1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: How you doing that, Mike, I don't actually really good. 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: That was a beautiful day out there was that one. 3 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: It wasn't nice today. It was You can't complain this 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: time of the year. If it's good, what you gotta take. 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: It won't last forever, right, So let's just listen to 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: your podcast before you came in here. You're pretty hard 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: on yourself for the performance, Like how are you sort 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: of I don't know how are you because you've done before, 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: but like, how do you sort of take that? I 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: guess and roll into this week and correct that. I 11 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: guess what you were talking about. Yeah, it was just 12 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: a bad performance. And I think, um, as a leader, 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: you go out there like it. It starts with your performance, 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 1: you know, And I think, Um, I wouldn't say it's 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: hard to move on, Like I'm twelve year vet, Like 16 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: I understand what it takes, good bad, how to move 17 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: on to the next week. So it's just going and 18 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: doing it, you know. I think every guy in the 19 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: locker room knows, you know, preparation and being ready to go. 20 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: So it's just going to executing. It's it's making sure 21 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't look like last week. And um, you know, 22 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: even talking to Brian, like you set a standard as 23 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: a player, like you gotta you gotta bring that every 24 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: week and when you don't, um, it creates a sense 25 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: of urgency, like you want to get back out there 26 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: and not put that performance, you know, back out there 27 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: and put it behind you. So um, that's what you 28 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: gotta do. It was just asking Jakobe about the game 29 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: here against Dallas two years ago. Brain Cole, what do 30 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: you remember about that? You guys have to play really 31 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: long defensive Yeah, I mean just I would say a 32 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: competitive games. It's different like when you play teams like Dallas, 33 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: teams that you don't play a lot, so a lot 34 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: goes in. I would say to the week of like preparation, um, 35 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: because you're watching film. But it's a team that you 36 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: don't know. Well, it's skill guys that you don't know well. 37 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: Skill guys obviously you know, but like we don't study them. 38 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: You know often it's every four years. And I would 39 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: say in this the league, when you play a team 40 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: count every four years, the team you probably last played 41 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: doesn't look much like the team you're now playing. And 42 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: I would say even this team, you know, with Mark 43 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: McCarthy there, it doesn't all look the same even though 44 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: we played them two years ago. And in addition to 45 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: cde lamb Um and Schultz like two guys that are 46 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: you know, two of their better weapons on offense. Um, 47 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: it's a little different. So you know, I would say 48 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: that game was was super competitive back and forth, one 49 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: of those kind of ugly games that I would say 50 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: didn't really look like the games they played. You know, 51 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: in a dome at home, it kind of changes. You 52 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: come here as Cole Wendy Rainey. So I think you 53 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: have to be prepared, I would say, especially when we 54 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 1: play at home, for how games can easily change due 55 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: to weather. Um. So I don't know. I don't think 56 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: the forecast is projecting what we got last year. So 57 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: but it's one of those teams that I think you 58 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: really have to dig in during the week because you 59 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: just you don't know a lot. And you know, I 60 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: think as a as a defense, and I think overall 61 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: as a team. That's what we're trying to do right 62 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: now is just locking on what they do from a 63 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: personnel standpoint and from a scheme standpoint to trying to 64 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: be ready to go by Sunday. How dangerous are they 65 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: when things kind of hit these guys wherever they are. Yeah, 66 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: they're just I mean, I think anytime you put their 67 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: skill players with a quarterback like Dak and his ability 68 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: to keep plays alive, arm strength, armed talent um. The 69 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: more you watch them on offense, it's tough. Like they 70 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: have a lot of offense um. They've been able to 71 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: run the ball at a high level, they've been able 72 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: to throw the ball at a high level. So when 73 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: you talk scrambled players, you basically talk about like a 74 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: backyard play, and when you you have so many different weapons, 75 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: that's what makes it really hard. You know, whether it's 76 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: like the Carolina game where you know, Dak's two seconds 77 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: from getting sacked for minus eight yards and he flips 78 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: it to Zeke. You know, they end up getting them 79 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: for two yard game, but like that flip, that play 80 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: can turn into anything because now you have one of 81 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: the best better players in the NFL with the ball 82 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: in his hands, his guy kind of leaves him because 83 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: it's about to be a sack. So those are the 84 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: kind of broken plays that I think, whether it's Zeke, 85 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: whether it's CD, whether it's cool like all of those guys, 86 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: they get the ball in their hands, Pollard Um in 87 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: the open field, it's a tough matchup. We gotta get 88 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: to the ball in gang tackle. How would you describe 89 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: style because he obviously can't scramble, but it looks like 90 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: you get in the ball in te him quickly too, 91 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: So how would you sort of classify how you play that. Yeah, 92 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: he's a mobile guy, but to me, like you watch 93 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: him like he's a he's a drop back passer. He's 94 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: gonna throw the ball all around the field if you 95 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: let them, like if you don't get any pressure, um, 96 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: and you're not mixing coverages and he can come out 97 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: and see what you're in, it's gonna be a long day. 98 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: Like he'll he'll pick you apart up and down the field. 99 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: And I think the added bonus for him is his 100 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: ability to stay alive. He's not just athletic, he's he's 101 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: a strong guy. Like you just watch him like I 102 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: said that Carolina play like he should be sacked, but 103 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: it's kind of like he's slowly going down and he's 104 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: able to flip the ball. So UM, I would say, 105 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: just an athletic, bigger, stronger guy Um that can do 106 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: anything he wants by just sitting in the pocket as 107 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: well of reading coverages and getting the ball. He's thrown 108 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: the nine route. He threw the CD lamb where he 109 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: kind of looks off the safety and you know, we 110 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: kind of call it like throwing blind where you're looking 111 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: off and you just throw it to a spot. I mean, 112 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: it was a perfect pass against a giant. So really 113 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: has the ability to do a lot of different things 114 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: on the field. What do you see? You can tell 115 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: he's a very like he's like a security guy for him. 116 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: Obviously he gets a he gets a lot of targets UM, 117 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: but I think his ability to just get open why 118 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: call security guy and not that everything's like a two 119 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: yard route, but I think his ability to be savvy 120 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: UM and how he runs route is how he reads 121 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: the defense, how he gets in holes in Zoe, how 122 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: he sets guys up in man and man um, whether 123 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: it's like a shaker out in the red area, UM, 124 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: he does a really good job. I think of just 125 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: being in a spot that Dak knows Um at any 126 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: moment he can get the ball to him. And I 127 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,559 Speaker 1: think one of impressive things is how many talented people 128 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: they have on their team. He shows up a lot 129 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: and targets and catches um receive Like in receiving statistics, 130 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: shout shows up. So it just shows you you know, 131 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: he's not a guy I think the media probably talks 132 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: about a lot, but within their offense, when you start 133 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: watching the film, you're breaking down the stats and stuff. 134 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: He's a huge part of their offense. Uh, making plays 135 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: and targeting the red area. So uh, as we watched, 136 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: he's a really good player. I would say, not a 137 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: huge name around the league. What you turn on the film, Um, 138 00:06:50,400 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: he's getting a job done at a high level. Devillard fast, 139 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: I would say when he gets into the secondary, whether 140 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: it's you know, a bubble pass, a quick pass of 141 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: the flat, or he's running the ball and he breaks, 142 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: he just looks like he's gaining on guys in a 143 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: hurry that you got to do a good job of. 144 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: I would say getting around him, game, tackling him and 145 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: trying to get him down. The combination between him and 146 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: Zeke is tough, you know what I mean. I think 147 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: Bill said today they're both two top ten rushers right 148 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: now on the same team. So there's no you know, 149 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: like there's some teams you play when you know that 150 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: start running back like Ezekiel Elliott is out, You're like, 151 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: all right, it's a break not with Pollard in there. 152 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: And he's a guy that we saw back in nineteen 153 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: two who I would say was you know in nineteen 154 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: more of like a change of pace with being there 155 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: here and there where. I would say, Now, he's a 156 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: big part of their offense, one of their their better 157 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: weapons when he's out there, And I say, he has 158 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,239 Speaker 1: the ability to do a lot of different things, whether 159 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: they go with him and Zeke in the game, put 160 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: him in a mistle motion, split him out, why, Like, 161 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: he can do a lot of different things, both him 162 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: and Zeke. Um that makes it tough on the defense 163 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: when they do go what we call out personnel with 164 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: both those backs in the game. All Right, appreciate it.