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Speaker 1: Delia, Hello, my friends, welcome back, Welcome to today's podcast

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Speaker 1: episode of Love Someone with Delilah. I am so delighted

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Speaker 1: to be able to have this extra bit of time

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Speaker 1: with you. I love taking calls, but I would like

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Speaker 1: to get a little deeper, to go a little deeper,

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Speaker 1: with specific people. And that is why we have our

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Speaker 1: podcast series Love Someone. The whole purpose, my whole prayer,

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Speaker 1: my whole reason for doing this podcast was that I

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk to people who are changing this world

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Speaker 1: for good. Some of those people are very famous. If

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Speaker 1: you heard some of my last few podcasts, I talked

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Speaker 1: to Michael Boublay, to Tear Tebow, to Josh Grobin. But

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Speaker 1: some people, some of the podcast are just ordinary people

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Speaker 1: who did extraordinary things. And that, my friend, is what

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Speaker 1: you ever felt a whisper in your heart, a voice,

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Speaker 1: a feeling urging you to do something. Maybe you became

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Speaker 1: overwhelmed by all the what ifs, the avalanche of details

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Speaker 1: your brain tumbled at you. Today, I have the privilege

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Speaker 1: of talking with two incredibly brave, incredibly beautiful, loving women,

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Speaker 1: Barbara Marlowe and Tiba Farratt Marlowe. They are the authors

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Speaker 1: of the book A Brave Face, which was released on

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Speaker 1: March twelfth. Their story, as you're about to hear, is

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Speaker 1: a fabulous testimony to my assertion that changing the world

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Speaker 1: is a job best done one heart at a time.

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Speaker 1: This story, Barbara's and Tiva's story, all started with a

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Speaker 1: grainy photograph in a newspaper and a whisper in Barbara's heart.

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Speaker 1: Tell me the name of the book and Barbara, what

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Speaker 1: was birthed in you to write the book.

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Speaker 2: Well, the name of the book is called A Brave Face,

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Speaker 2: and it is being published by HarperCollins.

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Speaker 1: Love the title Love the picture on the front, Tiba,

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Speaker 1: thank you.

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Speaker 2: And the impetus for the book actually started many, many

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Speaker 2: years ago. When Tiva first got here. There was an

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Speaker 2: article in People magazine in their Heroes among Us section,

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Speaker 2: and at the time, the editor said, you know, this

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Speaker 2: would make a great book. And so she put together

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Speaker 2: a book proposal, and she submitted it to an agent

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Speaker 2: in New York who also said, hey, this is a

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Speaker 2: great book, but she's only been here one year. What's

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Speaker 2: the rest of the story. There was no middle, and

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Speaker 2: get people saying, Oh, this needs to be a book,

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Speaker 2: a book. And this went on and on and on,

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Speaker 2: and I didn't think much about it until one day

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Speaker 2: So I contacted the original agent and he said that

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Speaker 2: he would still be interested in the story. And I

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Speaker 2: had also contacted a local friend, Jennifer Kern, who is

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Speaker 2: Tiva and I many years ago, and spoke to her

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Speaker 2: she and I we did it, submitted it, and the

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Speaker 1: Know, here we are, here you are So Barbara, I

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Speaker 2: Actually it was a newspaper article. My husband was going

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Speaker 2: My husband has three grown children, so they were off

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Speaker 1: Okay, So July sixteenth, two thousand and six, you see

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Speaker 1: a little picture. How big was this photograph?

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Speaker 2: And at that moment, it was just one of those

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Speaker 1: So you see the picture, little girl burned over, you know,

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Speaker 2: Right Well, I will say one thing. Though her body

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Speaker 1: Girlfriend, you are bold. I love your faith, I love

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was very bold. I was bold, and I

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Speaker 2: And there were little signs of things that came along

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Speaker 2: Look at this little face, right, And so then I

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Speaker 2: And I'm just ranting like a crazy person. And then

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Speaker 2: And at that moment I knew, I mean, you just know,

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, So did you keep that little that

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Speaker 2: And oh yeah, it's a prized possession. But the odd

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Speaker 2: exactly one year to the day that I read about her.

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Speaker 1: Love that love that love that So this little girl

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Speaker 2: It's University Hospitals, Rainbow Babies and Children's Hospital.

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Speaker 1: So, Tiba, do you remember those first days when you

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Speaker 1: first came to the US for Iraq.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do remember it. I remember kind of looking

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Speaker 3: my dad's mother, came with me. She accompanied me on

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Speaker 3: and we had spent a few like six months in

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Speaker 1: Hardest thing to give up, Barbara, when you became a

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Speaker 1: would be the face that encourages so many other young people.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: I was actually looking in the mirror and saying, twenty

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Speaker 3: as I've gotten older, I realized that's just not something

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Speaker 3: like you said, I can provide that solace and that

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Speaker 3: So if I have to be burdened, I guess with

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Speaker 3: So it's okay if twenty years from now they're not disappearing.

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Speaker 1: How many surgeries have you faced, Eva?

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Speaker 3: Nineteen surgeries?

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Speaker 2: Wow, she's so different now than when she had that

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Speaker 2: first accident with some of these scars. You know, I've

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Speaker 2: always told her nobody's perfect. I mean, so many of us.

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Speaker 2: As we get older, you have more ugly, hairy, dark spots,

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Speaker 2: splotchy wrinkles, whatever that comes out, and nobody's perfect. And

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Speaker 2: that her scars speak volumes as to me, to her

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Speaker 2: character and the type of person that she is, and

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Speaker 1: So the book is called A Brave Face, and Tiba,

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Speaker 1: your beautiful face is on the cover, and I had

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Speaker 1: the fact that you were once terribly disfigured. Because the

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Speaker 1: face that I see is so beautiful and the same

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Speaker 1: eyes that captured your mama's heart, Barbara's heart. Man, those

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Speaker 1: eyes are gorgeous, girlfriend. Thank you, They go all the

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Speaker 1: way to your soul.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: All right, So if somebody wants to get involved, plug

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Speaker 1: into the Iraqi Children's Foundation, how do they do that?

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Speaker 2: The best thing is the five k is this summer

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Speaker 2: and they could be part of Team Tiba. And if

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Speaker 2: google the Iraqi Children's Foundation, it'll come up. And if

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Speaker 1: And if they can't get to where that five K is,

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Speaker 1: how could they organize one in their school?

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Speaker 2: They could, They could organize anything and all that money

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Speaker 2: could go towards Team Tiba, or they can just make

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Speaker 2: a donation and we would list them as a participant

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Speaker 2: as part of Tiba's Team Tiba.

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Speaker 1: What do you hope that you are able to do

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Speaker 1: for other young people?

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Speaker 3: I hope I am able to provide that encouragement and

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Speaker 3: be that voice that's saying, hey, you can do this.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to listen to that other voice saying

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Speaker 3: you can't, because there's nothing stopping you. And my mom

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Speaker 3: has deff shown that. And I also hope, especially for

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Speaker 3: young girls, that when they look into the mirror, they're

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Speaker 3: not saying twenty years from now, I want my flaws

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Speaker 3: to disappear. I hope I can make these girls realize

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Speaker 3: nothing needs to change and that they're beautiful regardless. And

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Speaker 3: although that's something I'm still learning, I'm very grateful for

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Speaker 3: the experiences that have led me to being able to

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Speaker 3: cope with that and say, hey, it's.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, thank you for spending this time with me.

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Speaker 1: You are both lovely.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Pray that many people pick up a brave face, and

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Speaker 1: I pray that God just continues to open doors and

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Speaker 1: use you both to impact the world for good.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's our goal, that's our mission. Thank you, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Barbara Marlowe had no special skills, no knowledge about Iraq,

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Speaker 1: about IED's. She had never parented children. She wasn't a mom.

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Speaker 1: She didn't have any medical knowledge. She didn't know how

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Speaker 1: to raise children, especially children who were disabled or wounded.

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Speaker 1: But she fell into the eyes of a wounded little

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Speaker 1: Iraqi girl photographed setting in her father's lap. The fact

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Speaker 1: that she didn't have any skills, any knowledge, any information,

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Speaker 1: any political clout did not stop her from deciding that

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Speaker 1: she was going to try to do something to help Tiba.

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Speaker 1: That July day, she read about her in the newspaper

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Speaker 1: she did help her, and in doing so, discovered so

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Speaker 1: much about herself, such as her own tenacity when faced

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Speaker 1: with insurmountable obstacles, her ability to navigate complicated situations, and

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Speaker 1: her capacity for loving. I'm so very inspired by their

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Speaker 1: story told in their book A Brak Face, released by

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Speaker 1: HarperCollins on March twelfth. I know you will be too.

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Speaker 1: Please pick up a copy today. I'm grateful that they

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Speaker 1: shared their story and their time with us. Grateful too

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Speaker 1: for my sponsor, the Home Depot, who made all of

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Speaker 1: this possible. I hope today's episode of Love Someone inspired you,

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Speaker 1: encouraged you to follow the whisper in your heart. Tell

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Speaker 1: your friends about my podcast series Love Someone with Delilah

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Speaker 1: and subscribe on your favorite podcast platform, and I will

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Speaker 1: talk to you again real soon.

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Speaker 3: Be Loo