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Speaker 1: R and B Money.

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Speaker 2: We are.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, take about the child. We are the authority on

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Speaker 1: all things R and B. Ladies and gentlemen. My name

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Speaker 1: is Tank, Get down time. This is the R and

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Speaker 1: B Money Podcast. How am I talking about the authority?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: On all things who R and B and talent? Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about talent. Tell him tell them what else

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Speaker 1: was gonna say? A song? Right? Song writing? Sanging? Sanging? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: yeah yeah? Is your dress twisted? Right? Is your dress

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Speaker 1: tis right? What about your pontalonis yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got you got to let the

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Speaker 2: joints on, you know what I mean, some of the prens.

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Speaker 1: Joints sell velvet be What is this.

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Speaker 3: Man out here with my bros?

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Speaker 1: Man? Man, listen, we we we had a brief you know,

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Speaker 1: I had a brief moment for b E T. And

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Speaker 1: we thank you for you know, stopping by and just

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Speaker 1: giving us a little bit of your time. You know.

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Speaker 1: He was on the move, shaking hands and kissing babies

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Speaker 1: and an honor man placing new records. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. We saw you moving around. People wanted to

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Speaker 1: talk to you. Man.

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Speaker 3: I saw y'all.

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Speaker 4: It came running over bro, like y'all are my favorite,

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Speaker 4: like this and maybe like two other ones I don't

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Speaker 4: I always was amazed when people watch podcasts.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, y'all could just sit there because I got ADHD.

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Speaker 1: And but don't have eighty HDAR. There's no such thing

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Speaker 1: as ADHD diagnosed. How you gonna tell him? There is

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Speaker 1: no such thing ASHD? He got c D the making

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Speaker 1: up ship medicine. Don't take it. You may have focus issues,

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Speaker 1: for sure, but that can be fixed if you want

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Speaker 1: it fixed, fix it right now. But listen. If you

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Speaker 1: are okay within your operating system, if it is working

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Speaker 1: for you, then there's no need to change. It is

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Speaker 1: working for me.

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Speaker 4: And this podcast it may be like one other one

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Speaker 4: I could sit through. And so when I saw y'all,

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Speaker 4: I came running over. It was like, oh, this's a lie.

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Speaker 4: I almost knocked Josh Levi over, is it?

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Speaker 1: LEVI love.

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Speaker 3: Knocked him over to get to y'all.

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Speaker 4: Not intentionally, you know, But it's a war room in

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Speaker 4: that thing, you know what.

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Speaker 1: We I don't even think we were be even paying

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Speaker 1: a idea to what was going on. We had no idea.

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Speaker 1: We were just was lou Louba was there and they

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Speaker 1: was just and they were just coordinating it. And so

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Speaker 1: we were just sitting there and people would just come

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Speaker 1: in and we just you know, do the do the thing.

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Speaker 1: And then afterwards he was like, do you know, do

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Speaker 1: you have any interviewers today? I was like, Hey, we'd

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Speaker 1: about about what fifteen about ten fifties? Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: Maybe they were like twenty.

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Speaker 2: Eight something crazy and it was there were people which

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Speaker 2: we found out later couldn't yah, yeah, that couldn't give

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Speaker 2: to us. And we had no idea because we kind

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Speaker 2: of That's the other thing too, we didn't really look up.

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Speaker 1: We just kind of just stayed locked in.

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Speaker 2: We didn't really walk around much, so we didn't really

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Speaker 2: house thing went. And that was our first time doing it,

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Speaker 2: so we're just thinking, oh, they just have stuff set

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Speaker 1: We didn't know that there was like lines for me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because one of the one of the around the whole thing, one.

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Speaker 2: Of the ladies from from BT came up to me

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Speaker 2: next day.

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Speaker 1: She was like, do you realize.

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Speaker 2: That people were waiting for you guys to uh to

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Speaker 2: interview them?

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Speaker 1: I was like hell no.

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Speaker 2: I was like, it was like, you know, there's a

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Speaker 2: bunch of with all due respect, it was a lot

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Speaker 1: I was like no. She was like no.

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Speaker 2: People were like, okay, yeah, we'll get to them, but

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Speaker 2: you know we can do our R and B money,

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Speaker 2: And I was like, that's authority.

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Speaker 3: For And it was was irritating. Was it was rappers

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't go on to Joe but.

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Speaker 1: To Joe, but you can Joe loves.

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Speaker 4: Actually, somebody came up to me after I got done

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Speaker 3: He was like, Hey, your name is on the whiteboard

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Speaker 3: for Joe, but.

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Speaker 1: You absolutely Joe.

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Speaker 4: I'll be feeling the way because R and B. I

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Speaker 4: just feel like we get the short end of the stick.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 3: They sample us for hip hop.

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Speaker 4: Okay, they mimic us for pop, very true, but then

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Speaker 4: they put us down here. But we don't get the opportunities.

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Speaker 4: They get all the benefits without the responsibility that we have.

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Speaker 4: We got to go to church, we learn how to

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Speaker 4: sing in church, We care about chors, we learn about progressions,

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Speaker 4: we're doing harmonies and everything, and they get to do

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Speaker 4: it bare minimum and get the like.

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Speaker 3: You were saying, when you have fifteen hundred dollars in

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Speaker 4: They get the lives, they get the cars, they get

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Speaker 4: to take care of their families are certain time, they

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Speaker 4: get the accolades, and they celebrate us in the shadows,

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Speaker 4: and that bothers me a lot.

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Speaker 2: I think for us, and this is my opinion. I

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Speaker 2: think for us, it's more so about.

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Speaker 1: I feel like R and B.

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Speaker 2: And I've said this before, we have jazz moments, we

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Speaker 2: have this. You know, a lot of people in R

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Speaker 2: and B that are really good at it have this elitist,

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Speaker 2: you know, vibe about R and B. And they don't

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Speaker 2: make it as digestible to the world, and they're not

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Speaker 2: willing sometimes to do all of the things. You know,

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Speaker 2: as far as making a certain type of record, doing

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Speaker 2: certain type of collaborations, you know what I mean, performing

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Speaker 2: at you know, different places that will open up, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. As far as how I said,

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Speaker 2: as far as them being embraced on a major scale,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't crazy. So a lot of the machines that

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much. So we had a lot

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Speaker 2: like fell into their space, right And I feel like

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Speaker 2: Tank is a testament to all of that, because he

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Speaker 2: you know the quote unquote underrated thing. He's really talented.

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Speaker 2: But but but and then me and him had time,

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Speaker 2: I mean multiple meetings about like, Okay, how do we

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Speaker 2: how do we figure this thing out?

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Speaker 3: I saw when the shift happened, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: But there has to be a shift. Yeah, there has

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Speaker 2: to be a shift. You have to put yourself on

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Speaker 2: different platforms. You have to you gotta go do corporate events,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. You can't sometimes you gotta

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Speaker 2: take less. You might be a guy that charges fifty

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Speaker 2: one hundred thousand show. But there may be some things

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Speaker 2: that you tried at some you know for you know

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Speaker 2: that would be greater later for you. Oh, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: take fifteen to night. But there are a lot of

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Speaker 2: people that's like, ah my fee and I got But hey,

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Speaker 2: that room that you're gonna perform in now has sponsors,

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Speaker 2: has brand partnerships. Now you're looking at it from a

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Speaker 2: different thing. And I feel like in R and B,

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Speaker 1: I actually just say, guys, because the girls, well, the

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Speaker 1: girls are able to live free. They get into it.

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Speaker 3: Where can they live free?

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Speaker 1: Because it's okay to be emotional as a woman still,

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Speaker 1: and women share that, like they share that emotion universally,

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Speaker 1: like dudes don't really share a whole lot with dudes

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Speaker 1: like they're cool, Like they don't really they don't really

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Speaker 1: be like, Okay, I'm fucking with it. But women have

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Speaker 1: always been champions of each other in one way or another,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He asked you, like, do

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Speaker 1: you think that's changing? I don't know. I think it's

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Speaker 1: I think a guy named Bennie Madeenas told me, he said,

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Speaker 1: if you want to make a big record, you can

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Speaker 1: make a big record. So you have all the tools

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Speaker 1: to make a big record. You're just making the record

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Speaker 1: you want to make. You're just living in the space

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Speaker 1: you want to live in. We're all, like he said,

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Speaker 1: we all because we do this in a certain way.

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Speaker 1: Miles Davis shit and just play our trumpet. We do

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Speaker 1: it all the time because because we're fulfilled by by

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Speaker 1: honoring the gift at its height, exactly, we are fulfilled.

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Speaker 3: No one cares what's the story.

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Speaker 1: But at a certain point we gotta we gotta move

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Speaker 1: right past that word music and get to the business

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Speaker 1: right as I'm making as I'm as I'm venturing into

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Speaker 1: music business. How do I sell some fucking records? How

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Speaker 1: do I get on mainstream radio? How? Because it's there's

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Speaker 1: there's a how. You know that, there's a fucking how.

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Speaker 1: You've got the other people in on the fucking platform?

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Speaker 3: No you preaching?

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Speaker 4: I was in a relationship, man, And then I remember

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Speaker 4: one time Sam Smith DMed me and there was a

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Speaker 4: song I had. It wasn't like doing well, but it

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Speaker 4: was I loved the song and he was like, man,

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Speaker 3: This record and I'm listening to it in my guarden.

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Speaker 4: And I showed it to her because she loved Sam

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Speaker 4: this is crazy, like at lista and she was like,

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Speaker 4: favorite singer's favorite singer shit and be the world's favorite

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Speaker 4: artist and that.

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Speaker 3: Like I like that hurt me so bad.

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Speaker 4: But I had to realize, like, yeah, like that don't

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Speaker 3: What is the story?

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Speaker 4: If eighty thousand records come out of day, why are

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Speaker 4: people going to care about me?

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Speaker 3: And that's what with this album.

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Speaker 4: I just was like I wanted to quit, and I

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Speaker 4: was just like, tell your story if it's your last chance,

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Speaker 4: you know, like when you're about to get fired from

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Speaker 4: the job.

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Speaker 1: I don't like y'all.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, this is what this album was for me, cause

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Speaker 4: it's like and I said, you know what, I came

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Speaker 4: to say I could sing, because I felt like we

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Speaker 3: I start plubing. Yeah, that's what. That's what I come back.

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Speaker 3: And that's transcending race culture because that's Olympics.

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Speaker 2: Music is almost one of the only things that the

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Speaker 2: I'm paying attention. We don't do that with our music

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Speaker 3: That's exactly what we were thinking about when we did

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we sold more vinyls than we did digital already.

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Speaker 2: We have to make music collectors are people and ourselves right, like,

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Speaker 3: That's a harsh reality that a lot of people don't

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Speaker 1: That's the other side of it. They complain about it.

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Speaker 2: You just keep doing keeping until they like one, until

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Speaker 1: This label gave up on you. You can put out

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Speaker 2: She got to it, gotten to it was a nasty girl.

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Speaker 4: So when he called me up, he was like, this

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00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 4: is crazy. So she's like, please let me do an

441
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 4: album with your son. And she's an album.

442
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 3: An album you wanted to do a church album with me?

443
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 3: And my mom was like my son. So she's like, oh,

444
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 3: this is part of the spell that they put on

445
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 3: my circle. She's like, oh, you went part of it?

446
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 3: What kind of sorcery? So she was like okay.

447
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 4: So he started working with me and training me, and

448
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 4: that's where it all started. I never was told I

449
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 4: was good at anything. I was a problem child.

450
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: So you were so you go to this church. You remember,

451
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: name was the name of chur I.

452
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 3: Don't remember the church, but I don't remember. His name

453
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 3: was mister Nickerson. And it starts with him, starts with him.

454
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 4: And every day when everybody would go to after care

455
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,439
Speaker 4: and like you know, play cards, she would pick me

456
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 4: up and drop me off at the church. So he

457
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 4: was like my basically my after care teacher and just started.

458
00:23:52,760 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: Teaching you how to sing. Yes, that's crazy. Yeah.

459
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 4: And when I started singing the solos, when I was

460
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 4: ready to sing the solos, I remember one of the

461
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 4: songs was a Lot of the World, and I watched

462
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 4: people cry like I'm just like music can do that

463
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 4: to people, Like I don't want to do this.

464
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 3: I want to heal people.

465
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 4: Because I was so used to breaking people's hearts, like

466
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 4: not in a I wasn't in a romantic relationship. I

467
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 4: was a kid, but like I was so used to

468
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 4: being a disappointment. I felt like I was a disappointment.

469
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 4: It was almost like Ferris Bueller, like every time I

470
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,479
Speaker 4: come around, like, oh my god, don't hang out with him.

471
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 3: He gonna fight, He's gonna be in trouble.

472
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 1: He was a badass kid.

473
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 3: I was bad. Like they used to call me Red

474
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 3: because I had all these red bruises on me. That

475
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 3: was my nickname Red.

476
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 4: And yeah, that was the first time people looked at

477
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 4: me and saw hope. I felt like I had a purpose,

478
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 4: I could be something.

479
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: So do you feel okay?

480
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 2: So do you feel like a part of that was

481
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 2: you coming over from the dr of like being immersed

482
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,719
Speaker 2: into this new American culture that you didn't really know

483
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 2: how to be.

484
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 4: I feel like my biological father and this is I'm

485
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 4: just not able to talk about this, and I because

486
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 4: I had a fear of him watching it and being

487
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 4: disappointed in me.

488
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 3: But I just feel like he kind of programmed me to.

489
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 4: Basically, he just made it seem like the only way

490
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 4: I would fail him is if I ever ever let

491
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 4: somebody else be a father figure to me while being

492
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 4: absent in my life. So anytime that some an authoritive,

493
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 4: if anybody spoke to me with any authority, I rejected it.

494
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 3: M So, if you was my friend and you told

495
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 3: me what to do, I want to fight you.

496
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 4: If you was a teacher, nobody, I don't got to

497
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 4: do it because my dad told me the only way

498
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 4: I would disappoint him is if I ever let another

499
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 4: father figure or another man be a father figure to me.

500
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 1: So that just created your aggression.

501
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wanted to fight everybody, and you can look

502
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 4: at my mom and I felt like then I was

503
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 4: mad at myself because my mother was my best friend

504
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 4: and the most important woman in the world to me.

505
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 4: But I would always make her pick between me and

506
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 4: her boyfriends or whoever, because my dad told me, like

507
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 4: anybody that she brings home is the enemy, and being

508
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,479
Speaker 4: a great mother, she would always choose me.

509
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 3: I could. I sometimes felt the friction, like not again,

510
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 3: don't make me do this.

511
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:17,719
Speaker 4: But I would always yeah when it's heartbreaking, Yeah, it

512
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 4: is like when I think about it. So that's why

513
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 4: I just try to give her everything, Like I just

514
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 4: catch after her some money yesterday because I.

515
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 3: Really feel guilty. My sister's like, why are you spoiling her?

516
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 4: And I just feel like I took her youth, like

517
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 4: because my father, I remember when he was dropping me

518
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 4: off at her house when she won custody of me.

519
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 4: He was like, the only way you could disappoint me, son,

520
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 4: is if you ever call another man father. And as

521
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 4: a kid, I looked like him and everything, like I

522
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 4: was like bad, Like it's just like you're programming like

523
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 4: a robot. He doesn't have information, like like you.

524
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 3: Know, you think you my daddy. I'm a lash out.

525
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 4: So through that I found healing in the church and

526
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 4: just my relationship with God. It just mellowed me out

527
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 4: a little bit. When I was saying, I would be like, oh,

528
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 4: I don't got to be the problem, got to fight everybody.

529
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 4: Everybody ain't after me, like this music can heal me?

530
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: You know, when did you realize that that you actually

531
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: did have a gift, Like it wasn't just it wasn't

532
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: just this church thing or the guy showing you how

533
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: to do a certain thing. It was something that you

534
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: actually had in you that was special.

535
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 4: When there was a talent show that was happening, So

536
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 4: now my stepfather.

537
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: Enters my life. Okay around what age is this.

538
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 3: Is around like twelve? Stepfather enters my life.

539
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 4: And there was a talent show and I would just sing,

540
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 4: we can't be friends with this girl named Norma big girl,

541
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 4: so you know she.

542
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 3: Was hollering.

543
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 4: There were coxs part, come off, I had to do

544
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 4: RLS part and your key and it came at in

545
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 4: our high school. When it comes down to the last

546
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 4: two they couldn't decide and you had to do like

547
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 4: sing offs.

548
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 3: And my stepfather was an audience and he was like,

549
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 3: you know you. I always thought you could be a single,

550
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 3: but I didn't know if you had to fight in you.

551
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 4: He was like, when it came down to y'all two,

552
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 4: he was like, I saw a fire in your eyes.

553
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 3: He was like, come on. He took me to the story.

554
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 4: He bought me Brandy's album, he brought me your album.

555
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 4: He brought me everybody's album. He's like, who's your favoriteartist?

556
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 4: I told him, and he was like, study these people,

557
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 4: but study their careers, go look at their live performances.

558
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 3: Like He's like, you have a chance at this. And

559
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 3: I was like, but how are we gonna find a

560
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 3: record label? You don't know what record labels? And I

561
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 3: always remember he said this, He said, if you do

562
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 3: anything well enough, they will come find you. Yeah, And

563
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 3: we did it, and Atlantic call every kid.

564
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 4: And that's how I end up doing a development deal

565
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 4: and how I'm at.

566
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 3: Trey because then I moved.

567
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: At this point, now I'm like fourteen, okay, oh you

568
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: get a call from Atlantic at fourteen?

569
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 3: They DM me on my space. Also, they hit me

570
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 3: to be in Pretty Ricky. This is great.

571
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: Baby Blue hit me you in Florida.

572
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 3: I'm in Florida.

573
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 4: But now my space is like the thing and I'm

574
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 4: posting my own original music and I get a.

575
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 3: DM from Baby Blue.

576
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 4: From Pretty Ricky, He's like a pleasure had just left

577
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 4: the group around that time, and I'm like, I don't

578
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 4: know if y'all know, because back then, like you know,

579
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 4: Florida niggas, like I had like a part in my

580
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 4: head and shit like that. So like there was like

581
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 4: come out just for being to be Pretty Ricky. So

582
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 4: I'm like, is this a joker? I was like, Dad,

583
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 4: can you drive me to Miami? So he drove me

584
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 4: to Miami. We go, and they're looking at.

585
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: Me like you a kid, they're twenty.

586
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 4: I like team, but I don't think they knew how

587
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 4: young I was. I just was putting up music online.

588
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 4: I'm virtually unknown, and so I'm half Dominicans, so like

589
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 4: I had a mustache in the third grade, Like even

590
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 4: if you look at my own fatures, I have faced

591
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 4: smoking cigarettes and lunch.

592
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: Look, look, look it's not what you think. Baby.

593
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 3: I know Dominican where it's pleasure because I'm like, what

594
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 3: y'all broke up? I didn't know none of this. I

595
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 3: didn't It wasn't out that pleasure left the group broke up.

596
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 4: No, it was like your audition would be if we

597
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 4: get there, baby Blue in swinst the door and I

598
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 4: now looking back, they knew immediately, like what the fuck

599
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 4: is going on?

600
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: But they still let me sing and.

601
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: Everything, Oh.

602
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 4: Y, yeah you sing this, And it was just like

603
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 4: comical because I was like a kid saying you.

604
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: Got me feeding That is great.

605
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 4: So left there that that obviously didn't go through. We

606
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 4: all knew what that was going to be, but yeah,

607
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 4: he just really saw it. And then after that Aaron

608
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 4: bay Shock flew.

609
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: He was like are you writing?

610
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 4: Because I was putting up so I was putting up

611
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 4: original music and Aaron hit my dad. He's like are

612
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 4: you no, He's he DM do us and was like

613
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 4: Mike Karen is trying to sign this kid and everybody

614
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 4: Atlantic is looking for this kid.

615
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 3: So he flew down. He was like who's writing these songs?

616
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 4: Though again I'm fourteen, and my dad's like he's writing

617
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 4: them and Aaron's.

618
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: Like you sure?

619
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 3: I don't think he believed it.

620
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, So then it gets the Troy Taylor to develop

621
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 4: me go to uh, I gotta go to school Atlanta.

622
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 4: TTU gotta go to school, and Trey's about to do

623
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 4: the radio album. And even then, Trey's like, I already

624
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 4: told you could sing. He was like, but you can

625
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 4: tell stories and you think that like that's a game.

626
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 4: He was like, that is your gift to you're sleeping

627
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 4: on that gift. And I remember being and.

628
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 3: I remember being so annoyed.

629
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you why I was annoyed because here

630
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 4: I am in a development deal. I'm homeschool now because

631
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 4: I was a freshman and chef Tone and all these

632
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 4: amazing Brian Michael Cox, John T. Austin, Everybody's flying in

633
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 4: to work with Trey. So I'm like, damn, because all

634
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 4: I want to do is sing. So I'm like, damn,

635
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 4: just write me a song. Let me just sing so

636
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 4: I can send something back to Mike so I can.

637
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 3: Get off the bench. And then the Superstarring room is like,

638
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 3: but you can write too, and I'm like, no, I

639
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 3: just want to sing. I'm not sending it.

640
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 4: So they looking at me like I'm not hungry. And

641
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 4: he would always be like Elijah Well, he called me

642
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 4: red at the time too. He's like, you can tell stories.

643
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 4: He's like, if you really get in that bag, you're

644
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 4: gonna be special. And I was like, He's like and

645
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 4: he noticed that. He said every time I'll tell you

646
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 4: that you like, shrug me off. He's like, write me

647
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 4: a song now, and I was like now, he said,

648
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 4: s K put on the beat, and that's the song

649
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 4: that became Jupiter Love.

650
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: That's crazy on the spot. I think it's time at fourteen.

651
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Yes.

652
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 4: So I went from being a starving artist yeah, to

653
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 4: now having like twelve thousand dollars checks in the mail.

654
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 4: I will never forget this, bro. I think, like this

655
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 4: nigga trade, damn, it saved my life. I didn't want

656
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 4: to tell my mom I was starving because as a

657
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 4: Caribbean woman's like, bring your ass back home and go

658
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 4: to college. The church thinks I'm crazy, like letting you

659
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 4: go out there. And I was talking to Tray in

660
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 4: the kitchen one time and he was like, are you anemic?

661
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 4: And I was like, no, why you said that? He

662
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 4: was like, you're shaking. I was so hungry. I didn't

663
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 4: want to tell nobody in the house. I was hungry

664
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 4: I'm shaking. I probably didn't eat for three y's.

665
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: I was already skinny.

666
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 4: I didn't even weigh a hundred pounds, and he didn't

667
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 4: have to because I wasn't signed to him. I wasn't

668
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 4: Ever since that day, when he would be out with

669
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 4: a girl, he'll be on a date. If he just

670
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 4: came back from tour, he'll call me and be like, yo,

671
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 4: I'm at the sports bar and grill what you want.

672
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 4: They got lobsters, and he will always bring me something home.

673
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 4: So things like that like almost make me emotional because

674
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 4: if maybe if I did, I went three days not eating,

675
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 4: but if I probably would have went two more days,

676
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 4: I probably would have gave up and came back home,

677
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And he didn't owe me nothing.

678
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 4: He's never called me and been like, nigga, give me

679
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 4: a free song, you know what I mean?

680
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 3: Like, I bet you that one time NA.

681
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: Records the house and that extra butter Nigga come home.

682
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, And I remember when Sex, Love and Pain

683
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 4: came out and we rolled around to it like so,

684
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, those are the moments where the

685
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 4: music industry so you know how you say you feel

686
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 4: like you knew what you signed up for.

687
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: I didn't know.

688
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: He's also fourteen.

689
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I believed in the dream.

690
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 4: I believe that if you made music good enough and

691
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 4: you were a good person, you would win. My reality,

692
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 4: I'm seeing the bad niggas win. And I saw a

693
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 4: tweet the other day. I was like, damn, somebody said,

694
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 4: what's something that you learned that as doing. Somebody said

695
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 4: there is no reward for being a good person.

696
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: I don't agree with that.

697
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 4: I don't say that, but I think I'm seeing the

698
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 4: reward now. It might not be right away.

699
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 1: Niggas quit, niggas, quit bro a nigga.

700
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 2: I am a walking as the church guys would say,

701
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: a walking.

702
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: Test talk to talk because because I've seen I've seen

703
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: every part of the music industry.

704
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 2: Literally, I've seen every part of you know, every pitfall,

705
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 2: every door being closed.

706
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: Like literally my family was blackballed in the music business

707
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: for a minute, you know what I mean.

708
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: So seeing how if you just don't quite and you

709
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 2: stay solid, you know what I mean? I was having

710
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 2: I was on the phone with two of my guys

711
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: last night. Man to my boys from Kansas City, that's

712
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 2: that's that's the homies.

713
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: Man and.

714
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: I said, the thing that I'm most proud of in

715
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: my career is that you can run my name through

716
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 2: the whatever you want to.

717
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: It's gonna come back a one Yola, It's coming back.

718
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: It's pure.

719
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,959
Speaker 2: I ain't never fucked nobody over, I ain't never stole

720
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 2: nothing from nobody. I've tried to do nothing but help.

721
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,479
Speaker 2: And God is shining on you now. Could it happen

722
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 2: for me at twenty possibly, But I'm good with it

723
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: happening for me now.

724
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 3: Man, I come when you want them, but He's always

725
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 3: on time on man.

726
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: So like you know, cause I see a lot of

727
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 2: those tweets and those memes and different stuff like that,

728
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: and when I see him, I just kind of laugh

729
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 2: because I'm just.

730
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: Like, it can be greater later, and it will be,

731
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

732
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 2: Like, think about how long we've been in this industry

733
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: and how you know, certain people have only had very

734
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 2: small seasons in it, and how we look up and

735
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, for me, death in and for

736
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 2: Tank like this is decades, decades, decades of the music

737
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 2: bins of I've never done anything else.

738
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's been real ups and real downs. Yeah,

739
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: can you survive them?

740
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 4: A good testament to that is I was telling this

741
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 4: joke and the producer, I know they're watching, and I'm

742
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 4: saying this in light.

743
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: This is not a dig.

744
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 4: But there was a song on my last album and

745
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 4: Priscilla Renee, who I kind of started off just from

746
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 4: Florida to And I've always said, even when we was

747
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 4: making the rounds of songwriters doing six sessions today, I

748
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 4: would always be like that Priscilla is different.

749
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 3: They would aways be like, who do you? I always said,

750
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 3: Priscilla is different.

751
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 6: And.

752
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 4: You know she had deals with it, didn't, you know,

753
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 4: doll houses where it didn't pay off. And one time

754
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,959
Speaker 4: we were working on Keisha actually and she was playing

755
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 4: me her music. She was like, I'm gonna try this

756
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 4: one more time. And we were like texting each other,

757
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 4: like what can we do hire marketing things because you know,

758
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 4: now you got a little backstash from writing songs.

759
00:36:59,600 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

760
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 3: So she's like, I'm just gonna go for it. I'm

761
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 3: like I'm going forward too.

762
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 4: So she plays her album and I play with my

763
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 4: album and there's a song called dark Skin. I was like,

764
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 4: I would love to have you on this record. She

765
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 4: was like, I love this song. Can I get on it.

766
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 4: So I send her the file. She sends it right back.

767
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 4: She's like, I'm going in with cook. So I'm like, oh,

768
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 4: you're smart, like you putting out an independent project, but

769
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 4: you going to cook.

770
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 3: You know, like how did you know what you spending?

771
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 3: So the quality is going to be there.

772
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 4: So she sends it back and then the song now

773
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 4: has her myself, D Smoke and Duran Bernard. So I'm

774
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 4: playing the record and then so and there's a there's

775
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 4: somebody that's a part of the project. It was just like, damn,

776
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 4: the song's too long, Like we got to cut somebody

777
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 4: at the time. You know, it's D Smoke. He's popping,

778
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 4: so it's like you got to take the girl off

779
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 4: at the end.

780
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 3: Who's the girl off? I'm like, that's money, she's fire.

781
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 3: He's like, she gotta go.

782
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 4: I was like, bro, I don't care if that song

783
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 4: five minutes long. She's not coming off that record like

784
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 4: she's incredible. And I was like, it's a song about

785
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 4: dark skin is a chocolate woman. Like I'm just I'm

786
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 4: so sick of that, you know what I mean?

787
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: Like so uh, and.

788
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 3: I'm not chocolate enough to care. The record by myself

789
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 3: it's so bro.

790
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 4: A week later, hours and hours go crazy. I call

791
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 4: that same person up I sent him. He's like, yes,

792
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 4: you are Bro.

793
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 3: I said, you remember that girl you said take off

794
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 3: the record?

795
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: That's her.

796
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 4: And I just that's just the most beautiful Victorian Monett.

797
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 4: I feel like we are in that season where.

798
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 3: Like we were. I think I started this when I

799
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 3: spoke to y'all.

800
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 4: I look back at it and I'm like, damn, I

801
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 4: really got to get got to get a master class

802
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 4: from Usher. We were up there for two months working

803
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 4: on that project in New York at Jungle City.

804
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: Come on, speak on that project because everybody, everybody may

805
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: not know. Yeah, so this is this is the platform

806
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 2: to tell him what it is.

807
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: Man.

808
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 4: Lusha was working on looking for myself. I was the

809
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 4: least qualified in that room. Diplo was going crazy with

810
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 4: the Beyonce Run the World. Usher's Usher Miguel was coming

811
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 4: in and out, and I literally was like, why do

812
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 4: these niggas have me here? Like is this Mark Pitts

813
00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 4: just like really just trying to help me? Like this

814
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 4: pists got a heart like that? Or does us know

815
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 4: what I could do that?

816
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 3: He did? He asked me to be.

817
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 4: Here personally, and I just remember just like sometimes should

818
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 4: I speak up, should I say anything? So I would

819
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 4: try to come to the studio before like anybody got

820
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 4: there to just kind of get my ideas off so

821
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 4: that if Usher heard it, he would like it. And

822
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 4: how we really bond it was through connect For and

823
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 4: I think just how good I was at connect For.

824
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 4: I think he was able to be like, Okay, this

825
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 4: guy's actually intelligent, but he's so smart, Like I see

826
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 4: why him and Beyonce have had the longevity that he

827
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 4: watched me play and played me long enough to study

828
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 4: how I played, and he's one of the first people

829
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 4: to ever beat me and connect For, like, that's like

830
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 4: one of my superpowers.

831
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: Is my superpower?

832
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 4: I'm damning like unbeatable thing, Okay, And he told me

833
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 4: he was like, I know who could get you.

834
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 3: He's like Beyonce and gets you.

835
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 4: So there's like I don't know, there's there's something, but

836
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 4: I feel like that was when the ice broke and

837
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 4: I was able to have that synergy with him to

838
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 4: create a record like Climax, because prior to that we

839
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 4: were just there and I was like trying to do things,

840
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 4: and I remember somebody was like do that a LANDA shit.

841
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not from Atlanta. I just lived in

842
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 3: all Side in the trade.

843
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 4: But I learned the moves that he was making when

844
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 4: somebody was walking the room and be like, Hey, we're

845
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 4: gonna rap this tour and hit these markets first, We're

846
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 4: gonna do these I'm like listening because artist development is

847
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 4: not a thing anymore. So now I get to be

848
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 4: exposed and be a fly in the wall with a

849
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 4: legend and understanding. Then one day he just was like,

850
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 4: he was like, what do you listen to it? I'm

851
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 4: like telling him about like I listened to Radiohead and

852
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 4: we're going through songs and he's like playing me Empire

853
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 4: of the Sun and he's like, you want to hear

854
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 4: what didn't make Confessions? So I'm like, yes, I want

855
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 4: to hear yeah, and he's playing me so and I'm like,

856
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 4: oh my god, this is insane. Why didn't this make

857
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 4: the project? And he's like, hmm, the story it was

858
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 4: a great song. This song might be better than this song,

859
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 4: but it would have thrown off the conversation. So now

860
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 4: I'm understanding committing to a body of work and sonically

861
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 4: and just the discipline that takes, and when I look

862
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 4: at money Long, I'm like, Okay, I know you was

863
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 4: back there with Rihanna, just like listening, studying. When I

864
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 4: look at how Victoria's moving, she wants it. You could

865
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 4: tell she wasn't just in the room playing paddy Cake

866
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 4: with Arianna Grande. She she was like, I need that,

867
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 4: and when it's my time, I will be ready.

868
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: And she was so ready.

869
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 4: So I do feel like there's like a an appreciation

870
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 4: now for the singer songwriter because we're the last of

871
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 4: the for the last batch of people to go through

872
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 4: artists development, and we understand the sacrifices that y'all make because.

873
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 3: Now people like, oh, I don't know.

874
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 4: Somebody told me the other day there was like I

875
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 4: brought up somebody to them and they're like, I don't

876
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 4: know who that is. I'm like, you do know as

877
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 4: a musician, oh, I said Stevie Wonder.

878
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, that's before my time. I was like,

879
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 3: that's before my time.

880
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 4: As a musician, it's your job, Like what are you

881
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 4: pulling from?

882
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 3: So you're just gonna pull from?

883
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: Uh, that's a crazy you know what I mean?

884
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: That Steve Wonder, just before you Steve wonders of all time,

885
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 2: of all times.

886
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 4: That makes me so mad. But this is somebody that's

887
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 4: actually pretty successful, right, I get it.

888
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: That's that.

889
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 3: I'm just like that, ain't the flex that you think

890
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: it is? You got to study.

891
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go. I have a saying, and I say,

892
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: I've said this a few times. When Climax was being made,

893
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: there was no better song being made in the universe.

894
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: Wow, bro, what I've heard him say that before about

895
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 2: this song.

896
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: I've heard him. Yes, when you were making that song,

897
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: there was no better song being made in the universe. Wow, bro.

898
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: I was that song dropped. I was shook it.

899
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 4: Bro, that is the highest call I've ever got. And

900
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 4: that's hard to audit that song.

901
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: I had to listen to it over and over and over,

902
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: and I was like, it's perfect.

903
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 3: I didn't think we knew that at the time.

904
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: That's a great song because I'm like a I'm like

905
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: a medium house, R and B, gospel, classical, I'm a

906
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: hybrid of I love fucking music and the meeting, the

907
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: meeting of the worlds in so many different worlds. In

908
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: that one song, it was all perfect. Yeah, yeah, you know.

909
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 4: Mark Pitts came in the room the next day when

910
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 4: we did that record, and he played that record six times,

911
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 4: maybe maybe ten times, and every time you played the

912
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 4: Usher was damn gliding around the studio.

913
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 3: This nigga can dance anything. He was just every time.

914
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 4: I said, oh, they like this record, and Mark Piss said, congratulations,

915
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 4: y'all made a T shirt record. I said, what is

916
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 4: a T shirt record? He said, a song that can

917
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 4: fit everybody. He said, anybody can wear a T shirt.

918
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, But in my head I

919
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 4: didn't understand it because I knew Usher.

920
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So I wanted to get a record that

921
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 3: he could really dance on.

922
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 4: And then when he was like traveling his nat and

923
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 4: I think they were like, yo, as we're playing it,

924
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 4: it's looking like Climax is going to be the single.

925
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 4: I'm like this slow song right now with the Temple,

926
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 4: Calvin Harris and David Ghetto.

927
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: It's not slow, yeah, it's not slow, it's moving like

928
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: it's and his singing on this song right, it's like

929
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: I have a top five of singers and no, no, no,

930
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: and the top ten of singers right and Usher on

931
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: this particular song it's top five.

932
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 3: Wow.

933
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: His performance on climax for me is a top five performance,

934
00:44:55,520 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: whereas in I'm a singer, motherfucker. Yeah for sure, I

935
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 1: wouldn't have sang it like that, Really no, because because

936
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: there's a thing right I could have copied. I can

937
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: copy him because my vibrada is not naturally fast, you

938
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. His shifts like he's the one.

939
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: He's one of those guys like back in those times,

940
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: back in R. Kelly's times, the scatting he was early

941
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: in that. I had to learn that that wasn't originally

942
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: my style, so I'm able to. I learned a lot

943
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: of things and owned a lot of things like they

944
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: were mine, but they weren't. Some things are just ushers,

945
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: they're his, you know what I'm saying. And on that song,

946
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: his ownership of that song, the way you got, the

947
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: way you the way you wrote it, and the way

948
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: it just made sense for him. It's an usher song.

949
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: Oh for sure. I don't hear anybody else say singing

950
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: that song no one.

951
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 4: Which is crazy because when I when that song came

952
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 4: on and then I just got signed to death Jam,

953
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 4: everybody's like, you're so stupid, how could you give that

954
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 4: song to us?

955
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 3: I'm like, y'all don't understand how songwriting works. We made

956
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 3: that song.

957
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 4: I was basically contracted to come to New York and

958
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 4: do a song. And if you know, when you work

959
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 4: with an artist of Usher's caliber, you're caliber. You're not

960
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 4: write anybody who tells the truth in their music. You're

961
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 4: not writing for anybody. You're writing with them, you're telling,

962
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 4: you're helping them illustrate their story where they're at, and

963
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 4: then they're gonna put them in the record. So exactly

964
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 4: what you said, like that was his song from the beginning,

965
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 4: But that's from the conversations we're having. We're talking about

966
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 4: Empire of the Sun, Radiohead, and cold Play like him

967
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 4: and I really love cold Play, like so that that

968
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 4: verse is very cold.

969
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: I went, I went to Vegas. I probably went to

970
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: Vegas you'll like six times. And I'm just waiting for

971
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: Climax and it never happened.

972
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 3: Wow.

973
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say this, and it's a threat. It's

974
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: a threat if Climax is not on the set list

975
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: on this tour, fall it's a problem. Somebody, somebody gonna

976
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: get seen.

977
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 3: And this is not the person to play with a conversation.

978
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, this is a threat. If Climax is not

979
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: in the set list.

980
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 3: And you about this big, my friend, somebody will be seen.

981
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: You know.

982
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 2: I respect it because that's how I felt about Slowly

983
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 2: And I put it back in to put put Slowly back.

984
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: And set I did it. I did it.

985
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 3: You do Please don't go right?

986
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: Yeah you do.

987
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 3: Maybe I'll deserve.

988
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: But you know, Slowly was Slowly was like.

989
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 2: A fan favorite more so than it was like the

990
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 2: chart favorite.

991
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't the art favorite because the niggas

992
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: stole all the money. I saw another day to a

993
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: nigga stole he stole the radio. What what eating a

994
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: dummy company? Yeah? Yeah, this goes to the promotional I

995
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: never knew, my cousin what's getting siphoned, getting worked the

996
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 1: music business. The music one thing I am is aware.

997
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: So if I hear a certain song and they killed

998
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: it and they talking.

999
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 2: About what if Jay Valentine would have Jay Valentine ain't

1000
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 2: gonna go nowhere near.

1001
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 3: Valentine. Nothing.

1002
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 2: Valentine know what he can and can't do. And I'm

1003
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 2: fine with that, you know what I'm saying. And and

1004
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: and to me, arretst should be fine with that. Man

1005
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 2: And should and should find their way to entertained.

1006
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 4: That is your artistry, because even when Tank was like,

1007
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have sung Climax like that.

1008
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 3: I'm over here like, but I'd be interested to see

1009
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 3: how you would.

1010
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 4: Have because it's your artistry, and it's your artistry and

1011
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 4: how you contribute to something.

1012
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 3: You're bringing yourself, your tone, you are approached to it.

1013
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you hear things and you're like, that's the

1014
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: way that should have been. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly how

1015
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: that ship. Don't nobody touch nothing, leave it alone, leave

1016
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: it alone. Well, time to be talented? Yeah, yeah, you're

1017
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: playing that little piano you learned?

1018
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 3: Though, Man, what is this?

1019
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: Take your time? There's normally a speech that goes right here.

1020
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: But the people just want to know what they want

1021
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: to know.

1022
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 3: H fun?

1023
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, your top fun moment, top fun, your top fun

1024
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 6: Harry Easing what all me?

1025
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 3: So? Yeah, we got to know?

1026
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: How did they sow big though.

1027
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 5: You ain't gonna nor Yeah, gime on resolved?

1028
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, borry.

1029
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 3: Your son my god today? Okay, Top five.

1030
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, Elijah Blake your top five R

1031
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: and B singers.

1032
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 4: I'm glad you said R and B singers all right,

1033
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 4: h this is no cap mhmm you tank, Donnie had

1034
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 4: the way Joe Brandy, come on, tough, will be tough?

1035
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 4: Who number five?

1036
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: Though? I think I know who know? Five? Two, three,

1037
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:39,959
Speaker 1: four fifth?

1038
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 3: My surprise.

1039
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: Mariah, Oh, come on right, come on.

1040
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 4: I feel like in terms of being a vocal technician,

1041
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,720
Speaker 4: she's nasty. I think that she doesn't get that credit.

1042
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: You know, you know what she she doesn't get that credit,

1043
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,720
Speaker 1: but only because it lived in such a pop space.

1044
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 4: And that's why being able to write them runs in

1045
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 4: the melodies and get them a pop in that space.

1046
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: Like it's a shot. You think. They don't realize what

1047
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: that is, what it's insane. They don't realize what that is.

1048
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: Like I saw somebody the other day say yeah, but

1049
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: on the ground they ain't can't say. I say, what

1050
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: did you say?

1051
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 3: Jesus name, what.

1052
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: Did you just say? She can't do. I tend to

1053
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: find that.

1054
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 2: Vocalists, especially in our space, get they get knocked down

1055
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 2: vocally when they become more popular. Are they still more records?

1056
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 2: It's like when they speak about boys to men and

1057
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, boys to men was but ain't no

1058
00:52:55,680 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 2: no nothing, there is no like what do you talking

1059
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 2: of cold.

1060
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 3: They were singing in a pop space. They were pop stars.

1061
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: But that's the part in our Yeah, in our space.

1062
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 2: Yes, we look at that like, well, maybe they're not

1063
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 2: as cold because they wasn't keeping it as real.

1064
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: What are you talking about?

1065
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 2: They were taking our music and giving it to the

1066
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 2: world world, Yes, and the highest level.

1067
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: Mariah Carey was giving it to the world at the highest.

1068
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 2: Level and still getting it off to where getting it

1069
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 2: off though, those who know can he getting it off?

1070
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 3: But did you hear what she just did? But the

1071
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 3: kids are singing along, don't.

1072
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: Know what's happened, no idea, what's happening?

1073
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 4: Yes, her and Beyonce do that the best, the best,

1074
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 4: the best. Beyonce sneaks it in just enough to let

1075
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 4: don't play with me if I don't hear it though, like.

1076
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: Because us as runners, we can hear. It's like this,

1077
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 1: she almost look up right there, watch right there? Got crazy.

1078
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, if it's very if I want to, I want.

1079
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: To, I will, Okay, Top five R and B songs,

1080
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 1: Oh so into you to me? Amazing song, amazing song.

1081
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: They easy. I mean, it's it's just it feels like

1082
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 1: summer breeze every.

1083
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 3: Time I got this song. It puts me in a

1084
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 3: good space. Can you stand the rain?

1085
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 1: Why not? Why not? About real song? Right? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, stories.

1086
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 3: And maybe just because dang standing there ain't water runs dry?

1087
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 3: Voice to man a song for you, Donnie Hathaway, And

1088
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 3: I have to say this, Brandy's when.

1089
00:54:53,160 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: You Touch Me talking about getting it off? She getting

1090
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: it off off. Nigga is so many intricate things that

1091
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: she does that feels subtle, and that in itself is

1092
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: a skill. You think it's easy. It is not.

1093
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 6: It is not.

1094
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: It is not sweet. I'd like to hear you don't

1095
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: run up on these notes.

1096
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 3: That's the master class on what to do, when to

1097
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 3: do it, how to do it?

1098
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 1: Can I tell you something? That song for me, she

1099
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: was already like one of my you know, she was

1100
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: already in Bible space for me. That song right there

1101
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:47,439
Speaker 1: just it closed the book on anybody else being able

1102
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: to be that. Who wrote that song? Who wrote When

1103
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 1: You Touch Me? To write that? Yeah? Because that's that's yeah,

1104
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: that's them, That's the dream team.

1105
00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 3: Bro.

1106
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: And I'm listening to this song and I'm like, what

1107
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 1: is happening right now?

1108
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 3: It just keeps getting better and better and better.

1109
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: Am I getting saved? Is the Lord touching me? Is

1110
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: when you touch the touching me?

1111
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 4: Is it?

1112
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: What is happening right now? And I am taking When

1113
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 1: I say.

1114
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 3: Note the harmonies she comes in delicate, then she's full

1115
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 3: belting at the air.

1116
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 4: Well.

1117
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: We have and we have to and we can't look

1118
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: past the musical contribution, dur child, we can't look we

1119
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 1: can't look past the marriage, the perfect marriage of those things.

1120
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: I'm getting chills like that. As soon as the track

1121
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 1: came out, I was like, perfect, who's doing this? That

1122
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: song is incredible? And then she she just said, sit down, kids, yes,

1123
00:56:55,360 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: sit down, pull out your note pets. This is how Yes,

1124
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: you sing a song from top to bottom.

1125
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 3: Yes, now you sang a song.

1126
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 4: That song changed placement, arrangement, everything for me. I think

1127
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,919
Speaker 4: it changed it for everybody. Yeah, Like that's the class

1128
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 4: of Brandy right there.

1129
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: For sure, that is the ultimate master. You said that,

1130
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: You said it right, that was the ultimate Brandy master.

1131
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: I remember what I was doing. I was hosting h

1132
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: R and B lived R and B Live here, and

1133
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: Brandy was was a special guest one night, and and

1134
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: I had never seen dudes like huddle up together like

1135
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: shoulder to shoulder.

1136
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 3: Like she has that effect.

1137
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: I'm talking about my guys, Bob. Everybody was in the

1138
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: corner like.

1139
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 3: She did live, she was.

1140
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: Live performing live. Everybody was everybody was in the corner

1141
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: huddled up like like the musicians corner like that, like.

1142
00:57:58,240 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 3: What's she gonna do next?

1143
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: And she's just sitting on a stool singing and we

1144
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: are sitting we are like in all the entire time,

1145
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: is she the best? Hm? I will say an R

1146
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: and B if we're if we're for that, yes, because

1147
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: because Brandy is a thing. Not Jazmine over over Brandy. No,

1148
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go Brandy. Well, I think

1149
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: Jasmine may have a slight edge on Brandy just in

1150
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: terms of the the hype right right, right, I feel

1151
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: like maybe Jasmine can sing a little higher, yeah, than

1152
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: than than Brandy. Right, But in terms of the dexter

1153
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:05,439
Speaker 1: and the wheelhouse and the difficulty, she might be the best.

1154
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 3: I've asked this the singers at.

1155
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: That because then you go to the other the other

1156
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: bags that include Whitney and Beyonce and Celine Dion right,

1157
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: like those are different kinds of singers in a different

1158
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: type of bag with power right and fall. But but

1159
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: Beyonce can also go.

1160
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 3: Up and stay up.

1161
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: She can do that, so it's like jazzmin too. Brandy's

1162
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: a thing that I feel like Jasmine falls within.

1163
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 3: That's the best answer I thought. I had the best

1164
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 3: answer me and Rodney. You know how to ask.

1165
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 4: I had to ask Rodney. I asked this question to

1166
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 4: singers all day because I want to know. It's always

1167
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 4: Jazmine or Brandy or Beyonce. And I was talking Rodney,

1168
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 4: and uh, I said, you know, I think some singers

1169
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 4: are Superman and some singers are Batman. I'm not going

1170
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 4: to say who I feel like a Superman, but I

1171
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 4: feel like in any arena, Brandy is Batman. If you

1172
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 4: give her time to think, because she's a thinker, you'll

1173
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 4: never predict where she's coming from.

1174
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 3: It's just where she where she knows.

1175
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 4: It's not you know, everybody got their Pentatonic said, oh,

1176
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 4: you know, they can do those things that are just natural.

1177
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 3: But Brandy, where she goes, you just can never predict that.

1178
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 3: So how can you be prepared for that?

1179
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: It's just like you know, but it's all from the

1180
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: house of Kim. Yeah, so Kim built the house. Yeah,

1181
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: Eric Dark is said the same thing. Do I have

1182
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: a video? I'm going to say he said the same thing.

1183
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: Kim built the house that they all live in. Yeah,

1184
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: get if they all get a floor? Yeah, Kim built

1185
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: the house. Yeah, she built the ho I have. I

1186
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: just have a floor in the house. Kim, Kim built

1187
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,959
Speaker 1: my house. In between John and then and then Isaac.

1188
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 3: And nobody gives Isaac his props.

1189
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: Us to watch Isaac on VHS whow singing with New Life, Yeah,

1190
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: every day him and Loel how are they doing that?

1191
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 3: And how niggas do it to?

1192
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: You study the niggas, study and all their parts? What

1193
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: about fred Hammon Monster? That's that's so my period of

1194
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: not running, I study Fred.

1195
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 3: Hammon, Tony s He's so how people look at Kim

1196
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 3: Tony's out there.

1197
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything Tony can do.

1198
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 4: And the mixing, I learned that I had never known

1199
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 4: a male singer to appear like they're belting that high.

1200
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 4: It was almost like he kind of showed and those

1201
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 4: so where like when I hear avery or sometimes I

1202
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 4: feel like when I do it, or like other singers,

1203
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know what I mean, It's just I

1204
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 4: don't I can't find that prior to Tony, I can't

1205
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 4: maybe Darrel, but Daryl was.

1206
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: In full all the way or was he mixing too?

1207
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: I think Daryl was full.

1208
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Daryl was full. There was full chest

1209
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 4: Daryl coldly I'm talking about yeah, full chess.

1210
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: Now's a CARDI surprised me. I was like, how are

1211
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: you doing that that high? He's mixing right, he's mixing, Yeah,

1212
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: but he's mixing cold.

1213
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,439
Speaker 3: It's a smoo. We're not taking nothing away.

1214
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: He's mixing so cold. I tried it. When that's it. No,

1215
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: I don't have it. I don't I don't. I don't

1216
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: have that at the end of heart record full Yeah,

1217
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 1: but I've drank too much. Patron at this point, you

1218
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: can still do it. No no, no, absolutely not even no, no, no,

1219
01:02:56,200 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: don't have that. That's full right full, So I ain't

1220
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: got it no more. You come to see that, good luck,

1221
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: I'll hire you. You bring that pink hair out.

1222
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 3: Nigga, y'all see me with that pink here, run turn

1223
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 3: the bikes off, cut the cut the power.

1224
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: Uh okay, let's build a vultron. Okay, your ultimate, your

1225
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: super r and b artists. I want to know where

1226
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: you're going to get the vocal from one vocal, the

1227
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: performance style, the styling, the passion of the artists, and

1228
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: who's going to write for the artists.

1229
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 3: This is good.

1230
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 4: This is the best one I've ever gotten. Princess styling

1231
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 4: vocal vocals of course, Whitney. Fuck yeah, I don't even

1232
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 4: have them saying, uh, the styling, Prince, I love that.

1233
01:03:53,200 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: Figure. You're gonna say that performance style fu okay you cook? Uh?

1234
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 3: Passion, oh, passion, passion, passion, Michael mm hmm.

1235
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: You say that, nigga. Yeah, it's all it was electric,

1236
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 1: just you felt that what is happening?

1237
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 3: He wanted don't play people who fight like that? Didn't

1238
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 3: till jo jot bit and let's don't.

1239
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: I know those bubbles? Well, who's writing for the artist?

1240
01:04:55,360 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 3: Babyface? Yeah yeah, I actually want to hear.

1241
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 6: That, like.

1242
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 1: I need I need a baby Face written song. You

1243
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 1: can get that. No, I'm just I'm just saying it

1244
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: out loud on the loud speaker so that so that

1245
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: the people can tag him when they watch this.

1246
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 3: The fact that it hasn't happened already, act like he

1247
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 3: can't call it no no, no, no no, no.

1248
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: Different kind of pressure on him. You know what I'm saying.

1249
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 1: It's not as a friend called your friends. He amy

1250
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: I need to sign something.

1251
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 3: I don't.

1252
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: I don't think Face really be on the ground like that.

1253
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:31,439
Speaker 1: But okay, I think it's gonna get to him. Don't

1254
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 1: get to him, A ricas, don't get to him. The

1255
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 1: Tank say he wants a baby Face written song, not

1256
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: no Tank involved. I know nothing when Face did Ronie

1257
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 1: or Face did? I want that.

1258
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 3: I want to be at that session just I won't

1259
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 3: even say nothing.

1260
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 1: I just want to watch line me up and sing

1261
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: the backgrounds say less it don't it don't work if

1262
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 1: baby Face ain't in the backgrounds. Shoot a do you do?

1263
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 3: I want to hear that. What what with the bridge

1264
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 3: and the chords changing in the pree and then the

1265
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 3: bridge that changes keys?

1266
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 1: He's a colst mm hmmm mm hm. But you got that?

1267
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: Hold on? I like that better. I ain't saying no nicks. Hey,

1268
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,439
Speaker 1: I ain't saying no nick Come on, I ain't saying

1269
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: no nigs. I ain't saying no niggas. Where you was

1270
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 1: we used?

1271
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 3: What you need?

1272
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: Don't say she. I ain't saying.

1273
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:58,439
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah, we hear now you didn't

1274
01:06:58,440 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 2: seen no what he was looking at me like it

1275
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 2: he turned up, he turned out.

1276
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: Back to that church.

1277
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, wow, I can't even play with that church.

1278
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: Got second second, We.

1279
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 2: Had a very important segment. That's what you tell us

1280
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 2: a story funny or fucked up? Are funny and fucked

1281
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 2: up during your time in this music business. The only

1282
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 2: rulee to the game is you can't say no names.

1283
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: The only rule. Mm hmm okay, okay, that one quick.

1284
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 3: People, people, this is the craziest thing I've ever witnessed.

1285
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 4: But if the people watching this, the artist watching this,

1286
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 4: there was so many people in this from will know

1287
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 4: exactly what happened.

1288
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 3: I was at a popular party in Miami.

1289
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 4: On New Year's and I was with a very popular

1290
01:07:56,240 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 4: singer and uh, there was a rapper in the room

1291
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 4: who had just kind of the singer felt like the

1292
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:09,439
Speaker 4: rapper took like unnecessarily jabs at her throughout her career,

1293
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 4: and she just didn't know where it was coming from.

1294
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 4: And we're talking to the we're having a conversation about it,

1295
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 4: and you know, everybody in the rooms like maybe it's

1296
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 4: in your head, maybe it's.

1297
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 1: Not that you know.

1298
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 4: But she's like, I don't necessarily want to have any issues,

1299
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 4: and maybe I'm in my head, so this is why

1300
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 4: just when we're around each.

1301
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 3: Other, I just don't speak.

1302
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 4: The rapper comes in the room, so now I'm seeing

1303
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 4: it firsthand. The rapper comes in the room and addresses

1304
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 4: everybody but her mm hm. And now she's irritated because

1305
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 4: she's had enough, so she says, come on, man, every time,

1306
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 4: and the rapper says every time?

1307
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 1: What every time?

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01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 3: You're gonna just act like you don't see me every time.

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01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 4: At this point, I'm thinking the rapper is gonna say,

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01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 4: you know, I'm so sorry understanding that.

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01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 3: Bars the rapper walks up, it says, because I don't

1312
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 3: see you. This singer ain't for the play play, so

1313
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 3: she just needed permission to really take it there the street.

1314
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 3: She said, well, fuck you looking like an uncooked sausage.

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01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 4: You just don't know how to not handle you just

1316
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 4: you just don't know how to handle not being the

1317
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 4: badest bitch when you walk into the room. At this point,

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01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm about to get jumped because I can't

1319
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:33,640
Speaker 4: hit with her.

1320
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 3: Jesus.

1321
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 4: It got so bad that I'm like, let's go outside

1322
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 4: because we're about to get joke, but then the rapper

1323
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 4: ends up coming out and just apologizing and saying it

1324
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 4: was a misunderstanding. But to me, if you guys knew

1325
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 4: the people in this room and this take up because

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01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 4: I'm at this party, I'm not. I've always had an

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01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:56,600
Speaker 4: old soul. So around ten pm, I'm ready to go

1328
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 4: to sleep. Even when I was like twenty one, I'm

1329
01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 4: ready to go to sleep. I can't really keep up

1330
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 4: with everybody. So this took place as I'm half asleep,

1331
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 4: so I'm waking up to World War three, Like, wait,

1332
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 4: what's happening? Why are you fighting with this nigga? So

1333
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 4: that might be the craziest thing I've ever witnessed.

1334
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:16,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I don't see you, I thought it.

1335
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 4: Was over then, But I should have never estimated the

1336
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,719
Speaker 4: person I was with, because she was gonna.

1337
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 3: Take it there.

1338
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 1: She was like with thennis On.

1339
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 3: Walk in the room was like, yikes, now this.

1340
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: Fight this whole thing, I don't care who fight. They

1341
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 1: didn't fight. It was able to get squashed.

1342
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 3: They apologized, but I was ready to do my special

1343
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 3: move because once I get you in the here, like.

1344
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:48,600
Speaker 1: We gotta go.

1345
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 4: And I'm a fan of the raffer. It's very well

1346
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 4: understood of Florida. Once Red gets you in the here like,

1347
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 4: you're not coming out of it. So I was gonna

1348
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 4: jump high off of something, bring him low and then

1349
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 4: let God handle the rest.

1350
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: But you, man, you're the headlock, specially if.

1351
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 3: You're not getting out of it. It's a monkey grip.

1352
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 1: Just prepare for the worst hold on it of all

1353
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 1: the bar fight moves to heaven. Your report, yours is

1354
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 1: the headlock.

1355
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 3: You never feel me.

1356
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 4: You hold on and you let the word themselves out

1357
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 4: trying to get out of it. I just I just

1358
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 4: want to say, and you throw a windmill in there

1359
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:47,480
Speaker 4: every now and then. That's a horrible.

1360
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 3: Impial slide. We slipping and sliding like a tree.

1361
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 1: Daddy treated record, especially while you're going like were you

1362
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 1: going right here with the with the basic one?

1363
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm putting to sleep.

1364
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: You are getting this full d d T.

1365
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 3: Somebody did slam me on my head.

1366
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:13,520
Speaker 1: You're getting this. You're getting this over the shoulders, suplex.

1367
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,560
Speaker 1: It's going to hurt you more than it's going to

1368
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 1: hurt me.

1369
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 4: And the nigga was your side. He slammed me on

1370
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 4: my head. That's my person never gets outs how it happened,

1371
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 4: but I gotta put him in head like a glass.

1372
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 1: We're glass. You became a singer, and he helped calm

1373
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 1: your spirit. I can see it now.

1374
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 3: This second time I was, I knew his move on

1375
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 3: the w w. Oh no, he's going to the headlock.

1376
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 1: Oh no, oh my god.

1377
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 3: The second time I was putting a sleep.

1378
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 1: You gotta call it a name that the headlock has

1379
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 1: to have a name. At this point, I'm gonna call

1380
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 1: it the monkey grip. I don't think that's not the one. Wait,

1381
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 1: what's monkey grip? Also, let's not do it. Let's just

1382
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 1: I was getting ready to do my special to just

1383
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 1: promote the pillow man. Don't try to choke out rappers.

1384
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 3: I didn't want to because I was actually a fan

1385
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 3: of this rapper.

1386
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 1: I just I'm just imagining you going to the top rope,

1387
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: trying to jump off of something to get to the headlines.

1388
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 3: It was a piano by me, so I was gonna

1389
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 3: get on the piano.

1390
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: You calculated getting on the piano, and I'm like, we're about.

1391
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 3: To get jumped.

1392
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 1: It was that intense. I can laugh about it, but

1393
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,640
Speaker 1: it was so there's no way to get to the

1394
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:27,719
Speaker 1: headlock from the ground.

1395
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 3: I didn't have enough room to run and didn't do it.

1396
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 3: I wouldn't need it momentum.

1397
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 1: This is Greg. We have to put him in a

1398
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 1: position somewhere. I wanted to see that. I got to

1399
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 1: see him do it. You have to video you like

1400
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 1: it's leth Bro. Let me just tell you something, Bro again,

1401
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 1: like I said before, you are you are the quality

1402
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:03,719
Speaker 1: than that. That of course our genre. But music music

1403
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:07,600
Speaker 1: needs man and and and thank you for you know,

1404
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 1: for continuing for pushing through. You know what I'm saying.

1405
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 1: We all have highs and off hals lows, and sometimes

1406
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 1: we don't know how necessary we are until we get

1407
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 1: on the other side of that, you know what I mean.

1408
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: And you show up on the Army Money podcast and

1409
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 1: I let you know how important Climax was to me

1410
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 1: as a singer, songwriter, producer, as an existence in this

1411
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:38,480
Speaker 1: whole thing. You know what I'm saying, Like, never discount

1412
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: that as you as you continue to go through this journey,

1413
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 1: as you continue to get better man and get bigger,

1414
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 1: someone is connected to you that needs what you.

1415
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 4: Do, Bro, that means the most. I just thank y'all

1416
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 4: for extending yall platform. The fact that there is an

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01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 4: R and B platform. We don't have many, and I

1418
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 4: think that this should inspire people to do more, especially

1419
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 4: since you guys have been in the trenches.

1420
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 3: Like when I hear you talk about it, yeah, it

1421
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 3: gives me chills.

1422
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:11,560
Speaker 4: When I hear you talk about it, it gives me

1423
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 4: chills because the underdogs, like basically we're the template for

1424
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 4: songwriting production, vocal production. A lot of it was just

1425
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 4: me finding when records used to leave, just wanting to

1426
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 4: learn more and study as much as I can so

1427
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 4: to be here. And again I didn't get to meet

1428
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 4: a lot of my heroes. So meeting my heroes in

1429
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 4: a way and then watching people like you guys, or

1430
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 4: even Stevie say I hear you, it's makes I have

1431
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 4: no choice but to be better and to acknowledge certain things.

1432
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 1: And they continue. Yeah, bro, we appreciate you.

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01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 3: Man.

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01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 1: Thank y'all. Man, man, we appreciate you pulling up. We

1435
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 1: told you we're gonna we're gonna do it. Problem. Yeah,

1436
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:53,639
Speaker 1: we're gonna do a real episode. Yeah time, Yeah, need time.

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01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:57,760
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01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:02,240
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Speaker 1: here Elijah, thank.

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Speaker 3: Y'all for having me. Man. I can't wait to show

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01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,120
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