WEBVTT - Elijah Blake

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<v Speaker 1>R and B Money.

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<v Speaker 2>We are.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks, take about the child. We are the authority on

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<v Speaker 1>all things R and B. Ladies and gentlemen. My name

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<v Speaker 1>is Tank, Get down time. This is the R and

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<v Speaker 1>B Money Podcast. How am I talking about the authority?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>On all things who R and B and talent? Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about talent. Tell him tell them what else

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna say? A song? Right? Song writing? Sanging? Sanging? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah? Is your dress twisted? Right? Is your dress

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<v Speaker 1>tis right? What about your pontalonis yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got you got to let the

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<v Speaker 2>joints on, you know what I mean, some of the prens.

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<v Speaker 1>Joints sell velvet be What is this.

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<v Speaker 3>Man out here with my bros?

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<v Speaker 1>Man? Man, listen, we we we had a brief you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a brief moment for b E T. And

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<v Speaker 1>we thank you for you know, stopping by and just

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<v Speaker 1>giving us a little bit of your time. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>He was on the move, shaking hands and kissing babies

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<v Speaker 1>and an honor man placing new records. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. We saw you moving around. People wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you. Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw y'all.

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<v Speaker 4>It came running over bro, like y'all are my favorite,

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<v Speaker 4>like this and maybe like two other ones I don't

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<v Speaker 4>I always was amazed when people watch podcasts.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, y'all could just sit there because I got ADHD.

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<v Speaker 1>And but don't have eighty HDAR. There's no such thing

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<v Speaker 1>as ADHD diagnosed. How you gonna tell him? There is

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<v Speaker 1>no such thing ASHD? He got c D the making

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<v Speaker 1>up ship medicine. Don't take it. You may have focus issues,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, but that can be fixed if you want

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<v Speaker 1>it fixed, fix it right now. But listen. If you

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<v Speaker 1>are okay within your operating system, if it is working

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<v Speaker 1>for you, then there's no need to change. It is

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<v Speaker 1>working for me.

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<v Speaker 4>And this podcast it may be like one other one

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<v Speaker 4>I could sit through. And so when I saw y'all,

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<v Speaker 4>I came running over. It was like, oh, this's a lie.

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<v Speaker 4>I almost knocked Josh Levi over, is it?

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<v Speaker 1>LEVI love.

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<v Speaker 3>Knocked him over to get to y'all.

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<v Speaker 4>Not intentionally, you know, But it's a war room in

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<v Speaker 4>that thing, you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>We I don't even think we were be even paying

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<v Speaker 1>a idea to what was going on. We had no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>We were just was lou Louba was there and they

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<v Speaker 1>was just and they were just coordinating it. And so

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<v Speaker 1>we were just sitting there and people would just come

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<v Speaker 1>in and we just you know, do the do the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And then afterwards he was like, do you know, do

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<v Speaker 1>you have any interviewers today? I was like, Hey, we'd

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<v Speaker 1>about about what fifteen about ten fifties? Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they were like twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight something crazy and it was there were people which

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<v Speaker 2>we found out later couldn't yah, yeah, that couldn't give

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<v Speaker 2>to us. And we had no idea because we kind

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<v Speaker 2>of That's the other thing too, we didn't really look up.

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<v Speaker 1>We just kind of just stayed locked in.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't really walk around much, so we didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>know what was going on as far as the media

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<v Speaker 2>house thing went. And that was our first time doing it,

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<v Speaker 2>so we're just thinking, oh, they just have stuff set

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<v Speaker 2>up for us.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't know that there was like lines for me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because one of the one of the around the whole thing, one.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the ladies from from BT came up to me

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<v Speaker 2>at the at the basketball the next basketball game the

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<v Speaker 2>next day.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, do you realize.

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<v Speaker 2>That people were waiting for you guys to uh to

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<v Speaker 2>interview them?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like hell no.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, it was like, you know, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of with all due respect, it was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of really really dope platforms that were there.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like no. She was like no.

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<v Speaker 2>People were like, okay, yeah, we'll get to them, but

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna stay here and are they almost done so

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<v Speaker 2>you know we can do our R and B money,

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, that's authority.

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<v Speaker 3>For And it was was irritating. Was it was rappers

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<v Speaker 3>in line.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I can't go on to Joe but.

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<v Speaker 1>To Joe, but you can Joe loves.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, somebody came up to me after I got done

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<v Speaker 4>with y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>He was like, Hey, your name is on the whiteboard

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<v Speaker 3>for Joe, but.

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<v Speaker 1>You absolutely Joe.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be feeling the way because R and B. I

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<v Speaker 4>just feel like we get the short end of the stick.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro.

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<v Speaker 3>They sample us for hip hop.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, they mimic us for pop, very true, but then

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<v Speaker 4>they put us down here. But we don't get the opportunities.

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<v Speaker 4>They get all the benefits without the responsibility that we have.

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<v Speaker 4>We got to go to church, we learn how to

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<v Speaker 4>sing in church, We care about chors, we learn about progressions,

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<v Speaker 4>we're doing harmonies and everything, and they get to do

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<v Speaker 4>it bare minimum and get the like.

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<v Speaker 3>You were saying, when you have fifteen hundred dollars in

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<v Speaker 3>your account.

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<v Speaker 4>They get the lives, they get the cars, they get

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<v Speaker 4>to take care of their families are certain time, they

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<v Speaker 4>get the accolades, and they celebrate us in the shadows,

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<v Speaker 4>and that bothers me a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I think for us, and this is my opinion. I

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<v Speaker 2>think for us, it's more so about.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like R and B.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've said this before, we have jazz moments, we

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<v Speaker 2>have this. You know, a lot of people in R

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<v Speaker 2>and B that are really good at it have this elitist,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, vibe about R and B. And they don't

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<v Speaker 2>make it as digestible to the world, and they're not

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<v Speaker 2>willing sometimes to do all of the things. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>as far as making a certain type of record, doing

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<v Speaker 2>certain type of collaborations, you know what I mean, performing

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<v Speaker 2>at you know, different places that will open up, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. As far as how I said,

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<v Speaker 2>as far as them being embraced on a major scale,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. Because the other part is,

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time there hasn't been a great return

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<v Speaker 2>for R and B. Right because it was really expensive

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<v Speaker 2>to make at one point, and then the return on

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't crazy. So a lot of the machines that

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<v Speaker 2>make the rap music, that make the pop music were like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how much. So we had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of know how much since it makes So we had

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of R and B artists that were just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of falling to the backside and instead of pushing

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<v Speaker 2>forward and pushing harder, niggas kind of just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like fell into their space, right And I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>Tank is a testament to all of that, because he

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<v Speaker 2>was receiving a lot of the things that a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of R and B artists get, like, oh, yeah, he's cool,

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<v Speaker 2>you know the quote unquote underrated thing. He's really talented.

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<v Speaker 2>But but but and then me and him had time,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean multiple meetings about like, Okay, how do we

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<v Speaker 2>how do we figure this thing out?

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<v Speaker 3>I saw when the shift happened, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>But there has to be a shift. Yeah, there has

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<v Speaker 2>to be a shift. You have to put yourself on

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<v Speaker 2>different platforms. You have to you gotta go do corporate events,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. You can't sometimes you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>take less. You might be a guy that charges fifty

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred thousand show. But there may be some things

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<v Speaker 2>that you tried at some you know for you know

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<v Speaker 2>that would be greater later for you. Oh, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>take fifteen to night. But there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people that's like, ah my fee and I got But hey,

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<v Speaker 2>that room that you're gonna perform in now has sponsors,

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<v Speaker 2>has brand partnerships. Now you're looking at it from a

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<v Speaker 2>different thing. And I feel like in R and B,

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<v Speaker 2>guys get so caught up guys, And.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually just say, guys, because the girls, well, the

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<v Speaker 1>girls are able to live free. They get into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Where can they live free?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's okay to be emotional as a woman still,

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<v Speaker 1>and women share that, like they share that emotion universally,

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<v Speaker 1>like dudes don't really share a whole lot with dudes

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<v Speaker 1>like they're cool, Like they don't really they don't really

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<v Speaker 1>embrace it or unless it's true gangster shit, then they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be like, Okay, I'm fucking with it. But women have

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<v Speaker 1>always been champions of each other in one way or another,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. He asked you, like, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that's changing? I don't know. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>working for some and not working for others. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think a guy named Bennie Madeenas told me, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to make a big record, you can

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<v Speaker 1>make a big record. So you have all the tools

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<v Speaker 1>to make a big record. You're just making the record

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<v Speaker 1>you want to make. You're just living in the space

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<v Speaker 1>you want to live in. We're all, like he said,

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<v Speaker 1>we all because we do this in a certain way.

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<v Speaker 1>We all turn our backs to the audience on some

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<v Speaker 1>Miles Davis shit and just play our trumpet. We do

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<v Speaker 1>it all the time because because we're fulfilled by by

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<v Speaker 1>honoring the gift at its height, exactly, we are fulfilled.

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<v Speaker 3>No one cares what's the story.

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<v Speaker 1>But at a certain point we gotta we gotta move

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<v Speaker 1>right past that word music and get to the business

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<v Speaker 1>right as I'm making as I'm as I'm venturing into

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<v Speaker 1>music business. How do I sell some fucking records? How

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<v Speaker 1>do I get on mainstream radio? How? Because it's there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's a how. You know that, there's a fucking how.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got the other people in on the fucking platform?

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<v Speaker 3>No you preaching?

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<v Speaker 4>I was in a relationship, man, And then I remember

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<v Speaker 4>one time Sam Smith DMed me and there was a

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<v Speaker 4>song I had. It wasn't like doing well, but it

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<v Speaker 4>was I loved the song and he was like, man,

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<v Speaker 4>ill off.

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<v Speaker 3>This record and I'm listening to it in my guarden.

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<v Speaker 4>And I showed it to her because she loved Sam

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<v Speaker 4>Smith so much. So I'm thinking, like, you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>this is crazy, like at lista and she was like,

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<v Speaker 4>when are you going to get tired of being my

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<v Speaker 4>favorite singer's favorite singer shit and be the world's favorite

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<v Speaker 4>artist and that.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I like that hurt me so bad.

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<v Speaker 4>But I had to realize, like, yeah, like that don't

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<v Speaker 4>matter at all.

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<v Speaker 3>What is the story?

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<v Speaker 4>If eighty thousand records come out of day, why are

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<v Speaker 4>people going to care about me?

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what with this album.

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<v Speaker 4>I just was like I wanted to quit, and I

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<v Speaker 4>was just like, tell your story if it's your last chance,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like when you're about to get fired from

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<v Speaker 4>the job.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like y'all.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, this is what this album was for me, cause

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<v Speaker 4>it's like and I said, you know what, I came

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<v Speaker 4>in with something to prove. I wanted to like do

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<v Speaker 4>the runs and do all these things because I wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to say I could sing, because I felt like we

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<v Speaker 4>were in a climate where nobody was singing. And I

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<v Speaker 4>loved buying your albums. I love buying boys to Men

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<v Speaker 4>as a kid and just hearing it. I have to

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<v Speaker 4>know what the album was about, what the single was.

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<v Speaker 4>I used to buy albums because of the singers.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was like, maybe nobody cares no more.

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<v Speaker 4>So I said, let me challenge myself to just do

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<v Speaker 4>no runs and just do tone and the story and

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<v Speaker 4>every inflection is because of a pain or emotion I'm

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<v Speaker 4>trying to invoke in the listener. And bro, I ain't

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<v Speaker 4>never even gone top one hundred anything, and now today

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<v Speaker 4>we're number two and number three.

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<v Speaker 1>Number you.

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<v Speaker 3>Shot out?

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<v Speaker 1>My god, but you a is it gonna start writing?

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<v Speaker 3>I start plubing. Yeah, that's what. That's what I come back.

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<v Speaker 1>What Yeah, it's it's in listening to it, you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>making your I hear your argument and the whole spill

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<v Speaker 1>that you gave was great. But your album says something different.

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<v Speaker 1>Your album says that you are you are very conscious

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<v Speaker 1>in making a statement, a broader statement. That's what it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like to me, Like it feels like it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like R and B. But it feels like something different

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<v Speaker 1>than you. It feels like something that everybody's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to move to. Everybody's going to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to pick out their favorite melody, everybody's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to digest their favorite hook. And that's what that's

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<v Speaker 1>really what it's all about. We have to we have

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<v Speaker 1>to get out. So we gotta get it out of ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta stop singing in the mirror. We gotta stop,

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<v Speaker 1>and we gotta figure out how what we do can

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<v Speaker 1>affect the When did you first start loving music? When

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<v Speaker 1>it hit you? How can we get to the next

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<v Speaker 1>six year old right, because we got to attract them

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<v Speaker 1>with something. See how Michael Jackson always works, always, Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson always works. My son wasn't around for none of it,

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<v Speaker 1>not even close. Michael had passed, and this little boy

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<v Speaker 1>was it trying in this room with a hat on

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<v Speaker 1>a glove and watching Michael Jackson on his iPad doing

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Jackson moves. Now, ask me how many runs Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson did, not very many.

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<v Speaker 2>He left him from he left him at childhood. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>did you see in the Olympics the sync and ized swimmers, Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>I just saw that this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>They're still performing to Michael Jackson records.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's transcending race culture because that's Olympics.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you say this all the time, and we

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<v Speaker 2>stand on this, Michael Jackson is an R and B singer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I don't care what they know.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's how we got to mix up.

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<v Speaker 4>Because what is pop. Pop is a derivative of popular culture.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course you do anything well enough, it will be popular.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you think, so you have to figure And

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<v Speaker 1>what Michael did was conscious, right, it was deliberate, well studied.

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<v Speaker 1>What is that. I want to be the biggest in

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<v Speaker 1>everything in the world. So I'm gonna rehearse like this,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna sing like this, I'm going to talk like this. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to dress like this. Did it all on purpose?

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<v Speaker 1>We do so much in our feelings mm hm that

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<v Speaker 1>we're so let down because it's our feelings.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Music is almost one of the only things that the

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<v Speaker 2>creator of the music does for themselves. When you're making

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<v Speaker 2>a product, you make products for people, right, I have

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<v Speaker 2>a candle line, now, come on, candle Now, I like

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<v Speaker 2>my candles, but there were I was asking people, what, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know when you buy the candle, you know the weight,

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<v Speaker 2>does it feel more expensive? So I'm like, okay, well

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta I gotta go. I gotta go source out

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<v Speaker 2>marbles the heaviest weight. Oh, I don't like that I

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<v Speaker 2>have to throw my you know, the candle away. I

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<v Speaker 2>would rather, you know, have it as a piece of

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<v Speaker 2>almost a piece of art in the house. So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm paying attention. We don't do that with our music

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<v Speaker 2>though we play niggas music on something, I don't care

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<v Speaker 2>if you like it or not.

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<v Speaker 1>What what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly what we were thinking about when we did

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<v Speaker 3>the vinyl.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, let's make the vinyl translucent red, just

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<v Speaker 4>because I ain't never seen.

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<v Speaker 3>A translucent red before. But I know, like if I

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<v Speaker 3>pulled it.

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<v Speaker 1>Out, wow, you're going to get a reaction.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we sold more vinyls than we did digital already.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to make music collectors are people and ourselves right, like,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna it's your music, but we got it to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we got to get out of the space

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<v Speaker 2>of I love it so I don't care what nobody

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<v Speaker 2>else think. Well, then you're gonna be somewhere complaining about

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<v Speaker 2>nobody supporting it and.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a harsh reality that a lot of people don't

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<v Speaker 3>talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the other side of it. They complain about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't complain about it if you just made it for yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to complain and then I was like me complaining,

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<v Speaker 1>did sell no more records? So you did? You? You

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<v Speaker 1>stopped complaining and just made better records. Was this around,

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<v Speaker 1>please don't go sex life? No? This was no, this

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<v Speaker 1>was this was what now? Whenever? This is how I

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<v Speaker 1>feel kind of space I was. It wasn't it wasn't far.

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<v Speaker 4>Back, so you still felt underappreciated during Like no, I

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<v Speaker 4>just I just I just, for some my reason, felt

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<v Speaker 4>like highlighting the disadvantages of something that I signed up for.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what I signed up for, I knew what

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<v Speaker 1>I knew what I was getting into, and I signed

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<v Speaker 1>up for and I still went in. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>started to complain about it, and this thing callsed me

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<v Speaker 1>like what are you doing? I was like I'm mad,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm man, and he was like who cares who? And

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<v Speaker 1>then first like I said, who are you talking to?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to everybody? Yeah, mockers, And you're really not

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<v Speaker 1>talking to nobody, and you're definitely not talking to anybody

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<v Speaker 1>who understands does matter? Do fucking better? Ye, do better,

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<v Speaker 1>Just do better. This one didn't work, Let's do another one.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the cool thing about where we are now

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<v Speaker 1>is that you can just keep doing them.

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<v Speaker 2>You just keep doing keeping until they like one, until

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<v Speaker 2>they like one, or like two or like ten. But

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<v Speaker 2>the ones that they didn't like, it's not this, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>you on the shelf, no more, Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>This label gave up on you. You can put out

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<v Speaker 1>more music like it.

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<v Speaker 2>She got to it, gotten to it was a nasty girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Right back, better than she will ever right back.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like this, my dad said, music is like

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<v Speaker 4>the music business like slot machines. Do you want to

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<v Speaker 4>be the person who sat who sits down in Vegas,

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<v Speaker 4>puts a quarter in for nine hours and then you

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<v Speaker 4>say it's never gonna happen you get up in somebody,

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<v Speaker 4>or you want to be the person that comes up

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<v Speaker 4>behind you, puts that quarter in and gets the jackpot.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be both every day. I keep going, just keeping listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, those slot machines for a very long time

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<v Speaker 1>at the wind shout out to the wind who well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you to get my Marcus from Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much a nice free rooms. You want to get the

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<v Speaker 1>rooms in the top of suite. You're not that free gamble,

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<v Speaker 1>but whatever, they feel free because you're going at a different.

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<v Speaker 3>Times with the studio inside of it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the pump which shout out to the pal shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to the tour at the pond, the tour at

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<v Speaker 1>the pearl with screen take care of us.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the next one? Were asked him.

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<v Speaker 1>So, so I asked you a question earlier, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>when did you fall in love with music? And you

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<v Speaker 1>said six years old? What was going on at six

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<v Speaker 1>years old? What was being played at six years old?

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<v Speaker 4>So this is the crazy story. This is why my

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<v Speaker 4>face think God is so strong. My mom is a nurse.

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<v Speaker 4>She's from a third world country. We came here from

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<v Speaker 4>the dr when I was like six years old and

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<v Speaker 4>she didn't speak English.

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<v Speaker 3>But she became a.

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<v Speaker 4>Nurse at the Breaker's Hotel, which is like people don't

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<v Speaker 4>know that West Palm at one time like had like

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<v Speaker 4>sixty percent of the world's billionaires like living in West Palm.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 4>And the Breaker's Hotels like where Oprah goes to have

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<v Speaker 4>runs and Trump and all of them go over there.

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<v Speaker 4>So She came from a third world country and was

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<v Speaker 4>immediately exposed to extreme wealth. And one day it was

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<v Speaker 4>taking her child to work day, and she worked for

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<v Speaker 4>this She was a nurse for this old woman who

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<v Speaker 4>traveled the world and loved music. She collected music from

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<v Speaker 4>Ace of Bass to Prince to SWV to the delfonas everything.

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<v Speaker 4>And she brought me to work with her and I

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<v Speaker 4>was like just humming something and she was like you singing,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like, no, but I want to be

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<v Speaker 4>a singer. One day and when she died, in her will,

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<v Speaker 4>she left me her whole music collection. What So as

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<v Speaker 4>a kid, I was immediately exposed to Stevie Wonder where

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<v Speaker 4>everybody else was like listening to, like, you know, don't

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<v Speaker 4>know what, but I wasn't listening to what's on the radio,

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<v Speaker 4>because I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Going through this collection.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just being introduced to American culture. I was

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<v Speaker 4>learning how to speak English. But I was also exposed

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<v Speaker 4>to like this woman who loved music so deeply, and

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<v Speaker 4>she just didn't want to leave her you know, just

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<v Speaker 4>let it go to auctions or something. She left it

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<v Speaker 4>for me, So I was I just felt like that

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<v Speaker 4>was God saying I'm gonna plant this seed for you.

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<v Speaker 4>So while everybody else is listening to like hip hop

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<v Speaker 4>and just other things, I'm listening to like just Deep line, Babyface.

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<v Speaker 3>And Voice the Men. And that's where it all started

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<v Speaker 3>for me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. Do you still have the record collection?

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<v Speaker 4>It's still back home. My uncle took something like found

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<v Speaker 4>it off. Like that's a whole other story.

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<v Speaker 1>Always Mama smoked the te We can't help.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think that's what helped me understand song structure

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<v Speaker 4>at an early age. And I used to fight all

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<v Speaker 4>the time, and I think that that was the first

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<v Speaker 4>time somebody told me I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Good at anything, you know what I mean. Like, So

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<v Speaker 3>then when my mom took me.

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<v Speaker 4>She's also Caribbean, so when she when you act up,

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<v Speaker 4>they think somebody put a root on you, especially, so

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<v Speaker 4>she took me to a church. She was like, somebody

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<v Speaker 4>put a root on my child. And she asked this

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<v Speaker 4>pastor to pray for me. He was in the middle

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<v Speaker 4>of choir rehearsal with a keyboard just like this, and

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<v Speaker 4>he was like wait one second, and he's like giving

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<v Speaker 4>everybody their parts and he was like, you ain't exempt.

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<v Speaker 4>He was like just leave him here, and like she left,

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<v Speaker 4>and when I was sitting down just like looking sad,

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<v Speaker 4>he was like, you're not exempt, get up here, and

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<v Speaker 4>he was like, can you hit the snow?

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<v Speaker 3>Can you hit the snow? Can you hit this note?

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<v Speaker 4>And he was like looking for the tenor notes. He

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<v Speaker 4>was like, man, God is amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>He was like, I've been looking for a male that

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<v Speaker 3>can hit the snow. So he put me in the choir.

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<v Speaker 1>How old are you at this point?

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<v Speaker 3>Now I'm like seven years old?

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<v Speaker 4>But again I still didn't have like singing ability. I

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<v Speaker 4>understood like song structure and with.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you could just hear, but you could hear it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So when he called me up, he was like, this

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<v Speaker 4>is crazy. So she's like, please let me do an

0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:08.520
<v Speaker 4>album with your son. And she's an album.

0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:10.679
<v Speaker 3>An album you wanted to do a church album with me?

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<v Speaker 3>And my mom was like my son. So she's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>this is part of the spell that they put on

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<v Speaker 3>my circle. She's like, oh, you went part of it?

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<v Speaker 3>What kind of sorcery? So she was like okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So he started working with me and training me, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's where it all started. I never was told I

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<v Speaker 4>was good at anything. I was a problem child.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were so you go to this church. You remember,

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<v Speaker 1>name was the name of chur I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't remember the church, but I don't remember. His name

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<v Speaker 3>was mister Nickerson. And it starts with him, starts with him.

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<v Speaker 4>And every day when everybody would go to after care

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<v Speaker 4>and like you know, play cards, she would pick me

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<v Speaker 4>up and drop me off at the church. So he

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<v Speaker 4>was like my basically my after care teacher and just started.

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<v Speaker 1>Teaching you how to sing. Yes, that's crazy. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And when I started singing the solos, when I was

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<v Speaker 4>ready to sing the solos, I remember one of the

0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:15.520
<v Speaker 4>songs was a Lot of the World, and I watched

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<v Speaker 4>people cry like I'm just like music can do that

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<v Speaker 4>to people, Like I don't want to do this.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to heal people.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I was so used to breaking people's hearts, like

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<v Speaker 4>not in a I wasn't in a romantic relationship. I

0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:29.840
<v Speaker 4>was a kid, but like I was so used to

0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:32.440
<v Speaker 4>being a disappointment. I felt like I was a disappointment.

0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:34.960
<v Speaker 4>It was almost like Ferris Bueller, like every time I

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<v Speaker 4>come around, like, oh my god, don't hang out with him.

0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:37.640
<v Speaker 3>He gonna fight, He's gonna be in trouble.

0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:39.120
<v Speaker 1>He was a badass kid.

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<v Speaker 3>I was bad. Like they used to call me Red

0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:42.920
<v Speaker 3>because I had all these red bruises on me. That

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<v Speaker 3>was my nickname Red.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, that was the first time people looked at

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:51.280
<v Speaker 4>me and saw hope. I felt like I had a purpose,

0:24:51.640 --> 0:24:52.439
<v Speaker 4>I could be something.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you feel okay?

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:57.320
<v Speaker 2>So do you feel like a part of that was

0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:01.000
<v Speaker 2>you coming over from the dr of like being immersed

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<v Speaker 2>into this new American culture that you didn't really know

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:04.399
<v Speaker 2>how to be.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like my biological father and this is I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just not able to talk about this, and I because

0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 4>I had a fear of him watching it and being

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 4>disappointed in me.

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:14.360
<v Speaker 3>But I just feel like he kind of programmed me to.

0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:18.800
<v Speaker 4>Basically, he just made it seem like the only way

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:20.720
<v Speaker 4>I would fail him is if I ever ever let

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<v Speaker 4>somebody else be a father figure to me while being

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<v Speaker 4>absent in my life. So anytime that some an authoritive,

0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:31.080
<v Speaker 4>if anybody spoke to me with any authority, I rejected it.

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:33.960
<v Speaker 3>M So, if you was my friend and you told

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<v Speaker 3>me what to do, I want to fight you.

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<v Speaker 4>If you was a teacher, nobody, I don't got to

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<v Speaker 4>do it because my dad told me the only way

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:40.359
<v Speaker 4>I would disappoint him is if I ever let another

0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:44.159
<v Speaker 4>father figure or another man be a father figure to me.

0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:45.640
<v Speaker 1>So that just created your aggression.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I wanted to fight everybody, and you can look

0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:51.199
<v Speaker 4>at my mom and I felt like then I was

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<v Speaker 4>mad at myself because my mother was my best friend

0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:54.679
<v Speaker 4>and the most important woman in the world to me.

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:57.080
<v Speaker 4>But I would always make her pick between me and

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<v Speaker 4>her boyfriends or whoever, because my dad told me, like

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<v Speaker 4>anybody that she brings home is the enemy, and being

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:07.479
<v Speaker 4>a great mother, she would always choose me.

0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:10.960
<v Speaker 3>I could. I sometimes felt the friction, like not again,

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 3>don't make me do this.

0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:17.719
<v Speaker 4>But I would always yeah when it's heartbreaking, Yeah, it

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:19.080
<v Speaker 4>is like when I think about it. So that's why

0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:20.639
<v Speaker 4>I just try to give her everything, Like I just

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 4>catch after her some money yesterday because I.

0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:24.960
<v Speaker 3>Really feel guilty. My sister's like, why are you spoiling her?

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 4>And I just feel like I took her youth, like

0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:28.960
<v Speaker 4>because my father, I remember when he was dropping me

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<v Speaker 4>off at her house when she won custody of me.

0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 4>He was like, the only way you could disappoint me, son,

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:37.160
<v Speaker 4>is if you ever call another man father. And as

0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 4>a kid, I looked like him and everything, like I

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:43.199
<v Speaker 4>was like bad, Like it's just like you're programming like

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:46.880
<v Speaker 4>a robot. He doesn't have information, like like you.

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:50.119
<v Speaker 3>Know, you think you my daddy. I'm a lash out.

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:53.040
<v Speaker 4>So through that I found healing in the church and

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 4>just my relationship with God. It just mellowed me out

0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:58.040
<v Speaker 4>a little bit. When I was saying, I would be like, oh,

0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 4>I don't got to be the problem, got to fight everybody.

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 4>Everybody ain't after me, like this music can heal me?

0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:07.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, when did you realize that that you actually

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:13.200
<v Speaker 1>did have a gift, Like it wasn't just it wasn't

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 1>just this church thing or the guy showing you how

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:17.359
<v Speaker 1>to do a certain thing. It was something that you

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 1>actually had in you that was special.

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 4>When there was a talent show that was happening, So

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 4>now my stepfather.

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Enters my life. Okay around what age is this.

0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:28.679
<v Speaker 3>Is around like twelve? Stepfather enters my life.

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:31.120
<v Speaker 4>And there was a talent show and I would just sing,

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:33.680
<v Speaker 4>we can't be friends with this girl named Norma big girl,

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:34.360
<v Speaker 4>so you know she.

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:35.280
<v Speaker 3>Was hollering.

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:38.639
<v Speaker 4>There were coxs part, come off, I had to do

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:42.159
<v Speaker 4>RLS part and your key and it came at in

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 4>our high school. When it comes down to the last

0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:46.199
<v Speaker 4>two they couldn't decide and you had to do like

0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 4>sing offs.

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:48.920
<v Speaker 3>And my stepfather was an audience and he was like,

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 3>you know you. I always thought you could be a single,

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 3>but I didn't know if you had to fight in you.

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 4>He was like, when it came down to y'all two,

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:56.480
<v Speaker 4>he was like, I saw a fire in your eyes.

0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 3>He was like, come on. He took me to the story.

0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 4>He bought me Brandy's album, he brought me your album.

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:04.119
<v Speaker 4>He brought me everybody's album. He's like, who's your favoriteartist?

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 4>I told him, and he was like, study these people,

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:09.199
<v Speaker 4>but study their careers, go look at their live performances.

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:10.439
<v Speaker 3>Like He's like, you have a chance at this. And

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 3>I was like, but how are we gonna find a

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:14.639
<v Speaker 3>record label? You don't know what record labels? And I

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:16.400
<v Speaker 3>always remember he said this, He said, if you do

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:20.399
<v Speaker 3>anything well enough, they will come find you. Yeah, And

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:23.360
<v Speaker 3>we did it, and Atlantic call every kid.

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:25.880
<v Speaker 4>And that's how I end up doing a development deal

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:27.200
<v Speaker 4>and how I'm at.

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 3>Trey because then I moved.

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 1>At this point, now I'm like fourteen, okay, oh you

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 1>get a call from Atlantic at fourteen?

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 3>They DM me on my space. Also, they hit me

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:39.600
<v Speaker 3>to be in Pretty Ricky. This is great.

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Baby Blue hit me you in Florida.

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:42.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm in Florida.

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 4>But now my space is like the thing and I'm

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 4>posting my own original music and I get a.

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 3>DM from Baby Blue.

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 4>From Pretty Ricky, He's like a pleasure had just left

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 4>the group around that time, and I'm like, I don't

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 4>know if y'all know, because back then, like you know,

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:56.480
<v Speaker 4>Florida niggas, like I had like a part in my

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 4>head and shit like that. So like there was like

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:00.760
<v Speaker 4>come out just for being to be Pretty Ricky. So

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, is this a joker? I was like, Dad,

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:04.120
<v Speaker 4>can you drive me to Miami? So he drove me

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:05.880
<v Speaker 4>to Miami. We go, and they're looking at.

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Me like you a kid, they're twenty.

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 4>I like team, but I don't think they knew how

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 4>young I was. I just was putting up music online.

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm virtually unknown, and so I'm half Dominicans, so like

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 4>I had a mustache in the third grade, Like even

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 4>if you look at my own fatures, I have faced

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 4>smoking cigarettes and lunch.

0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Look, look, look it's not what you think. Baby.

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 3>I know Dominican where it's pleasure because I'm like, what

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 3>y'all broke up? I didn't know none of this. I

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 3>didn't It wasn't out that pleasure left the group broke up.

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 4>No, it was like your audition would be if we

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 4>get there, baby Blue in swinst the door and I

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 4>now looking back, they knew immediately, like what the fuck

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 4>is going on?

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 3>But they still let me sing and.

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Everything, Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>Y, yeah you sing this, And it was just like

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 4>comical because I was like a kid saying you.

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Got me feeding That is great.

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 4>So left there that that obviously didn't go through. We

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 4>all knew what that was going to be, but yeah,

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 4>he just really saw it. And then after that Aaron

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 4>bay Shock flew.

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 3>He was like are you writing?

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 4>Because I was putting up so I was putting up

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:25.240
<v Speaker 4>original music and Aaron hit my dad. He's like are

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 4>you no, He's he DM do us and was like

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 4>Mike Karen is trying to sign this kid and everybody

0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 4>Atlantic is looking for this kid.

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 3>So he flew down. He was like who's writing these songs?

0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 4>Though again I'm fourteen, and my dad's like he's writing

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 4>them and Aaron's.

0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 1>Like you sure?

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't think he believed it.

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So then it gets the Troy Taylor to develop

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 4>me go to uh, I gotta go to school Atlanta.

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 4>TTU gotta go to school, and Trey's about to do

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 4>the radio album. And even then, Trey's like, I already

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 4>told you could sing. He was like, but you can

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 4>tell stories and you think that like that's a game.

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 4>He was like, that is your gift to you're sleeping

0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 4>on that gift. And I remember being and.

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 3>I remember being so annoyed.

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna tell you why I was annoyed because here

0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 4>I am in a development deal. I'm homeschool now because

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 4>I was a freshman and chef Tone and all these

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 4>amazing Brian Michael Cox, John T. Austin, Everybody's flying in

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 4>to work with Trey. So I'm like, damn, because all

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 4>I want to do is sing. So I'm like, damn,

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 4>just write me a song. Let me just sing so

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 4>I can send something back to Mike so I can.

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 3>Get off the bench. And then the Superstarring room is like,

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 3>but you can write too, and I'm like, no, I

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 3>just want to sing. I'm not sending it.

0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 4>So they looking at me like I'm not hungry. And

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 4>he would always be like Elijah Well, he called me

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 4>red at the time too. He's like, you can tell stories.

0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 4>He's like, if you really get in that bag, you're

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 4>gonna be special. And I was like, He's like and

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:50.040
<v Speaker 4>he noticed that. He said every time I'll tell you

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 4>that you like, shrug me off. He's like, write me

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 4>a song now, and I was like now, he said,

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 4>s K put on the beat, and that's the song

0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 4>that became Jupiter Love.

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy on the spot. I think it's time at fourteen.

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. Yes.

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 4>So I went from being a starving artist yeah, to

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 4>now having like twelve thousand dollars checks in the mail.

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 4>I will never forget this, bro. I think, like this

0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:18.200
<v Speaker 4>nigga trade, damn, it saved my life. I didn't want

0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 4>to tell my mom I was starving because as a

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 4>Caribbean woman's like, bring your ass back home and go

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 4>to college. The church thinks I'm crazy, like letting you

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 4>go out there. And I was talking to Tray in

0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:29.400
<v Speaker 4>the kitchen one time and he was like, are you anemic?

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:31.480
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, no, why you said that? He

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:33.600
<v Speaker 4>was like, you're shaking. I was so hungry. I didn't

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 4>want to tell nobody in the house. I was hungry

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 4>I'm shaking. I probably didn't eat for three y's.

0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 3>I was already skinny.

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 4>I didn't even weigh a hundred pounds, and he didn't

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 4>have to because I wasn't signed to him. I wasn't

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 4>Ever since that day, when he would be out with

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 4>a girl, he'll be on a date. If he just

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 4>came back from tour, he'll call me and be like, yo,

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm at the sports bar and grill what you want.

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 4>They got lobsters, and he will always bring me something home.

0:32:56.880 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 4>So things like that like almost make me emotional because

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 4>if maybe if I did, I went three days not eating,

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 4>but if I probably would have went two more days,

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:09.000
<v Speaker 4>I probably would have gave up and came back home,

0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. And he didn't owe me nothing.

0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 4>He's never called me and been like, nigga, give me

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 4>a free song, you know what I mean?

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 3>Like, I bet you that one time NA.

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Records the house and that extra butter Nigga come home.

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, man, And I remember when Sex, Love and Pain

0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 4>came out and we rolled around to it like so,

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, man, those are the moments where the

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 4>music industry so you know how you say you feel

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:44.680
<v Speaker 4>like you knew what you signed up for.

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know.

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 1>He's also fourteen.

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I believed in the dream.

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 4>I believe that if you made music good enough and

0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 4>you were a good person, you would win. My reality,

0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:00.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm seeing the bad niggas win. And I saw a

0:34:00.400 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 4>tweet the other day. I was like, damn, somebody said,

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 4>what's something that you learned that as doing. Somebody said

0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:07.920
<v Speaker 4>there is no reward for being a good person.

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't agree with that.

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 4>I don't say that, but I think I'm seeing the

0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 4>reward now. It might not be right away.

0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:20.720
<v Speaker 1>Niggas quit, niggas, quit bro a nigga.

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:23.399
<v Speaker 2>I am a walking as the church guys would say,

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 2>a walking.

0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:31.399
<v Speaker 1>Test talk to talk because because I've seen I've seen

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 1>every part of the music industry.

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Literally, I've seen every part of you know, every pitfall,

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:39.839
<v Speaker 2>every door being closed.

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Like literally my family was blackballed in the music business

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:44.759
<v Speaker 1>for a minute, you know what I mean.

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 2>So seeing how if you just don't quite and you

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:54.239
<v Speaker 2>stay solid, you know what I mean? I was having

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:55.720
<v Speaker 2>I was on the phone with two of my guys

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 2>last night. Man to my boys from Kansas City, that's

0:34:58.280 --> 0:34:59.240
<v Speaker 2>that's that's the homies.

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Man and.

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:04.600
<v Speaker 2>I said, the thing that I'm most proud of in

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 2>my career is that you can run my name through

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 2>the whatever you want to.

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna come back a one Yola, It's coming back.

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:12.880
<v Speaker 1>It's pure.

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:15.959
<v Speaker 2>I ain't never fucked nobody over, I ain't never stole

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 2>nothing from nobody. I've tried to do nothing but help.

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:24.479
<v Speaker 2>And God is shining on you now. Could it happen

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:28.880
<v Speaker 2>for me at twenty possibly, But I'm good with it

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:29.799
<v Speaker 2>happening for me now.

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 3>Man, I come when you want them, but He's always

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:32.960
<v Speaker 3>on time on man.

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 2>So like you know, cause I see a lot of

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:39.759
<v Speaker 2>those tweets and those memes and different stuff like that,

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 2>and when I see him, I just kind of laugh

0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 2>because I'm just.

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:47.759
<v Speaker 1>Like, it can be greater later, and it will be,

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:49.399
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean.

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Like, think about how long we've been in this industry

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 2>and how you know, certain people have only had very

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:58.759
<v Speaker 2>small seasons in it, and how we look up and

0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 2>it's like, you know, for me, death in and for

0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:05.839
<v Speaker 2>Tank like this is decades, decades, decades of the music

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:08.799
<v Speaker 2>bins of I've never done anything else.

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's been real ups and real downs. Yeah,

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:15.880
<v Speaker 1>can you survive them?

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:18.160
<v Speaker 4>A good testament to that is I was telling this

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 4>joke and the producer, I know they're watching, and I'm

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 4>saying this in light.

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 3>This is not a dig.

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:27.239
<v Speaker 4>But there was a song on my last album and

0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 4>Priscilla Renee, who I kind of started off just from

0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 4>Florida to And I've always said, even when we was

0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 4>making the rounds of songwriters doing six sessions today, I

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 4>would always be like that Priscilla is different.

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:40.160
<v Speaker 3>They would aways be like, who do you? I always said,

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:41.359
<v Speaker 3>Priscilla is different.

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:41.919
<v Speaker 6>And.

0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:44.799
<v Speaker 4>You know she had deals with it, didn't, you know,

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:47.359
<v Speaker 4>doll houses where it didn't pay off. And one time

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:49.959
<v Speaker 4>we were working on Keisha actually and she was playing

0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:51.360
<v Speaker 4>me her music. She was like, I'm gonna try this

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:53.319
<v Speaker 4>one more time. And we were like texting each other,

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:56.200
<v Speaker 4>like what can we do hire marketing things because you know,

0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 4>now you got a little backstash from writing songs.

0:36:59.600 --> 0:36:59.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:01.399
<v Speaker 3>So she's like, I'm just gonna go for it. I'm

0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 3>like I'm going forward too.

0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:03.880
<v Speaker 4>So she plays her album and I play with my

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:05.640
<v Speaker 4>album and there's a song called dark Skin. I was like,

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:07.480
<v Speaker 4>I would love to have you on this record. She

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:09.040
<v Speaker 4>was like, I love this song. Can I get on it.

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:10.560
<v Speaker 4>So I send her the file. She sends it right back.

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 4>She's like, I'm going in with cook. So I'm like, oh,

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 4>you're smart, like you putting out an independent project, but

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 4>you going to cook.

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:18.240
<v Speaker 3>You know, like how did you know what you spending?

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:19.920
<v Speaker 3>So the quality is going to be there.

0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 4>So she sends it back and then the song now

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:26.920
<v Speaker 4>has her myself, D Smoke and Duran Bernard. So I'm

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:29.799
<v Speaker 4>playing the record and then so and there's a there's

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:32.399
<v Speaker 4>somebody that's a part of the project. It was just like, damn,

0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:34.440
<v Speaker 4>the song's too long, Like we got to cut somebody

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 4>at the time. You know, it's D Smoke. He's popping,

0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:38.799
<v Speaker 4>so it's like you got to take the girl off

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 4>at the end.

0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:40.960
<v Speaker 3>Who's the girl off? I'm like, that's money, she's fire.

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 3>He's like, she gotta go.

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 4>I was like, bro, I don't care if that song

0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:46.279
<v Speaker 4>five minutes long. She's not coming off that record like

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:49.759
<v Speaker 4>she's incredible. And I was like, it's a song about

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 4>dark skin is a chocolate woman. Like I'm just I'm

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:53.160
<v Speaker 4>so sick of that, you know what I mean?

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Like so uh, and.

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm not chocolate enough to care. The record by myself

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 3>it's so bro.

0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 4>A week later, hours and hours go crazy. I call

0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:08.279
<v Speaker 4>that same person up I sent him. He's like, yes,

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:09.000
<v Speaker 4>you are Bro.

0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:10.879
<v Speaker 3>I said, you remember that girl you said take off

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:11.320
<v Speaker 3>the record?

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 1>That's her.

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:18.440
<v Speaker 4>And I just that's just the most beautiful Victorian Monett.

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:21.719
<v Speaker 4>I feel like we are in that season where.

0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:25.440
<v Speaker 3>Like we were. I think I started this when I

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 3>spoke to y'all.

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 4>I look back at it and I'm like, damn, I

0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:30.360
<v Speaker 4>really got to get got to get a master class

0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:33.800
<v Speaker 4>from Usher. We were up there for two months working

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:36.319
<v Speaker 4>on that project in New York at Jungle City.

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 2>Come on, speak on that project because everybody, everybody may

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:43.160
<v Speaker 2>not know. Yeah, so this is this is the platform

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:43.839
<v Speaker 2>to tell him what it is.

0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:46.560
<v Speaker 4>Lusha was working on looking for myself. I was the

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:49.440
<v Speaker 4>least qualified in that room. Diplo was going crazy with

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 4>the Beyonce Run the World. Usher's Usher Miguel was coming

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 4>in and out, and I literally was like, why do

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:58.000
<v Speaker 4>these niggas have me here? Like is this Mark Pitts

0:38:58.040 --> 0:38:59.800
<v Speaker 4>just like really just trying to help me? Like this

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:01.920
<v Speaker 4>pists got a heart like that? Or does us know

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 4>what I could do that?

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:04.080
<v Speaker 3>He did? He asked me to be.

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:08.440
<v Speaker 4>Here personally, and I just remember just like sometimes should

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 4>I speak up, should I say anything? So I would

0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:11.960
<v Speaker 4>try to come to the studio before like anybody got

0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 4>there to just kind of get my ideas off so

0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:15.960
<v Speaker 4>that if Usher heard it, he would like it. And

0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:18.920
<v Speaker 4>how we really bond it was through connect For and

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:20.840
<v Speaker 4>I think just how good I was at connect For.

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:22.759
<v Speaker 4>I think he was able to be like, Okay, this

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:26.600
<v Speaker 4>guy's actually intelligent, but he's so smart, Like I see

0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:29.759
<v Speaker 4>why him and Beyonce have had the longevity that he

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 4>watched me play and played me long enough to study

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:33.719
<v Speaker 4>how I played, and he's one of the first people

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:35.319
<v Speaker 4>to ever beat me and connect For, like, that's like

0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:39.399
<v Speaker 4>one of my superpowers.

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 3>Is my superpower?

0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm damning like unbeatable thing, Okay, And he told me

0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 4>he was like, I know who could get you.

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 3>He's like Beyonce and gets you.

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:49.360
<v Speaker 4>So there's like I don't know, there's there's something, but

0:39:49.400 --> 0:39:51.480
<v Speaker 4>I feel like that was when the ice broke and

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:54.920
<v Speaker 4>I was able to have that synergy with him to

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:57.719
<v Speaker 4>create a record like Climax, because prior to that we

0:39:57.719 --> 0:39:59.279
<v Speaker 4>were just there and I was like trying to do things,

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:01.319
<v Speaker 4>and I remember somebody was like do that a LANDA shit.

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:03.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I'm not from Atlanta. I just lived in

0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 3>all Side in the trade.

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 4>But I learned the moves that he was making when

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 4>somebody was walking the room and be like, Hey, we're

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:12.279
<v Speaker 4>gonna rap this tour and hit these markets first, We're

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:15.640
<v Speaker 4>gonna do these I'm like listening because artist development is

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:17.400
<v Speaker 4>not a thing anymore. So now I get to be

0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 4>exposed and be a fly in the wall with a

0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 4>legend and understanding. Then one day he just was like,

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:23.000
<v Speaker 4>he was like, what do you listen to it? I'm

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:25.520
<v Speaker 4>like telling him about like I listened to Radiohead and

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:27.760
<v Speaker 4>we're going through songs and he's like playing me Empire

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 4>of the Sun and he's like, you want to hear

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:32.399
<v Speaker 4>what didn't make Confessions? So I'm like, yes, I want

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:34.759
<v Speaker 4>to hear yeah, and he's playing me so and I'm like,

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:37.279
<v Speaker 4>oh my god, this is insane. Why didn't this make

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:41.680
<v Speaker 4>the project? And he's like, hmm, the story it was

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:43.719
<v Speaker 4>a great song. This song might be better than this song,

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:45.880
<v Speaker 4>but it would have thrown off the conversation. So now

0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:50.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm understanding committing to a body of work and sonically

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 4>and just the discipline that takes, and when I look

0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 4>at money Long, I'm like, Okay, I know you was

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 4>back there with Rihanna, just like listening, studying. When I

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:03.799
<v Speaker 4>look at how Victoria's moving, she wants it. You could

0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:05.920
<v Speaker 4>tell she wasn't just in the room playing paddy Cake

0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:08.879
<v Speaker 4>with Arianna Grande. She she was like, I need that,

0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:11.320
<v Speaker 4>and when it's my time, I will be ready.

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:12.600
<v Speaker 3>And she was so ready.

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:15.960
<v Speaker 4>So I do feel like there's like a an appreciation

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:18.520
<v Speaker 4>now for the singer songwriter because we're the last of

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 4>the for the last batch of people to go through

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 4>artists development, and we understand the sacrifices that y'all make because.

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:26.920
<v Speaker 3>Now people like, oh, I don't know.

0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:28.640
<v Speaker 4>Somebody told me the other day there was like I

0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:30.399
<v Speaker 4>brought up somebody to them and they're like, I don't

0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 4>know who that is. I'm like, you do know as

0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:32.960
<v Speaker 4>a musician, oh, I said Stevie Wonder.

0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:34.480
<v Speaker 3>They're like, oh, that's before my time. I was like,

0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:35.359
<v Speaker 3>that's before my time.

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:39.560
<v Speaker 4>As a musician, it's your job, Like what are you

0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Speaker 4>pulling from?

0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:41.399
<v Speaker 3>So you're just gonna pull from?

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Uh, that's a crazy you know what I mean?

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 2>That Steve Wonder, just before you Steve wonders of all time,

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:49.239
<v Speaker 2>of all times.

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:51.359
<v Speaker 4>That makes me so mad. But this is somebody that's

0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:53.440
<v Speaker 4>actually pretty successful, right, I get it.

0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:53.759
<v Speaker 1>That's that.

0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:56.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm just like that, ain't the flex that you think

0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 3>it is? You got to study.

0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's go. I have a saying, and I say,

0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:10.840
<v Speaker 1>I've said this a few times. When Climax was being made,

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:14.920
<v Speaker 1>there was no better song being made in the universe.

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Wow, bro, what I've heard him say that before about

0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:18.879
<v Speaker 2>this song.

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 1>I've heard him. Yes, when you were making that song,

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:27.719
<v Speaker 1>there was no better song being made in the universe. Wow, bro.

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:32.799
<v Speaker 1>I was that song dropped. I was shook it.

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 4>Bro, that is the highest call I've ever got. And

0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:42.120
<v Speaker 4>that's hard to audit that song.

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:46.520
<v Speaker 1>I had to listen to it over and over and over,

0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:50.840
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, it's perfect.

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:53.279
<v Speaker 3>I didn't think we knew that at the time.

0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:57.080
<v Speaker 1>That's a great song because I'm like a I'm like

0:42:57.160 --> 0:43:05.080
<v Speaker 1>a medium house, R and B, gospel, classical, I'm a

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:10.600
<v Speaker 1>hybrid of I love fucking music and the meeting, the

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 1>meeting of the worlds in so many different worlds. In

0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:21.120
<v Speaker 1>that one song, it was all perfect. Yeah, yeah, you know.

0:43:21.160 --> 0:43:23.080
<v Speaker 4>Mark Pitts came in the room the next day when

0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:26.240
<v Speaker 4>we did that record, and he played that record six times,

0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 4>maybe maybe ten times, and every time you played the

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:32.600
<v Speaker 4>Usher was damn gliding around the studio.

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:40.960
<v Speaker 3>This nigga can dance anything. He was just every time.

0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 4>I said, oh, they like this record, and Mark Piss said, congratulations,

0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:48.319
<v Speaker 4>y'all made a T shirt record. I said, what is

0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:50.560
<v Speaker 4>a T shirt record? He said, a song that can

0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:53.320
<v Speaker 4>fit everybody. He said, anybody can wear a T shirt.

0:43:54.320 --> 0:43:56.840
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, okay, But in my head I

0:43:56.840 --> 0:43:58.560
<v Speaker 4>didn't understand it because I knew Usher.

0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:02.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, So I wanted to get a record that

0:44:02.120 --> 0:44:03.239
<v Speaker 3>he could really dance on.

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:08.200
<v Speaker 4>And then when he was like traveling his nat and

0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:11.239
<v Speaker 4>I think they were like, yo, as we're playing it,

0:44:11.239 --> 0:44:12.919
<v Speaker 4>it's looking like Climax is going to be the single.

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 4>I'm like this slow song right now with the Temple,

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:18.240
<v Speaker 4>Calvin Harris and David Ghetto.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not slow, yeah, it's not slow, it's moving like

0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:36.560
<v Speaker 1>it's and his singing on this song right, it's like

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I have a top five of singers and no, no, no,

0:44:40.719 --> 0:44:45.520
<v Speaker 1>and the top ten of singers right and Usher on

0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 1>this particular song it's top five.

0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:49.560
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:55.320
<v Speaker 1>His performance on climax for me is a top five performance,

0:44:55.520 --> 0:45:01.719
<v Speaker 1>whereas in I'm a singer, motherfucker. Yeah for sure, I

0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:05.800
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have sang it like that, Really no, because because

0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:09.480
<v Speaker 1>there's a thing right I could have copied. I can

0:45:09.560 --> 0:45:15.600
<v Speaker 1>copy him because my vibrada is not naturally fast, you

0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:18.160
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. His shifts like he's the one.

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:20.080
<v Speaker 1>He's one of those guys like back in those times,

0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:23.680
<v Speaker 1>back in R. Kelly's times, the scatting he was early

0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:25.960
<v Speaker 1>in that. I had to learn that that wasn't originally

0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:28.520
<v Speaker 1>my style, so I'm able to. I learned a lot

0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:30.680
<v Speaker 1>of things and owned a lot of things like they

0:45:30.680 --> 0:45:33.160
<v Speaker 1>were mine, but they weren't. Some things are just ushers,

0:45:33.520 --> 0:45:35.960
<v Speaker 1>they're his, you know what I'm saying. And on that song,

0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:38.880
<v Speaker 1>his ownership of that song, the way you got, the

0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:41.040
<v Speaker 1>way you the way you wrote it, and the way

0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:44.359
<v Speaker 1>it just made sense for him. It's an usher song.

0:45:44.440 --> 0:45:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh for sure. I don't hear anybody else say singing

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:49.400
<v Speaker 1>that song no one.

0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:52.120
<v Speaker 4>Which is crazy because when I when that song came

0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:53.680
<v Speaker 4>on and then I just got signed to death Jam,

0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:56.080
<v Speaker 4>everybody's like, you're so stupid, how could you give that

0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:56.560
<v Speaker 4>song to us?

0:45:56.600 --> 0:45:59.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, y'all don't understand how songwriting works. We made

0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:00.319
<v Speaker 3>that song.

0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:04.480
<v Speaker 4>I was basically contracted to come to New York and

0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:07.239
<v Speaker 4>do a song. And if you know, when you work

0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:10.239
<v Speaker 4>with an artist of Usher's caliber, you're caliber. You're not

0:46:10.239 --> 0:46:12.400
<v Speaker 4>write anybody who tells the truth in their music. You're

0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:15.040
<v Speaker 4>not writing for anybody. You're writing with them, you're telling,

0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:18.680
<v Speaker 4>you're helping them illustrate their story where they're at, and

0:46:18.719 --> 0:46:22.040
<v Speaker 4>then they're gonna put them in the record. So exactly

0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 4>what you said, like that was his song from the beginning,

0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:30.359
<v Speaker 4>But that's from the conversations we're having. We're talking about

0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:34.440
<v Speaker 4>Empire of the Sun, Radiohead, and cold Play like him

0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:37.600
<v Speaker 4>and I really love cold Play, like so that that

0:46:37.719 --> 0:46:38.840
<v Speaker 4>verse is very cold.

0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:45.560
<v Speaker 1>I went, I went to Vegas. I probably went to

0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Vegas you'll like six times. And I'm just waiting for

0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Climax and it never happened.

0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:49.439
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:54.759
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna say this, and it's a threat. It's

0:46:54.760 --> 0:46:58.480
<v Speaker 1>a threat if Climax is not on the set list

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:03.600
<v Speaker 1>on this tour, fall it's a problem. Somebody, somebody gonna

0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:04.000
<v Speaker 1>get seen.

0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 3>And this is not the person to play with a conversation.

0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, this is a threat. If Climax is not

0:47:16.360 --> 0:47:17.880
<v Speaker 1>in the set list.

0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:23.000
<v Speaker 3>And you about this big, my friend, somebody will be seen.

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:26.760
<v Speaker 2>I respect it because that's how I felt about Slowly

0:47:27.480 --> 0:47:31.360
<v Speaker 2>And I put it back in to put put Slowly back.

0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:32.520
<v Speaker 1>And set I did it. I did it.

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:33.560
<v Speaker 3>You do Please don't go right?

0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you do.

0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:35.440
<v Speaker 3>Maybe I'll deserve.

0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:39.759
<v Speaker 1>But you know, Slowly was Slowly was like.

0:47:41.400 --> 0:47:44.319
<v Speaker 2>A fan favorite more so than it was like the

0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:45.200
<v Speaker 2>chart favorite.

0:47:45.239 --> 0:47:47.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, it wasn't the art favorite because the niggas

0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:53.160
<v Speaker 1>stole all the money. I saw another day to a

0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:58.040
<v Speaker 1>nigga stole he stole the radio. What what eating a

0:47:58.160 --> 0:48:03.520
<v Speaker 1>dummy company? Yeah? Yeah, this goes to the promotional I

0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:11.920
<v Speaker 1>never knew, my cousin what's getting siphoned, getting worked the

0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:24.240
<v Speaker 1>music business. The music one thing I am is aware.

0:48:24.840 --> 0:48:26.799
<v Speaker 1>So if I hear a certain song and they killed

0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:27.400
<v Speaker 1>it and they talking.

0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:30.520
<v Speaker 2>About what if Jay Valentine would have Jay Valentine ain't

0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:31.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna go nowhere near.

0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:34.240
<v Speaker 3>Valentine. Nothing.

0:48:34.719 --> 0:48:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Valentine know what he can and can't do. And I'm

0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:40.440
<v Speaker 2>fine with that, you know what I'm saying. And and

0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:43.200
<v Speaker 2>and to me, arretst should be fine with that. Man

0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:45.840
<v Speaker 2>And should and should find their way to entertained.

0:48:46.120 --> 0:48:48.080
<v Speaker 4>That is your artistry, because even when Tank was like,

0:48:49.080 --> 0:48:51.200
<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't have sung Climax like that.

0:48:51.719 --> 0:48:53.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm over here like, but I'd be interested to see

0:48:53.800 --> 0:48:54.480
<v Speaker 3>how you would.

0:48:54.239 --> 0:48:57.080
<v Speaker 4>Have because it's your artistry, and it's your artistry and

0:48:57.120 --> 0:48:58.720
<v Speaker 4>how you contribute to something.

0:48:58.800 --> 0:49:02.640
<v Speaker 3>You're bringing yourself, your tone, you are approached to it.

0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you hear things and you're like, that's the

0:49:06.120 --> 0:49:10.160
<v Speaker 1>way that should have been. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly how

0:49:10.280 --> 0:49:14.719
<v Speaker 1>that ship. Don't nobody touch nothing, leave it alone, leave

0:49:14.760 --> 0:49:31.040
<v Speaker 1>it alone. Well, time to be talented? Yeah, yeah, you're

0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:32.359
<v Speaker 1>playing that little piano you learned?

0:49:32.400 --> 0:49:36.200
<v Speaker 3>Though, Man, what is this?

0:49:44.680 --> 0:49:51.759
<v Speaker 1>Take your time? There's normally a speech that goes right here.

0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:56.319
<v Speaker 1>But the people just want to know what they want

0:49:56.360 --> 0:49:56.480
<v Speaker 1>to know.

0:49:58.000 --> 0:50:00.480
<v Speaker 3>H fun?

0:50:01.800 --> 0:50:12.759
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, your top fun moment, top fun, your top fun

0:50:13.560 --> 0:50:18.279
<v Speaker 6>Harry Easing what all me?

0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:22.400
<v Speaker 3>So? Yeah, we got to know?

0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:26.000
<v Speaker 1>How did they sow big though.

0:50:26.040 --> 0:50:43.600
<v Speaker 5>You ain't gonna nor Yeah, gime on resolved?

0:50:49.600 --> 0:50:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, borry.

0:50:56.520 --> 0:51:02.240
<v Speaker 3>Your son my god today? Okay, Top five.

0:51:02.160 --> 0:51:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Hold on, hold on, Elijah Blake your top five R

0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:11.200
<v Speaker 1>and B singers.

0:51:11.680 --> 0:51:13.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm glad you said R and B singers all right,

0:51:14.920 --> 0:51:22.480
<v Speaker 4>h this is no cap mhmm you tank, Donnie had

0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:35.560
<v Speaker 4>the way Joe Brandy, come on, tough, will be tough?

0:51:36.239 --> 0:51:36.960
<v Speaker 4>Who number five?

0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:39.359
<v Speaker 1>Though? I think I know who know? Five? Two, three,

0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:39.959
<v Speaker 1>four fifth?

0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:42.400
<v Speaker 3>My surprise.

0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Mariah, Oh, come on right, come on.

0:51:49.400 --> 0:51:52.040
<v Speaker 4>I feel like in terms of being a vocal technician,

0:51:53.800 --> 0:51:56.720
<v Speaker 4>she's nasty. I think that she doesn't get that credit.

0:51:57.320 --> 0:52:00.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, you know what she she doesn't get that credit,

0:52:01.760 --> 0:52:04.720
<v Speaker 1>but only because it lived in such a pop space.

0:52:05.520 --> 0:52:08.759
<v Speaker 4>And that's why being able to write them runs in

0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:11.120
<v Speaker 4>the melodies and get them a pop in that space.

0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Like it's a shot. You think. They don't realize what

0:52:18.719 --> 0:52:21.719
<v Speaker 1>that is, what it's insane. They don't realize what that is.

0:52:22.040 --> 0:52:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Like I saw somebody the other day say yeah, but

0:52:24.120 --> 0:52:25.880
<v Speaker 1>on the ground they ain't can't say. I say, what

0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:26.520
<v Speaker 1>did you say?

0:52:27.320 --> 0:52:28.080
<v Speaker 3>Jesus name, what.

0:52:29.680 --> 0:52:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Did you just say? She can't do. I tend to

0:52:32.400 --> 0:52:33.000
<v Speaker 1>find that.

0:52:35.480 --> 0:52:42.080
<v Speaker 2>Vocalists, especially in our space, get they get knocked down

0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:48.200
<v Speaker 2>vocally when they become more popular. Are they still more records?

0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:52.279
<v Speaker 2>It's like when they speak about boys to men and

0:52:52.360 --> 0:52:55.080
<v Speaker 2>they're like, yeah, boys to men was but ain't no

0:52:55.680 --> 0:53:00.520
<v Speaker 2>no nothing, there is no like what do you talking

0:53:00.640 --> 0:53:01.120
<v Speaker 2>of cold.

0:53:01.560 --> 0:53:04.280
<v Speaker 3>They were singing in a pop space. They were pop stars.

0:53:04.400 --> 0:53:08.640
<v Speaker 1>But that's the part in our Yeah, in our space.

0:53:08.800 --> 0:53:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, we look at that like, well, maybe they're not

0:53:11.640 --> 0:53:14.799
<v Speaker 2>as cold because they wasn't keeping it as real.

0:53:15.160 --> 0:53:16.400
<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about?

0:53:17.640 --> 0:53:20.080
<v Speaker 2>They were taking our music and giving it to the

0:53:20.239 --> 0:53:24.400
<v Speaker 2>world world, Yes, and the highest level.

0:53:24.640 --> 0:53:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Mariah Carey was giving it to the world at the highest.

0:53:28.800 --> 0:53:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Level and still getting it off to where getting it

0:53:31.560 --> 0:53:34.960
<v Speaker 2>off though, those who know can he getting it off?

0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:37.600
<v Speaker 3>But did you hear what she just did? But the

0:53:37.719 --> 0:53:38.960
<v Speaker 3>kids are singing along, don't.

0:53:38.800 --> 0:53:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Know what's happened, no idea, what's happening?

0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:43.319
<v Speaker 4>Yes, her and Beyonce do that the best, the best,

0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:48.000
<v Speaker 4>the best. Beyonce sneaks it in just enough to let

0:53:48.120 --> 0:53:50.640
<v Speaker 4>don't play with me if I don't hear it though, like.

0:53:50.840 --> 0:53:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Because us as runners, we can hear. It's like this,

0:53:53.080 --> 0:53:58.720
<v Speaker 1>she almost look up right there, watch right there? Got crazy.

0:53:58.960 --> 0:54:03.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if it's very if I want to, I want.

0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:09.160
<v Speaker 1>To, I will, Okay, Top five R and B songs,

0:54:12.160 --> 0:54:16.879
<v Speaker 1>Oh so into you to me? Amazing song, amazing song.

0:54:17.480 --> 0:54:21.080
<v Speaker 1>They easy. I mean, it's it's just it feels like

0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:22.280
<v Speaker 1>summer breeze every.

0:54:22.120 --> 0:54:23.759
<v Speaker 3>Time I got this song. It puts me in a

0:54:23.840 --> 0:54:25.480
<v Speaker 3>good space. Can you stand the rain?

0:54:25.719 --> 0:54:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Why not? Why not? About real song? Right? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, stories.

0:54:35.680 --> 0:54:43.920
<v Speaker 3>And maybe just because dang standing there ain't water runs dry?

0:54:44.000 --> 0:54:50.920
<v Speaker 3>Voice to man a song for you, Donnie Hathaway, And

0:54:51.400 --> 0:54:53.320
<v Speaker 3>I have to say this, Brandy's when.

0:54:53.160 --> 0:55:00.279
<v Speaker 1>You Touch Me talking about getting it off? She getting

0:55:00.320 --> 0:55:05.279
<v Speaker 1>it off off. Nigga is so many intricate things that

0:55:05.400 --> 0:55:10.920
<v Speaker 1>she does that feels subtle, and that in itself is

0:55:11.000 --> 0:55:14.680
<v Speaker 1>a skill. You think it's easy. It is not.

0:55:15.239 --> 0:55:15.600
<v Speaker 6>It is not.

0:55:15.880 --> 0:55:18.080
<v Speaker 1>It is not sweet. I'd like to hear you don't

0:55:18.120 --> 0:55:19.000
<v Speaker 1>run up on these notes.

0:55:24.360 --> 0:55:28.000
<v Speaker 3>That's the master class on what to do, when to

0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:28.840
<v Speaker 3>do it, how to do it?

0:55:29.600 --> 0:55:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Can I tell you something? That song for me, she

0:55:33.000 --> 0:55:36.759
<v Speaker 1>was already like one of my you know, she was

0:55:36.840 --> 0:55:40.560
<v Speaker 1>already in Bible space for me. That song right there

0:55:42.400 --> 0:55:47.439
<v Speaker 1>just it closed the book on anybody else being able

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:51.000
<v Speaker 1>to be that. Who wrote that song? Who wrote When

0:55:51.000 --> 0:55:56.399
<v Speaker 1>You Touch Me? To write that? Yeah? Because that's that's yeah,

0:55:56.440 --> 0:55:58.239
<v Speaker 1>that's them, That's the dream team.

0:55:58.280 --> 0:55:58.360
<v Speaker 3>Bro.

0:55:59.160 --> 0:56:03.160
<v Speaker 1>And I'm listening to this song and I'm like, what

0:56:03.360 --> 0:56:04.399
<v Speaker 1>is happening right now?

0:56:04.880 --> 0:56:06.480
<v Speaker 3>It just keeps getting better and better and better.

0:56:06.840 --> 0:56:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Am I getting saved? Is the Lord touching me? Is

0:56:13.400 --> 0:56:16.440
<v Speaker 1>when you touch the touching me?

0:56:17.239 --> 0:56:17.440
<v Speaker 4>Is it?

0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:22.640
<v Speaker 1>What is happening right now? And I am taking When

0:56:22.680 --> 0:56:23.240
<v Speaker 1>I say.

0:56:23.239 --> 0:56:27.120
<v Speaker 3>Note the harmonies she comes in delicate, then she's full

0:56:27.160 --> 0:56:28.000
<v Speaker 3>belting at the air.

0:56:28.080 --> 0:56:28.200
<v Speaker 4>Well.

0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:30.680
<v Speaker 1>We have and we have to and we can't look

0:56:30.800 --> 0:56:36.040
<v Speaker 1>past the musical contribution, dur child, we can't look we

0:56:36.120 --> 0:56:40.280
<v Speaker 1>can't look past the marriage, the perfect marriage of those things.

0:56:40.320 --> 0:56:44.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting chills like that. As soon as the track

0:56:44.440 --> 0:56:48.320
<v Speaker 1>came out, I was like, perfect, who's doing this? That

0:56:48.520 --> 0:56:54.680
<v Speaker 1>song is incredible? And then she she just said, sit down, kids, yes,

0:56:55.360 --> 0:57:02.239
<v Speaker 1>sit down, pull out your note pets. This is how Yes,

0:57:02.680 --> 0:57:04.920
<v Speaker 1>you sing a song from top to bottom.

0:57:05.120 --> 0:57:07.000
<v Speaker 3>Yes, now you sang a song.

0:57:09.080 --> 0:57:15.200
<v Speaker 4>That song changed placement, arrangement, everything for me. I think

0:57:15.200 --> 0:57:18.919
<v Speaker 4>it changed it for everybody. Yeah, Like that's the class

0:57:19.040 --> 0:57:19.840
<v Speaker 4>of Brandy right there.

0:57:19.880 --> 0:57:22.240
<v Speaker 1>For sure, that is the ultimate master. You said that,

0:57:22.400 --> 0:57:25.400
<v Speaker 1>You said it right, that was the ultimate Brandy master.

0:57:25.520 --> 0:57:27.400
<v Speaker 1>I remember what I was doing. I was hosting h

0:57:28.640 --> 0:57:30.720
<v Speaker 1>R and B lived R and B Live here, and

0:57:30.880 --> 0:57:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Brandy was was a special guest one night, and and

0:57:35.040 --> 0:57:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I had never seen dudes like huddle up together like

0:57:40.040 --> 0:57:41.280
<v Speaker 1>shoulder to shoulder.

0:57:41.080 --> 0:57:43.080
<v Speaker 3>Like she has that effect.

0:57:44.000 --> 0:57:46.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about my guys, Bob. Everybody was in the

0:57:46.360 --> 0:57:46.720
<v Speaker 1>corner like.

0:57:48.840 --> 0:57:50.640
<v Speaker 3>She did live, she was.

0:57:50.840 --> 0:57:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Live performing live. Everybody was everybody was in the corner

0:57:54.480 --> 0:57:57.680
<v Speaker 1>huddled up like like the musicians corner like that, like.

0:57:58.240 --> 0:57:59.120
<v Speaker 3>What's she gonna do next?

0:58:00.560 --> 0:58:04.720
<v Speaker 1>And she's just sitting on a stool singing and we

0:58:04.800 --> 0:58:10.560
<v Speaker 1>are sitting we are like in all the entire time,

0:58:10.720 --> 0:58:21.040
<v Speaker 1>is she the best? Hm? I will say an R

0:58:21.120 --> 0:58:29.280
<v Speaker 1>and B if we're if we're for that, yes, because

0:58:29.400 --> 0:58:35.560
<v Speaker 1>because Brandy is a thing. Not Jazmine over over Brandy. No,

0:58:38.200 --> 0:58:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go Brandy. Well, I think

0:58:42.760 --> 0:58:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Jasmine may have a slight edge on Brandy just in

0:58:46.600 --> 0:58:52.640
<v Speaker 1>terms of the the hype right right, right, I feel

0:58:52.680 --> 0:58:55.840
<v Speaker 1>like maybe Jasmine can sing a little higher, yeah, than

0:58:56.560 --> 0:58:59.800
<v Speaker 1>than than Brandy. Right, But in terms of the dexter

0:59:01.120 --> 0:59:05.439
<v Speaker 1>and the wheelhouse and the difficulty, she might be the best.

0:59:07.920 --> 0:59:10.000
<v Speaker 3>I've asked this the singers at.

0:59:10.040 --> 0:59:17.120
<v Speaker 1>That because then you go to the other the other

0:59:17.400 --> 0:59:23.440
<v Speaker 1>bags that include Whitney and Beyonce and Celine Dion right,

0:59:23.920 --> 0:59:27.520
<v Speaker 1>like those are different kinds of singers in a different

0:59:27.560 --> 0:59:35.160
<v Speaker 1>type of bag with power right and fall. But but

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<v Speaker 1>Beyonce can also go.

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<v Speaker 3>Up and stay up.

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<v Speaker 1>She can do that, so it's like jazzmin too. Brandy's

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<v Speaker 1>a thing that I feel like Jasmine falls within.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the best answer I thought. I had the best

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<v Speaker 3>answer me and Rodney. You know how to ask.

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<v Speaker 4>I had to ask Rodney. I asked this question to

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<v Speaker 4>singers all day because I want to know. It's always

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<v Speaker 4>Jazmine or Brandy or Beyonce. And I was talking Rodney,

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<v Speaker 4>and uh, I said, you know, I think some singers

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<v Speaker 4>are Superman and some singers are Batman. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 4>to say who I feel like a Superman, but I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like in any arena, Brandy is Batman. If you

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<v Speaker 4>give her time to think, because she's a thinker, you'll

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<v Speaker 4>never predict where she's coming from.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just where she where she knows.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not you know, everybody got their Pentatonic said, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they can do those things that are just natural.

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<v Speaker 3>But Brandy, where she goes, you just can never predict that.

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<v Speaker 3>So how can you be prepared for that?

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like you know, but it's all from the

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<v Speaker 1>house of Kim. Yeah, so Kim built the house. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Dark is said the same thing. Do I have

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<v Speaker 1>a video? I'm going to say he said the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Kim built the house that they all live in. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>get if they all get a floor? Yeah, Kim built

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<v Speaker 1>the house. Yeah, she built the ho I have. I

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<v Speaker 1>just have a floor in the house. Kim, Kim built

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<v Speaker 1>my house. In between John and then and then Isaac.

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<v Speaker 3>And nobody gives Isaac his props.

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<v Speaker 1>Us to watch Isaac on VHS whow singing with New Life, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>every day him and Loel how are they doing that?

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<v Speaker 3>And how niggas do it to?

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<v Speaker 1>You study the niggas, study and all their parts? What

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<v Speaker 1>about fred Hammon Monster? That's that's so my period of

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<v Speaker 1>not running, I study Fred.

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<v Speaker 3>Hammon, Tony s He's so how people look at Kim

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<v Speaker 3>Tony's out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's anything Tony can do.

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<v Speaker 4>And the mixing, I learned that I had never known

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<v Speaker 4>a male singer to appear like they're belting that high.

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<v Speaker 4>It was almost like he kind of showed and those

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<v Speaker 4>so where like when I hear avery or sometimes I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like when I do it, or like other singers,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, you know what I mean, It's just I

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<v Speaker 4>don't I can't find that prior to Tony, I can't

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<v Speaker 4>maybe Darrel, but Daryl was.

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<v Speaker 1>In full all the way or was he mixing too?

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<v Speaker 1>I think Daryl was full.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think Daryl was full. There was full chest

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<v Speaker 4>Daryl coldly I'm talking about yeah, full chess.

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<v Speaker 1>Now's a CARDI surprised me. I was like, how are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing that that high? He's mixing right, he's mixing, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's mixing cold.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a smoo. We're not taking nothing away.

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<v Speaker 1>He's mixing so cold. I tried it. When that's it. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have it. I don't I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have that at the end of heart record full Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've drank too much. Patron at this point, you

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<v Speaker 1>can still do it. No no, no, absolutely not even no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>don't have that. That's full right full, So I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>got it no more. You come to see that, good luck,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll hire you. You bring that pink hair out.

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<v Speaker 3>Nigga, y'all see me with that pink here, run turn

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<v Speaker 3>the bikes off, cut the cut the power.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh okay, let's build a vultron. Okay, your ultimate, your

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<v Speaker 1>super r and b artists. I want to know where

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to get the vocal from one vocal, the

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<v Speaker 1>performance style, the styling, the passion of the artists, and

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to write for the artists.

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<v Speaker 3>This is good.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the best one I've ever gotten. Princess styling

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<v Speaker 4>vocal vocals of course, Whitney. Fuck yeah, I don't even

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<v Speaker 4>have them saying, uh, the styling, Prince, I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Figure. You're gonna say that performance style fu okay you cook? Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Passion, oh, passion, passion, passion, Michael mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>You say that, nigga. Yeah, it's all it was electric,

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<v Speaker 1>just you felt that what is happening?

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<v Speaker 3>He wanted don't play people who fight like that? Didn't

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<v Speaker 3>till jo jot bit and let's don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I know those bubbles? Well, who's writing for the artist?

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<v Speaker 3>Babyface? Yeah yeah, I actually want to hear.

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<v Speaker 6>That, like.

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<v Speaker 1>I need I need a baby Face written song. You

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<v Speaker 1>can get that. No, I'm just I'm just saying it

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<v Speaker 1>out loud on the loud speaker so that so that

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<v Speaker 1>the people can tag him when they watch this.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that it hasn't happened already, act like he

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<v Speaker 3>can't call it no no, no, no no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Different kind of pressure on him. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not as a friend called your friends. He amy

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<v Speaker 1>I need to sign something.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Face really be on the ground like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But okay, I think it's gonna get to him. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>get to him, A ricas, don't get to him. The

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<v Speaker 1>Tank say he wants a baby Face written song, not

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<v Speaker 1>no Tank involved. I know nothing when Face did Ronie

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<v Speaker 1>or Face did? I want that.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to be at that session just I won't

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<v Speaker 3>even say nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to watch line me up and sing

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<v Speaker 1>the backgrounds say less it don't it don't work if

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<v Speaker 1>baby Face ain't in the backgrounds. Shoot a do you do?

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<v Speaker 3>I want to hear that. What what with the bridge

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<v Speaker 3>and the chords changing in the pree and then the

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<v Speaker 3>bridge that changes keys?

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<v Speaker 1>He's a colst mm hmmm mm hm. But you got that?

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on? I like that better. I ain't saying no nicks. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't saying no nick Come on, I ain't saying

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<v Speaker 1>no nigs. I ain't saying no niggas. Where you was

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<v Speaker 1>we used?

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<v Speaker 3>What you need?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't say she. I ain't saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah, we hear now you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>seen no what he was looking at me like it

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<v Speaker 2>he turned up, he turned out.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to that church.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, wow, I can't even play with that church.

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<v Speaker 1>Got second second, We.

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<v Speaker 2>Had a very important segment. That's what you tell us

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<v Speaker 2>a story funny or fucked up? Are funny and fucked

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<v Speaker 2>up during your time in this music business. The only

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<v Speaker 2>rulee to the game is you can't say no names.

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<v Speaker 1>The only rule. Mm hmm okay, okay, that one quick.

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<v Speaker 3>People, people, this is the craziest thing I've ever witnessed.

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<v Speaker 4>But if the people watching this, the artist watching this,

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<v Speaker 4>there was so many people in this from will know

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<v Speaker 4>exactly what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>I was at a popular party in Miami.

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<v Speaker 4>On New Year's and I was with a very popular

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<v Speaker 4>singer and uh, there was a rapper in the room

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<v Speaker 4>who had just kind of the singer felt like the

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<v Speaker 4>rapper took like unnecessarily jabs at her throughout her career,

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<v Speaker 4>and she just didn't know where it was coming from.

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<v Speaker 4>And we're talking to the we're having a conversation about it,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, everybody in the rooms like maybe it's

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<v Speaker 4>in your head, maybe it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that you know.

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<v Speaker 4>But she's like, I don't necessarily want to have any issues,

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<v Speaker 4>and maybe I'm in my head, so this is why

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<v Speaker 4>just when we're around each.

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<v Speaker 3>Other, I just don't speak.

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<v Speaker 4>The rapper comes in the room, so now I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 4>it firsthand. The rapper comes in the room and addresses

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<v Speaker 4>everybody but her mm hm. And now she's irritated because

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<v Speaker 4>she's had enough, so she says, come on, man, every time,

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<v Speaker 4>and the rapper says every time?

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<v Speaker 1>What every time?

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna just act like you don't see me every time.

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<v Speaker 4>At this point, I'm thinking the rapper is gonna say,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I'm so sorry understanding that.

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<v Speaker 3>Bars the rapper walks up, it says, because I don't

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<v Speaker 3>see you. This singer ain't for the play play, so

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<v Speaker 3>she just needed permission to really take it there the street.

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<v Speaker 3>She said, well, fuck you looking like an uncooked sausage.

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<v Speaker 4>You just don't know how to not handle you just

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<v Speaker 4>you just don't know how to handle not being the

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<v Speaker 4>badest bitch when you walk into the room. At this point,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I'm about to get jumped because I can't

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<v Speaker 4>hit with her.

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus.

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<v Speaker 4>It got so bad that I'm like, let's go outside

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<v Speaker 4>because we're about to get joke, but then the rapper

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<v Speaker 4>ends up coming out and just apologizing and saying it

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<v Speaker 4>was a misunderstanding. But to me, if you guys knew

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<v Speaker 4>the people in this room and this take up because

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<v Speaker 4>I'm at this party, I'm not. I've always had an

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<v Speaker 4>old soul. So around ten pm, I'm ready to go

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<v Speaker 4>to sleep. Even when I was like twenty one, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>ready to go to sleep. I can't really keep up

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<v Speaker 4>with everybody. So this took place as I'm half asleep,

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<v Speaker 4>so I'm waking up to World War three, Like, wait,

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<v Speaker 4>what's happening? Why are you fighting with this nigga? So

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<v Speaker 4>that might be the craziest thing I've ever witnessed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I don't see you, I thought it.

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<v Speaker 4>Was over then, But I should have never estimated the

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<v Speaker 4>person I was with, because she was gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Take it there.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like with thennis On.

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<v Speaker 3>Walk in the room was like, yikes, now this.

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<v Speaker 1>Fight this whole thing, I don't care who fight. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't fight. It was able to get squashed.

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<v Speaker 3>They apologized, but I was ready to do my special

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<v Speaker 3>move because once I get you in the here, like.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta go.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm a fan of the raffer. It's very well

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<v Speaker 4>understood of Florida. Once Red gets you in the here like,

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<v Speaker 4>you're not coming out of it. So I was gonna

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<v Speaker 4>jump high off of something, bring him low and then

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<v Speaker 4>let God handle the rest.

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<v Speaker 1>But you, man, you're the headlock, specially if.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not getting out of it. It's a monkey grip.

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<v Speaker 1>Just prepare for the worst hold on it of all

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<v Speaker 1>the bar fight moves to heaven. Your report, yours is

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<v Speaker 1>the headlock.

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<v Speaker 3>You never feel me.

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<v Speaker 4>You hold on and you let the word themselves out

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<v Speaker 4>trying to get out of it. I just I just

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<v Speaker 4>want to say, and you throw a windmill in there

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<v Speaker 4>every now and then. That's a horrible.

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<v Speaker 3>Impial slide. We slipping and sliding like a tree.

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<v Speaker 1>Daddy treated record, especially while you're going like were you

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<v Speaker 1>going right here with the with the basic one?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm putting to sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>You are getting this full d d T.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody did slam me on my head.

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<v Speaker 1>You're getting this. You're getting this over the shoulders, suplex.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to hurt you more than it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>hurt me.

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<v Speaker 4>And the nigga was your side. He slammed me on

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<v Speaker 4>my head. That's my person never gets outs how it happened,

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<v Speaker 4>but I gotta put him in head like a glass.

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<v Speaker 1>We're glass. You became a singer, and he helped calm

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<v Speaker 1>your spirit. I can see it now.

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<v Speaker 3>This second time I was, I knew his move on

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<v Speaker 3>the w w. Oh no, he's going to the headlock.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>The second time I was putting a sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta call it a name that the headlock has

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<v Speaker 1>to have a name. At this point, I'm gonna call

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<v Speaker 1>it the monkey grip. I don't think that's not the one. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>what's monkey grip? Also, let's not do it. Let's just

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<v Speaker 1>I was getting ready to do my special to just

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<v Speaker 1>promote the pillow man. Don't try to choke out rappers.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to because I was actually a fan

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<v Speaker 3>of this rapper.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I'm just imagining you going to the top rope,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to jump off of something to get to the headlines.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a piano by me, so I was gonna

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<v Speaker 3>get on the piano.

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<v Speaker 1>You calculated getting on the piano, and I'm like, we're about.

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<v Speaker 3>To get jumped.

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<v Speaker 1>It was that intense. I can laugh about it, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was so there's no way to get to the

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<v Speaker 1>headlock from the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't have enough room to run and didn't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't need it momentum.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Greg. We have to put him in a

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<v Speaker 1>position somewhere. I wanted to see that. I got to

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<v Speaker 1>see him do it. You have to video you like

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<v Speaker 1>it's leth Bro. Let me just tell you something, Bro again,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said before, you are you are the quality

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<v Speaker 1>than that. That of course our genre. But music music

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<v Speaker 1>needs man and and and thank you for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for continuing for pushing through. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>We all have highs and off hals lows, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know how necessary we are until we get

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of that, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>And you show up on the Army Money podcast and

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<v Speaker 1>I let you know how important Climax was to me

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<v Speaker 1>as a singer, songwriter, producer, as an existence in this

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing. You know what I'm saying, Like, never discount

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<v Speaker 1>that as you as you continue to go through this journey,

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<v Speaker 1>as you continue to get better man and get bigger,

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<v Speaker 1>someone is connected to you that needs what you.

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<v Speaker 4>Do, Bro, that means the most. I just thank y'all

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<v Speaker 4>for extending yall platform. The fact that there is an

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<v Speaker 4>R and B platform. We don't have many, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think that this should inspire people to do more, especially

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<v Speaker 4>since you guys have been in the trenches.

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<v Speaker 3>Like when I hear you talk about it, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 3>gives me chills.

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<v Speaker 4>When I hear you talk about it, it gives me

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<v Speaker 4>chills because the underdogs, like basically we're the template for

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<v Speaker 4>songwriting production, vocal production. A lot of it was just

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<v Speaker 4>me finding when records used to leave, just wanting to

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<v Speaker 4>learn more and study as much as I can so

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<v Speaker 4>to be here. And again I didn't get to meet

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of my heroes. So meeting my heroes in

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<v Speaker 4>a way and then watching people like you guys, or

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<v Speaker 4>even Stevie say I hear you, it's makes I have

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<v Speaker 4>no choice but to be better and to acknowledge certain things.

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<v Speaker 1>And they continue. Yeah, bro, we appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank y'all. Man, man, we appreciate you pulling up. We

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<v Speaker 1>told you we're gonna we're gonna do it. Problem. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do a real episode. Yeah time, Yeah, need time.

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