1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: Despite some of that economic uncertainty, Spencer was talking about 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: disappointment over the size of discounts. US shoppers did open 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: their wallets on Black Friday, So what does that mean 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 2: for the month ahead. Harley Fingalstein, president of global commerce 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: company Shopify, is here with some good data, some good insights. 7 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: I mean where we ended it. There was Spencer, Harley, 8 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: the forecasters, the predictors say that this will be another 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: record shopping season in aggregate the data available to you. 10 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 2: What are you seeing? What are the trends? 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I heard what Spencer said there. I mean, look, 12 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 3: Friday was another record breaking Black Friday weekend. We saw 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 3: about six point two billion dollars in sales for Black Friday. 14 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 3: That's about twenty five percent from last year. We saw 15 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 3: peak sales of five point one million dollars per minuted 16 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: on Friday that happened around noon on Friday. That's up 17 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 3: from four point six million last year as well. And 18 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 3: if you pull up actually anyone can see this BFCM 19 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: dot shop, you can actually see global commerce happening right 20 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 3: now in real time. We are currently seeing about two 21 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: point five million dollars per sales in sales per minute, 22 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: about twenty five thousand orders per minute, and we've seen 23 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 3: just shy of seventy million unique shoppers buy from Shopify stores. 24 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: So it's certainly shipping up to be another great day. 25 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 3: And happy to go into some of the merchants and 26 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: some of the trends that we're seeing cross Shopify. 27 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: Harley, what I'd like to do is actually take a 28 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: sort of geographic breakdown because in the limited data that 29 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: we went through a spencer, I think we're recognizing different 30 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: speeds of great sharpicula. 31 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: US versus Europe. Could we start there? Yeah? Sure. 32 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: I mean, look, if you look at top selling countries 33 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 3: across the world where Shopify sells, we have millions of 34 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: stores in places like the US, we power twelve percent 35 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: of all e commerce, so we have a really great 36 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: view of things. US, UK, Australia, Germany and Canada are 37 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: the top five. Look a top three selling cities you 38 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: see La New York and London in US alone, La 39 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: New York and San Francisco were the top three. The 40 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: other thing that we also saw is cross border, but 41 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 3: seventeen percent of orders were cross border orders, so shipped 42 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 3: to a different country as well. And then in terms 43 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 3: of top trending merchants that we saw, we saw Hatch 44 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: which is sort of this it's been called the Restore three, 45 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: which is this phone free alarm for kind of morning routines. 46 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 3: Crunch Labs has the sort of kids build it yourself 47 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: monthly toy subscription, brook linnen on their super Plush robe, 48 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 3: and then Bass has their weekend or travel bag as well. 49 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: So we're seeing across a bunch of different verticals do 50 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 3: really well. 51 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: But a big thing. 52 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: Actually that we're seeing now is last year seemed to 53 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 3: be a lot to talk about getting outside gifts, were 54 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 3: about the products being sold, were about you know, things 55 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 3: like skiing or hiking. 56 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: We're camping. This year seems to be that home is 57 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: really you. 58 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 3: Know, the winner here where people are buying things for 59 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: their home, whether it's kitchens except for the kitchen, or 60 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: puzzles or blankets, but generally consumers are buying from brands 61 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 3: they love, and we're fortunate those brands are on Shopify. 62 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: What does that cross border stat that's seventeen percent signal 63 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 1: to you? Is that growing? I mean, how does that 64 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: stand up to last year when perhaps Taris went such 65 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: a headwind. 66 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's what I think it means is 67 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 3: that consumers generally are somewhat geographically agnostic. They want to 68 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: buy from their favorite brands. You know, we heard from 69 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 3: Jim Shark they had their biggest Black Friday sale ever 70 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 3: online ag one Athletic Greens was a fifty percent brunt 71 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 3: Workware got an order every five seconds. So if you 72 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 3: think about where consumers are purchasing, they're buying from brands 73 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: they love the Voris, the figs, the Alo Yogas, the 74 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 3: on Runnings of the World, and I think they're agnostic 75 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: to where those are coming from. 76 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: The other thing that we're. 77 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 3: Seeing, which is really interesting, is that this really wasn't 78 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 3: just about discount this year. 79 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: People shop brands, not channels. 80 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 3: We're almost worrying living in sort of a post world 81 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 3: channel where you know, the consumers bounce from a TikTok 82 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: video to an AI agent, to a website to a store. 83 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: Even in video games like Roadblocks where Shoppi by powers commerce. 84 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: The brands that really won the weekend made the experience 85 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: feel the same everywhere they were, and that continues today. 86 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: Let's talk holly about the inevitable AI question. 87 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: Because you are like the global commerce company. You're helping 88 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: people be digitally native. How are they interacting therefore, in 89 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: this world of brands with various AI agents, whether their 90 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: own or whether they're external third party. 91 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, it's still very very early, but 92 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 3: since January we've actually seen AI driven traffic on to 93 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 3: Shopify stores up about six x. 94 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: But we've been preparing for this for years. 95 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: We've been laying the rails for AGENTI where alread we've 96 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 3: already anounced deals with Perplexity and more recently with chat GBT, 97 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: where brands on Shopify can sell directly in those conversations, 98 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 3: no links, no redirects, just sort of this very seamless 99 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 3: experience directly in the chat. And so I think we're 100 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 3: going to see a lot more of that. Now what 101 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 3: permutation eventually wins, we're not sure yet, but we'll be 102 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 3: ready for it. But the other side of it is 103 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: really interesting, which is that brands, the merchants themselves, are 104 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: using AI to support them on the biggest shopping season 105 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 3: we can of the year. So we have something called Sidekick, 106 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 3: which is the AI assistant built into Shopify, which knows 107 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 3: everything about merchant stores, knows everything about Shopify, and we've 108 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 3: seen over one hundred million conversations with Sidekick. So merchants 109 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: are able to do things like you know, design copyright 110 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 3: market create these incredible analytics dashboards where they can decide 111 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 3: where to spend in a much more sophisticated way. And 112 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 3: so it's giving smaller merchants a real leg up against 113 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 3: the bigger guys because this AI empowers them. 114 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 2: I want to go back to tariffs, Holly, but with 115 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: a slightly different way of asking the question. You can 116 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 2: look at overall spend, but the question we're asking ourselves 117 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: in the bloom Bag newsroom is our consumer is still 118 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 2: spending and getting less in return. So what are the 119 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: data sets that you're tracking the evidence that impact of 120 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: tariffs either through a diminished spend or same level of spend, 121 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: but you just get less for it. 122 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 3: We actually measure, you know, both consumer confidence but also 123 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 3: consumer's appetite to spend at checkout and so far, I 124 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 3: mean as we speak right now, ed two point five 125 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 3: million dollars are going through check with every single minute. 126 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 3: So we've operated through all types of macro environments and 127 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 3: our focus is always the same, which is for merchants 128 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 3: and I think what we're seeing though, is that, you know, 129 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: whether during the pandemic, for example, we introduce tools like 130 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 3: you know, contact list delivery back in twenty twenty. Well, 131 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: now we're creating tools to help merchants navigate cross border 132 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: tariffs and navigate sort of some global uncertainty to make 133 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 3: sure they have everything they need. 134 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: So we're not complacent about this. 135 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 3: We're tracking macro conditions, but so far Shopify merchants consistently 136 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 3: outperform the overall market, and we're seeing that that they're 137 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 3: they're you know, they have a lot of buyers. 138 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 2: Right now, and I think we'll see great to have 139 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: some time with the president of Shopify. What a weekend 140 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 2: it's been for you, I'm sure