit burnt out about pul So then we
Speaker 3: see Lonnie heading home and he takes the subway and
Speaker 3: on the way there, they do a great job of
Speaker 3: establishing that while Lonnie goes to Midtown High his neighborhood
Speaker 3: in Harlem is not being looked out for, like he
Speaker 3: experiences racism on the subway. But what I really thought
Speaker 3: was great about this was that is all outside issues
Speaker 3: that Lonnie is dealing with as part of society. But
Speaker 3: when he gets into that house, Chase and his home
Speaker 3: life and family are great. There were they love him,
Speaker 3: They're so happy to see him, And I just thought
Speaker 3: that was really cool and kind of once again showing
Speaker 3: that this show can do something intricate and interesting without
Speaker 3: falling into like a lot of stereotypes and tropes that
Speaker 3: we've gotten in other shows.
Speaker 2: So I'm already a big Lonnie fan.
Speaker 3: He is my breakout character for this first episode. I
Speaker 3: just thought he was so well drawn and interesting, banging
Speaker 3: character design, such a cool kind of play on the
Speaker 3: general romantic triangles that Peter always gets himself into.
Speaker 2: Here, it's kind of Pearl and Lonnie who both really.
Speaker 3: Like him, and he's kind of the one who's like, oh,
Speaker 3: I wish I was going out with Pearl, but the
Speaker 3: three of them together seem to really get along. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and then you know, we get to this kind of
Speaker 3: final couple of minutes.
Speaker 2: Jason, how does the episode end?
Speaker 1: Well? Spider Man continues, of course to fight crimes, and
Speaker 1: we see a little bit of something I think there's
Speaker 1: really unique to Spider Man, who has like a Matt
Speaker 1: like a huge, massive, one of the biggest rogues galleries
Speaker 1: like in comics, if not the biggest of a major character.
Speaker 1: Like there's probably fifty villains, major and minor villains that
Speaker 1: Spider Man has. And one of the things that I
Speaker 1: think is unique to Spider Man is a lot of
Speaker 1: those villains get redeemed because Spider Man is a good
Speaker 1: guy and end up becoming not heroes, but like anti heroes.
Speaker 1: So like Venom, this has happened to Venom, this has
Speaker 1: happened to Black Cat, on and on and on. You know,
Speaker 1: Harry Osborne is like it goes between good and bad sometimes,
Speaker 1: And so we see here Spider Man has apprehended a thief,
Speaker 1: but rather than turn the thief in, Spider tries to
Speaker 1: convince the pizza shop owner like, hey, let's just like
Speaker 1: let it go because this person obviously feels really really
Speaker 1: bad and they're down on their luck and they just
Speaker 1: did something on the spur of the moment.
Speaker 2: Finally, and not just immediately sending people to the cops,
Speaker 2: as this show does. He does.
Speaker 3: He does have a very Spider Man game tendency here
Speaker 3: where he's always just webbing up randoms and being like, now,
Speaker 3: they're in the incarceration system, and you're like, Peter, imagine
Speaker 3: a bad day, and he did.
Speaker 2: I really loved that interaction.
Speaker 3: And then we get this crazy moment where on the
Speaker 3: way home he finds a free he gets a free
Speaker 3: pizza from the pizza guy, and he finds a DVD player,
Speaker 3: which immediately throws your mind back to the first Spider
Speaker 3: Man movie. We're in the MCU with Tom Hollands. That's
Speaker 3: the night that he goes home and something incredible happens,
Speaker 3: and that happens here, but.
Speaker 2: This is where we learn that we're not in our
Speaker 2: MCU as we know it.
Speaker 1: So there's a really nice car in front of his
Speaker 1: SuperM building, which he takes a selfie with, and when
Speaker 1: he gets inside, he realizes that car belongs to Norman
Speaker 1: don Dun Dun Dun, who in this imagining is a
Speaker 1: black gentleman, which is wonderful because that means he has
Speaker 1: ethnically correct him for the first time ever.
Speaker 2: Because everyone, and this is if you don't know.
Speaker 3: About this, there's a running joke that for some reason,
Speaker 3: they always draw Norman Osborne with waves.
Speaker 2: And everyone's always like, so is Norman Osborne black?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: And I love that here.
Speaker 3: They were like, yes, he is black. He is also
Speaker 3: clearly this universe is Tony Stark. He has Oz Corp.
Speaker 3: He has all that stuff I does.
Speaker 1: Stark is around Jem.
Speaker 2: He's around because because because he has a little Iron
Speaker 2: Man figure.
Speaker 3: But yeah, to see Norman here with the voice by
Speaker 3: the incredibly talented Common Domingo, who's about to be all
Speaker 3: over your screens for Awards season, I just thought this
Speaker 3: was such a cool way to end the episode. Jason,
Speaker 3: what was like your breakout moment from this episode that
Speaker 3: made you want to click and watch the next one?
Speaker 1: I think the Norman Osbourne, the Norman Osborn drop is great,
Speaker 1: just all the characters that they are sprinkling in throughout.
Speaker 1: The addition of Nico was a prize and I really
Speaker 1: enjoyed that. It made me wonder, like, are her parents
Speaker 1: super villains in this telling? And does she not know
Speaker 1: that her parents are like a big time organized crime villains.
Speaker 1: That's a really interesting thing to think about. I really
Speaker 1: liked I really like the way the animation works with
Speaker 1: the action. I will say that I think I don't
Speaker 1: know if this is conscious or not, but it felt
Speaker 1: like some of the choppiness which feels purposeful, feels like
Speaker 1: a callback to the original Amazing Spider Man Spider Man
Speaker 1: and His Amazing Friends eighties cartoon, just something to make
Speaker 1: it feel like there's a through line between those properties,
Speaker 1: and there is a through line in that. One of
Speaker 1: the crazy things about the Spider Man in an Amazing
Speaker 1: Friends cartoon was like, how random the characters they threw
Speaker 1: in with Spider Man are, you know, Like he's partnered
Speaker 1: up with Iceman, who is an X men, Like what
Speaker 1: exactly food they made for the show? And it feels
Speaker 1: incredibly like wait, who, that's so crazy, But it's fun
Speaker 1: to see Spider Man like bounce off these different characters.
Speaker 1: And it's the same thing here where you know, unexpected
Speaker 1: to see Pearl here at the high school, unexpected to
Speaker 1: say Nico, to see Nico here at the high school,
Speaker 1: and it's all of that is just really fun together.
Speaker 1: What about you?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I agree.
Speaker 3: I was definitely emotionally invested, especially when they showed Lonnie's
Speaker 3: walk home and I kind of thought, Okay, well, this
Speaker 3: is going to be realistic to how somebody's experiences living
Speaker 3: in this world, and we're getting to see different aspects
Speaker 3: of New York in the Spider of us. We're getting
Speaker 3: to see different characters. I thought it was very interesting
Speaker 3: that they did hot Aren't May because that was definite
Speaker 3: bait and switch to make you think.
Speaker 2: You were in the MCU.
Speaker 3: Yeah, generally, I just thought the first episode was really fun, enjoyable,
Speaker 3: and definitely hooked me emotionally, which is the most important
Speaker 3: thing for me.
Speaker 2: It's why I love The X Men ninety seven so much.
Speaker 3: Is like I a head about the characters and after
Speaker 3: this episode also half an hour episodes, So this is
Speaker 3: not a twenty two minute show. It's not an eleven
Speaker 3: minute show old school style. This is a half an
Speaker 3: hour show, and I think I think that adds to
Speaker 3: it too.
Speaker 1: Up next episode two after a word from us, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we're at okay. Episode two of Your Friendly Neighborhood
Speaker 1: Spidern directed by Eliza Singer, written by Charlie Nooner. Peter
Speaker 1: of course knows who Norman is. He's really famous, like
Speaker 1: a CEO science entrepreneur, the leader and founder of oz Korp,
Speaker 1: and Peter is stoked that this guy is here in
Speaker 1: his apartment. Now, Peter, you know, wants to keep up
Speaker 1: up his crime fighting schedule, despite the fact that he
Speaker 1: has now been offered a position on Oscorp as as
Speaker 1: an intern and you know, it turns out that commuting
Speaker 1: to school as Spider Man is probably a lot faster
Speaker 1: than master transit at school, I like Peter to the
Speaker 1: football team, and he makes Peter hold the trophy, like
Speaker 1: the high school championship trophy for good luck. They go
Speaker 1: to the game. Nico roast Peter for like going corporate
Speaker 1: and working for Oscorp, and she's like, if you if
Speaker 1: you end up working for rocks On, then I'm going
Speaker 1: to be actually really important.
Speaker 3: Recognize that name and moment because it feels like they're
Speaker 3: going to be a big player in this series.
Speaker 1: Pearl comes by to congratulate Peter on this internship, which
Speaker 1: is obviously a big deal, and then meanwhile on the field,
Speaker 1: the Midtown Ravens are absolutely balling. Peter can't stay for
Speaker 1: the game though he has to go to his internship.
Speaker 1: He is late for it. He gets there, you know,
Speaker 1: he gets killed by the elevator doors. And then he
Speaker 1: meets the fellow in turns in the program there is
Speaker 1: Amadeus Chow New York City.
Speaker 2: Who he's gonna be the Hawk.
Speaker 1: Probably the smartest guy in this building and a gene
Speaker 1: from Lyon tell Us about these characters.
Speaker 3: Okay, so Asha Asha is a real relatively recent creation.
Speaker 2: She was actually introduced in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 3: She was the Wakandan emissary during the Contest of Champions. Essentially,
Speaker 3: she was chosen as one of three students from Wakanda
Speaker 3: and the Wakanan School for Alternative Studies to basically kind
Speaker 3: of spread the tech of Wakanda's help save the world
Speaker 3: from fanos in the comics, and we see her here
Speaker 3: now in this stow She was Actually this was a
Speaker 3: really interesting one because I always watched the creator credit
Speaker 3: thanks at the end, and Matt Kin was on for this,
Speaker 3: and it is because Matt Kin, in his rare Marvel
Speaker 3: work donning indie cartoonist and Brier, he worked with the
Speaker 3: Stephen Sanders, the artist to create this story and this character.
Speaker 2: So that's really cool.
Speaker 3: Jane is a really interesting one because that's another like
Speaker 3: super super deep cut character from the Marvel universe. There's
Speaker 3: not really a lot kind of she doesn't have a
Speaker 3: lot of canon, but her code name is Finesse and
Speaker 3: she was created by Christos Gage and Mike McCone.
Speaker 2: It's very interesting.
Speaker 3: She's essentially kind of like a young task Master, and
Speaker 3: in the comics you wonder is her father task Master,
Speaker 3: but it's not clear. She graduated MIT at fourteen in
Speaker 3: the comics and was also an Olympic athlete. This is
Speaker 3: another one of those weird comics. I wasn't expecting them
Speaker 3: to pull through Avengers Academy. That's such a great story.
Speaker 3: Jean plays a long role in that.
Speaker 2: I love that book.
Speaker 3: And of course Amadeus Cho who you probably know about,
Speaker 3: who is And again I would they put your is
Speaker 3: over your it be hands over you is if you
Speaker 3: don't want to hear a spoiler, because this feels like
Speaker 3: it's coming, the other one thinks. So I don't think
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily know in this store, in this show,
Speaker 3: but I will say I do think that Amadaeus's if
Speaker 3: he's not one of their top tier guys right now,
Speaker 3: as a potential for a young Avengers or a new era,
Speaker 3: I think they're making mistakes because I love this character.
Speaker 3: He was created a Greg park and This and a
Speaker 3: Canadian artist called Takashi mi Azawa, and first peted in an
Speaker 3: Amazing Fantasy volume two fifteen, same place as Spider Man.
Speaker 3: First appeared in his Amazing Fantasy volume one, and he's
Speaker 3: a Korean American kid, absolute genius, and he succeeded Bruce
Speaker 3: Banner to become the Hulk in the comics.
Speaker 2: I don't think we're going to see him hulking out here.
Speaker 3: But I don't think it was an accident that they
Speaker 3: introduced these characters, who are all young superhero characters who
Speaker 3: do or could have powers.
Speaker 1: Well, it's an incredible group. Their manager, however, is not
Speaker 1: necessarily an incredible guy. That is doctor Whitman, who is
Speaker 1: kind of very mean, miserly, kind of older gentleman who
Speaker 1: is brilliant, is in his own right. I think we
Speaker 1: will discover eventually.
Speaker 3: I was going to say, this feels like a definitely
Speaker 3: probable spoiler. If you want to such the name Whitman
Speaker 3: w I T. T. M an and novel, you may
Speaker 3: find out who this character is. But I agree with you, Jason,
Speaker 3: this is I need tond out because it's probably a spoiler.
Speaker 1: Uh. Peter is like, hey, when Norman came to my apartment,
Speaker 1: he said to come see him as soon as I
Speaker 1: got in the building, and it was like yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever,
Speaker 1: give me a you're an inn that's not going to happen.
Speaker 1: What is going to happen is we're going to put
Speaker 1: you through your paces right now with the kind of
Speaker 1: a multi field review of your science knowledge, and that
Speaker 1: will dictate what part of the company you go to.
Speaker 1: Peter of course wants robotics, but that goes to Amideis
Speaker 1: because Amideus is probably like a top three smartest.
Speaker 2: He's already probably played like five thousand drones. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's his genius.
Speaker 1: Peter goes to work with Carla Conners, who is not
Speaker 1: yet the Lizard, but clearly they're setting it up. She
Speaker 1: is working on a self sustaining power source like the
Speaker 1: Stark arc reactor, but not that because it's trademark, so
Speaker 1: they have to copy it and not make it seem
Speaker 1: like they're copying it. Nico calls Peter during the This
Speaker 1: Is after the game. She's like, Ravens won. You've been
Speaker 1: invited and I've been invited to the football team party
Speaker 1: now because it seems like everybody is saying that you
Speaker 1: had something to do with the success because you touched
Speaker 1: the trophy, So you have to touch kiss the trophy
Speaker 1: and you're gonna touch.
Speaker 2: It every single time.
Speaker 1: Well, Peter Uh, you know, is busy with his internship.
Speaker 1: He's commiserating with his new coworkers when he sees a
Speaker 1: news report about an arson. So Peter makes an excuse,
Speaker 1: which all of his new colleagues think is really weird.
Speaker 2: But he he doesn't do it in a very suave way.
Speaker 2: It's very awkward. Peter Parker eyes.
Speaker 1: Himself, so he changes in the hallway like in a stairwell,
Speaker 1: and then goes over swings over to this building to
Speaker 1: see what's going on at the burning building. He meets
Speaker 1: the arsonist, confronts the arsonist. Who is this dude with
Speaker 1: like a helmet and two flamethrowers on his hands, who
Speaker 1: you think is Butane?
Speaker 2: So I did.
Speaker 3: I will say it is, but I wasn't sure. But
Speaker 3: in the credits they credit him as Buttane. If you
Speaker 3: have never heard that character, don't worry about it. He's
Speaker 3: like a Marvel British character from Excalibur issue sixty four,
Speaker 3: created by the legendary Alan Davis, and he is essentially
Speaker 3: in that he's more of a magical fire character like
Speaker 3: Johnny Storm. He sets on fire, but he was thin.
Speaker 3: He's essentially yeah, a mutant, and also he was very
Speaker 3: interestingly was tracked down by the government and kind of
Speaker 3: tried to help start a superpowered army. I think they
Speaker 3: just wanted to do something that was a little bit
Speaker 3: like different. Hered The character is really really cool and
Speaker 3: as you will notice, his armor is kind of branded
Speaker 3: with some logo, but it's unclear like if we know
Speaker 3: where that's.
Speaker 1: From, right, the flamethrower stuff, he didn't clearly, it's pretty
Speaker 1: clear that he didn't make this gears somebody someone else
Speaker 1: teck yeah. So Peter fights this guy and the fight
Speaker 1: spreads to a nearby pet store, and Peter has the
Speaker 1: same with the animals by fighting.
Speaker 3: That's my favorite part of this episode is he's like
Speaker 3: swinging around with a cool gi yeah and that, and
Speaker 3: he's like swinging the jubbles out of the way like
Speaker 3: a really great ground level supera stuff.
Speaker 1: So Peter extinguishes the flames with aquarium water, then saves
Speaker 1: the fish, and then knocks the guy out, and then
Speaker 1: happens to notice that on the flamethrowers there is that
Speaker 1: little logo. It's like an eight that you.
Speaker 2: Mentioned yeah and infinity sign and a.
Speaker 1: Yeah sign something like that. Peter is then comes a
Speaker 1: realization that he needs to get back to work, like
Speaker 1: right now. He rushes back to Oscorp. Whitman is super
Speaker 1: fucking mad because Peter was late.
Speaker 2: Not for this man is this man has never been for.
Speaker 1: Any other possible reason, but because Peter was, like.
Speaker 2: Definitely just because he was late.
Speaker 1: And Peter gets called to Norman's office. Everybody's like, ooh,
Speaker 1: you're getting fired.
Speaker 2: You're in trouble.
Speaker 1: Is at the football party wondering where Peter is at.
Speaker 1: Peter gets to Norman's office, he begs for his job.
Speaker 1: But that is not what this meeting is about. This
Speaker 1: meeting is about the fact that as Norman turns around
Speaker 1: his laptop, he knows that Peter Parker Spider Man because
Speaker 1: he watched him get changed the Spider Man costume on
Speaker 1: the security cameras.
Speaker 2: Why did Peter do?
Speaker 3: I was crying one bold to just change your clothes
Speaker 3: in a static dude, Like just go to somewhere, go
Speaker 3: to a public moth room or something, or a telephone box.
Speaker 2: We have a superman passion. Don't do it and you'll
Speaker 2: the boss is building, He's gonna know it's you.
Speaker 3: What a great cliffhanger the first two episodes, that's not
Speaker 3: good Cliffhangers and Jason, what do you think it means
Speaker 3: that Norman knows Peter is Spider Man this early? Where
Speaker 3: do you see that going from now, Well.
Speaker 1: You mentioned it. I think that they're gonna use him
Speaker 1: as as the kind of role that Stark plays for
Speaker 1: Peter in some of the more recent more recent but
Speaker 1: like in the last twenty years Tony and Peter twenty
Speaker 1: five years of comics history, Tony and Peter have become closer,
Speaker 1: like they work closely together to the point that Stark
Speaker 1: is outfitting Peter with gear. And I think that's where
Speaker 1: we're going to go here, is that Norman is going
Speaker 1: to be tremendously excited by this and tremendously excited by
Speaker 1: the talent and the genius that is Peter, you know,
Speaker 1: like coming up with that web formula all on his own,
Speaker 1: all the gear that he did just out of his house,
Speaker 1: and he's going to be looking to gear him up,
Speaker 1: which is something that he was doing in comics anyway,
Speaker 1: He's going to be looking, you know, as CORP does do,
Speaker 1: like Stark, a lot of like military contracting work and
Speaker 1: weapons work and armor work, defense work, and I think
Speaker 1: he'll look at this as a potential proving ground for
Speaker 1: some of his big ideas. What do you think?
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I totally agree with that. I feel like
Speaker 3: this show is specifically playing on what I love about comics,
Speaker 3: which is you have a situation where Norman Osborne is
Speaker 3: a villain, but he is also an incredibly benevolent man
Speaker 3: at times. And I think the fact that we get
Speaker 3: the kind of maybe he's going to play that Tony
Speaker 3: Stark role is very interesting to me and also potentially
Speaker 3: pre heartbreaking because I will not want to see his
Speaker 3: fall from grace, you know, which will inevitably happen. So
Speaker 3: I thought that was a really cool ending. I'm very
Speaker 3: excited to see where it goes. And the other thing
Speaker 3: I would say that I'm interested to get your thoughts
Speaker 3: on Jason is Spider Man is legendary for having that
Speaker 3: catchy theme tune. It's been played by the Ramones, It's
Speaker 3: been you know, interpolated, it's been changed, it's been mixed up,
Speaker 3: it's been remixed, and here we get a new version
Speaker 3: of it Neighbor Like Me, which is by the Math Club,
Speaker 3: Relay and Mellow Makes Music.
Speaker 2: And I have to say I was very into it.
Speaker 3: You get that classic Spider Man kind of song, and
Speaker 3: then it turns into this more this like rap track
Speaker 3: about rapping about what Spider Man does, which I love.
Speaker 3: I love like a rap credits theme that just tells
Speaker 3: you what the characters do. They used to have them
Speaker 3: in like the Adams family in Casper of all things.
Speaker 2: So that was fun for me. What do you think
Speaker 2: about this new the New Spider Man.
Speaker 1: Love, because that's a big part. I really enjoyed it,
Speaker 1: and I think to your point there is the Spider
Speaker 1: Man video games were important because they kind of were
Speaker 1: a place to re engage with the things that really
Speaker 1: are exciting about Spider Man, his relationship to the city,
Speaker 1: the way the city is part of him, his youth,
Speaker 1: and all of those things come together in the in
Speaker 1: the details of this show, whether it's the friend group
Speaker 1: that they've picked for him, the way they depict the lives,
Speaker 1: like the private lines, which comes in more as you go,
Speaker 1: and I've only seen episode three, but that comes in
Speaker 1: more and more and feels very lived in the way
Speaker 1: they've depicted Lonnie. The choice of music, I think is
Speaker 1: one of those things, and it's great, It's really it's
Speaker 1: really fun, you know, once I got used to the
Speaker 1: animation style, I was I was locked in.
Speaker 3: I think they're yeah, I did look in it's not
Speaker 3: second screen watching.
Speaker 1: There are so many easter eggs, like in when he
Speaker 1: goes to Lannie's apartment, and when we go to Lonnie's apartment,
Speaker 1: we see, you know, what Lonnie's home life is like.
Speaker 1: And then you see on a end table there's a
Speaker 1: daily bugle with a picture from Spider Man saving Harry Osbourne.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, and yeah, that is it. That is, you know,
Speaker 1: a direct reimagining of Amazing of Spider Man's debut story.
Speaker 1: And he's got the guy under his arm, like from
Speaker 1: that it Amazing Tales fifteen.
Speaker 2: Or Amazing Amazing Fantasy fifty.
Speaker 1: Amazing Fantasy fifteen. So it's just so sick. It's sprinkled
Speaker 1: through the tale.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of comic books is so is so
Speaker 3: so clear here, Okay, Jason, So the way this show
Speaker 3: is going to get released is going to be we
Speaker 3: get the first two episodes Wednesday, twenty ninth.
Speaker 2: That's what we're talking about.
Speaker 3: Hope you guys watch them on Wednesday February fifth. We'll
Speaker 3: get three, four and five on Wednesday February twelfth, we'll
Speaker 3: get six, seven, eight, and on Web Wednesday, February nineteenth,
Speaker 3: we'll get nine ten. How do you feel about that
Speaker 3: double kind of triple schedule. It's a little bit different
Speaker 3: for Disney. I'm glad they're doing weekly because I think
Speaker 3: there's stuff to talk about hair like X Men.
Speaker 1: It's interesting. I think that clearly these are arcs that
Speaker 1: you know, like the episode's strategy is, these are the
Speaker 1: chapters of the story. So I think one and two
Speaker 1: there's a clear cliffhanger. How they feels like a new Yeah,
Speaker 1: it feels like when we get to three, this is
Speaker 1: a new part of the story. And I think that
Speaker 1: is what they are kind of structuring around, and we'll
Speaker 1: see how it goes. I think it's pretty smart if
Speaker 1: it if it works.
Speaker 3: If it's character, if it's like comic book arcs, like
Speaker 3: different little stories.
Speaker 2: I love that take. That's really smart, Jason.
Speaker 3: And also, finally, if you could, like, what's your big dream,
Speaker 3: wild character or moment that you hope to see in
Speaker 3: the ten episodes in this style or that speaks to
Speaker 3: you in this kind of storytelling.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Gosh, that's a good question. I guess
Speaker 1: we would I would love to know how active the
Speaker 1: other superheroes in the world are. I guess like that Strange. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they didn't know Doctor Strange. He's a wandom wizard guy.
Speaker 1: He might be just like so low key that you know,
Speaker 1: you never hear from him because he's like down in
Speaker 1: Greenwich Village. I'm just doing ship like in other realms.
Speaker 1: But I would love to know if we're gonna get
Speaker 1: any similar cameos to the Doctor Strange cameo. And then
Speaker 1: I would love to know if any of like if
Speaker 1: Nico or Pearl or any of the other Friend group,
Speaker 1: if their comic book alter egos start looking like they're
Speaker 1: going to be part of the story. I think that's
Speaker 1: what's going to be interesting to me.
Speaker 2: What about you, Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3: I would love to see Paul and Nico kind of
Speaker 3: help Peeter out in the late episodes. Maybe in their
Speaker 3: comic book guys is, maybe not. I'm very pre heartbroken
Speaker 3: by what Lonnie's arc is inevitably going to be, but
Speaker 3: I am still excited to see where that goes because
Speaker 3: I think they're doing it in such a thoughtful, interesting way,
Speaker 3: and generally I would just love to see more of
Speaker 3: those cameos, which is something we've not been asking for recently.
Speaker 3: We've been like, hey, if it doesn't make sense, don't
Speaker 3: put them in there.
Speaker 2: But actually, I thought the Doctor Strange one was so cool.
Speaker 2: We get that.
Speaker 3: Image, you know, we know that maybe there are these
Speaker 3: different superheroes out there, So I'm interested to see how
Speaker 3: that goes. And yeah, I just I can't wait to
Speaker 3: watch more of the show. It's really great. I'm loving
Speaker 3: it well.
Speaker 1: Coming on on X ray Vision, we're diving into our
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Speaker 1: burgeoning spy movements by TV is really a thing right now,
Speaker 1: and revisiting the adventures of a certain Peruvian bear. That's
Speaker 1: it for this episode. Thanks for listening.
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